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6/8/26: Iran & Israel Exchange Fire, Trump Rage Quits Interview, Pentagon Warns Of Israeli Spying · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 1: What do you have, Crystal?
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, we do a whole lot of breaking news this morning.
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  Speaker 2: In the Middle East, Deron Stark Israel. Israel retaliated even
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  Speaker 2: though Trump told them not to. We will let you
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  Speaker 2: know what we can figure out about where things stand
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Trump also with an explosive interview with Kristen Welker,
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  Speaker 2: almost literally massive rain and thunderstorms in the background.
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  Speaker 4: He raged quit at one point. There were a lot
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  Speaker 4: of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Comments about Iran so we'll break that down for you
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  Speaker 2: as well. Intel community is raising the red flag about
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  Speaker 2: Israeli unhinged, that's their words, spying efforts against the United States.
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  Speaker 3: about this Israeli spy story. I have some exclusive details
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and start with all of these breaking developments.
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  Speaker 3: Missiles flying all over the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so if you will rewind, if you will to
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  Speaker 2: last week, you'll recall that Saga and I brought to
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  Speaker 2: you the news that supposedly Israel.
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  Speaker 4: And Lebanon had a ceasefire.
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  Speaker 2: This was very significant because Iran has always said Lebanon
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  Speaker 2: needs to be included in the ceasefire, and there is
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  Speaker 2: no ceasefire if Lebanon is not included. However, almost immediately
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  Speaker 2: Heswela came out and said, we don't agree to this
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  Speaker 2: because this includes the IDF remaining in Lebanon and forces
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  Speaker 2: are withdrawal. So they continue to fire on northern Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Israel continue to fire at Lebanon and Beirut in particular.
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  Speaker 4: And Iran, rather than.
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  Speaker 2: Standing back and watching this and effectively, you know, looking
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  Speaker 2: like they're not good to their word and that this
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  Speaker 2: is at an important red line, did something quite extraordinary here,
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  Speaker 2: and they decided to go ahead and strike inside of
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  Speaker 2: Israel for the first time in quite a while. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and take a listen to Trey Yengs, Fox
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  Speaker 2: News correspondent who was on the ground there as this
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  Speaker 2: was unfolding.
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  Speaker 4: This is breaking news.
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  Speaker 5: Iran is launching a missile attack against Israel as we speak.
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  Speaker 5: Sirens are currently sounding across the northern city of Haifa,
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  Speaker 5: Israel's third largest city. We will be live on Fox
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  Speaker 5: News with this update. We do expect more information shortly.
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  Speaker 5: But again, these launches are coming from Iranian territory and
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  Speaker 5: are in response to the Israeli strikes against the Lebanese
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  Speaker 5: capital of Beirut earlier today.
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  Speaker 2: So Israel, of course looking for any excuse to get
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  Speaker 2: back to war making. They do not want any sort
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  Speaker 2: of a deal to resolve this war between the US
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  Speaker 2: and Israel versus Iran. However, Trump came in and told
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  Speaker 2: a number of reporters immediately that he did not want
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  Speaker 2: Netnyahu and Israel to retaliate.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go and put a four up on the screen here.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Barack Ravied, of course, one of Trump's
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  Speaker 2: favorite reporters on these matters. He spoke with Trump on
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  Speaker 2: the phone. Trump said the Iranian strikes did not hurt
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  Speaker 2: anybody hopefullull. Israel is not going to retaliate if Bbe
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  Speaker 2: strikes them back. It's just going to keep going like
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  Speaker 2: the last forty seven years or the last three thousand years.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what he's talking about there.
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  Speaker 2: Trump added, we are very close to a final deal
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  Speaker 2: with Iran. It is going to be a good deal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want it to blow up because of what
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  Speaker 2: is happening now, and stressed, I am going to call
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  Speaker 2: Bebe right now, which reporting says he did, and tell
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  Speaker 2: him not to retaliate. Each of them had their fun.
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  Speaker 2: Israel had its strike and Iran had its strike. We
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  Speaker 2: don't need another one. He also spoke with the Financial Times.
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  Speaker 2: Let's put the next element up on the screen here
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  Speaker 2: as well. Is it's really Prime Minister Benjamin Netnaho will
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  Speaker 2: have no choice but to accept whatever deal the US
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  Speaker 2: negotiates with Iran. Donald Trump said, because the US president
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  Speaker 2: quote calls the shots, he won't have any choice. Trump
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  Speaker 2: told the FT in a telephone interview. I call the shots.
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  Speaker 2: I call all the shots. He does not call the shots.
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  Speaker 2: So bron strikes Israel. The present comes out and says
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  Speaker 2: to numerous reporters, I do not want Israel to retaliate,
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  Speaker 2: and I call the shots, and I'm in charge. Lo,
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  Speaker 2: and behold what happened next? Israel went ahead and retaliated.
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  Speaker 2: We can put this next element A to B up
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  Speaker 2: on the screen. Here you can see the vo there
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  Speaker 2: on the side. The video of some of the strikes
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  Speaker 2: inside of Iran. Drop site says Israel strikes targets across Iran.
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  Speaker 2: The Israeli Air Force has struck sites in western and
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  Speaker 2: central Iran, with explosions reported across multiple cities. The IDF
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  Speaker 2: said in an initial statement it had struck quote military
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  Speaker 2: targets belonging to the Iranian terror regime in western and
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  Speaker 2: central Iran, adding details would follow. Iranian state broadcasting confirming
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  Speaker 2: multiple explosions in Tehran, Tabreeze and Ispahan.
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  Speaker 4: The scale and.
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  Speaker 2: Impact of the strikes remain unclear. Next element here A
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  Speaker 2: to D. We get confirmation here from the IDF several
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure sites. This is from the IDF at the petrochemical
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  Speaker 2: complex in masha Are in southwestern Iran. These facilities were
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  Speaker 2: used by the armed forces of the Iranian terror regime
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  Speaker 2: to produce and export raw materials for weapons production. The
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  Speaker 2: targeted infrastructure produced unique materials that serve as critical components
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  Speaker 2: for the development of ballistic missiles. So confirmation from both
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  Speaker 2: the IDF and from the Iranians that Israel did in
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  Speaker 2: fact retaliate within Iran against this petrochemical facility, and Iran
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  Speaker 2: in response sent several more missiles into Israel. We can
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  Speaker 2: put these images up on the screen here. You hear
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  Speaker 2: the sirens, and this is very significant because you see
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  Speaker 2: the missile coming in, You see the attempted interception which fails,
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  Speaker 2: and then this is a what appears to be a
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  Speaker 2: strike to the ground inside of Haipho, which also Soger belies.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Israel's claiming that they were able to intercept
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  Speaker 2: all of these, it does not look that that was
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  Speaker 2: the case. So the very latest after all of this
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  Speaker 2: unfolded this morning, is Trump had this to say on
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  Speaker 2: true social life. Both sides, Israel and Iran, are to
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  Speaker 2: do an immediate ceasefire. Final negotiations on peace in quotes
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  Speaker 2: are proceeding. Subject to ignorance or stupidity getting in its way.
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  Speaker 2: The blockade will remain in place and in full force
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  Speaker 2: and effect until a final deal is reached.
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  Speaker 4: Things should move quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump,
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  Speaker 2: of course, just in time for the markets however, soccer.
