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The Late Debate | 21 August · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Lately the general welcome the late to pay.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Good evening.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with freyer Leitch and Jamie Rodgers coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen seems to respond to
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Speaker 3: criticism with tantrums. Wait until you hear her go off
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Speaker 3: about a one nation billboard. Speaking of embarrassing politicians, We'll
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Speaker 3: show you the latest TikTok video from our labor MPs.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe we're paying their salaries.
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Speaker 3: And did you know the Trump administration has a merch
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Speaker 3: room set up in the White House so the president
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Speaker 3: can seek an issue rather assorted Trump memorabilia to guests.
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Speaker 1: Will show you that room a little later.
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Speaker 3: But first, congratulations to our Sky News colleague sharing markson
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Speaker 3: on a brilliant world exclusive with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin
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Speaker 3: Nette and Yahoo Benjaminett Yah, who spoke for the first
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Speaker 3: time to an Australian journalist since the October seven attacks,
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Speaker 3: and he did not hold back.
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Speaker 1: I want to just show you a couple of clips.
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Speaker 3: If you've not seen the of you, you can go
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Speaker 3: to the Sky News website and see it in full there.
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Speaker 3: But here's Benjamin Ettnyaho talking about how Anthony Albanesi's reputation
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Speaker 3: will be forever tarnished by his response or lack thereof,
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Speaker 3: to what's happened in Gaza.
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Speaker 1: On behalf of israel I.
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Speaker 4: Think his record is forever tarnished by the weakness that
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Speaker 4: he showed in the face of these Commas terrorist monsters.
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Speaker 4: When these people congratulate the Prime Minister of Australia, you
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Speaker 4: know something is wrong.
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Speaker 1: Now talk about that in a moment. But just one
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Speaker 1: more clip.
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Speaker 3: You hear people chanting free, free Palestine. As Shari was
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Speaker 3: conducting that interview, which was recorded at two am this morning.
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Speaker 3: At that very moment, the Israeli forces were preparing to
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Speaker 3: go into Gaza City to complete the mission of eradicating Hamas. Now,
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Speaker 3: as I said, people say free, free Palestine. The Israeli
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister made the point that they want to free Gaza.
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Speaker 5: My goal is not to occupy Gaza. It's to free Gaza,
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Speaker 5: freedom from Hamas journey, free Israel and others from Hamas terrorism,
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Speaker 5: give a Gaza and Israel a different future.
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Speaker 3: There's an incredible interview, Jamie. Just give me some of
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Speaker 3: your thoughts on watching that interview and your reflections.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it certainly was. James. Shari did an outstanding job.
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Speaker 7: And I think when you're watching Benjamin Netanyahu and he's
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Speaker 7: describing that Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi is showing weak leadership.
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Speaker 7: And when an organization like Hamas, and he does go
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Speaker 7: into detail in that interview of what Hamas do, especially
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Speaker 7: to what they did.
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Speaker 6: To the Jews.
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Speaker 1: He called Themober.
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Speaker 6: Seventh, he did, and he went into detail of what
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Speaker 6: they did.
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Speaker 7: And as he said, if you're being cheered on by
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Speaker 7: a group like that, you know that something is wrong.
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Speaker 7: And to think that Australia is now in a position
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Speaker 7: where we're one of the first nations to recognize Israel
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Speaker 7: back in the nineteen forties and as a liberal state
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Speaker 7: who was out there defending themselves. This is a Demoochrisy
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Speaker 7: that has always been an ally of ours. We have
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Speaker 7: completely turned our backs to them. And I think there's
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Speaker 7: a and I did like that Shari did ask Benjamin
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Speaker 7: what do we need to do in Australia to get
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Speaker 7: that relationship back, because we've always been close allies, We've
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Speaker 7: shared secrets in the past when it's come to intel
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Speaker 7: and for these lifelong partnerships, and you just think how
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Speaker 7: are we going to fix this? And Albo has been
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Speaker 7: weak and when he did refer to those pro Palestinian
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Speaker 7: protests and how he said that leaders around the world,
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Speaker 7: not just Albert, but leaders around the world should have
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Speaker 7: really stood up and stopped this. And he was right
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Speaker 7: because what we saw in Australia after October seven, with
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Speaker 7: that display on the Opera house stairs, had we had
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Speaker 7: strong leadership, not weak leadership like we've seen with Anthony Albanezi.
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Speaker 7: Had we had strong leadership where he stood up and
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Speaker 7: said this is unacceptable in Australia, stop it there, the
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Speaker 7: anti Semitism would not have risen to the level that
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Speaker 7: we have seen now. And it is absolutely disgraceful what's
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Speaker 7: going on in this country. And I do put it
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Speaker 7: down to the fact that this was not stopped when
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Speaker 7: it all first started to bubble along back in twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Nya who was particularly strong. I mean
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Speaker 3: he came out and said explicitly that Albanizi has appeased
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Speaker 3: militant Islamists.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he has.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you think about it, what has changed between
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Speaker 8: October seven and now?
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Speaker 6: Nothing.
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Speaker 8: On October seven, after the worst massacre of Jews since
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Speaker 8: the Holocaust. The Albanesi government said they supported Israel's rights
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Speaker 8: of self defense. What has changed between nat then and now,
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Speaker 8: her mass propaganda, her mass casualty figures, her mass's coordinated
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Speaker 8: global media strategy to turn the world against Israel.
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Speaker 2: That's the only thing that's changed.
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Speaker 8: And I think, you know, some people will say, well, Natanya,
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Speaker 8: who isn't doing himself any favors going into guard the city.
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Speaker 8: He should have restrained himself, he should have held back.
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Speaker 8: But how many more times does Israel have to cop
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Speaker 8: what they did on Octobers? How many more inter fighters,
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Speaker 8: how many more wars, how many more terror attacks? And
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Speaker 8: the people who say that a people who have never
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Speaker 8: had to deal with this firsthand. It is a luxury
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Speaker 8: that we get in Australia on a massive island, surrounded
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Speaker 8: by oceans, with no one that wants to blow us up.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven. So that's my take.
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Speaker 8: I think he was excellent, he was superb. And the
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Speaker 8: reality is Israel doesn't need to pander to the West.
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Speaker 8: As long as they have the US on their side,
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Speaker 8: that's enough. They can stand on their own two feet
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Speaker 8: and they are.
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Speaker 3: And that came across very clearly in the interview. As
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Speaker 3: I said, if you've not seen it, if you go
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Speaker 3: to skynews dot com dot au you can watch the
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Speaker 3: interview in full.
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Speaker 1: I encourage you to do so. It's a very interesting chat. Well.
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Speaker 3: Antidiscrimination laws are under scrutiny in New South Wales after
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Speaker 3: a New Zealand man was denied entry to a pub
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Speaker 3: at the weekend because of his face tattoo. Brian Gardner
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Speaker 3: insists his traditional Maori markings are sacred symbols of ancestry
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Speaker 3: and not drunken doodles from a back alley to tourist.
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Speaker 3: The pub, however, says its house rules are simple, no
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Speaker 3: face tattoos.
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Speaker 1: Now, you can ban someone for having a I don't.
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Speaker 3: Know, a tear drop or barbed wire or the phrase
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Speaker 3: no regrets tattooed on their face, but can you legally
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Speaker 3: ban someone for having cultural tattoos? Wouldn't that amount to
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Speaker 3: racial discrimination? Well, a spokesman for the New South Wales
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Speaker 3: Anti Discrimination Commission told the ABC it's a question courts
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Speaker 3: would need to determine. What happened to Brian Gardner at
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Speaker 3: the weekend is not new Three years ago papure in
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Speaker 3: Australian model Maoli Jones was declined entry to a Brisbane
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Speaker 3: hotel because of her traditional facial tattoos, and she too,
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Speaker 3: claimed it was grossly unfair.
