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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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  Speaker 1: six five. We are part of the Volume podcast Network.
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  Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman of the Action Network. Today is
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  Speaker 1: or Tuesday, Week eleven episode. We're going to break down
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  Speaker 1: the entire slate of NFL games. We're going to discuss
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  Speaker 1: our exact decision our Simon says, going to start to
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  Speaker 1: narrow down the option for a five faves to put
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  Speaker 1: in The Favorites podcast one hundred thousand dollars Pro Football
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  Speaker 1: Pick Them Contests two and three week. This past week,
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  Speaker 1: Week ten, Matthew Stafford, he was our hero this week.
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  Speaker 1: He could not light the magic lamp on our behalf again.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams, who we had at minus one and a half,
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  Speaker 1: kicked five field goals, fumbled their way out of scoring range,
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  Speaker 1: penalized themselves out of a made field goal allowed in
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  Speaker 1: third and twenty five conversion. Couldn't get those of us
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  Speaker 1: who maybe bet the Rams plus three and a half
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  Speaker 1: live through the back door from the Dolphins twelve with
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  Speaker 1: a minute left, truly dominated Miami and the box score
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  Speaker 1: and lost twenty three to Fife. Lie from Mark Tommy
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  Speaker 1: John Holmes Studios. I'm joined as always by my co host,
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  Speaker 1: my companion mikem Padre, my bff professional better sim In
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  Speaker 1: Hunter L.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm in Hey Chad, what's up? Brother dude?
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  Speaker 1: Nine am this morning I get a text from my
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  Speaker 1: personal Adam Schefter, who probably should have been focusing on
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  Speaker 1: math at that moment, but instead was texting me that
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  Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears talking about my kid. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: at school. The Chicago Bears fired Shane Waldron as offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: We will discuss like for the purposes of the betting conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Does this really matter as a life Bears fans. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is treating the symptom, not the disease. It's
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  Speaker 1: a classic Bears cheap out. It goes back for me
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  Speaker 1: to whin they drafted Caleb Williams the number one question
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  Speaker 1: why keep Matt ibra fluse? The main reason is because
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  Speaker 1: mccaskey's are cheap, and they didn't want to fire a
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  Speaker 1: coach with a year left on his deal and then
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  Speaker 1: have to pay two coaches at one time. But he
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  Speaker 1: had been a middling coach, an uninspiring coach, an uninspiring
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  Speaker 1: choice for two seasons, and you draft one of the
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  Speaker 1: most dynamic passers in a generation. Even if Caleb is
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  Speaker 1: everything we hope he would be, the odds of a
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  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback leading his team's success are so freaking low.
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  Speaker 1: Jaen Daniels is the exception. CJ. Stroud is the exception.
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  Speaker 1: That is why we call him exception. No, this is
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  Speaker 1: not what happens. So after year one, what's the scenario?
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  Speaker 1: You are firing the coach and the whole staff starting
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  Speaker 1: again in year two of Caleb's deal. You waited nearly
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  Speaker 1: half of his rookie deal at that point. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: frustrated with the McCaskey family. I'm so frustrated with the
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  Speaker 1: decision to not pay out Matt Ebrifluse and hire a
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  Speaker 1: new coach. Now they're fire and Waldron who is the
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  Speaker 1: head scratcher of a hire anyways, we know they won't
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  Speaker 1: backfill the new play caller. Simon you ready for this?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know who the new play caller is?
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  Speaker 2: I do not.
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Brown. The name doesn't sound familiar. Thomas Brown has
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  Speaker 1: an extensive amount of experience calling plays for number one
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  Speaker 1: overall picks. Because who can forget how amazing Bryce Young
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  Speaker 1: played last year and the way he dominated opponents and
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  Speaker 1: grew his confidence playing for Thomas Brown. Brown can bring
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  Speaker 1: that guidance and that magic to Caleb Williams. This team
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  Speaker 1: is a training wreck for eight more weeks. What a
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  Speaker 1: fucking waste.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also the season's going according to how we
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  Speaker 3: thought it would, right. We bet they're under for the
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  Speaker 3: win total just because it was gonna be tough in
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  Speaker 3: this division. Do we know it was the best division
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  Speaker 3: of football Chad, No, So it's it's only gonna get worse.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think this is really a that big of
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  Speaker 3: a deal, but I like the move for them, just
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  Speaker 3: because the players apparently went to the head coach and
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  Speaker 3: talked to him and just said, we need to basically
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  Speaker 3: fire Shane Walder.
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  Speaker 2: And they did it.
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  Speaker 3: So to me, the fact that it's veteran players like
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  Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and guys like that DJ Moore going in.
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  Speaker 2: There, that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Like those guys, they're not a rookie, they're not scared
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  Speaker 3: to speak up. They have been in the league a
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  Speaker 3: long time. They've seen a lot of offense. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: obviously you're pissed off, but this could sparkle you. Guys
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  Speaker 3: could steal this game, and that's that's something that the
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  Speaker 3: line movements told us that the professionals clearly like this
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  Speaker 3: move from the Bears cause they've been betting.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna dig into that. I definitely want to focus
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  Speaker 1: on that and the opportunity and the possibility.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to focus on the negative.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: You know, well, listen, you know, I'm a very rationally
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  Speaker 1: optimistic person. It's very hard for me to see the
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  Speaker 1: downside in just about anything. So I'm gonna pull myself
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  Speaker 1: up from the muck. We're gonna find a way to
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  Speaker 1: get through this. We're gonna see the opportunity potentially betting
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  Speaker 1: We had so much fun, Simon last year doing our
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  Speaker 1: live events getting together with fans. We did them twice
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  Speaker 1: last season, once during the playoffs, once during the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: We are doing another live event, and this time, Simon,
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  Speaker 1: we are doing it in your hometown, the fighting city
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  Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. We are coming to Philly, baby, the city
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  Speaker 1: you are my capadre, you are my brother in arms. Embedding,
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  Speaker 1: we're nailing down the final details. There will be an
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  Speaker 1: RSVP website. It's coming soon. If you were in North Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: if you were come on down. If you were in
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  Speaker 1: South Jersey, come across the bridge. If you were in Philly,
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  Speaker 1: come visit us. We're gonna be in Center City one
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  Speaker 1: month from today, December twelfth, We're going to a bar
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  Speaker 1: called Wicked Wolf right there in Center City, drinks, live
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  Speaker 1: Q and A with me Simon, Producer Matt Mitchell. It's
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  Speaker 1: basically a happy hour event five pm to seven pm.
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  Speaker 1: Come hang out with us. Then we're all going to
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  Speaker 1: hang out for the Thursday night football game Rams Niners.
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  Speaker 1: Mark your calendars now, come join us. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a blast. We're going to have some drinks, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do a Q and A about the game, anything
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  Speaker 1: else that's going on. Then we're going to watch a
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  Speaker 1: great matchup between the Rams and the Niners that we
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  Speaker 1: no doubt know. We'll have playoff implications. We'll let you
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  Speaker 1: know when, and we're to RSVP in the days ahead.
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  Speaker 1: All right, enough preamble, Simon. When I bought tickets for
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  Speaker 1: my kids first NFL game to be at the Link
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday night, Washington, Philadelphia as part of our When
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  Speaker 1: Millman Turns eighteen three days, three Games sportacular, I did
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  Speaker 1: not expect to get a Jaden Daniels Jalen Hurts battle
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  Speaker 1: for first place, epic showdown, and yet this is what
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  Speaker 1: we got. I got Jaden Daniels generational talent. I got
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  Speaker 1: Philly fan base mentally on the edge because of Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 1: Why has this line moved from three to three and
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  Speaker 1: a half.
