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SPEAKER_04: All right, welcome to another installment of Gas Money.
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SPEAKER_04: We are back in the pan.
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SPEAKER_04: We got Zap in the building.
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SPEAKER_03: We have Red in the building.
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SPEAKER_03: We got Sir Chubbs in the building.
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SPEAKER_03: You already know I'm here.
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SPEAKER_03: And this is the Gas Money Podcast.
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SPEAKER_03: We got H D Link around.
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SPEAKER_03: Around here somewhere.
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SPEAKER_06: You know what?
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SPEAKER_06: You know what?
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SPEAKER_04: You know what?
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SPEAKER_04: We're going to start it the right way.
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SPEAKER_04: Good morning, everybody.
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SPEAKER_04: This is DJ.
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SPEAKER_04: No, we're not doing that.
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SPEAKER_04: I still have not been introduced, but I can still introduce myself.
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SPEAKER_04: Who are you?
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SPEAKER_04: I'm AG.
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SPEAKER_04: The undisputed champion.
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SPEAKER_04: AG.
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SPEAKER_04: Champion of what?
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SPEAKER_04: Of everything.
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SPEAKER_04: Just pick one.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm there.
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SPEAKER_04: Pick it.
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SPEAKER_04: Champion of feminism.
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SPEAKER_04: Champion of Black Lives Matter.
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SPEAKER_04: Actually, not really that.
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SPEAKER_06: But the champion of Black Lives Matter.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm the champion of all.
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SPEAKER_06: Making out a t-shirt.
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SPEAKER_04: Undisputed king of everything.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, my ego's large enough to carry this podcast, apparently.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: Really?
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SPEAKER_03: So fuck red is what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_03: Not just you, my division.
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SPEAKER_04: Fuck everybody.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just, you know.
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SPEAKER_04: So how's your guys' weekend?
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SPEAKER_04: It was cool, cool, cool.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, it was the end of the week.
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SPEAKER_04: It was pretty alright.
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SPEAKER_04: Nah, I was with you, nigga.
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SPEAKER_04: So you was with me one day.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was enough.
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SPEAKER_04: It really was.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean it's an artist showcase.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, rap music is a very sad and scary place.
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SPEAKER_04: Um it can be.
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SPEAKER_04: It can be.
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SPEAKER_04: It is.
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SPEAKER_04: I was the it can be type of guy until this weekend.
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SPEAKER_04: I was like, nah, it is.
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SPEAKER_04: It's here.
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SPEAKER_04: This is what Now is talking about all these years ago.
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SPEAKER_04: Depending on whose mouth about raping now.
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SPEAKER_04: It's not dead.
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SPEAKER_04: It's like it's a zombie at this point.
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SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't recognize it much.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, you need like a gimmick.
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SPEAKER_04: Like you must have a gimmick.
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SPEAKER_04: You have to coon.
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SPEAKER_04: You have a niche.
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SPEAKER_04: You have to cool.
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SPEAKER_03: You don't have to cool.
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SPEAKER_03: You literally have to tap dance.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, if you don't have a dance with computer.
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SPEAKER_03: You have to uh subscribe to either coon or you have to have a bunch of fucking face tats and rainbow-colored colored hair.
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SPEAKER_04: Are you talking about somebody in particular?
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SPEAKER_03: I don't, I'm not talking about anyone in particular.
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SPEAKER_03: I just happened to know a few hoes with the same problems.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_06: All I'm gonna say is Bad beauticians?
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SPEAKER_05: Yep, them two.
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SPEAKER_05: All I'm gonna say is, after seeing this showcase, I realized one thing.
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SPEAKER_05: It was a shit show?
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SPEAKER_05: It wasn't a shit show.
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SPEAKER_05: It was three good performances.
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SPEAKER_05: There were three performances to me, there were four performances.
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unknown: Jesus.
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SPEAKER_05: But there was one, you know, my little cousin performed, and I give it to him.
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SPEAKER_05: He had a good performance, he brought energy.
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SPEAKER_06: I was gonna say I was in the front.
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SPEAKER_05: It's not biased.
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SPEAKER_05: I feel like I didn't even see nothing.
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SPEAKER_05: Then you had some little kids that performed.
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SPEAKER_05: They brought the whole young dancing energy aspect.
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SPEAKER_05: They bodied it.
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SPEAKER_05: That I give them.
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SPEAKER_05: Then there was a female, she came on stage with two girls, two of her friends, and they brought energy.
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SPEAKER_05: She bodied it.
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SPEAKER_05: I'll give it to them.
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SPEAKER_05: Then her name.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know her name.
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SPEAKER_05: She had orange shirt on.
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SPEAKER_05: She had on shirt.
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SPEAKER_05: She looked like she wasn't.
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SPEAKER_05: Then my man's casino orange is bars, Jeff was good.
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SPEAKER_03: The L work.
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SPEAKER_05: In my opinion.
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SPEAKER_05: It wasn't my fault.
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SPEAKER_05: You only seen three of the four that I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna lie to you.
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SPEAKER_04: I stopped listening halfway through.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: It was a good day, though.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what my beef is with showcases?
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SPEAKER_03: A lot of artists who choose to perform don't have perform-worthy songs.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: And I don't want to sit up here and listen to you about listen to your stories about selling crack over beats when it doesn't.
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SPEAKER_03: Wrong error.
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SPEAKER_03: It's doing crack now.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, it's like you're not.
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SPEAKER_03: You want something to do crack?
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SPEAKER_03: No, that's what they're doing now.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what they're doing now.
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SPEAKER_03: Because our error, we we we were the hustlers.
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SPEAKER_03: We were selling the drugs, but new kids are using the fucking drugs.
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SPEAKER_06: They don't all have to fall into one stereotype.
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SPEAKER_06: But you're not understanding what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_05: What are you basically saying?
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SPEAKER_05: Rap about your life.
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SPEAKER_05: Rap about what they're selling crack.
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SPEAKER_04: What I'm saying is none of them niggas don't know crack.
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SPEAKER_04: I know none of them selling crack.
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SPEAKER_04: None of them was talking about telling crack.
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SPEAKER_04: It's a different showcase.
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SPEAKER_04: They're talking about using crack, like opiums, and you know.
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unknown: Listen.
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SPEAKER_05: I ain't heard one of them say they pop Z and that's what the fuck them niggas be doing.
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SPEAKER_03: I was just speaking about people in performance-worthy songs.
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SPEAKER_03: Not everybody's been to different showcases, and everyone who performs at showcases does not have performance-worthy songs.
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SPEAKER_03: I know you have people up there who are talking about selling crack, this, that, and the third when that doesn't mesh with a vibe that you're trying to give the crowd.
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SPEAKER_03: Now I can understand, I can understand if you're that nigga and everybody knows your songs, and you happen to throw that one in an air because it's a fucking crowd favorite or something.
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SPEAKER_03: But nigga, we don't know you.
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SPEAKER_03: We don't want to hear your garbage bars about you slinging some stepped on fucking some stepped on fucking.
- 4:55
SPEAKER_04: I think this is really bad.
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SPEAKER_06: He was dead.
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SPEAKER_06: He paid$25 to get in.
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SPEAKER_06: He was very upset.
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SPEAKER_06: Excuse me.
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SPEAKER_06: You went to a showcase and you paid$25 and was upset.
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SPEAKER_04: When niggas pay to go to these things?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, nigga.
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SPEAKER_05: Why do you think I was charging out the door?
- 5:09
SPEAKER_05: What?
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SPEAKER_05: They were charging people to get in yesterday.
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SPEAKER_05: Plus their heart.
- 5:12
SPEAKER_05: Which to me was a fucked up situation.
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SPEAKER_05: Because niggas bought tickets and the open ball was still you gotta pay at.
- 5:17
SPEAKER_06: Hey bro, I just make you good individuals.
- 5:20
SPEAKER_04: This is why niggas shoot promoters, man.
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SPEAKER_06: I had a bulletproof vest on yesterday.
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SPEAKER_04: That's not bulletproof, man.
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SPEAKER_06: You don't know.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, rough riders.
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SPEAKER_04: We not we we not even want to talk about that.
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SPEAKER_04: Name three rough riders, please.
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SPEAKER_06: Actually, I'm not gonna.
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SPEAKER_06: Name three rough riders.
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SPEAKER_06: DMX, DMX, DMX.
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SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
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SPEAKER_04: You missed dialogue number one.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_03: Fuck this zap.
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SPEAKER_03: How old do you?
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SPEAKER_06: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_06: 25.
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SPEAKER_03: Name three Rough Riders other than DMX.
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SPEAKER_06: DMX.
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SPEAKER_06: DMX.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: DMX.
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SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_06: That wasn't even my time frame.
- 5:56
SPEAKER_04: His favorite rapper is Lil Baba.
- 5:59
SPEAKER_06: Everybody's just a whole different brand.
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SPEAKER_04: I hate that nigga's front of Lil Baba.
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SPEAKER_04: Like he wasn't the nigga when we was, you know, 11.
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SPEAKER_04: Nah, no, nigga.
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SPEAKER_04: Little Baba.
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SPEAKER_04: He wasn't when we listen, man.
- 6:20
SPEAKER_04: That was a dumb argument.
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SPEAKER_04: Romeo over Bow.
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SPEAKER_04: Romeo must die.
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SPEAKER_04: That's a little Romeo.
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SPEAKER_03: Fuck Bow.
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SPEAKER_03: That nigga write his own music.
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SPEAKER_03: It don't matter.
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SPEAKER_04: It does.
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SPEAKER_04: It does.
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SPEAKER_05: You know why I say fuck Bailey?
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know write her own music.
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SPEAKER_03: It doesn't take a talent to recite lyrics that somebody else wrote for you.
- 6:41
SPEAKER_04: No, it's Quentin Miller, Drake.
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SPEAKER_04: Point proof.
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SPEAKER_04: Aren't you a Drake fan?
- 6:46
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, because it sounds different from two different sources.
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SPEAKER_04: Listen, man.
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SPEAKER_04: Delivery is important.
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SPEAKER_04: Everybody has the skill to deliver the thing.
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SPEAKER_05: Peep me with the rob.
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SPEAKER_05: You can do it.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, he even said he had terrible terrible delivery.
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SPEAKER_05: You can you can do it, hold on.
- 7:05
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_05: Can you do it?
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SPEAKER_05: I can say the shit he says.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, so why don't you try to play the single?
- 7:12
SPEAKER_05: Because I don't got pink hand and look like a fucking idiot.
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SPEAKER_06: That's no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_06: No, no.
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SPEAKER_04: You have to be able to perform.
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SPEAKER_04: You can go on the stage and perform his same song, and it's not gonna come out the same.
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SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a question.
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SPEAKER_05: So why did he admit he has terrible deliveries?
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SPEAKER_05: He has terrible records, but he don't know why the Bro, he's a fucking troll!
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unknown: Still doesn't matter.
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unknown: His someone likes his product.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, somebody like it.
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SPEAKER_06: Someone likes his product.
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SPEAKER_06: Someone likes his product, a.
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SPEAKER_06: the voice in the room.
- 7:43
SPEAKER_06: So what?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I'm gonna bring this back to exactly what I was talking about initially.
- 7:47
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't take talent to fucking to reread some lyrics that someone wrote for you versus when he tried to make the point of Rihanna.
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SPEAKER_03: Rihanna's a singer.
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SPEAKER_03: It's different.
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SPEAKER_03: Everyone can't sing.
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SPEAKER_03: That's true.
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SPEAKER_03: But guess what?
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SPEAKER_03: If I wrote some shit for you and told you how to deliver it and you did it, you did it.
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SPEAKER_03: But you can't, you can't write, you can't write music and tell you listen.
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SPEAKER_03: You can't I can't give you Rihanna's song and say sing it.
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SPEAKER_03: And expect you to, but you can go out there and scream some fucking 6ix9ine lyrics and it'll be a high.
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SPEAKER_01: So Red, are you saying it's not a talent to be able to perform something that's given to you?
- 8:31
SPEAKER_03: Performing, performing, but you have to look at the caliber of the performance.
- 8:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm not talking Bow Wow's performance is not Beyonce or Lil Wayne's performance.
- 8:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:43
SPEAKER_01: Um everybody knows that's all.
- 8:49
SPEAKER_01: But you said um Bow Wow, Beyonce's.
- 8:52
SPEAKER_03: I just said I I just I I just said that.
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SPEAKER_03: Well Lil Wayne writes his own shit.
- 8:55
SPEAKER_03: I just said that.
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SPEAKER_01: Not all of it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm a I'm a Lil Wayne fucking fan.
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SPEAKER_01: You ain't gonna tell me what's going on.
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SPEAKER_04: Whoa, what music one music he didn't write?
- 9:04
SPEAKER_04: What?
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SPEAKER_04: What songs he didn't write?
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SPEAKER_01: If you if you check the how he went through different different groups, like when he went through when he was fucking with Philly, when he was fucking with Dipset, you can see those changes in his music as well.
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SPEAKER_04: Pre-Carter III Lil Wayne don't matter.
- 9:17
SPEAKER_01: Let's just be real.
- 9:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying Lil Wayne don't do his own shit, but there's no way that he puts out that much shit.
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SPEAKER_01: And you think all of it all the way shit.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know what I don't think.
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SPEAKER_06: And you know why?
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SPEAKER_06: And you know why?
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SPEAKER_06: Because he has the talent to do so.
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SPEAKER_06: He has the talent to recite.
- 10:17
SPEAKER_06: We've we've all we've all look, we've all seen straight out of Compton, right?
- 10:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 10:22
SPEAKER_06: Say it like this.
- 10:24
SPEAKER_04: Stop hitting the table.
- 10:27
SPEAKER_04: That was a good episode, DJ.
- 10:30
SPEAKER_06: But look, it had it had to be recited a certain ways several times.
- 10:35
SPEAKER_04: And then at a certain point, Izzy E can only say it.
- 10:38
SPEAKER_04: Ice Cube can only say certain songs.
- 10:40
SPEAKER_04: Yes or no?
- 10:41
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go out on the limb and say although most of those West Coast rappers is overrated.
- 10:45
SPEAKER_04: That's just my opinion.
- 10:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh, well, we're gonna spark another conversation where, hey.
- 10:51
SPEAKER_04: Of this specific of my specific statement or this whole topic right now about the ocean.
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SPEAKER_04: Talent.
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SPEAKER_04: Showcasing, rap.
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SPEAKER_04: Performing as a talent.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: From two thousand and five?
- 11:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 11:36
SPEAKER_04: Whoa, whoa, what?
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SPEAKER_05: So we can't say fifty?
- 11:39
SPEAKER_04: Well, what does fifty have to do with young money?
- 11:41
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm just saying, can we say fifty?
- 11:42
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, nigga.
- 11:47
SPEAKER_04: It was it was first mixtape or first album.
- 11:53
SPEAKER_04: Because it was detailed in this.
- 11:55
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
- 11:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's debatable.
- 11:58
SPEAKER_04: That debatable needs something that we have debatable bookmark.
- 12:01
SPEAKER_04: No Google check.
- 12:02
SPEAKER_04: Google Check when somebody came onto the scene.
- 12:05
SPEAKER_04: French Montana was in those fucking thank you.
- 12:07
SPEAKER_04: Like in the mobility of the Google check.
- 12:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:13
SPEAKER_04: I need a benchmark.
- 12:18
SPEAKER_04: What does come out mean?
- 12:19
SPEAKER_05: What does come out does come out mean?
- 12:28
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait.
- 12:29
SPEAKER_05: We gotta look at the money.
- 12:31
SPEAKER_02: We gotta look at the Google check.
- 12:32
SPEAKER_02: We have a Google check.
- 12:34
SPEAKER_04: Google check says what would you say 50 cents first hit is?
- 12:36
SPEAKER_04: I would say in the club.
- 12:37
SPEAKER_04: Yes or no?
- 12:38
SPEAKER_04: Hit was like hit.
- 12:40
SPEAKER_04: Hit um.
- 12:43
SPEAKER_03: Rob in the industry is what got him on the fucking.
- 12:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay, how to rob.
- 12:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was on the mixtape.
- 12:48
SPEAKER_04: That was his first hit.
- 12:49
SPEAKER_04: That was on a mixtape.
- 12:50
SPEAKER_04: So we count the mixtape.
- 12:51
SPEAKER_04: That was 50's first hit.
- 12:52
SPEAKER_04: But I'm saying, I still don't know.
- 12:53
SPEAKER_04: How do you define hit though?
- 12:54
SPEAKER_04: You see, this is just a little bit.
- 12:55
SPEAKER_05: Are we counting mixtape?
- 12:56
SPEAKER_05: That's what broke him in.
- 12:58
SPEAKER_05: I understand though.
- 12:58
SPEAKER_05: That doesn't make it a hit though.
- 12:59
SPEAKER_05: But no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_05: Listen what I'm saying.
- 13:01
SPEAKER_05: Listen what I'm saying.
- 13:01
SPEAKER_05: Listen to what I'm gonna ask you carefully.
- 13:05
SPEAKER_05: When you say come out, are you talking about now he got his song on the radio coming out, or he brought an appeal to a big crowd come out?
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SPEAKER_05: Because there's a difference between getting your song on the radio and getting a foot in the door to getting two feet in the door and jumping in.
- 13:23
SPEAKER_03: So when when I say define coming out or whatever, I'm talking about when you popped.
- 13:29
SPEAKER_03: When you know what I'm saying, like when you came onto the scene, when you know, when did you become relevant in the arena of hip hop?
- 13:38
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 13:40
SPEAKER_03: That type of shit.
- 13:40
SPEAKER_04: I just think it would be a better argument if we can literally have a set definition for come out.
- 13:46
SPEAKER_04: Like if we say first project, everybody had a first project.
- 13:50
SPEAKER_04: Because you can't really pinpoint some people's first success because like look at an artist like Nicki Minaj.
- 13:54
SPEAKER_04: She released music, then she went down south, and then she popped.
- 13:57
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so so do you want to say first project project?
- 13:59
SPEAKER_03: First project is a is a much easier barometer.
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SPEAKER_03: First project since 2005, top yeah ten from New York.
- 14:05
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna lose it.
- 14:06
SPEAKER_05: Wait, top ten from New York?
- 14:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you just give me ten from New York.
- 14:10
SPEAKER_05: That's hard though.
- 14:10
SPEAKER_05: That's hard, though.
- 14:11
SPEAKER_05: No, we're not doing this now.
- 14:12
SPEAKER_03: We're not doing this now.
- 14:13
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do this off.
- 14:14
SPEAKER_03: But I'll give you ten artists.
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SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_03: Top since two thousand five.
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SPEAKER_03: You doing the West, right?
- 14:20
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing the West.
- 14:22
SPEAKER_05: So first project, the first project dropped after 2005.
- 14:26
SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna we're gonna basically base it off of the relevancy to the game.
- 14:32
SPEAKER_03: Right today.
- 14:33
SPEAKER_03: Like, okay, we're gonna be.
- 14:34
SPEAKER_04: I'm already putting Davies on that list, but we can talk about it.
- 14:36
SPEAKER_04: You can't represent New York.
- 14:37
SPEAKER_04: Because if you put Davies on the list, we might as well lose right now.
- 14:40
SPEAKER_04: Well, he did pop after 2005.
- 14:43
SPEAKER_04: Well, he popped pop after 2005, yeah.
- 14:46
SPEAKER_04: He popped.
- 14:47
SPEAKER_04: Niggas in the West Coast know who Davies is?
- 14:49
SPEAKER_04: The thing is.
- 14:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he did a whole video, 30 niggas in the West Coast.
- 14:52
SPEAKER_05: Are you crazy?
- 14:53
SPEAKER_05: Only because of Nipsey Hustle.
- 14:54
SPEAKER_03: Holy so, see.
- 14:55
SPEAKER_06: All right, well, I think.
- 14:56
SPEAKER_06: But don't I say has more fame because of his looks than his own.
- 15:01
SPEAKER_06: So you're a bad.
- 15:02
SPEAKER_06: He's more of an image as a whole career.
- 15:05
SPEAKER_04: So you're a batsiman.
- 15:06
SPEAKER_04: You think he looks nice.
- 15:07
SPEAKER_04: Like I see.
- 15:07
SPEAKER_04: No, no.
- 15:08
SPEAKER_04: He's not ugly.
- 15:08
SPEAKER_04: You personally think he's not like with the hair last week.
- 15:11
SPEAKER_04: I'm just asking you personally, Zap.
- 15:12
SPEAKER_04: Do you know what I mean?
- 15:13
SPEAKER_04: You with the hair last week, right?
- 15:14
SPEAKER_04: It's not a loaded question.
- 15:15
SPEAKER_04: It's really a yes or week.
- 15:16
SPEAKER_04: It's a yes or no look.
- 15:17
SPEAKER_04: I can't hear you.
- 15:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't think he's an ugly person.
- 15:19
SPEAKER_04: Wait, do you do you think he looks nice?
- 15:21
SPEAKER_04: Cool, yeah.
- 15:22
SPEAKER_04: Do you think he looks nice?
- 15:23
SPEAKER_04: I don't have nothing to complain about.
- 15:24
SPEAKER_04: Do you think he looks nice?
- 15:25
SPEAKER_04: I said yeah.
- 15:26
SPEAKER_04: Alright, thank you.
- 15:27
SPEAKER_04: This nigga gay.
- 15:30
SPEAKER_03: But I'm gonna be real with you.
- 15:32
SPEAKER_03: You s when when when you say Dave East or whatever, I see more females post pictures of him than I do niggas post lyrics or music of his.
- 15:44
SPEAKER_05: I'll give that to you.
- 15:45
SPEAKER_05: I'll give that to you.
- 15:46
SPEAKER_05: Dave East can rap his ass off.
- 15:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't want I don't know nobody to take that away from this podcast and we don't think he can rap.
- 15:51
SPEAKER_04: He can rap his fucking asshole.
- 15:52
SPEAKER_04: But this is the music business, it's not the rap 3D rap business, you know.
- 15:56
SPEAKER_05: But I want to start now into our topics.
- 15:59
SPEAKER_05: I want to segue into a very, very, I feel gonna be funny topic.
- 16:04
SPEAKER_05: Maybe it's with the Robin.
- 16:05
SPEAKER_05: Because it's starting up again.
- 16:08
SPEAKER_05: We got YG versus 69 again.
- 16:11
SPEAKER_05: Now he's gonna take the L.
- 16:13
SPEAKER_05: You posted it out.
- 16:16
SPEAKER_05: You want to speak about this?
- 16:17
SPEAKER_05: The floor is yours.
- 16:21
SPEAKER_06: Wow, that was I didn't even realize I forgot that was his song, first of all.
- 16:24
SPEAKER_03: I honestly don't really have too much to say about this because if you want to be real about it, YG really didn't say anything about him.
- 16:34
SPEAKER_03: It was the Breakfast Club dragging it out of it.
- 16:37
SPEAKER_03: And he said, Yeah, I said what I said when I said it.
- 16:40
SPEAKER_03: And I said it.
- 16:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 16:42
SPEAKER_03: He said it.
- 16:43
SPEAKER_03: He said it months ago.
- 16:45
SPEAKER_03: And after he said what he said, that was it.
- 16:48
SPEAKER_03: He never brought it up again until he's doing the press run.
- 16:51
SPEAKER_03: So of course it's gonna come up, but he was like, Man, I don't even want to.
- 16:54
SPEAKER_03: So you saw he was being passive about it.
- 16:56
SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't even want to get into that.
- 16:57
SPEAKER_03: So then they like, oh fuck it.
- 16:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, well, no, you said ask us questions.
- 17:00
SPEAKER_03: So you're like, I go ask him.
- 17:01
SPEAKER_03: So what about this?
- 17:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, I said what I said.
- 17:04
SPEAKER_03: That was it.
- 17:05
SPEAKER_03: That was back in March.
- 17:06
SPEAKER_03: Said a little bit of that.
- 17:07
SPEAKER_03: So for him to be like, oh, you're using my name to promote your album, like fam, I didn't even mention you.
- 17:14
SPEAKER_04: Now let me ask you a question.
- 17:15
SPEAKER_04: Did you watch it?
- 17:16
SPEAKER_04: Did you like that?
- 17:17
SPEAKER_04: I don't think that was verbatim.
- 17:18
SPEAKER_04: Did you watch it?
