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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people, John Middlecoff
- 0:18Speaker 1: three Now Podcast, Happy Sweet sixteen, Let's go Arkansas and
- 0:23Speaker 1: the Johnnies. I'll actually pick my final four a little
- 0:25Speaker 1: bit later, but we got a busy, busy show cause
- 0:29Speaker 1: I need to dive in on the Australian Game, which
- 0:32Speaker 1: is kicking off at ten thirty am on Friday in
- 0:35Speaker 1: Australia for the Niners in the rams A take with
- 0:39Speaker 1: college sports that is driving me nuts. I want to
- 0:41Speaker 1: dive into Pooka Nakua feels like the guy's kind of life.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Set a fork in the road, Ty Simpson. That argument
- 0:49Speaker 1: just continues. There's video of my homes. We will we'll
- 0:54Speaker 1: do a little change of scenery today and when with
- 0:58Speaker 1: a couple of mail bag questions at John Middlecoffe as
- 1:01Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those dms. So yeah, that'll kind
- 1:04Speaker 1: of do. We got a lot going on. I'm fired
- 1:06Speaker 1: up for today's show. You guys know the drill. If
- 1:08Speaker 1: you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe to
- 1:10Speaker 1: three and out. If all of our video, all of
- 1:15Speaker 1: our video up on Netflix, go check that out. I'm
- 1:19Speaker 1: actually recording this before the Giants Yankees, which is also
- 1:23Speaker 1: on Netflix. It's weird. I mean, I grew up a
- 1:26Speaker 1: diehard Giants fan, but I kind of enjoy the Yankees
- 1:29Speaker 1: in a weird way because I don't think the Giants
- 1:31Speaker 1: are gonna be any good. I'm gonna roof for the
- 1:32Speaker 1: Yankees this year, maybe not tonight, but I'm excited for
- 1:37Speaker 1: a little regular season baseball on in the background. But
- 1:40Speaker 1: let's dive into some football. I do want to start
- 1:43Speaker 1: with the news that because of the dates and their
- 1:47Speaker 1: rules with high school football, that the NFL can't play
- 1:51Speaker 1: on Friday during a certain stretch of the year, and
- 1:55Speaker 1: because this year the first week falls under that that
- 2:00Speaker 1: that time frame, they were not gonna be able to
- 2:03Speaker 1: play on Friday. So they're pushing Seattle, which the defending
- 2:07Speaker 1: champs always host the opening game on Wednesday. Because the
- 2:12Speaker 1: forty nine ers in Rams, which we've been talking about
- 2:15Speaker 1: are you know, it's well I mean well known now,
- 2:17Speaker 1: are playing in Australia and because of the flight, you know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: it's gonna take them, you know, a day and a
- 2:23Speaker 1: half to get there. They can't do it just in
- 2:26Speaker 1: a random weekend. It's got to be week one, right,
- 2:29Speaker 1: And I want to start overall, like I understand the
- 2:35Speaker 1: mindset between international football, like trying to grow in other markets,
- 2:41Speaker 1: especially when you're going to get in bed with people
- 2:45Speaker 1: like Netflix, which we love being in bed with them here,
- 2:50Speaker 1: Apple plus you know Amazon Prime, I would imagine is international.
- 2:55Speaker 1: I can't don't quote me on that one, just never tried.
- 3:00Speaker 1: But I do understand the desire to try to grow
- 3:04Speaker 1: your business. And I think these games in the UK
- 3:08Speaker 1: in Germany have set up pretty well because they could
- 3:13Speaker 1: kick them off here at nine thirty am Eastern, but
- 3:15Speaker 1: they were primetime for those guys, so when they were
- 3:19Speaker 1: playing the game, it was like playing a five o'clock or,
- 3:23Speaker 1: depending on where you were in the country, a night
- 3:25Speaker 1: game on Thursday, Sunday or Monday for the players, like
- 3:29Speaker 1: they had the rhythm to the day on game day
- 3:33Speaker 1: of playing a later game non morning or afternoon, but
- 3:37Speaker 1: the primetime window if you're playing like Sunday night football.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I think the problem with Australia, which let me say this,
- 3:45Speaker 1: it is a great sports place. They are a very
- 3:49Speaker 1: very passionate group of people when it comes to athletics.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big golf guy. Live is gone
- 3:57Speaker 1: there for a couple of years now, and it has
- 3:59Speaker 1: been a raging success. It has kind of been the
- 4:02Speaker 1: defining moment of the Saudis Tour. You know, obviously rugby
- 4:09Speaker 1: is massive there. I mean, these are people that like
- 4:12Speaker 1: a violent sport, so it makes a lot of sense.
- 4:15Speaker 1: It's obviously football is different than rugby, but like these
- 4:18Speaker 1: people like athletics, so I get it. To me, the
- 4:22Speaker 1: issue is taking two teams who are a forty five
- 4:26Speaker 1: minute flight away from each other. If you get on
- 4:30Speaker 1: a plane in Sacramento to go to Los Angeles, it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: like fifty five minutes. If you get on a plane
- 4:35Speaker 1: in San Jose, it's like a little underd forty five minutes.
- 4:38Speaker 1: You can't be any closer. There probably aren't that many
- 4:41Speaker 1: games where you have to hop on a flight in
- 4:44Speaker 1: the National Football League or in college where you're in
- 4:46Speaker 1: the air for less time than when the forty nine
- 4:49Speaker 1: ers and the Rams play each other. And you're taking
- 4:52Speaker 1: these two teams and you're taking them international, which if
- 4:55Speaker 1: you were taking them to the UK, I'd be like, okay,
- 4:58Speaker 1: but there's a seventeen hour time toiffit. And the reality
- 5:01Speaker 1: is growing this business which the NFL and specifically roge
- 5:06Speaker 1: is and I'm sure the owners are obsessed with I mean,
- 5:10Speaker 1: I mean they are just they go from six to
- 5:13Speaker 1: midnight when they think about some new fans in some
- 5:16Speaker 1: of these international markets. Yet they make all their money
- 5:19Speaker 1: here because the television window in which they build this
- 5:23Speaker 1: game around is a night game eight thirty Eastern time,
- 5:27Speaker 1: five point thirty out here on the West Coast. Here's
- 5:30Speaker 1: the problem for Kyle and Sean McVeigh. They have to
- 5:34Speaker 1: get their team ready to kick off at ten thirty
- 5:38Speaker 1: am Pacific time. So what the league has told you
- 5:41Speaker 1: is they don't give a shit about the kickoff time
- 5:45Speaker 1: for the fans in Australia. But that's not a normal
- 5:48Speaker 1: big event ten thirty am on a Friday morning. No
- 5:53Speaker 1: sport in America does that none. Now, some events that
- 5:59Speaker 1: go seven days, maybe, like a golf tournament has golf
- 6:03Speaker 1: going on on Friday, but the main event of a
- 6:06Speaker 1: golf tournament is Saturday and Sunday. No different than let's
- 6:09Speaker 1: say tennis. Right. You obviously have a bunch of tennis
- 6:12Speaker 1: matches early on in the tournament, and as you get
- 6:15Speaker 1: down to the quarters, to the semis, to the finals,
- 6:18Speaker 1: you start putting that bad boy in a primetime window.
- 6:22Speaker 1: So when the league has gone international in the UK,
- 6:25Speaker 1: in Mexico, in Germany, they have tried to situate it
- 6:30Speaker 1: in a great time slot for the people they are
- 6:33Speaker 1: attending the event, and then manipulated it over here, i e.
- 6:37Speaker 1: The early morning kickoff. The problem is the time difference
- 6:40Speaker 1: in Australia is so extreme they don't have a choice
- 6:43Speaker 1: because they would never not in a million fucking years,
- 6:48Speaker 1: kickoff rams forty nine ers at ten thirty am. In
- 6:52Speaker 1: the States, Roger would jump off the Walt Whitman Bridge
- 6:56Speaker 1: before he even I mean, he would fire any one
- 7:00Speaker 1: that broach that idea to him. But to get this
- 7:05Speaker 1: game on in prime time and play it, that's what
- 7:07Speaker 1: they have to do. Now. I get it that Kyle
- 7:09Speaker 1: and Sean coming off training camp are gonna have to
- 7:12Speaker 1: manipulate how they do things. I'm sure they go over
- 7:15Speaker 1: way early. But here's what I know that Sean McVeigh
- 7:18Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan are made men in their organizations. They
- 7:22Speaker 1: are more important. Like obviously the owner Camp is not
- 7:24Speaker 1: gonna fire himself, but they have so much juice that
- 7:28Speaker 1: they can piss off the owner and there's not much
- 7:29Speaker 1: the owners can do. They're specific owner. The owners meetings
- 7:34Speaker 1: is right around the corner here in Arizona. If I
- 7:37Speaker 1: were those two guys, who probably have the most juice
- 7:41Speaker 1: in the younger crew, I would cause a huge stink
- 7:44Speaker 1: over this. Now. I'm sure they've known about this. Maybe
- 7:47Speaker 1: it just kind of came to our attention when they've
- 7:50Speaker 1: really done the math and the time zone difference. But
- 7:52Speaker 1: these are two of the best teams in the league.
