Latest / Brian Thomas / 55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Congressman Massie
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- 0:00Speaker 1: 505.
- 0:07Speaker 2: 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday. Listen to lunch Wednesday. Sugar,
- 0:15Speaker 2: you was a baby. Call Kenny Loggins because you're in
- 0:27Speaker 2: the danger zone. Yes, indeed. Brian Thomas right here. Glad
- 0:30Speaker 2: to be. Glad to see Joe Stricker, executive producer where
- 0:32Speaker 2: he belongs, as I always like to point out, in
- 0:33Speaker 2: the executive producer booth. And lining up guests here for
- 0:36Speaker 2: the 55KRC morning show. It's Wednesday. Stating again, the obvious.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Listener lunch Wednesday. Stating again, it's at Turf Club. Hope
- 0:43Speaker 2: to see you at the Turf Club again. Thank you
- 0:45Speaker 2: to the Turf Club for opening early on a Wednesday.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Not typically open for lunch on Wednesday. Going to enjoy
- 0:51Speaker 2: myself a big old burger and some of those awesome
- 0:54Speaker 2: onion rings. Boy, I love those onion rings. Anyhow, if
- 0:58Speaker 2: you haven't been to Turf Club, use today as an
- 0:59Speaker 2: opportunity to show up. Or if you haven't been to
- 1:01Speaker 2: Listener Lunch, the fellowship is wonderful. The listeners are fantastic.
- 1:05Speaker 2: I have the best listening audience in radio. Absolutely believe that.
- 1:10Speaker 2: And thanks to the listener who sent Cribbage Mike. If
- 1:11Speaker 2: you're out there, my submariner friend got a mug coming
- 1:14Speaker 2: your way. One of the listeners, I guess, saw a
- 1:17Speaker 2: mug which refers to submariners. It's really comical. It came
- 1:23Speaker 2: in yesterday, so just a nice little gift. See, great
- 1:26Speaker 2: listening audience. Submariner Mike, Submariner Mike, kind of a celebrity
- 1:30Speaker 2: in his own right. Big picture with Jack Atherton. Speaking
- 1:33Speaker 2: of celebrities, Jack Atherton. Coming up at 7.05, we always
- 1:36Speaker 2: get the big picture with Jack every Wednesday at 7.05.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Today's topic, Karl Marx football predictions. From each according to
- 1:46Speaker 2: his ability to each according to his need in the
- 1:48Speaker 2: world of football. Maybe... We'll get Jack to break it
- 1:51Speaker 2: down at 7.05, followed, as always, by Donald O'Neill from
- 1:54Speaker 2: Americans for Prosperity. He is going to be joined today
- 1:57Speaker 2: by Americans for Prosperity's political director, Tim Ross. We'll have
- 2:01Speaker 2: some candidate endorsements from AFP. And continuing a theme here
- 2:07Speaker 2: that Tom Zalastowski is talking about every single week, hold
- 2:10Speaker 2: your nose and vote Republican. Wish we didn't have to
- 2:13Speaker 2: hold our nose along those lines. Hey, can I ask
- 2:15Speaker 2: a question out loud? 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
- 2:18Speaker 2: T phones. Where in the hell is Mitch McConnell? Joe,
- 2:23Speaker 2: have you seen him? No, you haven't, have you?
- 2:28Speaker 3: Huh.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Some interesting reporting on his wife. We'll get to that
- 2:33Speaker 2: later in the program. Someone over the other day, Fox
- 2:40Speaker 2: News host Joe Concha, said out loud on television that
- 2:46Speaker 2: Over the show, the big weekend show on Fox News,
- 2:48Speaker 2: he's demanded Mitch McConnell return to office or quit. If
- 2:54Speaker 2: he does not come back in September, he needs to
- 2:56Speaker 2: step down. How many months has it been since we've
- 2:58Speaker 2: heard from him directly? That's a quote from Joe Concho
- 3:02Speaker 2: over on Fox News, out loud, just a day or
- 3:04Speaker 2: two ago. Legitimate question, I would argue. Where in the
- 3:08Speaker 2: hell is Mitch McConnell?
- 3:09Speaker 3: Anyone?
- 3:10Speaker 2: Anyone? Anyhow, Donald Neal, State Director, and Tim Ross, the
- 3:17Speaker 2: AFP Political Director. 7.30 for that one. Cool. Check this out.
- 3:21Speaker 2: It's been too long. I don't care what anybody says.
- 3:24Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan and always will be a Congressman
- 3:26Speaker 2: Thomas Massey. You can call him Dr. No or Mr.
- 3:29Speaker 2: No or he didn't accomplish anything. He knew what he did.
- 3:34Speaker 2: He forced a lot of people to stare themselves in
- 3:36Speaker 2: the mirror and question their own, well, ethics, morality, and
- 3:41Speaker 2: questioned their own oath of office, swearing to uphold the
- 3:44Speaker 2: Constitution of the United States of America. Thomas Massey understands
- 3:47Speaker 2: the Constitution and is one of the few elected officials
- 3:51Speaker 2: ever to stand, well, behind it or next to it
- 3:56Speaker 2: in support of what he has argued for and advocated
- 3:58Speaker 2: for during his career, which is going to be over shortly.
- 4:01Speaker 2: We all know, outcome of election. We'll talk about the
- 4:05Speaker 2: anti-flock camera legislation. We will talk about the Prime Act, which,
- 4:11Speaker 2: of course, we need to pass. And Epstein Files 2.0,
- 4:16Speaker 2: release the Epstein Files. He did it once, passed that
- 4:19Speaker 2: almost unanimously through Congress, signed into law by President Trump.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Why do we need a release the Epstein Files second bill?
- 4:26Speaker 2: I can't wait for Massie to explain that one to
- 4:28Speaker 2: me and us collectively because I have no idea what
- 4:31Speaker 2: the problem is behind the scenes. Remember, Trump campaigned on
- 4:34Speaker 2: releasing the documents. And how did things get flipped around?
- 4:38Speaker 2: How did this become a bipartisan opposition releasing the Epstein files? Well,
- 4:41Speaker 2: maybe because everybody's implicated. Good. So what? Should you or
- 4:47Speaker 2: I as constituents just sort of ignore the reality of
- 4:52Speaker 2: it because our people are implicated or referenced even? Their
- 4:57Speaker 2: people are implicated or referenced. Isn't this information we all
- 5:00Speaker 2: should know and be entitled to? Why is it being
- 5:03Speaker 2: withheld from us? Oh, parenthetically, in so far as the
- 5:08Speaker 2: flock camera discussion with Congressman Massey, anti-flock legislation, Lebanon City
- 5:12Speaker 2: Council voted yesterday to remove the 20 flock safety automatic
- 5:16Speaker 2: license plate readers they have in their city limits. Obviously,
- 5:20Speaker 2: this is a growing trend to get rid of flock.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Also a growing trend, people's opposition to artificial intelligence. Go ahead.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Be opposed to it. I'm opposed to the concept of
- 5:30Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, but I can't be opposed to the reality
- 5:33Speaker 2: of it. Here it is. It's in front of us.
- 5:37Speaker 2: And go ahead. You hate it here? You want to
- 5:38Speaker 2: repeal the tax breaks, which Wall Street Journal reported on?
- 5:41Speaker 2: A lot of states, including Ohio, I think Governor Wein
- 5:44Speaker 2: issued some sort of moratorium on tax breaks going to
- 5:46Speaker 2: artificial intelligence centers. Tax breaks that were put in place
- 5:49Speaker 2: back in 2015, which led to Ohio being one of
- 5:52Speaker 2: the biggest destinations for data center development. We've benefited a
- 5:56Speaker 2: lot by the data centers being here now that they're
- 5:59Speaker 2: a bad thing. People suggest it's the power and water use.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I think it's more of the reality setting in on
- 6:05Speaker 2: what AI can do and what it is doing and
- 6:08Speaker 2: how blank and creepy it is. And that's the part
- 6:10Speaker 2: that I hate. But I'm not dumb enough to believe
- 6:12Speaker 2: that I can stop it from happening. So the question
- 6:14Speaker 2: then becomes, as it always has been, who's going to
- 6:17Speaker 2: control it? Us or the Chinese Communist Party? And will
- 6:24Speaker 2: things be better if we abdicate responsibility for AI development
- 6:27Speaker 2: over the CCP? Is that going to result in your
- 6:31Speaker 2: job being safe? Of course not. Got to control it.
- 6:37Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. So that's a topic conversation
- 6:44Speaker 2: with Congressman Massey. Again, that's at 805. So if you
- 6:47Speaker 2: know where Mitch McConnell is, please give me a call.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Anything else you want to talk about, you can do
- 6:50Speaker 2: that as well. 55k or c.iheart.com is where you'll find
- 6:54Speaker 2: Podcasts like the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, Tom Zawistowski, speaking
- 6:57Speaker 2: of which, wethepeopleconvention.org. It's there. And the Smith event. Smith event.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Amy Acton unfit to serve. Has anybody questioned what happened
- 7:09Speaker 2: the other day at the Democrat campaign event with Amy Acton?
