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ICKY VICKY! | RHUGT Recap with Dustin Ross · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Raindrops. The Monday Night Live crew is headed to
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  Speaker 2: New York City.
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  Speaker 1: We have a live show on Sunday, September 20th, at
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  Speaker 1: the City Winery in New York City.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Come see me, Carlos King, blue-centric Claudia Jordan, and Dustin Ross.
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  Speaker 1: live on stage in New York City, Sunday, September 20th,
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  Speaker 1: City Winery.
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  Speaker 2: Get your tickets at KingdomRankInt.com.
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  Speaker 1: So Raindrops, you're catching us because we are talking about
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  Speaker 1: our sold-out show in New York City on September 20th.
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  Speaker 1: Two shows, one night, both sold out. Claudia, Dustin, Carlton Blue.
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  Speaker 1: We will see you guys And look, more to come.
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  Speaker 1: So Dustin and I are trying to plan our outfits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. We got shit to do, man. We got, we got,
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  Speaker 4: we got outline items. Okay. That's what we have. We
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  Speaker 4: have things to do, but I'm so excited. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 4: And I just want to, I want to look good
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  Speaker 4: for the people. You know what I'm saying? They came
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  Speaker 4: for an experience. So we have to deliver that. Part
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  Speaker 4: of that is how the hell we look. We don't
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  Speaker 4: want them walking out the theater saying, bye, Ashy. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, Weston, if you don't read the comments, I do.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And you looking good is not a problem.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. That's why I see me in the raindrops.
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  Speaker 4: We see each other. That's right. So, Lowe's, what are
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  Speaker 4: we going to do about Vicky? Let's just get right
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  Speaker 4: to it because I don't even know why we're going
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  Speaker 4: to fuck around and run all the way around what
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  Speaker 4: we really need to be discussing. Let's just get right
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  Speaker 4: to it. Vicky, what's her last name?
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  Speaker 3: Gunvalson.
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  Speaker 4: Gunvalson. Yeah. Anyway, Vicky Gunvalson, who looks like a gun
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  Speaker 4: holster with their long face. But Vicky Gunvalson, Gunvalson or son?
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  Speaker 3: S-O-N.
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  Speaker 4: Son. Gunvalson. Okay. Vicky Gunvalson said that she was uncomfortable
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  Speaker 4: in Atlanta and that everybody was moving all around and
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  Speaker 4: she was just uncomfortable in Atlanta. Why are you uncomfortable
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  Speaker 4: in Atlanta? But you're comfortable in racist as Orange County, California,
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  Speaker 4: which if you go back and look into the history
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  Speaker 4: of that land and who settled there, it'll make sense
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  Speaker 4: why that's not just a rumor. It's the way that
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  Speaker 4: it is out there where she lives and loves. Second
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  Speaker 4: of all, scandal ridden, drunk driving as sons beating people
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  Speaker 4: up as marriage busting up as cheating on your husband
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  Speaker 4: as Orange County is comfortable to Vicky. But Atlanta isn't
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  Speaker 4: in a room full of housewives with security and cameras
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  Speaker 4: capturing everything that goes on. That's one of the most
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  Speaker 4: comfortable environments for anybody to be in. So why was
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  Speaker 4: she uncomfortable? She probably did feel ugly. But she said
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  Speaker 4: she was uncomfortable. And that's what I want to focus on.
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  Speaker 4: Why the fuck was she uncomfortable in Atlanta? What was
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  Speaker 4: it about black Atlanta where these black women are in
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  Speaker 4: center stage running the show? Why is it that all
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  Speaker 4: the cities that y'all brought y'all asses to, this is
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  Speaker 4: the one city that her liniment-smelling ass and mothball-smelling ass
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  Speaker 4: was uncomfortable in? Atlanta? She needed to be trying to
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  Speaker 4: get her hair done in Atlanta while she was there.
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  Speaker 4: That's what she should have been trying to do, get
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  Speaker 4: you a real wig made or get your hair cut,
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  Speaker 4: something with bangs to cover up some of that forehead
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  Speaker 4: and face and them eyes and add a little mystique
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  Speaker 4: and mystery to distract us from the fact that Vicky
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  Speaker 4: is ugly. And I don't give a damn about saying it.
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  Speaker 4: We don't say it this week. She is because she's
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  Speaker 4: ugly on the inside where it counts. She should have
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  Speaker 4: been astute enough and known well enough to know, hey,
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  Speaker 4: maybe if I'm in this room full of all these
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  Speaker 4: black people and black women, maybe it's not the right
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  Speaker 4: time for me to say I'm uncomfortable. Maybe that's a
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  Speaker 4: dog whistle. She should know better. So I was right.
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  Speaker 4: I've been telling y'all I say all that to say
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  Speaker 4: I was right I've been telling y'all I told y'all
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  Speaker 4: niggas I told y'all since day one what time it
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  Speaker 4: was with Vicky Gumbelson and every week I'm proving right
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  Speaker 4: y'all see what this is she don't want to talk
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  Speaker 4: to nobody she's putting out emitting energy you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying that is pushing people away She was over
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  Speaker 4: there stinking. All she was missing was the green steam
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  Speaker 4: coming out of her armpits and the crack of her ass.
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  Speaker 4: And she was sitting there stinking and steaming over in
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  Speaker 4: that corner. Hot. And she didn't look like Jackie O
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  Speaker 4: at all. She looked like a jack-o'-lantern. And that's what
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  Speaker 4: the problem was. And it's not up to anybody else
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  Speaker 4: to make her old. She's a big age. Big age.
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  Speaker 4: Why is it up to everybody else to make her old?
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  Speaker 4: you know, coddle her emotions in every goddamn scene. Don't
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  Speaker 4: nobody give a fuck how she feeling and what she
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  Speaker 4: think about what's going on. Fuck Vicky. The show goes
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  Speaker 4: on and that has been proven with the history of
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  Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Orange County after she left. And
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  Speaker 4: then when Heather Dubrow saved the show and came back
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  Speaker 4: and ran things and Tamara saved the show and came
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  Speaker 4: back and took her spot. Now the show is moving
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  Speaker 4: on along and Vicky was not a part of that.
