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POISONRANA LIVE 6/22/2025: Cena’s Pipebomb/AEW Grand Slam Mexico · Poisonrana

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, hello, hello, hello.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it means we are live on youtube.com slash at poison ranna pod.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hello tadpoles how are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: hello tadpoles hello friends it's friends
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's summertime, at least here, Toronto weather one day you're in a parka.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next day you feel like La Parka.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One day I'm La Parka.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's apologies if there's any sort of background fan noises on this show, but it is brutally hot in Toronto right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Incredibly humid, sticky bad air quality from wildfires and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to complain because it's taking a while for summer to get going, but I already, I had a little walk this morning, trying to wake myself up on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It definitely didn't do the trip because I'm a little like dehydrated and sweaty and just gross.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, here's to talk about wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this summer, that's this is the first hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hot day for us here in Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the weather's been it's been teasing us here and there with some like sun and everything but if it's it's finally like here and in full force.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had a couple of like nice days like mid-twenties and that kind of thing, but today was the first day I opened the front door and it feels like I'm opening the door to an oven just a hot air just hitting you right away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, as I said, apologies if there's AC slash fan noise in the background, we'll try and do our best to get rid of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's either that or we're sweating and passing out, talking about wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're going to be some sweaty frogs today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're joining us today on the Frogs Day, drop a frog in the YouTube chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, YouTubers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do this every Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least we try to shout out our manual for filling in while I was away from my father's day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and shout out all the listeners out there even if you listen on delay the YouTube replay is always available plus hit that follow subscribe in your podcast app we appreciate all the little things like that give us a nice little review comments all the fun things we appreciate every little thing and like we said it's hot out maybe you're you're outside maybe you're not watching us live and that's okay because it's the first real weekend of the summer maybe you're listening to i love on it when we used to do the
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[SPEAKER_01]: the zoom calls with listeners and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people would show up while listening, joining us live in their pool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes people will be at the beach tuning in live or wherever you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We really do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate each and every one of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to start on a bit of a downer, but I just wanted to start off this show by
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just talking about my friend James, who passed away this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wanted to sort of pay my respects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, like it was a bit of a shock to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a British guy I met when I moved here and he was a regular at my bar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you should go watch England games together and that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, like, tragically he took his life this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we are a community here and mental health is a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've tried our best to talk about it in the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've got shows like the wellness policy on post wrestling as well with Jordan Goodman where people open up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of our audience are male and and suicide is a thing that is
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... like really high like really high rate in in men especially and i just want to say we are a community here and we've got so many ways you can reach out to like us like right in myself other people in the community we've got that facebook group uh... where like luckily we we have people from all over the world all different time zones there's always someone in there if you need someone to chat to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't want to be a bummer but it sucks and shouldn't happen and yeah, just wish people could feel the strength to reach out if you if you need to or if you see someone who you think might be needing someone to talk to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, just just wanted to start with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely, all the power to you, all the love to you, brother, you were telling me about this the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is definitely affects people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that you don't necessarily see either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Recently, we did a behind the BDE, so this wasn't a story we shared in a bigger thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But someone I worked with recently, Spain saying, and it trickles down into friends and relationships and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter if it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: singular single bachelor or a married person with with a big old family it did it's it can come out of nowhere and it it's it's yeah and it's it's so often you hear and it this is certainly the case of my James well I
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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't see it coming like he was always alive for the party he would always come in big smile big laugh big hug like you you really don't know what's going on inside everyone's heads or behind closed doors so just you know encouraging people to speak out be open I'm always telling people I love them I'm always giving hugs like that's the kind of guy I am I know not everyone's like that but everyone can have a different way to
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[SPEAKER_00]: express themselves and reach out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as I said, we are a community here and I kind of just wanted to, to say use it, use us, use this community, use our listeners, our other podcasters, like we, we're pretty open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to talk to you if you, if you reach out, and especially if it's something you're, you're going through, like I'm, we're not therapists, but we, we're fellow human beings, and we love each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: absolutely no echo that we are very proud of our community based like ever since post wrestling kicked off john away we were quick to be a part of that and it's it's spiraled into us becoming you know close
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's friends, but then we've created our own little, you know, the up next into the Poison Rana and like doing these shows and everything and people have followed and you know what we're really proud of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't talk enough of how we've helped people become friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've created friendships just like how we've created, you know, wrestling is a thing we liked and it's our escape and that's made
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[SPEAKER_01]: connection between me and you become friends and in between me and you becoming friends we've helped a lot of people that you said all over the world who talked to each other all the time every day including ourselves we talked to friends of end the podcast and and our poison pals are NXT friends and our BSK out there like we we we owe a whole lot to this community so yeah you're you're not alone out there and you always have this show wrestling aside like you have this community we're always
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[SPEAKER_01]: shooting the shit and trying to make people laugh and escape and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going through something a little different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a loss in the family this week, which then kind of spiled into possible other people in my family going through some loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a bit of a whirlwind without getting too personal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've had a hell of a week as well where
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[SPEAKER_01]: some things in the family are are not not super great and I find I found a wrestling was a great escape to put on some lucha libre and uh...
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[SPEAKER_01]: It helped me, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's another thing like this community and watching and doing the show and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we say a lot between personal things going on, between the wars we wage with ourselves in our heads and between literal wars that are going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We spread love on this show, no matter where you, you are on political scales, this and that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: love Trump's also sending all the love to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: From trial to wherever you are, I love to you, my friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't use the the T word there, but yes, you are right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, as you said, especially like we might have to like talk a little bit about what's going on in the world later in the show because it could have effects with the Saudi Arabia show coming up next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a scary time and obviously like
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[SPEAKER_00]: like just, you know, going day to day life is hard enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, knowing and having to feed yourself, quote yourself, go to work, clean your house, like all those just day to day things can be like hard enough without
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[SPEAKER_00]: was breaking out in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People being snatched off the streets, being pulled away from their families, like all this stuff, like it adds on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you've got to lean on the things that you've got to try to make your difference in this world as best as you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, vote things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like things can make a difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not just talking, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like for presidents or whatever but local like if you want to see changes like oh and try those things to make an effort but most of all keep yourself happy and whether that's watching wrestling whether it's watching movies chatting to friends going for walks going to the gym you've got to take yourself care of yourself because if not you can't take care of each other as well
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We definitely pride ourselves on community, again, like that is one of the biggest things that we know how we might not be multi-millionaires, but we
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[SPEAKER_01]: We make a living through doing this, and it's not a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The weird thing is we review wrestling and talk about it, but our biggest thing is we love to entertain you in the only way we know how I know that might sound crazy, but I'm speaking for both of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that we both come from entertainment backgrounds, and
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[SPEAKER_01]: you with the acting me with the media and everything, but like our, we like to, this is show business in a weird little tiny way and whether we're, you know, we're not journalists, we're like podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess quasi influencers, which I hate to even say that, but like we're just a couple of dudes who record, used to record out of our basement, then the basement turned into a nicer condo and look at us now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we pride ourselves on just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know making making people's days better our biggest thing is when someone who's like a trucker or farmers out there who messaged us like oh your make our days go so much better because that and like that's like that's the fuel that keeps us going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got messages about things that we
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[SPEAKER_00]: completely forgotten we set as well and would we just had this week someone go back in our catalogue and find our capwoman review and saying how much they enjoyed it and how fucking awful that movie is you know it's it is funny like it it is it is fun and we we do love hearing from you guys and I appreciate everyone in the chat right now for their kind words appreciate for for real we got people from all over appreciate and yeah you know well let
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's try and lift this up a bit now and we'll go through some housekeeping before we go through the week stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have one final thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I said, I had a loss in the family this this past week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's something it had it was a reason for obviously when family gets together for times like this and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw my grandparents who I don't see too often that I don't necessarily live very close to them and my grandparents I lost an aunt so my grandparents are pretty shaken up that day I've lost a daughter which is never the way it should be going either way but so all the love to my family but in hanging out with my grandparents the store this is so bizarre
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you just follow me for a second, we're getting real personal on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why not share this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My grandfather always claims that him and my grandma, their first date was at like the hop, like at a dance function back in the fifties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like they're listening to the do up, all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, I learned that they actually initially met through a working out of grocery store at a big giant law of laws in Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, everyone in the family is under the assumption that they first, their first meeting was at this dance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My grandma, who has really no idea what I do other than the fact that I produce like radio TV on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She tells me that, no, my grandfather's been lying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first time they actually met was after a shift at the grocery store, the grocery store, nothing in the fifties, the grocery store in the parking lot,
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[SPEAKER_01]: had a wrestling show going on and my grandparents first met technically at the wrestling show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that fucking weird?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that crazy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's who would have they have seen in the fifty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been trying to look this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've been trying to look this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, the bunch of, you know, a bunch of carnies would throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm trying to even think of what it would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've found the location of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There used to be this giant law of laws with this giant parking lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they would do like little fairs and, you know, back in the fifth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fairs wheel in the park.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know, but apparently there was a ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once you guys doing
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[SPEAKER_01]: rounds matches in the fifties in Toronto and that's technically where my grandparents met and it was at a wrestling show so yeah I have I have now fact check with some of my family members like holy shit that's that's correct my grandma has no idea that I watched way too much wrestling so she wasn't like oh yeah wrestling just no idea what wrestling really is but I thought I would share that too so there we can share love on this show as well
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking through a who could have possibly been on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can, it was the, the chic, just branding someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I used strategy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was this maple leaf?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not quite sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I know maple leaf gardens now is also a loblas, which has just made people think more confusing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the top baby face in Toronto at the time was Whippa Billy Watson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can you imagine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe he was top of the car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: yeah anyway so there you go more more ways than you don't even know that wrestling can bring people together and that's what we're here to do to so again all the love to wherever you are in the world and to my grandparents but uh... anyways we we do have some housekeeping because we're gonna talk about some wrestling because wrestling's the reason we're here and that never ever
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[SPEAKER_01]: stops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a lot of wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go through WWE some SmackDown some pipe bombs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go through some grand slams from Mexico, CMLL and a whole lot more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as things change, things stay the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been doing a show called The Champ is here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may have seen we dropped episode nine, four free on this very free feed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't checked it out, we are joined by Beno and Hamflit from what culture grapple and in your house to talk about
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Cena's ninth title win and title reign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking Batista, WrestleMania, twenty six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about John Cena Batista and a whole lot more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We put it up for free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So go check it out if you haven't listened to it already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What a great show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just recorded for our patrons out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Episode ten, the champ is here, where we were joined by CM Scrumpt, the Chicago-made Scrumpt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To talk about the tenth reign double digits of John Cena, we're talking our truth, smoking cigarettes, we're talking the Miz being
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[SPEAKER_01]: awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about CM Punk and the original pipe bomb promo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, we just watched all of this this scene of stuff from
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch the pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just three of us scrumped David and I dissected the pipe bomb, dissected the whole CM Punk scene a few from two thousand eleven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this week, John Cena does his own version of the pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So very eerie that this keeps happening on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was a mammoth show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not all, not all very good, but some, I think this is a really interesting time period to talk about, because you definitely feel a shift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like there's definitely a change slightly in the company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some improvements being made.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still, I'd still say WWE is kind of in the doldrums for a while, but I definitely think the CM Punk injects this new life into the company in twenty eleven, which was much needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was really fascinating to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was just a great primer for this week's SmackDown as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's been bizarre doing this show like we started it I guess ten months ago really eleven months I guess of like thinking what should we we want to do a scene a show we're like ah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not look at a sixteen title runs not even thinking that they would turn seventeen into a storyline which they're doing the greatest hits with this john scene of run and it's like when you're favorite band from like twenty years ago come back on tour to do the album in full you know yeah it's like some of the songs are going to connect some of the other songs and maybe you should have kept that one
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[SPEAKER_01]: years ago, but we'll talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think this has been a such a fun show to go back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a great dare I say companion piece to the last time is now tour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So check out the champ is here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've done ten episodes now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be plotting our next few episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, maybe we'll have to do eighteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have some some things down the line to talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually we got to talk about Sena's pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People are like, hey, that'll be part of your episode.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are some shows you get over on our Patreon.
18:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We just dropped up a so ten with scrump.
18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, we've recently done some movie reviews.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did hot fuzz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've done big trouble and little China.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What else do we do last week?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Friday the thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do our
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, the thirteenth part four, we had our AAA worlds collide show recently, a whole lot on there next week who tackling another biggie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to have to start after this show because we're looking at the
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[SPEAKER_00]: four matches between Kenny Omega and Kazuchka Ohkada on the way to AEW all in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought there would be the perfect time to revisit this view, which is now seven years old, which is absolutely crazy to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I think when we started this podcast and we talked about doing this,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The matches have just happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think seven years is ample time and especially with the match happening once again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to be talking about that this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have plenty of time to re-subscribe to your new Japan world subscription or, you know,
19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Daily motion and I like how you assume anyone who's had New Japan does not world does not have it anymore.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know you and you didn't mean to be to just to just backhand New Japan, but like I'm in the back of my head going like am I still paying for my since you're not I went to check we're not but yeah, we make to be going through the dominion matches restricting to match
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the G-One match, which, uh, and break it down and kind of trying to decipher what is the best match between Kenny Omega and Kazuchka Okada.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these are some matches, some people say, are the best matches of all time and we're finally gonna look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right when we started the Patreon, we're like, okay, well, this is an easy one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could just do the series and we're like, ah, well, still kind of fresh and we decided to hold off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're going to be going to their next match and we thought after we watch this we will add a portion of ourselves watching the newest one and add it for maybe a rerelease down the line but we are looking finally at this rivalry
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okada Omega best about machine rain maker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put a feedback thread up either later tonight or tomorrow on the Facebook group and the Patreon and I would love for any of you to write in go back reminisce watch back some of these great matches and we're going to chat all about it and we'll find out which is the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited about this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the easy show where I just watch lit wrestling and it's going to it's going to be great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to we're going to nerd out of over these matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Braden, something I love about this time of year is free stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go on a long walk every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I often go by Trinity Bellwood's Park and I've recently been making sure I keep a drawstring bag in my pocket just in case because
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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep on getting given free stuff, I get given bags of Harry bow, I get given a chance of multiple kinds of celtzers of siders of like rom punch in a can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love free stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you love free stuff too, we give you guys a lot of free stuff as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the free feed right now released yesterday is the latest episode of what up dough with be Detroit and John Sino going through everything that they wanted to catch up on it in the last month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Sino just got the switch to, you'll be talking about on that show as well as their thoughts on wrestling, on this Sino run on hip hop beef, I'm assuming, and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not listened yet just because they released it yesterday, but I know it will be my first thing Monday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited for a nice bike ride and a what up dough and a nice stroll through the park, but I know that they'll be discussing hopefully I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lil Wayne's new album, which I know they have some thoughts on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's get into some of the wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll start with one of the biggest stories of the week, which came from SmackDown with John Cena's quote unquote pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I kind of said, we just recently revisited the original pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the first time I watched, I think I consider like just that run of like a few promos week to week, because he doesn't call it a pipe bomb until the week after the quote about
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[SPEAKER_01]: pipe bomb, like I think all of them are just the pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the original one, we're sitting down after our truth versus Sina, which coincidentally happens all over again here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a nice little touch to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it's crazy, because even after all these years, it's almost like a song or a rap verse where I almost like know word for word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those C.M.
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[SPEAKER_01]: punk promos from all those years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it, I think this was a great idea of having John Sina, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do is his weird alversion of it, his parody version of it, like mocking Sam punk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it instantly seeing the visual of scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just sitting up there with that shitty and grand-honest face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: trash talking CM Punk getting his revenge now that he's kind of the bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I give them, I give them in a plus on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, for the content that was actually said in the promo, I got some choice words for that, but what about you off the?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of felt the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I felt about majority of this scene around where I like the idea of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was something I very much like the idea of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: execution I didn't like so much I think I think yeah like there were things I I wouldn't say I hated this I thought it was a cool visual I I got a chuckle out of a couple of things said
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is the original pipe bomb pulls back the curtain so much, I think, root.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we were saying on champ is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it felt so taboo, some of the stuff you were saying in twenty eleven, which doesn't feel so much the case right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a big problem is if you wanted to do this properly, you'd have to
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd have to make sure that CM Punk isn't gonna, or Phil Brooks, I should say, isn't gonna blow up after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a big problem with it, is it didn't feel personal enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was, there was a few, like, elephant in the rooms when addressing CM Punk, whereas if you are gonna cut a pipe bomb on CM Punk, there's some very obvious stuff that you're gonna talk about, which wasn't addressed in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen punk blow up about things that have been said in pipe bomb-esque promos before concerning him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, so that was some of the stuff like the, I know the Claudio Maccard owner and Nick Nemeth line got people talking a lot of people speculating it's, you know, Matt Nick CC Slunkabanna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like so stuff like that's kind of smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I wanted a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also thought he got off to a bit of a rocky start because he kind of forgot how the pipe was made to start and sort of goes back on himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is like, like, it's one of the more interesting things he's done in this scene at Hill Run, but just still feels like a half baked, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I mean, like the idea to do the pipe bombs or seen as POV of his version, essentially, you know, seen as version like Taylor's version, but the execution like you said a whole lot of nothing, you said like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing in this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if people are necessarily reaching, but the Matt Nick and CC, like maybe those names were picked just to like, you know, so people do like pick Easter eggs in this and that, but I still think he could have said a whole lot more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He really didn't say anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same punk, your capitalist, your Mr. T.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he say I'm gonna break the fourth wall but really never breaks the fourth wall like again I like the visual scene of doing this I think it still maybe since like the actual turn the best
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[SPEAKER_01]: part of this heel run, but it's still not like good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, that's not saying a whole lot about this, this run, like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could have bought up, you know, one bill fill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, one bill fill is something that you can bring up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to piss off Phil Brooks, but I just, I just felt there was more, more me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess there's maybe still some stuff that's slightly off limits with CM Punk, because
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's he's been having a good time so far like there hasn't that been we haven't heard reports of prickly tension backstage or anything like that everything we still seem to be kind of in the honeymoon period maybe but I just felt he could have gone gone in deeper like even you know his WrestleMania main event
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't the main event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like stuff like that you could do to get over his skin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you still like, yeah, you made a vented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't for a title and it wasn't night two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who was that me once again, me because why I'm the greatest of all time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will always be better than seeing punk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you could have leaned into a bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it just didn't, he didn't say anything with that much substance when I was waiting for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you did this,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wait, you said a few people's names that aren't in the company anymore, but you really didn't say anything else other than you're calling him a fraud, which CM Punk has been calling you a fraud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this whole thing is just rushing to like, let's go to this match right away, which like, I think at many people were probably speculating that it's quite possibly the last match that you would go to have CM Punk being the hero to save
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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE in the universe from the evil franchise that says he's going to take the title away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like reversed, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's at Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's seen a sitting up on an on the term buckle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While CM Punk is selling his best fucking sell for in forever on top of the slim gym table, hyping up their match for Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What a hypocrite is the right word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Salo is definitely the right word, but he said it first day back in the company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not here to make friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's here to make money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what he was doing sitting there on the slim gym.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They probably paid a whole lot for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like there's so much more you could have you could have just had seen a rip into him about that and then you know I'm assuming we're recording the Sunday but I assume CM Punk's gonna have this huge promo on raw where he's gonna try to say maybe I am a hypocrite this and that and has to explain himself for going to Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think another problem I have with the whole thing is is
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[SPEAKER_00]: seen as playing a character and seeing punk is not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's where the first pipe bomb really lands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is seeing punk's pipe bomb is Phil Brooks getting a lot of stuff off his chest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where it doesn't work this way round as well, because John Cena is playing this heel character, getting stuff off his chest, but they're not, they don't feel like legitimate gripe seahads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And therefore, that's where I felt like a whole lot of nothing was said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delivery was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The little mirroring stuff said, I mean, wasn't sat on the stage, but sat on the turn back away at the camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but yeah, I just wanted it to dig a little deeper.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted it to be like, when I saw this, I wasn't watching SmackDown, but when I saw this on social media, I was like, oh, this looks like it could be great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This could be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to, I try not to like, see people's opinions on something before I watch it because, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: we like to give our opinions, and I like to form it before I look at other people's, I try to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I try to avoid going on social media, and all I saw was that scene of cuts pipe bomb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, I maybe I hyped it up too much in my head, but then like as I'm watching, I'm like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of the same WWE stuff I just don't like lately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't hit for me as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, but I felt like Cena just struck the names without any context.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at least when punk did it, he was like going, people that have been held back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Luke Gallows want no one ever remembers that, but that had me rolling my eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as I said, didn't hate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's better than just the you people turned on me and therefore I'm turning on you it was better than all that but just Wish it had a little bit more to it look this still like we were we were just discussing like the the pipe bomb CM punk Promo was I think something that brought a lot of people back to wrestling the lapsed fan would be like okay, let me check in on why is everyone talking about this and I think it helped
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[SPEAKER_01]: bring back the interest as I said I think on our show like it kind of sparked the reality era like he broke the fourth wall and now we know that there's he said new Japan he said ring of money said all these things it was kind of okay
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: For once it was not treating like the internet wrestling community as the niche and these like everyone else is a casual fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was going like you know what majority people who watch and follow this product are online are aware of other stuff going on and and I think that's where there was a bit of a shift as well and it was it was it was definitely punk being the catalyst of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's just like yeah like
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[SPEAKER_01]: he had so many things to say over the years about so many different things and then now he's kind of falling on his sword a little bit like I'm sure he's fine because he's laughing at the bank but you can't necessarily blame the guy like everyone like wrestled these soddy shows now right like sure it's just the fact that he was very outspoken he continues to be outspoken his name as punk in his name and it's he's quite far removed from what he kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: stood for I think just just seen the visual of Sina cutting a promo in twenty twenty five low punk is playing dead with the slim gym table to promote a match in Saudi Arabia is just like I'm the I don't even I have so much interest in entry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what it's what could Sina and punk quite possibly do again after all these years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a glimpse of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were there at elimination chamber.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like part of me you just wanted to go fuck that I'm not even gonna watch this show.
38:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I still think I still think it's gonna be seen as best match so far since coming back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never have that
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have that expectation that since since the return I do feel it's going to be his best match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not say it's going to reach the level of some of their previous matches, but I feel that punk in particular is smart enough where they can
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can work a bit of magic and recap to some of that chemistry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were saying on the channel to see it for me, seen a punk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the, everyone talked seen a red, seen a Randy like no to me, seen a punk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, the real rival, which has interesting segments, but also the matches just work when they're in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we get, I do still have curiosity about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then they'll rematch the match later this year on a Monday night raw and Sina will pile drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm pumped.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you're saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe they get the pile driver and Saudi, you know, you got to give the people what they want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've seen some pile drivers recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I just feel I feel ways like yeah, CM Punk, Sina that
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[SPEAKER_01]: should have been it could still could be like the summer slam mean event hit the last match ever it's the biggest match I guess the most money they're promoting it over in in Saudi saying this is the last time seen as wrestling here that's probably getting a lot of attention for that as they did when he they came here for Toronto as they did for every city with the different colored shirts and everything so I I get it because it's like hey we got to enjoy this while we can but I can't necessarily
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[SPEAKER_01]: say I've I've loved this this hill run and and again I think you said like I like the idea of him doing the pipe bombs awesome individuals great but it really had no had no soul had no soul in it because the rock took your soul John so that's definitely what happened
40:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering if this scene around maybe does come to an end in at SummerSlam.
40:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the advanced advancements in the King and Queen of the Ring tournament, Randy Orton defeating Sami Zayn in what I thought was a pretty fun match this week.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Sami is still being like, you know, he doesn't want to
40:35
[SPEAKER_00]: cheat, he wants to be honorable, and he will get that world heavyweight title one day.
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It isn't right now.
40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So Randy going into the final to face the winner of Juso and Cody Rhodes.
40:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Now for me, I
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see them doing jayu, so Gunther again.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I've already been done too much.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't see jay advancing.
41:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see them doing Randy Gunther or Randy Cena again.
41:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel Cody
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[SPEAKER_00]: makes the most sense at this point to win king of the ring and headline summer slam big stadium show again the rematch may be a stipulation this time Travis Scott in a shark page I don't know I got it Travis Scott comes out to once again screw Cody Rhodes but to everyone's shark
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: push a T comes out for the save and helps Cody defeat Travis Scott and John Cena just writes itself book it.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's Cody.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think we need to go back to that match.
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cody scene a match.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so bad.
41:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to see it one more time at Summerslam.
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it'll move.
41:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll move.
41:50
[SPEAKER_00]: tickets I think it'll have interest like that again it was a big match and it sucked so maybe they want to like do a redo on that I mean obviously seen as limitations is part of it but I think it was the overbooking as well why it sucked so much right so I think they'll they'll want to do a make good on that weather seen a you know we keep on saying seen a really has to end the year as a baby face
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So having him drop the title at SummerSlam could be a way to get there.
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It does kind of kill this story of I'm ruining wrestling and stuff.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think?
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they'll have scene or attain or do you think they'll move on from this scene a championship run?
42:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be pretty funny if Cody just wins a back and then goes on another run and then scene a what do you even do for his last match then?
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We go back to punk.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we go to the rock?
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we like?
42:45
[SPEAKER_01]: What would be his last match if we've already burned through Randy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Punk, Cody.
42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I don't think this would be a last match, but Ryan says, I like the idea of AJJ, so you know, like there's someone who had a big rivalry in the past.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I really love their matches.
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everyone wins if he wasn't injured, he'd have had one.
43:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I think at this point we're seeing we're doing the greatest hits and we're not necessarily seeing scene a comment put over anyone new.
43:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan suggesting Cody wins and then Seth catches in to like, yeah, we're getting his directions.
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're definitely getting a swirl of where we're going with like champions and shows and brands and stuff, especially if like Cena's this champion, he should lose it.
43:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Seth should cash in on who, like he's probably not catching it on Cena because that's like weird.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he cashed it on Cody, just winning it, you can go back to that feud for like the post SummerSlam season.
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I don't know where we'd go back to for WrestleMania, but Cena won't be in the picture for WrestleMania, right?
43:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So like,
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Where would we go for that?
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't go back to Cody and you guess you could do Seth and punk for WrestleMania because like we got the triple threat, but you could easily we've seen it enough and like it hasn't necessarily hit for me, but if we treat it maybe with a bigger stage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where we would go with that, but like night of champions with Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, no, I was going to say I would try to go punk and Cody for WrestleMania next year.
44:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest match you could do for WWE.
44:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest match.
44:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think the worry of doing Cody scene again at this point and especially if you're going to put the belt on Cody is Cody getting those booze.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're in New Jersey.
44:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Did they want to turn him heel at this point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it is a crowd that will be despite everything going on and booking wise.
44:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they will still be pro-seena over Cody.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And what could that damage Cody long term?
44:42
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not doing punk, what's the next best move for Cody?
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Because what if, like, for next year?
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: For WrestleMania.
44:50
[SPEAKER_01]: If CM Punk, let's say CM Punk is busy.
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Main eventing night one.
44:55
[SPEAKER_01]: With Stone Cold Steve Austin.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say that's just something.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It could happen potentially.
45:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the backup big match for Cody?
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Roman, again, like we've done that already.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Randy, maybe.
45:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Randy, it's not necessarily the best in ring match.
45:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's possible, but I think there's enough stuff you get.
45:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You get Randy turning heel again, bring the punt, and that could be something Randy realizing his times ticking down and wants to win that fifteen sixteenth championship, that kind of thing.
45:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's unless you're like really pushing someone to the moon, whether that's like a bronzer or a Jacob or two or something like that.
45:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of works better with Cody maybe is a heel if you're going to try to get there eventually.
45:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get there eventually.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cody heel runs going to be legendary for sure when that finally happens.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But the big WWE match is punk and Cody for sure when we go to that.
46:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if it's next year or not.
46:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So also the WWE have confirmed that Gunther vs Goldberg is going to be Goldberg's retirement match.
46:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They've confirmed that, obviously, retirements in wrestling, what they really mean.
46:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm, I'm buying that up as a possible cash in for Seth as well.
46:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you give Goldberg that win to kind of go happy and then a cash in to prove it?
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Who did Gunther piss off this year?
46:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's not giving back the belt, but like, if you're thinking Goldberg is going to beat him for Seth the cash in on Goldberg,
46:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird doing like, as limited as Goldberg seems at this point in his limited being an understatement.
46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it feels like don't think this is going to be a long match by any means.
46:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think he should be winning his final match.
47:03
[SPEAKER_00]: but you kind of feel it's a bit like, okay we're building up Goldberg's retirement match and then he loses to Gumther in five minutes, it feels a little underwhelming and you almost want him to have
47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a few matches like that Dolph Ziggler match at summer slap, where he's just killing people.
47:21
[SPEAKER_00]: To have a little fun Goldberg run, which is like, thirty seconds, spearjack hammer, spearjack hammer, spearjack hammer, and then goes out on his back to Gunther.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, two years away from the ring coming back and then losing in between commercial segments on Saturday night's main event just feels a little weird.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: At least as Matt will be sure enough where they don't need to go commercial.
47:45
[SPEAKER_01]: on Saturday night's main event because the every time they've come back since it's just like half the matches are I mean you could
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you could just have the if Seth does cash in.
47:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They could do it as the triple threat.
48:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you could have some sort of just car crash match and then Bronbrake just to get that spear on Goldberg.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Hit it and Seth.
48:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I have she's in.
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be, it would make sense now that you're saying that.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if Gunther word, so sorry Gunther, but you got to lose to Goldberg.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: and then Goldberg holds up the title, hopefully they get the hand them a big gold to make it look nicer, because that's the real Goldberg title belt, right?
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's when Seth comes in, and that's when you get breakers, spearing Goldberg, the visual of bronze, spearing Goldberg, and Seth pinning him and stealing the title.
48:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the good way to go about it, I guess.
48:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe spin off Gunther as a baby face, and you can have a bit of a Gunther
48:46
[SPEAKER_00]: feud, real little bit.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Guns that can go through Brombraco and you know, Braco is one of the few men that's actually beaten Guns through in WWE.
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You could go to that to build up and then eventually get to a Seth match.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, plus there's like the draft that's got to happen where like you might move Gunther eventually.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, to the feud with some other people and mix things up a little bit there and get some refreshing characters that we haven't seen necessarily, uh, fight it out and everything.
49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I can't say like,
49:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, WWE just feels so hot.
49:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like everyone who used to be a fan is now watching again.
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the people who never watch are kind of like, oh, okay, what's this?
49:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the content I'm when I watch is still not necessarily clicking for me.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think we just said like the scene stuff was like yeah, I do have it was great, but I didn't I still didn't I didn't feel anything from watch.
49:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Feel it's really being the after effects of WrestleMania.
49:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the the
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: the rumours which seem to be evident on TV of like differences of opinion with tripletion and dwayne where they're going like all that kind of stuff.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel we're still feeling the knock on effect of that and there's a lot of stuff in WWE right now where I'm thinking
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: on paper.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the look of some of it, but in execution maybe not so much.
50:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what it is?
50:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very honest.
50:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I watch both shows.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been very critical of AEW like the tail end of the year in the beginning of this year.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel now AEW is something that there's a lot of interesting things going on that are exciting me.