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Speaker 1: So what do you think, Freyer.
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Speaker 3: Is it racial discrimination or does a pub have the
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Speaker 3: right to enforce it no face tattoo code, no matter
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Speaker 3: what the tats signify.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think generally we should err on the side
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Speaker 8: of giving businesses more freedom and more rights to exclude
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Speaker 8: or accept who they want. I would also say that
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Speaker 8: if you're in New Zealand or you're in Pupway and
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Speaker 8: you have those tattoos and that is of significance to
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Speaker 8: you in that country, then that could potentially amount to
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Speaker 8: racial discrimination. But if you've come to Australia, this is
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Speaker 8: not it's not required, if you're a Mari that you
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Speaker 8: necessarily have these tattoos. It is a choice. You do
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Speaker 8: know the risks he talked to the girl. The Papuin
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Speaker 8: girl knew the risks of how people might perceive her
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Speaker 8: if she did have facial tattoos.
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Speaker 2: And that's the reality.
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Speaker 8: You're in a country like Australia where typically we don't
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Speaker 8: see people walking around with face tattoos and then the
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Speaker 8: argument is, well, if you say face tattoos, which are
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Speaker 8: a choice, have to be tolerated, well what other sort
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Speaker 8: of cultural markings have to be tolerated. My dad grew
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Speaker 8: up in Africa where women didn't wear tops half the time.
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Speaker 2: And that was just completely normal.
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Speaker 8: But if I tried walking into a bar like that
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Speaker 8: and said I was embracing my African heritage, I think
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Speaker 8: I would get a few looks.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: The other thing, Jamie is we'd be asking bouncers to
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Speaker 3: then have to decipher what's cultural and what's just, you know,
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Speaker 3: a personal choice and frivolous. And I mean no offense
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Speaker 3: to bounces, but they're bounces because they're good at bouncing people,
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Speaker 3: not interpreting ancestral markings exactly right.
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Speaker 7: And when you think about it as well, they're often
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Speaker 7: speaking to people who have already had a few drinks.
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Speaker 7: They're out in the dark because it's out in the queue,
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Speaker 7: in the line, and so they're not going to be
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Speaker 7: standing there examining your face to say, no, that looks
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Speaker 7: like a tear drop, that's barbed wire.
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Speaker 6: Sorry, you can't come in. That's cultural. You can come in.
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Speaker 7: It's just easy to have that blanket no facial tattoos
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Speaker 7: and unfortunately cultural tattoos will fall under that. For the meantime,
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Speaker 7: you know, that woman that you just weren't mentioning before
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Speaker 7: in Brisbane is taking it further and she said that
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Speaker 7: these laws haven't been addressed in thirty years and it's
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Speaker 7: time to readdress it and have a look at it.
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Speaker 3: I've got to say, though, there's numbers of New Zealand
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Speaker 3: parliamentarians who have got facial tattoos, and so you've got
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Speaker 3: to wonder if a New Zealand parliamentarian went to a
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Speaker 3: Woolen Gong pub this weekend whether they would be denied entry.
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Speaker 3: There's one of the New Zealand parliamentarians. Facial tattoos band
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Speaker 3: at most Australian pubs.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think at some point you also have
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Speaker 8: to exercise some common sense. If it's clearly a cultural thing,
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Speaker 8: then maybe you can have howleency.
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Speaker 7: A bouncer will not know that that's a New Zealand
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Speaker 7: politician or anyone.
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Speaker 6: They literally just have to stick with that blanket story.
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Speaker 6: You've got a facial and you.
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Speaker 3: Can't have no facial tattoos unless you're a New Zealand.
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Speaker 6: Politics imagine how that would go down.
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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, exactly, and then you get into the
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Speaker 8: whole issue of well, anything could really be justified. My
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Speaker 8: prison tattoo is a cultural tattoo because I identify with
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Speaker 8: being a murderer, Like what is a cultural tattoo?
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Speaker 6: So it does get a bit complicated.
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Speaker 8: But something that is not complicated is the idiocy of
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Speaker 8: the Victorian labor government, and particularly just into Allen, she
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Speaker 8: never fails to impress us.
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Speaker 6: It seems like whenever she's asked.
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Speaker 8: About anything, she immediately goes on the attack and starts
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Speaker 8: disparaging anyone that comes in her way. This time, she
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Speaker 8: was asked about one nation billboards that had been put
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Speaker 8: up basically linking the rental crisis in Victoria to immigration,
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Speaker 8: which is a very fair point if you've done any economics,
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Speaker 8: supply and demand makes total sense.
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Speaker 2: But here is what she said when she was asked
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Speaker 2: about it in mir.
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Speaker 8: Durance, all the being from one nation billboards going up
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Speaker 8: to basically blame the rental crisis on pind.
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Speaker 9: The nine nineties all over again. Look, I haven't seen
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Speaker 9: those I haven't seen those billboards. But that sort of divisive, divisive,
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Speaker 9: false claim has no place, no place in Maldura, no
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Speaker 9: place in Melbourne, no place anywhere in this state. And
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Speaker 9: indeed we've moved, we put through the parliament laws against
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Speaker 9: hateful behavior, to make hateful behavior a crime, to strengthen
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Speaker 9: the powers of Victoria police, and no political party should
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Speaker 9: be engaging in this divisive, hateful behavior. Firstly, it's it's wrong.
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Speaker 6: It is wrong.
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Speaker 9: It is also divisive, and particularly as.
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Speaker 6: Someone who lives in.
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Speaker 9: Regional communities, regional communities deserve better than this rubbish from
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Speaker 9: that outfit One Nation.
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Speaker 8: I just struggle to take her seriously, to be honest,
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Speaker 8: like does she have anything in her vocabulary other than
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Speaker 8: divisive and hateful. It's like look in the marriage a center.
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Speaker 8: But what I did think was sinister about that press
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Speaker 8: conference was she said one Nation is being divisive. Then
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Speaker 8: she said the state now has hate laws to outlaw
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Speaker 8: hateful behavior. Then she said one nation is being divisive
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Speaker 8: and hateful. Clearly there is a link there, and that
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Speaker 8: is what we've been concerned about the whole time. Hate
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Speaker 8: speech laws are very easily used to shut down people
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Speaker 8: that have different opinions, because the left loves to call
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Speaker 8: anything they disagree with as hateful and divisive and here
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Speaker 8: you have it, she said the quiet part out loud.
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Speaker 1: Jane, Yeah, she absolutely did.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not suggesting she was even conscious of what
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Speaker 3: she said, but the fact that came out of her
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Speaker 3: mouth shows where her heart is to point out supply
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Speaker 3: and demand.
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Speaker 1: I mean, their laws you learn in year nine economics.
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Speaker 3: Apparently that's our hateful and divisive and that this is
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Speaker 3: typical of Jacinta Ellen, because just the other week when
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Speaker 3: people complained about the Respectful Relationships course in school.
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Speaker 1: She has a shtick now that she does.
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Speaker 3: She pulls an ugly face and then she starts saying
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Speaker 3: this has no place, it's divisive, it's hateful, we.
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Speaker 1: Won't stand for it.
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Speaker 3: And she just repeats that until journalists give up and
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Speaker 3: move on to the next question.
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Speaker 1: It's clearly a tactic.