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  Speaker 4: Her being back is an Easter egg for the fans.
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  Speaker 4: That's what that is. For the fans of the show
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  Speaker 4: to say, oh, hmm. That's the only service and purpose
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  Speaker 4: that she's serving in her role as the housewife of
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  Speaker 4: Orange County. I'm sick of Vicky. She been getting on
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  Speaker 4: my nerves every fucking episode. What is this, five? Carlos?
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  Speaker 4: She been getting on my nerves for five weeks straight.
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  Speaker 4: I've had it. Right up to her pillbox hat. I've
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  Speaker 4: had it up to there with it. I'm tired of her, man.
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  Speaker 4: And she does look like meatloaf. The singer. She would
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  Speaker 4: do anything for love. She won't do that. But she
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  Speaker 4: won't do black. That's what she want to say. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. I bet you are.
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  Speaker 4: Fetishizing black men by Googling Cynthia and shit. I can't
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  Speaker 4: stand her. I can't stand her on this show, man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I've tried to find the nostalgia, the value
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  Speaker 4: in the nostalgia. I've tried to see, well, okay, well,
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  Speaker 4: that was kind of funny when she said that. Well,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that was all right, but I'm simply sick of
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  Speaker 4: looking at her looking like the man on the grits box. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sick of her. She looks like the Quaker Oats man.
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  Speaker 4: She looks like one of the founding. She looked like
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  Speaker 4: she wrote part of the constitution. I'm tired of looking
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  Speaker 4: at Vicky. I'm sick of it. I've had it. Just
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  Speaker 4: like she was sick of all them Blacks in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sick of Vicky on this show. And I know
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  Speaker 4: I'm not the only one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: On my agenda, I wasn't going to start with Marlon
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  Speaker 1: Haffner's entrance. Why? Why?
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  Speaker 4: Why, Carlos? Because you already know why we're here. Let's
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  Speaker 4: get straight to it.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, let's get straight to it. Raindrops.
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  Speaker 1: The beauty of reality with the King recap is we.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go in chronological order. Clearly.
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  Speaker 1: We like to just go off of the dome and
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  Speaker 1: our feelings and the space.
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  Speaker 4: Passion.
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  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so look. I am going to be extremely honest
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  Speaker 1: when I say this.
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  Speaker 3: I felt uncomfortable watching it.
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  Speaker 4: And you and I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't always agree on my reach out, which is the
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  Speaker 1: best thing about our friendship.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: We can agree to disagree and feel good the next day.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to that. But what I will say is.
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  Speaker 1: I felt uncomfortable watching it because to me, it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things where, look, you can always find room for, well,
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  Speaker 1: what if this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, maybe let's look at it this way.
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  Speaker 1: And my job as the moderator is to always look at.
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  Speaker 3: The opposite side. Not the opposite side, that's the wrong
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  Speaker 3: word to use.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at different sides.
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  Speaker 3: What about this point of view? This was honestly the
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  Speaker 3: first time I.
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  Speaker 1: Said to myself, it's so in front of my face.
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  Speaker 3: That I have no choice but to accept what is happening.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't lost on me that this was the Atlanta trip.
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  Speaker 1: It's not lost on me as a Black person who
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  Speaker 1: worked on Atlanta Housewives all the years I have and
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  Speaker 1: who knows the city, Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, you know Atlanta too, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta is one of the richest Black cities in the world.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the reason why black people move to Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: to thrive because although it's still the South and it's
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  Speaker 1: a red state, right? And there's tons of things that
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  Speaker 1: happens to us as Black people because of that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll leave that here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is still a celebratory city where Black people
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  Speaker 1: of all walks of life, looks, shapes, and sizes all
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  Speaker 1: come together to in a celebration of us and the culture.
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  Speaker 1: And to see Vicky, who, because I always like to
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  Speaker 1: be fair and point out the facts, who up until.
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  Speaker 3: This point, we saw her in Beverly Hills. And she
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  Speaker 3: looked comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, we saw her in OC. That's her hometown. Not
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  Speaker 1: her hometown, but you know where she lives. She looked
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  Speaker 1: comfortable there. To see her in Atlanta, the drag show
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  Speaker 1: was one thing.
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  Speaker 3: Fetishizing over Nene's man. I'm like, okay, look. All right,
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  Speaker 3: maybe you do find him attractive. I don't know your type. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you that. But I also.
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  Speaker 1: Understand you're in an environment to where you're in a
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  Speaker 1: row of other.
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  Speaker 1: Other housewives, you guys are sanctioned in this one row,
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  Speaker 1: and there's black people around you guys, but in this
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  Speaker 1: one row, you're with your castmates who are predominantly white,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just meeting in Pedro.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But then to be in this event space and to
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  Speaker 1: be surrounded by the majority of black people, And for me,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what I have dealt with so much
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  Speaker 1: in this business, Dustin, and what's interesting is, and the
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  Speaker 1: reason why I've accepted what I was being shown, I
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  Speaker 1: can't tell you, even recently, something happened a few months
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  Speaker 1: ago where a white person that I know was in
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  Speaker 1: a room full of predominantly black people. And this person
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  Speaker 1: says to me, of course, joking, like, ooh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the only white person in here. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: to myself, and then I said, well, no shade.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine how I.
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  Speaker 3: Felt my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what I thought was so fascinating with the Vicky
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  Speaker 1: thing is, Black people, we.
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  Speaker 3: Know what it's like to be the only Black person
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  Speaker 3: in the room.
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  Speaker 1: But We don't make a big stink out of it
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  Speaker 1: because we are aware of our reality. And we've accepted it.
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  Speaker 1: And we know how to navigate through it. And we
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  Speaker 1: keep it pushing, right?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We keep it pushing. For Black people, it is what
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is. And it's how it's always
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  Speaker 1: going to be. We will never be the majority.
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  Speaker 3: And we get it.
