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- 0:00Hello again. Thanks for joining us on a
- 0:02Q&A edition of Space Nuts. My name is
- 0:05Andrew Dunley and today we will be I
- 0:08won't Fred will be answering questions
- 0:10about uh the former planet known as
- 0:14Thea. Uh galaxy merges have come up. Um,
- 0:18we go back to Mars uh with a theory
- 0:21about Olympus Mons and why only
- 0:25hydrogen? That is a question uh that
- 0:28comes from, I believe, a 5-year-old.
- 0:30We'll deal with all of that today on
- 0:32this edition of Space Nuts.
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- 0:51>> And to solve all of those little
- 0:53riddles, we're joined again by Professor
- 0:54Fred Watson, astronomer at large. Hello,
- 0:57Fred.
- 0:58>> Hello, Andrew. Very good to see you
- 1:00again.
- 1:00>> Good to see you, too. We've got a bit of
- 1:03weird noise on your line. I I think it's
- 1:05probably just the internet being the
- 1:07internet, so hopefully that'll go away.
- 1:09>> In fact, it just did. So, yeah. There
- 1:11you go. solved itself. It must have
- 1:13heard me winging.
- 1:15>> All is well, I assume.
- 1:17>> Uh yeah, we're doing fine. Thank you. Uh
- 1:19it's good to join you on the questions
- 1:22episode of uh what's this called again?
- 1:24Oh, Space Nuts. That's right.
- 1:26>> Space idiots. Uh Space Nuts. Yes. Yeah.
- 1:28No, they're all good people. Uh we might
- 1:31as well jump in straight away to our
- 1:33first question, and it comes from one of
- 1:37our regular contributors. It's Rusty.
- 1:39Good day, Fred and Andrew. It's Rusty in
- 1:42Donny Brook. I've been listening to your
- 1:45latest episode
- 1:47where you look at the relationship
- 1:51between Sea and the Earth before the
- 1:55collision. And I just want to make sure
- 1:59I've got the story straight, so I'll put
- 2:02it in my own words. The Earth had a
- 2:04buddy named Thea who came a little too
- 2:08near. She hit with a splash, then made
- 2:12off with a dash. But there's no mooning
- 2:16for Thea around here. So, what happened
- 2:19to Thea after the collision? The
- 2:22theories prior to this revelation said
- 2:26Thea had enough kinetic energy to leave
- 2:29the solar system altogether. But if the
- 2:31orbits were so close, that doesn't seem
- 2:33likely. So, it seems to me there's three
- 2:37possibilities
- 2:38that Thea fell into the sun, which would
- 2:42be another amazing feat to get that uh
- 2:47sort of precision after the collision.
- 2:49Sea picked up a little slingshot energy
- 2:52and moved out further and became Mars.
- 2:57Now, Mars is a Mars size object after
- 3:01all. And the third possibility I can
- 3:03think of is that it picked up an
- 3:06unlikely amount of kinetic energy and
- 3:10became
- 3:11planet 9. So, if it did become planet 9,
- 3:17it would have a highly eccentric orbit
- 3:20because it's too far away for us to
- 3:22actually see at the moment. But would
- 3:26this orbit then at some stage bring it
- 3:30back uh to the inner solar system of its
- 3:34origin?
- 3:35>> That's it. Hope you guys are well.
- 3:38Cheers.
- 3:39>> Thanks, Rusty. Hope you're well, too. Uh
- 3:41over there in WA. Um what happened to
- 3:44Thea? He's come up with some interesting
- 3:45theories. Uh quite a few ideas. I I'm
- 3:48guessing they can't all be true.