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Speaker 3: Dan Andrews did it very very well. You're a former
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Speaker 3: sports reporter still loving sports. Essendon CEO Andrew Thorburn when
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Speaker 3: he was found to have gone to a church that
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Speaker 3: believed in sanctity of life and Dan Andrews was asked
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Speaker 3: about it and instead of addressing issue, it's disgusting, it's hateful,
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Speaker 3: it's divisive, we won't stand for it during COVID when
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Speaker 3: people question government laws, Well, you're all idiots, you're stupid.
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Speaker 3: We won't stand for it. It's a routine that labor
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Speaker 3: politicians in Victoria have been pulling for a long time now,
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Speaker 3: and Jacinta Allen has learned it perfectly.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I found it really concerning when I was watching
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Speaker 7: that press conference, because you just watch anything. Any time
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Speaker 7: that she is called out or doesn't agree with what
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Speaker 7: has she's been asked or what the topic might be,
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Speaker 7: she gets on this defense and as you just mentioned before,
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Speaker 7: the look on her face almost that disdain and that
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Speaker 7: disgust that someone would go out and put the truth.
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Speaker 7: I mean exactly what one nation have said. We're having
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Speaker 7: fifteen hundred a day come into the country from overseas.
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Speaker 7: Yes they're not all going to Victoria, but there is
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Speaker 7: definitely a crisis when it comes to rental properties and
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Speaker 7: people trying to buy a home. We are in a
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Speaker 7: real supply and demand issue. So one nation have every
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Speaker 7: right to be going out and putting out those billboards
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Speaker 7: because it's fact, it's truth what they're saying. But I
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Speaker 7: just can't stand watching how to into Alan behaves in
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Speaker 7: these press conferences and just talks down to people and
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Speaker 7: makes you almost feel guilty for questioning or trying to
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Speaker 7: have a different opinion to what she might do.
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Speaker 3: The other think is she she freely admitted she hadn't
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Speaker 3: seen the billboards, yeah, and then just launched into her yes.
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Speaker 3: So clearly it's it's right there, it's prepared, it's ready
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Speaker 3: to go in all situations, and there's no arguing facts,
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Speaker 3: there's no dealing with data. It's just launch into abuse
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Speaker 3: and then move on to the next time.
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Speaker 7: It's almost their way of just let's be abusive so
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Speaker 7: that you don't ask me any more follow up questions
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Speaker 7: and we can then move on from the fact that,
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Speaker 7: especially in Victoria, they are in all sorts, there are
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Speaker 7: some serious, serious issues going on in that stage that
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Speaker 7: aren't being addressed because anytime a journalist tries to ask
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Speaker 7: a question, that's the sort of response they're getting.
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Speaker 3: Well, the inference is that if you were able to,
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Speaker 3: if you were to ask a follow up question suggesting
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Speaker 3: that we'll hang on a second, maybe there is something here, well,
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Speaker 3: then you are divisive and hate for That's that's the
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Speaker 3: clear intimid tactic being used in a press confert.
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Speaker 8: Well, this is just a classic play by totalitarian regimes
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Speaker 8: to shut down scrutiny and democracy. And I know that
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Speaker 8: may sound dramatic, but in twenty seventeen, the Maduro regime
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Speaker 8: in Venezuela literally introduced a law called Laws against Hatred,
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Speaker 8: and the extended title the bill was Laws against Hatred
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Speaker 8: for Peace and Coexistence and it was literally framed as
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Speaker 8: want to get cohesive society, to stamp out hate and
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Speaker 8: bigotry in all forms.
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Speaker 6: And what was it used.
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Speaker 8: For was used to shut down political opponents, shut down
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Speaker 8: the media, shut down any scrutiny or democratic accountability. In Germany,
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Speaker 8: there are members of the German Parliament that are trying
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Speaker 8: to get the AfD banned as a political party on
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Speaker 8: similar grounds that they are hateful spreading hate messages.
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Speaker 6: This is a very very.
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Speaker 8: Dangerous road to go down, and to have an Australian
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Speaker 8: premiere of a state openly linking a political party to
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Speaker 8: potentially be banned on the grounds of hate speech laws,
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Speaker 8: that is I'm precedented, I would say.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, Jamie.
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Speaker 3: If you were at a dinner party sitting opposite to
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Speaker 3: Cinta Ellen, would you be open and honest about your views,
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Speaker 3: or would you think, you know what, for the sake
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Speaker 3: of the dinner, I might just hold back my thoughts
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Speaker 3: and just go along to get along.
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Speaker 7: You know, that's a really really good question, because this
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Speaker 7: literally came up yesterday. I would probably keep my comments
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Speaker 7: to myself just for the purpose of the dinner. You know,
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Speaker 7: if it's an intimate dinner with like six other people,
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Speaker 7: what's the point in having a hostile evening. But I
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Speaker 7: literally had a mum come up to me at the
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Speaker 7: school gate yesterday and say, oh my gosh, I just
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Speaker 7: need to talk to you because I know that we're
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Speaker 7: like minded, and because obviously I was the liberal candidate
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Speaker 7: for that area, so she knew who right on what
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Speaker 7: I stand for. And she said, I can't talk to
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Speaker 7: my friends, I can't have conversations with anyone because I
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Speaker 7: just get shot down for not agreeing with them. And
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Speaker 7: she said, I just have to now stay silent and
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Speaker 7: keep my opinions to myself.
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Speaker 3: The reason I ask is because there was a survey
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Speaker 3: done of about fifteen hundred university students. This study was
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Speaker 3: done by the University of Michigan, and they found in
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Speaker 3: this survey of fifteen hundred UNI students Eighty eight percent
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Speaker 3: of these students admitted to pretending to hold more progressive
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Speaker 3: views than they actually did, and the reason they were
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Speaker 3: pretending to hold progressive views like believing in gender fluidity
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Speaker 3: and so on and so forth was twofold one. They
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Speaker 3: felt socially they would be ostracized if they weren't progressive,
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Speaker 3: and they also felt academically they would be penalized if
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Speaker 3: lecturers realized what they really believed.
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Speaker 1: Now, Freyer, you are.
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Speaker 3: Very familiar with universities, being a couple of months younger
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Speaker 3: than myself. Tell me, are you surprised by these finding?
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Speaker 3: I mean, some of them were fascinating. Seventy eight percent
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Speaker 3: of them said they self censored regarding gender.
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Speaker 1: I've got some of the stats here.
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Speaker 3: Seventy seven percent said they self censored regarding politics, sixty
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Speaker 3: eight percent self censored regarding family values. Eighty percent said
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Speaker 3: they submitted work that they didn't actually believe, but they
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Speaker 3: knew they had to say certain things in order to
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Speaker 3: get a pass, and so they were literally writing things
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Speaker 3: that they absolutely disagreed with, but for the sake of
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Speaker 3: trying to get their degree.
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Speaker 1: Is this a surprise to you?
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Speaker 2: With no, No, this is not a surprise to me
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 8: There is a very real sense on our campuses in Australia,
18:20
Speaker 8: and clearly it's mirror in the US as well, that
18:23
Speaker 8: unless you conform to the woke DEI orthodoxy that ironically
18:28
Speaker 8: is not diverse, equitable or inclusive.
18:30
Speaker 6: Unless you agree with DEI.
18:32
Speaker 8: Unless you conform to that academically and also in your
18:36
Speaker 8: social circles, you'll be ostracized. I mean, I've found it
18:40
Speaker 8: as soon as I started speaking up politically, all of
18:42
Speaker 8: a sudden, the teachers, the professors, they know who you are.
18:47
Speaker 8: The other students, they know exactly what's going on. It
18:50
Speaker 8: makes your life incredibly hard. My favorite subject in school
18:54
Speaker 8: was philosophy, and I really wanted to do philosophy at UNI.