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  Speaker 3: It's a short weekend, they're the home team, right, that's
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  Speaker 3: usually we always talk about that. That's such a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm shocked by it because it's so tempting
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  Speaker 3: now to take that's Washington on this number, just because
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  Speaker 3: this Eagles team has struggled against bad teams closing out
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  Speaker 3: bad teams, let alone good offenses. But the books know that,
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  Speaker 3: so they've moved this number just because they obviously need
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  Speaker 3: some Washington money. It's been all Eagles money. But that
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  Speaker 3: to me made sun Chat when it was at three, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: if it's three, you take the Eagles in that spot
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  Speaker 3: against a young, inexperienced Washington team that's never been in
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  Speaker 3: the spot before.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about it last week. Pittsburgh was a
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  Speaker 2: true first test for this team.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly though, I look back and that Arizona win was
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  Speaker 3: a big deal win. Right, We've seen how good Arizona
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  Speaker 3: has become. But that Pittsburgh game was a true test
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  Speaker 3: because that's a legit defense and as good as James
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  Speaker 3: Daniels did. He did struggle a little bit. This Eagles
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  Speaker 3: secondary is pretty tough. Like these rookies we brought in,
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  Speaker 3: they've been really good and this this defense has changed.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the linebackers we've batted to this team
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  Speaker 3: have been good this year. So I knew coming in
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  Speaker 3: it was gonna take a while for these guys learn
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  Speaker 3: fangs defense. And you know that's the story when learning
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  Speaker 3: a new defense. But that could be why the early
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  Speaker 3: money has come in. Right, you have an Eagles team
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  Speaker 3: at home that perceived to be the better team. They've
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  Speaker 3: been here before as well, right, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 3: not going to be new to Hurts playing for the division.
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  Speaker 2: That's what this game is.
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  Speaker 3: So for the Eagles, this feels like a must win.
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  Speaker 3: With Washington, it really doesn't. I could still see that
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  Speaker 3: even with their schedule, they will still be in this
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  Speaker 3: to win the division against the Eagles. Eagles, they have
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  Speaker 3: tough games remaining, so to me, this is more important
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  Speaker 3: to them.
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  Speaker 2: This is a must win to them.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of makes sense that they were resting guys in
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  Speaker 3: the third quarter because.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is such a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: There was no reason to keep trotting Hurts out there
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  Speaker 3: against that Dallas team. On the flip side, Washington was
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  Speaker 3: in a battle. Like we talked about, that was a
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  Speaker 3: playoff game until last second. It's a big deal in
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  Speaker 3: a short week. So I'll probably eventually take this three
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  Speaker 3: and a half. I'll probably give in, as you say
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  Speaker 3: it right now, if this goes back to three, I'll
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  Speaker 3: happily take the Eagles side.
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  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna end up on the three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that some public exuberants for Jayden Daniels comes
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  Speaker 1: in on Thursday. But you just said two things that
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  Speaker 1: are really interesting, And when I was doing some research,
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  Speaker 1: this is what stood out to me too. The Eagle
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  Speaker 1: secondary Mitchell and Cooper Dejen. Cooper Degen right now is
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  Speaker 1: the according to Pro Football Focus, the second highest rated
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  Speaker 1: defensive back in coverage in the NFL this year. That's
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  Speaker 1: how good he's been. And and he was getting pimped
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  Speaker 1: a little bit during that Cowboys game. He made some
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  Speaker 1: nice plays. He recovered the Ezekiel Elliott Fumbo, but Mitchell
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  Speaker 1: made really nice plays and coverage.
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  Speaker 4: Two.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. We talked about Vic Fangio
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  Speaker 1: and this defense, and we had sort of said this
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  Speaker 1: team is still learning how to play this defense, and
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  Speaker 1: we've seen them getting better and better their past car
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  Speaker 1: their past rush as all of a sudden elite right
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  Speaker 1: top range pass rush. According to Pro Football Focus, Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Carter second race second rated interior defensive player for pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: He's one year too late to guarantee us his Rookie
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  Speaker 1: of the Year for defensive Rookie of the Year, which
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  Speaker 1: is disappointing, but he's gotten really, really good. So those
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  Speaker 1: I think are two reasons also why the number moved
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles are a better team there.
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  Speaker 3: We knew they were gonna be a better team coming
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  Speaker 3: of the season, especially if the players they took, like
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  Speaker 3: we talking the secondary worked out for him and it has.
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  Speaker 3: That was the biggest hole we talked coming in the season.
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  Speaker 3: They could not stop anyone in the middle of the field. Defensively,
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  Speaker 3: they attacked that this offseason. Offensively, they couldn't pass against
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  Speaker 3: the blitz or Itch was terrible against the Blitz. They
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  Speaker 3: figured that out as well. So it's like a team
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  Speaker 3: that we thought we better. The surprise of the season
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  Speaker 3: has been Washington. So it just feels like all the
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  Speaker 3: pressure in this matchup's definitely on the Eagles. And that's why,
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  Speaker 3: like you just said, it's like I don't mind taking
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  Speaker 3: the three and a half if we lose it. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: so what did you think was gonna happen?
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles are the better team here.
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  Speaker 3: It's just really about playing this number where this Eagles team,
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  Speaker 3: I don't trust him this year.
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  Speaker 2: I just haven't.
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  Speaker 3: I know they've turned things around here, but like this
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  Speaker 3: just seems like a game they would let down and disappoint.
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  Speaker 3: So I see we were coming one and take the
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  Speaker 3: three and a half, but I honestly would be more
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  Speaker 3: comfortable taking the three. So I'm hoping it gets back
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  Speaker 3: to the three because it it seems like a good
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  Speaker 3: spot to keep fading this Washington team. That's just I
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  Speaker 3: mean again, we talked about going to last week they
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  Speaker 3: were five to zero. Is a favorite straight up and
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  Speaker 3: against the spread with a rookie quarterback. That was just
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  Speaker 3: one of the crazy things we'd ever said. It makes
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  Speaker 3: sense for them to start coming back down to earth
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  Speaker 3: here as we get later into the season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look the other thing we said, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: good transition to the Steelers and the Ravens, which is
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  Speaker 1: the next game. The other thing we said about the
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  Speaker 1: Commanders last week, and it's why we liked the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: last week, is the Steelers by far the best pass
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  Speaker 1: rush the Commanders would be facing so far this year,
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  Speaker 1: and it kind of showed like Jaden Daniels was rushed
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  Speaker 1: a lot, he was sacked, They were in the backfield.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of those third downs that he normally would
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  Speaker 1: be converting with his feet or by rolling out, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't converting. Similar situation here on the pass rush likely
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  Speaker 1: to come up the middle, which is an entirely different
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  Speaker 1: thing for him, demand even scarier sometimes. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind being on the Eagles. I'm not Russian about the
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  Speaker 1: three and a half. What I said was, I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: it gets to three. So when I'm sitting in the
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  Speaker 1: link and I'm able to legally bet in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, I'm hammering the Eagles at minus three. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be disciplined. If it's not there, it's
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  Speaker 1: not there. Home team is, by the way, seven to
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  Speaker 1: three on Thursday Night this year against the spread, but
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight and forty three since twenty twenty. From twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty to twenty three, all right, Baltimore to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: plus three discuss this Sunday night. There's no reason not
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  Speaker 1: to back the Steelers in the spot. It got up
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  Speaker 1: to three and a half yesterday immediately came down. Wise
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  Speaker 1: guys are moving this. The wise guy money is on
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers considerably more tickets on the Ravens. That's the split.