- 3:52Um, I think that's right. There's
- 3:54there's actually a fourth possibility
- 3:57>> uh added to the three that uh that Rusty
- 4:01has
- 4:03proposed. Uh, and I think that's the one
- 4:05that's usually accepted and there's kind
- 4:07of evidence for that. Uh, the fourth
- 4:10possibility is that the basically was
- 4:14absorbed into the earth. the remnants of
- 4:16the air uh are actually in the earth's
- 4:21mantle. And in fact uh there's something
- 4:26called and there are two of these uh a
- 4:29large low sheer velocity province in the
- 4:33earth's lower mantle and the hypothesis
- 4:37is that that is the remnants of the
- 4:40year. uh so that we still see the
- 4:42evidence of that collision by anomalies
- 4:45basically in the earth's mantle which we
- 4:49investigate seis you know with
- 4:51seismology that's how we know about
- 4:53what's going on in the mantle of the
- 4:55earth it's how we know about large low
- 4:57sheer velocity provinces um uh I'm kind
- 5:00of just using the words here because I'm
- 5:03not somebody who knows about the inside
- 5:05of the planet uh other than the the the
- 5:07you know the sketchiest outline uh of a
- 5:10core, a mantle and uh and a crust. But
- 5:13uh the mantle we know has significant
- 5:16structure. Uh and in fact um Manny and I
- 5:18have a a good friend um who Nick Pford
- 5:23who is a volcanologist and he's somebody
- 5:26who looks at these velocity structures
- 5:29in the uh in the mantle of the earth uh
- 5:32and you know the the upwelling of
- 5:35material to form volcanoes and things
- 5:37like that. Uh next time we see Nick I
- 5:39will ask him about these large scale low
- 5:42velocity shear areas uh and uh their
- 5:46relationship to the but I think that's
- 5:48the consensus uh Rusty that uh the
- 5:51impact basically uh resulted in an
- 5:55explosion uh which shed uh something
- 5:59like um I think one of the suggestions
- 6:02is about 70 70%
- 6:05uh of the mass of the moon uh may have
- 6:10come from thea. I'm actually um um I
- 6:14think that might
- 6:17let's let's put it this way. Thea is
- 6:19responsible for 70 to 90% of the total
- 6:23mass of the moon under the classic giant
- 6:25impact scenario
- 6:28where thea is considerably smaller than
- 6:30a proto earth which it would have been.
- 6:32Uh the earth was still kind of earthish
- 6:35sized. Thea was Marsish sized. Uh but
- 6:39the earth would have probably grown a
- 6:40bit by absorbing uh the debris from the
- 6:44uh remember that the the mass of the
- 6:46moon is about 180th of the mass of the
- 6:48earth.
- 6:49>> Uh so it's a significantly large body
- 6:51compared with the other moons in the
- 6:53solar system. Uh but uh it's it's
- 6:56clearly smaller than uh you know it's
- 6:58not Mars sized. And so Rusty's right in
- 7:02that that, you know, the remnants of the
- 7:05had to do something, but the current
- 7:07theory is that they were absorbed by the
- 7:09proto Earth and we can still see
- 7:11evidence for them.
- 7:12>> Yeah. Um
- 7:15Okay. So yeah, definitely not likely to
- 7:18be P9. That would be a very
- 7:22odd kind of occurrence, wouldn't it?
- 7:25>> Yeah. Well, yes. Um I I think the
- 7:28kinematics don't work. you you you know
- 7:31you you you can't give it enough
- 7:33velocity and you need you need a lot of
- 7:36velocity for it to fall back into the
- 7:37sun as well too too much energy that's
- 7:40quite an energetic process is is getting
- 7:43rid of the orbital velocity of a body to
- 7:45make it fall into the sun it's you know
- 7:47you need as much energy as you do to get
- 7:49it pushed out uh to the outer planet so
- 7:52>> yeah um didn't we talk about it once
- 7:55before and suggest that remnants of it
- 7:57just probably speared off into case
- 7:59never to be seen again. I
- 8:00>> I'm sure there would have been an
- 8:02element of that. Yes. And you know that
- 8:04that debris cloud that eventually formed
- 8:06the moon probably lost some of its some
- 8:08of its uh material content. Uh and it
- 8:12there may even be stuff wandering around
- 8:14uh in the form of nearear asteroids now
- 8:16that are bits and pieces that are left
- 8:18over from that. But remember this was
- 8:20you know this was within the first
- 8:23couple hundred million years of the
- 8:24history of the solar system. So, you're
- 8:27talking about things that happened a
- 8:28very long time ago.
- 8:30>> Yeah, indeed. Um, I'm I'm wondering,
- 8:33Fred, why we've just got this sudden
- 8:36influx of people asking questions in
- 8:39poem. This is I'm blaming uh Martin for
- 8:44that. Martin Burman Gorvine, you started
- 8:46this and now it's taking
- 8:48>> I actually think um I I I really liked
- 8:51Russ Rusty's one there about the I
- 8:53thought that was very nice.
