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Are our Asian allies stepping up to meet the threat from China? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: with the United States Senator Tom Cotton, Republican from Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Cotton, how'd you get up to the office to fund?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't voter rama going on?
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  Speaker 2: We are in the middle of a lot of votes, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: and the legislature in a past is a response to
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  Speaker 2: democrats unprecedented obstruction of funding for the border patrol, immigrations
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  Speaker 2: and custom enforcement. It is the Democrats acting out their
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  Speaker 2: worst instincts to defund the police, and even more than that,
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  Speaker 2: h they are siding with far left extremists in their party.
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  Speaker 2: We offered them a deal months ago that would have
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  Speaker 2: funded the border patrol and Ice like the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the government through the end of this fiscal year September thirtieth.
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  Speaker 2: They demanded completely unreasonable conditions, you like, for instance, banning
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  Speaker 2: ICE officers from wearing masks. Now, remember this is the
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  Speaker 2: crew that insisted that kindergarteners were massed to school just
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  Speaker 2: five years ago, and now they want to ban ICE
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  Speaker 2: officers from wearing masks so they can dox them online
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  Speaker 2: and then left wing street militias can terrorize their wives
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  Speaker 2: and their kids at their homes. Obviously, we would never
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  Speaker 2: agree to something like that. We're going to support our
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement. And because of the Democrats instructionism, we're now
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  Speaker 2: not just funding ICE and Border Patrol for nine months,
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  Speaker 2: we're funding them for the next two and a half years.
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  Speaker 2: So we never go down this path again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, good for you. I hope the reconciliation process works out.
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  Speaker 1: Let me move to some other things. You're on Fox
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  Speaker 1: America's newsroom this morning right after I was on. I
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  Speaker 1: want to zero in on the New Jersey congressman who's
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  Speaker 1: an al Qaeda affiliate. The man who's supported al Qaeda,
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  Speaker 1: supported the blind Shake. He's asked about him by Bill Hemmer,
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  Speaker 1: I said, this cut number two. We are twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years away from nine to eleven. Bill, good morning to
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  Speaker 1: you and to Jackie, and so short memory is part
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  Speaker 1: of the problem. But this result, while shocking, is not surprising.
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  Speaker 1: The top line which everyone should understand is that the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party is deeply infected with anti Semitism, not anti
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  Speaker 1: Israel Senate, not anti Zionism, anti Semitism. And whether it's
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan with Congresswoman taleb or else i ed their
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  Speaker 1: Senate candidate, whether it's in Minnesota with Ilhan Omar, and
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  Speaker 1: whether it's in Maine with grand Points Batner with his
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  Speaker 1: Nazi tattoo. Anti Semitism is spreading throughout the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like a sepsis. It's either going to kill
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party or it's going to kill the United States.
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  Speaker 1: And this is just the latest symptom. So this guy
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  Speaker 1: will have d al Qaeda after his name if he wins,
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  Speaker 1: and he's probably going to win. It's a deep blue district.
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  Speaker 1: But not only did Andy McCarthy get the goods on
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  Speaker 1: him back in the blind Shake trial, he went to
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  Speaker 1: Bosnia for al Qaeda, for an al Qaeda front. He
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  Speaker 1: is a radical Giadis. And people should believe Andy in
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  Speaker 1: his book Willful Blindness, or they can go read a
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  Speaker 1: Man in the Left, Lawrence Write's book The Looming Tower.
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  Speaker 1: This is not an aberration. This isn't a one of
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  Speaker 1: This is the Monthlim brotherhood spreading throughout the Democratic Party,
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  Speaker 1: and its poison is anti simomk you so, Senator Cotton,
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  Speaker 1: am I overstating the problem that Democrats have with anti Semitism?
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  Speaker 1: Knows you?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. If anything, you might be understating it.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned a few members of Congress, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: French candidates, degenerate extremist nuts like Graham Plattner in Maine.
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  Speaker 2: But remember that these people also just elected an anti
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  Speaker 2: Semite to be mayor of the biggest city in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, Mamdati of New York City. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a bug for the Democrats, this is a feature. They're
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  Speaker 2: not being elected in spite of their anti Semitism. They're
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  Speaker 2: being elected because of their anti Semitism. And this guy
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  Speaker 2: in New Jersey just kind of takes it to the
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  Speaker 2: logical conclusion. You might call many of these Democrats para sympathizers.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what we call him other than at
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  Speaker 2: least a material supporter for terrorism. I mean, the guy
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  Speaker 2: was in league with the Blind Shape behind the First
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  Speaker 2: World Trade Center tower bombing in nineteen ninety three. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned Bosnia, I think he also has gone to support
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  Speaker 2: Hamas in Gaza over the last three years as well.
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  Speaker 2: Again in a crowded field where it's hard to stand
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  Speaker 2: out with ten or twelve candidates and the primary election
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  Speaker 2: is tantamount to the general election. Q he won because
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  Speaker 2: of his raging anti Semitism and his material support for
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  Speaker 2: Islamic radical terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that, and I think the Democratic
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  Speaker 1: Party has a problem, and every American Jewish voter and
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  Speaker 1: every voter who cares about Israel ought to realize their
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  Speaker 1: party has been captured. Now, Senator, about Graham Plattner, he
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  Speaker 1: was on the hill yesterday assuring Democrats nothing more to
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  Speaker 1: see here. There are buzz there are rumors, there's a
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  Speaker 1: big one coming, another scandal. Chuck Schumer said five times,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't engage with the specifics of Graham Platner. Is
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  Speaker 1: there any way you see him joining the Democratic Caucus?
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  Speaker 1: Would they let him in?
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  Speaker 2: Well know, because Chuck Schumer is wrong. Susan Collins is
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  Speaker 2: going to beat Chuck Schumer like a drum. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be Graham Plattiner. Both of that matter any other
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  Speaker 2: Democrat that follows on from Graham Plattner after Schumer pulls
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  Speaker 2: what they did with Eric Swolwell out in California. Most
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  Speaker 2: of this newest material, Hugh, is coming from Democratic operatives.
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  Speaker 2: They know that Grand Platner is a degenerate nut and
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  Speaker 2: that he's toxic for their party, and he has no
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  Speaker 2: chance to beat Susan Collins. So there's a reason why
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  Speaker 2: the New York Times is running expose a's about Democrats
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  Speaker 2: a Grand Platineer. They don't do that normally, they do
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  Speaker 2: that about Republicans and conservatives, but a Democratic operative was
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  Speaker 2: sent to New York Times to expose these latest scandals.
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  Speaker 2: And as you say, we've all heard rumors about the
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  Speaker 2: next shoe to drop, and supposedly Liz Warren and Bernie
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  Speaker 2: Sanders requizzing him about that in private, even as they
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  Speaker 2: were defending him in public. But it really doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Graham Platner or any other replacement Democrat. If
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  Speaker 2: they go to Bob Torricelli route to nine, Susan Collins
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  Speaker 2: is going to be elected because she's a great senator
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  Speaker 2: for Mainners.
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  Speaker 1: A great Now can we turn to it ron I
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  Speaker 1: am increasingly impatient that they're shooting at and may kill
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  Speaker 1: American troops and the blockade is very effective provided and
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  Speaker 1: not trying to kill it. Do you think the President
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  Speaker 1: is a respond with appropriate force today?
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  Speaker 2: Well, as he said, Hugh, what we've done so far
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  Speaker 2: and Marco Rubio testified to this yesterday as well, is
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  Speaker 2: defensive actions. Now it's not merely defensive. We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to let our troops sit in a defensive crowd. So
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  Speaker 2: if they hit us, or they hit our friends like
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  Speaker 2: they didn't kuwait, we're going to hit back twice as hard.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not like what we were doing in March.
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  Speaker 2: The President has said that he's willing to keep the
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  Speaker 2: blockade in place and keep the economic pressure on a run,
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  Speaker 2: tying it thought on their sides. But as we keep
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  Speaker 2: the blockade in place and keep the pressure on them,
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  Speaker 2: we're certainly not going to let our troops or our
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  Speaker 2: friends in the region just be like sitting ducks in
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  Speaker 2: the defensive crouch and only shooting back in some measured
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  Speaker 2: terms as President Trump usually does. He's going to hit
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  Speaker 2: back twice as hard.
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  Speaker 1: So now are you optimistic that smother them with the blockade?
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  Speaker 1: A pillow over there economic head. Are you optimistic that
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  Speaker 1: will work in changing the behavior of the regime, bringing
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  Speaker 1: freedom to the Iranian people, stopping the support for the
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  Speaker 1: proxies in the missile program, really.
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  Speaker 2: Hugh, As Donald Trump himself once said, the Iranians have
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  Speaker 2: never won a war, but they never lost the negotiation.
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  Speaker 2: I understand his reasons and his concerns about a new
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  Speaker 2: round of strikes, and some of our air friends in
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  Speaker 2: the reason are worried too. But in the end, that
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  Speaker 2: blockade can have to remain in place to keep the
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  Speaker 2: pressure on until someone in Tehran comes to the senses,
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  Speaker 2: or we should just make a decision to finish this
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  Speaker 2: all and start strikes again and win the war fast,
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  Speaker 2: and we rate the warfast. You you know, you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at two to three weeks maybe worth of strikes against
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  Speaker 2: critical targets left in Iran to make sure that we
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  Speaker 2: finish the job, that we keep the blockade in place,
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  Speaker 2: that we open straight so we get oil and fertilized
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  Speaker 2: or and other goods out and then go about our
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  Speaker 2: daily lives.
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  Speaker 1: I hope the President listens to you on that sentat Cotton.
