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The CFL Outsiders S02/E07 (Baby's First Football Book) · The CFL Outsiders

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  Hey kids, welcome back to another week of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain as always your 100 % unbiased, completely impartial and not a million dollars richer co-host, old man, shouting at clouds.
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  Joining me this week, well there's an old football adage that nothing heals you up quicker than a backup performing well.
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  And surprisingly enough, MJ the original
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  is back with us tonight.
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  Hey MJ!
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  I had to check the CFL Outsiders depth chart to make sure I was actually playing tonight.
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  m
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  All right.
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  And it is a rough start for us here because GT was a game time decision and unfortunately couldn't quite go tonight.
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  So MJ2 is back with us for a second week.
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  Thanks for having me back.
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  You're welcome.
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  Thank you for joining in on short notice.
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  We've got a lot to talk about this week.
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  Um, I'll get through the sort of housekeeping stuff.
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  First of all, the, try to update people on my fantasy list, uh, or fantasy results.
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  If you're interested in what I'm doing, I dropped that Thursdays about early afternoon.
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  Once I've seen the depth charts this week, I scored one 29, no, 128.9 and one fairly handily against Joe of the Rouge, white and blue podcast.
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  So I'm at three and two.
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  Nice.
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  Could be worse.
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  We'll see how the season goes.
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  Any week can be a sudden fail.
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  That's about all that I've got, but MJ, you had some news for us.
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  Yeah, looks like after a bunch of drama, Sean Lemon has been officially reinstated by the CFL.
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  He still has to serve his two-game suspension, but other than that, like, he's allowed back.
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  has he been?
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  that's newer news that I heard.
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  heard he was allowed to apply.
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  didn't realize he was.
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  Maybe he is just allowed to apply, but I thought that was just like a rubber stamp.
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  It's possible.
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  I'm not sure.
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  I mean, personally, I think it should be because they say it's, it's about integrity of the game and you can't gamble on it, but it was a $10 bet on his own team.
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  And I know I'm going my usual woke self here, but I figure.
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  If that's going to get you something suspended for long term, then I don't know why harassing a fellow employee for a year only got someone nine games.
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  So by comparison, I've got no problem with them bringing Sean back into the league.
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  Agreed.
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  agreed.
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  right.
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  Other little bits of news.
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  The CFL has now officially released their negotiation lists.
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  They've in the past given us 10 players off them.
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  Now they've given them the whole things.
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  I'm not going to bore you with sitting here and reading through them because there's like two names that you'll recognize maybe.
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  This is, it's interesting.
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  And in fact, I got
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  I someone on Blue Sky that started a transaction list tracker.
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  So they're going to let me know whenever there's a change to anyone's transaction list, which is kind of nice.
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  I never knew I needed it, but I'll have that down.
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  But frankly, I don't see this making a big difference.
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  Very, very few players that are of any note do we ever see there.
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  And it'll just, it'll be something else in the background.
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  Or am I missing something?
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  No, you know what?
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  I saw we were going to talk about it and I didn't even look.
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  it up.
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  I just like it.
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  Do not care.
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  That's pretty much it.
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  a news article that said they were doing this and I thought, oh, okay, cool.
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  And some people who love those depth charts, whatever, they're probably happy, but for me, cool.
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  Yeah.
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  If you're one of the people that's off in the weeds about American college football.
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  and you follow all three divisions and all that, then I'm sure there's a lot there you'll get excited about.
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  But that's not me or most of the CFL fans, I don't think so.
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  Nice you're doing it.
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  Nice the transparency is there, but I don't see it making a big change for us.
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  What else?
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  Oh, we had some big, big, big news for MJ2 to tell us about.
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  Yeah.
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  For the first time, well, and I'm going to come back to that.
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  there's been a touchdown to win.
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  How many times do you see those people's names on the screen and you think, who are these people?
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  And you wish the best for them.
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  And you know it'll never happen.
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  It happened.
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  Apparently though, there was also a winner in 1999, Gizmo Williams and Donnie Ashley both ran back in 1999 to do it for Gale Sinclair.
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  So Roy Lister, congratulations wherever you are.
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  And I know Megan, you had a note quickly about Wooden and getting in touch with Roy, the winner.
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  winner.
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  He made a video congratulating him and then being like, hey, if you want to share some of your winnings, that'd be cool with me.
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  me.
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  Yes.
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  That's exciting for the players to know that you've done something to win people that money.
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  Yeah, saw.
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  go ahead, MJ.
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  I was going say, Enik Malamba's
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  like, I was trying to stalk Roy on social media and he doesn't have social media so we can't even find him.
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  him.
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  If this was me, I would have plastered it everywhere.
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  Well, I'm wondering if he's really a big CFL fan and if he even knew until somebody called.
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  I mean, how random would that be?
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  Just shops that save on foods and happen to randomly pick the right man's Oh yeah.
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  It's incredible.
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  would, I would say, well, first of all, I saw.
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  the post game stuff with Wooden and you could tell he was pumped that that had happened on his kickoff return.
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  You know, that'll stay with him for history now.
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  And I was saying if the CFL and save on are smart about this, they'll pump this up all summer.
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  You know, I don't know when he gets his money.
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  Maybe he gets it now, but they'll talk about it and really keep it forward all summer.
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  And then on Labor Day, when these two teams meet again, fly him out to the game and have
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  Grant and Wooden give him a full, a giant size check at halftime to, for the symbolic Passover.
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  Yeah.
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  That would get them coverage all over the world.
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  So I'm hoping so.
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  oh A little bit of marketing.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Take the easy stuff.
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  Take the easy wins.
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  Okay.
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  oh
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  Let's see, on slightly less good news, also, unfortunately, the Ottawa Red Black, besides losing the game this weekend, lost Devonte Dedmon, their returner.
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  And there's no word on it yet, but I'm having seen it.
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  think it's a season ender.
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  They had to bring out the cart and take him off and it looked like an ankle probably got rolled over.
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  And I don't think it's a strain or anything.
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  It's either a break or a tear in the knee somewhere, my guess.
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  I'm no doctor, but that's what I saw.
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  yeah.
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  So Khalil Pimpleton will be a very tired young man for the next while, I'm thinking, because they were using him for kickoffs and, and, and full offense.
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  Alrighty, anything else on that or?
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  okay, so MJ, you were going to talk about what the family is going on about.
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  Family football talk for the week.
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  Yeah, it's so nice my sister's here for family football talk.
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  song.
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  I'll just step back.
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  I'm so.
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  Quickly, you should tell the story about our aunt.
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  aunt.
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  one of our favorite aunts.
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  She was so excited to join Facebook because she was like, good, I'll be able to catch up with the girls and see more about their lives because I live far away.
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  And she called my dad one day and complained because all we did was talk about football.
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  there's a reason you're here.
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  Maybe she learned something about football.
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  football.
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  You'll wear her down.
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  It's like.
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  So I just wanted to talk about Joanne Pollack becoming the chair of Football Canada.
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  Big news, this is really exciting.
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  For those who don't know, she was the Ottawa GM of the Rough Riders from 1989 to 1991, which when you think about the 80s and early 90s, the fact that she was a GM is just
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  incredible.
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  The CFL finally has female officials.
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  the first, I looked at the first game was in 2019 and it was just for one game.
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  game.
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  And now they have three, they have two line judges, Sharon Airy and Georgina Paul, Emily Clark is a side judge.
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  And the first time I saw one of these women on the chain gang, I couldn't believe my eyes.
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  I was so excited.
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  Like, I'll tell a little story from when I was in high school in the late 90s.
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  the late 90s.
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  The CFL came to career day to my high school to show people how to become a referee in the CFL.
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  And I tried to sign up for it and they wouldn't let me go attend it because I was a girl.
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  was a girl.
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  would not let me attend.
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  attend.
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  That was like 1998.
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  We didn't have a female official till 2019.
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  There's a lot of women who watch football.
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  There's lots of women who love football.
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  I looked it up, the NFL, % of their fan base is female.
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  Like we're watching.
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  So I just, honestly, good job for Joanne.
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  I'm so excited to see what she does for Football Canada.
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  We have an amazing women's flag football team on the national level.
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  on the national level.
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  And it just, you know, everything we learned about football, we learned from our mom.
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  learned from our mom.
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  It's true.
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  On my baby book, baby's first CFL book, or baby's first CFL game.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a great step to see and I agree with you.
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  We need to see a lot more of this.
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  We're starting to see some female coaches even, which is not a bad thing at all.
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  There's no reason that a woman can't perform at the roles of like the ref and coaching and all the rest of that.
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  The only reason that it's difficult to get them on the field is because of the physical difference in size and whatnot.
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  That's just a natural.
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  you can't...
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  Once you get past 14, 15 years of age, you can't really do co-ed football, but there's no reason that women can't be involved in all the rest of this stuff.
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  I think it's great.
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  And Sharon, and Airy, think she moved over to U sports.
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  I'm not sure if she's still in the CFL this year, but I know that she was one of the first women to ever be the head referee in the U sport game.
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  I want to see that at a CFL game.
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  Yes.
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  get the right people, get, make sure you're not doing it just as a token, get someone like that, that's proven they can do it.
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  And yeah, no reason not to where we're at in the world.