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  Speaker 1: So that tells you it's a pros Joe's game. Has
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  Speaker 1: anything changed for you Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: No, this is a Joe public bet, and we talked
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  Speaker 3: about it Sunday night. So there are still three and
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  Speaker 3: a halfs out there at the public like kind of
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  Speaker 3: the Joe Public books, So you're able to bet there.
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  Speaker 3: I would definitely go grab that because I I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I just this has to be three by kickoff. I
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  Speaker 3: just think they moved to three and a half because
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  Speaker 3: they need the money. That's the only thing makes sense
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  Speaker 3: to me. This This line feels like a three line
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  Speaker 3: should be a three line. We understand the Ravens offense
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  Speaker 3: is one of the best offenses we've seen, especially this season.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're just a juggernaut. The things Lamar can do.
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  Speaker 3: Like I really did think they were dead in that
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  Speaker 3: since the game. It was just all going wrong, and
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  Speaker 3: you just give him a little bit of life if
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  Speaker 3: you can get in a little bit of a rhythm, Lamar,
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  Speaker 3: he turns it on.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's unstoppable. It's like it's crazy how good he's playing.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if he's still favor
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  Speaker 3: for MVP, but it like it's hard to deny it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like there's no one else like him in the league,
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  Speaker 3: his style of play. So I see why the public's
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  Speaker 3: coming in on them, like they're just it's an easier
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  Speaker 3: bet to make, it's more comfortable. I still think they
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  Speaker 3: fully trust this Pittsburgh team despite beating their darling in Washington.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean you talk about like this is just
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  Speaker 3: us playing a number at three and a half, especially
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: in contests at Pittsburgh at home, a divisional game against
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: this Ravens team, but they've always done well against This
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: is the only team that Lamar really struggles against in
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the division especially, So uh yeah, I like Pittsburgh, Like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: the number Tomlin is a dog. It's just good to us.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: It's same thing as last week, like it's not easy
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: bet against these great quarterbacks, which mean you said last week.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: It's not easy betting against Jane Daniels. Same thing here
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: with Lamar. It's it's just trusted the number, taking the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: three and a half and trusting this defense in this
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: matchup that they've done so well because they've seen Lamar
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: so much. They know exactly how to plan because they've
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: just seen it so much. Just the only fear to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: me is the Derrek Henry effect. I don't know how
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: that's gonna affect this matchup because he is such a
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: game changer. So that's gonna be the one big thing
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I'll be watching this game is how they perform against
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Derek Henry early on, because we've seen it even since
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: he was able to shut him down. If you can
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: get him not if you can just shut him down
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: for a little bit, they'll go away from it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Oh eventually, just let it be.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: A pass happy offun swhich Lamar has been dominant this season.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: But you know, you take what you can get.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have Lamar pass than Derek Henry running for
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty yards.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is so far and away the favorite to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: win MVP right now. I'm not kidding. I'm looking at
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the Action Network site as we speak, he is minus
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: one ten to be MVP. When is the last time
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: we saw an odds on favorite for MVP after ten
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: weeks as a minus favorite.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And someone's not leading their division? Yeah? God, that's yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that is pretty crazy. Is that guy?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: That feels like a story. Someone's got to do a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: story about that. Matt Mitchell, get on that rally the troops.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Someone's got to do a story about Lamar Jackson being
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a minus one ten favorite at this point for MVP
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: in the season. Evan, when's the last time that happened?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Somebody give me some answers.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is crazy.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So look, everything you said is true. Whenever we're better,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and we've done this a couple times with the Steelers,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and we've we've held our nose and done it this year,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: including this week against the Commanders. Like Tomlin is fifty
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: eight against this fifty eight percent against the spread against
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: teams over five hundred. He's the most profitable coach in
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a generation as a dog at home nineteen six and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: three seventy six percent as a dog overall sixty six percent.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is a favorite forty two percent in this game.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Between Tomlin and Harbaugh, Ravens and Steelers. The underdog has
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: won has covered seventy nine percent of the time, including eighteen,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: two and three when the number is three or more.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Lamar as a favorite of more than three thirty four
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: percent against the spread.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: So that's that's a no brainer automatic in our contest
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of three and a half. I mean, we knew got
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: going in those trends only back up exactly how we
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: play this when we think about it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So that's great to hear.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the hard thing with this is always
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: is it just too obvious? Are we missing it? Are
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: we trying to catch a falling knife? With the Steelers?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Can you remember that they do this all the time
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: with Doug Hodges? Right right?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: That's that's my point to you want it's like, did
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: we bet this number with Mason Rudolph? We have to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: bet this with Russell Wilson at least he's like not
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: a functioning quarterback.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it makes this one sort of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: all right?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Simon says it. We gotta make it, sim say, Simon says,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Simon says three and a half, go grab it. When
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Simon says, we do what Sion?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Were you not planning on doing that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: No, there's another game, but that just I sent a
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: little bit of doubt in the forcing you a young one.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I need to bring you back around. This is this
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: is the game we always bet.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I've already bet it. You can look. You can look
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: in the app. I grabbed it a three and a half.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I've made two bets so far. Both of them are
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: based on conversations we had on Sunday, but I don't know.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Just like in for the same reasons you sort of
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: waivered on the Cults bills on Sunday because of Josh Allen,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a waiver on the waiver because of Lamar Minnesota at
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Tennessee plus six come down to skosh teeny tiny
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: half point. Yeah, this is a tricky game, dude.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Like you know what you have to do in this game.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I know, But let me run through it a little bit.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Let me break it down for people and let me
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: see if it sort of illuminates. We can play a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: little guessing game for listeners and see if they end
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: up on the same side. I mean, look, Sam Donold
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: has become quite pumpkinish since week five, right, He's now
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: tied for the lead league in interceptions with Gino Smith
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and Jordan Love with ten started the season with eleven
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first month, only six since then, could
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: not score against Indianapolis, could not score against Jacksonville multiple
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: interceptions in that game, bad interceptions. Neither of those defenses
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: are as good as Tennessee's. And believe me, I do
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: feel like I am the king of I'm sick of
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: hearing fascile broadcasters say, well, Dannessee defense is really good.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: They're leading the league in yards per game, Like that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is a stupid, superficial stat. There's so much stuff that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: goes into why a team might lead the league in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: few as yards per game, and it's not always because
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: they've just got a really good defense. But Tennessee did
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: play the Chargers. Even in the box score, they were
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: undone by seven sacks, a couple that sort of turned
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: potential touchdown drives into field goals. So I got other stuff.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But before I get there, talk to me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just I feel like I mean, we didn't even
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: talk about that. Minnesot GAMESA the night, but it was historical.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: No team had whatever it was. He had three or
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: four turnovers, they didn't score a touchdown and they still
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: won the game. I don't think that had ever happened
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: before an NFL history or something crazy like that. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: that says more about the Jaguars than anything else, right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: especially to you. I don't know if you watch any
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: of that game, because who would, But we bet the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: under because our guy shot doctor Nick gave it out
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and they scored that opening touchdown. Mac Jones is barking
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: at the defense like legit talking shit. This guy Mac
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Jones proceeded to get I think seventy five yards. The
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: rest of the game just a total clown show. But yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: this Minnesota team, It's like I said, coming the year,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I underrated their defense.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: That was definitely a blind spot and missed by me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: But I think everything I mean you talk about coming
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: to year about Sam Donald has rung true. And it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: like Kevin O'Connell is that good of a guy. He
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: could scheme it up early on. But once the defense
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: has figured out what this, what they were doing, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: what Sam Donald can do, they've taken it away. And
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you've seen him just struggle now, especially trying to throw
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, which feels like we're
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: all of his interceptions app you just can't see the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: guy coming out of his blind spot that just keeps
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: picking off a guy he thinks is open.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And if this.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Isn't the spot for Tennessee, I don't know when it is.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This has to be the bottom. You can't get any lower,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and it sucks. We had a six and a half.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: It's now gone. Most books are at six, which is