- 7:54Speaker 1: These are two of the most important coaches in the league.
- 7:57Speaker 1: These are two of the biggest brands in the league.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Nash I would be like, fuck you, this is insane.
- 8:04Speaker 1: What are we doing? We have to play Week one,
- 8:07Speaker 1: a massive, massive divisional game. I mean these games can
- 8:12Speaker 1: be the determining factor of who gets the one seed
- 8:14Speaker 1: and who gets the five seed. When the dust settles
- 8:17Speaker 1: in early January and we're kicking off in Australia at
- 8:20Speaker 1: ten thirty am Eastern, that means our players have to
- 8:24Speaker 1: get to the field at seven forty five when the
- 8:28Speaker 1: buses arrive. What are we doing here? This is a
- 8:32Speaker 1: big newon kickoff Illinois versus USC. I would be if
- 8:37Speaker 1: I were those two guys, beyond furious, and I'm sure
- 8:40Speaker 1: they have been because they've known about this with the
- 8:42Speaker 1: math much longer than it kind of came to all
- 8:46Speaker 1: of our attention when we really looked at it today.
- 8:48Speaker 1: But that's absurd, and I'm not I've come around, like
- 8:53Speaker 1: I understand it. I get you're just creating new revenue streams.
- 8:56Speaker 1: I'm all for that. We try to do that here.
- 8:59Speaker 1: We all got bills to pay, expenses grow inflation. Like,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I'm not shitting on them for having these new ideas, right,
- 9:06Speaker 1: Like I expansion in the NBA, You're like, listen, the
- 9:09Speaker 1: majority of your league stinks is unwatchable. You're gonna expand
- 9:13Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we're gonna charge us seven billion a
- 9:15Speaker 1: team that's fourteen billion that we split up thirty ways.
- 9:18Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, i'd vote for too, if I was
- 9:20Speaker 1: on their side. You know, I'm not one of these
- 9:23Speaker 1: radical media members who just despise all this shit. Like
- 9:27Speaker 1: I understand it, I get it. But to me to
- 9:31Speaker 1: put this product in these two teams in that spot
- 9:35Speaker 1: feels really really unfair and feels kind of ridiculous. Now,
- 9:40Speaker 1: I know people that a lot of you guys that
- 9:41Speaker 1: DM ME that are Australian you know either you know
- 9:45Speaker 1: people that have moved from the States or people that
- 9:47Speaker 1: just like football down there and you're excited for it,
- 9:49Speaker 1: and I get it, But are you as excited knowing that,
- 9:52Speaker 1: like you gotta take the day off work, like you
- 9:55Speaker 1: go to the stadium at ten thirty am? What other
- 9:57Speaker 1: events the sporting world have that take place? I just
- 10:04Speaker 1: I really don't get it. So I think it's ridiculous
- 10:08Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see if Kyle and Sean
- 10:13Speaker 1: kind of throw up a red flag here in a
- 10:15Speaker 1: couple of days. And obviously nothing's gonna change. This game's
- 10:18Speaker 1: going down no matter what. But kind of do cause
- 10:21Speaker 1: of stink? Because I know if I were those two
- 10:25Speaker 1: guys and have the juice, I would one cause of stink.
- 10:27Speaker 1: I would go a little Belichick. Let's piss some people off,
- 10:30Speaker 1: let's ruffle some feathers. Quick college take And we talked
- 10:36Speaker 1: about this. I don't even know when, over the course
- 10:39Speaker 1: of the last week or so, is it feels like
- 10:45Speaker 1: people are just copy and pasting the way we talk
- 10:48Speaker 1: about college sports in the NIL era, from the pre
- 10:52Speaker 1: nil era. It's like, guys, what happened? And I think
- 10:58Speaker 1: about this In the business I work in, I can't
- 11:01Speaker 1: even relate to the twenty fifteen, me a guy that
- 11:06Speaker 1: was working on radio and as a decade ago, and
- 11:10Speaker 1: the things that have dramatically changed in my industry, and hell,
- 11:14Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. I could have moved anywhere in
- 11:17Speaker 1: the world and done my show and been every bit
- 11:20Speaker 1: of successful. It did not matter. That wasn't even possible
- 11:24Speaker 1: that long ago. I mean, seriously, I think about this
- 11:27Speaker 1: from the fact that over the course of the last
- 11:32Speaker 1: twenty four hours, I ordered a baby seat for the
- 11:35Speaker 1: stroller so we can go on walks and he looks out.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I ordered gas drops so it kind of breaks down
- 11:42Speaker 1: the milk in his stomach and he parents know that,
- 11:45Speaker 1: you know, you get burpie and gassy, and these things help.
- 11:48Speaker 1: And I ordered air conditioned AC filters for my house
- 11:53Speaker 1: because I realized I hadn't changed him in a while,
- 11:55Speaker 1: and as the heat's coming in, you don't want old
- 11:57Speaker 1: filters and you know, dirty air. The press of a button.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Ten years ago, I would have had to get in
- 12:04Speaker 1: my car and probably go to three separate places, Ace hardware, whatever,
- 12:10Speaker 1: the baby store that has this stuff, and safe way
- 12:13Speaker 1: to pick up the three items. It would have been
- 12:15Speaker 1: a pain. Now I literally go to an app called
- 12:19Speaker 1: Amazon and order fucking everything. I can always need a
- 12:24Speaker 1: new toothpaste press of a button. Thank you, Jeff Bezos.
- 12:27Speaker 1: If I would have told you that ten plus years ago,
- 12:30Speaker 1: you'd be like, what, that's not possible, not doing that. No,
- 12:34Speaker 1: that's what we do Amazon. You mean the bookstore. No,
- 12:37Speaker 1: this is actually a They just deliver everything, literally, anything
- 12:40Speaker 1: you need. Hell, I got new outdoor furniture for the summer.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I needed things because we've had crappy outdoor furniture before.
- 12:47Speaker 1: We didn't have any covers, and anyone that knows if
- 12:50Speaker 1: you live in a sunny, warm place, the sun destroys
- 12:54Speaker 1: outdoor furniture. Before we had chief furniture. It didn't necessarily matter,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but it brutalized them. This time around, got a little
- 13:00Speaker 1: bit nicer furniture. It's like we need to have, especially
- 13:03Speaker 1: if we leave for a couple weeks in the summer.
- 13:05Speaker 1: We're just we're not using it covers. What did I do?
- 13:08Speaker 1: Went to Amazon, pressed the button, delivered they all fit.
- 13:11Speaker 1: That's how much life has changed where we live in
- 13:13Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. You can bitch and moan about it.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I enjoy it makes life a lot more simple. And
- 13:18Speaker 1: the one thing about college sports is before it was
- 13:21Speaker 1: like history really mattered. This is where so and so played,
- 13:25Speaker 1: this is where so and so coached, This program has
- 13:29Speaker 1: won this many titles, this program has this practice facility
- 13:35Speaker 1: and these cool things in the locker room, and look
- 13:37Speaker 1: how big their weight room is. In twenty twenty six.
- 13:41Speaker 1: None of that shit, I repeat, none of that shit matters.
- 13:45Speaker 1: How much will you pay me the nil budget or
- 13:50Speaker 1: the budget to pay the players whatever that revenue I
- 13:53Speaker 1: don't even know. It's kind of ever fluid is the
- 13:56Speaker 1: number one thing that matters. If Kurt Signetti had just
- 14:00Speaker 1: left Indiana a couple months ago to be the head
- 14:02Speaker 1: coach of the Raiders, Indiana was the losingest program in
- 14:07Speaker 1: the history of the sport two years ago. Before Signetti
- 14:10Speaker 1: got there. It would have been a job that would
- 14:12Speaker 1: have been looked at like that's a terrible job, Do
- 14:15Speaker 1: not touch that. If Signetti had just left, they would
- 14:19Speaker 1: have had the pick of sweet coaches. They would have
- 14:23Speaker 1: easily got Matt Campbell, who went to Penn State, and
- 14:25Speaker 1: historically Penn State's one of the top destinations. Obviously they
- 14:28Speaker 1: James Franklin was a big get, Bill O'Brien was a
- 14:31Speaker 1: big get. Now Matt Campbell was a big get. Indiana
- 14:34Speaker 1: could have got Matt Campbell, no problem. You know why.
- 14:36Speaker 1: They have a big budget to pay the players, and
- 14:38Speaker 1: they pay their coach a lot of money and obviously
- 14:40Speaker 1: their assistance. That's all that matters. Now. So when I
- 14:43Speaker 1: see that North Carolina fires Hubert Davis, all I see
- 14:47Speaker 1: is like, this is a destination job. The history Michael
- 14:52Speaker 1: Jeffrey Jordan played there. Guys, I'm forty one years old.
