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Kyle Tucker decision day? Robert Murray joins FT + Clayton Kershaw and Alex Bregman join Team USA · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Godfather, We're gonna stop Eric from his dancing because you're
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: gonna break some news to him right off the jump. Here,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: can you tell your friend Eric, who watches almost every
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Phillies game, what position Bryce Harper plays.
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  Speaker 2: He now plays first base, Eric.
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  Speaker 1: First base. Eric, he's not a catcher anymore. You were
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  Speaker 1: following him when he was a superstar kid in Las
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  Speaker 1: Vegas on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and he does
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  Speaker 1: not catch anymore. Todd, do you want the context of
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  Speaker 1: the story?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to hear the context, because anything that
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  Speaker 3: Eric says is usually gold gold.
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  Speaker 1: So we were talking about the Phillies and how Boba
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  Speaker 1: Schett could fit into the mix, and then how JT.
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  Speaker 1: Real Muto and potentially Alec Boone would fit in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: You'd probably trade bone blah blah blah. Right, So Kratz
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  Speaker 1: is laying out what the positional lineup would look like
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  Speaker 1: for the Phillies and he's like, yeah, and Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 1: at catch. The backstory, Bryce Harper did play catcher back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, so he was having fun with it.
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching the whole segment, and really, if you
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  Speaker 1: know Eric, you know how he's talking. If you cut
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  Speaker 1: that into this little tiktoky clip and then you put
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  Speaker 1: it online. Fans are like what. You have a subset
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  Speaker 1: of fans that are like, this doesn't know ball. Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Harper is a first base, not a catcher. Then you
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  Speaker 1: have a subset of fans who are a little smarter,
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  Speaker 1: who know the backstory that Bryce did catch when he
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  Speaker 1: was a kid, and so they're like, krat they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to move him to catcher. Bryce isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: catch now. They're not going to do that just to
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  Speaker 1: replace real Muto. And meanwhile, I'm like defending him on
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  Speaker 1: a couple of them. And then Kratz just jumps into
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  Speaker 1: one of the replies on Twitter and he was like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I was not kidding. I want Bryce to catch. So
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  Speaker 1: he's just trolling everyone who's so stupid bubbled down.
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  Speaker 2: That's tough. That's tough.
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  Speaker 3: Krasty, know your stuff before you send stuff out. I'm
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  Speaker 3: with the fans. I would have been barking at him too, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I don't know what I'm
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  Speaker 4: talking about. Do you see what my career batting averages?
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  Speaker 4: I know nothing about baseball? Every day, my favorite, my
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  Speaker 4: favorite is every day When I hear this guy talk,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's he knows less and less about baseball.
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  Speaker 5: What a buffoon.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you listen to us every day, so happy,
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  Speaker 4: thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh, of course, twenty years in pro ball, but
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  Speaker 1: he knows nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: Two nine hitter, two nine hitter, brutal than better than most,
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  Speaker 4: better than everybody in the world.
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  Speaker 1: How about two nine hitter yet managed to be a
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  Speaker 1: pro for twenty years?
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  Speaker 5: Brutal?
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  Speaker 4: I got pictures of people. It's either I got pictures
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  Speaker 4: of people steroids. Let's see what else can we clip? Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Todd's friend. That's what happened twenty ten. When we
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  Speaker 4: became friends, I was out of the game. I was
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  Speaker 4: I was leaving the game. I just got called up
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  Speaker 4: to the big Lees. I was leaving the game. Became
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  Speaker 4: friends with Todd. All of a sudden. Every year somebody
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  Speaker 4: would call me to be like, hey, don't you worry
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  Speaker 4: about your game, right, I got it, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna get a job somewhere. We'll take care of
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  Speaker 4: you over here, all right. And I was like, who
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  Speaker 4: is this? And they were like, don't call me back
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  Speaker 4: next year. Same thing so I kept having a job.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for your you and your people, Todd New Jersey
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  Speaker 4: for life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you that one.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody clipped that I love that all right. Anyway, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into the news, Baba charging about We've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about it. This is Todd Father's first show of the week,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll get his thoughts too. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: about Kyle Tucker getting thrown a fifty million dollars a
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  Speaker 1: year offer. It sounds like it could go as high
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  Speaker 1: as four years, so it could be maybe four years,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred million. It probably includes opt outs. But it
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  Speaker 1: also does sound Todd Father like the Blue Jays have
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  Speaker 1: offered something very long term, could be seven, eight, nine,
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  Speaker 1: even ten years on the table for someone like Kyle Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: The easiest part of this before looking into who the
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  Speaker 1: teams are with the location. Is am I wrong to
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  Speaker 1: think that he's going to get way more guaranteed money
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  Speaker 1: from the Blue Jays long term offer than anything else?
