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- 0:57My name is Ashley Krog, and I'm going to be your host on this fantastic Friday.
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- 1:13I have been trying to stay up on things, reading the headlines and kind of understanding things.
- 1:19And the more you know, the scarier the world becomes.
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- 1:49Um, I wanted to give a chance for my awesome co-host to explain who they are and why they are here.
- 1:56And then uh we'll talk about Samsung Biologics.
- 2:01Uh, this was the headline that caught my eye.
- 2:04Um, Dave, why don't you go ahead and start us off?
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- 2:10My name is David Wayne.
- 2:11I'm a nurse with a background in hospital psychiatry.
- 2:14I was also a COVID dissident, so obviously I'm also a dangerous conspiracy theorist and nurse anarchist because at this point I say do not trust any authority within the medical system.
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- 2:28Nurse Nicole.
- 2:30And I go by Nurse Nicole, Med Central Florida registered nurse.
- 2:34Um, I have predominantly worked in the cardiac field of nursing, and I currently run a chest pain program.
- 2:40I am also known as someone who can't be trusted, and I guess you know, uh likes to be questioned all the time for my validity of things that I talk about, which involves me going to local and state government to try to raise awareness and educate on bodily sovereignty informed consent and what it was like to be a nurse during the COVID-19 um era with egregious unconstitutional vaccine mandates, and now I also help represent and um work with severely vaccine injured due to the COVID-19 vaccine and beyond.
- 3:10So glad to be here.
- 3:11Can't wait to talk about more government overreach.
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- 5:18So let's go ahead and dive in.
- 5:19So I'm reading these headlines and I'm looking at these different things and wondering what's going on in the world.
- 5:26And the headline that I read is Samsung Biologic expands US manufacturing capabilities with strategic acquisition of human genome sciences from GSK.
- 5:36And I'm like, wait, what?
- 5:39Samsung?
- 5:41Sam Samsung, like my phone, Samsung is meddling in health, and and I know that these things are happening.
- 5:50I know that a lot of these big companies like Amazon, um, you know, and I know that there are others, but that's just the one that comes to mind, are starting to meddle in the medical pharmaceutical realm.
- 6:03They see it as big money, they know that we are dependent on pharmaceuticals, and let's be honest, as Dave covers on darn near every show, they get away with murder all the time.
- 6:15Legit.
- 6:16Right?
- 6:17Like, I'm not making this up.
- 6:19So why wouldn't a company like Samsung want to come into this space?
- 6:25So I I want to catch you guys' initial reactions after reading that title, thoughts.
- 6:30Let's go ahead and start with Nicole.
- 6:34I mean, so at this point, we know that a lot of companies, big name companies, you know, Apple, and I think also Verizon, Garmin, because I actually happen to wear one of those watches, um, you know, continue to expand on what they're doing because there's such a a need, if you will, that they're trying to connect these devices and trying to capture the biometrics and where this data and information is going, which I I even believe RFK Jr.
- 7:03at one point was talking about this, which was kind of interesting.
- 7:06So my initial thought process is they're just joining the club and it's going to continue to expand, right?
- 7:13Because where everything is is coming to fruition, you know, they want to jump on that bandwagon and obviously capitalize on us.
- 7:21So yeah, it's unfortunate, but I I do not feel like this is a surprise.
- 7:26Yeah.
- 7:27Dave, what are your thoughts?
- 7:29Kind of like you guys, when I first heard Samsung and Biologics, is like, okay, I thought this was uh like digital technology company, phones and TVs and that sort of thing.
- 7:40But we've all seen the growing amount of products that are built around like wearable health devices, the smart watches that measure things, and I do think that uh there's a lot of potential for good in that product class, but there's also a lot of potential for spying and other BS and there's definitely a lot of red flags there as well.
- 8:05So the first example that comes to mind for me is uh a lot of people now are using continuous glucose monitors within the keto community to find out for them personally for their physiology, what foods spike their blood sugar more than others, and it and those products can provide a lot of really valuable personalized data, but it raises questions of okay, who else then gets that data and what kind of profiles are they making on people and and you know, at the end of the day, it's always about profits, not actually about people's health.
- 8:42So there's a lot of things to be concerned about.
- 8:44Yeah, and I think too, I mean, I didn't realize how big Samsung was until I started researching.
- 8:54And that was kind of scary because as of uh 2024, Samsung was the world's fifth highest brand value.
- 9:04Now, I'm not sure if that includes all of these like diversifications, these branches, these offshoots of Samsung, but to me that was absolutely mind-blowing.
- 9:17So when I think about Samsung, and you guys have mentioned this, you know, we've talked about phones, TVs, we've talked about kind of household appliances, your fridge, uh, your washing machine, all of these aspects, as well as the wearables, like the watches, the rings, um, and all of these things are now becoming quote smart things, right?
