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Bama Bob recaps College Football, Scott Dochterman on the Hawkeyes & Mr. Monday Night presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  I'm Miller Cotton, welcome back our number 2.
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  We'll take you until 2 at that time and turn things over off
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  the bench. Sean and Lucas 2 until 5.
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  Scott document at the bottom of the hour.
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  Mr. Monday night was it with his pick point spreads 1011
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  somewhere in that vicinity. Mr. Monday Night Circus Sports
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  sponsors him. Let's get to our buddy Bama Bob
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  as we recap the week weekend in college football.
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  Another week comes and gone. Double digit Week 10.
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  Yes, week 10 is about will. We will embark Bama when we
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  reconvene on Friday, so we it's flying by.
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  Yeah, it's flying, isn't it? It's just crazy.
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  It always is. So Brian Kelly is out.
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  He's I think one of eight now Power 4 conferences that there's
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  a school looking for a new head coach.
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  We'll see where he lands or if he lands, but another golden
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  parachute for a head coach that didn't get it done at his
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  particular school? Yeah, and I guess I knew this,
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  but it's just been brought to light obviously with Kelly's
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  firing. Is that Scott Woodward, who's
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  the AD at LSU has, you know, is skeletal for both the the Jimbo
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  Fisher buyout because he hired him at A&M and then he left for
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  LSU and now he's responsible for the Kelly buyout, which are the
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  two largest in NCAA history. And I found it interesting.
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  It says they're still negotiating the buyout.
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  What's to negotiate? I'm.
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  Kelly I'm like, no, I think the line is $54,000,000.
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  That's the negotiate, the starting point.
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  Well, I think a part of it is Bama that will give you a lump
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  sum instead of paying out the whole thing over 54.
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  That's a lot of times the way that those play out.
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  Plus whatever the language is, if he takes another job, what
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  that is so. Yeah, there was an offset, I
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  guess in this one. Fisher had no offset.
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  So basically he got his $76 million regardless.
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  But it could very well be that they're trying to say, how about
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  you take 35 now and waive the rest of it and that way go find
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  you another job. It's it's, I mean, it's a nice
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  problem to have, you know, for, for failing.
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  But that that hire was just so it was so odd from the start.
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  I think we talked about it, you know, three or four years ago.
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  It just seemed like an odd fit. He never fit into the culture
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  down there. I saw somebody last night say he
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  never understood what the hell stood for in LSU.
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  And that is, I mean, this is just a different thing down
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  there. And he never fit in.
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  He tried to fake it and they just never bought it.
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  And so, yeah, he'll be looking for work and I'll be, I'll be
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  interested to see where he lands.
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  Maybe it's just a culture thing, but you could just tell that
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  that side. I mean, he's just got to be
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  miserable to work for, doesn't he always.
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  It just looks insufferable and constantly.
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  And so that has just got to as an Alabama fan, I'm like, great,
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  because now they're going to play loose and free when they
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  come to Tuscaloosa in two weeks and they're out familiar that.
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  But we'll get to that in a couple weeks.
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  But yeah, just just a miserable tenure down there is finally,
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  mercifully over, and we'll see where they go from here.
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  They're going to call Lane Kiffin, I bet, like everybody
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  else. Let's get to the Big 12 Trent
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  recap it. The bad news, Texas Tech, their
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  backup quarterback, Will Hammond, who's really good, I
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  think he's now out for the year. Torres ACL.
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  We'll see if Morton's ready to go back in the next time the
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  Texas Tech takes the field. Your thoughts, Takeaways from
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  the Big 12, Trent. I'm just excited for that
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  Houston Cincinnati Big 12 championship game.
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  Do you think I wouldn't be surprised?
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  It's Planko and that's all this Football Conference is this
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  Blinko put it in there. Nobody has any control and we'll
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  just see what. But there is no way to decipher
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  what this thing is going to do. BYU found a way.
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  Again, long portions, they did not look like the right side in
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  that football game. It just, that's what you're
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  going to get out of this conference.
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  And I, I've said for years, I, I, we're treading towards a year
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  where we're going to have that six way tie at six and three.
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  I don't know if it's going to be this year, but maybe for 2nd
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  place that's what we might get. We might, I mean Utah.
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  How does Colorado beat Iowa State and then just look awful
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  against Utah? They were down 43, nothing after
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  30 minutes. K State looks as though maybe
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  they're back into this thing or trending in the right direction.
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  Texas Tech mentioned them. Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Houston.
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  Really. In the Big 12 Championship game.
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  Probably not good for business. Oh my God, that.
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  'D be awful, Bammy. Your thoughts on the Big 12?
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  Yeah, it's just a mess, I guess, with Kenny.
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  You, you and I both said Friday, hey, if BYU wins, we'll be
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  believers. Yep, Yep.
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  Here we go. I guess we got.
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  Barebock Meyer was really good. I'll believe, you know,
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  believing is one thing, being sold is another.
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  I mean, they still have. They've got to go to tech.
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  They got a bye week. They go to Lubbock and they go
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  to Cincinnati. So they've still got two really
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  tough Rd. games. I mean, how about that you want
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  to talk about? I'll just give you a doomsday
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  scenario for the conference, right?
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  BYU goes to Cincinnati the next to last week of the season.
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  If those two teams, if we get a repeat of that, whatever that is
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  in the in the Big 12 championship game, that's going
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  to be a nightmare for the conference.
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  I think BYU still has a chance to drop a couple of games as to
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  Cincinnati, but somebody's going to have to beat them and so far
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  nobody's been able to do it. It's I don't it's confounding,
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  but it is what it is. I think Arizona State is
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  probably finished Houston still in the mix.
