Latest / The Breakfast Club / No Ceilings: Conversations About Drake’s Lawsuit
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
- 0:04Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
- 0:07Speaker 1: loaw glasses malone check check check. Yeah, we're finna get
- 0:26Speaker 1: to it. An emergency broadcast. You feel me for today
- 0:30Speaker 1: because uh, it's some unprecedented, unprecedented things that's happening in
- 0:35Speaker 1: hip hop. Crooked Cam, they've been in hip hop before
- 0:40Speaker 1: I even thought about getting this thing we called the
- 0:43Speaker 1: record business.
- 0:46Speaker 2: You feel me.
- 0:46Speaker 1: They they've they've Yeah, they've been in this thing for
- 0:51Speaker 1: I even thought about being a rapper anything. And I'm
- 0:55Speaker 1: sure this is a first for them.
- 0:58Speaker 2: I'm sure this is a first for them.
- 1:00Speaker 1: So we go really get into this conversation really quick
- 1:04Speaker 1: soon as still pops back on here so we could
- 1:06Speaker 1: adjustice screen. But it's definitely one of those days.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Pete.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Did you read up on it?
- 1:15Speaker 4: I read up on it a bit, and I don't
- 1:16Speaker 4: know that much in this particular area of civil law,
- 1:20Speaker 4: but I know this much. When a rap beef bleeds
- 1:23Speaker 4: into the course, I'll put my money on the half
- 1:26Speaker 4: Jewish guy every single day and twice on the shops.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith is gonna work out for him.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I don't think he Jewish Enough's cotton the rock.
- 1:40Speaker 5: At the hard Place.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I think you've played against the real This ain't the
- 1:44Speaker 1: South Bay Lakers. He played against the Los Angeles Lakers.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It's a different game. It's a different game.
- 1:52Speaker 5: Up here with the real Unsino Lakers.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Still is slowing the stream down? Come on still? Where
- 2:01Speaker 1: you at?
- 2:03Speaker 2: There you go?
- 2:05Speaker 3: There you go. I was looking.
- 2:12Speaker 5: You're a great You never looked at you.
- 2:14Speaker 2: You put it on your phone instead?
- 2:17Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I want to put it on my phone
- 2:18Speaker 3: when he tell be playing.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Around we got that bad audio happening.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know what. I don't know what it is, broke,
- 2:25Speaker 3: but I ain't never done that before anyway.
- 2:29Speaker 1: No Silings live the Lunch Hour. No, no, this is
- 2:33Speaker 1: the podcast. We're just doing it live. This is an
- 2:38Speaker 1: unprecedented time in hip hop, in rap music. Some of
- 2:44Speaker 1: this stuff never in life happened. I cannot believe this
- 2:49Speaker 1: is happening. This is an important time. So I brought
- 2:53Speaker 1: some really special people. I brought Crooked Eye, and I
- 2:56Speaker 1: brought my big brother Cam. I brought my brother Pete,
- 3:02Speaker 1: and I brought Stell so we could really unpack this thing.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Because I've been talking to my homeboy lit Pappy, he
- 3:12Speaker 1: Poppy is driving me crazy. It's silliness and people are
- 3:16Speaker 1: not being honest about what they are witnessing. Cap you
- 3:22Speaker 1: should be in court right now. You should be in
- 3:26Speaker 1: court right now because you are in a battle.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Somebody should sue you.
- 3:35Speaker 3: He lawyer.
- 3:39Speaker 2: The reason we are here is Drake. Drake has soon.
- 3:47Speaker 1: He accuses you MG and Spotify of manipulating the market
- 3:53Speaker 1: to artificially inflate Kendrick Lamar's disk track not Like Us.
- 3:58Speaker 1: The court filing claims un GU, Spotify, and Apple Serie
- 4:04Speaker 1: to push Not Like Us over Drake tracks. Employees perceived
- 4:09Speaker 1: as lawyer to Drake were allegedly fired as part of
- 4:13Speaker 1: an effort to cover up un g's action. UMG paid
- 4:18Speaker 1: influencers and radio stations to boost Lamar's songs without disclosure.
- 4:25Speaker 1: A whistleblower revealed Box generated thirty million early streams for
- 4:30Speaker 1: Not Like Us. Drake is accusing UMG and Spotify of
- 4:37Speaker 1: violating the RICO Act and a New York law h
- 4:44Speaker 1: I mean so bad he decided to sue his own
- 4:50Speaker 1: label that they are both signed to.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Now.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Listen, Crooked, listen, Cam, y'all have been in hip hop
- 5:00Speaker 1: for sure, big Bro, you've been in hip hop as
- 5:01Speaker 1: long as I can remember. Yeah, Crookeet, you've been in
- 5:04Speaker 1: hip hop at least thirty years for sure, for sure,
- 5:07Speaker 1: for sure. Now not at the professional level, I would imagine.
- 5:11Speaker 1: I don't know if he was professionally signed in nineteen
- 5:13Speaker 1: ninety four, but I know it was getting close to
- 5:15Speaker 1: when Cricket I was getting his first record deal around
- 5:18Speaker 1: not within that six seven years. Is this by far
- 5:23Speaker 1: the greatest distract of all time? Just at least off
- 5:28Speaker 1: of the reaction, off of the behavior. See I know
- 5:33Speaker 1: when I'm talking to g he said the greatest, greatest.
- 5:47Speaker 1: So with that being said, I can agree with you
- 5:50Speaker 1: on that, big Bro. It's the biggest. It's the biggest
- 5:55Speaker 1: to ever.
- 5:56Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, well, it had you know,
- 6:00Speaker 6: the table has been set for it to become one
- 6:02Speaker 6: of the greatest disrecords ever because we are in the
- 6:05Speaker 6: social media technology streaming era, and the globe is connected
- 6:10Speaker 6: in ways that the globe was not connected with some
- 6:12Speaker 6: of our favorite disc records.
- 6:14Speaker 7: Drop, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:15Speaker 6: So the table is set for it to be one
- 6:18Speaker 6: of the greatest, if not the greatest, this record.
- 6:21Speaker 7: And let me just put this out here.
- 6:23Speaker 6: Same day that it dropped, I went on record on
- 6:27Speaker 6: my Instagram same day and I said, Kendrick just dropped
- 6:30Speaker 6: the top five disc record of all time.
- 6:33Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
- 6:34Speaker 6: And they can go back and check my Instagram same
- 6:36Speaker 6: day a drop because.
- 6:38Speaker 7: I understood the frequency he was on.
- 6:40Speaker 6: I understood that he was touching a nerve and he
- 6:44Speaker 6: was moving the street culture in a way that you know,
- 6:49Speaker 6: once the youngins in the streets get something, it's very
- 6:51Speaker 6: hard to stop, you feel me. So he did that
- 6:56Speaker 6: and I recognized it right away. So yeah, I ain't
- 6:59Speaker 6: mad at that.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Set me bro, big bro, you you you released this
- 7:06Speaker 1: tracks in the history of West Coast music, one of
- 7:10Speaker 1: the most scathing disc tracks, like like hot acid, burn
- 7:17Speaker 1: skin off your body.
- 7:22Speaker 8: Mmhmm.
- 7:23Speaker 9: I think man, I think it's the greatest man. You know,
- 7:29Speaker 9: every every generation had a had a sound that they
- 7:34Speaker 9: think is is tight, you know to the youngsters. Now
- 7:37Speaker 9: we might sound out dated or something like that. So
- 7:39Speaker 9: this is the language, just the vibe. This the frequency
- 7:41Speaker 9: that the youth is on, and the youth always run revolution.
- 7:45Speaker 9: You know, you got older here is like like myself
- 7:47Speaker 9: might be behind the scenes trying to trying to give
- 7:50Speaker 9: guidance to them. But the youth gonna do what they're
- 7:52Speaker 9: gonna do. You know what I'm saying. The youth is
- 7:54Speaker 9: gonna they gonna run it. And uh, from what I
- 7:57Speaker 9: can see, this is this is the greatest dis record
- 8:00Speaker 9: of all of all time.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Like, you know, what.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Could you imagine if if Q would.
- 8:10Speaker 8: Assuthe you did?
- 8:15Speaker 2: But I mean it happened, na.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Big bro.
- 8:20Speaker 1: You you you saw Hupac. You saw hit him up
- 8:25Speaker 1: up close and personal. Yeah right, like still you saw
- 8:29Speaker 1: hit him up close, up close and personal. You saw
- 8:32Speaker 1: no vassiline. You were coming into your adulthood around that time.
- 8:35Speaker 1: You know, you was barely hitting twenty. You saw ether.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Have you ever saw a dis track that made somebody
- 8:44Speaker 1: react like this? You even saw fifty this job ruthe.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Man, this is the worst. This is the craatest dis
- 8:53Speaker 3: track of all time. It's almost like he's pulling this
- 8:56Speaker 3: dude in Gona.
- 8:57Speaker 8: Tell absolutely this dude is crying.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Man, this dude is really sad right now. And I'm
- 9:02Speaker 3: gonna tell you what it is. This dude is almost
- 9:05Speaker 3: just being overwhelmed right now. Man, Kendrick, You know, not
- 9:11Speaker 3: only did he slapt him around with the record, but
- 9:13Speaker 3: then he comes out with one of the greatest albums of.
- 9:15Speaker 2: All time, is a really great album.
- 9:19Speaker 3: So this dude is just like, he's just discombobulated right now. Man,
- 9:23Speaker 3: i'ma be real with you. I'm really worried about Drake
- 9:25Speaker 3: right now. Man, I'm thinking about calling my people because
- 9:28Speaker 3: they didn't even play with I think he's something from depression.
- 9:30Speaker 10: Man.
- 9:30Speaker 3: This dude might mess around, timp off a bridge or something.
- 9:32Speaker 9: Man, he need that wellness check. Man.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Well, Canadians are not a wartime people, and that's not.
- 9:43Speaker 3: What I'm I'm being dead serious. I ain't joking, man,
- 9:47Speaker 3: Drake is going through something right now, and ain't nobody
- 9:49Speaker 3: in this camp man enough to tell a man you're
- 9:51Speaker 3: looking real crazy right though? Man, you think he cares
- 9:55Speaker 3: about you?
- 9:58Speaker 6: Think he cared about the optics, because I'm sure when
- 10:01Speaker 6: you are a big a brand as big as Drake,
- 10:05Speaker 6: everything that you do is well at least communicated amongst
- 10:09Speaker 6: your team. So they had to understand that it would
- 10:14Speaker 6: be some backlash. Even though we in a different era
- 10:17Speaker 6: like this era, It's been proven over the last decade
- 10:21Speaker 6: that a rapper can damn near do anything and if
- 10:23Speaker 6: he drop a hot song, it'll be forgiven.
- 10:29Speaker 3: He fuck, he don't drop a couple of duds in
- 10:31Speaker 3: the road. Dog, it's over with Dog.
- 10:34Speaker 4: I think this is different, like the house has been
- 10:38Speaker 4: burned down. Like I in the first seventy two hours,
- 10:44Speaker 4: I was like this song not that beyond the verses,
- 10:50Speaker 4: I haven't heard this track that had to hook it
- 10:52Speaker 4: like rocked, like in the club and shit like that.
- 10:54Speaker 4: But besides that, what Kendrick did. He kicked Drake out
- 10:58Speaker 4: of a community. He did that in seventy two hours.
- 11:04Speaker 4: He made him walk that they were all at they
- 11:07Speaker 4: he made him walk the plank and he's trying to
- 11:09Speaker 4: sue his way back onto the boat.
- 11:13Speaker 7: So so do you think so do you think that
- 11:16Speaker 7: is uh?
- 11:17Speaker 6: That his personal community that he's built up, that's a
- 11:21Speaker 6: pretty big community. I mean when I'm on when I'm
- 11:25Speaker 6: on Elion's Act, they already saying he not suing Kendrick,
- 11:32Speaker 6: He's swing. UMG, this ain't about the rap beef. This
- 11:35Speaker 6: is about business that he has a lot of people
- 11:39Speaker 6: already forming that perspective and trying to push that narrative.
- 11:44Speaker 3: You gonna understand this was right for He's like Taylor Swift.
- 11:50Speaker 3: He like the Backstreet Boys. You go ahead, the little
- 11:52Speaker 3: fan based like Beyonnest they got to be he go ahead.
- 11:55Speaker 3: The drinks whatever they call these, the drinks. You have
- 11:58Speaker 3: the tricks in this corner like ye. But I'm gonna
- 12:00Speaker 3: tell you, man, I heard this man's.
- 12:01Speaker 7: Mom even locked him out the house dog.
- 12:05Speaker 8: He's this.
- 12:06Speaker 5: This is the of getting knocked out and then like trying.