- 9:41Like I have a smart things app on my phone, and you can hook into my nephew does this, and I th I I think it's crazy.
- 9:49I won't do this, it's too far for me, but um, he can control his heat, hit all of his lights, everything through his phone, and some of these fridges are.
- 10:00Coming out with AI scanning smart fridges that can tell you what's in your fridge.
- 10:07And I'm just going, oh, this is like this is weird.
- 10:14It's weird, and there's already cause for concern because people with smart thermostats, we've we've already seen this happen where you know they look at what's going on with the power grid and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, you know, all you people with your air conditioning cranked up, we're gonna have to turn the temperature uh up in your house a little bit.
- 10:32You're using a little bit too much electricity.
- 10:34Same thing with dishwashers and that sort of thing, they're being plugged into the grid to the point where I'm sorry, you're gonna have to wait till 11 p.m.
- 10:43before you run your dishwasher because this is just you know, this is a high volume time right now.
- 10:49There's too many people using electricity right now, and any time you give the government that sort of power, it's really problematic.
- 10:57It reminds me of the cars too, with all this smart technology built into them because they would love to have ways to shut your car off remotely at the at the flip of a switch, or I guess the click of a mouse would be more appropriate.
- 11:12And so I am very skeptical about these things in general because it's just going to create opportunities for an authoritarian government to control our lives in ways that are frankly terrifying.
- 11:27Yeah, absolutely.
- 11:28Nicole, what do you have to share about that?
- 11:30I mean, honestly, too, it's really concerning because in this day and age we continue to have a lot of these organizations fail at protecting our privacy and our information.
- 11:39I know ATT just had a huge thing come out, and other large companies that have had data breaches, and the more that you allow these things to continue to be um at that level, you have a easier way of being hacked and having your personal information, your data.
- 11:57And and I'll be honest, one time we had in our house, we would have the um uh garage door opener that we could control through our phone, and when the Wi-Fi went down, we couldn't get into our house.
- 12:09And we learned right away how not good that was and immediately went back to the old school garage door button, but it's just stuff like that, and especially like with the ring cameras and the door locks that they install where you can push and things and they can automatically unlock.
- 12:25If the system goes down, you can't even access your own things.
- 12:28So to know that other people can also easily access you is terrifying.
- 12:34Yeah, it absolutely is.
- 12:36And Samsung is based out of South Korea.
- 12:40I mean, let's just put that right there.
- 12:43Samsung is based out of South Korea, and as I was going through and I was looking, I was like, okay, if Samsung is moving out of electronics and into healthcare, where else is Samsung?
- 12:56And so I'm gonna go ahead and read you a list of the other there are over 80 companies or around 80 companies that Samsung has.
- 13:08Include construction, consumer electronics, which we knew, financial services, shipbuilding, metal s medical services, um research and development stations, um high polymer chemicals, genetic engineering, biotech, aerospace, and of course, nanotechnology.
- 13:34I also saw some stuff, and I think that they're including this in that financial services.
- 13:40I saw health and life insurance included in there.
- 13:44Now I didn't trace back all the strings, and this was just through Wikipedia, but that to me is wild.
- 13:51So we've already talked about and alluded to the fact that we're concerned about data breaches, we're concerned about how much information they can collect, where they can share it.
- 14:03This opens up a whole new level because we know that data is the currency of the future, right?
- 14:10And so if they're collecting our biometrics and everything like that, they have control over, you know, what's happening in our homes, as well as being able to monitor down to what's in your refrigerator.
- 14:24What are they doing with all of that information?
- 14:29So I went down some rabbit holes, and this was before COVID, but I was shopping for a new TV, and I really liked some of the Samsung TVs because of the Q LED screens.
- 14:41And what was weird to me was you know, I didn't want any of the smart technology that came built into it because I was already kind of leery about privacy and stuff like that.
- 14:51But I couldn't find a TV in the size that I wanted that didn't have it built in without it being thousands and thousands of dollars more expensive.
- 15:00And it it made me start asking, like, okay, why is something with less features so much more expensive?
- 15:07Why do they add technology to these TVs and then bring the price down?
- 15:11And the answer to that is like so many other things, it's because you are actually the product.
- 15:18And the price is lowered so much because they want you to have it in your home because the information that it garners off of you is very valuable.
- 15:28And I was astounded by how much the Samsung TV, you know, I assumed that it would track and report what I was watching on my TV back to Samsung, but what I found was it's looking at every single device on your Wi-Fi.
- 15:41It's looking at your neighbors, it's looking at absolutely everything that it can get its hands on.
- 15:46Everything on everyone's phone if it can get it, if if they're within range of your TV.
- 15:53So it was it was alarming, and I can neither confirm nor deny that I might have made some modifications to my Samsung TV to be able to continue to use it for its great picture without any of those uh additional concerning sort of features.
- 16:11And that, my friends, is why we call Dave Brave Dave.
