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Ep. 293: Goals, Hopes, and Hitlists for 2019 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number two
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  Speaker 1: and today of the show. I'm joined by Dan nine
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  Speaker 1: Fingers Johnson and Josh further Hilliard to set the stage
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  Speaker 1: for the upcoming season day secting our goals, hopes and
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  Speaker 1: hit lists for two thousand. All right, welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Wired Hunt Podcast, brought to you by on X, and
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  Speaker 1: we've got a good show for you today because already
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  Speaker 1: myself and my two partners and Hime I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could call him, we've already been laughing. We've already been
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  Speaker 1: making inappropriate sexual jokes. We've already we've already had a
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  Speaker 1: really good start to the conversation before we started recording,
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  Speaker 1: so it should just go swimmingly from here. We got
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  Speaker 1: Dan Johnson and further Hilliard and uh, Dan, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell you something O. Me and Josh further Hilliard. We're
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  Speaker 1: going up north to my family deer camp earlier this summer,
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  Speaker 1: and it was me, him and my dad. We're in
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  Speaker 1: the truck at the gas station, and we'd like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Josh had to take a big dump or something.
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  Speaker 1: So he was in the bathroom for a long time exactly.
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  Speaker 1: He finally came out and as he's walking to the
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  Speaker 1: truck from the other side of the parking lot, someone
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden yells further, Oh, now he's got
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  Speaker 1: some clue. Don't care about Mark, It was it was
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  Speaker 1: pretty great. That's awesome, Mark, You're lucky you got to
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  Speaker 1: hang out with me that Then yes, I was, dude,
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  Speaker 1: can I get your picture? So, so the three of
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  Speaker 1: us are here today because we need to do our
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  Speaker 1: annual Goals, Hopes and hit Lists podcast in which we
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  Speaker 1: kind of like to just set the stage for the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming hunting season. Um, I think we've done this every
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  Speaker 1: single year of the podcast, Dan right. So basically the
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  Speaker 1: gist will be we'll kind of run through each one
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  Speaker 1: of us and talk about, like, what's the final schedule
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  Speaker 1: for the year, where we're going, what are we doing,
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  Speaker 1: what are some of our kind of tangible goals, Maybe
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  Speaker 1: what are some of our pine this guy hopes, Um,
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  Speaker 1: if there's any specific bucks were after any specific I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, projects or things that we just want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we really do well this year. I want
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  Speaker 1: to kind of touch on all that. Um, I have
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  Speaker 1: a few ideas and notes of what I want to
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  Speaker 1: kind of cover through each of us. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's just see where this goes. If all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden we decided want to talk about I don't know
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  Speaker 1: further's bathroom schedule, we can do that if need be. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of which, my goal is to completely derail this episode.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, yet I know we can. We can
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  Speaker 1: be done with the bathroom schedule stuff. I know where
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  Speaker 1: this has gone, so we should just and he works.
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  Speaker 1: He works for the q d M A mark. We
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  Speaker 1: can't like Burt smirch. Smirch if that's even a word. Professional. Man,
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  Speaker 1: he's a professional. Now, you're right, he's a professional. And
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  Speaker 1: when a professional visits another professional for an appointment, you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about it publicly, right exactly. It's like hip
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  Speaker 1: hop stuff, hi stuff. So we'll keep Josh's hippo related
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  Speaker 1: news just to the three of us. But Dan, be
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  Speaker 1: be easy on him, be gentle to Josh today. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I like Josh. It's you that I'm gonna thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It's not it's nice to have some backup once in
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  Speaker 1: a while, I know, right, So that's give him too
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  Speaker 1: hard of a time. Yeah he really does, man, he
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  Speaker 1: really does. The Only reason why I give him a
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  Speaker 1: hard time because I know we can handle it and
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  Speaker 1: because I love him, right, you think he can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: In his mind, he's actually plotting to murder you if
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  Speaker 1: I got murdered. If I got murdered, do you think
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  Speaker 1: he'd be the number one suspect in most people's eyes,
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  Speaker 1: like when they get that news, like, oh, probably Further
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  Speaker 1: probably snapped. It's either it's either Further or the guy
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  Speaker 1: who thinks we swear too much on this pod gap
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  Speaker 1: or talk about kids too much. That's right, h So
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  Speaker 1: I can I can add into that convo now. I
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  Speaker 1: want to feel like I can add in on that
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  Speaker 1: that topic. Did you know that Dan has has a kid? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I can. I can give the classic Hey, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: if you hear a kid crying in the background, just
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  Speaker 1: just we'll just keep going. We can edit that out.
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  Speaker 1: He actually was crying when we first started, so hopefully
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  Speaker 1: you can't hear him. If you I'm gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: one piece advice right now, I don't have three. I
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  Speaker 1: laughed really hard Dan, when you wrote that, like I
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  Speaker 1: put up a little picture on Facebook or something just like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Wade is my son's day when Wade was born. Dan
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  Speaker 1: comes in from left fields like don't have three? Like, no, congrats,
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  Speaker 1: nothing like that. It's like, don't I laughed really hard
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  Speaker 1: at that. I think I had a good chuckle. I
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  Speaker 1: feel you should see our house, like it looks like
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  Speaker 1: an abandoned storage shed. I mean, there's just I mean
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  Speaker 1: it is just trashed, and me and my wife we
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  Speaker 1: try really hard to keep it clean. Oh no, man, no, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like they have an agenda. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's wake up and trash the house. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how you do it, because I already feel
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  Speaker 1: like that is the case with one kid, so three terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: But that kind of ties into one of the first
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  Speaker 1: things I did want to ask you about, Dan, not
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  Speaker 1: quite getting into our main topic. But um, when we
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  Speaker 1: were on the show last time together, maybe at the
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  Speaker 1: time before that, um, like over the course of the summer,
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  Speaker 1: we we first talked about this idea of trying to
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  Speaker 1: institute some new good habits. Next time we chatted, we said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna run. We're gonna trying to run three miles
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  Speaker 1: at least three times a week, and then we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep each other accountable on it. And since that point,
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  Speaker 1: you and may have been texting each other throughout the
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  Speaker 1: week with updates and how we're doing. And I just
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  Speaker 1: want to come out and commend you because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you've done a damn good job of it. Like
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  Speaker 1: we've been getting the little onex trackers going and sending
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  Speaker 1: each other screenshot of how far we ran each day
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  Speaker 1: and where we went, and uh, I've been pretty darn
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  Speaker 1: on point. So pat on the back. Yeah, And that's
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what. Um, It's kind of funny. There's
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  Speaker 1: nights where I'm sitting in my chair it's eight o'clock
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  Speaker 1: at night, or nine almost nine, the kids are finally
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  Speaker 1: in bed, and I could either take that moment to
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  Speaker 1: just relax in silence, but I can't let that bastard
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan beat me in anything, so I have I
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  Speaker 1: have to get up and go for a run just
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  Speaker 1: so I can send you a screenshot of what I did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's perfect, it's perfect. It really does help me too,
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  Speaker 1: because I know my crap. Dan sent me three three
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  Speaker 1: screen sets already. One day he went like five miles
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  Speaker 1: or something. If I get lazy, I can't be the
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  Speaker 1: pansy of the group. So it's been getting me going
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  Speaker 1: to so right along with you know, we we do
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  Speaker 1: our runs and then every once in a while we'll
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  Speaker 1: you know, here's the target here, I'm shooting my bow
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And now I haven't maintained to the three
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  Speaker 1: miles three times a week schedule because I'm adding in
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  Speaker 1: different exercises and workouts into that. But for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: I'm running at least two times a week six miles
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  Speaker 1: um and six miles a week and then adding in
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  Speaker 1: another exercise in on that. And damn just got me
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  Speaker 1: Jack for the mountains. Yeah, I think that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome, just having that, just something to get your
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  Speaker 1: day going in a positive direction, working towards the fall.