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  Speaker 1: Last question, technical one, when you expect this reconciliation bill
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  Speaker 1: that we'll reopen DHS and fund the border, and I
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  Speaker 1: and asked through the the end of the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: to actually pass the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: Later to thank you as our expectation, we expect to
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  Speaker 2: pass later they and go to the House of Representatives
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  Speaker 2: and then have it moved on to the President's desk
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  Speaker 2: hopefully next week.
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  Speaker 1: Senter Tom Cotton, thank you. Always a pleasure to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you. And that's good news about the reconciliation. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: Senator Cotton. Breaking news by the way, Senator Guardians are
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  Speaker 1: tied with Yankees one one as we speak. It's always
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  Speaker 1: important to get the news in there. Let me also
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  Speaker 1: remind everyone well, I've got you right here. The fourth
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  Speaker 1: of July is fast upon us. That is our big
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  Speaker 1: two fiftieth up here in Maine where I am for
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  Speaker 1: a few days. The touching Missishlett went out today found
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of two fifty celebratory materials. I want to
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  Speaker 1: show them to you when you are our original thirteen colonies,
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  Speaker 1: although Maine was part of Massachusetts at the time you'll find.
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  Speaker 1: I'll show them to you a little bit later. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back on the gut you at show Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to America. I'm you Hewittt, so please to welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the program, our grand slam in titles. Guest Sam
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  Speaker 1: brown Back. I can call him Ambassador Sam brown Back,
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Sam brown Back. I can call him Senator Sam Brownback,
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  Speaker 1: or Governor Sam brown Back. But right now I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to call him author Sam Brownback because he's written
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  Speaker 1: a new book, China's War on Faith, and mister ambassador,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back. I can't wait to hear about this book.
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  Speaker 1: I heard you talking to Ben Dominich about it, and
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  Speaker 1: you touched on it. You guys went off on a
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  Speaker 1: frolic in detour. That's Ben's just cursive. I want to
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  Speaker 1: know the meat of the problem. It's not just Jimmy Lai.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a couple of pastors. How expansive is
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  Speaker 1: G's war on religion.
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  Speaker 3: It's a redo of mal if you want to really
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  Speaker 3: put it in the right terminology. Mao went in and
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  Speaker 3: literally did everything he could to crush all religion. Communism
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  Speaker 3: hates religion. It's officially atheistic. It needs to eliminate religion
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  Speaker 3: to control the people, and that's what did it kind
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  Speaker 3: of loosened up in her Dungchow ping for a while
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  Speaker 3: opening up to the West, I think really kind of
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  Speaker 3: showing us a side that was trying to bake us
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  Speaker 3: out to some degree. And then she has just come
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  Speaker 3: back in and hammered down. This is locked down doing
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  Speaker 3: everything they can to control religions. It's Christians, it's Muslims,
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  Speaker 3: it's Buddhists, it's fallen gong or to have state run
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  Speaker 3: organizations that control the religion.
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  Speaker 4: They do it that way as well.
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  Speaker 3: And then they've got surveillance technology now to be able
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  Speaker 3: to track people if they're practicing a faith and lock
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  Speaker 3: them up or disappear them.
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  Speaker 1: So, Ambassador brown Back, I followed Jimmy Li pretty close
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  Speaker 1: to whatever the President's ont to ask them about it.
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  Speaker 1: President Pressasion ping on on Jimmy Lai. That's the Vice
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  Speaker 1: president Secretary Rubio. Do you have any hope of getting
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Lai out alive?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do, But it looks like she is just
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  Speaker 3: going to play the hardball game on Jimmy Lai and
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  Speaker 3: on Pastor Ezra jen possibly as well, and a number
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  Speaker 3: of others, just saying Okay, you guys want them, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to hold him back from you. But that's a
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  Speaker 3: bad strategy on Shi Jinping's part. That's going to make
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  Speaker 3: Trump mad. It may not in the real near term here,
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  Speaker 3: but he that's going to irritate him, and then he's
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  Speaker 3: going to really push back hard. We saw this same
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  Speaker 3: play with Andrew Brunson and Turkey and President Erdawan there
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  Speaker 3: and that didn't work out well for Turkey, and this
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  Speaker 3: isn't going to work out well for China.
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  Speaker 1: And that said brun back, China's war on faith will
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  Speaker 1: detail a lot. I got to get ahold of the
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  Speaker 1: book and they got to get more fact. They're hardcore
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  Speaker 1: Leninists now under Jijenping, they really are believers. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the way I thought it was going to turn out.
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  Speaker 1: I was frankly wrong about China. I thought religious liberty
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  Speaker 1: would be an easy thing to give. What's he afraid of?
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  Speaker 1: The House Church is one hundred million. They haven't started
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  Speaker 1: any demonstrations.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the very thing they're afraid of. They're one
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  Speaker 3: hundred million, and they haven't done any demonstrations. But they
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  Speaker 3: answer to a different authority than the government. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: they will operate under the government, and they have operated
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  Speaker 3: under the government, but they answer to a higher power.
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  Speaker 4: They answer to God.
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  Speaker 3: And when you get people of faith that look at
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  Speaker 3: things and say, look, I am looking at my long
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  Speaker 3: term eternal perspective, not just my earthly perspective, and I
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  Speaker 3: think really too. The Chinese Communist Party studied the fall
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  Speaker 3: of the Soviet Union and saw the role that religion played.
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  Speaker 3: The Jewish refused Nicks, the Catholics in Poland really bringing
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  Speaker 3: down collapsing that and she's in a race against time.
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  Speaker 3: Most communist regimes don't last much longer than the fifty
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  Speaker 3: to eighty year ballpark, so he's trying to extend the
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  Speaker 3: life expectancy of a normal This dictatorial, deadening communism that
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  Speaker 3: we've seen play out in various places around the world,
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  Speaker 3: and ultimately not.
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  Speaker 4: Successfully, it kills the soul. It hurts people.
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  Speaker 1: Ambassador brown Back, I believe you are a Catholic convert.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a cradle Catholic, but I one River, two banks.
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  Speaker 1: I speak fluent Presbyterian, so I'm very good with the
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  Speaker 1: evangelicals as well. Here's my question, Pope Leo. I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting. I had high hopes that he would
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  Speaker 1: be vocal about Jimmy Lai and other dissidents. He has
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  Speaker 1: not been. Do you think he will change? Should he change?
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  Speaker 1: Should the Vatican's Religious Freedom dicastery change in the way
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  Speaker 1: that you used to represent the United States as our
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  Speaker 1: ambassador for international religious liberty? Should the Vatican be more outspoken?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: And I detail some of that in the book. You know,
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  Speaker 3: right now there are nine Catholic bishops imprisoned or detained
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  Speaker 3: or under house arrest in China. Now nine bishops, and
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  Speaker 3: what are we hearing about this? The Vatican has said, well,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a quiet diplomacy policy. Well, it hasn't been working.
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  Speaker 3: But I am hope because I believe Leo owes part
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  Speaker 3: of his papacy to the fact of the failed China
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  Speaker 3: strategy that's been in existence that Cardinal Perline has been
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  Speaker 3: the architect of. And I think there were a number
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  Speaker 3: of cardinals said no, we don't like how this thing
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  Speaker 3: is working out. So my hope is that Leo was
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  Speaker 3: carefully studying and looking how do I weave my way
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  Speaker 3: through this now going forward? And I hope to get
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  Speaker 3: much more vocal and open about the three genocides, the
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  Speaker 3: nine Catholic bishops, Jimmy Lai and all of these really
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  Speaker 3: deserve the papacy to speak out publicly and clearly about
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  Speaker 3: what the Chinese Communist Party is doing in China and
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  Speaker 3: then in all of its satellite countries and places like
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  Speaker 3: Nicaragua where they've kicked out a bunch of bishops, rested
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  Speaker 3: priests and pastors. I mean, really, the voice needs to
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  Speaker 3: be raised by the Vatican against what the CCP is
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  Speaker 3: doing and authorizing and allowing to take place and its satellites.
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  Speaker 1: It's ambassador. I'm sure you work with a Vatican bureaucracy
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  Speaker 1: when you were the ambassador, maybe when you were a
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  Speaker 1: senator and governor and congressman as well. Colonel apparely and
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  Speaker 1: is Francis's man. Leo is his own man. How long
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  Speaker 1: do you think it takes a new pope to get
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  Speaker 1: their sea legs so that they start doing things like
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  Speaker 1: John Paul the Second did for Poland and for religious
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  Speaker 1: descendants everywhere, and by the way, so did Benedict. Francis
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  Speaker 1: was the first one to actually stop doing this.
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  Speaker 4: He is and I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like Leo is a cautious man, particularly in
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  Speaker 3: dealing with the bureaucracy. I appreciated him coming out with
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  Speaker 3: clarity on some of the moral issues early on that
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  Speaker 3: Francis had seemed to be a bit more fuzzy about,
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  Speaker 3: and so I appreciated that Leo did that, but it's
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  Speaker 3: going to take him, probably a little bit of time
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  Speaker 3: to get his legs underneath him. We really need him
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  Speaker 3: to be a John Paul voice. We need him to
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  Speaker 3: go to Taiwan and.
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  Speaker 1: Say so ambassador to conclude China's war on faith. New book.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it is being studied in China. They read
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  Speaker 1: every book that's written about them there will they be
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  Speaker 1: more or less adverse to religious liberty. If g and
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  Speaker 1: his inner circle read your book.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're in for a fight with them. Religious
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  Speaker 3: freedom is something they fear more than our aircraft carriers
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  Speaker 3: or our nuclear weapons. It is that potent in their mind,
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  Speaker 3: and it is that potent to them. The Chinese people
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  Speaker 3: are religious, they're spiritual people.