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  Speaker 2: The Iranians seem to be accepting this from Trump at
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  Speaker 2: least for now.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go and head and then put the latest A
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  Speaker 3: nine B please up here on the screen. Breaking now
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  Speaker 3: from the Iranians. A response from the Iranian government the accordingly,
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  Speaker 3: the armed forces operations are declared to be halted. However,
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  Speaker 3: it is emphasized that if aggressions and atrocities continue, including
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  Speaker 3: in southern Lebanon, much harsher and more crushing actions than
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  Speaker 3: before will be on the way. The reason why this
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  Speaker 3: is so significant note here the Iranian statement makes clear
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  Speaker 3: it is not just applicable future strikes if they strike
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  Speaker 3: the Dahia district in Beirut, it explicitly includes all of
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  Speaker 3: southern Lebanon, which is all currently occupied by the State
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  Speaker 3: of Israel and where ongoing war operations have continued now
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  Speaker 3: for over a month. This demonstrates explicitly that they have
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  Speaker 3: actually moved the red line from strikes on Beirut to
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  Speaker 3: southern Lebanon, effectively saying that the precondition for a ceasefire
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  Speaker 3: means that Israel must leave southern Lebanon because that's the
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  Speaker 3: only time that quote aggressions and atrocities will continue.
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  Speaker 6: A eight.
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  Speaker 3: Please let's also put that up here on the screen.
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  Speaker 3: This is from Jeremy. He released this late yet last night.
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  Speaker 3: Iranian official says at this point, reaching agreement with Trump
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  Speaker 3: is not feasible. The primary person responsible for the current
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  Speaker 3: situation is Donald Trump himself, the Iranian official told Jeremy Scalhie,
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  Speaker 3: referring to Israel's massive escalation in its attacks against Lebanon
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  Speaker 3: and Iran's retaliatory strikes. Should Israel carry out another attack
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  Speaker 3: in Beirut in the coming days, missiles will immediately target
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  Speaker 3: areas within the occupied territories in retaliation. For nearly twenty days,
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  Speaker 3: the draft of the potential agreement has been on Trump's desk,
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  Speaker 3: saying that Trump is driven by his fear of the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli lobby and is hope that the naval blockade plan
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  Speaker 3: will prove effective. Iran will no longer accept or tolerate
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  Speaker 3: his current position. There also is a majorly important footnote
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  Speaker 3: to this entire thing. One of the preconditions for a
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  Speaker 3: memorandum understanding was a genuine belief from the Iranian side
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  Speaker 3: that the Israel the United States could actually restrain Israel
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  Speaker 3: if it wanted to. Now we have just had explicit
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  Speaker 3: proof of either two things. One, Trump used the cover
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  Speaker 3: of going forward and saying and telling all these reporters
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  Speaker 3: immediately in the moment, I don't want them to strike.
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  Speaker 3: I call the shots. They need to stop firing. Three
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  Speaker 3: separate true social posts all throughout the night, all saying
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  Speaker 3: they need to stop quote shooting. I don't know why
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  Speaker 3: that was in quotes, but that's what he said, they
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  Speaker 3: need to stop quote shooting. What this proves definitively is
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  Speaker 3: that the US does not have the current capability under
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  Speaker 3: the Trump policy to actually restrain Israeli action. If he's
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  Speaker 3: going to explicitly say they can't strike and they do
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  Speaker 3: strike anyways, this proves two things. He's either feckless and
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  Speaker 3: useless and or he greenlit the strike otherwise. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: just to make very very clear from the Iranian side,
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  Speaker 3: which they're actually correct about. It's not like US Sentcom
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  Speaker 3: data wasn't used in all of these targeting. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like ISR and refueling tankers USU refueling tankers are all
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  Speaker 3: up in the air. And were scrambled from Bengarian airport.
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  Speaker 3: Did they refuel Israeli tankers? No confirmation currently from SITCOM.
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  Speaker 3: Second to that, as the Israelis themselves have acknowledged this morning,
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  Speaker 3: many of the intercepted Iranian missiles were shot down by
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  Speaker 3: US systems and or with US targeting data, which demonstrates
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  Speaker 3: that we are actively involved in a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: defense of the State of Israel. So even though we
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  Speaker 3: may not necessarily be explicitly bombing them, we are supporting Israel.
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  Speaker 3: We're giving them targeting data, and we backed them up
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  Speaker 3: whenever it came time because they were shot at. Remember
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  Speaker 3: that in many cases this reporting from the Washington Posts
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  Speaker 3: over a month ago. Now at this point it proved
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  Speaker 3: explicitly and many times the United States spent its precious
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  Speaker 3: stockpile at the behest of conserving Israeli ammunition.
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  Speaker 1: So this is only furthering that.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, we have a very very limited amount an over
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  Speaker 3: five year time period now in order to replace what
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  Speaker 3: was already used just in the thirty nine day conflict.
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  Speaker 3: And this comes on the heels now of renewed firing.
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  Speaker 3: But I think what this demonstrates more than anything is
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  Speaker 3: that despite what Trump keeps saying, is that we're going
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  Speaker 3: to closer and closer and closer to a deal. It
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  Speaker 3: proves the opposite, because this was a critical test from
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  Speaker 3: the Iranian side. Number one, they have to prove deterrence.
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  Speaker 3: They said explicitly, if you strike Beyrout, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: bomb you.
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  Speaker 1: They struck bea route. They went ahead and bombed them.
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  Speaker 3: Israel also, by the way, struck the Iranian Foreign ministry.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just waiting for the news, inevitable news. Some
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  Speaker 3: negotiator somewhere has been killed, don't you know, Just wait
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  Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Yeah, I'm sure we'll get some confirmation.
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  Speaker 3: But the bottom line, bottom line Trump was not able
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  Speaker 3: to restrain Israel, or he decided or he actually supported
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  Speaker 3: it again. Either way, it moves you further away from
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  Speaker 3: an agreement. Is you cannot have an agreement with a
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  Speaker 3: bilateral agreement when you have this tertiary party which is
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  Speaker 3: rampaging through Lebanon and also is continuing to break many
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  Speaker 3: of the terms of the ceasefire. Literally, the United States
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  Speaker 3: currently is engage and a potential further war with Iran,
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  Speaker 3: all because Israel wants to occupy southern Lebanon and Bombbay.
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  Speaker 1: Route at will and basically.
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  Speaker 3: Keep this country subjugated so that they can control it
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  Speaker 3: and probably even occupy it for all of eternity. That's
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  Speaker 3: what this entire thing is about. Is that worth paying
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  Speaker 3: four dollars and fifty cents a gallon whenever it comes
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  Speaker 3: to gasoline.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right that it almost doesn't matter whether Trump
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  Speaker 2: was just doing this whole Israel stop for show or
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  Speaker 2: whether he actually meant it and they were defied. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians are going to be looking at this and saying,
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  Speaker 2: you're either unable or unwilling to restrain Israel, and they have,
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  Speaker 2: especially with this latest round of attacks directly at Israel,
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  Speaker 2: has made it clear that they will enforce this red
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  Speaker 2: line on no hostilities against Lebanon, that Lebanon has to
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  Speaker 2: be included in any ceasefire and certainly in any more
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  Speaker 2: extended piece. I wanted to put up a treat to
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  Speaker 2: Parsi's analysis here. This is a eleven because with regard
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  Speaker 2: to Lebanon in particular, he made a really important point here.
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  Speaker 2: He said, the magnitude of what just happened may take
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  Speaker 2: some time to sink in. This is the first time
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  Speaker 2: Iran has struck Israel after Israel struck another country's territory
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  Speaker 2: that is not Iran.
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  Speaker 4: That means the battle lines have been moved.