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: unfortunate because I really wanted at six and a half,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and at contest i'd felt comfortable putting six and a
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: half fits five.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: And a half.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let us take a bad number on
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: this Tennessee team because they're that bad. Like, it's just
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I want the best of the number, especially on betting
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: this bad of a team on freaking well Levis against
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: this really good Vikings defense.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: So this has to be it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: This has to be the spot we buy the Tennessee
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: team because it's just it feels as low as you
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: can get, Like I have this number four and a half.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: We're getting a ton of value here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Listen at seat team, But I deep down don't want
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: to bet them because of Will Levis.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: That's the honest truth.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Chet, Like, there's other games I like better on the board,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: but I'm with you that this is definitely a number
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: on a spot we have to take this Tennessee team.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So that was my entire logic in the outline. We
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: look at this Viking's defense and they've basically been pretty
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: pretty predictable the past month that they've gotten lit up
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: by qbs who are can handle pressure, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They've dominated Joe Flacco and Mac Jones. Right, And so
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to me, the X factor here is Will Levis yea.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And in actually my notes I called it the ick factor.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bet on Will Levis. I know
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it's the right side. I know the number right now
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: still dictates a little bit of value, but I cannot
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: let this be one of our very precious five contest plays.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I think we agree.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Do you agree.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: This one is really interesting? Cleveland and New Orleans. New
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Orleans is now a one point underdog, one of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: biggest movers from Sunday night, I flagged this at Cleveland
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: plus three. To me, forget about any metrics. It was
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: purely and obviously all public perception. Right bookmakers posting a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: number taking advantage of the euphoria around the Saints whin
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think any lingering thoughts of Jamis
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: from the week before played into it, but certainly it's possible.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: At three, I really liked Cleveland. I think I still
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like them at one, but a lot less.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say I'd be okay with them at
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: three or two, two and a half.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But there's no way I bet this now.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I honestly lean towards the Saints team just because this
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Cleveland team they're just bad.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: They're a bad team in James Flinston's.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Bad and like, overall, I know they're coming off of
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: BI week here and this is I guess there's a
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: spot for them to take and fade of the Saints.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But this is another game I'm happy to sit out.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I don't want to bet anything on
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the Saints again. I really don't want to bet Cleveland
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: at a bad number.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Now. I felt like, dude, the Saints, we had our taste. Yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it was a delicious meal.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's like they had its moments.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like trying the poison fish. It could
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: be the greatest meal you ever have in your life.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I have the stomach to try
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it again.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I do not at all.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Browns defense still one of the tops, and pressure rates
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: top three, top seven for overall.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the unders, you can have fun there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. But like, but also as much as
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: we hate there, Like, he is actually better against pressure
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: than almost anyone football top three in big time, throws
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you near the lowest percentage of turnover worthy plays. So like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, he is a quarterback who has seen it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he's one of the best quarterbacks throwing a
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: deep ball when he knows he's about to get punched
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: in the face of someone's helmet. Like, he is so
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: good at it, he needs it. It's the only time
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: if you know one's coming at him, he will sell
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that ball twenty yards too deep. If he's about to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: get hit, it's gonna be right on step for that
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: wide receiver.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's truly a psychopath.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Say this about the Car brothers and whatever was happening
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: in the Car family, those are the two losing his
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the history of the NFL, no joke. If
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you look at like career records at fifty games, sixty games,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: seventy games, like, there is no two quarterbacks who have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: lost more games than these two guys at various thresholds,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: but they can take a fucking beating. These two guys,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: like it is insane, how willing they are to just
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: stand there and get punched in the freaking face.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know that another life they would just would
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: have been bull riders, but instead they were quarterbacks the NFL.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: That's the type of true, so true, just a couple
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of rodeo guys. I covered the rodeo once. Kingfisher, Oklahoma
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: covered the the only female bull rider on the male
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: rodeo circuit. One of her events, she got knocked off
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the bull, ended up in the hospital, had to get stitches.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Her thirteen year old daughter was with her. It was rough.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I got got out of Kingfisher right away. Jacksonville at Detroit,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: You guys just kept banging away right. We did whatever
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: we had to do. And I'll just say this again,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: this is what great teams do. This is what great
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: teams do. Even when you're having an off day, you
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: find a way.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Man. Detroit is a thirteen point favorite, nearly two touchdowns.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Oh goad, Okay, here's my question. Are the Lions the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Patriots exception? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the line is. How many tickets are
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: backing them ninety six percent at this point, if they're
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: at home, I feel like we play them. Do you
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: put them in the contest? I don't know. Do I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like them more? Coming off of a terrible game?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't be a worse decision of our
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: life at thirteen, I mean twelve and a half if
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: we got a twelve and a half in contest.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Honest to god, simon the number of bad decisions we
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: have made this year, Like, I would not feel bad
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: at all taking the lions if we can get a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: good number in the contest, Like coin flip.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just taking number now. I have it at fourteen.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I have it right on fourteen.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Well it's at thirteen right now, right.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: So it's like, but we always we always just want them.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: We we're greedy. We want the best number, specially may
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: have a favorite.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: So just an amazing stat by Evan this is Detroit's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: biggest favorite since nineteen ninety five.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty incredible.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence might be out for the year, so might
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: get more of Mac Jones. Yeah, you know you mentioned
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: how bad the Jaguars were, so you know, I love
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell at ESPN his Monday column as a staple
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: for me. He had these notes about the Jags before Sunday,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: no team had lost a game in which it allowed
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: zero touchdowns, offensive touchdowns and forced three picks since the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: year two thousand. Teams had gone ninety three oh in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that range across the final forty five minutes the Jaguars produced.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You just mentioned how many yards the Jaguars produced, sixty
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: two net yards on offense, the seventh few is produced
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: by any team in the final three quarters the past decade.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But here's a good comp We all remember COVID. We
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: all remember when the Broncos had to have a game
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: where wide receiver Kendall Hinton had to start hinting and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the Broncos had twenty four more yards of offense in
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the final three quarters of their loss to the Saints
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: than Jones and the Jags did in Week ten. Keep
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: fucking talking Mac Jones. While you're doing it, We're going
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to fade the Jags as two touchdown underdogs on the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: road against a Lions team that had a miraculous comeback
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: but showed their medal and are in the driver's seat
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to finish first in the NFC. Love It, Take It,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Book It, Green Bay at Chicago, Chicago plus six. So
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it was six and a half on Sunday.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the most public side of the week other
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: than that that Detroit game.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what that means.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Speak for yourself.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Well, look, you almost convinced me on Sunday night, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I try to sort of remove myself from where I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was mentally on the Bears and just look at this
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: sort of rationally right. So it's down to six home
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: division dogs of six or more the past ten year,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: barely over fifty percent against the spread. That also includes,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: by the way, that this past week and the Cowboys
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: losing home division dogs this season eight fifteen and one,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: twenty four, thirty seven and three forty percent past two years.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That includes the Cowboys and the Colts losing this weekend.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Do you guys get anyone back on the offensive line.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the updates yet. Obviously that's a massive,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: massive Issue's.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That's the biggest issue. Yeah, jar hasn't done a touchdown
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: on what three weeks.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Look, if Thomas Brown can pull out that magic made
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young so comfortable last year and put them in
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so many positions to succeed. And the Bears get a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: little bit of help on offense, protecting Caleb Williams and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen can get any separation, and Dj Moore can
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: actually run a route, Roma Doonsay can catch a ball.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: You had a good game yesterday. But I don't know
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: to do this because I want to take the Bears.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: But it's it's you know, this is the Classic. This
