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Furness Show 5-20: Mariners miscues, John Canzano and the NBA woes · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFMS sports.
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  Speaker 2: Headlines headlines by to You by Frost Brewed cors Light
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  Speaker 2: choose chill manners. Losing last night weird game a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different ways. We'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: Two to won the final White Sox with the win
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  Speaker 2: final game of the series and the homestand coming up
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  Speaker 2: about one o'clock today, NHL Golden Nights stick on the
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  Speaker 2: ass that Game one Western Conference Finals five o'clock. Star
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  Speaker 2: defenceman for the Avs Cal mccarr out upper body injury.
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  Speaker 2: Day to day Canadians and Hurricanes Eastern Conference Finals tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: at five. NBA Nicks came back big time, tack down
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  Speaker 2: the Cavs one to fifteen to one oh four last night,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two point deficit in the fourth quarter rally to
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  Speaker 2: take Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. Spurs and
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  Speaker 2: the Pukes. Tonight, Spurs lely that series one to zero
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  Speaker 2: in the West. They tip off at five thirty. Kansaity
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs wide receiver where she Rice Spent has been sent
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  Speaker 2: into thirty days in jail testing positive from marijuana violation
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  Speaker 2: of the terms of his probation. Also, Aaron Rodgers says
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  Speaker 2: this is his last year. It is let's go yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: four nine, four five one. Fire away your thoughts, comments,
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  Speaker 2: your questions.
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  Speaker 3: You're concerned and you know I love people, so sending
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  Speaker 3: those talkback talkbacks.
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  Speaker 2: seconds or less than away you go, and we got
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  Speaker 2: that for you as well. All that today. Obviously, Mariners
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  Speaker 2: in the first hour will go heavy and hard. We'll
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  Speaker 2: hear some audio from last night coming up in the
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  Speaker 2: second segment. There's that coming up. We got John Canzon.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna join us a two o'clock will face
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  Speaker 2: truth or one sorry, one o'clock, one o'clock, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: join us. I got John coming on. I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk some college football. I want to talk some college sports,
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  Speaker 2: bigger picture, this whole playoff situation. There's an interesting SoundBite
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  Speaker 2: I heard today. I think it was from a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days ago from the Iowa State Athletic director of
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  Speaker 2: the Big twelve, just basically telling the SEC and the
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  Speaker 2: Big ten just go away, do your own thing. Talk
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  Speaker 2: to John about that. I more and more I think
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  Speaker 2: about it, I'm feeling there's gonna be a push more
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  Speaker 2: and more for that to happen from conferences named the
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  Speaker 2: SEC and the Big Ten, and then it would be
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  Speaker 2: just a complete cutoff too, like you play each other
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  Speaker 2: and that's it and nobody else and you're on your
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  Speaker 2: own now, the money and all that. I don't even know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just it's I think people are getting tired
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  Speaker 2: of what's going on with those two conferences, specifically the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten. Yeah, maybe even more so viet than the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Don't getting all that with Canzono coming up? Also, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in Portland, the Clayton Bennett playbook being in
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  Speaker 2: the instituted by Tom Dunning, the new owner for the Blazers,
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  Speaker 2: And what's the NBA doing allowing this guy in the
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  Speaker 2: league and could that ever affect ownership here in Seattle
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  Speaker 2: and all that. We'll get all that coming up today
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  Speaker 2: on the show. So fire away Mariners lose first piggyback game. Sorry, Softy,
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  Speaker 2: if you're listing, I know you hate the term piggyback.
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  Speaker 2: I know you hate it, hate it with a passion.
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  Speaker 4: Now you call it though, so they called it.
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  Speaker 2: They called it piss pitcher. Usage felt like for a
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  Speaker 2: long time. It was looking really smart and really good,
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  Speaker 2: and then it didn't. But that was how they used Muno's.
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  Speaker 2: That's how they used the rock in the In the
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  Speaker 2: ninth inning, h Miller was great, no hitter through five.
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  Speaker 2: Castillo the rock, he was good for a while till
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  Speaker 2: the ninth inning, and even in the ninth. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you really got that much trouble I I
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  Speaker 2: I listen, we all have to have. We get paid
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  Speaker 2: to have an opinion here, and I understand that I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the right answer is. I know the
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  Speaker 2: right answer it wasn't what they did. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: the right answer is one of two things. It would
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  Speaker 2: be just to it's either you keep Castillo in there
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  Speaker 2: for the ninth and try to finish it off, or
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  Speaker 2: you bring Muno's in there to start the ninth.
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  Speaker 4: Were you okay with Bryce being taken out when he was?
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  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: That would be the no.
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  Speaker 2: That that part too. But again I don't have that information.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I hesitate to really be overly critical because
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're seeing. You know, they measure
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  Speaker 2: all the things and spin rates and velocity, and you
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  Speaker 2: know what's what's Garber seeing from him and what's his feedback.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it wasn't a pitch limit before
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  Speaker 2: the game, so that wasn't it. I that part I
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  Speaker 2: can I can live with, except for now you've burned
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  Speaker 2: Ferreer again, you know, for one hitter. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 2: the ninth inning was just an absolute disaster, like they
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  Speaker 2: threw up on themselves. And part of me is like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna lose a game, at least give us
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  Speaker 2: something to discuss. And you did, but what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: You know, should should cast you have been in there
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  Speaker 2: to start the ninth should have just been Munno's starting
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  Speaker 2: the ninth or should cast you have been given the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to get through the ninth inning he was pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Well that those are all the questions you have. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is the problem is this is this is why
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  Speaker 2: last check check it again. Here we did mollywat Monday,
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  Speaker 2: wait for it on a Monday. Oh Christ and Nate.
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  Speaker 2: We're at almost twenty seven thousand people have viewed our
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  Speaker 2: Instagram but just the Instagram post, right, that's not even
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  Speaker 2: the list on the criticism of Dan Wilson. And that's
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  Speaker 2: that's where we are in this town right now, whether
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners like it or not, that we are we
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  Speaker 2: have a Dan Wilson problem. We just do. Because everybody
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  Speaker 2: that's a fan here is questioning Dan Wilson, and then
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  Speaker 2: they're questioning why Dan Wilson's in the position in the
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  Speaker 2: first place, and they're questioning everything in the organization as
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  Speaker 2: a result. So you know, too many times there's issues
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  Speaker 2: that even the most casual baseball fan is asking and
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  Speaker 2: second guessing. Listen, again, we aren't the experts they are.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball has a lot of numbers that we don't aren't
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  Speaker 2: privy to, but it just nothing seems to make sense.
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  Speaker 2: And what happened in the ninth inning last night, piggyback
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  Speaker 2: aside didn't seem to make sense. Now, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to look at one silver lining, Castillo needs to get
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  Speaker 2: better and needs to get back to who and what
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  Speaker 2: he is, and he kind of looked that way yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He got his confidence back, his first gating, struck out
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  Speaker 2: the side. He was great.
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  Speaker 3: And the way you go, that's something that you and
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  Speaker 3: Andrews were talking about too, is that because his velocity
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  Speaker 3: is still there, it was the command that was more
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  Speaker 3: of the concern.
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  Speaker 2: And probably God's got to be mental, right, just got
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  Speaker 2: to be mended.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it all happens upstairs when it comes to command, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So he does that. I just I just wonder
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  Speaker 2: if ego comes into play, you know, with the organization.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're like, are we going to just try
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  Speaker 2: to prove something at the expense of maybe losing a game?
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to think not, but really like either. It
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  Speaker 2: just it just didn't make sense. And then I guess,
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  Speaker 2: I guess the one thing that really jumped out I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of us is then the Wilson doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know the rules. That such a that is such a
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  Speaker 2: bad look. Yeah, here's the thing. There's a big difference
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  Speaker 2: between not knowing the rules and trying to skirt the rules.
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  Speaker 2: Try to pull a fast one.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: And we'll hear the sound of the next segment. He
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  Speaker 2: just didn't know. That's just an egregious mistake on every level.
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  Speaker 2: So that happens. All those things take place. And oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, a single in the first inning and
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  Speaker 2: that was your only hit.
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  Speaker 4: We're seeing a little too much of that.
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  Speaker 2: You also have a pitcher starting for Chicago who's on
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  Speaker 2: the ropes in the first inning, He's thrown over thirty pitches.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't find the strike zone. I think Bento said
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  Speaker 2: it best to me. I was talking to him last night.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, Yeah, A looked like a ten you know,
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  Speaker 2: little leaguer that you know, or like, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: your first year of transitioning from coach pitch to player pitch,
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  Speaker 2: and if you can't throw enough strikes in the pit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you throw four or five balls in a row,
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  Speaker 2: then the coach comes in and throws a meatball up
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  Speaker 2: for the kid to hit, and then away you go.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it looked like with k Like you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: throw it, You couldn't throw a strike, and you get
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  Speaker 2: one run out of that any like, and one hit
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  Speaker 2: that was bad too. So you have all those things
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  Speaker 2: taking place. Garf can't hold guys on everything. It just
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  Speaker 2: was one of those nights. Like I said, there's a
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  Speaker 2: big part of me, I'm like, all right, well, it
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  Speaker 2: gives us something to talk about, and it did. But
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  Speaker 2: all those things rolled up into a nutshell and away
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  Speaker 2: we go. And that's where we are today with this
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  Speaker 2: baseball team. So we'll hear from both Wilson and Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Miller coming up that Bryce Miller's just looks so good. God.
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  Speaker 2: This is in the next segment. I'm going to kind
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  Speaker 2: of go through and just give you a little more
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  Speaker 2: context to where these guys are compared to years past,
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  Speaker 2: because they're off to the worst starting a while, and
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  Speaker 2: the only thing saving them, as we've said over and
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  Speaker 2: over again is the AL West isn't very good. It's
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  Speaker 2: well the American League as a whole.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't want to win on that premise.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. So we'll get into that a little bit too,
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  Speaker 2: and kind of paint the picture, give you a little
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  Speaker 2: what better feel as to where this compares what this
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  Speaker 2: season compares to Game fifty one tonight, So they're fifty
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  Speaker 2: games into the season. I mean, there's it's humming along.
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  Speaker 2: It is not early, it is it is humming along.
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  Speaker 2: I will get into it. We didn't really get into
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  Speaker 2: it as much as I wanted to yesterday, but we'll
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  Speaker 2: have some time with Kanzano and after Kanzano comes on
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  Speaker 2: Game two tonight in the Western Conference Finals of the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: I had I had to pick a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a fight, not a fight, a little bone, had a
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  Speaker 2: little bone pick to pick with Ashley because she was
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  Speaker 2: trying to be complimentary of SGA when I was driving
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  Speaker 2: in and I almost stroll off the road, like, what
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  Speaker 2: are we going? But listen? Jay Gilgis Alexander is a
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  Speaker 2: sensational basketball player. He's also one of the most maddening
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  Speaker 2: players to watch ever because of how the game is
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  Speaker 2: officiated with him in it, and oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: he plays for that team. And I found myself because
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  Speaker 2: I asked myself this question the other night on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: game one of the series, and we touched on We
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of texts yesterday, but I want to
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  Speaker 2: kind of get backto this little bit, especially the two
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  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Where are we with the Oklahoma City Thunder?
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  Speaker 2: They still weigh on you? Are they still a black
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  Speaker 2: cloud hanging over your head? We'll get more of that
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  Speaker 2: two o'clock today. I kind of thought I was over it.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of thought I was done with it, didn't
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  Speaker 2: have to worry about them anymore. Not the fact. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to win. They are winning. They're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: there winning for a while. They're here for a while.
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  Speaker 4: They're a good team. We have to we have It's okay,
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  Speaker 4: do acknowledge.
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  Speaker 2: It, and but I kind of thought I was over
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  Speaker 2: it they won the title last year. I'm like, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: we move on. I don't think I am. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I am. So we'll get into that coming up
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  Speaker 2: as well today in the two o'clock hour. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to talking to canz On. That'll be fun. We
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  Speaker 2: got a lot to get to with him in the
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  Speaker 2: world of college athletics and the NBA and what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in Portland and how it could affect what we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing here in Seattle as well. All that coming up.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hear from Bryce Miller. We'll hear from Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 2: couple of little news and notes before they get ready
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: to wrap up the series with Chicago in about forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes or so. Before that, let's just tell you
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things going on the ballpark. One. JP
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  Speaker 2: Crawford a late scratch, So your lineup. Cole Young at
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  Speaker 2: second base is your lead off hitter today, Julio at
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  Speaker 2: centerfield hit second, Naylor at third, Our bats third, playing
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  Speaker 2: first base, or Rose Arena is in a left field
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  Speaker 2: he is your cleanup hitter. Luke Raley in right field
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  Speaker 2: bats fifth. The DH is dom Canzone Patrick Wisdom back
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  Speaker 2: at third with the injury or the scratch of Crawford,
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  Speaker 2: that means that Colt Emerson is back at shortstop today,
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  Speaker 2: batting eighth, and Pareda is catching today he bats ninth.
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  Speaker 2: So before the game, the news coming out of T
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  Speaker 2: Mobile Park, JP Crawford telling Dan Wilson he would be
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  Speaker 2: willing to move to third base if they want to
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  Speaker 2: put Colt Emerson at shortstop, which is an interesting dynamic,
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  Speaker 2: especially with the health issues going on right now with
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  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan, his inability to stay healthy and being up
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  Speaker 2: every day, and also he's awful at third base defensively.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe JP would be better defensively at third He's not
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  Speaker 2: good defensively at shortstop. A little less range needed there.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure about the arm strength. That's something I don't
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  Speaker 2: know anything about, but I'm sure we'll hear about that
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  Speaker 2: in coming days. But selfless move in a sense the
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  Speaker 2: shortstop captain kind of in a sense of the infield saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if the kids ready to go, I'll move. Let's do that,
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  Speaker 2: and away we go. So let's get to it. Last night,
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller in the Piggyback Game, goes five and two thirds,
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  Speaker 2: gives up just one hit, one walk, seven strikeouts, facing
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  Speaker 2: nineteen batters. Was pulled after five and two thirds innings
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  Speaker 2: in the sixth innings, so Jose Ferreer came in. He
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  Speaker 2: pitched one third of an inning, got a strikeout, finished it,
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  Speaker 2: and then the rock came in after that for two
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  Speaker 2: and a thirds and Munos, Well, hear about the whole
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  Speaker 2: piggyback craziness with Dan Wilson a second. But here let's
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  Speaker 2: just talk about a highlight from yesterday again. It was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting dynamic for pitchers. Probably didn't affect Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 2: as much. But Bryce Miller postgame about last night.
