Latest / Ron Verb / The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Monday, 07/27/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Back to it, 4.06 in the afternoon.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Your fearless leader, Ron Verb, 86 degrees on this Monday,
- 0:10Speaker 1: July 27th. Fort Lauderdale, Frank, hello, is out there. Did
- 0:15Speaker 1: you hear the news report that just ran at 4 o'clock?
- 0:19Speaker 3: About what?
- 0:20Speaker 2: About..
- 0:21Speaker 1: People are taking out of their savings because of inflation
- 0:26Speaker 1: for groceries and payday loans and this kind of stuff.
- 0:29Speaker 1: So this idea that, I mean, I am not optimistic.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Some of these guys that I study, and I'll pick
- 0:36Speaker 1: your brain for a change. Some of these guys that
- 0:38Speaker 1: I study, some of these oil analysts are saying that,
- 0:42Speaker 1: like I mentioned to you, we're depleting our reserves. We've
- 0:45Speaker 1: been tapping into our strategic oil reserves, 172 million barrels.
- 0:50Speaker 1: to keep prices low. China's been doing it. China has
- 0:53Speaker 1: a bigger reserve than we do. But that option is
- 0:57Speaker 1: going away because we've been doing it so much and
- 0:59Speaker 1: so long. So they're saying once we're through our reserves
- 1:03Speaker 1: or hit this point, which they predict is in August,
- 1:08Speaker 1: you could see some significant increases if this war is
- 1:10Speaker 1: still going on as far as oil prices are concerned
- 1:16Speaker 1: and diesel and gasoline.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Well, you know what I want to say? When G2 said, oh,
- 1:24Speaker 3: if Biden had not depleted the reserves by 224 billion barrels,
- 1:31Speaker 3: we'd still have plenty. But you know what, Ron? I
- 1:34Speaker 3: don't give a damn. This war has gone on for
- 1:37Speaker 3: five months. Let's say we had another 224 billion in
- 1:41Speaker 3: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That would mean the war could
- 1:46Speaker 3: go another seven months. before we hit tank bottom, and
- 1:51Speaker 3: that prices would go up. G2, what Trump should have done,
- 1:57Speaker 3: is not depleted the Strategic Petroleum Reserve at all. He
- 2:01Speaker 3: should have let the American people know what the true
- 2:04Speaker 3: costs of this war, and not release the oil so
- 2:09Speaker 3: oil prices and gas prices would stay down. Now, you know,
- 2:16Speaker 3: in the Democrat primary races... It was a clean sweep
- 2:20Speaker 3: for every candidate endorsed by Zoran Mamdani, who is now
- 2:25Speaker 3: the most popular politician in the Democrat Party. But the
- 2:29Speaker 3: biggest reason establishment Democrats lost is because their opponents rejected
- 2:35Speaker 3: the pro-Israel, pro-Zionist messaging of the establishment. Now, for example..
- 2:42Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I wonder if the economic message isn't... I just can't
- 2:49Speaker 1: see those folks winning anything. You've got to admit, the
- 2:53Speaker 1: people that are getting the nod with the Democrats are really,
- 2:57Speaker 1: really deeply troubling with their economics. And you certainly don't
- 3:03Speaker 1: agree with it. I mean, I find it terribly disturbing.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Well, you know what... The reason why the establishment Democrats
- 3:13Speaker 3: lost in their primaries, politicians taking money from corporate PACs,
- 3:19Speaker 3: from Wall Street, and private equity firms, from crypto, from AI,
- 3:25Speaker 3: and from Israel-only lobby money, I think that's the real
- 3:29Speaker 3: reason Israel lost big in the Democrat primaries. And not
- 3:33Speaker 3: just the Democrat Party, but Ron, all voters except for
- 3:37Speaker 3: right-wing Republicans are tired. of big money controlling Washington and
- 3:43Speaker 3: state governments.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Yeah, but when is it going to change? I mean,
- 3:47Speaker 1: if you're saying that Republicans and Democrats are guilty of
- 3:51Speaker 1: taking money for campaign contributions and cutting deals that aren't
- 3:56Speaker 1: in your best interest, that's been going on for as
- 3:59Speaker 1: long as I can remember.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Well, that's what the big change was. All these establishment
- 4:05Speaker 3: Democrats taking big money from Israel and APAC and Wall Street,
- 4:11Speaker 3: they lost. What Democrat voters want, Ron, is the same
- 4:16Speaker 3: as every American. Affordable housing, affordable rent, affordable food and
- 4:21Speaker 3: affordable gas.
- 4:22Speaker 1: But you're not going to get that through socialism. You're
- 4:25Speaker 1: not going to get that through the Mondami agenda. It
- 4:28Speaker 1: just doesn't work. It's not going to work. If you
- 4:32Speaker 1: think that's the answer, it's only going to be worse.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Well, you know what, the surveys that I've seen..
- 4:37Speaker 2: I mean, don't misunderstand me.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I do think that's the economic message that is resonating
- 4:43Speaker 1: with a lot of people.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you.
- 4:46Speaker 1: A lot of people are sick and tired of the
- 4:48Speaker 1: special interests getting their ways, and Joe Bagadona's being ignored,
- 4:51Speaker 1: and a lot of people are concerned with the economics
- 4:53Speaker 1: that are going on.
- 4:55Speaker 2: So it resonates with a lot of folks. in the
- 4:57Speaker 2: Democrat primaries.
- 4:59Speaker 1: But I don't know that that message will win on
- 5:02Speaker 1: a national level, because it's socialism. It's such a far
- 5:08Speaker 1: left turn, and it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
- 5:11Speaker 3: The surveys I've seen, the Democrat voters understand that. They're
- 5:17Speaker 3: not pro-socialists. They're a small wing of the party, the
- 5:21Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders and the Elizabeth Warren wing. They know that
- 5:26Speaker 3: socialism is bad.
- 5:28Speaker 2: But those are the people that are winning.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Look at Mondami and Bernie Sanders and the people that
- 5:36Speaker 1: they're backing all stand for that far-left agenda.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Because these are the only politicians that are addressing the
- 5:44Speaker 3: concerns of the American people.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're offering solutions, which is socialism, which doesn't work.
- 5:52Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. Listen, I don't disagree that,
- 5:55Speaker 1: economically speaking, that... Listen, I'm straightforward with you. Economically speaking,
- 6:02Speaker 1: I think we're in for difficult times ahead. I mean..