50:21
[SPEAKER_00]: WWE not quite as much right now and I hope there's I hope they pick it up a bit you know you've had some call-ups you've had some returns and this scene a thing and I like the unpredictability I love discussing being like you could go this direction this direction this direction but yeah I've been kind of I found it especially Smackdown just quite a struggle to watch at the moment
50:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I find a lot of the wrestling isn't necessarily hitting as much either.
50:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This year for WWE, I really liked the Chad Gable by King O'Mash.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably one of the best WWE matches of the year, but nothing necessarily I can't think of as hit.
51:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, WrestleMania had some good stuff, I guess.
51:06
[SPEAKER_00]: the women's trouble threat comes to mind on the best matches this year too.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Raw as well you often have some some pretty fun TV matches on Raw.
51:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see that so much on Smackdown, but there's normally like something fun with Stephanie Vicarre or something with Chad Gable or something that like in the undercard like really really hits.
51:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We, I just feel like since again, since Triple H taking over and WWE getting pretty popular right now, it's almost like they can coast on being like mediocre.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of what it is like.
51:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, since Triple H took over, it's kind of felt like that for me.
51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I'm saying, bring Vince back.
51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just, you know, like, let's get WWE back the way it should be.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
51:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look a bit more at night champions.
51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe at the Queen of the Ring side, we had Asca going over on SmackDown and will face the winner of
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Jade Cogill and Roxanne Perez.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar looking badass as per usual, Mr. and Miss that theme song.
52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Love that one.
52:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Underrated, one of the good, like WWE themes that you forget.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry.
52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a real song.
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is just a good tune, but classic song.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But I love seeing her back.
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she could, like, eventually, we got to keep EO and Oscar away from each other for a little bit.
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, that's what WrestleMania, Summer Slint, like, that's a big one that we just need to get to.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, remember, winner of this tournament does face the champion.
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
52:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So you should go there after Rio makes a whole lot of sense.
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd really like to see, I'd like to see Roxanne advance.
52:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can, you can protect Jade with having something to do with Naomi or, you know, judgment day, helping Roxanne win this match.
53:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Roxanne versus Asuka.
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: in the final sounds like a great match and I like it rocks and style would match her very well but yeah I go with asker for this I think askerio unless you wanted to do like
53:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Rocks and, I mean, Rocks and I owe all Rocks and Tiffany works, but I think Alaska for this one.
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, completely agree.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super pumped that she's back.
53:27
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a character.
53:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I've missed, and that's the match.
53:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I ask her for summer slam, hopefully that really hits, because I, the presentation so far has been cool.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, the image up of her with this stuff, but the theme back and everything, like, yeah, it's clicking.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that I am interested in right now.
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The women, like,
53:44
[SPEAKER_01]: the women that are killing it now are all the NXT crop that we've seen right so like now we're everyone's getting their eyes on eo and rea for the past few people like whoa finally and I think that's really clicking for me the women are super strong eo leading the chart being one of my favorite wrestlers of all time seeing her like
54:02
[SPEAKER_01]: get that.
54:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she had the run last year, but like, yeah, feels proper.
54:07
[SPEAKER_00]: This run feels the proper run.
54:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they're actually giving it the attention it deserves.
54:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we also had, uh, solo Sikowa versus Jacob Fattu confirmed for Night of Champions with the US title.
54:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm wondering if we see main event, Hicolayo show up to kind of cost parts.
54:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Main event in Hicolayo.
54:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I see what you did there.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh,
54:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: How many more kids do we teach you have?
54:35
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, this one the tongue jokes.
54:38
[SPEAKER_01]: This is.
54:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
54:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't watch this anymore.
54:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't make me watch this anymore.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Fatsoo, we need to get away.
54:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to end the bloodline two thousand.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever this is, move away from this.
54:54
[SPEAKER_01]: This hopefully is.
54:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You do need to do this match.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do the match.
55:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He retains and move away.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that means for solo and his nine cousins or brothers or friends who want to hang out in his bloodline group.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I saw J.C.
55:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Matteo wearing those shades in that promo, and I was done.
55:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I was completely done with the bloodline, so that's my honest opinion.
55:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that.
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, nope.
55:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not coming back from this.
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give some praise.
55:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think since Solo's moved away from just being this stoic like hard man and just embracing the goofiness and being more good here.
55:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a lot more entertaining.
55:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying in ring, but just as a character, I'm enjoying him a lot more than I did.
55:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's good having Jacob but two in this position.
55:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I'd say maybe move the title on to solo just so we can move Fatu on to bigger things.
55:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They teased that Bron break a match a few times like I don't know how you get there but Bron break a Jacob Fatu at SummerSlam could be awesome.
56:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a little one of those matches where you do we'll do this match now and then in two years time this could be a WrestleMania main event.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Or no, you don't have, like they tease the tension between the two of them.
56:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You should keep doing that and don't have them fight until it's like.
56:24
[SPEAKER_01]: something big because WWE don't ever really do the first time they burn it on a smackdown like they don't usually keep that they usually do the rematch of the rematch of the rematch.
56:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand what you're saying we do need to get that eventually but I think having them each on one side of the show where there you can see from a distance like they're the rising star and they're the ones that WWE's gonna focus on one day that will they will have to collide so
56:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like Fatu.
56:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We need something a bit more interesting.
56:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like I said, I'm a little bit the recycled bloodline stuff is not for me personally, but I want to see what else you can do once we get past this because I do think Fatu is great, but you're saying he should drop the US title.
57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't, like, I'm in two ways.
57:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you wanted to, uh, like, there is, I could see them potentially wanting to, uh, extend this to summer slam with like, gimmick match.
57:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
57:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So having, having solo win this through.
57:22
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, Hiccolayo joint joint in the group or whatever.
57:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's a long flight for a big man like that though.
57:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then doing this at SummerSlam with a stipulation.
57:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps where far too could retain it, but I'd like see far too move on to bigger things.
57:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that he's champion.
57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but if you keep the title on far too, I'd like him.
57:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see him bring back the, um,
57:46
[SPEAKER_00]: the open challenge, kind of gimmick.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And just have, just have some cool showcase matches on TV, bringing some random NXT talent, something like that.
57:56
[SPEAKER_00]: To play, to play chat talent once in a while, like just, I think he'd be a fun character for that.
58:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's so over right now.
58:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You have him come out to the ring, cut his three minute promo, getting his catchphrases in that everyone loves.
58:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And then who's the surprise opponent this week?
58:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that could really help build Fatu as well.
58:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, great idea.
58:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Open challenges, whether it's the U.S.
58:19
[SPEAKER_01]: North American title, it always works with people and especially because now W.O.V.
58:24
[SPEAKER_01]: dipping their toes with like.
58:26
[SPEAKER_01]: you said it like a triple A and TNA and stuff like why not kind of thing there.
58:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, anything else from WWE?
58:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've now got AJ Styles dominant in the stereo for the intercontinental championship scheduled for night of champions.
58:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there is the the talk as well of this is AJ's contract year.
58:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Now
58:52
[SPEAKER_00]: you might go and be with his friends from Ukraine.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.
58:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I am enjoying Dom at the moment, and I think this is actually kind of a fun little match you can put on the card.
59:05
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ can still go.
59:06
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the AJ of old, but he's still, he's shown a few times that when he needs to step up he can.
59:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this could just be a fun little match.
59:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But I probably keep the title on Dom.
59:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, like AJ worked so hard.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I was there as a fan in the trenches.
59:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We watched him do some awful stuff in TNA, but we also watched him do some great stuff.
59:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, getting to WWE, you felt like, oh, it was such a vindication for him of like, he finally made it to the big leagues.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been multi-time champion.
59:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned a few of John Cena epic stuff like he's done.
59:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a legend, bonafide Hall of Famer when he retires.
59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: People look up to him.
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think WWE season was like, hey, we're going to put you in a match to lose against Logan Paul.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we're going to put you in a match losing against our champion.
59:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's become kind of like a cane.
59:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, we're going to put you against because you know, you're kind of a strong ability because yeah, perform a champion, but yeah, he's using you to put his Jericho.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's what Jericho was doing.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, that's, and that's, and that's kind of fine.
1:00:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that like he'd want to be there for a life or he could be a coach, like he could be all sorts of different things.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But like the,
1:00:14
[SPEAKER_01]: the wrestling fan inside of me is like, dude, like, do one, do a dance, do one, two years where you're just wrestling people everywhere.
1:00:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, they'll probably have you back.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll probably put you in the Hall of Fame when you want, actually retire.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a few, like, obviously, people are thinking, go back to the Will Osprey match that they call them out pretty much saying, you know, doing that.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would love to just see him do a run where he gets to just wrestle some people.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's actually going to happen, but that's again, that's just the fan in me, the little devil on my shoulder being like, man, just do the do the one AJ match at a stadium show.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Do the one Kenny match, do an account of a card match again, do like a few different things, but I don't think he's in that.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's in his mindset.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's fine writing off into the sunset with WWE.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he wants to retire before he's fifty.
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's he's going to be like twenty nine two years left basically and
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's how hard how regularly does he want to go.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe he's happy like my exactly body.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hitting fifty my body's starting to break down.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I can make a whole lot of money.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't need to do so much to a few matches a year.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe there is that that itch to do the the one last run.
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he has it.
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's got that edge, personally.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he likes playing his Xbox in catering sometimes, because that's just the kind of guy he is.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's older now, he's a family guy.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he worked so hard to get to WWE.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he'd necessarily let that go away.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But the rest, like the other side of me is like, man, just do like one year, one year where you get to wrestle like everyone.
1:01:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And you make a shit ton of money.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you go back to WWE and retire.
1:01:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:01:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Just do, like that's just me being selfish.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_01]: please just do obviously the Osprey match but like there's so much more you can do because he he he was like a pretty you know he was a guy that inspired so many others and I I just see him retiring within WWE but this is again just me like hypothetically wow well look at all the the fun stuff proved yet again people were saying you're washed and they had the match with he had the match with Cody at backlash last year and it was really good then he got injured again
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he comes back and he loses to Logan Paul, you know, nothing match.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now he's booked against Dom, which I guess is some fun booking and we should get a good match out of it.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just like, ah, wow, AJ says he's retiring two years.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this the AJ we're getting?
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, fight off break at Wembley.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Coward.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, unfortunately, uh, then coming out of raw this week with Morgan, sustaining an injury against Kyrie Zane, uh, really like just
1:03:00
[SPEAKER_00]: like nothing move.
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a leg sweep essentially and she put her arms down to take a fall and just popped her arm out.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Reports are suggesting an injury like this could be minimum of three months, but more likely five to six months.