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  Speaker 5: First, as you try to make the Caseville Dame Wry
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  Speaker 5: came out to get you there in the sixth or
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  Speaker 5: did we were just great to.
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  Speaker 6: Change it number?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 7: No, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 8: I thought I'd pushed the ball well up til then.
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  Speaker 6: I I wasn't thinking I was coming out.
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  Speaker 8: But I mean I tried.
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  Speaker 7: But I want you a little an intrust him wortment
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  Speaker 7: to go through this piggyback and the experiment the first
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  Speaker 7: time through, which just a mentality not knowing what the least.
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  Speaker 6: Was gonna be, And how didn't you shouldn't you approach
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  Speaker 6: it at all?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't change anything for me.
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  Speaker 7: Usually I just go and throw it until they take
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  Speaker 7: it from me.
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  Speaker 8: And I mean shout out to Rock. I know it's
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  Speaker 8: not an.
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  Speaker 5: Easy situation for him at all, and these great dude,
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  Speaker 5: great teammate and handled it the best he could, but
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  Speaker 5: didn't know nothing changed for me.
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  Speaker 2: First, this doesn't we like.
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  Speaker 7: Both of you guys want to start or what wants
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  Speaker 7: to start? Just do everything normal? I mean, also, you
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  Speaker 7: wanna do what's best with the team.
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  Speaker 9: How do you walk that line of like what's comfortable
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  Speaker 9: what isn't knowing you you're trying to do what's best.
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  Speaker 7: For the team as well, I mean, how do you
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  Speaker 7: do that?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it's.
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  Speaker 3: We we.
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  Speaker 5: We gotta throw the ball whenever they tell us to
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  Speaker 5: throw it. And whether that's you know, a hundred pitches
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  Speaker 5: or seventy or fifty for Rock, we're trying to win games.
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  Speaker 8: And I mean, but yeah, we'd all of us.
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  Speaker 5: Rocks made what a hundred and fifty starts or more
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  Speaker 5: in his career and and he's been really.
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  Speaker 8: Good at it. And it's it's a tough situation. I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 5: We have six guys that are that are really good starters.
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  Speaker 5: So it's somebody has to do something. And uh, at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know, we we wanna
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  Speaker 5: win and however, however we we didn't.
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  Speaker 8: Need to do that, and we'll do it.
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  Speaker 10: It's the difference.
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  Speaker 9: Did you feel a difference today versus your last outing
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: if Houston obviously there was more swimming miss, do you
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: feel like even more, like you know, we'll get command
• 16:15
  Speaker 9: of stuff compared.
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: Maybe when you were first outing?
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: I I felt great, Uh, both both outings. Fastball had
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: a little more ride today. But uh it's different lineup Houston.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: They they put the ball in play, they don't strike
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: out that much, and I think this team is a
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: little more home run dependent and they'll swing and miss
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: a little more.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: So.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I just tried to attack. I I had
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: a feeling and I you know, wasn't probably gonna get
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: a hundred pitches today, so.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Try to attack and.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Go as deep as I could.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: Did that allow you to kind of maybe let it
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: r a little earlier?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: If you were up to ninety ninety three, I think
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: your fastest pitch.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: Ever, that kind of feel like that was a little more,
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: a little more maybe than you really would do if
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: I had a truly.
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: Now, Uh, I'm.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: Every time I throw the ball, I try to throw
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: it as hard as I can.
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: So now it did like it didn't change anything. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: mean I I didn't if it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Would have been.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Four innings and a hundred pitches like I like I,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think there was like a set number that
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: they wanted me to get to or not get past.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: It's first time doing this piggyback thing for all of us,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: so it's kind of, uh, see how it goes thing
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: and kind of read how the game's going and go
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: from there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: But yeah, nothing changed for me.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: What was your feeling working with the garbage? Is hit
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: a great.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: I didn't shake him a single time. He's really good
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: back there, and it it was. It's good having him back,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: For year three of him. He's he's caught me and
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: all of us a lot, so I I trust him fully.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: First yesterday writing said something to the effect of, it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: so challenging in this clubhouse because everyone has the right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: DNA at going is the Christian player and or so
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: when things go wrong, I it's.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: Hard to come to you.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: It's hard to start for answers about what's going wrong.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: What is your process done with?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: We we we've talked, you know, as a team, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I think we all know that, like this.
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: Clubhouse has the tools and has the right players.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: The last few years it's been you know, like we're
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: trying to chase we think we deserve to be there
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: and we gotta go a prove it and all that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: This year, like it's it's different. We we know like
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: where the team in the AL West.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: We know that we should be the best team in
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the American League, and it's like at times we just haven't.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: We haven't proven it, you know, and it's it's, uh,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: we haven't, Like I don't know, sometimes we just we
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: don't have that that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Attitude of like.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Everybody's coming to beat us and kind of just you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: flat sometimes and I think I don't forget it's it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: It is a tough spot because we we know how
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: good we are and how good we should be, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you know, it feels like we've given given games away
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: multiple times, and it's you know, season is still early,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: and luckily the division has been pretty bad.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: So we've still got plenty of times.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: But I don't know, I feel like at this point
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: we very easily could be five to ten games up
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: on the division and and separating, but still got time.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: It's it's made so.
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: I used to see this street.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: I mean you kind of just turn the page and
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: you get over that long piece of beautiful.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, on the positive side, I feel great, body
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: feels good. There's a lot a lot more fun pitch
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: and health eating.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I just a mile is a
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: new day. We'll go out and win tomorrow, and when
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: it's my turn to throw again, go out and let
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: it rip.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: That's all they can do, all right. We'll see if
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: they go out and win today to wrap up the series.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I love hearing from Bryce Mill again. Like as he said,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it's hard to say it was a selfless move on
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: his part because he really didn't. As he mentioned, didn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: change anything for him, this whole piggyback thing, although it
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: did in a sense, because I do think that they
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: got to the point with him. You know, he threw
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: seventy He threw only through seventy two pitches.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: He could have gone first less than he did his
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: first outing, and.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: He could have gone further into the game. They were
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: so hell bent and tent on getting Castillo in there
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and getting him a decent amount of work. They go
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to Ferrara as a bridge with the left hander and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. He's right, They have six starters,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: assuming Castillo can get back to some level of his
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: normal form. They have six starters before we hear from
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, because that's the main event. Actually, you know what,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: we'll hear from Dan right now. I want to hear
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: from Dan, right. I think that's a good idea because
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I know this. And good job by the Mariners sticking
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: around on the postgame show to carry the manager. Good
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: job by the pr staff to get the manager out
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: in time to do so. Sometimes that doesn't happen. Sometimes
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen, not with no baseball team's good. Football
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: team's good. Sometimes the coach that you want to hear
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: from doesn't make his way out to forty minutes after
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a game's over Climate Pledger anyway, Sometimes that doesn't happen.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: But it's just a it's stuck in my craw will
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: be a very much because listen, I'll be honest with you.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: After a loss like that, you have to hear from
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the manager, and to be honest with you, there were
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: times when Root sports with Bail and so I'm glad
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: they stuck around. Yeah right, And I know this. There
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: was a lot of times last year I wanted to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: hear what Lane Lambert had to say, and he didn't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: come out till well after the game's over, and it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: just unacceptable. I wanted to we all wanted to hear
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: what Dan Wilson. Not everybody watches the post game show.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, I want to hear Dan. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: we heard from Dan because there was a lot to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: hear from the manager last night after that loss.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: Here he is, Yeah, it's up one to lose late tonight.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: The way the guy's pitch tonight, you know, got the
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: one run early. Uh, you know what, I thought, we
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: did a good job putting a lot of pitches on
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Kay early, you know. Uh, and then but then he
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: was able to kind of settle in and and uh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: you know it was was a little bit tougher as
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: the game went on, just not able to get too
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: much going on after that first inning there, but uh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: you know, Bryce was throwing the ball extremely well. You know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: Fred did a really nice job getting us out of it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: And then you know, Rock continued to throw the ball well,
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: and uh, you know, just just weren't able to hold
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: on to it in the end. And that's a tough one.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Tough one to lose.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Consideration of what it is.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Just start any longer.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It was just the.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think you know, again, we we
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: talked about before you know, the game started that you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: different scenarios exist, and in this you know, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: the piggyback situation, and you know, the rock had gotten
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: in there a little bit later, so you know, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: we felt really comfortable with the rock out there, especially
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: the way he was throwing the ball, and and uh,
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: you know it, it just didn't go away there in
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: the night.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, start winning game, you know, one games twice now
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: in the last Sea game or the last Ye game,
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: the guys were gotten the one hit a game.
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: Where are you seeing right now?
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, early, I
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: thought the at bats were good. We were putting you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: long at bats, we were seeing pitches and uh, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: I think he was you know, kind of spraying the
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: ball quite a bit earlier. You know, he found a
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: little bit better command later on. And you know, he's
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: he can be difficult when he's you know, when he's
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: able to command the ball. He pitched well against us
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: in Chicago, and uh, you know, we just weren't able
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: to add on. We weren't able to get traffic and
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: get the ball going and you know, uh, it's frustrating
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: for sure, but uh, you know, we got to come
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: back tomorrow and and win the series.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Dad, What do you think was the daties takeaway from
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the taken deck situation was with Bryce? You know, that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a situation even with burd comedy.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, that would probably keep.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: Him in the game with the one hit, the one walking,
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: the less than eighty tations and that's vision.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: I mean again, it's uh, you know, it's a different scenario.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: It's a it's a you know, a different situation. You know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: Bryce had thrown the ball extremely well and and uh
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: you know I think, uh, you know, had it not
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: been for for no hits, I think, you know, would
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: have been a different guy out there to start the inning.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: But you know, I think in that situation, with with
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: it being the one run game, we felt like we
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: could get get the you know, left on left there
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: and and get out of the inning and and then
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: hand the ball of the rock. And I thought Freer
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: came in and did a nice job on how.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Was throwing what you saw from the lease later in.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: The team, how unclined the right Now would you need
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: to go back to this to get next turn right
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: for the invitation.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, the way both
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: guys handled it I thought was, you know, they handled
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: extremely well. You know, I give the Rock a lot
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: of credit. He had to be kind of flexible down there, uh,
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: you know, giving Bryce a situation and and uh, you
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: know the no hitter and and and then you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: I thought he did a really nice job of being flexible.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: And then you know, coming in there, and and you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: I thought he was throwing the ball extremely well. So
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: I thought both guys handled it very very well, extremely well.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: And and you know we'll continue to to you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: reflect on it and talk about it to you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: next time around.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Because this is a typicult like you're not give him
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: done before, you know, just just your thought process changed
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: the next time around, Like you know, maybe if it
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: isn't clean inning, do you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: Go to munus or do you change anything?
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Because you have one time to evaluate and.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Look at what he did and go back. Yeah, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: mean I think we'll we'll we'll all look at it,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: we'll talk about it and and uh, you know see
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: where we might have you know, done things differently or
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: or you know, make our adjustments from there. You know again,
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: this is a it's a game of adjustments and and
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: and we'll have to make ours as as we go forward,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: and and and do this the next time. You know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: what was the explanation? You got trying and great the
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: division changes, you're not allowed to go back out, And
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: that's on me. You know, I thought we could still
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: go out and make the change. And you know, thankfully
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: Rock got the got the out, got the punch out
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: and we were able to make the change. But yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: that once, once the pitching coach goes out, he has
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: to see it earlier.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: Here.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: That's tough, is it with the movies in particular?
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: You know he needs that extra time. Came the warms up,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: and when did you start to think like, okay, maybe
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: we will have to do it as mony.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: And how quickly is that conversation happened?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: I mean I think, uh, you know, I think he
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: was up and and h was ready to go. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: think we you know, we knew that if there was
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: some traffic and and you know we had a chance
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: to close it out, that that's where we would probably go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: So he was ready to go.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Cana this big price a second outing of the eye
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: on where did you see his stuff as it went
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: on with him?
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think it was more
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: of the same from what we saw in Houston. And uh,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: you know, we saw the good velocity. Uh he threw
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: a couple splits to night. There were just you know, unbelievable.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Uh and and uh, you know, again using using all
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: his stuff, but the off speed, the you know, the
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: fastball continuing to be up towards ninety eight ninety nine
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: pretty consistently. You know, he he just had it all
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: going and it seemed like, you know, he was you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: after having the start in Houston. You know, this was
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: kind of another step forward in terms of him coming back.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: And and I thought this stuff was great.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That's Dan Wilson last night,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: owning the fact he didn't know the rules, which is
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: just mind boggling to me, I think to all of us,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: just really kind of inexcusable. But there was a money
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: SoundBite in there that Jess has. I'm gonna play it
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: again in terms of the usage and the whole piggyback situation. Jess,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: go ahead and play that again.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean again, it's you know, it's a different scenario.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: It's a it's a you know, a different situation. You know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Bryce had thrown the ball extremely well, and you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, had it not been for no hits,
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, would have been a different guy
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: out there to start the inning. But you know, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: think in that situation, with with it being the one
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: run game, we felt like we could get get the
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: you know, left on left there and get out of
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: the inning and then hand the battle of the rocket.
