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Skywalker 101 Boxing Academy Double Header: Colton Loud & Carlos Trinidad-Snake · Caught on the Mike...

• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hello friends and welcome to a very special edition of Caught on the Mike.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: In the week before we conducted these interviews, these fine athletes lost a mentor, a coach, some could say a father figure to their program.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I am sure that throughout the course of this interview, these interviews, this weighed really heavily on their hearts.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Still they persevered.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: They told their stories.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a lot of inspiration behind their stories, which I think was largely due in part to that mentorship from that coach.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: This episode is dedicated to the memory of Skywalker 101 Boxing Academy coach Scott Morton.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: And in this episode, I have two fantastic interviews with two fantastic athletes and young men.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: The first half of this episode is with Colton Loud.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: You will hear his story.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's new to the Omaha, Nebraska area, and he's on a hot streak.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: The second half of this episode is with BKFC's Carlos Trinidad Snake.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: He's calling for a championship title shot after the first of the year.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're going to love this.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much to Coach Danny Molina for helping set this up.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: As always, listener and viewer discretion is advised.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: My new friend Colton Loud, who is training out of Skywalker 101 in Omaha, Nebraska.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: How the hell are you, man?
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good, man.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: How did it feel to get that win this way weekend?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Man, it felt great.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this one had a little more pressure on me than normal, but other than that, it felt good.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Silence all the haters and the doubters and everyone sleeping on me.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it felt amazing.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have any kind of history with your opponent at all whatsoever?
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, no.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I didn't know we were in like the same area.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm from Fort Worth and he's from Dallas.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like 40 minutes away from each other.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I honestly didn't know who he was until they sent me his name, which I mean he's a tough dude for sure.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not taking anything away from him or trying to be disrespectful, but just honestly, I didn't I didn't know who he was.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they sent me his name.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: I did my research on him, and yeah, we ended up fighting, and I won.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: So he was kind of a known submission specialist, wasn't he?
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's a boxer, more of a boxing style.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: He had a he he had a ground game as well, too.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's MMA, everyone's got ground game.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: But his his uh his bread and butter is boxing.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: So without any further ado, why don't you take a few moments, introduce yourself, and let's talk about your origin story, how you got into MMA, and eventually how you ended up in Omaha, Nebraska.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, my name is Colton Light.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm six and one as a pro fighter.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: All six of my wins are by finish.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: Only I've only been uh the first round once since a pro.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um I came to Omaha probably like six or seven minutes ago.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was training in uh Texas, and I just felt like I needed to do something to better my career, you know.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: I uh took an L that I really shouldn't have, you know.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: A lot uh there was a lot of stuff going into that fight camp, and ultimately, you know, I last it is what it is, but uh I do believe like that was kind of a fluke, you know, which is why I changed camps and uh did what I had to do to make myself better.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um I really wanted to knock this guy out, but everyone was sleeping on my ground game, so I had to go out there, show him a little bit of my striking, and then you know, get a finish on the ground.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to prove a point so people don't sleep on my ground game.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: How did you get into MMA uh as a professional sport for yourself?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like where did your interest in it start?
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I was when I was a kid, I was really aggressive, but I was small, man.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was too small to play football.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't like basketball at all, I didn't like soccer.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I I liked watching like all the old school martial arts movies and uh you know stuff like that.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I told my parents, I was like, I kind of want to try this, and so they put me in this like old school style like karate gym, which like if you know anything about old school karate, it's fighting.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: You pretty much went in there and fought.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it was a real new karate school.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I learned my basics there, and I was training those since the age of seven to I don't know, like 14 or so, 13, maybe uh probably 12.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I went from there, I was doing jujitsu at the same time too.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then I uh started wrestling in high school.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I could have wrestled in college, but I had an injury, and I ultimately just didn't pursue it after the injury.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and at the I was training MMA in high school too, at the same time wrestling, and I always wanted to like fight, bro.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was always watching like UFC, the ultimate fighter, all that.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like just I was really into it, and at the time I didn't really like believe in myself.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um I told myself I would do one fight at least just because I was training and I didn't waste my time.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: So like if you don't compete, you're kind of wasting your time.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so uh I competed.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: I won my first fight, which was crazy because as soon as the fight started, I had a super bad adrenaline dump and my arms felt like spaghetti noodles and I could barely move my leg.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so I had to like do what I could, and I I won, I finished that guy, and then I had another one, I won, finished that guy.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I just kept winning as an amateur.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um kept winning and winning, winning, and then I uh eventually went pro.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, kind of the same thing.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: My first my pro debut was at 35, and I knocked that guy out, and then the rest is kind of history.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: I just knocked another dude out, submitted one dude, and knocked another guy out, and then knocked another guy out, and then submitted this ass guy.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's just I'm pretty blessed to be able to do this.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: I believe I was, you know, gifted with the talent, you know, and yeah, I mean I'm just gonna try and do whatever I can to make it in this sport, do whatever it takes, and you know, I'm ready for it all.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: I love that, man.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: The thing that I find is a commonality, and I would say the one exception is football or rugby, is that a lot of guys that maybe couldn't make their way in what people would call conventional sports, really find a path to combat sports somehow, whether it be wrestling, jujitsu, like Muay Thai or something along those lines.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: So in your journeys, whether it be through Texas and through Omaha, what are some of the things that you've learned the most or some of the skill sets that you've learned by fighting other people and by training with different sets of people?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, I really the main thing I noticed is you have to be relentless and you have to believe in yourself.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you're not relentless or aggressive and you don't believe in yourself, you're gonna get hurt and you're gonna get hurt bad.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, every day you gotta practice on believing in yourself and being relentless.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't do that every day, then you know, one day you may wake up and be like, oh man, do I really suck?