- 12:10Speaker 4: To readjudicate whether or not the guy had juiced up gloves.
- 12:19Speaker 6: I think, I think the I think what's gonna happen?
- 12:24Speaker 6: You got a worst case scenario, in the best case scenario,
- 12:26Speaker 6: best case scenario. They they don't they they don't even
- 12:30Speaker 6: entertain this. Somebody in his ear telling them to go
- 12:32Speaker 6: on ahead and drop that. Don't even proceed to try to,
- 12:36Speaker 6: you know, pursue that worst case scenario. This shit worse
- 12:40Speaker 6: than Epstein list dog.
- 12:42Speaker 7: Because what's.
- 12:44Speaker 6: What's gonna happen is is everybody every like Box. To
- 12:48Speaker 6: the people out there who are not inside the industry,
- 12:51Speaker 6: they might think, wow, somebody using Box, But everybody in
- 12:54Speaker 6: this room right now understands that Box and AI gets
- 12:58Speaker 6: used all the time for some your favorite artists, most
- 13:01Speaker 6: of your favorite artists, your artist, your favorite artists might
- 13:04Speaker 6: not even.
- 13:04Speaker 7: Know that it's being that Box are being used.
- 13:07Speaker 6: It ain't like Kendrick is sitting at a computer in
- 13:10Speaker 6: a farm with a thousand devices, so it don't it
- 13:14Speaker 6: don't touch him anyway.
- 13:15Speaker 7: But the whole thing is all these people using bots.
- 13:19Speaker 6: So the domino effect and the blowback of trying to
- 13:22Speaker 6: bring all this to the forefront, and you're gonna bring
- 13:26Speaker 6: down some of the biggest artists known to men, and
- 13:29Speaker 6: then the whistleblower doesn't usually come out clean on the
- 13:33Speaker 6: other side of that, you feel me, So this could
- 13:36Speaker 6: be something like this is only the tip of iceberg.
- 13:40Speaker 6: Y'll like, this man is pishing in the wind, though, Bro,
- 13:44Speaker 6: you don't think he's using box.
- 13:47Speaker 7: Man, Listen, he might not think he using box.
- 13:52Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Bro. His upress, his upress and
- 13:55Speaker 3: his arrogance probably got him thinking I'm the greatest. I
- 13:57Speaker 3: don't have to that's really believe me. The hot blind
- 14:03Speaker 3: bling and all that stuff got bots on him and stuff.
- 14:05Speaker 8: On it too.
- 14:06Speaker 4: And why would he think because he said they're both
- 14:08Speaker 4: on the same label, So why would he think that
- 14:11Speaker 4: his own label only uses boss for the other guy?
- 14:14Speaker 4: And not for him, because he's the label.
- 14:17Speaker 5: For doing it.
- 14:18Speaker 8: Hey, I think he keep on playing with Luci and
- 14:21Speaker 8: Grange and then he's gonna.
- 14:22Speaker 5: Be That's all I was about to say.
- 14:28Speaker 4: I think Diddy's behind this, because now Diddy has the
- 14:30Speaker 4: second most interesting trial.
- 14:31Speaker 1: And some Crooked said, this is why I've been saying
- 14:40Speaker 1: he's not hip hop, right, because there's a thing that
- 14:46Speaker 1: and I'll be honest, right, Cam who is one of
- 14:49Speaker 1: the best of us, right, the Nation of Islam cleaned
- 14:51Speaker 1: him up, got him together, Stell who's a father and
- 14:55Speaker 1: a husband and does great things, and Crooked who's been
- 14:58Speaker 1: in this business. We all still worry about the optics.
- 15:04Speaker 1: That's the thing about being street. Street don't mean you
- 15:09Speaker 1: actually have to commit a crime. Street means you protect
- 15:12Speaker 1: your reputation differently because you come from a level of
- 15:16Speaker 1: poverty and you need to keep your reputation intact. Every
- 15:21Speaker 1: last person on the stage not named Pete definitely overvalues
- 15:27Speaker 1: their reputation, and that's the cornerstone of hip hop. Gee, However,
- 15:32Speaker 1: many episodes ago, you asked me why wasn't trying to
- 15:37Speaker 1: get into fights in high school?
- 15:38Speaker 4: And what did I say? Too hard for me to
- 15:43Speaker 4: get my dad suit.
- 15:45Speaker 1: So this is what I told him, Krook, I said,
- 15:48Speaker 1: if you want to know if your hip hop is
- 15:49Speaker 1: really simple, the first hip hop lesson most people get right.
- 15:55Speaker 1: The first hip hop lesson is the first time you
- 15:59Speaker 1: go to school and somebody put their hands on and
- 16:03Speaker 1: you come home and you tell your mom and your father, Hey,
- 16:06Speaker 1: somebody put their hands on me. If your parents say
- 16:11Speaker 1: you better hit them motherfuckers back, your ass is hip hop.
- 16:17Speaker 2: If you outside of your house.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And your friends saying you better hit them back, that's
- 16:23Speaker 1: hip hop. You know why, because hip hop is not
- 16:26Speaker 1: worried about the rules. The street is a greater sense
- 16:29Speaker 1: of justice. The street culture is a greater sense of justice.
- 16:32Speaker 1: We understand justice ain't on our side, so we have
- 16:35Speaker 1: to take justice in our own hands. That's a cornerstone
- 16:38Speaker 1: of street, urban culture, hip hop.
- 16:41Speaker 2: That's something we all share.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I don't care if our mom was a nurse like
- 16:46Speaker 1: my mom, cam whatever your mom did, whatever your mom
- 16:51Speaker 1: feel me quote whatever your mom. Yeah, you better hit
- 16:55Speaker 1: him back. That father, somebody say hit him back. Didn't
- 17:00Speaker 1: nobody tell you to go tell the teacher?
- 17:04Speaker 11: No one place.
- 17:05Speaker 2: He said, you know what, donna hit him back. Go
- 17:07Speaker 2: tell the teacher tell the principal.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Matter of fact, my mama would say, you're not gonna
- 17:14Speaker 1: get in trouble if they get you in trouble.
- 17:17Speaker 8: Mm.
- 17:19Speaker 2: So I was to peat that, and I asked Pete to.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Prove it, and Pete said this fire told him you
- 17:25Speaker 1: better not hit nobody back.
- 17:27Speaker 2: I don't need no reason for nobody to sue me, right.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:32Speaker 4: And and the worst fight I saw in high school,
- 17:35Speaker 4: some dude got his block knocked the fuck off. His
- 17:38Speaker 4: dad had to write a six figure checker.
- 17:41Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Damn man that he got his block knocked off and
- 17:50Speaker 2: he chose to sue.
- 17:58Speaker 7: Y'all picture of Dwayne Wayne mean, I'm from a different world.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Man, Oh man, I don't know how to feel. This
- 18:10Speaker 1: is almost unbelievable. So, yes, Crook, I'm with you. I
- 18:13Speaker 1: think he's not worried about the optics. But his problem
- 18:17Speaker 1: is he's worried about the optics. That's the only thing. Like,
- 18:24Speaker 1: because he's not hip hop in culture and being raised,
- 18:27Speaker 1: he don't quite understand what's happening. But because he's idolized
- 18:31Speaker 1: his culture like tons of basketball players, he's idolized culture
- 18:35Speaker 1: like tons of people on outskirts right that they start
- 18:38Speaker 1: to participate right, and then they start to try to.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Live up to the.
- 18:45Speaker 1: To the to the rules, to the foundation of it,
- 18:49Speaker 1: you know, to the point where even when he got robbed,
- 18:51Speaker 1: he told the police and he felt like, you know,
- 18:54Speaker 1: it was things that he did that really threw me off.
- 18:57Speaker 1: And I'm like, but I never thought he was street crooked.
- 18:59Speaker 1: When I first I never thought he was street. I'm like,
- 19:01Speaker 1: this is a good dude. Like, it's a good kid.
- 19:04Speaker 1: You know, you just nigg we the same. I'm like, yeah,
- 19:06Speaker 1: he's a good kid, you know what I mean. So
- 19:08Speaker 1: it was weird to me that when his music started
- 19:11Speaker 1: to get street and it started talking about hurting people
- 19:14Speaker 1: and spending the lilt and talking tough, and I'm like, yeah,
- 19:19Speaker 1: it's just music. And then I realized when I first
- 19:22Speaker 1: started to you remember quick, when I would call you,
- 19:25Speaker 1: when I was just getting the grasp on what hip
- 19:27Speaker 1: hop was from a true cultural standpoint, I was figuring
- 19:30Speaker 1: it out, and I was like.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Oh, he not hip hop. And I didn't think anything.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Wrong with it because I thought he was an unbelievably
- 19:36Speaker 1: talented musician.
- 19:37Speaker 2: I never cared if he was or was it right?
- 19:41Speaker 2: You feel me?
- 19:42Speaker 1: It was like he was extremely dope, like this dude
- 19:45Speaker 1: was a master. But then I noticed when I read
- 19:48Speaker 1: it publicly talking to Charlemagne in the interview, and like
- 19:52Speaker 1: it was like a kind of an attitude from his
- 19:54Speaker 1: team to me, and I'm like, wait a minute, are
- 19:57Speaker 1: y'all mad at me for saying this? And it's like
- 20:00Speaker 1: they wanted people to really.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Believe that he was street. I went through the same
- 20:10Speaker 2: thing with Rose.
- 20:11Speaker 1: It was like I'm saying something I get, you know,
- 20:14Speaker 1: like because I make street rap, I have to be
- 20:17Speaker 1: honest and be a lot more transparent because you know,
- 20:20Speaker 1: everybody else that's that's competing in the competing space, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 1: I mean, they get to kind of fantasize it.
- 20:26Speaker 2: They get to you know, like I was saying, Ross,
- 20:29Speaker 2: you know who's in my top five?
- 20:30Speaker 1: Like he could say he got ninety eight million dollars
- 20:32Speaker 1: in the Bank of American bank account, or you know
- 20:35Speaker 1: Creavior or he named himself after a guy that I
- 20:38Speaker 1: actually wove.
- 20:40Speaker 2: And you know, I wasn't it wasn't no shame crooked
- 20:43Speaker 2: on Olivia, but it wasn't no shade. It was just like,
- 20:45Speaker 2: these are obvious truths. Niggas was making at me, and
- 20:49Speaker 2: I'm like, do you think you fooling people?
- 20:53Speaker 1: Yes, if I'm crazy or if they crazy? Because I'm like,
- 20:58Speaker 1: are they fooling people?
- 21:00Speaker 6: So that's where we come to this situation at hand.
- 21:06Speaker 6: It's like a magician telling everybody how the magic tricks
- 21:10Speaker 6: are performed. When you get up here, you start talking
- 21:14Speaker 6: about these bots and this AI and this stream shit,
- 21:18Speaker 6: you about to pull back the curtain and show everybody
- 21:21Speaker 6: the wizard of Alls. You feel me, and let me
- 21:25Speaker 6: tell you they're not playing about this bro. Fifteen twenty fifteen,
- 21:30Speaker 6: I did a show called One Shot. I created this
- 21:32Speaker 6: show for BT Rap Competition, all this kind of good stuff.
- 21:36Speaker 6: One of the real current judges good dude, family man.
- 21:40Speaker 6: I met his kids, I met his wife. Family man.
- 21:42Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, real good dude. We had
- 21:47Speaker 6: a successful season.
- 21:49Speaker 3: It was great.
- 21:50Speaker 6: A couple of years went by, everybody started doing their
- 21:53Speaker 6: own little thing.
- 21:53Speaker 7: We all went back to our respective corners.
- 21:57Speaker 6: This year, I woke up and his face was all
- 21:59Speaker 6: over the news, and I was like, what is he
- 22:03Speaker 6: doing all over the news? Feds yanked them out of
- 22:08Speaker 6: his crib in front of his kids, and his wife
- 22:12Speaker 6: arrested him and charged them with an accusation that he
- 22:17Speaker 6: used AI and bots and manipulated streams to generate ten
- 22:23Speaker 6: million dollars for himself.
- 22:27Speaker 7: And they are.
- 22:29Speaker 6: Saying that this is one of the biggest streaming crimes
- 22:34Speaker 6: since they started passing laws against fraudulent streams. That man
- 22:41Speaker 6: owns businesses, homes, He's a hard working dude. They snatched
- 22:46Speaker 6: him straight up. They not playing about that shit, bro,
- 22:52Speaker 6: unless you are with the machine. Then they turned the
- 22:58Speaker 6: other was permitted to chieve.
- 23:02Speaker 5: Do you know what this reminds me of?
- 23:04Speaker 2: No, It's like, this is what I kind of think
- 23:07Speaker 2: it is.