- 14:58Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen eighty four. That's the year
- 15:00Speaker 1: Michael Jordan got drafted in the NBA. These you think
- 15:05Speaker 1: Michael Jordan playing at North Carolina impacts any of these
- 15:09Speaker 1: top basketball players? What about the history, all the championships.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Once Roy came there, they he rattled off multiple championships.
- 15:17Speaker 1: None of these players care at all. Aj Dubonsa went
- 15:22Speaker 1: to BYU, not because he cares about John Smith or
- 15:27Speaker 1: because he loves the Mountains, because they paid him seven
- 15:30Speaker 1: million dollars. North Carolina in basketball, just like Ohio State
- 15:36Speaker 1: under Ryan Day, has not been dominating because they have
- 15:40Speaker 1: They're a historic program because they were great with Tressel,
- 15:44Speaker 1: because they were great back in the day with Woody
- 15:47Speaker 1: Hayes against Bo Shechem Beckler. None of that matters. It's
- 15:50Speaker 1: because they have one of, if not the highest budgets
- 15:53Speaker 1: to pay the players and pay the coaches in the country.
- 15:58Speaker 1: In football, unlike basketball, you're coordinators really matter. So part
- 16:02Speaker 1: of Indiana's success is he's got two sweet coordinators and
- 16:05Speaker 1: now he's paying them both millions of dollars. Ryan Day
- 16:08Speaker 1: has literally has two NFL coordinators, Matt Patricia who makes
- 16:13Speaker 1: like four million dollars and Arthur Smith, who now makes
- 16:17Speaker 1: like two million. He's paying his coordinators six million dollars total.
- 16:21Speaker 1: North Carolina plans on paying a basketball coach like six
- 16:24Speaker 1: or seven million, which is a lot in basketball. But
- 16:27Speaker 1: when I see like, will they get the Michigan coach,
- 16:29Speaker 1: will they get the Arizona coach? Well, yeah, if they're
- 16:33Speaker 1: willing to say, we will pay whatever it takes for
- 16:35Speaker 1: NIL to buy players. Because none of it matters. On
- 16:39Speaker 1: the logo on your shoe, the Carolina Blue, all the
- 16:44Speaker 1: championships you've won back in the day that Vince Carter
- 16:47Speaker 1: and Rashid Wallace, no one cares, literally nobody. It's the
- 16:53Speaker 1: reason Bill self has been getting Darren Peterson. They paid
- 16:56Speaker 1: for it. The reason Duke's Landing, all these guys. Obviously
- 16:59Speaker 1: Boozer went there because they paid for it. If you're
- 17:02Speaker 1: willing to pay for it, you know. I just got
- 17:05Speaker 1: a question the other day about Dabo Sweeney going on
- 17:08Speaker 1: the rant about losing a player. Do you think that
- 17:13Speaker 1: guy twenty years ago, who'd you rather play for Dabo
- 17:16Speaker 1: Sweeney or this guy Pete Golding who's coached two games
- 17:19Speaker 1: in his career. Dabos sweeneys won multiple national championships. I
- 17:22Speaker 1: get the programs down a little bit. But he didn't
- 17:25Speaker 1: leave Clemson because he didn't like Dabo, because he didn't
- 17:27Speaker 1: like the program. Omis literally recruited him when he was
- 17:30Speaker 1: on campus, said what do you make and he said X.
- 17:32Speaker 1: He said, we'll play you why That's why he left.
- 17:35Speaker 1: The game's very simple, which honestly I kind of appreciate.
- 17:39Speaker 1: It's not as emotional. It's not about like I'm going
- 17:41Speaker 1: to usc usc just had the number one recruiting class
- 17:44Speaker 1: in the country. Reggie Bush, Matt Liinert, and the Pete
- 17:48Speaker 1: Carroll era was completely irrelevant for the execution of that.
- 17:53Speaker 1: It was simply because in the state of California, you
- 17:57Speaker 1: can give high school kids money before they show up
- 18:00Speaker 1: on campus, which a lot of other states do not allow. So, USC,
- 18:06Speaker 1: who has been very underwhelming since Lincoln Riley got there,
- 18:09Speaker 1: got the number one recruiting class in the country because
- 18:12Speaker 1: they bought them. Honestly, college sports now watch blue chips.
- 18:18Speaker 1: All that was illegal now it's all legal. So when
- 18:22Speaker 1: I see the conversation around, will so and so go
- 18:25Speaker 1: and personally, I have a theory in college basketball, if
- 18:30Speaker 1: you can be like a one, two or three seed,
- 18:33Speaker 1: you know, be a top ten consistent team in the
- 18:35Speaker 1: country at a football school, that is a better job
- 18:40Speaker 1: than living in the fish bowl of Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina.
- 18:45Speaker 1: It's like would dust he may leave Michigan. Well, he's
- 18:49Speaker 1: been a number one seed. There is a program that's
- 18:51Speaker 1: been to multiple national championships over the course of the
- 18:53Speaker 1: last decade. They clearly have good nil but at the
- 18:57Speaker 1: end of the day, like he doesn't take as much
- 18:59Speaker 1: shit as fototball coach, even when the football coach is
- 19:02Speaker 1: not some dude that's banging everything walking around the street,
- 19:05Speaker 1: which it still boggles my mind when I've seen some
- 19:07Speaker 1: of these clips. The Charon more in the uh in
- 19:12Speaker 1: the courthouse and his wife is there now Again, I
- 19:16Speaker 1: never judge anyone on what they're doing when the doors
- 19:19Speaker 1: are closed behind their home. You know, inside their home.
- 19:22Speaker 1: We all do different stuff. I just know the relationship
- 19:25Speaker 1: that I'm in my current wife and my current child.
- 19:30Speaker 1: They would not be supporting me in the courthouse if
- 19:34Speaker 1: that was my situation, and I would imagine many people
- 19:37Speaker 1: listening can relate to that as well. I would not
- 19:41Speaker 1: get some loyal ride or die in the situation where
- 19:45Speaker 1: I was bending over my assistant in my office. But
- 19:48Speaker 1: that's a conversation for a different day. But Alabama, Michigan,
- 19:52Speaker 1: these coaches that are having success at football schools, that
- 19:56Speaker 1: to me is a great gig, get to fly under
- 19:59Speaker 1: the radar, a little get to make a ton of money,
- 20:02Speaker 1: and obviously they give you leftover nil, which is still
- 20:05Speaker 1: great for the basketball team. Now. I like one thing
- 20:08Speaker 1: I saw too is like, could they steal Arizona's basketball coach? Well,
- 20:12Speaker 1: as someone tweeted at me, Arizona this year is like
- 20:15Speaker 1: a top three or four roster in terms of payments
- 20:19Speaker 1: they are paying for the players. He's not just coaching
- 20:22Speaker 1: these guys out of thin air. He's not rolling out
- 20:24Speaker 1: the ball and saying middle coough you go run the
- 20:27Speaker 1: point guard for my team. They're paying premiums for these guys.
- 20:32Speaker 1: So I just think that whenever I see these people
- 20:35Speaker 1: talk about these jobs, Alabama is no longer the same
- 20:41Speaker 1: Alabama under Debor as it was under Saban. Saban obviously
- 20:45Speaker 1: is one of the greatest coaches in the history of sports,
- 20:48Speaker 1: but he had a big advantage once he got the momentum.
- 20:51Speaker 1: That's where people wanted to play a little like Caliperiat
- 20:55Speaker 1: Kentucky or Coach K at Duke. The reason John Shires
- 20:58Speaker 1: having success at Duke they have the number one nil
- 21:00Speaker 1: on the acc not because coach K twenty five years
- 21:04Speaker 1: ago was running some cool program. None of that matters.
- 21:08Speaker 1: So like Indiana is now one of the best jobs
- 21:12Speaker 1: in the country, why because they spend money on the talent.
- 21:17Speaker 1: If that is not the number one thing you say
- 21:19Speaker 1: about a job and listen, maybe North Carolina gets the
- 21:22Speaker 1: pick of the litter, But the reason it will is
- 21:25Speaker 1: because that coach will go, what's my budget to pay
- 21:28Speaker 1: the players? And they will either say it's this or
- 21:31Speaker 1: it's unlimited. Because if they say it's unlimited, then everyone
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- 24:31Speaker 1: I was actually telling my mother in law this. When
- 24:34Speaker 1: she's a stud, we fly her out and she comes
- 24:37Speaker 1: helps the baby. It's it's it's incredible. I mean that's
- 24:43Speaker 1: to have a babysitter for a couple of days and
- 24:45Speaker 1: get a good night's sleep. I mean she could have
- 24:47Speaker 1: charged me one hundred grand I would have cut her
- 24:49Speaker 1: a check. You know, the sanity and the uh, the
- 24:54Speaker 1: mental clarity it brings to uh my household is is priceless.