- 16:15And also a dangerous conspiracy theorist.
- 16:18Because he may or may not have made some changes.
- 16:22I was gonna ask, that was one of the things that I was gonna ask is you know, what are some of the conspiracy theories that we hear about or talk about that can fit in with this?
- 16:34Uh and I think Dave just alluded to a big one of those.
- 16:38Do you either one of you want to jump in and kind of add to that?
- 16:44I mean, for me, it could be the fact that they're hacking into the system and there's been conspiracy theories where you're being watched through the TV.
- 16:54They are actually watching and collecting data uh through the TVs, especially the smart TVs, and like Dave said, they're very expensive, high technology.
- 17:04And at one point, uh I think in a previous episode, Dave mentioned as well, and he can elaborate on that.
- 17:09It's like when you're signing up for these TVs and going through the process that like some of this information is eluding that you're willing to look into not only you, or they are not only looking into you, but your neighbors and getting a lot of other information about you because you're subscribing to these programs and everything else that's going on.
- 17:27Yeah, it's in the terms of service, and that screen comes up the very first time you turn that TV on and you have to click I accept before it will let you use your TV at all.
- 17:38So you have to accept that it is going to spy on you in everything you do before you're even allowed to use it if you don't make some modifications to it.
- 17:49Which is absolutely crazy because you know, like you said, they're not just looking at what's going on in your house, but you're consenting for your neighbors if you have neighbors.
- 17:59Imagine what that's like in apartment buildings, how much data can they siphon off of one person's TV?
- 18:09Well, that's something those Alexa devices are known for too.
- 18:12They make neighborhood-wide grids, so even if your Wi-Fi goes down, your Alexa will still be connected to the internet through your neighbor's Alexa.
- 18:22And yeah, when I started finding stuff like that out, I got rid of all the smart devices in my home because I I had all sorts of lights and uh all sorts of things that I just thought were cool to play with that I could control them from a map on from an app on my phone, and all that is uh all that's gone now.
- 18:38And I actually have a um like a yard light timer, like a Christmas light timer attached to my uh Wi-Fi so that all like everything gets shut off overnight when nobody's using it.
- 18:50Yeah, we do the same thing.
- 18:52My kids unplug our Wi-Fi at night, and it messed up my printer.
- 18:56My printer will no longer connect to Wi-Fi, so I now have to use USB cable, which stinks because I miss my Wi-Fi printing, but I'm like, I'm not gonna leave my Wi-Fi on overnight.
- 19:07So Nicole, did you have something to add?
- 19:10I mean, it's just when you think about it, it's so convenient.
- 19:14And that's the problem, right?
- 19:16This is why we have such a problem with the compliance of it and people not thinking it's a problem because when you're busy and we're moving all the time and we don't have time to really stop and think about things, we're all about convenience, especially in America and quick fixes, and it's so nice to be able to go, hey, I've been out all day, I had my AC off.
- 19:35I'm gonna just go ahead and open my phone and turn it on so that by the time I get home, AC's on, or hey, you know, gonna start a load of laundry, or I've even heard some of the refrigerators can like map out what you don't have, so you can make like a grocery list, and so I can see where these things are super convenient and and where people would think that this is a high value type of luxury to want to participate in, but then the
- 20:00Second half of that is is what are you really giving up in order to enjoy this particular luxury?
- 20:06And like you said, where is this data going?
- 20:09Why is it being collected?
- 20:10What is the intention?
- 20:12And some of the wearables I know have been linked to trying to come up with better health initiatives for people that might have other things going on with those rings that they wear, like the aura rings and like you know, the watches, and there's you know, some companies like Dave mentioned that really do have good intentions to want to better things, but then again, it's like, how do you know at some point that those groups aren't going to get bought out by someone bigger, and like now your information's being sold, and it's just like you have no privacy, you have nothing to yourself anymore, and you're constantly being tracked all the time.
- 20:49You know, you know what it reminds me of?
- 20:51It reminds me of that story from years ago where women were finding out that they were pregnant from the targeted advertising that was showing up on their phones.
- 20:59They were all of a sudden, you know, their Walgreens app is telling them you should buy some prenatal vitamins or you should buy a pregnancy test.
- 21:06And they were like, wait, what?
- 21:07Because all the different things that they were plugged into, like the algorithm figured out they were pregnant before they knew that they were pregnant.
- 21:15How does that even happen?
- 21:17Like I miss this.
- 21:18I totally miss this.
- 21:19It I'm dumbfounded and completely surprised.
- 21:23Like that's amazing.
- 21:25And you know, that was one of the conspiracy theories that I was thinking about.
- 21:30You know, this technology, we think that it's not possible in a lot of ways, but this technology is rapidly improving and the network between all these different act aspects because Samsung has the ring, it has the watch, it has the phone, it has the TV, it has the all the things.
- 21:47It creates that network, it pulls all those different pieces of data, and then AI analytics can look at it.