- 23:09Speaker 4: If this is Drake's second L he's ever taken since
- 23:12Speaker 4: that he was born.
- 23:13Speaker 5: What was his first L?
- 23:17Speaker 2: Not push your tea?
- 23:21Speaker 4: I mean that was a speed bump that didn't impact anything.
- 23:27Speaker 4: This reminds me of Hillary Clinton losing the election in
- 23:30Speaker 4: twenty sixteen and blaming it on the Russians, like a
- 23:35Speaker 4: total shock and disbelief, and I like, this can't be possible.
- 23:39Speaker 4: I'm me, I don't take l's like this. It had
- 23:41Speaker 4: to have been manipulated by somebody outside of the system. Bro.
- 23:47Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I think with Drake man, I
- 23:49Speaker 3: think Drake is the delusional guy. I think he's the
- 23:53Speaker 3: direct result of that everybody gets a trophy syndrome. That
- 23:58Speaker 3: was one of the things I hated. Do you remember
- 23:59Speaker 3: when I was coaching you football, told you I hate
- 24:01Speaker 3: the idea of everybody getting the trophy. Mm, this is
- 24:05Speaker 3: the same thing Drake doesn't think he's supposed to lose.
- 24:08Speaker 7: He's entitled.
- 24:10Speaker 3: His privilege is coming out of showing right now, how
- 24:12Speaker 3: big this dude from compt to beat me. He's not
- 24:14Speaker 3: better than me than me? This is this privilege. This
- 24:18Speaker 3: is privilege on thing. He's having a timidt answer right now.
- 24:22Speaker 2: You know what, that actually makes sense.
- 24:27Speaker 3: This is his privilege.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Privilege, bro, he really is having a privileged moment.
- 24:34Speaker 8: He got affluenza, you know how dare.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that, but that makes sense.
- 24:44Speaker 1: He's having a privileged moment.
- 24:46Speaker 5: HM.
- 24:47Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he called doc Nick the
- 24:50Speaker 3: N word with hard r bro.
- 24:52Speaker 7: I'm I believe.
- 24:53Speaker 4: You that the who would he say that to?
- 25:01Speaker 3: Though?
- 25:02Speaker 4: Because for people who probably around him all the time,
- 25:04Speaker 4: you know, probably aren't like on his.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Probably we're still setting their breast, whatever you're doing, still
- 25:15Speaker 3: still out here with this is ridiculous, right, you know me?
- 25:25Speaker 3: She was talking right. Everybody except everybody on this family
- 25:30Speaker 3: except one of us, is from the hood, right, everybody
- 25:32Speaker 3: from the get him. We've all lost the fight before, right,
- 25:37Speaker 3: But we never told like she was alluding to earlier.
- 25:41Speaker 3: We never went back and told nobody we just want
- 25:43Speaker 3: to fuck that dude again and again until we got
- 25:45Speaker 3: a victory, or we left him head alone, right, whatever
- 25:48Speaker 3: it was. But we didn't go tell nobody. This dude
- 25:51Speaker 3: really thinks that he has the right to go. Man,
- 25:55Speaker 3: he lost the battle, bruh. And I'm pretty sure he
- 25:58Speaker 3: done heard that album. I'm pretty you were, and he
- 26:01Speaker 3: can't one person you can't lie to You can't lie
- 26:03Speaker 3: to yourself. I'm pretty sure you don't heard that shit
- 26:04Speaker 3: and said, Man, this is really good.
- 26:07Speaker 7: I'm going to sue him.
- 26:08Speaker 3: He's ruined me.
- 26:11Speaker 6: No, all the farm owners thinking right now, this is
- 26:15Speaker 6: a deeper conversation, bro, because.
- 26:20Speaker 1: I've always thought if you are mixed with black, you
- 26:26Speaker 1: are black, right. But then I've always thought, big bro,
- 26:29Speaker 1: and this is a good thing to talk to you about.
- 26:31Speaker 1: I've always thought of black as a responsibility. It ain't
- 26:35Speaker 1: like my skin is black, right, Being black is a
- 26:39Speaker 1: desire to care for other people that have been through
- 26:41Speaker 1: the same type of struggles like myself. It's a responsibility
- 26:45Speaker 1: to be black. And I noticed it and I thought
- 26:52Speaker 1: to myself, like I used to always say he wasn't
- 26:55Speaker 1: hip hop. People thought that that was the equivalent of
- 26:57Speaker 1: me saying he's not black.
- 27:01Speaker 2: And it's like, he's black. His father is a black man.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Yeah, he's black dog. But being black, like you said,
- 27:07Speaker 3: it's more than a skin color, man, It's a condition, man,
- 27:09Speaker 3: It's like it's a soul. Listen here, man, and think
- 27:13Speaker 3: about it.
- 27:13Speaker 4: Also, like if you're from a biracial parenting, you know,
- 27:21Speaker 4: or what's the word, like a conception and you're raised
- 27:25Speaker 4: by one parent, you're gonna be pretty.
- 27:29Speaker 5: Much that, you know what I mean.
- 27:32Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking, right, So that was
- 27:34Speaker 2: always my thing.
- 27:36Speaker 5: I got to have a lot of those conversations, right, that.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Was always my thing about him not being hip hop.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Right, he he was raised by his mother in the
- 27:44Speaker 1: Jewish community, going.
- 27:45Speaker 2: To Jewish because and that was always my thought, right.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Man, Now I can see if he was raised Jewish
- 27:52Speaker 1: in the Bronx, you know, you could be you hang
- 27:55Speaker 1: out onside, I guess what is you back to the streets.
- 27:58Speaker 1: But again, his serf stances, his environment. He was raised
- 28:02Speaker 1: as a Jewish man, so I always thought of him
- 28:04Speaker 1: was Jewish. But I understood his father was a brother
- 28:07Speaker 1: from Memphis.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Right, But you know, like if that's not going on, and.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Like like to me, you're not biracial, there's no such thing.
- 28:20Speaker 2: You're black, if you know what I mean, you're black.
- 28:22Speaker 2: If you're black, you're black.
- 28:23Speaker 1: It don't even matter what happened because theoretically everybody come
- 28:27Speaker 1: from black people from the star. So every for sure,
- 28:30Speaker 1: if you cut it back down, you're black. So I
- 28:33Speaker 1: understood he was Jewish based off culture, minus the conversation
- 28:38Speaker 1: of race, minus the conversation of his again ethnic ethnicity.
- 28:43Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he's a jewish Man. You know,
- 28:46Speaker 2: racially he's a Negro.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Right, But again, if race is not a real construct,
- 28:51Speaker 1: he would be a jewish Man. And if you think
- 28:54Speaker 1: about how he's going about this battle right now, they
- 29:02Speaker 1: really yeah, not a bad thing.
- 29:06Speaker 9: You got way too Trump in office, you got way
- 29:09Speaker 9: to January sixth. Then you can say that.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I don't think it's negative. I
- 29:14Speaker 1: mean that's just culture to who.
- 29:16Speaker 8: His peoples are.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why YouTube.
- 29:19Speaker 4: That there's a difference in that sensus saying saying like
- 29:22Speaker 4: the Jays and j Ish, But I don't know.
- 29:27Speaker 5: I'm not in charge of it.
- 29:29Speaker 3: He doesn't even know if that if that matters, man,
- 29:32Speaker 3: I just think that the dude don't have no culture.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Man he does, but that's my points then he already
- 29:38Speaker 2: get it.
- 29:38Speaker 5: He was raised jam.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. He doesn't like when
- 29:44Speaker 3: you've never really been through nothing like you know how
- 29:46Speaker 3: you talking about him and his mom had a hard time, man, mhm, him,
- 29:53Speaker 3: him and his mom Florry Town was way different than
- 29:55Speaker 3: our parents hard time.
- 29:57Speaker 2: I don't want to get to the drug Olympics. He
- 30:01Speaker 2: waste the time with that.
- 30:02Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for sure, I always thought of him
- 30:06Speaker 1: as that, but like this is next level, not hip
- 30:12Speaker 1: like I always thought he wasn't hip, but like this is.
- 30:15Speaker 2: For sure the most unhit thing he's ever done in his.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Life that I've ever saw that I saw or is
- 30:22Speaker 4: it just the most Jewish things ever done in this life?
- 30:25Speaker 1: That's my point. It makes sense when you throw because
- 30:31Speaker 1: I can't play. The Beastie Boys were still the.
- 30:35Speaker 3: Whole bunch of Jewish people on hip hop broke ain't never.
- 30:40Speaker 1: I think those people still are street like the Beastie
- 30:43Speaker 1: Boys still grew up in the punk rock environment, should
- 30:46Speaker 1: be able to create the music.
- 30:47Speaker 2: So there's a level of street urbanness too it.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Because again punk rock is and hip hop or step brother,
- 30:52Speaker 1: they both come from street urban backgrounds, just different you know,
- 30:56Speaker 1: mothers places on Earth. We ain't come up in the
- 30:59Speaker 1: same places. But the saying oppression or whatever miss understood,
- 31:02Speaker 1: Like the Skaters cam when I was just young, the
- 31:04Speaker 1: Skaters is like that they really felt like they were
- 31:08Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, ain't Drake from the
- 31:11Speaker 1: Canada streets though? Any rocking with the Hell's Angels and
- 31:14Speaker 1: all that that street no, y ain't no no, because.
- 31:20Speaker 2: For sure they wouldn't be suing nobody. It'd be a rumble,
- 31:24Speaker 2: be a squabble.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask sure this crook. When't you say
- 31:30Speaker 3: that Drake is a good artist. Yeah, you know, Drake
- 31:36Speaker 3: was probably one of the biggest you know, if you
- 31:38Speaker 3: want to call him hip hop or he's one of
- 31:40Speaker 3: the biggest recording artists in the industry. I believe that
- 31:45Speaker 3: this is going to be really bad for him.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Somebody's making a point shout out to. We've been trying
- 31:51Speaker 1: to figure out what it was. Shout out to, Uh
- 31:55Speaker 1: David Jones. He said, I think Crookeds mic is too.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Close to his speakers.
- 32:00Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that may be where we're getting the feed.
- 32:02Speaker 2: That could be it, because I had the same thing
- 32:04Speaker 2: happened with. I don't know, because I don't think you
- 32:08Speaker 2: got a mic.
- 32:10Speaker 3: No, I don't got a mic. I'm just on the phone.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Yeah, so somebody's mic may be too close to their
- 32:15Speaker 1: speakers mike right here.
- 32:17Speaker 7: They ain't even plugged up.
- 32:20Speaker 3: But you know what, I think it'd be to a
- 32:21Speaker 3: little bit man, to a certain extent with these things,
- 32:25Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, this is gonna be weird,
- 32:30Speaker 3: but this is gonna be.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Bad for Oh boy, you got you got your ear
- 32:33Speaker 4: pieces in or you listening to your thing.
- 32:35Speaker 3: The gonna say you probably gotta have an ear piece in. No,
- 32:41Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just my mic when you're all talking.
- 32:46Speaker 2: It's definitely it couldn't be.
- 32:49Speaker 9: It's coming It's coming from crook It's coming from Crook side. Okay,
- 32:53Speaker 9: I don't know what it was, but it's coming from that.
- 32:55Speaker 3: But we might well keep going. We can't spend a
- 32:57Speaker 3: whole bunch of time.
- 32:58Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's all good.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Don't thank you, brother, You're not causing an issue, thank
- 33:02Speaker 2: you well.
- 33:05Speaker 1: So no, Ryan, right, And this is the tricky part, Ryan,
- 33:09Speaker 1: that's the bad question. I don't really want to deal with,
- 33:11Speaker 1: but I'm gonna deal with it anyway. So everyone with
- 33:13Speaker 1: African ancestry is black, now.
- 33:18Speaker 8: No, not nothing.
- 33:20Speaker 9: Our definitely, our definition of black really is basically the
- 33:23Speaker 9: sentence of slave experience, the black descendants of slaves in
- 33:27Speaker 9: North America. So Drake is supposed to you know, he's
- 33:30Speaker 9: half of that, but he wasn't raised on you know,
- 33:32Speaker 9: on that side of the fence, so he don't want
- 33:35Speaker 9: that with that.
- 33:36Speaker 3: I don't want to get into this thing like mixed
- 33:38Speaker 3: people ain't black, man, because I know a whole bunch
- 33:40Speaker 3: of down mixed people.
- 33:41Speaker 8: You know, well, we all mix.
- 33:43Speaker 9: If you're an American and you got a last name
- 33:45Speaker 9: that ain't African, you've been cut.
- 33:47Speaker 3: You cut. That's what I'm saying.
- 33:49Speaker 2: So it's like, that's not but that's what I'm saying.