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  Speaker 1: They fear it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you're looking at a real battle that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be engaged. But this is our secret weapon,
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  Speaker 3: it's their kryptonite against them. We need to really stand
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  Speaker 3: for religious freedom. We need to push it as a
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  Speaker 3: foundational issue for a modern nation in the world and
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  Speaker 3: push back against the authoritarism, the digital security, the digital
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  Speaker 3: police state that the Chinese are doing at home and
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  Speaker 3: shipping abroad. This is going to be a key part,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, of our conflict with the Chinese Communist Party.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Sam brought back. Good to see you again, mister Ambassador, Governor, Senator,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and Congressman. His new book is China's War on Faith.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: China's War on Faith, available at Amazon, pat Barnes and Noble,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and wherever books are sold. And hopefully it will help
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Lai and all the other religious dissondents in mcgoulag.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: That is China's stake que in America on Hutue, Welcome
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: back in America. I am here, Hewett. Of course, July
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: fourth is one month away our two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: but we have two months to go, or almost two
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: months until August second, seventeen seventy six, two hundred and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday, and that's when the Framers actually signed the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence. Dave Zevagno, my friend, a businessman from Ohio,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: is putting on a gala I've put in Bay in
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Ohio on that day, an enormous celebration day. Why are
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: we celebrating August second in Ohio.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Because on August second is the actual signing date of
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: the declaration where the fifty six folks from the colonies
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: signed on to the declaration. And it's as important a
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: date it's probably our July fourth.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It is an important date. And I'm not sure a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: lot of people know this. I've had you on before
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: because I want people to understand this. Has America to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: fifty been in touch with you. That's the private sector
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: undertaking to get events all around the country for the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: entire year. They got to be focused like a laser
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: on put in Bay on August second.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, we've talked to America two fifty. They're highly engaged
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: on July fourth. They've come to the recognition, as you
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: have promoted here that August second is a very important
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: date in our history that most people don't even know.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: And on that day we're going to be signing live
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: with many people in Ohio and around the world that
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: are coming to In Bay to sign on the actual
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: date that the two hundred and fifty year anniversary of
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: the signing Up Declaration.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Now, I made the argument that's a great place to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: do it because it's really a forty years war with
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Great Britain, and it's not over until age fifteen after
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the War of eighteen twelve include and that war was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: one it put in Bay. And that's why it's a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: great place to celebrate day two of our big celebration
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: for an entire How does it look from a fie?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Now you got the best damn band in the land coming,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: can put in Bay handle an enormous crowd.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: As you remember from the bi centennial, we had roughly
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: fifty thousand people come and witness the re enactment of
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: the bi centennial. This year we're have upwards of thirty
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: thousand peoples already signed up to attend. As you mentioned,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: we have the Ohio State Band, the Bowling Green Band,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: the Navy Band.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Will be there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: We have the Army Fife and Drum, the Bristol Fife
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: and Drum Group, and we have a number of national
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: acts that are coming in to play some music for us.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Hugh and I think the people on Hio will be
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: highly engaged. But most important is to get the word
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: out as to this date and why it's important in
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: our history. And just as important, it's like a Civics
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: lesson that people come to understand what the declaration was,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: what it was meant to be, and the risk that
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: the people that signed on actually took in our history
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: and why it's so important now.
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  Speaker 1: I have told a couple of my friends who are
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: elected members about this. Some are excited, some can't come.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Are you open to anyone from any state coming there
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: who's a member of the House, the Senator, or governor.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Are you saying, come on, come on, come Democrat, come
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Republic and be a part of this.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: We've invited every member of the House and the Senate formally,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: as well as every member of the House and Senate
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: in Ohio. So we sent out formal invitations that were
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: eleven by seventeen so they wouldn't miss them. We've also
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: been in contact with them via email and hugest to
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: your point, we've heard from three dozen of the elected officials.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Probably a dozen have committed so far to attend. They're excited,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: they didn't recognize the importance, and they're mostly focused on
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: elevating Ohio on the national map as it relates to
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: our celebration of two hundred and fifty years No.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Dave z Avogno, I teach con laws I know that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the signing is separate from the vote, But what a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know is it's different people sign
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it that who voted for it. I think it's fifty
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: sixth sign only fifty voted for it, and some of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: those fifty had left the Congress and new people had
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: been elected. They're putting their life on the line, even
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: if they didn't vote for it. They didn't have to do.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: This exactly, you know, most important to you, it's a
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: mutinus document. You know, we'd already broken out in war
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: a year earlier. General Washington was in a heavy fight.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: He was looking for support from from the Continental Congress
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: to declare our independence. So at that point in time
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: in our you know, most of the patriots that were
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: here still we're aligned with the English and.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: The British government.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: And it was, you know, the final frustration of trying
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: to work with King George, as we see in the
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: world today, that pushed us to declare our independence. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: luckily here we are two hundred and fifty year late,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty years.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Later, and it took seven years. So once again let's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: just give the details what times. It gets started on Sunday,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: August third, our jo undred and fiftieth anniversary of the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: signing of the Declaration. What time does it begin? At
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the Perry Memorial, the State the National Park Systems Perriy Memorial.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: The national ceremony will begin at two o'clock on August second, Sunday.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: It'll be accompanied, as I.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Said, with the Navy Band in the Ohio State University
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Band as co celebrators.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: If you will, we will read the declaration.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: You've been kind enough to suggest your positioning as the
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: master of ceremonies, which we sincerely appreciate, and we will
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: have folks from the national government, local government, Army, Navy
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: as well as military speaking.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And looking forward to it. Davis of Ogno, thank you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Go and look it up. August second is the date,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and go find put in by, try and get close
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and get there early on Sunday aug second, at two pm.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave. We celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: birthday on the Juquis Show. Welcome Back in America. I'm h
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you att Once a month I sit down with Philip Balboni,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: founder and editor in chief of the GlobalPost GlobalPost dot com,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: just to cover a story from around the world that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: no one else is paying attention to. And maybe this
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: week some people know about Armenia and what's going on,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: because we've got a great Armenian American community. Philip Balboni, welcome.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I was with some Armenia Americans on Saturday and a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: memorial service for my friend Stan Laserian. If you're listening,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: shout out to you. And they do mission trips to Armenia,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: et cetera. But I doubt they know about this treaty.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Well, first of all, we have a big Armenian diaspora
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: here in Boston. You know, I'm located in Boston, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: right across the street from where I'm talking there's an
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Armenian church. So lots of wonderful Armenian people here in America.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Fascinating country too. So there are two big things for
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: people to know about. The first is there's an election
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: on Sunday and the current Prime Minister, Nicole Pashinian, who's
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: been in office since twenty eighteen, is expected to win
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: re election for another four year term. But there's still
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: a lot of lingering anger over the war with Uzerbaijan,
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: in which Armenia lost the territory of Igorno Karabach.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: And thousands of Armenians died.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: The war was in twenty and then again in twenty
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: twenty three.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: At the end there one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Hundred thousand Armenians had to flee that territory and go
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: back to Armenia.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: So it's not resolved by any means.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Nevertheless, Pashinion is expected to prevail and to win reelection.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Trump has endorsed Pashunion for a reelection. He did that
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: on May twenty seven. The other big thing for people
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: to know is that relations with Russia, Armenia's historical ally
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: are really at stake right now. So maybe some folks
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: whoill remember that Armenia was part of the old Soviet
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Union until it broke up and then Armenia became an
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: independent republic and that's where they are today. So Pushinion
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: has been moving away from Russia, toward the US and
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: toward the EU. They've even begun a process to join
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: the EU. Now, if you're can imagine here, that doesn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: please Vladimir Putin at all, and he has made a
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: very thinly veiled warning to Armenia that if they took
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: that step, it could look like Ukraine, meaning possibly an invasion.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: I don't see how Russia could actually still do that
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: right now, but so that is a major theme that's
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: also playing out. And Georgia, which is just to the
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: north of Armenia, is also kind of in the grip
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: of these tensions between the West, if you will, and Russia.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: So those are the major issues that play in Armenia
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Now, Philip. And by the way, if you want to
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• 27:55
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• 27:58
  Speaker 1: on the toolbar. I want to put that in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: middle of the interview. Now, I want to go back
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to this territory that Armenia gave up. I have just
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: been reading Freeham at Midnight about when India was dismembered
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in eighteen forty and nineteen forty eight by Lord mount
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Batten East Pakistan West Pakistan. West Pakistan eventually became Bangladesh
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: or East Pakistan did and then there there was a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: horrific violence to the people who had to go from
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the new India to the new Pakistan. Millions of people died.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Did that happen with the settlement of this dispute.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: No, and it's not fully settled yet either.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: That's I mean there a peace treaty with Azerbaijan is
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: still to be worked out, and the US President Trump's
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: got involved in this, but it isn't done.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: But No, this war over in Nagono Karabak.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Has cost thousands of lives, but not millions of lives.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: It's very small, but it was deeply in the heart
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: of the Armenian people. And when Azerbaijan invaded again in
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, that's when all the remaining Armenian people
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: had to flee their homes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: I remember watching the video.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: People were in caravans, cars, trucks, on foot sneaking through
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: the mountains going back to Armenia. So there are people
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: in Armenia who don't want there to be a settlement.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: They want their territory back. Even though internationally Niguono Karabak
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: is recognized as part of Azerbaijan.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Well, people don't know. That doesn't always work out that way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And the India Pakistant millions died. Millions of people went
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: in both directions and many of them were butchered and slaughter.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So the good news at least is that this did
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: not happen. Philip. Before we run out of time, though,
• 30:05
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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• 31:12
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• 31:18
  Speaker 1: don't know who does your graphics package, Philip Belboni, but
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• 31:23
  Speaker 7: Thank you. He hadn't been Romanian. Oh okay, knows he
• 31:28
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• 31:30
  Speaker 8: He knows.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: And by the way, anyone from Armenia reading this, have
• 31:35
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• 31:49
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• 31:59
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• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm you Hewett. Joined up by Vic mad As. Vic
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: is the coast of the Getting Hammered podcast, also the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: weekend and culture and arts editor at the Washington Freebeacon
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: at Freebeacon dot com. And I'm sad to learn a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: farmer's market devots. Hey, Vic, when I was listening to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Getting Hambered this week, you confess to your farmer's market addiction.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Why in the world do you do that?