- 8:54>> Yeah. I don't know. I think he pushed it
- 8:55a bit on one of those one of those
- 8:57rhymes. Yeah. Um although there there
- 9:00was a regular guest and I'm sure you
- 9:01know who I'm talking about. Cole Wilson
- 9:03who used to join us on the radio once a
- 9:04week to do um bush poetry.
- 9:07>> She blew the sheer and he often got
- 9:09asked to do shearing demonstrations and
- 9:11he had to tell them look I'm not a
- 9:12sheer. I can't shear a sheep to save my
- 9:15life. It's just my show name. But he he
- 9:18used to actually invent words to create
- 9:22rhymes.
- 9:24It was one of his wonderful traits and
- 9:27um yeah uh I used to spend a lot of time
- 9:29with Cole. He's a terrific bloke. Um I
- 9:32think we've dealt with Rusty's uh
- 9:35theories and they were all wrong.
- 9:38>> Thanks Rusty.
- 9:39>> Thanks Rusty. Great to hear from you.
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- 11:11>> Swift
- 11:13base here. The angle has landed.
- 11:16>> Space nets.
- 11:17>> Let's move on to our next question and
- 11:19this one I've lost. Uh here it is. Uh
- 11:22this comes from Lena. I am a new
- 11:24listener and not as hardcore a space nut
- 11:27as most of your audience. Uh it's
- 11:30probably a good thing. Uh but I saw an
- 11:32article today talking about merging
- 11:34spiral galaxies. If the universe is
- 11:36expanding, how does something as large
- 11:38as a galaxy move toward and merge with
- 11:42another galaxy? It seems they should be
- 11:44moving further away from each other. Uh
- 11:46that comes from Molina in British
- 11:48Columbia in Canada. Uh I think we've had
- 11:53questions of this ilk before, but it's
- 11:55always good to go over it again because
- 11:57there's a lot more going on in the
- 11:59universe than just, you know, spreading
- 12:01out like school children playing what's
- 12:04that game where you don't, you know, I
- 12:06don't know what you call it. Um
- 12:08something you throw a ball and try and
- 12:09hit someone in the head. Anyway, go on.
- 12:12That's cricket, isn't it?
- 12:14>> No. No. Dodgeball. Dodgeball. And And
- 12:18there's a whole bunch of games like
- 12:20that. Like, uh, Red Rover Crossover. Did
- 12:22you ever play that?
- 12:23>> Uh, we Oh, no. We used to have a lot of
- 12:26fun with that.
- 12:28>> Um, anyway, uh, look, Lena's question is
- 12:31a great one. And I I guess the the
- 12:34simplest answer here is that yes,
- 12:36galaxies are big, but they're tiny
- 12:39compared with the universe. And so the
- 12:43expansion of the universe is something
- 12:44that we look at on very large scales.
- 12:48You know, you're looking out billions of
- 12:50light years uh and seeing this
- 12:53expansion. It's actually with today's
- 12:56technology, it's one of the easiest
- 12:57observations that you can make uh that
- 13:00the universe is expanding. Discovered um
- 13:02back in 1929 by Edwin Hubble. Uh so uh
- 13:06yes so if the universe is expanding, if
- 13:08space is getting bigger and naturally
- 13:11carrying things further and further
- 13:12apart, why are some galaxies coming
- 13:14towards each other? And it's because on
- 13:16the scale of a galaxy, the expansion of
- 13:19the universe is minuscule. Uh and the by
- 13:23far the dominant um the dominant process
- 13:26is gravity. Uh so um galaxies which yes
- 13:30are being carried uh gradually apart by
- 13:34the by the expansion of the universe
- 13:36when you put them close together their
- 13:38own gravity gives them a force that
- 13:40pulls them together that's much greater
- 13:43uh than the expansion. Um and we
- 13:46actually give that a name. We call this
- 13:48the peculiar velocities of galaxies
- 13:51because it's a velocity peculiar to an
- 13:52individual galaxy. And the usual way
- 13:55that we describe it and I think we've
- 13:57talked about this before on space nuts
- 13:59is um if you imagine a river flowing uh
- 14:04which represents the kind of expansion
- 14:06of the universe and then somebody in a
- 14:08boat is moving around on the river.