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  Speaker 2: Iran's deterrence had already been restored in the sense Israel
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  Speaker 2: knew any strike and it would be responded to. But
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  Speaker 2: now Iran has proven it will also respond to Israeli
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  Speaker 2: strikes on Lebanon. This is the first time in decades
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  Speaker 2: that a regional power has the means, capacity and willingness
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  Speaker 2: to put hard power against Israeli military maneuvers or aggression
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  Speaker 2: against a third party, and one wonders whether that may
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  Speaker 2: also ultimately be extended to Gaza, to Palestine, to the
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  Speaker 2: occupied territories as well. And just think of what we've
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  Speaker 2: experienced over the past several years, where not only has
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  Speaker 2: Israel been committing genocide in Gaza, but has bombed seven
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  Speaker 2: different countries over the past several years, and no one
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  Speaker 2: really did anything about it. The Houthis and Yemen they're
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  Speaker 2: the only ones that really did anything about it, and
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're not strong enough or in a position to
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  Speaker 2: fully stop or check Israel's ambitions. The fact that Iran
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  Speaker 2: now has the capacity and the willingness to do this
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  Speaker 2: at all is a sea change, and that is exactly
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  Speaker 2: why the fact that Iran has that capability is exactly
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  Speaker 2: why Israel is absolutely committed to their destruction. The Israeli
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  Speaker 2: view of security is that they have to have absolute security,
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  Speaker 2: meaning that no one around it, whether it's Iran or
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  Speaker 2: whether it's in the future Turkey, can have even the
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  Speaker 2: ability or the possible capacity to check their ambitions for
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  Speaker 2: the greater Israel project. And that's what Trita is pointing
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  Speaker 2: to here. Doctor Parci's pointing to here is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that this really is a new dawn of an era
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle EA, least in terms of Iranian ability
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  Speaker 2: and willingness to check some of Israel's most insane, you know,
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  Speaker 2: rogue state behavior that we've experienced for however many years.
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  Speaker 2: At this point moving forward, just to just to recap
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  Speaker 2: where we are, so, we had the strikes back and
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  Speaker 2: forth between Lebanon and Israel. We have Iran responding with
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  Speaker 2: strikes inside Israel. We have Israel responding to Iran. Then
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  Speaker 2: we have Trump coming in and saying, you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: got to We're going to have this cease farre and
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  Speaker 2: Iran accepting it. At this point but Sagar, I think
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  Speaker 2: if we look at Jeremy's reporting here, no one should
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  Speaker 2: be under any illusion that Aroan like takes Trump's word
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  Speaker 2: for anything. They have consistently had their red lines. They've
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  Speaker 2: had a consistent position on what a deal would look like.
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  Speaker 2: It has been on Trump's desk for weeks. But Trump
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  Speaker 2: is unable, unwilling to be able to actually conclude this
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  Speaker 2: thing because of the level of humiliation it would require
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  Speaker 2: him to accept. The whole world would see very clearly
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  Speaker 2: what a massive strategic loss this was for the United States.
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  Speaker 2: And also he has been unable or unwilling to restrain Israel,
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  Speaker 2: which it's very clear at this point Iran is not
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  Speaker 2: going to allow.
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  Speaker 3: That to disc ex And I think this is so important.
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  Speaker 3: You coming back to the previous post that we had
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  Speaker 3: from Trump, where he keeps saying things like, don't worry,
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  Speaker 3: everything is on track for a ceasepire.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot be Trump's words.
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  Speaker 3: Trump has proven time and time again that words actually
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  Speaker 3: don't matter. So the Iranians look in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 3: this was a test not only of their ability to
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  Speaker 3: enforce their own red lines, it was a test of Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Bringing it back to my earlier point, I also want
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  Speaker 3: to note this one. The blockade will remain in place
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  Speaker 3: and in full force and effect until a final deal
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  Speaker 3: is reached.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, that.
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  Speaker 3: Contradicts every single thing we know about the Memorandum of Understanding,
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  Speaker 3: which was supposed to see a lifting of the blockade
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: from the Iranians on the straight of Horn Moves and
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: the blockade of the United States. He says here the
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: blockade will remain in place, in full force and effect
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: until a final deal is Considering what happened yesterday, the
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: level of Zionist freak out that we saw after Trump
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: had said I'm going to tell Bebe not to strike
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: was unbelievable. First of all, just proving that, you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: their Panican is plenty whenever they want to be, Whenever
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Trump doesn't, you know, you know, lap at the feet
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: of Bebe, they freak out and are criticizing the White House.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: They're not exactly real friends, they're fairweather friends on behalf
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: of Israel, people like Mark Levin and all of these
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: other folks. But I think it also showed their power
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: because immediately Bebe, you know, for his own reasons, because
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: inside of Israel you had neftally Bennett.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think we have that, don't we? A twelve? Can
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we put that up there on the screen. This is
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the moderate in Israel. Remember that one who says there's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: a moment of truth.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Is Israel a sovereign state capable of defending itself. A
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: weak or symbolic response will signal to our enemies the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: blood of our citizens has been spilled with impunity. Therefore,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Israel must act with strength and effectiveness in this matter.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: We all of Israel stand together calling for a retaliatory strike.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: You also that was from Ftaali Bennett. You also had
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Ben Gavier say Tehran will burn to the ground tonight.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: So from both sides of the Israeli spectrum, Bbie was
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: in a place that he has created a bloodthirst really
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: within the Israeli government, and for a lot of his
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: own domestic political reasons, he couldn't not respond. But he
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: also it took a calculated risk. He knew if he
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: did this, we're not actually going to back away from them.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And that's what backstops this entire thing is that cost
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: benefit analysis is predicated on cost. Israel has no cost,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and so we should create a scenario where they have cost.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: All Trump has to do is say I'm not defending
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: you anymore. And let's see what the skies of Israel
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: look like when US Dad and Patriot missiles are no
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: longer shooting down the vast majority. Let's see how long
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they can actually last on their own.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Good luck to the.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Israeli Air Force and to the Israeli people if they
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: have to live under what a real bombardon actually would look.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You'll recall drop sized reporting that they were down to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: double digit interceptors double digit, and yeah, every single significant
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: attack that they have weathered, they have weathered it with
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: our assistance.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: We have been vital.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: It's the one country that we have really consistently defended,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: whereas our Gulf Arab allies we have relatively.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Hung out to dry.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I think the other thing we see really clearly, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: this is why the US is sort of like stuck
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: in this terrible limbo where you know, gas prices just
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: continue to be high, and you know, every week we
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: get market moving tweets abou oh a deal is really close,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and Barock revied reports and then the whole thing falls
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: apart on the weekend. Trump is terrified to go back
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to full hostility. I think You see that really clearly
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: in this exchange. You know, whether or not it was
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: an act with Israel and he was going to allow
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: them to strike or not, he clearly put out this
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: message because he wanted to establish some separation from Israel
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: at least create the impression that all they're just acting
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: on their own, it's not us, like, let's not blow
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: up these whole negotiations. He does not want to go
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: back to full hostilities. He's very fearful of that because
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Iran has successfully demonstrated to him that anything beyond what
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: we've already done. You know, we could go in with
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: more air strikes, although they've become more sophisticated about being
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: able to take down even our air assets. But yes,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: we could go back in with more air strikes. They're
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: going to blow up our bases again if we went
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: in with some sort of ground invasion, like which would
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: be the next step that you would take. We all
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: saw how much of a disaster that could be with
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that alleged pilot rescue situation that occurred, where so much
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of our equipment had to be destroyed on the ground,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and the question surrounding you know, whether we're really getting
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the full story on that all remained, but it was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: immediately after that messy situation whatever it was, that Trump
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: ends up pulling back. He does all of these insane threats,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: but ultimately it results in him going to the negotiating
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: table and trying to come up with some sort of deal.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, the other.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: PC here soccer is you know, I don't know. We