- 17:18
SPEAKER_04: Because I feel like he said a little bit after After it was already brought up.
- 17:23
SPEAKER_03: Okay, but he says after the Breakfast Club brought it up.
- 17:27
SPEAKER_03: He didn't bring it up.
- 17:28
SPEAKER_06: All you gotta say is, hey man, I don't want to talk about that.
- 17:30
SPEAKER_03: Is YG a gang member?
- 17:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 17:32
SPEAKER_04: Is 69 a gang member?
- 17:33
SPEAKER_04: Allegedly.
- 17:34
SPEAKER_04: Okay, see, that's the first thing I wanted to kind of put out there.
- 17:37
SPEAKER_04: Allegedly.
- 17:38
SPEAKER_04: How many suck my dicks do you allow to get you know thrown your way?
- 17:42
SPEAKER_04: None.
- 17:43
SPEAKER_05: Before None.
- 17:44
SPEAKER_05: Hey, yo, Chubb, suck my dick.
- 17:47
SPEAKER_05: Come see me after the podcast, bitch.
- 17:48
SPEAKER_05: Before it comes ahead right there.
- 17:51
SPEAKER_05: Hey, yo, that's not a right.
- 17:52
SPEAKER_04: You guys are like leaping over the point I'm trying to make.
- 17:54
SPEAKER_03: Um so leaping over the point to fucking invite each other to your genitals.
- 17:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I already we already proved he's gay.
- 18:00
SPEAKER_04: No, we just proven that he's gay.
- 18:01
SPEAKER_04: So it's a half-gay podcast.
- 18:02
SPEAKER_04: Nothing wrong with that.
- 18:03
SPEAKER_04: No, there's something wrong with that.
- 18:04
SPEAKER_03: But uh so they these two would be the cues in that whole thing, the queers.
- 18:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
- 18:10
SPEAKER_04: So, how many like where does YG draw the line as gang member suck my dick?
- 18:16
SPEAKER_04: Because I I know quite a few gang members and suck my dick website.
- 18:20
SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, but let's be real.
- 18:22
SPEAKER_04: Celebrity gang members.
- 18:23
SPEAKER_04: Let's be real.
- 18:23
SPEAKER_04: Nah, we said he's a real one.
- 18:24
SPEAKER_03: Let's let's say real, let's be clear.
- 18:31
SPEAKER_03: How many times has in the past six months or the past four months, how many times has YG been to New York?
- 18:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 18:39
SPEAKER_03: I don't really find it.
- 18:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he's been there.
- 18:41
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say like once.
- 18:41
SPEAKER_03: He's been here twice.
- 18:42
SPEAKER_03: He's been here twice within the the la the first time after this shit initially happened, he was here with his artist Limphanic.
- 18:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I know that guy.
- 18:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, yeah.
- 18:50
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 18:51
SPEAKER_03: Like everything was whatever.
- 18:53
SPEAKER_03: But my thing was, the times that they was here, this guy was nowhere really on social media.
- 18:58
SPEAKER_03: He was nowhere.
- 19:00
SPEAKER_03: Is this speculation or is this actual factual?
- 19:02
SPEAKER_03: This is actual factual.
- 19:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 19:03
SPEAKER_03: Um because the first time it was when he was supposedly studying for his GED.
- 19:07
SPEAKER_03: So coincidentally he was in, you know, wherever.
- 19:10
SPEAKER_05: Well, that had to be that was proven though.
- 19:12
SPEAKER_05: That was proven because the court did say that if he went to school, got his GED, or whatever, the court could go.
- 19:18
SPEAKER_03: But this but this last court proceeding, what did you find out?
- 19:21
SPEAKER_03: That he in fact did not get his GED.
- 19:24
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 19:25
SPEAKER_03: So bringing it back to the beginning, nigga, was you really studying?
- 19:29
SPEAKER_03: You probably went and failed.
- 19:31
SPEAKER_03: Listen, listen.
- 19:33
SPEAKER_03: He's a troll, bro.
- 19:34
SPEAKER_03: I can't take anything that he says seriously, and I have to look at everything from a fucking What you're giving.
- 19:43
SPEAKER_04: So are we just as YG, you're just gonna allow the Well, okay, so now I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this back.
- 19:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna bring this back here.
- 19:50
SPEAKER_03: My dude, I pull up on your turf.
- 19:52
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 19:53
SPEAKER_03: You got beef with me, you got is it's whatever.
- 19:55
SPEAKER_06: So I'm supposed to pop first.
- 19:57
SPEAKER_03: Fam, I pulled up on your turf.
- 19:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm here.
- 19:59
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so wait, wait, wait.
- 20:01
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 20:02
SPEAKER_03: Okay, wait, wait, wait.
- 20:02
SPEAKER_03: Not to even get that.
- 20:04
SPEAKER_03: He was in the right.
- 20:05
SPEAKER_03: YG's in real time.
- 20:06
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 20:06
SPEAKER_03: YG's in real time.
- 20:07
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 20:08
SPEAKER_03: This dude, he's, he's, he's playing weird.
- 20:11
SPEAKER_03: And he does, and it's been proven on more than one occasion.
- 20:14
SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's true in different areas.
- 20:15
SPEAKER_03: But let me say you cannot say that.
- 20:17
SPEAKER_03: Let me ask you a question.
- 20:17
SPEAKER_03: And when you're hiding behind security, it's different.
- 20:21
SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a question.
- 20:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 20:22
SPEAKER_05: Fair argument.
- 20:23
SPEAKER_05: You now, you see how you said he pulled up on his turf, but then you had to go to that extent now, it's time zone when you came.
- 20:31
SPEAKER_05: That shouldn't matter.
- 20:33
SPEAKER_05: You see how you said YG came here.
- 20:35
SPEAKER_05: Nothing happened.
- 20:36
SPEAKER_05: Now AG said AG said 6ix9ine went there, but it's real time zone.
- 20:40
SPEAKER_05: YGO.
- 20:41
SPEAKER_04: Nah, what 6ix9ine was doing, he would post like he's in LA right now, but that was from a week ago or a week ago.
- 20:47
SPEAKER_05: Now let me ask you a question.
- 20:48
SPEAKER_05: I'd be like, pull up, but he's not really there right now.
- 20:50
SPEAKER_05: I get what you're saying.
- 20:51
SPEAKER_05: YG is like, okay, I'm here right now, I'm here right now.
- 20:53
SPEAKER_05: At the end of the day.
- 20:54
SPEAKER_03: We had this conversation before.
- 20:55
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to get back into it about the whole semantics of you being and and and if niggas is really in the hood, then they're gonna see you whatever time you pull up.
- 21:03
SPEAKER_03: It don't really work like that in real life.
- 21:06
SPEAKER_03: But listen, at the end of the day, niggas is on two different coasts.
- 21:10
SPEAKER_03: That's why YG reposted the video, said, yo, I can't wait to meet you, Taylor.
- 21:14
SPEAKER_03: Simple as that.
- 21:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm not going back and forth with you, fam.
- 21:17
SPEAKER_04: How does this end?
- 21:20
SPEAKER_03: It's just YG, um, let it end.
- 21:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, fam, I see what I see you.
- 21:26
SPEAKER_03: So that extra shit, like, it's just for the internet.
- 21:28
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:29
SPEAKER_03: This whole shit is fake.
- 21:31
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:31
SPEAKER_03: He's a troll.
- 21:33
SPEAKER_04: So do you see violence coming out of this at all?
- 21:36
SPEAKER_03: If niggas are in the same vicinity and bump into each other, absolutely.
- 21:44
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 21:45
SPEAKER_05: See, me, I'm more see it going like this.
- 21:47
SPEAKER_05: If he really does this one to three, I see it being more of his career's over there.
- 21:52
SPEAKER_05: I feel it being more of niggas in the set in the hole that fuck with YG is gonna fuck him up.
- 21:58
SPEAKER_05: That's what I see happening.
- 21:59
SPEAKER_05: I don't see Anything coming from Young.
- 22:02
SPEAKER_05: He's not going to be in PC no more.
- 22:05
SPEAKER_03: Any real member is, you know what I'm saying?
- 22:09
SPEAKER_03: On him for misrepresentation anyway.
- 22:11
SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't know if you can say that, because what do we consider Treyway and the Billys that he runs with?
- 22:17
SPEAKER_05: Because he's connected with a lot of dudes in my neighborhood that are quote unquote real gangbangers.
- 22:21
SPEAKER_05: But we'll say that, but then it's the same nigga that you're talking about that robbed him.
- 22:25
SPEAKER_05: According to him.
- 22:26
SPEAKER_05: Allegedly.
- 22:27
SPEAKER_04: And how we figured out that that could potentially be a hundred percent false because now he has all his shit back.
- 22:33
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
- 22:36
SPEAKER_04: I can't prove it.
- 22:36
SPEAKER_04: I can prove it.
- 22:37
SPEAKER_04: Jewelry feed it, it has to be a good thing.
- 22:38
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 22:39
SPEAKER_05: If you look at the jewels he has now, there's stuff that wasn't there before.
- 22:43
SPEAKER_05: Wait, so hold on.
- 22:44
SPEAKER_05: Can I just stop you for a second?
- 22:45
SPEAKER_04: So you you're into jewelry, right?
- 22:47
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 22:48
SPEAKER_04: So if I take my Rolex that's already busted down, and I bust it down some more, that's a new Rolex?
- 22:53
SPEAKER_04: No, but you can't no.
- 22:54
SPEAKER_04: But this is one thing.
- 22:55
SPEAKER_04: If I got a different piece.
- 22:57
SPEAKER_04: So it's a different style, you're telling me?
- 22:59
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 22:59
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 23:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 23:00
SPEAKER_04: I didn't look at it.
- 23:01
SPEAKER_04: There's stuff like something different to each different piece.
- 23:04
SPEAKER_04: This is a 10 minute thing.
- 23:05
SPEAKER_04: You see, that is a good thing.
- 23:06
SPEAKER_04: No, that is different.
- 23:07
SPEAKER_04: That is different.
- 23:08
SPEAKER_04: You're confusing my argument.
- 23:09
SPEAKER_04: If you look at two tone, it's two.
- 23:10
SPEAKER_04: It's two-tonal.
- 23:11
SPEAKER_04: These are these these are things you can do post.
- 23:13
SPEAKER_04: If I buy.
- 23:15
SPEAKER_05: So okay, so I'm gonna put all those meticulous diamonds in it and I'm gonna take them out.
- 23:18
SPEAKER_05: You can absolutely now let me ask you a question.
- 23:20
SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a serious question.
- 23:21
SPEAKER_05: Let me ask you a serious question because I have let me ask you a question because I have insight to people that know about the situation, spoke to me about the situation.
- 23:32
SPEAKER_05: About what situation?
- 23:35
SPEAKER_05: Him getting his shit taken.
- 23:36
SPEAKER_05: But now let me ask you this.
- 23:38
SPEAKER_05: So you spoke.
- 23:39
SPEAKER_05: Allegedly.
- 23:40
SPEAKER_05: Not the robbers, not the robbers.
- 23:41
SPEAKER_05: It's all word of mouth.
- 23:42
SPEAKER_05: It's all speculation, allegedly.
- 23:43
SPEAKER_05: But let me ask you a question.
- 23:45
SPEAKER_05: You really think that now if I buy a chain from the dude from um what's that movie that he has?
- 23:52
SPEAKER_05: The movie, the chain that he got with the guy that told him the new unit from Saw.
- 23:56
SPEAKER_05: He bought that piece.
- 23:57
SPEAKER_05: Jigsaw.
- 23:58
SPEAKER_05: Before the mouth didn't go up and down, it didn't have no colored teeth.
- 24:01
SPEAKER_05: It didn't have color teeth.
- 24:02
SPEAKER_06: It didn't have colored teeth.
- 24:03
SPEAKER_06: It didn't went up and down.
- 24:04
SPEAKER_06: It was the whole gag.
- 24:05
SPEAKER_05: Now you get this new one.
- 24:07
SPEAKER_05: It's bigger one.
- 24:09
SPEAKER_06: It's a different jewelry.
- 24:11
SPEAKER_05: The whole whole jaw has colored teeth like how he has now.
- 24:15
SPEAKER_05: And it's very small, but it's different.
- 24:18
SPEAKER_03: I just want to um I'm on the side of that it actually is new jewelry.
- 24:23
SPEAKER_03: That's what I've seen pictures of the I've seen pictures of the comparison.
- 24:26
SPEAKER_03: It is different.
- 24:26
SPEAKER_03: So you believe it's a good idea.
- 24:28
SPEAKER_03: The links themselves are different.
- 24:29
SPEAKER_03: I believe they're like one originally was like gold, and this one is like a gold.
- 24:34
SPEAKER_03: Rose gold and direct gold.
- 24:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, that you can't change.
- 24:42
SPEAKER_03: That that I do agree with.
- 24:44
SPEAKER_03: Um he probably did have the insurance on it.
- 24:48
SPEAKER_03: And you know, whatever.
- 24:50
SPEAKER_05: Now, from insight that told me of situations, one of his right-hand mans basically robbed him or whatever.
- 24:57
SPEAKER_05: And they was basically putting me on that now.
- 24:59
SPEAKER_05: If you really look, that group of people that they claim to rob him is no longer in his videos, no longer affiliated with them.
- 25:07
SPEAKER_05: And he had also posted in his story.
- 25:09
SPEAKER_05: He didn't have a video out.
- 25:11
SPEAKER_05: What do you mean?
- 25:11
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 25:11
SPEAKER_05: What video?
- 25:12
SPEAKER_05: He made a whole hood video and he just recorded in the hood with a bunch of people.
- 25:17
SPEAKER_05: I was on his Instagram and everything.
- 25:18
SPEAKER_05: I want to get back to the point that we're making is And he told him niggas suck suck his dick on Instagram live.
- 25:24
SPEAKER_04: So are the people in his camp real gangbangers or not?
- 25:27
SPEAKER_04: That's that was the thing.
- 25:29
SPEAKER_04: I feel like they are.
- 25:30
SPEAKER_05: I feel like they are, and I feel like they were just it's just like what Red said a couple weeks before.
- 25:34
SPEAKER_04: Red is saying that if you're if you're affiliated anyways, like you but you have to understand this.
- 25:40
SPEAKER_03: Just like anything, it's about money.
- 25:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 25:42
SPEAKER_03: Look.
- 25:43
SPEAKER_03: So understand.
- 25:44
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 25:45
SPEAKER_03: Like it's it's it he listen.
- 25:49
SPEAKER_03: I called it uh I called it, I I predicted, my prediction was when this whole thing, you know, gets out of control, or this whole thing, you know, gets to a point where, you know, it's too much for the people around him because of the pressure of the cops and this, that, and the third, like shut down.
- 26:10
SPEAKER_03: Is he still is he allowed to do that?
- 26:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's allowed to perform in New York City and uh of the states basically.
- 26:16
SPEAKER_05: He's good and clear now.
- 26:20
SPEAKER_03: Um I just think that the uh you know, like this whole jail situation is definitely throwing a monkey wrench in everything that he has going on.
- 26:32
SPEAKER_05: I see what you're saying.
- 26:34
SPEAKER_06: There was like to be a monkey wrench in anybody's life.
- 26:36
SPEAKER_04: Can we talk about the the court case, the new one that uh has arrived?
- 26:40
SPEAKER_03: So basically what's going on is the DA is pushing for him to do one to three because of the two incidents um that occurred.
- 26:53
SPEAKER_03: Uh part of his deal um of a suspended sentence is what I'm you know recommended to read about and to find out about is what he had.
- 27:04
SPEAKER_03: Um within that two years he was supposed to get his GED, um, which they allege that he still has yet to do.
- 27:10
SPEAKER_03: Um they said that he was wasn't supposed to be arrested.
- 27:13
SPEAKER_03: He said he's been arrested twice since that, and now they're actually um they said that he he was uh 17 at the time and they're adamant about the fact that no, he was actually 18 at the time, and they went into the register as a second factor.
- 27:33
SPEAKER_05: Now let me ask you a question.
- 27:34
SPEAKER_05: Do you think that like everything had first looked at the target?
- 27:42
SPEAKER_05: Because I have some people that say, you know, he'd be the target because you're putting the target on your own back.
- 27:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's no way they're targeting him from the beginning because who the fuck was 6ix9ine?
- 27:52
SPEAKER_04: 6ix9ine this 6ix9ine.
- 27:54
SPEAKER_05: Thanks for the adult.
- 27:55
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
- 27:56
SPEAKER_05: After he got the fame, everybody a lot of people saying like now they like just pick it up.
- 28:00
SPEAKER_05: Because I heard one of the instances where he got locked up, he was doing a music video, and it was something that Well he didn't get locked, he didn't get when he was doing that music video, he wasn't get locked up.
- 28:08
SPEAKER_06: He got detained and moved to a different location because there was about 300 niggas on a block in Brooklyn.
- 28:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I heard that was something for his protection, actually.
- 28:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but that counts as interaction with an officer, so that's part of now you're not supposed to interact with all of the other things.
- 28:23
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, I mean police, police contact, whatever, but if but if he was never actually taken to a precinct and booked, then it's different.
- 28:30
SPEAKER_05: Well, he got taken to the precinct, then transported to a different area.
- 28:34
SPEAKER_03: But if he didn't get booked, then your information is wrong, not asking.
- 28:40
SPEAKER_05: No, no, I know like when you have like court cases, you can't have any contact.
- 28:44
SPEAKER_03: But but guess what?
- 28:46
SPEAKER_03: Like, if the police don't report it, it's not contact.
- 28:48
SPEAKER_05: It's not one of the reports that they bring up in court.
- 28:51
SPEAKER_03: Nah, the one that they're bringing up in the hands in the court.
- 28:53
SPEAKER_03: They're bringing up the hand situation.
- 28:54
SPEAKER_04: What did he do in the hand situation?
- 28:58
SPEAKER_04: Red nose.
- 28:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, no, I allegedly um when he was arrested for I don't know what it was, um one of the officers alleged that he squeezed that the 6ix9ine squeezed his hand too hard.
- 29:12
SPEAKER_03: While he was resisting.
- 29:13
SPEAKER_03: While he was resisting arrest or something.
- 29:18
SPEAKER_03: The other one is the um the Houston case of where he choked the kid.
- 29:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
- 29:22
SPEAKER_06: Why'd he choke the kid?
- 29:23
SPEAKER_04: The kid that ran up on him and he's trying to become famous by calling him a pedophile to his face.
- 29:28
SPEAKER_06: That's not defense.
- 29:30
SPEAKER_06: No.
- 29:30
SPEAKER_06: No, because he didn't just go around choking a kid.
- 29:32
SPEAKER_06: He didn't beat him put his hands on the face.
- 29:33
SPEAKER_05: You kids can't just anybody I want to call him a pedophile.
- 29:36
SPEAKER_05: I can do that right now.
- 29:36
SPEAKER_05: That's by law.
- 29:37
SPEAKER_05: I have freedom of speech.
- 29:38
SPEAKER_06: I could but in my face, I don't I can't, I don't feel threatened to get it.
- 29:42
SPEAKER_03: So now so now they're looking at it because they're charging him as an adult.
- 29:45
SPEAKER_03: He's 21.
- 29:46
SPEAKER_03: So the kid was like 13, right?
- 29:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, some young ass kid.
- 29:50
SPEAKER_03: He has injuries.
- 29:51
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, the injuries too.
- 29:53
unknown: Yeah.
- 29:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:54
SPEAKER_03: You got you um, I don't know how I don't know how serious.
- 29:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, like when you're fair skinned, like you know, a lot of the gentlemen in the room, when somebody touches you, you get bruised up.
- 30:03
SPEAKER_05: I'm calling y'all soft or anything.
- 30:04
SPEAKER_05: So once there's bruises, yeah, you're getting charged, man.
- 30:06
SPEAKER_05: It's just like if I get into a fight with somebody and they get bruised, you could get charged.
- 30:10
SPEAKER_03: Right, but what I'm saying is, boom, that was another form of police contact.
- 30:14
SPEAKER_03: And they actually uh issued a warrant for his arrest.
- 30:17
SPEAKER_03: They got him.
- 30:18
SPEAKER_03: And he had to and he went to Houston to uh turn himself in.
- 30:22
SPEAKER_03: Turn himself in and be uh be seen at first.
- 30:24
SPEAKER_04: I just don't think it's I just don't think you should be able to run upon somebody.
- 30:26
SPEAKER_04: So is can his career survive one to three years in a box?
- 30:30
SPEAKER_04: No.
- 30:30
SPEAKER_04: No, no.
- 30:31
SPEAKER_06: All right, he's done.
- 30:32
SPEAKER_04: That momentum would be down.
- 30:33
SPEAKER_03: It's just like Bobby and Riley.
- 30:34
SPEAKER_03: And he said, when he goes into jail, when he goes into jail, he's gonna be computers is like the national anthem for black people.
- 30:40
SPEAKER_06: I would say swag surf.
- 30:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 30:42
SPEAKER_04: What's the national anthem?
- 30:43
SPEAKER_04: Say computers.
- 30:45
SPEAKER_04: This isn't New York.
- 30:46
SPEAKER_05: No, no, because what I was saying, I just don't feel it's just like Bobby and Riley.
- 30:49
SPEAKER_05: I don't feel like when they come out, even though they're saying it's only two more years, they're gonna be the same.
- 30:54
SPEAKER_05: Like that heat is not gonna be there.
- 30:55
SPEAKER_05: That's the flame, that everybody's gonna wait for them.
- 30:58
SPEAKER_05: They're gonna put out a song.
- 30:59
SPEAKER_06: They're gonna first of all, they're gonna get booking for the first five months just because of the fact that they are.
- 31:08
SPEAKER_06: Of course, but they're gonna get that first five months of booking, bread.
- 31:11
SPEAKER_03: Can we can we you know go further back into you know the possibilities of now you're gonna be one of three?
- 31:17
SPEAKER_03: That means you're gonna one to three is state time.
- 31:19
SPEAKER_03: That's you know, felony any anything, you know, over a year, you're going upstate.
- 31:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he might not be able to when he gets off.
- 31:28
SPEAKER_03: I just going upstate, depending on where you're going, you know what I mean?
- 31:34
SPEAKER_03: You're really gonna A have to be in PC or you're gonna be paying people.
- 31:39
SPEAKER_06: I really just don't think he's even going to jail.
- 31:41
SPEAKER_06: Because one, it's illegal to talk about anything court matters, first of all.
- 31:47
SPEAKER_05: Yes, but no.
- 31:48
SPEAKER_06: Secondly, he's making like if they're focusing on his Instagram or how he actually whatever, he's literally posting up videos about how not to drop the soap.
- 31:58
unknown: Yeah, he's trolling his court case.
- 32:00
SPEAKER_03: Right, I understand that.
- 32:01
SPEAKER_03: So you don't like if I don't want to go to jail, like you don't think that the judges and all of that see that?
- 32:08
SPEAKER_06: I understand that, but judges it's just weird how everything's playing out.
- 32:13
SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
- 32:14
SPEAKER_04: So you think this is a troll too?
- 32:16
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 32:16
SPEAKER_05: Possibly.
- 32:18
SPEAKER_05: Because this is my thing.
- 32:19
SPEAKER_05: Okay, now he gets one to three years and he got to register.
- 32:22
SPEAKER_05: Is that the normal sentence?
- 32:24
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 32:25
SPEAKER_05: Like, if you if somebody else gets caught with that, oh, they get a one to three boundary.
- 32:29
SPEAKER_05: They're not telling me he has to serve three.
- 32:32
SPEAKER_03: One to three, yeah.
- 32:32
SPEAKER_03: So I guess serve one of those.
- 32:35
SPEAKER_03: Lawyer money goes a long way, but you have to understand that regardless of what happens, like, there's certain things that you just can't get away from.
- 32:44
SPEAKER_03: Lil Wayne, who has all the money in the world, had to go and do eight months on Rikers Island.
- 32:50
SPEAKER_03: Mandatory.
- 32:51
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 32:52
SPEAKER_03: Like, he couldn't get he couldn't get out of that.
- 32:54
SPEAKER_03: Anybody else, anybody else, it's what, like minimum three years with with a pistol in New York?
- 33:01
unknown: Yeah.
- 33:01
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so you get what I'm saying?
- 33:03
SPEAKER_03: Like, money plays a big uh a big uh factor in it.