- 14:10They're being carried downstream by the
- 14:12river's movement but they've got their
- 14:14own movement provided by the boat on the
- 14:16water. Uh and it's a bit like that with
- 14:19galaxies. They're being carried along by
- 14:21the expansion of the universe. But a far
- 14:23bigger effect is the way gravity pulls
- 14:25them together. So that's what's pulling
- 14:28our galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy
- 14:30together. Uh it's the gravitational
- 14:32force between them. Uh and on the scale
- 14:35of the distance between uh Andromeda and
- 14:38our own galaxy, which is about two and a
- 14:39half million light years. Uh the
- 14:41expansion of the universe makes
- 14:43virtually no difference. Uh you only
- 14:45start really noticing it when you get to
- 14:47much bigger bigger scales. Yeah, but
- 14:49there will come a point in time where
- 14:52all these galaxy merges will finish.
- 14:55They'll be done and dusted and the
- 14:57universe will keep expanding and
- 14:59eventually there'll just be darkness.
- 15:02There'll be nothing.
- 15:04>> Yeah. If that's assuming dark energy,
- 15:07>> a big crunch. Oh, right.
- 15:08>> Yeah. I mean, dark energy, we're now
- 15:10just starting to see the first signs
- 15:12that maybe over the last few billion
- 15:14years it's decreased. uh and so the
- 15:17acceleration of the universe it's still
- 15:19accelerating the expansion is still
- 15:21getting faster but it's getting faster
- 15:24at a slower rate if I put it that way.
- 15:27So the acceleration itself looks as
- 15:29though it's declining and that's why
- 15:31some people are still talking about the
- 15:33big crunch or the gab gib again. Um it's
- 15:36uh it's because if it if the
- 15:38acceleration eventually goes away and
- 15:40becomes a deceleration then yeah you're
- 15:42going to get a big crunch.
- 15:44>> Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, could go
- 15:46either way at this stage. The way that
- 15:48they're talking, we we have witnessed um
- 15:52some galaxy merges, haven't we? Doesn't
- 15:54our own galaxy actually contain a couple
- 15:56of other galaxies that have been sucked
- 15:59into our void.
- 16:00>> Yeah. Two quite big ones actually. What
- 16:02the things we call the large and small
- 16:04melanic clouds. Uh they are satellite
- 16:08galaxies of our own and they're being
- 16:09stripped of their stars by uh our own
- 16:12galaxy. its gravitational pool uh and
- 16:15will eventually be part of the halo of
- 16:17our own galaxy. But we see we also see
- 16:21examples in deep space of big galaxies
- 16:24actually merging. The most famous is the
- 16:26the antenna galaxies, two galaxies which
- 16:29are merging and pulling off spiral arms
- 16:32off each other quite a fashion.
- 16:35>> Yeah, it all happens in slow motion
- 16:37though, doesn't it? and um and and and
- 16:40when people talk, you know, think about
- 16:41galaxy merger merges, they're thinking
- 16:43all this um drama and collisions and but
- 16:46it it generally doesn't turn out that
- 16:48way. Well, you're talking about
- 16:50processes that take millions of years
- 16:52and uh
- 16:54>> yeah, and um you know, it's and and in
- 16:56fact galaxies probably when they
- 16:59collide, you don't get stars actually
- 17:01colliding because there's so much space
- 17:02between the stars, but what you get is
- 17:04the effect of clouds of gas colliding
- 17:07and that spawns new star formation. So,
- 17:10uh you might get lots of hot young stars
- 17:12being born in a in a galaxy collision.
- 17:14>> All right, here's my horrible attempt at
- 17:17poetry. It's more of a dance than a
- 17:18glance. Boom.
- 17:20>> Oh, I like that.
- 17:21>> Yeah.
- 17:22>> Yeah, it is actually. That's exactly
- 17:24what it is. Yeah.