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: is as low as it gets for this team.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it might get lower if they lose this game.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: It's only going to keep getting lower. That's the thing here.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, are we at the bottom yet? I don't know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: because this is just a brutal spot for this Bears team.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: They're playing a team in the Packers, that really needed
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: a week off to get healthy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: They got it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Now they're coming in here against a team that is
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: just We talked about that that game was either gonna
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: break them or make them that Washington game, and right now, Chad,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: through two weeks, it's broken them. I mean, they just
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: got rolled by Arizona and then just no showed at
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: home to New England.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: So I just I can't have faith in killablellions. That's
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: my issue.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: If you guys had a veteran leader at quarterback and
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: maybe I'd be around, Like flip it. We already we
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: talked coming this year. This kid hadn't been dealt with adversary.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: His adversary was at USC losing to whatever it was
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Washington State in the Pac twelve and like that that
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: was tough. It's like, I don't know, it's just tough
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: for me to want to back them here. So if
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: we don't take it, I'm cool with that too, because
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I know you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Don't want to. You don't want to go against your
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: team here.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But I'm most likely going to end up on the
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Packers here, even if it's a bad number like six
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: six and a half.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of where I was starting to lean.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I think you you might have misspoke for a second
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: ago because you said you want to take the Bears.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And I do, but I can't do it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I kind of can't get there. I'm
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: leaning Packers. I know the situation the Bears defense is
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: actually fine. I mean, Ibra Flues should just be a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You know, there's still top five and e
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: pa their pass rush is great. Jordan Love is having
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a very inconsistent mediocre year, not very I.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Do want to say he's been hurt. I know he's
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: been injured, like obviously super upset. He's been hurt bad. Yeah,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I mean that's excusable, right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And so he's going against a defense that can do damage.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Like the one strength the Bears have is rushing the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: passer and in coverage, and so I do think that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: an edge. But if these and also the Packers have
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: no pass rush and they've traded away like Preston Smith
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: who might have been the only guy.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: How many sacks in New England have Chad nine sacks?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: That's my point.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: New England didn't have a pass rush. Yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: The problem is I just don't know. I don't know
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: anything about this offensive line yet. Yeah, years of ed
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: what eleven players play thirty snaps on the offensive line.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I think we need more intel. I'm
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: going to put a flag in it. I'm going to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: bring it back on Thursday and like what we've learned
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: about the offensive line on Thursday, I'll make a note.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I just put it in my in my Favorites notebook. Listen, Simon,
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• 38:23
  Speaker 1: love the Raiders right now? Oh yeah, love the Raiders
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: at seven and a half. Kent, Kent, Kent, deny it
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: like you're getting the hook right now. Fifty eight percent
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of the tickets on the Dolphins fifty eight percent of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the money on the Raiders. Like, I watched that game
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: until the Dolphins converted a third and twenty five and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: went to bed. The Rams kind of dominated that game.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: To me, this is only about the number. There's no
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: reason to look at this and think, yeah, the Raiders
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: have a chance. It's just about the hook.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just football, right, Like we bet this stupid
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: number plenty of times on the team we didn't really leaving.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But it's the same with Miami.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: You just said we don't really believe in Miami either, Like,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: we have a lot of questions about this Miami team
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that still have not really been answered. They're just they're
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: just not the team they were last year. That's the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: hardest part for me is I keep thinking they are
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: the team from last year and they're really not. And
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: like I wanted to take them in this spot, right
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: because they're at home, especially the Raiders, having the Raiders
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: in their black jerseys in that sun at home, this
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: would be an automatic smash spot.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: They're going to be dead by the fourth quarter.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, happy to throw a little on the Raiders,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: and if the Raiders are winning heading into the second half,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I will put a decent amount of money on the
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Dolphins going to the second half, and that would probably
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: be the play for me.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: But I'm with you.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It's a game that, like I feel, even though it's gross,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I'd rather take Tennessee than take this Raiders team. It's
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: just me and you both thought that the Raiders felt
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: like they quit a couple of weeks ago, and that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the fear with betting this team right now.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: They might have simply just quit.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Uh Luke Getzi was the former offensive coordinator for the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Other coordinator other than the Bear's coordinator fired
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: mid season. Los Angeles Rams at the New England Patriots,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots four and a half kind of one
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: of the bigger moves on the board, very big move
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: since the Monday night game. Was it five and a half?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Moved to four and a half. Betting tickets on the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Rams the money coming in on New England. I'll be honest,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that feels overreaching to me.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, were supposed to take the Rams here?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: That Yeah, it's just a pure overreaction to this previous
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: week where the Patriots.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Did they look that great? Did you watch a lot
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: of Chicago Gamer?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: No, of course, I did well.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch much. I don't really know how this
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Patriots team did. But it felt like it was more
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: about Chicago beating themselves than it was the Patriots beating them.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And no, it was it was two things. It was
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a yeah, I mean the offensive line. Look, you get
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: sacked nine times, right, you know you're going to lose
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the game. Caleb couldn't throw the ball, held on to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the ball too long, or they were all over him
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the second it happened. But the Bears couldn't stop anybody
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: running the ball. They were truly terrible stopping to run.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So it was an impressive effort by the Patriots. But
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: this is a massive overreaction to me, I don't get
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the move.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Actually yeah, but I understand that point.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: If you're a professional, you just don't trust or like
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: this Rams team, which I know a lot of professionals.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: We talked to gun the last week. There were some pros.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Big money came in on Miami, the same guys that
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: came in the week before in the Seahawks, And it
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: makes sense they're doing it right here, like they just
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: they think something's off with the Rams, and it's hard
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to argue against it. Where you got Stafford Now six
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: straight games with an interception, that's a big deal, Like
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: that's nothing, just a poop pooh. It's like, well, you'd
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: have his weapons back for half of those, okay, but
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: he's had his weapons back and it just has not
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: looked the same.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Doubt you're doing it. But I watched all twenty two
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: because I was like, okay, what am I missing? What
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: is staff or not reading? And there were guys shrieking downfield,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: but he was just scared of getting hit last night,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: so he was just kept taking the underneath like he
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: didn't look deeper. He did have guys downfield, and you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: coming to that game, he had him been sacked in
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: two weeks. They brought in their starters and that reshuffled
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: for some reason, affected them negatively that offensive line last night.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: So U in this matchup against his Patriots team, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: don't think that d line's that good. I know they
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: had nine sacks last week, but we just talked about
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I think it was really about the Bears team. So
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: if we're gonna bet them in a bounce back spot,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: this feels like the spot of this Rams team. But
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it's when you just kind of nailed it. I'm not
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: gonna rush to bet. If the professionals are gonna bet
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: it down, I can possibly get a four.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I'll wait.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I'll throw a little right now in the four and
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: a half. But this this feels like it's gonna bean
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: that that middle zone. We'll I'll go back up to
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: five five and a half by kickoff. It just this
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: will be one of the more teas teams this week,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: in this Rams team, because they're now four and five.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: They know this is a muss when I can't really
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: see them overlooking this Patriots team and just you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: go in there and struggle.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: It was a frustrating game to watch the Rams last
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: night because you kept feeling like they're moving, they're moving,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they're unlocking, they're unlocking, and then they would just get
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: stuck like the Gears would.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: N Everything wrong, everything nail. Everything was going wrong. The penalties,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the fumbles, it was.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Just bad snaps, like.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you kicked five, they kicked five field goals, it
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: was or they kicked six and they missed one.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: They missed one, they kicked six, made it and then
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: got pushed back five yards because of the penalty, and
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: then missed it. Yeah, brutal road favorites of three points
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: or more off of a loss as a favorite at