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  We're not, I like to believe at least we're not sliding backwards as fast as our Southern neighbors are.
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  And we should be able to keep the momentum going on, this kind of equality and whatnot.
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  Like I said, I.
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  I look forward to the day when it's just not a story.
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  There's come a time when being a woman head coach or official or GM will be the same place that being a black head coach or official or GM was 30 years ago.
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  it was a news story when it happened and we'll go through that.
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  But I could see easily we could end up, 10, 15 years from now with a couple of female head coaches and just them integrated into the system.
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  I certainly hope so.
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  I hope they are letting women go to the career day at high school now.
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  Yes.
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  hopefully the schools have evolved some, I wouldn't promise that.
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  It depends probably who's running the whole thing.
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  But yeah, I've seen way too much of that in my time, too.
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  Just people being.
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  ruled out because they weren't, well they weren't a male, when it comes right down to it.
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  had, when I coached the junior varsity team here, we had two young women that wanted to come out and try out for the team and I said yes and school wasn't exactly thrilled but we
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  went through it and they unfortunately didn't perform quite as well as
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  their male counterparts, but I gave them full credit for being out there and for trying to do it.
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  And it was just, that was those two particular individuals.
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  You know, like I said, at 14, 15, there are still young women that can compete with the men in that same age group.
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  Anyway, that's me, pontificating.
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  That was excellent news.
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  I'd love to see that.
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  Should we, um, maybe go on to the games then?
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  Yeah, let's do it.
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  Let's talk about this.
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  The first one, which I was fairly adamant that Winnipeg was going to win and, I got overruled.
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  So the CFL outsiders pick them, got this game right.
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  Winnipeg 16 at Calgary 37.
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  Anybody have any thoughts to jump in on?
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  I've got the hat in the background.
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  I didn't put it there.
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  But that's so exciting for Dickinson and the stamps and the whole city to win the Stampede Bowl during Stampede Week.
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  I thought that was great.
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  Yes.
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  So what you're telling us is the Stampede Bowl hat is photo bombing you.
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  Yes.
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  You
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  it was great for them and...
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  a decisive win.
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  You know, it's...
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  Their defense really, really carried the day for them with those two pick sixes.
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  It just...
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  took Winnipeg's...
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  well, it didn't take them under the running game.
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  I was really surprised when I looked because I'd picked Brady Olivera on my fantasy team and I thought, oh great, they're behind, he won't get anything.
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  He had 112 yards rushing in 51 through the air.
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  So he got a lot of carries and a lot of yardage, but it just, it was too slow.
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  They're not built to come back from being behind like they were.
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  um.
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  And Mills had a good game too for Calgary.
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  Yes.
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  So if you're carrying.
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  running games, not quite similar yardage, but close, like 18 carries, that's a lot.
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  Yes.
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  And the win.
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  So, you know, it's even better.
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  No, it's, yeah, they, they were running the ball well.
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  I thought their offense was playing fairly well and they just, they happened to get a game where they clicked and the bombers I said last week Zach had the previous week gone off
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  for.
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  so many huge points and touchdowns and everything.
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  And I said, he has a game or two like that once a year And he does.
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  And he also has one like this once or twice a year.
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  And he just, I don't know what it was.
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  He did not look at ease.
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  Didn't look like he was reading what the defenses were doing to him.
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  Just making frankly, rookie type mistakes.
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  I have a note saying that at one point the closest receiver available was Chris Strebler on the.
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  Yeah.
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  there was not a whole lot there.
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  I they, well, I wanted to mention Damien Webb, who came over to, from Ottawa to them this last year.
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  And I was saying last year, he was the second best halfback in the league.
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  And I'm still impressed.
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  They've moved him to safety now.
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  He's not playing halfback, but the way he robbed that one curl and took it in for the, six point, the pick six.
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  That was, that was a thing of timing and beauty.
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  And I also got a kick out of it because I noticed right at the end when he was about two or three yards from the end zone, it looked like Collaros was going to catch him.
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  But I've seen other quarterbacks do this chasing down intercepted.
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  they just don't quite get there.
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  Somehow they don't manage to make the hit.
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  well.
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  no.
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  Oh well.
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  Someone's probably yelling in his ear, don't you dare jump.
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  Don't you don't don't jump for it.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, But it was, yeah, I'm surprised that, well, am I surprised that the Bombers didn't put Streveler in when it was just a complete blowout?
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  Like I had flashbacks to Grey Cup when Zach's hand was a need of stitches and they just left him in there.
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  Yes.
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  And Streveler played the
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  winning, he looked good.
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  Yes, he did.
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  but.
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  If you're not giving him reps in practice, maybe that's a decision O'Shea makes.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and O'Shea is so loyal to his players.
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  He's, he makes some bad decisions like that.
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  He's, he's made, it's interesting.
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  I've seen him make decisions that he admits afterwards.
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  He shouldn't have done, and he knew it at the time, but he just, he couldn't help himself.
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  there was one.
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  last year where, Nick Dempski caught a ball low off the turf, ended up getting tackled for a loss of two yards.
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  And he was insisting he'd caught it.
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  So O'Shea challenged it and the replay showed he caught it.
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  And instead of getting the ball back on the original line of scrimmage, it was now second and 12.
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  And he said, I knew that would happen, but it didn't matter.
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  We needed to prove that was a catch.
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  It's kind of like Dave Dickinson having his temper tantrum meltdown.
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  yeah, that too during a win.
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  You're up by how many scores?
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  You know you can't challenge it.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, we were listening to the game, the last end of it in the car, I think.
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  And I was like, what is going on?
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  There was such a long pause in playing.
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  It's like, oh, it's, Dave Dickinson still.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Yep.
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  Wanting to challenge an, an illegal contact, which we've known for five years isn't challengeable.
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  And what annoyed me is they did, the officials did tell him you can't challenge that and took his challenge away.
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  So it cost him, but that's supposed to be a delay of game.
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  He should have also lost 10 yards on that.
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  I agree.
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  But it was one of those nights.
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  Is it a petty challenge flag throwing this year?
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  Yeah.
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  It's well, lot of them.
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  Him I don't understand there, cause a lot of them are desperation stuff and he had no desperation.
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  They, like you said, they were cruising with that, but I don't know.
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  I was just going to say, have you seen a picture of the big belt buckle?
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  Oh, I heard there was a buckle for MVP, but I haven't seen it.
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  It looks so great, it's got stampede ball on it.
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  They took a picture of VA with a full cowboy gear.
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  His cowboy boots have the number three on the side of the heel and he's got his big belt buckle on.
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  Oh, PR dream come true.
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  Oh yeah.
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  And VA deserves it.
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  He is such a good part of this league.
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  will say that- I'm so happy.
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  I found the whole Stampede Bowl thing of-
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  rather bit of nonsense for, know, a random trophy in the middle of the year, but they're trying to get fans back, so I understand that, but to me it was kind of a chuckle.
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  And then I saw what they were giving away as the trophy.
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  And that looked like that was put together by somebody five or six years old.
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  I want a real bright, shiny trophy.
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  then, and then when they carried it in, yes, but then when they carried it in.
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  And the guy got the guy bringing it in and he's in like a stampede or outfit but white gloves on the white guy come on now
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  I love it!
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  I love it!
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  Yes.
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  I mean, do you touch the trophy?
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  Well, I know the Grey Cup, you're not supposed to touch it if you haven't won it.
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  It's supposed to be bad luck to touch it if you haven't won it.
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  but that trophy.
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  It is stampede though.
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  Stampede is gaudy.
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  It's over the top.
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  It's like a little bit ridiculous.
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  And I just have a note, like it's just, I was kind of grouchy about the whole Stampede Bowl thing.
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  And then I kind of really got into it, Moamba, like racing the cow.
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  And I was like, and they showed it a thousand bits.
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  And I was like, you know, it's fun to have fun.
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  It's like, it's just, and the team, like the team bought into it a whole.
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  The CFL, like the commissioner was there.
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  Like everyone bought into it.
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  was Fred Michaels was there.
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  It was fun.
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  Yes it was.
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  And for anyone who didn't actually see it, the cow Muamma, Ennoc raced against was a man in a cow outfit.
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  He wasn't actually racing the world's fastest cow.
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  Now that I would also like to see.
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  Yeah, so that I think.
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  thought it was because they were talking about it because they were like, you're just going to race a cow.
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  I was like, can eat?
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  Yeah, no, and they were, they were bugging him through the weekends.
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  So apparently that wasn't the, the world's fastest cow.
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  That wasn't the guy that normally wears the cow outfit and it wasn't even his backup.
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  It was the backup to the backup that Enoch beat.
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  a 15 yard head start.
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  Yes, it's one of my favorite things about going to a stance game is watching that cow run.
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  Well, I mean, whatever back bench it is.
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  fun.
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  That was a great game to kick off the weekend for anybody but a Bomber fan.
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  I'm sure they weren't happy with it, but that was just, it got a little boring in the second half when it was obvious they weren't coming back, but it was a great way to just
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  kick off what was a fun, fun weekend.
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  Because the next- And then they had the Stem Peter Bowl, they had the bowl at the parade the next day.
• 22:48
  Oh, did they?