- 7:15Speaker 2: I know Jack Windsor from the Howe Press Network, who
- 7:16Speaker 2: joins the program every Friday at 8.30, has commented on
- 7:19Speaker 2: that on his page and up. The reporting is all
- 7:24Speaker 2: over the place. Two people knocked down, three people knocked down.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Nobody references who knocked them down. Some say that the
- 7:33Speaker 2: guy that was arrested knocked them down. Others are silent
- 7:36Speaker 2: on that. Different reports about what weapons he had on
- 7:39Speaker 2: of them. None of them drawn. Some reports he had
- 7:41Speaker 2: a taser. Others just say he had firearms. Brass knuckles
- 7:44Speaker 2: reported in some articles and not others. And where is
- 7:48Speaker 2: the video? Now, Jack Windsor has already requested an open
- 7:52Speaker 2: records request for the cameras from the police officers, the
- 7:55Speaker 2: Ohio State Patrol officers that were there. Apparently, Amy Acton
- 7:58Speaker 2: had instructed the crowd not to record things going on.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I know that that raises some sort of conspiracy theories
- 8:04Speaker 2: out there. Well, if there's no video, then Amy Acton's
- 8:06Speaker 2: recitation of the events can, well, stand the test of
- 8:09Speaker 2: her recitation of the events rather than what actually happened.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Somebody's got video, like the guy who was arrested holding
- 8:16Speaker 2: his cell phone camera up, moving through the crowd, apparently
- 8:19Speaker 2: in an effort to ask her a question. So, but
- 8:25Speaker 2: I think ultimately the point on Amy Acton, whether or
- 8:27Speaker 2: not that is some sort of attack on her or
- 8:29Speaker 2: just some random dude being targeted to suggest an attack
- 8:33Speaker 2: on Amy Acton by some evil Republican forces. She's still hiding.
- 8:37Speaker 2: She will not answer questions. She will not debate Vivek Ramaswamy.
- 8:41Speaker 2: She will not. Listen, it's just awful. And that she
- 8:44Speaker 2: has any traction whatsoever with that posture is just really,
- 8:47Speaker 2: I'll call it heartbreaking. I mean, you can look to
- 8:53Speaker 2: Joe Biden. At least, you know, he sort of kind
- 8:55Speaker 2: of got away with it in the 2020 election simply because, well, COVID.
- 9:00Speaker 2: You could make the argument anyway. Well, he's an elderly man.
- 9:04Speaker 2: We don't want him to get sick.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Whatever.
- 9:08Speaker 2: But at least you could tenuously cling to this new
- 9:14Speaker 2: phenomenon called COVID-19. And yeah, we apparently, with hindsight, overreacted
- 9:18Speaker 2: Amy lockdown acting. But she doesn't have that going for her,
- 9:22Speaker 2: does she? I think the only conclusion one can reach
- 9:25Speaker 2: insofar as Amy acting relative to Vivek Ramaswamy is she
- 9:28Speaker 2: is a coward. A coward. You can sum it up
- 9:35Speaker 2: in your own way. But she's a politician. She wants
- 9:42Speaker 2: to be the governor of the state of Ohio. She's
- 9:44Speaker 2: going to have massive decision making. She's going to be
- 9:46Speaker 2: on the national stage. There are going to be opportunities
- 9:49Speaker 2: or there are going to be times when Amy Acton
- 9:51Speaker 2: is going to have to address the press and answer
- 9:53Speaker 2: questions on the fly. That's exactly what her debate is
- 9:58Speaker 2: all about. Why is she being so cowardice? Why is
- 10:03Speaker 2: she a coward? 515 right now, 55KRC, the talk station.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Plenty to talk about coming up. Hope you can stick
- 10:08Speaker 2: around or give me a call. I'll be right back.
- 10:10Speaker 3: 55KRC.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Our iHeartRadio music. Joe, it looks like George is number one.
- 10:17Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the call screen was reduced on my browser,
- 10:21Speaker 2: so I didn't see callers there. George, welcome to the program.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Thanks for calling this morning.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Oh, my pleasure. I want to point out the similarities
- 10:29Speaker 4: between the pseudo-assault on Ilhan Omar as well as compared
- 10:36Speaker 4: with that of Amy Acton in the Omar assault. That
- 10:41Speaker 4: dropped out of the news cycle very quickly after a
- 10:44Speaker 4: photo surfaced of Elon and her assaulter in a more
- 10:49Speaker 4: congenial setting. I'm not saying that this is happening again,
- 10:56Speaker 4: but I will say.
- 10:58Speaker 5: It's very odd how quickly.
- 11:00Speaker 6: the Omar assault dropped out of the news cycle.
- 11:03Speaker 2: It is rather shocking, isn't it, George? And I suspect,
- 11:06Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that Amy Atkins apparently addressed
- 11:08Speaker 2: the crowd and told them not to video the speech
- 11:10Speaker 2: she was giving, something tells me there's probably video out
- 11:14Speaker 2: there of it. Right?
- 11:15Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I know.
- 11:17Speaker 2: And then she'll probably run around and say it's artificial
- 11:20Speaker 2: intelligence or something. I have my popcorn out and I'm
- 11:22Speaker 2: willing to wait for a similar outcome, George, because I
- 11:25Speaker 2: believe that's the direction it's going. Oh, my God, it's
- 11:28Speaker 2: an evil Republican attacking the Democrat in order to get
- 11:30Speaker 2: some sort of traction where Amy Acton can't get any traction,
- 11:33Speaker 2: at least on the issues, because she won't talk about him.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Thank you, George. I appreciate that. Who's next? Joe Strecker.
- 11:38Speaker 6: Pat.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Pat, welcome to the show. Happy Wednesday.
- 11:42Speaker 7: Oh, Brian, I want to just say the power of prayer.
- 11:46Speaker 7: I pray for the children as I pray for you
- 11:49Speaker 7: and Joe. But to find these kids, it was a
- 11:53Speaker 7: prayer answered. Seventy-nine children were found. So if people don't
- 11:59Speaker 7: believe in the power of prayer, and even if you
- 12:01Speaker 7: can't or know any prayer, talk to God. We got
- 12:05Speaker 7: to save our kids. But anyway, Brian, you have a
- 12:08Speaker 7: nice day, hon.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Pat, you do the same, and I certainly appreciate your
- 12:12Speaker 2: sentiments along those lines. I think talking to God's important.
- 12:15Speaker 2: You can't lie to God, can you? This is why
- 12:17Speaker 2: I think prayer is beneficial, even if you are a
- 12:20Speaker 2: nonbeliever from a religious standpoint, you know, doctrine and dogma.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Maybe just believe in a God. If God can see
- 12:26Speaker 2: all and know all You can't hide behind your nonsensical BS,
- 12:32Speaker 2: somebody else's fault arguments now, can you? Just saying, this
- 12:36Speaker 2: is how I approach prayer personally. It forces introspection. Carl,
- 12:42Speaker 2: welcome to the program and happy Wednesday to you, sir.
- 12:45Speaker 6: Happy Wednesday. Say, I have a public service announcement for
- 12:48Speaker 6: everyone regarding the absentee ballot application that was mailed out
- 12:52Speaker 6: by Frank LaRose. Line item six requests your identification, and
- 12:58Speaker 6: it says provide one of the following. A, write in
- 13:01Speaker 6: the last four digits of your Social Security number. B,
- 13:03Speaker 6: write in your Ohio driver's license number or state ID
- 13:06Speaker 6: card number. C, a copy of a different form of
- 13:10Speaker 6: current photo identification, a driver's license, state ID card, or
- 13:15Speaker 6: interim ID form issued by an Ohio BMV.
- 13:20Speaker 3: U.S.
- 13:20Speaker 6: Passport or passport card, or U.S. military card, military dependent card,
- 13:26Speaker 6: Ohio national ID card, or U.S. Veterans Affairs ID card.
- 13:31Speaker 6: And the copy of the photo ID must contain images
- 13:33Speaker 6: of the front and back, except for a passport, which
- 13:36Speaker 6: must include the passport's identification page. Now, this wording is
- 13:40Speaker 6: a little bit ambiguous to me and may lead some
- 13:42Speaker 6: people to be a little bit confused. If you read
- 13:45Speaker 6: too much into it, it's ambiguous. If you don't read enough,
- 13:50Speaker 6: you're not going to understand it. And if you listen
- 13:52Speaker 6: to the ACLU and Democrats saying, oh, my gosh, oh,
- 13:56Speaker 6: my gosh, they're requiring me to give them my Ohio
- 14:02Speaker 6: driver's license number and they're requiring me to submit a
- 14:06Speaker 6: photo identification of the driver's license. Well, I called the
- 14:11Speaker 6: local Hamilton County Board of Elections yesterday and they said, no,
- 14:14Speaker 6: if you give them Your Ohio driver's license number or
- 14:18Speaker 6: state ID, car number, or Social Security number, you do
- 14:21Speaker 6: not have to give them another form of identification.
- 14:25Speaker 8: Right.
- 14:25Speaker 6: Now, the Summit County Board of Elections, that's up around Akron, Ohio,
- 14:32Speaker 6: they go a little bit further. They had a pretty
- 14:33Speaker 6: good Facebook post out there a week ago where they
- 14:37Speaker 6: show what you have to do in photos. One thing
- 14:41Speaker 6: that they mentioned was if a driver's license says non-citizen,
- 14:46Speaker 6: then additional proof of citizenship is required, such as certificate
- 14:52Speaker 6: of naturalization, certificate of citizenship, consular report of birth abroad,
- 14:58Speaker 6: or certification of report of birth. Now, in the original
- 15:03Speaker 6: bill that was proposed by, I believe it was House
- 15:07Speaker 6: Bill 472, which was vetoed by Congress, Mike DeWine. It
- 15:10Speaker 6: was in there. And it said that libraries and BMVs
- 15:15Speaker 6: must provide copies free of charge. And I asked a
- 15:20Speaker 6: librarian over the weekend if they had been given any
- 15:23Speaker 6: direction as to whether or not copies would be provided
- 15:27Speaker 6: free of charge. And she said, no, there was no
- 15:30Speaker 6: direction given by the government. However, here in Hamilton County,
- 15:33Speaker 6: They will make copies for you free of charge, and
- 15:38Speaker 6: they've got a fairly good copy machine at some of
- 15:41Speaker 6: the libraries here that will copy the front and back
- 15:44Speaker 6: of a photo ID and keep it front and back.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you running all that down, Carl. You
- 15:52Speaker 2: get the impression that it's that we collectively i suppose
- 15:56Speaker 2: are making this more difficult than it needs to be
- 15:58Speaker 2: i mean i a state issued identification it has never
- 16:01Speaker 2: crossed my mind i would need anything more than my
- 16:03Speaker 2: driver's license walk in and cast a vote that's the
- 16:06Speaker 2: way it's been now there are other obviously you read
- 16:08Speaker 2: off a whole bunch of other legitimate forms of id
- 16:10Speaker 2: but did it ever cross anybody's mind to be in
- 16:13Speaker 2: spite of the language there that you read that we
- 16:15Speaker 2: needed more than one.