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: continue to have this negotiating team that it's hard to
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: take seriously, right, it's actually gotten worse because now it's Kushner,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: it's Witkoff, and it's this guy from the Foundation to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the Defensive Democracies, which is like a you know, totally
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: hawkish pro Israel outfit that has done some of the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: worst misinformation about Oh, if we just blockade their blockade,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Iran is going to collapse in a mere amount of days,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you know, Oh, we'll take them out in their regime
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: will crumble immediately. That's who the negotiating team is. There
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: are no direct negotiations. So it continues to be very
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: hard to see how you can believe these reports we get.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Every single week. Oh, they're so close to a deal.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Oh they have a deal, they.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Have a memo of understanding any day now, we're going
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to get an announcement. This whole thing is going to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: be over how how and this latest round between Iran
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and Israel only puts that even further because one of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the things Iran has to believe if they're going to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: move forward, is that you're able and willing to restrain Israel.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: And there is zero sign.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Sorry breaking news.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Just five minutes ago, remember recall I specifically said Iran
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: said southern Lebanon. Israel is now striking the southern Lebanese
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: village of Kirbat Dal Wire. I apologize to all Lebanese
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: if I said that incorrectly. And there are now rocket
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: sirens sounding all over northern Israel a mid incoming Hezbola
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: rocket fire. So just to show everybody that, despite the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: fact Iran explicitly said things are off as long as
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: you don't strike Southern Lebanon, they immediately start lighting up
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Southern Lebanon, which immediately Broughs has bull afire, which we
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: know will bring more Israeli strikes, which means, now Iran,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the ball is in their court, are they going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: actually fires? So this is the sheer unsustainability of it all. Hey, Israel,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: please just don't invade southern Lebanon. Why can't why can
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: we not say it, Please retreat to your own internationally
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: recognized borders. Yeah, I mean we're going through an entire
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: price war with Russia right now over invading a sovereign
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: nation over some you know, Oh, Russia claimed an immediate
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: threat in Ukraine.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: To do that doesn't mean that we think it's real.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: It was bullshit. So same with here.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Nobody says one word about violations of norms. You have
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: this country which bombed multiple different ones, basically annexed parts
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: of Syria, now annexing Lebanon, rampaging through the West Bank.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Didn't they just do something in Gaza yesterday? They just
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: shut down the humanitarian.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is madness, and we're.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Just not the Lebanon one is where there's not it's
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: not even a dispute like it's Lebanon.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It's a country.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: They can't there's no you know, nineteen forty eight, ninety six, ton, No,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: we just invaded the entire country. We're occupying all and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: we sit here and we just take it. And it
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: just shows you the sheer madness of the entire thing.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Why can Trump not say every single Israeli smoot is
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: getting off out of Lebanon right now. The United States
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and Israel, or the United States and Lebanon will come
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to some agreement whatever, and then in the future you
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: will not be struck.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's not difficult.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Why Yeah, Well, and previously Ron's position had been tit
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: for tat. You strike us, we are going to respond
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: in kind, effectively like a horizontal escalation. So we're not
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: going to go above and beyond. We're going to respond
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in a way that is consistent with what you did
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to us. Their new model, and that's I think in
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: evidence with the retaliation on Israel here is that if
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you hit us, we are going to hit back harder.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So what does Israel want here? Obviously they want to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: blow up the peace negotiations. They also want they would
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: love to see some look American service members dead, just
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because what would that require
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: then we would be fully back in it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: They want our basis to be struck.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: They want us to have some sort of justification that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: means we have to get back fully into this war.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: That is what they're pushing for, That's what they're looking for.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And so you know, with this latest round. We are
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: dangerously close to going back to.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Full s war.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And look, there's a reason we've been having Professor Robert
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Pape on the show every week because.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: The escalation trap.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: When you have that frame where you can see how
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: we end up in this position, and why even though
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Trump is desperately afraid of going back into full scale war,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: why that does not mean that that is off the table.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It is not off the table. And you can see
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: very easily the logic of this. I wanted to put
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: one more thing here up on the screen.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: This is a too c. I thought this was significant
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: We've talked over the course of this war repeatedly about Okay,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: what are the hu this going to do? Are they
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: going to get more directly involved? And so in the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: midst of this exchange of fire, of these attacks between
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Iran and Israel, the Thi's jumped into the fray. Here
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the Yemen struck in the television area declared a total
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: ban on Israeli shipping in the Red Sea. As well,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the Many Armed Forces launch a missile barrage targeting what
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: it described as sensitive Israeli targets in the Yafa area
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: of Tel Aviv, claiming the strikes achieve their objectives with precision,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: according to a statement from the Sona based Saba News agency.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: They also declared a complete and total ban on Israeli
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: maritime navigation in the Red Sea, stating that all Israeli
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: movements would be considered legitimate military targets and of course
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: this should be assumed to have been done in conjunction
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and in coordination with the Iranian So again it just
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: shows you that they are willing to up the ante here.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And this was all again in response not to attacks
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: on Iranian soil, but to attacks in Lebanon. And now
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: we see this morning, as Soccer was just saying, those
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: attacks have restarted in southern Lebanon, jeopardizing any sort of
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: detent that Trump was announcing this morning, it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Was just it's just going to keep on going this way.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: By the way, the price, I don't know what's going
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: on with the oil markets. They're just kind of delusional.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I guess. Still Brent is still only at ninety four
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: dollars a barrel, so I mean, look, I'll take it
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: means everybody gets to pay less in terms of gasoline.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, maybe the Doomers and all these
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: warnings were incorrect, or maybe that they were just way
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: too early. They are just hell bent on any time
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Trump is like, we're going to have a deal. They
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: really do seem to believe it. I think the stock
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: market is even up this morning, literally only because what's it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: It's up by almost a full percent.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Which is wow, especially after because the Asian markets, well
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: we'll we're to talk more about this later, but they
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: got crushed yesterday again on chip worries and also you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: overall tech worries. So you would think that would have
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: some impact on our markets, but apparently not.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Taking in the interim.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Ryan's theory is that it's not necessarily that the traders
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: are stupid. It's that they assume that the other traders
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: are stupid and that they are predicting that, like you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: everybody will take Trump's word for it. Oh, I'm sure
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the ceasefire and the memo of the understanding is you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: coming any moment now, and so they trade based on that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know what was it's I'm forgetting eco. It
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: was like rational market hypothesis or something. Yeah, I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: we can put that well to bad one from econ
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: one on one. I hope all the produce, all the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: teachers are going to update. Okay, let's get to the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Trump interview. Turn down to Donald Trump sat for an
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: extraordinary interview. Explosive, as Crystal said, in many ways, including
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the weather, which is genuinely insane when you listen to this.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: For some reason, there was a massive rainstorm that was
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: conducted or that was happening around the place that the
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: interview was being conducted, presumably outside. But the one that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: stuck out more than anything was Trump saying I never
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: guaranteed no new wars.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: What changed because you insisted no new wars.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I didn't guarantee new war.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Why would I have built the strongest military in the world.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: I built our military. I inherited a terrible military. We
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: had no equipment, we had nothing. I built a tremendous military.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: a relatively small portion compared to what I built. You said,
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: why would I build the military?