- 21:54You know, how long is it going to be before the TVs actually can assess your you know uh biometrics, your health metrics.
- 22:03Uh can they read facial expressions?
- 22:07Can they tell how effective that propaganda on the news or via advertisements is working, and then adjust the algorithm based on that.
- 22:16I mean, it's terrifying to think, but it I think that's reality.
- 22:20I think that's where we're at.
- 22:22I you guys are both nodding in agreement, and so I think that that's crazy.
- 22:26We've got just a couple minutes before the first half of this show ends, and we really haven't gotten into the whole idea of uh, you know, huh human genome sciences from GSK moving over to Samsung, and we're definitely gonna hit that in the back half of this show, but I think that it's really important for us to lay the groundwork for the expansiveness of what Samsung is doing, because this really is an absolutely wild topic.
- 22:59When you move from the world of electronics data collection and management, AI, and couple that with the medical pharmaceutical industry, this really becomes this dangerous place where you could be manipulated or used um without your knowledge and targeted for a lot of these different products.
- 23:26And so um, we're gonna take a quick break here.
- 23:29When we come back, we're gonna dive in to GSK and um Samsung as you know, what this article that caught my eye was.
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- 27:24Welcome back to the Nurses Report here on America Out Loud.
- 27:27My name is Ashley Grog.
- 27:28I am one of your favorite Friday hosts.
- 27:33As usual, I am joined with Nurse Dave and Nurse Nicole.
- 27:38Today we have been talking about Samsung Biologics.
- 27:42We've also been talking about all of the other industries that Samsung is part of and why we might want to be thinking about what kind of wearables and smart things that we're using and how these technologies can be used against us.
- 27:59Um one of the things that we didn't really talk about was the way that this data and information can be integrated to then apply to different studies.
- 28:26So that way they can test and and research different theories that they have about treatment, and to me that's a huge violation of our privacy.
- 28:39That carries over to this conversation because we talked about how these wearables are collecting that data.
- 28:46It's in South Korea, and it the Samsung entity is extremely diverse.
- 28:54So this original article that I had read.
- 28:58It it's just started out.
- 29:00Um can you guess what state this was in, Dave?
- 29:06Uh G SK.
- 29:08What state G S K was in that was?
- 29:10Oh, probably Delaware.
- 29:11Maryland.
- 29:13Okay.
- 29:13Okay.
- 29:14Um so that's where they're that's where their factory was, right?
- 29:20Yeah, that's where the factory is.
- 29:22So Samsung already has a bunch of factories to do biologics in South Korea, but now they're making it another one.
- 29:30In South Korea.
- 29:31It sounds like they're pretty diversified.
- 29:33We'll we'll get into that.
- 29:34Okay.
- 29:35Um, a leading contract development manufacturing organization, C D M O.
- 29:42So it that's that's a broad blanket.
- 29:45That's Samsung Biologics, is a contract development and manufacturing organization.
- 29:51So not only are they working with different companies, but they're also doing a lot of the manufacturing.
- 29:58Um
- 30:00Announced that they are um they are acquiring a hundred percent of human genome sciences from GSK.
- 30:10The strategic move secures Samsung's Biologic first US based manufacturing site, a significant expansion of the company's global footprint as long term to commitment in the US market.
- 30:24So that's pretty interesting.
- 30:26They're making sure that they have a stronghold here in America, and I'm sure that they're gonna expand across the United States to make sure that they can continue to serve these different areas.
- 30:38Um the facility sits at one of the key US bioclusters and encompasses two manufacturing plants with a combined 60,000 liters of drug substance capacity supporting both clinical and commercial production from small to large scale.
- 30:59Do either of you know much about drug production a little bit.
- 31:05I know we've talked before about how Pfizer produced their mRNA vaccine.
- 31:11Uh, they fermented the RNA using vats of E.
- 31:15coli, and as I understand it, these new Samsung facilities, they're not using E.
- 31:20coli, but they're using things like uh hamster kidney cells for mammalian-based therapeutics and uh and more um sort of synthetic manufacturing processes.
- 31:32Yeah, and that I did not know a whole lot about this whole manufacturing process.
- 31:39So Samsung uses these three terms speed, simplicity, and service in a lot of their stuff, and they talk about how what their goal is is to make sure that their customers through these various different actions have the ability um to work through development um from start to finish very easily, and they're saying that through the acquisition of this GSK facility, they're gonna be able to do that.
- 32:07Um, they're going to continue to diversify the portfolio spanning monoclonal antibodies, antibody drug um conjugates, mRNA, and there are multiple different types of mRNA, organoid-based services, and next generation therapies.
- 32:26And so that just opens the door wide open.
- 32:30Dave, it looks like you have something to say um to that.
- 32:34Oh, yeah.
- 32:35Uh, the this is the future of the pharmaceutical industry.