- 16:16Speaker 6: Um Just just the way that it was.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. But I mean, again, going back to
- 16:24Speaker 2: is this unnecessarily complicated? If you didn't get the sheet
- 16:27Speaker 2: that you just read from, wouldn't you just showed up
- 16:30Speaker 2: in November and cast your vote with your photo ID
- 16:32Speaker 2: and not even given it a second thought?
- 16:35Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
- 16:35Speaker 2: There you go.
- 16:36Speaker 6: In-person voting starts October 6th through November.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:39Speaker 2: I know there's early voting. I'm just, you know, from
- 16:41Speaker 2: a traditional standpoint, you know, it's easy to vote. Right.
- 16:45Speaker 2: I mean, we've all got that figured out. It's easy
- 16:47Speaker 2: to register. It's easy to vote. There's nothing racial about it.
- 16:50Speaker 2: There's nothing complicated about it. It's simple. Get a state
- 16:54Speaker 2: issued ID or federal, a federal passport or whatever. You're done. Period.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Go vote and hold your nose and vote for Republicans.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Thank you, Carl. Appreciate for clearing up any confusion that
- 17:06Speaker 2: may exist among my listening audience, but since I have
- 17:08Speaker 2: the smartest listening audience around, I know none of you
- 17:11Speaker 2: have any problem casting a vote. Trying to get the
- 17:16Speaker 2: brain firing on all cylinders. I think I have a
- 17:18Speaker 2: timing issue going on this morning. Let's go to the phone,
- 17:21Speaker 2: take the weight off of me, and let's see what
- 17:22Speaker 2: Tom has to say this morning. Tom, happy Wednesday.
- 17:26Speaker 5: Hey, good morning. Glad I could help.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Um.
- 17:33Speaker 8: No, it's good stuff.
- 17:35Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife and I are going to do the
- 17:37Speaker 5: FNC ballot thing this year because we're likely going to
- 17:40Speaker 5: be in Florida at my next job location early November.
- 17:46Speaker 2: You're going to Florida to work?
- 17:49Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Say a prayer for me. I'm going to
- 17:51Speaker 5: have to spend the winter in the panhandle of Florida.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Aw.
- 17:55Speaker 5: Hopefully, I know. Hopefully, it won't be too bad. Yeah,
- 18:00Speaker 5: I'm getting transferred down to Florida to do a job
- 18:04Speaker 5: down there. So I'll be all right there. But, yeah,
- 18:07Speaker 5: I'm here until, like, end of this month and then
- 18:11Speaker 5: head down there.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Say goodbye to Indianapolis.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's lots of things I won't miss, but
- 18:18Speaker 5: there's definitely things I will.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:20Speaker 5: Man, there is a Brazilian steakhouse out here that is absolutely, oh,
- 18:24Speaker 5: it's so great. It is absolutely, if anybody is in
- 18:27Speaker 5: the area, the northern part of Indianapolis, give me a call.
- 18:31Speaker 5: I'll tell you exactly how to get to it. All right.
- 18:34Speaker 5: So good. Anyway, we're going to do the FC ballot.
- 18:37Speaker 5: So we were held over the weekend, and we got
- 18:40Speaker 5: ours in the mail, so we filled it out. And
- 18:42Speaker 5: as Carl's reading it, and thank you, Carl, for all
- 18:46Speaker 5: the information that you are calling in with.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:48Speaker 5: Very, very helpful. But as I'm reading it, one of
- 18:51Speaker 5: the lines that he didn't mention that, They want you
- 18:57Speaker 5: to give them your date of birth. And right after
- 19:00Speaker 5: it says date of birth, in parentheses, it says, not
- 19:04Speaker 5: today's date. Well, yeah. Because down the floor, this is
- 19:14Speaker 5: an official state of Ohio or whatever, state of Ohio
- 19:18Speaker 5: or Hamilton County. This is an official document.
- 19:20Speaker 2: The first thing that popped in my mind is the
- 19:22Speaker 2: allergy labels. You've got a carton of eggs, and it
- 19:25Speaker 2: says contains eggs. Hey, thanks for that, buddy. Appreciate that.
- 19:32Speaker 5: And the reason is, Brian, because there's two reasons. One,
- 19:36Speaker 5: there's a lot of stupid people out there.
- 19:38Speaker 2: That is true.
- 19:39Speaker 5: And they don't pay attention. they don't care enough to
- 19:42Speaker 5: read thoroughly and make sure, you know, and then the
- 19:46Speaker 5: other thing is it it kind of along with that
- 19:49Speaker 5: it doesn't take much to confuse people and and one
- 19:53Speaker 5: slight little change and they start asking 10,000 questions uh
- 19:58Speaker 5: so yeah it's it's unfortunate um that that we have
- 20:02Speaker 5: that going on but basically I and I understand this
- 20:05Speaker 5: concept You've got to go through and you've got to
- 20:08Speaker 5: think of any possible way somebody could be confused or
- 20:12Speaker 5: misunderstand your instructions when you're giving them. I mean, I
- 20:15Speaker 5: talk to people daily. Here's what you need to do.
- 20:17Speaker 5: This is what you need to do it with. And
- 20:20Speaker 5: I need to sit there and think, all right, what
- 20:23Speaker 5: could possibly go wrong here? What could they misunderstand?
- 20:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:26Speaker 5: So I'm drawing pictures, and I'm repeating it and all that.
- 20:30Speaker 8: Why?
- 20:30Speaker 5: Because I need to walk away and go tell somebody
- 20:33Speaker 5: else what to do, and I need to know that
- 20:35Speaker 5: you knew what I just said.
- 20:37Speaker 2: It's called covering your own butt there, Tom.
- 20:40Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy, but that's kind of what we're dealing with.
- 20:44Speaker 5: And unfortunately, we've got way too many people who are
- 20:48Speaker 5: voting for Democrats, and that just spells stupidity. I don't
- 20:52Speaker 5: understand it. I don't get it. So that's why every
- 20:54Speaker 5: day I do my best to tell people, don't vote Democrat.
- 20:58Speaker 5: Have a good day.
- 20:59Speaker 2: Thanks, Tom. Good luck with the new gig, man. Hope
- 21:01Speaker 2: to still hear from you when you're down in Florida. Yeah,
- 21:03Speaker 2: referencing to the story that Pat referenced, the U.S. Marshals
- 21:07Speaker 2: announced yesterday that it found 79 missing children. Operation Meridian.
- 21:13Speaker 2: That operation conducted throughout August, along with federal, state, local
- 21:17Speaker 2: agencies located to recover these 79 reported missing and endangered children.
- 21:21Speaker 2: between the ages of 6 and 17. They focus on
- 21:27Speaker 2: children reported missing due to a range of circumstances, suspected
- 21:30Speaker 2: sex trafficking, physical and emotional abuse, neglect, runaway children, other
- 21:33Speaker 2: forms of endangerment. There is a horrific story here. Not
- 21:36Speaker 2: a whole lot of details, but marshals working across jurisdictional lines,
- 21:40Speaker 2: including all the way down to Georgia. Marshals work with
- 21:44Speaker 2: the Columbus Police Department. Here's one I was talking about.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Described as a long-term missing child case involving two sisters
- 21:52Speaker 2: aged 13 and 16, reported missing in July of 24
- 21:55Speaker 2: and April of this year. News release said law enforcement
- 21:59Speaker 2: found the 13-year-old girl concealed in a basement crawl space
- 22:05Speaker 2: hidden in the floor of a bedroom closet. This at
- 22:09Speaker 2: a home in Lockbourne. Marshall said the mother girl was
- 22:13Speaker 2: arrested for an outstanding warrant through Franklin County for a
- 22:15Speaker 2: probation violation. During the recovery and arrest, officers learned more
- 22:18Speaker 2: about a second missing girl, later found at a restaurant
- 22:21Speaker 2: in Harrisburg, Pike, and Columbus. Agents from the U.S. Housing
- 22:25Speaker 2: and Urban Development assisted the operation across the state as well.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Toledo police, along with U.S. Marshals, investigated after a 16-year-old girl,
- 22:34Speaker 2: previously reported as a victim of human trafficking, reported missing
- 22:38Speaker 2: in August of this year. They tracked leads of the
- 22:40Speaker 2: Toledo area, Michigan, eventually gathering information about an adult male
- 22:43Speaker 2: the girl may be with. They found both the girl
- 22:46Speaker 2: and the man in an address in Toledo. Girl was
- 22:49Speaker 2: given medical care and taken to the hospital for medical evaluation.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Man was interviewed on the scene. Local law enforcement investigating
- 22:55Speaker 2: potential criminal activity. And they're all, and you know, salute
- 23:00Speaker 2: to all of these law enforcement agencies, to all the DSA,
- 23:03Speaker 2: bat crap, insane loonies of the world. Yeah, let's get
- 23:08Speaker 2: rid of police. Let's get rid of the criminal justice system.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Let's let the human trafficking of six-year-olds continue unabated. You
- 23:17Speaker 2: don't believe me? Read their damn platform. And again, salute
- 23:22Speaker 2: to all these agencies. Akron, Bedford, Chillicothe, Cincinnati Police, Clark
- 23:26Speaker 2: County Sheriffs, Cleveland Division of Police, Coleraine Police Department, Columbus
- 23:29Speaker 2: Police Department, Cuyahoga County Sheriff, Dayton Police. Delaware County, FBI,
- 23:33Speaker 2: Franklin County Sheriff's, Garfield Heights, Grove City Police, Hamilton County
- 23:36Speaker 2: Sheriff's Department, HSI, HUD, Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Metropolitan Washington
- 23:42Speaker 2: Airport Authority Police Department. Yeah, the airport authority police got involved.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Montgomery County Sheriff's Office, Northeast Ohio Human Trafficking Task Force,
- 23:50Speaker 2: Ohio BCI, Orange Village Police Department, Ross County Sheriff's, Solon
- 23:56Speaker 2: Police Department, Springfield Police, Toledo Police, Westerville Police, and Youngstown
- 24:00Speaker 2: Police Department. God bless men and women in law enforcement,
- 24:03Speaker 2: and thank God that these children were saved. 536-55KRC, the
- 24:11Speaker 2: talk station. I got some stack of stupid coming your way.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Talk station. It is 541 here, 55KRC, the talk station. Wednesday.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Listener Lunch Wednesday. Turf Club. 55KRC. iheart. com. Blog page. And phone calls,
- 24:29Speaker 2: if you'd like to give me a call, that's great.