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Or oh man, like, can I do this?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta constantly be able to remind yourself and just constantly train.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's kind of crazy how small of a world the MMA world is.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Is there somebody that you looked up to when you were younger that you've had the opportunity to brush shoulders with through your MMA journey?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one of them was Johnny Hendrix.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he was a Texas champion, and I watched him as a kid, and ultimately I started uh I did a wrestling camp he did in high school, and then I started training at a gym he trained at quite often, and you know, I trained with him a few times as a kid, and that was pretty cool.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, guys like Conor McGregor, I look up to have never met him, but you know, like Leo de Machito, Steven Thompson.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: There's this new guy, Mauricio Ruffi, he's pretty good.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: I like him.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I just this guys I feel like I can blend with their style, you know.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm friends with all the elevation guys at high altitude and eastern uh eastern training centers in Colorado.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I trained out there a few times too.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: It was pretty cool.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, out at high altitude?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: I went out there for about about a week.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Trained with uh Corey Sandhagen and you know those guys, trained with Elliot Marshall.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: He's pretty cool.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Elliot's an amazing guy.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've had him on the podcast, and uh he dude can talk, dude can motivate, dude can motivate.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I those are the type of people that I kind of uh I kind of like listening to and getting me jacked up to just to do regular day-to-day life stuff, you know?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: So what kind of inspired you to choose Omaha as a place where you would come to train?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Who inspired you and kind of how did that journey begin?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, my girlfriend started doing this medical program, and uh she was looking at one out here, and she wanted to come down here and uh check it out and try it, and so I came with her and I dropped in at the gym, uh Skywalker, and you know, ultimately I liked it there.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was pretty good work, uh it was really professional, and that's kind of what I was looking for.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was looking for like, you know, a head coach, uh actual head coach, uh someone who would guide my career on the right path, and you know, have my best interest at heart as well.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what is it about the guys and girls, guys at Skywalker that's a little bit different than anywhere else?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because from my personal observation, as you can see, I'm wearing the Dynasty t-shirt.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: When I go to local MMA events, you notice when the Skywalker guys are in the room.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, what is it that kind of defines them as a school and as a team?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, everyone's real cool with each other.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: We're all close and everyone pushes each other hard.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like every day we come to training, it's not no lollygagging and uh we train hard and we push each other hard.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone believes in each in each other, and you know, there's a lot of guys my size too, some some other bigger guys I work with as well.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's mainly just overall good partners around.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's got a solid base, whether they're, you know, a college wrestler or you know, a striker.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everyone, everyone's got something to them.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: So it's always good to work with all the bodies and all that.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: And how has your game improved since you've been training there?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh mainly I'm getting to train with people my size and other pros my size, you know, right?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um That's the main thing is just training with people with a little more experience or the same amount of experience as me, and that's key too.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little different fighting an amateur with four fights or you know, a pro with one fight.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh some of these guys have 10 plus pro fights, and you know, it's different training with guys like that and training with guys who aren't like that.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: Considering this win this last weekend, um, when are you ready to pick it up again?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or when when can you?