• 22:49
  did not know that.
• 22:50
  I didn't even know there was a parade.
• 22:51
  Oh, the Stampede parade.
• 22:52
  That's good.
• 22:53
  Yeah.
• 22:53
  I guess you would have it on.
• 22:54
  bring the Stampede parade.
• 22:56
  Well, that makes sense.
• 22:58
  always say that the CFL doesn't market enough.
• 23:00
  It's great to see that.
• 23:02
  Yeah, it's awesome.
• 23:03
  Yes.
• 23:04
  And that one, once we got through that and we were still reasonably sane, then we got to the next night, which was.
• 23:12
  had to be the game of the year by now.
• 23:14
  now.
• 23:15
  Yes, I can see.
• 23:17
  I'll let you two tell us what the score was.
• 23:20
  A lot of points, Penelope's many.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:24
  That's about the best way to sum it up.
• 23:27
  Yeah, over 50 points.
• 23:29
  Well done, Ty-Kat.
• 23:31
  Yep, 51 to 38.
• 23:33
  And they look good doing it.
• 23:35
  is not a bad- like if you score 38 points normally you're gonna win that game.
• 23:41
  Yeah, no, I agree.
• 23:44
  38 points is lot.
• 23:45
  It was just one of those games though that it, you know, that they had the touchdown to win.
• 23:51
  And actually, I called that when Grant, I didn't say it was gonna happen.
• 23:55
  But I said to the folks I was watching with, when Grant got his first touchdown on the kickoff, said, that's one.
• 24:01
  If there's ever a game where there's a chance for somebody to win it, it's this game.
• 24:06
  Cause we're early, I think we were early in the second half then, but it was obvious there was going to be a lot more scoring.
• 24:12
  And I kind of thought Grant would get himself another one, but Wooden surprise me with it.
• 24:16
  And just again, great, great football in both of them.
• 24:20
  Nothing, no mistakes, nothing sloppy, just well played blocking and great returning.
• 24:25
  Um, when we were talking the preseason about what we were looking for in the CFL, we were talking about quarterbacks and how we wanted high scoring.
• 24:32
  I just wanted like, can't wait for balls to be aired out all year.
• 24:35
  This is the game I was waiting for.
• 24:39
  Yes.
• 24:40
  Yeah.
• 24:40
  He was my fantasy quarterback and Kenny was who I teamed him up with.
• 24:45
  Kenny and Bo were very, very good to me this weekend.
• 24:48
  Yeah, I had a set was at 19 of 24.
• 24:53
  Well done, Bo Levi.
• 24:55
  That's a good stat.
• 24:57
  Yeah, Kenny and Bo, what a combo when they're clicking.
• 25:00
  Yes.
• 25:01
  And I also noticed after the first touchdown, they had a shot of the bench and then they mentioned that, you know, Bo just goes back and sits on the bench and looks at his pad,
• 25:09
  but they were saying, Oh, but you notice Kenny's right there near him in case, you know, just reminding him that I'm close by.
• 25:15
  And I looked at it and thought.
• 25:16
  Wait a minute, that's not Kenny.
• 25:17
  That's the entire receiving group is all within about three yards of Bo on the Red.
• 25:21
  Not talking to him, but just remember I'm here.
• 25:24
  I'm open.
• 25:25
  I will be open.
• 25:27
  my number.
• 25:27
  So yeah, you could tell they were ready to have a big game too.
• 25:32
  This was the TikTok live game.
• 25:36
  And on the TikTok live, had a show.
• 25:39
  went over to Luke Wilson on the sideline and asked him if this was more exciting for him.
• 25:44
  Yeah.
• 25:45
  They mentioned that in the broadcast too.
• 25:47
  Yeah.
• 25:48
  So TikTok went over and asked Luke what he said.
• 25:51
  Yeah.
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  I guess so.
• 25:54
  Because Luke was all.
• 25:56
  already.
• 25:57
  Yes.
• 25:57
  And Luke was all set up with a full screen, a, it wasn't a 50 inch, but probably a 40 inch screen on a bench down there at field level.
• 26:05
  had him being able to watch the whole game right there.
• 26:08
  So I guess, yeah, I don't know.
• 26:10
  I'm not happy about some of the stuff he says about the CFL, but he's entertaining.
• 26:14
  I'll give him that for the Friday night games.
• 26:17
  He said, you make a name for himself?
• 26:20
  I'm here for Boat-A-Church.
• 26:21
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  And Hey, another thing from the game, both fastest one to win a fast quarterback to win a hundred games, 143 games.
• 26:31
  Did he get this 40,000 yard passing this weekend?
• 26:35
  Yeah.
• 26:35
  as well.
• 26:36
  So he's, think number nine or 10 on the all time passing list now.
• 26:41
  he was, Lancaster was 149 games.
• 26:44
  So he was six games quicker to a hundred than Lancaster was.
• 26:49
  As someone who lives in Calgary and around Calgary fans, everyone had written him off and thought that the Ticats were out of touch for bringing him in.
• 27:00
  But I thought these last couple of games proves why they brought him in.
• 27:06
  His shoulder was toast in Calgary and I think they figured it had never come back.
• 27:10
  And then probably the best thing that happened to him was that first year in Hamilton getting hurt as much as he did, because it gave him a lot of time for the shoulder to
• 27:20
  finally come back with no throwing on it.
• 27:22
  And yeah, the last two years he's looked like vintage Bo
• 27:27
  Yeah.
• 27:28
  um
• 27:29
  because vintage bow, I really couldn't stand cause he was so cocky and, just so in your face about everything.
• 27:37
  this Bo has gone through some adversity and is a little more appreciative and a little more humble.
• 27:42
  They, they, had the, interview at the end of the game where they talked to both him and Kenny.
• 27:47
  And I really enjoyed that because he wasn't thumping his chest about, how great we are.
• 27:51
  He was talking about how good it is to be on a team like this.
• 27:55
  And you think about your coach and you think about the culture that you build.
• 28:00
  And I think that says a lot to that.
• 28:03
  I will agree with that.
• 28:04
  I was not, I'm not generally a fan or haven't been a fan of Milanovic in the past, but he's starting to grow on me.
• 28:10
  the way that he's handling the, the stuff now.
• 28:13
  just a couple of things I was going to mention.
• 28:15
  Plays that don't usually happen.
• 28:16
  There was a play that I absolutely loved it.
• 28:19
  I think it was in the third quarter, but it was just basically a Bell run up the middle.
• 28:24
  And he got about six, seven yards up the middle and the linebacker stepped into him and literally knocked him backwards in the air about four or five yards.
• 28:33
  At which point, Liam Dobson from the, or the TagCats old line, grabbed him out of the air and just ran forward with him until they got tackled and took it back to a first, close to
• 28:43
  a first down again.
• 28:44
  This is also, was it Kenny that was running backwards into the end zone?
• 28:52
  And I was like, that's only fun when it's on my team.
• 28:54
  it's on my team.
• 28:56
  Yes, it is.
• 28:57
  It reminded me a little bit of Willie J when he was still with the riders, that interception that he got in the banjo bowl that I think it took him 10 minutes to run the
• 29:07
  length of the field.
• 29:08
  Once he saw no one was chasing him he just kind of idled back and serpentined back and forth the whole distance.
• 29:13
  ah What else?
• 29:17
  Yes, yeah awful tough to take when it's not but but oh
• 29:23
  Well, that's the thing is, to be an Argo fan, you had to feel somewhat good about the game, the way that you scored so many points, I think I heard three or four different
• 29:31
  announcers or people talk about the Argos basically being the mouse in the wheel, running as fast as they could and just not gaining any ground at all.
• 29:40
  Cause it didn't seem to matter.
• 29:41
  Well, bull's throwing 40 yards to Kenny, it's hard to counteract that.
• 29:46
  Yeah.
• 29:47
  Your defense is right on the field again, right?
• 29:50
  Yeah, exactly.
• 29:51
  Kenny's was, apparently his best game of his career with the yardage and touchdowns he got.
• 29:56
  yeah, looking forward to seeing more of them.
• 29:58
  yards.
• 29:59
  Yes.
• 30:00
  I was also disappointed and I thought you MJ would probably be more disappointed to see that, O'Leary Orange got a touchdown that got called back on penalty.
• 30:09
  I know.
• 30:11
  Yeah.
• 30:13
  Unfortunate.
• 30:13
  It was a good throw.
• 30:14
  Everything was there.
• 30:15
  think it was a holding call or something, And then.
• 30:19
  Sure.
• 30:20
  Yeah.
• 30:21
  Yeah.
• 30:22
  They're getting ahead too fast.
• 30:24
  I think he threw it to, I think they scored on the next one to someone else or maybe that was one of the field goes, don't know.
• 30:29
  I wanted to mention that I noticed Mark Milton of the Argos stopped it from being 58 to.
• 30:35
  whatever, because there was a play with White in the second half of the game there where he came around the end and there was nobody to stop him.
• 30:43
  And Milton laid out and literally it was a shoestring tackle.
• 30:47
  He, he slapped the White's ankle and heel and it was enough to knock him down.
• 30:51
  I love to see hustle plays like that.