- 24:31Speaker 2: And otherwise, back to the stack of stupid. We go
- 24:35Speaker 2: to St. Louis, Missouri, where a disagreement between some woman
- 24:37Speaker 2: and folks described as associated with Jimmy Johns. This one
- 24:43Speaker 2: near St. Louis University campus. Sadly, it ended with a
- 24:48Speaker 2: 14-year-old getting shot in the leg. 14 years old. Corner
- 24:50Speaker 2: of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department. 6 p.m. right around.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Officers were called to the intersection of Vanaventer and La Cede,
- 24:58Speaker 2: La Clede, anyway. That's the intersection where they found a
- 25:01Speaker 2: 14-year-old girl inside a car with a gunshot wound. Police
- 25:04Speaker 2: investigating the connection between the mother and the restaurant. Mom
- 25:07Speaker 2: was there. At one point, mom's boyfriend showed up at
- 25:10Speaker 2: the restaurant with a 14-year-old. Hmm. According to police, 27-year-old
- 25:17Speaker 2: man and a 38-year-old man were arrested. Specifically... Adam White, 27,
- 25:23Speaker 2: charged with four counts of armed criminal action, two counts
- 25:26Speaker 2: of first-degree assault, and one count of first-degree assault on
- 25:29Speaker 2: a special victim. I imagine that will be the age
- 25:33Speaker 2: of the child. One count of unlawful use of a
- 25:34Speaker 2: weapon and a count of endangering the welfare of a child.
- 25:38Speaker 2: There's your counts. Police say the investigation found that White, yes,
- 25:41Speaker 2: worked at Jimmy John's, got into an argument with a
- 25:44Speaker 2: woman who used to work at the restaurant. There apparently
- 25:46Speaker 2: is your connection. Argument continued into the parking lot. where
- 25:49Speaker 2: the woman and White kept arguing. That's, I guess, around
- 25:54Speaker 2: the time the boyfriend and her teen daughter showed up. Anyway,
- 25:57Speaker 2: they were there during the argument. When the woman got
- 25:59Speaker 2: into her car with her boyfriend and the child and
- 26:02Speaker 2: began driving away, White started firing shots at the back
- 26:07Speaker 2: of the car, one of which hit the teen in
- 26:10Speaker 2: the leg. Amen, Joe Strecker. They took off and went
- 26:15Speaker 2: to another location. Police found them. White Well, where they went,
- 26:20Speaker 2: White had already left that scene, but later did return
- 26:23Speaker 2: and was then taken into custody. He was read his rights,
- 26:25Speaker 2: and he admitted then to shooting at the car. He
- 26:27Speaker 2: also said he left the gun at his house. Obviously
- 26:31Speaker 2: not in Hamilton County, Ohio. He's being held with no bond.
- 26:36Speaker 2: They would have given him juice and a cookie and
- 26:38Speaker 2: let him go in Hamilton County. Can I put a
- 26:42Speaker 2: plug in for Judge Lucan, or Magistrate Lucan for Juvenile Court?
- 26:46Speaker 2: Judge Joe, can I do that? Oh, look, I just did.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Boat looking. Reading Township Police asking the public to help
- 26:54Speaker 2: identify a man who repeatedly rides an electric bike naked.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? I don't know. They'll never
- 27:00Speaker 2: find out.
- 27:01Speaker 9: Me.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Man's been spotted multiple times riding this electric bike on
- 27:04Speaker 2: local trails, wearing, according to the police in their Facebook post, quote,
- 27:09Speaker 2: considerably less safety equipment than we would recommend. Close quote. Phrasing.
- 27:15Speaker 2: At least they have a sense of humor about it.
- 27:17Speaker 2: It's a picture of this guy, too. Anyway, officers, they
- 27:22Speaker 2: say they received reports about this guy over the past
- 27:25Speaker 2: several years. And spotted again recently, at which point the
- 27:31Speaker 2: police did obtain a photograph. They obscured one particular area
- 27:37Speaker 2: of the photograph, I guess, to maintain a sense of
- 27:40Speaker 2: decency about this poor guy. Asking anyone who recognized the
- 27:44Speaker 2: man to contact the Reading Police. Reddington Township Police Department.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Please close our announcement with another tongue-in-cheek reminder. Helmets are
- 27:54Speaker 2: strongly encouraged, and so are pants. 545-55-KRC, the talk station. KRC,
- 28:06Speaker 2: the talk station. 550-55-KRC, the talk station. Listener launch Wednesday.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing you in Turf Club. And looking
- 28:15Speaker 2: forward to diving into this story. It's got all the
- 28:19Speaker 2: elements of a stack of stupid. Starting in Florida.
- 28:25Speaker 3: As is tradition.
- 28:25Speaker 2: Right, Joe. Elizabeth Buescher, she's 24 and she's in hot
- 28:30Speaker 2: water facing several felony charges including DUI and battery. After
- 28:34Speaker 2: police said she was drunk when she caused a car crash,
- 28:37Speaker 2: this is in Daytona Beach, Florida. Now the arrest affidavit
- 28:39Speaker 2: says officers from the Daytona Beach Police Department showed up
- 28:43Speaker 2: after a report of a crash. Sometime at night on
- 28:47Speaker 2: August 30th, dispatchers said the driver allegedly caused a crash,
- 28:51Speaker 2: later identified as Boucher, and that she was knocking on
- 28:53Speaker 2: doors in the neighborhood before attempting to leave the scene.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? I don't know that we'll
- 28:59Speaker 2: ever find out. Police said Boucher smelled of alcohol. Maybe
- 29:01Speaker 2: that's the only reason there, Joe.
- 29:03Speaker 8: As is tradition.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Had difficulty standing and was swaying. When asked for a
- 29:08Speaker 2: driver's license, she provided a passport, which you can vote with. Thanks, Carl.
- 29:15Speaker 2: What was that, Joe? Oh, you think she was doing
- 29:20Speaker 2: her Amy Acton impression? That's certainly possible, Joe. They didn't
- 29:26Speaker 2: interview or ask her about that, though. Anyway, she gave
- 29:29Speaker 2: her the passport, and then she was asked for a
- 29:30Speaker 2: driver's license again. That's when she handed the officer her purse.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Officers asked for her to provide the driver's license. She
- 29:38Speaker 2: allegedly then stated, she was hot and tried to get
- 29:43Speaker 2: in the police vehicle. I don't know if that was
- 29:45Speaker 2: temperature hot or that she herself is smoking hot, although
- 29:48Speaker 2: the photograph suggests that she is the latter. Looks kind
- 29:52Speaker 2: of like a young Michelle Pfeiffer. Anyway, according to the affidavit,
- 29:54Speaker 2: she told police she was, quote, never going to get
- 29:57Speaker 2: pulled over again, close quote. And at that time, the
- 29:59Speaker 2: police said, well, you weren't pulled over. Police informed her
- 30:05Speaker 2: that she had been in a crash and that she
- 30:07Speaker 2: reportedly appeared surprised learning about that. She then asked the
- 30:10Speaker 2: officer to bring her to her vehicle after all the
- 30:14Speaker 2: other officers left, her words. Another officer made contact with
- 30:17Speaker 2: the owner of the car who lived in the house nearby.
- 30:19Speaker 2: This is on video showing this woman just plowing into
- 30:22Speaker 2: the car that's parked on the street. A woman came
- 30:25Speaker 2: outside to confront Buescher. She told police she saw Buescher
- 30:29Speaker 2: get out of a Ford Bronco from the passenger side,
- 30:31Speaker 2: then go around and try to get back in on
- 30:34Speaker 2: the driver's side. The woman stopped Buescher from leaving, which
- 30:37Speaker 2: led to an argument. Buescher got out of a Bronco,
- 30:40Speaker 2: then allegedly struck the woman on the side of the
- 30:43Speaker 2: face with a closed fist. That woman allegedly pushed Buescher
- 30:48Speaker 2: in the face, sending her falling to the ground. Buescher
- 30:51Speaker 2: then got up, allegedly followed the woman up to her
- 30:53Speaker 2: front porch, where she attempted to hit her again, but
- 30:55Speaker 2: was shoved back down by the woman. When she was arrested,
- 30:59Speaker 2: Buescher allegedly refused to speak with the police and did
- 31:01Speaker 2: not submit to a breath test. She allegedly attempted to
- 31:04Speaker 2: walk away from the officers. There it is, Joe. She tried.
- 31:09Speaker 2: And resisted being taken into custody. Body camera video released
- 31:13Speaker 2: by the Daytona Police Department Shows Buscher saying to the officers,
- 31:18Speaker 2: I thought we were all friends. Charged with DUI, property damage,
- 31:22Speaker 2: resisting an officer without violence, battery, and possession of a
- 31:25Speaker 2: Schedule II substance released from jail, scheduled to appear in
- 31:28Speaker 2: court October 21st if you're in the area.