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm not really injured.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: My fingers are a little sore.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty much all five of my fingers on everyone's hands are really sore.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's like my finger knuckles, I don't know.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but uh other than that, I'm good.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we're probably thinking like January or February.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: We got some pretty big news, but I don't want to say anything yet.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: But so whenever we're done recording, will you share a hint at least?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'll tell you.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I like this.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: We got we got that, and uh yeah, man.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: So if you were to map out your career over the next five years, what are some of your goals?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: In the next five years, I just want to be able to have some money in my pocket.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm training.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I went into this fight with like a hundred dollars in my account, and I had to pay for all my travel, I had to pay for my coach's travel.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's expensive, man.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just looking forward to win.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like it is start the sport will start giving back to me.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I've been giving so much to the sport and to myself, and I feel like it's only right sooner than later that you know I get that opportunity and test myself.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the most tedious part of it is the uh financial aspect of it?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, especially at the regional scene.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is all I do.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm blessed to have someone that supports me and a family that believes in me.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's just, man, it's it's hard, but you know, I believe in myself and I'm gonna keep going until I can't.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I tell you what, taking a cursory pass of your social media, whether it be on Facebook or Instagram, you do have a lot of people in your corner supporting you.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: How has that influenced your journey so far?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh ultimately it just gives me more confidence in myself.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: All these people that want to help me, all these people that are cheering me on or sharing my stories, following me on Instagram.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Even the ones that are hating, you know, it all it all is motivation and confidence building to me because like they wouldn't say nothing if they didn't believe in me, you know.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: They wouldn't talk shit if I wouldn't have threat.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: So you've brought that up a couple of times.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: So was there some personal animosity that really kind of has been fueling you over the course of the last year where you're like, dude, I gotta shut these fucking haters up.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Was there something that kind of a sparked a fire moment that kind of lit that under you?
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, a little bit.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like a lot of these guys, they just overlook me, you know?
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they say I'm getting easy fights, or people are setting fights up for me, and it's nah, bro.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, nothing's easy about this.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, right.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: What other what other fly weight has a prospect that has six finishes, you know?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm six and one.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I do believe I lost, but I do believe it was kind of a fluke, you know.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I learned from it, you know, I accepted loss.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm not gonna sit here and say that it didn't make me better.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: It made me better for sure.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what I was gonna ask, man, because you don't learn anything from winning all the time.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: You learn from that loss and the lesson that you take home from that loss.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, looking back on that, because that wasn't that long ago, like what have been some of the things that you've learned from that loss that maybe you didn't know going into it?
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I learned that um I can't always listen to myself, bro, because sometimes like when fighting, it's like you ego's involved in fighting for sure.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Anyone who says there's not ego in fighting is a liar.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um so ultimately I kind of let my ego get to me in the last one.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: I really shouldn't have fought.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was banged up real bad.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: I had a concussion, my ankle was blown out, and I went into a fight with a concussion and a blown-out ankle, so that was pretty dumb on my part personally.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter if people were telling me to show up and fight and whatever.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was dumb on my part because I knew that I wasn't even 50% going in there, and I just learned from it, man.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, next time, you know, it if I can't train, then I'm not gonna do it.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, right.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's got a chance in fighting, man.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's there's a little bit of luck involved in anything can happen in fighting.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: So going into that, were you holding a championship for that promotion before that loss?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, before that loss I was.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: So when something like that happens, do you have to give up the belt or do you get your own replica of the belt?
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: I know everybody has that question.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: They uh you don't have to give a belt back.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: They make a new belt every time.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, see, there you go.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: At least I still got the two belts, but I don't know.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Fighting five rounds for free just doesn't sound good to me, so I'm cool for a three-rounder fight.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like I got paid extra to fight a championship fight than a regular fight.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: So let's talk a little bit about your life outside of the octagon.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: You said your girlfriend was kind of the influence to get you to move to Omaha.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming this is safe to talk about a little bit.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, what do you do to maintain balance in your life outside of fighting?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are some of your hobbies and interests?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, personal hobbies.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like playing video games.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: I've been playing a new Call of Duty a lot.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, you and my son, fuck.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Recovery.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'll just sit with like ice on my knee or something.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm playing the game or got my feet up playing the game, just resting.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I like to go on walks and I like to meditate.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's pretty much it, man.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a martial artist.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like, when I'm not training, I'm pretty much training.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's hard for me just to sit down and not think about fighting.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all I think about is fighting.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: That is such a common answer, and I'm not surprised by it whatsoever.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's hard to shut the mind off sometimes, isn't it?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Sean Madden and I, and I uh Sean uh is one of the instructors out at uh Easton in uh uh Colorado.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he and I he specializes in Mui Thai, and I asked him the same exact question.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I I never stop thinking about fighting.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, That's a weird question for me.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I it's just I there's no off button.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, like it's it's hard.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to explain it.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Once you get in there and fight a bunch of times, it's like there's nothing else I can compare to the feeling of fighting.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so when you're not fighting, you're thinking about, oh, my last fight, well, how'd that go, or how I could have done better, you know, my training, what I needed for training, what do I needed for recovery, or what kind of fight film I can watch, or you know?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have like I'm sleeping and I'm having dreams of fighting.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Growing up and spending pretty much your entire life in Texas and then moving to Omaha, Nebraska.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: What's something that you've really enjoyed about your brief time in Nebraska?