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  Speaker 1: So we've accepted that reality and we've learned how to
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  Speaker 1: navigate through it. Vicky being 60 plus, for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in her life, feeling like the minority in the room.
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  Speaker 3: And it's one thing if you felt that way.
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  Speaker 1: I was bothered by how brazen she was to say it.
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  Speaker 1: I was upset with how she kept saying, I'm uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: and I'm ugly. But my point is this.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: Because I looked at it this way. You saying you ugly,
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  Speaker 1: for me, is less about how you look because we
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  Speaker 1: all know you feel insecure. You and I talked about
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  Speaker 1: how Slade called her Miss Piggy, not Porky the Pig Luann,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Piggy.
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  Speaker 3: She got surgery. So we already know that you're insecure
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  Speaker 3: about your looks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it was the fact that you focus on your
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  Speaker 1: looks and you are a white woman. So for you
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  Speaker 1: to focus on your looks, it was less about your appearance.
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  Speaker 1: I felt you were you paid so much attention to
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you are a white woman in this
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  Speaker 1: room full of black women.
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  Speaker 3: Who are confident, gorgeous, dressed to the nines. And it
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  Speaker 3: was more so about that.
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  Speaker 1: And my last point will be, to add insult to injury,
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  Speaker 1: you first decided to be outspoken about it to Kim Zosiac.
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  Speaker 3: You decided to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: To a fellow white woman because you felt comfortable telling her.
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  Speaker 1: And when the other Black girls were asking you, you good?
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  Speaker 1: You're like, you know, nobody's talking to me. I feel invisible.
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  Speaker 1: It was all of these choice words that I dissected
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  Speaker 1: in terms of, well, imagine what we feel like every
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  Speaker 1: single day when we go to the grocery store, when
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  Speaker 1: we go to the bank, when we go to work,
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  Speaker 1: when we have went to school, college.
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  Speaker 4: When we go to bed, we can't even get a
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  Speaker 4: good night's rest from the hell they done inflicted on
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  Speaker 4: us all goddamn day, making us feel less than. The
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  Speaker 4: thing that happened and the reason she felt so ugly
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  Speaker 4: and was focusing on her looks is because she realized
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  Speaker 4: that she was in a room where she didn't have
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  Speaker 4: any type of privilege whatsoever. It didn't matter that she
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  Speaker 4: was a white woman in Atlanta, so the white privilege
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  Speaker 4: thing wasn't going to work in this space. It's that
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  Speaker 4: she was going to occupy while she was in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: Number two, she's in a room where all these Black
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  Speaker 4: women are on the exact same level and have the
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  Speaker 4: same value to the powers that be, right, as her.
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  Speaker 4: So she felt there was a level set there. Then
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  Speaker 4: on top of that, they're beautiful. And being highlighted. Literally,
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  Speaker 4: the party's about pictures of people. So if she has
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  Speaker 4: a physical insecurity, that couple braided with, I should say,
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  Speaker 4: having no privilege in that room. And then the third
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  Speaker 4: chord of a bunch of black women that are on
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  Speaker 4: the same level as her, her ugliness, I think reflected,
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  Speaker 4: or her saying that she felt ugly, I think reflected
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  Speaker 4: her lack of power and prowess in that room by
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  Speaker 4: virtue of who she is. She ain't used to that shit.
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  Speaker 4: So then, as you said, she did, to bring it
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  Speaker 4: up to Kim Zosiek, the only other white woman in
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  Speaker 4: the room, well, one of the only other white women
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  Speaker 4: in the room, but it was a bunch of white
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  Speaker 4: people in that motherfucking room, a bunch. And them white
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  Speaker 4: women were moving around, doing what they do, comfortable. contributing
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  Speaker 4: and happy to be there.
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  Speaker 3: Teresa holding Marlo's hand. This is my girlfriend. Teresa holding
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  Speaker 3: Marlo's hand.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? Lisa Barlow. All of the other women
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  Speaker 3: were low-key, low-key, not even low-key, high-key.
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  Speaker 1: All those women, all those other white housewives that's a
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  Speaker 1: part of the cast, the Augment Girls Trip cast, They
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  Speaker 1: all were having a ball.
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  Speaker 4: Ball, do you hear me? Ball till they fall. And
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't about whether they were white or black. Another
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  Speaker 4: thing I'd like to highlight is there's a way to
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  Speaker 4: acknowledge the realities of a situation without being disrespectful, racist,
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  Speaker 4: or rude. Prime example was two episodes ago, or was
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  Speaker 4: it three episodes ago when they were at Kyle's white
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  Speaker 4: party in Beverly Hills? And Portia was like, we going
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  Speaker 4: to this white party? Well, I ain't talking about this
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  Speaker 4: because it's white people at the party. It laughed. It
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  Speaker 4: was funny. It's a way to acknowledge it. I'm a comedian.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I do for a living. There's a way
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  Speaker 4: to highlight the realities of life with a touch of
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  Speaker 4: humor that makes it palatable for everybody involved and neutralizes
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  Speaker 4: that element. You know what I'm saying? And whatever the
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  Speaker 4: situation is, Vicky didn't want to be like that. She
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  Speaker 4: wasn't looking to find a way to unite everyone. She
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  Speaker 4: wanted to highlight the differences. She wanted to highlight her
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  Speaker 4: discomfort in Atlanta of all places. It is what it is,
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  Speaker 4: but she's one of many. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: She just happens to be the one that we're talking
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  Speaker 4: about right now. And she brought all this commentary on
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  Speaker 4: herself when she said that she was uncomfortable in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, who gives a fuck? As a viewer,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't give a fuck about her being comfortable in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was rude to everybody else. But anyway,
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  Speaker 4: enough of who she look like this week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Dustin! More?
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  Speaker 4: Gargamel. Gargamel. Enough of Gargamel. We've had enough. Alright.
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  Speaker 3: So Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on this. If You caught the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Or, listen, we are open to other opinions. If you disagree,
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  Speaker 1: if you disagree.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know why.
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  Speaker 4: Carlos is. I don't give a... Feel.