- 32:39Right now, a lot of the only last remaining pharmaceutical products that are driving huge profits are these biological products.
- 32:49They are things like Key Truda, they are different chemotherapies, they are different treatments for different autoimmune diseases, and these products right now are still generating billions of dollars of revenue and profit for various pharmaceutical companies.
- 33:04And of course, you know, mRNA vaccines are another one.
- 33:08And when you look at some of these older medication classes, well, look at antidepressants.
- 33:13Are there any new antidepressants in the pipeline?
- 33:16No.
- 33:16That medication class is a dead end and they know it.
- 33:19When you look at statins, this is another dead end.
- 33:21They're not working on new statins.
- 33:23They've everything has gone to generic and they uh are on the brink of, you know, they're not making any money off these products anymore, and and the future is with biologics.
- 33:35And, you know, I I think the same is true of even childhood vaccines.
- 33:39I think that the writing is on the wall.
- 33:41So many people have woken up about childhood vaccines that vaccination rates are just going to continue to go down and down.
- 33:49And I honestly think some of these companies are going to embrace that because it's going to create a market opportunity for them to say, like, oh, there was another measles outbreak, but you know what?
- 33:59You can get our biological uh our biologic, our measles monoclonal antibodies, and what they charge for these things is often along the lines of $10,000 of treatment or 10,000 a month.
- 34:13So yeah, I I honestly think that uh um just like it it reminds me of when we talked about Pfizer's new mRNA flu shot.
- 34:24In order to promote the latest greatest mRNA flu shot, they had to acknowledge that the old flu shots are crap and don't work because they have to do that to promote their new mRNA one.
- 34:35And we're gonna see the same thing with the old childhood vaccines, not because they're all of a sudden developing integrity and willing to acknowledge that they've been lying to us for over a century about vaccines, but because the market is going to shift in a direction where they are going to be able to make vastly greater amounts of money off of treating some of these childhood diseases, measles, mum.
- 35:00Rebella that really don't have any high risk of mortality, but they're they're going to say, Oh, well, we have monoclonal antibodies for measles now and mumps now, and it's only $10,000.
- 35:12So here you go.
- 35:13So you look you you bring up a really important point because you know, my mind prior to you saying this, my mind was going the direction of reinventing the childhood schedule with mRNA vaccination or injection.
- 35:30And I don't think people are going to go for that.
- 35:33But what you hit on was the use of monoclonal antibodies, and we look at the use of the RSV jab, poke, vaccine, whatever you want to call it, that is a monoclonal antibody injection.
- 35:46That is what they are using both in pregnancy and after birth.
- 35:51And so it will be really interesting to see if you're right, not only in using antibodies, monoclonal antibodies for treatment, but as the new quote vaccination.
- 36:03So that's a really interesting thing.
- 36:06Historically, the monoclonal antibody injections have not been successful or protective long term.
- 36:14And there's so many, I I don't want to derail because I feel like I could talk about this for hours.
- 36:20It's pretty important because these monoclonal antibody injections have not been long-term effective.
- 36:28Is that best for newborns?
- 36:31And that way, at that vulnerable period, they're not getting these illnesses.
- 36:36But at what point do we push these illnesses off so long that they are now more dangerous?
- 36:44Like you talk about an adult getting the measles.
- 36:47That's much more dangerous than a young child getting the measles.
- 36:50Usually kids bounce right back, no problem.
- 36:53It's supportive care.
- 36:54But adults tend to have a harder run of these childhood illnesses.
- 36:59And so that's a really interesting thing.
- 37:03But like you said, are they just gonna offer you know monoclonal antibodies to help reduce the um complications like they did with COVID?
- 37:14It's gonna be you know, because we heard a lot about monoclonal antibodies in 2020, but as soon as the vaccines came out, they were like, Oh, those don't work anymore, you know, those never worked, uh, don't worry about it.
- 37:26Whereas in 2020, they were they were all the rage, but as soon as they had you know that option of mRNA vaccines, the monoclonal antibodies took a took a back seat.
- 37:36So um, yeah, it's it's uh these the problem is these technologies do have incredible potential for good.
- 37:45The problem is they're in the hands of absolute psychopaths who are always going to prioritize profits first, and they're going to lie about the safety of them, and they're it's all going to be about marketing campaigns and narratives disguised as science, and and so it's it's it's gonna be interesting.
- 38:02Boy, okay.
- 38:04If we could sum up this show right there, a lot of the a lot of these modalities have the power to do a lot of good, but they're in the hands of psychopaths.
- 38:12Okay, go ahead, Nicole.
- 38:14I was just gonna say, because I was looking a little bit more into like Samsung's way of trying to work themselves into the system here, and I'm thinking, okay, are we talking about actual medications where they're part of this, but it's talking about also too um advancing them being able to advance the delivery systems for safe and effective targeting with the way that they use their technology, and then going on to say some things about you know how oral RNA therapeutics could be used for IBD and other drugs can be used to specifically target what's going on with the individual by using the technology that Samsung has the ability to do.