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  Speaker 1: At least for me, I like doing that. Now. It's
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  Speaker 1: there's that little moment when it's either late at night
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  Speaker 1: or for me it's early in the morning, when I
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  Speaker 1: could make that choice, like you, just like you said,
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  Speaker 1: like I just want to relax for a moment, and
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  Speaker 1: in that second, I don't want to go run or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But always after I did it, I'm always very glad
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like just from there on out it's better.
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  Speaker 1: So like today, I didn't want to get up, but
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  Speaker 1: I knew I gotta get out, hammer my three miles
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  Speaker 1: out and then shoot my bow. And it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like I made progress. And that's a good feeling. So
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  Speaker 1: it's in fact, kudos. I gotta get on this train
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  Speaker 1: with you guys. I need some I need some accountability
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  Speaker 1: partners on that kind of stuff. Do you want to do?
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  Speaker 1: You want in on the group text? Oh yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: got a group text going for that. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: a two it's a two persons, let's make it a
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  Speaker 1: three person I need some accountability on on some fitness stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta get myself back in shape. This ain't a
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  Speaker 1: joke further, Okay, I'm not. I'm dead serious, man. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this, you gotta do it around.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in. I just I think this is
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  Speaker 1: quite common. But man, I put on some pounds during
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  Speaker 1: the pregnancy. You should see him. You should see him Dan.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a bunch of different circles, is the big
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  Speaker 1: old boat man. So I've been I've been meeting a
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  Speaker 1: couple of guys and and doing some like waited pack
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  Speaker 1: hikes over the last couple of weeks a couple of
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  Speaker 1: times a week, and that's been good. But I just
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  Speaker 1: need to get some more cardio and try to cut
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  Speaker 1: some of this weight by by the fall the old
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  Speaker 1: sympathy weight. Luckily, I had my sympathy weight on before
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  Speaker 1: my wife got pregnant, so I really didn't need to
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  Speaker 1: add any anymore. Just keep that consistently hanging on. Right right,
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  Speaker 1: here's been. Here's been the worst part. People are coming
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  Speaker 1: to visit and like we're getting like cakes and cookies
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  Speaker 1: and like all this stuff, like oh gosh, it's never
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  Speaker 1: gonna end. And I just have no willpower for that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I need I need some some
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  Speaker 1: accountability partners on that. So add me to the group
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  Speaker 1: text that stuff about three miles three times a week
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  Speaker 1: that I gotta shoot your bow. All that stuff perfect,
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  Speaker 1: all right, We're not going to take it easy on you.
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  Speaker 1: That we'll probably come at you hard if you if
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  Speaker 1: you misbeat need that I need that with this kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. I need to be picked on and made
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  Speaker 1: fun of for this kind of stuff. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'll fit right in. So there's this there's this Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know what Jeff is or gift I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to say it, gift or Jeff. It's like
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  Speaker 1: an animated image. And if you ever bail on one
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  Speaker 1: of the times we're supposed to go running, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna always send. There's one like if you're if you're
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  Speaker 1: using an iPhone a frequent gift for some reason that
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  Speaker 1: shows up in like the options. If you just start
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  Speaker 1: to search, there's this picture of like a guy with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of hot dogs being thrown on his face.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna send that to you repeatedly. Needin shows
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  Speaker 1: it shows up in your suggestions because you probably use
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  Speaker 1: that that might be So, how is your weekend? And
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  Speaker 1: then he sends that gift you. So we gotta stay
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  Speaker 1: staying on track here we've gone off the road. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Other than other than the physical fitness type stuff, which
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  Speaker 1: is important for us with a lot of the trips
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  Speaker 1: were coming up. How does everybody feel with their summer
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  Speaker 1: preparations so far? Because we're almost in mid August, we're
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  Speaker 1: almost down to the last like two two and a
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  Speaker 1: half weeks the summer um Dan, how are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: about your prep other than the physical stuff coming with
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  Speaker 1: your with your hunts, your el khant, your mulder hunt,
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  Speaker 1: your white tail stuff. Are you where you need to
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  Speaker 1: be here? Close to it? Yeah? I think I'm fairly close. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think the next big thing for me is putting
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  Speaker 1: together the official gear list and getting everything organized. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I've I've done my work physically. Um, I've done a
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  Speaker 1: majority of my preparation. This some or has been done
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  Speaker 1: on the elk side and on the mucle there hunt side. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm going back to a farm that I've
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  Speaker 1: hunted now for nine years, eight or nine years now,
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  Speaker 1: so I know that farm. I know how it operates.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have I have two tree stands up there.
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  Speaker 1: I've checked my trail cameras once. I'll go back next
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  Speaker 1: weekend to check the trail cameras and possibly put up
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  Speaker 1: some more tree stands. But from the white tail side
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  Speaker 1: of things, it's just been I'm going back into old territory, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily I'm not gonna say I'm a
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent prepared, but I'm not under prepared just because
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  Speaker 1: of everything I already know about the farm. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: on a one to tense scale for your Western hunts.
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  Speaker 1: On a one tense scale, where would you say your
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  Speaker 1: level of preparedness of that honest assessment? Honest assessment. And
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  Speaker 1: I know I know where I'm going. This is the
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  Speaker 1: same place I went last year from Elk hunt, so
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  Speaker 1: we know the area roughly. We're going a week later,
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  Speaker 1: hoping to catch the beginning of the Elk rut. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel, other than having to purchase a couple items
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  Speaker 1: for gear, I have everything. Um, physically, I'm gonna ramp
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  Speaker 1: it up, like this week was actually ramp up week,
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  Speaker 1: where for the next month I'm going hard until it's
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  Speaker 1: time to leave. So I would say I'm probably at
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  Speaker 1: a seven right now as far as being prepared for
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  Speaker 1: the Western hunts. Um, the muleteer hunt that's coming in October.
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  Speaker 1: This is a public land, get out of your truck,
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  Speaker 1: go hunt. Like, we have no idea other than what
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  Speaker 1: information we've researched online or have been told by people
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  Speaker 1: who have shared information with us. It's just one of
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  Speaker 1: those things where it's going to be a shoot from
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  Speaker 1: the hip hunt. So what's your number of that one
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  Speaker 1: more of a five? Yeah, it's well, I don't don't
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  Speaker 1: even really want to give it a number because I'll
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  Speaker 1: be prepared for it, like right now, and probably out
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  Speaker 1: of seven with that one too, just for the fact
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  Speaker 1: that we're going into it blind. So I don't think
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  Speaker 1: there's a way to be prepared for a hunt like
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  Speaker 1: that for sure. And then on the white tail sign, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like I'll say I'm at a nine right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I usually and I think we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this in the past. Man, I put my tree stands up,
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  Speaker 1: I put them in the good spots, but I never
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  Speaker 1: use them. So I'm not really concerned this year that
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  Speaker 1: I have. I guess I don't have as many tree
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  Speaker 1: stands up as I do in the past, so it'll
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  Speaker 1: just be more running and gunning. And that's something that
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  Speaker 1: I'm completely comfortable with. So it's not like I I
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  Speaker 1: feel bad that I don't have my you know, some
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  Speaker 1: trail cameras out or I have you know some other things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my my tree stands out. I just know
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  Speaker 1: that I'll I'll fall right back into my routine early
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  Speaker 1: September after I get back from the elk hunt, or
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe before I go on my elk hunt.
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  Speaker 1: I'll switch my cameras off of my mineral stations to
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  Speaker 1: the traditional pinch points betting areas, uh, you know, fence
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  Speaker 1: crossing type areas where uh I get more rut deer movement.