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  Speaker 1: And so you take that or is there I guess
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  Speaker 1: more to life than money.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to talk into my mind went
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  Speaker 3: right to what you said. Listen, if he's getting more years, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would assume he's going to get more money.
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  Speaker 2: But does he want options? You know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, in my opinion, I feel like if the
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jays want him for six eight years whatever it is,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna want to lock him down for that six
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  Speaker 3: eight years, no trade clause. All this other stuff without
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  Speaker 3: going to another team will finish his career out there?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to go with the Mets with you know,
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  Speaker 3: some options here and there? I'm glad all this stuff
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  Speaker 3: is starting to come out, because you know, we we
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  Speaker 3: were just waiting for somebody to start talking some money
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  Speaker 3: here because we're January fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Holy cow, we got a month and next thing
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  Speaker 2: you know, boom, we're goore.
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  Speaker 3: But man, if you can get four years for two
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  Speaker 3: hundred million with options, I mean cratzy fifty million a year,
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  Speaker 3: Holy cow. And you're playing down, You're playing in New York.
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  Speaker 3: You're playing for the Mets, understandably, a really good team
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  Speaker 3: that you know in some don't think are going to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty good. Do you want to go the or
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  Speaker 3: do you want to go to the Blue Jays knowing
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  Speaker 3: that you have a big opportunity not only to get
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  Speaker 3: to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, do some damage. It's up to him.
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  Speaker 3: If that's the case, you want longevity or you want
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  Speaker 3: you want the big bang right now and have to
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  Speaker 3: go back in the free agency and do this crap
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  Speaker 3: all over again.
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  Speaker 2: A lot to talk about within the family.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's a big time decisions that I
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  Speaker 4: don't you don't ever have to make or ever had
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  Speaker 4: to make.
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  Speaker 5: But it's all relative.
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  Speaker 4: But if it really is, let's say, what what Scott said,
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  Speaker 4: fifty a year for four years now? Because we heard
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  Speaker 4: it was fifty a year now, could be the fourth year.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's a little less, Maybe it's like one ninety
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  Speaker 4: or something like that. If he were to become the
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  Speaker 4: third highest paid position player, I'm sorry, fourth highest behind
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  Speaker 4: behind Judge, Vladimir Guerrero and Mike Trout, he would get
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  Speaker 4: thirty four a year. And let's say the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 4: say we'll give it to you for eight years, little math,
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  Speaker 4: that's two hundred and seventy two million dollars. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like the Mets, if the two hundred million dollar range
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  Speaker 4: is where it's at. I feel like the Mets answered
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  Speaker 4: the question that I pose last week. How much is
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  Speaker 4: enough for a short term deal? Because I'm sorry, you
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  Speaker 4: ain't opting out of a You ain't opting out of
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  Speaker 4: a fifty million dollars a year contract that's gonna pay
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  Speaker 4: you for the next three years after this season if
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  Speaker 4: he has a career type of year, because you just
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  Speaker 4: like the numbers are getting close. The numbers are getting
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  Speaker 4: really close. If the number is two hundred million.
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  Speaker 1: if he has the best year of his life, right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you take his year from two years ago
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  Speaker 1: and that was half a season, and then you play
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  Speaker 1: that out for a full season and he's like a
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  Speaker 1: ten win player. Okay, he does that, And then let's
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  Speaker 1: take the CBA situation and lock that out of the
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  Speaker 1: moment first dep right, and just say, hey, he's got
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  Speaker 1: another normal off season coming up. You think he would
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  Speaker 1: keep his deal for another year. His stock would be
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  Speaker 1: even higher. And we don't know what the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the market looks like. But the whole heer, the whole
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  Speaker 1: point of doing this from a financial standpoint is that
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  Speaker 1: let's say the Blue Jays are offering fifteen plus less
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  Speaker 1: per year. Let's say it's even twenty. Just for the
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  Speaker 1: case of the exercise. Let's say the Mets are offering
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  Speaker 1: fifty year. Blue Jays are offering thirty a year. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Mets are offering four years, two hundred million fifty a year.
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays just again, don't hold us to this crowd.
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  Speaker 1: We're just playing easy math here. Yeah, thirty million a
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  Speaker 1: year from the Blue Jays over ten years, three hundred
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. The guaranteed money is significantly higher, but you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be committed to a much longer term contract
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  Speaker 1: and you could play out this one season, make twenty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars more and then hit free agency again. So
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  Speaker 1: Todd father, I give you both of those contracts. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and you're Kyle Tucker, which one do you want? You
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  Speaker 1: want to do? Because if you're looking at it that way,
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  Speaker 1: you're essentially looking at it as hey, this is a
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  Speaker 1: one year contract. I'm Alex Bregman, I'm pee a Lonzo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm everybody else that has done this game, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to take less guaranteed committed dollars because usually the
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  Speaker 1: players are going for the most guarantee. But is there
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  Speaker 1: a line? I think this is what Kratz is getting
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  Speaker 1: at where you go there's such a difference in average
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  Speaker 1: annual value, right the number I'm getting paid for next year,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm down to play my hand one more time
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  Speaker 1: in free agency and make that three hundred long term
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  Speaker 1: offer a four hundred plus. I added a fifty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars in that one season where I was in limbo.