- 39:00And again, hearing that sounds like a great thing, right?
- 39:04Because you're like, oh wow, they're they're really swooping in here trying to help people and trying to you know offer solutions and maybe you know, and suffering when it comes to unnecessary X, Y, and Z, maybe you know, being more focused.
- 39:17But then, like Dave said, you know, as you further go along, what's the what's the takeaway here?
- 39:24Because as we continue to do shows on the nurses' report, we always know that there's zero good intentions that end up being on the side of the consumer, um, and so much more for the organization as a whole.
- 39:35So I just find this is really interesting that this is kind of where they're looking to inject themselves to be able to utilize what appears to be you know the nanopro the nano um technology, the mRNA itself, and how they're using it to target specific issues with cancer and certain disease processes, it's it's quite insane that they would even be able to.
- 40:00Do that.
- 40:01Well, one of the reasons I think that Marty McCarey and Dr.
- 40:04Oz were able to get confirmed in their positions was because they are both pretty gung ho about biologics like this.
- 40:12And the cynical side of me looks at, you know, who had to approve him in our in our um in Washington.
- 40:21And a lot of them have financial ties to to these companies.
- 40:25So when we say Samsung too, it's not like it says Samsung on the bottle.
- 40:29Samsung already has enormous plants that are already doing this in South Korea.
- 40:35And what they're doing is they are the production facility for other companies like Merck and Moderna and things like that.
- 40:43So it's not that, you know, now that they've bought this factory in Maryland, this is coming in the future.
- 40:49These uh Samsung products are already out there in millions of people.
- 40:53They're already doing this at scale.
- 40:56And yeah, there are a lot of red flags here.
- 40:59So fun fact.
- 41:00Fun fact, folks, fun fact.
- 41:03Do I want to make this a game?
- 41:05Okay.
- 41:06How many?
- 41:08Let's play.
- 41:09Who can be closest without going over?
- 41:11How many of the world's top 20 global pharmaceutical companies is Samsung Biologics serving?
- 41:24How many of the world's top 20 pharmaceuticals?
- 41:29Eight.
- 41:31Whoa.
- 41:32Copycat.
- 41:33Um I was gonna I'll go, I'll go six.
- 41:36I don't know if it's as high as we think.
- 41:41Double that.
- 41:42Seventeen.
- 41:43Wow.
- 41:44Wow.
- 41:44Well, double Dave's double down on Dave's number.
- 41:4817.
- 41:49So it's absolutely crazy.
- 41:51Um this was from one of Samsung's Samsung Biologic's press releases.
- 41:57Samsung Biologic also plans to extend its research to the top 40 global biopharma clients with additional expansion into Japan and the broader Asian Pacific region.
- 42:08And I can't help but think that part of the reason they're buying this Maryland or uh acquiring this Maryland-based GSK is because of the United States push to bring production back here.
- 42:21And you know, when you go in and you look at Samsung Biologic's website, it's kind of mind-boggling the breadth of services that they offer.
- 42:30They are offering the the full gamut.
- 42:34It calls it agile mRNA development and analytical testing.
- 42:39They have different processes that they can apply to use those three S's, um, simplicity, speed, and I can't remember the last one, but they apply these processes to the manufacturing, and so that way they can push these, you know, medications or biologics or drugs um through the process faster, get them to clinical stage a little bit quicker, and they're setting all the pieces in place to be able to do that through Samsung.
- 43:10It's absolutely wild.
- 43:12And you know, how much in tax breaks and everything else are these companies gonna get because they're setting up right here in America.
- 43:21These are American-made, these are good companies, there are good people working at these factories that have good jobs because of it, and so it's gonna feed into that whole ideal.
- 43:33I kind of want to, you know, dive in.
- 43:36How are they doing this and how are they being successful?
- 43:40I had read the word organoids, and I had never heard of that word before.
- 43:47Apparently, Nicole is like, oh gosh, this is gonna get interesting.
- 43:50I wish if you guys aren't watching our episodes on America Outloud.news, make sure you do, because Nicole and I are highly entertaining with our facial expressions.
- 44:00Dave, every once in a while squeaks out an eye roll, but they're going up on Rumble on America Out Loud, um Rumble channel, and so you want to watch them because we're hilarious in you know, our facial expressions are priceless.
- 44:14Um, so organoids, Dave, do you know what an organoid is?
- 44:18Is this like uh synthetic synthetic tissue like synthetic kidney tissue or liver tissue, something like that?
- 44:26I don't know that it necessarily has to be synthetic.
- 44:29Um I mean, obviously it's cultured, but they use stem cells to divide into miniature organs, and it apparently can be anywhere from the width of a hair to up to five millimeters, and the purpose is to mimic the tissues in the body, and so they can take and apply whatever pharmaceutical or biologic to these organoid cells and then check efficacy and you know.
