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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 24 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Mark, this is Checklise Happy Hour. And
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  Speaker 1: now the guy who originally posted pizza rat, J P. Shadre,
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  Speaker 1: we might be posting a new one at this rate.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We've got a program for
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  Speaker 1: you today, busy show ahead. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logaman coming up.
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  Speaker 1: He's in studio with a free agency review. He has
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  Speaker 1: been doing a deep dive into the tape and he'll
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  Speaker 1: have some answers on what these new free agents bring
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  Speaker 1: to the table. We'll hear from Pro Football Focus Director
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  Speaker 1: of Content Austin Gale, coming up at four thirty. PFF
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  Speaker 1: has a podcast series coming out in April following Aiden
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  Speaker 1: Hutchinson through his run at Michigan, with like over fifty
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  Speaker 1: interviews and volved in this podcast series. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: Austin and get his take on putting that together at
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  Speaker 1: least so far, and maybe some other thoughts about the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and we'll go around again NFL. Another week
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  Speaker 1: of big time, massive moves in the NFL, involving a
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  Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks. Wide receivers are moving now and there
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  Speaker 1: are draft picks and money flying all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff log'men joining us now and we've got a Twitter
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  Speaker 1: poll today. We want your input on this logs. UM
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  Speaker 1: did this earlier today on the Twitter poll. Yeah, okay
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  Speaker 1: at j P. Shadrick. Check out the Twitter poll. It
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  Speaker 1: was a conversation. Vote well, but not on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: You have a phone of your own. You can do
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  Speaker 1: it on your own. I know you're a big Twitter guy.
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  Speaker 1: So we had a conversation in the office today. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you have some insight to this. UM. You know the
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  Speaker 1: move the change chan at the game, the Jaguars games,
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  Speaker 1: move the chains, moved the chains, moved the chains. What
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  Speaker 1: is the word at the end? The options are move them? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: who are or huh? And right now we've got four
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  Speaker 1: votes of them say move them. But there's a caveat here.
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  Speaker 1: A bunch of responses say it's just move single word move.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think there's a chant at the stadium
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  Speaker 1: move those chains, move the chains, move the chains whatever. Move.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Well, you have headsets on. Probably
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  Speaker 1: you're working. Yeah, I mean that's why maybe part of
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  Speaker 1: the problem. Maybe I should take my headsets off, just
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  Speaker 1: so that I can participate in your Twitter poll. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can, you can participate. So you're asking
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  Speaker 1: me what I think? What do you think it is? Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, am I trying to? Here's the
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  Speaker 1: thing is it? Is it a is an opinion or
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  Speaker 1: is it a trivia question? I think it's an opinion
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  Speaker 1: because apparently there's a lot of different people who do
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  Speaker 1: it a lot of different ways. So you're saying, move
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  Speaker 1: those chains, move those chains, move those chains move, is
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  Speaker 1: what a lot of people are saying at it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in here outside move Yeah, okay, great, thanks Lougs appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: So are we Are we having this as part of
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  Speaker 1: the open of our show so that we can promote
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  Speaker 1: your own Twitter account? Okay? If it's good for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's good for me. Where the hell's this going? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I work with Pete Priscoe too much. That's what happens
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  Speaker 1: you work with Pete. So that's why do I need
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  Speaker 1: to start having Twitter polls on my handle? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's your account. You can do whatever the hell you want. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that JP. I'll I'll do some JP
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  Speaker 1: trivia and actually be opinion. I'll draw man let's get
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  Speaker 1: to it. I'm let me ask you a question. Where
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  Speaker 1: did this chant originate from? I think they've been doing
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  Speaker 1: it here since like day one? Well, some fans, where
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  Speaker 1: did it originate from? Oh? I have no idea. You
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  Speaker 1: tell me. I don't know. That's why I'm asking. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the team started, did this happen and like in the
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  Speaker 1: days of the Golden and the Four Horsemen? Oh? Probably
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  Speaker 1: not it Notre dame, just asking. I'm just asking them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a chance. I'm curious if like the
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Jacksonville Bulls had it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know in the old days. Now, I like, move those chains,
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  Speaker 1: Move those chains. Move move you think it is okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're in the majority. Move That's what's We'll follow up
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  Speaker 1: again later in the show. And you know, and what
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  Speaker 1: were the other options? Just real quick, because now that
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  Speaker 1: I understand the question, right, move them? Uh? Who are
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  Speaker 1: or huh uh? The say move them noises are a definite? No.
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  Speaker 1: Who is second at eight? No, that's like al Pacino
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  Speaker 1: and sent him a woman. No, Uh, huh is sevent
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  Speaker 1: m Let's move along. You've been in the film room
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  Speaker 1: doing a deep dive on these free agent editions. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you look personally? Don't like the term deep dive. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's brings up bad memories JP of of a certain
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  Speaker 1: head coach who used to work here, who used to
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  Speaker 1: all the time as if he was doing deep dives.
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  Speaker 1: But it's become very apparent that he never was doing
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  Speaker 1: any deep apparently. I did some film study on the
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  Speaker 1: free agent that the it's a better term. Way to
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  Speaker 1: use that term, I think. And uh, and where do
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  Speaker 1: you want to start. Let's start an offense and start
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  Speaker 1: with the biggest money name of them all. Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 1: came in for thirty seven million guaranteed dollars. Former second
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  Speaker 1: round pick out of A and M by the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen career touchdowns, but eleven of those over the last
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  Speaker 1: two seasons. It was a crowded wide receiver room in Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: What can he bring to the table. What did you
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  Speaker 1: see on tape with him? I think he's very a
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  Speaker 1: very explosive player. And when I say explosive player, that
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  Speaker 1: it's not just running the route, make a catch and okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's all all the game. That he can do things
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  Speaker 1: with the ball once he gets the ball in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: And he also can do some creative things besides just
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  Speaker 1: catch it. I think he does a very good job
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  Speaker 1: and does a very good job from the interior wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver positions, the slot or a second interior slot position.