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  Speaker 3: I might be biased towards this because I've been in
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  Speaker 3: free agency three different times and my biggest issue is
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  Speaker 3: going back to free agency the unknown you know, oh,
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  Speaker 3: well we heard from this team they might want you. Well,
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  Speaker 3: this team just said if they don't get this guy,
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  Speaker 3: they're coming for you. Like the unknown part really bothered me,
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  Speaker 3: and that, you know, and that's like an any job
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  Speaker 3: I think would bother everybody, Like you know, if you
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  Speaker 3: work in corporate somewhere and they're saying, we might send
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  Speaker 3: you to Denver or Chicago, Like, there's certain different things.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to go back to free agency anytime soon.
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  Speaker 3: That's just my feeling. If I could have signed a
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  Speaker 3: free agent deal for five, six seven years, which didn't happen,
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  Speaker 3: which was unlikely, but if I had an opportunity to,
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  Speaker 3: I probably would take that longevity.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing I am set.
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  Speaker 3: For life, I am with an organization that really wants me.
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  Speaker 3: I like it here hopefully, But even if you don't
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  Speaker 3: like it there you're still making a lot of money
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  Speaker 3: and you still got to go perform. So for me,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to go back in free agency ever again,
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  Speaker 3: knowing what I can get right now, and I hear
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  Speaker 3: what you're saying, Scott, go back and you can make
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  Speaker 3: even more. There's no Givens man, There is no Givens
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  Speaker 3: in this world year by year basis.
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  Speaker 1: And he's had injuries back to back seasons, which we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about is part of the reason why he's probably
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  Speaker 1: being dinged a little bit during the free agent process. Krats.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring up one more point from Fair Territory, which
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  Speaker 1: was live right before our show and is a good
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  Speaker 1: listener watch. After our show with Ken Rosenthal and Alana Rizzo.
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  Speaker 1: Ken was just talking about like the rumors around Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Tucker and his personality. Ken's covered him, I've covered him.
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  Speaker 1: Most of us know Kyle Tucker at this point. He's
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  Speaker 1: been in the league for a while. He's definitely not boisterous.
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  Speaker 1: He is more low key, nonchalant. The whole deal right,
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  Speaker 1: there is this thought process that he might not want
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  Speaker 1: to play forever. It's not like Anthony Rendon status. But
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  Speaker 1: I think what they were getting at on that show.
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  Speaker 1: Was a ten year deal means you are committed to
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  Speaker 1: playing ball through what thirty eight years old. Not every
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  Speaker 1: player will want to do that. You know, Kyle Tucker
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  Speaker 1: might be like, Yo, I'm going to give hm my
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  Speaker 1: all for another five or six and then I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you sign a ten year contract, you
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  Speaker 1: need to fulfill the contract. You're playing for ten years
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  Speaker 1: in Toronto, right So there is a chance it's not high,
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  Speaker 1: but there is a chance that he looks at that
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  Speaker 1: and says me, I don't want to play ten years.
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  Speaker 1: And if the Blue Jays are like, hey, we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to keep the average annual value down because we want
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  Speaker 1: you to play with the most talented players possible, and
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  Speaker 1: we get destroyed on luxury tax numbers, which is a
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  Speaker 1: soft salary cap which we always talk about. So just
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  Speaker 1: floating that out there, if you think there's any chance
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  Speaker 1: that there's a player who's not Anthony Rendo in status
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  Speaker 1: where he doesn't want to play baseball at all, but
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  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily want to play for ten years with one
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  Speaker 1: spot right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Listen, I get it. Probably Kyle Tucker has no
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  Speaker 4: social media. He's probably not even looking at a lot
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  Speaker 4: of this stuff. But his agent is his agent gets
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  Speaker 4: five percent of this contract. If that were not the case,
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  Speaker 4: if the like, you know, excitement about a ten year deal,
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  Speaker 4: if there was you know, hey, I'm not nonchalant. I'm
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  Speaker 4: more like this, this would have been the time where
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  Speaker 4: they're like, hey, you know what, we're gonna get ahead
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  Speaker 4: of this. We're going to do these things. When the
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  Speaker 4: media portrays somebody a certain way and they don't really
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  Speaker 4: buck up against that or nobody else speaks out against that,
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  Speaker 4: that's probably how it is.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what, if he.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't want a ten year deal, totally good with that.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think he's going to get in the
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  Speaker 4: range of like eight years, forty million, like where they
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  Speaker 4: would you know, meet in the middle kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe his best bet, and it would he would have
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  Speaker 4: to understand his comfort level, his family's comfort level, everything
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  Speaker 4: about what it means to play in New York. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not saying the media is going to just crush you
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  Speaker 4: because he doesn't say much, but there's there's a there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of obligations to the stars in New York,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's a Mets or the Yankees, and I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a really really fun case for us because we
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  Speaker 4: just get to watch it and sit back and see
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  Speaker 4: what exactly, you know, what actually transpires. But he has
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  Speaker 4: to go through it every single day and wherever he chooses.