• 30:54
  Was it last week where the Argos weren't running after players or was that another team that, or did
• 31:03
  Dinwiddie say, we are finishing tackles?
• 31:07
  It could be.
• 31:07
  I know we talked about BC and Ottawa last week.
• 31:10
  We're both kind of slow like that.
• 31:12
  The Argos have generally been going after stuff and playing, you know, I think that their problem right now is just, they don't have the talents on, on defense they had last year.
• 31:21
  I think the coaching is getting everything it can out of that team.
• 31:24
  That's my opinion.
• 31:26
  But, I don't.
• 31:28
  It's not necessarily an offense problem right now.
• 31:31
  Well, it wasn't in this game because of how things worked out, but other games it's been, and that said, I don't know if getting Wynton and the Chad back is going to be enough for
• 31:41
  that team.
• 31:43
  I was just wondering how much they miss Cameron Dukes.
• 31:46
  they played nine games without Chad last Yeah.
• 31:48
  And he was what?
• 31:49
  He was one, three or four of them.
• 31:51
  He at least had them in the hunt.
• 31:54
  I'm sure they would also love to have, uh, Kadim Carey back who they released, you know, because they're down running backs there now too.
• 32:03
  So yeah, you make those big moves and either they pay off or they don't.
• 32:09
  I mean, Argos suck.
• 32:11
  Yeah.
• 32:12
  It had to be sad with the two T-Cats fans here.
• 32:16
  I figured we wouldn't get through this part without that.
• 32:20
  Yeah.
• 32:21
  I will say one other thing I found really interesting was in the pregame interview, they had Chatfield, who's the DN for the Argos that they traded to Ottawa to get, and he's, I
• 32:31
  think he's had a sack every game so far, so he's playing really well.
• 32:35
  And he said something that I've never heard an American player say before.
• 32:39
  He said as a defensive guy, he likes that extra yard off the ball.
• 32:44
  I've always heard them say, well, it's
• 32:45
  harder to engage and the offensive line can react to where you're coming from.
• 32:49
  And he said, that gives me a yard to figure out where the tackle's going and how to, how I'm going to attack them.
• 32:55
  it's an interesting perspective.
• 32:56
  And he's figuring something out cause he's certainly playing well.
• 33:00
  Yeah.
• 33:00
  Well, you can't tush push in CFL.
• 33:02
  No, no, no, cannot do that.
• 33:05
  Although they do allow them to, to do the stuff down the field where you can all get behind a player and keep pushing them in that.
• 33:14
  And it was like, it's called tandem blocking in the CFL and it's not as fun.
• 33:17
  fun.
• 33:18
  I don't mind it when it's happening like that where you get a running back that's, that's trying to get like 10 yards and at six yards, the whole line gets behind them and you've
• 33:26
  got 12 people pushing back and forth on each other.
• 33:28
  I can live with that.
• 33:29
  I don't like the tush push though.
• 33:32
  So, frankly, we don't need it up here.
• 33:34
  We've got probably at least
• 33:39
  Well, I'd say maybe four that are almost automatic on even like a yard and a half.
• 33:45
  I will say leach rate is not automatic.
• 33:49
  Ti-Cats I didn't even write down his yardage because I booked and was unimpressed and I carried on.
• 33:55
  Yeah, forgot.
• 33:56
  Did he get stopped in that game?
• 33:57
  He might have.
• 33:59
  And I mean, you can't say automatic because Tommy Stevens got stopped in the game last week.
• 34:03
  So these guys get stopped occasionally, usually.
• 34:06
  It's an art.
• 34:07
  Yeah.
• 34:08
  Usually, Andre Liderich and then Stevens and Streb in Winnipeg.
• 34:14
  And even this Quincy that the, stampeters have brought on big guys who specialize in that.
• 34:19
  They look like all of them can probably get it on, on almost anything that's, within a yard and a half.
• 34:28
  Whereas there's others that have been good in the past, but have been getting stopped this year.
• 34:31
  Like Crumb's been stopped and Fajardo got stopped in their game this weekend.
• 34:35
  Good job defenses.
• 34:38
  probably just drives Luke Wilcombe crazy anyway, all these quarterback sneaks.
• 34:48
  I didn't say it earlier, but I was actually thinking, I'm not sure if GT is out this week because of the bad head cold he said he had.
• 34:56
  or if he's just lost his voice from cheering on Thursday night.
• 34:59
  Yeah, Thursday night.
• 35:00
  The stamp game.
• 35:04
  would be in his glory through that whole game.
• 35:07
  something to cheer about finally.
• 35:09
  Yes.
• 35:10
  So, but we're back to the Hamilton game.
• 35:11
  We're just about done.
• 35:12
  Anything from either of you two to finish off here.
• 35:16
  My mother-in-law turned the TV at dinner to make sure I could watch the game.
• 35:20
  You've got a good football family going there.
• 35:22
  Alrighty.
• 35:23
  Okay.
• 35:24
  So, let's jump on then to the Saturday night game.
• 35:27
  This was the one where we'd taken Montreal and BC came back with a very strange win at the end.
• 35:34
  I mean, hopefully the way we talk about these games, hopefully everybody's seen them or you'll probably get lost.
• 35:39
  But frankly, to have the ball on a running clock with three seconds left and you somehow get the snap and get a 12 yard pass and get it down in time for a field goal, that's
• 35:50
  That seemed awfully iffy to me.
• 35:55
  I gotta believe it's real that they were watching the clock closely enough.
• 35:59
  I mean, it's still a judgment call cause two tenths of a second is a reaction time.
• 36:03
  And that's what they said.
• 36:04
  They didn't say there were two seconds left.
• 36:06
  They said there were two tenths of a second.
• 36:08
  Well, Montreal wasn't watching the clock.
• 36:10
  Yeah.
• 36:12
  Well, I just...
• 36:13
  Because they just left him half a second longer.
• 36:16
  Yeah, exactly.
• 36:17
  know, that's the whole thing.
• 36:18
  But while he dove, they didn't take him down.
• 36:20
  He dove and gave himself up.
• 36:22
  they gave him...
• 36:23
  So that's what I'm saying is, you you see him hitting the ground and you react to the clock and that takes more than...
• 36:28
  I know from my science stuff, how the brain works, that takes more than two tenths of a second.
• 36:33
  So it all just seemed iffy.
• 36:34
  But hey, BC put themselves in a place to come back and win and it all turned out that way.
• 36:41
  and it couldn't have happened to a nicer player.
• 36:42
  Sean White is probably one of the nicest athletes in the CFL.
• 36:49
  Yes, apparently his nickname, as same as mine, is Oldman That feels weird to me because my roommate used to be really good friends with him growing up and I've never thought of him
• 37:01
  as Old Man.
• 37:03
  What does that say about me?
• 37:05
  He had some gray in his hair while he was in that interview.
• 37:09
  He's always 21.
• 37:11
  I'm not sure, but there's a video out there that the Lions did with just a bunch of the players walking by and they asked them their team nicknames as they went by.
• 37:23
  And you were getting a bunch of them.
• 37:24
  I guess with Sean, my dad was just, old man.
• 37:28
  He's been kicking for forever.
• 37:30
  Yes, he has.
• 37:31
  And still as accurate as ever.
• 37:35
  There are some very good kickers in football these days.
• 37:37
  All I could think about was like how much people love Lou Passaglia.
• 37:43
  I'm like, why might eclipse some of that?
• 37:47
  don't know.
• 37:48
  I haven't looked at stats.
• 37:50
  If he does, it won't be stats.
• 37:52
  Yeah.
• 37:53
  I think he is because I think he came up through the Surrey Rams junior system.
• 37:57
  But Pasaiglia Sorry, go ahead.
• 38:01
  I said, dad has a signed boot Pasaiglia hat.
• 38:04
  It would take quite a lot to knock that hat down a level in his like, BC line and shrine.
• 38:11
  he's actually...
• 38:13
  Yeah, thing with Pasaiglia was he was a personality too.
• 38:17
  And he played until he was 98 or something, trying to eclipse him is a bit much.
• 38:24
  But yeah, because White is a fantastic kicker, but he does tend to be a quieter guy where he's sagging every now and then caused a bit of controversy and stuff.
• 38:31
  All right.
• 38:32
  But what else happened in that game?
• 38:33
  Well, the Als started out really well.
• 38:35
  They had two long runs from Thomas Erlington and then a basically a wide receiver screen that Tyson took for what was it?
• 38:42
  40 some yards for a touchdown.
• 38:44
  I kind of thought at that point, yeah, I thought at that point this game's going to be over, but it didn't.
• 38:51
  didn't keep playing out that way.
• 38:52
  BC defense figured out what Montreal was doing, kept themselves in it.
• 38:58
  There.
• 38:58
  I looked and Rorke ran 43 yards that game.
• 39:04
  So what's going on there?
• 39:07
  to me, he looked like a competent CFL quarterback, but not the Rourke that everybody's been waiting for.
• 39:12
  He's, he didn't look like 2022 Rourke for me.
• 39:16
  You know, there's not taking any away from not saying like he shouldn't be the QB one or anything, but he's just.
• 39:22
  He still has a of ways to go or there's just not enough around him to be able to let him work his magic.
• 39:28
  He still looks a little injured.