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  Man there they are right four and one seven and one ranked
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  22nd Utah. I mean, then you got all the
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  three and twos and that's that's I think where you're talking
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  about. You could possibly have a lot of
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  chaos getting into if who's who's the two loss team that
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  gets into the championship game. But listen, it's I, I called it
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  a beautiful mess on Friday. And it is because you just every
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  week there's just meaningful games.
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  Now you can talk about, well, I wish it was these two better
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  teams, but you know, we're nine weeks in right now and and here
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  we are. And this is kind of what?
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  They are what they are. They are what they are and, and
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  here we go. But I think Houston is, I think
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  Houston is going to have something to say about that
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  before it's all said and done. But it's it's impossible to
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  pick. It really is.
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  So on Twitter I saw something that have you seen the 6/7?
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  Trend I I I live it every day I. Have.
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  I have no idea what it meant. Yeah.
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  I don't understand either please.
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  Explain. It means so, so I think that's
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  how I took it. That's what head is morphed
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  into. It started as nothing.
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  Don't read into it. It will drive you crazy.
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  And my son 6-7 shut up I. Think it means so.
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  So. And I think that's where the Big
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  12 and the 6-7, it started with nothing and now it's morphed
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  into that. Yeah.
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  Please don't go down that road. Well, I deal with it enough at
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  home. I was.
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  I couldn't help myself. But what are these guys talking
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  about? I didn't want to say it on the
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  air and then be a racist. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
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  Or. Or, you know, something you
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  shouldn't say. Anyways, there are 6-7, the Big
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  12, Bama, the Big 10's not. Let's start with Trent, though,
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  first of all, my Huskers, yeah. I mean, when you get away with
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  past interference, you can you can escape at.
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  Home against awful non call was so bad oh.
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  My God, hair on fire. Oh my God.
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  They're not a good football team.
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  They're not. They're not a good football
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  team. You know who might be who?
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  The Washington Huskies. Yeah, yeah, They went in, you
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  know, even in that game, that was a bad trip going out to
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  Michigan. They were right there.
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  They just couldn't get that offense going.
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  I. Like Williams a lot, they're QB.
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  You're looking for a 10 and two team and I know in this state
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  we're talking about a 10 and two team to get in the play offs and
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  if Iowa does win out, they will be in.
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  Same thing with Washington at Wisconsin, home for Purdue at
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  UCLA and then Oregon at home to wrap it up and we know how big
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  rivalry that is. The Huskies at 10 and two are in
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  that. Husky Stadium.
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  Wow, that would be a massive game.
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  Anything else from the Big 10? The Michigan Michigan State
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  game. Well, of course you get the
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  cover there with 7 seconds left as once again they backed.
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  Of course, Aidan Childs gets benched because that's what
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  happens seemingly every game, and Alicio Milazovic comes in
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  and tosses A touchdown with 7 seconds for the cover play.
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  Indiana is really good I guess, right?
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  I mean, Bammy, your thoughts on the Big 10?
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  Yeah, look, Indiana, I, I would put Indiana and Texas A&M.
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  You can, you know, flip a coin on.
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  I'm not sure on any. Better I'm boy, I tell you.
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  The more I look at him, the more I am.
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  To do that, I love Reed. I love Reed.
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  He still plays out there, too. They got a defence too now.
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  They haven't played Georgia. They haven't played Alabama.
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  What's their best win at Notre Dame by far right or at LSU?
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  Here's their here's their They beat UT, San Antonio, They beat
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  Utah State. Both of these teams in the
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  middle of their conferences. Their SEC scalps are Auburn,
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  Mississippi State, Florida, Arkansas and LSU.
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  What they've got left at Missouri, South Carolina and
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  that, well, Sanford only can bring that up.
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  And then at Texas on the Black Friday Eve got How good is that
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  going to be? Yeah, yeah, they're going to be
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  in the SEC championship game, but on on the Big 10.
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  I mean, God, Indy, listen, Indiana's a just pencil in for
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  Indianapolis, right? I mean, they're they're you just
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  look at what's left there. There's no way anybody's
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  different up. You know, you mentioned
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  Washington might be the best. Obviously Senator, you're the
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  Iowa Hawkeyes are going to have just a ton to say about this.
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  I'm just looking at this three-game stretch, right?
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  And starting in November 8th, you've got Oregon and Iowa.
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  You've got Iowa then at USC the next week and then you've got
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  UCA. I'm sorry, USC at Oregon the
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  week after and then you just mentioned you've got Washington
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  and Oregon after that. I mean, Oregon could be out of
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  this. I mean, or Iowa could easily
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  toss aside Iowa and USC could both toss aside Oregon.
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  One of these teams is going to, here's what you want.
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  If you're the Big 10, right, you want one of these teams, they
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  would probably prefer, you know, either I or USC just to kind of,
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  you know, be a solid two loss team, not a three loss team.
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  And then with a two loss organ, it's, it's just a, it's a, it's
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  another mess that is they are desperately trying to find out
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  who, who's the 4th team we can get in because you look at what
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  happened in the SEC with Ole Miss this weekend.
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  I mean, the SEC is going to have a solid 4 and the Big 10 doesn't
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  want 5, so they're desperately trying to get one of those.
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  And Michigan still has a chance because they got to go to, but
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  they have to go to. Ohio State, yeah.
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  USC a couple of tough trips. I mean, you know, they get Iowa
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  at home and they get go to Oregon.