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's not so hot.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's hot in Texas, dude.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: I lived in Amarillo as a kid.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: I lived in Amarillo and then Albuquerque, New Mexico after that.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it it is hot.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's hot and flat.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um the gym's cool.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love training at the gym.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Other than that, there's really not much to do out here.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's quiet though.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nice and quiet.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy to stay on track.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's almost sometimes it's borderline dangerous because there's not a whole lot to do, but there is a whole lot to do.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's almost like you have to make your own entertainment.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of really cool man-made lakes and nature centers all over Omaha that uh, you know, I've I've lived in Lincoln the past 10 years.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of miss Omaha a little bit from time to time.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I didn't know there were otters out here when we were when we were here for like the first month.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: We were just walking around, we seen this park, we went up to this park, and I saw something swimming in the water.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, is that an otter?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it came out of the wire.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh, that's an otter.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: I had never seen an otter before in person.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: So uh are you like in in central Omaha, like west side?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in papillion.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Papillion?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna be at the fights this Friday night?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about it.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: You better just do the damn thing.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be sitting there ringside, uh, doing the pay-per-view commentary.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it can be.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Can y'all give me some ringside seats?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: I can't.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: I can't, but uh, it would be awesome if I could.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: You should hit your coach up.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: I bet he could get something worked out for you.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, man, taking all of this into account, this fantastic career that you're building for yourself.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you were given the opportunity to give somebody advice that wanted to get into the fight game, what would you say to them?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh just believe in yourself and be sure this is what you want to do.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's good advice.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Fighting, man.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Fighting is no joke.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it may look fun on TV, it may look fun in person, but when you're in there, it's a different world.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: And uh you gotta be confident in yourself and you gotta be able to perform.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: If like I said, if you're not confident and you don't perform, then you may get hurt.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: So my wrap-up question is kind of an off-the-wall one, but uh it's one I like everybody to spend some time thinking about and uh sharing.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, this platform is not strictly dedicated to MMA.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: I have musicians and people of all walks of life on my show, and I typically try and avoid all the socio-political bullshit that's going on in the world because I'd rather focus on the things that unite us as opposed to the things that divide us.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, with that said, what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today from your point of view?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just be nice.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Be nice to one another, you know.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: Have have uh I I I don't just be cool with everyone.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Don't uh don't be an asshole.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Be cool.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Don't think you're better than someone when you're not.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Truth, truth, truth.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, man, I uh I'm excited to see the things that come to fruition for you.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm glad to know you.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Nebraska.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: We are probably gonna run into each other a few times here in the new near future, and I I'm absolutely looking forward to it.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Colton Loud, the world is a much better place with you and it, my friend.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for doing the show.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, man.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: And now for part two of this two-part episode.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mike with Michael Clark.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know I love the fight game.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: I love it when I have somebody that's on a hot streak like none other.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And introducing today is my friend Carlos Trinidad Snake.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's fresh off of a win November 9th at BKFC in Montana.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: How the hell are you, man?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling great, man.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: Just soaking it all in, ready for the next thing, you know.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the uh the MMA press the week afterwards, there were a lot of stories floating around that you were calling for a title shot after the first of the year.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is that gonna happen?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I hope so, man.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel like I've definitely put the resume together to uh put my name in the half for a title shot, and uh hopefully uh I've done enough to where I can get my chance and take that belt.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean you like six undefeated fights back to back to back in BKFC.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's uh there's no reason they shouldn't like give you that shot, right?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I hope so, man.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I feel like um I feel like I've definitely taken one of the longer paths to the belt, one of the harder paths, you know.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: I felt like a lot of the guy, uh couple raked opponents in there, you know, and just a couple hard hitter killers in there as well.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, I managed to pull it off all the time.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I just I would love to test myself against the champion.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, man, no good win comes without that story of the journey.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: So let's talk a little bit about yours.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you take a few moments, introduce yourself, and let's talk about your origin story a little bit.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, my name is Carlos Trinidad Snake.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: I started out fighting uh MMA, and uh I started training when I was about 17.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um I did a little bit of boxing before that as a kid, probably about a couple years, and I didn't really do anything with it.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um I am from Sioux City, Iowa.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: I moved to uh Omaha, Nebraska, like I said, when I was 17.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when I was here I just didn't really know anybody and uh I didn't have a lot of things to do, and I thought joining an MMA gym was something fun and uh something that was exciting.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it kind of just took off.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it didn't take off, obviously, dude.