• 39:31
  And why is he doing short yardage?
• 39:34
  Yeah.
• 39:34
  Why would you pay someone that much money and have them doing short yardage?
• 39:41
  Especially when your quarterback already knows the team so well.
• 39:46
  Like those should be easy decisions.
• 39:52
  I'm sure that, I'm sure the two of you still remember quite well them using Bo on short yardage down near the end zone two years ago and what happened there.
• 40:02
  So.
• 40:03
  my God.
• 40:04
  Yeah, I don't get it either.
• 40:09
  Especially with something like an oblique.
• 40:10
  know, where...
• 40:12
  I don't know.
• 40:13
  I do know that the score could have been probably a lot higher for Montreal, but the...
• 40:21
  because the BCDBs were getting beat quite a bit all evening, but they were...
• 40:26
  grabbing on and I think they took three or four longer PI calls.
• 40:31
  And in every one of them, it wasn't a bad PI call.
• 40:34
  they hadn't clutched and tackled the player, he would have been gone for either a touchdown or more yards than they were giving up.
• 40:41
  So it wasn't spectacular defense, but it seemed to work to keep them in the game.
• 40:47
  It was 197 yards of penalties for the BC Lions.
• 40:52
  Yeah.
• 40:52
  And I'd be willing to guess.
• 40:54
  Over a hundred of that was on those four different PI calls.
• 40:57
  Their DBs looked awful.
• 40:59
  Is my, is Benavides still have a job?
• 41:02
  How?
• 41:02
  How does he still?
• 41:03
  still?
• 41:04
  I don't know.
• 41:06
  You're kind of committed to your players at this point, unless they're really, really bad.
• 41:10
  But it'll be interesting to see BC at Edmonton this week and see how that all stacks up.
• 41:18
  Was it GT that was riding on Benavides last week too?
• 41:22
  was that you old man?
• 41:23
  I can't remember.
• 41:23
  I think it was GT.
• 41:25
  I...
• 41:26
  Yeah, he had nothing Yes, we are...
• 41:30
  We are of similar opinions there.
• 41:32
  Benavides never has struck me as being a great coach I know I've banged on the drum on this before, but to hire a new DC and then because of the coaches cap, take your existing
• 41:44
  DC and demote them.
• 41:45
  and say, you're not good enough to be our DC, but you can work for this guy.
• 41:49
  At some point, again, that filters through to your culture too.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:58
  They just, they don't seem to, they seem like a talented team that doesn't really have any rah rah behind them.
• 42:06
  this is kind of like when the Ti-cats got bought by Bob Young.
• 42:10
  They were awful for years because they-
• 42:13
  such that awful culture there that, and it took quite a long time for it to turn over.
• 42:19
  And honestly, not till the last few years really has it really turned around.
• 42:24
  So I think BC might be in a similar situation.
• 42:27
  I think that, I don't know if they'll keep, Pierce after this year, depends on what kind of season they have, but I feel like they really should, whenever they can practically do
• 42:37
  it under that coaches cap is they should be turfing out the rest of the
• 42:42
  the coaching staff and probably they're do a makeover on scouts and everything that you can.
• 42:47
  that kind of culture.
• 42:47
  Jones is available.
• 42:48
  No, no, please don't ever say that.
• 42:50
  No.
• 42:51
  Yeah.
• 42:51
  Because yeah, he would, he could break them for another decade.
• 42:56
  But no, once you get that kind of culture in your locker room, it is so hard to root out.
• 43:01
  Well, I think it was your husband, MJ, who messaged me and said.
• 43:06
  didn't deserve to win this game.
• 43:08
  Neither team deserved to win.
• 43:10
  that's true too.
• 43:11
  They, neither of them were there, were at their best, but yeah.
• 43:14
  Now the other thing is I noticed today that Jason Moss said he figures that Alexander will be back after the bye.
• 43:23
  They have the, they're one of the three teams on bye this week.
• 43:26
  So he says he'll be back for, guess that'd be, where are we now?
• 43:28
  We're going into week six.
• 43:30
  So you'd be back for week seven.
• 43:31
  saying.
• 43:32
  I'm not sure about that because there was one point that they were, they gave a sideline shot after one of the big plays Montreal had made and it was Davis Alexander on the
• 43:45
  sideline.
• 43:46
  And when the play was there, he jumped up and did not the touchdown, but the yeah, like that.
• 43:50
  And when he came down, he grabbed his hamstring.
• 43:54
  Um, he posted an Instagram story of him at a Pilate studio.
• 43:58
  week, so maybe it is starting to improve.
• 44:01
  Well, hopefully, but my experience, I've only ever had a hamstring.
• 44:06
  I've never torn it completely.
• 44:08
  had a bad tear on it from a water skiing accident because I'm not a great water skier, but my experience with it was you can almost not notice that you're hurt.
• 44:19
  If you're just walking around, it doesn't,
• 44:22
  pull there's no hurt to it.
• 44:23
  There's no pain.
• 44:24
  just, you can walk fine.
• 44:25
  As soon as you start to even push off and take like a fast step forward, it just goes away.
• 44:30
  There's nothing there.
• 44:31
  So Pilates may help, but, I hope they get them back.
• 44:34
  Matt.
• 44:35
  Yeah.
• 44:35
  Cause Nicole Bethel Thompson.
• 44:37
  That's not it.
• 44:38
  I, yeah, I, I'm baffled by that.
• 44:41
  He played so much better with Edmonton last year.
• 44:43
  Did he?
• 44:44
  He did.
• 44:45
  Not every game.
• 44:46
  He had some stinker games.
• 44:48
  And you know, actually I kind of thought about that when, when they, when Hamilton was playing them.
• 44:53
  Because Hamilton last year, when he was in Edmonton, went up to Edmonton and I remember this because I was playing fantasy stuff at the time, gave MBT a game where he got, think
• 45:05
  like.
• 45:06
  3.2 fantasy points.
• 45:09
  He got, he was under 50 yards passing.
• 45:11
  He couldn't do anything and they just had his number.
• 45:14
  So.
• 45:14
  I was probably yelling could have scored.
• 45:17
  Yeah.
• 45:18
  Well, they probably were, but that, that might explain a little bit about sort of how Hamilton did so well against him.
• 45:25
  He looked a bit better against BC, but still not what I would expect.
• 45:29
  Well, I wrote down 192 yards.
• 45:32
  I had to go back and double check it.
• 45:36
  How do you expect to win a football game if your quarterback's throwing under 200 yards?
• 45:41
  But I mean, you still had the two touchdowns, but still.
• 45:44
  were rushing the ball a lot either.
• 45:46
  know?
• 45:48
  I was also like jumping and like trying to hurtle people.
• 45:54
  You got injured.
• 45:55
  Have to go on.
• 45:56
  Caleb Evans had to go on.
• 45:58
  And I was like, you only have you and Taylor.
• 46:01
  Yeah.
• 46:01
  Like you can't be just like hurtling people and like.
• 46:07
  Yes.
• 46:08
  Well, give them full marks for effort.
• 46:10
  I'll say that, but yeah, you might want to be a little bit smarter as when you're already the backup quarterback.
• 46:18
  I feel like our mom would say, if you have enough energy to have a fight at the end of a game, you can't leave enough on the field.
• 46:26
  That makes sense to me too.
• 46:28
  Yeah.
• 46:28
  There was that whole ugly thing.
• 46:30
  I don't know what that was about, but.
• 46:33
  It's embarrassing.
• 46:34
  Yeah.
• 46:34
  the worst part was seeing Jason Moss being interviewed and he's trying to figure out what's going on behind him.
• 46:41
  And I have never heard a coach swear so much in a post-game interview because he's clearly not present because his team is in trouble.
• 46:51
  And so I thought, why would you have that interview, TSN?
• 46:55
  Anyway.
• 46:57
  if the guy was going into an opposing locker room, you know, that's.
• 47:01
  You got to expect, especially after you've just pulled out a win like that.
• 47:06
  He's like, I'm going to go say hi to my friend.
• 47:09
  Not the timer.
• 47:10
  You were not.
• 47:11
  If you were, your tone death as hell.
• 47:14
  Yeah.
• 47:16
  And everyone's blaming the bench as being on the same side of the field, like, you know, you know, you know what?
• 47:25
  Other leagues and teams seem to not have fist fights.
• 47:29
  the sidelines.
• 47:30
  out the same tunnel.
• 47:31
  Yeah.
• 47:32
  No, it's, yeah, you're right.
• 47:33
  It's just, it's an attitude of, you play to the whistle or the echo of the whistle as they sometimes say, which is sort of acceptable or do you go afterwards?
• 47:43
  Yeah.
• 47:43
  And if you're, whatever happened in that game, if you think you're making it any better by going and challenging someone in the other team's locker room.
• 47:49
  You're.
• 47:49
  have to think there's some suspensions coming.
• 47:52
  I would certainly hope so.
• 47:53
  Yeah.
• 47:53
  And.
• 47:54
  fines aren't going to cut it.
• 47:56
  Yeah, and I don't know how good a player this guy is.
• 47:58
  He was apparently a second round NFL choice, but he's not playing there.
• 48:02
  we may find, BC may decide real quick that the juice isn't worth the squeeze on that one.