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: And I thought Freer came in, did a nice job.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So what he's telling you is this that through five
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: innings a no hitter Bryce Miller. Hell, he could have
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: had a one hitter through five innings, but this was
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: a no hitter. They were going to take him out
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: after five.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. Nobody does make it makes sense.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Nobody gets it because they wanted to stick with the piggyback.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. Why though, that's and well, I can't
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: wait for cross talk today because you know who hates
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the piggyback. I don't know if you saw his social
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: media last night, our boy, our boy at three o'clock,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he when I bring up the word piggyback, he's gonna
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: lose his mind.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. Isn't it a waste of even
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: that situation.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Couldn't you preserve that situation for the future if your
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: guy on the mound throwing ten less pitches than he
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: did in his first outing back from rehab gets taken
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: out like he's throwing a not a perfect game, but
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: a perfect game, throwing a wonderful game.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: The thing I don't understand about baseball. I'll be the
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: first to admit that I don't understand the lack of flexibility.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I do not understand the world we live in.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I thought that the piggyback was in case you need it,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: we will.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: This was this is We're gonna get his ass in
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: there no matter what. And I know, but why, Well,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that's a great question.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I'm so frush.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: That's a great question. There's a great question. But it's
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: it's you know, And as Softy mentioned, he's probably got
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a point. Is cast you a starter as a reliever,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: he's a really reliever. Treat him like any other reliever,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: but he's not because it's the first time he's ever
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: come out of the bullpen in his career in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: regular season, now playoffs aside, But this first time he's
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: ever come out of the bullpen in the regular season,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and so.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: They were they were highlighting that on the broadcast last night.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: But the lack of flexibility, and I guess things that
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it's hard for me to wrap my arms round because
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: we're all in this world right now, we're all questioning
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson and is Dan Wilson the right guy? Well,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: and but then the other part of it is how
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: much does a manager really have a say in a game? Well,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: last night you saw a lot. Yeah, And I'm thinking
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to myself and I heard people say this, Well, it's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a really big it's a challenge, it's you know, it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: it's a whole thing. It's this, it is this and this.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Think about what a football coach, think about what Mike
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: McDonald goes through, Jed Fish, Kirby Moore, doesn't matter. But
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: let's just use Mike aus he's a Super Bowl champion,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Sean mcfah. What do they go through in the course
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: of a sixty minute football game? How many decisions do
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: they make? How flexible must they be on the fly.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: On the run.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: It can't be that hard in baseball, but we certainly
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: make it hard in this town. And he seems to
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: make it hard as well. So how hard can it be?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it doesn't seem that way. We'll come
• 31:59
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• 32:02
  Speaker 2: give you kind of a feel for where they are
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: compared to years past. How is it? Is it better? Worse? Same?
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a hit, it ain't better. We'll
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  Speaker 2: To come a dodge text line four nine four or
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  Speaker 2: your voice. You go the iHeartRadio app red microphone at
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  Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app. Speak where you go.
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  Speaker 3: Who.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Let's see let's see. Okay, the guy I'm just gonna
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: tell you right now, fella, the fella with the three
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: oh four final four digits of your phone number criticizing
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, just stop it, just get a life.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, what did Bryce do wrong?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't like it, he says, you know or
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: sign Oh yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 13: There.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: He's not a professional speaker. He's an athlete.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Just he's a pitcher and also one of the nicest guys.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: On the team.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: He really is. And actually, if the reason I want
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: just to play it, you know aside, is because I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: wanted to hear I thought he was what he had
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to say was interesting. But yeah, he does use it. Hell,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: we all, so many.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: People do I do. We all have things weekend, So
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I have to edit my own out like.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: That stuff I find myself. I will say radio is
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a little bit different than television in that I find
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: myself in radio being a lot more conversational in the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: sense of like how you would just be talking to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: your buddies, your friends, what happens.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It's a conversation. It's comfortable.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: So you because of that, you become almost too comfortable.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Oh right, And so yeah, television. I am not an
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: on person.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Like it's nothing I do now is scripted with the Kraken.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But it has to be a lot more succinct, I guess,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: is what I would say. So we all have our
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: radio sync, we all have our things that we are crutches.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: This is a crutch. We all have a crutch. In fact,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Alison and I laugh all the time. We all have
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: our crutches. I'm not going to sell anybody out. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: have a crutch. She has a crutch, Brett has a crutch.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: In terms of our pre and post game show, Piper
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: has a crutch. We all all four of us on
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: our pre and post game shows. Intermission sho the crack.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: We all have a TV crutch. A little phrase. Again,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sell any of it out anybody out.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: We all have one.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I can tell you a good one.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: What is it? Current NFL head coach who I have
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: advised when it came to media once he was making
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the rise, asked me and I told him what his
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: crutch was, and I could tell what he was using.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he made it his thing. After that, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: was like, you either erase it or you lean into it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And he leaned into it because that it's not a crutch.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so one just real quick text before I
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: give you a little context where these guys are. This
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: is from the two five three. It's called long reliever.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Piggybacking doesn't make sense with five great starters. Castillo is
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: a long reliever moving forward for any of our starts
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that don't have it on a specific day. I I, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: maybe it was Dan that said, you know, okay, whatever,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. But let's just go back to that
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: for a second, because I think it. I think both. Okay,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: let's go back to what Because Softy was raving about
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: this last night on his Instagram post, which I still like.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I'd like to him go for him to go back
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to driving with Dave as opposed to sitting in his
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: den in his little office just sideways mad. I'd like
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: him to be driving with Dave a lot better.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't want him on the road.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Well, nobody wants that stage. That's a good point. The
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: mine's along the way, Do I say that? Okay, it's
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: good to know anyway, that's actually not the one I have.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's yours. Well, maybe you're just talking
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: about TV crutch.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe it is, maybe it is okay, But let's go
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: back the castile. Is he a reliever? He's to me,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: he's too valuable to be a reliever. I mentioned the context.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So here's where they are after fifty games twenty three,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: twenty seven this year, six game, four games under five hundred,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: which is kind of feels like they've been between four
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and one game under five hundred forever, and I think
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: they have been, to be honest with you, last season
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: this is this is I think worth noting.
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: Now.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: One of the things that you can get away with
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: is the bad league, the American League being bad, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the bad division, the aos being the NFC South. From
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: a year ago in the NFL, or eight to nine
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: won the division. I mean, I don't have to go
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: back to twenty ten and relive seven to ten. It
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: happened last year eight to nine in the NFL NFC South,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But a year ago, the Mariners were eight games above
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: five hundred. At this point, they were twenty nine to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: twenty one on the way to win the ALE West.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, the Mariners were four games above five hundred.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: At twenty seven and twenty three, twenty twenty three, two
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: games above five hundred at twenty six and twenty four.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: So this is their worst record in their last four
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: seasons through fifty games. That's the bad news. Here's the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: good news now. But you're also relying when I give
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you the good news, you're also relying on some stuff
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to really flip around and turn the switch. In twenty
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: twenty two when they made the playoffs, I remember they
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: only made the playoffs three times since two thousand and one,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: two thousand and one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty five.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: But in twenty and twenty two, at this point they
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: were actually worse. They were eight games under five hundred,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they were twenty one and twenty nine. So and we
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: all know they rallied, got a wildcard spot, got to
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. I don't think wildcards good enough. I don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: think any of us should think wild cards good enough.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It just isn't. This is a team that should win
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the division, should have home field advantage, should probably be
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the number two seed at worst in the American League. Again,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the AL East has two teams that are probably going
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to be better when it's all said and done record wise,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: but this is a team that should have that going
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: for them. So I don't love the comparison to twenty
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: twenty two, but it has been worse, but it's only
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: been worse once in the last five years. This is
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the second worst record in the last five years for
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: this baseball team at twenty one, at twenty three and
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. So they got work to do. They have
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: work to do. Can they do it? Yeah? They have
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: five and a half six starters. We saw the ability
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: of Bryce Miller. We've seen this pitching staff get going.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: They got to start hitting. They need to start hitting.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I kind of shudder to think where this team would
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: be if not for the great start that Luke Raley's had.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Cole Young's cooled off, but Cole Young's first month plus
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: of the season was fantastic. JP Crawford, for all the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: defensive stuff we talk about, gets on base Naylor been
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: better still not to what they need him to be.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: His ops still isn't what he wanted what he was
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in the last season for Seattle. Defensively, they're a bad
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: baseball team.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: One of the things we didn't touch on last night
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: that really cost them the game was when Munno's did
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: come in and again piggybacking aside when he came in
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: ability to hold runners on between him and Garber, because
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: that double steal ended up being the ballgame. Yep, that
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: was the ballgame. All right, all right, we're good, let's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: do this, take a quick break. We'll come back top
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• 40:17
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• 42:29
  Speaker 2: how are you.
• 42:30
  Speaker 14: I'm doing well, and you're right, there's a lot to
• 42:32
  Speaker 14: talk about it. It never feels like it stops. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 14: and I don't mind that. And I think it's a
• 42:38
  Speaker 14: fascinating time to be a media member and a sports fan.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I said this to our show
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: before me today. We're doing a little thing called cross talk,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: and Ashley says, you know, Mariners and you know this,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, though, if you're going
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to lose a game, do it like you did last night.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Give us something to talk about. Like it's one hundred
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and sixty two baseball games. So do a piggyback thing
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: that no one can understand and have it blow up
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: in your face in the ninth Have it blow up
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: in your face in the ninth inning. Have a manager
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: not know the rules and try to come out and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: make a pitching change after the pitching coach had already
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: been out there and there wasn't a pitch stort in between. Like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: give us all of that, John and then some right,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: just get It's like the days that when we first
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: got to Portland, you and I and O two, give
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: me the if you're going to be an NBA team,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: give me the jail Blazers over something boring and what
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: we had that didn't we Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 14: And look I covered prior to the jail Blazers. It
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: was I had, you know, I covered Jerry Tarkanian tark Shark,
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: I covered Bobby Knight. And I always felt like I
• 43:36
  Speaker 14: never turned my tape recorder off back in the day,
• 43:39
  Speaker 14: never a boring day at work. You never knew what
• 43:42
  Speaker 14: to expect. And I think that's part of what makes
• 43:44
  Speaker 14: sports fun. I mean, it's supposed to be a diversion.
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: It's not supposed to be like regular life. It's not
• 43:49
  Speaker 14: supposed to be death in taxes. It's supposed to be interesting,
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: and so you do a good job on the show.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna weave this back into Seattle in the second John,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: but let me let's start here, because as we away,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the NBA may be awarding a franchise back to Seattle.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: We believe it's going to happen, probably in the fall.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: We thought, hoping for the summer. That doesn't appear to
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: be the case right now, but maybe by the fall
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: we'll have after a twenty year absence, the NBA coming
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: back to Seattle. We look down south and look at
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Portland and what happened yesterday? The owner nicknamed El Chipo
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: from the Carolina Hurricanes, Tom Dundan, who now is the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I guess the controlling owner, a majority owner, however it
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: works of the Portland trail Blazers. They make a move yesterday.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: They lay off at least seventy people. I think there's
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: more to come. They haven't touched the broadcasting department yet,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and I know there's a lot of trepidation for those
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: folks as well. So walk me through what's the reaction
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: for an owner that has done nothing to really kind
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of endear himself yet to the market. Yeah.
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: Look, he's been on the job and we'll call it
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: a job as owner for a month now officially. And
• 44:56
  Speaker 14: you know, if it was just a layoff, like he
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: just was coming in and he said, Hey, this organization's
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: too fat, which it may have been. We need to
• 45:03
  Speaker 14: cut some jobs, we need to restructure.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I want to do it my way.
• 45:07
  Speaker 14: I don't think the criticism for him would be there
• 45:10
  Speaker 14: if it was just this one thing, but it's not.
• 45:13
  Speaker 14: I mean, he came in and immediately his first act
• 45:16
  Speaker 14: was to tell his paying customers, I'm not gonna give
• 45:18
  Speaker 14: you T shirts at a playoff game, and people kind
• 45:21
  Speaker 14: of went, okay, is that a big dealer or not. Gosh,
• 45:24
  Speaker 14: it looks cheap. And then he said, and the two
• 45:26
  Speaker 14: way players that helped get us to the playoffs, you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: they're not gonna travel. They're not going on the road
• 45:31
  Speaker 14: to Phoenix. And by the way, when we're in Phoenix,
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: we're gonna have to honor the noon checkout time because
• 45:37
  Speaker 14: we don't want to pay for an additional night of
• 45:39
  Speaker 14: the hotel. And then he's negotiating behind his head coaches
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: back to try to go find the next coach, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 14: there's all this talk about how he wants to go
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: in the cheap there. So if it wasn't, if it
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: was just this layoff thing, you kind of go, this
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: is a guy doing good business, trying to trim some fat.
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: But it's not.
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: It's the larger narrative. It's out of a playbook that
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: people in Seattle probably recognize. It's ham handed. How much
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: is he really saving right now? I think it's very intentional.
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: I think this is a guy, you know who he's
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: not a very holistic person. Made his money in subprime
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: automobile loans. That's another business. It's a bit cutthroat. But
• 46:18
  Speaker 14: you know, people in Seattle have seen this. You've been
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: to the Puppet show, You've seen the strings like you
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: saw this with Clay Bennett in two thousand and six.