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: I just got so tired of living this other double life, Hue.
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: And I had to finally let everyone know the real me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: I just it was too much to live with. The
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: burden was too too great.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: And my only thought is.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: The way I do this is I like to cook
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: most of the most of the time in our house,
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: and rather than thinking, Okay, here's what I want to make,
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: go to the supermarket get the stuff, which is, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: most of the week on weekends. If I go to
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: the farmer's market, you know it's what am I going
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: to get?
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: Let me see what's good.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: At the market, and then I'm going to build my
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: meal around that. There, I got it off my chest.
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: Now, Hughed, please leave me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I've been to the farmer's market once in my life
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: because the butcher was a listener and watcher of the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: UUITT shown the Salem News Channel Salem Radio Network and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: wanted to meet me and told the fetching missus Stutt,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: so I went with her. Vic Madison, before I get
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the platiner, I do want to ask you about your
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: reaction as a longtime journalist to Scott Pelley attempting to
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: face Barry Weiss and her new hire at sixty minutes
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and the following brew Haha, what's your reaction to all this?
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: Well, it seems rather shocking to me if you want
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: to take Scott Pelly at face value, that he has
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: this serious slack of knowledge about how employment works, and that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: If you chew up, that's it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: If you tell hell out for your boss, you chew
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: your boss out in front of everybody, and somehow you
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: expect to keep your job.
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: I think he was sorely mistaken.
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: And when he elaborates in his own letter Hugh about
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: the questions he asked about, why did you get rid
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: of these people?
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: Why are you firing these people?
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: There's this thing called HR and HR laws that are
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: in place where you're not supposed to divulge personnel matters
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: to other members.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: He might as well just.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Go up to the boss and say, you know what,
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: I was looking at a colleague's past up in her drawer,
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: and she makes more than me, so I'd like to
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: make more and you can't fire me for that.
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: It's absolutely absurd. It's ridiculous.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely ridiculous, and I think it'll be over in
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a week. Now. Let's go to Grand platiner X is full,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: absolutely full, to the brim with what's going to happen
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: next to Platner. I have read some of the posts.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Sounds like an alleged sexual assault, if not more, But
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we don't know the details yet. What do you know?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And what's the free.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: Okay, So what we know is actually, as we're recording
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: this right now, Hugh Live, the New York Times, I
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: think has already broken that story. It's out and it's
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: several women talking about their relationships with Graham Plattner.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: It's not just one, it's more than.
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: One, and how they all felt very uncomfortable that the
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: relationships were toxic, that he can get very in physical
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: or intimidating. That's the story right now. And this happens,
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: as you know, on the heels of that special meeting
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: that Platiner had right here in Washington, d C. With
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: Democratic leaders to assure them there was no other shoe
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: that was going to drop. And as we know from
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: even like the Wall Street Journals reporting, Elizabeth Warren was saying, well,
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: you know, I mean there was a difference of course
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: between you know, personal marital issues and assault as long
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: as it's not assault, and she's fine with that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: This is a real problem for them.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: I think one of the people, one of the women
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: who are speaking out is a conservative, and I feel
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: very badly for her because the left in the media
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: are going to try to evestiate her and say that
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: this is some sort of a hatchet shop. But this
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: person is not coming out to speak because she's a
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: Republican and wants to get rid of this Democrat.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: No, she feels like main voters deserve to know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: This is the guy who at the moment supposedly is
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: up four points over Susan Collins.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: Is this the person you want to be your next senator? Cal?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: She has him falling like a rock. Now, Cal, she
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: is a betting forum online. It can actually just represent
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: inside training. It can represent people with an understanding of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the story trying to get ahead of the fall off.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: If you're a main voter, do you vote for Janet Mills,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the sitting governor? You know who Janet Mills is. She's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: one U state wide race, she's old, she probably can't
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: beat Susan Collins, but she's not going to embarrass you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: What do you think happens next Tuesday?
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the big hurdle. If anything's going to happen.
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: It's got to.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: There are two dates here, Hugh.
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: One is next Tuesday, which is the primary day, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: that determines, of course, who is going to be on
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: that ballot against Susan Collins.
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: The other date is July thirteen.
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: I believe that, and that's the final switch out date
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: if something happens, that the Democratic Party has the ability
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: to take him out and then put in, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: somebody like Janet Mills or possibly Jared Golden, the Congressman.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: So I mean, that's the situation that they're in right now.
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: I think at the moment they would be better off
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: obviously with Janet Mills, but I mean Grand Plantner was
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: crushing her, you know, you know, substantially, and she got
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: out of the race, even though that was you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: part of Schumer's plant. Now, maybe Schumer's plan is to
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: put in Jared Golden instead. But these next several days
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: are going to be critical. You know, if I were
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: if I were a Grand Planner at this point, with
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: everybody turning against him, particularly the establishment Democrats, I might
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: be tempted to hunker down and.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: Say, hey, this is who I am.
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: I had post traumatic stress disorder, I went through a
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: hard time.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: That wasn't me any that was a different me.
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: I'm a new man as of right now, and I
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: want to talk about policy.
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: This is what Elizabeth Warren says.
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: Why can't we just talk about the policies and the
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: poor main voters suffering under the yoke of Susan Collins
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: and Donald Trump for some reason, it's a really terrible
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: situation up there.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: And Senator Colins very popular. I don't care who they
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: nominate against her. It is a question of our margin
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of victory. Let me ask you, Elvic, about anti sematism
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and the Democratic Party. They nominated a Democrat from al
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Kaeda last night in New Jersey. He might be from
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the twelfth, but it will be d al Qaeda. What
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: is wrong with that party? Anti sematism seems to be
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: everywhere like sepsis in the body politic.
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, look, it really comes down to the
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: local politics here here with this is I think twelfth
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: of the thirteenth Congressional district in New Jersey, my former home,
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: my home state, and that's further up.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: It's a very liberal district.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: If it's like you know, I mean, there are cities,
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: for example, in New Jersey like Patterson that has a
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: very large Middle Eastern constituency, They're going to support somebody
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: like Adam HAMAI I'm not saying Patterson is in that district.
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying he has a lot of sympathy up there,
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: and they're not going to care that he was the
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: interpreter and a witness and an acolyte of the blind
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: Sheikh who was responsible the mastermind of the nineteen ninety
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: three World Trade Center.
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: Bombing, or that the fact that he was a doctor.
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: In Gaza at a hospital that was hiding Hamas commanders,
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: that doesn't seem to matter.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Yes, I get it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump is very unpopular there in a lot of
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: places in the country. But you really hope that people
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: would come to their senses and not vote for somebody
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: like him. I know that there are members of Congress
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: already that are kind of panicking about what's going to happen,
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: and they need to have hearings about this. It's a
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: situation similar to Maureen Galindo in Texas who lost her
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: primary but Adam one and handily, and I.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Just think anti Semitism democrats have to be asked on
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: every It's everywhere in the Party. It's in Michigan and Minnesota,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it's in Manhattan and New Jersey, it's in California, it's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: in Texas. When is it going to end? This is
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the worst it's been in my lifetime. Would you agree
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: with that?
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. I mean something changed.
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: It was after October seventh. It was a green light
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: for people to say not only that they're critical of Israel,
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: but they can question its right to exist.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: And that's bad use for everybody.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Rick Madis follow him on exit Victorino Maddis. Listen to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the latest Getting Hammered, which he co hosts with Mary
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Catherine Ham. Wherever podcasts are available, stay tuned in you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Hewett New York Times story has dropped in Josh Cross
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: hours here to talk about it with me. Josh is
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the editor of Jewish Insider Josh for the benefit of
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the audience, let me read the headline. Several women who
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: data Graham Platner recall unsettling behavior the Democratic candidate for
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Senate and could be charming, women said in interviews, but
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: some found his actions intimidating and disturbing. Peter Hassen of
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: The Free Beacon quotes two paragraphs from the story on X,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: but she said Platner regularly grabbed her by the shoulders,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes hard enough to leave Marx, and on one occasion
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: he yanked her out of the cab by her wrist
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: after an argument when she wanted to stay in the car.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her on behind
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: door close from the other side so she couldn't get out,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: telling her to remain there until she was calm. Eventually,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Miss Fifthfield said she fell asleep and left the next morning.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Is it time to put a fork in mister Platner's campaign?
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't go quite that far.
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: Well, we'll know a lot more Tuesday, when main Democratic
• 41:45
  Speaker 11: voters will go to the polls. We'll actually still have
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: a choice to either choose between Graham Plattner and the
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: state's governor who dropped out of.
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: The race but still is on the ballot. And then
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: I think we'll go go a long way and.