- 33:06
SPEAKER_03: Of course, these guys got the m the stamina to be in court.
- 33:09
unknown: This is what I'm gonna say.
- 33:10
unknown: When Lil Wayne went, was he in VC?
- 33:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 33:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he was.
- 33:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay, because he was fucking one of the COs.
- 33:17
SPEAKER_03: He was definitely in VC.
- 33:18
SPEAKER_05: Once he went in, it was like uh I guess a gap where it was just a dead issue.
- 33:23
SPEAKER_05: And then he came out and it's like everybody just knowing everything.
- 33:26
SPEAKER_04: Nah, it wasn't a dead issue.
- 33:27
SPEAKER_04: Um they was talking about how he was fucking the CEO, how Drake fucked one of his bitches, and then Drake went to him to apologize for there's a lot of there's a lot of shit.
- 33:34
SPEAKER_05: They say he was fucking the CO this and dirt.
- 33:36
SPEAKER_05: Now as an average Joe goes in, they say, even though I get eight months for some bullshit.
- 33:42
SPEAKER_05: I get called with a fucking CO, fucking the CO, I'm getting more time.
- 33:45
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
- 33:46
SPEAKER_05: So it's like it's just like a lot of shit that was gonna be.
- 33:48
SPEAKER_06: I mean you're not Lil Wayne.
- 33:49
SPEAKER_05: Were you really there?
- 33:50
SPEAKER_06: Or was it just like niggas fuck COs whole time?
- 33:55
SPEAKER_04: Celebrities, it's like they'll say you go in and then it's like you're not really in one nigga you're gonna be able to do it.
- 34:00
SPEAKER_06: All right, so me, so Meek Mill wasn't in jail.
- 34:03
SPEAKER_04: What are you what are you saying?
- 34:04
unknown: Okay, you brought up a point.
- 34:06
unknown: You said Meek Mill was in jail.
- 34:07
unknown: You see how when Meek Mill went in, everything was just like people going to court, just seeing everything.
- 34:12
SPEAKER_05: With a lot of these celebrities, there's nothing in between that you see.
- 34:16
SPEAKER_03: But unless you're not gonna be able to say niggas don't want people taking it.
- 34:19
SPEAKER_03: Unless you're going to jail for some real huge crime.
- 34:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
- 34:23
SPEAKER_03: A lot of tax fraud.
- 34:24
SPEAKER_03: Like Wayne Wayne was really in Rikers, you know what I'm saying?
- 34:28
SPEAKER_03: He was really on Rikers.
- 34:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, you don't see it because it's not major news.
- 34:33
SPEAKER_03: They don't want you to, you know what I'm saying?
- 34:34
SPEAKER_03: Like, certain things don't draw money or draw a certain crowd or the ratings, you know what I'm saying?
- 34:41
SPEAKER_03: Certain things doesn't matter.
- 34:43
SPEAKER_03: Right now, it's already just established.
- 34:46
SPEAKER_03: How many episodes has this guy's name come up on?
- 34:50
SPEAKER_03: Every one.
- 34:51
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 34:52
SPEAKER_03: So, you know what I'm saying?
- 34:53
SPEAKER_03: It's it's controversy, controversy.
- 34:56
SPEAKER_03: Right now, that's drawing records, I mean, drawing um views and hits and all of that stuff.
- 35:02
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, it's it's it's it's marketing, but I don't I I don't um doubt that this whole thing with the DA and all that shit is I don't doubt that that's real.
- 35:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't doubt, you know, yeah, I don't doubt that's real.
- 35:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't think that is fake at all.
- 35:20
unknown: Now in that one to the three, do you see there's any possibility of like early parole and early or like after that?
- 35:27
SPEAKER_03: That is completely up to the judge at that point.
- 35:30
SPEAKER_03: So they didn't say anything about it.
- 35:31
SPEAKER_03: They didn't say anything.
- 35:32
SPEAKER_03: He has to go back um when?
- 35:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh I think they said in October or some shit.
- 35:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 35:38
SPEAKER_03: So he like basically that was that what was presented before them, like that's all they know so far?
- 35:45
SPEAKER_03: Or that he's looking at a little bit of a not even guaranteed.
- 35:48
SPEAKER_03: It was basically it was it was like one of those, like, we're setting the tone.
- 35:51
SPEAKER_03: This is what you're looking at.
- 35:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is what we want.
- 35:53
SPEAKER_03: Right, this is what we want.
- 35:54
SPEAKER_03: So his lawyers now they gotta they gotta play hardball.
- 35:58
SPEAKER_03: Everybody gotta play ball, man.
- 36:00
SPEAKER_03: And it goes back up to the whole thing, like I just don't think he's going to jail.
- 36:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, you in the hood still, and you have notoriety, some sort of fame.
- 36:09
SPEAKER_03: You're putting money aside for a lawyer for whatever because you know what you're attached to, you know what you're affiliated with, you know the possibilities of getting in trouble, catching the case.
- 36:20
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 36:21
SPEAKER_04: Let's not forget who he's signed to.
- 36:24
SPEAKER_04: That dude has convictions.
- 36:26
SPEAKER_06: No, Trey Way's is man that's oh, the the um the guy who's brother with the Chicago guy he's gonna be cool.
- 36:32
SPEAKER_04: He's gonna have his lawyers, he's gonna be cool, but I don't think his career if he goes and sits down on the box, his career ends right there.
- 36:39
SPEAKER_04: And that's my opinion.
- 36:40
SPEAKER_03: You think if he doesn't want to put his career?
- 36:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna put it to you this way.
- 36:43
SPEAKER_03: If he has to do any more than a year, then it's over.
- 36:47
SPEAKER_04: That's why I think I say a year he's done.
- 36:49
SPEAKER_04: I said like I'll say it might not be the same type of rabbit in a year.
- 36:52
SPEAKER_03: If he comes right, right, but I'm saying if he comes, if he comes back in a year, it's obvious he has a he has his little cult following.
- 37:03
SPEAKER_03: They're gonna they're gonna wait for him.
- 37:05
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 37:08
SPEAKER_04: Like every other day, they have a new guy to run behind.
- 37:11
SPEAKER_04: So if Six Nine disappears, a lot of people only fuck with him because of the trolling thing.
- 37:14
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of these.
- 37:17
SPEAKER_03: That they only fuck with him because he's putting pressure on these niggas next.
- 37:21
SPEAKER_03: He's dead.
- 37:22
SPEAKER_04: So once the pressure stops, why am I gonna support him?
- 37:24
SPEAKER_04: Because the music is not enough for me to support him.
- 37:26
SPEAKER_04: But now this is my thing.
- 37:28
SPEAKER_03: What is your what is your thing?
- 37:29
SPEAKER_03: Even if after the year, right?
- 37:31
SPEAKER_05: And him not trolling, what do you see happening just to music itself?
- 37:36
SPEAKER_05: Who's gonna be the next up or who's gonna he's up in New York he is?
- 37:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm talking about in New York, like who's who the fuck is that?
- 37:44
SPEAKER_04: Pick a name out of the hat.
- 37:46
SPEAKER_04: I don't know what's going on with New York, man.
- 37:48
SPEAKER_05: Who's really gonna be?
- 37:50
SPEAKER_04: A Boogie.
- 37:51
unknown: It's just like, but think about A-Buggy's out now.
- 37:53
SPEAKER_05: And in my opinion, I feel like today's kids now, even A-Buggy taking on Bat Burns at 6'9.
- 37:59
SPEAKER_05: That that's really because you could go on Instagram, you could go on Facebook, you could go whatever.
- 38:02
SPEAKER_05: There's gonna be something a 6ix9ine before you see A Boogie East.
- 38:06
SPEAKER_05: Any New York rabbit is gonna be a before East.
- 38:09
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
- 38:10
SPEAKER_05: So it's just like who's gonna who's gonna take that as a torch?
- 38:13
SPEAKER_05: Who's gonna take the pedestal?
- 38:15
SPEAKER_06: Cardi B.
- 38:17
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B.
- 38:17
SPEAKER_04: Don't care about to be cooked too.
- 38:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:19
SPEAKER_04: How?
- 38:19
SPEAKER_04: Because Nicki Minaj dropped fucking the Queen's.
- 38:22
SPEAKER_04: First of all, Queen is trash.
- 38:23
SPEAKER_04: Whoa, but no, it's not.
- 38:24
SPEAKER_04: But it is, it is, it is, it is.
- 38:26
SPEAKER_06: Nicki Minaj is trash in general.
- 38:28
SPEAKER_04: But then you see, what yeah?
- 38:30
SPEAKER_04: Who said it?
- 38:31
SPEAKER_04: Who's your favorite rappers?
- 38:33
SPEAKER_04: You know who my favorite is.
- 38:34
SPEAKER_04: It's Paul Pierce.
- 38:35
SPEAKER_04: The one that got Jack caught in there and that Bruce Jack.
- 38:38
SPEAKER_04: Jack and the bars.
- 38:39
SPEAKER_04: But that's what I'm saying.
- 38:40
SPEAKER_04: Like, can you Cardi B.
- 38:42
SPEAKER_04: Can we transition into Cardi B versus Nicki Minaj?
- 38:45
SPEAKER_04: The Barbie shit?
- 38:46
SPEAKER_04: Because 6'9 is done.
- 38:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 38:48
SPEAKER_04: Nikki dropped the album.
- 38:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a complete dead issue.
- 38:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't really care about that.
- 38:51
SPEAKER_04: Nikki.
- 38:51
SPEAKER_04: So can we talk about the Queen of Rap being back?
- 38:53
SPEAKER_04: Can we talk about that?
- 38:54
SPEAKER_04: She's back?
- 38:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:55
SPEAKER_04: She's trash.
- 38:56
SPEAKER_05: Did you ever hear what she did to that Biggie B?
- 38:58
SPEAKER_04: Just to Nikki.
- 38:59
SPEAKER_04: First of all, I was just playing.
- 39:01
SPEAKER_04: And what's the point of the song?
- 39:03
SPEAKER_04: That's the point.
- 39:04
SPEAKER_06: Nah, bro.
- 39:04
SPEAKER_06: I'm fucking playing.
- 39:05
SPEAKER_06: That song was okay.
- 39:06
SPEAKER_06: And I'm still with that.
- 39:08
SPEAKER_06: As usual, when you read too deep into shit.
- 39:11
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
- 39:11
SPEAKER_04: It was a big one.
- 39:12
unknown: What?
- 39:14
SPEAKER_06: Why are you reading too deep into shit?
- 39:16
SPEAKER_06: I'm playing with you guys.
- 39:17
SPEAKER_06: Like, come on.
- 39:18
SPEAKER_04: What is your problem with the album?
- 39:20
SPEAKER_04: Nicki just trash, bro.
- 39:22
SPEAKER_04: She gives you everything.
- 39:22
SPEAKER_04: She gave you Bro, she just washed up.
- 39:24
SPEAKER_04: Just save it.
- 39:26
SPEAKER_04: In terms of what?
- 39:27
SPEAKER_04: Like her rapping ability.
- 39:27
SPEAKER_04: You think Cardi B outraps Nicki Minaj?
- 39:30
SPEAKER_06: Oh, this is not Cardi B Nick anything.
- 39:31
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying.
- 39:32
SPEAKER_06: I'm asking you a question.
- 39:33
SPEAKER_06: No, but I'm just saying.
- 39:34
SPEAKER_04: So then what how is she washed up to the city?
- 39:36
SPEAKER_03: So then who's the top female of the game?
- 39:38
SPEAKER_03: In the game?
- 39:38
SPEAKER_06: Lil Kim.
- 39:39
SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
- 39:40
SPEAKER_04: Lil Kim's not washed up?
- 39:41
SPEAKER_04: Wait, Lil Kim is the top female rapper?
- 39:45
SPEAKER_06: No, but Nicki Minaj, I really just don't like Nicki Minaj.
- 39:47
SPEAKER_06: Nicki Minaj is not.
- 39:48
SPEAKER_06: Nicki asked you some questions, bro.
- 39:50
SPEAKER_04: The pressure's on.
- 39:51
SPEAKER_03: Who's the top female in the game?
- 39:55
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B.
- 39:57
unknown: Oh my god.
- 39:57
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B is Cardi B is way better than Nicki Minaj right now.
- 40:00
SPEAKER_04: At what?
- 40:00
SPEAKER_04: At what?
- 40:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like I say, rapping about what are we talking about here then?
- 40:10
SPEAKER_06: I just feel like she's putting out an up.
- 40:12
SPEAKER_06: I'm putting I feel like she's putting out an overall better product than Nicki Minaj's right now.
- 40:17
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 40:19
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 40:19
SPEAKER_04: Um the the record that we're talking about is called Barbie Dreams, and basically she's on the record rapping about everybody having sex with dudes in the industry.
- 40:29
SPEAKER_04: Like and it's a joke song.
- 40:31
SPEAKER_04: Like she like takes jabs on a lot of these dudes, like she takes jabs at 50.
- 40:35
SPEAKER_04: She takes a Meek, which is funny that Khaled.
- 40:38
SPEAKER_06: The Meek thing was the best part of that story.
- 40:41
SPEAKER_04: All of these dudes.
- 40:42
SPEAKER_04: Treyway, she didn't even take shots of East.
- 40:44
SPEAKER_04: Yes, she did.
- 40:44
unknown: Yes, she did.
- 40:45
SPEAKER_04: It was the first bar.
- 40:46
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's not a shot.
- 40:47
SPEAKER_04: All of the the whole song is shots.
- 40:49
SPEAKER_06: Okay, she said if I can have a kid, I want a sprinkle of Davies.
- 40:51
SPEAKER_06: Relax.
- 40:52
SPEAKER_06: Come on.
- 40:53
SPEAKER_06: You listen to that?
- 40:54
SPEAKER_06: Yes, I did.
- 40:54
SPEAKER_06: So how is that a shot?
- 40:55
SPEAKER_06: That's the whole shit.
- 40:56
SPEAKER_06: Literally, when you read it, everybody's like, oh, Davies is one of the only niggas she didn't say anything bad about.
- 41:00
SPEAKER_04: She said something.
- 41:01
SPEAKER_04: It's the point that she's saying something about any of them.
- 41:03
SPEAKER_04: That's the point.
- 41:04
SPEAKER_06: She said, if she can make a nigga, she would want a little nigga number one.
- 41:07
SPEAKER_04: That's a kid.
- 41:07
SPEAKER_04: She said a kid.
- 41:08
SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
- 41:08
SPEAKER_06: I would want a little sprinkler of Davies.
- 41:10
SPEAKER_04: She's just taking shots at everyone.
- 41:11
SPEAKER_04: How's that a shot?
- 41:12
SPEAKER_04: It's not a negative shot.
- 41:13
SPEAKER_04: It's just a shot.
- 41:14
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm targeting these people.
- 41:16
SPEAKER_06: So you could take positive shots now?
- 41:17
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 41:18
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 41:19
SPEAKER_06: Continue.
- 41:20
SPEAKER_04: She's just a nigga without taking a positive shot.
- 41:22
SPEAKER_04: Positive shot.
- 41:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna take a positive shot.
- 41:26
SPEAKER_06: Magic.
- 41:28
SPEAKER_06: You looked good in that outfit.
- 41:31
SPEAKER_05: I think you're a copin, but everybody knew you looked trash.
- 41:33
SPEAKER_05: Y'all niggas are just good.
- 41:35
SPEAKER_05: This is good.
- 41:37
SPEAKER_03: Anyways.
- 41:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you lost me on that one.
- 41:39
SPEAKER_04: He's good.
- 41:40
SPEAKER_04: Um so the point I'm trying to make is it's a great record.
- 41:43
SPEAKER_04: You're trying to say it's not.
- 41:44
SPEAKER_04: No, no, that's the only song in the album I like.
- 41:46
SPEAKER_04: I mean, Chung Lee was out already.
- 41:48
SPEAKER_04: I think this album put Nicki Minaj back in the place that she needed to be.
- 41:51
SPEAKER_04: She didn't do any gimmicky things to me.
- 41:53
SPEAKER_04: She rapped her ass off on the album.
- 41:56
SPEAKER_04: And that's just my two cents.
- 41:57
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how.
- 41:59
SPEAKER_05: Why shouldn't you come at Remy though?
- 42:01
SPEAKER_04: Oh well, that's you don't bark up a tree, you're gonna lose.
- 42:04
SPEAKER_05: That's my thing.
- 42:05
SPEAKER_05: You mentioned everybody else.
- 42:06
SPEAKER_05: Why didn't you mention Remy?
- 42:07
SPEAKER_05: Because she does not want to smoke a Remy.
- 42:08
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
- 42:10
SPEAKER_03: At the end of the day, you don't you don't argue down.
- 42:16
unknown: Okay.
- 42:17
SPEAKER_03: And not saying that Remy is beneath her lyrically or whatever, because I honestly don't know.
- 42:22
SPEAKER_03: I never really listened to Remy.
- 42:24
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, that's why Drake didn't argue with 6ix9ine.
- 42:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 42:29
SPEAKER_03: But you know what I'm saying?
- 42:30
SPEAKER_03: There's just certain things like, well, I'm I even you know what I'm saying?
- 42:33
SPEAKER_05: But now, okay, if I'm one of these artists, right, and just for shits and giggles, I'll make a comeback.
- 42:38
SPEAKER_04: Just for shits and giggles, just for the shits and giggles.
- 42:42
SPEAKER_05: No, people have responded to her.
- 42:43
SPEAKER_05: Not on record, like tweeted back at her.
- 42:46
SPEAKER_05: But that's what I'm saying.
- 42:46
SPEAKER_05: On record, I'm gonna say, I'll just make a single like the same way she said I'm just playing, I'll make a just playing song back.
- 42:51
SPEAKER_05: Now, the people that you named on this record are all people that even if they make a bullshit record, they'll fuck your career up.
- 42:58
SPEAKER_04: But the like on the album.
- 43:02
SPEAKER_05: But that's what I'm saying.
- 43:03
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, I'm just saying they made like a joke.
- 43:05
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know how you know how people could say, alright, let's just have a joke and parody battle or whatever the case.
- 43:09
SPEAKER_06: But the thing is, you can't it's only with so much joke you can do before it gets serious.
- 43:13
SPEAKER_06: Like if Meek Mill said something back, then everybody's gonna take it serious.
- 43:16
SPEAKER_04: He's the only person that I feel was actual hostility.
- 43:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I don't know behind the scenes how their relationship is.
- 43:23
SPEAKER_05: So nah, they they they said before that they're good.
- 43:25
SPEAKER_05: How do you know that?
- 43:26
SPEAKER_05: Because she's been on interviews and said, like, real shit, like she doesn't have a problem with either Drake or have you ever dated a girl saying, I don't know, I'm uh spot, it's a different thing.
- 43:36
SPEAKER_05: It's just during that time, she felt like it was something that it didn't need to be.
- 43:40
SPEAKER_05: And she said she's friends with both of them.
- 43:42
SPEAKER_05: There's no no hell.
- 43:44
SPEAKER_04: I want to point this out to you guys, especially Zap.
- 43:46
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B was trending on Twitter the day that the album dropped.
- 43:50
SPEAKER_04: Cardi B tweeted, Hey y'all, why am I trending?
- 43:54
SPEAKER_04: And she was trending because all of Nikki's fans were basically saying, uh, we we want to hear something now.
- 43:59
SPEAKER_04: Like Where's the rebuttal?
- 44:00
SPEAKER_04: Where's your project?
- 44:02
SPEAKER_04: A rebuttal?
- 44:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 44:03
SPEAKER_04: She just dropped the album.
- 44:04
SPEAKER_04: And it was garbage.
- 44:05
SPEAKER_04: Okay, it's just garbage?
- 44:06
SPEAKER_04: No, to them and me.
- 44:08
SPEAKER_04: And then, you know.
- 44:09
SPEAKER_06: The fact the fact that you just pro-Southside.
- 44:12
SPEAKER_03: The fact that she really gets pushed by the industry for you know, okay, whatever she's performing or whatever, but like I just don't respect You don't respect Cardi B.
- 44:26
SPEAKER_03: I respect the hustle.
- 44:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree with you.
- 44:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't respect the gimmick.
- 44:32
SPEAKER_03: I think she should have just been an Instagram comedian and made her money doing that shit.
- 44:34
SPEAKER_03: But she gotta be a rapper.
- 44:35
SPEAKER_03: At the same time, you're not gonna pour syrup on a shoe and I'm sorry, you're not gonna pour syrup on shit.
- 44:43
SPEAKER_03: And call it a pancake.
- 44:45
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna say shit.
- 44:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 44:46
SPEAKER_03: You don't pour syrup on shit and call it a pancake.
- 44:48
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:49
SPEAKER_03: Like, it just doesn't equate that way.
- 44:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't know where it's a shit.
- 44:54
SPEAKER_04: Sweet shit.
- 44:54
SPEAKER_04: I don't know where he's going with it.
- 44:56
SPEAKER_03: But what I mean is, you know, you're not gonna sit there and say, oh, her album was this and her album was that and this, that, and the third.
- 45:03
SPEAKER_03: Really, it was.
- 45:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, I'm curious to know as a true artist, how much did she put into it?
- 45:11
SPEAKER_03: She just performed.
- 45:13
SPEAKER_03: That's my thing.
- 45:14
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:18
SPEAKER_03: A person is more likely a person is more likely to be a better performer than a better artist.
- 45:30
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:31
SPEAKER_03: Like the artist, the person who comes up with the lyrics and like that's the true talent.
- 45:36
SPEAKER_03: You know, we can train just about anybody.
- 45:40
SPEAKER_03: You can train a dog.
- 45:41
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:42
SPEAKER_03: So Carnival's a dog.
- 45:43
SPEAKER_03: You can train anybody.
- 45:44
SPEAKER_03: But look, going back to the part earlier, look at the dog to do whatever it is that you want them to do.
- 45:49
SPEAKER_03: So it's like what did you really put into the look?
- 45:53
SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:54
SPEAKER_06: But look, not to cut you off.
- 45:56
SPEAKER_06: But you did get it.
- 45:57
SPEAKER_06: There's different types of dogs.
- 45:59
SPEAKER_06: You can't teach a shih tzu the same thing you can teach a husky.
- 46:02
SPEAKER_06: Yes or no?
- 46:03
SPEAKER_05: Yes, I could teach them to roll over and give me a shit.
- 46:06
SPEAKER_06: Okay, no, no, no, no.
- 46:07
SPEAKER_06: Go go tell a shihtsu to go hunt down a bird.
- 46:09
SPEAKER_06: What what?
- 46:10
unknown: What?
- 46:10
SPEAKER_06: Or go fishing?
- 46:11
SPEAKER_06: What?
- 46:12
SPEAKER_06: It's the same thing, it's the same type of dog.
- 46:13
SPEAKER_06: They have different types of builds, they have different types of abilities.
- 46:16
SPEAKER_04: I don't even think huskies are hunting dogs, but I'm just I'm just talking about that out.
- 46:22
SPEAKER_03: I get it.
- 46:23
SPEAKER_03: That analogy, I'd say.
- 46:24
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you use the dog analogy, I'm playing off your words, huh?
- 46:27
SPEAKER_04: I know, but not in that sense.
- 46:29
SPEAKER_04: I use a different sense.
- 46:31
SPEAKER_03: Anywho.
- 46:33
SPEAKER_03: That's just my thing.
- 46:34
SPEAKER_03: Like, what is your real contribution to your project?
- 46:38
SPEAKER_03: Bodak Yellow.
- 46:40
SPEAKER_04: Which was not even her flow.
- 46:42
SPEAKER_04: Probably didn't write it.
- 46:44
SPEAKER_04: But that's what I'm asking.
- 46:45
SPEAKER_04: That's the only reason people give a fuck about her.
- 46:47
SPEAKER_04: She makes whole anthems, and there's other women starting to kind of fill the gap.
- 46:51
unknown: What?
- 46:51
SPEAKER_04: So does Scizor.
- 46:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but Scizor has a fucking talent.
- 46:54
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but you just went on some past.
- 46:56
SPEAKER_04: She can sing her anything.
- 46:58
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 46:59
SPEAKER_03: You see?
- 46:59
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 47:00
SPEAKER_06: But you just said that she makes whole anthems, so what was the point of that?
- 47:02
SPEAKER_04: If Scissor makes whole anthem, too.