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  Speaker 1: He does things that I think are very strong. From
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  Speaker 1: a backfield position. He can throw the ball. Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: can throw the ball. Yes, he can throw the ball
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  Speaker 1: and throw the ball very well. And he had actually
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  Speaker 1: a couple of throws last year. So don't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if they incorporate a Jacksonville Special type play with Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk throwing the football. Okay, yeah, but I will say
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  Speaker 1: this that he does occasionally have a drop. He's not
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  Speaker 1: perfect and making all the catches. Okay, he will have
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  Speaker 1: a drop occasionally. But I think the thing that impresses
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  Speaker 1: me most when I say explosive, he gets eight separation,
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  Speaker 1: he's got great acceleration and uh and he's very quarterback friendly,
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  Speaker 1: and I think King of Macardell was the first I
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  Speaker 1: think experience here in Jacksonville about being a quarterback friendly
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. When when receivers run routes, they they're obviously
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  Speaker 1: given a playbook, and on that playbook and the instructions
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  Speaker 1: read okay, ten yards, plant your right foot and then
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  Speaker 1: take two steps to your left and then the ball
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  Speaker 1: should be there. And professional football, it's not always the
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  Speaker 1: way it's drawn up or written up in a playbook.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes there's little nuances that a receiver can figure out.
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  Speaker 1: And that also comes with time of working with a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: For example of zone maybe route where he's running up
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  Speaker 1: the field, he does a release, gets outside and then
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  Speaker 1: he bends it in to create more space for the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback to throw. And so basically he's creating bigger windows
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  Speaker 1: for the quarterback. I think he does a really good
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  Speaker 1: job with that. And so his acceleration, the creation of
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  Speaker 1: bigger windows for the quarterback, the ability to have subtleness
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  Speaker 1: in his moves to create separation makes him very quarterback friendly. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you looked at the number of what he's getting
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed money wise, you would expect him to be this
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  Speaker 1: yard receiver, hundred yard receiver, and he he if he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get there, I mean, you're talking about a guy
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  Speaker 1: that averages about twelve yards a catch. You know it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of targets and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: catches for him to get to that point. But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a real good signing from the standpoint. Did
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  Speaker 1: you overpay him, Yes, but you got a really good
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  Speaker 1: football player that I believe the quarterback is gonna absolutely love.
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  Speaker 1: And on top of that, he is a willing blocker.
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  Speaker 1: He is willing to do some of the dirty work,
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  Speaker 1: and not just block for running backs and wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking he will come down on the inside because
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  Speaker 1: he's been mostly an inside player. He will come down
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  Speaker 1: on the inside and dig his safety out for a
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  Speaker 1: little inside zone plays allow the running back to spring.
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  Speaker 1: It so very impressive to me watching him, very excited
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  Speaker 1: about him because he's a guy that you can see
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  Speaker 1: will do all the things, the little things that it
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  Speaker 1: takes to win, and that I think is imperative, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you're in free agency. But Peterson, of course said
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  Speaker 1: that they plan on using him all over the offense,
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  Speaker 1: not just a slot I and see, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: And then maybe there are some matchups that you carry
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  Speaker 1: him outside. I don't envision him as this X or
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  Speaker 1: split in that is a guy that's just gonna take
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  Speaker 1: the top off of a defense play after play. I
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  Speaker 1: think his strength is change of direction, separation. Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know the four square drill, you know, where guys change
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  Speaker 1: the direction and accelerate. He I think he excels in that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why that he has
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  Speaker 1: gravitated towards that interior position, because that's what he's really
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  Speaker 1: good at. Get open quick and the balls on you
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  Speaker 1: and then make a play. After Buckey Brooks said he's
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  Speaker 1: more quick than fast. He's got speed now, right, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's got the first five ten yards from the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage. That quickness is important in that slot. I
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  Speaker 1: learned this from UM. One of the one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest wide receiver coaches was Jerry Sullivan that the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League has ever seen. And Jerry Sullivan was here
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  Speaker 1: for this period of time and one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that he taught was that you you never want your
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver running full speed all the time, which I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was kind of counterintuitive. Then why why would
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  Speaker 1: you not want your guys running full speed all the time?
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  Speaker 1: He said, you almost create kind of a tempo with
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  Speaker 1: your stride so that when you do open it up,
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit surprising to a defender. And uh.