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: Determining how much support plats There still has within the
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: Democratic Party. At least I will say this is a
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: damaging story. I don't think it's the last story we're
• 42:05
  Speaker 11: going to see about Graham Plattner's personal life. You have
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: three women on record in this in this piece, one
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: Lindsey Fifield, who is a former partner and a Republican
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: official who had the most headline catching allegations, called them
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: physically threatening. The anecdote you just read about the taxi
• 42:30
  Speaker 11: and the physical assault is part of that account. Look,
• 42:35
  Speaker 11: I do think a lot of a lot of this
• 42:37
  Speaker 11: has been priced in to everyone's perceptions of Plattner. We
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: ever since the New York Times and Walster Journal broke
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: stories over the weekend that Platinner, you know it was
• 42:47
  Speaker 11: was engaging in uh sexteing and and and all kinds
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: of you know, bad behavior. You know, this has sort
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: of been expected. I think the question and is two
• 43:00
  Speaker 11: Democrats and the Democratic leaders rally behind him, and every
• 43:04
  Speaker 11: indication was based on the medians he had with senators
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: on Capitol Hill earlier this week that they're going to
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: hold the line and we'll see what happens in the
• 43:11
  Speaker 11: next next week's primary. But I think this is going
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: to continue to hurt his campaign. But it still is
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: a race, and he still looks like he will be
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: the nominee.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Maine Governor Janet Mills has gone out of her way
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in the last three days to tell Maine voters she
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: didn't drop out of the race. She suspended campaigning, but
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: she didn't drop out. In other words, I'm alive. I'm
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: over here. Look, I'm your governor, and I'm not crazy,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm not disturbed, and I don't have history of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: abuse or sexting or a Nazi tattoo. I'm not sure.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the Tori Shelley option up in Maine.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is New Jersey. It's Maine. Is
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: a pretty purple state. Susan Collins. But if they throw
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Jared Golden in the place of Graham Platner, do you
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: think that would make a difference.
• 43:59
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I mean Jared Golden was the Democrat's first choice.
• 44:03
  Speaker 11: Who He's a guy who's won a Trump district, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: he also is a veteran with tattoos and has blue
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: collar appeal without any of the baggage that that Platinum
• 44:12
  Speaker 11: brings to the table. So I'm not sure if Golden
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: would be interested in running. Maybe things have changed, but
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: he decided not to run for the seat. He had
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: very little interest in staying Congress. So look, as I
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: understand it, there's a window in which Platner would have
• 44:26
  Speaker 11: I think about a month after the primary if he withdrew,
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: that the party could replace him on the ballot after
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: a certain point. Though there is no double switch like
• 44:36
  Speaker 11: we saw in New Jersey way back when I think
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: the bigger question, I mean, the primary results are. You know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 11: nothing is more convincing than that, just the pure math
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: of how much support Platner has in the Democratic Party.
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: He's been tefla on Hugh. I mean, I find these allegations,
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: you know, pretty horrible. And yet he survived allegations about
• 44:57
  Speaker 11: the Totenkov tattoo. He survived all these many many posts
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: about his misogynistic.
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: Views and racist and bigoted views.
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: He survived even pretty recent allegations about him disparaging military
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: heroes who who lost their lives fighting for the United
• 45:14
  Speaker 11: States in Afghanistan.
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: So you know, I'm in waiting see mode.
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: I will say to you that the polling, there's been
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: one poll that came out from the Platner's campaign showing
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: him with his one of the smallest advantages he's had
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: since this campaign began. So I do think people are
• 45:30
  Speaker 11: starting to tune in and they're engaged on this story,
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: and Platner's numbers are going down since you know, the
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: story broke last weekend.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: The other electoral story of today is that the democrat
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: from al Qaeda has been nominated. That's that's what is D.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: You know they say D New Jersey seventeen or twelve,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it's going to say D al Qaeda. What did you
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: make of his way? Is this splintered field? He only
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: got twenty two percent or something like that. What do
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you make of the Democrats nominating a fellow who went
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to Bosnia i Bath of al Qaeda, who was a
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: character witness called by the defense for the Blind Shake.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: What do you make of that? The Democrats I think
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: have a huge anti Semitism problem.
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: A close associate of the Blind Shake.
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: It wasn't just a w and he was someone who
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: was friendly and and and and actually was quoted in
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: the New York Times over the weekend that was defends
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: still defending the shak as not someone who was only
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: preaching chihat about half the time and the other time
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: he was he was a normal guy. I mean, this
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: guy still hasn't recanted a lot of the controversies and
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: the extreme Islamist extremist beliefs that he apparently had in
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: the nineties. So this is this is Look, I'm shocked,
• 46:39
  Speaker 11: Hugh that this hasn't. I mean, this is a district
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: in central New Jersey. It's a stone's throw from the
• 46:44
  Speaker 11: World Trade Center. The Blind Shak was involved in engineering
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: the first World Trade Center bombing. The notion that a
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: candidate like Adam Hamawi could even be viable for any election,
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: no less member of Congress in that district is would
• 46:59
  Speaker 11: have been unthinkab a few years ago. But Democrats have
• 47:02
  Speaker 11: the party has gone deepened ideologically, and they've embraced all
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: kinds of radical candidates and would say he's not the
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: only one. Chris rab in Pennsylvania is another one that
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: has a similar track record.
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: There are two.
• 47:17
  Speaker 11: Socialist Democratic socialist candidates who hold a whole host of
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: extremist comments running to New York later this month.
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: So this is this is the kind of the gold
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: medal above all, like some al Qaeda tizes.
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: And Islamic extremist ties in the nineteen nineties, who hasn't
• 47:33
  Speaker 11: recanted or hasn't spoken out against them, is that going
• 47:36
  Speaker 11: to likely be a congressman? The big question we're asking
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: Hakim Jefferies and the Democratic leadership QEU is whether he
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: will be seated on any national security committees if he's
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: elected to Congress, Well, will they see him on the
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: sensitive committees given that background.
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: So far, they've given no indication.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Jewish Jewish Insider Donny polling of American Jewish vote and
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: whether it's on the move because they've got to see
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: what's happened to the Democrats.
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: We are having a commission full in ourselves, but we've
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: monitored some incredible pull show a lot of don't think
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: I don't think that the numbers dramatically, but there's definitely
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: a lot of dissatisfaction with the direction of the Democratic Party.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I just can't I can't imagine American jew voting Democratic
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: or any supporter of Israel doing so. Josh Crossauer follo
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: him on exit. Josh, welcome to the program. Every year,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: the Institute, the International Institute for Strategic STUDIISS, holds a
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Defense and Foreign Affairs conference in Singapore at the Shangri
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Lai Hotel. My next guest, Senator Pete Ricketts of Nebraska,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: went to that forum. Senator Ricketts, welcome, it's good to
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: have you. That is one of the pre eminent conferences.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: There's Munich, there is the Reagan Defense Forum, there's the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Halifax form. What did Shangri La sell hard this year?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: What do you learn there?
• 48:55
  Speaker 12: Well, it really was a great opportunity to meet with
• 48:58
  Speaker 12: our Indo pacific ally and particular Secretary Hegseth gave a
• 49:02
  Speaker 12: great speech about how we want to work with our
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: para partners and allies. We need them to step up,
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: and then he gave shout outs to all the countries
• 49:11
  Speaker 12: that are stepping up. Japan, for example, is increasing their
• 49:14
  Speaker 12: defense spending and they are changing their laws so they
• 49:17
  Speaker 12: can sell, for example, ships to our allies in the region.
• 49:20
  Speaker 12: Korea is stepping up their defense spending. They want to
• 49:23
  Speaker 12: take over more responsibility for their defense. We've got the
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: Philippines have been very vocal. They call it a trans
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: radical transparency with regard to the malign activities of communist China.
• 49:35
  Speaker 12: You've got other countries like Australia that are parting with US,
• 49:38
  Speaker 12: partnering with us with August and all these things are
• 49:41
  Speaker 12: really helping to strengthen our deterrence against Communist China, which
• 49:44
  Speaker 12: is the greatest existential threat to our country.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Now, Senny Ricketts. I heard Aaron McClain, CBS News correspondent,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Free Press correspondent interview Congressman Baumgartner about this. He said,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: there was an incident involving our commanding general in South
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Korea who had referred to South Korea as being an
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: aircraft carrier, which didn't really make the South Koreans happy.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: What was that all about.
• 50:10
  Speaker 12: I think a lot of things get taken out of context.
• 50:13
  Speaker 12: In fact, there was a part of the forum when
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: Chinese representative got up and asked a question about General
• 50:21
  Speaker 12: Brunson making a comment about Kreb being a dagger pointing
• 50:24
  Speaker 12: toward the heart of China, and it was relation to
• 50:27
  Speaker 12: a speech which was actually referring to a World War
• 50:30
  Speaker 12: II comment about Korea being a dagger pointed toward the
• 50:34
  Speaker 12: heart of Japan, and he was addressing students, and so
• 50:38
  Speaker 12: he said, you got to put it in context.
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: Here's what I was doing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 12: I was talking on this podcast. Here's where I'm on YouTube.
• 50:44
  Speaker 12: He said, you should go look at it to make
• 50:45
  Speaker 12: sure you've got in context. My speech was actually pretty good,
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: and he got the whole room to applaud. So I
• 50:51
  Speaker 12: think that what you have to look at is what
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: is the context of those comments being made. And frankly, again,
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: we're working very closely with the Republic of Korea on
• 51:00
  Speaker 12: their defense and we have been for many decades, and
• 51:03
  Speaker 12: they want to take over more responsibility and in fact
• 51:06
  Speaker 12: they want to improve their defense, for example by adding
• 51:09
  Speaker 12: a nuclear submarine.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: All right, now, Senator Nebraska doesn't make me think national defense,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: but I think you've got silos up there or maybe
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: be twenty one. What have you gotten in Nebraska that's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: all national defense oriented.
• 51:24
  Speaker 12: Well, we have off an Air Force Base which is
• 51:26
  Speaker 12: home to the fifty fifth Wing, which is one of
• 51:29
  Speaker 12: the most widely distributed combat.
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: Wings in our Air Force.