- 45:00Look at biomarkers and things like that to tell how well this is gonna work.
- 45:06The reason I bring this up is because the cynic in me is like how long before they use these, you know, organ organoids uh to replace part of that clinical testing process.
- 45:22Or to speed it up.
- 45:25That's just it's just terrifying.
- 45:27Go ahead, Dave.
- 45:28Yeah, I I don't know.
- 45:29I got a lot of thoughts about that.
- 45:31I wonder where they get the stem cells, you know, this is from aborted fetuses.
- 45:36The there are a lot of things coming from that, or or even um, you know, cord blood is something we talked about very briefly when I recently derailed Ashley's episode.
- 45:46We talked about how they cord blood is so valuable because it's loaded with stem cells that are actually incredibly beneficial to baby and mom, but also incredibly valuable for pharmaceutical research.
- 45:58So seems like some of them might be going to Samsung here.
- 46:01I don't know.
- 46:02But I also think about how pharmaceutical companies actually hate testing some of their products on human tissue, they want to avoid doing tests like that because they don't want evidence of harm, and and that's going to be an upcoming episode about antidepressants that we're gonna look at about how um just uh how much an incredible amount of effort is put into not testing pharmaceuticals on human tissue.
- 46:28So I've got questions, I've got concerns again.
- 46:30I can see potential for good here if it's done properly, but yeah, red flags as well.
- 46:36Well, and if it was just early testing, I mean, if they're just kind of it's like, you know, hey, we're gonna do this, we're gonna run these tests to make sure that there's not going to be greater harm to actual human subjects.
- 46:48Yeah, I'd be all on board, but I don't think it's gonna stop there.
- 46:51I think that they're gonna try to use this and then advance it into you know clinical testing.
- 46:56Um it also seems like, and just random thought, it also seems like a product line that uh is going to create lifelong customers when you look at mRNA vaccines and what Pfizer did with them or their mRNA vaccine and the multitude of ways that that turned out to be oncogenic, that that had multiple mechanisms that are plausible for causing cancer, such as SV40 promoters enhancers, such as IgG4 class antibody switching, you have to wonder, okay, are the the biggest markets here are these mRNA products and then cancer treatments.
- 47:36So, like that's actually a fantastic business plan if if you want to, you know, up your profits from the tens of billions to the hundreds of billions, like this this would be this is be a great way to do it.
- 47:49Well, and that's that's a big part of the issue is because Samsung itself prides itself on being a quote end-to-end CMDO or um contract manager.
- 48:03Yeah, you're screwed coming and going.
- 48:04That's what that means.
- 48:08Oh my goodness.
- 48:09Okay, let's get it back together.
- 48:11You know, they they pride themselves on the ability to be seamless in not only the creation of the product, but in the manufacturing.
- 48:24So, you know, it'd be really interesting.
- 48:26We saw some of the issues with the the COVID jabs and how they were done in two different processes.
- 48:32Is Samsung gonna eliminate that ability, or is it gonna kind of, you know, help things derail?
- 48:39Um, they talk about heavily on their website mRNA manufacturing, and it it was really surprising to me because like again, this is not my forte, this is not my expertise.
- 48:55I knew about mRNA.
- 48:57We did a couple episodes about the self-amplifying mRNA, so or self-replicating, um, so that way that can you know replicate itself within the cells, but then I learned something new from this research.
- 49:11There is circular RNA.
- 49:14And so it's just RNA that connects at like three and five or something.
- 49:20I don't know.
- 49:21This is way out of my scope of practice.
- 49:22But um, it is circular RNA and the the take-home facts, and maybe we'd need to have like Nick Holscher back on to talk about this or something.
- 49:31Um but the important thing about this is this um circular RNA, it seems like it doesn't break down through enzymatic action as well, because wherever it joins, that's also where the enzymatic action to break this down.
- 49:47So it has an increased lifespan.
- 49:50Um, and I think it said like 24 to 48 hours, and for me that's concerning because when we look at all these mRNA vaccine injuries or jabs.
- 50:00Injuries, we see how the variability in the uptake of the mRNA and it potentially like reverse transcribing, how that can enhance and exponentially create more problems for these people who are injured.
- 50:18And so this circular RNA kind of creeps me out.
- 50:23Like Dave said, this has the potential to be really amazing because it talks about um how this circular RNA can alter or change genome expression.
- 50:39So the way that your genes are expressed, which you know, for somebody who has an MTHFR mutation and you know is impacted by that, my kids are going to be impacted than that.
- 50:50It impacts pregnancy and all these things.
- 50:52I think, oh gosh, that could be really great.
- 50:54But there's so much we don't know about these technologies and to what extent they are going to alter the genome or expression.
- 51:04It's really terrifying.
- 51:05And so, do you guys have any any thoughts on that?