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  Speaker 1: And then from there it's just falling in line and
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  Speaker 1: falling into that routine of of the season. Yeah, off
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  Speaker 1: and running. What about you for its one through ten
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  Speaker 1: scale on your summer preparations? How are you feeling coming
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  Speaker 1: into the two nineteen season? Oh? Man, like a three
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  Speaker 1: or four. I just like like have had almost zero
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  Speaker 1: time for that stuff. Um with the new baby. He's
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  Speaker 1: like six weeks old day, so it's just been it's
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  Speaker 1: been crazy the last couple of weeks, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: figuring out our new life and doing all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And um, so I feel very underprepared for like my
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  Speaker 1: personal um hunting. UM. I am planning a couple of
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  Speaker 1: like mentored hunts and stuff like that that I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: much better about. So hopefully we'll get some other people
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  Speaker 1: on some deer um. And I've been doing quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit of planning for a trip that we're doing um
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  Speaker 1: in October. I'm feeling pretty good about that. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of like my personal hunting here in Michigan, I
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  Speaker 1: feel very uh under prepared. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a race to October one year over the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks. Why are you underprepared? I
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  Speaker 1: just haven't. I just haven't given it the time that
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  Speaker 1: I need to give it. I mean, like, are you
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  Speaker 1: hunting enough hunted? Every year? I'm primarily hunting public land.
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  Speaker 1: I've got like a small piece that I have access to,
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  Speaker 1: um privately here that I that I hunted last year
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  Speaker 1: for the first time. UM. I figured a few things
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  Speaker 1: out on that one, but I need to get out
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  Speaker 1: there and and do a little bit more on it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get out there over the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks and prep a couple of trees for UM.
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  Speaker 1: I'm primarily running and gunning. I'm gonna switch over to
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  Speaker 1: saddle this year, so I need to get out there
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  Speaker 1: and prep a couple of trees for saddle. Yeah. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like Mark. I want to be
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  Speaker 1: just like Mark. So if you're trying to be cool,
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  Speaker 1: that's a bad plan. Yeah, I know, I know, but
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, man, I just like I need to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot more scouting than than what I've done, and um,
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  Speaker 1: I've I've severely lacked on that. Um. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I still have a little bit of time, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like totally freaking out yet, UM, but I need
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  Speaker 1: to get on it so that that that would be
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  Speaker 1: the number one reason why I just feel underprepared. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like and and I know you know I'm
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: going to say this and it's the same old so
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: don't mind me. But I think access is Josh's challenge.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So see, I think Josh a little bit doesn't like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: knocking on doors, right, that's probably something you're not too keen.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And so most of the spots he's hunting our public
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: land or spots where you know, like me and him
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: hunt together or him and another buddy are hunting together,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and that's great, but there's something to be said about
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: having a spot that's like just yours or you've got
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: all your own, and that you can be out there
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: whenever you need. Um. So I'm sure you know, I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: know it's hard to get that time right now, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: once you do get that time, and it's gonna happen,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for it one of these times where you're gonna knock
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: an a door somewhere you're gonna get that hundred acres
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that maybe it's just you or one other random person,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, you can get out there whenever you want,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and you can run your own cameras and you can
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: hang your own stands. I think that will be like
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a a good thing for you, would be a game
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: changer for me for sure. So, um, if anybody's listening
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: has a hundred acres, preferably a mile from your house, yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that's a big thing that There's been a couple of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: pieces like you know, done by Mark. You had some
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: leads and its gonna be I mean it's like an
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: hour and a half for me to get down there,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and just you know, this year, out of any I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: just think I need to be a little closer to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: home because I think I'm just gonna have to pop
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: out one to get a chance. Right, So it's just
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be a quick afternoon hunt or get get there
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: for a morning hunt and be back for the afternoon
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and help my wife out with some stuff. And so
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a little bit different year with
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where I'm not gonna be able
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to I don't know how many all days since I'm
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be doing you know what I mean, Um, it
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: would be nice to have something close to home or
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I can just pop out and and sit for the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: morning or get out there for the afternoon hunt and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: um still be able to fulfill my obligations here at home.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So so that in mind, then walk me through real
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: quick for you, Josh, what you think your hunt schedule
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: is going to look like this year? What we're you
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: going to be hunting? What's that going to sure? Sure?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So so October, Um, October is going to be probably
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: my my best time, um in terms of having a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: full month to hunt. My my weekends in October will
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: be limited that Like, like I said, I've got two
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: different mentored hunts for work that I'm basically uh in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: charge of. I've got one the first weekend in October
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and one the second weekend of October. Um. You know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: there's some logistical things that I'm gonna have to take
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: care of for that and some planning. UM that will
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: take a time to take some time from my from
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: those weeks. But I'm hoping to get out a couple
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of times during the week. UM. Fortunately my schedule working
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: from home, I have the ability to hunt a little
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: bit more during the week than than some people. So, um,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that stuff is going to be just be primarily public
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: land around my house here, um or within you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: an hour or so to drive from my house. Um.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And then we're I don't know what, can I say
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: what we're doing in October? Like, yeah, is that good? Yeah? Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we're well that And then our our trip that we're
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: gonna take, Um, so where are you guys going, We're going?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Can I is this just good to say? Yeah, we've
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: talked about that. Are we okay? So we're going coming
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: out or something? Just cool? The same announcement. Now we're
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: we're heading up to the Boundary Waters in Minnesota to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: do a like a canoe in hunt up there for
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: white tails. Um. So we're like budgeting a week for
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that trip. So that's gonna that's gonna be uh one
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: of my hunts and the end of October really looking
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: forward to that one. Um, it should be a lot
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: of fun. But again, I've been spent a lot of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: time on on logistics for that one. There's a lot
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that goes into that one. So um, that's cool. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: then uh, November, I'm just gonna you know, try to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: find a hot spot. That's probably gonna be the time
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: when I'm spending a little bit more time in a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: little piece of a private I have access to UM again,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: hopefully during the week when some of the other guys
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that UM have permission to hunt it won't be there
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: as much. UM. I think it's like sixty acres seventy
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: or something like that, so it's not huge. I know
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: there's at least two other guys that hunt it, maybe
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: another another one. UM. Some of those guys just primarily
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: gun hunted. So I think if I can get out
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: there during the week, I'll have I'll have it to myself,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and I've had I have a pretty good line of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: communication with this other guy that hunts it, so we
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: kind of let each other know when we're gonna be
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: there and try to stay away UM if one of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: us is going to be out there, so it works
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: out well. But I'm hoping to get out there and uh,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you know, spend some time out there in November and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: hopefully October two if I'm hoping to get a camera
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: out there, so if I see something going on, i'll um,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I'll get out there. So UM, the only downside about
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that place, Mark, it sounds like they didn't get the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: fields planted in anything this year nothing. So yeah, so
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's not great, especially for early season stuff. Um,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: but I think there'll be some some cruisers in there
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: late October and in November, so um yeah, So that's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of my my plan. I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of it's just going to be winging it
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and getting out when I when I can so and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: then you get November gun November gun season. Yeah, I'll
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: be a deer amp and then um, um, you know
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that's always something I'm looking forward to. And man, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: feel like this year, like I'm more excited for that, um,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: for that trip than I have been a long time.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like things just keep getting better and keep
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: getting better and keep getting better, and like last year
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: was like really close to making it happen. Um, I've
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: got a lot of I've got a lot of hope
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and confidence um for this year. That's probably like if
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: we're talking about goals like that would probably be like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: my number one goal would be to kill a good
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: buck up there. That'd be awesome. It would be so