18:58
Speaker 6: But I knew that kinds of.
19:01
Speaker 8: Professors and lecturers I would have, and that it would
19:04
Speaker 8: be basically incompatible if I was a conservative. And so
19:07
Speaker 8: during my degree, I took one politics course which was
19:11
Speaker 8: intro to Politics, and I rocked up at my first tutorial.
19:15
Speaker 2: And I'm not kidding you. My tutor had a green mullet.
19:19
Speaker 8: She was a lesbian, and she ranted about the microaggressions
19:23
Speaker 8: her and her girlfriend received were walking holding.
19:26
Speaker 6: Hands, and that was the entire semester.
19:28
Speaker 8: So I made it my mission, of course, to argue
19:30
Speaker 8: with her every single class, and eventually what happened was
19:34
Speaker 8: closeted conservatives or right leaning students actually started coming up
19:39
Speaker 8: to me and going thank you for saying something, thank
19:42
Speaker 8: you for speaking out. So there is such a sense
19:45
Speaker 8: of fear on our campuses because if you stick your
19:49
Speaker 8: head above the parapet at all, you will get shot down.
19:53
Speaker 3: My question, Jamie, is what are we doing to the
19:55
Speaker 3: moral fabric of our society when we're teaching young people
19:59
Speaker 3: from an early age lie about what you believe, say
20:03
Speaker 3: things you don't agree with, just be completely pragmatic. When
20:07
Speaker 3: it comes to Europe, say one thing here, one thing here,
20:09
Speaker 3: at one thing here, depending on the circumstances that that
20:12
Speaker 3: can't be good for a person's soul, let alone for
20:15
Speaker 3: the culture generally.
20:17
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, children are having to pretend to be what
20:20
Speaker 7: they're not. And so when you're out at university or
20:23
Speaker 7: for some people, out in the workplace or wherever it
20:25
Speaker 7: might be, you socially conform and then when you're at home,
20:29
Speaker 7: in private or with people that are like minded, you
20:31
Speaker 7: can actually have those questions and have those proper debates.
20:34
Speaker 7: But right now in society, I think we are just
20:36
Speaker 7: creating this world, and especially these institutional leaders, where they're
20:40
Speaker 7: building this system that almost rewards that theatrical behavior, where
20:44
Speaker 7: they're rewarding those protests on campus versus actually allowing debate
20:49
Speaker 7: and allowing people to find themselves, And which is I think.
20:53
Speaker 6: I think it's really.
20:54
Speaker 7: Sad when I saw this article and saw how people
20:57
Speaker 7: are feeling, in particular that eighty percent of students submitted
20:59
Speaker 7: work that wasn't what they actually felt because of the
21:03
Speaker 7: way that their professor lant politically, and I just thought,
21:06
Speaker 7: what are we doing to all of our kids?
21:08
Speaker 6: But that's what's happening now with society.
21:09
Speaker 7: Back to that lady who couldn't have a conversation with
21:11
Speaker 7: her friends because she knew that she would be torn down.
21:14
Speaker 1: Because she was.
21:14
Speaker 3: The thing that strikes me about that is that it's
21:17
Speaker 3: like you gave her permission to be honest, and it
21:20
Speaker 3: just requires a couple of people to actually say what
21:22
Speaker 3: they really believe, and then all of a sudden people realize, Okay,
21:25
Speaker 3: I can actually be honest about my views.
21:27
Speaker 7: Well, we saw this a lot during the last election.
21:29
Speaker 7: The amount of people that came up to us and said,
21:32
Speaker 7: I actually am voting for you, but I can't tell anyone,
21:35
Speaker 7: And I can't put your posters anywhere because it'll get
21:37
Speaker 7: to face and I'll get attacked. So just know that
21:39
Speaker 7: we vote for you, but I can't tell anyone yes.
21:42
Speaker 6: And I just think it's really sad.
21:43
Speaker 8: I think the risk here, though, with young people is
21:46
Speaker 8: that the culture of fear and the toxic culture on
21:49
Speaker 8: campus means that a lot of people are going it's
21:52
Speaker 8: actually too hard to have an opinion. It's too hard
21:56
Speaker 8: to be involved in politics. So I'm just going to
21:58
Speaker 8: become apathetic. And that's in the too hard basket. And
22:01
Speaker 8: when you have a generation of people that would prefer
22:05
Speaker 8: not to care, what does that do to a democracy.
22:09
Speaker 3: Well, if you ever spoken to people and if you
22:12
Speaker 3: take a strong view, they almost accuse you.
22:14
Speaker 1: Of being morally wrong for.
22:17
Speaker 3: Having a strong view, would you say, no, I disagree
22:20
Speaker 3: with them, they're wrong.
22:21
Speaker 1: Well, how could you say that they're wrong? Well, of
22:23
Speaker 1: course I think they're wrong. That's my view.
22:25
Speaker 3: But it's almost like you're better off not having any
22:27
Speaker 3: view at all, And you're quite right, we'll end up
22:30
Speaker 3: with a very apathetic generation whose entire goal in life
22:34
Speaker 3: is to try to walk through without stepping on any
22:36
Speaker 3: land mines, and so they won't have a view about anything.
22:39
Speaker 3: One final step before we move on from this particular
22:41
Speaker 3: topic that the survey found thirty eight percent of university
22:45
Speaker 3: students describe themselves as morally confused, Which makes sense if
22:50
Speaker 3: they're just trying to say the right thing everywhere and
22:53
Speaker 3: not have an opinion, then that they end up being
22:55
Speaker 3: confused about the pretty basic things of life.
22:58
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. And look, people that are also highly confused
23:02
Speaker 8: are protesters in Washington, d C. Vice President JD. Vance
23:07
Speaker 8: visited National Guard troops at Union Station in Washington, DC,
23:11
Speaker 8: and he was greeted by a whole bunch of angry protesters.
23:16
Speaker 10: Have a look, how climbing thing.
23:34
Speaker 8: What I'm honestly concerned for their mental wellbeing? But who
23:42
Speaker 8: thought just enforcing the law and giving police extra resources
23:46
Speaker 8: on the ground to protect citizens against crime would be
23:50
Speaker 8: so controversial? But what I love is one of the
23:54
Speaker 8: top White House aids. Stephen Miller was speaking after the
23:58
Speaker 8: protests and called all these people out for basically being
24:01
Speaker 8: white boom at hippies who need to go take a nap.
24:05
Speaker 1: Most of the citizens who live in Washington, d C.
24:08
Speaker 1: Are black.
24:09
Speaker 3: This is not a city that has had any safety
24:13
Speaker 3: for its black citizens for generations.
24:17
Speaker 11: And President Trump is the one who is fixing that
24:19
Speaker 11: with the support in the Metropolitan Police Department, the support
24:22
Speaker 11: of the National Guard and our federal law enforcement officers.
24:25
Speaker 3: So we're going to ignore these stupid white hippies that
24:28
Speaker 3: all need to.
24:29
Speaker 10: Go home and take a nap because they're all over
24:31
Speaker 10: ninety years old.
24:32
Speaker 3: And we're going to get back to the business of
24:34
Speaker 3: protecting the American people and the citizens of Washington DC.
24:38
Speaker 8: You know, seeing those protests right there reminded me a
24:41
Speaker 8: lot of the Greens that I had to see when
24:44
Speaker 8: I was running for Balmain and the people you see
24:47
Speaker 8: at a lot of these pro Palestine protesters just angry,
24:51
Speaker 8: bitter with the world, old white hippies that peaked in
24:55
Speaker 8: the nineteen sixties, and now they are determined to oppose anything.