- 24:58Speaker 1: It truly is so found out. I got invited to
- 25:01Speaker 1: play in a member guest at a golf tournament. I said, hey,
- 25:04Speaker 1: would you would you be willing to come back? I said,
- 25:06Speaker 1: love to. I said, boom, but you tell me when
- 25:09Speaker 1: I all ordered your flight yesterday. But I was telling
- 25:13Speaker 1: her when I picked her up from the airport. A
- 25:14Speaker 1: couple of days ago, we were talking about something and
- 25:18Speaker 1: I said, I I can only speak for guys, but
- 25:21Speaker 1: I think a lot of us get to a point,
- 25:24Speaker 1: and it happens in our twenties, and it could be
- 25:27Speaker 1: early twenties, mid twenties, or late twenties where if we're
- 25:30Speaker 1: going down a path or doing something we don't want
- 25:34Speaker 1: to do, we make a pivot, we make a change,
- 25:37Speaker 1: and we go, this is not who I want to be,
- 25:40Speaker 1: this is not what I want to do, this is
- 25:42Speaker 1: not what I want to be about. And you go
- 25:44Speaker 1: in a different direction and you pretty you do it dramatically.
- 25:48Speaker 1: And I said, the older you get, I think it
- 25:51Speaker 1: becomes much more difficult. It doesn't mean it's not possible.
- 25:54Speaker 1: But as you get in your thirties your forties, I'm
- 25:57Speaker 1: not saying you don't mentally grow and you don't much
- 26:00Speaker 1: sure as a human being, but you don't change that
- 26:03Speaker 1: much or it's much more difficult to make dramatic life changes.
- 26:08Speaker 1: I truly believe that, and I think for a lot
- 26:11Speaker 1: of young men. I was just watching the Red Hot
- 26:13Speaker 1: Chili Peppers documentary, which is really really good. It's crazy.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of bands in probably the seventies
- 26:19Speaker 1: and eighties and even early nineties. I mean people that
- 26:22Speaker 1: are still alive today that became like historic musicians that
- 26:27Speaker 1: probably easily could have died in one of the members
- 26:29Speaker 1: of the I'm not gonna give it away. It's just
- 26:31Speaker 1: if you like the red hot Chili Peppers or just
- 26:32Speaker 1: kind of that versus you know, genre of music. I
- 26:35Speaker 1: check out the documentary Very Organic how they came about.
- 26:38Speaker 1: But life's about making decisions, and those decisions could be
- 26:42Speaker 1: as simple as like do you stay up super late
- 26:46Speaker 1: or your guy that kind of goes to bed early
- 26:47Speaker 1: and get your rest so you're ready to roll every day.
- 26:50Speaker 1: You know, are you complaining that you're kind of fat? Well,
- 26:52Speaker 1: what are you put in your body right? Being disciplined
- 26:55Speaker 1: on what you eat, what time you go to bed,
- 26:57Speaker 1: how you treat your body, I mean, or you binge
- 26:59Speaker 1: drink or are you not? And these are just personal
- 27:02Speaker 1: health questions. To then you a single guy, who you
- 27:04Speaker 1: run around with, what type of women, what type of girls?
- 27:08Speaker 1: And the more famous you are, the more money you have,
- 27:11Speaker 1: Like these are decisions that become much more important because
- 27:16Speaker 1: you're gonna be around situations that the average guy's not
- 27:20Speaker 1: and these situations can go well and they also couldn't
- 27:22Speaker 1: go really wrong. And also, like I always thought about
- 27:26Speaker 1: this because my dad said, the one crazy thing is
- 27:28Speaker 1: I can do a lot to like raise you and
- 27:30Speaker 1: teach you the right things to do and how to
- 27:34Speaker 1: live and how to operate. But I don't really get
- 27:36Speaker 1: to choose your friends. Like that's kind of on you
- 27:40Speaker 1: on who you hang out with from when you're a
- 27:42Speaker 1: young kid to when you go to college. Throughout life,
- 27:44Speaker 1: you know, who do you gravitate towards and listen, We've
- 27:47Speaker 1: all probably ran around with people that you're like, ah,
- 27:51Speaker 1: that probably wasn't the best idea. That could have gone
- 27:53Speaker 1: really bad. And for some people in that situation that
- 27:57Speaker 1: maybe they would have changed, it goes bad and they
- 28:01Speaker 1: get into a situation that they they not only regret,
- 28:04Speaker 1: that might change their life. And for whatever reason, Pookin
- 28:08Speaker 1: Nakula's decision making over the course of the last six
- 28:10Speaker 1: to eight months feels really shitty and let's be I
- 28:14Speaker 1: mean really kind of you know, the Mormon Wyve situation
- 28:16Speaker 1: that happened to the bats of Ratt It feels like
- 28:19Speaker 1: a cage cat got got out of provo and just
- 28:22Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do with himself and became really famous.
- 28:25Speaker 1: And it's not handling it will now. I'm not pointing
- 28:28Speaker 1: fingers and saying anyone did anything. I just know this
- 28:31Speaker 1: like one headlines like listen, you had nothing to do
- 28:34Speaker 1: with it, A great guy, like there's been enough smoke.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Now it's like, bro figure shit out. And we talked
- 28:39Speaker 1: about this the other day. It doesn't matter what the
- 28:43Speaker 1: rams say. It doesn't matter what Les Zied and Sean
- 28:47Speaker 1: McVay and Sean I think talks at the owner's meetings
- 28:49Speaker 1: here in a couple of days, the words that come
- 28:51Speaker 1: out of his mouth mean nothing to me. We'll judge
- 28:54Speaker 1: on the actions because JSN just got a historic contract.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Are they copy and pasting that or are they going out?
- 29:00Speaker 1: Absolutely no chance we're paying him that right now. We
- 29:02Speaker 1: do not trust him, and until they pay him, that's
- 29:05Speaker 1: the only thing I have to go off of. But
- 29:07Speaker 1: it does feel like Puka Nakua, who is one of
- 29:10Speaker 1: the more fun players I remember watching in my life.
- 29:14Speaker 1: He is just a badass on the field, but as
- 29:18Speaker 1: of right now, he's not someone that you could trust
- 29:20Speaker 1: giving one hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed to and
- 29:23Speaker 1: I think the rams every day that goes by is
- 29:25Speaker 1: showing you they agree. I believe, And I'm not trying
- 29:29Speaker 1: to be like Steven A. Smith here, but he's kind
- 29:31Speaker 1: of at a fork in the road. It's like time
- 29:34Speaker 1: to either draw a line in the sand and be like,
- 29:36Speaker 1: I'm getting away from all these fucking people who are
- 29:39Speaker 1: putting me in bad situations and then through them, I'm
- 29:42Speaker 1: putting myself in bad situations, or I'm just gonna be
- 29:45Speaker 1: a slappy And we see a lot of NFL guys
- 29:49Speaker 1: with a lot of talent get down a rut and
- 29:51Speaker 1: never been able to get out, and you look back
- 29:53Speaker 1: what could have been. And I do feel like he's
- 29:56Speaker 1: kind of in a fork in the road right now.
- 29:58Speaker 1: And he clearly he has a bunch of high level
- 30:01Speaker 1: guys around him. I mean, Davante from just a work
- 30:05Speaker 1: ethics standpoint, married man, kids, Stafford family. It's like you
- 30:09Speaker 1: got guys in your own meeting rooms, in your own
- 30:12Speaker 1: side of the ball that are just high level cats,
- 30:16Speaker 1: mature dudes. And I get it, you're young. You are,
- 30:21Speaker 1: you know, the one of the toasts of the of
- 30:23Speaker 1: not the town. Because I don't think La necessarily gives
- 30:26Speaker 1: a shit but of the league, you got a lot.
- 30:29Speaker 1: You know, heavy is the head that wears the crown, right,
- 30:33Speaker 1: So when things are going really well, more people are
- 30:39Speaker 1: paying attention, and there's a lot of pressure on you
- 30:44Speaker 1: to do the right things. And it's easy for me
- 30:47Speaker 1: to say like I never got I mean, I probably
- 30:51Speaker 1: got lucky a lot when I was younger, but by
- 30:53Speaker 1: the time I got to college, like drugs didn't interest me.
- 30:56Speaker 1: I found out pretty quick, like I'm not a club
- 30:58Speaker 1: late night guy. I'm not saying I don't like the
- 31:01Speaker 1: booze a little bit, but I'm not You're not gonna
- 31:03Speaker 1: find me up. I get too tired at like two
- 31:05Speaker 1: in the morning, you know, So I and listen, there
- 31:09Speaker 1: are probably some women in my single days it's like, yeah,
- 31:11Speaker 1: that could have gone wrong, that could have gone bad.