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: I didn't want to use this, but I'm doing you
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: and everybody else a big favor. In the midst of
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: the greatest stock market and in the midst of the
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: most successful country because, as you know, in the last time,
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: we were dead country. Christian, I know you you're a
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: big liberal, big progressive.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just a journal So he says, I never guaranteed
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: no new more. Why would I build the strongest military
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: in the world. Well, just a little trip down memory lane.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Here's Trump saying there will be no new war.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: Look at him.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: He's going to start a war. I said, no, no,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: I'm going to stop wars. I'm going to stop him,
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: stop the chaos in the Middle East and prevent World
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: War three, which is going to happen.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: World War three.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: We're closer to World War three than we have ever been.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Wait out need the wars. Foreign lands, countries you've never
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: heard of, countries that don't even want us there. This
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: election is a choice between strength and weakness, competence and incompetence,
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: peace and prosperity.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Or war or no war.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: They like a war. They love wars, you know, they
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: love killing people. It's so wonderful. We will restore peace
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: through strength that we will prevent world War three.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: We will prevent World War three. We're going to stop wars.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Those all this chaos in the Middle East. In fact,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: do you remember when Jad endorsed Trump in twenty twenty three,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: He literally wrote a Wall Street Journal op ed saying
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the best thing about Trump was no new wars.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: How all they were all on that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: That was part of the reason that a lot of
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: people supported him. It's at least the more libertarian faction
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: of a lot of these people, the anti woke libertarians.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: And now he comes out humiliates them and said, what
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: did he say? He says, I never guaranteed any new war.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And this is I think demonstrates a couple of things.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Number one, how testing he gets on the subject, but two,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: how committed he is now currently to this vision of
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the war, not just with Iran, but you have to
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: put it together with Venezuela. And also what's happening right
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: now in Cuba.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Cuba is on the verge of collapse.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I know we've covered it quite a bit, but I
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: mean it's seriously, things are getting very bad over there.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Visa MasterCard just pulled out, very imminent, you know, potential
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: US action, all kinds of crazy Bay of pigshit being
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: planned by Marc or Rubio and the rest of the team.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: So this definitively.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It makes it clear he's like, no, I never said that,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: even though we literally have it on camera a million times.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is him being like a sleazy
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: car salesman, like, well, I never technically said I will
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: guarantee that there.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Will never be no new wars.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You know, things change, and why would I have this
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: incredible military if I wasn't start any new wars, Like,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: obviously I'm going to use it. And I mean, in
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a way, there's there is a kind of truth to that,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: because if you did not listen to what he said,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: but looked at his previous actions and also looked at,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you know, some of the people who had long been
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in sort look in the fact that he had John
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Bolton in the first administration, you would say, yeah, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: can't really take his word for these assurances. And the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: other thing that he does is he would say no,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I won't go to war with Iran, you know, on
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: one day, and then the next.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Day we would posture in a very.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Hawkish manner towards Iran. So it really was sort of
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like hear what you wanted to hear, choose your own
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: adventure type of situation, and here we are we have.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I guess I don't know that we chose this adventure,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: but this is the adventure that we ultimately got. He
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: was very agitated throughout this entire interview. And you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Kristen Welker has done Trump interviews before, and it's not
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that he likes her, but he has tolerated her.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: They seem to have, like.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say, a rapport, but she has
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: been able to you know, push him and have some
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: exchanges back and forth in a way that he has
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: at least been able to sort of accept in talk.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I Recovered the White House with Christian. He's always kind
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: of had a thing for her, Like I don't.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Mean, you know, she's a very likable person.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Ye know, she's very sweet.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you personal level, she's super nice. But I remember
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: he'd always would always gravitate her. My theory is because
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: she's on Meet the Press and she's on NBC News, and.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: That's what he' likes.
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: Like boomer, He's a boomer like for him, was a
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: oh Tim Ruster, And you know Tim Ruster died when
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: I was like twelve, but you know, in Trump's brain,
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: that's you know, like that was Yesterdayade yeah, that was
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: yesterday exactly.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So for him, he loves like Fox News Sunday and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: George Stefanopolis and Meet.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: The Press, and.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why is he obsessed with the New York Times anyway?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: That's that's just said mistakes.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Well, And so I actually think because several times during
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: this interview he commented on the storm, and his hearing
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: is going, you know, he struggles to understand questions that
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: are asked, you know, of him in normal circumstances. So
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I think his like old man agitation was coming out here.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: They get into this exchange about you know, whether the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: election was stolen previously, about whether the election is being
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: stolen from Spencer Pratt currently in California, and he gets
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: so frustrated and like just completely spases out and rage
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: quits this entire interview. Let's go ahead and watch a
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: little bit of this exchange so you can see what happened.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: What they did to the lives of people. They destroyed people,
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: They sent people to jail who did nothing.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: Wor just be very clear, there's no evidence of what
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: you're saying.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: But there let's talk abou tremendous evidence is nothing, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: the election was rigged. It was a dirty election. This
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: is happening again right now in Calaforna. You know that
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: I won an election in a landslide and I got
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: ninety four percent.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Bad press.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: You know why I got that presented.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: Because you have no credibility, but you've never presented evidence
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: that it was ricked. Let's keep talking about I want
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: to talk about Tom.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Let's talk Your elections in this.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: Country were like a third world country. Your elections are crooked,
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: and your crooked, and least the press is crooked, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: so is ABC and CBS and CNN, your one sided
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: crooked networks. Right, let's call it quits because I've had enough.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Thank you, darling, have a good.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Time for president.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Let's please.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: I traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: I've shot that I know way on and off in
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: the ring, and I've given you enough time. You want
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: to straighten out your press, because you know what country
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: can never be great? Travel with justness. We traveled all the.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Way to Wisconsin for the city.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Rage.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Quick there you go.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, look in fairness, that storm was out of control,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: like either I'm genuine, I could not have done anything
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: It was. It was pretty wide.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's not like I think they were in like like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a barn look like a metal roof is what it
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: sounds like anyway. But yeah, I mean the other thing
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: is as you age, not that Trump has ever had
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: real impulse control, but as you age, you lose your
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: impulse control. So he just like she kept trying to
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: change the subject because she could tell how agitated he
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: was getting. She's like, oh, let's talk about Todd blanche
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. But he just wants to go in
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and in and in and the other thing of this
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: California thing has driving me freaking crazy, Like people acting
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: so shocked that a Trump backed Republican in LA is
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: not going to win, like this is any kind of shocker.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And people can go back and watch soccer and Ryan
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: interviewing David Dayan before the election even happened, and he
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: laid out the first ballots that are going to be
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: counter going to be very strongly Steve Hilton and Spencer Pratt,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and then as more ballots come in, they're going to
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: be more democratic and the numbers are going to shift.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: This was all predicted in advance. It was no shock.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It was no surprise for people that actually knew what
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: was going on. But in any case, yeah, I take
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it as a sign of you know, I think the
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: rain agitated him, but also his old man fragility where
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: he just cannot even you know, keep it together with
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: someone that he you know, afterwards, he's still like trying
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to be a little bit nice to her on his
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: way out. So this isn't someone that he has like
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: a deep patrood for. And the other thing that was
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: funny to me is that CBS caught a strain in there.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Given what we know about how they've gone over and
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: above and beyond to try to keep him happy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: What I think has really happened here is he cannot
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: face criticism whatsoever. And this is a very different Donald trap.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you I interviewed him many many times. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: can read the transcripts of any of those if you
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: want to. We would, you know, we did exactly what
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Christen did. When he gets mad, You kind of worm
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: your way around. You don't want to get kicked out,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: and so you'll push, you know, here, a little bit there,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: push something like this. But from when I understand the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Israel Iran's issue, the Iran thing has become such an
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: obvious disaster that he is very fragile on the subject.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: He cannot hear one word of credit and this translates
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to everything.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: This is why he's so edgy.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: This also explains why in the middle of bombings he's
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: sitting there picking up his cell phone from all of
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: these different reporters, being like, Oh, I'm gonna tell them
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: not to do this. I'm like he's sitting there. Basically,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: he's like.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: All of us.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: He's like monitoring the situation on the news, except he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: the most powerful person in the world. He's probably getting
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: all of these different military briefings and all these other