25:01
Speaker 6: That Trump puts a finger on.
25:03
Speaker 3: There weren't many of them either, by the way, but
25:05
Speaker 3: they made a lot of noise, as these protesters typically do.
25:08
Speaker 3: I love JD Vance's space. When Stephen Miller was describing
25:13
Speaker 3: these white, washed up hippies and the VP just has
25:16
Speaker 3: this smile on his face. I think Donald Trump has
25:19
Speaker 3: given conservative politicians in the US a lot of confidence
25:23
Speaker 3: to just be bold about what they believe. Don't be
25:25
Speaker 3: intimidated by anybody, don't be scared of saying what you
25:29
Speaker 3: actually think, even if it's a little controversial. You can
25:33
Speaker 3: be a little cheeky and a little fun.
25:35
Speaker 1: And clearly jd.
25:36
Speaker 3: Vance was amused by the description of them as a
25:38
Speaker 3: bunch of white hippies. It's interesting the change that Trump
25:42
Speaker 3: has brought to the Republican movement.
25:45
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think it's hilarious because jd.
25:47
Speaker 7: Vance is there saying it's kind of bizarre that we
25:49
Speaker 7: have a bunch of old people that are out protesting
25:53
Speaker 7: that we are trying to stop crime. It's just even
25:57
Speaker 7: when you say that out loud, that they are protesting
25:59
Speaker 7: because we're trying to stop crime.
26:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:02
Speaker 3: Well, he made those comments in an interview with Laura Ingram.
26:05
Speaker 3: Have you listened to what he said.
26:07
Speaker 11: They were actually defending the rights of illegal immigrants to
26:10
Speaker 11: come into our country, to vote in our elections, to
26:13
Speaker 11: collect social Security and medicaid that ought by right go
26:16
Speaker 11: to American citizens, to say nothing of housing. This is
26:19
Speaker 11: actually The biggest driver of housing costs in some of
26:22
Speaker 11: these big blue cities is that they've flooded the zone
26:24
Speaker 11: with illegal immigrants. As we've kicked illegal aliens out of
26:27
Speaker 11: our country, you actually see housing costs start to level off.
26:31
Speaker 11: So fundamentally, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is we
26:34
Speaker 11: care about American citizens. They actually don't like American citizens
26:38
Speaker 11: and want to replace them with low wage foreigners. It's
26:40
Speaker 11: a very stark difference, and I think the American people
26:43
Speaker 11: are going to continue to reward us because of it.
26:45
Speaker 3: It's funny, Jamie, when you think about the nineteen sixties, right,
26:48
Speaker 3: so people were protesting for civil rights. That are protesting
26:52
Speaker 3: against the Vietnam War, they are protesting for women's rights.
26:55
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five.
26:57
Speaker 3: They're protesting for men to be able to use women's bathrooms.
27:00
Speaker 3: They're protesting for police to be defunded, they're protesting for
27:04
Speaker 3: illegals to be able to flood into a country. That
27:07
Speaker 3: the change is just significant. It's almost like this exercising
27:10
Speaker 3: self harm these things, yeah.
27:11
Speaker 6: Isn't it. It's just crazy.
27:13
Speaker 7: You almost have to keep reminding yourself that, yeah, this
27:16
Speaker 7: actually is happening in society. At the moment where everyone
27:19
Speaker 7: has just gone so far in one way, and you
27:22
Speaker 7: said it perfectly, Freyer, and that everyone is just so
27:24
Speaker 7: angry these days and finding a reason to protest, and
27:28
Speaker 7: especially you know where they're out there with slogan saying
27:30
Speaker 7: free DC and from DC to Palestine and occupation as
27:34
Speaker 7: a crime, and you just think, oh, come on, you're
27:37
Speaker 7: trying to do some good stuff here, and yet they
27:39
Speaker 7: continue to be slammed. But there was one thing, guys
27:42
Speaker 7: that I love seeing on social media today doing the
27:45
Speaker 7: rounds was President Donald Trump. He has a merchandise room
27:50
Speaker 7: at the White House. This used to be a study
27:52
Speaker 7: which he has gone and juged up a little bit.
27:55
Speaker 7: And if you take a look at this, I think
27:56
Speaker 7: you'll become a Donald Trump fan after seeing this.
28:01
Speaker 3: They loved us for your wife.
28:03
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good s, thank you.
28:06
Speaker 3: You know, you're not allowed to run a bit so
28:10
Speaker 3: because everyone I'm twenty eight points higher than any everybody
28:14
Speaker 3: wants me.
28:15
Speaker 1: To run, but including anything evident. You know, it's funny.
28:18
Speaker 6: So the strategy creates you look for more year sec orfore.
28:23
Speaker 1: So it's so of cool.
28:24
Speaker 6: Uh, fellows, come on, grahab what you want?
28:27
Speaker 8: That's okay?
28:30
Speaker 7: I just love that where he almost gave me these
28:32
Speaker 7: vibes of almost, you know, a grandparel.
28:34
Speaker 6: So I'm going to someone's house doing, oh, hey, do
28:36
Speaker 6: you want this? Do you want that? What can I
28:38
Speaker 6: get you?
28:39
Speaker 7: And I just thought that was nice. You see just
28:41
Speaker 7: a little bit of a different side to him in
28:43
Speaker 7: his merchandise.
28:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent.
28:45
Speaker 8: And apparently this is quite common when world leaders go
28:48
Speaker 8: to the White House and visit Trump. One White House Sawce,
28:51
Speaker 8: speaking anonymously, said they often live with bags of stuff.
28:55
Speaker 8: Even Zelenski got a tour of the merchandise room, and
29:00
Speaker 8: it really shows just how far their relationship has come,
29:03
Speaker 8: which is nice. But it did get me thinking, I
29:05
Speaker 8: wonder if Albot did ever grow the balls to go
29:08
Speaker 8: to the White.
29:08
Speaker 6: House, what merch he would take?
29:11
Speaker 8: Would he get a four more years Godald Trump's hat?
29:14
Speaker 6: Or would he I would he just burst into flames?
29:17
Speaker 6: Even being in that room.
29:19
Speaker 3: I wonder I should speaking of that room, I should
29:21
Speaker 3: say it's a much better use for the room, because
29:23
Speaker 3: that was a room famous for Bill Clinton and Monica
29:26
Speaker 3: Lewinsky's tryst, So now being used for merch a much
29:30
Speaker 3: better use of that room. Speak of things that could
29:33
Speaker 3: be put to better use. I don't know, maybe some
29:35
Speaker 3: of our labor politicians. Look at this video that's been
29:39
Speaker 3: posted on social media. Clear O'Neill and Charlotte Walker, the
29:45
Speaker 3: youngest labor senator. This is the two of them celebrating
29:49
Speaker 3: the fact that well they're both in parliament together.
29:58
Speaker 10: Base people, it's.
30:05
Speaker 8: Still segal.
30:09
Speaker 3: Why didn't I run for parliament? It looks like so
30:11
Speaker 3: much fun both of you did. If you had made
30:14
Speaker 3: it into would you be producing videos like that?
30:17
Speaker 6: To be fair for them? It was a viral trend,
30:21
Speaker 6: you know.
30:21
Speaker 7: Nick Kurios did a fantastic one with Gordon Ramsey, but
30:24
Speaker 7: that was actually hilarious. I saw that one and I
30:27
Speaker 7: actually just cringed.
30:29
Speaker 6: They're trying to be cool and hip, and I just
30:31
Speaker 6: felt flat for me.
30:32
Speaker 8: See, I am never one to dis a TikTok trend.