- 31:31Speaker 3: The aristocrats.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Okay, Anthony Hall. This is from the BBC, and this
- 31:43Speaker 2: is in, I believe, Britain. It doesn't matter. It's the
- 31:46Speaker 2: substance of the article that really counts. Anthony Hall, who
- 31:50Speaker 2: does not have a driver's license, was stopped by police
- 31:52Speaker 2: on the M6 after he was seen swerving in his
- 31:59Speaker 2: Vauxhall Mervia, or Mareeva, between lanes and onto the shoulder.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Hall told police he'd driven from his home in Huddersfield
- 32:09Speaker 2: After he and his partner had drunk four bottles of wine,
- 32:13Speaker 2: Magistrate Court Hurd-Hall admitted to the charges of inducing dangerous
- 32:18Speaker 2: driving at a previous hearing and was sentenced to 36
- 32:21Speaker 2: weeks in prison, sentenced for 18 months. He admitted to
- 32:26Speaker 2: drunk driving, OVI, driving without a license or insurance and
- 32:31Speaker 2: taking the car without consent. All right, fine. Police heard
- 32:36Speaker 2: the saga of the 29th of June hours. Police received
- 32:39Speaker 2: information it was a driver on the M6, under the influence,
- 32:43Speaker 2: and reportedly blind.
- 32:47Speaker 3: What?
- 32:48Speaker 2: Pulled over by police. Officers stopped him, said he could
- 32:51Speaker 2: smell alcohol in his breath. When asked about this, the
- 32:53Speaker 2: 50-year-old said he and his partner, again, had been drinking wine.
- 32:57Speaker 2: He also told the officer he had gone blind about
- 33:00Speaker 2: two years ago, but could see some lights. And he
- 33:05Speaker 2: explained that While on the motorway, he followed the HGV lights,
- 33:09Speaker 2: I guess the street lights. He traveled 150 miles while
- 33:16Speaker 2: drunk and blind. He took the car from his partner, again,
- 33:19Speaker 2: without permission. Breath Lies by the Side of the Road
- 33:22Speaker 2: gave a reading of, I guess it's whatever, 50 micrograms
- 33:26Speaker 2: per 100 milliliters. You go ahead and do your metric conversions.
- 33:29Speaker 2: I don't know where that lands in terms of the
- 33:31Speaker 2: United States,. 08, but let's face it. The drink driving
- 33:35Speaker 2: limit in England and Wales, 35 micrograms, so he is
- 33:38Speaker 2: obviously about double. Amazingly, no one was injured. Blind and drunk. 556,
- 33:48Speaker 2: or blind drunk. 55-karat CD talk station, plenty to talk about, including,
- 33:52Speaker 2: where's Mitch McConnell? And what's with his wife holding Chinese posts,
- 34:01Speaker 2: working for... I guess appointments from the CCP while serving
- 34:05Speaker 2: in the United States Cabinet. Swirling question marks going around
- 34:09Speaker 2: that one, notably since Xi, his wife, took off after
- 34:11Speaker 2: he went to the hospital to go to China in
- 34:14Speaker 2: the immediate days after his hospitalization. Whose wife does that? Well,
- 34:19Speaker 2: don't go away. I've got more than that to talk about.
- 34:21Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
- 34:23Speaker 6: Here we are.
- 34:24Speaker 2: It's not just that you shouldn't. 606 on a Wednesday
- 34:27Speaker 2: and a very happy Wednesday to you. Extra special Wednesday.
- 34:30Speaker 2: It's Listener Lunch Wednesday. Going to be at Turf Club today.
- 34:33Speaker 2: The Turf Club, Eastern Avenue. It's a great spot. Cool
- 34:35Speaker 2: neon and awesome burgers. Subject of opinion mine, but I
- 34:39Speaker 2: love that joint. I hope to see you there because
- 34:40Speaker 2: I love Listener Lunch. Looking forward to that cribbage game
- 34:43Speaker 2: with Mike and the fellowship that always is so wonderful
- 34:47Speaker 2: at Listener Lunch. I hope to see you there. Big
- 34:49Speaker 2: picture with Jack Atherton. One hour from now, as is
- 34:51Speaker 2: the case almost every single Wednesday, we get the blessings
- 34:54Speaker 2: and benefit of Jack Atherton's brilliance. Today, his subject matter,
- 34:56Speaker 2: it sounds hilarious, Karl Marx football predictions. Good morning, Jack.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Can't wait for this hour to get through so we
- 35:04Speaker 2: get to hear from you. Followed by Donald O'Neill, Americans
- 35:06Speaker 2: for Prosperity State Director here in Ohio. He's going to
- 35:09Speaker 2: be joined today by Americans for Prosperity's political director, his name,
- 35:13Speaker 2: Tim Ross. They got some candidate endorsements to pass along
- 35:17Speaker 2: to us. And yes, it's hold your nose and vote
- 35:20Speaker 2: Republican November. Another message consistent with the weekly message from
- 35:24Speaker 2: Tom Zawistowski and anybody else who's concerned about the direction
- 35:27Speaker 2: of this country, the spiraling downward socialism. This is what
- 35:33Speaker 2: the left has to offer. Misery, pain, equally shared misery,
- 35:37Speaker 2: which is all that socialism brings around. And go ahead,
- 35:40Speaker 2: look over history. Why is it that they needed a
- 35:42Speaker 2: Berlin Wall? We had communists on one side, free people
- 35:47Speaker 2: on the other post-World War II. If you remember, no
- 35:51Speaker 2: one was trying to break into East Germany. People were
- 35:54Speaker 2: trying to break out of East Germany, and they were
- 35:57Speaker 2: stopped by barbed wire and bullets. A lot of people
- 36:02Speaker 2: wanted to get out of Cuba, too. They don't allow
- 36:06Speaker 2: that or provide for that. Go ahead, look throughout history.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Why is it that people want to get the hell
- 36:11Speaker 2: out of socialist-slash-communist countries? Well, you know damn well why.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Why would you vote for that here? Anyhow, Donovan O'Neill
- 36:18Speaker 2: and Tim Ross at 7.30, followed by, I cannot wait,
- 36:20Speaker 2: 8.05 with Congressman Thomas Massey. And, you know, just saying
- 36:26Speaker 2: his name just brings about a little bit of disappointment
- 36:29Speaker 2: and heartbreak, but we've got him until the end of
- 36:31Speaker 2: the year, and I'm glad, because today we're going to
- 36:33Speaker 2: be talking about all the way the anti-flockhammer legislation. Civil
- 36:37Speaker 2: libertarian he is. I think I know what his position
- 36:39Speaker 2: is on flock cameras. And I guess Lebanon recently here locally,
- 36:43Speaker 2: the city of Lebanon, I guess just yesterday, threw out
- 36:47Speaker 2: the flock cameras. They have or had, anyway, 20 flock
- 36:53Speaker 2: safety automatic license plate reader cameras. They voted yesterday to
- 36:56Speaker 2: stop them. I know the reasons why. And what else
- 37:04Speaker 2: are we talking about with Congressman Thomas Massey? The Prime Act,
- 37:06Speaker 2: he's been behind that for a long, long time. Plus,
- 37:09Speaker 2: why in God's name do we need a second Epstein
- 37:13Speaker 2: file law passed? Prior one led by Congressman Thomas Massey,
- 37:19Speaker 2: oddly to the chagrin of Donald Trump and other Republicans.
- 37:21Speaker 2: That's still scratching my head over that one. Anyway, because
- 37:24Speaker 2: it went through, thanks to the efforts of Thomas Massey,
- 37:26Speaker 2: passed almost unanimously and signed into law by the president.
- 37:29Speaker 2: So given all of that legislative activity, and there's a
- 37:32Speaker 2: law in the books, Why did Congressman Massey have to
- 37:34Speaker 2: introduce Epstein version 2.0, produce the document legislation? Anyhow, where's
- 37:40Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell? 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT & T phones.
- 37:47Speaker 2: And you say, well, Thomas, why are you taking time
- 37:49Speaker 2: to pick on a Republican? He's not even running for re-election.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Because we should expect more on the conservative side of
- 37:56Speaker 2: the ledger than we get from the Democrats. This is
- 37:58Speaker 2: kind of standard run-of-the-mill behavior for Democrats, playing fast and
- 38:01Speaker 2: loose with the Raws and You know, I cannot abide.
- 38:10Speaker 2: And then there's this. Daily Caller investigation. Saw this yesterday,
- 38:17Speaker 2: my mouth fell open. His wife, you remember her, Elaine Chao.
- 38:22Speaker 2: She was the Transportation Secretary at one point. According to
- 38:25Speaker 2: the Daily Caller, she was appointed to several positions by
- 38:28Speaker 2: the Chinese government. not just Chinese government entities, but also
- 38:33Speaker 2: organizations tied to the Chinese Communist Party, overlapping with her
- 38:38Speaker 2: service in two U.S. cabinet positions. So Mitch McConnell's wife
- 38:43Speaker 2: served as Labor Secretary under George W. Bush and Transportation
- 38:46Speaker 2: Secretary during Trump's first administration. The Daily Caller reporting cited
- 38:51Speaker 2: translations of Chinese government and state media reports, which said
- 38:58Speaker 2: that Elaine Chao, FKA Zhao Xiaolan, Mitch McConnell's wife, received
- 39:04Speaker 2: three positions connected to arms of the CCP United Front
- 39:08Speaker 2: Work Department. Yes, they have one of those. The UFWD,
- 39:14Speaker 2: along with an international advisory post in the Wuhan municipal government.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Just a coincidence, it happened to be Wuhan. Anyway, United
- 39:25Speaker 2: Front apparatus apparently used by Beijing to conduct influence operation
- 39:29Speaker 2: and advance Chinese Communist Party objective abroad. That, according to
- 39:33Speaker 2: the U.S. government assessment cited by the Daily Caller in
- 39:36Speaker 2: its reporting about her involvement in these organizations and entities. Now,
- 39:41Speaker 2: give him his due. Patrick O'Connor has been identified as
- 39:44Speaker 2: Elaine Chao, Mitch McConnell's wife's spokesperson. He said she has
- 39:48Speaker 2: never held a position with a foreign government or acted
- 39:51Speaker 2: on behalf of one. We are not aware she has
- 39:53Speaker 2: met with representatives from the UFWD entities. That's a quote.