- 31:14Speaker 1: I think a lot of people could say, like, I'm
- 31:16Speaker 1: glad that we just kind of got through that period
- 31:18Speaker 1: of my life. But I also didn't have one hundred
- 31:21Speaker 1: and twenty million dollar contract waiting for me in my
- 31:23Speaker 1: mid twenties, and it does feel like he's got an
- 31:26Speaker 1: opportunity to really fuck this thing up. So I just
- 31:30Speaker 1: know that these headlines and gonna deny and It's like,
- 31:33Speaker 1: how many headlines are we gonna get now? Because I
- 31:36Speaker 1: look around like I don't see any headlines with Jamar
- 31:38Speaker 1: Chase or Justin Jefferson or Davante Adams. It's like, it's
- 31:43Speaker 1: one thing. Listen. It doesn't bother me tweeting about the refs,
- 31:46Speaker 1: But when TMZ is tweeting about you, it's drawing the lines,
- 31:52Speaker 1: you know, a line in the sand. Time it's okay,
- 31:55Speaker 1: it's time to look in the mirror, have a little
- 31:56Speaker 1: introspection and be like, what do we need to change?
- 31:59Speaker 1: How do I need to pivot? Because if you don't,
- 32:03Speaker 1: this all could get away from me really fast. A
- 32:06Speaker 1: couple quick quarterback things. There was video of Patrick Mahomes.
- 32:10Speaker 1: I had the video on mute because he was the
- 32:13Speaker 1: baby was sleeping earlier today, but he was throwing now,
- 32:17Speaker 1: you know, three months out of ACL surgery. I know.
- 32:20Speaker 1: When I was at the combine, I was told by
- 32:22Speaker 1: very reliable sources they feel very confident about the pace
- 32:27Speaker 1: in which he's making. So I think it's fair to say,
- 32:30Speaker 1: as we sit here on March twenty six, like I
- 32:33Speaker 1: would be prepared for Patrick Mahomes to play Week one.
- 32:36Speaker 1: I don't even think it's insane. I wouldn't go there yet.
- 32:39Speaker 1: It's well got a long way to go that like
- 32:41Speaker 1: by the start of training camp he's ready to go.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Even if he was, they would probably ease him in.
- 32:46Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure even if he does some limited stuff
- 32:49Speaker 1: during OTAs, they're gonna work with Justin Fields a Ton
- 32:52Speaker 1: and let Patrick mahomes easy into this. But this gets
- 32:55Speaker 1: back to they're gonna get a motivated guy. They're gonna
- 32:59Speaker 1: get a guy that, let's face said, did not have
- 33:00Speaker 1: a good season, and they're gonna have reinforcements. They have
- 33:04Speaker 1: a great opportunity pick nine, pick twenty nine other picks
- 33:09Speaker 1: in the draft to really change this thing around. And
- 33:13Speaker 1: they clearly know it. He clearly knows it. And I'm
- 33:17Speaker 1: telling you, I think the Chiefs not saying they're gonna
- 33:21Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, but they're gonna have a chip
- 33:24Speaker 1: on their shoulder. They're gonna be coming, They're gonna be
- 33:28Speaker 1: bringing it. The other thing is Ty Simpsons got a
- 33:33Speaker 1: first round pick for me. I didn't see it when
- 33:35Speaker 1: I watched them. I used this comp of like, I
- 33:38Speaker 1: think there's some similarities with perty Perty was a seventh
- 33:41Speaker 1: round pick. Those type players for me, are guys that
- 33:45Speaker 1: are drafted after pick one hundred. Now I get it
- 33:47Speaker 1: with quarterback inflation or Latsky's getting shit on his connection
- 33:51Speaker 1: with Cia, who also represents Ty Simpson, which I think
- 33:55Speaker 1: we really benefit from. Like in twenty twenty six, we
- 33:58Speaker 1: kind of know what's going on, and if we don't
- 34:01Speaker 1: know what's going on, we eventually find out what's going
- 34:03Speaker 1: on really quick. I've always said this about my parents.
- 34:05Speaker 1: They grew up in an era that you know, after
- 34:08Speaker 1: World War Two and in just some other international conflicts.
- 34:14Speaker 1: When they grew up, like in junior high and elementary school,
- 34:18Speaker 1: they would do bomb drills where they hit under the
- 34:20Speaker 1: desk prompt. It's like, did no one raise their hand
- 34:23Speaker 1: and be like, uh, this makes no sense, Like what
- 34:27Speaker 1: are we doing there? But no one didn't and they
- 34:29Speaker 1: just hopped under the desk. It's not really the times
- 34:32Speaker 1: we live in, Like we kind of have a bunch
- 34:34Speaker 1: of information. You could argue too much, but I do
- 34:37Speaker 1: think it's fair to say, like when you're represented by
- 34:39Speaker 1: the same people and our lawsky's like, well I pay them. Yeah,
- 34:42Speaker 1: It's like we all know. Mi guy Ethan Strauss been
- 34:44Speaker 1: writing about this for Woes Woes used to destroy coaches
- 34:48Speaker 1: who weren't CAA and then guys that were he would
- 34:51Speaker 1: protect kind of the game, kind of the world. They
- 34:53Speaker 1: helped place you in these spots. They helped make you
- 34:56Speaker 1: a lot of money and negotiate. Whoever you're in business with,
- 35:00Speaker 1: you are going to have, You're gonna be more cognizant
- 35:05Speaker 1: of the relationship. Let me just say, especially people that
- 35:08Speaker 1: make you money. Right, So listen, I'm very protective of
- 35:12Speaker 1: the relationship I have with Colin and the operation that
- 35:16Speaker 1: has changed my life professionally, financially, the whole thing. That's
- 35:21Speaker 1: usually the way it go for anyone with a fucking brain.
- 35:25Speaker 1: That being said, I've texted a bunch of different executives
- 35:29Speaker 1: and scouts, and some people are in agreement with me.
- 35:33Speaker 1: No way. I text a buddy today who's a future
- 35:36Speaker 1: GM Locke in the next three or four years, maybe
- 35:38Speaker 1: even less. Was like, I think he's a top I
- 35:41Speaker 1: think he's a top thirty two pick. I think he's
- 35:43Speaker 1: a first round pick. He agreed with Dan, maybe not
- 35:48Speaker 1: necessarily he was the best quarterback in the draft, but
- 35:50Speaker 1: he thinks for sure he's a first round pick. That's
- 35:53Speaker 1: kind of draft talk. That's kind of what these draft
- 35:56Speaker 1: meetings are. You get into a meeting, there is going
- 36:00Speaker 1: to be someone in that room potentially, you know, for
- 36:03Speaker 1: guys like Jeremiah Love, you would look like the village
- 36:07Speaker 1: idiot if you raised your hand your life. I don't
- 36:10Speaker 1: think this guy's that good, you know. I think this
- 36:12Speaker 1: guy thinks I hate him, which I don't really personally
- 36:16Speaker 1: have any feelings toward him. But Ryan Grigson once had
- 36:18Speaker 1: a second round grade on von Miller. It's like, yeah,
- 36:21Speaker 1: I'd keep that one to yourself. I wouldn't say anything
- 36:26Speaker 1: about that in the room. It's like, this guy's not
- 36:29Speaker 1: only a top five pick, it's pretty clear what he
- 36:31Speaker 1: does is going to translate to the league fifteen years later.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Guy's going to the Hall of Fame. But most players,
- 36:39Speaker 1: you can argue till you're blue in the face, cause
- 36:41Speaker 1: most guys are not just like, this guy's a future
- 36:44Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. That's not you really how it works
- 36:47Speaker 1: in the draft. So when you look at a guy
- 36:49Speaker 1: like makay Lemon or Omar Cooper from Indiana or Bane
- 36:57Speaker 1: from Miami or whoever in this draft, you could argue like, yeah,
- 37:01Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not comfortable with this pick, and
- 37:03Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys in every single draft room arguing
- 37:08Speaker 1: both sides. So they're gonna be people that don't like
- 37:11Speaker 1: Fernando Mendos. They're gonna be people that don't like Ty Simpson.
- 37:13Speaker 1: I think the problem for Dan is his argument goes
- 37:19Speaker 1: about Fernando. It's like, the biggest games are the most
- 37:23Speaker 1: important games. And when he played Ohio State and on
- 37:27Speaker 1: the first play of the game, he got hit like
- 37:30Speaker 1: you would get hit in the NFL from Miles Garrett
- 37:33Speaker 1: or Micah Parsons, and it looked like he broke ribs,
- 37:36Speaker 1: got a concussion, and it was like his season is over.
- 37:40Speaker 1: And two plays later he shook it off and came
- 37:42Speaker 1: back in the game. That's the NFL. That is what
- 37:46Speaker 1: the NFL is. So when I see Ty Simpson doesn't
- 37:49Speaker 1: have a run game, a lot of bad teams in
- 37:51Speaker 1: the NFL don't have a run game. How are you
- 37:52Speaker 1: gonna figure it out? That's part of playing football, that's
- 37:56Speaker 1: part of playing in the NFL. It's like, well, they
- 37:58Speaker 1: were down seven points going into the fourth quarter. Welcome
- 38:03Speaker 1: to Sundays. So what he showed in the stretch of games,
- 38:07Speaker 1: which were the most important games were the games everyone
- 38:11Speaker 1: was watching and against the best competition outweigh some of
- 38:17Speaker 1: the bad games or the bad moments that he had.