- 6:06Speaker 3: I think Democrat voters are telling... People like Mondami, if
- 6:10Speaker 3: you get elected and you start implementing socialist programs, you
- 6:15Speaker 3: are not going to get campaign contributions from us. We're
- 6:18Speaker 3: going to start voting for somebody else.
- 6:21Speaker 1: But that's his agenda. And listen, their agenda... is a
- 6:26Speaker 1: socialistic agenda, and they're back with the crazy social agenda
- 6:32Speaker 1: as well. They're right back with the men can have
- 6:35Speaker 1: babies and the transgender, all the nonsense on a social agenda.
- 6:39Speaker 1: They're right back to that, and they're right back with socialism.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I mean, under no circumstances would you ever be better off.
- 6:46Speaker 1: It's resonating with some people, but because... And I'm the
- 6:51Speaker 1: first to sit here and say to you, I don't
- 6:53Speaker 1: think economically things are looking good. I think things will
- 6:56Speaker 1: get worse, not better. And I'm straight.
- 7:01Speaker 3: What do you do if you're a Republican? The Republican
- 7:04Speaker 3: establishment agenda is a war agenda.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Well, well.
- 7:10Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do? Well, let
- 7:15Speaker 1: me put it this way. I will always vote for
- 7:19Speaker 1: the agenda that acknowledges men can't have babies. I can't
- 7:23Speaker 1: vote for the Democrats based on their social agenda. I
- 7:27Speaker 1: can't vote for them based on their socialism agenda. And
- 7:30Speaker 1: I also can't vote for the Democrats because they did
- 7:33Speaker 1: create much of this inflation before.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Trump took office. On the other hand..
- 7:40Speaker 1: Trump had things going in the right direction until he
- 7:42Speaker 1: went into this war. So I can also sit here.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Do you know how many people get upset with me
- 7:48Speaker 1: because I'm not a Trump cheerleader, that I don't support
- 7:52Speaker 1: this war situation and I'm not cheerleading Trump and they
- 7:55Speaker 1: get upset with me? Well, I think this was one
- 7:57Speaker 1: of the dumbest damn moves he could have possibly made.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Can you imagine how the economy would be, folks, if
- 8:03Speaker 1: he never went down this road when gas was $ 2. 50
- 8:05Speaker 1: a gallon, when inflation was coming down? Everything that he
- 8:10Speaker 1: accomplished went in reverse because of this war.
- 8:13Speaker 2: And it's getting worse.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And as this continues to go on and they try
- 8:17Speaker 1: to figure out how to get out of this, do
- 8:20Speaker 1: you just declare victory and leave or what do you do? Remember,
- 8:23Speaker 1: the strait was open and all this stuff. We didn't
- 8:26Speaker 1: have these problems prior to this war taking place. And
- 8:29Speaker 1: now there appears to be no end in sight, no
- 8:31Speaker 1: easy way out of this. And there appears to be
- 8:33Speaker 1: nothing but higher prices around the corner. And I think
- 8:37Speaker 1: that I don't I don't know what what.
- 8:44Speaker 3: It's just what I'd like to say to the Trump
- 8:47Speaker 3: cheerleaders that are telling us how great the economy is.
- 8:52Speaker 3: An economist wrote recently, every recovery reaches a point where
- 8:57Speaker 3: the official statistics no longer reflect realities. Politicians point to
- 9:03Speaker 3: stock market records. Economists celebrate another quarter of GDP growth.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Then you look at Main Street, where people actually creating
- 9:13Speaker 3: jobs are closing their doors. Small business bankruptcies continue to
- 9:19Speaker 3: climb at an alarming pace. Total bankruptcy filings reached more
- 9:25Speaker 3: than 310,000 for the first half of this year, a 12% increase.
- 9:32Speaker 3: And consumer bankruptcy filings also continue rising.
- 9:38Speaker 1: When you look at foreclosures, when you look at defaults
- 9:41Speaker 1: on auto loans, I'm with you. I mean, people don't
- 9:45Speaker 1: pay attention to this stuff. Defaults on auto loans, foreclosures, bankruptcies,
- 9:49Speaker 1: what you're saying, they're all on the uptick. Delinquencies on
- 9:53Speaker 1: paying credit card bills. The amount of people that are
- 9:56Speaker 1: using credit cards for their their bills you just heard
- 9:58Speaker 1: abc talking about the people that are tapping into their
- 10:01Speaker 1: savings for groceries there aren't any good economic signs that
- 10:04Speaker 1: are going on right now at all and it can
- 10:07Speaker 1: get a lot worse as far as energy if you
- 10:10Speaker 1: don't have cheap energy and it's not just oil frank
- 10:14Speaker 1: electricity up here has doubled it the cost of electricity
- 10:18Speaker 1: has doubled So you throw that into the mix, natural
- 10:23Speaker 1: gas has gone up, you have gasoline gone up. Well,
- 10:26Speaker 1: we're more and more getting away from cheap energy that's
- 10:29Speaker 1: eating up more of your income. And then with all
- 10:31Speaker 1: this other inflation, I can't see anything good going on.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I wish I could say, I think things would get
- 10:39Speaker 1: better a month from now. And I don't see that
- 10:42Speaker 1: as long as this situation goes on.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Do you?
- 10:44Speaker 3: No, and I'm with you, Ron. commercial bankruptcies increased fourteen
- 10:50Speaker 3: percent regular chapter eleven bankruptcy surged thirty seven percent right
- 10:56Speaker 3: there are like you said these numbers do not reflect
- 11:00Speaker 3: a booming economy now they describe an economy where small
- 11:04Speaker 3: business owners are struggling to stay alive.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Well, don't you remember with Biden, when they kept saying,
- 11:10Speaker 1: we don't understand why people aren't happy, that we're telling
- 11:13Speaker 1: you the numbers, everything is going great. And they didn't
- 11:16Speaker 1: understand how people weren't getting that. And I'm thinking these
- 11:20Speaker 1: people are lunatics. I mean, they're so out of touch
- 11:23Speaker 1: with reality, they don't see what's going on out here.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Well, Ron, small businesses are the backbone of a healthy economy.
- 11:31Speaker 3: in the largest job creators. Small businesses employ nearly half
- 11:36Speaker 3: the American workforce, and small businesses run on cash flows.