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  Speaker 1: And the one thing that Christian Kirk does too, is
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  Speaker 1: that the subtleness of his moves, not so much the
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  Speaker 1: great speed or acceleration create that distance between himself and
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  Speaker 1: the defender. So, yes, he does have good speed. Yes
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  Speaker 1: he does have very good quickness. But then you add
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  Speaker 1: into that that he understands the routes and how to
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  Speaker 1: how to do subtle things within the route to create
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  Speaker 1: even more separation. And I think that gives him a
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  Speaker 1: lot of strength. One more, one more place, and in
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, I think we're gonna end
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  Speaker 1: up doing a little bit of video segment on Jackuar
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  Speaker 1: dot comedy. But but but I'm not my twitter count
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  Speaker 1: put on your Twitter. But one play that I will
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  Speaker 1: show is I think it was very interesting because think
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  Speaker 1: about who he was playing with last year. Okay, some
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  Speaker 1: excellent receipts. Jander Hopkins, A J. Green was still there, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then the quarterback, Okay, Kyler Murray. If you're Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray and you've got all those wide receivers, right when
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  Speaker 1: you get into a critical situation, who are you throwing
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  Speaker 1: the ball too? That's a good point. Yeah, Okay, most
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  Speaker 1: people would think that he's gonna go and and I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you a play that I'm onna show coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Jaguar dot Com in the next couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: because it was a fourth and five situation. Games on
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  Speaker 1: the line, quarterback has to make a play and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Christian Kirk releases. Then it appears
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  Speaker 1: that he's getting doubled. Initially on the left side, DeAndre
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  Speaker 1: Hopkins has single coverage, So if you're Kyler Murray, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing Hopkins? He actually came back to Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk because it wasn't a true double and he threw
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  Speaker 1: it to Christian Kirk. And I was going, Wow, that
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  Speaker 1: play so much from analyzing the play, but because of
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  Speaker 1: the decision of the quarterback told me a lot and
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  Speaker 1: that in a critical situation, Conner Murray was gonna trust
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  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk and a possible double double covered situation more
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  Speaker 1: so than he would trust DeAndre Hopkins sing covered on
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  Speaker 1: the outside. I thought that spoke a lot of volume
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  Speaker 1: about Christian Kirk. Very interesting. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: JP Shatdrick with Jeff Logman. We're taking a look at
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  Speaker 1: the free agent editions. After Jeff Lagman's film session. We'll
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  Speaker 1: say we're calling it please don't. You're not doing a
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  Speaker 1: deep die. Zay Jones comes in another second round pick,
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  Speaker 1: started in Buffalo and over to the Raiders. He was
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  Speaker 1: involved in a couple of big Jaguars games. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: won in that playoff game against Buffalo and then the
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  Speaker 1: final game in Oakland at the Coliseum. Jones was on
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders for that as well. But now he's with
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguar Ours and I think he got about fourteen
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  Speaker 1: million guaranteed. What do you think is a I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a solid wide receiver. Is is he overpaid? Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you do in free agency. I will say
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  Speaker 1: that he's had a couple of very highly productive seasons
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  Speaker 1: from the standpoint of if you look at what he had,
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  Speaker 1: what was it like three years ago when he was
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  Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. He had a year where he
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  Speaker 1: had I think it was a fifty some plus receptions.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, when you look at his numbers, he's
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  Speaker 1: about eleven eleven yards of reception, somewhere right in that range.
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  Speaker 1: I like the way he runs routes. He's got good speed.
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  Speaker 1: When I say speed, he's got good speed. He's not
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  Speaker 1: like a guy like Kirk that's got the acceleration or
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  Speaker 1: the change of direction. He's kind of a straight line
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  Speaker 1: guy and he can make some contested catches. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a good solid receiver. He's not like when you
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  Speaker 1: watch Kirk. I mean, there's things that Christian Kirk does
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  Speaker 1: and you go, wow, man, that's really really good man
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  Speaker 1: that boy. Look at the acceleration. Hey, look at the
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  Speaker 1: way he's going in there and getting a block on
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  Speaker 1: the safety. And when you turn on za, Jones said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's a good solid wide receiver, good solid
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is he better than good? No? Could he
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  Speaker 1: potentially be better? Well, I hope because he's still a
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  Speaker 1: relatively young player. But he's one of those guys that
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  Speaker 1: you can tell that he understands exactly what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: There's never any indecision in the way he plays the game,
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  Speaker 1: and so you see that he is well versed and
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  Speaker 1: what he needs to be and where he needs to
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  Speaker 1: be and when he needs to be there. And so
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  Speaker 1: from that aspect, I think a quarterback will be able
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  Speaker 1: to trust him. But from like if you compared Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk tos A Jones, I mean, Christian Kirk is going
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  Speaker 1: to become a favorite without a doubt of the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and z Jones will be definitely a guy that you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of add to the mix. Another final look
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  Speaker 1: at on the offense. We had Brandon Sheriff on the
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  Speaker 1: show last week, so refrain from him here. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to him late. We've got plenty of time to get
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  Speaker 1: to these guys. But Evan Ingram Jaguars have been searching
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  Speaker 1: for that tight end position for years and years, obviously
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  Speaker 1: throwing money a bunch of different ways at it, and
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  Speaker 1: really none of them have worked out. Last year, Dan
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  Speaker 1: Arnold had some moments after he came over in the trade,
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  Speaker 1: but and he was banged up. Evan Ingram comes in
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  Speaker 1: former first round pick out of Old miss and he
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  Speaker 1: had to go through a bunch of different quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: New York with the Giants. He did start off with Eli,
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  Speaker 1: though finished up with like five different guys, and Eli
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  Speaker 1: wasn't exactly in his heyday when when he was with Eli.
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  Speaker 1: But but Evan is a He's a what I call
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  Speaker 1: a move tight tight end kind of like what Dan
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  Speaker 1: Arnold is. And I think the combination of having both
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  Speaker 1: of those guys on the field will, I think be
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  Speaker 1: very interesting to see how defenses end up matching up
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  Speaker 1: with these two guys, because you would have two legitimate
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver type of tight end. Because make no mistake
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  Speaker 1: about it, Evan Ingram is not an on the line
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  Speaker 1: tight end. Dan Arnold is not an on the line
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  Speaker 1: tight end. These are smaller guys that are bigger wide receivers.
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  Speaker 1: And Evan Ingram if you if you ask him to
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  Speaker 1: line up on the line of scrimmage in the block
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  Speaker 1: a two and sixty five pound defensive vent who's a
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  Speaker 1: man eater, it ain't happening. Okay, it's not happening. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna try to get in the way, Okay, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be Marcedes Lewis. Okay. His strength is he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the quarterback's best friends to give
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback a lot of easy completions. He's got very
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  Speaker 1: good hands, he runs good routes, he's got some size
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  Speaker 1: to him. He does a much better job blocking when
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  Speaker 1: he has to do it against what I call second
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  Speaker 1: level type guys, safety's linebackers, guys that he matches up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more equally physically with. When he has
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  Speaker 1: to block a defensive end or a bigger defensive lineman.