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  UCLA, Illinois, yeah, UCLA, Illinois is done.
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  You mentioned Washington, Washington might have the
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  clearest path right there. I mean, and and nothing on that
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  sounds sounds daunting, but yeah, it was it was I think the
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  real winner this weekend was Washington.
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  You got to throw Iowa in there too, because they just
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  absolutely, you know, bludgeoned Minnesota in that game 41 to 3.
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  And that's the kind of score guys that if you're not paying
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  attention to Iowa football like you guys do, you know, day in,
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  day out, week in, week out, that's the kind of score you
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  look at and go, OK, yeah, you know, it wasn't one of these 16
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  to 12, let's squeak by. You know, that was a that was
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  just a that was a bludgeoning. And that's what you really need
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  if you really you need results like that if you want to try to
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  get in as a tending to at large team in the Big 10.
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  So I think they were a winner. Washington was a winner.
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  Indiana kind of did what they were supposed to do.
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  Nebraska this week by Michigan, you know, the back door cover as
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  you mentioned. But solid week for the Big 10.
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  Nothing really flashy didn't hurt themselves at all, let's
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  put it that way. Yeah, Iowa, big winner.
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  Washington, I'm with you. All right, let's go to the SEC.
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  Your takeaways there. This is going to be more
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  bothersome here with Iowa off this week.
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  But why is Oklahoma and Missouri and Texas?
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  Why are these teams ranked in Iowa?
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  Can't sniff a ranking? What about any of those three
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  times this? Got lucky.
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  I'm sorry they got lucky. You're.
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  Down 17 in that game and should have been salted away a couple
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  of different times in that one. Oklahoma, I mean, they're a
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  different team without material. This is not a top 25 team.
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  No way. Missouri What have they done?
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  And a lot of games at home, yeah.
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  It just it's the SEC and we know the manufacturing that happens
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  over there. But that aside to the actual
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  games on the field, Ole Miss and did it with a couple of
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  defensive plays, not a ton, but did a couple.
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  Now the question becomes with Lane, because that's impressive.
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  Yeah, going on the road and winning that game back-to-back
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  Rd. games. We talked about that angle on
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  Friday. Now don't screw it up, Lane.
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  Don't lose to South Carolina, don't lose to Florida.
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  You just. You can't.
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  Where's the where is the game in Oxford or do they have as the
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  game at South Carolina? That's a home.
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  Good, that's good. Yeah, because we saw.
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  South Carolina, left, is the Egg Bowl.
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  Oh, how good is that? Now that's no longer
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  Thanksgiving, right? That'll go up against that.
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  Black Friday. Black Friday at night, probably
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  11 AM. 11 AM. What time's I would middle the
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  afternoon? I thought they were OK
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  regardless of that. We'll, we'll check on that.
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  Bama, your thoughts on the SEC? Alabama escaped, I thought.
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  Same time by the way. I think they, yeah, I think
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  Alabama, I think escaped is a good way to put it.
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  I don't want to say this was predictable, but.
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  Well, you called it on Friday, the type of quarterback that
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  both of you guys brought this up that sellers can run around and
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  make plays. He can.
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  And I don't want to say they're lucky that when they needed a
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  drive, they had a drive and then they when they needed to make a
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  defensive play, they ripped it from sellers with the score tie.
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  So and then and then of course you go on and you score again.
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  So you have to give them some credit there.
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  They still can't run the football consistently.
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  That is ultimately going to bite them in the butt.
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  Now they've got LSU, they got a bye week and then LSU comes with
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  a new coach. So that's a little worrisome.
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  Right after that, Oklahoma comes in.
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  That's kind of a payback game. Then they've got, I think I
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  don't know, Eastern Illinois and they go to Auburn.
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  So right now they are, yeah, right, they are.
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  They are the favorite. I think to get to the play A&M
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  in the SEC championship game, they're going to be favored in
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  everything, heavily favored maybe over LSU, probably too
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  heavily favored. That said, again, they did what
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  they were supposed to. You could kind of see this.
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  I didn't know the Kaylin the Boar had lost four games in his
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  Alabama tenure where he had been a double digit favorite.
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  So up until about the last 6 minutes of the game it looked
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  like they were going to add to. That Hey Baba, let me stop real
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  quick. Did they let Bernard score?
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  I They did, didn't they? Absolutely, 100% let him score.
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  And I don't have a problem with him scoring there.
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  And, and they kind of mentioned it on the broadcast.
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  Well, you know, if he just goes down, the game's over.
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  Well, no, the game's not over. You still got to execute a field
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  goal. OK.
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  So, you know, anything can happen there.
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  So with with if there were a minute and a half left, I'd be
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  like get down, get down, get down.
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  But with 30 seconds left, I got no problem then making making
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  South Carolina have to score a touchdown in 30 seconds.
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  So I don't have a problem with that.
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  But they absolutely let him score so that, you know,
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  whatever that kind of pads the numbers.
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  A&M again, just they boy, they look like a they look like a
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  wagon now. They haven't played.
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  They've got a very quote UN quote soft SEC schedule if you
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  really want to look at it. There's no Georgia, there's no
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  Alabama, there's no Vanderbilt, there's no Tennessee.
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  By the way, let me stop you. Let me stop you.
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  You you heard what you just said, right?
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  There's no. Yeah, no, Vanderbilt.
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  Yeah, Absolutely, Absolutely. Yeah.
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  And you should. Teams in the conference.
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  I don't play them. Yeah, and you should say
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  Vanderbilt. I'm not.