- 11:41Speaker 3: They can't issue stocks, bonds, or borrow money at reasonable rates,
- 11:46Speaker 3: but customers are not spending as much, struggling with record
- 11:51Speaker 3: credit card debt, like you said, Interest rates rising. Insurance
- 11:55Speaker 3: premiums are doubling. And suppliers are demanding higher prices. And
- 12:01Speaker 3: small businesses are the main leaders in technological innovation. Technological
- 12:07Speaker 3: innovation is the main driver of productivity.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Well, you take a look at just if you have
- 12:14Speaker 1: a household. Take a look at it. Shingles are made
- 12:17Speaker 1: from oil. It's an oil-based product. So if you've got
- 12:21Speaker 1: to put a new roof on, you think it hasn't
- 12:23Speaker 1: gotten more expensive because of oil? Sooner or later, you've
- 12:26Speaker 1: got to shingle your house. We talk to Bob Dieter
- 12:29Speaker 1: all the time. He tells you about all these price
- 12:31Speaker 1: increases happening on furnaces and air conditioners. Well, it's getting
- 12:35Speaker 1: to the point where people are taking loans out to
- 12:38Speaker 1: replace their furnace or their air conditioner, taking loans out
- 12:41Speaker 1: to re-roof their house. I mean, is it just the
- 12:44Speaker 1: basic maintenance stuff or delaying it altogether? It only gets worse.
- 12:48Speaker 1: And then you throw in, like you said, insurance and groceries.
- 12:52Speaker 1: And then if you get gasoline prices or diesel prices
- 12:55Speaker 1: ticking up or the fuel for jets ticking up, There's
- 13:00Speaker 1: nothing good going on. I mean, there's just nothing good.
- 13:05Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to sit here and say Trump's got
- 13:07Speaker 1: everything under control? Trump's a genius on this stuff?
- 13:11Speaker 5: No.
- 13:12Speaker 1: No, this is a mess right now. I'm not going
- 13:15Speaker 1: to be like the Democrats and say, oh, things are
- 13:17Speaker 1: going great. They're not going great. Economically, a lot of
- 13:21Speaker 1: stuff is getting worse, not better, because of the decision
- 13:24Speaker 1: he made.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Well, Ron, I'm going to wrap it up by saying...
- 13:29Speaker 3: SpaceX's stock falls to a new low. Micron and other
- 13:34Speaker 3: chip stocks fall as China steals the spotlight.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Listen to this.
- 13:39Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Frank. Here's what I was expecting
- 13:41Speaker 2: you to say.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Okay.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I expected you to say, Ron, I'm going to wrap
- 13:45Speaker 1: it up by saying this. What's that, Frank? I love you, Ron.
- 13:52Speaker 2: All right. See you, Frank.
- 13:55Speaker 6: Okay.
- 13:55Speaker 5: Bye now.
- 13:56Speaker 2: You're on the air.
- 13:56Speaker 7: Bye, Ron.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Uh-oh, it's J.J. I'm sorry, it's J.J. the Trumpster.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Geez, his call always comes after I'm being critical of Trump.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Now that he's got that psychological adjustment, he's no longer J.J.
- 14:10Speaker 2: The liberal, he's J.J.
- 14:11Speaker 1: The Trumpster, and I just got done saying some negative
- 14:13Speaker 1: things about Trump, and now you're on the line.
- 14:15Speaker 4: P-R-U-M-P, Trump, Trump, Trump. I'm a cheerleader for him now.
- 14:20Speaker 2: You're on the Trump train?
- 14:21Speaker 4: Yeah, Trump train, Trump train. No, it's just, I wanted to,
- 14:25Speaker 4: it was kind of curious, I was listening to you
- 14:27Speaker 4: talk to, I'm going to take a few moments, because
- 14:28Speaker 4: I remember that last Friday, that young lady that calls
- 14:31Speaker 4: in all the time was complaining about us all being
- 14:33Speaker 4: on the phone for too long.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Don't worry about her.
- 14:35Speaker 4: No, no, no, I wasn't worried about her, I thought
- 14:37Speaker 4: she was, she's actually very entertaining when she calls in,
- 14:39Speaker 4: but I kind of wondered, when she was waiting on
- 14:42Speaker 4: the phone for like an hour, I've waited on the
- 14:43Speaker 4: phone for an hour now, the thing is, when she
- 14:45Speaker 4: had the opportunity to talk about anything that she wanted to,
- 14:47Speaker 4: she talked about us being on the phone for too long.
- 14:50Speaker 7: You get what I mean?
- 14:51Speaker 4: So I was like, well, tell me what you want
- 14:54Speaker 4: to talk about. I want to hear her. But she
- 14:56Speaker 4: was just talking about us being on the phone for
- 14:57Speaker 4: a while. I just thought it was kind of, you know,
- 14:59Speaker 4: you kind of step outside of something and look at
- 15:01Speaker 4: it and go. But I understand her point, and I'm
- 15:03Speaker 4: going to try to make it quick. But the thing
- 15:05Speaker 4: is that I understand I've never been a supporter or
- 15:08Speaker 4: a big supporter. You know, about the transgender and gay
- 15:11Speaker 4: and lesbian and this and that. You know how I
- 15:14Speaker 4: feel about it. I believe that they have the right
- 15:16Speaker 4: to walk down the street and to have their day
- 15:19Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. I'm not going to..
- 15:22Speaker 2: Stand by. Right, stand by. I'm coming back with J.J.
- 15:25Speaker 2: the Trumpster. In a minute, News Radio 570 WKBN 422
- 15:27Speaker 2: in the afternoon. All right. Wake up, Ron. Pay attention.
- 15:55Speaker 2: All right. So go ahead, JJ.
- 15:58Speaker 4: I just– I would march for them to have the
- 16:03Speaker 4: right to be able to speak their minds, but I'm
- 16:05Speaker 4: not going to walk down the street holding a flag.
- 16:07Speaker 4: So that's how I stand with that kind of stuff.
- 16:09Speaker 4: But we're concentrating on things that– social agendas, which are very–
- 16:14Speaker 4: They're a very, very small thing compared to, like you
- 16:16Speaker 4: were stating at the end there, that cost of living,
- 16:19Speaker 4: the food prices and gas and just overall things. And
- 16:23Speaker 4: I believe the only way, and now everybody's going to
- 16:25Speaker 4: get very mad at me, and I don't know why
- 16:27Speaker 4: I'm saying this because I'm a Trump supporter. I think
- 16:30Speaker 4: the only way for us to actually end this war
- 16:32Speaker 4: is if Trump no longer is in charge. And only
- 16:35Speaker 4: for the simple reason is this, is that I think
- 16:37Speaker 4: the damage has been done as far as not just
- 16:40Speaker 4: him dealing with Trump, but Trump dealing with them. It's
- 16:42Speaker 4: almost like you need a fresh kind of fresh face,
- 16:45Speaker 4: you know, actually speaking for whether I think like you
- 16:48Speaker 4: said earlier, I think someone like DeSantis might be a
- 16:51Speaker 4: kind of a person that I would look into a
- 16:53Speaker 4: little bit more of his policies. I would even think
- 16:55Speaker 4: about voting for him if he was going to still
- 16:57Speaker 4: continue to work toward Things that I'm I feel strongly about.