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_00]: really unfortunate timing like Liv has been a pretty heavy focus of WWE TV over the last couple of years and I think has really finally found herself character wise in ring improvements and that sort of thing.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And setting up a match potentially against Nikki Bella or the Bella's revolution.
1:03:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, in fact, it into a lot of programming.
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This women's tag title curse seems to
1:03:49
[SPEAKER_00]: continue where slew of injuries of people with these belts and and people being taken out and stuff.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But on like a positive side, I'd say they've already done like the groundwork for Roxanne and the judgment day, Raquel not trusting her.
1:04:10
[SPEAKER_00]: We've had WWE of set precedent of someone being injured, someone can step in to take the place.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering if we go that route and do Roxanne, Raquel against the Bella's evolution.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we'll see Liv Morgan still be on TV once in a while.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't have to wrestle but she's a big character that does do that stuff backstage quite a lot the time.
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's like there's still ways they can kind of get out of that.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But that aside like this sucks.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think she's been a really popular character.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say it's nothing that I've necessarily been loving the Dom Judgment Day stuff.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually couldn't really care about it, but you can't deny that she's been a character that people have.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_01]: People really like click with her and she's been, you know, they talked about how she was away, filming a movie and all this stuff.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So like she's become a big star for WWE and the rea stuff definitely
1:05:08
[SPEAKER_01]: like helped elevate her hell but hell elevate everyone really in this so uh obviously being from like the new jersey area that's a bummer for summer slam because you think she's a big kind of big draw of that as well but uh i'm sure when she comes back she'll be she'll be fine right like you'll go into the stuff with Roxanne you'll go into more of the judgment day and and this and that the only thing i don't like is the Roxanne's just
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_01]: another judgment day like vortex kind of thing we're like we've watched rocks and we're like wow like this
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_00]: she's great and instead she's just like yeah we're team with Raquel and being the judge it's like oh okay honestly though I I prefer that than her coming up with absolutely no direction like she's featured every week it's it's helping her improve the heal character that I think she's yeah she home quite nicely in NXT so I I do like if you're not gonna have her come up and
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_00]: be a champion right away or whatever.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd much rather something like this that over time we saw how much it helped live being in this group like it.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the judgment day has gone way past it's like expiry date but they're do seem to be people still into it and people know who rocks and Perez is now where I think there's other call ups in the past where you just like who are this person's a shadow of their former self or whatever.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah no you're right like at least she's being featured and eventually she'll be a champion for sure but it it'll come i guess but i hope live uh heels up sooner than later
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And while some of the women's division Julia against Zalina Vega is being set up for the women's US title, do you see them strapping up Julia with this?
1:06:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:06:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they should.
1:06:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool that Zalina got it.
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a nice little touch.
1:06:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The US stuff.
1:07:00
[SPEAKER_01]: She's been very vocal about US champion and the meaning and all that stuff.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's cool that she got her moment and everything.
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Forever we'll go down as a champion, but I think we'll be cool if we got this on Julia and get a bit of a run there.
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Do the open challenge with her too.
1:07:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck it.
1:07:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Julia, someone who I think of all the call-ups is the one struggling a little right now.
1:07:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's necessarily found a character or personality and maybe something like A, as you said, like a open challenge would work for her as well, just get, get over on the rest.
1:07:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Or as a heal, right?
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, as she kind of leaning into this, she should just absolutely be crushed.
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_01]: she's been like teetering on the edge of a hill so yeah since annex tea right like it it hasn't it doesn't feel full hill yet but uh but like my brain is like you're telling me Zelina Vega versus Julia like what's that mask gonna look like she she yeah she would kill her she should she should she should destroy it yeah absolutely like there should not be a fight a struggle
1:08:07
[SPEAKER_01]: in that fight.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, no disrespect.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great that she got this US title run to begin with, but I do think this would really help Julia if we went forward of showing that she could be a bit of a killer, I think.
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So, more of the Julia we saw versus Jordan Grace like a few weeks ago before she made roster.
1:08:24
[SPEAKER_01]: More of that.
1:08:27
[SPEAKER_00]: from a mill this week is, there's talk of adding new members to the, as a lot of people are dubbing the Seth Raiders, Seth Rollins group.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And some names being talked around are two names currently in a feud, quite a long-term feud in NXT of Ricky Saints and Ethan Page.
1:08:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Those two would be good.
1:08:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we even talked about that recently just because like there are two heels and good talkers and like they already are main roster ready.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really necessarily need NXT, but I don't know.
1:09:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know necessarily if Seth's group needs that or if they need that either because like there are all being a bunch of heels and and baddies.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also like
1:09:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Seth thing is working.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there's like the chemistry there with Paul Hayman and Seth wrong as much as like I was the one batting for months of like, hey, they should be together in this net.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily that good to be honest.
1:09:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not hitting for me.
1:09:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Seth is already like kind of
1:09:35
[SPEAKER_01]: country and I say that word because that's what his character's been he's been laughing all it manically and dressing all weird and he's being country and now he's got like the biggest kind in wrestling Paul Hayman and somehow it's like something's not clicking necessarily for me and there's a puzzle piece missing so maybe it is someone else that should be part of the group I'm not sure am I alone on this
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think something is missing.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think as call as a visual from Breaker with Paul Hayman, it's, and I wouldn't mind that.
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the better pairing.
1:10:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the better pairing.
1:10:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't mind that just being an act on its own.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think Brown is losing something in this group.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see him wearing the suit and the shades and just looking just like Thompson Reed.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think having
1:10:21
[SPEAKER_00]: too heavy he's kind of diminishes it and I'd like to see Bron get out of this group pretty quickly and have a baby face run because the crowd love him and I think
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd pick Ricky Saints.
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't necessarily put both of these guys in the group.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
1:10:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Ricky works because you could kind of see him as a little bit of a younger Seth Rollins in a way.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I buy that.
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They both, you know, they both had the fashion.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_00]: They both run their mouths.
1:10:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I think you could build up Saints in a quite effective way.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And therefore then everyone seems a little different.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Saints, Bronson, Reed and Seth Rollins.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_00]: are all very different rather than two generic big men behind Seth.
1:11:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but it would be weird if they bought them both up considering that they're they are feuding right now and WWE have been a lot better of, you know, we realize our fans remember what happens and they watch NXT as well as main roster.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll not really know because look at how Roxanne and Julia were bright in.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They were feuding.
1:11:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, they're a team now.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_00]: They've fused it a while before that though, the two months and they did address it on TV.
1:11:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, hey, I know we've we've had our differences, but this is an opportunity to go up or whatever.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think from that didn't crush it didn't crush to the Lero.
1:11:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's still chair, you know?
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think Braun and Hamon is definitely the better pairing.
1:11:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just something about Seth.
1:11:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Seth doesn't need Hamon really.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_01]: If if he has him in like he should be champion very he probably will be so like once he's champion then it makes sense why did you hire this this stooge manager is to be the best to be number one to be the champion so
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get to that and then maybe the thing will feel a bit more complete.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Seth has two hired guns.
1:12:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually, we're going to go to Braun versus Seth, I guess, right?
1:12:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where Braun would get the rub in the shine.
1:12:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that's where maybe Hayman sides with Braun.
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead of necessarily turning heel, it's turning baby face because he's joining with Braun, who's getting a whole lot over.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is the videos I've been seeing
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_01]: of the promos being edited to brown breaker randomly barking like a dog, but people are editing and adding in the ding-dong.
1:12:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So every time you barks, it's like the doorbell rings and anyone who's got a dog or watches Brian from family guy.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I test to the doorbell dog barking thing?
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's pretty funny.
1:12:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But brown is the star in the waiting and the wings to be going.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's the Seth group.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, okay, it feels on the little like,
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_01]: be league, whereas Roman with Hayman feels like a, you know, star level thing.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The set things like, oh no, it's still, it's still like,
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Seth just isn't as good as some of the other like marquee like Seth is a way better wrestler than Roman Reigns and I would prefer watching a Seth match every day over a Roman match, but there's something that the star power in the last few five years easily were Roman has gone up to that we're see see I'm punk coming right in to that slots John Cena fitting right into that like Seth always still feels a bit like a
1:13:37
[SPEAKER_00]: a B player in every Cody, A plus player, but Seth, I think if you, if you need it to work, I'd like to see more actual interactions, conversations between Seth and Hayman, not just one student from the other talking and then step in back in the other person talking.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think we had, that's where you built a lot of the Roman, actually Roman's relationships with,
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_00]: all the bloodline.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's those backstage and the dressing room.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It was talking.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the the looks of like considering what the other person said and like the mistrust and that kind of thing is what worked.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas we've really just seen these guys.
1:14:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They stand in the ring and they take their turns and saying a little thing.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They were glasses, which they're better glasses and shades than they're better than J.C.
1:14:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Matteo.
1:14:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So, there's that.
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
1:14:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, Braun Breaker versus Seth will eventually be the big feud coming out of this, eventually.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that'll work to get Braun over it.
1:14:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that'll just be an organic, like the crowd will take to him.
1:14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: The dude spears people out of their boots every week.
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's working.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone in the chat Ryan, the chat saying, he's basically the Batista.
1:14:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, he's the guy who's the muscle.
1:14:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That the crowd will eventually like really get behind, I think.
1:14:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
1:14:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's also been some Vince McMahon rumours.
1:14:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's coming back.
1:14:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Come in mainly from Gob Shite, Jonathan Coachman, who just seems to keep on talking absolute nonsense.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to bet try and get attention.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, suggesting that TKO may be on as happy with how WWE have been recently and that potentially Vince McMahon with some Saudi backers could be buying WWE back.
1:15:26
[SPEAKER_00]: This has pretty much been debunked by a lot of people, but it's worth mentioning.
1:15:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see this happening at all, especially whilst there's lawsuits still going on.
1:15:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Vince McMahon coming in to own the company at this age with no real succession plan, either, just like, I really don't buy this at all when I don't really buy anything.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Coachman sets.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't necessarily buy it.
1:15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, maybe there's some smoke to TKO actually being like, ah, we're fine with just UFC sure.
1:16:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We could, we could entertain if that's a thing, but I could not imagine it being back to Vince McMahon in any way, shape or along with
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: again not only is age but like all the stuff surrounding like Vince please fuck off just go live on an island until you die kind of thing like no one really wants to see you back in investing sure you made it you made it popular a long time ago like let's
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's back back check.
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_01]: There's I've seen other dirt sheets and all this stuff.
1:16:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's getting involved in other things like a bare knuckle boxing.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that's not the case.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll take over Slapfight from Dana.
1:16:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's gonna go to his, uh, what is it?
1:16:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Fourteenth.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, if that's gone.
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that just go away.