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  Speaker 4: People don't understand, like the length of a season is
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  Speaker 4: a grind. And then when you sit there and go,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta be up here for ten years. I got
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  Speaker 4: to do this. I've heard it. I've heard future Hall
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  Speaker 4: of famers say, and I'm so glad I don't have
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  Speaker 4: three more years, five more years on my contract. And
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  Speaker 4: these were guys that were still playing really well. Because
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: it's it's a lot, it's more than people think.
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  Speaker 1: Also, some guys lose it at a certain age, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't know when that is going to be. But
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  Speaker 1: most players are not good at thirty eight. It's just
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  Speaker 1: how it is these days. Most players are not good
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  Speaker 1: at thirty eight years old. There was a steroid era
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  Speaker 1: where guys were extending there careers a lot, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course there are plenty of outliers that still play
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  Speaker 1: at you know, whatever age, like Aeric Kratz, Yes, Eric
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  Speaker 1: Kratz playing at what age? Did you retire?
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  Speaker 5: Forty forty?
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  Speaker 4: Best youar ever one of the top five Yankees batting
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  Speaker 4: averages of all time career. But that's okay, Todd, don't
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  Speaker 4: worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine if you're Kyle Talker and you've been great every year,
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  Speaker 1: You've been like a superstar, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you hit thirty five and you're not good, and you
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  Speaker 1: still have three four years left on your contract. It's
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: tough living. I mean, we kind of saw that with
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  Speaker 1: the DJ le Mayhew just now. I mean, injuries biting
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  Speaker 1: you too. That happens. So it just a lot to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: think about. And yeah, last point, and then I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to the report.
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  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, is he a superstar?
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  Speaker 4: We had this argument before and now we're talking about
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  Speaker 4: superstar money, Todd, is he a superstar? There's a difference
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  Speaker 4: between a superstar, all star, sometimes all star.
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  Speaker 5: And then regulars. I think he's a star, not a superstar.
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  Speaker 2: No. I think I think he's really really good, really
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  Speaker 2: good baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Player, superstar, and his personality sometimes skews people from thinking
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: that he's a superstar. But I think his productivity on
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the field is superstar quality. I do it depends how
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: many superstars you have on your list. But anyway, something
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to think about.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Let's get my superstar list is a handful of people,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, and you're saying, you're saying Kyle Tucker
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: is in that tight group for you, Scott.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: My superstar list isn't as tight as yours.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying that my.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Like your your superstar list might be what ten, and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: mine might be more like maybe, right, Okay, mine's larger
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: than that. Mine's probably like I'm looking at the top
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: fifteen position players in the top tennis pitchers something like that. Right,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: take that's a much larger list.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Takers, picture pictures out of it. I was just thinking
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: hitters wise in mind.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Okay for hitters though, still like you might have seven
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and I might have fifteen, and that's a big difference.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: So I think he's afteen player in the sport, all.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm saying, right, hold on, I want I want
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: to get this the fifteen in the sport or as a.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Hitter, I have fifteen position players. Probably I haven't done this.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just roughly estimating I probably have fifteen position players
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: as superstars, and some people might only have five to seven,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and you probably have a smaller.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: List, right, Yeah, I just wanted to make sure people
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: understood like what your answer was to as well, that's
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: all not trying to come back and fight you with it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to hear exactly that's all.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, fighting Todd did it?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Fan Sided insider FT insider Robert Murray with us on
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a busy day, Kyle Tucker news maybe coming today? What
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: do you think, Robert.
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: H First of all, I love the intro at Cooper
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: in there, so I got to give you guys your
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: shoutout for that. But I definitely do think that today
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: might be the day for the Kyle Tucker resolution. And honestly,
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: it's anyone's guessing where he's going, but we're definitely we're
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: close to a resolution here. Okay, yeah, why why just
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: the signs continue to point to a decision being made. Uh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: there is silence from a lot of folks involved, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: anyone who is anyone who I've talked to, expects it
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: to be soon and quite possibly today. That's the indications
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: that I've gotten.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Well does that mean.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, we're we're we're so excited about the Today
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: news there that we're like, okay, we I want to
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: get to the bottom of it. Does that mean, in
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: a situation like this, is there a chance that there's
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: some back and forth still or is it offers are
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: out now it's Kyle's turn to make the decision. No more,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: no more back and forth? Is that where we've gotten
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to most likely?