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: people coming in, and he's trying to shape the narrative
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: from his phone and with words. But that's not something
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: he's ever been able to do before. It is very
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: LBJ esque, Like in terms of sitting incostanted in the
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: White House, you have all this criticism outside everywhere you go.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Every time you turn on the news, you just see
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: this nightmare. You know, they have this thing hanging over
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: your head.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And so what do you do.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: You surround yourself with yes men and people who tell
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: you that you're doing such a phenomenal job, and so
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: this is what happens combination with aging. It's created this
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: exact situation.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: It's more of.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: A bubble really than ever before, because I can tell you,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, he would do some of that in the
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: first turn, and there was also a lot more novelty
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to it. To attacking the press, CNN fake news.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: A yeah, it's been ten years. Come on, we've heard
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it all before, CNN.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It's fake news going after you know, the lying press
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of an old act literally.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Point well, also, he's you know, the bloom is off
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the rows in terms of feeling like, oh, he's fighting
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: them because he's fighting for us. No, he's venal, he's corrupt,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: he's in it for himself, for his old man, you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: delusions of what his legacy is going to be, for
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: his own personal enrichment.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Everyone, and not everyone.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Most of the country, overwhelming majority of the country sees
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that very clearly.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, now when he throws a temper tantrum, it
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: just looks like a temper tantrum. It doesn't look like, oh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you're standing up to the big bad Kristen Welker and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: NBC News and the other thing is, you know, to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: that point, this over some January sixth elections stealing stuff.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's gotten asked these questions many times before,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and he says his nonsense about how it's rigged. All
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: she tried to say is, look, there's no evidence of that,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and then she tried to pivot the subject and he
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: just completely lost it over that, which I think does
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: show you how vulnerable he's feeling right now, how much
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: he recognizes that his political position is deteriorated, and how
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: sensitive he is to literally everything. There was another moment
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: here that we wanted to show for you, and I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: think this actually does get to the core of some
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: of the reason why he is so on edge right
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: now is because even key Trump supporting constituencies at this
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: point are struggling, really, you know, heavily because of the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: economic decisions that he's made. We're going to talk a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: little bit more about this, but his polling on economics,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: on inflation in particular, is just catastrophe. You even have
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans now at this point saying he
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: hasn't done a good job on this. So Christin asked
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: him specifically about farmers and the way that they are
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: struggling because of fertilizer costs going up due to the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: closure of the Strait of Hormuz thanks to his disastrous war.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and tell a listen to the way
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: he spends a complete and total delusion around this.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: Gas is up, diesel is up.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: It's all coming down as soon as the warspe.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: Seventy percent of farmers say they can't afford fertilizer.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: What's yours?
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: They're doing very well.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Let me ask you, what is your message to farmers?
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Many who support you, but who's saying struggling?
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: Who say that because there is nobody been better to farmers?
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: You know, I gave farmers last term twenty eight billion
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: dollars because China took advantage and other people and you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: paid for it China less Jo. You know, I had
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: a great first term. I had the greatest economy ever,
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: and you know what, this one's blowing it away.
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: What's your message to farmers though, mister president, who say
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: they are struggling, they're struggling to make very.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: You really am? I allowed to talk and keep asking
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: questions and you don't listen to the answers. I love
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: the farmers, and the farmers loved me, and the farmers
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: trustful in the first time, I had something very similar
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: to China and others were in Canada, which he was brutal.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: They were taking advantage of our farmers. They don't take
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: advantage of it anymore. I gave them twenty eight billion
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: dollars split up. They never had a payday like that.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: And the farmers loved me, and they came back and
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: they voted for me in record numbers. You know that
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: nobody's ever even come close now. Because of the fact
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: that we had a choice, I had a choice to make.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: I could keep it going. The farmers were doing great.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: Fertilizer was very cheap. Everything was cheap. Gasoline was very low,
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: everything was very low. I could have kept it that way,
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: but I said, I have to take a little bit
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: of return of the farmer's going to understand it better
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: than anybody. We're gonna have higher gasoling, We're gonna have
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: little higher fertilizer, et cetera, et cetera. But I'm going
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: to get rid of a nuclear weapon in the hands
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: of very dangerous people. Excuse me, wait, it should have
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: been done for forty seven years. No president had the
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: guts to do it. I did it, and I've done it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: It's almost complete. As soon as that's complete, gasoline prices
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: are going to drop.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Like a rock.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: So you've got actually two contradictory messages there. First the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: says farmers are doing great, and then he asked you acknowledge, well,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, things are up a bit, but it's
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: for a great cause, and it's only kind to be
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for a short term period of time. So even he
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: had to acknowledge, like, yeah, there is some consequence.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Fertilizer is near the all time high. It's already edging
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: close to the twenty twenty two level. By the way,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: in the rest of the world, it is continuing to
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: destroy a lot of the local farmers. I was just
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: reading a story in Brazil. I have some of the
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: data here in front of me. Brazil's has now soared
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: about fifty percent, which made it an agricultural powerhouse, but
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the country's edge is now being tested because of fertilizer prices.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So even in a lot of these Third world countries
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: where they had had an edge in terms of like
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: increasing their amount of arable land, what they also had
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: is the new fertilizer increase is increasing the cost of
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: any even cheaper goods that you would try to get
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: into the UA. I'm not saying I support this, I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: just saying from an economic perspective, same with coffee. If
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: everybody has noticed, coffee prices are just so unbelievably high
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: compared to where they were.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Even a year ago.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Beef prices also remain very very high throughout the summer,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and with this whole screwworm thing, they may continue. But
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: this is the new Trump posture is basically just I mean,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: has always been this way, attack, attack, attack, and it
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: has worked for him to great advantage when it comes
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to domestic politics. But you cannot bullshit your way out
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: of the Gordian knot of the war that you created.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people can just take notice of
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: that every single time they go to buy a gallon
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: of gasoline. It's just that's the one It's like, the
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: one thing you shouldn't have done. If he took one
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: lesson away from the Biden presidency, don't fuck with gas
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: prices and with inflation. And this time he actually chose it. Okay,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: let's see how that works in the midterm.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Elections.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Let's get to spying. Turning now to this discussion of
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Israeli spying in the US. I'm gonna give credit to
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: NBC News, they broke this story first. Let's put s
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: one up here on the screen. The Pentagon has raised
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the threat of his really spying on us to the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: highest level. Let me explain some of what they have,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and then I will give you some of.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: What I have.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: They say the Pentagon is in recently concerned about Israel
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: ramping up its spying on the US, recently raising the
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: counterintelligence threat level from America's top ally in the Middle
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: East to the highest level Pentagon's DIA. So this specifically
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: is like the internal intelligence agency for the Pentagon. The
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Defense Intelligence Agency in recent weeks has issued a new
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: counterintelligence threat assessment amid rising tensions between Israel and the
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: US over the way forward in the war with Iran.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: They said, the DA posts an internal message viewed by
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: a current official that raised the level for Israel to
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: quote critical. The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: that Israel's making fun of making a particular effort to
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: surveil top US officials. I'm going to give you some
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: of the names of those officials. A little bit later on,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: the DIA assessment includes a seven page document and features
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: a chart. The document says, the assessment of Israel is
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: its ability to conduct human espionage and technical collection is
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: at a critical level. It also identifies a series of
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: specific incidents that heightened US concerns. So the spoke person
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: for the Israeli embassy said this quote completely false, that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Israel spies in the US. That Israel spies in the US.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Israel does not gather intelligence on American entities, let alone
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: US government officials. Israeli intelligence collection efforts are aimed at
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: its enemies, not as allies. Any claims to the contrary
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: are either misinformed or politically motivated.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: He way, So ask mister Pollard about that one.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, the Pentagon has declined to comment, and a White
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: House official set in the statement the story is entirely
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: false and source to someone who doesn't have any knowledge
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the od and I the Office of the Director of
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: National Intelligence was overseas did not respond to a request
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: for comment.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: So let's focus in on a few things.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Number one is this statement from the White House that
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: says this is completely false.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Comip with C. Two up there on the screen.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: The entire story is false and source to someone who
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: doesn't empty knowledge of what's going on. I want to
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: point to everybody to a very interesting line. The Office
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: of the Director of National Intelligence did not respond to
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: a request for comment, and I also want to point
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to some very specific examples, including a seven page document
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: that features a chart. That document, I can confirm to
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: all of you exists. Let me tell you about some
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: of the things that are in there. I got to
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: be a little careful here in terms of protecting some