• 48:09
  There's always everyone's key.
• 48:11
  Yeah.
• 48:12
  There's everyone's one, these guys comes up like Marino's another one.
• 48:15
  think they're like, it's like Friday night lights.
• 48:18
  Yeah, no, it's, we don't need it.
• 48:21
  I, yeah, like fighting has no place.
• 48:25
  in football.
• 48:26
  Like there's the one of the one sports where you can guarantee, yeah, things might get heated and there might be some shoving, but seeing that was really disappointed.
• 48:37
  Or I was disappointed.
• 48:38
  to me, that's one of the best things about football is not the pro levels, cause they should have learned it by then, but your minor levels, it teaches young men and women how
• 48:49
  to be aggressive and put everything they've got into.
• 48:53
  what they're doing and then suddenly turn it off when the whistle goes.
• 48:57
  Yes.
• 48:57
  And learn to get that control.
• 48:58
  And that's a fantastic part of that, that sport.
• 49:01
  So, but some people, you know, you hear about it at the pro levels all over the place.
• 49:06
  are some people that just can't seem to get past their own ego and they have enough talent.
• 49:10
  carries them somewhere.
• 49:12
  So we'll see.
• 49:14
  I also wanted to, I was just thinking back to when I said this about,
• 49:18
  Hamilton beating MBT last year.
• 49:20
  I found it interesting in the Winnipeg game, going way back to the Thursday night, that they were talking about the fact that, VA's record against the Bombers is almost spotless.
• 49:29
  I think he's something like six and one or seven and one against them.
• 49:33
  So may had a lot to do with it and may look well for them for the rest of the season.
• 49:38
  I mean, don't forget he went.
• 49:39
  Was it last year or 23 that he went in there early in the season and beat them something like 50 to, to do 12 or so with the bombers.
• 49:48
  my God.
• 49:48
  Yeah.
• 49:50
  was within the last two It GT.
• 49:52
  Yeah, he would know.
• 49:53
  know this.
• 49:53
  Yes, I know.
• 49:54
  But hey, we're, we're got to do the best we can here.
• 49:57
  All right.
• 49:57
  Yeah.
• 49:57
  Why don't we jump on to the last game?
• 49:59
  Move the, move this one.
• 50:01
  quickly, the Alouettes had their Canada flag patches this week and their Quebec patches, so they got them on.
• 50:09
  Yes.
• 50:10
  I forgot to even look for that, you know, but, but I will say though, along those same lines, I've started, started noticing some of the stuff that GT mentioned earlier in the
• 50:19
  season about how TSN's done up their Friday night stuff with more information on it and a board that's easier to read.
• 50:25
  And I do love it.
• 50:26
  I just hope they keep growing and make some other changes for the rest of the games through the weekend.
• 50:31
  One more game to talk about, game four, Ottawa 33 at Edmonton 39.
• 50:37
  Another boring game with you.
• 50:41
  Certainly not me.
• 50:43
  And I got to say the Edmonton offense right off the bat, Ottawa reacted after about a quarter, but they just, they were moving at will in that first quarter.
• 50:53
  It was like playing against the air.
• 50:55
  I was at the Stingers game for the first half.
• 50:59
  I kept checking my phone and every time I looked at my phone the score was ticking up, up, up.
• 51:03
  was like, what's happening?
• 51:05
  Just down the road for me.
• 51:08
  it was a barn burner and, and I think Brown was a little bit rusty from his injury because it took him a while to get going, but it made for a good game.
• 51:17
  And, there was, there was also one.
• 51:20
  I don't know what it would have done to the final score, but there was a touchdown that Ottawa should have had that they, that they got taken away from him and it was Pimpleton.
• 51:29
  got robbed.
• 51:29
  Basically he caught about a five yard pass and it went into one of those scrums in 10 yards down the field.
• 51:36
  And he popped out the other side and burst to the outside and then suddenly went down and the play was whistled dead.
• 51:43
  But when you looked at it, he was under control coming out of the scrum.
• 51:46
  was not.
• 51:47
  down by contact at all.
• 51:49
  And when he tripped, he tripped over the heel of one of his receivers.
• 51:54
  So it wasn't, he was never touched down by contact and he did get up and try to keep running and they whistled it dead.
• 52:00
  might not have been another touchdown, but it would have been a bigger play anyway.
• 52:03
  And you know, what can you do?
• 52:04
  You got to whistle it dead there, I guess, and they go with what they see.
• 52:07
  But the replays had it quite clear that he was, he'd made the right move.
• 52:11
  Oh, did both teams get a touchdown return?
• 52:15
  Yes.
• 52:17
  Yes.
• 52:17
  You know, there's no million dollars for that.
• 52:20
  Why wasn't there a million for that?
• 52:23
  Cause it's only for kickoffs, unfortunately.
• 52:25
  But yeah, that's again, who's going to be the special teams player this week?
• 52:30
  You've got four, four return touchdowns, which was the nicest one.
• 52:36
  Yeah.
• 52:36
  Who had the best celebration?
• 52:38
  Yeah.
• 52:40
  Who won somebody a million dollars?
• 52:42
  that would that, okay.
• 52:43
  Yeah.
• 52:44
  He gets it for that.
• 52:44
  Yes.
• 52:46
  Yeah.
• 52:48
  But.
• 52:48
  I know it's like, there's going to be some really mad special team coordinators and some really happy special team coordinators and some who are like, you did half good, half
• 52:56
  terrible.
• 52:57
  Yes.
• 52:58
  I was going to say some of the mad and the really glad are going to be the same person.
• 53:02
  Yeah, they're going to be.
• 53:03
  There's lots of films that go through.
• 53:05
  Yeah.
• 53:06
  But.
• 53:07
  Well, and it seemed like there was a lot of kicking in this game too.
• 53:10
  So, I mean, if you're not scoring touchdowns and you're scoring points off of kicks, that's...
• 53:18
  And Blanchard's really settled down.
• 53:20
  He's gotten very good.
• 53:22
  He had a good long one on there and it looks like he'll be fine with them.
• 53:26
  I don't know what Ottawa is going to do on their kick return team, whether.
• 53:31
  I think they still got Harris with the, maybe they'll put him back there with it, but if they're using Pimpleton, he's going to be a very tired young man before this goes too much
• 53:39
  further.
• 53:39
  Cause he looked at the end of that game, he was putting everything he had into it and he looked like he just, your mother couldn't criticize him.
• 53:48
  I don't know if he was even, yeah.
• 53:50
  I don't know if he would have even been able to walk to the locker room.
• 53:53
  He looked at the end of that game.
• 53:54
  He left everything he had out there.
• 53:56
  That's a lot to ask from one player who's getting you those points.
• 54:02
  Yeah.
• 54:03
  Now I also thought that- I was expecting more.
• 54:06
  Oh, sorry.
• 54:06
  No, go ahead.
• 54:07
  You jump in.
• 54:07
  Let's go.
• 54:08
  I was just going to say- No, I was just going to say I was expecting- Do we have to do rock, paper, scissors?
• 54:18
  you go MJ.
• 54:18
  I'm giving it to you.
• 54:20
  I was just going to say I was expecting more Gino Lewis drama.
• 54:26
  When they didn't really get it.
• 54:27
  I was expecting it was like his back to Edmonton.
• 54:30
  I thought he was just going to...
• 54:31
  Well, he did his little like thing and then I was a defender on Ottawa.
• 54:35
  I did his little...
• 54:36
  Oh no, sorry.
• 54:37
  A defender on Edmonton was like...
• 54:40
  He did his celebration.
• 54:42
  act.
• 54:42
  No, apparently
• 54:43
  they said he was interviewed before the game and asking them about it.
• 54:46
  And he said, you know, if we were coming in here four and 0 I'd probably be playing that up a whole lot and having a lot of fun with it, but not where we are right now.
• 54:56
  We're here to win a football game and they didn't quite get it.
• 55:00
  they also, they also, like I said, they just, looked out of sync to me all game and they weren't getting the breaks that they could have There was the one where they.
• 55:09
  should have had a fumble recovery on the Edmonton three yard line, but the hit was called unnecessary roughness on the quarterback.
• 55:17
  so Edmonton got the ball back and another 15 yards on top of it and managed to get out of the end zone there.
• 55:24
  It felt like Ottawa could not get out of their own way through the whole thing.
• 55:27
  And if I got anything else?
• 55:29
  one other thing.
• 55:30
  One other thing.
• 55:30
  ahead.
• 55:32
  No, jump.
• 55:33
  Go, go, it'll be an interesting edit.
• 55:41
  We'll see how I make it all sound.
• 55:43
  Go ahead.
• 55:44
  As TyCat fans, we know about Tommy Condell and when he signed with the Red Blacks, I was like...
• 55:53
  well, have fun with Tommy Condell.
• 55:57
  And it's kind of showing he's not very, I don't think he's very innovative in his play calls.
• 56:05
  he does some stuff that's different from what other people do.
• 56:08
  Like if Addison was in there, he would have used him out of the running back three or four times during the game.
• 56:12
  Cause he seems to be convinced that that gives him some sort of an advantage, which I don't really get.
• 56:18
  But no,
• 56:18
  you don't see a lot of difference in his game plans.