- 39:57Speaker 2: We are not aware. Is that him and the mouse
- 39:59Speaker 2: in his pocket? Is it him and Elaine Chao? He's
- 40:02Speaker 2: the spokesperson for, I don't know. But whoever we is
- 40:09Speaker 2: in his statement, not specifically identified, but they collectively are
- 40:13Speaker 2: not aware. Anyway, he added such a suggestion, disregard, wait
- 40:19Speaker 2: for it, folks. disregards her nearly five decades of faithful
- 40:23Speaker 2: service to the United States. Pause for a moment, and
- 40:25Speaker 2: I don't think there's any connection with her faithful service
- 40:27Speaker 2: to the United States. This is separate reporting about her
- 40:31Speaker 2: apparent connection with Chinese government entities and organizations affiliated with
- 40:37Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party. Can you live dual lives? Let
- 40:42Speaker 2: you draw your own conclusions based upon her record. Anyway,
- 40:45Speaker 2: like I said, wait for it. And regarding these, this
- 40:51Speaker 2: reporting is both unfounded and deeply insulting, hurtful, and what's next? Right, racist.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Sure it is. Daily Caller said it's finding raised questions
- 41:13Speaker 2: about her disclosures before she became Trump's transportation secretary. According
- 41:16Speaker 2: to the outlet, She did not disclose these alleged Chinese
- 41:20Speaker 2: positions during her January 2017 Senate confirmation hearings, despite being
- 41:25Speaker 2: required to list positions she has held during the previous
- 41:28Speaker 2: 10 years. That will be within this time frame. Among
- 41:32Speaker 2: the appointments identified in this Daily Call report in December 2008,
- 41:36Speaker 2: decision by the J. Ding branch of the China Overseas
- 41:41Speaker 2: Friendship Association, which named both Elaine Chao and her father,
- 41:47Speaker 2: James Chow, honorary chairman of its third council, or chairwoman,
- 41:52Speaker 2: as the case may be. At the time, she was
- 41:54Speaker 2: serving as labor secretary. The reported relationship continued after she
- 41:58Speaker 2: left the Bush administration. Chinese reports, again, these are translated
- 42:02Speaker 2: reports the Daily Caller poured through, later identified Chow and
- 42:06Speaker 2: her father as advisors to the group's fourth council, which
- 42:10Speaker 2: ran from 2012 to 2017. So that's back-to-back council appointments.
- 42:14Speaker 2: It also overlapped with the beginning of her transportation department tenure.
- 42:20Speaker 2: According to the reporting from Daily Caller, a United Front
- 42:23Speaker 2: League organization also reportedly gave her a role. They report
- 42:28Speaker 2: that the All-China Federation of Returned Overseas Chinese, that is
- 42:33Speaker 2: an entity, appointed her to an advisor and committee membership
- 42:37Speaker 2: between 2012 and 2017. According to reports, that organization promotes
- 42:42Speaker 2: Beijing's narrative, strengthens party support, and sometimes conducts influence and
- 42:46Speaker 2: intelligence operations. All right, that's cozy, isn't it? Chinese government
- 42:52Speaker 2: and state media reports said she, Zhao, was tapped as
- 42:55Speaker 2: an international advisor to the Wuhan municipal government in October
- 42:59Speaker 2: of 2009. Now, her spokesperson disputed the characterization, saying that
- 43:04Speaker 2: she was unaware that she even received the titles. He
- 43:13Speaker 2: said she has received numerous honorary titles and recognition and, quote,
- 43:16Speaker 2: was unaware of the title bestowed to her in part
- 43:21Speaker 2: because she's not fluent in Chinese, close quote. Daily Caller, however,
- 43:27Speaker 2: had something to hang its hat on in connection with
- 43:32Speaker 2: that allegation. Contemporaneous Chinese reporting, specifically during a 2010 Chinese
- 43:38Speaker 2: language interview, her dad reportedly said, quote, In fact, Zhao Lan,
- 43:45Speaker 2: meaning her, and I are both advisors to the municipal
- 43:48Speaker 2: government of Wuhan, Yubai, and city in central China. Close quote.
- 43:55Speaker 2: O'Connor also accused the caller of applying a double standard
- 43:58Speaker 2: to Zhao, saying he's discovered most of her professional life.
- 44:01Speaker 2: She's devoted rather most of her professional life to serving
- 44:04Speaker 2: the American people and to question her patriotism is a
- 44:07Speaker 2: double standard at best. And there it is again, the
- 44:10Speaker 2: R word. Racist at Worst. Daily Call a Racist because
- 44:18Speaker 2: they translated Chinese document, which seemed to support the conclusion
- 44:26Speaker 2: that Mitch McConnell's wife was working for the Chinese Communist
- 44:30Speaker 2: Party or at least entities affiliated with it. Can I
- 44:33Speaker 2: ask a question out loud? How in God's name is
- 44:36Speaker 2: that racist? Seems to me it's racist to call it racist.
- 44:41Speaker 2: You're pointing to her ethnicity and not to the underlying
- 44:44Speaker 2: factual allegations. Or allegations. 616 right now. 55KRC, the talk station.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Talk station. It is 621. Count up at 622. 55KRC,
- 45:00Speaker 2: the talk station. Ah, let us see here. You know,
- 45:06Speaker 2: I was thinking about this hold your nose and vote
- 45:09Speaker 2: Republican sort of summarization of the topic. We're going to
- 45:12Speaker 2: be talking about Donovan O'Neill of AFP as well as
- 45:14Speaker 2: the AFP political director, Tim Ross, coming up at 730.
- 45:18Speaker 2: Is it so difficult in the face of what we
- 45:20Speaker 2: are facing here, we collectively are facing as a nation
- 45:23Speaker 2: with these leftist Democrat socialists of America and their supporters,
- 45:28Speaker 2: which include this Cal State Los Angeles professor, And when
- 45:33Speaker 2: you hear the words that this woman uttered in a
- 45:35Speaker 2: crowd at this socialist conference in California, I mean, of
- 45:38Speaker 2: all things, it's going to be that difficult to get
- 45:42Speaker 2: off your butt and vote for a Republican, even though
- 45:44Speaker 2: that Republican doesn't represent perfection in your mind when you
- 45:47Speaker 2: are faced with the opposition, a collective of big tent
- 45:50Speaker 2: Democrats who will not reject and go on record rejecting
- 45:55Speaker 2: the leftist ideology these people spout and who embrace the
- 45:58Speaker 2: whole concept of getting rid of ICE agents completely. We
- 46:02Speaker 2: have laws on the books, and that's what ICE does,
- 46:04Speaker 2: enforces the laws on the books. You want to change
- 46:07Speaker 2: the law, change the law. But ICE still has to
- 46:09Speaker 2: go about and do its work. And you know what?
- 46:11Speaker 2: They've been doing a pretty damn good job getting some
- 46:13Speaker 2: seriously twisted criminals off the streets of the United States
- 46:16Speaker 2: of America. Now, with that out of the way, her
- 46:19Speaker 2: name is Melina Abdullah. And this viral video is being circulated.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Some are suggesting she should be, well... criminally charged for
- 46:30Speaker 2: her utterances. You decide for yourself. Speaking to the crowd
- 46:35Speaker 2: of this socialist event at the Hilton Garden Inn in Oxnard,
- 46:41Speaker 2: the killer ICE agent who we got on good authority
- 46:44Speaker 2: is right down the road at the Hilton Garden Inn
- 46:46Speaker 2: in Oxnard. I'm sorry, that was where the officer was.
- 46:48Speaker 2: I apologize. I thought it was the venue for the
- 46:49Speaker 2: socialist meeting. Anyway, his name is Brian Palacios. Brian Palacios.
- 46:55Speaker 2: And we'll show you a picture of his pig-ass dick.
- 46:59Speaker 2: He's at the Hilton Garden in Oxnard. Sometimes it's just
- 47:02Speaker 2: dude as S word. I don't even know what that means.
- 47:05Speaker 2: You see the devil right here. F him up. Not
- 47:12Speaker 2: the first time she said that. You know that Brian
- 47:15Speaker 2: Pellicose may be staying at the Hilton Garden Inn at
- 47:18Speaker 2: 2000 Solar Drive down the way. F him up. F
- 47:22Speaker 2: him up. I'm sorry. I'm already on the compound word. M-effing-less.
- 47:31Speaker 2: We're coming off back Black August. See, again, the insane babble.