- 38:20Speaker 1: The other thing is how you react to bad plays,
- 38:23Speaker 1: which are inevitable in the NFL. Peyton Manning threw a
- 38:26Speaker 1: pick six in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has thrown
- 38:31Speaker 1: pick six is in playoff games and I'm pretty sure
- 38:33Speaker 1: the Super Bowl as well. Part of the deal comes
- 38:36Speaker 1: with the territory. How do you react? What am I
- 38:40Speaker 1: supposed to judge a guy throwing three or four touchdowns
- 38:43Speaker 1: beating the shit out of you? That's not normal. In
- 38:45Speaker 1: the NFL. The Chiefs couple of years ago went to
- 38:47Speaker 1: the Super Bowl won it. They went fifteen to two,
- 38:49Speaker 1: Like most of their games were one score game in
- 38:51Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's Sunday football. So I, like, my
- 38:58Speaker 1: issue isn't like I have no problem with people having
- 39:00Speaker 1: different opinions. We need more people with different opinions that
- 39:03Speaker 1: are like, yeah, it's just where it goes. If everyone
- 39:06Speaker 1: in the room is thinking the same way, you're probably
- 39:08Speaker 1: in this wrong room and you're probably gonna get to
- 39:10Speaker 1: a bad decision. Right. So I have no problem with
- 39:15Speaker 1: him thinking that, though I disagree and I'm on McAfee
- 39:20Speaker 1: side about that stretch of games, that is like I
- 39:23Speaker 1: know what I watched, and I know the teams and
- 39:25Speaker 1: the talent in which he was playing, Like that was
- 39:26Speaker 1: fucking impressive. Now that's also being said of like Fernando
- 39:30Speaker 1: Mendoz is not some like all time prospect, but in
- 39:33Speaker 1: my mind, in my opinion, he's a much better prospect
- 39:36Speaker 1: than Ty Simpson. But there'll be people in the league
- 39:39Speaker 1: that disagree with you. Uh, really quick. This segment is
- 39:45Speaker 1: change of scenery sponsored by my friends at Toyota. Now
- 39:51Speaker 1: here's the thing. Joe Flacco have the opportunity for an
- 39:56Speaker 1: incredible change of scenery. Now it takes two to tango.
- 40:00Speaker 1: If the Steelers, who don't really have quarterbacks right now,
- 40:03Speaker 1: and who knows Daron Rodgers needed a backup plan and
- 40:08Speaker 1: last year, I know Tomlin's not there, but Tomlin thought
- 40:10Speaker 1: he was like Joe Montana meets John Elway. He could
- 40:13Speaker 1: have done what probably rarely happens. A guy plays for
- 40:18Speaker 1: every team in a division. He's obviously he just resigned
- 40:22Speaker 1: with the Bengals, where he signed last year before he
- 40:24Speaker 1: was traded. After he was traded from the Browns. That
- 40:28Speaker 1: would have been really cool to see a guy play.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Started his career for the Ravens, end up playing for
- 40:34Speaker 1: the Browns, traded to the Bengals, and then end his
- 40:38Speaker 1: career playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think Joe Flacco,
- 40:43Speaker 1: who I thought five or six years ago, wasn't just shot.
- 40:48Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's out of the league just He's
- 40:49Speaker 1: gonna be coaching high school football, hanging out with his family. Somehow,
- 40:54Speaker 1: he has dusted off whatever you know, cobwebs were on
- 40:59Speaker 1: those cleats and that shoulder and that elbow, and he's
- 41:02Speaker 1: actually been a pretty functional backup and the Bengals signed
- 41:06Speaker 1: him back, and he's pissed off. He's saying it's dumb
- 41:08Speaker 1: that most people in the league don't think he can start.
- 41:10Speaker 1: It's like, Joe, you're forty one, you can't move. You
- 41:13Speaker 1: can just basically throw the deep ball and check it down.
- 41:15Speaker 1: But I appreciate his chip on his shoulder still at
- 41:21Speaker 1: this day and age, with the amount of money he's made,
- 41:24Speaker 1: and why is he doing this, Like what is the
- 41:28Speaker 1: point of this, I'm not quite sure, but I'm really
- 41:33Speaker 1: really mad because I think it would have been really
- 41:36Speaker 1: cool to see him complete the four corners and just
- 41:41Speaker 1: have the NFC or the AFC North the completion of
- 41:45Speaker 1: playing for every team and obviously ending his career on
- 41:49Speaker 1: the rival to the team that kind of made his career,
- 41:52Speaker 1: the Ravens, but we didn't get it. Now Joe Flacco
- 41:56Speaker 1: is back on the Bengals, which he didn't really start
- 42:00Speaker 1: on because last year he got traded in the middle
- 42:02Speaker 1: of the season from a divisional foe. Just bizarre situation.
- 42:06Speaker 1: So Toyota reminds us that when people are the destination,
- 42:11Speaker 1: it's not where you're headed, but who you're headed there with.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Learn more at Toyota dot com and find a vehicle
- 42:18Speaker 1: that fits your people. Okay, before we do a couple
- 42:33Speaker 1: of middleclock mail back questions, Uh, I do want to
- 42:37Speaker 1: pick my final four hard rock bet. I told you guys,
- 42:41Speaker 1: the two teams I hammered White, I did three, I
- 42:44Speaker 1: did Art, I did Kansas and Saint John's because I
- 42:47Speaker 1: knew they were going to play each other and whoever
- 42:49Speaker 1: won that game was going to have a lot of momentum.
- 42:51Speaker 1: And Patino didn't just win that game. It feels that
- 42:54Speaker 1: that walk off he calls the dude big balls bell. Uh.
- 42:57Speaker 1: He's won national championships before, for I'm just listen, It's
- 43:02Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult, but I'm taking the Johnnies to
- 43:05Speaker 1: make the final four. I also got to stick with
- 43:08Speaker 1: my guy, John cal Party, who I think is Taylor
- 43:11Speaker 1: made for the nil era. Taylor made for the nil air.
- 43:16Speaker 1: And the reason Arkansas has a chance to not only
- 43:18Speaker 1: make the Final four this year but be a dominant
- 43:20Speaker 1: team moving forward is not because Nolan Richardson and Corlis
- 43:25Speaker 1: Williamson in the nineties. It's because of Tyson Chicken and
- 43:28Speaker 1: the nil behind that program is big time. So I'm
- 43:33Speaker 1: going the Johnnys, going Patino, I'm going John cal Party.
- 43:39Speaker 1: After Nebraska, his son hits the game winning layup, then
- 43:45Speaker 1: the dude misses the half court shot, which was in
- 43:48Speaker 1: the basket. I feel like that same bounce ten times
- 43:52Speaker 1: it goes in like eight. Might just be a team
- 43:54Speaker 1: of destiny. They had never won an NCAA Tournament game
- 43:59Speaker 1: until this year. Now they're in the final four. You
- 44:02Speaker 1: look at the bracket like, I don't think it's impossible.
- 44:05Speaker 1: This one's a little bit more of my heart than
- 44:09Speaker 1: what I would bet on. But I'm taking Nebraska to
- 44:11Speaker 1: make the Final four and last but not least Michigan
- 44:14Speaker 1: feels like they've been in the Final four a lot
- 44:16Speaker 1: over the course of the last fifteen years. They're just good.
- 44:20Speaker 1: I'm going to Arkansas, the Johnny's, Nebraska and Michigan. Let's
- 44:23Speaker 1: do a little midlecoff mail bag at John middlecoff at
- 44:25Speaker 1: John midle Coffin just wended with a couple questions. We'll
- 44:29Speaker 1: start with Alexander. If you were do podcast on something
- 44:33Speaker 1: beside sports, what would it be, politics, travel, life stories, etc. Well,
- 44:44Speaker 1: my wife gets very angry at me. I mean she could.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I feel like could travel NonStop. Not a big travel guy.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Not that I don't like traveling, Like I've been other
- 44:53Speaker 1: places and when I'm there, I enjoy it. Chicago last
- 44:56Speaker 1: year with Colin was cool. Got married to Nashville. Love
- 45:00Speaker 1: that place. I love it when i'm there. I just
- 45:03Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys who's, as my wife says,
- 45:06Speaker 1: my cup gets full when I know I got a
- 45:08Speaker 1: trip on the books that's not necessarily be again. Been
- 45:12Speaker 1: to Europe twenty plus years ago was awesome. If you
- 45:15Speaker 1: told me I never went again, I'm like, I like
- 45:18Speaker 1: Italy and Blake Cuomo looks as cool as anything online.
- 45:22Speaker 1: If you tell me I never go there. I'm not
- 45:23Speaker 1: gonna lose much sleep. So I probably wouldn't be the
- 45:26Speaker 1: guy for the travel podcast as someone who's trying to
- 45:31Speaker 1: change my diet dramatically. I kind of am a fat,
- 45:35Speaker 1: acid heart, So I would say I could do a
- 45:37Speaker 1: pretty good food podcast because I do love to eat.