- 33:53Speaker 1: No, So no, no, everybody that's of African descent, because
- 33:58Speaker 1: Eli Musk is of African descent. It is obvious he's
- 34:00Speaker 1: not a black man. So no, you don't even got
- 34:04Speaker 1: to go that far. We don't even waste that much time.
- 34:07Speaker 9: No, do you think that Drake is is kind of
- 34:10Speaker 9: going crazy because he know, he know he's a hit maker.
- 34:13Speaker 9: He know he make fire music, but he don't under
- 34:16Speaker 9: he didn't understand the dynamics of Kendrick's you know, lineage
- 34:23Speaker 9: and the audience and what he represents.
- 34:25Speaker 8: Because Drake Drakens is a hit maker.
- 34:28Speaker 9: But when you start trying to come over here on
- 34:30Speaker 9: this fence and get into this warrior type of you know,
- 34:33Speaker 9: street street warrior type of thing, you're gonna catch the
- 34:35Speaker 9: all like you never caught before.
- 34:37Speaker 8: I think he you know, yeah.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Well, I just think Drake just stepped in some you know,
- 34:42Speaker 3: I think Drake just stepped in a mess. I'm gonna
- 34:45Speaker 3: tell you what it was. This is my thing. You know,
- 34:47Speaker 3: Drake was going to all the U r L battles
- 34:50Speaker 3: and I think he was just really intrigued by this
- 34:52Speaker 3: and he just thought that maybe he can get one
- 34:54Speaker 3: off on dot and just kind of bit off more
- 34:56Speaker 3: than he can shoot.
- 34:57Speaker 4: I think he's surpassing out because he can't reach the
- 35:00Speaker 4: audience he's always been able to reach.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Well, I think, so so here let's let's my man
- 35:07Speaker 1: crook it here so I could keep some facts.
- 35:09Speaker 2: So this is some facts.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Right since the days of selling records, record label's been
- 35:14Speaker 1: buying records. You really can't pay for a hit record.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Your record actually gotta work, especially at any major market.
- 35:20Speaker 3: Right.
- 35:21Speaker 1: You could try to get a promotional thing on, but
- 35:23Speaker 1: eventually your record got a call out. As far as
- 35:26Speaker 1: streaming and stuff, I do believe that there are some
- 35:28Speaker 1: plus ones and plus twos for streams, I believe that's happening.
- 35:32Speaker 1: But your record actually has the stream. You can't take
- 35:35Speaker 1: the record that nobody knows and make it work. And
- 35:39Speaker 1: the problem is there have been articles. There was an
- 35:41Speaker 1: article on a Rolling Stone accusing Drake of the same thing.
- 35:46Speaker 1: And before we just start using that p word, right
- 35:49Speaker 1: like the payola word, you can't still be the first one.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Can be the first one, crook me. You can't pay
- 35:55Speaker 2: for hit record.
- 35:56Speaker 1: It actually gotta be a hit record only and pay
- 36:01Speaker 1: for the promotion to have a chance to have a
- 36:03Speaker 1: hit records. Maybe if you had a small station that
- 36:06Speaker 1: don't have a million dollar endorsements deal from Pepsi's and
- 36:10Speaker 1: and Universal City Neiss. Maybe if you don't have a
- 36:13Speaker 1: station that has those, But if you have a station
- 36:16Speaker 1: that's making great money off of advertisement, you could not
- 36:20Speaker 1: pay for a hit record. So that's the first thing
- 36:23Speaker 1: your record actually has to perform.
- 36:26Speaker 2: That's a fact. I know it.
- 36:27Speaker 1: I'd have backed it up a mellion. I know it's true.
- 36:30Speaker 1: So Paola is an over stated concept.
- 36:33Speaker 3: I want to add something else to that. And Kim
- 36:37Speaker 3: You and Crooked both attested this. We used to see
- 36:39Speaker 3: people back in the day they have what you call
- 36:41Speaker 3: turntable hits. They would have these huge records at radio.
- 36:44Speaker 3: But then the first week when sound Scheme would come
- 36:46Speaker 3: out there to sell a thousand copies, Remember though, bring when.
- 36:49Speaker 8: That would happen to Cam.
- 36:51Speaker 3: Yeah, people still have to go out and purchase your record. However,
- 36:56Speaker 3: is now people still have to go stream. Like you said,
- 36:58Speaker 3: you can't cheat your way to it. A big record,
- 37:01Speaker 3: not the record, not as big as something, not like
- 37:03Speaker 3: this was. You can't keep with that. It was everybody
- 37:07Speaker 3: be doing it.
- 37:08Speaker 8: Yeah, Drake, Drake just ain't.
- 37:10Speaker 9: He's not from that that world where he could be
- 37:13Speaker 9: battle rapping like real street street dudes, like it's just
- 37:16Speaker 9: the culture won't allow it. It's just like a governor
- 37:19Speaker 9: on the culture. It was just it's just, you know,
- 37:22Speaker 9: it just won't allow it. If he stuck to his
- 37:23Speaker 9: singing hooks and all that he has smashed Kendrick. If
- 37:28Speaker 9: Kendrick came over to his side of the fence and
- 37:30Speaker 9: trying to he would ruin his own career. But Drake
- 37:33Speaker 9: is the one that made the mistake and came over
- 37:35Speaker 9: here and he stepped on some landlines.
- 37:37Speaker 2: And that's a great point.
- 37:41Speaker 1: He he didn't have to be this at first, right,
- 37:45Speaker 1: he didn't have to be this at first. Again, everybody,
- 37:48Speaker 1: this is No Silings Live. The YouTube link is hold on.
- 37:51Speaker 1: I'm gonna share it on Twitter.
- 37:54Speaker 8: Uh.
- 37:54Speaker 2: It goes live on the YouTube on a No Salis podcast.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Shout out to my brothers for coming down and making
- 38:01Speaker 1: it happen with me. Let me tweet this link. Yes
- 38:04Speaker 1: it's crooked phone for sure, for sure. Damn that dude caught.
- 38:08Speaker 1: He must be like an engineer or something. I don't
- 38:11Speaker 1: know how you caught that. So again, he had the
- 38:18Speaker 1: game in his hand when he first came to the
- 38:20Speaker 1: like when he first came to cash money.
- 38:22Speaker 2: Because he was actually the genuine article.
- 38:25Speaker 1: He was a really great talent actor, you know what
- 38:29Speaker 1: I mean, Like he was he had been a part
- 38:31Speaker 1: of a he had been a part of a TV
- 38:36Speaker 1: show that was doing well. He was well trained, prepared
- 38:39Speaker 1: as an entertainer, and he wasn't too shabby. On the
- 38:42Speaker 1: record side, he was a killer. Like he was a
- 38:45Speaker 1: monster at making records. Like I remember the first time
- 38:49Speaker 1: meeting him and then hearing his records and being like,
- 38:51Speaker 1: I can't believe this is the same dude that made
- 38:54Speaker 1: both of these.
- 38:55Speaker 2: It almost seemed possible.
- 38:58Speaker 5: He's the first reverse engineer rapper.
- 39:01Speaker 2: That's a great point.
- 39:02Speaker 5: Every other rapper has gone from inner city to suburbs.
- 39:05Speaker 5: He did it the other way.
- 39:07Speaker 2: And that's what I think is killing him, right, Pete, because.
- 39:10Speaker 4: Because he could only go so far in before you
- 39:13Speaker 4: get too far, you can never go too far out.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to go all the way in.
- 39:19Speaker 1: And now like he's in this weird space to where
- 39:23Speaker 1: he's trying to kind of live like the culture right
- 39:26Speaker 1: where he's doing stuff, you know, taking the situation into
- 39:31Speaker 1: his own hands, just as different small things. But it's like,
- 39:35Speaker 1: well these things still apply, Like and the Kendrick Battle
- 39:38Speaker 1: didn't do anything but show everybody that obviously culturally he's
- 39:42Speaker 1: not what you know people thought he was, which is weird.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I don't know how they thought he was that.
- 39:47Speaker 1: But also it's like, not only did you turn the
- 39:51Speaker 1: culture and have the culture looking at you crazy right
- 39:54Speaker 1: within that battle, but also now you're about to.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Turn the business against you, Like the business was never
- 40:03Speaker 2: against you. The business built you.
- 40:04Speaker 1: The business gave you all the looks because you wouldn't
- 40:06Speaker 1: have came through the streets, you couldn't have went to
- 40:09Speaker 1: all the places you need to do all of that stuff.
- 40:12Speaker 9: He went tropic thunder. He went full uh such and such. Yeah, yeah,
- 40:25Speaker 9: this guy. Never go full gangster.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Never go full gamester. He went full gangster. That's a
- 40:32Speaker 1: great point, big bro.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Oh god, he went full gangster.
- 40:40Speaker 4: He says something about bodies to the point where I
- 40:44Speaker 4: was like, I thought that bodies meant something else.
- 40:49Speaker 2: It made me think that I didn't know what I'm
- 40:50Speaker 2: saying bodies, And I know.
- 40:52Speaker 4: But when I first heard him saying, I was like,
- 40:54Speaker 4: ship all this time, I thought it.
- 40:55Speaker 9: Meant that it must mean something different because he's yeah,
- 40:59Speaker 9: I thought he meant girls, like he was a girl.
- 41:01Speaker 8: Bodies or something, but blind. Yeah, I'm like, man, I.
- 41:06Speaker 5: Thought people getting killed it was pussy all this time.
- 41:10Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you. I don't think
- 41:13Speaker 3: killer has nothing to do with it.
- 41:15Speaker 1: Man.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Let's take Eminem for example, right, has never pressed but was.
- 41:24Speaker 8: Raised in Detroit with That's what I'm saying.
- 41:27Speaker 3: It's a difference, bro. Eminem is really he's really with
- 41:30Speaker 3: the ships, you know what I mean.
- 41:31Speaker 4: It's a punk rock kid that grew up in Eminem
- 41:34Speaker 4: is very respectful of that relationship.
- 41:38Speaker 3: And I think that's because he really knows what he
- 41:40Speaker 3: really know what time it is, you know. So I
- 41:43Speaker 3: just think, man, I think this is gonna be bad
- 41:45Speaker 3: for doing. And to be honest with you, it's almost
- 41:49Speaker 3: like he just like everybody talking about Dot's album and
- 41:51Speaker 3: then he come up with this bullshit, right. It's like, man,
- 41:56Speaker 3: he just want to make it about him.
- 42:01Speaker 7: All right. So I got a question for y'all, what
- 42:03Speaker 7: are the ramifications of this case?
- 42:06Speaker 6: Because people, people are people are speculating that he's trying
- 42:12Speaker 6: to get off of a universal and he this is
- 42:15Speaker 6: the this is the movie making.
- 42:17Speaker 1: But I don't understand how could this get him off
- 42:19Speaker 1: of you accusing another artist This is like that Gunner case. Right,
- 42:24Speaker 1: This is like that Gunner case where people are confusing, right,
- 42:31Speaker 1: like what a plea is as somebody that that's took
- 42:34Speaker 1: too pleas in my life, a plea is when you
- 42:36Speaker 1: only admit to the things that you did, or you
- 42:39Speaker 1: only base it off of the things you did. In
- 42:42Speaker 1: Gunner situation, right with Thug, the reason he told on
- 42:45Speaker 1: Thug is he said he did nothing and everybody else
- 42:48Speaker 1: did everything. Now, maybe if if if Drake's case would
- 42:54Speaker 1: have been more like, you know what, the label hasn't
- 42:58Speaker 1: been paying me. They flated these streams. But he's doing
- 43:02Speaker 1: the same thing where he's like, no, this guy, they're
- 43:05Speaker 1: over here doing this for him, y'all signed to the
- 43:07Speaker 1: same people. They're doing this for him. They're doing this
- 43:11Speaker 1: for him. They're not doing they're doing this for him.
- 43:14Speaker 1: He's not even talking about what they're doing for him.
- 43:17Speaker 1: He's not even saying what they did to wrong him.
- 43:21Speaker 1: They're saying them marketing. Kendrick Lamarson, I have a problem
- 43:28Speaker 1: with it because they did it unfairly. He's not even
- 43:32Speaker 1: equating it to he's not even equating it crook to
- 43:35Speaker 1: his shit.
- 43:36Speaker 4: But that kind of does support his point though, because
- 43:42Speaker 4: he can't demonstrate standing because he hasn't been damaged by it,
- 43:45Speaker 4: you know, in the way that he's suggesting. So if
- 43:50Speaker 4: it's look, this is gonna be ugly in discovery for
- 43:53Speaker 4: us as universal and he says, hey, look, if you
- 43:57Speaker 4: guys let me out of my deal, we could drop
- 43:59Speaker 4: this right now before those discovery.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Sure it's a civil case to Crooked's point, right, So
- 44:10Speaker 1: what Peter is saying makes the most sense.