• 51:33
  Speaker 12: We also are home to track Com, which controls all
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: of our nuclear forces. So I would actually say we've
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: got a lot of nexus with national security. And as
• 51:40
  Speaker 12: you pointed out, we have a number of missile silos
• 51:43
  Speaker 12: that we are currently refurbishing in western Nebraska, upgrading our
• 51:47
  Speaker 12: minimate missiles with the new Sentinel program. So we actually
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: Nebraska plays a key role in our national defense.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: So there is a push by President Trump in the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: administration to get a trillion and a half dollars I've
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Collins on. She said she'll get as much as she can.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You've got voter rama going on as we speak. I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: surprised we could keep you, Senator Cotton, manage to sneak
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: out for a little bit as well. Do you think
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that the whole trillion and a half will get into
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the defense spending pipeline sooner rather than later.
• 52:18
  Speaker 12: Well, I absolutely support our need to be able to
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: recapitalize our military to deter China, and I would point
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: out that the spending we do on defense is actually
• 52:26
  Speaker 12: cheaper than.
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: Getting into a war.
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: So that's what this is all about, is making sure
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: we have the capability to deter our adversaries. And I
• 52:34
  Speaker 12: would defer to Susan Collins, she's the chair of the
• 52:38
  Speaker 12: Appropriations Committee.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I agree with her.
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: We'll try to get as much of that for the
• 52:42
  Speaker 12: president as we can. As you know, when the president
• 52:45
  Speaker 12: starts negotiating, he usually star starts out on the far
• 52:48
  Speaker 12: end of where he hopes to get. But we do
• 52:50
  Speaker 12: need to increase our defense spending to deter communist China, Russia, Iran,
• 52:54
  Speaker 12: North Korea. We've got some very dangerous adversaries out there
• 52:58
  Speaker 12: and they are working together.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Now. When you go to Shangri Law. These are a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: very famous defense conference. You'll get Taiwan, you'll get the Philippine, Japan, Singapore.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: What I don't know about is Malaysia and Indonesia, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: increasingly Malaysia and Indonesia gather since they are the pincers
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: around the Malacca Straight did they show up? Are they
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: on our team?
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: We had?
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I had meetings actually both with Centa.
• 53:26
  Speaker 12: Duckworth also accompanied me, and we had meetings with both
• 53:31
  Speaker 12: Indonesia and Malaysia, very good meetings, and also we talked
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: to our allies and partners such as Australia as well
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: as New Zealand. And then of course they are European nations.
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: We had meetings with France and Germany as well. The
• 53:44
  Speaker 12: UK is represented there, so there's a number of countries there.
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 12: One of the things with these different countries is we
• 53:51
  Speaker 12: need to work with them and bring them along. We cooperate,
• 53:54
  Speaker 12: for example, with Indonesia on military exercises. As you point out,
• 53:57
  Speaker 12: Malaysia's got a very strategic location. We want to develop
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: and keep very good relationships with those folks. And you know, frankly,
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: again we are competing against communist China.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: So we've got to be present.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: So I want to switch the politics for a moment
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: with you, Senator Ricketts. The news story on Graham Platner
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: just broke. Have you had a chance to read it
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: in the New York Times yet?
• 54:19
  Speaker 12: I have not had a chance to read it, though
• 54:21
  Speaker 12: I heard a little bit of your program before we
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: got on with regard to some of the things, that
• 54:25
  Speaker 12: just adds to the number of things that really question
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: whether or not this man is fit to serve an office.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: So when you talk to your Democratic colleagues, you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: on the floor or just in the hallway, do any
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: of them take your side and said, Oh my gosh,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: nobody knew what we were getting into here. I hope
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Janet Mills wins the nomination because no one's cut them
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: loose yet.
• 54:46
  Speaker 12: Well, you got to say that Chuck Schumer, for example,
• 54:50
  Speaker 12: recruited Janet Mills to get to the race and then
• 54:52
  Speaker 12: really didn't help her, didn't support her when she was
• 54:55
  Speaker 12: running against Graham Plattner. And really this is because the
• 54:58
  Speaker 12: whole Democrat leadersh has kowtow to the far left wing
• 55:02
  Speaker 12: of the Democrat Party. They have really completely capitulated to
• 55:06
  Speaker 12: anything the far left wants to do, and so Leader
• 55:10
  Speaker 12: Schumer of the Democrats just got scared off and didn't
• 55:13
  Speaker 12: support the governor of Maine in her race against this
• 55:18
  Speaker 12: Platiner character. I can't help but think that they've got
• 55:21
  Speaker 12: buyer's remorse now that Graham Plattner.
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: Is their candidate.
• 55:24
  Speaker 12: I will tell you, at the end of the day,
• 55:26
  Speaker 12: I don't think it's going to make a difference. Susan
• 55:29
  Speaker 12: Collins is a very good politician. She's a grassroots retail person.
• 55:33
  Speaker 12: The polls always show her down and she always comes
• 55:35
  Speaker 12: back and wins. So I think we're going to have
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: Susan Collins regardless of who their candidate ultimately is.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: That would be good for Maine, given that she's the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Chair of Appropriations, but also good for the Senate, given
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that she stands right in the center of the ideological
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: spectrum of the United States. So, Senator Ricketts, I know
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: you're somewhat new, second year in the Senate. The voter
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: ramas what do you think of them?
• 56:01
  Speaker 12: Well, I will say there is no private sector analog
• 56:04
  Speaker 12: for how we do bus in the US Senate, so
• 56:07
  Speaker 12: it is a little bit different than you might expect
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: coming from another background. Some of the rules are pretty
• 56:13
  Speaker 12: arcane and how it all works. I would like to
• 56:16
  Speaker 12: think that there's a better way to do things, but
• 56:18
  Speaker 12: these are the rules that have developed over the last
• 56:21
  Speaker 12: two and a half centuries, and they've served us to
• 56:24
  Speaker 12: create the greatest nation the world's ever seen. So I
• 56:26
  Speaker 12: guess we'll just keep working away through them, as sometimes
• 56:29
  Speaker 12: as difficult as they might seem.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: All right, So I want to go back finally to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: the Shandri Law Conference. You mentioned that Secretary Hexeth gave
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: a very well received speech in it, though he called
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: on people to step up or get left beyd You
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: mentioned New Zealand. I don't know that they spend two
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: percent of their GDP on defense. Was anyone from New
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Zealand there? And how that's kind of a free writer?
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: Well, in fact, there was a questioner from New Zealand
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: who said New Zealand was at one percent defense spending.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: They've are now moving up to two percent.
• 57:03
  Speaker 12: You did not met in New Zealand, did not get
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: a shout out from Secretary Heaseth in a speech because
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: they haven't stepped up enough. And so the questioner asked, well,
• 57:13
  Speaker 12: is New Zealand free riding? And Secretary of Hegseth basically said, well, yeah,
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: I mean he was pretty straightforward with it, you know,
• 57:22
  Speaker 12: and I would, I guess I would say that certainly
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: one percent is free riding two percents better. But really,
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: you know, you look what South Korea is doing, get
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: up to They're pledging to get to three and a
• 57:31
  Speaker 12: half percent. Japan's increasing their defense spending. You know, this
• 57:33
  Speaker 12: is where our Indo Pacific allies really got to look
• 57:36
  Speaker 12: at this to say, hey, look, China is being increasingly
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: increasingly aggressive. They're you know, all the things they're doing
• 57:44
  Speaker 12: with their legal course of aggressive and deceptive activities are
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: putting pressure on allies like the Philippines, and we need
• 57:53
  Speaker 12: to stick together to be able to push back on them.
• 57:55
  Speaker 12: That's what's going to be most effective. But you got
• 57:57
  Speaker 12: to have a credible turn, which means you got to
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: spend on defense to be able to have that. We
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: are again, the Philippines is one of the countries that
• 58:04
  Speaker 12: Secretary Hexsworth give a shout out to because they are
• 58:07
  Speaker 12: upping their defense spending and spending it in the right
• 58:09
  Speaker 12: areas with regard to recapitalizing their navy.
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: So we need our other allies to do the same.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: The last thirty second, Senator Ricketts, did Vietnam come up?
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: They're communists? You know, we were at war with them,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: but they don't like China and we don't like China.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Did they come up at all?
• 58:27
  Speaker 12: Vietnam was president as well, Senata Duckworth and I had
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: meetings with their defense minister to talk about again the relationship. Certainly,
• 58:35
  Speaker 12: we want to continue to develop our relationship. In fact, surcitrary,
• 58:38
  Speaker 12: Heastpt did give a shout out to Vietnam as well
• 58:40
  Speaker 12: during his speech, So we look to continue to have
• 58:44
  Speaker 12: increasing cooperation with them, too.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Good way to keep China in a box is actually
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: to have a box. To begin with, Senator Ricketts, good
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: to see you again from the great state of Nebraska.
• 58:53
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  Speaker 1: do it as problem as one of my very favorite
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  Speaker 1: people in America and politics, former Vice President Mike Pence,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: joins me to discuss a brand new bestseller, which is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: what Conservatives believe it is intended to and I think completely.