- 17:25>> There. There we go. All right. Hope that
- 17:27answered your question, Lena. Thanks for
- 17:29sending it in and um thanks for
- 17:31listening to Space Nuts, which is what
- 17:33you're doing right now with Andrew
- 17:34Dunley and Professor Fret Watson.
- 17:38>> We choose to go to the moon in this
- 17:41decade and do the other things, not
- 17:43because they are easy, but because they
- 17:45are hard. these nuts.
- 17:48>> And now our next question comes from
- 17:52Kevin and he said, "I've been listening
- 17:54with much learning and enjoyment to all
- 17:57the previous podcasts. I'm about halfway
- 17:59through them." So he's at around 200
- 18:01nearly 300, I imagine. So let's just
- 18:04wait for him to catch up.
- 18:08He says, "Uh, your your discussions of
- 18:10Mars and its lack of atmosphere made me
- 18:13wonder if perhaps what must have been an
- 18:16enormous eruption of Olympus Olympus
- 18:18Mons is what might have killed the
- 18:21planet or at least its atmosphere." That
- 18:23comes from Kevin. Uh so yeah, I I um I
- 18:28I'm very impressed by Olympus Mons
- 18:30because it is the biggest volcano in the
- 18:32solar system and uh it it's staggeringly
- 18:37huge. But uh could could a uh an Olympus
- 18:41Mons eruption have have stripped the
- 18:43atmosphere of Mars?
- 18:46>> Um probably not. Uh the I mean the the
- 18:51the eruptions of Olympus Mons would
- 18:53certainly have sent a lot of gas into
- 18:57the atmosphere. Um it it Olympus Mons
- 19:01has probably taken a long long time to
- 19:03grow. Uh it's you know it would have had
- 19:07uh eruptions kind of like some of the
- 19:09bigger volcanoes on Earth. Uh and they
- 19:12took a long long time. So it's not like
- 19:15one big explosion. Um, and that's why
- 19:18Olympus Mons is so high. It's because
- 19:20it's over a hot spot in Mars's mantle.
- 19:23Uh, that just keeps on pushing out
- 19:26material or did for a long period of
- 19:28time. Uh, and without the plate
- 19:30tectonics that carry this the surface
- 19:32crust over the hot spot and results in a
- 19:34chain of volcanoes like we see in
- 19:36Hawaii, uh, it all built this one big
- 19:39volcano. So, it's a process that took a
- 19:42long time and maybe it did play a role
- 19:45in the the changes in Mars's atmosphere.
- 19:49But we think the main reason why Mars
- 19:52lost its atmosphere is because it is a
- 19:55world that is too small to sustain plate
- 19:58tectonics. It doesn't have a magnetic
- 20:00field. So, the subatomic particles from
- 20:03the sun bombard the atmosphere
- 20:04continuously. And we think that's one of
- 20:06the main reasons why uh why it
- 20:09eventually lost lost its atmosphere. I
- 20:11mean it's not lost altogether. It's
- 20:12still got 6 of a percent of the earth's
- 20:15atmospheric pressure at the surface.
- 20:16That's enough for winds to blow uh and
- 20:19um you know to to sort of blow dust
- 20:21clouds onto solar panels of spacecraft
- 20:23and things of that sort. But it's
- 20:26certainly not an atmosphere that we
- 20:28would recognize as being similar to
- 20:30Earth's. So um I think I think it's a
- 20:32good question actually. Um, I think
- 20:34Olympus Mons and the neighboring
- 20:37volcanoes, there's there's more than one
- 20:39big volcano there. Olympus Mons is the
- 20:41biggest. They probably would have
- 20:43affected the atmosphere of Mars, but
- 20:45they're probably not the root cause
- 20:46while why the atmosphere drifted into
- 20:48space.
- 20:49>> Yeah, it's more likely it was because
- 20:53Mars just couldn't hold itself together,
- 20:55basically. Um, it it didn't have the uh
- 20:59the gravity. Um
- 21:01>> it's yeah it it it doesn't have the
- 21:04gravity uh to keep it hot enough to
- 21:08sustain plate tectonics or a magnetic
- 21:11dynamo basically which gives it a
- 21:13magnetic field.
- 21:14>> Yeah. But Olympus Mons is fascinating
- 21:17for a few reasons. I correct me if I'm
- 21:19wrong but I think right now as Mars is
- 21:22uh Olympus Mons summit actually peaks
- 21:26out of the atmosphere. Is that right?