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: And if Dundon is not angling to move the team,
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: then I have to believe that his motive is he
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: wants people to be afraid that he's moving the team
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: because he's signaling this in so many ways, and he's
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: signaling that he's going to be frugal, and then coming
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: out and doing a podcast interview where he says, I'm
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: not cheap. He's trying to tell free agents, Hey, don't worry,
• 46:44
  Speaker 14: I've got you. We're gonna have lots of massages. We're
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: gonna have all that extra training stuff. But I have
• 46:49
  Speaker 14: concerns right now about the playbook that he's using. And
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: you probably recognize.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: It, well, I recognize it all. Two wells. Two thousand
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and six is Clayton Bennett. There's three years left on
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the lease. Three years left on the lease up here.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We all know that happened. Clayton Bennett came up here
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: and cut the franchise off at the knees with the community,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: said that hey, I want to work with the city,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I want to work with the state. I want to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: get a new building here in is not working. We
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: want to do this, and we want to do that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Let's look at a place in renting that was never
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: going to happen. He said all the right things, met
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: with met with lawmakers in Olympia. John I went down
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and covered that myself. It was right after I got
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: up here, went down and he's down there saying these things.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day we all knew
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: what it was. He was going to move the team.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Now I don't know if it's that intentional with Dundon,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But I see the Clayton Bennett playbook playing out. The
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: least thing is what scares me. And then you know,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like one of the things that he did here that
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Bennett did you know for the last two years, he
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: literally had the organization cut everything out. There was no marketing,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: there was They cut back on the broadcasts, which is
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: your conduit to the fans. They moved radio stations to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: a conservative talk station that has a zero signal rate.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, everything that cut the broadcast in terms of
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: television stuff, in terms of what they were doing. Everything
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: they did. Now he hasn't I know that Dundon hasn't
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: touched the broadcast yet, but they will. I mean, those
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: guys are the next It's not just gonna be seventy
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: people laid off. And when you cut yourself off from
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the community, usually there's isn't there an agenda? That's what
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I saw at here in oh six. I wonder what
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the agenda is down there.
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: Well, I think he wants let's give him the benefit
• 48:22
  Speaker 14: of the doubt, and let's just pretend for a minute
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: that his ultimate motive is not to move the team.
• 48:27
  Speaker 14: Let's just let's just uh, let's let's start with that
• 48:30
  Speaker 14: as a premise. If that's your motive, then if what
• 48:34
  Speaker 14: I think Tom Dundan is doing is he's creating the
• 48:37
  Speaker 14: fear of that portability, the fear of moving the team
• 48:41
  Speaker 14: in order to get the new arena that he wants,
• 48:43
  Speaker 14: in order to get the city to bend over backwards
• 48:45
  Speaker 14: and give him renovations if not new arena. You know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 14: maybe it's as simple as that that Dundon knows that
• 48:52
  Speaker 14: some uncertainty and the fear factor in Portland and what
• 48:55
  Speaker 14: happened in Seattle still lingers in the Pacific Northwest, that
• 48:59
  Speaker 14: the fear actor is a crowbar that he's wielding right now.
• 49:03
  Speaker 14: You know, maybe that's it, But I have to go
• 49:06
  Speaker 14: further because you know, I've got other people in the
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: NBA telling me that maybe the market for the expansion
• 49:12
  Speaker 14: team in Seattle is not as solid as the league thought. Maybe,
• 49:17
  Speaker 14: you know, the the idea that Dundon could move the
• 49:19
  Speaker 14: team potentially to to Seattle becomes opens up a city where,
• 49:25
  Speaker 14: you know, Vancouver, BC, could you get could you get
• 49:27
  Speaker 14: eight billion for an expansion team in Vancouver, BC? You know,
• 49:32
  Speaker 14: I think you know, those those ideas are out there
• 49:34
  Speaker 14: as well. And and Ian, I'll tell you this. You know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 14: I keep wondering why Adam Silver let this guy buy
• 49:41
  Speaker 14: the team? Yeah, because if you think about it.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he couldn't afford it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 14: He couldn't afford this team. He could only afford to
• 49:48
  Speaker 14: put together a group of ten other people. There's twelve
• 49:51
  Speaker 14: investors total, and and and they could only buy eighty percent.
• 49:55
  Speaker 14: They couldn't afford it. So why, like, how did this happen?
• 49:59
  Speaker 14: Why did Adam over let this happen? And I can
• 50:01
  Speaker 14: only surmise that the market for a small market team
• 50:06
  Speaker 14: was not robust and that the league's owners were concerned.
• 50:09
  Speaker 14: Can we hold that valuation for the expansion teams that
• 50:13
  Speaker 14: we want to get, whether it's six billion, eight billion,
• 50:16
  Speaker 14: whatever they're trying to get. If the Blazers don't sell
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: for above four billion, can you really justify the team
• 50:22
  Speaker 14: in Vegas selling for what we need out of it?
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: And so I kind of wonder if they took the
• 50:27
  Speaker 14: only decent offer that would support sort of the valuations
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: across the league. Sold eighty percent to Dundon put it
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: on lay away. The rest is on layaway till September
• 50:38
  Speaker 14: of twenty twenty eight. It's wild to that, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 14: you only have eighty percent of the team, but it
• 50:43
  Speaker 14: and then maybe you're you're just sort of propping this
• 50:46
  Speaker 14: up in house of cards right now if you're the NBA.
• 50:49
  Speaker 14: It may just be that there wasn't a robust market
• 50:52
  Speaker 14: for an NBA team in Portland.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: John Kenzona joining us, I'm glad you brought that up
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: because I think, as you said there to start, you know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering why Adam Silver allowed this to happen. And
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's my concern in Seattle looking at it
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: from you know, three hour south, is you know, in
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the NFL. You know, the NFL has its Every league
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: has its issues, but in the National Football League, they
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: are very concerned with who is in the club right
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: They're very concerned, Like like Dan Snyder, you're out of
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the club. You all you're part of it. You're out. Uh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the former owner in Carolina, You're a misogynist, racist, bigot.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: You're out. You're out. You're gonna be forced to sell
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the team. Where we don't want Jeff Bezos, We're gonna
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: have somebody else in the commanders, like like Cadell in
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the NFL, does a pretty good job of managing who
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: is in the club. The NBA, on the other hand,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: what worries me here in Seattle because I do believe
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that not only are the front runners, they're the leaders
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: in the club house, and I'm not sure if anybody
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: can catch them on the back nine. The owners of
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the Crack and Sam Holloway and the one roof group
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I believe will be the owners here in Seattle. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: then I see stuff like this happen. He lets a
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: guy like this in the league and as you mentioned,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't even really own the team, only eighty percent, and
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: they got a couple of years to get it done. John.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: That concerns me up in Seattle, moving in relocation aside,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: like would they bypass the owners of not just the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: owners and operators of the building, but also the NHL
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: team and say, hey, maybe we should bring these people
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: in instead. And I think that would just be an
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: absolute disaster and a mess if they did so.
• 52:22
  Speaker 14: There is a convicted felon named Eduardo Garcia, the second
• 52:26
  Speaker 14: that owned He's the biggest shareholder in the Carvana entity,
• 52:32
  Speaker 14: that corporate entity. You know, you talk about subprime automobile loans.
• 52:35
  Speaker 14: You look at a company like Carvana. Garcia sold hundreds
• 52:40
  Speaker 14: of millions of dollars of his Carvana stock on the
• 52:43
  Speaker 14: same day that Tom Dundon announced that he was bidding
• 52:46
  Speaker 14: on the Blazers. It and look, I don't think you'd
• 52:51
  Speaker 14: let a convicted felon own a team, But I'm not
• 52:54
  Speaker 14: going to be surprised if it turns out that some
• 52:56
  Speaker 14: of Garcia's money is in the Blazers. It just it's
• 52:59
  Speaker 14: they know each other, they run in the same circles,
• 53:02
  Speaker 14: you know. It's it's concerning to me that we don't
• 53:06
  Speaker 14: know how much of Tom Dundon's money is in the
• 53:09
  Speaker 14: Blazers at all. You know, a little bit of smoking
• 53:12
  Speaker 14: mirrors going on with his purchase of the team. I
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: know he sold about twelve percent of the Hurricanes to
• 53:17
  Speaker 14: kind of cash out a little bit of his money.
• 53:19
  Speaker 14: But you know, I had somebody who was interested in,
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: you know, kicking the tires on the Blazers and kicking
• 53:25
  Speaker 14: the tires on the expansion teams in Vegas and Seattle.
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: I had a member of that group tell me, they said, look,
• 53:30
  Speaker 14: this isn't Paul Allen, this isn't this isn't Bezos, this
• 53:33
  Speaker 14: isn't Balmer. This is a guy who's you know, of
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: course you'd love to have his money. Ian, You'd love
• 53:38
  Speaker 14: to have you know, Tom Dundon money, but you can't
• 53:42
  Speaker 14: come in and you can't buy the team. And so
• 53:46
  Speaker 14: I think he's probably got the minimum fifteen percent ownership
• 53:50
  Speaker 14: stake that the league allows. He took ten or twelve
• 53:54
  Speaker 14: other investors, including the Panda Express family and their money,
• 54:00
  Speaker 14: and I think he's sort of you know, there's private
• 54:02
  Speaker 14: equity money in. This is Garcia's money in that like,
• 54:05
  Speaker 14: there are a lot of questions to be unpacked when
• 54:07
  Speaker 14: it comes to the Blazers, but this is not for
• 54:11
  Speaker 14: the love of the game purchase. This was done and
• 54:15
  Speaker 14: saying I'm going to trade my NHL ownership for NBA ownership.
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: He's scaling up. Is he headed to the NFL in
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: the Dallas Cowboys one day?
• 54:25
  Speaker 15: We'll see.
• 54:26
  Speaker 14: But you know, I don't think he's here to you know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: connect with the community and shake hands with media members
• 54:32
  Speaker 14: and have fans love him. And that concerns me.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap. I want to get to college stuff in
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: a second. Just real quick, what is the reaction among
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: the fan base in Portland, very provincial town as you
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: well know, very loyal town. They didn't like Jody and
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Bert running the team for sure, and now they got
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: this guy coming in. All those people that got laid
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: off are members of the community. Many are well known
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: members of the community. What's the reaction in Portland.
• 54:57
  Speaker 14: Well, the people who had been with the organization for
• 54:59
  Speaker 14: ten or fifteen, eighteen years that lost their jobs and
• 55:02
  Speaker 14: you know some of this again, maybe they're right sizing
• 55:05
  Speaker 14: the organization. But if I'm Tom Dundon and I don't
• 55:07
  Speaker 14: want to be perceived as cheap, I'm not sure the
• 55:10
  Speaker 14: juice is worth the squeeze right here. I don't know
• 55:12
  Speaker 14: that I would have done seventy people on the business
• 55:15
  Speaker 14: side of the operation right as people are saying, you know,
• 55:18
  Speaker 14: nicknaming him El Cheapo and talking about all the other stuff.
• 55:21
  Speaker 14: I just think from an optic standpoint, in a marketing
• 55:24
  Speaker 14: and branding standpoint and messaging to potential free agents, the
• 55:28
  Speaker 14: last thing you'd want to do is say, you know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 14: we're cheap, and we're going on the cheap and we're
• 55:32
  Speaker 14: trimming and cost cutting. And so people wanted to like
• 55:35
  Speaker 14: Tom Dundon. I want to write nice things and say
• 55:38
  Speaker 14: nice things about him, especially in the wake of Jody
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: and Burt. You know, I don't want to be like, oh,
• 55:43
  Speaker 14: you know, we complain about Jody and Burt, now we're
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: complaining about Tom Dundon. But you want to like the guy,
• 55:48
  Speaker 14: but he has given us nothing in his first month
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: as the owner, just nothing to hang on to.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: John Canzono joining us, flipping over the college athletics world,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: your wheelhouse, giving you fastballs for that. Let me start
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: with this. What is the ruling with the Mountain West
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Conference in the PAC twelve being the settlement they came
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: up to, what does that mean?
• 56:09
  Speaker 14: Well, these I think we all thought it was headed
• 56:11
  Speaker 14: to a settlement. You've got the Mountain West. You got
• 56:13
  Speaker 14: a lot of bad feelings there. The top five schools
• 56:15
  Speaker 14: in the Mountain West all left. They left of the
• 56:17
  Speaker 14: PAC twelve. There was the coaching penalty allegation. Mountain West says, hey,
• 56:21
  Speaker 14: yous fifty five million dollars you weren't supposed to steal
• 56:24
  Speaker 14: our teams as part of an agreement you signed in
• 56:26
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty four. PAC twelve signed that agreement willingly and
• 56:29
  Speaker 14: then later said well it was illegal. So there's fifty
• 56:33
  Speaker 14: five million in that lawsuit. Then there's the exit fees
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: for the five departing schools the Mountain West Conference. Ironically,
• 56:40
  Speaker 14: their exit fee formula is tied to league revenues, and
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: so when Boise State made the college football playoff in
• 56:47
  Speaker 14: San Diego State made the national championship game in the
• 56:50
  Speaker 14: NCAA Tournament, all of a sudden, the exit fee bloated
• 56:54
  Speaker 14: from eighteen million a school to twenty one million per
• 56:57
  Speaker 14: school according to the formula. So the Mountain West, we've
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: had feelings, wanted twenty one million dollars from those each
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: of those five departing schools. So you got about one
• 57:05
  Speaker 14: hundred and sixty million dollars total that the Mountain West
• 57:09
  Speaker 14: thought it could collect and then distribute to UNLV and
• 57:11
  Speaker 14: Air Force and everybody else to keep them happy. And
• 57:14
  Speaker 14: of course the PAC twelve suit and then those five
• 57:16
  Speaker 14: schools said, we're not paying you. We want to negotiate that,
• 57:19
  Speaker 14: and you know those fees are meant to be negotiated.