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: home fifty eight percent against the spread since two thousand
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and three.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So another reason why, Like immediately this move felt felt wrong,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Evan backed it up with a little bit of research,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: so I feel better about it. But I'm with you.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I'm putting it on the board as an option. I'm
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: not rushing to the window.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: It feels like the right reaction from the public though,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Like you just said that, watching that Rams team last
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: night was disgusting.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: That was brutal. It was like literally painful to watch.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: It was discussing, and they still should have.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Won, right, So I get where they're coming from.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: That.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I can see why the early money would come in
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: on the Patriots.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: It makes sense.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's the wrong move.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis at the New York Jets, New York Jets are four.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh god, uh dude, you got to explain something to me.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Talk to me.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: This line has moved from three to three and a
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: half to four. At that three six five. The majority
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of the tickets are on the Jets, so this is
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: clearly a public move the money is basically evenly split.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: We talked about this game on Sunday night and we
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: both kind of liked the Colts.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Colts. I'm shocked that the money moved
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: it up the fence.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: This doesn't make any sense to me.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. But maybe we're just a sucker for this
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Colts team. But it's like.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Every week, it just feels like they've been unlucky these
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. And that's the issue where it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: like we can see how they're a good team and
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: they're a good offense, and.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: That their defense isn't as terrible as Super Seed. I
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: mean even last week.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I know that the Bills blew them out, but I
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: feel like Josh Allen didn't throw for a touchdown, he
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: had what two interceptions, Like he didn't play great against them,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Like there are ways to attack teams with this Colts defense.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's so tough one buddy.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: But I'm trying not to react to it because the
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: same thing happened to the Jets last week and I
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: didn't react to it. Where it's like I know that
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: there is smart guys coming on this Jets team. Can't
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: fault them for this team has a ton of talent.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: But you nailed it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: You said it with Colherd, like they don't have a coach.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: That's a big issue right now in the NFL if
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: you don't have a head coach. I don't think that
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: the Jets have a head coach. So I'll be patient.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe if there are some on the four here, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: that would be amazing. He got the four and a
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: half on this Colt's number, Like, that's that's where I
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: feel comfortable Ben Joe Flakcker right now, because he's been
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: so bad these last couple of weeks.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, mister Roger Ebert of NFL Film Watching, did you
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: watch the Aug twenty two on the Colts Bills. No,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you did not, because it sounded like, for a second
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you were about to say what I said on Sunday night,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: which is the Colts weren't awful in that game. They
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: had four bad plays.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: What I said, their defense wasn't the Joe Flacco was
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: he had three turnovers.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, four bad plays, really four bad And by the way,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in sixteen minutes of play, four bad plays, that's really
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: not that bad if you really, if you boil it down,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: if you look at the totext of the number of plays,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're a little bit for Love and
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the Colts here. The Jets rush defense is terrible bottom
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: third and just about every advanced metric from EPA per
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: rush to rush yards allowed over expectations to misstackles. And
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: if you watch that game against the Cardinals, they tackled nobody.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It was embarrassing.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Sauce has gone from an all pro to a guy
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'd won as my second
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: or third corner.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: It's bizarre. His fall off in a year.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: It's stunning. Right. And look, the Colts rushing offense, we
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: love them. I think that's I think this is sort
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: of our look at the end of the day, we're
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: probably a little old school, right, and this might be
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: our Achilles heel. The Colts offensive line as a rush
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: blocking unit is great. The Colts is a rushing offense
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: are great. Last week they had more than one hundred
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and twenty yards on the ground. They averaged more than
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: five yards per carry. Like the things that we expected
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to happen in that game happened in the way we
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: thought they would happen. I think that's why where we
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: have got a little bit of confirmation bias here because
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: they did the things we thought they would do, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the Jets also just burned us. I think that that
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: those are our issues that we got to be aware
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: of right now. It'll look deep inside, you know what
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, Okay, Atlanta at Denver it feels trappy
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to me, feels like a huge.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Side because I really want to go to Atlanta.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, so do I.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think the numbers move too much.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this numbers move from one and a half to two.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I think it's because of wise
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: guy money.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I think there's no chance that
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: bon Nicks could win rook of the Year just because
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: of how good Jane Daniels played this year and the
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: way the schedules laid out. But if bone Knicks gets
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: this team to nine wins, I think that would be
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: more impressive than what Jane Daniels has done, just because
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: all the shit on them, right. I mean, most guys
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I know professionally that great out quarterbacks had a second
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: round grade on bow Knicks and they put pooh Sean
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Payton and it's not just bon Knicks. Obviously, the defense
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: we've talked about their defense Denver has been much better
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: than a lot of us thought they would be. But
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: the bow next thing is just impressive. Like that drive
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: he had against Kansas City. I know he did nothing
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: in that second half, but he did have a two
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: minute drive that put them in the position to kick
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: a short field goal. That was just big time. So
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I wanted to take them Denver coming into this. I
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: was like, they're a team I believe, and I could
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: see their defense getting stop especially against this Atlanta team.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Atlanta gets no pass rush, which is gonna be great
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: for bow Knicks.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: But at two and a.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Half, it feels like the value now is on Atlanta,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: so I'll take it. But this isn't huge where it's
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: like we have to put this one in. But I
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: might fall in love with this beat come Thursday and
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: this weekend. It's just a good number on a veteran
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: guy like Kirk in this This Atlanta team against a
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Broncos team that just had a really emotional loss in
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: a divisional game, and this would be a classic letdown
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: spot for them. On the flip side, this Falcons team
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: is going to be really pissed off like that was
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a brutal loss against the Saints, and now they're on
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: the road again against this team. So yeah, really interesting
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: game this Mone because this is another game that fields
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: like a gross playoff game like these both these teams
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: can use to be in the playoffs this year.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: And that's how I feel about this game.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Here, huge undervalued spot for Atlanta, which even though we
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: love the Saints in that spot, yeah, you bet the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Saints they could have won that game on Sunday, right
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: they had. They had two miss field goals, including one
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: with six minutes left, nearly five hundred yards of total offense,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: nearly two hundred yards in the ground. Bijon is playing
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: lights out like he has been a phenomenal all around
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: player this year. We talked about that run he had
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: down the sideline, where like it should have been a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: five ten yard game, but because he's so freaking fast,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's run by everybody and they're
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: grasping at his shoulder pads and they can't get him
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and he scores a touchdown. The Broncos defense, we had
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: some concerns heading into the Chiefs. We thought did the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Ravens expose something. I don't think they did. I think
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the Ravens were just awesome and the Broncos had a
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: bad day. Proved a little bit of that against the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: chief fourth and pressure rate first and blitz percentage. Kirk
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: is a weird guy against pressure, like it tends to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: not bother him. But there are a couple of outliers
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and stats where he's not great, especially when it comes
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to turnover worthy plays, and he himself is inviting pressure.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So there's a cool stat like QB pressure rate is
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: really based on how much blame do the quarterbacks shoulder
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: when they are pressured. He's fourth highest. I mean he's
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: just holding the ball for a long time. Also, he
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: can't move, so that's like what's giving me pause a
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: little bit. Is the pressure component of this. So yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: not a rush, But I'm with you. I'm glad we're
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: on the same side here. We both like Atlanta Seattle
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: at San Francisco minus six and a half. Like you
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: suspected this was going to move from seven to six
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and a half, And I'm still trying to figure out
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: why San Francisco deserves to be this much of a favorite.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Right now, this feels entirely based on sort of public
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: perception and expectations to me, not anything that we've actually