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  I'm not knocking for saying, just weird to hear it.
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  Like, yeah, it is very weird to hear that and look out in Austin
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  this week. We'll we'll get in a little bit.
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  But yeah, you know, Texas, you mentioned just the the escape
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  act that they had and poor, poor Mississippi statement.
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  Can they win a game? I mean, they they blow it
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  against Tennessee at home, they blow it against Texas at home
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  and then they blow a game down in Gainesville because their
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  coach was an idiot. So they've just they've got they
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  just really have to be feeling it over in Starkville.
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  Vanderbilt again. I mean, they just keep doing it
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  and I'm going to make Trent mad. But can we just please pump the
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  brakes on the on the Pavia for Heisman?
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  Right. Yeah.
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  I don't mean he's a guy. I'm with you.
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  He would start at 19. Great.
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  Story Great competitor, Tough as nails 10 out of 19 for 129 yards
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  in the pick. He has not thrown for 200 yards
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  in the SEC game this year. High Simpson is not thrown for
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  less than 200. Yards.
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  I think it's Simpson. It's King Hayes.
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  King of Georgia Tech. It's Mendoza.
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  Yeah, I think Mendoza's in there.
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  I can. Probably read me Mendoza.
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  He has favor built in the top ten.
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  I know Vanderbilt in the top 10. Doesn't matter.
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  That's what this award's morphed into though.
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  Got to be a winner. But who right now, who's the
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  favorite? You know, I don't know.
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  It's got to be Mendoza, right? Mendoza are sensing to me those
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  are the 2. Betting, you're probably betting
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  wise, yeah, no, look at Pavi's going to get a bunch of votes,
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  He's going to get a bunch of. Votes.
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  I don't have a problem with that.
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  I don't have a problem bringing him to New York.
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  I really don't. I mean, could you imagine him in
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  New York City? My God, the entourage.
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  That guy working into New York City with all his family and
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  everything. Swagger.
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  I mean it, it would be, it would you would have you almost have
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  to bring him there. If you're ESPN, you want him
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  there. He shouldn't.
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  He's. Box office.
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  He, he, he is box office. But you, you can't you, you the
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  numbers just don't support it. The for a quarterback, all
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  right. For a quarterback, the numbers
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  don't support it. Are you guys ready for
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  championship Saturday to include Vanderbilt?
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  Texas A&M? Don't feel like a championship
• 17:56
  game? No.
• 17:57
  Houston, Cincinnati, Oh God and Virginia, Georgia Tech.
• 18:01
  There's a championship Saturday's Virginia, Virginia's,
• 18:04
  Virginia's fake. Are they still very much the
• 18:07
  whole? The whole league's fake.
• 18:09
  That league stinks. What was what?
• 18:12
  Since we're going down that path, trend your thoughts on the
• 18:14
  ACC this week? SMU finally took their first
• 18:17
  ever conference losses. Yes, of course.
• 18:20
  Landlocked in Dallas, TX, part of the Atlantic Coast
• 18:23
  Conference. What a stupid league.
• 18:25
  It really is. It is a stupid league.
• 18:28
  I give Belichick credit for trying to end the football game
• 18:31
  overtime going for two. I agree.
• 18:33
  I wish they would have knocked off Virginia so we can so we can
• 18:35
  end that discussion. Cavaliers don't belong in that
• 18:38
  list, but I guess they're there at this point.
• 18:41
  Bama. Good stuff, brother.
• 18:42
  Thank you. Got a good slate of games coming
• 18:45
  up this week. We'll talk to you about them on
• 18:47
  Friday. All right.
• 18:48
  Can't wait, guys. Take care.
• 18:50
  Yep, You have a good week, Bama. Bob Trent and I recap in the
• 18:52
  Week in College Football. That championship Saturday
• 18:55
  seemed to make you a little sad. It did.
• 18:58
  Is there a isn't there? What don't one of the schools
• 19:00
  play have a basketball game either?
• 19:02
  Iowa State play on that day. I think Iowa State, Purdue is.
• 19:04
  Purdue, that's what it is, and it's early.
• 19:07
  It's like 11, I think. I'm pretty sure it is.
• 19:10
  I mean, it's pretty sure it's early in the day.
• 19:12
  Good stuff. All right, let's head to
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  Win at KX and o.com. We didn't touch hardly on the
• 19:28
  NFL. Well, I don't think we did.
• 19:29
  We'll get to that tomorrow. Just one quick thing.
• 19:32
  I know it's my team. Have you seen anyone on Twitter
• 19:36
  that doesn't like the uniforms they wore yesterday?
• 19:38
  No, shouldn't. And here they are on TV.
• 19:41
  Shouldn't that we be what what they're doing?
• 19:43
  Well, I've said the for the better part of three decades now
• 19:46
  since they went away from them and.
• 19:47
  But they went away and they won the.
• 19:48
  They won the. Super Bowl.
• 19:49
  They're hideous. They were gross then they were
• 19:51
  gross in the 90s. They won the.
• 19:52
  Super Bowl the first time they they're still ugly, that's true.
• 19:55
  Ugly year after year after year. This is, this is.
• 19:59
  It's so aesthetically pleasing. The orange and blue, that
• 20:02
  helmet. Oh, it's spectacular.
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  Yes. Miller and Condon.
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  Scott Doctorman. Next.
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  listening wherever that you are. Trenton I until two that time
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  we'll turn things over off the bench.
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  Lucas and Sean 2 until 5 overtime Iowa 5 to 6.
• 20:26
  Scott Dockerman covers college football at the Athletic.