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: But here's what it comes down to. The Mountain West
• 57:25
  Speaker 14: had a was compelled by the judge in Northern District
• 57:28
  Speaker 14: in the Bay Area in California, was compelled to turn
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: over email correspondents among the presidents keep that in mind,
• 57:36
  Speaker 14: because it's important. Email correspondence, text correspondence between the Mountain
• 57:41
  Speaker 14: West presidents was going to be revealed on Tuesday as
• 57:44
  Speaker 14: part of discovery in court. Now there's a settlement that
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: comes down on Monday. Every attorney I talked with said,
• 57:51
  Speaker 14: there's something in that filing. There's something in that discovery
• 57:55
  Speaker 14: that the Mountain West did not want public. And I'll
• 57:57
  Speaker 14: go one further. Keep in mind, those five members that
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: departed were all on those email chains and are now
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: part of the PAC twelve. So I have to believe
• 58:08
  Speaker 14: that the PAC twelve knew what was in that discovery,
• 58:11
  Speaker 14: because the PAC twelve was saying all along, we're not
• 58:13
  Speaker 14: going to pay a dime. And I can only guess
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: that there may have been some scuttle but between the
• 58:18
  Speaker 14: presidents about that poaching penalty not being enforceable, not being legal,
• 58:24
  Speaker 14: being a violation of anti trust. Very well could be
• 58:27
  Speaker 14: that there's a smoking gun in that discovery that forced
• 58:29
  Speaker 14: the Mountain West to kind of come to the table
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: and settle. Now, you talk about one hundred and sixty
• 58:34
  Speaker 14: million dollars. PAC twell wanted this done too. They're starting business.
• 58:38
  Speaker 15: On July one.
• 58:39
  Speaker 14: They don't want it hanging overhead whether they're starting their
• 58:41
  Speaker 14: first season, so they're motivated as well. And by the way,
• 58:44
  Speaker 14: everybody's got risk if this goes to trial, so you
• 58:47
  Speaker 14: know you've got control of this. On Monday, you have
• 58:50
  Speaker 14: the Pack twelve attorneys, you have the Mountain West attorneys
• 58:52
  Speaker 14: who were just billing, billing, billin millions of dollars in
• 58:56
  Speaker 14: legal fees so far. And I think you just had
• 58:59
  Speaker 14: sort of an inflection point on Monday where the Mountain
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: West said, we're ready to make a deal. The PAC
• 59:03
  Speaker 14: twelve said, good, we are too, and I would expect that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 14: You know, I had an attorney telling me that in
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: a settlement, both sides often walk away unhappy, and I'm
• 59:13
  Speaker 14: trying to figure out what the unhappy number is for
• 59:15
  Speaker 14: both sides, and I keep coming up with about seventy
• 59:18
  Speaker 14: seven million dollars is my over under. I'm gonna go
• 59:21
  Speaker 14: seventy seven seventy seven point five million as my over
• 59:25
  Speaker 14: under when these numbers leak for the total package that
• 59:28
  Speaker 14: the Mountain West gets, So it's good. I think they're
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: gonna get just under half of what they expected. I
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: think the PAC twelve won't be happy, won't be thrilled
• 59:35
  Speaker 14: with that because it's seventy seven million dollars. But I
• 59:38
  Speaker 14: think the Mountain West is also not gonna be happy
• 59:40
  Speaker 14: because it's only seventy seven million dollars, and so you
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: know the bottom line, and like, shouldn't these two conferences
• 59:47
  Speaker 14: be working together a little better now? I'm moving forward,
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: like they're stronger together having each other's backs. They're kind
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: of in the same soup if you think about.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: It, they are, And it was I think that bridge
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: was burned when the Mountain West did what they did
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: in terms of scheduling and the scheduling part of it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: and all that went south. A couple of years ago,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: John Canzano with me when someone asked you, John from
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: back East when you're doing a radio hit for someone
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: in in Big ten country or SEC country, ACC country,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: et cetera, and they say, John, I don't know this
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: new PAC twelve. There's eight eight football teams. There's nine
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: teams for all sports, not including football. With you throw
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Gonzag in there, it just it. You know, what's your
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: perception of what the new PAC twelve will be led
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: by Teresa Gould?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 14: I think you know, back in the day, we used
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 14: to say you know, hey, the PAC twelve was only
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 14: USC or maybe Washington or Oregon in a good year,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 14: and that was the PAC twelve. You know, you're judged
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 14: on your best teams by by and large, and so
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 14: I think it really does become important for the PAC
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 14: twelve that the conference champion gets into the playoff this year.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 14: I think I think that would be the big victory
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 14: for the PAC twelve. But the bigger picture, the broader picture,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 14: doesn't just include the PAC twelve. I think it includes
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 14: the Big twelve in the ACC, all the group of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 14: six conferences. I think they're all looking over at the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 14: Big ten in the SEC wondering what they're going to do.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 14: Fox in ESPN are driving a lot of this because
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 14: those are the media partners of the Big ten in
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 14: the SEC. And I think there's going to be another
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 14: point of inflection here where all these other conferences kind
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 14: of look over at the Big ten and SEC and go, Okay,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 14: if you want to run away with this, go ahead,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 14: we'll form our own thing. So I think there's just
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 14: right now this real importance in the PAC twelve footprint
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 14: to take care of your business. Win every football game
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 14: you can win, you know, invest in your brand try
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 14: to you know, when Washington and Washington State play, that's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 14: an important game for Washington State to show they belong
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 14: on the field with Washington. Like it's there's just a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 14: lot of little things that are going to happen. I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 14: think in the next two or three seasons that all
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 14: sort of formulate this picture of what the PAC twelve
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 14: is national. But I do think if San Diego State
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 14: or Boise State, or Oregon State or Washington State gets
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 14: into the playoffs and you know, we look up and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 14: you know, let's say Washington doesn't make it, Utah doesn't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 14: make it, Arizona State and Arizona don't make it, Callen
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 14: Stanford aren't there. I do think there's going to be
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 14: a measure of you know, respect and credibility given to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 14: that conference champion from the PAC twelve that that sort
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 14: of fought for relevancy and fought for a position. And
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 14: oh wait a minute, how often is Arizona, Arizona State, Stanford,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 14: cal Utah. How often are they getting to the playoffs.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 14: It's possible that Washington State and Oregon State have a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 14: better path.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I got one more thing for you. I want to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: play this because and you may have probably did see it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: It's a short sound by this Jamie Pollard, who is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: the Iowa State athletic director, Big twelve team, Iowa State
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: athletic director with all this stuff about college football playoff
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: and the Big Ten and the SEC trying to dictate
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen. As John just mentioned, this is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Iowa State's athletic director, Jamie Pollard, when asked about the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Big Ten and the SEC threatening to do their own thing.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, I said it three years ago there, let
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: them break away.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: I'd say I would turn it around and say we
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: should break away from them, let them go, you know,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: but they have to go in all their sports and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: see how fun it is to play baseball and softball
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: and track when it's just the twenty of you, you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: And that's what I think we should do.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: So he later clarified, he just said, hey, look, you know,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I at some point we've got to you know, the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: part of it was the enforcement of the new NIL
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: rules and things which are lack of enforcement right now.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: We're seeing and all that. But John, when you hear
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: a guy like that say that, and you mentioned the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: TV networks dictate everything, are we ever headed to SEC
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Big ten only, and if that, if that happened, it
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: would have to be what Jamie Poller said, right and say,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: we're not playing you. If I'm a Big ten team
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: or a Big twelve team, an ACC team, You're on
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: your own. You're on your own for everything. Could that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: ever happen?
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  Speaker 14: I think that should have happened. Three years ago when
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 14: the CFP revenue distributions were being negotiated, Mike Aresco was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 14: the former Commissioner of the American He had very similar
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 14: messaging at that time. He was saying that, hey, look,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 14: we have strength in numbers. There are more members in
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 14: the Group of Six, the Big twelve and the ACC
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 14: than there are in the SEC. In Big ten. It's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 14: a numbers game. And you don't just have number of universities.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 14: You've got more states, which means you have more lawmakers,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 14: you have a bigger voice in the room. Are the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 14: SEC and the Big ten going to try to seek
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 14: an anti trust exemption like the NFL and negotiate and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 14: bargain collectively with athletes? Can they do that if they
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 14: are in a battle with everybody else? But I love
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 14: that mentality and I love that messaging because Look, you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 14: have to acknowledge that, Yeah, there's a difference between Ohio
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 14: State and Utah State. That is a stark difference when
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 14: it comes to funding and revenue. But some of this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 14: feels very arbitrary. I covered Purdue as a beat reporter
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 14: in the late nineties. Purdue is Oregon State, Purdue is
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: Washington State. There's no difference, you know it. And so
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 14: what are we talking about? Really, we're just talking about, Hey,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 14: some of these schools got grandfathered in, and therefore they
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 14: get twenty million dollars a year in CFP distributions, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 14: and you know San Diego State, Sorry, you only get
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 14: one point eight million. Go ahead, go compete, have fun
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 14: doing that. Over the next five years, the SEC and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 14: the big ten schools are going to get twenty million
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 14: dollars a year in distributions from the CFP, if not
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: more when it expands. And some of these other schools
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 14: are going to get one point eight million. Your TV
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: deal is going to get you seventy million, and the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: other conferences are going to get ten or fifteen million.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 14: How is how is that a thing? How is that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 14: even equitable?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: How does that?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 14: How is that in the spirit of sport and competitive balance.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 14: Like so, I do think there becomes a point where
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 14: athletic directors at places like Iowa State, Arizona State, Arizona, Utah,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 14: Stanford col and all of the Group of six, I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 14: think you have to speak up and you have to
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 14: say Okay, fine, you want to split off and act
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 14: like you're different in football, go be different everywhere else
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 14: and have fun scheduling that. And I don't even think
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 14: it's limited to like the Olympic sports and the inconvenience
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 14: that that clearly creates for those power too. But I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 14: think it goes even to football. What if nobody else
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 14: agreed to schedule them and said we're not going to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 14: play you, you go play a non conference game against
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 14: each other and have fun beating each other up and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 14: qualifying for the playoffs. That way, you're not getting easy
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 14: wins against these schools that are underfunded. Because there is
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 14: a point, you know, and I talk to some of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 14: these consultants that work for these conferences, there is a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 14: point where you look at the funding at the schools
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 14: like Ohio State getting ninety one million and distributions from
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 14: its conference, and you look at a school like Boise
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 14: State that you know, is probably looking at getting you know,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 14: ten million to eight million from their conference last year.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 14: How are these two things in the same playoffs? Like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 14: at some point there is like is it humane to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 14: have these two things competing against each other?
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff, buddy. At some point we'll get together gangs.
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• 1:07:27
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  Speaker 2: All great stuff. Appreciate John Canzano stopping by a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff to discuss there. I'm a college landscape and
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  Speaker 2: we'll maybe get into a little bit more as a
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  Speaker 2: day goes on, and maybe tomorrow that the audio that
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  Speaker 2: that I gave you jess uh with the athletic director
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: at Iowa State, Jamie Pollard, and frankly, I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: huge Iowa State Jamie Pollard fan because of how they
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: handled well, I guess I think we're better off, but
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: how they handled the whole situation with Jimmy with Yeah,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: with Jimmy Rodgers, I don't know. I think as I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: look at that stuff, I don't know how realistic it is.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I hear all the time hel Fane talks about it
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: a lot. Just break away, break away, sec big ten.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I think if you did do that, I think that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: the rama. I think it's what John said, you would
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: probably end up having to do or not having to do.