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: seen from them on the field.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I know. But the more I've looked at this, it's like.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: It makes sense in a lot of ways, just because
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks have been that bad and Gino Smith has
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: been that bad this season where we joked earlier the
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: year he was like leading the league in yards, but
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: it was like meaningless yards.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: It was in the games where they were never really
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And this team, I guess we could say of the
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers, this is this number. Now I feel
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: like it's not this high because the books are counting.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Last week I got cover for some reason, like them.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It's not like they're holding the field goals against them,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: because I'm with you, it's like I thought someone would
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: come way down. It's hell, it at six and a
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: half at this point, so I don't really have a
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: bet on it. I wanted to be on the Seahawks,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: but I'm just hesitant. It's just I just don't really
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: trust them. And you said it were the forty nine ers,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: they might click, like they might finally start clicking and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: get everything running here smoothly. And it's like they're gonna
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: be what they were last year, which is a really
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: high powered offense.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But when's that gonna be chat I think you're right.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: It's like we don't know because it's not the same
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: team obviously, and they just haven't been this season. So
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: it's one I'm not desperate to bet on the Seahawks,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: but I did want to kind of take them when
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: they were at seven. Now that it's going down, it's like,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know, do I really have to force the
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: betty on the Seahawks.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: So I think the offensive line has struggled. They just
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: haven't been very good. They weren't that great going into
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, and they've they've sort of always gotten
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: by with it because Trent Williams is so good that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: all they had to do was really run some kind
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of zone scheme for Christian McCaffery or Nebo Samuel to
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: that side of the line. It's been a struggle. You
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: noted before the year began, like his holdout might impact
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: him in a way over the course of the year
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: that we don't really understand the Seahawks. Meanwhile, they just
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: released their leading tackler to Real Dotson, so That should
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about how they feel about
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: their roster and the direction they're headed right now. They're
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: still they're trying to figure things out, you know. So
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's a tough game, tough game to bet on. Confidently,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Canada City at Buffalo Buffalo is a two and a
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: half point favorite. Look, this was Chiefs plus one on
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Sunday night. Professional betters have moved this to two and
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a half. There's nobody in the public betting on the Bills.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: You were adamant Sunday night that we just take the Chiefs.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: To me, like the this is like gut check, playing
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: with fire. When does it regress? You know, all the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: things that make us nervous betting the Chiefs. They can't
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: keep doing it the way they keep winning. They've won
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: nine games by a total of fifty six points. They
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: are underdogs to the Bills the fourth time in the
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl era a nine to ohero team or better
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: is listed as an underdog. Kansas City in twenty thirteen,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the Bears in eighty five, the Rams in sixty nine,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: two and a half. How are we not pulling the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: trigger on the Chiefs?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Thank god, you're getting me scared because this was this
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: was like the forty nine Ers game all over again.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: When the Chiefs are in the year you were overthinking it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: You wanted to be on the forty nine Ers. Then
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: finally on Sunday you came around to the chief So
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I'm happy.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Armed boy.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Don't ever think this. We bet with the public every
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: now and then. This is starting to become a lesson
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: of ours that it doesn't matter. Everyone knows it. You
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: just bet it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: And so what the professionals do?
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: They bet against him in this spot because it is
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: the logical move and everyone's model, which correctly made the
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Bills a favorite, because if you're just looking at this season,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: why would you think the Chiefs are the better team
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I Mean, we've all joked about they should have at
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: least three losses on their record, most likely this season.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: But you know, we talked.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: About the Mahome magic, whatever it is. He is incredibly lucky,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: like there's no doubt about it. He's the best quarterback
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: we all know. But as far as luck goes, it's
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: crazy between the reps, all of it. It's just it
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: feels so good to be on the side of Betty Mahome.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Especially in these kind of spots.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: So we joked I learned a life lesson forever last
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: year in that playoffs game against the Ravens, and nothing
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: changed me. This year, I was gonna bet the bills
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: the Bills opened as a dog books it was all right, nice, mean,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Chad will take the bills here as a dog.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: So this is where we're supposed to bet them.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Now, it's two and a half on the Chiefs, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: people know I'm so obsessed with the two and a
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: half numbers, So this will be one of our five,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: just like Pittsburgh. I mean, we can literally after the
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: show chat lock our five and if you won't, because
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I already know what a couple are going to be.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: But Pittsburgh three and a half, it's same as the
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Chiefs at two and a half. Here, it might not
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: win people, but long term, this is a winner. This
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: is a spot we will make the rest of the
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: show exists. So until we lose three or four in
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: a row of Mahomes is an underdog Chad, then I'll
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: hop off this trend. I feel like that's gonna be
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: in the later stage of his career, when Andy Reid's gone,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: you know, Travis Kelsey's gone all of that stuff. Me
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: and you will adjust then right now with Spags and
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Andy Reid as an underdog, with Mahomes, that combination, we
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: bet this number here.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It's so funny you say that in that order, because
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: in the outline my last two notes coaching edge to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo, huge coaching edge. I don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: think there's even a question even.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Joe Brady's name. I love what the Bills offense has
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: done this year.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're head coach. Come on, at the end
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: of the day, do the on field matric metrics matter
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: as much as Patrick Mahomes? And that's really break.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Like I told you, my model thinks this should be
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: minus one for the Bills, and it's like, you know,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: not only is this a good number for them, but
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: it's like that's because I've adjusted it, where just I've
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: just made the Chiefs. I don't want to bet. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: guess the Chiefs. That's honest with the truth.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is a favorite of three or less or
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: as a dog twenty six eight and one as a
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: dog twelve one and one. So this is what I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to make my exec decision do it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I love it, all right, because.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Honest, I've been such fucking mush this year that I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: didn't want to run.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: You can't mush Mahomes found final last words by me.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Matt Mitchell, bring it back on Sunday.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: The choice between the unthinkable and the impossible executive decision. No,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: this is all music that Mitchell's use.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. Going to have so much breaking news
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: as we've been talking about this and literally as you mentioned,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you know, taking the Steelers. Just seconds ago, the Steelers
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: announced that Alex Highsmith will miss the game. I think
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal, to be honest, Like, this is
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: a much better team when he's on the field as
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the bookend defensive end.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: To t J. Watt.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I know they got Preston Smith, so that's not
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the same. Uh, it's a bit of a downgrade. We're
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: still going to take the Steelers, but more nervous. If
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: we're looking for reasons to be more nervous about it,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that's one of them. Cincinnati at Los Angeles Chargers. Chargers
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: are now one and a half open to two and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a half. Didn't make sense. We flagged it on Sunday
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that the Bengals should not be two and a half
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: point dogs moved all the way down to one. Professional
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: money moved the Bengals. It's now back up to one five,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: one and a half.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I love the Chargers, dude.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: It's so weird that you say that, because I know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: that we we have a soft spot for the Bengals
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow. We don't like betting against him. No,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: but like we have been avoiding this Chargers team because
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: their stat lines in each game are relatively even and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: they don't do anything remarkable. They're they're they're beating bad teams.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Their losses are the teams that are like above average
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: offensive grades across all the geeky advanced metrics that make
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: us feel better. But the thing is they also don't
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: do the stupid things. Yeah, they tend to grow those
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: pits in our stomach, right. They don't get the bad
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: penalties that the Rams got this week. They don't get
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the missed field goals that the Niners got this week.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: They're not inconsistent like the Colts. They don't have high
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: variance play calls that make us crazy. They don't have turnovers.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: They're the biggest one to me the dump.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: They don't do the dumb turnovers, which has been plaguing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: them for years.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: It's boring, predictable football. Yeah, so this was going to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: be my exec decision. So I love that you like
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the charger share to you give me your logic?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah for a lot.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Well you just said the matchup wise two I think