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: My first fight, you know, uh I think I got put to sleep.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: I was choking conscious.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I was a big kid.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: I fought like I was like 230, you know, I fought like coming down, and uh I just realized like I was fat and I wasn't like a big body dude, you know?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so I was like, man, you know, I don't want to and uh I didn't want to go off on a loss like that, you know.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I just trained harder, man.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: I got back in the gym, got back to the grind, and I think I went on like a seven fight, six fight winning streak.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um had another loss, like a vicious loss.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: I got knocked out with like a flying knee.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it's just uh another one of those, you know, you go back to the drawing boards and figure out what you did wrong.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I had a lot of amateur fights, probably about uh 21, 20 amateur fights.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, when I I uh growing up, I didn't really do a lot of sports.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't really do a lot of wrestling.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I did a little boxing, and so I feel like I just kind of had to take that longer route just to develop and learn a little bit along the way.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: And uh towards the end of it, towards the end of my amateur career, I started knocking people out a little bit more consistently, and uh I kinda it kind of just clicked in my head, you know, something that I had that talent, I had the power, and uh it was something that I could do.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: So then when we went pro, it was uh I knew what my style was and I knew uh how to put it all together, and then it was just fine-tuning technique and uh just uh looking up opponents and seeing uh what they had to offer me and what I could do to capitalize on opportunities that they gave me.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: So were you a fight fan as a kid?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I was dude, you know.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: I was watching the UFC Facebook, dude.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I'm trying like Chuck Liddell T to Ortiz, like as a kid, I could remember those fights.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's how I knew.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm old school, man, you know.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh growing up, like I remember watching uh Anderson Silver break his leg in a Chris Wideman fight.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I remember watching that, like uh just a lot of a lot of stuff like that, man.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I I never really like was drawn to it, but I as I grew up and I was like, I feel like there's something I could do, you know, let me try it out.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I'm glad I did, man, because everything just you know it's paid off.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's something that I love doing.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: I teach a kids' class, I teach a beginner's class.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: I have uh probably like 40 students in in this class, man, and uh they all love me and uh I love putting on great performances for them and just showing them that uh hard work pays off.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, for sure, for sure.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's one thing that's consistent about the fighter spirit is kind of wanting to pay that those lessons you learn forward onto that next generation, isn't it?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, for sure, man.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: I come from uh a small reservation uh here in Nebraska, and uh I just uh I inspire a lot of them.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know, a lot of them believe in me and uh they like they want to see me win.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I told them all like I'm gonna bring them a world champion, I'm gonna bring them a bell.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I just love putting off uh good performances for them.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I just got they got a lot of belief in me, man.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: So you know I have to make sure I put that work in and I grind for them, and uh I love doing it, man.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: I love the whole journey.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: So just to kind of clarify, were you doing any kind of combat sports when you were in Sioux City before you moved to Omaha?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or did it start after you moved to Omaha?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, it started it started here in Omaha.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I said, I was just uh it's funny because I went to a Burger King and uh I saw a flyer for a show.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, they used to do these little shows down at the So-Col, they're called uh OFC, it's the Omaha Fight Club.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so I just I went to one show and it looked kind of funny to me.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I think I could do this.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: Those guys didn't look too tough, you know?
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then, like I said, so I was training and I was like, I was a big kid.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: I got this dude who was like 230, just like no fat, like 0.5% body fat.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: And dude choked me out in like a minute, dude.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: And like I said, it was just an eye-opener, man, and I was like, I don't suck, you know.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was just like, that dude was just big and I was just fat.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: So like uh the lowest I've ever got was like 145.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so wow, you know, I've definitely like uh when I was on, you know, I was young, I was probably like 1920, like I guess I started fighting, like I said, kind of young and uh just kept with it ever since.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: I've never taken a break.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um I've always been active every year, man, and it's just it's just fun.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Going back to this hot streak you're on right now, um, it sounds like you had enough losses or moments like the one where you got choked out in so-called that made you value these winning moments a lot more.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: How did it feel coming off of November 9th, that last fight?
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: And what was immediately going through your mind the minute the fought the fight ended?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it was uh to be honest, it was kind of like like a bittersweet feeling.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like um the guy, he didn't he wasn't really like a big name, you know.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: And in MMA, he had kind of like a nice name.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: A lot he he trained at bigger gems, a lot of fighters know him, and uh he had a nice winning streak in the PFL.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: But in the Baronovo, he really didn't do anything.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it was kind of like all risk, no reward for me, other than getting another notch on the win.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he wasn't he didn't do anything for my rankings.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: He wasn't uh a top opponent.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think so.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um but after I got that win, you know, I it did feel great.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: It just felt like I solidified myself uh as being uh a top contender and a problem to deal with here in the 165-pound division.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like a lot of people seem watch me and they want to see me slip.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, I'm just not gonna give them anything, man.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I just keep coming performing and uh I just take it one fan at a time, and uh nobody's gonna stop me.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: The BKFC bare knuckle has been picking up a lot of steam, especially the past, I would say, two years or so.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: For those that don't really understand the premise of the organization versus traditional MMA.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Could you kind of clarify that for listeners that might be unfamiliar with bare knuckle?