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  Speaker 2: You would probably end up in a situation where the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: rest of the country at least the other two power
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: conferences and I don't even know. I think it's really
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: almost a misnomer right now to call the Big Big
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: twelve and ACC power conferences. They have money, more money
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: than the non than the Group of six conferences. Sure,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: but I think it's almost a misnomer because they're not
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: in the same category power money wise as the Big
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: ten in the SEC. But I think the ACC and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: the Big twelve would have to leave the charge, and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: so would everybody else and say we're done, we're not
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: playing you.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know how realistic that is, and I don't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: think anybody can answer that how realistic it is, because
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: there's revenue attached. It's why we still play Apple Cup football.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: It is interesting there's no Apple Cup basketball game schedule
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: for this year. I don't know if you know that.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: There's like they have not scheduled that.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: I heard it.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if that was that they have not
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: scheduled that.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if they will or not. They
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: still certainly still could. There's been changes already the schedule.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I saw today that a Gonzaga gave Kentucky the middle finger.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: They're cutting off their home and home that they've been
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: doing for the last time.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Mark Mark few has always been in that category.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Well, like marksh you's smart enough to know he doesn't
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: need to anymore, right Like they play enough tough teams
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: in the non conference and they just and honestly, I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: think Mark, I think the reason Mark you did is
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: because the new PAC twelve, the conference basketball wise, is
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: going to be significantly more challenging than it was in
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: the WCC. San Diego State good basketball pro, Boise State,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: good basketball program, Utah State really good basketball like really
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: good basketball program, Colorado State really good basketball program.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, they're only going to keep getting better.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: In fact that I look through here is the new
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: PAC twelve in basketball Fresno State, San Diego State, Boise State, Wazoo,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Texas State, Utah State, Callio State, Oregon State, Gonzaga. Out
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: of all those schools, I think Texas State and Fresno
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: State are the only two that haven't been to the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament in the last five years. Remember Ogon State
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: had that great run yep with Tinkle was Wazoo ended
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: up going three years ago. The other schools have all
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: been in it recently, So yeah, I think that's why
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: he said I don't need Kentucky. I needed them when
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: I was in the WCC. But I think for it
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: for it to work, as as Jamie Poller SAIDs for
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: it to work, I think you would have to just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: say we're going to cut you off the knees and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: so your non conference games are not going to be
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: against a pack are non power file. It's not gonna
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: be against out of State or Utah State. Your non
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: conference game is gonna against be against Vanderbilt. It's going
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: to be against I'm thinking like lower rung teams in
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: those Minnesota whatever you're gonna be playing, that will be
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: your non conference schedule. Now maybe the networks would love that, maybe,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: but maybe not because like you look at Week one
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: this year in college football, it's awful, Like it's it's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: an awful schedule Week one, like they're the first week
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: or something antifl. When it comes to this game, it's, yeah,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: it's there's some really bad games, Like even even Fox,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: if I'm Fox, I'm not happy because the Big ten
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: games that you have to choose from, there's nothing in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: there that's that's worth it down to be honest with you.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: In fact, I think the Apple Cup might be one
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: of the better games, at least on paper. And I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: don't know how competitive that game is going to be.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I don't know. Maybe we'll be
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: no idea. We have no idea. We have no idea
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: what he's got going on over there. So I don't know.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: There's a lot. There's so much change coming. And we
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: did even get into the are we going to a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: sixteen team playoff or we go into a twenty four
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: team playoff. There's a great thing about that is there's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: a battle between the SEC and the Big Ten as
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: far as the playoff numbers. The Big Ten wants to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: twenty four. The SEC wants to go either keep it
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: at twelve or go to fourteen or sixteen. Why is that?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Because the SEC is affiliated with ESPN. ESPN doesn't want
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: to give up any games to Fox, Fox, and the
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Big Ten. They want a bigger field because then at
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: that point ESPN can't handle them all and they would
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: have to ship off some college football playoff games to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: ESPN would have to ship them off to Fox. Then
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: you run into this issue losing conference championship games, which
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: is interesting because Ryan Day, the Ohio State coach, who
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: has juice like, he's one of those guys that has juice.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: He says, hey, man, I'm all in like like, look,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: get rid of the conference championship game Michigan Ohio stateiums
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: up being the biggest game of the year. It's the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: end of the game. Then we go with the playoffs
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: after that, let's go. I don't like, I don't need
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: a conference championship game. And if you look at it
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: for the bigger schools, for those two conferences, conference championship
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: game hasn't made meant much now. It did last year
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: in the SEC, if Alabama would have won, they would
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: have been in the playoff, but Georgia was already again
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: and in the Big Ten the College the conference championship
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: game meant nothing in terms of the college football playoff.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stuff going on right now.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: The greed, the power plays in battles between the SEC
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Then when you get the Big twelve
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: and the ACC involved, it's the changing dynamics. And part
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: of that has to do with how the NIL is
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: being governed. I long for the days of the old
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: PAC twelve. I missed those days. I grew up with
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: the Pac eight, Pac ten, then Pac twelve. I missed
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: the rivalries. I miss seeing those schools. I don't the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: revenue is honestly to be The revenue is kind of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: the furthest thing from my mind in that regard. We've
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: always been a small revenue school. That's I just miss that.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I just miss that, and we're never going to get
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: it back unless there's a complete collapse or overhaul. And
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that'll happen. But there's just
• 1:14:57
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  Speaker 2: Game one Western Conference Finals, Vegas and Colorado. God two
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  Speaker 2: teams I absolutely don't want to win. But then I
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  Speaker 2: really don't want Carolina to win the Stanley Cup because
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  Speaker 2: of Dundon. It's all about Montreal right now. Eastern Conference Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: No whalers with the Carolina. We don't want Carolina. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want them to win. That's Tom Dundon's team.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no wonder they left.
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  Speaker 2: Here's who I don't want to win. Carolina. They moved
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: from Hartford and Dundon owns them. Colorado moved from Quebec
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  Speaker 2: City and it's Denver. We don't like Denver or anything.
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  Speaker 4: So this is a puke situation.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: But Vegas is a bunch of cheaters.
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  Speaker 4: Yeap with another Puke.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I do kind of like Tors though, I do kind
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: of like Tords, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: He was my favorite person when I started this career
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: in ESPN. He was still the guy who was giving
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: those insane press conference.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: God, yeah, Brooks, he just died. The New York Post
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• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: and he was so much fun. God, he was fun.
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  Speaker 2: But he got fine. Hundre gand because he don't want
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: to talk after the Anaheim game anyway, Tonight Colorado Vegas
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: game one five o'clock quick tease before I gave you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: the notes on on tonight's game and why you want
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: to watch it. One reason would be because you don't
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: want to watch the NBA game because it involves the Pukes.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: But tomorrow at twelve twenty, I always made a couple
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: of cameos on the morning show. My guy Edzo's on tomorrow. Yeah,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Gaby Old checks on tomorrow at twelve twenty, and we'll
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: talk a little Stanley Cup playoffs. But I'm gonna kind
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: of let him go cracking offs. Just I'm just cracking
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: off season, go shit back.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: That's why I love those guests.
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  Speaker 2: Edzo is an absolute beauty. We love him, not afraid
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: to tell you what he's thinking, and we'll get him
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: on tomorrow. He's doing I believe the Eastern Conference games
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: today can say he's traveling today, so I'm assuming he's
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: doing Carolina Montreal on TMT okay, and I think John
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Forte is actually not with Benton tomorrow with Bento, So
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: all right tonight Game one. First of all, Standy Cup
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: play has been phenomenal so far, top five in the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: history of the league in terms of games that have
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: gone to overtime to this point in the playoffs through
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: the first two rounds, eighteen overtime games so far, twenty
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: six times so far this year in the playoffs, we've
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: had games that have had a good a game time
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: or game winnings, goal scored in the final half of
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: the third period. I mean, it's it's been remarkable. It's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: the second highest rate of close games in the history
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: of the NHL playoffs they have. It has just been
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: sensational in terms of close games, drama, things you don't
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: expect to see except I mean, it's just been sensational.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: So we're excited about that tonight Colorado is without Cale
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: mccarr If he's not the best player in the series,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon would be, but he'd be number two, and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: he may be number one depending on I'm that's a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: weird one.
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  Speaker 7: Day to day.
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  Speaker 2: He's skated this morning, wild accounts look good, but he's out.
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  Speaker 2: Just it's the dreaded upper body injury.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, it's either upper or lower. I do appreciate it though.
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  Speaker 3: The way hockey does it is for a reason, just
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: because the way they're so vague is because you can
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  Speaker 3: target guys.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm surprised with is that in today's
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  Speaker 2: day and age, and when I say today's age, of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: these leagues all being in bed with betting sites and gambling,
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  Speaker 2: you know, DraftKings, fan Duel, MGM, Caesars whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, if you watch I watched the games for
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: the most part, unless Ed, Zoe and Johnny are doing them,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I'll watch CBC. Out of Canada, they've got like four
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  Speaker 2: different things they use up there for online betting on
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  Speaker 2: your phone and everything else. Obviously it's illegal here. You
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: encourage you go to snow call me casino if that's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: your thing. But in the day, in the day and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: age of of all that stuff that's going on. I'm
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: surprised that they haven't made it more specific, like in
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: the NFL, you can't duck and hide from injuries.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's like an age old thing with them.
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  Speaker 2: But it's because of the gambling element. It's one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent because of that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and fantasy football has been around.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't cage, but that would be caring
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: about the fan. It's readily apparent that they don't care
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: about the average fan. I think that's well established.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: That league expensive.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Ticket leagues don't. Leagues don't care about the fans, but
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: they do care about their partners who spend money in
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: corporate money, and that's yes. Can you imagine if the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Seahawks put out the injury report, Let's see Charles Cross
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: questionable lower body, Let's see Nick emon Worri doubtful upper body.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Like with no specifics, they you can't do that. Vanchil
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: is allowed to do it. So I like it that
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: it is kind of funny upper body lower body. I
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: tell the story all the time. When I was in juniors,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: I was working in Tri Cities and we had a guy,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: one of our better players had a broken wrist. And
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: we had to do because the league, the NHL drafts
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: from that league, So we had to issue injury reports
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: every week, like once a week. Just once a week
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: is all we did. And they once a week injured report.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: And I was told to put this guy's name. I said,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: They said lower body injury. He's walking around the rink,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: you know, six thousand seat rank scouts see him and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: he's got a cast on his wrist, and scouts are going,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: why'd you guys put there? He's got to lower body injury.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, cause I was told to what do you want?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they it's a body.
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  Speaker 7: Little body.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen similar things in my career.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: How many people would say, I've got upper body injuries
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: up here between the years. Okay, we're good, we'll come back.
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• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: So Game two tonight, Oklahoma City and the San Antonio
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Spurs five thirty peacock NBC. Again, I'll be watching a
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: hockey game. But you do you you watch what you
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  Speaker 2: want to watch. The Pukes are actually fit everybody seven
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  Speaker 2: and a half of that game. They are got the
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  Speaker 2: the way you go. But I'm gonna and I'll be
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• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you right now, my plan is not to
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  Speaker 4: Your plan.
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  Speaker 2: My plan is not to watch a second, if if
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  Speaker 2: I if that changes, it will be a sports confession tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: My plan is I will probably after the hockey game.
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  Speaker 2: If the hockey game is over or blowout or not,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no Manners game tonight, obviously I would be
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: more inclined to see what Dick Fane and a lista
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• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: through the misery of watching the Pukes and the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: Although I love Wemby.
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  Speaker 4: M I'll watch it just to see him play.
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  Speaker 2: But if I I'll be honest with you tomorrow and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: report back, it'll be a sports confession if I do.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: But my plan right now is not to okay, So again,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I scratched it for some of this a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: But I was listening to Softy and Fan on Monday
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Debates because I guess last Friday Jackson and Jackson and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Dick were doing the show. Softy was off last Friday,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: and Dick brought up the you know Sam Presty love affair,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: and this is how you build a team and all
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: those things and and blah blah blah, and be a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: good blueprint for what Seattle does when we get the
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  Speaker 2: NBA here and that kind of sent Softy sideways, rightfully,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: so because you know it's it's Oklahoma City. First of all,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: without a question, Sam Presty is a genius. He's twenty nine.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: When he was hired here failed the first time to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: win a title. He's talked about that when he had
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: the you know Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell Westbrooks or
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Jebacca Group twenty eleven got the finals, they didn't. They
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: were on the CUSP. Now they're on the cusp, but
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: winning consecutive titles. He's put this team back together very
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: John Schneider like in a sense. You know, a team
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: that went to the finals not too long ago. Now
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Schneider obviously won one and lost one with the Legion
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: of Boom Team and Russ and be smowing everybody like that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: So it was a little bit different, but kind of
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: like Schneider in the NFL, put a team back together
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: from scratch, built a team which you have to respect.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I hate them with a passion, but you have to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: respect the job that Presty did, or I would kind
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: of beg to differ a little bit with faine Is.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: But this is also something you can ask yourself, when
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: we do get a team here, you're gonna the way
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City was built. They made an incredible trade for SGA.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: They also acquired a first round pick from the Clippers.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: They just fleeced the picker the Clipper with the Paul
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: George trade, they get Chris Paul. They moved, They did
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of maneuvering. They also effectively tanked for two
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: years and finished fourteenth out of fifteen teams in the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Western Conference. And one of those years resulted in the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: drafting of Cheded Holmgren, who's arguably their second or third
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: best player, and in this series against Wenby is probably
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: their second best and most important player because you need
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: length to defend him and Homer and gives you that
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: out of Gonzaga. So they did that, and they also
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: they didn't win the lottery. Paulo Ben Carroll went and
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: won that year to Orlando, but they got Homegren two.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: So they also did it in a year which there
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: was a couple impact guys in that NBA draft. We're
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: going to be starting from scratch. We're going to be
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: starting from scratch here. We're not starting with you know,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: however much of a base we have, we're going to
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: get after thoughts has beens, bad salaries. Whatever you end
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: up with in the expansion draft, that's what you're gonna
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: end up with.
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  Speaker 7: Here.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: The problem in the NBA, in terms of if you
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: want to call it tanking or however you want to
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: look at it, is kind of like the NHL when
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: people tell me all the time, while the crack and
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: just need to strip it down and build it back
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: up and rebuild and go through a rebuild. Well, in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: any sport, rebuilds are somewhat hard to do because there's
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: a bit of luck involved. Where's your draft picking end
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: up through the lottery.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a lottery, and let's say do the David
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: cern frozen envelope.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: What does the lottery look like that year? In terms
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: of players? Now this year that this year in the NBA,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: it kind of made sense between the bonsa Acuff, Junior,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Peterson Boozer. I mean you go through the list, this
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: is an incredible NBA draft. This year like a really
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: good draft. So it makes like this year, if you say, listen,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: worst case scenario, we get the fourth or fifth pick,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: We're going to get an impact player that isn't the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: case every year. But I ask you, like, do we
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: really want to see this team that comes to Seattle,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: which is probably not going to be very good anyway,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: try to become even worse before they get better and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: make it a five, six, seven year plan. Bob witzit
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: said to Softy and Fame when they had him on
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: last week or two weeks ago, that he thinks this
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: team could be really good within three or four years. Okay,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: I'd rather do that than go through six or seven
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: years of hell. Yeah, but it's just it's apples and
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: oranges trying to compare what they did to what you
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: may do with an expansion team. That's my first issue.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: My second issue, though, is this, And this is probably
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: more internal, and I guess this is wrong. I want
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: to hear from you. Are they still kind of in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: your head? Are you like me? And you in Softy
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: is the same way I heard him say this yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I can't even say that.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I can't watch No, you can't watch them, can't watch him,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: can't watch.