- 47:04
SPEAKER_03: Because Scizor has a talent.
- 47:05
SPEAKER_04: That's the variable, man.
- 47:06
SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 47:07
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't take much talent to yap out of my fucking mouth.
- 47:10
SPEAKER_04: Hey, go go platinum, bro.
- 47:11
SPEAKER_04: I don't want people to think that I'm a woman hater because I'm a feminist number one.
- 47:14
SPEAKER_04: You say go platinum.
- 47:15
SPEAKER_04: But I don't like seeing low quality.
- 47:17
SPEAKER_03: That's what, bro.
- 47:17
SPEAKER_03: If I had a fucking uh Atlantic Records behind me, I'd get you.
- 47:24
SPEAKER_04: She had Bodak Yellow.
- 47:26
unknown: Okay, bro.
- 47:27
SPEAKER_04: Bodak Yellow is the only reason Cardi B exists to you.
- 47:30
SPEAKER_04: I'm telling you that right now.
- 47:32
SPEAKER_04: The Lick song came out first.
- 47:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I don't think without without that song.
- 47:35
SPEAKER_05: Without Bodak Yellow, nobody would have to do that.
- 47:36
SPEAKER_05: Nobody gives a fuck.
- 47:38
SPEAKER_04: Do they still play that in the club, by the way?
- 47:40
unknown: Yeah.
- 47:40
unknown: Okay.
- 47:41
SPEAKER_04: No, but the city girls are starting to take her lane, man.
- 47:43
SPEAKER_04: They make a lot of whole music too.
- 47:44
SPEAKER_04: They make a lot of whole music.
- 47:45
SPEAKER_04: This this new group of girls.
- 47:47
SPEAKER_05: That's the girl that was from Miami.
- 47:48
SPEAKER_05: I take your man.
- 47:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he was smiling.
- 47:51
SPEAKER_06: First of all, and that's that's I feel like a lot of stuff like what I said in the chat the other day, like a lot of stuff is based off nostalgia.
- 47:57
SPEAKER_06: So if you want to hit just steal something that was done already.
- 47:59
SPEAKER_04: Nah, Joey Badass tried to do that, and he's not as big as he should be.
- 48:02
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but he has a different lane.
- 48:04
SPEAKER_04: Than what?
- 48:05
SPEAKER_04: Than the people making gimmicky rap.
- 48:07
SPEAKER_04: You just said nostalgia.
- 48:08
SPEAKER_04: That was his thing.
- 48:09
SPEAKER_06: Okay, but look, no, I'm saying the type of you can use nostalgia in different ways.
- 48:12
SPEAKER_06: The City Girl six, salt, and pepper shit.
- 48:14
SPEAKER_04: And Joey Badass took the whole boom bab 90s shit.
- 48:16
SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
- 48:17
SPEAKER_06: But it's a different type of delivery.
- 48:20
SPEAKER_04: It's gimmicky.
- 48:21
SPEAKER_04: Yes or no?
- 48:22
SPEAKER_04: Why is one gimmicking and one is borrowing a flow or something?
- 48:25
SPEAKER_04: What makes it a gimmick?
- 48:26
SPEAKER_06: Because Joey Badass has more he has more depth in his music.
- 48:30
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 48:31
SPEAKER_04: So just what if they don't want to make depthful music?
- 48:35
SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm telling you we go to what's going on.
- 48:39
SPEAKER_04: The city girls are not gimmicky?
- 48:41
SPEAKER_04: I don't think they are.
- 48:42
SPEAKER_06: I believe they are.
- 48:43
SPEAKER_04: But what makes them a gimmick?
- 48:44
SPEAKER_04: Are we finished with Nikki's album?
- 48:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, pretty much.
- 48:46
SPEAKER_04: I wanted to move into the the more serious music topic, but I wanna I wanna smoke this nigga first.
- 48:51
SPEAKER_04: So what makes the City Girls a gimmick?
- 48:53
SPEAKER_06: I feel like they're just playing off Ratchet Ho shit.
- 48:55
SPEAKER_04: No, but if that's the music they want to make is fun ratchet hoe music, what makes that again?
- 48:59
SPEAKER_04: That's their gimmick.
- 48:59
SPEAKER_04: That's their niche.
- 49:00
SPEAKER_04: That's not a gimmick.
- 49:01
SPEAKER_04: I think you're confusing what a gimmick is.
- 49:04
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 49:04
SPEAKER_04: Alright, cool.
- 49:06
SPEAKER_04: So, where'd this nigga go?
- 49:09
SPEAKER_04: Who knows?
- 49:10
SPEAKER_04: The dick smoke was more important than being on the mic, apparently.
- 49:12
SPEAKER_04: I can't smoke no more.
- 49:14
SPEAKER_04: So, uh, the final music topic I just want to wrap, because you know, people want to hear us talk about other shit besides this music shit.
- 49:19
SPEAKER_04: This is a more industry insider kind of thing.
- 49:22
SPEAKER_04: So, I don't know if any anybody has listened to the Leo-Cohen interview on uh it's actually his only interview, like a long interview that's you can find.
- 49:34
SPEAKER_04: And because a lot of people don't even know who this guy is.
- 49:36
SPEAKER_04: And I do.
- 49:37
SPEAKER_04: Uh okay, so give us some backstory of Leo Cohen.
- 49:40
SPEAKER_06: Leah Cohen came up during the Rockefeller era, white guy.
- 49:45
SPEAKER_06: Jew.
- 49:46
SPEAKER_03: No.
- 49:46
SPEAKER_03: Is he Jew?
- 49:47
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely Jew.
- 49:47
SPEAKER_03: He is Jewish, yeah.
- 49:48
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so you have to definitely.
- 49:50
SPEAKER_06: And it's actually funny because like hanging out, hanging out No.
- 49:56
SPEAKER_06: Well, no, that's come on.
- 49:57
SPEAKER_03: You guys not get this podcast ain't going nowhere.
- 49:59
SPEAKER_03: You can't make fun of those people though.
- 50:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, absolutely not.
- 50:02
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Shout out to the JDL Shalom.
- 50:04
SPEAKER_04: It's funny because Wish I knew what that was.
- 50:07
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 50:08
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, it's funny because like hanging around a group of friends I hang around.
- 50:15
SPEAKER_04: Tell us about Leo Cohen, man.
- 50:16
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to get hanging around in the groups of friends that you hang around.
- 50:19
SPEAKER_06: Thanks, Red.
- 50:22
SPEAKER_06: They're very close to Leo Cohn because they went to school with his son.
- 50:26
SPEAKER_06: So I would always hear about him before I got to actually know about him.
- 50:32
SPEAKER_06: But going back to the interview, Leo Cohen is a CEO, started 300.
- 50:38
SPEAKER_06: Recolle that signed.
- 50:39
SPEAKER_06: Give us some artists that he signed.
- 50:40
SPEAKER_06: Doug.
- 50:41
SPEAKER_06: Migos was actually on 300 before they got out to QC.
- 50:45
SPEAKER_06: Um T Grizzly is on 300.
- 50:48
SPEAKER_06: He is with Kevin Lyles currently.
- 50:50
SPEAKER_06: Um Rich the Kid is also on 300.
- 50:53
SPEAKER_04: So you can see the type of rappers that this guy was signing.
- 50:56
SPEAKER_06: Kimmickey.
- 50:57
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 50:58
SPEAKER_04: Here goes that word again.
- 50:59
SPEAKER_06: Go ahead.
- 50:59
SPEAKER_06: But then also, I mean, Leo kind of disbanded from 300 and is doing strictly work with YouTube.
- 51:05
SPEAKER_06: And I'm gonna let you talk about TensorFlow now.
- 51:07
SPEAKER_04: So the reason why Leo Cohen's name is being flown around the industry right now is because of some shit about Culture Vulture.
- 51:15
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 51:15
SPEAKER_04: Some shit he said about Dame Dash, who Zap said, you know, Dame Dash, without Dame Dash, there's no Rockefeller.
- 51:21
SPEAKER_04: Jay-Z is not as big as who he is right now.
- 51:23
SPEAKER_04: This is true.
- 51:24
SPEAKER_04: And I'm a Jay-Z fan, I would admit it.
- 51:27
SPEAKER_04: And he said that he does not know who Dame Dash is.
- 51:32
SPEAKER_04: So that sparked the debate of is Leo or Cohen a culture vulture?
- 51:37
SPEAKER_04: So let's unpack this.
- 51:39
SPEAKER_04: What is a culture vulture to begin with?
- 51:41
SPEAKER_04: I want everybody's definition.
- 51:43
SPEAKER_04: A couple words.
- 51:44
SPEAKER_06: Someone stealing something that's not theirs, okay, and using it as their own.
- 51:48
SPEAKER_03: Someone who's appropriating the culture to benefit off of it with zero interest of the culture past, what it can do for them financially.
- 52:01
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 52:04
SPEAKER_04: They're waiting on you, nigga.
- 52:06
SPEAKER_04: Drake.
- 52:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay, the whoa, whoa.
- 52:08
SPEAKER_05: Basically, it's something that's a good thing.
- 52:09
SPEAKER_05: And I'm gonna smoke you right now, unless you know how Drake is out of the culture.
- 52:12
SPEAKER_05: I hate Drake, but he's not a culture culture.
- 52:14
SPEAKER_05: I say something that's out of your culture that's not okay, like something I can say is not you.
- 52:22
SPEAKER_05: It's not in your culture that you came from.
- 52:24
SPEAKER_05: Do you eat Spanish food?
- 52:25
SPEAKER_05: Me?
- 52:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I'm not gonna sit here and try to make Spanish food.
- 52:28
SPEAKER_05: You get what I'm saying?
- 52:28
SPEAKER_04: Wait, why can't I make Spanish food?
- 52:30
SPEAKER_05: What?
- 52:30
SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not gonna try to try to perfect making Spanish food.
- 52:33
SPEAKER_05: Why not?
- 52:33
SPEAKER_05: That's just me.
- 52:34
SPEAKER_03: That's dumb.
- 52:34
SPEAKER_03: That's not culture.
- 52:35
SPEAKER_03: Why is Drake a culture?
- 52:36
SPEAKER_03: It's just like me, like so you so you're telling me so you're telling me that if you're black, where do you hail from, sir?
- 52:42
SPEAKER_00: Me, my parents are my parents are from Antigua and Trinidad.
- 52:44
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 52:45
SPEAKER_03: Trinidad is a good thing.
- 52:45
SPEAKER_03: So if you tell me that if you perfected how to make Dominican food and you opened up a Dominican restaurant, that somehow makes you any less of because not less of, but you if you do.
- 52:55
SPEAKER_03: That makes you a culture vote.
- 52:56
SPEAKER_03: Are you paying respect back?
- 52:57
SPEAKER_05: Nigga, you making that cuisine.
- 52:59
SPEAKER_05: If you're not paying respect back, so paying respect back by how?
- 53:03
SPEAKER_03: What are you doing, different ways?
- 53:05
SPEAKER_03: Like, give us an example.
- 53:06
unknown: You make a donation to a Dominican.
- 53:08
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
- 53:10
SPEAKER_03: So full of shit.
- 53:11
SPEAKER_03: You're full of shit.
- 53:12
SPEAKER_03: You know why you're full of shit?
- 53:13
SPEAKER_03: Because my dude, I don't give a fuck where it came from.
- 53:16
SPEAKER_03: If you can make a dollar off of it and it's something that you did or whatever.
- 53:20
SPEAKER_03: And I pay no respect back?
- 53:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm not talking about me.
- 53:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about in I'm asking in the fucking uh text, the context that I just asked you.
- 53:29
SPEAKER_03: If you opened up a restaurant, so you mean to tell me you're gonna you're gonna fucking sit there and pay some sort of respect back financially or of a restaurant.
- 53:38
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to be financially.
- 53:39
SPEAKER_01: I think that's the example you gave us, though.
- 53:41
SPEAKER_01: I think the analogy was just incorrect.
- 53:43
SPEAKER_01: But when we're speaking of Drake, I think if you come out as a rapper and you are a rapper, stay in your rapper lane, you shouldn't be making money off of another industry that people could be profiting off of because it's their culture.
- 53:55
SPEAKER_01: Which industry?
- 53:56
SPEAKER_01: West India, I hate when Drake does not make a lot of things.
- 53:58
SPEAKER_04: But that I'm gonna break this down for you right now.
- 54:00
SPEAKER_04: I used to feel the same way, but then I did some research.
- 54:03
SPEAKER_04: And Toronto culture is very influenced.
- 54:06
SPEAKER_04: This is how Drake told me his homies.
- 54:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 54:08
unknown: Okay.
- 54:09
SPEAKER_04: The ting and all of this stuff, that's his culture.
- 54:11
SPEAKER_01: What them ting have to do with over your way, he's making money.
- 54:13
SPEAKER_01: That's his culture.
- 54:14
SPEAKER_04: He's using his culture, and he's actually put people like PopCon, me and you know PopCon.
- 54:18
SPEAKER_04: Okay, you see, you see that's paying respect back.
- 54:21
SPEAKER_05: I'm putting popcorn on.
- 54:22
SPEAKER_05: So, how is Drake culture culture?
- 54:24
SPEAKER_05: Because he's still a culture vulture in my own.
- 54:27
SPEAKER_01: Yo, but yo, no, no, no, no.
- 54:28
SPEAKER_01: This is where you gotta grow up and realize you just hate Drake.
- 54:32
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
- 54:34
SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
- 54:34
SPEAKER_01: So you just have to realize when your reasoning doesn't add up, that it's just that.
- 54:39
SPEAKER_01: I admit for certain things, I just hate that Drake does it, but he does it well.
- 54:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll admit that.
- 54:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 54:44
SPEAKER_03: But he's not a but he's not a culture.
- 54:45
SPEAKER_03: He's not a culture culture.
- 54:46
SPEAKER_03: So at least with that argument, you say, okay, okay, that's and that's and that's what I tell him all the time.
- 54:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, he does the West India thing.
- 54:52
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, Toronto is very good.
- 54:55
SPEAKER_03: That's what's legit.
- 54:56
SPEAKER_01: I used to feel the same when the reason was.
- 55:05
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
- 55:06
SPEAKER_01: That's where it shows that his relevance of West Indian or any sort of vibe like that.
- 55:12
SPEAKER_04: There's these YouTube niggas.
- 55:13
SPEAKER_04: This nigga zap knows them.
- 55:14
SPEAKER_04: They used to do these funny ass videos.
- 55:16
SPEAKER_04: And Drake was making more entertainments way before all of that shit.
- 55:20
SPEAKER_04: We're talking about dorm entertainment and for it's for entertainment, they're from Toronto.
- 55:25
SPEAKER_04: And all of the videos is those Jamaican.
- 55:27
SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
- 55:28
SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you.
- 55:28
SPEAKER_04: And then they actually got Drake on a couple of the.
- 55:30
SPEAKER_04: You know I'm coming to.
- 55:31
SPEAKER_04: So how is Post Malone the culture vote?
- 55:33
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm about to smoke Post Malone.
- 55:34
SPEAKER_04: First of all, Post Malone said that if you want to feel emotion in your music and you want your music to move you, do not listen to hip-hop.
- 55:43
SPEAKER_04: What music does this nigga make?
- 55:46
SPEAKER_04: So if you're gonna tell me the shit that you are making money, so if you have your Dominican restaurant and you were telling people, yo, if y'all wanna have real good food, don't eat Dominican food.
- 55:54
SPEAKER_04: But you're making money off of Dominican food, that will make you a culture.
- 55:58
SPEAKER_04: No, it's not.
- 55:58
SPEAKER_04: How the fuck?
- 55:59
SPEAKER_02: No, what do you call it?
- 56:00
SPEAKER_02: What do you call it?
- 56:01
SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you.
- 56:01
SPEAKER_05: What do you what do you call it?
- 56:02
SPEAKER_05: What?
- 56:03
SPEAKER_05: What do you call it?
- 56:03
unknown: What do you mean?
- 56:04
SPEAKER_05: He's being honest.
- 56:05
SPEAKER_05: Bro, hip move me.
- 56:06
SPEAKER_02: If I go to not move, if I tell me something like a rap, you can't heard a rap lyric tapping on you.
- 56:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but it's moving me.
- 56:22
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I have heard it, but it's it's not my go-to.
- 56:25
SPEAKER_03: It's not your go-to.
- 56:26
SPEAKER_03: It may not be your go-to, but if it moved you, my dude, that's a form of art and it did something for you.
- 56:30
SPEAKER_03: Okay, but it's how can you say it?
- 56:32
SPEAKER_05: So how can you say other genre of music that you go to them and it's guaranteed that it's gonna be over?
- 56:37
SPEAKER_00: That's an opinion thing.
- 56:38
SPEAKER_00: That's an opinion, bro.
- 56:40
SPEAKER_00: Listen, he has his opinion.
- 56:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but then why the fuck is he making rap music then?
- 56:43
SPEAKER_04: Go make Bob Dylan music.
- 56:44
SPEAKER_04: So why the fuck am I gonna go make fucking Dominican food?
- 56:47
SPEAKER_04: Because you have a respect for Dominican food.
- 56:49
SPEAKER_04: You like Dominican food, you're good at it.
- 56:51
SPEAKER_04: He hasn't respect to hip-hop.
- 56:52
SPEAKER_04: How does he have a respect to hip-hop if he literally told people if you want to feel real music, don't listen to hip-hop?
- 56:58
SPEAKER_04: Because if you want to feel real music, not even you think hip-hop is.
- 57:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's the new phrase for a business.
- 57:19
SPEAKER_04: Fuck Post Malone and fuck you for tatting chinks drugs' lyrics on you and saying they don't move you.
- 57:24
SPEAKER_04: You're a combo for that.
- 57:26
SPEAKER_04: So, so so good business is a culture vulture.
- 57:29
SPEAKER_04: No, because Leor Cohen, in my opinion, is not a culture vulture until he said this shit about Dame Dash.
- 57:36
SPEAKER_03: You see, now here's the thing, and I don't think that people give Dame Dash enough credit.
- 57:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely not.
- 57:42
SPEAKER_03: I don't think that people respect Dame enough.
- 57:44
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely not.
- 57:47
SPEAKER_04: Jay Z the goat.
- 57:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, that's debatable.
- 57:51
SPEAKER_04: Um small circles.
- 57:54
SPEAKER_04: Okay, not in big ones.
- 57:56
SPEAKER_03: Lies.
- 57:57
SPEAKER_04: Lies go ahead, get your point across, Red.
- 58:01
SPEAKER_03: Um fucking boy.
- 58:10
SPEAKER_03: Totally forget shit.
- 58:13
SPEAKER_04: So you want me to bring it back to you?
- 58:14
SPEAKER_04: Bring it back.
- 58:16
SPEAKER_04: New York Cohen.
- 58:17
SPEAKER_04: What about it?
- 58:18
SPEAKER_04: Is he a culture voter?
- 58:19
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 58:20
SPEAKER_04: Why is he a culture voter?
- 58:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, what'd you go?
- 58:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh, what I was talking about was people don't respect Dame.
- 58:25
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 58:26
SPEAKER_03: And what I was saying was Dame without Dame, it's true.
- 58:32
SPEAKER_03: Jay-Z and Rockefeller would not be what it was.
- 58:35
SPEAKER_03: Dame was the brains behind it.
- 58:37
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 58:38
SPEAKER_03: Jay-Z was just a talent.
- 58:39
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 58:39
SPEAKER_03: And okay, granted, it was a partnership with Biggs, and it was a lovely thing, and they basically preach back then what everyone is preaching now about owning your own shit and owning your masters and things of that nature.
- 58:56
SPEAKER_03: So they had the they had the fucking blueprint back then.
- 59:01
SPEAKER_03: I like the pun.
- 59:02
SPEAKER_03: So you can't tell me that Jay-Z thought of doing all of that business by himself.
- 59:13
SPEAKER_03: Because, granted, he may have been great as a hustler, allegedly.
- 59:16
SPEAKER_03: This is the business.
- 59:17
SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
- 59:17
SPEAKER_03: But the business, Dame was the smart one.
- 59:19
SPEAKER_03: Dame was the one with the white kids at the fresh air fund and going to all of these places.
- 59:24
SPEAKER_06: But no matter what, Dame always just gets kicked out.
- 59:27
SPEAKER_03: You know why?
- 59:28
SPEAKER_03: Because Dame is passionate and he just doesn't like you know what it is?
- 59:32
SPEAKER_03: He's not bowing down to nobody.
- 59:33
SPEAKER_03: He looks like a crazy person.
- 59:35
SPEAKER_03: He's not, no, no, he's it's not, it's not about, yeah, bullshit or whatever.
- 59:38
SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
- 59:39
SPEAKER_03: Dude, you don't fucking talk to me this way.
- 59:42
SPEAKER_03: Like, motherfucker, I'm the business.
- 59:45
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 59:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm the business.
- 59:47
SPEAKER_03: You need me.
- 59:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, like that type of shit, which is the truth.
- 59:50
SPEAKER_03: Unfortunately, there are no black-owned businesses.
- 59:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm sorry, um, record labels and corporations of that magnitude.
- 59:58
SPEAKER_03: So that direct outlet, that direct pipeline, we don't have.
- 1:00:03
SPEAKER_03: So they do control um a majority of it.
- 1:00:07
SPEAKER_03: There was a crazy uh statistic.
- 1:00:10
SPEAKER_03: It was like out of the 43 billion dollars or something like that that uh hip hop brought in over the last year.
- 1:00:18
SPEAKER_03: The artist only made like 17 million.
- 1:00:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, the artist only made like 13% of that.
- 1:00:24
SPEAKER_03: That's fucking insane.
- 1:00:26
SPEAKER_04: Because we don't own anything.
- 1:00:27
SPEAKER_04: Right, but I'm just saying everybody signed the 360 deal.
- 1:00:29
SPEAKER_04: You know who started the 360 deal?
- 1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Who?
- 1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Leor Cohen.
- 1:00:33
SPEAKER_05: Two shot dude, culture voucher.
- 1:00:35
SPEAKER_05: Now let me ask you a question.
- 1:00:36
SPEAKER_04: I don't think it's because like what uh Ace said.
- 1:00:39
SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:00:39
SPEAKER_04: Did he really?
- 1:00:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the 360 deal is great business.
- 1:00:43
SPEAKER_04: Because what it did was he made it because the companies weren't making any money off the artists because they were gonna like we're making all the music, but then yo, these guys, we're fronting them so much money to make these albums to clear these records.
- 1:00:55
SPEAKER_04: It might cost one million to make an album, and I gave you a two million dollar advance, and then you're making so much more money by touring and merchandise selling Rough Rider shit.
- 1:01:05
SPEAKER_04: I'm not getting a dollar out of that, and we have to front the money.
- 1:01:08
SPEAKER_04: So he offered a 360 deal so that the the companies could recoup their money.
- 1:01:12
SPEAKER_04: Okay, now that's the same.
- 1:01:13
SPEAKER_03: So just for those out there, is that for those out there who are not familiar with a 360 or of what a 360 deal is, please explain.
- 1:01:20
SPEAKER_04: So a 360 deal is when you sign on the line.
- 1:01:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm speaking about a record deal, people.
- 1:01:24
SPEAKER_04: Yes, a record deal.
- 1:01:25
SPEAKER_04: So when you sign on a dollar line, that means I get money out of every every dollar you make, the record company gets a dollar.
- 1:01:32
SPEAKER_04: Commercials, they don't get it out of the shows, though.
- 1:01:34
SPEAKER_04: Yes, they do.
- 1:01:35
SPEAKER_04: Out of tours, they get a money.
- 1:01:36
SPEAKER_04: You do a walkthrough, they get money.
- 1:01:38
SPEAKER_04: Anything that's up, if you get cash, if somebody gives you cash money, I can't put it like that.
- 1:01:42
SPEAKER_06: No, if like if you're on club flies like that, they don't get a piece of that.
- 1:01:45
SPEAKER_04: No, if they if you're getting paid cash money, if there's a check involved, making sure they don't claim it.
- 1:01:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if there's a check involved, if I don't get my money, I can sue you, and there's a contract.
- 1:01:56
SPEAKER_04: There's a contract you signed away.
- 1:01:58
SPEAKER_04: All of that money goes, there's a percentage that goes back.
- 1:02:00
SPEAKER_04: There's people like Future, who's in a double 360 deal because he tried to fuck over Rocco.