• 20:29
  He was at Kinnock Stadium on Saturday night watching the
• 20:32
  Hawks. We'll get into his college
• 20:33
  football. His latest playoff rankings
• 20:35
  posted at the Athletic as well. Doc, I guess we should start
• 20:39
  real quick. Just a college football related,
• 20:41
  they didn't know Brian Kelly. The latest becomes the 8th power
• 20:44
  for school to fire their coach in the middle of the season.
• 20:48
  I don't remember this being this many in previous years Doc, but
• 20:52
  here we are and Brian Kelly is the latest.
• 20:54
  Are you surprised? Nothing surprises me anymore.
• 20:58
  I mean, I think, and when you start talking about this, I
• 21:01
  think what happened with James Franklin is probably the one
• 21:04
  that made you go, whoa, really? And, and here we are now with
• 21:07
  with Brian Kelly, SO2 very much accomplished coaches, probable
• 21:13
  Hall of Fame coaches, and yet they're on the chopping block
• 21:16
  this year. So with with Brian Kelly, it's
• 21:20
  it's, you know, kind of a product of where you are.
• 21:23
  And he hasn't won at a high enough level for LSU, which went
• 21:28
  with the expanded playoff. And there's expectations that
• 21:31
  they get there and they haven't and they're not going to this
• 21:35
  year. And, and apparently this came
• 21:37
  down to more of a disagreement among some of the staff that
• 21:41
  they wanted them to get rid of. But Even so, it's kind of a sign
• 21:46
  of the times we're in that that's what, you know, right
• 21:49
  now, I think. But I tell you what, the
• 21:51
  coaching cycle, the carousel is going to really heat up.
• 21:54
  And I just wonder, are there going to be enough seats left
• 21:57
  for decent coaches, or are a few of these schools going to
• 22:01
  revisit the same thing in three to four years?
• 22:03
  Well, we still have possible potential, actually Luke Fickle
• 22:06
  out there. Wisconsin, you got Jonathan
• 22:08
  Smith and Michigan State with the Big 10 angle to it.
• 22:11
  But programs like that that certainly are not at the tier of
• 22:14
  jobs that are already open. Does it make sense to do what
• 22:18
  Florida try to do with Napier? Hey, let's invest heavily one
• 22:21
  more year on the roster, try to help them out that way.
• 22:24
  Could we see more schools do it just because there's so many
• 22:26
  elite level jobs that are already open?
• 22:30
  I think it's possible. I mean, I, I think if you got,
• 22:33
  if you're say, Hugh Freeze at Auburn or or Jonathan Smith
• 22:37
  maybe at Michigan State, that maybe the market itself make
• 22:40
  means that, you know, maybe they ought to hold serve for one more
• 22:44
  year and let them see kind of how they're going to work.
• 22:47
  And but that of course, runs counter to what we have in
• 22:51
  college football today, which is 100% emotion dictating
• 22:56
  everything and and emotion from the donors and and boosters in a
• 23:01
  lot of these schools. So I, you know, it, yeah, I
• 23:04
  would behoove some schools to do it that way.
• 23:06
  But, but I think it's also it it spills over to the just the the
• 23:11
  what what schools can do that are smart is like what Indiana
• 23:16
  did with Kurt Signetti. Now, granted, no, he's, he's a
• 23:19
  special coach to be able to jump in and do what he did, but not
• 23:23
  to worry about winning the press conference.
• 23:25
  Don't worry about making a big splash, worry about finding a
• 23:29
  coach that fits your program and can coach because in two years,
• 23:33
  nobody cares about the press conference.
• 23:35
  Nobody cares that, you know, he was able to to slap backs on
• 23:39
  December 3rd and and after a news conference.
• 23:42
  But but these schools will never learn, and that's why they're in
• 23:45
  the same they're in the market every three to four years for a
• 23:48
  new code. Like, I know it's an NFL
• 23:50
  problem. They are an NFL program.
• 23:53
  But remember Nick Siriani's first press conference?
• 23:56
  He was just ridiculed for days. That's worked out pretty well,
• 24:00
  Doc. Let's let's head to Kinnick
• 24:02
  Stadium. You were there on Saturday to
• 24:04
  watch the dismantling. It's my take here today that
• 24:09
  we're we're seeing another Coach Ference team get better as the
• 24:12
  year goes by, and that certainly looks as though the 2025 Hawkeye
• 24:17
  team is going to join that group.
• 24:19
  Granted, they've still got those PAC 12 teams and back-to-back
• 24:21
  weeks ahead, but this team certainly looks a whole lot
• 24:24
  different now at the end of October than they did at any
• 24:27
  point in September. They're a much better team and
• 24:31
  it it's the type of team that you can, I could see it make
• 24:34
  progress in, you know, even back in September, they know the
• 24:38
  first quarter of the first game, it was kind of horrifying and
• 24:42
  you know, especially for the passing game.
• 24:43
  But then but then they gradually got better there.
• 24:46
  I thought defensively they played really well at Iowa State
• 24:49
  and I was in kind of impressed with the way they play because I
• 24:51
  wasn't sure what you had there and then every single step of
• 24:55
  the way. And once they got into October,
• 24:58
  you could see that they're flying their their rhythm.