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know exactly where the current state of
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: talks are, but I think you can make the case
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: for both. Is like, we're obviously pretty deep into the
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: offseason here, we're less than a month away from pitchers
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: and catchers reporting. But also too, like he still hasn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: signed yet, and you have three teams. You have the Mets,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: you have the Dodgers, and the Blue Jays all involved
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: in this. He has not signed yet. So if you're
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: a team and you want to convince him to come
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: to your city, come to your team, maybe make a
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: last second move where all of a sudden it's like, Okay,
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: we really want you. Here's an extra ten million, here's
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: an extra whatever incentive, whatever it takes to get him.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: So I can see both being the case, But I
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: don't know for sure what point we're at quite yet.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: With that, you said the Mets, Dodgers, blue Jays.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Can you see another team that nobody's talking about right now,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: kind of swoop in there, or these are the final
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: three in your opinion, You.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Know, that's something that I've been asking around about because
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: usually at this point of the offseason or even before this,
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: we hear about a mystery team being involved, and we
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: haven't heard that yet this. In my indications, I think
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: it's those three teams that are in it at this point,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: and you can make the case for any one of
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: those teams, Like you look at the Mets. I reported
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: the other day that their offer was for fifty million
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: a year short term deal, and then you heard Mike
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Puma of The Post mentioned that it's a four year offer.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: So if you combine those two reports, four for two hundred,
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: that looks pretty pretty darn good. And I mean, I
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: know it's for me, that'd be pretty tough to turn down.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: I can't lie about that. But then you have the
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: Blue Jays who are reportedly offering a long term deal,
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: and I don't necessarily know the specifics of that. But
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: like one thing that I've I've mentioned a lot of
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: my podcast, The Baseball Insiders, and I'll mention it here too,
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: is you hear people be like, why why would Toronto
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: be a destination You hear people kind of criticize Toronto. It's
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: a great place to play, man. You have an unbelievable city,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: you have that entire fan base and entire country behind you,
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: and it's like a super desirable place to play, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: you're also going to having a chance of winning a
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: World Series. So to me, that's incredibly enticing and incredibly intriguing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: And I think the Blue Jays are absolutely a serious
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: player here. And then you have the Dodgers, where we
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: haven't heard much there whatsoever as far as reports go,
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: which you wonder what exactly that could mean. But I
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: think all three of these teams are a threat. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: as I said before, I think a resolution is around
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: the corner.
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: But maybe it's today.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Maybe I think it might be today, But it's up
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: to Kyle Tucker, so only he knows at this point.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: So we should have had Kyle Tucker on and not
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Robert Murray. I get it. I got it. That's totally fine.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I got it. Boy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: I wish the wouldn't that be something?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be that would be how we could
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: break the news. But one thing I brought up before,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and maybe it's not something that you've even experienced or seen.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: But should Kyle Tucker be out there trying to kick
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: against the narrative that he's non shalant laid back if
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: it wasn't true, and so if it, if he's not
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: kicking back against it, then it's probably true. And at
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: some point we'll have to figure out how much money
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: that cost him. That like kind of just his his
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: aura of just being like, eh, you know what, bro,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I got this.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: No, Like, he's definitely a chill guy. I've spent some
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: time around him. He's a chill guy. He's very relaxed,
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: very reserved. But I don't know if i'd necessarily interpret
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: that as someone who doesn't love baseball or I don't know.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: I've seen the different reports there. I don't necessarily know
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: what I think of those. I know if it was
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: me that I would probably fight back against those. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: that being said, he's his own guy, and I don't know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: He's still getting to make it a whole lot of
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: money here, whether it's fifty million from the Mets or whatever.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: He's ended up getting offer from the Dodters in Blue Jays.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: So did it cost him money? I don't know, But
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: that being said, like he's one of the most talented
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: players baseball. I heard your guys' debate before I hopped on.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I absolutely I think I would put him in a
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: superstar category. I just heard Todd mention the star category.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Either way, you can't go you can't go wrong. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: he'll get he'll get his due. I have no doubts
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: about that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: We gotta have a whole We gonna have a whole
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: breakdown of Robert superstars, Todd superstars. I think I think
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: it's fun. It's like aces and number ones. It's that
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: whole debate.
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: No, it's maybe maybe that's for the next show. How
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: about that? Should we have an entire show just breaking
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: that entire thing.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Done once Manfred?
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Once Manfred sets a trade deadline, then we have nothing else,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: or a signing deadline, then we have nothing else to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: chat about, because it would just be one day no
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: one else can sign and we'd be like, all right, Robert,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: what's your favorite ice cream?