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  Speaker 2: How I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Leave your views to yourself.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck, man. I don't like how
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: she treating them, man.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I think if a blind man saw what was going
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: on and it was, like I said, it was painfully obvious. Mm-hmm.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: really was and um you know I said to Alexis
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Jansen who I'll do my OC recap with and I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: said to her you know getting Vicky twice a week
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: um in this state just isn't as digestible as I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. And I do think,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I do think everyone has to look at themselves and say, is.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: My time up? You know, like, like I, I, I've
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: had a great time.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the opportunity. I, I, I, after this episode,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I really have accepted that this is.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Who you are.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And, um, you know, I don't like what I'm seeing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: And I'll end it by saying that. But what I
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: did like that I saw was when the episode opened
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: up and Marlo Patrice Hampton.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Coming out that truck, Marlo, like, that is, we got
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: exactly what we've been missing about Marlo from Marlo in
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: this episode. She was Marlowe-ing at the highest levels of Marlowe-ism.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: That's adjective.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. She was. That was incredible. The Cruella look
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: from the movie Cruella was incredible. Shout out to the
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: designers and the seamstress and everybody involved, you know what
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, in creating and constructing that look because that
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: was a flawless execution. She looked stunning. Yeah. She shook
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the room.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, she, listen, Kelly, nope, nope. She dropped the last name.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Kelly Potter.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, Kelly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, Kelly Lovey. And Kelly will agree with us. Marlo
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: is the standard.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It was to the.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Point where, Dustin, it was the commitment to the assignment.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to, I'm going to tell you three
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: things that show commitment. First, you said, okay, it's the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Alter Ego party. Marlo was not a part of season
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: two when the original Peach Holders did the Alter Ego look.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So in her mind, she's like, okay, who am I
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: going to be? Coretta DeVille. Coretta DeVille obviously always wore
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: something black and white.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And the hair was, you know, silver, gray, whatever. The
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: fact that Marlo said, let me do.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: My version of that. So that commitment, number one. Number two...
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: it was the.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Commitment to saying, huh, what is my rival going to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: look like, guys? To think about that as no disrespect
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to Marlo, like you're not a housewife currently. And number two,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: when it comes to housewives, people do think of the Nene,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the Charades, the Kims, you know, the Candies, all the,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the rest of it, Portia, obviously.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: People think of those girls, Kenya.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: But Marlo was only a peach.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Holder for two seasons, so we don't see it like that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So the fact that her third commitment after thinking about
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a rival was to come in a fucking garbage dumpster truck?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And a little tea for you guys, because Marlo wouldn't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: mind if I say this to you guys. Marlo paid
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: for that herself. Mm-hmm.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Marlo did not inform production.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: When Marlo arrived, because when you arrived, you called the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: producer to say, I'm here. When they saw what she
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was in, the producer said, why didn't you tell us this?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And Marlo said, I'm here. Dustin, they said, five minutes, please.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: They called cameras and they said, we have to make
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: this big. So my point in all of that is,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: The commitment that Marlo gave the assignment without even being
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a current housewife just shows you that woman is on
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a different level.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Have you seen the original? Look at the reference, right?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you can see this. Look at
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the reference.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Like this is the Cruella from the film, right?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: With Emma Stone.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Yes. And Marlo literally took this and said, okay, let's
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: do that. pump it up 10 times. You know what
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? And make it a moment. The craftsmanship, dog.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Like you can look at it and tell Marlo. I mean,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: it's Marlo. I miss that part of Marlo. I didn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: miss her calling candy hoes and shit and making up
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: that storyline about the flowers and all of that shit.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: That was a lot. And I thought we kind of
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: lost our way. Seasons 14 and 15 with Marlo. But
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: prior to that, she's been incredible. Incredible. Incredible. And that,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: what we saw in this episode of the Ultimate Girls
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Trip is the Marlo that I miss. I miss the
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: way that she had that conversation with Nene, you know, which,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: what was that energy about, Carlos? Do you think Nene
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: felt some kind of way about Marlo being such a
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: big moment at the party when Nene had the entrance
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: plan being carried in by the men? Do you think
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: there was some clashing there? What do you think they
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: hadn't spoken about?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Marlo, okay.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: So, no, I will go on record saying it had
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. Marlo and Nene.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: So, obviously, First of all, a little.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Sidebar, because I was going to say the years that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Nene's been on the show and off the show, the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: same with Marlo. But before I get to that, because
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it just came to my mind, to see Sharae's tenure
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the screen and the gaps, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't need y'all to play my girl.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: The gaps, y'all tried it. Don't put me playing with
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Sheba Sharae. I didn't need season one through four. Eight
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to ten. 12 through, I said.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: She's had intermissions. She has had intermissions, for sure.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, don't think about Shemasha Ray.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, back to.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Nina and Marlo.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Nina and Marlo, a lot of their stuff is off-camera stuff.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Like, stuff they were dealing with in Atlanta. You know, like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: some Atlanta shit.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So, that's why when you saw them together, what was
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the point of that conversation was Was more so about
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: them both acknowledging that they haven't spoken in a minute
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and they were trying.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: To sort of like get respect.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And to your point, though, I appreciated the maturity of
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the conversation because Marlo and Nene, when I say this
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to you, bro, I mean it. And you have siblings
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like me. Marlo and Nene are literally sisters.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: They fight, they love each other, they get along.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't, but the love is always there.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: And what I love about seeing Marlo and Nene was more.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So about the fact that you could tell they both
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: have this respect for each other.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So I think Nene was like, okay, bitch. Bitch, what?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Look, I know we'll get to Lisa in a second.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But what I will say is, and maybe I'm the minority, Dustin,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: would love to get your thoughts. It made me miss
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that group of women together.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: For sure. We fell in love with that group of women.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't think you're alone in that. Maybe there's
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a room for, I hate to use the word that
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: everybody's using, but a legacy quote unquote version of Atlanta
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: where we reprise these women as reality stars in some way,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: meaning the original cast and maybe some going along the way,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying? Bring them back into a
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: different like show for them specifically. Maybe that could exist,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: but I believe the ship of the Real Housewives of
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Atlanta has progressed, evolved and moved forward. So I think
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: that those women could be configured into something else that
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: would be just as entertaining because they have value. They're
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: entertaining women. They're good television personalities. So let's figure out
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: a different way to harness their talent. You know what
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I'm saying?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I think a legacy would be so dope. And we
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: know that E is doing one with the Golden Line.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I think an Atlanta version of that would just.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Be off the chain. So Nene had her own entrance.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And she's being carried by these hot guys. And it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: pretty much her queendom, right? Portia introduces her as her queendom.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Let me know if you thought this, and maybe because
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm too close to it, that I could be alone
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: in this too, Dustin. But when Nene was being carried
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and being adored, and she said her speech, in that moment,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I felt like, I wonder how Kim and Sharae felt.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Because they all start together. Now look, Nene, in my opinion,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: is the greatest housewife of all time. But that doesn't
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: take anything away from the the work that Kim and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Sharae did to make the show successful. And I love
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that Nina Gable's girls are props.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Lisa, we'll look at you in a second.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: But in that moment, tell me, did you also think
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: about them? Is it weird for Kim and Sharae to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: look up and see this happen, knowing that they all
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: started together?