• 25:01
  They understand what they are. They they've coached and, and
• 25:03
  called plays to what they are. And the defense is much better
• 25:07
  than what I thought it would be and, and, and much better than
• 25:09
  what it was. So this is a team that's it's
• 25:11
  ascending. It's to me, one of the 20 best
• 25:15
  teams in the country. It's it's kind of shows some
• 25:18
  disconnect in my opinion, but with some of the AP voters and
• 25:22
  actual on field play. But that will be rectified next
• 25:27
  week once the CFP comes together and after spending some time
• 25:30
  with the mock selections. Iowa will do very well among the
• 25:35
  committee members based on what they look for, not just, well,
• 25:39
  Texas won. Let's keep Texas in there, even
• 25:42
  though Texas needed a miracle to do.
• 25:44
  They did. Got it done.
• 25:45
  But yes, and you put together that resume what Iowa would have
• 25:49
  now we're way down the road. There's a lot of football before
• 25:51
  that. You mentioned the defense, the
• 25:54
  way that they've stepped forward.
• 25:55
  There is still 1 lingering thing.
• 25:57
  The passing game though, improving, still not at any kind
• 25:59
  of elite level and I don't think it's ever going to get there.
• 26:02
  Is there another level, though to this passing game?
• 26:04
  Is there another step up the rung that they can make if they
• 26:09
  need to go out to USC and they got to win one, you know, 2724
• 26:12
  and they got to throw the ball? Is there more out of this Iowa?
• 26:17
  No, yeah. I mean, they, this is not a good
• 26:20
  passing game. It's terrible, to be honest with
• 26:23
  you. We can we can shiny it up as
• 26:25
  much as we want, but it's not good.
• 26:27
  So yeah, there's a lot more there.
• 26:30
  How much? They didn't really have to show
• 26:32
  a whole lot on Saturday. They haven't had to show a lot,
• 26:34
  a lot this whole month, except for maybe a little bit against
• 26:37
  Penn State. I would say that what I would
• 26:40
  like to see more of, and I think they're more capable of is, is,
• 26:43
  is getting the running backs more involved because, you know,
• 26:48
  screen passes, that sort of thing.
• 26:50
  Maybe don't throw it into the ground like against Indiana, but
• 26:53
  throw it to the their jersey numbers.
• 26:55
  But I, I think that's probably something that that could be
• 26:58
  more improved upon. And, and there were yeah, that
• 27:01
  there were some rough throws. I don't know that Granowski is
• 27:04
  going to be able to, you know, hey, they need 80.
• 27:06
  You know, they're the 20 yard line after a touchback punt and
• 27:10
  they've got, they're down 4 points at, at USC and they got 2
• 27:15
  1/2 minutes to go. I don't know if he's going to be
• 27:17
  able to do it, but I, I wouldn't necessarily rule it out because
• 27:20
  of the way he runs the ball and, and the some of the things that
• 27:23
  Tim Lester's calling, which has been really effective.
• 27:26
  But but that said, they got a long way to go there.
• 27:28
  That's not their best punch. But in the other areas, they're
• 27:31
  strong enough to where they can compete with most teams in the
• 27:35
  country. Caden Wegen, Where's when it
• 27:37
  when it's all set and done. He's probably got another
• 27:39
  touchdown, maybe 2 in the return game ahead of him.
• 27:44
  He's going to be on any list. I think Doc of some of the best.
• 27:47
  Obviously Tim Dwight was the first under ferrets to do it and
• 27:50
  there's been some really good ones sent since then.
• 27:52
  Back to Philadelphia for just a second.
• 27:54
  There's one, you know, applying his trade now and Cooper de Jean
• 27:57
  was unbelievable. I remember Michael Hyde making
• 27:59
  some plays back there during his tenure.
• 28:02
  When when it's all said and done, where's Weejun on this
• 28:06
  list? He has moved up to, to me for, I
• 28:11
  mean, if you're talking about like all time Iowa, you know,
• 28:14
  Dwight had a, a gear that was hard to replicate 'cause he was
• 28:18
  so fast. But Legion is nearly as fast,
• 28:23
  not quite, but nearly. But he's more, but he's quicker
• 28:26
  and he's, he's got more, you know, ability to, to make
• 28:29
  lateral movements. And, and that's, that's
• 28:32
  something that's rare. I mean, I, I think, you know,
• 28:34
  Charlie Jones was terrific when he was doing it.
• 28:37
  Amir Smith, Marcetti as a kick returner.
• 28:40
  I mean, he was one penalty away from being an all time record
• 28:44
  holder in Big 10 history from in kick return average.
• 28:48
  And but I think I think legion might might be the best if he
• 28:52
  does it one more time. I mean, he's tied with Dwight
• 28:54
  for with five kick return touchdowns.
• 28:57
  And if he does it one more time, and if it's like, say, against
• 29:00
  Oregon and it's late in the game and, you know, brings up that
• 29:03
  kind of a moment, you know, you're kind of looking at what
• 29:05
  you know, when I saw out of Dante Hall, when I covered the
• 29:08
  Chiefs many, many, many years and you're here.
• 29:11
  As a Broncos fan. As a Broncos, yeah, Hey, I was.
• 29:13
  I was there for the 92 yarder. There's there's at least two
• 29:17
  blocks in the back, but we'll save that for another day, yeah.
• 29:22
  They're they're from the side. They got the helmet.
• 29:23
  All right, all right. Didn't ruin my stories well.
• 29:27
  It's a good song. Yeah, so I I think he's right
• 29:30
  there and he he had Dwyder neck and neck and he still has more
• 29:34
  of the resume to right. Doc, Is there a home for him in
• 29:37
  the NFL? Can a guy like that, can he find
• 29:40
  a spot? I know nobody came back.