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  Speaker 8: Does bring Barry Goldwater's.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Conscience of the Conservative forward into the twenty twenty five
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six time frame, and does it concisely compactly,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: And I love this story about you meeting Barry Goldwater. Five,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: mister Vice President. Let's kick off there because a lot
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of my audience, you know this, they won't know about
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the conscience of the conservative and why this has to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: be done.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: Well, look, it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 13: Really has been since the days of Barry Goldwater's book
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 13: in nineteen sixty which inspired my new book What Conservatives
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 13: Believe that came out just this week.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: And by the way, thank you for having me on.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: You all are the pleasures you are.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 13: You are the most clear invoice for conservative values and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 13: particularly a strong national defense.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: On the airways of America. And it's great to be
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Barry Goldwater's whistlestop campaign came through my small town when
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 13: I was five years old.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: My mom took us down to the trade station.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 13: But it wasn't until I ran for office the first
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 13: time at the tail end of the Reagan administration that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 13: I was made familiar with his classic book, Conscience of
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 13: a Conservative. And that's what inspired my book, which is
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 13: about rediscovering the conservative conscience, because look, over the last
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 13: fifty years, the conservative agenda has defined the Republican Party,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: a commitment to a strong defense, American leadership in the world,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 13: less government, less taxes, traditional moral values, and our battle
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 13: throughout those decades politically was with a liberal Democratic Party.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: You and I both know that as the.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 13: Democratic Party has surged farther and farther to the progressive left,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 13: even embraced socialism, questioned even our long standing alliance with Israel.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Including in very dark terms.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: I wrote the book because I want conservatives to know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 13: that there's also been a threat rising from the populous
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 13: right within our own movement.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: It really questions.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 13: America's role as leader of the free world, introduces big
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 13: government solutions, marginalizes the right to life and other traditional
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 13: values issues, and as we go into twenty twenty six,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 13: and as we begin to think about twenty twenty eight,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 13: who our standard bearer will be. I thought that this
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 13: is just the right time for us as a movement
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 13: to reflect deeply on what conservatives believe. And I hope
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 13: the book starts that debate.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: It does, and it does it well. In eighteen concise chapters,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: excluding the preface and the epilogue, Vice President Pence lays
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: out the core thing. Now doesn't mean you have to
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: agree with everything. I'm already and said, seventy percent is
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: good enough for him. I agree with about ninety five
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: percent of what is in what conservatives believe. And I'm
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: going to start what's up. I know you'll take it,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: but I want to get to our disagreements eventually. But
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I want to start by telling you I have never
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: seen duty is ours. Results are gods, the quote from
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: John Quincy Adam. And I'm never going to forget it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: now that I've seen it, Duty is ours, Results are gods.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: You want to explain that, mister Vice President, because it's fabulous.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 13: Well, John Quincy Adams, of course, one of the one
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 13: of our presidents, the son of a president but a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 13: man who in his time was considered the most brilliant
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 13: I think are in America simply summed up what has
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 13: become my whole philosophy of government. And that is, whether
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 13: it was my time in the Congress that I write
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 13: about in my book What Conservatives Believe, where I was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 13: a backbench conservative fighting against the forces of big government,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 13: even in my own party at the time.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: And against the.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 13: Extraordinary expansion of government under Barack Obama, whether it was
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 13: when I was a governor or as vice president of
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 13: the United States, For me, it was just always about
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 13: duty at about fulfilling the promises that I'd made to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 13: the people of Indiana, to the people of America. And
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 13: if you take that to heart what John Quincy Adams
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 13: says that duty is ours outcomes belonged to God, I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 13: think you can steer your way through public life, whether
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 13: it be as an activist, a candidate, or an officeholder,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 13: with a lot of peace of mind.
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  Speaker 1: I think it so perfectly sums up the best approach
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: to not just political life, but life in general. Now,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: where do we agree the most? I want to quote
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: from page thirty six. The chief duty, that's your word,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: The chief duty of every Conservative must be the Conserve,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: support and defend the Constitution of the United States. That's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: what conservatives believe. That is the central deal. I'm very
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: happy you said that. A lot of people forget that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: ours is the constitution to defend. Is that surprising the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: conservatives you run into that, you put it that bluntly.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't know if it surprises people, but it
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 13: certainly has been received well, not just since the book
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 13: came out, but as I've spoken in those terms over
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 13: the last five years. Look, we are the Republican Party.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 13: The Republic was established in the Constitution of the United States.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 13: But our duty to support and defend the Constitution extends
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  Speaker 13: to every American who takes the oath of office, and
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  Speaker 13: it's the obligation of every citizen to continue.
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  Speaker 4: To uphold it.
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  Speaker 13: And I hold the view that even in these divided times,
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  Speaker 13: when we see the progressive left for generations trying to
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  Speaker 13: rewrite the Constitution, in our courtse trying to disregard the Constitution,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 13: and ultimately.
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  Speaker 4: Even this week, going back to the argument of.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 13: Court packing, adding justices to the court to rewrite the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 13: Constitution by fiat, I think the American people know the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 13: key to unlock a boundless American future lies where it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 13: always has been, and that is by.
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  Speaker 4: Keeping faith with the Constitution.
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  Speaker 13: But as I said, there are even voices on the
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  Speaker 13: populace right who have expressed the same disdain for the Constitution.
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  Speaker 13: I love what President Reagan said, and it's in my book.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 13: He essentially said, you know nations around the world, well,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 13: many nations have constitutions. But what's unique about the American
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 13: Constitution is our constitutions tells government what it cannot do,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 13: what it can do, and it works and it gets
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 13: in the way it is. But folks from the progressive
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 13: left of some of the populous right have occasionally have
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  Speaker 13: a problem with it. But I think it's I really
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  Speaker 13: do believe it is the chief duty now every American.
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  Speaker 1: After that, you quote Proverbs twenty five fifteen, a word
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: fitly spoken like apples of gold and pictures of silver,
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  Speaker 1: and then you remind us all that Lincoln said the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: declaration was the apple of gold in the Constitution, it's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: silver frame, adding gold is more valuable than silver, and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: this is you, gold is more valuable than silver. And
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: declaration breathe life into the Constitution in civil society. When
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you were interviewing Supreme Court nominee for President Trump, and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: you were the last interview for the three nominees he
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: put onto the court. So all honor to Jefferson and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Mike Pence. Did you ask them how the declaration fit
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: in with the Constitution, Because a lot of original lets
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: say oh, no, no, no, that's good, and I always say, yes,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: it's obviously it's the apple of gold in the frame
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: of silver. Did you ever get around that with them?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: You know we're at I don't know that.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 13: I'm not Hugh Hewittt, so I don't know if I
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 13: got that philosophical and deep.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, we did talk about
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: their philosophy of jurisprudence.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 13: And I couldn't be more proud of the three justices
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 13: the President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 13: the United States, and it was my honor to have
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 13: the opportunity to interview them last before the President made
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 13: his final decision. But there's no question that everything begins
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 13: with first principles, and in my book, what conservatives believe.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I hope it.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 13: Inspires people to look back to those timeless precipos, because
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 13: they really hold the keys to a Bauble speaker.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back with Vice President. FAM's talking more
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: about what conservatives believe. I got to do a couple
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: of disagreements with him. It's not one hundred percent agreements,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: but we're close. May Jo in America, Welcome back in America.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: As I read through Vice President Pence's brand new book,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: What Concertos Believe, I just nodded, nodded, nodded, took notes
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: except for two places. So it's a radio show, it's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: a television show in the Santel News channel. Let me
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: go to those two places. Number one, social Security must
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: be means tested. Now. I was obliged. I'm seventy, mister
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Vice President, So I was obliged. I have to take
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: my Social Security now, and you want to tax I've
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: been working since I was sixteen, and I know I'd
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: be at the top of that means testing because it
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: is for Medica. And so I just want you to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: explain for Medicare. I want you to explain to the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: audience why it needs to be mean tested and when
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: would you apply that, because that's going to shock a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: lot of people.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 13: The idea is that conservatives have talked about to deal
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: with what really is the most predictable fiscal crisis in
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 13: American history, and that is thirty nine trillion dollar national debt.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 13: You know, you are probably the most compelling voice for
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 13: national security on the airwaves of the country. And the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 13: argument that I make in my book what Conservatives Believe
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 13: begins with the fact that a former chairman of the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 13: Joint Chiefs of Staff was asked before a Congressional committee,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: Hugh about fifteen years ago, when the national debt was
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  Speaker 13: only ten trillion dollars.
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  Speaker 4: He was asked what the greatest threat to the.
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  Speaker 13: National security of the United States was in the twenty
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  Speaker 13: first century, and without hesitation, he said the national debt.
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  Speaker 13: And I believe that two years ago, for the first
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  Speaker 13: time in our history, America spent more money on interest.
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  Speaker 4: On the national debt than we did on our national defense.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not sustainable and it's not in the interest
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  Speaker 4: of our children and grandchildren.
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  Speaker 13: And so in the book, I simply say, we know
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  Speaker 13: the progressive left their prescription for dealing with runaway spending
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  Speaker 13: and debt and deficits.
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  Speaker 4: To simply higher taxes.
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  Speaker 13: That there's no question that they would be more than
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  Speaker 13: happy to return to the USURIAUS tax rates that we
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  Speaker 13: saw in the middle of the last century in this country,
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  Speaker 13: and that characterize most of the tax codes in Europe.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think it's incumbent upon conservatives. Whether it's
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  Speaker 4: ideas that you like or not.
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  Speaker 13: Let's begin the debate and at least conclude that is
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  Speaker 13: simply morally wrong to pile a mountain range of debt
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  Speaker 13: on our children and grandchildren. If Republicans and Conservatives don't
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  Speaker 13: do it through compassionate and common sense reform, we will
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  Speaker 13: simply be left with nothing but bad choices, higher taxes
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  Speaker 13: or deep cuts. With the inevitable fiscal crisis at the
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  Speaker 13: nation dead presents us.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that you get named to a Social Security
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  Speaker 1: Commission the way that Patrick moynihan did, because Daniel, Patrick
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  Speaker 1: moynihan and Mike Pince would approach it seriously and you'd
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  Speaker 1: get a bipartisan issue.
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  Speaker 10: Out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go into my last disagreement, because next segment,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about national security, especially Israel. At
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  Speaker 1: one point, I'm pro life, your pro life. I'm Catholic,
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  Speaker 1: you're evangelical, but we're both pro life. You suggest that
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  Speaker 1: conservatives must at some point seek to redefine the Fourteenth Amendment.