- 1:02:05
SPEAKER_04: I remember that.
- 1:02:05
SPEAKER_04: This is how this stuff works.
- 1:02:06
SPEAKER_04: So that's what a 360 deal is.
- 1:02:08
unknown: When you sign two 360 deals.
- 1:02:09
SPEAKER_04: No, you don't sign two.
- 1:02:10
SPEAKER_04: Future's just an idiot.
- 1:02:11
SPEAKER_05: How's he?
- 1:02:11
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm about to say.
- 1:02:12
SPEAKER_03: Now he's that's why he puts out so much music.
- 1:02:14
SPEAKER_05: Because he needs to pay these niggas back.
- 1:02:18
SPEAKER_05: So now everything that he makes under another artist, the other company gets.
- 1:02:22
SPEAKER_05: Well, other artists, what are you talking about?
- 1:02:24
SPEAKER_05: I mean another company.
- 1:02:25
SPEAKER_03: Let's say he's Rocco eats off him, and so does his record label.
- 1:02:28
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm about to say.
- 1:02:29
SPEAKER_05: So he signed a 360 with.
- 1:02:30
SPEAKER_05: Let's say he signed a 360 with Atlantic and then inside a 360 with Rockefeller.
- 1:02:33
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:02:34
SPEAKER_05: You can't do that.
- 1:02:35
SPEAKER_05: Now Atlantic got to eat off of whatever Rockefeller books him for.
- 1:02:38
SPEAKER_04: No, no, you're not listening.
- 1:02:39
SPEAKER_04: So he was signed to an artist, another artist named Rocco.
- 1:02:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so he signed a 360 with Rocco.
- 1:02:45
SPEAKER_04: No, no, he had a regular deal with Rocco.
- 1:02:46
SPEAKER_04: Like we I got 10%, 20%, whatever it was.
- 1:02:48
SPEAKER_04: But then Future decided, fuck you, Rocco.
- 1:02:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna make all this money, not pay you anything, and I'm gonna sign a deal, like an actual deal with a label.
- 1:02:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:02:56
SPEAKER_04: And he signed a 360 deal with that label.
- 1:02:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:02:59
SPEAKER_04: Because you know the 360 deal helps the artists.
- 1:03:01
SPEAKER_04: We do all your publishing, we push you.
- 1:03:02
SPEAKER_04: I guarantee you all your favorite artists are in the 360 deals.
- 1:03:05
SPEAKER_04: I think the only big one that isn't might be A-Boogie.
- 1:03:07
SPEAKER_04: He he actually got a really good deal.
- 1:03:09
SPEAKER_04: A Boogie's just in the distribution.
- 1:03:10
SPEAKER_03: Nipsey's not in the 360 deal.
- 1:03:12
SPEAKER_04: People like, because he Nipsey, he's been around the game.
- 1:03:14
SPEAKER_04: He probably knows how this shit works.
- 1:03:15
SPEAKER_04: Joey Battis is in the 60s.
- 1:03:16
SPEAKER_04: If you go to like all these little, like Little Pump and all these dudes, they're all taking 360 deals because what it does, it puts you on a platform.
- 1:03:22
SPEAKER_04: I know Cardi B is definitely in the 360 deal, too.
- 1:03:24
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, she's definitely in the 60s.
- 1:03:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they put you on the platform, and that's what it's for, is for artists that want to be out there.
- 1:03:29
SPEAKER_04: He felt like Rocco wasn't doing enough for him, so he's decided, fuck you, Rocco.
- 1:03:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm out.
- 1:03:33
SPEAKER_04: 360 deal.
- 1:03:34
SPEAKER_04: That's fine.
- 1:03:34
SPEAKER_04: But the thing is, he had a contract with Rocco.
- 1:03:37
SPEAKER_04: And Rocco took him to court.
- 1:03:39
SPEAKER_04: He breached the contract.
- 1:03:40
SPEAKER_04: He breached the contract.
- 1:03:41
SPEAKER_04: So he signed a contract with the city.
- 1:03:43
SPEAKER_03: I think he think he got like a flat rate of like 10 million up front.
- 1:03:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:03:46
SPEAKER_03: Or something like that.
- 1:03:46
SPEAKER_03: Like he was forced to pay him like 10 million, and then he still gets whatever future don't got 10 million houses.
- 1:03:52
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so now that's what I'm saying.
- 1:03:53
SPEAKER_05: Now, when he paid back Rocco all that money, that's it.
- 1:03:56
SPEAKER_05: No, when that 360 deal is up.
- 1:03:58
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how long that contract was.
- 1:03:59
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how long he was under contract for.
- 1:04:01
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm saying the 360 with the other company that with your label, it might be for five albums.
- 1:04:05
SPEAKER_03: It might be for five albums.
- 1:04:06
SPEAKER_05: But that's saying so.
- 1:04:07
SPEAKER_05: Now the 360 that he signed with his label.
- 1:04:09
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 1:04:09
SPEAKER_05: Rocco getting percentage of life.
- 1:04:11
SPEAKER_04: Rocco gets percent.
- 1:04:12
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's say he gets paid$10 million to do the show.
- 1:04:14
SPEAKER_04: The label gets 5%, Rocco gets 5%, Future gotta pay his management, and then whatever money that's left over, that's when Future takes home.
- 1:04:22
SPEAKER_05: So now when does the ties break with Rocco?
- 1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how long however he had him under contract for.
- 1:04:27
SPEAKER_03: Whatever the contract for.
- 1:04:28
SPEAKER_04: Like somebody like Lil Wayne, he got fucked.
- 1:04:29
SPEAKER_04: Like he had like a lifetime deal with Birdman.
- 1:04:32
SPEAKER_04: But then he beat me, he beat me.
- 1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: That's the um that is the conspiracy theory behind uh Easy E.
- 1:04:41
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:04:43
SPEAKER_03: Easy E had a lifetime contract on Dr.
- 1:04:46
SPEAKER_03: Dre.
- 1:04:49
SPEAKER_03: And that's why if you look at the old interviews um when they were beefing, that's why Easy was wasn't tripping.
- 1:04:58
SPEAKER_03: He's like, yo, I still get like two, three million dollars a year off Dre.
- 1:05:03
SPEAKER_03: And in ninety two, about ninety-three, ninety-four, two, three million dollars.
- 1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: That's a lot of money.
- 1:05:09
SPEAKER_03: That's a lot of money.
- 1:05:11
SPEAKER_03: So you know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:13
SPEAKER_03: So you getting you definitely seeing some bread or whatever in these lifetime contracts and shit, like these things do exist.
- 1:05:20
SPEAKER_04: So the theory is that Dr.
- 1:05:22
SPEAKER_04: Dre got easy out the paint to get out of that contract?
- 1:05:24
SPEAKER_03: Game AIDS?
- 1:05:26
SPEAKER_03: There's a I don't want to say exactly what you know, whatever, because you know, I got personal relationships with people.
- 1:05:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:05:34
SPEAKER_03: But um all I'll say is that, you know, there's definitely foul play involved.
- 1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: And really, you know, Jimmy Henchman and these people.
- 1:05:47
SPEAKER_03: Chick night's just a fucking poem.
- 1:05:49
SPEAKER_03: But really?
- 1:05:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, really.
- 1:05:52
SPEAKER_03: Um you don't run you don't run the big show.
- 1:05:55
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:56
SPEAKER_03: That's why that that's why Dr.
- 1:05:58
SPEAKER_03: Dre was able to walk from it.
- 1:06:00
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:06:01
SPEAKER_03: Like there's a lot of, you know, like for instance, what happened with Dre when he left Death Row he gave Suge the Masters to the Chronic.
- 1:06:16
SPEAKER_03: He's like, alright, fine.
- 1:06:17
SPEAKER_03: Like, if this is what I have to give you to get from up under you, take it.
- 1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: And he went and he started completed over completely new.
- 1:06:24
SPEAKER_03: And look at him now.
- 1:06:25
SPEAKER_03: One of the richest rounds over.
- 1:06:26
SPEAKER_03: And look at how the tables turn because look where Suge is.
- 1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:06:31
SPEAKER_03: On$25 million bail.
- 1:06:35
SPEAKER_03: You know what Dre told him?
- 1:06:36
SPEAKER_03: Give me my Masters to the Chronic back and you can get your 25 mil.
- 1:06:40
SPEAKER_03: Powerful.
- 1:06:42
SPEAKER_03: But you see how them tables turn?
- 1:06:44
SPEAKER_05: But now this is my thing.
- 1:06:46
SPEAKER_05: Well the Chronic still came out and everything.
- 1:06:50
SPEAKER_05: So I'm saying if you had the right thing.
- 1:06:55
SPEAKER_03: No, he wrote on the Chronicle 2001.
- 1:06:57
SPEAKER_05: If you have the masters today, what did I give you if I already made my money?
- 1:07:03
SPEAKER_03: The consistent royalties, and every time somebody downloads, listens to streams, whatever, that's money coming in.
- 1:07:11
SPEAKER_05: Dre's not getting no percentage of that at all.
- 1:07:14
SPEAKER_03: No.
- 1:07:16
SPEAKER_03: He gave it up.
- 1:07:16
SPEAKER_03: He gave when you get when you give up the masters and you're publishing and all of that stuff, you don't you're not eating off those records anymore.
- 1:07:24
SPEAKER_03: So that's why he was that's.
- 1:07:27
SPEAKER_06: If he got a value, fuck it.
- 1:07:30
SPEAKER_03: If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, I think the chronic is like one of the the highest um selling map out of the room.
- 1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: So what happens when Truck Knight dies?
- 1:07:39
SPEAKER_03: Well, what that well that's what it is, you know, just like anything.
- 1:07:42
SPEAKER_03: Your possessions, where do they go to?
- 1:07:43
SPEAKER_03: Your next weekend.
- 1:07:45
SPEAKER_03: So okay, so now your mat your wife, your whatever.
- 1:07:48
SPEAKER_05: So now just like okay, now that you're talking about like magic that they're like with Wayne, situation, right?
- 1:07:54
SPEAKER_05: Isn't it something that I I could have swear I heard something about Burma that sold the masters to somebody else or some other shit.
- 1:08:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but now let's say let's say I'm Wayne Red Burma, Yamaha.
- 1:08:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:11
SPEAKER_05: I can't send you to buy the masters from him and then sell it to me.
- 1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, but it's just a matter of money, you know.
- 1:08:20
SPEAKER_04: Like Wayne can probably buy his masters back if Burman wants to give him a number.
- 1:08:24
SPEAKER_05: No, but I'm saying, like, I can't send somebody with an offer to him to get it from him and then.
- 1:08:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course, but then he's gonna wonder why does this why does Wayne's man want Wayne's masters?
- 1:08:31
SPEAKER_05: Oh, because no, I'm just saying somebody that that Burman don't even know.
- 1:08:34
SPEAKER_05: Like I could just send a random guy in the booth.
- 1:08:37
SPEAKER_05: It's probably gonna be like so beneficial.
- 1:08:39
SPEAKER_06: Why am I saying that?
- 1:08:40
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna be okay, so a hundred million dollars.
- 1:08:42
SPEAKER_03: You have to look at you have to look at you know how much it's worth in the long run.
- 1:08:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the business the music business is so so that mean you think the Carter Six isn't worth the five code want.
- 1:08:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 1:08:55
SPEAKER_03: That's like bro, that's like a question that I can't forget about.
- 1:08:59
SPEAKER_05: That's what I want to know.
- 1:09:00
SPEAKER_05: Like, why is it that nobody ever try to get around a loophole if it's that good of an album that everybody's waiting for it?
- 1:09:05
SPEAKER_05: Why nobody ever try to get around?
- 1:09:07
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
- 1:09:08
SPEAKER_03: There's Carter Six is being held up because of the money situation.
- 1:09:15
SPEAKER_04: He said card of six.
- 1:09:16
SPEAKER_04: I thought it was a six.
- 1:09:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I'm going off with it.
- 1:09:18
SPEAKER_03: Search up seriously.
- 1:09:24
SPEAKER_03: So Wayne, from what I remember, if I recall correctly, he finished recording, but he's not releasing the album to Birdman because of the money.
- 1:09:35
SPEAKER_03: So he's like, yo, I'm not giving you my money.
- 1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: Sound familiar?
- 1:09:38
SPEAKER_03: You we ain't producing unless uh money's brought to the table.
- 1:09:43
SPEAKER_05: I get that.
- 1:09:44
SPEAKER_05: And I do record.
- 1:09:45
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so that's it's the same process.
- 1:09:48
SPEAKER_03: I I'm Wayne.
- 1:09:49
SPEAKER_03: Here, this is the this is the album right here.
- 1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: It's finished.
- 1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: But guess what?
- 1:09:53
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna eat off of it.
- 1:09:55
SPEAKER_03: You still haven't paid me my bread.
- 1:09:57
SPEAKER_03: So I'm not giving this to you.
- 1:09:58
SPEAKER_05: But I heard it's the opposite way around.
- 1:10:00
SPEAKER_05: I heard Birdman has the album.
- 1:10:02
SPEAKER_03: No.
- 1:10:04
SPEAKER_03: No.
- 1:10:04
SPEAKER_04: Because if Birdman had the album, then he'd be able to put it out.
- 1:10:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but Lil Wayne just won the court case.
- 1:10:09
SPEAKER_04: He has the album.
- 1:10:10
SPEAKER_05: I thought he had like something like on a drive or something like that, but the actual royalty or ownership was to Birdman.
- 1:10:17
SPEAKER_05: Oh, he owns that album now.
- 1:10:18
SPEAKER_05: He won the court case.
- 1:10:19
SPEAKER_03: He won the court case.
- 1:10:20
SPEAKER_03: So he officially free off of what he wants to do.
- 1:10:26
SPEAKER_05: So he can basically release the album whenever he wants.
- 1:10:27
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 1:10:28
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so he's free off that, but does he still have his master's and all that for the part?
- 1:10:33
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 1:10:33
SPEAKER_03: I doubt it.
- 1:10:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:10:34
SPEAKER_03: So Birdman still has that.
- 1:10:36
SPEAKER_03: He's getting he's getting he's getting money that was owed to him, and he has freedom, which I think this, you know, no, no amount of money can buy.
- 1:10:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:10:45
SPEAKER_03: He has a lot of money.
- 1:10:46
SPEAKER_04: And Little Wayne doesn't really need to sign anybody.
- 1:10:48
SPEAKER_04: He settled, so he has a settlement.
- 1:10:50
SPEAKER_04: He got his money, the cash money up front, and he owns at least that album.
- 1:10:54
SPEAKER_05: Now, okay, now that's what I'm saying.
- 1:10:55
SPEAKER_05: If he owns the album, that means Birdman can't have the masters to that.
- 1:10:59
SPEAKER_04: Right, right, to that particular album.
- 1:11:00
SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:11:01
SPEAKER_05: So anything from here on out is little unless he goes to like that one album, so Burman practically still has the master to that one album.
- 1:11:10
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, he just won that album.
- 1:11:12
SPEAKER_05: So why he why like so basically the Carter Five could possibly drop tomorrow?
- 1:11:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, on Wayne's discretion.
- 1:11:18
SPEAKER_03: Right, at his discretion.
- 1:11:19
SPEAKER_03: And so whoever he you know seems fit to sign paperwork with to get money for it, that's what he's gonna do.
- 1:11:27
SPEAKER_03: So that's what he's doing now.
- 1:11:28
SPEAKER_03: He should just probably send back shopping album.
- 1:11:30
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 1:11:31
unknown: I think you should go back to the street.
- 1:11:32
SPEAKER_03: Because there's a market out there, listen.
- 1:11:34
SPEAKER_03: You gotta understand the only reason why Wayne is falling off musically is because of the dispute with the money.
- 1:11:40
SPEAKER_03: Some of his music has been so far.
- 1:11:42
SPEAKER_06: With the young money or the cash money?
- 1:11:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm talking about his thing with Birdman.
- 1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, that too, but like you gotta realize momentum.
- 1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: It's momentum because it's like, yo, the shit's being held up.
- 1:11:55
SPEAKER_03: I'm not, I don't feel motivated to produce.
- 1:11:57
SPEAKER_03: And these bars are probably outdated.
- 1:11:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, right.
- 1:11:59
SPEAKER_03: So like there's a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying, that plays into it.
- 1:12:03
SPEAKER_03: I love Lil' Win.
- 1:12:05
SPEAKER_05: Top five.
- 1:12:06
SPEAKER_05: Because that's why I wonder if he's gonna release it.
- 1:12:09
SPEAKER_03: I wonder if he's gonna release it or he's just gonna basically scrap it because it's like he may he may he may say he may fucking make a mixtape out of some of the songs and regularly.
- 1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: At this point, he can do what the fuck he wants to do.
- 1:12:23
SPEAKER_03: I like a free wing.
- 1:12:24
SPEAKER_03: I just wanna be, you know what?
- 1:12:26
SPEAKER_03: I think he I think he's gonna go end up giving a show.
- 1:12:29
SPEAKER_03: I think he's gonna end up dropping some crazy ass freestyle.
- 1:12:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:12:32
SPEAKER_03: He released some song called Quasi Modo.
- 1:12:33
SPEAKER_03: I haven't had a chance to check it out.
- 1:12:34
SPEAKER_03: How long ago?
- 1:12:35
SPEAKER_04: Like last week.
- 1:12:36
SPEAKER_03: Okay, because he there was something that was released um I think a month and change ago.
- 1:12:42
SPEAKER_03: It's just a song off the or off the quarterfire.
- 1:12:44
SPEAKER_03: It's just a song, I don't know where it's like.
- 1:12:46
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't really um impressed.
- 1:12:47
SPEAKER_04: All right, so I don't want to really it sounded it sounded dated, that's why.
- 1:12:50
SPEAKER_04: Okay, you see, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:12:52
SPEAKER_04: So I just want to bring this whole conversation full circle 360, which is funny.
- 1:12:57
SPEAKER_04: Is that Lee or Cohen?
- 1:12:58
SPEAKER_04: Culture Vulture or not?
- 1:13:01
SPEAKER_06: I feel like he just did what he had to do.
- 1:13:03
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so that's enough.
- 1:13:04
SPEAKER_04: Leo Cohen.
- 1:13:04
SPEAKER_04: Well, you don't I don't give a fuck what you're doing.
- 1:13:06
SPEAKER_04: I don't think it's okay.
- 1:13:07
SPEAKER_03: And so you think it's culture vulture.
- 1:13:09
SPEAKER_03: Culture vulture, absolutely.
- 1:13:10
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:13:11
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna sit, yeah, I I I I'm sorry, but there's no way that I don't know Dame Dash, and yet there's a picture of y'all motherfuckers literally.
- 1:13:26
SPEAKER_05: What if he was being what if he'd be petty with somebody that I don't know?
- 1:13:30
SPEAKER_06: Bro, no, they were you know Dame Dash.
- 1:13:32
SPEAKER_06: What if he was just being petty, like, oh I don't know him.
- 1:13:35
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm just saying Dame Dash's biggest thing is like, yo, you're at a platform now.
- 1:13:39
SPEAKER_04: This is like his first time ever speaking.
- 1:13:41
SPEAKER_04: Like, there's a lot of people that hear his name, don't even know what this guy looks like.
- 1:13:43
SPEAKER_04: They just see his name on chest.
- 1:13:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is his moment to like let everybody know what's going on, and for him to like diss Dame Dash like that, who is a prominent figure behind the scenes.
- 1:13:52
SPEAKER_04: Is that Dame Dash's government name?
- 1:13:54
unknown: No, I don't know.
- 1:13:55
SPEAKER_03: Damien Dash.
- 1:13:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Damien Dash.
- 1:13:57
SPEAKER_04: He's related to Stacey Dash, too.
- 1:13:58
SPEAKER_04: He could have probably been like, I don't know Dame Dash, I don't know Damian Dash.
- 1:14:00
SPEAKER_04: No, that's not what he does.
- 1:14:01
SPEAKER_04: He tried to little bro him on like on the on the worst level because this is a person that he can put on the point.
- 1:14:07
SPEAKER_03: So when you say co when when you you know use the word and term culture vulture, you also have to put into the fact that Lear Cohen has never put up any of his own money for anything.
- 1:14:17
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:14:18
SPEAKER_03: Like, you've never done anything with your own, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:14:21
SPEAKER_03: Like a passion for or just because someone's that's smart business.
- 1:14:27
SPEAKER_05: Why would I play with my money when I can play with other people's money?
- 1:14:31
SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:14:32
SPEAKER_04: I just want to know why to you is that fuck nigga post mode not a culture vulture.
- 1:14:37
SPEAKER_05: Because it's like no matter how you put it, if I'm making music, you're getting a big up from me.
- 1:14:44
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm making music in your in your life.
- 1:14:46
SPEAKER_05: No, but you just said that's not the same thing.
- 1:14:48
SPEAKER_05: But I'm just saying you have to give back.
- 1:14:49
SPEAKER_03: If I say, if I say I just want to go on record and say I don't even know a song, I don't know what the fuck this nigga even said.
- 1:14:54
SPEAKER_04: You know what's crazy about that?
- 1:14:55
SPEAKER_04: He just beat Michael Jackson's thriller record on billboard.
- 1:14:59
SPEAKER_04: Who?
- 1:14:59
SPEAKER_04: Pulse Malone.
- 1:15:00
SPEAKER_04: From what song?
- 1:15:01
SPEAKER_04: Weeks Weeks on the Billboard.
- 1:15:03
SPEAKER_04: No, album.
- 1:15:03
unknown: What's the name of that?
- 1:15:04
SPEAKER_04: What's the name of it?
- 1:15:05
SPEAKER_04: His album is Stony, I think.
- 1:15:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:15:07
SPEAKER_04: That shit 77 weeks.
- 1:15:08
SPEAKER_04: It came, it's been on Billboard for 77 weeks.
- 1:15:12
SPEAKER_04: Thriller was there for 76 weeks.
- 1:15:15
SPEAKER_05: But see, this is my thing.
- 1:15:16
SPEAKER_04: That's my why why I think it's culture vulturism.
- 1:15:18
SPEAKER_05: This is my thing.
- 1:15:19
SPEAKER_04: Thriller, my name.
- 1:15:20
SPEAKER_05: Like I said, there's there's music.
- 1:15:22
SPEAKER_05: Thriller.
- 1:15:23
SPEAKER_05: There's music I've listened to that I can say move me way better than hip-hop.
- 1:15:27
SPEAKER_04: That's you, but he's saying he is a white number one.
- 1:15:30
SPEAKER_04: I don't give a fuck what y'all want to say about race.
- 1:15:32
SPEAKER_04: It don't matter, because I wish TC was here because he honestly thinks that race don't matter in these situations.
- 1:15:36
SPEAKER_04: But it definitely does.
- 1:15:38
SPEAKER_04: Because hip-hop is a lot of people's like our parents didn't grow up on that.
- 1:15:43
SPEAKER_04: They looked at that music as this is this is devil's music.
- 1:15:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is garbage.
- 1:15:47
SPEAKER_04: But there's generations raised on Pac, Jekins, Jay-Z, like these shit, like this stuff feels like I feel hip-hop.
- 1:15:54
SPEAKER_04: Like this is a culture for me.
- 1:15:56
SPEAKER_05: But that's my thing now.
- 1:15:57
SPEAKER_05: You also gotta realize I stem from hip-hop starting basically off of rock and roll.
- 1:16:02
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's and rock and roll is Chuck Barry and black niggas too.
- 1:16:05
SPEAKER_04: So what do you what point are you trying to make?
- 1:16:06
SPEAKER_04: That shit was stolen from us too.
- 1:16:08
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, like, but if it's starting from there, why did they not say that hip hop is a culture vulture to rock and roll?
- 1:16:13
SPEAKER_04: No, because hip-hop, you can't how can a culture be a culture vulture?
- 1:16:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, like, the artist is making a few.
- 1:16:18
SPEAKER_05: Where did rock and roll come from?
- 1:16:19
SPEAKER_05: The artist that's making hip-hop, why are we not saying they're culture vulture to rock?
- 1:16:23
SPEAKER_03: So is Jordan a culture vulture of a Nike or vice versa?
- 1:16:26
SPEAKER_05: I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
- 1:16:27
SPEAKER_05: Like we're saying Post Malone is a culture vulture because he said don't listen to hip-hop, but he makes it.