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: All that stuff, but.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Chocolate chip cookie though, by the way.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: All right, so now we'll kick this around. It was
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: breaking news right as the show started. Clayton Kershaw is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: going to be a part of Team USA. We just
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: spoke to Mason Miller about it, and he's excited to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: have him as part of the crew. Remember, there's a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: backstory here. There was insurance complications last time around, which
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: usually to me Kratz just means that there was too
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: much money to pay for Kershaw based on the mileage
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and whatever injuries that he was having, because you have
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to pay insurance fees here for the players. I believe
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the way it works is that the league covers that
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: because the league is the one that's cashing out hardcore
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: on this, and so they're able to cover the insurance rates.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But maybe they were at an impasse, you know, just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: throwing it out there. It's like maybe most of the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: players cost X and they were like, we're going to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: charge you double or triple because we don't love the medicals.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: He's had injuries, he's late career, blah blah blah. Right,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that held him back last time around. This time,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about that. He's not pitching
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: again in the major leagues. He already retired, so you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: don't need the insurance policy like you did, and he
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: can join the team. I will read a recent tweet
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that came out like second to go Alden Gonzalez saying
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it's his final act for Team USA in the World
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, a tournament that he was denied participating in
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: three years ago. He will be pitching. This is the key,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: probably only in an emergency. Isn't that kind of how
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it was for him? This past postseason? He made one appearance,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: right from what I remember, it was the one appearance
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: which was important, no doubt in the marathon important.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he ate innings. I think the rosa's smart.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: But it's also like, let's not prop the brakes. This
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: is gonna do. That's gonna come out and say, yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I'm ready to pitch, and he's gonna be eighty two.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Clayton Kershall is gonna be the exact same guy he
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: was the last entirety of his career, and he's gonna
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: give you quality innings whenever that is. And you don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: have to throw a Mason Miller who is on a
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: strict pitch county, strict usage limit. And this is an
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: advantage for the team if they get a huge lead,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: or god forbid, if they fall behind big, they need
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: somebody to be able to eat these innings. That say, okay,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: we're not using you. We can't use you on back
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to back days. And I mean in twenty three, So
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: basically in twenty three he was making twenty million dollars.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: That insurance policy is going to be quite large. Three
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: years before that, he was making thirty one million dollars,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: three years before that, he was making thirty four million dollars.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: And with the injury history, Yeah, I get it. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: get that that's tough. And I don't one hundred percent
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: know that Major League Baseball's covering it. The only reason
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I say that is because I thought part of it
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: was based on each each corporation, each coalition, the team USA,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: team Canada. You know where they're they're covering. Do they
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: get stipen from Major League Baseball? I'm not one hundred
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: percent sure on that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and we'll see.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about an emergency situation shouldn't be
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: all hands on deck, So I don't know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I hope that's not the case. You know, because you might.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: You're gonna need him to pitch eventually, you know, say
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: a guy goes down, or you know there's a there's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: a game where they need a lefty to come in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: so I hope the USA is picking accordingly and it
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I just hope that you know, if he's
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: on the team, they're gonna play.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I know there's some position players that don't play sometimes,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: but they're gonna need every pitcher they can get, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that's definite in these in these World Baseball Classics, for sure.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say like last man on the bench,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but it is kind of like that, or it appears
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that way. Do you guys know what I'm saying where
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, he's more of the emergency guy we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: gonna see and maybe I'm wrong, right, We also don't
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: know how he's going to feel. I mean, Clinton Kershew
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: is not preparing for a full season. He's preparing for
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a World Baseball Classic. That's a little bit different. Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He can go in there and just feel really good
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and can't and then blow it out for a few outings.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He could, right if he feels like the arm's good. No,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you don't think Sokratz, right, No, he doesn't have to
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: do the same arm maintenance that you would have to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do for a full season.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I just think I have a hard time believing he's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: gonna lie and be like, no, I got this and
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: not be good like he had a three er last year.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Like he's gonna go out and get outs. Are you
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: starting him in the finals against Japan.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: No?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: No, But like he's gonna go out and get outs,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: he's going to be a productive piece of this team.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: As a guy who was at the end of his
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: career asked to play for, I was asked to play
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: for the eventual silver medal winning Olympic team. I knew
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: there was a lot that you have to do to
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: prepare to go into that. Yes, and you couldn't as
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: much as they said, it's your team, you can be on.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: What you do.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I would not have done that to my teammates, to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Team USA, to anybody and said all right, I'm rolling
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: out of bed on on July third and I'm joining
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the team. No chance. That would have been disingenuous to
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: the guys who you're trying to accomplish something and win
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: a gold medal.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Agreed, this is this is serious stuff, man.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I help people want putting the USA on and representing
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: your country, even if it's a World Baseball Classic. Kratzy
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: and I played for. I played for three different USA teams.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he played for three plus maybe a bunch more.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: But when you put that on, man, there's a different
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: there's a different sound, it's a different feeling, it's a
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: different vibe. When you come off that bus representing your
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: country and everybody knows USA is coming in town. I
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: promise you you're gonna get the best of the best
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: coming after you, and they want to beat you, whether
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it's a pool play game, a championship game, or a
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: World you know, a gold medal match, if they can,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: if they smell blood, they're gonna freaking find a way.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And it's intense.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And I remember the first time playing in Port Saint
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Lucie in the trials to get to Tokyo for the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you know, for the Olympics, and we're playing Nicaragua and
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: they went up one nothing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: It was unmatched. It was unbelievable because we're playing in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Florida and seventy eighty percent of cheering against you. It
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: was crazy. These people came out of the woodwork.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So Kratzy knows the feeling we all do down in Miami.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a different vibe.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: We know we got different cultures down there, and it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: gonna be so cool.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: What if he feels too good? What if what if
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it's coming out of the arm real nice? He's like,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't throw it all this offseason,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and that's actually no Beer League, Beer League right where.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He's like, I didn't touch a baseball until just now,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and now it feels really good.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Fucking Scott, And I'm sure I'm sure Todd can can
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: definitely agree with me on this, on this thing. Your
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: wife is already in there making your plans. That summer
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: is filled up. Clayton, summer is filled up. Ain't no
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: way he's he's going and saying, I played that long?