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Only if their egos are ones that would make them
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: have those sort of reflections on them.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Moment.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: If you a real motherfucker and you confident in your
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: shit and if somebody is truly your friend, well, at
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: least for me, I don't be feeling jealousy in any
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: way in life, generally. I hate jealousy and envy. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: if one of my friends is having a moment, the
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: last thing I'm going to think of is we You know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: like say we work together every Monday night. Say you
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: got nominated for a hosting award for Monday Night Live.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I would be happy for you. You know what I'm saying?
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be feeling like, damn, I'm happy for him.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: But that really could be me or whatever. I wouldn't
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: even like I'm just not wired that way. So I
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: would assume that. And that's not saying that, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: people can't have their natural emotions or whatever. I'm just
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: talking about myself. i don't i don't you know i'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: not even like that so at all so maybe they
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: um i would hope that they didn't have those feelings
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: but if they do it's their own fault because they
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: kiss nini's ass all the time they they they um
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: they they coddle her emotions they feed into that you're
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: the queen thing that that people have taken and run
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: with this this in um unofficial ranking or pecking order
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: shit mentality. I'm the queen of this. You said pecking,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: not pegging.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: You said pecking?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Pecking, not pegging. Okay, nah. For that, you can holler
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: at my good sister, 4CorePumps, on Instagram and her hit podcast, okay? Decisions, decisions. Now,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: you got to plug my girl. Now, they, they play
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: into that. And Nene played into it to her own detriment, unfortunately.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: And that's why I was really, I was like, man,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I wish she wouldn't have said that when her and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Marlo finally had their conversation and piece shit up or whatever.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: And she was like, remember, we was the best duo, bitch,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the best. Why is everything always, um, you know, relegated
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: to a competitive, you know, thing with her, everything becomes like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I'm the best y'all ain't good enough for Ours was
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: the best. I'm the most. Everything's a competitive. Everything has
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a competitive slant with her when it comes to the housewives.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: And I wish she would stop that because she does.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Nene has a history and an undeniable impact on the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Real Housewives world, period. Let alone Real Housewives of Atlanta.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: She doesn't have to say that. She don't even have
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: to feed into that. And right now, coming back into
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: this space. Some humility would look, you know what I'm saying? Really,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: really good on her. And so even though it was harmless,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: light fun she was having with Marlo, I don't want
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: to see her doing that because that's what got her
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: in this situation in the first damn place is that
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: sort of attitude. So I hated to see that. But
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: that was by far outweighed by my happiness to see
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: her back on my TV. Again, this is a petty thing.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just me. But seeing her in a scene
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: with that little Bravo logo in the corner just made
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: me feel good. As a person that has always loved
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I just was happy to
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: see her on that screen. I was.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. How did you feel about her speech?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Once again, she literally said to Kim and Sharae, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: could not do this without you.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Which I was like, because again, I was fucking there. Mm-hmm.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: As Nene breakout star, and she's the queen of reality television,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: not just Housewives.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: To me, it meant the.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: World to me that she acknowledged Kim and Sharae in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a way of saying, I could not do this without
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you because there is no I in team. So I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: love the fact that she acknowledged two women that definitely
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: To me, they were the trifecta.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: They just were.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Nene versus Kim and Nene versus Sharae
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: are the conflicts that made that show what it was.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: It just is what it is. Nene and Kim's falling
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: out and Nene and Sharae's falling out. That echoed through
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: seasons of that show. The party. Sharae not letting her
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: come in the party. Nene and Kim, every time that
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: they fucking got into it, all the way up until
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: they still had quotables all the way up until season
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: fucking 10. Where is your scooter? That was 10 seasons in.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: And their feud can still be the source of emotions
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: that inspire quotes like that. You know what I'm saying?
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: So that was what they call it, lightning in a bottle.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: That's what that was. Nene, Kim and Sharae for sure.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: So I appreciated her mentioning it. I didn't give a
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: fuck that she forgot about Lisa. I was about to
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: say Lisa, right?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, Dustin.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't give a fuck that she forgot about Lisa Wu.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't give a fuck that she forgot about Lisa Wu.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Who cares? You know what? Lisa Wu had multiple seasons
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: on that show to show and prove. Two seasons. Nothing
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: ever really came from that. She was posturing the entire time,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: painting a picture of having all these businesses and heart
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to heart baby and the jewelry and real estate and
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the Hummer and all that shit, all of that fell apart.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Then you picked her up, threw her a bone and
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: included her in one of your projects where she under-delivered again.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And you know it, you
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: can't say it, but I can. And so now she
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: comes back over here onto the Housewives, right? On the
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Ultimate Girls Trip 20th anniversary, being there alone, It's such
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: an honor to be recognized with the fact that they said,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: let's go get the ones that started this shit when
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: we do Atlanta. And they got her just like they
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: did in other cities. You know what I'm saying? Remember
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: with the housewife nobody knew in Orange County when they
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: was out in the one from OC that nobody knew.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: They're going back to season one type shit. Sit in that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Let that be your, you know, yeah, let that be your.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Let that be enough and let your personality show be funny.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Mix and mingle with these other ladies. You have so
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: many different choices that you could have made in that room.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: But what does she do? Argue with Nene over some bullshit. Drunk.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Face swole up because of alcohol.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Drunk.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: No. Another bad choice. I'm sorry. There's a lot of
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: different things that people can do in this world and
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: find joy in. I know Lisa will express like passions
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: for a whole lot of other shit. So I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: that means that there's a whole lot of other things
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that she can do than be a reality television personality,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: at least in this capacity. Maybe there's another format that'll
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: work for her. Maybe they can put her on. So
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I think low key, this probably won't happen. The likelihood
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: of this happening is less than likely. She'd be good
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: on the traitors. She would, you know what I'm saying?