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it would be um, and I agree, I feel like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the Northern Michigan deer camp is making steady progress. So UM, okay,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: so that if that's one of your goals, what what
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: else would be considered a goal for you this year?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Given it's kind of tough, tough circumstances this year, with
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: time and everything. I mean, that look honestly like my
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: my buck goals. Um, you know, my kind of standards
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: are like a three and a half year old. UM.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I think my best chance for that is going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: be um that small piece of private that I have
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: access to. Um, but man, I would be I would
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: be stoked if I killed a good one in public.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And I've I've got a few spots that i've I've
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: i've found that I think it can maybe happen. Um,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Um, but I think really just kind of
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: filling my freezer with with some deer or over some
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: does would be um good for this year. I'm getting
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: low on venison. UM, I have another another mouth to feed, um,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you know, as he's getting older and eating real food. UM,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: so it would be nice too. It'd be nice to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: put a couple of doughs in the freezer this year, UM,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to kind of get a good re stock of venison. Um.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So I mean if I could, if I could put
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: two does in the freezer this year, i'd be I'd
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: be really happy. Um. You know, obviously i'd love to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: kill a buck. That's that's what I'm gonna be shooting for, um,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you know, really the whole season. But if I can
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: take a dough here or there, um, that'd be That'd
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: be awesome. And I really like to I'd really I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like to kill one of those doughs on public land
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: with my bow. That would be cool. So two doughs
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and the three and a half year old buck, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it'd be even better if you got that big one
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: up north exactly exactly. And and I think my goal
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: for our Minnesota trip would be to see a deer.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's my hope up there. Yeah, I think that's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a reasonable goal to have. What about you, Dan, what's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: your final schedule and what your goals would be then?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Given that schedule? Yeah, so let's see, we got a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: second week of September is going to Elk, second week
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of October we're going to South Dakota for meal deer.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And then obviously Iowa probably won't hunt much until you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: mid October. But as far as starting there for white tails, um,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I probably want to go. I probably want to get
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I got a new deep freeze, so I want to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: fill that out. My goal this year is to kill
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: three doughs, and I want to put that meat into
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: my freezer. Because I threw a piece of cardboard out
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: my window and it knocked the plug in out of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the wall and I didn't notice it of my old
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: deep freeze and all my meat defrosted everything, and so
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I had to throw away probably about there wasn't a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: lot in there. I would say about twenty five pounds
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of venison, and it really pissed me off. So I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: want to fill that freezer up again and get my
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: family back on the deer meat train, especially just the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: ground stuff that you can add to anything. Right, and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: then from the buck side of things, man, this might
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: be a year where I eat my tag. Just I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: got a couple of deer that have shown back up
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and I've only checked my trail cameras one time. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: got a couple of deer that have shown back up
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and they're nice and they're good, and I might eat
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a tag for them. So yeah, we we got to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, um, But before we
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: get to that real quick, what would a success for
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: your elk trip look like? What's your goal for that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Colorado trip? Shooting a bowl, shooting a cow, just getting Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting the first elk that comes within shooting line
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: range with my bow. Now, if we're if we're in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the mix right, we're gonna be going during the rut
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: or during the pre rud, I guess you would say.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And if I could get and we're in the mix
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: right and we're starting to hear bogle in and the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: responding and it's getting crazy like you see on a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: one of those premost videos, then I'll probably pass one
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to hopefully get a bowl. But if it's real slow
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and we're not having the encounters and a and uh
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a cow gives us the opportunity, I'm gonna I'll probably
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: take a shot at a dough and then meal deer
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: in South Dakota. Like I said, that's such a that's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: such a brand new thing that just to see a mule,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: your buck in its natural environment through the spotting scope
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and maybe take a stock even if I fail, would
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: be such a huge takeaway for me that I would
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: consider that a success just to even get a stock in. Yeah,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that would be that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, And we
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: need to take a quick break here to thank our
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: friends at on X and the on X Hunt app
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: is something I'm using a lot this time of year.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Here too, specific examples of what I've been doing recently.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Number one the mapping feature that allows you to mark
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: an area and actually measure an area like a polygon,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: create whatever shape you want on the map. It will
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: tell you exactly what the acreages. That's a very handy
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: when you're trying to plan out how much fertilizer seed
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to use on a food plot. Number two, I've been
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: setting up a bunch of new tree standing, tree settle locations.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: When I'm marking those on my map as a waypoint.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: On x now has custom icons. You can choose the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: waypoint icon to look like a tree stand or ground blind,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: a trail camra, or all sorts of other things, just
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to make it that much easier when you look at
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: your map to know exactly what waypoints mean. What very
• 29:06
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• 29:12
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• 29:16
  Speaker 1: This week with White Tailed Properties, we are joined by
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Justin Mason, a land specialist out of Illinois, and Justine
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: is going to be telling us about what are some
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: often overlooked things that buyers forget to communicate with their agents.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I think oftentimes buyers overlooked the fact that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they're already working with me as an agent. So if
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: they're browsing online and they see a property that they like,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they may just kind of impulse and call that other agent,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and then they forget to mention that they're working with
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: me as their agents. So they ask all these questions
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and then call me back and and tell me the news.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, did you first tell them that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you're working with me? Um, just so that you don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: step on the other agents toe. So is probably the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: most common overlook thing that myers, you know, forget to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: tell me as their agent. If you'd like to learn
• 30:06
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• 30:09
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• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that's m A s O N. Now what about your
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: back to Iowa? Back to these bucks? Walked me through
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: these handful of bucks that you think you're willing to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: pin your whole season on. Yeah. So you know we've
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: talked about the Spencer new hearth Buck right, so he's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: back this year. I don't know if you necessarily put
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on a ton of inches, but I think he's going
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to be a six year old this year. Uh, maybe
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a five year old. I don't know. But he's got
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the body, he's got the rack. Right, he's a shooter,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I have an idea where he's cruising through, so
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he's he's a hit lister. I mean, I just, I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: just I'm coming off of a year where I just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: shot my biggest buck. So it's not like I need
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to shoot. I don't know, I don't want to. I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't want to put any
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: restrictions on the first four year old that comes through
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: is going to get an arrow. That's not gonna happen
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: this year. I'm gonna be more specific in what I'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: targeting and and try to go with a set hit list. Now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: barring that, nothing gigantic walks through. You know, you know
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't have any history with or I don't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have a nutrail cameer pictures with a big six year
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: old one ninety walks by that you've never seen before,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You're not going to turn your nose up on it. Exactly, yeah,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: exactly exactly. He'll get an arrow sent his way. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I got a couple other deer that are
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: returning customers from last year that are gonna be really good.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they stick around, and I can. You know, there's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that are in play this year
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that weren't in play the year before, and that is
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this heavy rain in the spring cost some fields to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: be planted, just like you you were talking about further
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and some new fields that were in CRP previous years
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to be taken out of CRP and now they're an egg.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what's going to happen with the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: deer movement with these new fields in play. So it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a little bit of a
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: learning curve, right just and I think I'll be able
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to learn it by putting some trail cameras up in
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: these areas and checking them every once in a while.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I feel like I'm on point
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: with this farm now. And like I said, it took
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: me seven years to figure some of this stuff out