- 51:11I mean, it reminds me of the conversations around mRNA when the COVID vaccines first came out, and we were told mRNA it goes away right away.
- 51:20It doesn't last in the body very long.
- 51:22But of course, they knew that this was modified mRNA where they were pleased replaced uridine with pseudouridine in order to make it survive in the body much longer.
- 51:32And now we have studies showing people that are still creating antibodies to the spike protein over a thousand days after vaccination, suggesting that their body is still cranking this stuff out.
- 51:46So yeah, uh, and and we can't pretend that they did any sort of robust safety studies with the mRNA products that are already out there.
- 51:56So why would we trust them to do that with things like circular mRNA?
- 52:01They're they're going to they're gonna avoid evidence of harm so that they can say there's no evidence of that because that's the playbook.
- 52:08Well, in this same area, they talk about lipid nanoparticles.
- 52:11So let's go ahead and just throw that right in there and and complicate things and you know, the potential for for more harm.
- 52:18Nicole, did you have anything that you wanted to add?
- 52:21I mean, just go along the lines of all the things that we actually collect ourselves, right?
- 52:26With swabs being sent in, you know, the PCR test, the fact that we have people that are you know getting swabbed for other things, you know, uh flu and everything like where does that eventually go, you know, that information and how easy it is to give up your DNA and different things that these individuals, these organizations can use, and you know, what what is being done with it?
- 52:49Because like you just said, you know, uh you had gone to you know, one of the lab places, and basically they're saying that they can give your information to researchers, and you know, one of the things that we've talked about in the past is you know, we're we're signing these consent forms, we're going into places and we're having certain things done, and we're not reading things very closely, and you know, when you're signing things going to these places, you could be indefinitely signing to having your DNA or tissues or other things that may be collected to be used for all of this, and like you said, how terrifying it is to know that once we start, you know, where does it go from there?
- 53:24So I just think it's obviously it's already happening, it's been happening, you know, genealogy using your stuff for you know ancestry and all that got bought out by BlackRock, you know, where's the say it's gonna stop?
- 53:36But I just think people need to be aware and try to hopefully be a little bit more cautious.
- 53:42Yeah, absolutely, Dave.
- 53:44It's not just the data mining issue either.
- 53:47This is something that I heard Brett Weinstein talk about a few months ago, and so I'm probably gonna butcher this a little bit, but you know, looking at modern warfare and the way that biologics and and biological weapons are part of modern warfare.
- 54:05Boy, if you wanted to destroy a country, if you could take their entire population to take a product that made them more susceptible to a certain pathogen or certain disease that your population was not susceptible to, that would be a really great way to disable your enemy.
- 54:25So, Dave.
- 54:32The we're gonna have to close up shop here real quick.
- 54:37Under the circular RNA information, I was doing some research and it talks about how these discoveries have positioned um circular RNAs as overlooked regulators of many biological pathways involved in cellular homeostasis, viral infection, the immune response, aging, and cancer.
- 54:57And what did that just hit on?
- 54:59Exactly what you're
- 55:00Talking about the immune response, viral infection, um, I mean, even aging and cancer, those are great ways to kill people.
- 55:08Um here's what I'm gonna say.
- 55:11It's me, it's Ashley.
- 55:13You know I can't be doom and gloom and leave this show end on a negative note.
- 55:19So I don't know if you guys know this, but there is legitimate research out there that talks about the power of prayer.
- 55:27It talks about how distance healing is real.
- 55:32They talk about how prayer can change legitimately the makeup of things.
- 55:41You've seen those um studies done, and I can't remember the Japanese, I'm pretty sure he's Japanese scientists who talks about um how praying and saying kind words and things like that change the formation of water um when it's frozen, the crystalline structures.
- 55:58So I'm gonna say that if you are feeling a little hopeless right now and feeling like we've been all sold.
- 56:05I encourage you if you can't take my word for it, go do your own research because that's always a good thing.
- 56:11Look up the research studies on the power of prayer, distance healing, all of these things.
- 56:17And I encourage you to take a few moments every day and pray.
- 56:23Pray over the health of humanity, really, because as much as I hate to use this phrase, we are part of a global community, right?
- 56:34Um, there are people out there across the world just like us, and they're suffering at the hands of corrupt governments and businesses.
- 56:42And so pray for humanity, pray for the strength that that we can all gather together and fight back against these companies that seek to do us harm.
- 56:54I want to thank you all so much for being here.
- 56:56Dave and Nicole, thanks for such a robust conversation.
- 57:00This was like way, way better than I expected.
- 57:03A lot of difficult uh topics to cover.
- 57:06Um, but I hope you all have a wonderful week, and I hope you take heart in the power of prayer.
- 57:12This is Ashley, Nurse Nicole, and David Wayne signing off for the nurses report on America Out Loud.
- 57:21It's time and this is war.
- 57:29It's time and this law.