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  Speaker 1: It's just doesn't look good. But he's got eight hands.
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  Speaker 1: He uh. I think the better the quarterback play, the
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  Speaker 1: better he will play. And it's interesting, you know, much
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  Speaker 1: like when you look at Christian Kirk and see what
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback decides to do with Christian Kirk on the field.
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  Speaker 1: I always look at with like a guy like Ingram.
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  Speaker 1: How do defenses play him? You know, who do they
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  Speaker 1: match up with him with? Do they use linebackers, do
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  Speaker 1: the use safeties, do they use defensive backs? Everybody for
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  Speaker 1: the most part almost always use corners and then safeties
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  Speaker 1: on him. And safety is a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: mismatch though. That's some of the skill set that he has.
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  Speaker 1: But that also tells you how they view his blocking skills,
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  Speaker 1: which is he's not a He's not breathing fire and
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  Speaker 1: ready to knock anybody off the ball. So from that aspect,
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  Speaker 1: he'll get treated more as a receiver than as a blocker.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: We are just getting started. Coming up at four thirty,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus previews the PF podcast
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: series on Michigan Defensive and the Hutchinson. But up next,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the film study continues with Jeff Lockerman on the Jaguars
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Defensive Editions and this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. I think there's a lot of upside
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to this organization. Uh at the end of the day,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: these guys, you know, definitely put a lot of trust
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in me. Uh That's why they came in and got
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: me in free agency, and I just want to bring
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I definitely worked hard to definitely bring a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: lot of you know, intelligence and to the defense and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: really just trying to bring people along with me is
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: what I talked about a lot today with some of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the coaches. So do everybody on that kind of hard
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and hard working mentality, kind of have you know, some
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: great chip on his shoulder and being able to grind
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and work to get better every day, Uh, get more wins.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Here for yer A Loukun, the Jaguars linebacker, and his
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: introductory press conference last week. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Ur J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lackerman, Print, Rebert, Joe fort
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Natog you're along with us. We are continuing Jeff Lagerman's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: film study or reviewing his film study of the free
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Agent editions for the Jacksonville Thank you for using the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: proper term. Yeah, I'm with you. Deep dives is done. Yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we're all I think we're all gonna pass that. So
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go to defense. Now. You heard from
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Foyer luikin league's leading tackler last season. What do you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like on tape? From the first off, He's always in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: or seems to be an incredible condition. What I mean
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: by that is that play after play after play, when
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you watch him, he can still play with the same intensity,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: in the same speed because he's obviously in great shape,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: which is not what you've seen around here lately, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that gives him the ability to play play after play.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: He is downhill. He diagnoses things fairly quickly. When I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: say fairly quickly, when he can be aggressive, he is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: incredibly aggressive and attack the line of scrimmage. And from
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that standpoint, he very impressive, very impressive. I don't want
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to say he is much like Pause, because Pause really
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: set a standard here, but he's as close to Pause
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: as I think you're gonna get as far as the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: diagnosing of plays really anticipates. Well in space, he does
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a good job. He's not great, but he does a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: really good job. So you combine. I think in the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: box area he is is really strong and does a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: good job in space, highly conditioned, plays every play with
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the same tempo and speed. I think he's a great
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: addition for this defense upfront. Fully Fedkasi twenty million dollars
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: guaranteed from the New York Jets, And we mentioned this
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: last week on the show Team Captain on defense and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: bringing in that the new culture and all that. A
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: couple of Team Captain sheriff has one in Washington and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Federkasi for the New York Jets. But a big fella
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: up front six four three eight team in the middle. Now,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: he's a big man, and to be honest with you,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the play of some of the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: interior guys was up to snuff last year. I thought
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Von Hamilton's had a disappointing year. Uh could this be
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a reaction to that. Maybe? I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: look at the reality is you create more competition, the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: better everybody will be. Fac is a guy that I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: remember when prior to us going up to New York
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to where the Jaguars we're gonna play the Jets. You know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you watch their defense and he was a guy that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: was stout. He was a guy that that watching the film.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: He could push the pocket. Is he a dominant pass rusher. No,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but he's a real, steady, good football player that's gonna
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: make plays for you in the run game. And uh
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and that's like Malcolm Brown. I mean, Malcolm Brown is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a really good football player. Is he a dominant football player? No,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: but he's a really good football player. And I think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Potokos is a little bit of a younger version, maybe
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a higher seilling version of that. I think he's gonna
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: bring something to this defense, and certainly something that they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: need because they need some more solid players that can
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: play closer to the middle. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: on tintinn Excel and Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and Jeff Logham and Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: coming up at four thirty. Just a few minutes away.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams at cornerback. Well, that room has become really
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: strong all of a sudden, with Shaq Griffin on one side,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell and they're going into year two. And now
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams, he's twenty nine years old. He's only been
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in the league a few years, though his college career
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was halted when you A B stopped the program. He
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: came back to Jacksonville for a little bit, and then
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the program came back. He went back to Birmingham and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was undrafted, worked his way from over to the Rams
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and a waiver claim in and then all the Jalen
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Ramsey stuff happened and that lockdown one side. He got
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of action on the other side in l
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: A And I think that that was good for him
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: because I think when you get a lot of action,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: then you have an opportunity to get better just because
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you're getting I don't want to say more reps, because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I mean you're still getting the same number of reps,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but you're getting more opportunities at making plays. And uh.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: The one thing that I think it's for sure is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that Darius Williams is not afraid to make a tackle.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He's not afraid to to be an aggressive I think
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: he he probably does a good job of film study.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But what because when you watch him play, you can