- 17:01Speaker 4: So I naturally don't have to be a Democrat, but
- 17:04Speaker 4: I really believe that maybe we need something, a big
- 17:07Speaker 4: change like that. And it's and again, it's not ousting Trump,
- 17:10Speaker 4: so to speak, but somebody who can.
- 17:12Speaker 2: You're talking about you're talking about the next election. I
- 17:15Speaker 2: get what you're saying.
- 17:16Speaker 4: Well, not even just that. Not even just that. You know,
- 17:18Speaker 4: he's the governor of Florida, but really, like you were
- 17:22Speaker 4: even saying, and I've said it to you before also, that,
- 17:25Speaker 4: you know, to continue to do the same thing time
- 17:27Speaker 4: after time and expecting a different outcome is futile. And
- 17:30Speaker 4: so I think that maybe we put a different face
- 17:33Speaker 4: on the whole, the war itself. and have somebody on
- 17:36Speaker 4: their side that thinks that they can actually maybe deal
- 17:39Speaker 4: with somebody who's not going to be on the social
- 17:42Speaker 4: media all the time and is not going to speak
- 17:45Speaker 4: before things are even finalized. That's the only thing I'm
- 17:49Speaker 4: thinking of. The only common denominator is Trump.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Well, here's the shocker, though. Here's the shocker.
- 17:55Speaker 1: I hope that I'm wrong and Trump is right. I
- 18:00Speaker 1: sincerely hope that he's done this bombing and he's paused
- 18:03Speaker 1: it and he's... and there's talks that are going on
- 18:07Speaker 1: because they're sick of being bombed or their back is
- 18:09Speaker 1: to a corner and they can reach some type of agreement,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I hope that happens. I will applaud it if that happens,
- 18:16Speaker 1: if he's successful and that is the case. But if
- 18:20Speaker 1: that isn't the case... then tell me what's the next move.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I mean, if that doesn't happen, and I hope that happens,
- 18:28Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, and I'd be relieved to see
- 18:31Speaker 1: that happen. But if it doesn't, now what do you do?
- 18:34Speaker 1: Because what's the way out of this mess? Because he
- 18:37Speaker 1: started it. People get upset with me, but he's the one,
- 18:41Speaker 1: based on Netanyahu and Israel, but he's the one that
- 18:43Speaker 1: made the decision to engage in this. There wasn't a
- 18:46Speaker 1: vote of Congress or anything like that. He took this on. Now,
- 18:50Speaker 1: how do you get out of this mess? And if
- 18:53Speaker 1: you don't get out of it, what do you do
- 18:55Speaker 1: when you hit tank bottom? What do you do when
- 18:57Speaker 1: oil prices very easily could go or gas could go
- 19:00Speaker 1: from $ 4 to $ 5 or more because of the situation
- 19:05Speaker 1: we're in? There isn't a way that you don't take
- 19:08Speaker 1: 30 million barrels off the market of oil. You got
- 19:13Speaker 1: some that you lost with Russia now because of Russia
- 19:16Speaker 1: and Ukraine. You got 20 million because of the situation
- 19:20Speaker 1: we're in.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Going on as far as Iran is concerned.
- 19:24Speaker 1: But even if you say, oh, it's not 30 million,
- 19:27Speaker 1: let's say it's 25 million or whatever.
- 19:29Speaker 2: How do you a day? How do you how do you.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Function when you take that amount of oil out of
- 19:33Speaker 1: the system? Because I know supply and demand means prices
- 19:37Speaker 1: go up because supply, you know, the supply can't keep up.
- 19:40Speaker 2: With the demand. And that's the reality. And that's where
- 19:43Speaker 2: we are right now.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Right, and then also you have to think about our weaponry.
- 19:49Speaker 4: We're getting low on our weaponry, and I don't even
- 19:50Speaker 4: like to hear that because that gives them some ideas. Again,
- 19:53Speaker 4: I don't know how the truth of that is, but again,
- 19:55Speaker 4: if we're shooting things and doing things that aren't necessary,
- 19:59Speaker 4: then that's kind of scary in itself. But you're right.
- 20:02Speaker 4: I always say, when is enough enough? What's the exit strategy?
- 20:14Speaker 1: I mean, what's the game plan if you bomb them
- 20:17Speaker 1: and now it doesn't work this time? Now you go
- 20:19Speaker 1: back to bombing them. Okay, listen, I hope it brings
- 20:23Speaker 1: the agreement you want. But if it doesn't, what do
- 20:26Speaker 1: you do? How do you get out of the mess
- 20:28Speaker 1: that you started without destroying the economy, not just of
- 20:32Speaker 1: this country, in large parts of the world?
- 20:35Speaker 2: There are things that you can.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Have deep recessions and depressions. You can have stock markets
- 20:41Speaker 1: that go down and take years to come back up.
- 20:45Speaker 1: You can have oil prices that can go up in
- 20:47Speaker 1: a blink of an eye very quickly, 50 cents a
- 20:49Speaker 1: gallon or more, because of demand and lack of oil.
- 20:53Speaker 2: It's just, there's nothing good about this.
- 20:55Speaker 4: I want him to succeed, too, because if I'm sitting
- 20:57Speaker 4: here saying, well, I don't want him to succeed so
- 20:59Speaker 4: we can win the election in November, that's foolish. I
- 21:04Speaker 4: would rather have him in for another two and a half,
- 21:06Speaker 4: three years and deal with him and myself and have
- 21:10Speaker 4: him be successful because him doing those things and we
- 21:13Speaker 4: all become successful. So I can't leave an eagle at
- 21:16Speaker 4: the door.
- 21:21Speaker 5: The man police say shot and killed North Royalton Building
- 21:24Speaker 5: Commissioner David Smarek last Friday made his first court appearance today.
- 21:28Speaker 5: 69-year-old Edward Beseda is facing a first-degree felony charge of murder.