• 29:41
  He wanted assurances that they're going to use them a
• 29:44
  little bit more offensively and then they've obviously been
• 29:46
  doing that Here's recently. Is there a spot in the NFL for a
• 29:49
  guy like that? And he is obviously a dynamic
• 29:52
  returner. Sure, no question.
• 29:56
  You know, I, I just brought up Dante Hall and he reminds me a
• 29:58
  lot of him. I mean, he's, you know, he's
• 30:01
  not. I mean, their moves are similar.
• 30:04
  I think King Regent's faster. He's not quite as thick as Dante
• 30:10
  was. Dante had, you know, really
• 30:11
  thick base. But I think, you know, you put
• 30:13
  him on, he can be a kick return for for anybody in the NFL.
• 30:17
  He's good enough to do that. And and, you know, and and do
• 30:20
  things like he does at Iowa, which is, you know, they they
• 30:23
  run among some sweeps and stuff. And he could be a marginal
• 30:26
  player there. But sure, in the NFL, you know,
• 30:28
  if you could go out and impact the game, you know, 7-8 times a
• 30:32
  game. I mean, yeah, he's, you know,
• 30:34
  you look at, you know, can a can a long, you know, is on the
• 30:38
  roster and he's a kick returner with The Jets.
• 30:40
  He didn't play yesterday. But no, he's definitely an NFL
• 30:45
  caliber player with how he's performed.
• 30:47
  My last thing for you, Doc, your College Football Playoff
• 30:49
  rankings after week #9 you're your top four are two, two Big
• 30:54
  10, two SEC's, Ohio State one Indiana 2A and M3, and Alabama
• 31:00
  4. I don't think you get much
• 31:01
  pushback there, but it's a website, so with comments, so
• 31:04
  you might have just how difficult was it this?
• 31:07
  What was your most difficult choice of the 12 teams that you
• 31:10
  have in? Yeah, I think I, I would
• 31:13
  probably go with, you know, some of the the, the lower ones.
• 31:17
  I mean, when you start to get into the last couple of
• 31:21
  selections, that's where it's getting really tough.
• 31:23
  I mean, you know, leaving out BYU, they're undefeated.
• 31:27
  That one was really tough. But it when you start going OK,
• 31:31
  BYU or Georgia Tech, you flip a coin.
• 31:34
  Vanderbilt's played really well and it's hard not to put them in
• 31:37
  right now at Texas Tech or BYU. Well, we'll find out for sure in
• 31:42
  about two weeks. But you know, Notre Dame, I
• 31:45
  dropped them out before I started start more.
• 31:48
  I started thinking about him like, you know, what are what's
• 31:50
  our quality win USB? And, you know, Cincinnati's had
• 31:54
  a really nice year bouncing back from that really close loss to
• 31:57
  to Nebraska. And I think Iowa's playing as
• 32:00
  the 4th best team in the Big 10. And, and all you have to do with
• 32:03
  with them is say, you know, they look at the Indiana game and you
• 32:08
  know, they're right there with these teams and probably leaving
• 32:10
  Virginia. And I probably in retrospect
• 32:12
  would have put Louisville over them because I don't think
• 32:14
  Virginia is going to last much longer.
• 32:16
  But I would say that really it's those next four to five teams
• 32:20
  that are out are the ones that make the of cringe.
• 32:23
  They would be in the tournament if it was a 16 team tournament.
• 32:26
  Full circle where we began the conversation.
• 32:28
  We'll get you out on this dock. Across on the other sideline,
• 32:31
  there is Philip J Fleck having to call a time out to end the
• 32:34
  third quarter so he can have the wind at his back and get that
• 32:36
  goose egg. Is he getting his mail in
• 32:38
  Minneapolis next year? Yeah, I, I, I think he will
• 32:43
  unless he doesn't really want to.
• 32:45
  I mean, there there will be a job available for him if he
• 32:48
  wants it. Now, if he wants to stay in
• 32:51
  Minnesota, they'll keep them. I mean, he's he's had a nice run
• 32:55
  and this game is leaves. Obviously everybody's mad up
• 32:58
  there for best and but you know, and as they should be and they
• 33:02
  are in Madison because what happened to Iowa out there.
• 33:04
  But I think he's had a nice career in Minnesota.
• 33:07
  I think he'll do well if somebody wants him somewhere
• 33:11
  else and he wants to leave. But but yeah, there are some
• 33:15
  things that kind of crack you up and, and doing that instead of
• 33:19
  just taking it to the 4th quarter and kicking the field
• 33:21
  goal was just the idiosyncrasies that PJ has sometimes I think
• 33:25
  drive people crazy. He's got a young quarterback
• 33:28
  that's pretty good, although he didn't look like that.
• 33:30
  The Iowa defense had had his number.
• 33:33
  Good stuff. Scott Duckerman, What does Trent
• 33:35
  and I are both subscribers to The Athletic.
• 33:37
  What can we look forward to with your name on it this week?
• 33:40
  Yeah, I'm doing right now. I'm working on this top that
• 33:44
  that the 10 most underrated CFP games in the month of November
• 33:49
  coming up. And you know, there's games like
• 33:52
  Notre Dame and Pittsburgh, Iowa, USC, you know, Texas A&M and and
• 33:58
  South Carolina. They're they're games that are
• 34:01
  under the radar that have real that could have really big
• 34:05
  impact on the CFP rates. So I'm, I'm going through them
• 34:09
  all and starting this week with the Virginia and California.
• 34:12
  So yeah. So there's some, you know, I'll
• 34:16
  say this, that I on my list before Saturday was Arizona
• 34:20
  State at Iowa State, BYU, Cincinnati.