- 45:40Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily a foodie because I kind of will
- 45:43Speaker 1: eat anything, but I do think that would kind of work.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Like all sorts of genres, nice stuff, crappy stuff, hole
- 45:49Speaker 1: in the wall, you name it. But I gotta get
- 45:51Speaker 1: better at what I put in my body. Politics, you
- 45:54Speaker 1: just get too angry when you know you talk about it.
- 45:58Speaker 1: I know I do, but people do. I also think
- 46:01Speaker 1: none of us have any impact on anything. Like one
- 46:04Speaker 1: thing I've learned besides being able to move you or
- 46:07Speaker 1: your family to an area that kind of fits with
- 46:12Speaker 1: what you want out of life, like, we don't really
- 46:15Speaker 1: have that much juice. So I just try to focus
- 46:17Speaker 1: on my business and my family and I guess friends
- 46:20Speaker 1: and nothing else really matters. When I see people online
- 46:23Speaker 1: getting so caught up, it's like, bro, you have no
- 46:25Speaker 1: influence over any of this shit. How are you? Is
- 46:28Speaker 1: this all fake? Because there's no way you can actually
- 46:30Speaker 1: be this mad, Like I don't think this is you're
- 46:33Speaker 1: actually acting like this offline, which I kind of believe
- 46:36Speaker 1: none of them really are, especially like the rich, you know, celebrity,
- 46:40Speaker 1: powerful people. I don't think they actually care. Once they
- 46:42Speaker 1: click off, they just go lead their life. So I
- 46:46Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I do a football podcast, do
- 46:48Speaker 1: a golf podcast. I try to interweave my takes in those,
- 46:53Speaker 1: so I haven't really never crossed my mind to do,
- 46:57Speaker 1: you know, call her daddy Daddy. Pretty big pivot. I
- 47:02Speaker 1: try to describe it to a buddy the other day,
- 47:04Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, she got famous off talking about blowjobs.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Like He's like what, I'm like, No, I'm dead serious,
- 47:10Speaker 1: Like the gluck luck, the blowjob is not what just
- 47:14Speaker 1: put her on the map. I mean it made her
- 47:16Speaker 1: a rocket ship. I started listening. I'm like this just
- 47:19Speaker 1: because I was fascinated. It was like this podcast went
- 47:21Speaker 1: from zero to like one of the most popular things
- 47:23Speaker 1: in America and now it's like interviewing Oprah. You know.
- 47:27Speaker 1: I was like, it's a hard pivot, but uh, I listen,
- 47:32Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do for that cash. Uh,
- 47:36Speaker 1: with how young green Bay Packers change the back to
- 47:40Speaker 1: football with how young Green Bay Packers are. Is that
- 47:44Speaker 1: actually the advantage in today's NFL with cat flexibility or
- 47:46Speaker 1: does youth still show up as a weakness in big
- 47:49Speaker 1: time playoff moments with Jordan Love and his surrounding cast.
- 47:53Speaker 1: I think youth could be a little overrated, you know.
- 47:55Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs got Carloftis and Trent McDuffie and
- 47:58Speaker 1: they started going to Super Bowl and they got ready
- 48:00Speaker 1: to Tyreek Hill. So to me, youth can get brought
- 48:03Speaker 1: up to speed immediately when you have established people on
- 48:06Speaker 1: the team, When you have established winning veterans, they can
- 48:10Speaker 1: bring you along really quick. It's like you can go
- 48:13Speaker 1: into a job and not really know what you're doing,
- 48:16Speaker 1: but if you have a good mentor or people you're
- 48:18Speaker 1: working with to kind of show you the ropes, you
- 48:20Speaker 1: can turn the corner quick. Now, if you go to
- 48:22Speaker 1: a place like you get drafted by the Jets and
- 48:24Speaker 1: no one knows what they're doing, like, it can be
- 48:26Speaker 1: a problem and that's the reason they don't win many games.
- 48:29Speaker 1: But I think like when you look at a lot
- 48:31Speaker 1: of good teams, nature of the beasts, like you're just
- 48:34Speaker 1: gonna have some young players, and the other thing with
- 48:36Speaker 1: young players, like they get better. You know, old players
- 48:39Speaker 1: can get worse. Do you think John John Schneider could
- 48:45Speaker 1: get an equity position from the sale of the Seahawks. Uh,
- 48:52Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, I'm sure he'd want it. Uh.
- 48:57Speaker 1: I just I would doubt that would happen. I don't
- 49:03Speaker 1: know if there are NFL rules, But if I was him,
- 49:06Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, you can pay me whatever my
- 49:10Speaker 1: salary is. Cut that thing in half and give me
- 49:15Speaker 1: if I stay for the next ten years. Every year
- 49:18Speaker 1: is a tiny, tiny percentage, and maybe it adds up
- 49:21Speaker 1: to whatever a percent or two. I mean, do the math.
- 49:24Speaker 1: So I'm sure he would tell his agent, but I
- 49:28Speaker 1: don't think that's the way it works. Should they give
- 49:31Speaker 1: both those two guys a little dabble? Again, I don't
- 49:34Speaker 1: know the rules on that. Typically, rich people aren't just
- 49:37Speaker 1: big on just handing out equity though, especially with It's
- 49:42Speaker 1: one thing to get equity in a startup worth nothing.
- 49:44Speaker 1: It's another thing to give out equity in something that
- 49:46Speaker 1: sells for ten billion. Interesting, who's gonna buy it? Right?
- 49:51Speaker 1: I Mean, that's I think a lot of people think
- 49:53Speaker 1: Seattle Bezos. Does he want to own a football team?
- 49:58Speaker 1: I don't know, but again, like ten billion to him
- 50:00Speaker 1: probably isn't that much, So maybe it's like, yeah, just
- 50:04Speaker 1: buy a football team whatever I'm in. My take would be,
- 50:07Speaker 1: if you're super rich, buying football team might be a
- 50:11Speaker 1: pain in the ass because if things go bad, everyone's
- 50:15Speaker 1: shitting on you, and then you just human nature, you
- 50:19Speaker 1: would try, like, if something was going bad, you would
- 50:23Speaker 1: have to try to respond, right, So if like, Okay,
- 50:25Speaker 1: we gotta fire this guy, we gotta do that, and
- 50:27Speaker 1: they can just keep going bad and then everyone just
- 50:30Speaker 1: starts saying you're a village idiot. You're like, well, I
- 50:32Speaker 1: just pay ten billion dollars in cash for this. I
- 50:34Speaker 1: must not be that stupid. Create a thing called Amazon
- 50:36Speaker 1: that you guys are all using. But all of a sudden,
- 50:39Speaker 1: if Seattle went the wrong way, everyone would be all
- 50:41Speaker 1: over his ass. You know. Jimmy Haslam was just a
- 50:44Speaker 1: rich guy printing cash until he bought the browns Now
- 50:47Speaker 1: everyone thinks he's the worst owner ever. David Temper was
- 50:51Speaker 1: just one of the greatest stock traders of all time
- 50:54Speaker 1: until he heaves that that vodka soda at that chick
- 50:57Speaker 1: of the Jags game and then everyone's been talking shit
- 50:59Speaker 1: ever answer, So I don't know. I might just stay
- 51:04Speaker 1: rich and just leave me alone. If I want to
- 51:07Speaker 1: watch football, just watch it on my couch. Question for
- 51:11Speaker 1: the bag, at what point do bad teams really start
- 51:14Speaker 1: mailing it in? For example, when a team starts one
- 51:17Speaker 1: to five or zero and six next year, do they
- 51:19Speaker 1: start making changes quarterback, d line? Uh, it's probably pretty rare.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Like the Chiefs, they didn't view themselves a six win
- 51:29Speaker 1: team in training camp and then things, you know, hit
- 51:31Speaker 1: the skids. I think like when the Jets, the Dolphins,
- 51:35Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Browns, there're gonna be some of these
- 51:40Speaker 1: teams in training camp that aren't gonna go okay, we're
- 51:42Speaker 1: gonna be really good. So you have an idea. I
- 51:46Speaker 1: think you start talking about it in training camp. As
- 51:48Speaker 1: the season goes, let's try to work these guys in
- 51:51Speaker 1: and then obviously if you start really like oh and seven,
- 51:55Speaker 1: that happens. But the thing in the NFL, you can
- 52:00Speaker 1: be six and two and if you ain't getting it done,
- 52:03Speaker 1: you will get benched. This is a league that win
- 52:07Speaker 1: or lose. You have to play well because if you don't,
- 52:11Speaker 1: you will get replaced. Now, quarterback a little more sensitive.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Let's face, they're just treated differently. But all these other positions,
- 52:20Speaker 1: you cannot get smoked every week just because the team's good.
- 52:25Speaker 1: And you're a linebacker missing tackles, you're a safety, blown coverages,
- 52:29Speaker 1: you're a guard getting smoked, you will get replaced. I
- 52:32Speaker 1: think that's what makes the NFL so relatable to society.
- 52:36Speaker 1: In basketball, you're just kind of a made man. That guy.