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: to where I think I got a shot at a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: really good deer this year, and if he if he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: does what he's done the last two years, um, then
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I probably won't even start hunting until m Man like
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: November five or sixth or something like that. He doesn't
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the last two years, he hasn't shown up until like
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the eleven or twelve, and he's stuck around to and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: then he disappears, and then he comes back pretty much
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: for late season and then he's gone again. So we're
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: talking about Narlie Charlie, right, that's right. So yet Narlie Charlie,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it sounds like he's a November type of strike. Uh October,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and you only get one You only have one tag
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in Iowa, only one archer tag. Right, Well, I can
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: get an archery tag and then I can buy a
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: late season tag if I fill my right, I can.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I can use them. I can use a bow for
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a muzzleloader tag. Okay, So well, I guess what I'm
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: trying to understand though, is if you know you want
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to go for Narlie Charlie in late or mid November,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: something you probably wouldn't want target spencer or dork or
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: something like that in early October because you don't want
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to shoot that with your bow and then not be
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: able to hunt Narlie Charlie on the eighth, ninth, tenth,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: or ever with your bow. Is that right? Right? Right?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So that's why A, I'm probably gonna stay out of there. Um,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I'll probably do some of those those observation hunts where
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I am hunting really easy access, hopefully with some kind
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: of visibility into the timber um And you've been on
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that farm before and there's that huge valley where you
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: can see a long ways if you get into it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So my goal is to, you know, maybe just camp
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: out on one of these easy access points and just
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: watch and then if I see something or my trail
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: cameras tell me something, then I'm going to jump in
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and go for the kill. Have you considered changing up
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: your normal trail camera locations two more zero in specifically
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: for Gnarly so instead of spreading them out where you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: usually do, have you thought about focusing all of your
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: stuff in the zones you think he's most likely to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: be Yep, And that's typically what I do every year,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is when I get a really good buck on camera
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I take some down somewhere else and bring them in
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to hope, hopefully zero in. But I won't do that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: until the actual hunting season, gotcha? Okay? Uh So Narlie,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Charlie's number one, Spencer's number two probably is dork up
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: there still. Yeah, Man, he's a nine year old this
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: year and he's probably like in the one high one thirties.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: So what happens if it's like November eight or ninth
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: or ten. You haven't seen Narlie yet, but this nine
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: year old dork Buck comes by that you've seen for
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: six years now, where we've been talking about him since
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the podcast started. I think, I mean, that's crazy. Well,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: are you going to have a hard time passing on him? See?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I have these debates. Let me
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: ask let me flip it and ask you that same question. Dude,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's really hard because you just came
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: off of the exact same year that I had. You
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: just shot your biggest buck ever, and I definitely come
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: into this year feel just more picky. I don't I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: don't have I have no pressure. You know, there's some
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: years if you don't kill buck for a year or
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: two you're like, you know what, I just need to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: get back into I gotta get some momentum again. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: gotta you know, I remember a few years ago, we're like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I used to shoot it, shoot up, shoot a four
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: year old, shoot a buck. Have that feeling again. You'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: get after it. But then when you have that success, now,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, I just want to hunt more. I want
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to challenge myself more. I want to wait and see
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: what might be out there. And yeah, if I if
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I don't feel a tag whatever, um, I kind of
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: feel if I if I was in your scenario. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and again we've said this many times. Scorer isn't everything,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: of course, but sometimes there's nothing wrong with being excited
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: about a deer that's really rare and exciting. And if
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you want to challenge yourself in that way, I have
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: no problem with that. And I myself sometimes i'm like that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: You know, like, there's this buck Frank last year that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he was he was obviously mature, but he was also
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the biggest antler deer I've ever seen before while hunting
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in Michigan, and that was really exciting and I wanted
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to try to kill him. Um, So I would probably
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in your scenario if I knew that Narlie was still alive,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Like if I got at least one picture knowing that
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he was around owned and I thought I was in
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the game, I would probably not shoot anything else unless
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like a no brainer, knock your socks off something similar
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to Narley came, but at least for a while, I'd
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: want at least give it a chance. You know, I'd
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: hate to go out there the first day of my racation.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I don't know. It'd be like
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if holy Field showed up again this year for me
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and he was like seven years old and a hundred
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: fifteen inches, but I'm also hunting a hundred and sixty
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: inch mega giant again. Um, it would be a huge dilemma.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. Um. In that case,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I might shoot holy Field just because it's been a
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: crazy thing for me. Um. But in your scenario, I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I could understand either way, whichever way you end up going,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I would get it. But I think I would probably
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: lean just a little bit towards at least give myself
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a chance to maybe see Gnarly. Um. I just see
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: him on the foot would be amazing. I mean, in
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the in the same goes for a nine and nine
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and a half year old buck who has pretty much
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: been not turnal on my farm the entire time that
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I've known him, Right, So I have a feeling he
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: goes somewhere else during the hunting season because I don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: get any pictures of him. I think early October I'll
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: get some pictures of him, But I don't know. There
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: there is a there is a something cool about the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: rarity of antlers, But at the same time, there's there's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: also a rarity to a really old buck that makes
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: it through the winters and making his body's huge, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he's just he's like the king ship of the world.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, I don't know. I'd
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: say that's more rare than a than antlers. You know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: nine and a half year old buck. I mean you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: don't you don't see that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: like a ghost. I mean, if you haven't been seeing it,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like if you're just totally nocturnal. Man, think about that story.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: If you're able to wrap your tag around nine and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: a half year old buck that finally slipped up and
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you were able to capitalize on it, that'd be that'd
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: be awesome. So let me ask you guys this. Then,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like this is a podcast we're telling we
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: tell stories. You know, we're storytellers. So what what's a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: better story? Hey man? I have two years of history, um,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: with this one buck, and he's got big anglers, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I end up, you know, putting the piece of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: puzzle together and I kill him. Or I got six
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: years of experience with this dear. He's nine and a
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: half years old, completely nocturnal. I figure him out and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I shot him and killed him. Well, Josh out to me,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: that's that. To me, it's an easy answer. Um, I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: would say that nine and a half year old buck
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that you've got so much history with, regardless of what
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: he scores, I just don't think you're gonna have another
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: opportunity out of nine and a half ye old buck
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: if to do it, maybe a long long time. UM.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: To me that that would be my answer. So my
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: my answer would be this, It would be I would
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I would agree with Josh, except for all of your
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: dork stuff has only ever been summer pictures like they're there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: There's never been actual hunting encounters or hunting season strategy
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: around him. Like he always disappears. So it's always been
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: like I got a picture of him the summer, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: then we don't hear about until the next year. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: got a picture dorc again, and then he disappears. If
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: if if it became like a hunting thing, if you've
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: been hunting him and seeing him for nine seasons, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: then I'd be like, no brainer, go after Dork. Given that,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I would say, you know, six years of summer pictures
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: kind of equals in my mind two years of hunting
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: actual in season, back and forth, back and forth with
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a mega giant. Probably. And I will also say, if
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: we're looking at story value to us internally, probably all
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: those years. If we're looking at story value to the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: outside public, we're kidding ourselves. If like, whether we like
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it or not, just the reality of the world is
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: that huge deer just get people excited. I mean that's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: just the truth of it. And uh, and you know
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with getting excited about a big deer,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and this big deer year after like people will get
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: excited about it. Um, no doubt about that. So I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: think you've got two great stories, whicheveryone ends up panning out.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: You're in good shape, So consider yourself lucky for that,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: right well, you know, and there's still the you know