- 1:16:31
SPEAKER_04: No, by your definition, you're saying you must give back.
- 1:16:34
SPEAKER_04: If dissing the culture that you're in is the exact opposite of giving back.
- 1:16:38
SPEAKER_04: So how is he not a culture?
- 1:16:39
SPEAKER_04: I could be a troll in this model.
- 1:16:40
SPEAKER_04: No, he's not trolling.
- 1:16:41
SPEAKER_04: He meant what he said.
- 1:16:42
unknown: How do you know that?
- 1:16:43
SPEAKER_04: Because he said it.
- 1:16:44
unknown: Okay.
- 1:16:44
SPEAKER_05: I can tell you anything to make sales.
- 1:16:46
SPEAKER_04: How would that make sales?
- 1:16:48
SPEAKER_05: Um, you paid attention to it?
- 1:16:50
SPEAKER_05: Such and such a sort of thing.
- 1:16:51
SPEAKER_05: No, I didn't listen to a single song, though.
- 1:16:52
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying that made me not want to listen to it.
- 1:16:54
SPEAKER_05: But I'm saying you pay for it.
- 1:16:54
SPEAKER_05: And this ain't gonna almost let himself on fire.
- 1:16:56
SPEAKER_05: You paid attention to that simple fact and it gained attention.
- 1:17:00
SPEAKER_06: Bro, you're saying post Malone is not a culture vulture because rock and roll culture is actually hip-hop culture, which means hip-hop culture is rock and roll culture.
- 1:17:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I disagree 100%.
- 1:17:08
SPEAKER_04: They're different cultures, completely different cultures in the world.
- 1:17:11
SPEAKER_06: Because they were all started by the same race, that's what you're saying.
- 1:17:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like if we're saying that post-malone is being culture of hip-hop, why are we not saying the people that's making hip-hop other than him is being culture for the people that made rock and roll?
- 1:17:22
SPEAKER_05: Because it doesn't make any sense.
- 1:17:25
SPEAKER_04: Because it doesn't make any sense.
- 1:17:26
SPEAKER_04: They're two separate genres.
- 1:17:28
SPEAKER_05: But when you ask anybody, they say we started off a rock and roll.
- 1:17:31
SPEAKER_04: No, when you ask anybody, they say the Puerto Ricans and the Jamaicans made it.
- 1:17:34
SPEAKER_04: Because that's how it came out in the Bronx.
- 1:17:36
SPEAKER_04: They took crates from the Bronx.
- 1:17:39
SPEAKER_04: Rock and roll, they took these songs.
- 1:17:40
SPEAKER_04: In fact, wait a minute.
- 1:17:41
SPEAKER_04: Hip hop's birthday was just yesterday.
- 1:17:44
SPEAKER_04: There we go.
- 1:17:45
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't a literal, hey, I'm gonna take a fucking Elvis Presley song and slow it down and make a rap song.
- 1:17:51
SPEAKER_03: That's not how it worked.
- 1:17:52
SPEAKER_03: Your um your your uh elaboration on that is a little charred, uh, Sir John.
- 1:17:58
SPEAKER_03: I think you just need to do some research, bro.
- 1:18:00
SPEAKER_03: Honestly.
- 1:18:00
SPEAKER_03: I'll do my research.
- 1:18:01
SPEAKER_04: But you have a Chinx Drugs tattoo of lyrics.
- 1:18:05
SPEAKER_04: What do you mean that it moved?
- 1:18:06
SPEAKER_04: So why the fuck did you get it plastered onto your skin?
- 1:18:09
SPEAKER_05: The quote itself was just a touching quote.
- 1:18:11
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 1:18:11
SPEAKER_05: So did that means it moved you, sir.
- 1:18:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we gotta move.
- 1:18:14
SPEAKER_05: We gotta move on.
- 1:18:15
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, it's not like everything.
- 1:18:17
SPEAKER_03: It struck a chord.
- 1:18:19
SPEAKER_05: It's not everything he said.
- 1:18:20
SPEAKER_05: But so nobody's saying it's everything.
- 1:18:22
SPEAKER_03: No one said everything because everything in hip-hop, I'm sorry, everything in rock and roll or everything in whatever other genre music doesn't move someone.
- 1:18:29
SPEAKER_05: But do you know where that original line is from?
- 1:18:32
SPEAKER_05: I don't guess.
- 1:18:32
SPEAKER_05: It's a line that other people have said.
- 1:18:35
SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about?
- 1:18:36
SPEAKER_05: If you aim for the stars and you miss your target, at least you know what the sky field is.
- 1:18:39
SPEAKER_04: Who said it besides him?
- 1:18:40
SPEAKER_04: People have said No, who has said it beside him?
- 1:18:42
SPEAKER_05: Whenever you were growing up, they said aim for the moon.
- 1:18:44
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna ask you aim for the moon.
- 1:18:45
SPEAKER_05: If not, you land on the stars.
- 1:18:46
SPEAKER_04: Answer the question.
- 1:18:47
SPEAKER_04: Who has said it beside him?
- 1:18:49
SPEAKER_05: I have had teachers that told me It wasn't on wax.
- 1:18:52
unknown: What do you mean?
- 1:18:52
SPEAKER_03: Verbatim.
- 1:18:53
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't on wax.
- 1:18:54
SPEAKER_03: Verbatim like you tatted the shit on your fucking arm.
- 1:18:57
unknown: Did they have the master?
- 1:19:01
SPEAKER_03: Fuck all that shit, nigga.
- 1:19:02
SPEAKER_03: Where did you learn the fucking quote from?
- 1:19:05
SPEAKER_05: I've heard it in the world.
- 1:19:06
SPEAKER_03: Where did you learn from when I first learned the quote from with school?
- 1:19:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll tell you what.
- 1:19:10
SPEAKER_02: And what that what exactly made you tatted?
- 1:19:14
SPEAKER_05: To be honest, you know what made me tatted?
- 1:19:16
SPEAKER_02: Who's did you hear project?
- 1:19:18
SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you right now.
- 1:19:18
SPEAKER_05: You had a projection that you got a tatted, right?
- 1:19:21
SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you exactly how it happened.
- 1:19:22
SPEAKER_04: You're gonna lose a lot of friendly.
- 1:19:23
SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you exactly how it happened.
- 1:19:25
SPEAKER_05: My man said, yo, I'm gonna get a tattoo.
- 1:19:27
SPEAKER_05: I said I want to get a tattoo.
- 1:19:28
SPEAKER_05: I was bumper chill.
- 1:19:29
SPEAKER_05: Like, oh shit, that's a nice line.
- 1:19:30
SPEAKER_05: So it moved you.
- 1:19:31
SPEAKER_03: So it touched you in a way.
- 1:19:33
SPEAKER_03: So next.
- 1:19:34
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 1:19:35
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:19:35
SPEAKER_04: So I guess that's a good way to wrap that topic.
- 1:19:38
SPEAKER_04: Alright, so we we're done with all the music shit.
- 1:19:40
SPEAKER_04: So um reggae.
- 1:19:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, reggae a pretty interesting topic.
- 1:19:45
SPEAKER_04: Um either want to talk about trainnies?
- 1:19:49
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes, yes.
- 1:19:51
SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's get ratchet.
- 1:19:53
SPEAKER_04: Transgender male playing female sports.
- 1:19:56
SPEAKER_04: Is it fair?
- 1:19:57
SPEAKER_04: Dun dun done.
- 1:19:59
SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm letting you know right now I'm playing devil's advocate.
- 1:20:01
SPEAKER_04: Nigga, that's my job.
- 1:20:02
SPEAKER_04: You're not good enough to do that.
- 1:20:03
SPEAKER_06: But good I just think you want him to start because it's his time.
- 1:20:06
SPEAKER_04: Listen, we just round robin.
- 1:20:08
SPEAKER_04: Let's go.
- 1:20:08
SPEAKER_04: Round robin.
- 1:20:09
SPEAKER_06: That sounds like a fat guy.
- 1:20:10
SPEAKER_06: Anyway, I don't think they should be able to because this is like the strength of a man.
- 1:20:17
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 1:20:17
SPEAKER_06: Does estrogen weaken you?
- 1:20:18
SPEAKER_04: First of all, I'm a feminist, and men and women are equal in every way possible.
- 1:20:22
SPEAKER_04: So she should be able to play.
- 1:20:24
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so yeah, go tell a female right now to pick up 250 pounds.
- 1:20:27
SPEAKER_04: Well, okay.
- 1:20:28
SPEAKER_06: There are females that can do that.
- 1:20:30
SPEAKER_06: I'm talking about the average female.
- 1:20:31
SPEAKER_06: What's the average male?
- 1:20:32
SPEAKER_05: Do they not have tournaments where both guys and girls play?
- 1:20:35
SPEAKER_06: I mean, how many trophies have you won?
- 1:20:38
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 1:20:38
SPEAKER_05: I'm asking you.
- 1:20:39
SPEAKER_05: What sports are you?
- 1:20:41
SPEAKER_05: On basketball.
- 1:20:41
SPEAKER_05: On basketball, there's tournaments that you could have a girl on your team.
- 1:20:45
SPEAKER_03: But you can't play.
- 1:20:45
SPEAKER_03: What do you mean?
- 1:20:46
SPEAKER_03: But you can't play.
- 1:20:47
SPEAKER_03: Put a nigga in the W NBA right now.
- 1:20:49
SPEAKER_03: See what happens.
- 1:20:50
SPEAKER_03: There's no rule against a woman.
- 1:20:52
SPEAKER_04: Against a woman playing on a basketball team with a bunch of guys.
- 1:20:54
SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 1:20:54
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm gonna make I'm gonna make it.
- 1:20:56
SPEAKER_04: We've seen the movie Joanna, man.
- 1:20:57
SPEAKER_04: Hold on, make it clear.
- 1:20:58
SPEAKER_04: There's no rule that a woman cannot play in the NBA.
- 1:21:01
SPEAKER_04: But there's definitely a rule that a man cannot play in the WNBA.
- 1:21:05
SPEAKER_04: And it's not, and it's not that's sexist.
- 1:21:08
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm a feminist, so it's not.
- 1:21:09
SPEAKER_04: But that is though.
- 1:21:10
SPEAKER_04: There's leagues out there where we're not talking about the smaller.
- 1:21:14
SPEAKER_03: But Trend, uh, excuse me.
- 1:21:15
SPEAKER_03: Someone who is born a man and chose to become a woman and wants and wants and wants to play female sports, that is not fair.
- 1:21:26
SPEAKER_03: Why?
- 1:21:26
SPEAKER_03: Why?
- 1:21:27
SPEAKER_03: Because that's stronger than the natural.
- 1:21:30
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna put it straight like this.
- 1:21:33
SPEAKER_05: I went to a Catholic high school where they had a guy that was openly gay and told everybody he wanted to become a woman.
- 1:21:39
SPEAKER_05: And you know what they'd let him do?
- 1:21:40
SPEAKER_05: He was allowed to use the girls' bathroom.
- 1:21:42
SPEAKER_05: Is that right or wrong?
- 1:21:42
SPEAKER_05: That's Catholic school.
- 1:21:43
SPEAKER_05: That's wrong.
- 1:21:44
SPEAKER_03: Catholic schools nobody said anything.
- 1:21:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, guess what?
- 1:21:47
SPEAKER_03: Nobody says anything about the fathers touching the fucking boys either.
- 1:21:50
SPEAKER_03: So next.
- 1:21:51
SPEAKER_03: So why is it wrong?
- 1:21:53
SPEAKER_05: If they if they want to start a whole community and say LGBT sounds wild, whatever the fuck it is.
- 1:21:59
SPEAKER_05: Nah, we never say that.
- 1:22:00
SPEAKER_05: Nobody wants to say that we're all equal.
- 1:22:02
SPEAKER_05: And if I say something to one of those people, I could get in trouble.
- 1:22:05
SPEAKER_05: Why are you they not allowed?
- 1:22:07
SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't think you can really get in trouble for saying anything.
- 1:22:09
SPEAKER_04: If you discriminate against me.
- 1:22:11
SPEAKER_05: If you call a gay guy a faggot, no, that is a hate crime.
- 1:22:13
SPEAKER_04: No, you got money.
- 1:22:14
SPEAKER_04: No, you're good.
- 1:22:14
SPEAKER_04: That's a hate crime.
- 1:22:15
SPEAKER_04: No, you can call him a faggot.
- 1:22:16
SPEAKER_05: That is a hate crime.
- 1:22:16
SPEAKER_04: No, you can call him a faggot.
- 1:22:17
unknown: That's a hate crime.
- 1:22:18
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
- 1:22:19
SPEAKER_05: If I walk up to a gay guy like, yo, you faggot.
- 1:22:25
SPEAKER_03: If you call him a faggot and assault him, then it's a hate crime.
- 1:22:28
SPEAKER_05: Or if I woke up, you fucking faggot.
- 1:22:31
SPEAKER_05: That's not if you you if I woke up, you fucking nigga, bitch.
- 1:22:34
SPEAKER_05: That ain't a fucking hate crime.
- 1:22:35
SPEAKER_04: No, but if you say you can get arrested for that.
- 1:22:38
SPEAKER_04: If you walk up, we get arrested saying the nigga.
- 1:22:40
SPEAKER_06: You get arrested for saying nigga as of uh 2016.
- 1:22:46
SPEAKER_01: If you say it again for the um congregation, you cannot say nigga publicly in New York City.
- 1:22:50
SPEAKER_04: You can get arrested for that.
- 1:22:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna test that shit the minute we walk out of the way.
- 1:22:53
SPEAKER_04: Wait, so I can't say nigga?
- 1:22:55
SPEAKER_04: You you you were definitely a nigga.
- 1:22:57
SPEAKER_04: No, I can't say nigga.
- 1:22:58
unknown: If I if I say yo, he called me a nigga, now we can't.
- 1:23:00
SPEAKER_04: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:23:02
SPEAKER_04: Me as a black male can't say nigga.
- 1:23:04
SPEAKER_04: I'm testing this shit the minute I leave here.
- 1:23:06
SPEAKER_04: Wait a minute.
- 1:23:06
SPEAKER_04: This is this is that's appropriate in my culture.
- 1:23:08
SPEAKER_04: Stop hitting the table.
- 1:23:09
SPEAKER_04: Come on, nigga.
- 1:23:10
SPEAKER_03: Black people can't be racist.
- 1:23:12
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but that's I'll I'll unpack that.
- 1:23:14
SPEAKER_04: No, he's right about that, but I'll I'll unpack that.
- 1:23:15
SPEAKER_04: But back to look up what exactly is written.
- 1:23:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:23:18
SPEAKER_05: Because I don't know if it's white, black.
- 1:23:19
SPEAKER_05: Whatever the word nigger in the N-I-G-G-E-R form is illegal in New York.
- 1:23:24
SPEAKER_05: So if I say nigga.
- 1:23:26
SPEAKER_05: Listen.
- 1:23:27
SPEAKER_05: Nigga, listen.
- 1:23:28
SPEAKER_04: If you are So this is an illegal podcast right now.
- 1:23:32
SPEAKER_04: If you're a cop and you say faggot, here's a ticket, that's against the law.
- 1:23:37
SPEAKER_06: Why?
- 1:23:39
SPEAKER_04: That's not freedom of speech.
- 1:23:40
SPEAKER_04: No, no, that's not.
- 1:23:45
SPEAKER_04: So what the retail Starbucks and you says faggot here's your coffee, that's against the law.
- 1:23:50
SPEAKER_04: But no, because what the fuck happened to freedom of speech?
- 1:23:53
SPEAKER_04: Why can't they take things?
- 1:23:54
SPEAKER_04: That's not freedom of speech.
- 1:23:55
SPEAKER_04: It is no no no hold on, hold on.
- 1:23:57
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:23:58
SPEAKER_04: This is this is a give my opinion on my mind.
- 1:24:00
SPEAKER_04: The first thing, this is commerce.
- 1:24:02
SPEAKER_04: They are paying you to do something for them.
- 1:24:05
SPEAKER_04: You are doing a job.
- 1:24:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I have to hand them what they want.
- 1:24:08
SPEAKER_04: You are still faggot.
- 1:24:09
SPEAKER_04: No, you're still doing a job.
- 1:24:10
SPEAKER_04: So let me ask you a question.
- 1:24:11
SPEAKER_05: If it's I'm not when you clock out.
- 1:24:13
SPEAKER_05: So let me ask you a question.
- 1:24:14
SPEAKER_05: If I am working at my job and there's a gay guy moving a box, and I bet, yeah, move that box, you faggot.
- 1:24:20
SPEAKER_05: You will absolutely lose your job in 2018.
- 1:24:22
SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:24:22
SPEAKER_05: It's hate speech.
- 1:24:23
SPEAKER_04: He's a faggot.
- 1:24:24
SPEAKER_04: And you are working.
- 1:24:25
SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:24:25
SPEAKER_04: You cannot do that.
- 1:24:26
SPEAKER_04: You're at work.
- 1:24:27
SPEAKER_04: It's not your leisure time.
- 1:24:28
SPEAKER_04: He's not paying me for nothing.
- 1:24:30
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna give it to a little bit further.
- 1:24:31
SPEAKER_04: If you work for certain companies and you go on your Instagram and you say, I hate faggots, that is also against policy, you get fired.
- 1:24:40
SPEAKER_05: That I do agree with you because I got written up for saying faggot the other day, and it wasn't me calling somebody a faggot.
- 1:24:46
SPEAKER_05: I just said I ain't gonna lie.
- 1:24:48
SPEAKER_05: Because we like we're allowed to listen to music while we while we what you go, and I just said all I said was the nigga, I think somebody played Boom Baba.
- 1:24:57
SPEAKER_05: I was like, Yeah, I don't fuck with them faggot shit.
- 1:24:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's not even in the song, so you won't.
- 1:25:00
SPEAKER_05: And boom, I got written up.
- 1:25:01
SPEAKER_05: And I looked at the nigga like, you should have lost your job too, but like that's another slow.
- 1:25:04
SPEAKER_05: What am I getting written up for?
- 1:25:05
SPEAKER_05: He goes, You use a slur, but when he explained it to me, it's also because we have a guy.
- 1:25:11
SPEAKER_05: He's protecting his job.
- 1:25:12
SPEAKER_05: No, we have a guy that's actually a transgender that works there.
- 1:25:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, his name is Darius.
- 1:25:16
SPEAKER_05: He's not me.
- 1:25:17
SPEAKER_05: But I just it's just a long story.
- 1:25:19
SPEAKER_05: And I was just like, okay, I agree with that.
- 1:25:20
SPEAKER_05: I love it.
- 1:25:21
SPEAKER_05: So he's Darius.
- 1:25:22
SPEAKER_05: But I think he's a transgender is different.
- 1:25:25
SPEAKER_05: Let's misclassify them, that's why.
- 1:25:26
SPEAKER_05: If I just woke up some of the things, come on, bro.
- 1:25:28
SPEAKER_04: 2018.
- 1:25:28
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so let's get back to the argument.
- 1:25:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, I personally think that without my feminist cap on, that you cannot have a man playing.
- 1:25:35
SPEAKER_04: If you were genetically a man, is he playing pro ball?
- 1:25:39
SPEAKER_05: Are you playing college ball or high school ball?
- 1:25:41
SPEAKER_03: All right, I'm gonna put it to you this way.
- 1:25:43
SPEAKER_03: Who is all right, I'm gonna put it to you this way.
- 1:25:46
SPEAKER_03: A transgender wants to fight your mama.
- 1:25:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:25:50
SPEAKER_03: You letting them scrap?
- 1:25:51
SPEAKER_05: Is that a fair fight?
- 1:25:52
SPEAKER_05: It's not gonna be a fair fight, but hold on, I guarantee if I put my hands on him, I'm gonna get it.
- 1:25:56
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
- 1:25:57
SPEAKER_03: Answer the question.
- 1:25:57
SPEAKER_03: Is that a fair fight?
- 1:25:58
SPEAKER_03: That transgender is beating the brakes off your mama.
- 1:26:01
SPEAKER_03: No, it might not be fine.
- 1:26:01
SPEAKER_03: The brakes.
- 1:26:02
SPEAKER_03: It might not be a fair fight.
- 1:26:04
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so transgender fighting your mama.
- 1:26:05
SPEAKER_03: Is that a fair fight?
- 1:26:06
SPEAKER_03: No, no, I'm getting a transgender fighting your mama.
- 1:26:07
SPEAKER_03: No, nigga.
- 1:26:08
SPEAKER_03: It's not a fair fight.
- 1:26:09
SPEAKER_03: So why would it be fair in sports or any other thing where it's a matter of physique and physical?
- 1:26:16
SPEAKER_03: Physical.
- 1:26:17
SPEAKER_03: Because this is what I don't understand.
- 1:26:21
SPEAKER_05: You don't understand what's going on.
- 1:26:21
SPEAKER_05: Everybody can say we're all equal, females, but they're giving female jobs that guys have say they can't.
- 1:26:27
SPEAKER_02: Whoa.
- 1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: This guy's wild.
- 1:26:30
SPEAKER_05: That's different.
- 1:26:31
SPEAKER_05: We're all equal.
- 1:26:32
SPEAKER_05: You why is it if that's what he's doing?
- 1:26:34
SPEAKER_03: Mentally, if people like that were equal, broken.
- 1:26:37
SPEAKER_03: We're not equal in the fucking physics, physically.
- 1:26:45
SPEAKER_05: No, no, there's a happen.
- 1:26:47
SPEAKER_05: I forgot exactly word for word.
- 1:26:49
SPEAKER_05: He just doesn't like single minds.
- 1:26:53
SPEAKER_05: Shut the fuck up.
- 1:26:54
SPEAKER_05: Where'd you get that law from?
- 1:26:57
SPEAKER_05: There's a whole petition where you have pedophiles trying to file a petition for another law saying that in their mind they think that this is right.
- 1:27:04
SPEAKER_05: We spoke about that.
- 1:27:07
SPEAKER_05: So now if that's what we're giving people as laws, why the fuck is he not allowed or allowed not to switch to what the fuck you can play?
- 1:27:17
SPEAKER_05: I'm just asking.
- 1:27:18
SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you, I'll play a devil advocate.
- 1:27:19
SPEAKER_05: So at what point in life, I just want to know.
- 1:27:20
SPEAKER_03: At what point in life do you want to cut your dick off?
- 1:27:22
SPEAKER_05: I never want to cut my dick off.
- 1:27:24
SPEAKER_03: You were speaking very passionately early.
- 1:27:26
SPEAKER_03: Make sure that you weren't early.
- 1:27:29
SPEAKER_03: I just want to know.
- 1:27:30
SPEAKER_03: No, listen, here's the reality.
- 1:27:32
SPEAKER_03: I understand what you're saying, and that makes sense in a perfect fucking world.
- 1:27:36
SPEAKER_03: But when you put into competitiveness and sports and things of that nature, it's not the same.
- 1:27:43
SPEAKER_03: Yes, a female mentally can do anything plus more than a man can do, but physically, no.
- 1:27:50
SPEAKER_03: Forget about it.
- 1:27:51
SPEAKER_03: And the ones that are able to, they're of a lesser percentage of the ones who aren't able to do.
- 1:28:00
SPEAKER_05: So now let me ask you a question.
- 1:28:01
SPEAKER_05: So, what do you think should happen that he or she that did that?
- 1:28:04
SPEAKER_03: That did what?
- 1:28:05
SPEAKER_05: That change the agenda and went to go play.
- 1:28:07
SPEAKER_05: The school allowed it.
- 1:28:08
SPEAKER_03: Guess what?
- 1:28:09
SPEAKER_03: The same thing that happens to the rest of us in the real world when we fuck up, you're disqualified.
- 1:28:14
SPEAKER_05: So now you're saying the whole school should be disqualified.
- 1:28:16
SPEAKER_04: No, that season, those games, those championships, whatever it may be, those just don't count.
- 1:28:21
SPEAKER_04: When will we draw the line?
- 1:28:22
SPEAKER_04: Stop hitting the table, nigga.
- 1:28:24
SPEAKER_05: Stop hitting the table.
- 1:28:25
SPEAKER_05: I just want to know.
- 1:28:25
SPEAKER_05: I just want to hit him.
- 1:28:26
SPEAKER_05: Because it's like now that person, that switch there would you say now you're basically discriminating against the streets.