30:36
Speaker 8: If you follow me on TikTok, you know, I might
30:39
Speaker 8: like to partake in them myself from time to time.
30:41
Speaker 8: They can be very fun, but you have to have
30:44
Speaker 8: some self awareness. Don't do it if it's cringe and embarrassing,
30:49
Speaker 8: and if the only thing you're bragging about is being
30:52
Speaker 8: young and being a female, two things you had no
30:56
Speaker 8: control over your age and your gender. That probably means
31:00
Speaker 8: you haven't done very much in life or contributed to.
31:03
Speaker 2: Society very much.
31:05
Speaker 8: So the idea that we are paying these senators what
31:07
Speaker 8: two hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year at least
31:12
Speaker 8: to sit there and make tiktoks about being young women.
31:17
Speaker 6: Seriously, it must.
31:19
Speaker 1: Work otherwise they wouldn't do it.
31:20
Speaker 3: And so many of our politicians now producing geezy videos.
31:24
Speaker 3: So we hate it, but there must be people out
31:26
Speaker 3: there and thinking, oh, that's so cool.
31:28
Speaker 6: No one likes younger.
31:30
Speaker 8: No, no, no, young people don't even like it, but
31:33
Speaker 8: they're in for six years.
31:34
Speaker 2: No one needs to like it.
31:35
Speaker 8: This is just an exercise in complete narcissism and gloating
31:40
Speaker 8: in their victory at our expense as taxpayers might be
31:44
Speaker 8: a bit harsh, but I'm sorry it's true. So let's
31:47
Speaker 8: move on to Wa now, where something really interesting is
31:51
Speaker 8: going on. Police have taken a proactive approach to policing.
31:56
Speaker 6: In an attempt to catch thieves.
31:58
Speaker 8: They left an e scooter unlow at a busy shopping area,
32:02
Speaker 8: and a twenty two year old man saw the unlocked
32:06
Speaker 8: scooter and decided to write off with it only to
32:10
Speaker 8: be caught by the police and charged with theft. Now
32:14
Speaker 8: human rights groups are claiming this is actually inducing disadvantaged
32:19
Speaker 8: people to commit crime. And how dare the police entrap
32:24
Speaker 8: these vulnerable youths by leaving a scooter on the side
32:29
Speaker 8: of the shopping center. That is such a silly argument,
32:33
Speaker 8: and even the magistrates seemed to believe so. The magistrate
32:37
Speaker 8: Rosary Meyers labeled the man's behavior as stupid. And I
32:42
Speaker 8: would say that too, I mean.
32:44
Speaker 3: The magistrate also said, having said that the guy was stupid,
32:47
Speaker 3: said that she had.
32:48
Speaker 1: Some quote unquote concerns.
32:50
Speaker 3: About the situation that he had been placed in by
32:54
Speaker 3: the police. The police placed in a situation where he
32:57
Speaker 3: walked past a scooter that wasn't his.
32:59
Speaker 8: How is an excuse, Oh, your honor, I didn't mean
33:02
Speaker 8: to steal the scooter. I just saw it there and
33:04
Speaker 8: it was unlocked, so I rode away with it. But
33:06
Speaker 8: I promise if it had been locked, I wouldn't have
33:08
Speaker 8: stolen it. Duh, you wouldn't have stolen it. But he's
33:10
Speaker 8: still stole it.
33:11
Speaker 3: And for human rights experts to say, you know what,
33:14
Speaker 3: this is taking advantage of poor people living below the
33:17
Speaker 3: poverty line, Well, he took the scooter, not to sell
33:19
Speaker 3: it to buy food. He took the scooter because he
33:21
Speaker 3: said in court, I didn't want to walk home, so
33:24
Speaker 3: I took the scooter. And police didn't do this just
33:27
Speaker 3: to trap somebody. There had been repeated complaints about scooters
33:30
Speaker 3: being stolen from that area, and so they decided to
33:34
Speaker 3: find out who's stealing scooters and it would make scooter.
33:38
Speaker 1: Thieves think twice. Now knowing that story, If you see
33:41
Speaker 1: a scooter, think does that belong to the police commissioner?
33:44
Speaker 7: I see, I saw that, and I thought, does this
33:46
Speaker 7: actually stop crime? Is this really going to stop that
33:50
Speaker 7: child stealing a scooter?
33:51
Speaker 6: Again? Probably not if you.
33:53
Speaker 3: Knew that there were scooters lying around that were being
33:55
Speaker 3: monitored by police, who would pouch.
33:57
Speaker 7: On your police have better things to a different shop,
34:00
Speaker 7: still monitoring unlocked scooters. It's given me that vibe of
34:04
Speaker 7: in the UK recently where those policewomen went undercovered, dressed
34:08
Speaker 7: up as joggers and then arrested wolf whistlers.
34:10
Speaker 3: No, but there's a difference between wolf whistling and stealing property.
34:13
Speaker 1: Stealing property because.
34:15
Speaker 6: They're still getting now. Yeah, but it's a kid that's
34:17
Speaker 6: gone past. It's got a scooter.
34:19
Speaker 7: I just think this is he's been set up here
34:21
Speaker 7: and I can't see.
34:22
Speaker 6: How that was going to stop. Well, because he saw
34:24
Speaker 6: a scooter city had eyes, Yeah, but it wasn't locked.
34:29
Speaker 6: He thought, well, you know what, someone's left this behind.
34:31
Speaker 6: I may as well go.
34:34
Speaker 1: Bi crime.
34:38
Speaker 6: Job. I just think this actually will not stop crime.
34:40
Speaker 7: It's not going to stop crime at all, because police
34:43
Speaker 7: have got better things to do than to sit there
34:44
Speaker 7: monitoring for when someone goes and takes a scooter that's
34:47
Speaker 7: not locked.
34:48
Speaker 6: They have bigger things.
34:49
Speaker 3: Police have had lots and complaints about scooters of being stolen,
34:53
Speaker 3: and then we complain that police aren't doing anything true and.
34:56
Speaker 1: Try and do something, and.
34:58
Speaker 7: The police did say that that you know, he wants
35:00
Speaker 7: to be able to say, look, this is what we're doing.
35:02
Speaker 7: We're leaving unlocked scooters around so that these naughty children
35:05
Speaker 7: can come and take them.
35:06
Speaker 1: He's twenty one years old.
35:08
Speaker 6: That's still true.
35:12
Speaker 3: If he had a mind to steal an eight hundred
35:15
Speaker 3: dollars scooter, so it's not nothing.
35:16
Speaker 1: It's an eight hundred dollar piece property.
35:18
Speaker 3: If he had a mind to steal that, if he
35:20
Speaker 3: hadn't have stolen that, he would probably steal something else,
35:23
Speaker 3: wouldn't he because clearly that was his, so that's one
35:26
Speaker 3: less thief.
35:26
Speaker 6: But I just think he would probably go and steal again.
35:30
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a failure. I just don't think
35:32
Speaker 6: that's necessarily going to actually reduce crime or theft.
35:35
Speaker 8: Another reason to lock him up even longer, just as
35:39
Speaker 8: for the scooter.
35:40
Speaker 3: Just quickly before we go to a break, the University
35:43
Speaker 3: of New South Wales has announced a brand new degree
35:46
Speaker 3: that people can enroll in US. Quite surprised to hear
35:49
Speaker 3: they're offering a degree in nuclear engineering. I will listen
35:54
Speaker 3: here as a professor explaining the need for this degree.
35:56
Speaker 12: Sorry for the need for this is very timely for
35:59
Speaker 12: Australia because of course we're trying to build a huge
36:01
Speaker 12: workforce in nuclear engineering, primarily to support because the uranium
36:06
Speaker 12: that we export currently produces around two thirds of our
36:11
Speaker 12: electricity supply in other people's nuclear power stations.