- 21:34Speaker 5: The complaint states that on or about July 24, 2026,
- 21:37Speaker 5: within the city of North Royalton, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, you
- 21:42Speaker 5: did purposely cause the death of another. Parma Municipal Court
- 21:45Speaker 5: Judge Deanna O'Donnell set bond at $ 15 million and the
- 21:48Speaker 5: case was bound over. to Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.
- 21:52Speaker 5: Beseda is accused of shooting Smarek three times inside the
- 21:57Speaker 5: North Royalton City Services building, leaving the gun on the
- 22:01Speaker 5: counter and walking outside. where he was taken into custody.
- 22:04Speaker 5: Latest on gas prices in Ohio, AAA says we're at
- 22:07Speaker 5: $ 3. 88 a gallon on average for regular grade statewide, down
- 22:12Speaker 5: just a tiny amount from yesterday.
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- 22:31Speaker 1: 434, it's a Monday afternoon, July 27th. It's 86 degrees.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Ron Furb on News Radio 570, WKBN. I think, I
- 22:41Speaker 1: want to just check something. I think we'll be here
- 22:43Speaker 1: tonight until maybe 630. Let me see, boys and girls.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Just to play it safe. Now I'm going to be
- 22:57Speaker 1: here until 6. Till 6 o'clock. All right, on News
- 23:02Speaker 1: Radio 570, WKBN.
- 23:06Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello there.
- 23:08Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the game starts at 6.05 or something, Ron.
- 23:11Speaker 2: No, no, 6.30 is the pregame.
- 23:13Speaker 6: Hey, listen, Ron, you had a caller a couple, this
- 23:15Speaker 6: is about property tax issue. You had a caller a
- 23:17Speaker 6: couple months ago talking to you, and you were all
- 23:20Speaker 6: just talking about all taxes, property taxes, and real quick
- 23:23Speaker 6: he's saying, you know, how it takes in over $ 100
- 23:25Speaker 6: billion and pays off this much. And that caught my attention.
- 23:28Speaker 6: I said, you know, I'm going to find out about that.
- 23:30Speaker 6: I really want to find out about this because I'm
- 23:33Speaker 6: going down one road and looking at all these houses.
- 23:35Speaker 6: I'm going down, man, there's a lot of houses, okay?
- 23:38Speaker 6: So what I did, Ron, is I, with the help
- 23:40Speaker 6: of my daughter, went up to every county, all 88
- 23:45Speaker 6: counties in the state of Ohio. And it took a while,
- 23:49Speaker 6: but what I found out is what each county takes
- 23:54Speaker 6: in in property tax. I found that out. Then we
- 23:58Speaker 6: went and seen how much each county, that same county,
- 24:01Speaker 6: pays out in property tax. Firemen, police, ambulance, you know,
- 24:07Speaker 6: schools and all that. And that gentleman you had on
- 24:10Speaker 6: a couple months ago, it was said real quick, and
- 24:14Speaker 6: it just caught my attention. And here's what I got,
- 24:16Speaker 6: and he wasn't wrong. The state of Ohio takes in
- 24:20Speaker 6: over $ 100 billion in property tax. And they pay out
- 24:25Speaker 6: a little over $ 20 billion in property tax. Now, you
- 24:30Speaker 6: can have people call up and say I'm wrong. I mean,
- 24:32Speaker 6: but this is what I got. This is what that
- 24:34Speaker 6: gentleman called up and said. And it just blew my mind.
- 24:42Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me. I would question those
- 24:44Speaker 1: numbers because property taxes, for the most part, property taxes
- 24:50Speaker 1: are local. All right, so they go to your school system,
- 24:53Speaker 1: your police department, your fire department. They stay local. So
- 24:59Speaker 1: it's dispersed out to the entities. I mean, I would
- 25:04Speaker 1: question that number. Here's the number I would be interested in.
- 25:07Speaker 1: How much did we take in in property taxes 10
- 25:10Speaker 1: years ago? OK, I mean, how much and I'm just
- 25:16Speaker 1: interested in like, let's just say Mahoney County where I reside.
- 25:21Speaker 1: How much should we take in 10 years ago in
- 25:23Speaker 1: property taxes? How much did we take in seven years
- 25:26Speaker 1: ago in property taxes? And then and then I want
- 25:30Speaker 1: to see once we had that initial big reappraisal spike.
- 25:35Speaker 1: The year before that, how much did we take in
- 25:37Speaker 1: in property taxes? After that huge spike, the first one,
- 25:41Speaker 1: how much were we taking in the next year? And
- 25:46Speaker 1: then I want to see after this latest reevaluations.
- 25:51Speaker 2: How much we're going to take in now.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Those are the numbers that are going to be interesting
- 25:54Speaker 1: because it's like how much did it increase from one
- 25:57Speaker 1: year before the reappraisals, the first reappraisal to the following year?
- 26:02Speaker 1: What was the increase as far as revenue taken in
- 26:05Speaker 1: in property taxes? And that might be eye-opening because– That's
- 26:10Speaker 1: the number I want to know.
- 26:11Speaker 2: And I'm going to find that number out. You just gave.
- 26:13Speaker 6: Me something else to work on because I agree with you.
- 26:16Speaker 6: That would be a good finding right there.
- 26:19Speaker 1: I'm going to actually call Meacham and ask him. I
- 26:23Speaker 1: want to know, in Mahoning County, what was that number
- 26:26Speaker 1: before the first giant reappraisal? How much were we taking
- 26:30Speaker 1: in in property taxes a year? And after the reappraisal,
- 26:33Speaker 1: how much were we taking in?
- 26:35Speaker 2: And then..
- 26:37Speaker 1: This next one, how much more we'll be taking in?
- 26:40Speaker 1: Because I think we're taking in a substantially larger amount
- 26:43Speaker 1: of money after that reappraisal.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Without a doubt.
- 26:47Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, we're spending it all. All
- 26:49Speaker 2: of a sudden.
- 26:50Speaker 1: I mean, something about it doesn't make sense. And I'm
- 26:53Speaker 1: not saying that fire trucks don't cost more. Police cars
- 26:55Speaker 1: don't cost more. Benefits and employees don't cost more. But
- 26:59Speaker 1: outside of that, where's the rest of it going?
- 27:03Speaker 6: Exactly right, Ron. Okay, well, that's why I would like
- 27:06Speaker 6: you to find out that number.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I'm going to do that.