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Can I get one more? I know we're supposed to
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: do this with the kids. We're supposed to go to
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the mall D's, we're supposed to go to Greece. We're
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: supposed to go to Grandma's for July fourth. I might
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: miss it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Nope, Nope, Clayton.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Unless Clayton says, now I'm feeling it now. No, I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: don't know, don't don't do it. He already said it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: She's she's gonna be like, time to be home, Clayton.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: We'll see, or if he says, did you see what
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: David Robertson did? Honey? He actually enjoyed half of a
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: baseball season at home. We got some summer activities, picnics outside,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and then he.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Must be throwing if they need him for an inning,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: and he like hits like ninety five.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Worried like hay, now I'll need that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I want to see it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I want to see it anytime Scott like sits a
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: certain way, it looks like I got hair.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: When it goes up to the screen, yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, take your hat off real quick. Don't show it's
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: the team. Don't move right there.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Oh my shot?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Screenshot it? Hold on.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: They did?
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Or me, yes, somebody will. There's a reason I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: have hair.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: If I had hair, Oh my gosh, the arrogance that
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: would be coming out of this mouth if I had
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: hair unbelievable.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you. If I had hair like you, Todd
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: or Scott.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a great photo.
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  Speaker 2: You're gross.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, it's really good. This, by the way, is a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: nice shirt. It's called the Friar Territory og logo shirt
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: right here at Friar Territory shop dot com. And if
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you want hair for one of your friends, you can
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: do the same thing. I wore it today because Mason
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Miller was on the show. Anyway, next part of the conversation,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: as we get back to BIZ, Alec Bregman is going
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to be a part of the World Baseball Classic four
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  Speaker 1: Team USA. Bregman did not participate last go around. This time,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm playing, signed up long term. Let's
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  Speaker 1: do this right now. You get to live out all
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of your dreams. So Bregman's back. Guess what Team USA
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  Speaker 1: starts to play in Houston, Texas in front of probably
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: quite a few Astros fans. So this is going to
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: be a blast. I mean, look at life for Alex
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  Speaker 1: right now. He gets to have fun with Boston. Then
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he gets to spurn Boston and be like, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: pay enough, no respect for me. Bye, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs. And then he gets to play WBC go
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: back to Houston and be like, here's what you're missing.
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  Speaker 1: This is a fun little stretch of time.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely is.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the driver's seat here, a couple of different contracts.
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  Speaker 2: He's loving life.
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  Speaker 3: Going back to Houston to kind of finish out what
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  Speaker 3: he started there.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could say.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sure he's gonna play there again, because everybody
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: plays everybody in Major League Baseball now, So I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. It'd be a nice little homecoming for him,
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  Speaker 3: and hopefully he can represents starting to become a really
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: nice looking team for USA.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's fun too, because he's
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: been on the sixteen you team, the eighteen YOU team,
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  Speaker 4: the college team, and he's already played WBC. But I mean,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: my guy's a Team USA fixture. They might be, depending
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: on how they do they win this thing. I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: he's got some victories under his belts other years when
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  Speaker 4: he was doing it. I don't know, maybe maybe one
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of the best Team USA players of all time. He's
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: no Ben Sheets.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: I get it. Ben Sheets won the gold medal. You
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: know you're you're locked in when you win the gold medal.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know huspragmants putting together a nice little
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  Speaker 4: Team USA.
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  Speaker 5: Resume.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eight though, he'll still be in the bigs.
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  Speaker 1: He'll still be kicking, He'll still be.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like he's got another one that he can play.