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that part of the that part of the state right
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: now is in a drought advisory, So who knows what happens.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've had deer disappear in the past, you know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: never found them. E h d is a thing thing
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: again this year. So it's just I always have these
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: these awesome conversations with everybody, Hey, what are you doing?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe flat show camp picks, whatever. But the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: truth of the matter is, I'm not making any decisions
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: up until the day I get into that tree stand
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: and a deer walks by. That's when I make my decision.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Right if, in the words of Dan Johnson in the
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: year two thousand and eight, if it makes me go, uh,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot, that's a fact, Man's I'll always remember
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that clip. Yeah, and that crazy how far back that goes.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: We're getting old, dude. Um. So I'll walk through my
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: schedule for you guys. It keeps on getting changed since
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the last time we talked to all the stand Um.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm doing this North Dakota hunt at the beginning
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of the season. It's August thirty through September seven, so
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that's a public land hunt. Um. Spencer new Heart is
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: going to join me now for that one, so that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: should be cool. My goals for that hunt are to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: kill mature buck. I'll be pumped if we can finally
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: find a mature deer during hunting season and getting there on.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like we kinda just didn't have enough time
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: or didn't quite get to figure it out last year
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: when me and Josh were out there. So I want
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to take another stab. Um. So that's my goal there.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I just want to figure it out. Like it's just
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: being like a little bit of a thorn in my side,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: so I need that whatever that feeling is the fulfillment
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of answering the question, right, and that's what I need
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to figure out there. Um. And then I'll come back
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, take care of stuff around
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the house, be a dad again, and then October one
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and that whole time will begin a bunch of Michigan
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: hunting for me, hunting a couple of spots in Michigan. Um,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and then that mid October hunt that Josh talked, well,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I am going to go in one of those field
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: of fork mentor hunts with Josh and mentors new hunters.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, the third week in October, we're shooting
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: for the Minnesota hunt. UM. I agree with Josh. My
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: goal there is to just see some deer and survive. Um.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: If we survived the trip find some deer, I will
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: be like, wow, we did great. UM. As far as
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: what I would shoot, I will shoot probably anything that's legal. UM.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: That's my my goal. From a what I will target
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on that hunt, I'd be to take any deer out
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: of there. I feel like canoe in you know, ten fifteen,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: twenty miles or whatever ends up being in that kind
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: of wilderness. I feel like getting in and out of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: there with a deer would be one heck of an accomplishment. UM.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So that's my Minnesota thoughts. UM. And then get back
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: again focusing on Michigan through the rut this year UM.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: And then Ken Rovan toward Deer Camp. Same thing as
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Josh looking forward to that. Would love to take a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: nice buck up there. I will say that my goals
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: as far as Michigan deer this year are a little
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: bit location dependent. In that up there at the deer camp,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I would happily shoot a three year old. Like, if
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: there's like a decent little three year old buck, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: would shoot that thing in a heartbeat up there. That'd
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: be amazing. Um. While down in southern Michigan and these
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: other spots, I'm becoming much more picky, um, just because
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I know there's some potential I've been putting in a
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: lot of time and work. I'm I'm just trying to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: ramp it up to the next level now, especially. I mean,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I can't set my standards by Frank because that's unrealistic
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: for most years around here. But I'd be lying if
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't see him in the back of my mind
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: a lot when I'm like, you know, like the just
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: some dear jokes don't have the same jaw dropping effect
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: they used to have. After I've now had a bunch
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of encounters with a deer like Frank here. Um. So
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be brought back down to reality this season.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: It's guaranteed to happen. But there's something about that area, though, Mark,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that is holding good dear right. It's not a coincidence
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that holy Field got old, that Dear got old, and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: so it's not to say that another deer won't get
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: old in that in that neighborhood. I feel like that's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: an under like your underestimating yourself. That's a good point.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It definitely has it had this little spot I've been
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: hunting for it's like eight years a now or something.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It's come a long way. It has been cool to
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: see the progress. You know, those first few years I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: was hunting here, I was lucky to have one three
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: year old to hunt. And then fast forward two years,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: like five six. Then you know, I saw there was
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: one buck that maybe was four one year, and then
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the Holy Field years, you had this one buck that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: kept coming back for three years in a row, made
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it to five or six. That was that was cool
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and that you're right, there's there's a couple of properties.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I think the act as sanctuaries. And then I do think, um,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and I want to pat myself on the back too
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: much here, but I I think it's probably fair to
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: say that the fact that I've been handling the property,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I can hunt with like kids gloves like white you know,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like white gloves, I think is the term like I'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: so careful, trying to be so clean when I hunt it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably helped and I've been trying to
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: improve habitat on it as much as I can. I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: have a lot of good food out there most years now.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's helped have more deer hang out of
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: my property. That then I'm the one that gets to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: make the trigger decision on so instead of all these
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: bucks being all over the place and getting shot by everyone,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a disproportionate number hang out in my food sources where
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I'm passing of them. So I do think that probably
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: has helped. Um. So you're right. I think there's a
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: good chance that could be a four year old again,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and I hope that Buck is going to be tran.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: He was the three year old last year that I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: saw a lot I did. Um. I've been starting to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: put together a little spreadsheet on him and I have
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I think the numbers fifteen different days during the hunting
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: season last year. I have either a daylight photos of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: him or daylight actual visual encounters of him. So of
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the three months season, so ninety days he was moving
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: fifteen days in daylight that I can confirm. That's pretty
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: good for Michigan buck. Um. So I think he's pretty
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: killable if he if he comes back. I have not
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: gotten a confirmed trial camera picture of him yet. Um
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: but my summer troal camera pictures around here are usually
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: pretty lousy anyway, so I'm not putting too much too
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: much into that. Um but yeah, definitely a four year
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: old or older. I did. I have been getting some
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: some scouting intel. There's a pretty darn nice ten pointer
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing here recently, saw three days in a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: row last week, some across the road from the main property.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I can hunt a couple of days actually on the property.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I can hunt, and he he's either a really nice
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: three year old or like it's a good solid four
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: year old. I don't know yet, so hard to tell him,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: like when they're standing chest high and soybeans and stuff. Um,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: but if he's a four year old hill bear, no brainer. Um,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be mid on a mid one thirties.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: If I'm trying to be conservative with it, you could,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you know, he twisted my arm and I'm really excited.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I would say he's high one thirties. But in reality,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: once the albot comes off, he's probably a little smaller.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: But he's like a really nice Michigan buck any other year.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I look back over all the years
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I've hunted this property, Frank was obviously the biggest. This
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: buck would probably the second largest deer that I've had. Well,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: there's there was one other mega giant that showed up
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of times in the summer, really early, but consistently.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: If this buck sticks around, he'll be the second biggest
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: deer probably is that that's been here. If he becomes
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: a huntable buck, So so that's pretty cool. How far
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is he how can you can you answer that? Or
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: from here? From that property? How far is you can
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that property to make him unable? Oh? Well, twice I've
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: seen him on the property I can hunt, and then
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: once I saw him just across the road from it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So very huntable. Um, if he you know, if his
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: summer range is the same as fault, if he stays around,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he seems like and I've got a bunch of pictures
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: of him too, So he's been very much on the
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: proper day hunt so far this summer. So figures crossed.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: That could be a good situation. Um, But yeah, that
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you don't have any You don't have any pictures of him.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: You haven't pulled cards since you've seen him yet, have you?