- 21:28It's sticking up that high. Uh yeah, no
- 21:30it's certainly I mean the atmosphere is
- 21:33like Earth's atmosphere. It gradually
- 21:35disappears as you go higher. Uh but
- 21:38yeah, I mean effectively the summit is
- 21:40the pressure will be considerably lower
- 21:42there than it is down at the what you
- 21:44might call the surface of Mars.
- 21:46>> This is one honking big shield volcano
- 21:49though, isn't it? Like 21.287
- 21:52kilometers in height. Uh 13.2 2 milesi
- 21:56or 69,840
- 21:59ft.
- 22:01Uh, someone's going to climb that one
- 22:02day and um, stick a flag in it. Uh, it's
- 22:052 and a half times the elevation of
- 22:07Mount Everest. And and this is something
- 22:09about Mars that astounds me. It's a
- 22:11smaller planet, but all its features
- 22:14geographically just make ours look like
- 22:16tiddlywinks. Um, and it's its span is
- 22:20600 kilometers.
- 22:22>> 600 kilometers wide.
- 22:24>> Yep. That's that's extra. I just can't
- 22:26imagine it. I' I'd love to be able to
- 22:28stand there and have a look in my last
- 22:30five seconds of life because I didn't
- 22:32take my breathing apparatus. But um it
- 22:35it is it is an amazing world.
- 22:38>> It's got um cliffs as well around its
- 22:40base which are pretty spectacular. I
- 22:42think they're kilometers high as well.
- 22:45So, you know, it's Yes. Quite quite
- 22:48quite a an extraordinary world.
- 22:51>> Yeah. Well, the caldera itself is 50
- 22:54miles across
- 22:55>> and you compare that to Kilaweo which is
- 22:57like a couple of miles across. It's it's
- 23:01amazing. Um, no, I love that question
- 23:04and um, yeah, good thinking, but uh,
- 23:06probably not. And it it it sort of
- 23:07brings back the same argument on Earth
- 23:10that people say our global warming is
- 23:12caused by volcanoes and cows. It's got
- 23:14nothing to do with, you know, the
- 23:15billions of cars that we're driving
- 23:17around every day. But, uh, I think
- 23:19they've proven that's just not the case
- 23:23as far as I'm aware. Um, thanks for your
- 23:26question, Kevin. Lovely to hear from
- 23:28you. Our final question comes from Yuki.
- 23:32Hi, I'm Yuki. I am 5 years old and I
- 23:35live in Canra. Uh, we listen to your
- 23:38podcast nearly every day. My question
- 23:39is, why is hydrogen the only element
- 23:43that isn't made in stars? Why was
- 23:46hydrogen the only element around just
- 23:48after the big bang and not others?
- 23:52>> Yeah, that's a great question. Uh and uh
- 23:56congratulations to Yuki on being able to
- 23:59even think of a question like that at
- 24:01the age of five because I certainly
- 24:02wouldn't have been able.
- 24:03>> No, I wouldn't either. I was still
- 24:05trying to fix the wheel on my Tonka toy.
- 24:08>> Yes, that's right. think I was at that
- 24:11level. And the look the the bottom line
- 24:15is that hydrogen
- 24:17uh it was created in the aftermath of
- 24:20the big bang. I think sort of 3 minutes
- 24:22after the big bang, the temperature had
- 24:25cooled enough that you could start to
- 24:27form atoms.
- 24:29>> Um and the the atom that was was
- 24:34produced was the simplest. It's one
- 24:35proton. uh it's the simplest atomic
- 24:38nucleus. And so uh that was what
- 24:43basically condensed out of the uh of the
- 24:47of the aftermath of the big bang as as
- 24:50energy became matter. You got protons
- 24:54forming and hydrogen is protons. Uh in
- 24:58fact in that same period uh you also got
- 25:03the start of the process that does
- 25:05produce other elements in stars what we
- 25:08call nucleioynthesis where the nuclei of
- 25:12atoms the centers of the atoms stick
- 25:14together um and it did that process did
- 25:17start so I think I can't remember the
- 25:19percentage it's something like 20% I
- 25:21think of the aftermath of the big bang
- 25:23is helium which is the next most complex
- 25:27at atomic nucleus um and formed by
- 25:31hydrogen atoms coming together. But then
- 25:34uh the temperature dropped far enough
- 25:36that you didn't get the extension of
- 25:40that process into the formation of other
- 25:44atoms. Um, so it basically had to wait
- 25:49until stars started to form because of
- 25:53the gravitational pull of these clouds
- 25:55of hydrogen together. Uh, that raised
- 25:58the temperature again enough to start
- 26:01forming other elements. Um, and so that
- 26:05that's basically what it's all about.