1:16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, unless, unless you got a, uh, a journal full of like, uh, well, he's probably got journals full of lots of bad stuff.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe a journal of like playbooks of stuff you could get to triple H to, you know,
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_01]: get things going again, but other than that, fuck up, Vince McMahon, no one wants to see you, they're like, come on.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way that they would go back to that.
1:17:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But Coachman saying, Brian James gave him that information.
1:17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, fuck.
1:17:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Roaddog.
1:17:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we already know, Roaddog writes bad stories.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, just telling another bad one.
1:17:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, get your information from the roadie.
1:17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a funny.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: The last thing I guess about WWE, sorry to cut you off there, but me, I know we're going to say this anyways, is the stuff about how night of champions is in Saudi Arabia.
1:17:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a lot of stuff going on in the world.
1:17:37
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not so much peace in the Middle East, and I'm seeing some people online speculating this stuff
1:17:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That has happened obviously with WWE in the past.
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_01]: The plane ride that was stuck on the tarmac for a while that we don't really know anything a whole lot about at this point.
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe people are worried about traveling over to Saudi Arabia in these trying times.
1:18:00
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff with America and Iran and all sorts of stuff.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a chance that they move this show?
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a chance that this is safe?
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume that
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE TKO billion dollar plus company would make safe protocols and everything to make sure that this show still goes on but in like a safe kind of thing where the the stars are flown back pretty quickly but they also have a Smackdown there as well yeah like it's it's pretty every times with the U.S.
1:18:37
[SPEAKER_00]: bombing Iran yes yeah and I haven't
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't really had chance to look too much into it, but it's, you know, questions of whether this was even legal under international law and I believe Trump gave him like sixty days or something to sort it out and then was just like, it's just two weeks.
1:18:57
[SPEAKER_01]: His thing is always two weeks.
1:18:59
[SPEAKER_00]: two weeks and then hit the button and then that tweet is just fucking insane like we've just successfully bombed three nuclear bases now it's time for peace like I don't see that being the way and I think things are only gonna get
1:19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: escalate and get worse.
1:19:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So I could understand talent.
1:19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, there aren't many people booked for night of champions, but there is the SmackDown just before it.
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, honestly, I'm like, after yesterday, I'm feeling wary about going to the States right now.
1:19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got our trip in a couple of weeks, but it's starting to get very real everything going on.
1:19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that maybe undermines some of the
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: tragedies that have been happening elsewhere in the world, but it's it's getting very close to home now.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I wonder like we've seen before with the, uh, Jamal Kashogi murder, um, how they,
1:19:57
[SPEAKER_00]: they still went ahead after that and did the show.
1:20:00
[SPEAKER_00]: With this being US very heavily involved now and potentially escalating to fall on war, is it going to give people second thoughts in making that journey?
1:20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because you're going to see like different, you know, there are Americans traveling.
1:20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be like maybe some restrictions and all that kind of stuff.
1:20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely going to be some some fear in some of these, these are performers.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: These people are doing stuff for iron entertainment and they're, they've been through what stuff that people are speculating that other plain stuff and now this, like it's, it's,
1:20:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, crazy crazy times.
1:20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully this show goes on without a hitch and everything is is a okay.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see them canceling it can't see them moving this show.
1:20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the this is the last show.
1:20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, way too much.
1:20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't care.
1:20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really care.
1:20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk's got to get paid.
1:20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to make sure this show goes on.
1:20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Cena CM Punk won last time for the most money ever.
1:21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And other news, Hulk Hogan did not die this week.
1:21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so what else do we do on this?
1:21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this stuff, but he once again, politics is way into a two point nine count.
1:21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, that sounds bad.
1:21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But the other day, I was out in this guy was wearing a Hulk Amane shirt.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, does he know?
1:21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he just not care?
1:21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a white guy, so.
1:21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But like brand new, all-companious.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like not a beaten up one.
1:21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, had the WWE stitch tag on it.
1:21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, had the maga label.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The red hat to match.
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, showing move over to some AEW grand slam Mexico.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking off the top.
1:21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about how sometimes we like things in life, entertainment, especially that can help you escape.
1:22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you something.
1:22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not Mexican.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't speak Spanish.
1:22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: A little Portuguese.
1:22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more like a deaf Spanish.
1:22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people would say, but I can't speak Spanish, but I'll tell you that me, whereo, by La Five as de Cial, made me feel something.
1:22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: A wrestler's entrance this week.
1:22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: just made me feel something and that's all I can ask when watching a wrestling show uh... because the mystical entrance from a w grand slam put the biggest smile on my face again i can't i don't even understand
1:22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: that what that really meant, but it meant something to me just watching this entrance on Wednesday night, eight of you grand slam, Mexico.
1:22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Mystico coming out to this song, which now has been easily one of my top played songs on my Spotify.
1:23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to learn the lyrics because we might need to learn the lyrics for a few weeks.
1:23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.
1:23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: easily the best entrance so far of twenty twenty five mystical in arena Mexico coming out to uh... what's the song meme whereo which uh... brilliant beautiful again didn't really understand the lyrics i'm learning all this stuff about this long now and why i know the music video and all this stuff would recommend you searching it and checking it out but wow that alone was like wait this guy was sincara
1:23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought watching this was, you know, when he came into WWE as Sincara, it was like, this is the biggest guy in Mexico.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got comic books made about him.
1:23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows who Miss Coves Sincara is.
1:23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And then his WWE run was like, oh, and he, he very quickly, who in a co-turn into Sincara, he disappeared.
1:24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And even when,
1:24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been on AEW, like I've not, it's just, it's just, oh, it's mystical.
1:24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently he's a big deal.
1:24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everyone always says, oh, he's huge, he's huge.
1:24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just mystical comes out.
1:24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the first time I was like, oh, okay, I see it.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I, they fucking love this guy.
1:24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And the entrance, the song, there were people crying in the crowd.
1:24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought just a,
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: a great angle with mjf like the match was pretty fun and the the whole removing of the mask like they've got to keep with this they've got to do have us his mask at all in right i'll tell you right now i'm gonna learn the lyrics to this song i've already played it like ten thousand time you know me and my ADHD when i like a song i play it like million times in two days and i'll get sick of it but so if i i've been listening watching this music video looking up videos like they've aired the
1:24:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole entrance, Tony Con buying the rights to have it play on Dynamite.
1:25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty awesome.
1:25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The band itself now has come out and said, like, was so happy that he got to do this entrance.
1:25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they support above this.
1:25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess they got the bag for the song.
1:25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like, look, check this out.
1:25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone's like, I didn't know about this until this music hit.
1:25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And they keep referencing that arena Mexico might quite possibly be the cathedral of professional wrestling.
1:25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Does this not make this guy,
1:25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus in here like this is Mexican Jesus as far as I'm concerned this guy was the Mexican Pope coming out here having all these people in the Serena singing this song again I had no idea but I felt this I if it hit me I was like whoa this is like all these people are
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: cheering and singing along for this guy and crying and everything.
1:25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I felt it and I absolutely loved it.
1:25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, if we go to MJF, Mystico, Mass versus Air, that's one of the most hyped matches on the cars instantly for me.
1:26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, simply because I need to see there's a big, you know,
1:26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fast-feeding population.
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they show up and we're gonna be singing if that's the case because that is an awesome match.
1:26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it now.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Sincara.
1:26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
1:26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I owe you an apology.
1:26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I really wasn't familiar with your game.
1:26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand.
1:26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because I feel as well for like
1:26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: A.W.
1:26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: fans who maybe haven't been won over by Mystical.
1:26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been on A.W.
1:26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: TV enough that we know who he is.
1:26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just think the the the idea of MJF losing his hair.
1:26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Alone despite who the opponent is is enough of a draw for other people.
1:26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it works in multiple ways.
1:26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And I could totally see MJF having his head shaved well airing the.
1:26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He's ball wrestling head gear and stuff like that.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, he's in a hurt business.
1:26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all.
1:26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're all balls.
1:26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see Mystico losing the mask, but like MJF maybe he's gonna have another trip to Turkey.
1:27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not quite sure, but like him shaving, being in the group with all the ball.
1:27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, this is this match has to happen.
1:27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's for where we're going to Sunday, Sunday, June, twenty second.
1:27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to announce this match.
1:27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I am so into this.
1:27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to explain it, but right away, I'm like, I love the match.
1:27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the finish with him taking the mask on after the match and like the shock.
1:27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: in horror of these people in arena maxco that mjf did this like the the story i'm thinking it was fight full reporting that mjf like had to have security was pretty much almost attacked almost like jdl style with the editor era few back in the two thousand's like this is it this is awesome i have heard people a lot of our listeners and viewers tell tell us like oh mystical such a big deal down here you don't understand like
1:27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I finally saw it.
1:27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, Mr. Co was sin car with the stupid lights and the stupid enum music, not that enus bad.
1:27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I think of him breaking his finger in the match.
1:28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think of who Nicole taking over the character.
1:28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just what it was to me.
1:28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really anything.
1:28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't until I watched the, we've talked about it on our best match ever.
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Triple mania.
1:28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a triple mania watch many years ago.
1:28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It got together.
1:28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Paul who was like, oh, I'm gonna watch this before we did a lot.
1:28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, I'll watch with you.
1:28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Ray Mysterio versus Miss Co.
1:28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was awesome.
1:28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It was really fun.
1:28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And we mean you recently talked about it.
1:28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were like, hey, you know what, this guy was pretty good.
1:28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I can see why people down there like take to him.
1:28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But now watching this entrance
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: all these years later I'm like holy shit have we just been missing out on like this guy is actually lit and WWE made him shit to me and again uh... sincerely apologize i was not familiar with your game but now i'm in my number one song at twenty five is gonna be
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Moomuera, Nemuera, and Nemuera, got to say it, right?
1:28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna learn a lyrics for all in.
1:28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that matches announced.
1:28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That is an awesome match if they were to announce it.
1:29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought MJF was on top of his game with this.
1:29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like honestly, what else would MJF do at this point?
1:29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, no.
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Way too soon to come from the Hertz Indica, and unless you're doing some sort of
1:29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: six man tag, but I think this is way way more interesting and just just right with it.
1:29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got you got also like you got to watch the music video for this song like he's in the music video from it.
1:29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
1:29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The song is catchy.
1:29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: My Spotify algorithm is now just playing all this like Spanish music yesterday and I'm in.
1:29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this so much.
1:29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So I really want to see this match out where
1:29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Canadian, but we're going to be in Mystico's corner in Texas because I really want to see this match now.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Mask versus hair because either way that goes, you can't see him losing that mask and I honestly can't say, I'll see MJF loses hair.