36:16
Speaker 1: There you go, great idea, Fray.
36:18
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why we haven't been offering these degrees already,
36:20
Speaker 3: but clearly if we're going to be a nation moving
36:23
Speaker 3: forward in energy and net zero nuclear is the way
36:27
Speaker 3: to go, we might need some people qualified well yeah.
36:29
Speaker 8: I mean, we have the biggest supply of uranium in
36:32
Speaker 8: the world. The world is moving towards nuclear. There is
36:34
Speaker 8: no way you can get to net zero without it.
36:37
Speaker 8: So all these lefties that are absolutely hell bent on
36:40
Speaker 8: achieving net zero, they should be the ones, the first
36:43
Speaker 8: ones supporting nuclear, but they're not.
36:45
Speaker 6: And that's an interesting question right there.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, we'll stick around.
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Speaker 3: Well, come back in just a moment and look at
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Speaker 3: what's making news in tomorrow's papers.
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Speaker 1: That's up next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 3: what's making headlines tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Freyer.
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Speaker 3: You've got the Australian newspaper. Some good stories there tomorrow.
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Speaker 6: Yes, great stories.
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Speaker 8: The headline that caught our eye is I wouldn't go
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Speaker 8: that far.
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Speaker 2: PC BOSS table's verdict.
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Speaker 8: Productivity Commission Chair Danielle Wood says the outcomes from the
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Speaker 8: Economic Reform Round Table are not enough to fully repair
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Speaker 8: Australia's sluggish productivity, with Jim Chalmers outlining no immediate policies
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Speaker 8: from the much hyped summit, while vowing to use the
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Speaker 8: discussions to inform future policy development. The Treasurer said the
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Speaker 8: tax system was imperfect for addressing intergenerational inequality, repairing the budget,
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Speaker 8: and attracting business investment. But the only outcome of the
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Speaker 8: roundtable on the issue was a promise to keep consulting
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Speaker 8: with participants when reform was considered in the future. Well, Wady,
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Speaker 8: you know what started as the productivity round table that
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Speaker 8: was warded down to the economic Roundtable, that has now
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Speaker 8: been warded down to we may consult you at some
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Speaker 8: point in the future when we decide to actually do anything.
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Speaker 2: Has all been a whole lot of nothing.
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Speaker 1: Well that's not what Jim Chalmers says for you.
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Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers says this has been a raging success, namely
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Speaker 3: for his profile, I would suggest, and that he's been
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Speaker 3: given ten general policy areas in which to consider.
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Speaker 1: So they've come away with.
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Speaker 3: Not recommendations so much as some considerations that will be
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Speaker 3: given considering.
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Speaker 7: So disappointing because it was a really good opportunity to
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Speaker 7: actually go and do some bold changes and do something
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Speaker 7: that really will help the economy in this country and
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Speaker 7: boost productivity and go and do something bold when it
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Speaker 7: comes to tax reform, or just do something big.
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Speaker 6: But it ends up just being a bit of I.
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Speaker 8: Mean, but this government has been elected on doing nothing
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Speaker 8: They've been elected on running scare campaigns against the Liberals,
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Speaker 8: So why would alban easy change that now and give
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Speaker 8: Jim Chalmers a huge win.
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Speaker 6: No way.
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Speaker 3: It reminds me of when Kevin Rudd one office and
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Speaker 3: he had his big talk fest and famously the photos
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Speaker 3: of Kevin Rudd sitting on the floor as people around,
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Speaker 3: Cate Blanchett and all these people came up with great
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Speaker 3: ideas for the country, none of which were ever enacted,
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Speaker 3: but it gave Kevin Rudd this persona and look, if
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Speaker 3: something or nothing comes out of this productivity round table,
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Speaker 3: what has happened is Jim Chalmer's profile has been raised
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Speaker 3: and I dare say that may be the most significant outcome.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and probably the only outcome he was banking on.
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Speaker 8: Also in the Australian Tomorrow, the headline is PMS Forever
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Speaker 8: tarnished Israel looks too Pacific Israel will move to strength
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Speaker 8: and times with its loyal Pacific Island supporters with a
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Speaker 8: four with a tour of states in Australia's immediate region
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Speaker 8: as Jewish state leader Benjamin Natnia, who declares Anthony Albanesi
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Speaker 8: will be forever tarnished by his recognition of a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 8: In an interview with Sky and his host Shari Martson,
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Speaker 8: the Israeli Prime Minister doubled down on his criticism of
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Speaker 8: Anthony Albanesi's support for a two state solution, declaring that
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Speaker 8: when Hamas welcome a decision, you know something is wrong.
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Speaker 8: I mean, that is the crux of the whole thing.
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Speaker 8: When Hamas is praising you, Israel is criticizing you. In
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Speaker 8: the US is criticizing you, you know you're on the
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Speaker 8: wrong side of history. But that point there about Israel
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Speaker 8: touring the Pacific, I love that because the Pacific Islands
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Speaker 8: are doing heavy lifting.
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Speaker 6: Here.
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Speaker 8: There's some of the only countries that are still standing
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Speaker 8: by Israel in the UN and it's because they're full
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Speaker 8: of a lot of really great Christians, so that informs
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Speaker 8: their view of Israel, which I think is wonderful.
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Speaker 3: Yep, it makes absolute sense, and I think the Israeli
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister will get a very good hearing in some
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Speaker 3: of those Pacific nations, certainly more of a hearing.
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Speaker 1: Than he's had here.
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Speaker 3: The Newcastle Herald's got bad news for Chris Bowen. Wind
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Speaker 3: Farm dead in the Water, reads the headline. Norwegian Energy giant.
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Speaker 3: Equina has a band the ten billion dollar Ovocastrian offshore
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Speaker 3: wind project, a cornerstone project of the Hunter's clean energy transition.
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Speaker 3: It means thousands of new jobs will not be created
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Speaker 3: in the short term and it leaves a major gap
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Speaker 3: in the state's clean energy generation capacity. Chris Bowen, the
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Speaker 3: article says, expressed his disappointment with this. No doubt he's
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Speaker 3: disappointed because it was just last night we were talking
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Speaker 3: about the fact that the Energy Regulator has said that
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Speaker 3: we can actually make the transition provided every project that's
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Speaker 3: on the books goes ahead. Well next day this project
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Speaker 3: is not going ahead. And these offshore wind farms not
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Speaker 3: at all economically if they were companies would do it.
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Speaker 3: Equino has abandoned quite a number of projects in Vietnam,
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Speaker 3: in Portugal and in Spain and now off the coast
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Speaker 3: of Newcastle. They just don't make financial sense.
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Speaker 7: Well, they're too expensive, especially here, and people don't want
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Speaker 7: them in Australia either. And it's all well and good
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Speaker 7: for some of the Tier members to be pushing for
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Speaker 7: things like the offshore wind farms, but as long as
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Speaker 7: it's not in your electric you're going to be making
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Speaker 7: it go somewhere else and that's all fine, but it's
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Speaker 7: too expensive. So this is a big hole now in
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Speaker 7: the green energy transition.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jamie, you've got the Herald's sun.
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Speaker 7: I do, and this is we are the capital of crimes.
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Speaker 7: The boss of one of Australia's largest sporting retailers has
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Speaker 7: slammed Victoria as the nation's crime and theft capital, calling
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Speaker 7: on police to crack down on the industrial scale theft.
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Speaker 7: Super Retail chief Anthony Heggerty has said out of control
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Speaker 7: crime targeting his rebel outlets has severely drained his company's profits.