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: of the many people who I spoke to about this story. Basically,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: what they have seen in terms of their raising too
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: critical is they have raised it to a similar level
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: that they treat general US adversaries. This is based on
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: a few specific incidents. Some of these incidents, again I
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: cannot go into deep detail, include the explicit surveillance of
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: top officials inside of the Pentagon who they deem to
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: be a threat to their agenda inside.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Of the Pentagon.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: The New York Times, by the way, I can confirm
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: some of this as well. Let's put C three up
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: here on the screen, so it's not just me who
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: is telling you all of this. I'm going to read
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: from you a very specific line. The report includes that
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Israel has stepped up its efforts to evesdrop on senior
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: American officials, including Steve Whitcoff, President Trump's top negotiator, Elber J. Colby,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the Pentagon's top official, and one of his main deputies,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Michael Demino now Colby Domino and wit Cooff, I guess
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: could technically be seen as some sort of the strainth
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: part of the Pentagon. Colby in particular, we've had him
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: here on the show. You can go back and watch
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: some of those past interviews Wikoff. Obviously, look, I don't
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: really know what Wickcoff believes, but Israel seems to believe
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: he's a problem because he was one of the people
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: who initially started that, who initially pressed them for the
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: cease fire. They've never forgiven him for it and even
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: for his involvement, despite him still being very very pro Israel.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I also want to point to a very specific line
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: that they use, which I can also tell you, eavesdrop,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: what do you think that means?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: It means trying to bug people's phones.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Here are some of the other things that I have
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: learned is that the Israeli government has been increasingly while
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: US military officials are in Israel that they have found
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: themselves basically subject to the same quote threat analysis that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: they would whenever they're traveling abroad. Now it is standard
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: operating procedure for US officials when they leave the country
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: to actually turn in their government device and to get
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: a traveling phone. And it's explicitly for this reason because
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: of potential being able to break into their various devices.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: And there was at least some belief that attempts that
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: that had been made, And now the times in the
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: NBC News have gone further and they're basically saying they
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: explicitly tried to eavesdrop on these three officials that we
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: know about, also military officials inside of Israel Sentcom and others.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: But the main target of Israeli intelligence right now, from
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: based on everything I've been able to see, is to
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: get as much visibility into the Pentagon's internal decision making
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: as possible, including into the White House, to make sure
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: that they can try and influence things from their side. Now,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: nothing I'm saying is explosive in such a way that,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: like if you watch the show, you probably believe it,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: But I think what's explosive is the fact that the
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: DIA concluded this in a memo. And again, I think
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: the number one thing I can offer you is the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: memo exists, that they definitely have been They have specific
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: instances in some of these cases where they have tried
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: to eavesdrop on these US officials. APAC, the US and
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: others are a pack and the White House are all
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: denying this, but I can tell you for one hundred
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: percent this memo exists. It includes multiple specific instances of
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Israeli officials who are either caught or where the DiiA
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: believes that they were trying.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: To surveil US officials.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I also should note that this memo does not just
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: include evidence from after the outbreak of the Iran War.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: This Critical Threat memo was issued based on years now
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: of counterintelligence activity that they have been able to conclude,
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: and it was done specifically to try and protect the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: integrity of the US war decision making process. There are
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: still people in the Pentagon who care about that. I
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: can report for all of you this is based on
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: some of my conversations with multiple different sources who.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Are around this.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: But the most noteworthy and depressing part to me is
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the White House saying that this story is completely false.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: The people in charge of actually making sure that we're
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: not getting spied on are the ones who are denying
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: that the story doesn't exist.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: It exists. I can tell you explicitly it exists.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: The memo is real, the actual things in various contacts
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: that are made inside the memo. Again, I wish I
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: could go into even some more, just because it's really crazy,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: but that would give away a a little bit too much.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It includes multiple instances where military officers and others found
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: themselves or believed themselves to be under either electronics surveillance,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: human surveillance, or other type of surveillance, either in Israel
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: and in some cases electronically here in the United States.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Well, they say in the New York Times report that
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: some officials discovered that the Israelis had either attempted or
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: succeeded in installing software on their phone could be Pegasus,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I want me to go in the details on that one.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Sure, so this appears to have been an effort where
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes whenever you go to a secure area,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: if you've ever been into a skiff, you often have
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: to turn in your phone for a briefing. Well, they
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: would come back and then they would discover, oh, actually
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: there might be something that's been installed on my phone.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Now, It's actually a little bit unclear as to where
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: the software was installed. Either could have been in Israel potentially,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: there have been some speculation that occurred in the US.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Best I've been able to tell, it occurred while they
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: were on travel, while they were in Israel. And they're
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: actually particularly they're particularly worried about their own personal devices.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Remember that Steve Wikoff and other used have used their
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: personal advices and signal devices whenever.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: They were conducting diplomacy. It's just made them very vulnerable.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: And also fly around on private jets, not you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: official secure government aircraft, and so that makes them more vulnerable.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And what the New York Times points to is that, look,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Israel has been spying on the US, and we spy
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: on them too, by the way, but they aggressively spy
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: on the US.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: And this has been always known.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Right, that's not new, But they say that the efforts
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: have been ramped up significantly actually during the Biden administration
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: after October seventh, as they were trying to get a
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: window into Okay, what is the decision making that's going
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: on inside? Are they going to try to constrain us
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: in any way? The answer turned out to be no.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: But in any case, that's when they really escalated these efforts.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: And one person that the New York Times quoted here
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: said that what they're doing now is quote unquote unhinged.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, again, these are not people who are Pollyanna,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: who you know, would expect that Israel would not spy
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: on us whatsoever, which to me seems like a reasonable
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: expectation of an But in any case, that is not
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the expectation that our government apparently has. But even given
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: that baseline of expectation that they will spy on us,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: they consider the actions to have been taken here to
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: be unhinged. I want to pair this, too with another story,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: which is the efforts to effectively link the US and
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: the Israeli militaries and make them so intertwined that this
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: is something we talked about last week with Brandon Wikert,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to make them so intertwined as to make it almost
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: impossible to extricate ourselves from this relationship. This is the
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: country that we're talking about, a country that spies on
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: us as aggressively, if not more aggressively, according to these reports,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: as our adversaries, as our biggest adversaries in the world.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: There is no other ally that is conducting this level
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: of operations against us.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: It is not a thing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: It is only Israel, and so it really does call
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: into I mean, look to me, the relationship of Israel
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: as an allies already called into question. This further calls
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: into question the idea that this country should be an ally,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that we should have this type of relationship with them,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: when they are committing, you know, acts against this that
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: are adversarial all the time.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I said earlier in.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: The show, they would be delighted if you, as service
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: members got killed right now in the Middle East so
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that we would get drawn back in. That's our ally,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: That's who we send billions of dollars a year or
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: two without a second thought. That's who we're trying to
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: directly intertwine our military and intelligence services with.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: This is insanity, and I can tell you know, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the Times have confirmed some of these instances. The ones
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: that really shocked these officials the most and why they
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: elevated it to a critical threat, was when the Shin
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: bet the Israeli Domestic Intelligence Service, the FBI tried to
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: plant a bug in a Secret Service vehicle here in
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: the United States.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: They literally tried to do that.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: The Times has it in there too, that in the memo,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: So that demonstrates the level of concern that that Remember,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: these are general bureaucrats. They're looking at China, Russia, all
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: of these others and they're like, hey, you have a
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: country which literally tried to bugs secret Service vehicle. We
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: should probably do something about that or alert someone over
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: at the White House. They tried to put this into
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: a memo and issued it to the Pentagon, and then
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: the White House comes out and says it's entirely false.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: So that's the concerning part to me is not just
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: what they got away with, but if this were China,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: if this were Russia, if this were literally any other country,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: that would freak out. There would be calls from Congress
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: to come in and to investigate. And instead you have
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: what Ted Cruz who defended basically is really spying on
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: the US in his interview with Tucker Carlson. And then
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: let's also remember there's basically been a year's long sighop
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: by a lot of these pro Israel people in the
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: US who are saying that Israel doesn't even spy.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: On us in the first place.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Let's throw back to Ben Shapiro making this case several
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: This has become the hot speculation on the internet.