1:29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope that is the match we get announced because who would have thought that I'd be that hyped into this, but I did a really good job.
1:30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We also had an awesome opening promo from Hangman Page during the entire six minute promo in Spanish.
1:30:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was great.
1:30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was awesome.
1:30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, dude's flawless Spanish and then explains that, you know, he grew up working.
1:30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He says in the promo, I watch some of the stuff, you know, Shadow X, Excalibur, right, who was talking about, quickly trying to, you know, translate.
1:30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this is so good.
1:30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And did you recognize the shirt?
1:30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He was worried.
1:30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He once wore this shirt when he was championed.
1:30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's letting us know that, hey, I might re recycle some of these shirts in my closet from when I was the fucking man.
1:30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we see that mean something too, but I love this.
1:30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: This is your guy.
1:30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the guy who should be world champion.
1:30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think
1:30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: more more now than ever.
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think a lot of people are really hyped about the AAA WWE expansion if you want to use that word.
1:31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the right thing.
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a lot of other people who are like, man, you can't just buy us.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't buy Lucha Libre.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: you know take over and I think having hangman who is a white ass American cowboy gimmick come out here full on flawless Spanish saying hey we see you we love you thank you for having us in your house.
1:31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was really special.
1:31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was really nice.
1:31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.
1:31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian sang it.
1:31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: A. W. Posted the whole promo with uh... yeah as well now.
1:31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But like I find but whenever I hear people speak in another language on these shows
1:31:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't necessarily need to know what they're saying.
1:31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I can, I can, I can piece it together from like their toe from the the audience reaction to what they're saying.
1:31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I love it.
1:31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, I think it's great.
1:31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's also in a way, it's a way of like just hangman building.
1:32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: all these friends and fans support around him going in against moxley and build some of this momentum.
1:32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll just go and speak Spanish and Mexico will love me now and make I've got Mexico's back against the biggest match in my career and that kind of stuff.
1:32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I I really liked it and I liked like I enjoyed the world's collides show I enjoyed this show as well.
1:32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they
1:32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: those completely different presentations.
1:32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I said on the AAA show was I wish they did a bit more lucha rules with the tags and explaining that you don't have to tag and stuff like that.
1:32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought even though this show
1:32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess the missed goes in MJF.
1:32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't really have a marquee match.
1:32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot of multi-man, but it gave you a real flavor of just that chaoticness that you get in these lucha tag matches.
1:32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really appreciate it.
1:32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think AEW has been better recently because they're not trying to be WWE.
1:33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they went through this whole patch and maybe punk had some doing with that, but trying to make it WWE, we had those awful
1:33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: MJF Adam Cole devil segments that just felt so WWE and you should be playing to different tastes.
1:33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't necessarily be trying to get a WWE audience.
1:33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You should try to get your audience and it'll take time and maybe it's not going to be
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: huge ratings right away but we've seen that there are very stable company at the moment and I think you know I I enjoy watching raw and SmackDown or whatever from my sports entertainment and I enjoy tuning in on Wednesdays to Dynamite for my pro wrestling and yeah if they continue in that direction and
1:33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: like the tribalism just balls me to tears because it's always comparing once the other and I'm like they're different, they're different, you're comparing horror movies to romcons.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it feels and that's how it should be, rather than AEW just trying to catch some WWE fans attention by bringing in a name from over there or doing some goofy bad storytelling.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I mean, I think they want to bring new audio.
1:34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to bring some of those WWE fans over, right?
1:34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's obviously an MMO that they're going to continue to have.
1:34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But when they focus on being what makes them popular, what makes them unique, and what makes them AW, like, this is one of my favorite dynamite episodes ever.
1:34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this felt like a mini paper view.
1:34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I enjoyed this more than I enjoyed.
1:34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: world's collide and I enjoyed world's collide don't get me wrong but this felt like actual like didn't feel what it was that we're not going to Americanize it right on and said like this is what they didn't it didn't feel Americanized it felt like this was a show that they're showing us what it was I wonder if I'd say
1:35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say CMLL and Triple A have different flavors as well.
1:35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say Triple A does feel more WWE than CMLL.
1:35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: A CMLL does feel more WWE.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
1:35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this felt very
1:35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: unique, it felt very organic, having them do this crossover.
1:35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, AW has done a lot of stuff with AAA in the past and CMLL in the past few years.
1:35:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the stuff with WWE and World's Collide, it feels like Luches hot right now.
1:35:28
[SPEAKER_01]: As it very well should be, and it's cool to see that we're getting a lot more representation.
1:35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think having a dynamite here was just the first step.
1:35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to do a paper view down here.
1:35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been saying WWE has announced
1:35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: some shows, right?
1:35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily.
1:35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Feel like they're house shows, right?
1:35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's in July and I don't get the sense, July or August.
1:35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the sense they're going to be more like a little house show loop that they do.
1:35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I really thought this grand slam, Mexico show was just, yeah, a fun snapshot of some good wrestling.
1:35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And the mixture of the CMLL people involved and everything.
1:36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But having Hangman come out, I didn't realize he was that fluent in Spanish as he explained in his story.
1:36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But basically promoting that, I'm the good guy ending with, yeah, we got to get this title off of the Death Riders and Moxley and the crowd being like, yeah, but the crowd seemed really happy to be there.
1:36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that motherfucker.
1:36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
1:36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It just seemed authentic.
1:36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed more authentic.
1:36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And I loved, you say, like, AW is where you get the wrestling.
1:36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely do feel like I like the wrestling.
1:36:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a lot of that really loved the Mystico MJF stuff.
1:36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Really loved the Hangman.
1:36:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Stokely?
1:36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Stokely who came out?
1:36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it was cash.
1:36:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't get across the border.
1:36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:36:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The grassy ass comment.
1:36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of the wrestlers in there, like all the wrestling hit, it was really fun.
1:36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: fun show.
1:36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I know I'm jumping all over the place.
1:36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But what else from from Dio Mike?
1:36:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we have Mercedes winning the the CMLL women's championship adding to her belt collection and then Tony attacking her.
1:37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very, the belt collecting continues for Mercedes.
1:37:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I've really enjoyed the second half of a run.
1:37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I think towards the end of last year, it was really clicking and it really is clicking for me now.
1:37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Tony Mercedes really will be the big match.
1:37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They're promoting it really well.
1:37:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved Tony.
1:37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Where in the world is Tony Storm essentially?
1:37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: with the the all red and and all that kind of stuff I've been really into this but yeah eventually she's got to lose all these titles Mercedes she's got to like she's got all of them like tell like Kenny did I wonder if you have
1:37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: you either have Tony Windis like really establishing herself and that's built to this big first loss of Mercedes or you you think further down and you have Mercedes complete the collection winning the the AEW championship and then you could build to maybe
1:38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: further down the line, worlds end even at the end of the year or something like that where Tony maybe Mercedes can keep on putting off Tony from the match and then eventually do the rematch down the line.
1:38:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess similar to what you did with Tony and Mariah, but I'm looking forward to that match and I can't really see it going either way which makes me interested in it.
1:38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think I think that's the biggest match you could go.
1:38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mercedes will win.
1:38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she should win.
1:38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And then down the line, you could easily rematch that.
1:38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Both are two of the hottest characters.
1:38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mercedes is belt collecting thing.
1:38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is working and getting the heat and Tony's just still killing it.
1:38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched some of the collision stuff in her promo was really funny as well.
1:38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But what did she say in this dynamite thing?
1:38:48
[SPEAKER_01]: deep deep throat the Tabasco deep throat the Tabasco baby how's like Jesus Christ yeah great great stuff what else from dynamite for you I think just like some f*** is I don't really have many I thought they
1:39:05
[SPEAKER_00]: for the most part, kind of just put a pause on the build tool in, which is fine because I think they've actually this year done the legwork and we see all the main stories are kind of ticking along quite nicely.
1:39:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't mind having that, like obviously you had a hangman promo, you had Mercedes, Tony stuff, and potentially if they go in that way with MJF, Mystico.
1:39:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just enjoyed it for just that the atmosphere was awesome.
1:39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, okay.
1:39:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was pretty fun as well.
1:39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like obviously the history with Ocada who had wrestled in Mexico in the past and and everything like that was a cool little tie in there.
1:39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a fun match.
1:39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That was maybe the one thing that's keeping this was the story.
1:39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This was like pretty much wrestling other than the like the promo from Hangman off the top.
1:39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like just wrestling for the rest of the show, which again, kind of felt like a faster pace.
1:40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: almost mini paperview kind of thing but love that venue they gotta go back there like they treat it like I want to go that's bucket list for me have never been to uh a luchas show down in Mexico and Mexico City Mexican arena Mexico looks like the place to be like I want to go I need to sing along to that mystical song I need to be part of that that is a draw uh I think for that do we do we get one in uh corporate hall one day
1:40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: we do a dynamite in cork and hall, they do the same, some other thing where you like Kenny starts talking and Japanese to open the show and maybe, thanks for letting us into your house.
1:40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool.
1:40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I love seeing all the representation of wrestling all over the world.
1:40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, this show inspired me to check out the other shows from Arena Mexico this week, the CML Fantastica, Mania,
1:40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: like would totally recommend some of the matches that I watched specifically.
1:41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the main one?
1:41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito versus Mascara Dorado.
1:41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Dismatch was terrible.
1:41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I keep on hearing about that one so that's definitely one I'd like to check out.
1:41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: it was from the Tuesday the Tuesday show was was awesome because that was if I'm not mistaken was the main event bandito and Dorado and this this was like one of the craziest luchia like one on one versus one but on the same show was hologram versus neon which was also insane luchia stuff and then I was just before recording was skimming through the the other show from the other CMLL so I guess from just a few days ago and
1:41:41
[SPEAKER_01]: and like similar things, but some of the loot just stuff on it was pretty crazy, but I'm pretty blown away by the mascara Dorado.
1:41:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty blown away by the neon dude, like he was doing some, he's the guy who does the running, like double jump until like a flying moon salt and this like step up, dragon, rana, type thing.
1:42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, this, this blew me away.
1:42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if, if Grand Slant Mexico gave you a little like, ooh, this is pretty cool.
1:42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: CMLL doesn't have like a streaming or English commentator yet but after some of the success you would wonder if maybe going forward they would try to dabble in that because there might be some people like myself was like oh I would check out some of these guys so
1:42:26
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe that's like the next steps for those guys, but I think doing some stuff with AWS, the right stuff.
1:42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So honestly, I'm seeing in the praises of what I was watching the last few days, I told you I was, what wrestling can I watch this week to escape and keep hearing some good things about Bandito and Dorado?