- 44:11Speaker 2: The reality is maybe he kicks up.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Enough dust to where they like he settles it, like,
- 44:18Speaker 1: let me out of my deal and I'll drop the
- 44:21Speaker 1: case so you don't have to present.
- 44:23Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you right now ahead of time.
- 44:27Speaker 4: U m G.
- 44:28Speaker 1: Not gonna do that. They are past the point of
- 44:31Speaker 1: you bullying them.
- 44:32Speaker 9: Man, come on, man, Ain't nobody not going program. Ain't
- 44:37Speaker 9: nobody bigger.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Than to bully U MG. And if he thought that
- 44:41Speaker 2: that was his plan, Mike hints learned the hard way.
- 44:47Speaker 2: But you are not going to bully these people.
- 44:50Speaker 5: What does he benefit from getting out of that deal?
- 44:52Speaker 5: Where's it gonna go?
- 44:53Speaker 8: Right now?
- 44:53Speaker 4: His values at its all time low and you want
- 44:56Speaker 4: to get out of your deal?
- 44:58Speaker 5: That that in itself.
- 45:00Speaker 6: Don't have a value. He will make money as an
- 45:07Speaker 6: independent artist. We know that.
- 45:11Speaker 8: How much? How much? How much y'all?
- 45:13Speaker 9: How much do a rapper supposed to make before you
- 45:16Speaker 9: feel like he don't need to have to make no more?
- 45:18Speaker 8: Like I don't understand that.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on?
- 45:22Speaker 1: What which world do you tell on one dope man
- 45:28Speaker 1: and get another.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Even crook as an independent Which.
- 45:34Speaker 1: World do you tell on one dope man and then
- 45:37Speaker 1: people know you told on the dope man and another
- 45:40Speaker 1: plug say come over.
- 45:41Speaker 2: Here and get this money?
- 45:45Speaker 7: Yeah, like it don't like it's not a smart plan.
- 45:49Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that he can definitely be on
- 45:52Speaker 6: that perspective, like yo, I could just jet out and
- 45:55Speaker 6: go independent or go somewhere else and get my bread.
- 45:59Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's a smart plan, but his value
- 46:02Speaker 6: is still there. He has value.
- 46:05Speaker 8: Do y'all think he's clean?
- 46:07Speaker 9: Just like what was really ruining his image is the
- 46:10Speaker 9: is the a minor that that subject?
- 46:14Speaker 8: Right? So is he clean enough to try to do
- 46:17Speaker 8: that to universal? You know what I'm saying?
- 46:20Speaker 9: Is he clean enough to you understand I'm saying like
- 46:23Speaker 9: he just smashed everything. Yeah, he just smashed everything he saw.
- 46:28Speaker 3: This man, we just saw this whole thing with Puffy.
- 46:31Speaker 3: As soon as Puffy start missing with them folks, man,
- 46:33Speaker 3: he was sitting up in the jail seal. Everybody along.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to go to Puffy wants to go to
- 46:40Speaker 1: the Puffy party. And then one day overnight I was
- 46:44Speaker 1: the only person. I went from being the only person
- 46:47Speaker 1: that didn't care about going to Puff party because I
- 46:48Speaker 1: don't drink and mess with the brawl, to do no
- 46:51Speaker 1: drugs like that. Now everybody don't want to go to
- 46:54Speaker 1: Puffy party. So again, trust me, he already did more
- 46:59Speaker 1: than enough for them people to hang in that. We
- 47:02Speaker 1: used to have this conversation all the time, cam like,
- 47:05Speaker 1: they're not going to let you get that far without
- 47:07Speaker 1: having something on you, right that just they're not finna
- 47:11Speaker 1: make you that. You know, they're not finna just empower
- 47:14Speaker 1: you and make you a monster, and you could just
- 47:17Speaker 1: move about the cabin for free. So I do think
- 47:19Speaker 1: Cricket is right. There has to be that would make sense. Right,
- 47:22Speaker 1: there's an idea and an intention to get out of
- 47:25Speaker 1: a deal. But the way you're going about it, first off,
- 47:29Speaker 1: you're exposing business practices that they use for all of
- 47:33Speaker 1: y'all everybody.
- 47:35Speaker 4: And furthermore, do you want to be independent and be
- 47:38Speaker 4: blackball from Spotify?
- 47:41Speaker 1: And the problem is you're not going to be blackball
- 47:43Speaker 1: from Spotify, but they're going to comb your shit everybody,
- 47:48Speaker 1: because again, the dope trade is very much the dough trade.
- 47:51Speaker 1: If you tell on somebody in the dough trade, nobody
- 47:54Speaker 1: is going to give you dope.
- 47:57Speaker 2: That's really if they kill you.
- 47:59Speaker 6: Did you the move he made when he was releasing
- 48:02Speaker 6: music on a website? Yes, you think that was the
- 48:06Speaker 6: testing grounds?
- 48:08Speaker 2: No?
- 48:10Speaker 5: Just how curiosity? What does an artist of that magnitude?
- 48:15Speaker 5: What does his deal look like?
- 48:16Speaker 4: Because I would assume he could kind of not craft
- 48:19Speaker 4: his own deal, but kind of craft his own deal.
- 48:21Speaker 5: What do you think his deal looks like?
- 48:22Speaker 3: What you think when the first we gave him crook?
- 48:24Speaker 3: Maybe maybe twenty million.
- 48:26Speaker 2: I think it's forty. Let me let crook, oh the crook,
- 48:28Speaker 2: let me get you going.
- 48:30Speaker 7: They said a four hundred million dollar deal. That's what
- 48:32Speaker 7: they say.
- 48:33Speaker 6: Now we understand people be tripping and you know, say
- 48:37Speaker 6: anything for marketing, but they said four hundred million dollars
- 48:41Speaker 6: wich forward, making it even more puzzling to what as
- 48:44Speaker 6: to why you would go up against them in this
- 48:47Speaker 6: in this situation, it's like, what are your intentions? I
- 48:51Speaker 6: guess that's the that's the question, what are your intentions?
- 48:54Speaker 6: Because the deed is done?
- 48:56Speaker 9: So could it could it be could it be controlled opposition?
- 49:00Speaker 9: Could this be deeper than we think it is?
- 49:03Speaker 8: You know?
- 49:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I have zero faith. I have zero faith that
- 49:08Speaker 1: Drake is a chess player. And I think the deal
- 49:13Speaker 1: I think everybody industry adds a zero to the deal.
- 49:16Speaker 1: So if the deal was supposed to be four hundred million,
- 49:18Speaker 1: is forty million?
- 49:19Speaker 3: I think he might have got forty man, because the
- 49:23Speaker 3: ain't nobody give him. There's too many things that can happen.
- 49:26Speaker 3: You get somebody that money.
- 49:28Speaker 4: It depends, Like I was like, I guess who owns
- 49:30Speaker 4: the masters in that scenario? If if he's getting forty,
- 49:32Speaker 4: he must own the lion's shriff, his rights. I just
- 49:38Speaker 4: heard on good authority, like really really really good authority
- 49:41Speaker 4: of about an artist whose music I've never even heard
- 49:44Speaker 4: getting paid one hundred for his catalog and future catalog rates.
- 49:52Speaker 2: Yeah, but all of that stuff, forgive me, hold up, krip.
- 49:57Speaker 1: All of that stuff is fluff, Like all of that
- 50:00Speaker 1: numbers I know for sure fact I could prove it.
- 50:03Speaker 1: But all of that number is fluff. This has this
- 50:08Speaker 1: is this is an emotional response. This is an emotional
- 50:13Speaker 1: response to I believe that yeah, too too bad event
- 50:19Speaker 1: in his life that is really traumatizing him. I know
- 50:22Speaker 1: this sounds crazy because losing a rap battle to us
- 50:25Speaker 1: would probably hurt our feelings, but it probably it ain't
- 50:28Speaker 1: the end of the.
- 50:29Speaker 2: World, but.
- 50:31Speaker 3: An emotional breakdown.
- 50:33Speaker 1: You're right, I'm define he really is calling this boy
- 50:38Speaker 1: the hard e r behind the door, behind closed doors.
- 50:42Speaker 3: Yo.
- 50:43Speaker 6: So let's go into the conspiracy real you know what
- 50:49Speaker 6: I'm saying. Let's take this into the conspiracy real, real quick.
- 50:54Speaker 6: The chair of Sony Music recently said, when rap became
- 51:01Speaker 6: the number one genre, instead they signed a thousand rap
- 51:07Speaker 6: artists instead of one hundred great rap artists, and that's
- 51:13Speaker 6: the reason why rap is declining for them, and they
- 51:18Speaker 6: foresee it going back underground and coming up a lot
- 51:25Speaker 6: stronger after going back underground. So in essence, what I
- 51:30Speaker 6: heard was, you're gonna try to force rap music to
- 51:34Speaker 6: go back underground. You're defunding all these marketing budgets, you're
- 51:39Speaker 6: shifting the money to different genres. And to catalogs that
- 51:44Speaker 6: you already own. And that's the focus on suspending. And
- 51:50Speaker 6: now we're gonna try to let rap just go underground.
- 51:54Speaker 6: So is this part of that?
- 51:58Speaker 4: Let the laboratory pay for itself and then you purchase
- 52:01Speaker 4: the medicine when it's done.
- 52:04Speaker 9: So is loocien grange connection to Diddy playing any part
- 52:09Speaker 9: in this?
- 52:10Speaker 8: Are they? Are they doing some diabolical stuff behind it?
- 52:14Speaker 3: His son? His son is about to take over.
- 52:16Speaker 9: Well, I'm just saying that that's still connected to the
- 52:17Speaker 9: father though. So if they if they twist the father up,
- 52:20Speaker 9: the son ain't got no action. So is he trying
- 52:23Speaker 9: to just sink the ship? You know what I'm saying.
- 52:25Speaker 9: And you know, let the Titanic go down and and
- 52:28Speaker 9: and scatter before before that happened.
- 52:30Speaker 3: I don't think so, Bro. I think the Universal Music
- 52:33Speaker 3: Group is indestructive.
- 52:35Speaker 8: No such thing, no such thing.
- 52:37Speaker 9: That's just like saying America's in destruction, you know what
- 52:40Speaker 9: I'm saying, camp Up.
- 52:41Speaker 1: I like I like, I like, I like America's chances
- 52:44Speaker 1: less I like you, and chance is better of being.
- 52:54Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Bro, they have a lot of money,
- 52:56Speaker 3: they have a lot of influence, bro, and it's just
- 52:58Speaker 3: not music. You know, there's a lot of people in
- 53:01Speaker 3: that building, a lot of big megastars. You gotta remember,
- 53:03Speaker 3: everybody any sloop over that gem. Everybody is over there.
- 53:09Speaker 3: Only is the only thing left. To some degree, It's
- 53:12Speaker 3: like two labels left.
- 53:14Speaker 9: And everybody ain't everybody on the Diddy Party list de
- 53:17Speaker 9: Steam list.
- 53:19Speaker 2: That list will never come out.
- 53:21Speaker 8: I don't know, never say never.
- 53:23Speaker 2: And then and then if it comes out, nobody is
- 53:26Speaker 2: going to react.
- 53:27Speaker 1: No listen, this whole Diddy Diddy travesty is all a sham.
- 53:32Speaker 2: Don't nobody care about who?
- 53:34Speaker 1: Nobody care about Diddy buying no prostitutes, nobody care about
- 53:37Speaker 1: how Diddy was partying.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Nobody cared because everybody, all.
- 53:41Speaker 1: Of these people, even the people in the chat, party
- 53:44Speaker 1: the same way. I am the only the honorable glasses
- 53:48Speaker 1: look the only nigga.
- 53:50Speaker 12: That don't party that way. And Cam the only people
- 53:55Speaker 12: that don't party that way. This is normal people party.
- 53:59Speaker 12: The reason in this matter to Diddy is because some
- 54:01Speaker 12: other stuff is going on. Something else is wrong. You
- 54:05Speaker 12: feel me so again, It's like Crooked is making some
- 54:09Speaker 12: compelling points. Could he be making a play to get
- 54:13Speaker 12: out of this deal? Because I did hear that a
- 54:15Speaker 12: couple of times today. This is the wrong way to
- 54:19Speaker 12: do it. The enemies to have if you plan to
- 54:23Speaker 12: be in this business.
- 54:25Speaker 1: After today, It don't even matter whether or not they
- 54:30Speaker 1: let him go. It don't even matter if they let
- 54:33Speaker 1: him go. It does not matter if they let him go.