- 27:09Speaker 6: We're talking about everything being more expensive, people losing their
- 27:12Speaker 6: houses and everything, and I agree with that. But when
- 27:15Speaker 6: you go past the Racino over the weekend, you can't
- 27:17Speaker 6: find a parking space.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Isn't that something?
- 27:19Speaker 6: Have a good day.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Thank you. Isn't that something? I mean, make no mistake.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of people still out and about
- 27:26Speaker 1: all the time. But see, you usually don't see people
- 27:31Speaker 1: that are struggling. So it's... I'm just in touch with it.
- 27:44Speaker 1: There's just no way that you can't be paying twice
- 27:46Speaker 1: as much for your electric bill.
- 27:48Speaker 5: $ 4 for a gallon of gas.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Your insurance has gone up. Your groceries have gone up.
- 27:56Speaker 1: The necessities of life have gone up. And you're in
- 28:01Speaker 1: a good spot when your wages have not kept pace
- 28:05Speaker 1: with that inflation and your savings have declined.
- 28:08Speaker 2: I don't care who you are.
- 28:10Speaker 1: There's just no way that that's a good economic scenario
- 28:14Speaker 1: for the lower middle class, the middle middle class, and
- 28:19Speaker 1: even the upper middle class. It's just not a good scenario.
- 28:24Speaker 2: You're on the air.
- 28:27Speaker 7: Yeah, hi, Ron.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Hello.
- 28:29Speaker 7: It's me. So I had a couple of points that
- 28:33Speaker 7: I wanted to make, and one of the things was
- 28:35Speaker 7: about Nick Foreman I thought you might find interesting. But
- 28:39Speaker 7: in the meantime, with listening to everybody else, I would
- 28:43Speaker 7: love it if you would sometimes ask Frank, because he
- 28:47Speaker 7: does sound like a very intelligent guy, and also he
- 28:52Speaker 7: seems to have done pretty well under capitalism.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Yes.
- 28:55Speaker 7: I would love to know his opinion. of the democratic
- 28:58Speaker 7: socialism stuff.
- 29:01Speaker 1: I think his goal today was just to explain it
- 29:03Speaker 1: and why people are going in that direction. I will
- 29:05Speaker 1: ask him about that. I suspect he's not a fan
- 29:08Speaker 1: of it, just based on capitalism. But here's my point
- 29:12Speaker 1: with that. I don't think it does any good to say,
- 29:16Speaker 1: to attack the people that are voting that way. I
- 29:18Speaker 1: think you better figure out why they're voting that way.
- 29:21Speaker 1: And I think many of these younger people feel that
- 29:23Speaker 1: the system has... has failed them. And to a certain extent,
- 29:29Speaker 1: I understand what they're saying. They're saying, hey, wait, we're
- 29:33Speaker 1: doing things and we're working, but we can't afford to
- 29:35Speaker 1: buy a home or rents are too high. Health care
- 29:38Speaker 1: is too high. automobiles cost too much i mean look
- 29:43Speaker 1: at the world that they're getting versus the world you
- 29:46Speaker 1: had when you were their age and i understand i
- 29:48Speaker 1: understand why they're pissed in their outrage based on this
- 29:51Speaker 1: inflation i.
- 29:53Speaker 7: Get it well you know i mean I get it, too.
- 29:59Speaker 7: Interest rates were 17% when we bought our second house.
- 30:06Speaker 7: Not even 6%. We'd have given anything to have 6%.
- 30:10Speaker 7: But anyhow.
- 30:11Speaker 1: But wait a minute. You're talking to Carter years. And
- 30:16Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, and listen, I was around at that time,
- 30:18Speaker 1: and you're right, we were happy to get a 6%
- 30:19Speaker 1: interest rate. I refinanced to get one. But that changed
- 30:24Speaker 1: with Reagan.
- 30:25Speaker 5: And gasoline.
- 30:27Speaker 7: And gasoline, depending upon whether we were out or even,
- 30:31Speaker 7: every other day we could get gasoline.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
- 30:34Speaker 7: Not just any time we wanted to pull up. I mean,
- 30:37Speaker 7: we've kind of. We've kind of been through, but, you know,
- 30:40Speaker 7: I don't recall people complaining.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Oh, no, they were complaining.
- 30:43Speaker 7: It probably wasn't great, but..
- 30:45Speaker 2: No, they were complaining. I remember they were complaining. But
- 30:49Speaker 2: here's the rub on that.
- 30:51Speaker 1: You would agree, based outside of those Carter years, and
- 30:54Speaker 1: Reagan fixed that with a big recession that happened, too.
- 30:59Speaker 1: But you would agree that, for the most part, during
- 31:01Speaker 1: your lifetime... Because I was alive, too. You didn't pay
- 31:05Speaker 1: much attention to inflation because it wasn't that noticeable. Inflation
- 31:10Speaker 1: was usually 1% or 1.5%.
- 31:13Speaker 2: It wasn't very big.
- 31:15Speaker 1: So it wasn't that noticeable until it became that way
- 31:18Speaker 1: as a result of COVID and the Biden policies. And
- 31:23Speaker 1: now this war with Trump. Now inflation is double digits higher.
- 31:28Speaker 1: And now it's very noticeable because of how much everything
- 31:31Speaker 1: is costing. It wasn't that way before COVID and Biden
- 31:37Speaker 1: and Trump.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 31:39Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing, though. What I do remember, because
- 31:42Speaker 7: I was old enough to kind of understand, is when
- 31:46Speaker 7: they used to calculate inflation, they included food. They included
- 31:53Speaker 7: everything they don't include anymore.
- 31:55Speaker 2: That's true.
- 31:55Speaker 6: Right.
- 31:56Speaker 7: They used to include that, so if it was 5%,
- 31:59Speaker 7: it was 5% across the board. Now, then they quit
- 32:03Speaker 7: including it, so it looked like inflation went down, but
- 32:08Speaker 7: it really didn't. They just didn't include everything they included before.
- 32:13Speaker 7: So it's been kind of a screwed-up measurement. I mean,
- 32:19Speaker 7: we can see it in the grocery store and everything.
- 32:22Speaker 1: It's not an accurate measurement is what you're saying. And incidentally,
- 32:25Speaker 1: you reminded me of something else. It's just like the
- 32:27Speaker 1: unemployment statistics. Once you were done collecting unemployment, you vanished.
- 32:32Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you were employed. You just were no
- 32:34Speaker 1: longer counted. So those numbers were inaccurate, too. They never
- 32:38Speaker 1: reflected the reality. And I would always say, how do
- 32:40Speaker 1: you fix a problem if you don't really know how
- 32:43Speaker 1: serious the problem is because you've cooked the numbers?