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: is really good for this team. I know the Bengals
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: just shut down the run kind of last week with
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: the Ravens team, but that's not who they are. They're
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: not good against the run, and I think that's going
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: to be really telling this game that they're gonna use
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: the run the set up the pass.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: And that's why Herbert's been so great this year, Like.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: That middle of the field is so open because these
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: linebackers have to step up because they have to respect
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: the run. And that's really unlocked a lot of stuff
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: he wants to do this year because we know that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Herbert's deadly accurate is his biggest issue has just been
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: the consistency. He's been inconsistent, and Harball has found a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: rhythm with him that he knows when he needs an
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: easy one to get going, like when he needs just
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: a little short two yard dump off to his tight
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: end just to get him in a little bit of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: a rhythm, and it's worked out. Like even when he's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: out of sync. I've watched other games where he get
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: him back and sink with a couple easy calls like that.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: So when a coach and a quarterback.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Are intain him like that, it's it's great. It's like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: they both know what they need to kind of get
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: this thing to work. On the flip side of this
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Bengals team, you know, we talked Sunday night where it's like, okay,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: this number is two and a half, and my first
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: thought was just gonna be this is gonna be the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: biggest public side of the week, Like everyone's going to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: come in on this Bengals team for what you just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: talked about.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: It's the fun, sexy.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Team, the high flying offenses. Team just put up whatever
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: it was, thirty five, thirty four points against the Ravens
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: on Thursday night, Like it's it makes sense why the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: public would like this team so much. But to me,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: look at this matchup, that number made sense at two
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: and a half.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: It's like two and a half three.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: That's what I would make this Chargers team because there
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: is no real home field advantage for them here, but
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I just think they're the better team overall. So the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: movement that's what makes me like it so much. It's like,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: this is real good value on this Chargers team. Even
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: if this doesn't win, fuss, because you know, Sat Higgins
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: does come back chat, maybe we'll get even better of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: a number. That's why it's like, you don't have to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: rush to bet this number now. I'm taking it out
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: just because I could see professional money coming on this
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Chargers team. Because what we just talked about, like matchup wise,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: this is actually a really nice matchup on paper for
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: this Chargers team, not just offensively, but defensively as well.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Burrow, you know.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I guess you didn't have that much pressure last week,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: but we've seen him struggle against teams that can't put
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: pressure on especially like you talked about earlier, that Eagles team.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: That's how they kind of dominate them in that second half.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Once he started getting pressure on him, there's not much
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: they could do, so be patient with this one. Like
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: if t Against comes back, maybe this flips. Maybe even
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: that that's what we really would love to happen. If
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: we get a plus one and a half on the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Chargers team because this is gonna be you know, it's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Sunday Night. This all the teasers, especially people getting seven
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: and a half right now, their teasers with this Bengals team.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: It's all gonna be tied in this Bengals team. So, uh,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I line, I'm happy to be patient with. But it's
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: definitely one that you know, it's either our big balls
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: or Foxhole bet on Thursday.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I would not be shocked.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I would expect T Higgins to be back. All indications are.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but that contract thing is real. Like he's missed
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: what now, four or five games this season, that's true.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: If he's not totally good, He's like, why would I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: risk it? Like I got to make sure I'm good
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: head into the offseason because that's what I'm gonna get paid.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: So that, to me has been a very interesting underlying
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: story here where he's been picking and choosing when the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: games he's playing because he's.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Like, if I'm not one hundred percent, I'm not risking it.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Look, you're so smart, and from a negotiation perspective, it
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: becomes clearer and clearer every single week how important he
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: is to this team, Like they're winning when he's playing,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: they're losing when he's not. He makes such a massive
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: difference in how defenses can defend against Jamaar Chase and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and they're gonna have to go pay for
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: someone else to do that, or they can keep Tea
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: against Really that is interesting. Now we're talking, all right, well,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to hold a pin in that one. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed this past Sunday when all of our games
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: were decided by one o'clock except for one, and so
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Sunday night was a bit of a reprieve from our contest.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that that's going to happen. It
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: feels like we're going to end up on the Chargers.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're not wrong Steelers Chiefs Chargers, Like
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I think we already lean a little bit a Colts.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: We could see Atlanta come in here. I wouldn't be
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: afraid of the Rams. Like this is getting interesting.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say a Lions twelve and a half is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: super tempting.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Lions twelve and a half. It
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: makes no sense not to do that. It just doesn't.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Houston at Dallas. It's the last game on the board.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Dallas is seven and a half point underdog at home. Look,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I want to be respectful of the audience. I wanted
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: to do our best to determine if there is an
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: edge in this game. Two entirely different collapses. The Cowboys
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: collapse catastrophic from a fan perspective, franchise perspective, ownership perspective,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: player perspective. Dak is out. This team looked like it
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: gave up, and the Eagles took the foot off the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: gas and basically played mercy ball in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys still almost won them to score touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: and hit the over by themselves. Houston obviously five five
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  Speaker 1: interceptions of Jared Goff and loses a squeaker of a
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  Speaker 1: game winning kick to the Lions. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: even watch this game.
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  Speaker 2: Signed that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna end up beating on Dallas because I just
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: feel that Egals game with them being a little bit
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: unlucky they're in that game. That Zeke fumbled out of
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: the end zone, that that was really to me the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game Like that to me was maybe
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: they could have kept that game a little close if
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  Speaker 3: he had scored that once that happened.
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  Speaker 2: It was dead.
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  Speaker 3: But you're right with Houston, they're supposed to get Nico
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  Speaker 3: Collins back for this matchup. That's the difference the Houston
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  Speaker 3: team we've seen these last couple of weeks. That's they're
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: not that they're not the same team. They're a totally
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: different team. When he's on the field, it opens up
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: so much for their offense. So you're right, this this
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: summer's price right, No need to force it in. I'll
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: just take the seven a half because I like taking
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: this Cowboys team and a really as low as it
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  Speaker 3: gets kind of spot like everyone's just bad mouthing them
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  Speaker 3: this whole week. The players know it. This is a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: standalone game. Usually this is when guys show up and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: showed some pride. But why, I don't know. It's just like,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I'm glad we don't really bet this one because it's like,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: you know, the whole Michael Parsons comments, talking about his
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: coach everything like that. It just feels so negative right
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: now at Dallas. I understand why people want nothing to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: do with this game, Like Chad doesn't want to watch
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: it either.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like it is more negative in Chicago
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: or more negative in Dallas as a completely impartial observer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, gotta be gotta be Dallas because Chicago.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Not that you guys are inherently negative, but like everyone
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: saw this coming a mile away.
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  Speaker 2: You guys over head build it up and then just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: for your gems, a little bit of an idiot, but yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: it's it's tough.
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  Speaker 3: But like like you just talked about with you guys,
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  Speaker 3: if you get you know, Ben Johnson wherever in this offseason,
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  Speaker 3: it's all different. Right, Even if they bring him Belichick
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: to this Cowboys team next year, it doesn't fix a
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: lot of their issues, have a lot of stuff they need.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: To work on.
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  Speaker 3: Where it feels like the Bears at least, you know,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: right now, the biggest issue is head coach offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm with you though.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: It's two major, huge fan bases in football and both
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: of them are just taking the rest of the season off.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Most likely Jerry Jones is standing there taking freaking bullets
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: right now, like going like the fact, he's yelling, why
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: don't we just tear down the whole stadium. Everybody knows
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: where the sun is going to be at four o'clock,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: as if to say the players should be ready, they
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be calling plays for that end of the end zone.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Like I am loving Jerry Jones postgame. It's getting meltdowns.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: He's literally the office meme. Shut up about the sun,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Like he just loses his mind talking about the sun
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's really is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny. We should just we should just tear
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