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Speaker 7: Calling out Victoria as the worst offender, he says that
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Speaker 7: we think roughly Victoria equates to about forty percent of
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Speaker 7: the increase in this activity, so that is disproportionate. And
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Speaker 7: he also just said this is not children taking item
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Speaker 7: and putting it in.
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Speaker 6: Their school bags.
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Speaker 7: This is gangs of people taking thousands of dollars in
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Speaker 7: some cases tens of thousands of dollars in stock and
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Speaker 7: yet again Victoria in the headlines regarding their crime. I
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Speaker 7: ligitally was speaking to someone today about how they've had
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Speaker 7: to install CCTV and motion cameras all around their house
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Speaker 7: with big floodlights because of all of the break ins
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Speaker 7: that are happening in the area with the machetes.
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Speaker 3: I got to say, this is not just victim I mean,
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Speaker 3: Victoria's the hot spot, right. But one of my sons
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Speaker 3: works in a sportswear shop and he tells me they
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Speaker 3: have been instructed do not confront a shoplifter even if
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Speaker 3: you see them. My son will see people putting clothing
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Speaker 3: into a bag and they'll walk out of the store
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Speaker 3: and staff are told do not confront them.
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Speaker 1: Why you had to come and tell.
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Speaker 3: Management, who then ring security, who then take fifteen minutes
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Speaker 3: to get there to ask for a description, by which
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Speaker 3: time the perpetrators have well and truly gone.
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Speaker 1: There's all sorts of problem.
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Speaker 7: Bupermarkets have said similar sort of thing to their staff.
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Speaker 7: If you see people stealing food, just fro them.
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Speaker 6: Be what the heck?
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Speaker 8: We're starting to become like San Francisco around here.
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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing my son said is he said,
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Speaker 3: and even young kids who are stealing, they know it,
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Speaker 3: and so they know that they're not going to be confronted.
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Speaker 3: They know that, and so they are absolutely brazen, literally
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Speaker 3: just walking out with things wow, and knowing they can
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Speaker 3: get away with it.
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Speaker 2: That's such a terrible thing to teach kids.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 8: In the Tasmanian Mercury Tomorrow, the headline is city in
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Speaker 8: the firing line.
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Speaker 2: Action needed to curb bushfire disaster.
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Speaker 8: Hobart homes face the risk of becoming uninsurable because overgrown
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Speaker 8: bushland means the state's capital is not a safe city,
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Speaker 8: says Tasmania's pre eminent bushfire scientist, David Bowman. Professor Bowman
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Speaker 8: is calling for investment in high quality science to help
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Speaker 8: develop fuel reduction techniques. His appeal comes as the University
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Speaker 8: of Tasmania has unveiled new burnoff trials that aim to
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Speaker 8: protect homes while maintaining plant and wildlife diversity. I mean,
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Speaker 8: my first thought here is high quality science. Maybe just
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Speaker 8: do what the rest of the country does and.
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Speaker 3: Just backburn Yep, that'd suddenly become uninsurable.
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Speaker 1: What we used to do, it wasn't was insured. We backburned.
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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, greeni's are saying, no, we've
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Speaker 3: got to protect certain plant species and wildlife, and so
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Speaker 3: consequently we've got a major problem coming into summer. But
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Speaker 3: it's like we have this conversation every single summer in
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Speaker 3: this country where all of a sudden we realize huge
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Speaker 3: tracts of land have not been backburned. There's all this fuel,
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Speaker 3: and it's always the same reason. It's now being demonized,
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Speaker 3: and so people who live in these areas are suddenly
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Speaker 3: in periled. Before we go to the break, we've got
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Speaker 3: to talk about the Adelaide advertiser.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do this one, Jamie.
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Speaker 6: I actually like this story.
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Speaker 7: Now, obviously not the fact that Isaac Reikan has had
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Speaker 7: the four match suspension, but look, the advertisers had a
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Speaker 7: little bit of fun with this and say, if he
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Speaker 7: can't line up on ground final day, how about he
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Speaker 7: goes and sings instead. Now, when we saw this on
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Speaker 7: the front page, actually went and had a look on
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Speaker 7: social media and he does sing beautifully.
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Speaker 6: So if he can't.
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Speaker 7: Play because his team will aren't there or he's suspended, then.
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Speaker 1: That's his option.
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Speaker 4: Here you go.
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Speaker 6: You can be out there and sing with Snoop Dogg.
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Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break now when we
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Speaker 3: come back. I don't know if you've ever been on
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Speaker 3: a cruise. I've not been on one, and I am
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Speaker 3: not going on one. After watching the brawl on a cruise,
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Speaker 3: ship that will show you after the break and you'll
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Speaker 3: never believe what it was over it's coming up in
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Speaker 3: just a moment. People rave about cruises, but I've always
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Speaker 3: been put off by the thought of being trapped on
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Speaker 3: a boat with people that I might not like. And
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Speaker 3: I would have hated to have been trapped on this
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Speaker 3: carnival cruise as it came back into Miami where a
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Speaker 3: massive brawl broke out on the ship and you never
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Speaker 3: believe what it was about chicken tenders.
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Speaker 1: Look all the people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the cruise ship should have had more chicken and
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Speaker 3: everything would have been Oh boy, I can't mention anything worse.
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Speaker 1: Where do you go to escape that?
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Speaker 8: When you are nowhere? And I love in that video
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Speaker 8: you see the security guard get on his walkie talking
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Speaker 8: walk away.
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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not dealing with these people.
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Speaker 6: No way they can fight it out.
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Speaker 8: Well Over in Germany, a convicted neo Nazi and right
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Speaker 8: wing extremist is now serving his sentence in a female
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Speaker 8: prison after identifying as transgender. Now, this person once labeled
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Speaker 8: transgender people fascists and parasites on society, but he must
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Speaker 8: have discovered how unpleasant male prisons are and has decided
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Speaker 8: to exploit Germany's very flimsy self I d laws for
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Speaker 8: his own gain and serve.
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Speaker 6: Out the rest of his sentence in a female prison.
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Speaker 8: I mean, this is just a logical thing to do,
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Speaker 8: right when all you have to do to change a
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Speaker 8: gender is tick a box.
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Speaker 1: Come on, Frere, I think he really does believe he's
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Speaker 1: a woman. I'm taking him at his will.
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I think he want to be some
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Speaker 6: easier jail conditions.
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Speaker 1: No doubt.
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Speaker 3: Just a couple of years before that he was burning
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Speaker 3: rainbow flags and missing the LGBTQ community.
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Speaker 1: So exactly, I don't think he should be taken seriously.
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Speaker 7: No, well, this is a nice story to end this
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Speaker 7: evening on. A church in Sweden that was built in
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Speaker 7: the early nineteen hundreds.
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Speaker 6: Is about to be moved.
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Speaker 7: Only five kilometers away, but a very slow journey that's
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Speaker 7: going to take two days. It is currently going at
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Speaker 7: just under five k's per hour.
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Speaker 6: You can see it's crawling along there.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 7: This is to make way for an enormous sinkhole, but
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Speaker 7: it took eight years worth of planning, and this church
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Speaker 7: weighs six hundred and seventy.
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Speaker 6: Two thousand kilos. I mean, look at it. It's beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Thereckon ten thousand people are going to line the streets
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Speaker 3: of this switch and the key to watch it go
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Speaker 3: past in slow motion.
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Speaker 1: So there you go.
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Speaker 3: That's all we've got time for tonight. Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 3: It's stick around.
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Speaker 1: Coming up in just a moment, it's the Reader Penalty Show. Goodnight,