- 54:39Speaker 1: He made the greatest mistake of his life today in
- 54:43Speaker 1: the business. He made the greatest mistake of his life
- 54:47Speaker 1: in the culture a couple months ago during the battle,
- 54:50Speaker 1: But he made the greatest mistake of his life today
- 54:56Speaker 1: challenging the business.
- 54:59Speaker 5: Possible for the door to.
- 55:01Speaker 4: What if we're seeing a whole trend of in the
- 55:03Speaker 4: last couple of years, and by a couple I mean
- 55:06Speaker 4: sixty but opportunistic Department of Justice prosecutors.
- 55:12Speaker 5: He could do this walk away.
- 55:14Speaker 4: Tomorrow and potentially entice actual criminal investigation action by people
- 55:24Speaker 4: who want to get their name out there.
- 55:28Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, this messing with
- 55:31Speaker 3: somebody like Universal, it would mess around and reverse back
- 55:34Speaker 3: on him. They would fuck around and twist him up
- 55:36Speaker 3: somehow and start looking at this stuff. Because I'm gonna
- 55:38Speaker 3: tell you, all he's going to do is get hisself
- 55:41Speaker 3: further scrutinized. So if he got anything done, if he
- 55:44Speaker 3: got anything filing his catalog, dog, he's gonna be in trouble.
- 55:48Speaker 3: He might be sitting next to Didny somewhere. I'm telling you, man,
- 55:50Speaker 3: these people ain't nothing to play with.
- 55:51Speaker 9: They not nothing to play with. And he like he
- 55:54Speaker 9: like Biden to me, or you know what I'm saying.
- 55:56Speaker 9: He ain't making any decisions. He worked too much to
- 56:00Speaker 9: too many people for for us to think Drake just
- 56:02Speaker 9: made that decision. Somebody else's handlers is advising, somebody else is.
- 56:07Speaker 8: Making him do that.
- 56:08Speaker 1: I think mand Jones on his own reconnaissance and not
- 56:14Speaker 1: talking to him, and that's me his destruction. Shout for
- 56:19Speaker 1: the five dollars the petition.
- 56:21Speaker 2: The petition is filed under a vague LLC.
- 56:24Speaker 1: He didn't want this to go public, but they're trying
- 56:26Speaker 1: to flip it like he's looking out for indie artists.
- 56:30Speaker 1: That is a major boy, that David Jones. He figured
- 56:35Speaker 1: out the audio problem.
- 56:36Speaker 8: We couldn't figured it out.
- 56:38Speaker 2: The crook.
- 56:40Speaker 5: He is going to get replaced by David Jones.
- 56:47Speaker 2: Twish is another no hour Monday, Wednesday and Friday at noon.
- 56:52Speaker 1: Dave, I need you at the lunch hour at twelve
- 56:56Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific Standard time Monday, Wednesday and Friday noon.
- 57:04Speaker 2: I don't know what you got going on. You cook it. Hm,
- 57:08Speaker 2: it's kind of late to be cooking, but you cook,
- 57:10Speaker 2: but you cook it.
- 57:12Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you, though, Man, we
- 57:14Speaker 3: see this all the time, and especially in music. Man,
- 57:18Speaker 3: people allow their youth bridge to start thinking man, that
- 57:21Speaker 3: they that they almost on the deity level. Man, and
- 57:24Speaker 3: they find out the chorus, mh, I'm fly too close
- 57:28Speaker 3: to the sun. I wound up getting heated up. I'm
- 57:30Speaker 3: telling you, man, this is gonna end bad for dude.
- 57:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it just it almost can't work out.
- 57:36Speaker 2: Like he's not.
- 57:38Speaker 1: Like he's empowered by the business.
- 57:41Speaker 2: Like without the business, how do you like he.
- 57:46Speaker 8: Ft on both both sides.
- 57:47Speaker 9: Like he already got something he can't handle from from
- 57:50Speaker 9: Kendrick in these West Coast and now the United States.
- 57:53Speaker 8: Fans street, these street people, the soldiers.
- 57:56Speaker 9: And now he want to throw a fit against Daddy
- 57:59Speaker 9: or or whatever.
- 58:00Speaker 4: You know.
- 58:01Speaker 8: What I'm saying is lose lose situation.
- 58:04Speaker 3: He had to do, man, I'm pretty sure his advisors
- 58:07Speaker 3: told him this. All he had to do was ship
- 58:09Speaker 3: the fuck up and go somewhere.
- 58:11Speaker 1: You know what's funny that we keep thinking his advisors
- 58:14Speaker 1: is telling him that. I'm starting to really believe No,
- 58:17Speaker 1: they're not.
- 58:21Speaker 2: Told this.
- 58:22Speaker 1: A long time ago, he said, glasses, people be telling
- 58:24Speaker 1: these people whatever they want to hear. He told me
- 58:26Speaker 1: that at an elephant bar in Lakewood. He said, Glasses,
- 58:29Speaker 1: these people telling these people whatever they want to hear.
- 58:32Speaker 1: They're trying to keep their business. And I equated. I
- 58:36Speaker 1: equated that to people trying to keep their positions at
- 58:38Speaker 1: the job.
- 58:39Speaker 2: So they telling the payroll whatever they need to hear
- 58:44Speaker 2: to stay on the payroll.
- 58:46Speaker 9: I can see that because I can see, like did
- 58:48Speaker 9: he did? He did the same thing, So I guess
- 58:51Speaker 9: he didn't have no advisors to tell him to try
- 58:54Speaker 9: to sue dally On or whoever that was the city.
- 58:57Speaker 8: So I guess you could be right about that.
- 59:01Speaker 3: This is all arrogance man, This is all his arrogancet man.
- 59:04Speaker 3: It's gonna be his undoing because he seems to think
- 59:08Speaker 3: I'm Drake, I can do whatever the hell I want
- 59:10Speaker 3: to do, and he do this, he gonna find out
- 59:12Speaker 3: the hard way.
- 59:13Speaker 2: He already did it.
- 59:14Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like he already he already put that
- 59:20Speaker 1: out there. Iteddy's lawsuit was like it wasn't about that,
- 59:25Speaker 1: Like he filed this so they could force so he
- 59:28Speaker 1: could force them to deliver.
- 59:30Speaker 2: Material, paperwork and stuff about the claims.
- 59:34Speaker 1: Like if you start getting you know, the government in
- 59:38Speaker 1: these people business, you're gonna have a real problem.
- 59:43Speaker 8: Ain't the best question.
- 59:45Speaker 3: Univers will pay a lot of money. Universe will pay
- 59:47Speaker 3: a lot of taxes. Brough. It's a lot of people
- 59:49Speaker 3: making money off at university. You gotta remember, it ain't
- 59:52Speaker 3: just music, it'st movies, it's liquor, it's all kind of stuff.
- 59:56Speaker 3: They got their hands in, man and they make it.
- 59:58Speaker 3: They pay a lot of money, They make a lot
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: of money, and they make a lot of other people money.
- 1:00:03Speaker 8: So the question is why, damn.
- 1:00:05Speaker 9: Let's let's look at why if Drake is accusing him
- 1:00:08Speaker 9: of that, why would they do that to Drake?
- 1:00:12Speaker 8: Why? What would their motivation?
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: Bro? That's Drake in his mind?
- 1:00:17Speaker 9: No, I mean, just let's let's humor that though. Let's
- 1:00:19Speaker 9: let's just try to go down that little rabbit hole
- 1:00:21Speaker 9: for a second. What would they have against Drake? Why
- 1:00:24Speaker 9: would they favor Kendrick over Drake?
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: It would be almost kind of like the way you see,
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: you know how, like with regard to certain like virality algorithms,
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: when something starts to get hot, they go like the
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: algorithm identifies it. It went from zero to one thousand,
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: like really fast, so it will flood it. So it
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: goes from one thousand to ten million. And perhaps they
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: were just like, all right, what Kenderck just did is
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: bigger than what we foresee Drake doing in the near future.
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: So we're gonna flood this and capitalize on this moment
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: because it's that this is the moment that we're gonna
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: the most out.
- 1:01:00Speaker 9: Of at Drake, at Drake's at Drake's expense of being
- 1:01:08Speaker 9: called the a minor. So they don't care nothing about
- 1:01:11Speaker 9: his character.
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: See, we all know that the last thing he did
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: get four hundred million. You don't get all that money
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: at once. And there's some stipulations in there too. Lastly,
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: they don't want to give him the rest of that money,
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: and they do kind of want to f him off.
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: And sometimes you know this, it might be like Jerry
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: Krause and the nineteen ninety eight bulls.
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: Look you've peaked.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: Honestly, I cannot think of one single reason that the
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: business would empower Kendrick over Drake.
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: Me neither.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: I can't I gat that of a sole reason. Five
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: year outlook, the business would They're the same age, not
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: one sole reason.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Can I think of why the business would empower Ken Like?
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: Drake has had so many records, smash hit records. I
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: think he's like thirteen in fourteen in like, he has
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: more number one records on the Hot one hundred than
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: Kendrick forced their hands. Kendrick kicked him out of the community.
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: It forced their hands.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even true, because I gotta.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: Ask truth this question. At any point, man, did Drake
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: reach out to you for you to rescue him, man,
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: for you to donate? Yo?
- 1:02:38Speaker 7: Still man, that's hilarious, you know what I'm saying. That's hysterical,
- 1:02:43Speaker 7: but real talk.
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: It is kind of like, why would they like it
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: would have to be some behind the scenes stuff that
- 1:02:53Speaker 6: we not pretty too. That could be the only reason
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: why they would choose to push Kendrick and push Drake out,
- 1:03:02Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Because even a mid tier
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: Drake is bringing him money, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: So and I'm gonna tell you though, people gotta twist
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: that Drake was a bigger artist than on Kendrick.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean but but minus hold on,
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: I got you Grid, but minus the bigger artist. I
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: cannot think of one sole reason the label chooses.
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: Kendrick over Drake. It doesn't make sense like he had
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: to actually win the I mean, listen, he had better records.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: I think during the battle, I think Drake didn't lean
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: to his strategy of making really good records that can
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: be played all over the country. I think he really
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: went into it with a battle mind. I'm gonna battle
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: this guy, like you know, he he believed all of
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: the height of battle rap and and you know when
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: he went away from what work of him in the
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: Meek Meal battle right, which was back to back, and
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: then he gets to the even when he gets in
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: a push of tea battle, he dropped a rap song
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: like where he's just rapping, and then he gets in
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: the Kendrick battle and the push up record is dope, right,
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: this is good catching, but then every other record is
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: not a really great record, right, So.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: I think he lost the battle.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: I think he lost the battle on his own right,
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: and but I cannot find one reason why the business
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: would ever favored Kendrick over Drake.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: I can't find one reason in my mind.
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: I don't think I think best kind of reaching right there.
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: I think it's kind of reaching, bro, And I'm gonna
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: tell you what it is. Man. Drake has been lifting
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: out his fantasies over the last ten to fifteen years. Right,
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: He's been messing with girls that he probably would have
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: never had the chance to knock down if he wouldn't.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: Drake gotta remember that dude used to look corny gee
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: before he got the money, and that I didn't.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Use to It looks hard yesterday, yeah, right now, Like
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: he just looks like he's impersonating Nust, Me and Corny.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He gets a real corner, dude,
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: when you really think about it. Right, So he's been
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: living fantasies. He's been going he's been really fascinated with
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: Battle Rep. He's been going to League, been sponsoring League,
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: he's sponsoring the whole U r L. But then you
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: know they little streaming thing they had going on, and
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: he really thought, in his mind, this is going to
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: be my chance to immortalize myself in a battle.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Did an incredible job with the meek meal battle hold.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Let me get through these super chatter real quick. Shout
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: out to Captain d Hard, Thanks for the five dollars.
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: Brother.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: It's been reported he is in contract negotiations before the
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: battles started. Don't know if that's true, but it's on
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: Twitter now. He had did that a couple of years ago.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Maybe he did for an extension, but I know he
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: did that a year or two. Go shout out to
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Calor Production, thanks for the two dollars. My brother is spiritual.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: I really believe God writers. I think that's I agree
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: with you in the innate sense of the battle, but
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: that is not what Universal.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: Music Group is pushing.
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: Righteous people not like forgive me because I don't want
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: to say that they don't have any talent that's righteous.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't think that's a wanging factor for
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: them to market and act is if they're a righteous person.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: I just think that's the furthest thing from their mind.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't want to make it people.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: I don't want to go.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Too hard on them, you know, because I don't know
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: business practices. I ain't been in there. But the last
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: thing that I get from them is righteous.
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: That's I don't get that. As far as artistry.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie Omar, I do. Thanks for
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: the five dollars. This is some great dialogues. Salu Fellas.