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: The difference for sure is obviously the damage, you know, like it's just a lot more uh a lot more vicious.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: The violence is just at an all-time high.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: Everything you cannot slip up one time.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: It only takes one shot in the bare knuckle.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Whether it's from a cut or you get hit in the eye and you know you can't see, your vision's messed up, or you're getting knocked out.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: There's definitely not a fun way to lose in the bare knuckle.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can lose and you're not trying hard enough by decision, or you could not get up to a 10 count and give up to another man, or you can get knocked out, you know.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's um it's a lot more tough.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: And MMA, there's not I'm not taking anything away from MMA like it's like it's easy or anything.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's definitely a harder sport.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: MMA is a game of chess.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um it just depends, you know.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's just so much more to look for in MMA.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but in the bare knuckle, it's fast action, high pace with the hands.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_02: You can clench in there, so it makes it a little bit different.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and it's definitely bloody every fight.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard to not get a bloody fight in the bare knuckle, but uh, I feel like that's also what the fans like to see, and you know, what draws a lot of people to it.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: And MMA, it just MMA, man, just has like the bigger names, and like I said, it's just a lot of people, a lot of uh talent from wrestling, boxing, uh, Muay Thai, just top contenders from all different uh combat sports, you know.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like that's what draws a lot of people to it as well.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Air Knuckle just uh gained a uh partial owner that's uh very well-known name.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: How do you think that's gonna change the business over the next five years?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I see that uh they just they're they're stirring up an announcement here in about three weeks.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: They said about a$25 million tournament, you know, and uh I feel like he definitely has some influence in that as well, you know.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think uh there was like he did a show, the show in Spain, and there was a part where they came up and he was like, Yeah, we're paying everybody double the money, you know, and this is that the owner's like, whoa, like yeah.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like he definitely takes the reins on some stuff, you know, makes some stuff happen.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I could see his point on it.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's just a fighter, he knows what it's like to literally come up from uh the you know the beginning of the card to being the end to being an owner, you know?
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like he definitely opens up the doors for fighters a lot more.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: For those that don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about Connor McGregor.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: So as a fan of the fight game, what do you think uh this means for his UFC contract?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think he's gonna even finish it out?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Or do you think he's gonna retire and then go all in on bare knuckle?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's my theory, by the way.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think for sure uh he'll finish one out in the UFC.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I felt I could see him doing that just for legacy and everything.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I definitely do think you'll see him on a low streak in the bare knuckle.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think he definitely he said himself he wants to test his hand in the bare knuckle.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_02: So, and it'd be interesting to find the opponents, you know, that he would match himself up with, but it's definitely going to be a wild ride for his career, see what he does next.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not to uh stir up rumor or conjecture or anything along those lines, but are there any names that you might have heard about behind the scenes making that transition about to come over to BKFC that have you a little bit excited?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: Not anybody really in my weight division that I would that I've heard about.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and uh I really do not pay attention to any anything else.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, good for you.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody else, like, you know, I always say I can't make anyone else's problems my problems.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: I just focus on me.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, I'm glad for everybody else and whatever they're doing, but like I said, I just focus on me, and that's just the best thing.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I haven't heard of anybody else coming.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's not or actually there's the is it the Brandon Ward from Bellator?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think they just signed him.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think they have him matched up already, but he's a he's a big name um that's entering my division, you know.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I definitely keep an eye on stuff like that, but uh not anybody that I'm worried about, no, for sure.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take a few moments and let's talk about your gym here in Omaha.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Skywalker 101 Boxing Academy.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Coach Danny, he's the one who reached out to me to make our our connection, which I think is absolutely awesome.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: I just had Colton Loud on this last week, and I asked him this question.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna ask you the same exact question.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: When I go to local events, I notice when the Skywalker guys are in the room.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel that that's very intentional.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: There is a different feeling, and and it's cool, it's exciting.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it it's something that just changes whenever you guys walk in the room.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: What is it about your school and your team that sets you apart from everybody else that that that I could experience that as somebody that's from the outside looking in?
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's definitely the intensity, you know, that we bring.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I think it's just the confidence, like I said, the intensity.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just uh we're a big team, and uh every show we go to, everybody shows up for everybody, man.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's the best feeling um when you got somebody there to support you.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: And like I said, it's like a mob, man.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're coming out there like tem deep, you know, like it's uh and especially here in Omaha, man, this is where the city's at and our gym.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we we definitely show up, and the fans love us here in the city.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we definitely got a big following, but then everybody from the gym is a killer in their own right, you know, whatever they do.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so everybody's just excited to see them every time they come out.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And they're and they're we're exciting fighters, man.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: We're finishers, you know, we don't go in there and mess around.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely try to hunt for the finish every time, and uh, we're just all excited for everybody to fight me.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you can feel that, and you can see it, and it is like it is like a gang, and it is awesome.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: It is awesome to watch.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: So uh someone else did say like they're like, Yeah, you guys all walk out like in the same gear, you know, you guys it's intense, like I like it.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: You guys got like a camaraderie or however you say that.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and I was like, Yeah, yeah, and I can definitely see that, you know, but and it's weird because like I've never thought about it from like the outside looking in, you know what I mean?