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: But leave Carlos is so funny.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: No, I'm thinking. No, no, I'm thinking.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: No, don't do that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Leave with my girl. I'm thinking.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Carlos, well, do something else because the housewife ship has sailed.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: The television personality ship is dead.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, you can't hang me off the drive. Look, nothing.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Another one bites the dust.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'm thinking, okay. Listen, I'm a real producer.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I'm imagining this is why this is why it should
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: be happening.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Because when you said it, I'm like Raven Baxter.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: When she's staring at you. You had to think of,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: let me see.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm picturing her at the round table. And
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how'd she do that?
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: You can see her sitting up there with her hands
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: like this. You know, she be doing what she do. Yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: put her on there. And we want to revive her
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But that shit that she did in
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: this episode in Atlanta ain't going to cut it. Don't
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: nobody want to see that. And that's why Nene gave
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: it literally zero interest. Talking about, girl, I don't do
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: these kind of scenes. Excuse me. Lisa, it's not a
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: good look, ma'am. It's not a good look. And I
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: watched all your shows. We've been friends for many years.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I've been supporting your work for a long time because
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I'm that kind of friend. And I remember how she
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: fumbled that ball on your show, Hollywood Divas. I remember that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And then people was mad she was on there anyway.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Because they was like, why is she even cast on
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: this show? And remember, she was because she was a
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: reality star. But she had presented herself as an actor.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: She was in a few Roger Bob movies.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, she was. Yes, she was. And so, yeah, I
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: just remember all that. So you had your second chance, mama.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, look. I think this, Dustin, I think in Lisa's defense,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: if I may, if I may, and it's the reason
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: why I brought up this. Why am I doing this
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: today of all days?
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Look, shit, man. It's Labor Day, man. We're going to
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: do some heavy lifting today.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. My wig flew off.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: This is how I feel.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I think in Lisa's defense, right?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: She was drunk?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: No, it's what we talked about earlier.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I think some, not all, I think some people want
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the acknowledgement.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: But So I think in her defense, she wanted to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: be acknowledged because nobody wants to be forgotten about.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: In Nene's defense, I do believe Nene when she said,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't see you.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't know you were coming. And I forgot. Nene
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: was not lying. Like, Nene is telling the truth. She forgot. Yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: I believe her too.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I think Lisa Wu, look, I don't know what it
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: feels like to start It is the biggest Black female
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: ensemble ever created.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: It's just Atlanta Housewives is.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, Dustin, what it's like to be
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: a part of it for the first two seasons. It's
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: one thing to me to be like Kim Fields.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: To do one season.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to be like our girl Claudia did
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: one season. I think, you know, meaning, so one season
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: they did, one was seven, one was eight.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: The show has been on for years. I think there's
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: something when....
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: You start something.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Big.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And then no one acknowledges you. I think that I
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: don't listen. I don't know how that feels, but I'm,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: but I'm.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Like Effie and dream girls.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: See magic.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Don't have a father.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: So I think it's giving me FBT. So my point
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: is I am like you. I don't have a jealous spirit.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I don't have a... Hell no. I.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Listen, what people... You know this about me. I get
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: my rocks off seeing my friends win.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And me doing whatever I can to help them. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: take pleasure in that. So, I think... I think Lisa
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: was in her feelings. I think Nene handled it perfectly.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Perfectly. She looked and she walked away... And even seeing Sharae.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Be like, come on, Nene.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Now maybe, you know, she felt, you know, a little outside.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That whole moment, I'm like, I miss these girls on
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: my screen.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: And I think to your point, if we can get
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: a legacy version of that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Let's do it, man. Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Let's do it. And I thought it was so funny
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: when Nene was like, shit, I can't remember shit. I'm old.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I don't remember what the fuck I did 10 minutes ago.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Nene is just naturally funny as hell. That's just, She's
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: just naturally funny. She's not even trying to be. She's
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: just funny. And that is why we love watching her
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: on TV. That's why, man. Shout out to Paris Shea, too,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: because Paris Shea had her looking beautiful at that party. Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Yes. And shout out to your twin, 50 Cent. I said,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: is Dustin? Listen to me. He was.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailey was 50 Cent, but she was giving me
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Dustin Ross.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So, Dustin... The.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Fact that everybody wanted to sleep with Cynthia, even her
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: best girlfriend Luann, I.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Thought that was comical.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And the fact that Cynthia kept the character going.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: All night, like the pro that she is. She loves
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: shit like that. Cynthia loves that kind of fun. She
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: loves doing creative things like that. And Cynthia is just
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: funny as hell. And also, Cynthia is a motherfucking supermodel.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: And when you that kind of pretty, you look pretty
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: and beautiful in whatever the iteration is, right, or whatever
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the presentation is. So she turned into a fine nigga
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: when she put that male costume on, and it's so
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: funny to me. That just show you how pretty Cynthia
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: actually is. Like, she's just beautiful, man.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: No, stunning, stunning, stunning, stunning. We got to get into
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: these Salt Lake City girls.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, wee, because they sure got into each other, didn't they, Carlos?