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  Speaker 4: Them even though it's a completely different team.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: Did a great question, di cead a great they're getting
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: be Yeah, if I getting beat by twenty I might
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: turn it on but by then it's why why am
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I watching it? At that point? Either for the first
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: however many years, I honestly found myself looking at Oklahoma
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: City kind of like I look at say Washington football
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: or even Washington basketball, kind of like a lot of
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: U Husky fans look at Oregon football, where I spent
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: way too much time and energy watching, investing myself emotionally
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: and rooting against that particular team that I hate. I
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: found myself doing that way too often with the Thunder
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: all the time. I was doing that every playoff series.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the highlights since the Sonics left
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: of being an NBA fan is when Damian Loward knocked
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: him out of the playoffs at that you know from
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: the logo three from center court in the playoff series
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: for the Blazers and in wave goodbye to them. That
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: was awesome. But there's far too many times I just
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: I found myself just too emotionally invested. I've tuned them
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: out the last few years. Even last year when they
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: won it, I was bummed, but I didn't really it
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: didn't get to me like it would have maybe five, six, seven,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: eight years ago. This year, I'm being sucked back in
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit, because back to back is a whole
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: different that's a whole different beast. We know how hard
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: it is in the NFL. We know how hard it
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: is for the Seahawks. They came close two yard line.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: They all have a chance to do it again this
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: year in the hardest division in the NFL, winning back
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: to back is really hard. They're kind of making it
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: look easy, and that bothers me. I'll be one hundred,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: it bothers me. So they kind of still live a
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: little bit in my head. They kind of still live
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: up there a little bit, and it bugs me. I
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: wish that wasn't the case.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: You know what, admitt it's like admitting it. Admitting the
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: problem is the first.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe that is I just can't. I just can't do it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: Though I can't do it. If the Spurs knock them out,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: I'll be happy. I won't feel the same as when
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Loward knocked them out in Portland, but I'll be happy.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: I just can't do it. I can't watch it, can't
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: do it. They were in double overtime or yeah, double
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: overtime in Game one. I know it's a great game,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: couldn't flip it over couldn't, couldn't force myself to do it.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: But do they just do you watch it?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all due respect, Jess, I don't think you
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: have the same emotional attachment. No, I don't. You weren't
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: here when the Sonics were here, and so it's a little.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: Came right after they left. Yeah, I saw the hole
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: that left, you know, the hole, you feel the hole
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: attached to them, right that everyone did.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Like many of us did. It's also a different era too,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of fans that a lot of
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: people listening right now that weren't old enough to really
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: remember much about the Sonics. They don't have that emotional
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: attachment to the Sonics. And if you're watching Oklahoma City again,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: painful to admit that they're a fun team to watch.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: SGA's hell of a player. I mean that's that's that's
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: that's just an honest truth. Yeah, Jalen with an l
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: good player. So yeah, that that part of it is hard.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: But four nine four five one or says talkback. I
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: have to just go so many of that, Well, get
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: some more then fire away. We'll get those thoughts from
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: you as well. Uh, It's just it's the love hate
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: relationship I probably would say I have with the NBA,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: and it is a love hate relationship. It's it's hard
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: to it's hard to understand, hard to understand. I can't
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: even wrap my own arms around it, to be honest
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: with you, all right, John Canzono joined us earlier today
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: and we talked about Kanzon. We talked with Kanzon about
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: a number of things, including the new ownership in Portland.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: We are going to get the NBA back. I'm convinced
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: to that. I'm convinced this coming up in two years.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: But this league has some weird things going on with
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: it right now, ownership being one of them. I asked
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: them about Tom Done and if you missed it, yesterday,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: the Blazers laid off seventy people. It's about fifteen twenty
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: percent of the workforce.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe I think you did the math yesterday.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Hang on, I'll tell you right now. Let me let
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: me do the math.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: I think you said that they were about one hundred
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: and No, I was wrong.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: I was wrong. Let's see you hang on. You know what,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: sometimes calculators can't be your friend.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: They force your brain to stop.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Twenty around twenty two to twenty three percent of the world.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: That's huge percentage.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's people that say it's bloated and this
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: and that. I always do laugh when people say, oh,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: you know that that organization was bloated or that company
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: was bloated. You're not the one that lost the job.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: You work in sports, you're a lot of times doing
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: it for the passion and for the love and also
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: putting in hours that are just unimaginable because you're working
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: every game. So and trust me, I just I just
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: know what our guys put in with the Craken. They're
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: there at nine o'clock in the morning, they're there nine
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: am and they're watching it and they're working, and then
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: they'll go do the game. They work the game that night.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: It's hard, it's hard work. You're doing it because you
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: love the game and you're passionate. So I would never
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: ever diminish somebody losing their job, especially for something like that.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: But here's Canzona. Because the new owner of the Blazers,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: who doesn't have the money to own the team, is
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: not highly thought of as an owner in the NHL.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: They only own eighty percent of the team right now.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: They got two years to find the rest of the funding.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: My question is that they're gonna let this guy in
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: the league. Like, what is this guy all about? It
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: scares me?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 14: With the team coming here, Well, I think he wants
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 14: Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let's
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 14: just pretend for a minute that his ultimate motive is
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 14: not to move the team. Let's just let's just let's
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 14: start with that as a premise. If that's your motive,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 14: then if what I think Tom Dundan is doing is
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 14: he's creating the fear of that bordability, the fear of
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 14: moving the team in order to get the new arena
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 14: that he wants, in order to get the city to
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 14: bend over backwards and give him renovations if not new arena.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 14: You know, maybe that it's as simple as that that
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 14: Dundon knows that some uncertainty and the fear factor in
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 14: Portland and what happened in Seattle still lingers in the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 14: Pacific Northwest, that the fear factor is a crowbar that
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 14: he's wielding right now. You know, maybe that's it, But
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 14: I have to go further, because you know, I've got
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 14: other people in the NBA telling me that maybe the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 14: market for the expansion team in Seattle is not as
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 14: solid as the league thought.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe you know, the the.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 14: Idea that Dundon could move the team potentially to to
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 14: Seattle becomes opens up a city where, you know, Vancouver, BC.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 14: Could you get could you get eight billion for an
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 14: expansion team in Vancouver, BC? You know, I think you
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 14: know those those ideas are out there as well. And
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 14: and Ian, I'll tell you this. You know, I keep
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 14: wondering why Adam Silver let this guy buy the team,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 14: because think about it, he couldn't afford it. He couldn't
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 14: afford this team. He could only afford to put together
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 14: a group of ten other people. There's twelve investors total,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 14: and they could only buy eighty percent. They couldn't afford it.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 14: So or why like, how did this happen? Why did
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 14: Adam Silver let this happen? And I can only surmise
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 14: that the market for a small market team was not
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 14: robust and that the league's owners were concerned. Can we
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 14: hold that valuation for the expansion teams that we want
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 14: to get, whether it's six billion, eight billion, whatever they're
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 14: trying to get cold? If the Blazers don't sell for
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 14: above four billion, can you really justify the team in Vegas?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 14: Selling for what we need out of it, and so
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 14: I kind of wonder if they took the only decent
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 14: offer that would support sort of the valuations across the league.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 14: Sold eighty percent to Dundon, put it on lay away.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 14: The rest is on Layowa till September of twenty twenty eight.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 14: It's wild to that, you know, you only have eighty
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 14: percent of the team, But and then maybe you're just
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 14: sort of propping this up in house of cards right
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 14: now if you're the NBA. It may just be that
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 14: there wasn't a robust market for an NBA team in.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: Portland, which is an interesting dynamic. He's talked about it before.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: John was on with Softie and Faint a couple of
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, And I mean there's talk about moving Portland
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: here and making an expansion team, having expansion somewhere else,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: and things like that. And when somebody asked me earlier,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: like why would I be concerned about who owns the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: team in Seattle if it's not Sam Holloway and the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: One Roof group, Well, here's what I know about them.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: They're concerned and care about the community, They're invested in
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: the community. They just opened up these new sport courts
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: down in the South End. They invest in the community.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: They're still building the new rink over in Kirkland. Everything
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: I see from them is about care about here, Seattle
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: and western Washington, the greater Puget Sound area. Dundon doesn't
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: give a rats you know what about Portland. I don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: want an owner coming in here owning an NBA team
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: that has no connection to the community. The NFL, I'm
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: not as worried about, to be honest with you. The
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: NFL is such a turnkey. We make money, it doesn't matter.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: We're bulletproof. We do whatever we want. I don't really
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: care who owns the Seahawks, other than I hope they
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: have the same commitment to keeping the same group of
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: people in the front office on the business side who
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: do a terrific job. Like a terrific job Chuck Arnold
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: his staff in the business I do a great job.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: They're can concern. They're committed to the community, and then
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: obviously keeping the football team intact, which would make no
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: sense to making changes there and investing in the product.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: But from a basketball standpoint, that's my concern. I don't
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: want somebody coming in like Dundon that doesn't care about Seattle,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: that's not invested in Seattle. They're a cautionary tale down there. Anyway,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: we're good with them. Done with that, Moving on, all right,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: let's come back. You said we have a couple of talkbacks.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from you then four nine four five one.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: We'll check the text as well. But Jess tells me
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: we have a lot of talkbacks. We love hearing your voice.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Ask for it and I got it. All right, Well
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: and edit away. You might have some more coming in.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I am okay, some need some editing.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Jes likes to work, right, Yeah, that's what they tell me.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: She likes to actually hear you. That's she doesn't consider
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: that work.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know, never work a day in my life.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: If I get to talk to you, there you go.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll do that next.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: Today.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your Home for the Huskies,
• 1:42:47
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• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: What in the are we doing?
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 16: Could you have any more of a sub little league
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 16: management of a baseball team. I don't think it's possible
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 16: for the people who care the most about the right
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 16: he left e BS. Then you've got Rayley and Canzone
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 16: sitting there versus writing, and you leave them on the bench.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 16: This is the most amateur I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 13: And my biggest frustration is how many times are we
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 13: going to do the matchup thing? It didn't work with
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 13: tom La Stella, it didn't work with AJ Paula, it
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: didn't work with Donovan Solano, and it's clearly not working
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 13: with Rob Reth Schneider and Connor Joe. Play Luke Raley
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 13: and play Dom Canzone. They're your best player.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 6: It's that simple.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 13: They're better bats.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 7: Than those other two.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: You know I was hoping for is uh I. We'll
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: get it next up. No, so Tuesday, Tuesday? No, shean
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: right on two day. He is out next week, so
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: we'll probably do and we're off on the holiday on Monday,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: so we'll probably do molliwap Monday. On a Tuesday, we'll
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: get the update from Nathan on the Pollock AJ Pollock
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: versus what is it? The Rob Reths Sneider watch hit watch.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, we'll probably do that a sounder
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got me mice at some point.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, we'll get one of these going.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once he brings it up in the fire dining
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: that Moore. Yeah, it's perfect, okay, all right, Yeah, listen,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: not a lot of things that are doing decision wise
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: are working right now. But that's why you're four games
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: under five hundred. All right, continue, Hello.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 17: Show your question. I haven't heard a lot of this yet.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 17: Why isn't Agar Martinez a per debate? Why is he
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 17: so off limits that we can't talk about his involvement
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 17: in the hitting strategy? Isn't he like the all my
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 17: hitting coach? He's above our hitting coach. So why aren't
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 17: we questioning Martinez more?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the easy answer is he's Edgar Martinez.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: Hello, show Hello, these.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: The answers, He's Edgar Martinez. The other answer, frankly, would
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: be it's I mean him and him and sites are
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: both kind of involved. I listen, the offense is an
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: issue at times. One hit in two of the last
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: three games. That's not the case today. But they're not
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: winning today either, so but part of it then you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: I'd say, well, does he get credit for JP Crawford
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: having a strong start, who are having a strong start,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Luke Ralely having a strong start, Cole Young playing Well,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: there's two sides of that coin, right, Yeah, all right,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: it's me again.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 16: This is something nobody's mentioned and it might not mean anything,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 16: but something that I just cannot stand how many Dan
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 16: Wilson says yeah no in its postgames.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, Dan, we don't know. Nobody knows what
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: you're doing. Nobody can tell what you're doing.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 18: Oh, what do you mean you know?
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 16: He said yeah, no, fifty seven times in that postgame.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: What okay, I'm sorry. I want the kind of time
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: that man has on his hands to be able.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: To count that.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: You know, do we really know it was fifty seven?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: We had two people texting. One person said fifty seven
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: and another said, of it to fifty nine.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: I do like the fact that they it would have
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: been better for fifty four. Oh but if it was
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: fifty four, that would have in fact tasting.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: Maybe he threw in a couple just to make sure
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: it wasn't.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: You never know, he didn't know the rules about switching
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: a picture. I don't think he would have been that
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: cognizant of that we have any more. Yeah, all right,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: fire away.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 11: And you're resident Blazer fan here checking in before John
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 11: Kinzong comes on. If he doesn't make me feel any
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 11: better during his segment, I am just going to what
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 11: about spiral out of control? The Blazers leave Portland, go
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 11: to Seattle or whatever?