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  Speaker 1: Seek a reinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment to expand its
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  Speaker 1: definition of persons in a due process clause to include
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  Speaker 1: the unborn. Had the framers done that, we'd be a
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  Speaker 1: lot better off as a country. They didn't. It's not there.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like judicial activism of the highest order to me,
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  Speaker 1: mister Vice President, why isn't it?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I honestly, you know, I think that's an interesting take.
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  Speaker 13: But I just, you know, take a half step back,
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  Speaker 13: you and I to say I couldn't be more proud
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  Speaker 13: to have been part of the most pro life administration
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  Speaker 13: in American history. We appointed three of the justices to
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  Speaker 13: the Supreme Court that sent Roe Versus way to the
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  Speaker 13: ash heap of history where it belongs. We know the
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  Speaker 13: progressive left continues to be of active advancing abortion across
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  Speaker 13: the country in a Democrat led states, and if they
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  Speaker 13: take control of the Congress, I think every pro life
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  Speaker 13: for in America should know if they take control of
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  Speaker 13: the Congress, they have every intention of introducing legislation to
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  Speaker 13: codify Roe Versus waded into federal law. And so I
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  Speaker 13: think the cause of life remains the calling of our time.
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  Speaker 13: One of my concerns about the current administration and the
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  Speaker 13: populace right is there's been a consistent effort to marginalize
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  Speaker 13: the right to life at the center of our movement.
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  Speaker 13: And also I'm saddened that the administration and has ignored
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  Speaker 13: the effect, the dangerous effect on women and of course
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  Speaker 13: unborn children of male order abortion pills that the Biden
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  Speaker 13: administration made available. But you know, whether it's you know,
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  Speaker 13: an interpretation of the fourteenth Amendment, whether it's a human
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  Speaker 13: life amendment to the Constitution of the United States, I
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  Speaker 13: think our movement should not rest, should not relent until
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  Speaker 13: we restore the sanctity of life to the center of
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  Speaker 13: American law. And that's why in my book I call
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  Speaker 13: the right to life the first.
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  Speaker 1: Freedom, and anyone who reads what conservatives believe intent will
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  Speaker 1: come away more pro life than when they began. That's
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  Speaker 1: the Human Life Amendment. I'm all for, as I am
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  Speaker 1: for the pro life centers around the country, which you
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  Speaker 1: speak up for and on behalf of in the book.
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  Speaker 1: And when we come back, we're going to go back
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  Speaker 1: to what we agree on. One hundred percent Israel and
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  Speaker 1: a strong defense in Americas. They welcome back America. I'm
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: with Vice President Mike Pence. He's got a brand new book,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: invaluable really, especially for young conservatives and people in college.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: You don't really know what it means. What conservatives believe
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: is first principles. It's concise, it's compact, it's beautifully written,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: well organized, and well researched. Mister Vice President, I think
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  Speaker 1: you stand second to no one in your sport for
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: the Jewish State, for the state of Israel. I want
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: to step back though a little bit. You make a
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: good argument about that in the book, about why they
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: are our most important ally, why we have to be
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: in line with them. However, I want Fox this morning
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: to ask about this new New Jersey congressman. It's going
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: to have d al Qaeda behind his name when he wins.
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  Speaker 1: And I made the point the problem in America right
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: now is not anti Zionism, not anti Israel. It's anti
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Semitism in the Democratic Party. It's an infection. It's spreading
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: from Michigan to Minnesota, to Maine to New York City.
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  Speaker 1: And Mom, Donnie and now this congressman, what do we
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  Speaker 1: do about it? Anti Semitism in America. I'm seventy I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen it like this. What do you think about this?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've never seen it like this in my lifetime
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  Speaker 4: or on this continent.
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  Speaker 13: But you're precisely right about what's happening on the progressive left.
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  Speaker 1: And a little bit on the populace right, and a
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  Speaker 1: little bit on the populast right too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we have to acknowledge that.
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  Speaker 13: Look, there's no place in America for anti Semitism in
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  Speaker 13: any form. Israel is our most cherished ally. Literally from
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  Speaker 13: the time of the American founding, Pulpits in this country
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 13: thundered with the aspiration that the people of Israel would
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 13: return to the land of Israel.
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  Speaker 4: America was the first nation on earth to.
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  Speaker 13: Recognize the Jewish state of Israel in nineteen forty eight.
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  Speaker 13: And I give President Trump great credit during our administration
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  Speaker 13: moving the American embassy to Jerusalem, recognize the goal on Heights.
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  Speaker 4: But in this new administration taking the fight.
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  Speaker 13: With Israel at our side directly to the Malas in
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 13: Tehran last year and this year is greatly to his
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  Speaker 13: credit and commendable. But this trend toward anti Semitism is
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 13: very real.
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  Speaker 4: But as I said, it's not really new.
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  Speaker 13: In my book, what conservatives believe I write about the
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  Speaker 13: ascendance see of this in the chapter on the Case
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  Speaker 13: for Israel. It was actually at the Democratic Convention in
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 13: twenty twelve that support for Israel was brought to a vote,
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  Speaker 13: and the delegates at the convention thunderously voted.
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  Speaker 4: It down, but then the chair gabbled it otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Antonio via Radosa, I remember it well.
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  Speaker 4: You remember it was remarkable, and so this is actually
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  Speaker 4: not new.
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  Speaker 13: I saw it when I was in the House Representatives
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  Speaker 13: from Afar, when I was governor, when I was when
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: I was governor of Indianna, we passed the toughest anti
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: BDS bill of any state in the country. And of course,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 13: being being part of the Trump Pens administration, our support
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 13: for Israel. I witnessed it uh in the Democratic Party,
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  Speaker 13: and it just has to be confronted because it appears
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 13: that the Democratic Party is incapable of confronting rank anti
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 13: semitism in their midst And you see that that candidate
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 13: in New Jersey. You see the rhetoric of candidates in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: Michigan and around the country as well as incumbents who've
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 13: who've who've been using anti Semitic tropes in public statements.
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  Speaker 4: But thanks for acknowledging.
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  Speaker 13: I also think we have to be honest that on
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 13: the populous right there has been a rising courus questioning
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 13: America's historic alliance and support for Israel and UH and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 13: that often slides into the into the darker corridors of
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 13: anti Semitic rhetoric.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we have to reject it whole cloth.
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  Speaker 13: I've said many times I'll say again on the U
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  Speaker 13: Hewett Show today. If the world knows nothing else, the
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  Speaker 13: world should know this. America stands with Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Am and well put in the book, and I think persuasive.
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  Speaker 1: I want to close by telling you about Iran. In
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: the book, you write about the Chinese Menuatce, the Russian minutes,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: the Iranian menace, the North Korean menace, the Venezuelan menis
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: about the last year. President Trump was correct to act
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: against Maduro.
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  Speaker 4: He ever a right to do so.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to the Iranian menace. I'm frustrated
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  Speaker 1: by where we are right now. I want to finish
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  Speaker 1: up the job. What do you think of the President's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: current plan and posture. I love the fact he went
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: after him. I love that the Blockadi is working, but
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: they're going to shoot Americans pretty soon they're going to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: get a lucky one off. What should the President do
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  Speaker 1: about this? What would you be advising him if you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: were back in the administration about Iran right now?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if I was.
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  Speaker 13: Still working in the West Wing, I'd wait till everybody
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  Speaker 13: left the room, like I always would do you, and
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  Speaker 13: after the door shut, I would tell the President, I'm
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 13: praying for you to have wisdom, but I believe we
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 13: need to finish the job. There's an old saying that
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 13: one does not make peace with one's enemy. One makes
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 13: peace with one's defeated enemy. And given the arrogance and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 13: the posturing and even the firing of missiles in the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 13: last twenty four hours by the Iranians, I sense that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 13: they don't quite understand that they have been defeated. I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 13: give the President all the credit in the world for
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 13: unleashing our military against the nuclear sites last year, and
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 13: unleashing our armed forces for the first time really in
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 13: this administration, right to the heart of global terrorism in Iran.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: After forty seven years of Iran, through.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 13: Its proxies, waging war on the United States and Israel,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 13: we finally took the fight directly to them, and history
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 13: will record and commend President Trump for doing so. They'll
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 13: also record that in that month of combat operations, our
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 13: troops responded brilliantly in Operation Epic Fury.
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  Speaker 4: And I truly do believe.
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  Speaker 13: Unless Iran comes to the table and yields on abandoning
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 13: its nuclear program and dismantling it, dismantling its missile program, entirely,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 13: giving up support for terrorist proxies across the region, and
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 13: opening the strait, and I would advise the President of
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 13: the United States that let our armed forces do what
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 13: they can do and open the strait and defeat our
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 13: enemy on our terms and contribute to the peace and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 13: security of the world and the security of America and Israel.
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  Speaker 1: So last question, mister Vice, we have one minute. I
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: know you have to talk with Missus Pence about this,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: but is what conservatives believe the first step then another
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  Speaker 1: run for the presidency by you in twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I'm always flattered when I'm asked, but if you
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  Speaker 13: you may recall it, I actually ran for president in
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 13: twenty twenty three, not so where you'd notice you It
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 13: was a pretty SHORTCAF pay. But you know, we don't
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 13: see that door open for US. But you know, I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 13: like that Lukecolm song that says I wrote that rocket about.
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  Speaker 4: As far as it applied.
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  Speaker 13: But you know, for me, my calling right now is
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 13: simply to be a champion of the conservative principles that
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 13: have always made America strong and prosperous and free. I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 13: specifically have a passion to speak to the rising generation
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 13: about these principles and values.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why I wrote what conservatives.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Plead, and that's what conservatives believe. Do go and get
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  Speaker 1: the book, and get Amazon bonds and Noble Weber books
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  Speaker 1: are sold. Thanks President Mike Pence, always a pleasure. You
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: will always welcome on the You Huite Show. Thank you
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: so much for your time.