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: see that he's got a pretty good job of anticipating.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: He's got great speed, and I don't know that that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: he that he does a great job of film study.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: But when you watch certain guys play, when you watch
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a J boy a play, when a J was here
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and a J had a higher rated season than Jalen Ramsey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I just remember going, there's no way that this guy
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't study a lot. And then from talking to the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: coach that I found out that was the case that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a J studied the game and CREDI doably hard and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that's the same type of thing that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: going on here a young player that's you know when
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And I've kind of learned this through the years, players
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that don't have early success, like Darius Williams, because I mean,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: here's a guy that had to go about it the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: long way, right, they have learned a work ethic that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: somebody like Jaillen Ramsey may not have. And I'm not
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: saying that Jillen doesn't have a great work ethic because
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't been around much. He's got all world talent
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and things can't do right exactly. And so guys that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: typically are that are born and at an early age
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: had this great talent level have never really learned the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: work ethic to get to that high level because they've
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: kind of been there from their god given ability, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams is a guy that you can tell that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: he's got a good work ech, that you can tell
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: when you watch him play that that he plays the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: game with a little bit of anticipation, and that's obviously
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: through film Studdy. I think it's gonna be very interesting
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to see how they play these three corners. And I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be one of the big question marks
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: going into the O t A s, going to the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: mini camp, and then obviously going into training camp, because
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: until you see it, you really won't know what it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be. Will be fun to watch whenever they come
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: up with us, for sure, that's the defensive side of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the ball. And if you're watching us on Jaguars dot com,
• 26:22
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• 26:26
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• 26:29
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• 26:31
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• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's teal, it's got scratch pack written on the top
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of it. We're gonna open one up here. Not all
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the box is gonna be the same. They're all unique,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but they come with different things. Inside of them, like
• 26:44
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• 26:49
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• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Duvall season ticket member hatlocks. Yeah, I like that. It's
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  Speaker 1: not big enough for my I don't think. And then
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  Speaker 1: this might be I'm gonna guess this is probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the top ones of the fifty four because it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: got a Trevor Lawrence autograph jersey. And how about that?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Not the same you know, don't think you're gonna get
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence autograph jersey, but somebody will because this
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: one's going out. Unfortunately, it's not going home with me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: How about that? I like that. So if you're renewed
• 27:24
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• 27:26
  Speaker 1: If you haven't renewed for season tickets yet, you have
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: until Friday tomorrow before your seats are released, so you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: good size. Is that jersey just out of curiosity? It's
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a good question there, because you know, jerseys that are
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: made for the for the pro players of today. Okay,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: hold it up one time. Let's just out of curiosity.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I want to see if it would fit you. Oh yeah, absolutely,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: be very tight. But I'm not gonna wear Trevor Lawrence
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: autograph jersey. I'm gonna frame this thing. You kidn't me well,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know some people would wear that. But
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: my my point is is that the jerseys of today's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: players are so vastly different than they were a long
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: time ago because they're they're snug fit and literally sometimes
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it takes guys ten minutes to get into their shoulder
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: pads with their jerseys of nowadays. Let's say most things
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: are snug fit for me to these days. So if
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• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Austin Gale of Pro Football Focus joins us previewing an
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: upcoming Aidan Hutchinson podcast series on PFF. And this is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour Thursday afternoon, j P. Shadrick with
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman. Glad you're along with us. Today we've discussed
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the free agent additions for the Jacksonville Jaguars, at least
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the Big seven, the first seven film little bit we
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: haven't we have gotten him to him too much, not
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: too much. We've got some time for that. We got
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to that coming up in just a little bit. We
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: got through the wide receivers, the tight ends, and of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: course the defensive editions for the Jaguars. Let's switch gears,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: now loogs and go looking forward. Five weeks from tonight,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft gets underway in Las Vegas. The Jaguars,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, have the number one overall pick.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Let's go to online and a special guest joining us
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: now from Pro Football Focus, Austin Gale, director of content
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: for PFF, launching a four episode podcast series entitled hutch
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in April, and yes that hutch is Aiden Hutchinson. First off, Austin,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: thanks for the time. How you doing doing great man?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Yeah, no doubt so for interviewing
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: all these people around Aiden Hutchinson in his time in Michigan,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it's been you know, a little bit of rocky road.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: He was banged up, a little bit, missed some time,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: comes back last year he's a Heisman finalist. Um, you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: know how many people did you have to interview for
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: this podcast series? Yeah? I mean I wouldn't say have
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to interview. I wanted to interview a lot of these people,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and a lot of these have been set up by
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: our director Communications, David. So far. We also went to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the University of Michigan, so that process has been made
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: easier by him. But we've interviewed over fifty people, right,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We've been over fifty people talking to everyone we possibly
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: can to help tell Aidan Hutchinson's story, and a lot
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of it has been awesome and so consistent as well,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: but just the type of player and the type of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: human being Aidan Hutchinson is. I've interviewed pretty much every
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: member of his nuclear family, a lot of media, a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: lot of draft analysts, a lot of players that he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: played with, pretty pay Um, you know, Julius welsh Off,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: his roommate there at Michigan. It's been really, really fun
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: just finding out who Aidan Hutchinson is, right because everyone
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: talks about him. He's just projected number one overall pick,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: potentially a future Jacksonville Jaguar, and I really wanted to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: dig into the type of player. He is, the guy
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: on and off the field, and he's had, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a wild story, comes to Michigan as a four star
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: recruit where in the same jersey his dad did at
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the University of Michigan up to live a legacy with
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: how Ensen as his last name, and from there plays
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: right away, does not burn a red shirt gear, plays
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in that Don Brown defense, up and down with with
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Shawn Gary Quite pay, Chase Winnivitch, Josh h Cha finally