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Babe.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Goddamn. B, first of all, if you ever thought they
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: were faking it, that shit is real deal Holyfield.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So Angie tries to hug Lisa Barlow.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Lisa Barlow is gridlocked like this. She's not hugging her back.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: She's like, you know, whatever.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: They get into an argument because they just taped the reunion.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: During that time of filming.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So Lisa is upset that Mary, Angie, and Whitney was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: talking about her face, alleging she got plastic surgery. Our girl,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Teresa Giudice, who had Lisa's back like.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: A real sister, is like, what the hell?
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: You talk about somebody's look. That's not good.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: That's not good.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: But to see how Heather was on the attack to Lisa,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Lisa's crying. What were your thoughts about all of that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: before I get to Kyle stepping in?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I have several thoughts. Number one, I love Salt Lake City.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I do. I love the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I also understand that they're a one trick pony. That
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: show works because they're willing to go all the way
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: there in conflict. They're looking for a scandal. They're looking
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: for whatever they'll say, make whatever sort of. salacious, they
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: are cut. The best word I can use to describe
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is that they're cutthroat.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: And they're always looking for a big, you know, crescendo
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: moment when that, you know, as a result of an
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: investigation of some sort, or they're always looking to uncover
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: some sort of secret or lie or somebody's backstory. It's
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: just a very dark franchise to me, right? And I'm
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: not saying that in a negative way. I'm just speaking
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: on like what has taken place that has given that
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: franchise its notoriety, right? And so I wasn't surprised that
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: they were going at it again, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: And even in this environment where they were talking to
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: other people and mixing and mingling with the other housewives,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: because those ladies been around, what, Carlos, seven years now? Six,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: seven years, yeah. So that's a few Bible cons. That's
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of press opportunities where they're familiar with the
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: other housewives now, you know what I'm saying? But even
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: in that environment, they get into it. And Lisa painted
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: this picture as if she was the pinata of Salt
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Lake City. Like, they had just been beating her until
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: something came out. They beat her until they were satisfied, right?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: But that's not true. If you watch the show, you
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: already know that that's not true. Lisa would be starting
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: so much shit on that show and saying whatever the
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: fuck she wanted to say. Let's not forget that hot
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: mic moment.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: So.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: So seeing all of that, only for her to then
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: piss everybody that had her back off, had her back
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: right off in the next scene. I thought, see, lesson learned, ladies.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: And Portia and Teresa both are smarter housewives than that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: They should have known. OK, yeah, this girl been cool
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: with us. We're not going to help her cast go
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: at her. But there could there could obviously be more
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: to this story. You know what I'm saying? Especially two
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: housewives who've been on the other side of everybody is
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: against me, right? And they felt like they had more
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: to their stories when it was their turn. So, like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just was like, damn. I mean,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I guess they doing it for the show just to make, like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: interesting fodder for the show. Like, well, I'm going to
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: have Lisa's back. I don't care because I like her.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: But Lisa's not an angel. Lisa is not, in Portia's words,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Lisa is not perfect by far. And so, and you see,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: They defend her one day and then the very next
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: day she's late because she was waiting on her glam
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and didn't give a fuck and said, I'm not apologizing
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: until I feel like it's sincere. So I'm gonna wait
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: till the end.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Which shocked the shit out of me. And it's funny
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: because you and I are avid viewers of Salt Lake City.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I find Lisa Brallow to be very, listen, to your point,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that cast is known for conflict and comedy.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: They do both very well.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Listen, I watched the reunion. You did, too.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Baby, Lisa and Meredith, to me, tag-teamed that other cow.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: So, to me, Lisa and Meredith won the reunion? To me.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: They were straight. Seemed like they was all right to me, too.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So, I definitely think, listen, Lisa, to me, was definitely
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: playing up to her ultimate girls' trip cast.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they're mad at me. I did
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong. I'm having fun.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: And to your point, I think the girls are sort
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of like, okay, I guess. And I also think this.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I think because, and I'm going to get to what
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Portia said that made me be like, Portia clocked it.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But for Teresa, I think because Teresa knows what it's
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: like to have the entire cast.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Go against each other. Multiple times, multiple different casting races.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: The first decade of the show, I think Lisa just
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: felt like maybe this is happening to Lisa, right?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I think that's how Teresa felt.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Portia, when she said, child, because sometimes I'd be defending
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the wrong.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Person, they wrong, and I'd be like, Portia Nelson, like,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I have a history of being on the wrong side
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: of history.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: So look, I ain't trying to like, for real, for real,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: for real, have Lisa's back.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: But one thing I want to ask you, because I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: thought this shit was funny when Kyle was like, what's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: And Eva, like, she said her husband was circle jerking.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, a circle jerk? What is that? Dustin,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: can you explain to the audience the right thing?
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: My very conservative listeners. What is a circle jerk?
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. So a circle jerk is when a group of
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: men get in a room and sit around and masturbate together.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: It doesn't always mean that they're touching each other. Sometimes
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: it does. It may or may not mean that they're
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: touching each other or touching other people. But it's a
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: room full of men masturbating. And they call it a
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: circle jerk because essentially it's like a people group sitting
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: in a circle. Because I guess that's what people think
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: you do when you get together in a group. But
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: in jerking, they're dicks. Jacking off. That's what it is.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: It's Patreon. So, yeah. That's how I talk for real, y'all. So, yeah,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? They
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: get together and jack off. Okay. And so accusing someone's
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: husband of being part of that. implies that they're a
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: freak they into some sort of like secret sexual behavior
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: that may or may not include some homoerotic or homosexual
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: elements you know it just calls a lot of things
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: in a question without actually posing the question so that's
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: why people use it to insinuate that well you know
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: he being circle jerks oh well damn is he gay
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: is he bi they swing are they open it just
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: it's a floodgate of questions after that so that's what
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: that is but you like that carlos.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I do. Mm-hmm.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: So there you have it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Dustin, thank you for your education.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: You're welcome.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Giselle reads Lisa for Phil on that
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: bus because I don't think the world knows this and
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: maybe Dustin, you don't maybe remember, but I.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: It's funny. So that weekend in Atlanta for... days. It
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: was an impossible snowstorm. So people were at the grocery stores.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: The shelves were empty because everybody in Atlanta had to
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: stay at home. I actually was supposed to interview a
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: little team on my Patreon.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I was scheduled to interview Dr. Simone and Cecil.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, really? That same weekend, huh?