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: Is without evidence, you say that Mazad was running Jeffrey Epstein.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: When I say without evidence, I mean without evidence.
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: Now Taly Bennett, the former Israeli Prime minister said quote
• 54:58
  Speaker 9: as a former is minister with the Massad having reported
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: directly to me, I say to you with one hundred
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: percent certainty, the accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: Israel or the Masade running a blackmail ring is categorically
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: and totally false. This accusation is a lie being peddled
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: by prominent online personalities such as Tucker Carlson, pretending they
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: know things they don't. And in fact I followed up
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: with the former prime minister enough Tully Bennett, and what
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: he told me is the Massad has not been active
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: in the United States since the or against the United
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: States since the Jonathan Pollard scandal of nineteen eighty seven,
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: when a US Army contractor he is actually working for
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: the Navy, revealed.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Classified information to the Israeli government.
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: He was prosecuted by the United States government and ended
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: up in prison for almost thirty years.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: And so Israel since then has not spied on the
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: United States.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: So Ben called up the Israeli Prime minister former's really
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Partnerier said hey, you don't spy on us, right He said, oh, yeah, no,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: we don't. And Ben said, yeah, okay, all right, let
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: me go ahead and report that to my audience.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: This is never lied.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Why would they lie.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one. I love this one
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: in particular. This is, you know, very pro Zionist poster.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I believe he's done some stuff over there the Middle
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Eastern analysts for the Free Press. He says, the deeper
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: story of the NYT article about and Israeli spying, citing
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: an alleged report, isn't the spying itself. There's no direct
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: spying on America because the costs of discovery would be enormous.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: But there's obviously a great deal.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Of analysis in open source work on America, just like
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: there is in a US intelligency on Israel. Neither side
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: is stupid, but as he claims, quote, there is no
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: direct spying on America, so the cost of discovery would
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: be enormous. I just told you that the cost of
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: discovery was actually nothing. Is that they are literally trying
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: to spy on top Us and Pentagon officials who in
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: some cases either oppose the war or expouse views that
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: were oppositional to their conquest of the entire Middle East,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: and they are getting no costs from the White House.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: The White House is denying that their own government's conclusion
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: of spying is not correct. And just to be very clear,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: there's no cost and.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: There's never been a cost.
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: No.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: When Johnson Pollard was discovered, you know, secrets to the Israelis.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Which they then sold to the Soviet Union, Yeah, there
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: was a.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Cost to him.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But then what happens years later, he's you know, his pardon,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, he goes back to Israel where he
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: now serves in the Kannesse Yes, and is getting invited
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: to meetings with Ambassador Huckabee and.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Serves in the Kannesse or either serves or he's running
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: for the Cannisset. I forget which one he's doing.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: One of those.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Basically a prominent Israeli citizen. He has advocated publicly that
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Israel nuke the United States.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Not joking. You can go and look up that clip.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: There's a former US citizen, you know, he a citizen
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: who is now an Israeli citizens who said Israel should
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: nuke the United States and forces them to pursue a
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: ceasefire in Gaza. Not joking, he actually did say that.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: And who you know, he's very proud of spying on
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: behalf of Israel and has included calls to other Jewish
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Americans telling him that they should spy for Israel. Let's
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: put ce sex up there on the screen, Mark Levin.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: He says the Israeli spying on US story is bullshit,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: which links to alleged debunking, all predicated on just the
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: White House denying that the report exists. Again, if the
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: report is false, then why did the Pentagon and the
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Odie and I deny or request for comment.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: You know why, because.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Even they did not want to lie on the record
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: to the press to say that the memo didn't exist,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: because it would mean that someone would lead immediately come
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: out and they would leak the memo.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: The details, some of them which I've been able to
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: gather the shin bet placing a bug in a secret
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: service vehicle. But the top one is about the software
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: installed on other officials. But the top, top, top one
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: is them explicitly targeting officials and others here in Washington
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: who they believe are opposed to their agenda. An immense
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: counterintelligence network that has been put up against them to
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: monitor either their communications or their beliefs and others to
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: make sure that they can try to influence the decision
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: making from the outside. There's a lot of other explosive
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: stuff in there.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I bet you know.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to press to see if I can continue
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: to report. But look, I just want to make very
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: clear to our audience this memo exists, and the White
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: House is straight up line one line about this and
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the details of this. I mean, it's it's crazy. It
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: is absolutely crazy. It places is there on the same
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: category or at least in terms of esterment as a
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: China and Russia. That's literally the level of threat that
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: they're having, except in this case they won't even acknowledge
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: that the threat is real.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insanity, and so much of our policy vis
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Avi Israel. If you really press lawmakers and supporters of
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: it just comes back to.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Like, well, they're an ally, so that's why we do this.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: They're an ally period and a story. And so this
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: really calls into well, why what are it looks?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: You know, for me, I view it from a moral lens,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: But if you're viewing this through a realist, you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: us first, America first lens, What are we getting out
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: of this relationship that justifies this? I mean it has
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: been has been utterly disastrous for the United States and
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: our strategic interest to go along with what the Israelis
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: want us to do, and then you see, you know,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: these actions being taken against us.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: It is so I mean, they're there is no one, literally.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: No one who actually believes that Israel does not spy
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: on us at all. Like that is just utterly preposterous
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and just an update. I looked at up Jonathan Pollard
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: ran for the Knesset, but Withdrew recently, So there you go.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Best of luck, Jonathan and your private citizenry there in Israel.