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed it. Man, we're tackling it right now.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: It's late because like this is just breaking events.
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: It just matters.
- 1:06:49Speaker 6: Yo, yo glasses. Let's go back to the battle real quick.
- 1:06:52Speaker 6: I feel like it. I feel like what Still is
- 1:06:55Speaker 6: talking about going into all these battle rap events and
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: all that one the first thing you people in that
- 1:07:01Speaker 6: world is people use angles, and you know what I mean.
- 1:07:06Speaker 7: His angle was to live bro Kendrick. He just wanted
- 1:07:10Speaker 7: to little.
- 1:07:10Speaker 8: Brilliant, he feel me.
- 1:07:12Speaker 7: And Hendrick was coming.
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: With concept records like Meet the Grahams, and he was
- 1:07:17Speaker 6: taking it all the way around the world with his
- 1:07:19Speaker 6: pen as far as coming you know, on some battleship
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: and I feel like if if he was really paying
- 1:07:26Speaker 6: attention in them battle events, then we would have different
- 1:07:29Speaker 6: records right now. And on the tip of the you know,
- 1:07:34Speaker 6: the spirituality to I don't think he talking about universal
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: music spirituality and they practices.
- 1:07:40Speaker 7: I think he's talking about.
- 1:07:41Speaker 6: Just period like it's time for you know, something else
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: to come into play because of all of the the
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: the demons in the music playground right now.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Totally totally agree that there's a real demand for the
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: Universe first is demanding for it. But trust me, Universal
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Music Group is not at the They are not the
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: hands for these class group.
- 1:08:10Speaker 7: Universe Music Group.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: I swear classes you got a painting or some sort
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: of an artistic piece as the result of this battle, correct,
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: I do have what does that depict?
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: I forget Drake doing push ups while Kendrick as the
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: master is watching him.
- 1:08:30Speaker 8: Indeed, indeed, okay, drop down, give me fifty.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: There you go. Yes, I agree with Crooked.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: The Universe Music Group is definitely demanding more of a
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: righteous fold. And and I mean something I've talked to
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: Cam over the years about, you know, when it comes
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: to health and and and being street as I am
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: and the language that I use, like you could always
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: be a street guy and be very much a righteous person.
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: They don't.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: They're not mutually exclusive. They can go together.
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to stand up and
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: be who you are, even in the face of friends.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: Right, you still gotta be stern.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's the business of Universal
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: Music Group.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I think Universal Music Group do.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: I think behind the scenes they have some backdoor deals
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: that can encourage people to do the wrong thing. Sure,
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: but I also think, you know, people like to share
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: in silly shit.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: You know, you like, I don't do drugs, but people
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: like drugs. I don't know why.
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: I will probably be the last person to tell you
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: why somebody like drugs or alcohol.
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: I could never understand it.
- 1:09:49Speaker 9: Do you think why do you think Drake wanted to
- 1:09:52Speaker 9: get involved in the battle rap scene? Do you think
- 1:09:55Speaker 9: that he wants an army or a brotherhood hood? He
- 1:10:00Speaker 9: wants to for his manhood nature to be respected?
- 1:10:04Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:10:04Speaker 9: Because you can, you can have all the females liking
- 1:10:06Speaker 9: you all over the world. But I really think with him.
- 1:10:09Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, Champ. Everybody's like going to
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: the zoo, right, because you know everybody, what's the favorite thing?
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: People like, what's the fake what's the biggest attraction of
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: the zoo? The gorillas and the gorilla lines right because
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: they behind the cage. Right, how many people you think
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: will go to zoo? If the motherfuckers is running free.
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: When you go to park a lot, you know, gorillas
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: just swing and treat the treatmhen you come in and
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: just who just bombing on people lines, you know, biting
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: people's head off, and shit, wouldn't nobody want to see
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: that live? I think Drake has been going to the
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: zoo man now, he think he could walk among the beasts.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: Shout out to ec DC tech academics talking about glasses.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Long of twenty thousand viewers, Story of my Life, brother, Story.
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: Of my Life always did something.
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: It's always somebody that's entirely too famous upset at me.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: So I'm used to it.
- 1:11:03Speaker 9: I mean it's not bad, yeah, But like I said,
- 1:11:07Speaker 9: the beautiful thing though, is people that, like I said,
- 1:11:10Speaker 9: the poverty, you know, produces an army, a brotherhood. So
- 1:11:16Speaker 9: the ain't ain't no amount of money, ain't on amount
- 1:11:18Speaker 9: of females and popularity or whatever that can equal a
- 1:11:22Speaker 9: real army. You know what I'm saying. That's that's riding
- 1:11:24Speaker 9: and sliding for love and respect. So I think that's
- 1:11:26Speaker 9: what he deficient of. You know what I'm saying. All
- 1:11:29Speaker 9: of us on this panel, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:11:31Speaker 9: including Pete got more respect. I think you know what
- 1:11:34Speaker 9: I'm saying than dude do That's fit where it counts.
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: And I think it's also Yeah, because of that deficiency,
- 1:11:43Speaker 4: he's not going to go get it in the streets.
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: This is the closest place.
- 1:11:46Speaker 8: He can go to get it, man, that's true.
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: Shout out to a J. I think it's pronounced or
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: a job, but I think it's AJ. The only thanks
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: for the five dollars, Brodie. The only reason I can
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: foresee U m G. Pushing Dot over rate at any
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: moment is if they know some Nafari ship on his
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: jacket that might hit the streets.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: That's a great point that possibly I think Dave for
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: sure will unconnect from your ass. Have you got to.
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: And what was the theme of the song?
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: Right?
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: No?
- 1:12:21Speaker 8: Right?
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: But but I'll be honest. When I asked Dot, he
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie? Did ask Dot? He said, glasses, you
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: ain't know me to be no liar.
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: What I'm saying all this fear, all this fear, right, and.
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: I think there's you know, hops are kind of genre
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: where when it goes, it goes quick for a lot
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: of artists. You know, you can have a run for
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: a long long time, and when it when you're no
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: longer to sound anymore, it's it. You have to wait
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: until you're like now now you're like old school hop
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: because people remember you.
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: Another five dollars, my boy.
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: It's a new contract in the lawsuit that says he
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: owns his master's and copyright.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Well, that could be another thing too.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: That could be another thing too, cap Like, if you
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: own your masters and your copyrights, they might invest in
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: somebody else because it's more money to be made.
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: I know that's true too, you know what I mean?
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: That can be a good point.
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: Let me ask you some real he started to cut
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: you off. How many artists do y'all know, man, that
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: really were big deals that their finances don't reflect it
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: right now? You know guys like from the nineties that
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: have really huge records and really big careers. That was
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: the Kindreds back in the day. How many of those
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: guys do you see that their finances may not be
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: all the way right? And not trying to you know,
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: just them dudes or nothing, but just trying to make
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: a point.
- 1:13:53Speaker 9: Most of them meet me included, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:13:57Speaker 9: So you know, it's a business it's a business. It's
- 1:14:00Speaker 9: also a boys club. You know, people get to work
- 1:14:03Speaker 9: that stay in the circle. It's a certain it's a
- 1:14:05Speaker 9: such thing as gatekeepers or whatever, you know, a little
- 1:14:08Speaker 9: boy's club that they're gonna they gonna keep you working
- 1:14:11Speaker 9: if you if you get down like they get down.
- 1:14:13Speaker 9: So I never got down like them, period. So you know,
- 1:14:15Speaker 9: I was never invited to the Reindeer games.
- 1:14:19Speaker 3: I say all that to say this, man, you can
- 1:14:23Speaker 3: never you can never get in the position dude the
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: way you think you too, big man, because I don't
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: seen some big dudes fault.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: Man, he definitely, he definitely, no matter how it go,
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: this was a mistake. There's no way he could come
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: out on the other end and this not be a
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: mistake because now you're making enemies.
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: With really powerful people.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Who are happened to be a lot further vested in
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: the business you want to succeed in than you do.
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: Not to mention again, it's like maybe you know, I
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think of what makes sense. Maybe
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: he's gonna quit. Maybe he's like, you know what, I'm
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: done with this. I'm gonna blow the lid off of it,
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna ride off into the sunset. Maybe
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: I think he just reached I said, yeah.
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: The sunset gonna be crazy.
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: You know in.
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: Canada you go far off north and the sun doesn't
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: set for months during the summer.
- 1:15:25Speaker 8: You're stuck in the daytime.
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite know how this works out.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: Again, the culture kind of they're done with him, right,
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: which he does have a fan base. To Kriuk's point
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: earlier that you know he got from obviously years and
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: years of great music and success, right that that he's
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: going to have an audience. But Universal is tied to
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: the people that own the arenas. Universal is tied to
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: the people that actually streamed the music.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: Universal, like you.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying, You start to put yourself into
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: a disadvantage because these people are connected to everybody, you
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: know what I mean, and they will stop.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: So I don't quite know what the thought is.
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: I just think it's a bad thought.
- 1:16:09Speaker 3: Quick. What was his last three records? Because then his
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: last three records do like unbelievably bad. His last three singles.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: He tried to drop, I mean, bad for Drake is
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: probably not in the top twenties.
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: No, I don't think these records even hit the top
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: one hundred.
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: From what I mean, well, I think he put out
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: a lot.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Mind. Yeah, he's obviously been struggling. He's obviously been struggling.
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: But I also don't think he went in there and
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: started to try to make really great records that address
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: where he's at and gave people what they.
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: Wanted to hear.
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: I don't think it will matter.
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: I mean, it's still like how j Cole was able
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: to do with that song where he tried to rewrite
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: history and act like, oh y'all to do.
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: Didn't get hit like this he was.
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: I don't think like this.
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: You know this is John came out with latinum album
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: and the gold album in top forty songs. Joe Rule
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: still is streets, so he understands what not to do.
- 1:17:19Speaker 5: Rul's persona nongrada for a decade.
- 1:17:22Speaker 8: Mm hmm yeah, but this is worse.
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:17:27Speaker 5: That's why the company pivoted.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: Like this could be and remember and remember, like to John,
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: them's situation, Remember they called a fair case. And that's
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: when the label walked away from Shug, walked away from
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: Jay and walked away from uh Earth at that same time,
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: they all had caught fit. People didn't realize that they
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: all called fair cases at the same time.
- 1:17:49Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give a real trip off that
- 1:17:52Speaker 9: So Drake trying to give Universe who a fair case?
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, his his attorneys to mention Rico in the
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: paperwork like that.
- 1:18:01Speaker 8: Is it's not it's not good. It's not gonna end good.
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: They could be going through some kind of crisis right now, man,
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: where he's like he's gonna seem too much and he's about
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: to tell it all. You know, you got that one
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: homie that you take on the mission. You see the
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: probably shouldn't be going the next day. He might be
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: about to drop the bomb.
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: Bro shout out to George Williams. He said, that's why
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: we never get ahead. He's not scared to be the
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: fall guy for the future guys. This has nothing to
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: do with fall god.
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: For future guys.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: All he's going to do is stop record companies from
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: marketing record He's not even gonna stop anything. There's nothing
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: for anybody else that's going to And he's not himself
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: being a fall guy.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: He's point. He got another guy.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: He's like that guy. He's not saying, hey, you know what,
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: this is what the record label. If he wanted to
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: be the fall guy and didn't want yeah, he could
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: do it for himself. He could be like, this is
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: how they marketed me. This is how they spent the money.
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: I have the paperwork right here, here's the proof. Look
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: at this, this, this, this, this. But he's doing what
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: Gunna did. He's like, no, look what they did for him.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Look at that guy over there. They did this for him,
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: you know ex Rico so Forth and so on. You
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: feel me, they did that for him. Now, if he
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: wanted to be the fall guy, he would say, this
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: is what they did for me. Hey, you know what.
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: They falsely marketed my stuff. They made me bigger than
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: I was. My numbers caught up and I was an
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: Arenas so Forth and so on. That's if he was
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: trying to be a fall guy or a martyr or
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: or or Jesus type of person in that regard, he
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: would take the responsibility. He would not be pointing at
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: who he could consider his Judas as Jesus didn't be
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: like it was Judas. It was like whatever feemy Draken,
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: like Drake Peno Brown in the court room.
- 1:20:00Speaker 9: On New Jack City, damn and Drake Drake low key
- 1:20:04Speaker 9: like Howard Hughes. You've seen a Howard huge story in
- 1:20:07Speaker 9: The Eccentric went crazy and the big ass man just
- 1:20:10Speaker 9: start peeing in bottles and lining them up, grew on
- 1:20:12Speaker 9: his fingernails all along.