- 1:28:36
SPEAKER_03: There's no reason that they can't.
- 1:28:38
SPEAKER_03: I can say that I'm discriminated against, but you know what I'm saying?
- 1:28:42
SPEAKER_03: Like you have to be in the in the with the reason when you're being logical and things being of normality.
- 1:28:55
SPEAKER_06: You have to when when you look at things like from a legality perspective.
- 1:28:59
SPEAKER_06: Legal legality?
- 1:29:02
SPEAKER_03: Like a legal perspective.
- 1:29:03
SPEAKER_06: Well, from a legal perspective, if I'm born a man, just like let's say I get a name change, if I become a woman, do I on paper become a woman?
- 1:29:12
SPEAKER_04: Um by classification, yes, but not genetically.
- 1:29:15
SPEAKER_04: Because you can't.
- 1:29:16
SPEAKER_06: Oh, but my classification, so I classify, I I classify for the playing a dumping baby.
- 1:29:21
SPEAKER_04: Sports is classified as a woman in like, you know, a dumping check your blood.
- 1:29:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're gonna be a man.
- 1:29:29
SPEAKER_04: Because sports is man blood?
- 1:29:32
SPEAKER_05: You have more extragen, there's no more extra chromosome than why, nigga.
- 1:29:36
SPEAKER_06: But people take estrogen pills and all that.
- 1:29:37
SPEAKER_04: No, but that doesn't remove.
- 1:29:38
SPEAKER_03: Did you not take biology?
- 1:29:39
SPEAKER_06: I did, but I didn't learn about private school.
- 1:29:42
SPEAKER_04: I didn't learn about man blood.
- 1:29:44
SPEAKER_03: It's not about man blood, it's about fucking DNA.
- 1:29:46
SPEAKER_04: It is DNA.
- 1:29:48
SPEAKER_05: Because if somebody takes a blood drop and they can tell exactly who the fuck you are.
- 1:29:51
SPEAKER_04: If you pee in a cup and a woman pee in the cup, there's different shit than that pee.
- 1:29:54
SPEAKER_04: Well, because we're two different people.
- 1:29:55
SPEAKER_04: No, two different things.
- 1:29:57
SPEAKER_04: That's the whole point, you dickhead.
- 1:29:59
SPEAKER_05: Two different things all the time.
- 1:30:00
SPEAKER_05: He's he didn't get it.
- 1:30:01
SPEAKER_05: He's he's slow, you know.
- 1:30:02
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, now let me ask you a question.
- 1:30:03
SPEAKER_05: Because this is this is a very good topic.
- 1:30:06
SPEAKER_05: And something else also happened around that same time that they caught that transgender trying to play.
- 1:30:12
SPEAKER_05: So, what about these people that's now overage that's coming back to high school from these foreign countries, but they have no documentation because of natural disasters.
- 1:30:20
SPEAKER_03: That has been happening since that happened in Texas after um what was the hurricane in there in Houston?
- 1:30:26
SPEAKER_05: I forgot what it was called, but it was bad though.
- 1:30:28
SPEAKER_03: No, but there's um there was there was uh a dude grown who basically went back to high school to relive his 26.
- 1:30:36
SPEAKER_03: Relive his high school fantasies of balling, and he was busting ass on that card.
- 1:30:41
SPEAKER_04: And he was dating a girl.
- 1:30:42
SPEAKER_03: And he was dating a freaking girl just to try to make it all uh be legal or seem legit.
- 1:30:47
SPEAKER_05: Now, if something like that, what would you say now?
- 1:30:50
SPEAKER_04: The same shit happens.
- 1:30:51
SPEAKER_05: They all get suspended?
- 1:30:52
SPEAKER_04: No, they're season all count, those those points, those count.
- 1:30:55
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
- 1:30:56
SPEAKER_04: Those don't count.
- 1:30:56
SPEAKER_04: That's it.
- 1:30:57
SPEAKER_03: You just gotta deal with it.
- 1:30:58
SPEAKER_03: The only sport that that's a good thing.
- 1:31:00
SPEAKER_03: Listen, just like in life, you know why rules are are there?
- 1:31:04
SPEAKER_03: Because one asshole fucked it up for everybody.
- 1:31:07
SPEAKER_03: That's just the way that it is.
- 1:31:09
SPEAKER_04: Just the way I would let transgender play in, you know, chess checkers, those tournaments.
- 1:31:14
SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:31:15
SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:31:16
SPEAKER_04: Wow, but what?
- 1:31:16
SPEAKER_04: What?
- 1:31:16
SPEAKER_04: A man could be smarter than a woman?
- 1:31:18
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 1:31:20
SPEAKER_03: Anything that has to do with just the mind.
- 1:31:22
SPEAKER_05: But that's still some sort of discrimination.
- 1:31:24
SPEAKER_03: Guess what, bro?
- 1:31:25
SPEAKER_03: We have rules.
- 1:31:26
SPEAKER_03: It is what it is.
- 1:31:27
SPEAKER_03: You can't get into every fucking club, no matter how much you want.
- 1:31:30
SPEAKER_04: There's some leagues, like uh Filipino leagues, that you can't every you can only have two non-Filipino uh bat uh players on the team.
- 1:31:36
SPEAKER_04: But that's a race thing.
- 1:31:37
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:31:38
SPEAKER_04: Why it's for the rules to keep everything balanced.
- 1:31:40
SPEAKER_04: But I can't just fucking change myself into a Filipino.
- 1:31:43
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but they're keeping the league bent.
- 1:31:46
SPEAKER_04: Just like you can't just change yourself into a fucking woman.
- 1:31:49
SPEAKER_04: Technically, no, you can't.
- 1:31:50
SPEAKER_04: You literally cannot.
- 1:31:50
SPEAKER_04: You cannot change your DNA.
- 1:31:51
SPEAKER_04: Now let me ask you a question.
- 1:31:54
SPEAKER_03: From what I from what I hear, what was alleged that I found it hilarious that uh Bruce Jenner wants to uh be a fucking a villain or some shit.
- 1:32:04
SPEAKER_02: Super healing.
- 1:32:05
SPEAKER_02: I said, motherfucker, you're already an X-Men.
- 1:32:07
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
- 1:32:08
SPEAKER_04: You seen a meme.
- 1:32:09
SPEAKER_06: We're not gonna steal.
- 1:32:10
SPEAKER_03: It's a meme?
- 1:32:11
SPEAKER_04: It's a meme.
- 1:32:11
unknown: Really?
- 1:32:12
SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:32:12
SPEAKER_04: Somebody beats you to it, man.
- 1:32:14
SPEAKER_04: That's that's really a meme.
- 1:32:15
SPEAKER_04: For real?
- 1:32:17
SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:32:18
SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:32:18
SPEAKER_04: Somebody's gonna be a good thing.
- 1:32:19
SPEAKER_04: It's like viral, too.
- 1:32:21
SPEAKER_04: The internet is fast, man.
- 1:32:22
unknown: Yeah.
- 1:32:23
SPEAKER_04: It's been like a week.
- 1:32:24
SPEAKER_04: I never heard.
- 1:32:25
SPEAKER_04: I never seen it.
- 1:32:26
unknown: I didn't see it.
- 1:32:26
SPEAKER_04: I can pull it up right now.
- 1:32:27
SPEAKER_04: I believe you.
- 1:32:28
SPEAKER_04: I'm sure.
- 1:32:30
SPEAKER_04: I thought she took it off for me.
- 1:32:31
SPEAKER_04: For real.
- 1:32:31
SPEAKER_04: No, like for real, for real.
- 1:32:33
SPEAKER_03: You posted it?
- 1:32:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh no.
- 1:32:35
SPEAKER_04: I have it, I have a screenshot of somewhere though.
- 1:32:38
SPEAKER_05: It was on Twitter.
- 1:32:39
SPEAKER_05: Twitter starts everything.
- 1:32:40
SPEAKER_05: But so that's not my question.
- 1:32:42
SPEAKER_05: Bruce J Bruce Jenner wants to go play in the fucking NBA.
- 1:32:45
SPEAKER_05: What are we gonna tell him though?
- 1:32:46
SPEAKER_05: First of all, Bruce Jenner is an Olympic champion multiple times.
- 1:32:52
SPEAKER_04: Motherfucker went from Wheaties to Fru Loop.
- 1:32:56
SPEAKER_05: If he wants to go play in the NBA right now, he's a man.
- 1:33:00
SPEAKER_03: So if you want to go play in the W NBA right now, no, but he's a woman.
- 1:33:05
SPEAKER_03: No.
- 1:33:06
SPEAKER_03: He's not I don't give a fuck what you say.
- 1:33:10
SPEAKER_03: What is this drive?
- 1:33:11
SPEAKER_03: Bruce Jenner is a fucking man.
- 1:33:13
SPEAKER_05: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:33:14
SPEAKER_05: So like on his license, when they want to donate parts, right?
- 1:33:18
SPEAKER_04: Like in this gay now.
- 1:33:20
SPEAKER_04: Alright, let me ask you, let me ask you a real question, Zap.
- 1:33:23
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:33:24
SPEAKER_06: Do you honestly believe that uh transgender Oh nah bro, it's low before you even stop.
- 1:33:28
SPEAKER_06: Just stop.
- 1:33:29
SPEAKER_04: So they're men to you.
- 1:33:30
SPEAKER_04: All men to you.
- 1:33:31
SPEAKER_04: What?
- 1:33:32
SPEAKER_06: Yes, if they change to a woman, they're a man.
- 1:33:34
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:33:34
SPEAKER_04: So what if one of your friends, right, has sex with these things?
- 1:33:37
SPEAKER_04: Is he a gay?
- 1:33:38
SPEAKER_06: Is he gay?
- 1:33:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, nigga, what?
- 1:33:40
SPEAKER_04: This is how he explains it to you.
- 1:33:41
SPEAKER_04: Yo, to me, if it has a vagina, it's a woman.
- 1:33:45
SPEAKER_06: Bro, no.
- 1:33:46
SPEAKER_06: Because it was a man.
- 1:33:47
SPEAKER_06: It got man blood.
- 1:33:49
SPEAKER_05: So is your favorite basketball player gay?
- 1:33:52
SPEAKER_06: You're not my favorite basketball player.
- 1:33:54
SPEAKER_05: I'm asking you a question, bro.
- 1:33:55
SPEAKER_05: Your favorite basketball player was caught staring at Bruce Jenner.
- 1:33:59
SPEAKER_06: Eddie Murphy.
- 1:34:00
SPEAKER_05: He did say I thought it was a woman.
- 1:34:02
SPEAKER_06: Kobe Bryant said that.
- 1:34:04
SPEAKER_06: Paul Pierce said that.
- 1:34:05
SPEAKER_04: Your favorite basketball player, Paul Pierce.
- 1:34:07
SPEAKER_04: Why do you keep saying that?
- 1:34:08
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, let's uh let's move on.
- 1:34:09
SPEAKER_04: Paul Pierce got caught staring at Kaylin Jenner.
- 1:34:12
SPEAKER_03: Listen, that's good.
- 1:34:13
SPEAKER_03: Bruce Jenner.
- 1:34:14
SPEAKER_03: Um Bruce Jenner's a man, and I don't really care what you want to be or whatever the case is.
- 1:34:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, we're gonna call it what it is.
- 1:34:25
SPEAKER_03: You're a man.
- 1:34:26
SPEAKER_03: You choose to want to live the life of a female, and hey, that's whatever it is, but that's your choice, and I respect it, but we're gonna call things what they are.
- 1:34:41
SPEAKER_06: Call a spade a spade, unless it gets like a little piece of the spade.
- 1:34:47
SPEAKER_04: The meme has been pulled up.
- 1:34:49
SPEAKER_06: The meme has circular.
- 1:34:50
SPEAKER_04: Alright, um, so let's uh you guys wanna move on to our our final topic?
- 1:34:56
SPEAKER_04: Alright, so this is this is a conversation that Ace and uh Red were having off the podcast, apparently.
- 1:35:02
SPEAKER_04: Um, so this is this is how it goes.
- 1:35:04
SPEAKER_04: Does age bear a difference on gender roles?
- 1:35:07
SPEAKER_04: That's the first part.
- 1:35:08
SPEAKER_04: And do you feel inclined to approach females differently based on age alone?
- 1:35:14
SPEAKER_06: And I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm not repeating it.
- 1:35:17
SPEAKER_06: It's in your fucking phone.
- 1:35:18
SPEAKER_06: So okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna start the topic.
- 1:35:21
SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna say yeah, because I think we've all been in a situation where we've seen we said that girl is like fire or looks attractive.
- 1:35:30
SPEAKER_06: And I mind she's 25.
- 1:35:32
SPEAKER_06: Hey, how old are you?
- 1:35:34
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm 16.
- 1:35:35
SPEAKER_06: And then automatically it's just I'm gonna let you just be 16.
- 1:35:38
SPEAKER_04: So you've never you never redshirted a girl before?
- 1:35:40
SPEAKER_04: But see.
- 1:35:41
SPEAKER_06: So she was 18, yeah.
- 1:35:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's redshirting.
- 1:35:43
SPEAKER_04: I know, I don't understand what you're saying.
- 1:35:44
SPEAKER_04: Why do you said you just gonna let her be?
- 1:35:46
SPEAKER_04: Redshirt.
- 1:35:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm leaving her.
- 1:35:48
SPEAKER_04: You're not familiar with the term?
- 1:35:49
SPEAKER_04: No, we'll keep her on the bench until she's legal.
- 1:35:51
SPEAKER_04: So that's a college basketball term.
- 1:35:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so redshirting is when you find a girl.
- 1:35:56
SPEAKER_04: I never went to college.
- 1:35:58
SPEAKER_04: Who's about to turn who's about to turn legal.
- 1:36:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and then you just, you know, aha let you.
- 1:36:05
SPEAKER_04: Basically, what's keep on the belly?
- 1:36:06
SPEAKER_04: What DMX is doing in belly.
- 1:36:07
SPEAKER_04: What?
- 1:36:08
SPEAKER_04: What DMX is doing in belly with the girl?
- 1:36:09
SPEAKER_04: I don't really remember.
- 1:36:10
SPEAKER_04: Keep her on the bench.
- 1:36:11
unknown: Okay.
- 1:36:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, oh yeah, you just keep her at at bay.
- 1:36:14
SPEAKER_05: It's like you find that that nice sweet fruit, but it doesn't matter.
- 1:36:17
SPEAKER_04: It doesn't really affect the belly.
- 1:36:18
SPEAKER_04: A belly, right?
- 1:36:18
SPEAKER_04: No, it's sweet.
- 1:36:19
SPEAKER_04: I like that.
- 1:36:20
unknown: What?
- 1:36:20
SPEAKER_04: Anyways, yeah, that's red shirt.
- 1:36:22
SPEAKER_04: You just put a girl to the side.
- 1:36:23
SPEAKER_04: Okay, you just you just you just put her on ice.
- 1:36:25
SPEAKER_04: How do you know it's sweet?
- 1:36:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what what uh tiger to Kylie?
- 1:36:29
SPEAKER_04: Let the wine age.
- 1:36:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:36:31
SPEAKER_04: That's red shirt.
- 1:36:32
SPEAKER_05: Because it's the darker the better, the sweeter you see.
- 1:36:34
SPEAKER_04: So the topic is racing.
- 1:36:36
SPEAKER_04: How does age affect, you know, gender roles?
- 1:36:39
SPEAKER_04: A lot.
- 1:36:39
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 1:36:40
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna expect a little ass girl to do the same things a woman is kicking.
- 1:36:44
SPEAKER_05: But you know what's the sad part?
- 1:36:45
SPEAKER_05: You know what's the sad part?
- 1:36:46
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 1:36:46
SPEAKER_05: You know what's the sad part about is there's a lot of people that say AIDS doesn't matter.
- 1:36:54
SPEAKER_04: AIDS does matter.
- 1:36:57
SPEAKER_04: That's why Connors were AIDS.
- 1:36:59
SPEAKER_04: You keep saying AIDS.
- 1:37:01
SPEAKER_04: AIDS don't matter.
- 1:37:04
SPEAKER_04: AIDS don't matter.
- 1:37:04
SPEAKER_04: AIDS ain't nothing but AIDS.
- 1:37:08
SPEAKER_05: You can have a girl that's 18.
- 1:37:11
SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:37:12
SPEAKER_05: You might think, you know, she's legal, whatever.
- 1:37:15
SPEAKER_05: But her mentality won't be there.
- 1:37:20
SPEAKER_05: Like it wouldn't be an older, like, I feel like it just depends on the person.
- 1:37:25
SPEAKER_04: I definitely it definitely I definitely agree with Zap, but depends on the person.
- 1:37:27
SPEAKER_04: Because you can't.
- 1:37:28
SPEAKER_04: Because there's 25 year olds that are Yeah, you can get a girl that's sitting in DR right now who's been cooking and cleaning for her family since she was 14 years old.
- 1:37:35
SPEAKER_04: So she comes up here in America and her mind.
- 1:37:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and in her mind, she's a she's already experienced everything.
- 1:37:42
SPEAKER_04: So she got a mindset of a 30-year-old woman already.
- 1:37:44
SPEAKER_04: And you got some heifers that are running around here that's 25 and can't wipe their ass properly.
- 1:37:48
SPEAKER_04: So it's about the person.
- 1:37:51
SPEAKER_04: True.
- 1:37:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, people joke.
- 1:37:57
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
- 1:37:58
SPEAKER_02: Very good.
- 1:38:04
SPEAKER_05: But no, that's true because I just feel like age matter.
- 1:38:08
SPEAKER_03: Legally and not legally.
- 1:38:09
SPEAKER_06: I mean, Aliyah said age ain't nothing but another.
- 1:38:11
SPEAKER_03: So basically, like a tangent on that conversation was like you do you feel automatically.
- 1:38:19
SPEAKER_03: Do you feel automatically inclined to pay for a female or whatever, like, just based on how old she is or how she looks, like compared to you yourself.
- 1:38:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm a gentleman, right?
- 1:38:29
SPEAKER_04: Society makes you think that you have to pay for the personally would always offer to pay, not even if I don't want to.
- 1:38:36
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna offer to pay, unless she axed me out, which all all all these young women they don't do the asking out most of the time.
- 1:38:42
SPEAKER_04: Older women, on the other hand, they're more with the hey, let me take you out, let me show you something.
- 1:38:47
SPEAKER_04: But no, I've had a woman say, hey, older women.
- 1:38:50
SPEAKER_06: Hey, let's go out, made all the plans and stuff like that.
- 1:38:52
SPEAKER_06: So when it was time to pay, it was like, Oh, so you wasn't gonna pay?
- 1:38:55
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
- 1:38:56
SPEAKER_01: She was actually called a little minded bitch.
- 1:38:59
SPEAKER_01: So you can't use the B word.
- 1:39:00
SPEAKER_01: Age does matter then.
- 1:39:01
SPEAKER_01: So when it's older, I feel more inclined to what?
- 1:39:05
SPEAKER_01: Pay?
- 1:39:06
SPEAKER_01: Because you're younger and you wanna.
- 1:39:08
SPEAKER_01: Nah, nah, what is it?
- 1:39:11
SPEAKER_04: I would allow the older woman to pay.
- 1:39:12
SPEAKER_01: The older they get, I feel like they know what they want.
- 1:39:15
SPEAKER_01: And when they're younger or your age, how do you treat it?
- 1:39:17
SPEAKER_04: I feel like I always offer in my mind, I don't want I would rather go Dutch, but I'm gonna offer to pay.
- 1:39:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, no matter no matter the age.
- 1:39:26
SPEAKER_04: For the most part, but who you are.
- 1:39:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because of who I am.
- 1:39:29
unknown: What's going Dutch for the public?
- 1:39:30
SPEAKER_03: What's going Dutch for the public?
- 1:39:31
SPEAKER_03: 50-50.
- 1:39:32
SPEAKER_03: Pay for your shit.
- 1:39:33
SPEAKER_03: So that means that for people out there who don't know what going Dutch is, that means if you and a gentleman or you and a lady go out together, you both eat, you both dine, drink, whatever, you pay for half whatever.
- 1:39:46
SPEAKER_03: You pay for what you got, he pays for what he got.
- 1:39:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm gonna be.
- 1:39:51
SPEAKER_03: And you split the fucking tip.
- 1:39:52
SPEAKER_03: See, you know that's going Dutch.
- 1:39:53
SPEAKER_04: See, like there's a lot of variants in going Dutch.
- 1:39:56
SPEAKER_04: Like some people would go and I will pay for the meal, you pay for the drinks.
- 1:40:00
SPEAKER_04: I'll pay for you pay all the tip.
- 1:40:02
SPEAKER_04: So there's a lot of different ways of going to the city.
- 1:40:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, at at some point, it's basically a half half the half.
- 1:40:07
SPEAKER_06: If I'm going Dutch, I'm paying for my shit.
- 1:40:10
SPEAKER_03: But technically, going Dutch means I'm paying for my shit, you pay for your shit.
- 1:40:16
SPEAKER_06: Because I'm not gonna pay half if I got an$11 salad and you want to get a$35.
- 1:40:21
SPEAKER_04: Listen, pay your way.
- 1:40:23
SPEAKER_04: You guys are dating?
- 1:40:23
SPEAKER_04: Because we were talking about that.
- 1:40:24
SPEAKER_05: No, no.
- 1:40:24
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying, like I hate niggas like that.
- 1:40:27
SPEAKER_05: What type of niggas do we like?
- 1:40:28
SPEAKER_04: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:40:30
SPEAKER_04: It's illegal to say the N-word now.
- 1:40:32
SPEAKER_05: If we all go out, what kills me is it don't have to be with a female, it's just as a group.
- 1:40:41
SPEAKER_05: I'm saying for my stuff.
- 1:40:45
SPEAKER_05: As a group of friends.
- 1:40:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I'm gonna count my three dollar margarita to the head.
- 1:40:50
SPEAKER_05: It's like, yo, you really, it's all about the good vibes.
- 1:40:52
SPEAKER_05: Like, why are you worried about it?
- 1:40:57
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna grow fans, uh shit.
- 1:40:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, you pay for what you got.
- 1:41:01
SPEAKER_03: If a nigga say, yo, bro, I got you.
- 1:41:03
SPEAKER_03: I got this right.
- 1:41:03
SPEAKER_03: That's different.
- 1:41:04
SPEAKER_05: I'll just be like, yo, if the bill's a hundred dollars, everybody throw$20.
- 1:41:07
SPEAKER_05: Not that different.
- 1:41:08
SPEAKER_02: But if I broke you$20 if I paid the four or five dollar bill.
- 1:41:11
SPEAKER_04: I hate niggas like you, man.
- 1:41:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing it.
- 1:41:13
SPEAKER_04: I got one bid you got eight cups of handy.
- 1:41:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
- 1:41:18
SPEAKER_04: Don't go like that.
- 1:41:19
SPEAKER_04: I knew what my pockets were before we were.
- 1:41:21
SPEAKER_03: It's not about being different, bro.
- 1:41:22
SPEAKER_03: It's about being responsible.
- 1:41:24
SPEAKER_04: He hangs out with a lot of white folk that have a lot of expendable money, so that's why he's like So it's just like I just had a cup, they just had a cup of water back on the body.
- 1:41:35
SPEAKER_04: That's exactly why.
- 1:41:36
SPEAKER_05: How many times we're gonna be able to do that?
- 1:41:41
SPEAKER_04: No, man.
- 1:41:42
SPEAKER_04: Niggas is wild, man.
- 1:41:43
SPEAKER_05: I I'm the type of guy who goes out.
- 1:41:45
SPEAKER_05: Yo, hit$60 to the bill.
- 1:41:47
SPEAKER_04: But what if you had$80 worth of shit?
- 1:41:49
SPEAKER_04: You're a baller, sir.
- 1:41:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what if you had$80 worth of shit?
- 1:41:52
SPEAKER_04: You're talking about hit$60 to the bill.
- 1:41:53
SPEAKER_03: Once again, that's why I say you don't speak for the majority because the majority of the people are gonna be like, yo, wait a minute.
- 1:41:58
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm paying for what like you did Trump in the room.
- 1:42:01
SPEAKER_03: It's different.
- 1:42:01
SPEAKER_03: You're not even about to get around.