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I do have pictures of him. Yep, yep. I went
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and looked back that original nice buck that I posted
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: pictures of right when I got back from Montana. That
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: was him. He just had him. He just hadn't grown
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: much time length it when I had that picture. Um.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And then I have multiple pictures of him like profile
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: view walking. I don't have any really good like head
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on pictures of him, um, but multiple profile shots as
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: he walks to the side, you know. So it'll be
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: interesting to see what those dear do UM on that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: main piece you can hunt now that it's like planet
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and two different things. I think you said, that's the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: first time that's happened since you've been there. Yeah, since
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you've been hunting. It will be interesting to see how
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: that has a has an effect on which dear stay,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: which dear leaves. Um. Maybe you'll hold more dear. It'll
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Okay, we need to take another
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: quick break here to thank our friends at Morton Buildings,
• 51:06
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• 51:10
  Speaker 1: If you need more space for your dear mounts, like
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: my wife is saying to me, or if you need
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: someone to store your tractor or want a building on
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a new deer hunting property to put some bunks in,
• 51:20
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• 51:23
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• 51:27
  Speaker 1: super intrigued. I keep on waiting to put one of
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: these up somewhere someday that as the hope. And I've
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: been learning more about they have to offer by visiting
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Morton Buildings dot com, and I suggest you do the same.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: And while we're at it, I also want to thank
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Vortex Optics. And it's that time of year that I'm
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: out there watching bucks in the crop fields, and I
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: would say that a good spotting scope can make all
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: the difference and how enjoyable that kind of evening activity is.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I personally have been rocking the Vortex Viper HD scope
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: most often, and I'm using a phone scope attachment so
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: i can attach my phone to that scope and then
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I can photograph and video deer with my iPhone. Really
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: easily turns out great. I love it. You also get
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to see the screen, you know, instead of looking through
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the I piece, which is great. But you can now
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: also attach your phone, which is super handy. And the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Vortex Viper HD gets me a nice crisp, clear image
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and really reaches out there and touches these deer. So
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: if you're hoping to do something similar over these final
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: weeks leading up to the season, I'd encourage you to
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: check out what Vortex has to offer as far as
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: their spotting scopes, and you can find that at Vortex
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Optics dot com. Yeah. I don't think I told you that, Dan,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: But the main farm now is is usually it's always
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: just one type of crops either corner beans and it's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: rotade every year. But this year, because of how wet
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: it was early, they planted corn on one side of
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the farm, but they didn't plant the north side of
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the farm until late in the summer or late in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the spring, and that's beans. So for the first time
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I've got both major crops on the farm. Well that's
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: gonna help, I think. Yeah, I'm kind of excited to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: see what that does for things. So so, yeah, I
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: mean this new buck, we've been kind of calling him
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: risky business, is what my buddy, well, you know, you know, Corey.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Corey dubbed him risky business because if he's a three
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: year old, he's like, it's very risky for him to
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: come close to me because of how impressive he looks. Um,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm still on the fence. If he's a three
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: year old, would I take that buck? I don't know,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: because he'd be, like I said, the second biggest y
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I've ever been on a hunt here. But he's not.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: If he's not a four year old, that makes him
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: it's a tough decision for me. I don't know. I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: just kind of to feel that one out. Um, So
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: r B is definitely one on paying attention to. And
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: then I think Trans gonna show back up. But if
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Trans shows back up, he'll be a stud I think.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited to see that. Um, what you
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: should do is and I'm I'm doing this in quotations,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and one's a regular quotations and one looks like a
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: comma but finger quotes that. Oh yeah, I see, I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: get it now, Okay, I should apostrophe yeah anyway, but anyway, yeah, idiot,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: but you should accidentally take a lawnmower and run over
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: some of those beans, knock them down, or or do
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: it legally and not accidentally run over him. But asked
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the farmer to see if he can keep some of
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: them up. That would be nice. Pay him, pay him
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: like you know, paying for However, many bushels come out
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: of an acre and they say, hey, maybe we leave
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: an acre beans up, or you know, a half acre
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: or something like that. It would be awesome to have
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: an acre standing beans. I mean that that pull them in,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I'm always amazed though here how
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: much they they they hammer the bean fields even after
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: they're they're harvested for a long time. There must be
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of waste screen. This farmer's combine must miss
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: a lot because they stay on those picked fields for
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: much longer than I've seen in many other places. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: it's always it seems to be. I get a lot
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of good food source actions still well into late season,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. It's gonna be interesting hunting, like you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: kind of similar to you on your main farm. I've
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: been hunting this main farm now for eight years or
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: something like that, so I have a lot of experience
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: with it. I didn't have to do a lot of
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: new work on it. I just check the straps on
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: my existing stands. I prepped one new location. UM, I
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: gotta finalize my food plots. I'm still dealing with that. UM.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: But I know kind of what's happening. I'll hunt my
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: main spots until I see different behavior, and if I
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: see different behavior, I'll just run and gun hang a
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: saddle somewhere new. Um, But I don't need to reinvent
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the whealel. I don't think I've got a pretty good
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: handle on what's happening. So I do have a new
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: farm I'm hunting this year on that Joshua hunt. A
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: couple of times. We've probably been doing some work out
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: there recently, and and that will be a brand new
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: one and that will be some new a lot of
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of learning to do there, So I don't
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: know what to expect if if you know, I still
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten any trout camera pictures of the mature buck
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: out there, so I don't know what's there, but I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: gotta believe there would be something eventually. So that's like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a big TB D. I don't have a whole lot
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: of exciting stuff to share, but but hopefully by the
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: time season comes around, that will be like my second
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: really good kind of local spot and we'll have something
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to talk about there at that point. But question marks otherwise,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and I guess the one other the one other hunt.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I told you last time we talked about our schedule
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: that I was going to try to do this New
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: York hunt and do like a big woods tracking a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: deer in the snow. That one fell through, but it's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: been replaced with a late season muzzleloader hunt in Nebraska
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of the Mediator crew. So I'm gonna
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: tryt some public land, um late in the year out
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: there and see what that's like. So that would be
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: a wild card. I have no expectations. I don't know
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: what that will be like, but um, that would be
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: a fun time to get out there and explore a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: different landscape again. So that's it. And it's paid for
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: by the company. That is a it's it's nice to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: be able to have my hunting be work as well.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: So that's what my season looks like. It's it's it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be a busy one. And did we talk about
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: this on the podcast yet? Did I tell you this? Dan?
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I did tell you this. This
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: is what I've got a second child in the way.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Did I tell you that? I didn't know that until
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: right now. Yes, It's I'm so like lost on like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: who knows and what Yeah, we got another one on
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the way, so that makes him a little interesting. Get
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: that a stack to me, buddy, I know, yea, yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: this is the end for us, so good. Well, first off, congratulations, thanks,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, number two is a little scary though
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: everything you told me. All right, now, how old your
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: how old your boy? Right now? He's a little over
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a year and a half now, a little over a
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: year and a half. Okay, cool, So he's really close
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to my uh my son. So let's see. Do you
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: know if it's a boy or a girl yet? We
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: do not know yet? Do not you know? Are you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: gonna find out? We are going to find out. We'll
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: get to find out in September. Cool. Well, congratulations, and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: yeah I don't have three, I guess. I mean, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. Any any any advice
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: for having a toddler and a pregnant wife at the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: same time. How should I deal with that during hunting season? Anything?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I need to be a little more careful about. Man,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: You get out of the house, that's how you deal.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Just get out, leave for a week in Minnesota with
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: no service and Nebraska. Yeah, my wife's uh, it's it's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: should be the exact same due date that ever was
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: so early February early February. Were you planning for this?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, given your respective career, were you planning to
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: have a baby after January? We definitely, we weren't planning
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: everyone yet. We were thinking like a little bit later,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: we would try, like a few like handful months later,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: maybe we'd start, you know, trying to make that happen. Um, say,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: were you about to say, start exploring, experimenting, but maybe
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that try because this time, you know, we're gonna explore
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: each other's bodies. This time, I was trying to avoid
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: this conversation. Uh so, yeah, we're we we definitely do
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: try to keep hunting season in mind. Um, so we
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: wanted to avoid hunting season. But it was a little
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: bit of a surprise, but but certainly not so outside
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: of the real and possibility that it was totally shocking.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're excited. But of course it brings all
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: sorts of new things to mind, and and that will
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: probably change my hunting season a little bit. If if
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: you know, if the pregnancies more of a struggle for her,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: if she's not feeling well or whatever, that I might
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: need to cut back on some stuff and be around more.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, this will be the last time season
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: with just one, so I gotta take advantage of it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I supposed to. I've got one final thing I want