- 47:35Speaker 2: This is a college professor. And then she goes on
- 47:39Speaker 2: to read what is described as some sort of Marxist
- 47:41Speaker 2: guerrilla book. Anyway, if you have not read Blood of
- 47:43Speaker 2: My Eye, go pick up that book. Not from Amazon.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Go pick up that book and study guerrilla warfare. Guerrilla
- 47:49Speaker 2: warfare means using every single tool in your toolbox, whether
- 47:52Speaker 2: it be a powerful ass prayer like Mama Harriet Tubman,
- 47:55Speaker 2: whether it be standing in front lines and putting your
- 47:58Speaker 2: body on the line like it's necessary in this moment,
- 48:00Speaker 2: whether it be giving a dollar, all of those tools
- 48:03Speaker 2: are absolutely necessary. So when I say F him up,
- 48:06Speaker 2: I say F Brian Pelicos up, who may be staying
- 48:09Speaker 2: at the Hilton Garden Inn. When I say F him up,
- 48:11Speaker 2: I mean in many ways. They don't get to do
- 48:16Speaker 2: this S word invisibly. They don't get to do their
- 48:19Speaker 2: dirt in the dark. Shine a light on the M
- 48:21Speaker 2: having A word. There should be nowhere that they go
- 48:26Speaker 2: where they are comfortable with where they are comfortable, turn up, organize,
- 48:30Speaker 2: and win this S-word because we will win this S-word. Well,
- 48:34Speaker 2: isn't that just sort of intellectual? I just kind of
- 48:44Speaker 2: wonder if any of these people can speak without uttering
- 48:46Speaker 2: curse words. But you see the advocacy here? This guy's
- 48:50Speaker 2: a cop, basically. And she's telling a crowd of people,
- 48:56Speaker 2: I don't think you could be more descriptive or direct
- 48:58Speaker 2: than F him up. Especially when she doubles down saying
- 49:03Speaker 2: using literally every arsenal in your toolbox, which I would
- 49:07Speaker 2: presume includes violence, most notably since she referred to a
- 49:09Speaker 2: guerrilla warfare book and telling people to engage in guerrilla warfare. Honestly,
- 49:15Speaker 2: I don't think they have the numbers to wage guerrilla warfare. Terrorism, absolutely,
- 49:19Speaker 2: but not waging a guerrilla warfare. This is what we
- 49:24Speaker 2: are up against in the United States of America. 626
- 49:28Speaker 2: right now. And you're going to have to hold your
- 49:30Speaker 2: nose to go vote this fall. It is 631. Think
- 49:42Speaker 2: about care. See the talk station pointed out all morning
- 49:44Speaker 2: and leading up to today. It's listener lunch day. Going
- 49:47Speaker 2: to be at the turf club where I hope to see,
- 49:49Speaker 2: and I think I'll get a confirmation right now. Cribbage, Mike,
- 49:52Speaker 2: my submariner or submariner friend, depending on your pronunciation, both
- 49:55Speaker 2: are accurate. Welcome back, Mike. Looking forward to our game today.
- 49:58Speaker 2: I hope we're going to be playing today. 1000%.
- 50:00Speaker 8: Yes.
- 50:02Speaker 2: All right. I love hearing that. Fantastic.
- 50:04Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, we'll be, uh, uh, playing
- 50:07Speaker 8: on a new cribbage board for a one-time event. Uh,
- 50:11Speaker 8: Last month, I was fortunate to celebrate my 70th birthday,
- 50:16Speaker 8: and my daughter, who's also married to a submariner, so
- 50:19Speaker 8: she knows all about cribbage, sent me a Cincinnati Reds
- 50:22Speaker 8: edition cribbage board. So I can think of no better
- 50:25Speaker 8: way to break it in than our match today. But
- 50:28Speaker 8: then next month, we'll shift back to the cribbage mic
- 50:30Speaker 8: signature model.
- 50:31Speaker 2: That's great, man. I'm, as always, looking forward to it. Oh,
- 50:33Speaker 2: and I have a special gift from you, and a
- 50:35Speaker 2: shout-out to the listener who sent you a coffee mug.
- 50:39Speaker 2: It's a specific... It shows support for the Marines, generally speaking,
- 50:45Speaker 2: but a specific extra high designation for people who served
- 50:48Speaker 2: on a submarine. That would be you. So I'll bring
- 50:50Speaker 2: that with you today. And I got his name and
- 50:52Speaker 2: address if you want to get back with him.
- 50:53Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely. That is just really wonderful. And just once again,
- 50:57Speaker 8: a testament to all of your listeners.
- 50:59Speaker 2: Amen, brother.
- 51:00Speaker 8: Amen. Thanks for what you do.
- 51:02Speaker 2: Oh, my pleasure. I'll see you today at the Turf
- 51:05Speaker 2: Club on Eastern Avenue. God bless you, man.
- 51:11Speaker 8: As you very well know, I work in the surveillance
- 51:14Speaker 8: department at a very well-known gaming establishment in downtown Cincinnati.
- 51:19Speaker 2: Use your imagination on that one.
- 51:22Speaker 8: There's so many down there. But I am calling in
- 51:27Speaker 8: tremendous support of that technology because, and I appreciate what
- 51:31Speaker 8: CPD and even Hamilton County just did, that they're putting
- 51:34Speaker 8: a pause on it. They're looking at the guardrails because
- 51:37Speaker 8: that's what it's all about. It's about accountability. I don't
- 51:41Speaker 8: understand this throwing the baby out with the bathwater mentality.
- 51:45Speaker 8: Out here in Pierce Township last week, they took a vote,
- 51:48Speaker 8: and they're getting rid of it. And their excuse was, well,
- 51:50Speaker 8: two were vandalized, and it cost too much to fix them.
- 51:53Speaker 8: So I guess if we just vandalize police equipment, we
- 51:55Speaker 8: just do away with it.
- 51:56Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
- 51:58Speaker 8: On day one, with the technology that we have for
- 52:02Speaker 8: the protection of our property, our assets, and our guests,
- 52:06Speaker 8: I signed multiple documents because the technology that we have
- 52:10Speaker 8: at our fingertips, that it is immediate termination. And if
- 52:15Speaker 8: it raises to the level of criminal charges, those will
- 52:18Speaker 8: also be filed if I were to misuse that. And
- 52:21Speaker 8: you look at the case out of Columbus. where that
- 52:23Speaker 8: police officer used their system to research a specific license
- 52:28Speaker 8: plate over 300 times over months to track an individual.
- 52:33Speaker 8: That is easily researched. So once again, where's the oversight?
- 52:38Speaker 8: Because of that, once again, what I have the ability
- 52:41Speaker 8: to do for our repeat offenders, since we've instituted this technology,
- 52:46Speaker 8: has dropped to single digits. Because the words on the street,
- 52:51Speaker 8: because the time you drive your car on or the
- 52:53Speaker 8: time you walk in with our facial recognition technology, we
- 52:57Speaker 8: are alerted and that is turned away. And we also
- 53:00Speaker 8: use it. And one of your callers brought it up
- 53:02Speaker 8: or maybe one of your guests, you know, where us
- 53:05Speaker 8: in the industry, we want to know if we got
- 53:07Speaker 8: a big player coming in or people leave money in
- 53:11Speaker 8: the ATMs. People leave money on the table. So now
- 53:14Speaker 8: we'll put your information in. So, hey, the next time
- 53:16Speaker 8: you come back, here's your $ 200, sir. So the range
- 53:21Speaker 8: of good and bad that can be done to keep,
- 53:25Speaker 8: to use of this technology. But once again, the guardrails
- 53:29Speaker 8: have to be there and you have to hold the
- 53:31Speaker 8: people accountable to the fullest extent of the law when
- 53:35Speaker 8: they misuse it.
- 53:36Speaker 2: No question about it, Mike. But then I will quickly
- 53:38Speaker 2: observe that everybody's got a smartphone on them now. They
- 53:40Speaker 2: have cameras. They have microphones. You have apps on them
- 53:43Speaker 2: where you have voluntarily given up massive privacy rights in
- 53:46Speaker 2: the name of getting something that you believe to be free.
- 53:48Speaker 2: I mean, Focusing and pointing just to flock as this
- 53:52Speaker 2: nefarious technology element. And I understand the motivations behind it. Me,
- 53:56Speaker 2: the little old civil libertarian, I get it. I don't
- 53:59Speaker 2: want them misusing data. I don't think it's appropriate for
- 54:01Speaker 2: police officers to use it to spy on girlfriends and whatever.
- 54:04Speaker 2: But I think those things can be fixed. But like
- 54:08Speaker 2: my arguments for AI, you can reject it and let
- 54:10Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party do it, or you can embrace
- 54:12Speaker 2: it and hopefully control the technology within some reasonable guidelines
- 54:16Speaker 2: here in the United States. Same thing with this technology.
- 54:19Speaker 2: If the guardrails are in place, it can be very valuable.
- 54:22Speaker 2: And I will attribute, like you seem to suggest, Mike,
- 54:24Speaker 2: that the drop in crime that we have seen across
- 54:27Speaker 2: this country, in spite of the fact that downtown Cincinnati
- 54:29Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have experienced it, but there has been
- 54:31Speaker 2: a pretty significant drop in crime. And I think this
- 54:34Speaker 2: technology is the reason behind it. Because literally, as I
- 54:38Speaker 2: regularly joke about, you can't go anywhere without a camera
- 54:40Speaker 2: following you. And, of course, the trail can be recreated.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Look at these national headlines, murderers. They can find the
- 54:48Speaker 2: guy from the moment he walked out of his house
- 54:50Speaker 2: to the moment he squeezed the trigger and killed somebody
- 54:52Speaker 2: in the streets of downtown New York. Every step of
- 54:55Speaker 2: the way is on video.
- 54:57Speaker 8: Look at the high-profile cases we've had here locally. That
- 55:00Speaker 8: one runaway or kidnapped girl out of Coleraine that was
- 55:04Speaker 8: found because of that technology down in the Florida and
- 55:07Speaker 8: Georgia area. We had a couple of 14-year-olds steal a car,
- 55:10Speaker 8: and within 24 hours, they were apprehended. And the murder
- 55:14Speaker 8: in the workplace up in Mason, he was caught within
- 55:17Speaker 8: 24 hours because of that technology. And, you know, Brian,
- 55:20Speaker 8: the little bit of conspiracy theory of me, or I
- 55:24Speaker 8: forget the phrase that your one listener calls it.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Pattern observation.
- 55:28Speaker 8: Pattern observation, right.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Good morning, Maureen.
- 55:30Speaker 8: There's a little bit of me that can't help but
- 55:32Speaker 8: think that how much of this is a defund the
- 55:35Speaker 8: police model. It's very not PC to say take the
- 55:39Speaker 8: money away, but if we can take their tools away,
- 55:42Speaker 8: you get the same effect.