• 56:21
  And if they work, they're great.
• 56:22
  And if they don't then, I was starting to say there that I, I think it was in the fourth quarter, there was a play that to me was absolutely perfect because you saw pure skill
• 56:34
  from two different players in it.
• 56:35
  And it was one where Tre got
• 56:39
  some pressure on him, started running around in the backfield and did the trey kind of magic that he does made three or four different people miss him.
• 56:46
  came across the corner.
• 56:47
  As soon as he hit the line of scrimmage and crossed it, Pickett closed from 10 yards out and on trey made a beautiful open field tackle that just stopped him dead in his tracks.
• 56:59
  So they didn't get the first down.
• 57:01
  Edmonton got a field goal out of it, but just to watch two players at the top of their game.
• 57:06
  playing like that.
• 57:07
  Warms the cockles of my heart as they say.
• 57:11
  Just that kind of talent in our league.
• 57:13
  Are we running down on all this stuff?
• 57:15
  Anything more?
• 57:15
  Um, I just want to talk quickly about the, did you see Killam and Ford together after the game and Ford, like they gave a hug and Ford, it just has this like blank angry face.
• 57:27
  No, I missed that.
• 57:28
  Oh, so there was like a picture, so I was like, maybe just a second, but I was watching that post game and he looked so...
• 57:36
  And I'm wondering if it's because maybe they put Cody in?
• 57:40
  Are they not letting him roll out as much as he wants to?
• 57:44
  Yeah.
• 57:45
  I don't know.
• 57:46
  That Cody thing City of Commonwealth.
• 57:49
  Yeah, the Cody thing was rough, huh?
• 57:51
  It was bizarre.
• 57:53
  I mean, LaPolice said at the halftime, you do that so that you, your backup at least gets a few reps and doesn't get too rusty.
• 58:00
  But when both times to do it.
• 58:02
  to say, get if you're going to do it, you want to say, well, I'm doing it at this point in the game.
• 58:06
  So all the quarterbacks know what's going on and nobody's confused.
• 58:10
  But like they said, what Trey was the first one, he was either, I think he was nine for nine still at that point.
• 58:18
  And they absolutely dominated the full first quarter.
• 58:22
  They put Cody in for a series and then that seemed to turn things around and the offense got a lot more difficult for the Elks afterwards.
• 58:29
  You know, not enough to lose the game, yeah, there's, there's, there's rookie coaches making some pretty wild decisions out there.
• 58:36
  And I think it just comes down to being rookie coaches.
• 58:39
  It's a big difference when you're supporting a team vision versus now you are the one that has the vision.
• 58:46
  So that's maybe what Killam's bumping into that growing pain.
• 58:50
  Well, I'm wondering what we'll see the next time they play there.
• 58:53
  Yeah, they have BC at home this week.
• 58:56
  Will we see that again?
• 58:57
  Because part of it makes me wonder, you know, they'd been struggling on offense a certain amount, maybe was in Kilham and the OC there, Mismick came over.
• 59:08
  I'm wondering if in their mind they were thinking, you know, we may have to go to Cody before too much longer.
• 59:15
  So let's make sure he gets some game reps.
• 59:18
  And if they were thinking that, hopefully they will have.
• 59:20
  put that out of their mind after this game.
• 59:22
  Cause Trey certainly looked, didn't look like he was going to set the world on fire, but he looked the best he has all season and you're seeing what he can do when, when he's
• 59:31
  given a real opportunity.
• 59:33
  Yeah.
• 59:34
  He had made 15 out of 17.
• 59:36
  Yeah.
• 59:36
  That's probably one of the best percentages of any quarterback this weekend.
• 59:41
  Yeah.
• 59:42
  Well, yeah, just rough math on that.
• 59:45
  That's somewhere up around about 90%.
• 59:48
  High eighties And sure, only 15 passes, but with the way they had the running game going.
• 59:54
  Oh, that's how you want a both coming together.
• 59:59
  Yeah.
• 59:59
  Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  We didn't even mention that.
• 1:00:01
  This one in tray has like flashbacks of the last few years when people like, he just got jerked around by coaches.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Could be that, yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Yes.
• 1:00:12
  But we, I was going to say that we didn't mention the case anybody didn't see the game.
• 1:00:16
  Yeah, Rankin got two long touchdowns for them on a screen pass and then just a beautiful run that he just, they, they were playing a run blitz where they had everybody but the
• 1:00:26
  safety up to the line and he went through it and was gone and nobody was going to touch him.
• 1:00:32
  Nice.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah.
• 1:00:33
  He's such a dynamic player.
• 1:00:35
  It's nice to see him get going.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  And when you look up Alex News, he's the one whose name is on all the headlines.
• 1:00:42
  that game.
• 1:00:43
  Well, you should.
• 1:00:44
  You should.
• 1:00:45
  You should.
• 1:00:45
  And that's pretty much what the week was that was.
• 1:00:49
  Like I said, we ended up as the CFL outsiders went three and one on Pickham.
• 1:00:55
  Missed the Montreal loss, but got the others right.
• 1:00:58
  Thanks to some people who were smarter than me.
• 1:01:01
  But now we've got to do the week seven predictions and it's a short week because we've got three teams on by this week.
• 1:01:08
  have,
• 1:01:09
  Who all's on there?
• 1:01:10
  Like should be able to tell this by looking at my list there.
• 1:01:11
  Montreal's not on there.
• 1:01:13
  Toronto's not on there.
• 1:01:14
  And.
• 1:01:15
  Winnipeg.
• 1:01:18
  Winnipeg, yes, you're right.
• 1:01:19
  my God.
• 1:01:20
  Winnipeg, so Winnipeg said two buys in the first six weeks of the season.
• 1:01:23
  Because they were on bye the first week.
• 1:01:25
  That's right.
• 1:01:26
  That would I'm going to be feeling that later in the season.
• 1:01:29
  Yes.
• 1:01:29
  That would be the, the, the, the, what the fans were complaining about.
• 1:01:33
  Cause again, I heard Souter on one of the first games talking about the fans were complaining about how bad they got screwed by the schedule and they asked O'Shea about it.
• 1:01:40
  And his response was schedule's perfect.
• 1:01:42
  Schedule's always perfect.
• 1:01:44
  Nothing to worry about.
• 1:01:45
  And I do like that attitude.
• 1:01:46
  I do too.
• 1:01:48
  It is what it is.
• 1:01:49
  We got to work with it.
• 1:01:51
  Alrighty.
• 1:01:51
  So.
• 1:01:53
  These games coming up this week, we've got the newly resurgent Stampeters coming into Saskatchewan.
• 1:02:00
  And if GT had been on here tonight, I'm pretty sure that MJ you'd be making the deciding vote.
• 1:02:07
  Cause you can make a case for both the stamps and the riders coming out in this one.
• 1:02:11
  And I'm going to make the case for the riders and I'm sure he'd say that for the stamps.
• 1:02:14
  So I do think that just being at home and.
• 1:02:19
  One of the things that really helped the, the stamps on that game was they got very good play from their line and VA didn't get a lot of pressures.
• 1:02:29
  Saskatchewan is a little better at that.
• 1:02:30
  And what I have seen about him in the past is he's magic when he gets out there and gets running around and does all the stuff that he does sort of a little bit like what Tre
• 1:02:40
  does.
• 1:02:41
  But if he starts getting hit once or twice in that, it seems to slow him down.
• 1:02:46
  And I'm thinking
• 1:02:47
  the Saskatchewan line will get their hands on him a certain amount and may slow him down.
• 1:02:52
  I think it'll still be a very good game.
• 1:02:53
  I don't think it's going to be by more than five points either way, but I will pick Saskatchewan.
• 1:02:59
  So now the two of you get to decide if you're going Calgary or, or Saskatchewan and that'll be the, the show picks.
• 1:03:06
  boy.
• 1:03:07
  Well, you have the defense having such a great game for the stamps with those touchdowns and VA.
• 1:03:16
  I don't know.
• 1:03:16
  It's hard to against the stamps when they're coming out so hot, but riders are coming off of a bye week.
• 1:03:23
  I could be persuaded either way.
• 1:03:24
  I have no idea.
• 1:03:26
  idea.
• 1:03:27
  Well, you'll have to, one of our rules are, is you have to make a choice on this.
• 1:03:32
  And this week, your choice are going to.
• 1:03:34
  and then you can...
• 1:03:35
  Well, maybe I should say this might influence it a bit.
• 1:03:38
  Your choices are going to count for GT this week.
• 1:03:41
  And that's what I thought.
• 1:03:43
  GT, will say the Stamps.
• 1:03:45
  There we go.
• 1:03:47
  So MJ.
• 1:03:49
  VA's got a belt buckle.
• 1:03:52
  They're coming off that stamp people high they made.
• 1:03:56
  Winnipeg looks silly.
• 1:03:58
  They did.
• 1:03:58
  And Winnipeg is...
• 1:04:01
  par with the riders.
• 1:04:03
  It is also not a home game for them, which can make a difference.
• 1:04:07
  You think the belt buckle travels?
• 1:04:10
  Yeah, I'm sure it does.
• 1:04:11
  Is it just a team belt buckle now?