• 34:25
  That Big 12 conference is just bananas.
• 34:27
  Good stuff, Doc. Thank you as always, Scott.
• 34:30
  We will try and run you down next Monday if your schedule
• 34:32
  allows. Thank you, Scott.
• 34:34
  All right. Thanks so much.
• 34:36
  Good to talk to Scott Dockerman as we check in on college
• 34:39
  football with the Dock. Pretty good 110.
• 34:42
  Most underrated when it comes to college football.
• 34:45
  I can't believe we're about to turn the calendar.
• 34:47
  November. So Saturday's game will be in
• 34:49
  October though, right? No 31st is when unless we get 32
• 34:52
  days this year and October. First on Saturday it.
• 34:54
  Is Halloween's Friday night? Is it everywhere now?
• 34:58
  Didn't I see something change? Yes, we're not doing Beggars
• 35:01
  Night here in Des Moines anymore, right?
• 35:03
  That has finally, thank God, fallen by the wayside.
• 35:07
  Unfortunately, of course, as the calendar falls Friday night, I
• 35:11
  work Friday night. Yes you do.
• 35:12
  Where will you be working Friday?
• 35:14
  Have you decided? Yet I'm going to be out of
• 35:15
  Valley Stadium so I can do some trick or treating with the kids.
• 35:19
  Prairie comes to town and Kyle Knox outfit out of Cedar.
• 35:23
  Rapids Prairie, there you go. So it's a battle of orange,
• 35:26
  black and orange on Halloween night.
• 35:28
  Prairie against Valley have the call for you. 96.9 FM.
• 35:31
  Who wins it? I mean at all.
• 35:33
  Not Friday. Who's Dowling Catholic You.
• 35:35
  Think they're the team to be the prohibitive?
• 35:37
  Favorite. Prohibitive.
• 35:38
  Favorite. I believe so.
• 35:40
  Now we had a lot of movement. Iowa City Liberty, I know,
• 35:43
  opened a lot of eyes. What they did a year ago and get
• 35:46
  into the that Final four and kind of upsetting the apple cart
• 35:49
  a little bit. They got a path.
• 35:50
  They're going to have to get through a couple of central Iowa
• 35:52
  teams to get there. But Dowling, Tom Wilson,
• 35:55
  institutionally, just year after year, you know, they're going to
• 35:58
  be peaking. Valley's a little bit banged up
• 36:00
  right now too. Bad.
• 36:02
  Walkie Northwest, though I told you I was impressed by him, but
• 36:04
  then they fell to Walkie a couple weeks ago.
• 36:06
  Who snuck into the playoffs? Can we see our valley dolling on
• 36:10
  a collision course to play before the Dome?
• 36:13
  They would not beat before the Dome, it would be at the
• 36:15
  unidome. Yep, they are separated.
• 36:17
  Yeah, their own pods, as we have a pod system now.
• 36:20
  Of the two teams in Ankeny, does one have a chance to get to the
• 36:23
  Dome? Be the Hawks, yeah.
• 36:25
  Be the Hawks. Yeah, Yeah, they and they're
• 36:28
  right there, too. I've seen them seen on both
• 36:30
  sides this year. The Hawks have looked really
• 36:31
  good. They've also struggled at times.
• 36:33
  But what I saw for them for the 1st 3 1/2 quarters against Sioux
• 36:36
  City E, what I saw against them against Valley, yeah, that team
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  absolutely can. Get best team out of central
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  Iowa is. It's tough between Iowa City
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  Liberty and Sioux City. EI Saw Liberty a couple times
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  last year. Also have institutional
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  knowledge of that program because one of my good friends
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  is the starting Center for the team.
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  But it's between those two, Iowa City Liberty or Sioux City E
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  There's something about that E team I really like.
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  I want that story, too. Yeah, I do too.
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  They haven't had. It's been so long.
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  The Sioux City Public Schools haven't had a team in the Dome
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  since 1984. How cool that'd be that.
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  'D be awesome, Trent. No, Trent's done.
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  Mr. Monday night is on the other side.
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  Get his pick on Chiefs and Commanders.
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  That's next. Miller and Condon.
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  Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome back to the Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network week #8 concludes tonight at Gia Field at
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  Arrowhead Stadium. Is that how we call?
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  It that's correct. That is correct.
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  With the commanders and the chiefs, the numbers 910 eleven,
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  it's kind of all over the place. Who do you like, Mr. Monday
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  Night? Mr. Monday Night's All About the
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  Dog. Commanders.
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  You've taken the points never opened at 5 1/2 with no Daniels.
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  It's gone up to 10 1/2 the. Return of the receivers.
• 37:56
  Big Mclaurin overlookable aren't Sammy rather?
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  79% of the tickets, 74% of the money on the Chiefs fade the
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  public Monday night. When everybody's going one way,
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  Mr. Monday night's going the other.
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  Zip in the other all. Right, 10 1/2 points.
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  You're hopeful you get a game, but you're going to be watching.
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  I will because. You hate watch the Chiefs.
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  All the time. You do.
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  It bothers me. Yeah.
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  It's not good for my health. But the Blue Jays are.
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  Out. That's not good for my health.
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  So. You know, Friday night was
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  unbelievable, right? I mean, I had a night that was
• 38:31
  unbelievable. Reality set in Saturday.
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  I hope that we go back to Friday night tonight, but I don't think
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  we will. But Mad Max under outs,
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  probably. So thanks for being with us.
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  Miller and Conda. Noon to two on the Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. The Iowa Sports Radio Network.