- 32:46Speaker 7: Well, and it's like the murder rates and the other
- 32:56Speaker 7: criminal things that seem to go down, but then Chicago
- 33:02Speaker 7: doesn't report and California doesn't report and they don't report
- 33:06Speaker 7: it or they lower it down. So, yeah, everybody cooks
- 33:10Speaker 7: the books to make their rates look better.
- 33:13Speaker 4: Well, I just..
- 33:15Speaker 7: And not to go off on that tangent, but Frank
- 33:18Speaker 7: did say something about he thought that the socialists were
- 33:24Speaker 7: gaining traction because the traditional Democrats were using money that
- 33:31Speaker 7: they were getting from donors and the socialists didn't like it.
- 33:36Speaker 7: And let me tell you, I think that's way far
- 33:38Speaker 7: from the truth because from what I hear, and I've
- 33:41Speaker 7: heard this for a while, that the traditional Democrat, the
- 33:45Speaker 7: Democratic Party is broke. I mean, they're broke. They're not getting.
- 33:51Speaker 6: The donors.
- 33:52Speaker 7: They don't want to take a chance because they got
- 33:54Speaker 7: burned with Kamala. They're not getting the USAID kickbacks that.
- 34:00Speaker 4: They used to get.
- 34:02Speaker 7: And if you recall, during the last midterms four years ago,
- 34:07Speaker 7: Sam Bankman freed the fraudster who ripped all those people
- 34:12Speaker 7: off including Tom Brady, he was donating millions to the
- 34:18Speaker 7: Democratic Party to help all of these people get elected.
- 34:24Speaker 7: So they don't have him, and they don't have USAID,
- 34:29Speaker 7: and they are hurting because they are fighting against..
- 34:34Speaker 1: You're talking about campaign contributions, and I agree with everything
- 34:38Speaker 1: that you just said. I think Frank was talking about...
- 34:42Speaker 1: lobbyist my impression was frank was talking about Here's what
- 34:47Speaker 1: I concluded. No, he's talking about lobbyists in general saying
- 34:52Speaker 1: that you can't tell much of a difference between Democrats
- 34:55Speaker 1: and Republicans because they take all this money from lobbyists
- 34:59Speaker 1: and they don't often represent Joe Bag of Donuts. They're
- 35:02Speaker 1: representing special interests and a lot of people are getting
- 35:04Speaker 1: fed up with that. I think that was the gist
- 35:07Speaker 1: of what he was saying. He was talking about all
- 35:10Speaker 1: the lobbyist money that's coming in and they get represented
- 35:13Speaker 1: and the people are forgotten. And I think that's a
- 35:16Speaker 1: legitimate point. Both Republicans and Democrats, he's saying.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Right.
- 35:22Speaker 7: And they may not be getting the grassroots money because
- 35:26Speaker 7: there's a lot of their, you know, their donors, like
- 35:34Speaker 7: I said, aren't paying or they too have problems.
- 35:40Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
- 35:41Speaker 7: That all aside, this is going to be interesting to
- 35:43Speaker 7: you since you just started on that formant. Okay, my
- 35:46Speaker 7: mother was in her 80s. Well, she developed probably in her,
- 35:50Speaker 7: I don't know, late 60s or 70s, diabetes. Not a
- 35:54Speaker 7: big shock because her mom..
- 35:56Speaker 1: Well, I just want to emphasize something. I don't have
- 35:58Speaker 1: diabetes at all. They just want to.
- 36:00Speaker 6: Bring down my number.
- 36:02Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying, but she did. I could tell,
- 36:07Speaker 7: you know, she did, and so her mother did. But
- 36:09Speaker 7: she used to take metformin. Okay, she was one of
- 36:13Speaker 7: nine children. And it was very interesting to me because,
- 36:20Speaker 7: as we're talking about and I'm asking, I mean, she
- 36:22Speaker 7: was always really on top of things. Never signs of
- 36:27Speaker 7: dementia or anything. And the same with her sister, which
- 36:30Speaker 7: was two years younger, who learned the computer thing and emails.
- 36:36Speaker 7: And she still is very on top of things. She's
- 36:39Speaker 7: in her 90s.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Gotcha.
- 36:40Speaker 7: But then she had her oldest sister... who developed dementia
- 36:45Speaker 7: and went downhill pretty fast. And so I asked her,
- 36:50Speaker 7: I said, was Aunt Helen a diabetic? Okay, because we
- 36:55Speaker 7: just went straight to that. And she said, no, she
- 36:59Speaker 7: didn't take anything. And I said, and the other, well,
- 37:02Speaker 7: what about Aunt Annie? Because she developed dementia, went downhill
- 37:07Speaker 7: pretty fast, died with dementia. And she said, no, she
- 37:10Speaker 7: wasn't either. I go, well, what about Uncle Johnny who
- 37:14Speaker 7: lived to be 90?
- 37:15Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, he was diabetic.
- 37:17Speaker 7: So he was taking that. I said, what about Uncle Andy?
- 37:21Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, he was diabetic.
- 37:23Speaker 7: Interesting. All the ones that were diabetic and taking some
- 37:27Speaker 7: kind of medication for it or on the edge or whatever,
- 37:31Speaker 7: none of them developed dementia. The ones that were taking
- 37:36Speaker 7: it did. Isn't that interesting? So you've got all of these.
- 37:42Speaker 7: So I was on this little quest then when I
- 37:45Speaker 7: would meet up with somebody who I would talk to, like,
- 37:48Speaker 7: I used to, in Pennsylvania, I used to live where
- 37:54Speaker 7: there were a lot of retirement homes and that. And
- 37:57Speaker 7: I was always getting stuff off shelves for old people.
- 38:00Speaker 7: And you get, they start talking to you and everything.
- 38:03Speaker 7: And if they were really on top of things and
- 38:05Speaker 7: really with it, I would say, can I ask you
- 38:07Speaker 7: a personal question?
- 38:09Speaker 4: Are you a diabetic?
- 38:11Speaker 7: And they would say, oh, I'm type 2. I started
- 38:14Speaker 7: taking meds. I saw people that I met that I'd
- 38:18Speaker 7: known for like 30, 40 years who were in their 80s,
- 38:22Speaker 7: and they were still on top of it. I said, Kenny,
- 38:25Speaker 7: are you a diabetic? And he goes, oh, type 2.