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: has this opportunity to be the guy on campus. In
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: COVID abbreviated season, also gets hurt, breaks his ankle six
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: snaps into the Indiana game and ultimately was gonna make
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a decision to go to the NFL Draft instead. With
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the injury and with the COVID abbreviated season, knew he
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: had more to prove. Came back in for his senior
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: season in Well, the rest is history, and he probably
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: made himself a lot more money. Austin and uh And
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: by the way, out of all these fifty interviews that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you conduct, by the way, you know, this is really
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: kind of a vetting process. If you find out any
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: blemish whatsoever, please let us know so that we can
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: pass that on to the people here that make those decisions.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Because when you invest the kind of money that the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna invest in the first overall pick. You
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: gotta know everything. I haven't found a blemish yet. I'll
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: say that it's been tough dude talking to his dad
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: for an hour and a half, his mom for an hour,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: all these different draft analysts, all these coaches, right. Some
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of the more fascinating interviews that I've done have been
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: talking to coaches that have coached against him. I talked
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinator for the University of Watchington that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: he went toe to toe within week two and said,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. You talked to Western Michigan,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: who played him in week one, was watching Baltimore Ravens
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: film to get a read on the defensive porter to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's offense or defense, and he's said, I didn't
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: know what to do. We tried to run away from
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: trying Chip. We try to do all these things, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: he's a very difficult player to game plan for. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that's what I found out time and time again talking
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to these opponent coaches. I think my favorite interview has
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: probably been Penn State offensive line coach Philip trout Wine
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: talking to him about what are you telling your offensive
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: tackles to do when you get in these situations with
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Aidian Hutsons. They don't block him one on one. Right,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need a tight end, you're gonna need a
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: running back, and you're gonna need to run the football
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: far and far away from Maiden Hutchinson. Yeah, Austin, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I played the position somewhat because he's a stand up
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: more of a stand up type of a guy. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: when I was in college, I was a stand up
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: middle linebacker, but when I was in the pros, I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: was a defensive end. So I watched that position with
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: great interest, and and watching the film on Aiden Hutchinson,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I can't find as a guy that played that position.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I can't find anything that he does not do well.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I don't find any weakness. I don't see any weakness.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: He's got a tremendous motor. He uh excels in every situation,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: whether it's something that requires speed, stamina, strength, he does
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: everything exceptionally well. And so many different people probably want
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to type cast him into a four or three or
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: three four at PFF. What do you guys think he
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: is gonna be or where he should be. I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: he can play both positions really well, whether his hands
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in the ground or it's up. It's kind of up
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to him and the team that wants to play him.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Talking to his agent and talking to Aiden specifically, so
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he kind of prefers playing with his hand out of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the ground, but he said, I'll do whatever it takes.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I'll play nose tackle in the NFL if that's what
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I have to do, if that's a team asked me
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to do. I do think he's best on the edge
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and being able to pin his ear back and pin
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: his ears back and rush the pastor with a hand
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: out of the ground. I think that's what's been and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: really really where he's had the most success. Right, He
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: did a lot of that, that fascility, and I think
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you're a hundred per set right. You hit the nail
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: on the head. I'm just like the type of player
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: he is. He's a complete player. Talking to head coach
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, he just checks every single box, athleticism, intangibles, production, measurables,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: all these different boxes you need to check to be
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a numbered overall pick, to be a top five pick
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's exactly what Aidan Hutchinson checks there
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan. There's strength and conditioning, coach
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Ben Herbert, who's been there since, has molded Aidan Hutchinson's body.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: They test forty one different key key performance indicators or
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: KPI is like neck inflection, hip abduction, all these different things.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: He is a plus across the board, the best they've
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: seen over the last two years. Aidan Hutchinson is the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: freak of nature coming out of Michigan. Austin Gale with
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: us from Pro Football Focus. I don't even want to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: know what I would grade on those logs. I can't,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I can't. You wouldn't do very well, probably would do
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: very well. You know, there's there's a lot of Georgia
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: people around here, Austin, right, So what we hear a
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: lot from at least the Georgia fans is oh, the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Georgia offensive line ran this guy over. What was his
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: response his camps response to that game? And it's really
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  Speaker 1: just one game and he can't really judge it on
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: one performance in one postseason game, can't you. I feel
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Aiden's response to that game, specifically where he knows he's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: gotten a lot of criticism, has been spectacular and that
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: he knows he did not play a perfect game and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that one but also understands that Kirby Smart and Todd
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Monk and the opposite coordinator there for the University of
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Georgia specifically created a game plan to where Aidan Hutchinson
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and the other edge there, David A. Java, would not
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: beat them right. A lot of quick game got the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: ball out quickly ran away from them to really make
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: sure that Aidan Hudson couldn't take over the game like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: we saw in that Ohio state when they had an
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: inn arbor and talking to draft analyst Dame Brugler of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the Athletic Bucky Brooks of NFL Media, Downiel Jeremiah. Everyone
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: has the same reaction when you go back and watched
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: all twoint two. If anything, Georgia tipped their cap. The
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson showed a huge sign of respect to Aidan
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson with how they game plan to make sure they
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: he couldn't beat them right and now he could have
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: had a better game there. Obviously is that play against
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Mary Salier where he gets put on his butt, But
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like that, in my opinion, is an overreaction or recency
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: bias to say that knocks him down a peg or whatever.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I've also talked to to Mar Saier that left tackle
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: there for George and he even speaks to just the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: dominance that Aidan Hutchinson was and how hard it was
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to prepare for a player like him. All Right, Austin, PFF,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I think does a great job with the National Football
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: League throughout the year. Love your guys stuff, find ways