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: Done? O, Please don't.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: I don't want to not have a team. I don't
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: want to spiral out.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 19: Often by spiral out of control, I mean, I don't
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 19: want the Seattle Super Blazers or any other name you
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 19: want to make up.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 8: I just, oh my god, my blood pressure is rising.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 7: Please don't do it. Don't do it.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: You don't want to do it.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: Please don't do it.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: Please don't move. Okay, I don't blame depress. I don't
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: blame you. That was before Kansa. I don't think Canzano's
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: conversation made him feel any better today. Let's if that
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: would be my guess. It didn't, that'd be my guess.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: All right, you told me there's more.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 14: Yeah, all right, Ay, Ian this morning chucking his gang.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, chuck in his gang.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 18: Anyhow, we're talking about the little trial thing that Wilson
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 18: did with a piggyback, piggyback, Yeah, and that it wasn't
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 18: a horrible thing. And was it said, I believe if
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 18: the bats would have shown up there, you wouldn't have
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 18: had such a terrible ending.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Well, sure, right, that's true. The problem is they didn't,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: so you had a one run game going into it. Yeah,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: but you had a one run game going to the
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: ninth inning.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: I do I.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Know what Chuck's I think what Chuck is saying, and
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: I would agree with him, is that through eight innings
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: it worked fine. Ninth inning, Either stick with cast now,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Chuck said this, I would my thought.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Either stick with Castile. Yeah, he walked a guy, hit
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: a guy, but then struck out the next guy one away,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: two on, stay with him instead Munnos rushed to get
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: up and no wiggle room. The other part about Munyos
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: is remember he just did a horrible job, him and
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Garber holding the runners on the two guys. Double steel,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming. Yeah right, that was the difference.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: It was like the defensive side of pitching.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: You could make an argument that the piggyback was fine
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: for a while and then just blew up in your face.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: I was still disappointed when they took Rose out.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that part, I agree with you.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: Jessin all right, he's been fine.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: We have a couple more of so I'm okay. Continue.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 20: Hey Eganan, it's Lou.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 20: You know I could manage uh a hell lot better
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 20: than Danny can and uh and yet I'm here, you know,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 20: taking care of taking taking care of Nita's little dogs
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 20: and and nothing else. Get me up there, you can
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 20: hit me up there. I can take care of business.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: It's Lou, all right, thanks, Egan. Ian all the same.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: I mean it's probably an accent.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: It's it's Ian Egan.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: He didn't call me sir. Usually would call you sir.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: It wasn't that a condescending sir?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Though, depending on who he said it to. Yeah, it's like.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: There's some guys that when I'm called ma'am.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I think if you said it to
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Bob Finigan from the Times, it was condescending. I think
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: you said to Greg John's it wasn't. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just guessing here.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: I like Phineas Buddy man.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: I love you can tell though.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Curmudgeon Phinney was the Sale Times only highest Curmudgeons to
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: be there, beat writers for the for the Mariners, and
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: again Diavish. Yeah, it's just how it works, all right.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: We have one more? Two more? Okay, Oh, here we
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: go Ian.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, the NBA has been dead to me since the
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 15: Sonics left town. I could give a flying flip, but
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 15: what Oklahoma does or doesn't do. I am out of
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 15: the NBA until a team returns here. And I was
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 15: a Sonic season ticket holder for seventeen years.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: He's in your boat one more?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this one made me tackle in here and jest.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 21: Chip here if I was drowning, and I use my
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 21: last bit of energy to spring up, and I was
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 21: seconds away from death and miraculously felt a hand grab
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 21: mine and start to pull me up. And I looked
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 21: up and saw that that person was wearing thunder gear.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 21: I'd say no, thank you and go back down and drown,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 21: because that experience is preferable than having anything to do
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 21: with anything to do with the thunder.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, jet over thunder. I guess yeah. Could we
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: make that a slogan?
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 7: Could?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: No, that is promoting self harm?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a lot of people saying the same thing.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Cannot I will not watch then North the NBA unless
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: they're playing the Sonics in the near future. Somebody actually
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: said a good discussion today with John Technically Schultz moved
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: the team to seven to seventy. He was still the
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: owner when it happened. Was bizarre. No, he didn't.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: Know.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 7: He didn't.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: It was because I came here in two thousand and six.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: That's when Clinton Bennett bought the team. Why did I
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: come here, jess? Why did he didn't come here to
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: do the night show? Why was that because David Locke
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: I've locked on, I've locked on, was doing the Sonics radio.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: He was here, he's on seven to seven. Then they
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: moved him. Yes, he wasn't on kjar anymore. Yeah, that's
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: why I came here, because he wasn't on kJ kjar
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: anymore after the two thousand and five two thousand and six.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: Well, that's where our business works.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: You know, when a space opens, then we get opportunities,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: and sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes it's not.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: Yep. The Sonics are so far gone the NBA such crap.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: They just don't care if they ever come back.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 8: Wow mm.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Nah, And even the son back will still miss the Sonics.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: This NBA isn't the same game. The personality of the
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: players is not interesting. There will never be an x Man,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: rain Man, the Glove Wizard, Gus Williams, Downtown, Freddy Brown,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Big smooth. The basketball's gone, replaced by rich, soft players
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: who flop and turn basketball in the shooting competition with
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: the three point line SAFTI smells like fish.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, still don't get that one, do I.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: What I will say though, is that from what I've
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: seen from the basketball legacy that was left here in
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: the wake of the Sonics departure, I think those guys
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: will be around, you know, similarly how we've seen you know,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: your Michael Bennett's, Richard Sherman's, Marshall Lynches show up.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: For the Seahawks.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, they'll be around.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: You'll see Gary, You'll see Sean, Don't I see Freddie
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: at Downtown, Freddy Brown at Mariners game?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: Sometimes?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be around. Okay, they will, and they be playing.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's just they won't but they can leave
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: it a personality imprint. I think he was talking about
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: the style of basketball that.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: We're seeing now.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if they allow and welcome in that old
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: school Thrasher style of NBA play. If they allow those
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: guys to be around and imprint the young team that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: we hopefully will see you within the next couple of years.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: Right, I think we might see a cool style.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do believe that. I don't know if the
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: game's better or worse. That's a topic for a different day.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: I do know that the players are more athletic, bigger, stronger, faster.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: You know, we're seeing guys that are seven feet tall
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: do things that no one ever did at seven feet
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: tall before. I mean, but even just you see guys
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: that are seven feet that aren't. Zaki is a great example.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: And Zakie he came out of Perdue a year ago. Like,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, can that guy play in the NBA. Well,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago he would have the top pick in
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: the draft. Back to the basket seven footer. Now, guys,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what side you are. You have to be
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: able to do everything right. You have to be able
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: to when I say everything, you got to be able
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: to shoot, you got to like, you got to do stuff.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: So the game the athletes are better, is the game better?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: I've said this often, I'll say it again. I prefer
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: the college game right now, not because the players are
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: better or more athletic. I'm not dumb. Nobody ever people
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: to say that.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: It's like when you say, oh, Alabama could beat you know,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. No they couldn't. But just the style
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: and how the game's played. I appreciate it more than
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: today's NBA. When the NBA does come back, we'll evolve
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: and rethink all those things.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: I like college women's basketball, yeah, better than I like
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: the WNBA.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: To be honest, if you're just looking at.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: This, well there's not so much hate. There's probably not
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of as much hate. Mean girls.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, there's a lot of that these days. But
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: everyone wants to piece of the pipe.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of people just are not one person. Oklahoma
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: City baby, that's from the four.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: That's a young that's a young that's someone who doesn't
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: like I see.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: People sometimes wearing okay see stuff and.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: Just like dry, Wait, really what are they?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: But again, they're young people, they're younger. They don't know, right,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: they don't know, they don't know. All right, We're done,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: Softy joins us next. Already ladies and gentlemen were wrapping
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: things up. Our guy is here. I've known him for well,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: we knew each other a little bit before I got here.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not really I did.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 12: I just thought you were a jackass. That's not the
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 12: same about you. But I did your show. Hey, can
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 12: you come on?
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: I'm on data.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 12: I don't remember you and I doing a lot on
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 12: the air again. We did a couple of shows. I
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 12: don't remember any of that. I don't tell you what
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 12: you know. Who else I thought was a total jackass?
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 15: Her?
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well yeah, we all thought that. God I hated
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 12: her guts. Anyway, I've known you to walk around like
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 12: she owned the place I did, and she still does
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 12: the light lad. I've known you for I'll guest twenty one,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 12: twenty two years.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're I know
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: when you're mad, right, Some guys when they're mad, they
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: like snap, yell, scream, maybe break a computer screen.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 12: We got a we got a Twitter video from a
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 12: guy today that we ripped off. By the way, I'm
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 12: we're going to play for you later today.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 8: That is of that ill.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: So go ahead when you're mad, I can tell when
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: you're just sideways pissed because you're quiet so I flip
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: on the old Instagram last night and there's Dave sitting.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: There's Dave. He's sitting in his office. No, that was downstairs. Downstairs,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: got a nice cool backdrop going out, and it was
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: just listen, we have to stop with this piggyback, piggyback, piggyback,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: and I could see the steam again. When some people
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: get mad, you know what they're snapping, when this guy,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: when this guy's mad. And you were sideways last.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 12: Night, Well, first of all, I was downstairs because the
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 12: wife was sleeping upstairs.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: And uh, in our new house. I don't know.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 12: It's made at a metal I guess, or whatever cement.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 12: Anyway I can go downstairs, I'd be loud as hell.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 12: I can't hear a damn thing. But you weren't loud phenomenal, No,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 12: you were.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 7: I went.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 12: I went downstairs just in case the lava started coming
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 12: out of the ear canal.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: The definition of seething is what I saw.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: It was a carnival act last night.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 12: I mean, we'll see what happens today, obviously, but that
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 12: was that was not a bad That was a bad
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 12: day for everybody.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 21: Man.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: So if I say piggyback.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 12: What do you want to say? I just you know,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 12: let's not do that anymore. Let's let's think of a
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 12: different word. Tomato, soup, whatever, chicken, sandwich, fish filet, call
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 12: it whatever you want. But see what I thought, and
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 12: we'll Chrispy bean burto Yeah, exactly. I'll talk to Dick
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 12: about this when he comes in here at three o'clock.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 12: That the whole piggyback thing to me, I thought was
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 12: going to be like what we saw in the playoffs,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 12: like with Game seven. Not to bring up a bad memory,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 12: but George Kirby de Brian wu one guy gets three,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 12: one guy gets three, one guy gets four, one guy
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 12: gets three, blah blah blah. But first of all, you
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 12: bring in a bridge, which is now I guess a
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 12: new term for a middle reliever.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Sure, okay.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 12: And then you bring in Luis Castillo, and apparently their
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 12: plan was for him just to finish the game.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: Yep, or get to the ninth inning, right, And I'm like,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: who does that? Right?
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 12: Like, hey, Bryce Miller is on a pitch count, he
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 12: leaves after three. Luis Castillo comes in. You want to
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 12: get him three innings and get to the seventh okay, whatever,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 12: But once it's one nothing in the seventh inning, guys,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 12: new plan, right, Like, let's scrap whatever agenda we had
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 12: heading into tonight and let's go win the damn ball game.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 12: You want to lose used Castillo as a reliever, fine,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 12: you want to have him go out there for the
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 12: eighth fine, But under no circumstances should he have come
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 12: out for the ninth inning. Ridiculous, Absolutely ridiculous. And we
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 12: all tweeted about that. We all were nervous. I could
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 12: tell like, all right, this doesn't work. Wilson's going to
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 12: get barbecued. Man, And look what happened.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't know whatever, the thing that whatever, the
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: Ferrare thing was really odd, right, because you're two thirds
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: of the of the inning in, right, you give up
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: a hit. Yes, Miller's fine, he's not on a true
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: pitch count. He's only at seventy pitches. Right, So now
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: you burn your only high leverage because Brash got activated today, correct,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: but your only high leverage reliever, you now burn him
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: for one third of an inning.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 12: See, I didn't have a problem bringing Miller out of
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 12: the game. He's coming off an injury. You know, he's
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 12: only made a couple of starts. Okay, fine, whatever, But
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 12: the whole thing about Luis Castillo and the ninth inning,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 12: and I was looking this up and I'll talk to
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 12: Dick about this in the three o'clock hour as well.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 12: You know what what mariner reliever?
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: And I was actually texting with Chris Crawford the day
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: behind your back?
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 12: What what mariner reliever has come into the game in
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 12: the seventh inning and been told you can finish this
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 12: in a one nothing game. Yeah, nobody does that, not Bizarno,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 12: not Spire, not Brash, not Munos, not Chris Well, what'd
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 12: you call Hopy?
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: Just kind of a circus. It was just it was
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: just a clown show.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 12: And then on top of that, you got the whole
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 12: thing with Dan Wilson not knowing the rules, oh my god,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 12: you know, which was a terrible look by him, dugout
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 12: not knowing the rules, terrible look by them.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just I don't know, man, it was.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 12: It was one of those nights where it kind of
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 12: just makes you question what the hell's going on behind
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 12: the scenes down there.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: Right, doesn't make a question who's running the show.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 12: Absolutely makes you question all of it. I mean for
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 12: the Wilson haters. I mean, you know, I said today
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 12: with our guys over at King that was like when
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 12: Patrick Swayze took out the flamethrower at the gas station
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 12: and point brink just gas on the fire, right, just
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 12: bringing flames everywhere.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: How much those guys paying these days?
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 12: WI you, I'm on every day, I'm on once a week,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 12: and I make barely enough money to pay.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: My union dues.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 12: Wow with them with after yeah, yeah, it's basically a
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 12: net zero. When it's all said, did you do that?
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 12: Don't get paid?
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: But in case people get fired, I get like five
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: percent of you guys do it. A follow up on
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: the top five athletes from Alta.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 12: I saw that the other day, Layman Heward, uh Brock Heward,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 12: Luke Hewart, Billy Joe Hobert, Joe Crawlock, Bettie, Joe Hobert.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: Those would be my top five, my top five. Brandon Gibson,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: all right, what's coming up today? Mike Flora is going
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: to join us.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 12: Uh In about fifteen minutes, some football Petros will join us.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 12: We might have Petros at four twenty, depending on the
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 12: Mariner game today, by the way, and then Larry Stone,
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 12: great Day to have him on at five o'clock tonight,
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 12: we see if you got his Twitter account.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Back Stony, All right, oh yeah he lost his Twitter,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: didn't he?
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 4: He did hackt a weird DM from that one.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 12: You got hacked, like you, So if you ever get
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 12: a DM from anybody asking to vote for them in
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 12: a podcast contest, that was the deal, right click on.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 12: I think I heard it didn't happen with somebody else
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 12: to Chip Brown from Texas two four seven, but I was.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 12: I was aware enough to text him and say, hey,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 12: did you send me this? He said, nope, Yeah, I
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 12: think you know what. All right, good, good advice. I
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 12: think that's how I got hacked. Yeah, yeah, Cindy Brunson
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 12: probably yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not those other.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: Let's not talk about that.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 4: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionably infness, this is
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 4: paddle Day saying so long everyone,