- 1:42:02
SPEAKER_03: It's different, it's different if that's your girl or some shit.
- 1:42:06
SPEAKER_03: Like if it was your name, whatever your situation is.
- 1:42:09
SPEAKER_03: But you can't just expect somebody to pay.
- 1:42:13
SPEAKER_05: I don't expect it, but it's like you just said that you do having a comment.
- 1:42:16
SPEAKER_05: Well, you're just gonna look at somebody a certain way because they don't.
- 1:42:19
SPEAKER_05: I would have no, I look at the fact that you gotta count every dollar.
- 1:42:23
unknown: I don't like that.
- 1:42:23
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait.
- 1:42:24
SPEAKER_05: But you count in your own shit.
- 1:42:26
SPEAKER_05: We all knew that we're going out to have a good time.
- 1:42:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, my good time is two drinks.
- 1:42:30
SPEAKER_05: If you bring out, if you bring out, let's say, let's say, let's be realistic.
- 1:42:33
SPEAKER_05: We know if you go out to really have a good time and enjoy a very good night at a spot, a hundred dollar minimum.
- 1:42:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna stop you right there.
- 1:42:39
SPEAKER_04: First of all, I'm getting my bottle prior, and my shit's gonna be in my car.
- 1:42:43
SPEAKER_04: Pre-game.
- 1:42:44
SPEAKER_04: I go inside, I'm gonna lose my buzz, going back outside drinking my shit.
- 1:42:48
SPEAKER_03: I smoke weed, so the drinking really don't do shit for me.
- 1:42:51
SPEAKER_06: He's the type of nigga that'll invite you out, the bottle pack is 400.
- 1:42:55
SPEAKER_06: So you're not gonna put up, bro, even though you're not drinking.
- 1:42:58
SPEAKER_06: You in the section, though, bro.
- 1:42:59
SPEAKER_06: I'm not that type of nigga.
- 1:43:01
SPEAKER_05: My nigga, if I'm if we get a whole section where you can sit down comfortably, bring big.
- 1:43:07
SPEAKER_02: You think these plus the couches make a fucking difference in my life?
- 1:43:11
SPEAKER_05: But I'm just saying, if I'm just saying, But if I say let's get a section, you agree to that.
- 1:43:15
SPEAKER_05: No, no, right?
- 1:43:16
SPEAKER_05: You invite the home base.
- 1:43:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
- 1:43:17
SPEAKER_03: Put the home base.
- 1:43:19
SPEAKER_03: You just volunteer.
- 1:43:20
SPEAKER_03: Let's let us.
- 1:43:21
SPEAKER_03: You're inviting that.
- 1:43:23
SPEAKER_03: So obviously you got it.
- 1:43:24
SPEAKER_04: If you hit me like, yo, bro, I'm trying to get a section, how much you got?
- 1:43:27
SPEAKER_04: That's a different conversation that you can.
- 1:43:28
SPEAKER_03: I got a section pull up.
- 1:43:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm going out tonight.
- 1:43:31
SPEAKER_05: I don't think I have a section.
- 1:43:32
SPEAKER_05: I said, let's go out and get a section.
- 1:43:34
SPEAKER_03: You're volunteering it.
- 1:43:36
SPEAKER_05: So if I offer to be like, yo, let's go out and let's go.
- 1:43:38
SPEAKER_03: See, you said you offer.
- 1:43:39
SPEAKER_05: You often I offer to go out and party and have a good night.
- 1:43:43
SPEAKER_05: That's different.
- 1:43:43
SPEAKER_05: But your good night and my good night is different.
- 1:43:45
SPEAKER_05: So this is my thing.
- 1:43:46
SPEAKER_05: If you don't expect to put up a dollar at the beginning of that when I say, yo, let's get a section.
- 1:43:50
SPEAKER_05: Listen, I don't got it.
- 1:43:51
SPEAKER_05: Cool.
- 1:43:52
SPEAKER_05: Don't come sit in a section, then you expect me to pay.
- 1:43:54
SPEAKER_05: I'm not partying with you.
- 1:43:55
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:43:56
SPEAKER_03: You're not understanding.
- 1:43:57
SPEAKER_03: You can't just say, let's go get a section.
- 1:44:01
SPEAKER_03: You get a section.
- 1:44:02
SPEAKER_03: If you didn't clear, like, yo, was everybody, was everybody, everybody good?
- 1:44:06
SPEAKER_03: Like, everybody, whatever.
- 1:44:08
SPEAKER_03: Like, you have to do that.
- 1:44:09
SPEAKER_03: Like, you can't just expect that everybody got it.
- 1:44:12
SPEAKER_03: There's times where niggas have off weeks.
- 1:44:14
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:44:15
SPEAKER_03: And as adults, shit happens.
- 1:44:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't understand it.
- 1:44:19
SPEAKER_03: So I don't expect or put myself in a position to expect, and then look at somebody sideways because they don't have it, or because so and so, so-and-so, because I don't know what's going on in their life.
- 1:44:30
SPEAKER_03: We don't know what's going on in everybody's life.
- 1:44:31
SPEAKER_03: So when someone says, Yo, let's go get this, that's like saying, Let's go, I got it, because you're volunteering it.
- 1:44:40
SPEAKER_03: The same way when someone says, yo, let's go out, let's go hang out, or let's go get some drinks, it's the same thing.
- 1:44:46
SPEAKER_03: You invited me.
- 1:44:48
SPEAKER_05: So, see, I guess I'm just cut from a different cloak.
- 1:44:50
SPEAKER_03: Because if I Nigga, first off, you a napkin, white power.
- 1:44:54
SPEAKER_05: If I say let's go and I have drinks, you're entitled.
- 1:44:57
SPEAKER_05: And you know you don't have to let me know.
- 1:45:00
SPEAKER_05: Yo, I listen, I don't got got it.
- 1:45:01
SPEAKER_05: I'll just stay home.
- 1:45:02
SPEAKER_05: And I'll bet, okay, I'm cool.
- 1:45:04
SPEAKER_05: You make it seem like I'm the dickhead that makes up everything.
- 1:45:07
SPEAKER_05: Where that option of makes up everything saying, okay, I got you.
- 1:45:10
SPEAKER_05: Can we get back to the women?
- 1:45:11
SPEAKER_05: You get what I'm saying?
- 1:45:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but no, I'm not sure.
- 1:45:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the way that you made it sound as far as like the uh club shit.
- 1:45:17
SPEAKER_03: Like if I take a woman out to the club, I'm not talking about women, you just say like you're boys and shit.
- 1:45:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, people so like, oh so let's go to the club.
- 1:45:23
SPEAKER_03: Like, like it no, how do you know I got money for a section?
- 1:45:26
SPEAKER_03: Hold up.
- 1:45:26
SPEAKER_03: Like, how do you know that I want to fucking sit here and pay two$150 for a bottle that costs fucking$50?
- 1:45:34
SPEAKER_03: $50.
- 1:45:35
SPEAKER_03: Fuck out of here.
- 1:45:36
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
- 1:45:37
unknown: Let me know that for the job.
- 1:45:39
SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't go to the club, so it don't matter.
- 1:45:42
SPEAKER_03: Good move, good move.
- 1:45:42
SPEAKER_05: We'll go get a table at Starbucks.
- 1:45:43
SPEAKER_03: I only go to the club for business.
- 1:45:45
SPEAKER_05: We'll go get a uh table at Starbucks, don't worry.
- 1:45:48
SPEAKER_03: Brother Little.
- 1:45:49
SPEAKER_05: Rounds of coffee for everybody.
- 1:45:51
SPEAKER_03: Bro, guess what?
- 1:45:52
SPEAKER_03: It's AC.
- 1:45:53
SPEAKER_03: Smell fresh up in there.
- 1:45:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't smell, you know, stripper booty and dollar bills and shit.
- 1:45:58
SPEAKER_05: I smell with stripper booty.
- 1:46:00
SPEAKER_04: The wiping, the wiping, we spoke about that earlier.
- 1:46:02
SPEAKER_05: But back to what we say.
- 1:46:04
SPEAKER_04: Strip club is a sad place, right?
- 1:46:05
SPEAKER_04: No, it is.
- 1:46:06
SPEAKER_04: I I go there just for research.
- 1:46:08
SPEAKER_04: I go there for I I go there for business.
- 1:46:10
SPEAKER_04: I research a lot.
- 1:46:11
SPEAKER_04: I go there for business.
- 1:46:12
SPEAKER_04: I'm a I'm gonna write a book, man.
- 1:46:15
SPEAKER_04: Strippers on life.
- 1:46:19
SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, so back to the gender roles and age thing.
- 1:46:22
SPEAKER_04: So when do you think a woman is fully matured?
- 1:46:27
SPEAKER_04: That's like almost yeah.
- 1:46:36
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:46:38
SPEAKER_04: There's no age on that.
- 1:46:42
SPEAKER_04: I'm not I'm not mature at all.
- 1:46:43
SPEAKER_03: That's what she said.
- 1:46:45
SPEAKER_04: I'm already still surviving all the people.
- 1:46:50
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's di there's different aspects to maturity, but when you say um maturity in a female, what do you what do you mean by maturity define maturity?
- 1:46:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 1:47:00
SPEAKER_03: Sexual maturity?
- 1:47:00
SPEAKER_03: That was a pretty blanket.
- 1:47:01
SPEAKER_04: You could walk.
- 1:47:02
SPEAKER_04: You could that's a slippery slope, my guy.
- 1:47:05
SPEAKER_06: Slippery when we're here.
- 1:47:06
SPEAKER_06: No, because sexual maturity, I wouldn't say until at least 18.
- 1:47:09
SPEAKER_06: No, it's like biology would tell you.
- 1:47:12
SPEAKER_06: I said at least 18.
- 1:47:13
SPEAKER_05: Do you know there's this girls in the uh that's probably 12 fucking having kids?
- 1:47:18
SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about my analogy.
- 1:47:19
SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about my sexual maturity.
- 1:47:21
SPEAKER_04: So you have a period.
- 1:47:24
SPEAKER_04: No, right.
- 1:47:25
SPEAKER_05: Well, men do have periods.
- 1:47:27
SPEAKER_05: Oh wait, what makes men do have a men period when your balls drop?
- 1:47:31
SPEAKER_05: That's not a period, bro.
- 1:47:32
SPEAKER_04: They don't keep going up and they don't drop every motherfucker.
- 1:47:39
SPEAKER_02: When the sexual maturity is when your ball drop, you know, when it starts getting that nice seminar in the body's coming.
- 1:47:57
SPEAKER_05: We got the subjects at the problem.
- 1:47:59
SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait, develop.
- 1:48:02
SPEAKER_04: That's not what he was nice semen, bro.
- 1:48:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, that's wild.
- 1:48:06
SPEAKER_05: But he develops semen.
- 1:48:07
SPEAKER_05: A male body develops demon.
- 1:48:09
SPEAKER_04: Why does it have to be nice?
- 1:48:10
SPEAKER_04: Why are you describing nice?
- 1:48:12
SPEAKER_05: Why did it have to be an ad adjective?
- 1:48:14
SPEAKER_05: My team is nice.
- 1:48:15
SPEAKER_04: It looked nice on a female face.
- 1:48:17
SPEAKER_04: This nigga assembled his own shit, man.
- 1:48:18
SPEAKER_04: Come on.
- 1:48:19
SPEAKER_04: Wait, so it looks nice on a female face and you only have a girl.
- 1:48:24
SPEAKER_04: You leading, you leading this guy together.
- 1:48:30
SPEAKER_03: Shut on the phone.
- 1:48:32
SPEAKER_03: Shouts to the ladies out there who are in love with the vegan semen.
- 1:48:35
SPEAKER_04: Holla, the vegan semen.
- 1:48:36
SPEAKER_04: Are you are you vegan?
- 1:48:38
SPEAKER_04: This nigga ain't no damn vegan.
- 1:48:41
SPEAKER_05: Like I said, that's when the male has their first period, when the body develops sexually.
- 1:48:46
SPEAKER_04: I don't think that's how it works, but you know what?
- 1:48:48
SPEAKER_04: Um So what is it?
- 1:48:49
SPEAKER_04: And it's organic water on him real quick.
- 1:48:51
SPEAKER_04: I think sexual maturity happens to a man when he stops masturbating every night.
- 1:48:56
SPEAKER_04: Every night once you break the every night cycle, sexually mature.
- 1:49:06
SPEAKER_03: Not every night, but no, you that's that's not a form of maturity.
- 1:49:11
SPEAKER_04: If you masturbate every night, you will not mature.
- 1:49:13
SPEAKER_04: Sexually.
- 1:49:14
SPEAKER_04: That's the masturbation problem.
- 1:49:16
SPEAKER_04: Some people need it to sleep, man.
- 1:49:17
SPEAKER_04: I've heard it all.
- 1:49:18
SPEAKER_04: I've heard it all.
- 1:49:19
SPEAKER_04: But uh come on, man.
- 1:49:21
SPEAKER_04: It definitely helps with the sleep.
- 1:49:22
SPEAKER_04: Does it actually help?
- 1:49:23
SPEAKER_04: Well, body releases.
- 1:49:25
SPEAKER_04: You know what the thing is?
- 1:49:26
SPEAKER_04: That's a wonderful nap.
- 1:49:28
SPEAKER_06: Oh, bro.
- 1:49:29
SPEAKER_06: Your body becomes masturbation is natural.
- 1:49:31
SPEAKER_06: Masturbation is actually bad.
- 1:49:33
SPEAKER_06: That's why it's bad.
- 1:49:34
SPEAKER_06: That's why that's for your bodily functions.
- 1:49:37
SPEAKER_06: Why?
- 1:49:38
SPEAKER_04: Said you ever fall asleep and forget to clean up.
- 1:49:40
SPEAKER_06: Oh man, never.
- 1:49:41
SPEAKER_06: I'm drip I've dripped I've drifted.
- 1:49:43
SPEAKER_04: When that crust forms, man, that's a bad thing.
- 1:49:46
SPEAKER_04: But no, masturbation is bad.
- 1:49:48
SPEAKER_06: That's why a lot of athletes don't do it because it leaves you fatigued after.
- 1:49:51
SPEAKER_04: Nigga, that's sex.
- 1:49:52
SPEAKER_04: No, no, what they still beat off.
- 1:49:54
SPEAKER_04: They don't boxers don't have sex before fighting.
- 1:49:57
SPEAKER_04: Masturbation takes this a whole no fat.
- 1:50:00
SPEAKER_04: Thing.
- 1:50:00
SPEAKER_04: Mother, that's the white guy thing.
- 1:50:01
unknown: No fat novel.
- 1:50:02
SPEAKER_04: I did that.
- 1:50:02
SPEAKER_04: I did that for a month.
- 1:50:03
SPEAKER_04: That shows one of the hardest tasks of my life.
- 1:50:05
SPEAKER_04: Father.
- 1:50:06
SPEAKER_06: You didn't feel vitalized.
- 1:50:07
SPEAKER_06: No masturbation.
- 1:50:08
SPEAKER_06: You didn't feel revitalized and getting no more energy.
- 1:50:10
SPEAKER_03: I think I went like fucking angry for that month.
- 1:50:16
SPEAKER_03: I went like fucking seven weeks, almost two months without a fucking ejaculation.
- 1:50:24
SPEAKER_03: Ejaculation.
- 1:50:24
SPEAKER_03: Bro.
- 1:50:24
SPEAKER_05: And you was an angry fucking man, weren't you?
- 1:50:26
SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you something.
- 1:50:28
SPEAKER_03: I was with this broad, right?
- 1:50:30
SPEAKER_03: In Atlanta?
- 1:50:33
SPEAKER_03: And I was with this broad, right?
- 1:50:38
SPEAKER_03: And my nigga, I have not felt the painful feeling of blue balls since a fucking tea.
- 1:50:49
SPEAKER_03: I thought this was a myth.
- 1:50:50
SPEAKER_03: Nah.
- 1:50:52
SPEAKER_03: I really, I really thought that I was, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:50:54
SPEAKER_03: And it and it just and it just didn't happen.
- 1:50:57
SPEAKER_03: And bro, I was in pain.
- 1:51:00
SPEAKER_03: Like I couldn't walk.
- 1:51:02
SPEAKER_03: It was horrible.
- 1:51:04
SPEAKER_03: Can't walk?
- 1:51:04
SPEAKER_03: How did that story end?
- 1:51:06
SPEAKER_03: He went home and broke that cycle.
- 1:51:07
SPEAKER_03: No, I really didn't.
- 1:51:08
SPEAKER_03: I was like, I'm already in this much pain.
- 1:51:10
SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, something ended up falling through.
- 1:51:14
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not really falling through, but something ended up happening for me, and uh, you know, I was taken care of.
- 1:51:18
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:51:20
SPEAKER_04: So how do you guys uh backpage?
- 1:51:23
SPEAKER_04: Backpage.
- 1:51:24
SPEAKER_04: Didn't they take that shit down?
- 1:51:25
SPEAKER_04: Nah, it's down.
- 1:51:26
SPEAKER_04: No, it's not.
- 1:51:27
SPEAKER_04: It's actually Madison Celon.
- 1:51:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:51:29
SPEAKER_06: Well, back up.
- 1:51:31
SPEAKER_06: Whoa.
- 1:51:32
SPEAKER_06: Back up page.
- 1:51:33
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:51:33
SPEAKER_04: I think that was uh we pretty much covered everything.
- 1:51:36
SPEAKER_03: Um we really didn't even um get on the last shit.
- 1:51:40
SPEAKER_03: R.
- 1:51:40
unknown: Kelly song.
- 1:51:40
SPEAKER_03: You want to talk about that?
- 1:51:41
SPEAKER_03: R.
- 1:51:42
SPEAKER_03: Kelly song next year was 20 minutes.
- 1:51:43
SPEAKER_03: R.
- 1:51:44
SPEAKER_03: Kelly has a name.
- 1:51:44
SPEAKER_03: Wait, he had a song for 20 minutes.
- 1:51:46
SPEAKER_03: And his brother dissed him back.
- 1:51:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:51:49
SPEAKER_03: Fill me the fucking.
- 1:51:50
SPEAKER_03: So long story short, R.
- 1:51:52
SPEAKER_03: Kelly made a song for 19 minutes, um, admitting everything that he did, that he's done.
- 1:51:58
SPEAKER_03: And he's basically telling, you know, allegedly.
- 1:52:01
SPEAKER_03: He's and and he's well, listen, he said it.
- 1:52:03
SPEAKER_03: It came out of his mouth, so it's not alleged at this point.
- 1:52:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:52:06
SPEAKER_03: Um, well, this is what he's alleging.
- 1:52:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's the thing.
- 1:52:09
SPEAKER_04: His side of the story.
- 1:52:10
SPEAKER_04: What he's saying.
- 1:52:10
SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
- 1:52:11
SPEAKER_03: So he's coming out saying everything of the closet that happened, or whatever happened with his case, and he's basically saying, like, yo, I did some shit, get over it, and move.
- 1:52:24
SPEAKER_06: So he admitted to the peeing.
- 1:52:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he didn't.
- 1:52:28
SPEAKER_04: He's still saying that was his brother.
- 1:52:31
SPEAKER_04: His brother did some back.
- 1:52:33
SPEAKER_04: But now this is my thing.
- 1:52:34
SPEAKER_04: That's F.
- 1:52:34
SPEAKER_05: Kelly.
- 1:52:35
SPEAKER_05: So, so wait, so wait.
- 1:52:36
SPEAKER_05: So he does all this, admits everything, and it's not.
- 1:52:40
SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm asking.
- 1:52:41
SPEAKER_06: What's the contents of the song?
- 1:52:42
SPEAKER_06: Did he just say, alright?
- 1:52:43
SPEAKER_04: If I make a movie about killing people, I'm not gonna do it.
- 1:52:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there was no rape that was taking place.
- 1:52:47
SPEAKER_06: OJ wrote a book about killing people, but like if I did it.
- 1:52:50
SPEAKER_05: But I think that they they settled it all.
- 1:52:53
SPEAKER_05: So this is where the fucking whole double jeopardy shit comes in.
- 1:52:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's a fucked up situation.
- 1:53:00
SPEAKER_03: I was just saying, like, the parents settled out of court.
- 1:53:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so it's it's over and done with.
- 1:53:05
SPEAKER_04: Soondocks made up the joke about the whole thing.
- 1:53:07
SPEAKER_03: I didn't really watch the whole fucking shit.
- 1:53:09
SPEAKER_06: You didn't watch the boondocks?
- 1:53:13
SPEAKER_05: So he's really getting away fucking right.
- 1:53:16
SPEAKER_04: You're missing out on culture, man.
- 1:53:20
SPEAKER_04: He's the goat.
- 1:53:21
SPEAKER_04: R.
- 1:53:21
SPEAKER_04: Kelly's the goat.
- 1:53:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's he R.
- 1:53:23
SPEAKER_03: Kelly's truly the goat, bro.
- 1:53:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's the greatest.
- 1:53:26
SPEAKER_03: He's the greatest uh he he does everything.
- 1:53:29
SPEAKER_03: He produces, writes, sings, and he writes his own shit, bro.
- 1:53:33
unknown: Exactly.
- 1:53:33
SPEAKER_03: He didn't just fuck a little.
- 1:53:34
SPEAKER_03: Have you seen have you seen like some some of his house?
- 1:53:37
SPEAKER_05: Like that shit is huge.
- 1:53:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:53:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:53:41
SPEAKER_05: That is some shit.
- 1:53:41
SPEAKER_05: You got to do it.
- 1:53:44
SPEAKER_05: To marry her.
- 1:53:46
SPEAKER_04: And he had to leave the country too.
- 1:53:47
SPEAKER_04: Nigga went to Cuba to do it.
- 1:53:49
unknown: And then came back.
- 1:53:50
SPEAKER_06: Black people in general as a whole are hilarious.
- 1:53:52
SPEAKER_04: Well, we've been doing that forever.
- 1:53:55
SPEAKER_05: Money's like some money from this situation.
- 1:53:58
SPEAKER_04: You go, you go, you go where it's legal.
- 1:54:00
SPEAKER_04: And she was um Vegas.
- 1:54:02
SPEAKER_04: She became a very big artist, you know.
- 1:54:06
SPEAKER_04: Leah was talented, man.
- 1:54:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:54:08
SPEAKER_03: Unfortunately, you know, her life was she was a gift, that was my girlfriend.
- 1:54:12
SPEAKER_04: She was a what?
- 1:54:13
SPEAKER_04: I was talking to you, Zab.
- 1:54:14
SPEAKER_04: You said she was a what?
- 1:54:15
SPEAKER_04: I didn't say nothing, but you know this is recorded, right?
- 1:54:17
SPEAKER_04: I love I love Aaliyah.
- 1:54:19
SPEAKER_04: You sound like Drake right now.
- 1:54:22
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:54:23
SPEAKER_04: Anything else?
- 1:54:25
SPEAKER_04: Are we gonna wrap?
- 1:54:26
SPEAKER_04: Wrap it up, then.
- 1:54:28
SPEAKER_04: Zab, take us out.
- 1:54:29
SPEAKER_04: This is the only thing you're good at.
- 1:54:32
SPEAKER_06: Um, this has not been judgmental money.
- 1:54:35
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:54:36
SPEAKER_06: This is not money.
- 1:54:37
SPEAKER_03: It sure has been judgmental money.
- 1:54:40
SPEAKER_06: This has been gas money, y'all.
- 1:54:42
SPEAKER_03: Alright, everybody, I want you to say bye to Zap.
- 1:54:44
SPEAKER_03: This is last week on the case.
- 1:54:48
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna put the poll up on Twitter.
- 1:54:51
SPEAKER_04: You guys can vote.
- 1:54:52
SPEAKER_04: Zap keep his job or not.
- 1:54:53
SPEAKER_02: Imagine we're gonna have Zap put it up on his Instagram.
- 1:55:00
SPEAKER_06: Zap put it on the gas money page.
- 1:55:03
SPEAKER_03: Well, guess what?
- 1:55:04
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have that many followers because you don't promote it.
- 1:55:08
SPEAKER_04: Listen to listeners, what, 25,000 followers?
- 1:55:13
SPEAKER_04: And if you if Zap keeps his dollars on the yard, alright?
- 1:55:16
SPEAKER_04: Get out of the vote.
- 1:55:19
SPEAKER_04: Perfect.