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: But well, right, right.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: And this is not taken away from anybody else, but it is like a statement, and I think it's something that people should pay attention to.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's like uh when you're going up against somebody who has a team like that, and you're just a guy with you and your coach, you know what I mean?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's definitely an intense feeling and it's uh psychological warfare, man.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's all part of the game, man, for sure.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just a few months back, one of the uh last events at Liberty First Credit Union Credit Union Arena, um Jamal happened to be in town, and that was kind of just one of those things where it's like, holy cow, man.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just watching watching him in the uh Skywalker gear go to the ring with uh with all the Skywalker guys.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: It was an amazing feeling it was amazing to watch.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it is.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's psychological warfare, and that's not taking anything away from any other gym or any other team.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's just something you guys do really well.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: He's just one of the big bros, man.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he comes when he comes here to Omaha, he comes to the gym.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Anthony Smith, another coach from the gym, uh, he brings over all the big guys, man.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: And when they come here to town, they all say the same thing like, hey, you guys have an intense training, you know, uh, I like working with you guys, and they come back for a couple camps, and uh, who knows?
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: You might see some of them there this weekend.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's kind of take things out of the arena of fighting for just a couple of moments.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what are some of your interests outside of fighting that kind of drive you?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: I kinda I feel like this question comes up a lot, you know.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: And uh just to be honest, man, it's I'm full-time fighting.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I love it.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I do.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: If I'm not if I'm not fighting, I'm helping one of my brothers get ready for a fight, you know, and we just we always stay active.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm constantly traveling, I feel like now, just to to train, do different camps uh for my brothers when they fight out of state.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um and when I'm not doing that, you know, I'm full-time dad.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: I got two kids, and uh I just love them.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: I spoil them, I do everything for them, you know.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you know, they talk about me a lot to their friends in their schools and like, yeah, you know, my dad's a fire or stuff like that.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, I just like I just really want to make them proud.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: And when they look back, they can have a cool story to tell for sure.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's great because I think legacy is important, right?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I spent 15 years in the music business and I got as close as you could get without making it big.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, when people would critique me, they would be like, Aren't you don't you feel like you're wasting your time?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: And my answer would be like, you know what, my kids are gonna go to school and they're gonna have stories that none of the other kids in their class are gonna have about their dad.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I am 110% proud of that, as you should be, sir.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm telling you, uh, so I as I grew up, you know, um, I I wasn't like the richest kid or anything like that.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't have uh the nicest clothes.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and um just where I'm at right now, uh, I'm able to provide it all for my kids, and like I said, I fight and I can spoil them and get them whatever I want, you know, whatever they want.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: And it's the best feeling in the world, man.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: So like I said, I do it for them, and uh there's no greater feeling for sure.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Let's push forward that legacy a little bit.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Where do you see yourself two years from now?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: I see myself being a bare knuckle champion.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: I see myself undefeated as well.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I see myself at least with two or three title defenses, and uh it's just kind of a weird road, man.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, because I love the bare knuckle.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: I but I I did start doing MMA.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people feel like I feel like they don't understand that I am a mixed martial artist and I don't do just bare knuckle.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: I it kind of looks like that just because in when I started my pro career, I kind of just took off right away in the bare knuckle, so I stayed on this side and I didn't really build up my MMA uh pro record.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I still am undefeated in pro MMA, and uh I definitely would like to get back over there and try my hand at that and uh just prove to people that I don't suck, and uh that I can do both.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna ask you that if there was any way you saw yourself diverting your path another direction, but it sounds like your plan, if I could clarify, your plan is to get that championship, defend that championship a couple of times, and then make that glorious return back to MMA and show them what's up.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to uh just make a statement, you know, here in the Bernal that I can hang, you know, with the big fighters, and uh that way when I transition over to MMA, I don't gotta take those local fights, those little smaller fights, man.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: I do feel like where I'm at right now, it would just be a huge step backwards.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's a strategy, man.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of want to set myself up uh just to have a little bit bigger fights when I do make that transition back over.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I love that.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: So if you don't mind me asking, how old are your kids?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my son, he is 10, and then my daughter, she is six.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: Are either one of them dabbling in any kind of martial arts?