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  Speaker 4: But right, wow, it just it just amped it up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we can't. We can't not have it on there.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, come on, uncle Bob.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: We gotta I think Uncle Bob's gonna improve it.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I do that you're making you're making their money.
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  Speaker 5: You're making their money in WBC.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I was told from people on the inside
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  Speaker 4: that the reason they never allowed it before, even like
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  Speaker 4: entertain the thought was because not because of the season
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: change or what that would have meant. It was because
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: of the fact that they wanted to make sure their product,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: which is WB, the WBC was making the cash was
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: definitely the premier event because baseball is not always in
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: the Olympics. It's only in the Olympics when it's when
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: it's held in cities or countries that won it in
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  Speaker 4: the Olympics. Baseball and softball are I forget what they're
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: called preliminary events where they have like they have to
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  Speaker 4: choose to have it in And obviously when it was
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: in Japan, baseball is a big sport. When it was
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: in you know when it's going to be in La
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Baseball is a big sport. But it's one of those
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  Speaker 4: things that it is. It was huge that they came
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  Speaker 4: up with the WBC, but it also took players away
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  Speaker 4: from probably at this point we should have had all
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  Speaker 4: big league players in the Olympics.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, thanks for that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: You get other opportunities, and because Japan loves to put
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  Speaker 4: their big leaguers in there, So just saying, just saying,
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  Speaker 4: we got to keep.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Up, yeah, and I think they will. That decision should
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: come at some point, maybe over the next year, to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: find out if MLB is going to be participating with
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  Speaker 1: their players in the twenty twenty eight Olympics. Bo Bet
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: MGM Futures regular season wins, Phillies ninety and a half
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  Speaker 1: over under. We got a lot of these lately, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these just in that like ninety ish range.
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  Speaker 1: I know where I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm stuck on this one because they they still got
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a couple moves to make. It's so hard. I can
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: easily see them going over ninety wins. I can easily
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: see them doing it. I don't know this one here
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  Speaker 3: I would say, I would say, I would say.
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  Speaker 2: Over, but not by many right now I would I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I think this one's kind of easy. This is one
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  Speaker 1: that I really like. I think the Phillies are more
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: like a ninety five win team. I mean, Kratz gives
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: me shit sometimes because I call them a regular season team.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But I've been right about that the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Still is the case. Really strong starting staff, really stable superstars.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: The bullpen looks nice. There should be more on the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: way too, in terms of the young position players actually
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  Speaker 1: and pitchers Andrew Paynter, Aiden Miller, Justin Crawford to supplement
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  Speaker 1: what they already have. There's still moves to be made.
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  Speaker 1: I like this one, Kratz. I would be shocked if
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  Speaker 1: you told me that the Phillies only won like eighty
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: eight games.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's like we had yesterday. I
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: do like the Braves at eighty seven and a half
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: the over the eighty seven and a half. I thought,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I thought both these teams are a plus ninety win team.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I think the division is going to allow them to be.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: I think the Phillies have historically struggled the last few
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: years against the Mets. But if the Mets don't make
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: any moves here the rest of the all seasons, like
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: where are they actually going to be? The Nats aren't
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: trying in the sense of like building a stronger team
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: they're developing. You know, they brought in all their college coaches,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: and then the Marlins are going to be a good
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: pitching team. That if they keep some of their pitching,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: which shows that they're getting rid of a lot of
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: their pitching. So to me, I think the Braves and
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: the Phillies are plus ninety one. I mean, I would
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: have had a tough time with his number if it
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: was like ninety two. But I like the over on
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: both them, and the Braves love it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's remind everyone where they can find us coming
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: up in person. Actually, in first off, you can hang
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: out with Krats online. He's got another bet MGM online
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: poker tournament coming soon, jumping into a Little Poker Spade
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Online Championship. That stuff kicks off January eighteenth and run
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: through feb one, so Krats will be playing. We might
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: get a few of us involved online. Look out for
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Krats and see how you stack up against. Bruce Banner
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: is the user name for Krats. If you want to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: throw moochi's at him while you're playing against him, if
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you want to play poker against us in person, yeah
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it does, but he gets you more serious in person,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: where Todd Father returns to Redsveat on Saturday to try
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and win a title again. And then on Suday it's Todd, father,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Danny Graves, and myself doing a little Q and A.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Fans that are there get to ask questions. There's hard
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: hitters to Todd and Danny. Twelve o'clock Eastern time is when?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Or actually is it Central time that we're out there?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Is Cincinnati Eastern Eastern?
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: My bad? So yeah, it is Eastern time. Twelve o'clock
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Eastern time, Sunday, January eighteenth, go hang out with us
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: at Tom's Watch Bar at the Banks that's right next
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to the ballpark. And then the day before that will
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be in that open tournament. It starts at three o'clock
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: local time, East Coast time on Saturday, so we'll be
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: flying out tomorrow