- 26:07It's just the simplest of atoms is the
- 26:09hydrogen atom. That is why that was
- 26:11created. uh and and you know we nearly
- 26:14got more more uh elements being created
- 26:17in the big bang uh but only uh helium
- 26:21actually there's a bit of lithium and
- 26:23other stuff as well tiny amounts uh of
- 26:27of other nuclei but um it it it's true
- 26:31to say that the star formation star
- 26:34formation and the interiors of stars is
- 26:37what led to the huge array of elements
- 26:40that we see now all the elements of the
- 26:41periodic table.
- 26:43>> Thanks Ricky. That's a fantastic
- 26:44question.
- 26:45>> It is.
- 26:46>> When when you look at the the the list
- 26:47of the top 10 gases in the universe by
- 26:51order of concentration,
- 26:53hydrogen is far and away the most
- 26:55dominant with um 74 to 75% of what they
- 27:00describe as barionic mass.
- 27:02>> Helium at 24 to 25%. Which leaves almost
- 27:06no room for anything else. Oxygen is
- 27:08less than 1%, carbon less than half a
- 27:10percent, neon less than 0.1. Um, and
- 27:14then it just dwindles away. At number
- 27:1710, you got sulfur at 0.00 uh 044%
- 27:21concentration.
- 27:23Um,
- 27:24it it it's staggering numbers when you
- 27:27really
- 27:28>> Yeah. So,
- 27:30>> go down the list.
- 27:31>> The bottom line is that the the big bang
- 27:33hydrogen is still around. In fact, it it
- 27:36makes up quite a large percentage of the
- 27:39atoms in your body as well.
- 27:41>> Yeah. Yeah. I um Well, it's everywhere,
- 27:44isn't it? Um and
- 27:47>> that that's the bottom line. And and the
- 27:49the way the Big Bang happened and
- 27:51everything that went on afterwards, um
- 27:54you know, if one smidgy little thing
- 27:56didn't happen, we probably wouldn't be
- 27:58here.
- 27:58>> Yeah,
- 27:59>> that's right. H it's a scary thought but
- 28:02then again uh there's so much we don't
- 28:04know.
- 28:06>> People believe in believe in multiverses
- 28:08because um they say you know the
- 28:11conditions are exactly right for life to
- 28:14form in our universe and they might not
- 28:16have be.
- 28:17>> Yeah.
- 28:17>> So maybe there are lots of other
- 28:18universes where life didn't form.
- 28:22>> Well yeah that the the mathematics
- 28:24supports the theory, doesn't it?
- 28:26>> Yeah.
- 28:28>> Oh gosh. It's the brain hurting part of
- 28:31the show just happened. So anyway, um
- 28:33yeah,
- 28:34it it just keeps us thinking and it
- 28:36keeps us looking for answers and that's
- 28:38what it's all about. Yuki, great to hear
- 28:40from you and hope all is well in Canra.
- 28:43And a reminder, if you would like to
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- 29:18hear from you. And um we're just about
- 29:20done. Fred, thank you very much.
- 29:23>> Uh great pleasure, Andrew. always good
- 29:25and uh hopefully we'll chat again soon.
- 29:28>> I hope so. That'll be good. Professor
- 29:30Fred Watson, astronomer at large and
- 29:32thanks to Hugh in the studio who didn't
- 29:34have a hydrogen problem, but he did have
- 29:36a methane problem, but he'll be out of
- 29:38emergency surgery very, very soon,
- 29:40hopefully for next week's episode. And
- 29:41for me, Andrew Dunley, thanks for your
- 29:42company. Catch you on the next episode
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