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to get different pieces of information, and uh, it's very valuable.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: P F also does kind of a ranking if I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: am correct, about the prospects that are coming out in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the draft class this year. And Aidan Hutchinson is he
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: at the top, And if you wouldn't mind, please share
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the top five that you have in order, let's go. Yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson right now is the best player on PFF
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: draft board. And for good reason. Right he is a
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: phenomenal player, like I said, checks all these different boxes
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that we want to check when we see a player
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that's production, measurables, intangibles, Athleticus is him. It's exactly what
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: he is. Forty one different kpi is there at the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: University of Michigan, according to strength and conditioning coach Ben Herbert,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and he's a seen every single one number two player
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: on PFF. Strafford is Notre Dame Safety cal Hamilton's. There
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: are people that think cal Hamilton's might fall outside the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: top eight, outside the top ten. I don't know who
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: those people are, but they're wrong. Halla Hamilton's is a
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: freak of nature. Yeah, he doesn't play a high value
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: position when you look at how much safeties are paid
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's two dang good to fall much
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: further past eight with the Atlanta Falcons. I think there's
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a legitimate chance he goes number two to the Detroit Lines.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's how good how Hamilton's is. At number three,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: we actually have Derek Stickley Jr. Of l s U,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: which a lot of that is a projection, right. He
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: has not had the year or the years that we've
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: expected from him since he had that insane true freshman
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: season for l s U in twenty nineteen. But what
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: he is and what he can be if fully healthy,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I do think it's truly special. At number four, it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the second best edge defender in this class. In my opinion,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: it's Cavon Thibodeau of the University of Oregon. I do
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: think that a lot of the narrative around Cavon Thibodeau
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: is is exagerated. It's it's exaggerated to a degree. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: think that he's a very confident player and he believes
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in himself. And while he does have interests outside of football,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really good football player too. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: think what he can be in the NFL could be
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: as special is Aidan Hutchinson right. He has all the tools,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he has all the measuables. I'd be absolutely forward if
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: he makes it pass to Jets at number four overall
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and then at number five kind of surprised to a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people, but we have Charles Cross the Mississippi
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: State Office. Tackle is not just the best off of
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the tackle in this class, but the number five overall player.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Guy that's graded super well for PF as a pass
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: protector in that Mikey jo offense ATMISSFIC Mississippi State. And
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: another guy too that is a very smooth moving athlete
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: at the position. I agree with with your rankings, with
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the exception of your number five, I would change the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: tackle from MENCI State and put him at number five.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I love that Ikey Kwana is my guy. I'm a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: huge fan of Iki Kuana nsy State, who's the highest
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: grade of run blocking opfitie tackle according to PFF this
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: past season, and everyone talks about Trevor Penning, right, Trevor Penning,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the University of Northern Iowa officite tackle being this nasty,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: gritty player. Ikey Kwanu is exactly that man. He doesn't
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: have to he just doesn't have the penalties that Trevor
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Penning does have. I think Fonder doesn't get enough credit
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: for how nasty of a player he is. I think
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: there's room to improve as a pass protector, but it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: another really explosive athlete that has vastly, vastly improved of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the course of his career at nc States. Another player
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I've talked to Autan. He has the same agency, same
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: marketing agency, Radian Sports with Aidan Hutchinson, a guy that
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I've talked to a ton. Aiden has talked to a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: ton in this process. A super nice guy that I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: do think has all the tools on and off the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: field to develop into a phenomenal player in the NFL.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Austin Gale from Pro Football Focus. The podcast series is
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: entitled hutch Following Aiden Hutchinson through his journey at Michigan.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: When does It Drop? When's the first one? Come out, Austin,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that will be scheduled for April or excited at least
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: all episodes on the same day the date tv D
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but it will be in April. Okay, all four in
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: one day. I mean, this is this is a Stranger
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Things drop here, this is a Netflix style drop. We're
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: going all in there making sure you guys can you guys?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Can you guys can binge watch all night long with
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the popcorn? All right? Give him a follow Austin Gale,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the time and thanks for the insight. We'll
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: talk to you again down the line. Absolutely, thank you
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• 40:18
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• 40:20
  Speaker 1: can get ahold of a PFF report, there's always some
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: kind of nuggets of information that you wouldn't even have
• 40:27
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• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the County. Oh no, no, no, no no. It is
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the foot front of the Football Performance Center outside t
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: i A bank Field and it's muddy. Let's put it
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that way. It's been raining for two days straight. There's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not a lot of work being done today, a lot
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: of sitting around and waiting for the sun to shine
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: again and things to dry up. They have poured some concrete,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: some foundational work over the last weeks. When the County landfill,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I mean you've got a lot of dirt, and you've
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: got a lot of holes and piles of dirt, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: so I mean I'm not trying to be funny or anything.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying at first, when you look at it,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you got equipment and a bunch of stuff laying around,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: so it doesn't look exactly like it's any kind of
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: gonna go in any direction. Well, I think it is
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: supposed to be open for business free training camps, so
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: it's got a little while to watch it grow. Yeah,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: but here's the thing. You know, it's gonna be interesting
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to see the time frame because you're trying to get
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: this ready for But look, also, you're you're on a
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: little bit of a deadline as far as getting some
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: fields back up and ready and ready to go for
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a season in two So I mean, how is all
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of that gonna work? I mean, I'm not on the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: on the planning board of that, but I would be
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: curious to know at some point, how are they gonna
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know, because you have the indoor facility, you have
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the field here inside of the stadium, you know. I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: obviously they will use some some of those components to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: get them through some of the stages they're gonna be happening,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: but by training camp, you would think that that, okay,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: those fields need to be ready and hopefully they will be.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Let's uh here from all people, Fred Taylor. He was
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a surprise guest yesterday morning on Good Morning Football on