- 38:28Speaker 7: I started taking meds about 10 years ago. Everybody that
- 38:32Speaker 7: I asked who seemed to be an 80-year-old or whatever,
- 38:38Speaker 7: on top of their game, I asked them, and they
- 38:41Speaker 7: were all taking some kind of medication like that. So
- 38:48Speaker 7: I watched. I thought, well, that's real interesting because I
- 38:51Speaker 7: had a mother-in-law who developed dementia, and she, I mean,
- 38:54Speaker 7: really severe dementia, was not diagnosed or given medicine before.
- 39:02Speaker 7: giving medicine for others but not for diabetes. And she
- 39:08Speaker 7: was pretty bad off. But one day I was watching Dr. Oz,
- 39:13Speaker 7: and he had a guy on who was doing these studies.
- 39:17Speaker 7: And what he said on that made so much sense.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Make it quick.
- 39:22Speaker 7: Because, you know, they always– I'm sorry?
- 39:24Speaker 2: You've got to go quick here. I've got 30 seconds
- 39:26Speaker 2: before my break.
- 39:27Speaker 7: They always talk about the plaque in your brain. that
- 39:30Speaker 7: clears out at night. Well, the same enzyme that clears
- 39:33Speaker 7: the plaque helps regulate your sugar and your insulin. So
- 39:37Speaker 7: if it's busy doing that, it's not clearing out the plaque.
- 39:41Speaker 7: So if you take metformin to help keep your insulin
- 39:45Speaker 7: and your sugar good, then it's not the opportunity to
- 39:49Speaker 7: clear out the plaque.
- 39:50Speaker 4: Ta-da!
- 39:51Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 39:51Speaker 4: You did it.
- 39:52Speaker 7: I'm not a doctor, but I am a thinker.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Thank you, thinker. Back after this. Bye. Your one stop
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- 40:07Speaker 2: It's a Monday afternoon.
- 40:08Speaker 1: On News Radio 570-WKBN, and Ron Verb from the Kingdom
- 40:11Speaker 1: of Mahoning here at 455, 86 degrees, and you're.
- 40:13Speaker 3: On the air.
- 40:17Speaker 8: Yes, good afternoon, Ron.
- 40:18Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 40:19Speaker 8: I'm calling from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania area.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 40:22Speaker 8: So I just want to let you know real quick.
- 40:24Speaker 8: So I'm a big Trump supporter. During the campaign last
- 40:28Speaker 8: year or the year before, I would have signs in
- 40:31Speaker 8: my yard, on my car, about making America affordable again.
- 40:36Speaker 8: And in highly democratic areas, I would be driving through.
- 40:39Speaker 8: And now I'm embarrassed that that's not coming true. I mean,
- 40:44Speaker 8: I'm embarrassed to be talking to my neighbors.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Well, now hold the phone. We'll tap the brakes because
- 40:53Speaker 1: you have nothing to be embarrassed about. And let me
- 40:55Speaker 1: tell you why for a second. As critical as I
- 40:58Speaker 1: can be a Trump of this particular situation in Iran.
- 41:01Speaker 2: OK, for one second, I don't.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Think that I would have been better off if I
- 41:07Speaker 1: voted for Kamala Harris or if Joe Biden was a candidate.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Make no mistake.
- 41:13Speaker 1: They would have been a horrible choice. So I'm comfortable
- 41:17Speaker 1: with my vote for Trump. I voted for him every
- 41:19Speaker 1: time I could. I'm comfortable with my vote for Trump.
- 41:22Speaker 1: In general, I like a lot of what he's done.
- 41:24Speaker 1: This war is a disaster. And it's in my opinion.
- 41:30Speaker 1: I mean, I could be wrong. but I think he was,
- 41:35Speaker 1: as I said, bamboozled into it by Israel and by Netanyahu,
- 41:39Speaker 1: and I don't know how you get out of this,
- 41:40Speaker 1: and I think it's going to create some major problems.
- 41:44Speaker 1: So I think it's a big mistake, a big mistake,
- 41:48Speaker 1: but those are my choices, and I don't regret the
- 41:52Speaker 1: guy that I voted for. So don't apologize to your
- 41:55Speaker 1: neighbors about anything. Just say, you know, just stay the... Maybe...
- 42:01Speaker 1: Who knows what would happen here? I'm very concerned about
- 42:04Speaker 1: the economy, but hopefully I'm wrong and he's right.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Hopefully.
- 42:10Speaker 3: Hopefully.
- 42:10Speaker 8: I hope things turn around. But unfortunately, you know, we
- 42:13Speaker 8: talk about Democrats' Medicare fraud or Medicare fraud. I'm sorry,
- 42:17Speaker 8: but this war is huge fraud. It's a huge taxpayer
- 42:20Speaker 8: fraud on all Americans.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Well, it's costing us a fortune that we can't really
- 42:25Speaker 1: afford right now. And the inflation is just, it's astronomical.
- 42:29Speaker 1: But I can't sit here as a Trump voter. I
- 42:33Speaker 1: can't be like these people that are cheerleaders. I got
- 42:35Speaker 1: to say, I don't agree with– I'm very deeply concerned
- 42:38Speaker 1: where things are going. And a lot of people think, oh,
- 42:40Speaker 1: if you vote for Trump, you should support everything and
- 42:42Speaker 1: everything you should do. You should check your brain at
- 42:44Speaker 1: the door. I'm not about to do that. I can still–
- 42:47Speaker 1: I wouldn't vote for Harris. But I think Trump made
- 42:49Speaker 1: a huge mistake here. And I think it was a mistake.
- 42:54Speaker 2: Now, how do you get out of it? Yeah, me too.
- 42:58Speaker 1: Thanks, man. Don't– The alternative, if you think voting for
- 43:04Speaker 1: Harris would have been better, it wouldn't have been. That
- 43:06Speaker 1: would have been a total disaster. But I mean, obviously this...
- 43:12Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you get out of this situation?
- 43:15Speaker 1: I mean, did he make things better or worse? He
- 43:17Speaker 1: made it worse. We didn't have these problems in the Strait.
- 43:19Speaker 1: The Strait was open. We weren't talking about fees and
- 43:22Speaker 1: all this kind of nonsense. Now, how do you solve
- 43:25Speaker 1: this problem? Well..
- 43:27Speaker 2: We shall see.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Ron Perp, NewsRadio 570, WKBN, back in a bit.
- 43:33Speaker 2: Here's a harsh fact.