- 52:38Speaker 1: I'm making forty million dollars a year. What are you
- 52:39Speaker 1: gonna do to me? And the answer is nothing, really,
- 52:41Speaker 1: I mean, you probably just keep playing. Right. In football,
- 52:44Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I've paid you a lot of money
- 52:46Speaker 1: just not getting done. See you, I might just cut you.
- 52:49Speaker 1: But guy, winning teams cut players. So I think you say,
- 52:54Speaker 1: losing teams I think every team thing with football the
- 52:59Speaker 1: first coaches do. Right. Let's just say a home game. Obviously,
- 53:03Speaker 1: if you're flying home, some of them wants a tape,
- 53:05Speaker 1: some of them might just have a peer and relax.
- 53:07Speaker 1: But definitely Sunday or Monday morning, right, so you play Sunday.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Let's say you have a home game at noon. You
- 53:14Speaker 1: know you win or you lose, you shower whatever after
- 53:19Speaker 1: the game as a player, as a coach, go home
- 53:21Speaker 1: with your family, go to dinner. You're back in the
- 53:23Speaker 1: office pretty early. Some coaches are nuts, they're there at
- 53:26Speaker 1: like four thirty five. Some coaches maybe work their way
- 53:29Speaker 1: in at six seven, get a workout. You typically have
- 53:34Speaker 1: some sort of staff meeting before lunch to go over
- 53:38Speaker 1: the grades of the tape, because probably like eight or
- 53:41Speaker 1: nine you watch the tape, you've watched it individually, and
- 53:45Speaker 1: then you watch it like offense defense, and maybe the
- 53:47Speaker 1: head coach, if he's an offensive defensive guy, is in
- 53:50Speaker 1: there with you, and you're going through it and grading
- 53:52Speaker 1: it and evaluating everybody. So if you're the offense, THEOC
- 53:57Speaker 1: probably has or the head coach has the clicker, the
- 54:00Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, the aligned coach, the tight end coach,
- 54:02Speaker 1: the running back coach, quarterback coach. They're all in that room,
- 54:06Speaker 1: you know, with their already gray. It's kind of going
- 54:09Speaker 1: over it. So over the course of a month, like
- 54:11Speaker 1: in September, you could be four and oh, but like,
- 54:15Speaker 1: hey man, our fucking right tackle is not getting it done.
- 54:18Speaker 1: Do we need to trade for one? Do we need
- 54:20Speaker 1: to claim a guy? Do we need to start competing
- 54:22Speaker 1: the backup in practice. So that's the thing with football.
- 54:28Speaker 1: I think most jobs, I mean, unless you're like Justin
- 54:31Speaker 1: Jefferson could have a bad month, you know what I mean.
- 54:33Speaker 1: The majority of players, though, are getting evaluated very very
- 54:37Speaker 1: thoroughly every single week, win loser, draw, and that that's
- 54:41Speaker 1: what I think makes the NFL so intense. It's why
- 54:43Speaker 1: when you see these players, these former players talk about
- 54:46Speaker 1: the anxiety every week, all these team meetings on Wednesday,
- 54:49Speaker 1: because it's just an intense environment. It doesn't matter if
- 54:52Speaker 1: you're ten and oh or two and eight. You gotta
- 54:55Speaker 1: fucking have your head on a swivel. No good team
- 54:59Speaker 1: like has a complacent environment, and then bad teams even
- 55:05Speaker 1: if it has a bad environment, everyone's on edge because
- 55:08Speaker 1: you know at any moment you get cut, fired, traded, whatever.
- 55:11Speaker 1: So good teams everyone's kind of like, hey, we gotta
- 55:16Speaker 1: this isn't good enough. We gotta people are coming for us.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Bad teams everyone thinks like this could be my last day.
- 55:22Speaker 1: It's just football. Listening to today's podcast, I found it
- 55:25Speaker 1: funny that one of the ads is for a pet Er.
- 55:29Speaker 1: I love that Fugazi rant. Some people hit me up
- 55:32Speaker 1: on some of the ads. The automated ads, they're called
- 55:37Speaker 1: programmatic ads are typically which that is funny, are sometimes
- 55:43Speaker 1: locally driven. Someone's like, middle Coff, you got this political ad. Well,
- 55:47Speaker 1: if you live in a certain area, you know, iHeart.
- 55:50Speaker 1: We just buy these ad platforms, like the guy that
- 55:53Speaker 1: lives in Florida is gonna get a different ad than
- 55:57Speaker 1: the dude that lives in Minnesota in Seattle. So some
- 56:02Speaker 1: of the now, some of them are national, right, like
- 56:04Speaker 1: McDonald's or something. But sometimes some of these ads are
- 56:10Speaker 1: locally driven. Which is the power of what we do
- 56:13Speaker 1: is you know, it's it's based on where you are.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Why radios fucked? Also, a listener gave you an idea
- 56:21Speaker 1: for the fans of the show. It's stupid, but you
- 56:24Speaker 1: could call your fans the Eagles since they're all obsessed
- 56:27Speaker 1: with three and out. I don't think how we would
- 56:30Speaker 1: like that joke, but that's a pretty good one. Yeah,
- 56:33Speaker 1: we just gotta when you know it, it's like if
- 56:39Speaker 1: I ever hear it and I go, that's it. I've
- 56:41Speaker 1: just never heard one. It's like, that's it. Who knows?
- 56:44Speaker 1: Like knowing what I know? Now? What I name the
- 56:46Speaker 1: show three and Out? I don't know. I just I
- 56:48Speaker 1: remember needing a football name. I wanted something kind of generic.
- 56:53Speaker 1: I remember Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks. I'm like, that
- 56:56Speaker 1: is just a great name, move the sticks. Certain names
- 57:00Speaker 1: just just work right, pardon my take. Certain names just
- 57:06Speaker 1: call her daddy. I mean, they're just certain names. Like
- 57:08Speaker 1: that was a genius name. Three and out. I would
- 57:11Speaker 1: I have renamed it like after I started doing it.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Who knows? But too deep in and out of change.
- 57:19Speaker 1: Question for the bag Ravens fan, how do you think
- 57:22Speaker 1: the team should approach the first round? I still have
- 57:25Speaker 1: major concerns with a pass rush. While Trey helps, unless
- 57:30Speaker 1: Matabuque is healthy and Mike Green takes a major step,
- 57:33Speaker 1: I struggle to see this unit not big a weakness, again,
- 57:36Speaker 1: considering no one had more than five sacks. I have
- 57:39Speaker 1: similar concerns with the pass catchers zay as they and
- 57:44Speaker 1: in aging Mark Andrews are their only proven guys. I
- 57:47Speaker 1: see mock drafts having us take an interior offensive lineman,
- 57:50Speaker 1: but that seems like a reach on a position the
- 57:53Speaker 1: Ravens have had success drafting in later rounds. Well, you're
- 58:00Speaker 1: kind of the sweet spot because I don't know if
- 58:05Speaker 1: there's a wide receiver worth taking there at fourteen, one
- 58:08Speaker 1: of the pass rushers could definitely drop. I think you
- 58:11Speaker 1: would have to think long and hard about that. I mean,
- 58:14Speaker 1: Trey Henderson's coming off a major injury where he played
- 58:17Speaker 1: seven games, and he's an older player, so like, what's
- 58:25Speaker 1: his What would you say is over under sacks? Is
- 58:27Speaker 1: next year? If I said ten and a half? Like
- 58:32Speaker 1: to me, if you tell me he's healthy for seventeen games,
- 58:35Speaker 1: like he's getting double digit sacks, would I bet on
- 58:37Speaker 1: him playing all these games? I don't know if I would.
- 58:41Speaker 1: So I think they're very, very invested in him. We've
- 58:43Speaker 1: seen some older pass rushers recently like kind of get
- 58:46Speaker 1: banged up, so you know, when they change teams, I
- 58:50Speaker 1: think you would one hundred percent take a guy if
- 58:52Speaker 1: it's worth taking. In fairness to them, they draft pretty well,
- 58:56Speaker 1: so you know, Kyle Hamilton's a Flowers, Ronnie Stanley. Times
- 59:00Speaker 1: they've had you know, higher picks. They they've nailed them.
- 59:03Speaker 1: So I DaCosta maybe kind of a dick, might not
- 59:07Speaker 1: have been, you know, the most nice guy to me,
- 59:10Speaker 1: but I respect their franchise and how they draft. So
- 59:15Speaker 1: now he's got his pickback. No Max Crosby, I would
- 59:19Speaker 1: I would say defensive line would be would be an
- 59:24Speaker 1: area in which one they could go, uh like mackay Lemon.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Kind of feels like a raven. A little bit could
- 59:32Speaker 1: see that, I guess. Remember Greg co Sell did not
- 59:36Speaker 1: like him. I liked him when I watched him. But
- 59:40Speaker 1: in a perfect world I would draft receivers in the
- 59:43Speaker 1: second round. I would be much more inclined to take
- 59:46Speaker 1: lineman when on that Audie else, see you tomorrow. Peace.
- 59:54Speaker 1: The volume