• 1:04:13
  Well, he must've been the MVP, so he gets to wear it wherever he wants now.
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  And they got a lot of swag.
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  Don't get me wrong.
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  I'm not belittling anyone who chooses Calgary.
• 1:04:24
  This is a very tough game because so much...
• 1:04:27
  There's so much that's just so hard to figure out at this point.
• 1:04:31
  Saskatchewan has had good defense.
• 1:04:33
  Their offense has played well enough to win, but not spectacular either.
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  So yeah, and it may be something to do with the other fellow I share my brain with that I'm picking Saskatchewan.
• 1:04:44
  don't know.
• 1:04:44
  He screams pretty loud.
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  So, um, I'm going to take Calgary.
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  Okay.
• 1:04:50
  I think the vibes are vibing.
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  Okay.
• 1:04:53
  So the show picks Calgary for that.
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  And I'm not even crushed.
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  Okay.
• 1:05:04
  Saskatchewa, or sorry, jumping on from that, Saturday Ottawa goes into Hamilton.
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  And again, given the dynamics, I think I'll let you two picture first.
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  Uh, Hamilton.
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  Okay.
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  Nothing more needs to be said.
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  Yeah.
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  I, you know, the, games go back and forth and
• 1:05:24
  It's not necessarily going to be a repeat of the other stuff, but I do have to say Hamilton at home is a tough team and I haven't checked the stats lately, but I thought
• 1:05:34
  they said last year Ottawa hasn't won in Hamilton for like five, four or five years after they came off of that game.
• 1:05:41
  Hamilton, think I don't, I think Ottawa is going to have to really fight and claw to get themselves, keep themselves in a playoff spot the way that this season has gone so far.
• 1:05:50
  And then, who knows, you know,
• 1:05:51
  When Brown shakes the rest off, maybe he'll be throwing for 450 yards every game and they'll just outrun everybody.
• 1:05:57
  But I don't think this week.
• 1:05:59
  They'll have to deal with Bo and Kenny.
• 1:06:01
  Yes.
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  And that's it.
• 1:06:02
  And if they're smart, they'll put double coverage on Kenny.
• 1:06:06
  Cause that's the one thing that I have to agree with every, but every other commentator I've heard all weekend saying, how the hell did the Argonauts go into a game and say, oh,
• 1:06:14
  we're going to go man up against Lawler.
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  Our guy can cover him.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:06:21
  then after three touchdowns going, yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Oh, was too.
• 1:06:29
  Like I said, fantasy darlings for me.
• 1:06:33
  I don't know what, what they were smoking in the Ottawa defense, but I wouldn't have done that.
• 1:06:39
  Anywho, so then we go to the Sunday night game.
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  BC goes into Edmonton.
• 1:06:43
  This one's a tough one.
• 1:06:45
  Does anyone want to go first?
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  Okay.
• 1:06:47
  Well, I will jump in and say, I have no friggin idea, but we got to call something and it just feels more like Edmonton to me.
• 1:06:58
  feel like BC, I mean, neither of them is going to be on a short week.
• 1:07:03
  BC is going to be on a slightly longer week than Edmonton, but the game is in Edmonton.
• 1:07:08
  BC has just done travel across the country And.
• 1:07:11
  I, like I said, I didn't see enough of that out of them to make me convinced they're going to win.
• 1:07:15
  So I'm going to go with the elk.
• 1:07:17
  same here.
• 1:07:18
  I think if I'm looking at your numbers for offense, I really like how Trey Ford is consistent if they leave him in the game.
• 1:07:30
  Edmonton.
• 1:07:33
  Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  I don't think BC is going to have this DB problem cleaned up in a week.
• 1:07:40
  And I don't think they're going answer for Rankin.
• 1:07:43
  And if Trey's playing just as well, I it's going to be Ux.
• 1:07:47
  Okay, good.
• 1:07:48
  we've got Calgary, Hamilton, and the Elk for that.
• 1:07:52
  And, yeah, I agree.
• 1:07:52
  That's what, that's the other thing with Edmonton is I really didn't know what they were going to do with that receiving core.
• 1:07:58
  Cause it did not look good, but they're, they've got players stepping up and making plays.
• 1:08:03
  know, they're, Gittins Jr has been doing well.
• 1:08:09
  Dunbar has been playing out of his mind.
• 1:08:11
  That, that one catch that he, I don't know if you saw when they had, when they put Cody in for one, met Cody missed a throw outside by about three yards and Dunbar somehow got there
• 1:08:21
  and caught it.
• 1:08:22
  When you have players playing like that and you've got, uh, this culture round, tray forward, it's hard to stop that once things start to come together.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Part of what I say about BC, like I said, they're a very talented team and they, they should be able to win games, but they just don't seem to have the, the attitude.
• 1:08:44
  They, I can't remember the last time I saw a BC player diving to try and make a catch or, or, know, or, or sprinting after someone who was getting away from them.
• 1:08:53
  seems like they're willing to put in enough effort to do what they think they need to do, but that it's not important enough for them to.
• 1:08:59
  That's a mindset.
• 1:09:00
  It's the kind of thing you have to do on a split second.
• 1:09:02
  You can't decide a second later, I should have jumped for that.
• 1:09:06
  There is a Ti-Cats receiver one time who when Danny McManus threw him a pass and he missed it, you know this one, and he just pointed at the ground.
• 1:09:17
  He's like the ball was supposed to go here.
• 1:09:18
  go here.
• 1:09:20
  Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  that's I feel like BC is playing.
• 1:09:22
  Yes, exactly.
• 1:09:23
  And, and I got to say that's something that I've complained about that from quarterbacks before.
• 1:09:30
  I, and
• 1:09:31
  There was a good example of Bow not doing it on the night.
• 1:09:35
  And what I complain about is those ones where a quarterback will miss a receiver by a fairly wide margin.
• 1:09:42
  And of course we don't know did the quarterback miss or did the receiver run his route wrong.
• 1:09:46
  And there are quarterbacks that will, as they're coming off the field, will be motioning to the guy and waving and going, no, you should have gone deeper.
• 1:09:53
  You should have, needed you out there And I've always said, you don't call out a teammate in public like that.
• 1:09:58
  You go to the sidelines and have that discussion.
• 1:10:01
  And then it's good, because otherwise all you're really doing is saying, see, it wasn't my fault.
• 1:10:06
  It was him, he did wrong.
• 1:10:07
  And I hate that.
• 1:10:09
  And then I noticed in the Hamilton game on, where were we again?
• 1:10:13
  Then that was Friday night.
• 1:10:14
  There was one with Bo talking to people like that, but only because they put the field mic on him as he was coming off.
• 1:10:21
  And it was just after they'd taken a time count penalty and they're running off and the receivers are all around him and he's saying to them.
• 1:10:28
  Look on that, you need to be clustered in, get in it tighter, get away from the huddle tighter.
• 1:10:32
  We got to get in and out of there.
• 1:10:34
  So he was given good coaching advice, but it was private.
• 1:10:36
  It wasn't being put out to the, and he was one of the ones that in his younger days was the worst for calling out receivers.
• 1:10:43
  So again, another sign of maturity that's why I've become a believer these last few years.
• 1:10:48
  Yay, you're getting some hoover rolls.
• 1:10:52
  Holy.
• 1:10:52
  her.
• 1:10:54
  I wore Boveralls, well they didn't call them Boveralls at the time, but I wore Boveralls almost all through high school.
• 1:10:59
  I just liked the look.
• 1:11:00
  All righty, so that's all our...
• 1:11:03
  this has been so much fun.
• 1:11:04
  And thank you, thank you both for being here and thank you MJ-2 for being here on such short notice again and coming off the bench.
• 1:11:12
  This has been a really good one.
• 1:11:13
  So, all righty, anything else that you all want to talk about or are we going to sign off?
• 1:11:21
  Okay, so MJ...
• 1:11:22
  Thank you, it's going to be fun, but I think this will be a good one.
• 1:11:25
  So MJ, last week you gave MJ's contacts, are we still doing that this week?
• 1:11:33
  Yeah, if you want to get in touch with me, I know where she lives.
• 1:11:36
  Okay.
• 1:11:37
  So she'll pass along the message.
• 1:11:40
  Okay.
• 1:11:41
  Thank you again.
• 1:11:43
  Now MJ, your social media is in and shot back.
• 1:11:48
  As a reminder, I only accept compliments about the Tiger Cats in my DMs.
• 1:11:54
  You can find me at Sports and Plants happy to talk football anytime.
• 1:11:58
  uh
• 1:11:58
  Good.
• 1:11:59
  All right, Ian.
• 1:12:00
  And I'm of course at oldman-sac on blue sky.
• 1:12:05
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• 1:12:08
  Don't do a lot there, but you can hit us up if you want to.
• 1:12:11
  And we, the old fashioned email, if anybody wants to do it.
• 1:12:15
  Oldman, all one word, dot.
• 1:12:18
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• 1:12:22
  And all that will be in the show notes and stuff if you didn't get them down here.
• 1:12:26
  Thank you for joining us.
• 1:12:28
  I hope we've entertained and educated you a little bit.
• 1:12:32
  And so for MJ and MJ2, this is old man until next week saying, get the hell off my lawn.