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: to cover with everyone because I feel we've covered our plans,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: We've covered our big goals. Um, you know my big
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: goal was mature buck in North Dakota, survive Minnesota. I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: think I can kill two mature bucks in Michigan between
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the three different farms I talked about, and then Nebraska.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Just have a good time. Um, no expectations there. UM.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I want us each to think of a challenge for
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: one of the other two here, so you can we
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: could either give a challenge to each person or if
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: we just want to each pick someone and give them
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: a chance. We've done this in the past year's Dan,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: We're gonna give one piece of advice or one thing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: we want the other guy to do this coming season
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: or in the coming weeks leading up to this season.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: So we've got just something to push us a little harder.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So I've got a couple. I've got one for each
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: of you. Um, and then I'll give you guy, it
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: is time to think of yours. So for Josh, my
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: challenge for you is to we kind of have already
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: touched on this, but I still want to lock down
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: one good piece of private land that you can hunt
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: without having to ask someone else if you can do it. So,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: if that's this one piece that you've already been talking about,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: if you've got a position now that you can hunted
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: on your own and you're in good place, just lock
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that down. My challenge for you is to get that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: locked and to get it prepped so that you can
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: be out there in early November whenever you find the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: time and you can get that buck. So that's my
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: personal challenge to you. I really want to see you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: kill a good one in Michigan this year. I like that.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good one because that would be
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the challenge I would have given myself. Maybe it's too easy.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: My challenge for Dan, because of some of the struggle
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: not struggles, but challenges that both you and I have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: had over the years, and we've talked about it, my
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: challenge to you is to try to find time to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: continue your bow practice in season, so make sure that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the season doesn't hit and then you just are running
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: around and you don't shoot your bow anymore. We gotta
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: we both need to have some killer shots on deer
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: this year, I think, and I think for both of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: us to do that, we gotta keep keep up our
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: good habits or working on Now. We got to keep
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: that all the way through the season so we don't
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden have a month that passes by
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: during the season we haven't been shooting her bow. So
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that's my personal challenge to you. Um, those are my two.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Do either one of you have an idea that you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: want to share for any of us. I will say
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: something to Josh, And this is in all seriousness, by
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: the way, It's not meant to be a joke. But
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: you only have one kid, and I heard you. I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: heard you already talking about man, I gotta make sure
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I get home and and be there for my wife
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: when she needs me and family. How old your kid now?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Just a couple of months? Six weeks old? Okay, six
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: weeks right, so that is probably the easiest age to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: take care of a child. Yeah, right, do like this
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: is this is and I know it's stressful time a year,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you know you're you're just new parents, but one kid
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: is easier to take is easier to watch than two kids.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Two kids are easier to watch than three kids. A
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: baby is easier to watch than a toddler. A toddler.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: A toddler is easier to watch them. And then you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: get into activities and you're hunting. Is time as you
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: get older with your family is actually going to shrink.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: So my challenge to you is, although you do have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a kid, take advantage of this time to still continue
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: to hunt and make sure you put in time for
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: hunting to I mean, it's your passion, right, Like I said,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I think it, I think it will. I think I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: confident that like we'll kind of figure it out right,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: we'll settle into like a good, um, a good routine
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: with him, and I think I'll have more time than
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: maybe what I'm thinking I will right now. Um, So
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm hoping for anyway. Um So, no,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's some great points there. Yeah. And
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: then for Mark Man, I don't I don't know. I'm
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: just I wish I could hunt as much as you.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily have a challenge for
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: you other than I know there's times on some of
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: your farms where I you play on the side of caution.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: And I almost feel like there's a time, especially a year,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: where you're coming off killing an absolute stud animal, to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to try and be aggressive. And maybe I'm wrong and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: an aggressive move doesn't work, but maybe I'm right in
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: an aggressive move maybe early in the season or um,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: when a deer pops up and you take a slow
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: step first before you take the fast step, take the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: fast step first, and see what happens. I like it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I definitely. I feel like every year that's something that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I liked that I have in the back of my
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: mind too, is I'm getting more and more comfortable with
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: being a little more aggressive. So I think that's a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: good challenge. Thank you for that, Dan, Josh you anything, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still thinking of one for Dan here, but I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: got one for you. And we've talked a little bit
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: about it before, probably on air and off air, but
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: just to just to make sure you're you're you're enjoying
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: it right, like not stressing yourself out too much about
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: um what you need to be doing and and um,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: just making sure you remember what it's all about and
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: uh have a good time. UM. That would be my
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: my one challenge, and I think you've you've come along
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: way with that. I think probably um, having ever written,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: having a year that you had last year kind of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: helped put things in perspective. But I just I worry
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: about you when you get stressed out about stuff. So
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: just keep keep that all in perspective and what getting
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to do? Um and Dan Man, I don't I don't know. UM,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I think maybe along your lines of stuff, being aggressive.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be on a couple of out
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of state hunts that are probably going to be what
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: just a week in time, and just making sure you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: stay aggressive. I think that was one of my mistakes
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: in North Dakota last year, was not being aggressive enough. Um.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just just stay after him, getting tight on
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: him if you can. And and uh, you only got
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: a week, can't screw it up too bad. So that's right,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: that's right. And it's public land, so it's almost like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it's meant to be screwed, screwed exactly. True. I've got
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: one more actually for all three of us, and it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: kind of ties into situations that we're all in for
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: different reasons. Um. You know, Dan, you and I have
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: had at times occasional struggles with rushing our shots and stuff. Josh,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: you haven't necessarily had that problem, but you know you're
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: still you know, I haven't hunt you haven't killed two
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: billion deer yet. Um So, I think all three of
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: us a good thing to do would be to try
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: to kill more deer in general, like kill more does
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: this year, just because we had this conversation with Mark
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Drew the other day and that there's nothing that prepares
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you to handle the moment of truth better than just
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: being in it often, being in that moment often and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: dealing with it. And so for me, dealing with these
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: different variations of target panic over the last couple of
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: years and trying to just lock down a better shot process.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Um I switched this back tension release that we've been
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: talking about, and for me, a personal goal is to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: is to shoot more deer with my bow using that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: back tension release, just to have like a newfound, rock
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: solid confidence in that thing. Um So, personally, I want
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to target does earlier than usual, early and often, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: go into the rut like feeling like ice cold gonna
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: make it happen no matter what, because I've already yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I've already put three doughs in the ground or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, and I've had perfect shots, like I
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  Speaker 1: want perfect shots this year. I don't want to have
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  Speaker 1: a shot that's like when I was a little back
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  Speaker 1: or I was a little high, but I got him. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I've had too many shots like that over the years
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  Speaker 1: that they got the job done. I've been very fortunate
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  Speaker 1: only wound one dear I didn't find right away. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't want to have as well it was Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I want perfect shots this year. That's my big goal
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  Speaker 1: for myself. Um. Some I'm working hard trying to make
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  Speaker 1: it happen. And um, we'll see if it comes together.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm trying to push myself to do.
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  Speaker 1: So with that, I think we've covered a lot of ground. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good to wrap it up. A few guys there,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go fishing, so yeah, let's wrap it up. Nice.
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  Speaker 1: Got your living the dream now? Man, that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: You should have seen my week this week. I deserve
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  Speaker 1: to go fishing, all right, You deserve to go fishing.
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  Speaker 1: Three kids doesn't sound so bad, seriously, all right, guys, Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you Dan, thank you Josh, and uh, before you
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  Speaker 1: know it, a few more weeks when we be out
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  Speaker 1: there with the bows and arrows, so oh, let's get
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  Speaker 1: after it and that will do it. Another episode is
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  Speaker 1: on the shelf. Hopefully guys enjoyed this fun one bs
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit and uh setting things up for
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  Speaker 1: the upcoming season. As you know, we'd like to have
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  Speaker 1: these in depth interviews with different experts across the country.
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  Speaker 1: But then I also think it's important that we share
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  Speaker 1: our own personal stories so you can kind of see
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  Speaker 1: how we're trying to implement the different ideas that we're
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: learning from all these guests throughout the year. So now
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: you know kind of what we're shooting for, what we're
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: trying for, what's up to come in the coming weeks
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  Speaker 1: and months, and hopefully you'll follow along, hopefully you have
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: some some exciting trips and hunts of your own, and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: hopefully laid out some goals you can be working towards.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: And Uh. In the meantime, I just want to thank
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: you for spending this time with us, thanks for laughing along,
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  Speaker 1: for following along with our journey, and when we chat
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  Speaker 1: to you next, I hope you'll stay wired to hunt