1:42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't inspire me to go watch it.
1:42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that I did because there was also like a
1:42:47
[SPEAKER_01]: a lucha pirate there was like this one lucha dude wearing like a Halloween mask when you got a little bit of the like silly lucha craziness but then there was some really awesome stuff and I think for all three shows the crowd were just so into it and they were eating it all up so it reminds you that like
1:43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The there's wrestling out there to seek like whether it's Japanese pro wrestling Mexican there's not just not just WWE there's so much other stuff that you can sync your teeth into so I would definitely recommend watching a fantastic a mania one hundred percent Brian Danielson has also been in the news this week he's he's been
1:43:23
[SPEAKER_00]: saying, and don't know whether to believe him or not, but he's been saying that potentially he won't be able to wrestle again.
1:43:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he shows up on Ring of War of the Worlds to save his idol in Blue Panther, hitting the Blue Psychonee, which does involve some water over the back bump.
1:43:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, so
1:43:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Danielson, a little tease here.
1:43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I do see him.
1:43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I do see him being in the Avengers assemble for now.
1:43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
1:43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: All in Texas.
1:43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
1:43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: When you have the, the, the entrances and the run outs, the boards of final countdown.
1:44:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:44:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:44:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:44:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You just, you just hear Brian Anderson's going to come out and help.
1:44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, when the title from Marks.
1:44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
1:44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think could be involved as well.
1:44:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But plastic bag over you to his head.
1:44:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You know.
1:44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: that would be the good revenge spot like right like that's from my bag you put a bag over my head you you do the final count down you've got the death riders stood looking at the the huge ramp and Danielson hops over the barricade with the plastic bag murders you to and then the rest come out like I yeah I do think we're happening it's happening where's it I mean
1:44:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've seen he can hit a move.
1:44:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's whether he's gonna be in the ring for an actual match anytime soon.
1:44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll get physical at all in.
1:44:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He will definitely show up at all in in that matchup.
1:44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty much saying I'm gonna be at all in.
1:44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna be wrestling, but I'm gonna be there.
1:44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would imagine he's got something to say and something to do in that mockery match.
1:45:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But very cool to see him save Blue Panther there.
1:45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like the after
1:45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: credit's essentially like showing you that hey he's still in the AEW world and yeah I've missed him so it brought a smile to thinking oh he's going to show up in all in his knees so hopefully or just maybe he can wrestle big boom AJ versus Brian Danielson
1:45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: the pre show match book it very easy and there yeah was was really happy I know you're a big dangles in fantu so hopefully leads to one more match minimum one more match in a w
1:45:41
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i didn't catch much of collision but you did tell me to watch the dawn calis ocada segment where ocada is officially now a member of the dawn calis family and we had a bit of a return with kota i bushi coming back uh... i honestly never really thought we'd see this guy again no it was like oh hey we want to
1:46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, reappear in the world of wrestling on a random collision in front of like, I don't know, like, fifteen hundred people, probably.
1:46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know where they were last night, but so random, so wild.
1:46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely got out what the fuck reaction from me.
1:46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I feel too ways about this.
1:46:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Koda.
1:46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our boy.
1:46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the golden lovers.
1:46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming out to fight in honor of his boy, Kenny.
1:46:30
[SPEAKER_01]: This is bringing tears to my eye, making my heart flutter.
1:46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But then the other side of me is like, dude, your body could explode at any second.
1:46:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure you should be going out there and doing this?
1:46:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you do go out there and do this,
1:46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: you should probably fight to catch the sooner rather than later, but then also your body might explode if you do that.
1:46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel too ways about this because I love this guy.
1:46:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking at he lost, he lost rest of the February.
1:46:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has, he has been somewhat active since the injury, but like, yeah, I'm in the same map mind.
1:47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Ibushi, but it was sad watching like the last, since he came into AEW, right?
1:47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, he didn't look great, and the injuries have just powered up really since that G-One injury.
1:47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So are we getting, what would this be?
1:47:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like probably,
1:47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Briscoe bushyens, B. Bulvas is to Keshtar Aleksandr and Fletcher.
1:47:33
[SPEAKER_00]: All in a potential thing.
1:47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:47:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:47:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:47:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I imagine we get golden lovers versus to Keshtar and Okada.
1:47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether that's before.
1:47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: all in or after, but like that's a big match as well.
1:47:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The gold lovers to Kestokada, that's nuts.
1:47:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, selfishly, I would really, really, really love to Kestok versus Abushi.
1:47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all
1:48:00
[SPEAKER_00]: in our minds because I don't know if this guy is actually going to be able to physically do these things like we're not that's why I'm leaning towards the like free OS match because you can you can somewhat hide him and having come in for like some spots.
1:48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: As cool as to catch the verses.
1:48:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Abushi sounds I don't know in twenty twenty five.
1:48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's able to do that.
1:48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I get even the they're teasing Ocata Abushi right here off the bat.
1:48:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm coming out here.
1:48:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, yeah, I got a reaction being like, I didn't see this happening or whatever, but I'm worried.
1:48:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm worried as a fan of this guy.
1:48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, we've seen the injuries in the last year and two years and stuff.
1:48:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And that mere food injuries.
1:48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, I don't know, just like, I'm worried, but
1:48:45
[SPEAKER_01]: be again the other devil on my shoulders like yeah, but if you can fucking go and you can do like you're a demon, this man is insane.
1:48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that.
1:48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We know this firsthand that we should go to this if we can and I've been loving my Takesha and I'm worried about where his placement with all in and stuff, but I do think we'll get
1:49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: some involvement with Don Callous family, Abushi, and all that stuff.
1:49:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're right, maybe if it's some sort of like multi-manet all in with the other members, like Takeshta, Alexander versus Unfletcher.
1:49:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Well I see Fletcher versus Adam Cole.
1:49:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
1:49:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess so.
1:49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I want Bandito versus Dekeshda at all and to be honest with you.
1:49:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we've seen that match once or twice before, but I think they're at both different places.
1:49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito's had a hell of a week for me.
1:49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I really loved his matches.
1:49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So they had a bit of a tease there on Dynamite where it was kind of like, oh, hey, Dekeshda, like you could easily do that as your ring, they've wrestled before on Dynamite, I think, but you could do it ring a boner.
1:49:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure if that's still a thing.
1:49:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, no ring a boner still a thing, but I mean, like,
1:49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: the the the is our paper view see is there are they doing a show the same week is all in I don't even know so I have not said I don't necessarily follow ring of honor but sorry uh... yet they're doing that is it death before dishonor they're doing that whole stretch in Texas right they've got to
1:50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if that's where you do to Keshta versus Bandito, but selfishly like that's also an awesome all-in match if you were to announce that because Bandito has been killing it lately and so is to Keshta and I hope they've also announced the casino we're going all over the place, but the casino got that thing that's where you throw in a lot of those guys too, right?
1:50:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Has that been officially announced now?
1:50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they announced it right at the end of collision.
1:50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, hey, by the way, this match is back.
1:50:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So I imagine you get your like, to cash out your ricochet or some people that are like bigger guns, but aren't necessarily being used in some of the other stuff.
1:50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Takeshiz and that as well.
1:50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm not sure.
1:50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, I was like, what a boosty.
1:50:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You should not be back, but I'm happy that you're back.
1:50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: If that makes sense.
1:50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we'll see.
1:50:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm liking the, I know you Neil talked about like the Kenny stuff was so over the top.
1:50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You were mentioned like, AW trying to be like WWE.
1:51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's
1:51:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's them doing that.
1:51:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like okay, you're gonna spit up all this blood and like fuck.
1:51:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the beat down.
1:51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something with Kenny though, isn't it?
1:51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Like love Kenny, but there's just something I I feel you could've done this angle with someone else spitting up blood and it wouldn't be as goofy, but it's just something about Kenny's face and his his acting that just made it look
1:51:26
[SPEAKER_00]: like ridiculous eating jelly donuts.
1:51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm still like this matches the drop for all in for me like just seeing it live is I think moves a lot of tickets.
1:51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They've moved quite a lot in the last like few weeks of since announcing some stuff or teasing stuff.
1:51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we're going towards Swerve and Osprey versus the young bucks, which again might not be we've broken record might not be the ultimate like one-on-one scenario you want for Osprey, but
1:51:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Swerving Osprey versus the young bucks sounds awesome.
1:51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So they've teased that in really heavily with collision with dynamite this week.
1:52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine that gets announced this Wednesday for all in as well.
1:52:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So that should be a pretty sweet match.
1:52:08
[SPEAKER_01]: All in looking kind of stack if we're adding mjf, mystical, mass versus hair.
1:52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
1:52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Her business versus
1:52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Jetfly no speed fly what is it what's their name speed air air speed fly speed like what's our speed ball in this oh speed ball and And what's it?
1:52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's the other guys.
1:52:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know
1:52:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's speed boss power Kevin Kevin Kevin night speed night night writer.
1:52:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah speed.
1:52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I was way off.
1:52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I thank you.
1:52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I must have fallen asleep in my lazy for during that like
1:52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been, they've been the team for the last little while, but I am.
1:52:55
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like, okay, but have they set that up?
1:52:57
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's what I'm like.
1:52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that match set up or just it?
1:53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like they're, they're going to emerge.
1:53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you had them on Dynamite also attack those two.
1:53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would assume that all in tag title match is JetSpeed versus hurt, hurt syndicate, in some way, shape or form.
1:53:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Which also is pretty cool.
1:53:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So like again, and then I
1:53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: sweatshirt versus coal.
1:53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So like that's already looking like a pretty big lineup stacked all in card there.
1:53:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's if those are those matches that I think that's the direction that we're going.
1:53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That would sound good.
1:53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Fletcher needs to take that title from coal as well.
1:53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:53:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Call just isn't hitting for me.
1:53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys aren't hitting for me lately.
1:53:39
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all.
1:53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
1:53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:53:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so like I skim- yeah, I skim through collision.
1:53:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing really was code of boost.
1:53:46
[SPEAKER_01]: She kind of coming back.
1:53:47
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like, what?
1:53:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
1:53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
1:53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:53:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's fuck it.
1:53:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We ball.
1:53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess kind of thing.
1:53:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking forward to this upcoming week with all the builds for all in.
1:53:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to what we do with the boost.
1:54:00
[SPEAKER_01]: She they announced he's on Wednesday.
1:54:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's in a wrestle, but maybe Josh Alexander is the first one there.
1:54:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of stuff going on in the world of wrestling, and it never, never, ever stops, ever.
1:54:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
1:54:15
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:54:17
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1:54:20
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1:54:55
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