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: And Lizzie was with me at the time.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Love you, Lizzie.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And maybe the day before, she said, Carlos, I just
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with you flying to Atlanta for this interview.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be... You shouldn't risk it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Long story short, I had to cancel, but then Dr.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Simone and Cecil had other travel arrangements, so we never
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: could get the interview.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: So my point in saying all that is it wasn't exaggerated.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: So Giselle's passion for the lateness really was because.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: And she's not lying. She's not lying. If they missed
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: that flight.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: They were fucked.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: They were fucked.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Flights were grounded. It was an insane weekend. And I'm
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: shocked that they pulled off the alter ego party. But again,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: typical Atlanta.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: It was maybe... this much.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Snow on the ground right and they're acting like it's
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: the polar vortex and shit yeah so that was.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: That uh okay the last thing we have to get.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Into okay potomac yes and my disappointment yes in the
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: fact that um i know for a fact that giselle
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: candace and ashley had a little situation we didn't see
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: it And listen.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not happy.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It was when Giselle, first of all, listen, to be
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: committed all night with this microphone, Giselle.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Hilarious.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: She stayed in character.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: So to talk, she brought Stacey, shock, she brought Stacey
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: to the couch, Ashley... Robin, and she marvels at the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: fact that Robin, Ashley, we're.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: The OGs, and Stacey like, okay. And then they reminisce.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Candace is nowhere to be found.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Candace clearly tipped by a producer, shout out producers, said,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: go over there. She realizes y'all having a ponderosa of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Potomac without.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Me, that's crazy. Candace walks by Giselle. Giselle looked at
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Candace like, and would not give her nothing.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: They played these flashbacks of Potomac's greatest hits.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: And then you saw.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: This odd moment.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: You're there, you're there, you're there. Whatever that Candace and
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Ashley were saying to one another that made no sense.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Listen, choices were made in the editing bay.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm not sure why those choices were made, but
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: they were made. And this is one of the times,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: sometimes you can know too much about shit, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: and it ends up, decreasing the enjoyment, right? And this
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: is one of them times where I wish I was
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: aloof to a lot of the production knowledge that I have,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: because I know that took place and I know that
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: it was chosen not to be included. So now there's
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: a disappointment that you just expressed that exists, right? Where
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: if we didn't know anything about that, or if we
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: didn't know how television production worked and how to put
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: an episode of television together, we would not have noticed.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: that there was a random exchange between Ashley and Candace
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: that had not been explained. I wish I was stupid.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I wish I was because
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: now I'm over here like, fuck, what the fuck happened?
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Why didn't they show that shit? I wanted to see that, man.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: And we haven't gotten a new Candace argument in a
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: couple seasons because she's been gone and that was one of, listen,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: love her or hate her, Candace is a verbal assassin
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: because she's smart. And she's articulate and well-read. And she
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: knows how to use language in whatever way that she
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: wants to. And I respect that because I know my
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: way around the source as well. And so I'm upset
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: that we were robbed of that. We should have seen
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: her cussing her ass out because I know that's what
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: she did.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: She did.
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  Speaker 4: No, they had a moment.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: They had a moment.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: And I was not happy. And I still don't know
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: why they didn't choose it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: But they did it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: But the last thing is, I thought it was nice. Dustin,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: can you tell me your thoughts?
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Okay. I feel like you already know my thoughts, but
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know the questions. So let's see.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Ashley said to Giselle, there will be no us without Giselle.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: She is the glue that keeps us together.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, you were right. You were right. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Ashley proved it. Listen, and I will say this. Karen
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: is running shit now over there at Potomac. But when
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: that show came on, Giselle was the star of the show.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: She was the reason we watched. We didn't like Karen
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: at first. We didn't start liking Karen until what? The
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: third or fourth season, something like that. Season four. I
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: think season four is when everybody really started fucking with Karen.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Seasons three and four, I
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: think are when we really started like liking Karen. And
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: then she just became, she just took over as the,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: as the, the, you know, running the show, the queen
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: of the show, because Giselle started pissing everybody off. But
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: when that show first came on, even with Giselle, her
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: having bad behavior and all of that, she was the
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: star of the show. It wasn't Robin. It wasn't anybody.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: It wasn't Ashley. They were all great in their own rights.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: But when it came to the reason we watch, it
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: was Giselle. That's just the facts. It's honest. So Ashley,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to give it up when it's
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: right and when the truth is being told. And that's
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: the truth. Ashley was right.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, she was.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: That ain't what she said, but I think that's what
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: she meant. So I can say Ashley was right. You
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So, Raindrops, let us know your thoughts on this episode.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: And look, me and Dustin, make sure to take time.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Out of our holiday.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: That's right for y'all. Monday Night Live will be back.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Next week, okay? Monday Night Live will be back next week.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: We have so much to catch up on.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, we do.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: And we will be talking about the season premiere.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: This one.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: We'll be talking about the season premiere of Love and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Marriage Unspelled. So can't wait to see.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about everything I see on the motherfucking screen, too.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now. I don't want to hear it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to hear it because I know I
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: don't read it anyway. But I'm talking all I'm going
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: to say because I know what people want me to
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: talk about. And what I'm going to say is, what
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: I can promise you, is that I'm going to review
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: everything I see on that show. Okay? And I've been
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: watching since season one, episode one. I remember when the
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: shit came out. So I know the story and all
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: players involved. So I can't wait to review the upcoming
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: season of Love and Marriage Huntsville.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: All right. I can't wait to get your reviews too.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: So raindrops don't- Thanks for having me. No, love you.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Justin, I will see you next week.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I love you, bro.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Have a great- I love you, bro. Happy Labor Day.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: All right, man.
• 59:23
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• 59:30
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• 59:34
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• 59:36
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