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: NFL Network. It was Maurice Jones Drew's birthday yesterday. Take
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a listen. I remember Fred before all the media stuff.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Now he's a media mogul. You know, I had listen.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I just want to know when can I get on
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Pivot? I want I don't you know, I don't
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: want to be like a b and put the mask on.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I just want to sit back and chill, maybe have
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: some koon yak is something and kick back, you know
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: what I mean talking, you know, whatever it is. I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: got your birthday bottle on deck. Uh. You know our schedules,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Din allow us to cross paths when you were just
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: recently here in South Florida. But we'll we'll get it
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: lined up. Certainly, we'd love to have you on this show,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. Of course, Sarah cost on Postgame Radio and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: has fairly recently started a new podcast. Ryan Clark is
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: a part of that as well, called The Pivot. It's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: on their YouTube channel and they do a great job.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: They just had to steve to day Smith a couple
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago, they had Antonio Brown on the show.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, they get some big time names that come
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: in and sit down. It's three guys interviewing the one.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: It's having having Antonio Brown's a little bit of a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: clown show. It was something that was quite an episode.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so that was good to see on on
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: NFL Network yesterday. Let's go around the NFL. Let's do that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Let's there's been a big money a lot of people
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: moving around the NFL, including DeShawn Watson. Big money with
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. How about that. I just think it's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. I I can't see how a team would
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: commit that much and guaranteed money to a player that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: has this this cloud of suspicion, this unresolved civil cases, slash,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: unresolved possible indictment in a different county besides Houston, the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: second grand jury that could charge him. That story came
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: out just a few hours. I think it just it
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: just goes to owe you that you'll do anything to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: get a quarterback and how important that position is, including
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: making maybe a deal with the devil. And I'm not
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: saying he's the devil. I'm just saying is that you
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: can't guarantee that kind of money for a player that
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that has those issues, in my opinion, shocking the player
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: who does not have those issues, as Matt Ryan. He's
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: heading to the Indianapolis Colts after fourteen years in Atlanta.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, has an m v P Trophy. He was
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: three lead in the Super Bowl that slipped away as
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: they kept throwing the football around. But Matt Ryan, after
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that really nice career in Atlanta, Let's let's see if
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Indy um it's the move Indy needs. And well, they
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: guaranteed the rest of his contract. I'm not happy about
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: that because I think the Colts have seriously upgraded their
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: quarterback position from Carson Wentz. I was kind of hope
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and that they would be stuck in no quarterback lane.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: But kudos to them for because Matt Ryan. Obviously, with
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the situation with the Atlanta Falcons courtship of Deshaun Watson themselves,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the ship had sailed when it came
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to Matt Ryan and uh and he's as good of
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a quarterback as you could get at this point of
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the game. So the one guy that's kind of still
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: floating out there now is Baker Mayfield. I think he
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: is the next quarterback domino to fall at some point,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: But where I don't know. I think I think that's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: a great question. Seattle. Possibly, Yeah, yeah, possibly Seattle. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: think that would be a good fit for for him. Uh.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: The reports are people are saying that Baker Mayfield needed
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: a big slice of humble pie. Could this be it
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield? They felt that he was getting a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: little bit too big for his bridges in Cleveland, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: uh needs a little bit of a dose of reality.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Well this is certainly a big dose of reality because
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: they gave a guy that has a big cloud over
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: his head a ton of guaranteed money. And uh, the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, who who Baker Mayfield wanted to be traded to,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: traded for Matt Ryan. So if that doesn't do it,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else would. And then Tyreek Hill
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to the Dolphins money? How about this scain big money?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I mean the draft picks that the Browns gave up
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, the draft picks that the Miami Dolphins
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: gave up for Tyree Hill, and then not to mention
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the amount of money that they're having to pay these guys.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's that there There has never been a free
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: agent period in NFL history like this year. Never, never.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: The quarterback position almost never changes shape, and it changed
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: across the league this year. Big name players, big name
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: players changing team and they're all coming to the a
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: f C too, you be, And it's and it's not.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's not as if these are free agent moves. These
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: are are guys in our contract that are getting traded away.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady comes back, Yeah, he's back, And that was
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: That's like way down the list of storyline. It's really
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it's just faded into oblivion now with all the recent happenings.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: You know. It's the Rams model though, right they they
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: said forget them picks, except use a different word, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you can say that when you stink at picking. If
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: you're good at picking, keep the picks. And the key
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: is that you're gonna be like the Ravens, the Patriots,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, the teams that are perennial winners. Oh, by
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the way, what do they do. They take the picks
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and they pick good player and development. And okay, so
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: if you want to be a winner year after year
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: after year, keep those picks and make good selections. Yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I look around the NFL our thanks to and it's crazy,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: crazy Tyree. And here's here's the thing. We're talking about
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: two guys that don't exactly have pristine backgrounds. And Shawn
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Watson has the big cloud of suspicion over his head.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Let's not forget not long ago had a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: major issue. There's a couple of INFID instances in his past. Yes, So,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and these guys are getting the kind of contracts that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: they are. Wow, what you got this week? Clogs? What's
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: coming up? You got the video series? When's that happening? Uh?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Next week we're probably gonna do some filming. And so
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks, some uh, some video
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: stuff on the free agents. And then you know, I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: started watching some of the prospects. Uh, Aidan Hutchinson watched him,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Thibodeau watched him, and we can talk about them at
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: some point. Your guy from Alabama, the left tackle Evan Neil,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: who I'm not a big fan of. I don't think
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: he is even in the cam versation about being the
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: first overall pick of the draft. Cross from Mississippi State,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and uh, and I do want to say his name,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the guy from NTY statement Ikuana. Alright, that'll do it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: We'll got three more shows until the draft. And for
• 50:15
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• 50:19
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