- 1:20:14Speaker 8: Drake, might you might need to get that little fifty
- 1:20:16Speaker 8: one to fifty watch.
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: My boy was like me, no, he was like it
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: was Kendrick. You a witness everybody.
- 1:20:26Speaker 4: Drake showed up to the police department with the rape cap.
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: G I gotta go on, pick a baby girl. I
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: love y'all.
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: Man in a minute, my boy, Yeah, he not.
- 1:20:38Speaker 6: He not a fall guy. He's a I want to
- 1:20:42Speaker 6: speak to the manager. That's what he's doing right now,
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And you know, if he
- 1:20:49Speaker 6: wanted to talk about how corrupt the industry is, he
- 1:20:52Speaker 6: wouldn't have waited to turn the light on on his
- 1:20:56Speaker 6: supposed enemy.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 1:20:58Speaker 6: This is this is this has nothing to do with
- 1:21:01Speaker 6: anything righteous for the future of artistry.
- 1:21:04Speaker 7: You feel me?
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: Now?
- 1:21:06Speaker 7: Will it end up being something like that, We don't.
- 1:21:10Speaker 6: I doubt it, But okay, that would just be a
- 1:21:14Speaker 6: byproduct of him trying to get vengeance and stay on
- 1:21:17Speaker 6: his mission.
- 1:21:18Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:21:19Speaker 6: It's not in his intentions to to save to save
- 1:21:22Speaker 6: the music.
- 1:21:23Speaker 7: You feel me if you're not gonna do that.
- 1:21:27Speaker 6: So he's the first lay Yeah u MG, Like you said, man,
- 1:21:35Speaker 6: you know they they when they start activating. Boy, let
- 1:21:39Speaker 6: me tell you if people people don't think they had
- 1:21:43Speaker 6: nothing to do with with with that Rico from the
- 1:21:45Speaker 6: Color of Colorful Hair.
- 1:21:46Speaker 7: Guy, you know what, they stay out their minds.
- 1:21:50Speaker 6: So my whole thing is, like you said, they got
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: a lot of power and this ain't gonna unfold how
- 1:21:57Speaker 6: him and his team thought.
- 1:21:58Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't know, Bro, like he crashing out,
- 1:22:03Speaker 7: You feel me like he crashing out right now? That's
- 1:22:06Speaker 7: all that's all he doing.
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: He was smartier right now there he is, come for Kenny,
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: the educated brother from Compton. That's who the real leader
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: of this, this this ambition Undertaker is doing.
- 1:22:24Speaker 4: If Dre was smart, he should have paid another artist
- 1:22:28Speaker 4: to sue and paid for the legal fish.
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: Oh Man shout out to Flocko.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: He said, come on, big bro, Drake is doing this
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: for the people like us who preach against corrupt infrastructure.
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: We should be celebrating this. This is bigger than Kendrick
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: and Drake. I would buy that what they did for
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: him and his business. He come out and break the
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: industry in half. All you got to do is like,
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: this is what they did for me. They made this work.
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: I know they spent this money. Here's the proof. He
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: could talk about everything, but when he's pointing at Kendrick,
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: That's why it's not about preaching against the corrupt infrastructure,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: bro the benefactor.
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: He is suing them for a song called not Like
- 1:23:15Speaker 6: Us by Kendrick Lamar. That's what the fuck this is about, Bro,
- 1:23:20Speaker 6: like not try to you know what I mean. I'm
- 1:23:24Speaker 6: the most positive thinking brother you can fucking meet, you
- 1:23:27Speaker 6: know what I mean. But he's not going to go
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: into the land of fairy tale. The motherfucker said, Yo,
- 1:23:33Speaker 6: not like Us. It's the craziest fucking the Tommy nuclear
- 1:23:37Speaker 6: bomb that ever dropped on the rapper's head. And like
- 1:23:40Speaker 6: that ship everywhere I go, they planned it in the
- 1:23:44Speaker 6: World series.
- 1:23:49Speaker 7: He's trying to it has nothing to do with that
- 1:23:52Speaker 7: other ship.
- 1:23:53Speaker 6: Now, like I said, if it becomes a if that
- 1:23:55Speaker 6: other ship becomes a byproduct, please believe it is not
- 1:23:59Speaker 6: his intention because simply put like you said, Gee, he's
- 1:24:03Speaker 6: pointing his finger. Bro, He's pointing his finger and he's saying, Yo,
- 1:24:07Speaker 6: this is what they did for him, and I'm going
- 1:24:10Speaker 6: to expose it.
- 1:24:12Speaker 7: If not like us as a dud. We never had
- 1:24:15Speaker 7: this conversation.
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: And poet Clocko.
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: When you told me the album dish, I didn't believe it.
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: This is unbelievable.
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: You were right.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: I don't know how you predicted it, Flocko. Hip hop
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: is street urban culture. The first time we talk on
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: your platform on No Jumper, I explained it to you.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: It's artistically expressed street urban culture. It's the way you act, walk, talk.
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: Everything about it is that it's not It doesn't lead
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: with music first. The confusion is that it leads with
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: music first. No, it leads with culture first. If it
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: led with music, Chief Keith win it sold three records.
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: No disrespect to Chief Keith, but he ain't quite Herbie Hancock,
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: he's not quite Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson. You know
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: it's music isn't quite you know, Ray Charles, you know
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: he's not on a piano playing.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: You feel me. That type of couldn't work if it
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: was music first.
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: If that was the case, then Leon Haywood's song would
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: be multi platinum and Doctor Dre's song would have only
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: sold you know, g would have sold five thousand if
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: it was about music, because the music in these other
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: genres is superior the music. Now when you add in
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: the fact that hip hop is about culture, it's about
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: discovery and people that don't have a voice, and a
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: movement of people that refuse to be ignored and determine
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: to let you know they exist and talk about their
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: experience in this very small minute population in America. All
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: it's very few ghettos that create the stuff that we're
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: talking about.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's what hip hop is about,
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: and that's what we come for.
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: See, I've never been confused and thought to myself, we
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: come from music again, Like right now, people ask me
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: all the time, you gonna listen to more new artists.
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'm actually listening for music now now
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: I'm not listening for culture. I'm like, well, what actually
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: sounds good. I'm gonna go play Hall of Noakes. I'm
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: going to go play Prince. I'm going to go discover
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: the third Marvin Gaye album because I'm going to listen
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: to music, but when I listen to hip hop, I
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: listen for culture, I listen for lingo, I listen for style,
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: fashion representation, and then music. So again, it's like when
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: you was asking me how that battle will play out.
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: It's a guy with culture that understands culture versus a
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: guy with no street urban culture zero. He's been kind
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: of like impersonating it. It's like asking me, you know what,
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: a in a soul ful competition, who would win? Like
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: Eminem's Prime Eminem or Kentucky Fried Chicken. There's nobody in
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: the world that's going to taste both soul fools. You
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: asking me who in King Tacos or Taco Bill, anybody
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: would taste buds.
- 1:27:05Speaker 2: It's going to work.
- 1:27:07Speaker 9: Where it's a certain type of taste buds Because to me,
- 1:27:10Speaker 9: it's like also like uh, Godzilla and King Kong, right,
- 1:27:14Speaker 9: the machine made them both global monsters, but when it
- 1:27:19Speaker 9: comes to them battling each other, one of them got
- 1:27:21Speaker 9: way more weapons than the other one, you know what
- 1:27:24Speaker 9: I'm saying on that On that scene.
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: It to me like it was like when I first
- 1:27:30Speaker 4: started seeing the comments and some of the posts about
- 1:27:33Speaker 4: this on social media, the wagons circled so fast. They
- 1:27:40Speaker 4: circled so fast, and like this is is is South stupid.
- 1:27:44Speaker 4: It's kind of funny. You three guys haven't been on
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: that side of the wagons like I feel. How the
- 1:27:52Speaker 4: wagons circle on to be You know, it happens fast
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: and you see it boom and it doesn't unhappen, and
- 1:27:59Speaker 4: everybody in the room knew it. And it was cool
- 1:28:03Speaker 4: for Drake until Drake just did that little thing to
- 1:28:07Speaker 4: give him the excuse. And he did it, and he
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: capitalized on it, and they just went and he was
- 1:28:13Speaker 4: over there.
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: It happened so fast.
- 1:28:17Speaker 7: I got a question, where does Drake go from here?
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: He justss he has to wait until he's nostalgic.
- 1:28:28Speaker 8: I think I think he would never do this.
- 1:28:33Speaker 10: But if he, if he apologized, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:28:37Speaker 10: if he if he apologized to the culture and embraced
- 1:28:41Speaker 10: you know, reality instead of playing like he was God
- 1:28:45Speaker 10: and trying.
- 1:28:45Speaker 8: To son everybody.
- 1:28:46Speaker 9: And you know, because you on this, I'm rich and
- 1:28:48Speaker 9: I'm balling and I'm playing these money games, and you
- 1:28:51Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, you have to break it all
- 1:28:52Speaker 9: the way down.
- 1:28:53Speaker 8: And get with some real people. Do it.
- 1:28:56Speaker 9: Do a whole lot of charity. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 1:28:59Speaker 9: you gotta do a whole lot of Santa Claus.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: You have to actually come clean and be for real.
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: You have to be genuine. Shout out to Big China.
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: Blogger said he bullies people legally and he really wants
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: to sue that. I believe that too. Shout out the tree,
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: he said, Invite him to the podcast, man, d wouldn't
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: come to this. Drake wouldn't come to that podcast.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: It's funny because we wouldn't even be talking about this stuff,
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: but he would be so mad and upset that he
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: wouldn't really, you know, be okay with the conversation.
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: Hold on, this is this is head called him? Let
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: me see what he talking about? Like, what up? I
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: can't call it.
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: I got you on the live stream with me, Crooked
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: Cam and Pete.
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry nobout.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: Everybody knows that when you call me, is required that
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: you say cuz that's how everybody greets me, all the
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: white lawyers managers to say what's up?
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: Because when he called me, like what's up? Because come on,
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: I don't.
- 1:30:06Speaker 11: To understand the process behind the goings on.
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: What the going is on is we can't figure it out.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: We've been trying to discover and what's going on for
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: the last hour and thirty five minutes, and none of
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: us is really close. Because the best thing I heard
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: came from a comment where somebody said he owns his
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: master's and copyright in his new contract. So maybe that's
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: why they could favor Kendrick over him, But I still
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: don't understand why that would bother him to the point
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: to where he would sabotage his business future with UMG
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: and affiliates.
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: I mean, that's a I get to.
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: I still don't think so, because I would imagine the
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: money with Drake and where they have positioned him to
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: is incredible.
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: So it doesn't makes sense.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: So the most the most realistic, you know, solution is
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: he's having in an emotional outbreak and he has the
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: kind of money that people are not saying, hey, this
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: is not a wise idea.
- 1:31:16Speaker 11: I don't think there's any one probably around that's going
- 1:31:19Speaker 11: to culturally navigate.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: Him, and that's again the same problem Cam said. Crooet
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: asked a question, he said, what would it take to
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: get Drake back into a decent position, and Cam said
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: he'll never do this, but to apologize to the culture
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: into everything else about what he's been doing and decide
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: to himself he's going to become more of a humanitarian
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: and look out for the culture that he's benefited off.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Of and work from there.
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: But again, it would take a level of self awareness,
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: like conscious to where you can understand what's happening. And
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: I definitely do not believe he has his self aware
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: to understand and you know, possible consequences for misusing the
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: culture this way to the benefit of just making money
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: and feeling like the equivalent is empowering a couple of
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: other rappers, which really still gives you the same credibility,
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I don't think Drake
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: is one of these people who don't. I think he
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: definated the schools and he tries his best, but this
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: is something really deep, like this is a really you know,
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: we're hard on each other.
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: He had community wise over this.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: We are hard over people who've really been through this,
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: let alone people who didn't go through this. So I
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: mean it requires a shout out to either seventy eight.
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: The answer is it requires humility and you can forget
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: about that.
- 1:32:48Speaker 11: Yeah, there's numerous there's a couple of individuals who have
- 1:32:55Speaker 11: experenced a lot of humility over the last few years.
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: I progress with the system.
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: Sure, sure, all right, I'm here you once we finished, so.
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I crooked. I think we then
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: spent a lot of time. Cam.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: I think we just spent a lot of time trying
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: to figure out I don't have the answer.
- 1:33:24Speaker 7: So the answer comes back to a Kendrick song.
- 1:33:26Speaker 8: Be humble, mm hmm. Is that gonna happen?
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: And that'll do it? Much love to y'all, Man, see
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: y'all Wednesday at noon. Man he thanks Crooking, Thanks big Bro,
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: Cam Pete. We back here Wednesday. Make sure y'all go
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