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_02: So uh they both do jujitsu.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: My son, he's done one tournament so far.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: He's got uh like three finishes, three subs, and uh he lost in overtime because uh it was his first tournament and he didn't understand the rules, so it was like the the I think it's the EBI overtime where it's like the fastest to escape.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: And so he he uh let go right away because he wanted to like keep wrestling and uh the time was over.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: He ended up losing.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about it.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he subbed the kid, it was like a round robin tournament.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: He subbed him, and uh so this is like their second time going, and then like I said, he just lost in overtime, but he definitely understands, he likes doing it.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so I'm real glad that he's uh that he's taken up on it, you know, and uh it's something that we can bond with for sure.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: With your kids doing it and knowing the discipline involved with having your children involved in a martial art that maybe you didn't learn until later on in life, how do you see it impacting their sense of confidence?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know so much about confidence.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: I just think more like discipline.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel like growing up, uh, it's good to have like a coach, you know, a discipline, someone uh a role model mentor, something to look up to like that.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, they got a bunch of coaches that train the kids' class.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: I teach the kids' class sometimes.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I do feel like when it is me, they're a little more nonchalant, you know, they got dad, you know, they're goofing.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: When they got other coaches there, they're boom, you know, on attendance, ready for go.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like just having that discipline of a coach and stuff like that is something that uh they'll carry on with and uh and something to remember, you know.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like a lot of kids that grow up and uh they just forget what they learn.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: But uh like my son, I feel like he didn't train for a little bit, he went back and everything was just like memory, muscle memory, you know, just right back to it.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like uh I'm glad they have a skill that they can use now and then later, you know.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's nothing like watching that next generation take some of your skill sets, is there?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just it's funny because it's like, you know, I'm teaching them and I know I'm confident in it, you know, but sometimes like when I go with these with like regular rounds with dudes my size, and I just gotta remind myself, like the moves I teach my kids are the moves that like I would use, you know what I mean?
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: So and and uh you've gotta have confidence, you know what I mean, to teach something.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I when uh I go against regular sparring rounds.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: If it's something that I showed my kids, I'll try to use it in regular rounds just to show them that like, hey, the move works, you know, right?
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta do it.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I love that.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: Brother, you know, in this brief conversation conversation with you, I feel like I've learned a lot about where your focus is.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I am very, very impressed by your uh personal sense of strategy and what your goals are.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I have nothing but faith that you are going to attain everything you set out for because you are a level-headed guy.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is one of my most favorite things about talking with fighters.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: I talk with all sorts of people on this show, I've musicians, whatever.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: And uh you you have exemplified the best of what I enjoy about good fighters.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you very much, man.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: This has been a lot of fun.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just uh a humble guy, man.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh my uh my grandpa, my shoka, I was uh baptized with his name.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's called Naji Naj, and it means next to be king, next to be chief.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so when he's uh he was a real holy man and he lived uh like that.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just try to like be like him.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: He passed away in 2020, and so uh ever since then I just tried to live my life a little more calmly, you know, and uh humbly.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it's just it's all paid off, man.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel like uh it's just some of the lessons that he's taught me, you know, I was able to teach my kids and just like I said, live life like that.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just glad it's paid off 100%.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: You will understand exactly what I said once you think about this and this episode drops and you watch it back, and you're like, man, I did sound pretty damn good.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I tell you what, he he, you know, I he would be be very proud of you right now, just so you're aware, my friend.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, my wrap-up question, pretty easy one, pretty hard one, but it's totally off the cuff.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today through your eyes?
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: Don't stress and remain calm and just always think about the solution.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: There's always a solution to something.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I seen this this quote, I forgot uh who it was by, but it's just something that I think about a lot.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: And they say if there's if there isn't a solution for something, then why stress?
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: Because you can't do anything about it.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: But if there is a solution for it, then why stress?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because you can do something about it.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and it sounds kind of funny because a lot of people say like I'm a nonchalant person, you know, and that uh like if I have a a time to show up somewhere, I'm usually always late, you know, and stuff like that.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like I kind of just go with the flow, you know, like I'm I'm just a real nonchalant person, I guess.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_00: My friend, tell my audience where they can find you online.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_02: You can find me uh on Instagram at TrinidadSnake.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh make sure you guys give me a follow.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you find me on Facebook, Carlos TrinidadSnake, find me on YouTube, BKFC app Carlos TrinidadSnake.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh everything is going to be with Trinidad Snake, and that's a hyphen.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_02: And just for the record, it is my real name.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: It is not a gimmick, it's not a nickname.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh on my ID, my birth certificate, 100%.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: I love that, man.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Carlos, thank you so much for doing the show, man.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: The world's a much better place with you and it, my friend.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: No problem.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: I want to thank my guests, Colton Loud and Carlos Trinidad Space, for doing the show today.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'd like to give a special shout out to Coach Danny Molina from Skywalker 101 Boxing Academy.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: Follow all of them on social media and make sure you're following me at Cot on the Mic on all social media platforms.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: Check out my website, www.partonhemic.com.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.