- 55:43Speaker 2: Amen, brother. And you know, let me quickly observe, as
- 55:45Speaker 2: I have before, any breach of trust, any single officer
- 55:51Speaker 2: abusing flock cameras for his or her own personal benefit
- 55:54Speaker 2: makes the flock cameras completely, well, wrong. We need to
- 55:57Speaker 2: eliminate them because they can be abused. Where is that
- 56:00Speaker 2: mentality toward voter fraud? How come one isn't enough? If
- 56:05Speaker 2: it can be done and the holes in the voting
- 56:07Speaker 2: process can be identified and plugged, then Why don't we
- 56:10Speaker 2: do that? No, no, no. It doesn't happen that often.
- 56:12Speaker 2: We just need to let it go. Go ahead and
- 56:14Speaker 2: see if you can reconcile that. And if you can't,
- 56:16Speaker 2: give me a call and tell me how. Thanks, Mike.
- 56:18Speaker 2: I'll see you in a few hours. 638-55-KRC, the talk station.
- 56:22Speaker 2: Fasten Pro Roofing. Face. 642-55-KRC, the talk station. I'm going
- 56:28Speaker 2: to go straight to the phones here. If you want
- 56:29Speaker 2: to call, feel free.
- 56:30Speaker 3: 513-749-5500-8883.
- 56:30Speaker 2: Talk. 550 on AT & T phones. Let's see what
- 56:36Speaker 2: Todd's got to say this morning. Todd, thanks for calling,
- 56:37Speaker 2: and happy Wednesday to you, sir.
- 56:40Speaker 10: Happy Wednesday, Brian. Uh, yeah, I, I was listening to
- 56:44Speaker 10: Mike just before and I was, you know, I've been
- 56:47Speaker 10: tossed around this idea of the flock cameras, you know,
- 56:50Speaker 10: good or bad. And I, I went back to like
- 56:52Speaker 10: doing a pros and cons list. And I, I came
- 56:55Speaker 10: up with, you know, think of all the money flock
- 56:59Speaker 10: cameras could have saved us like back during COVID, you know,
- 57:04Speaker 10: you wouldn't have had to send the state troopers out
- 57:06Speaker 10: to churches, take license numbers. Um, And just think about
- 57:11Speaker 10: all the wonderful things that could be used for if
- 57:14Speaker 10: the Democratic, Socialist, Communist, whatever they are, get into power.
- 57:20Speaker 5: I just, you know.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Todd, I pull that tongue out of your cheek and
- 57:24Speaker 2: I poke a hole in it. I hear you, man.
- 57:27Speaker 2: That's why, you know, the city of Lebanon, the reason
- 57:30Speaker 2: that they pulled the plug just the other day was
- 57:32Speaker 2: not because they distrusted Lebanon police. And the mayor, Mark Messer,
- 57:35Speaker 2: is on record. Listen, I got no problem with Lebanon police.
- 57:37Speaker 2: We don't know of any abuses of the system. It's flock.
- 57:40Speaker 2: We've asked them for information. What are you keeping by
- 57:43Speaker 2: way of data? Who are you sharing with? All the
- 57:46Speaker 2: concerns we've got about where this data is going and
- 57:48Speaker 2: what it's being used for, they should be able to
- 57:50Speaker 2: answer that question. And to the extent the data is
- 57:52Speaker 2: being kept or improperly used by flock, then we could reconcile,
- 57:55Speaker 2: resolve the problem, or go to a different vendor because
- 57:57Speaker 2: there's more than one sort of vendor along these lines
- 58:00Speaker 2: out in the world. But, yes, you are illustrating the
- 58:03Speaker 2: very great point about this big brother technology.
- 58:06Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 58:08Speaker 10: You know, like you said, the big brother technology, I mean,
- 58:12Speaker 10: we've already got enough of it. I mean, right now
- 58:15Speaker 10: we're talking on, I'm talking on a cell phone in
- 58:17Speaker 10: my car that probably that conversation is being stored somewhere.
- 58:23Speaker 5: Who knows?
- 58:24Speaker 2: Do you ever talk with someone who's a resident of
- 58:28Speaker 2: a foreign country or a citizen of a foreign country?
- 58:31Speaker 2: If so, NSA is probably listening to your call right now, Todd.
- 58:35Speaker 2: Add them to the list.
- 58:35Speaker 8: Oh, I hope so.
- 58:36Speaker 10: I really hope so. Anyway, I was also going to
- 58:40Speaker 10: say I decided not to wait until retirement. I took
- 58:43Speaker 10: a half day off of work today, and I want
- 58:46Speaker 10: to come down to Listener Lunch.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Cool.
- 58:49Speaker 10: And meet some of the cast characters that I hear
- 58:52Speaker 10: every morning.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Well, I hope a lot of the characters show up. Sadly,
- 58:56Speaker 2: I'm not holding my breath that Westside Jim Kiefer will
- 58:59Speaker 2: show up. He's been not feeling real well lately, and
- 59:01Speaker 2: I haven't seen him at Listener Lunch. You get to
- 59:03Speaker 2: meet Curbage Mike, and if that makes your day, it
- 59:07Speaker 2: should make your day, he's definitely going to be there,
- 59:08Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see you, Todd, and thanks
- 59:10Speaker 2: for spending your half day with the Listener Lunch crew.
- 59:13Speaker 2: I think you'll enjoy yourself.
- 59:15Speaker 10: Oh, I know I will. I haven't been to the
- 59:17Speaker 10: Turf Club in a while.
- 59:19Speaker 2: Reason enough.
- 59:19Speaker 10: When you said Listener Lunch, yeah, reason enough. It's going
- 59:23Speaker 10: to be at the Turf Club. I'm like, oh, I've
- 59:25Speaker 10: got to take a day.
- 59:26Speaker 2: Off and come down there.
- 59:28Speaker 10: Todd?
- 59:29Speaker 3: Todd?
- 59:29Speaker 2: Skip breakfast. Skip breakfast. Come hungry.
- 59:35Speaker 10: Oh, I will.
- 59:36Speaker 2: I'll see you in a few hours, man. Looking forward
- 59:38Speaker 2: to it, brother. 645 right now. I hope to see
- 59:40Speaker 2: you there, too. Come hungry. Looks like I've got another
- 59:44Speaker 2: call coming in, and your call will be welcome, too,
- 59:46Speaker 2: if you want to give me a ring. Hold on, though.
- 59:48Speaker 2: Got to mention Gate of Heaven Cemetery because I want to.
- 59:51Speaker 2: Proceed the talk station. 6.51 at 55 Karat City Talk Station. Yeah,
- 59:56Speaker 2: speaking of the flock cameras, that's one of the topics
- 59:58Speaker 2: we're going over with Congressman Thomas Massey. Yes, he's still
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: a congressman. I still like him, and he's a good man.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: At least he understands the Constitution, and he swore an
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: oath to it. Standing there all day long, screaming into
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: the wind about everybody else around him just ignores the
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: Constitution for a multitude of reasons. So I'm interested in
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: hearing his thoughts on flock cameras. We'll get that right
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: out of the gate at 8.05. In the meantime, let's
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: go to the phone and see what Jay's got today. Jay,
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: welcome back to The Morning Show. Happy Wednesday.
- 1:00:24Speaker 9: Hey, happy Wednesday, Brian. Hey, with all due respect, and
- 1:00:28Speaker 9: I really like Submariner Mike, I disagree with him on
- 1:00:33Speaker 9: this one.
- 1:00:34Speaker 8: I think we forget.
- 1:00:37Speaker 9: Things like the Patriot Act and Section 215 that allows
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: the government to collect, quote, any tangible thing, including business
- 1:00:45Speaker 9: records and telephone metadata for investigation related to foreign intelligence.
- 1:00:52Speaker 9: And we found out later, thanks to Edward Snowden, they're
- 1:00:55Speaker 9: collecting every phone call, every text, everything that we have
- 1:00:59Speaker 9: going on. Every time we give a government, and I
- 1:01:03Speaker 9: don't care which one it is, this kind of power,
- 1:01:06Speaker 9: it's always abused. This is not a surprise. And we
- 1:01:10Speaker 9: always think that, well, we're going to get it right
- 1:01:12Speaker 9: this time. See, this is where we need to lean
- 1:01:15Speaker 9: on the founders' wisdom. The founders, when they put the
- 1:01:19Speaker 9: Constitution in place— understood that there was a long history
- 1:01:24Speaker 9: of governments, and they came to the conclusion that we
- 1:01:27Speaker 9: evidently forgot, you can't trust any of them. There are
- 1:01:31Speaker 9: God-given rights, God-given rights, the government shouldn't be able to
- 1:01:34Speaker 9: take away. And whenever they have things like innocent until
- 1:01:37Speaker 9: proven guilty or right to privacy, that means that we
- 1:01:41Speaker 9: understand every once in a while a bad guy is
- 1:01:44Speaker 9: going to get away, but the decision woven into our
- 1:01:47Speaker 9: Constitution is is that we would rather have a bad
- 1:01:52Speaker 9: person occasionally be turned loose than a good person being
- 1:01:56Speaker 9: locked up. We would rather not have 100% surveillance on
- 1:02:00Speaker 9: us all the time than to have this false blanket
- 1:02:06Speaker 9: of security. As Benjamin Franklin said, whoever trades their freedom
- 1:02:10Speaker 9: for security will have neither. And what concerns me is
- 1:02:14Speaker 9: I know that the left is behind this, but it
- 1:02:16Speaker 9: seems like, gosh, it seems like more than half the
- 1:02:19Speaker 9: people on the right.
- 1:02:20Speaker 8: Keep getting behind this.
- 1:02:21Speaker 9: And it seems like we've lost our way, our constitutional way.
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: When you say getting behind this left and right, what
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: specifically do you mean by this?
- 1:02:30Speaker 9: Flock cameras. Let's say this means we're going to trade
- 1:02:34Speaker 9: our freedom for security. And we keep going down this path.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: Well, Brad, that's where my confusion comes from, because there's
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: a whole, whole lot of left-wingers, including, oh, maybe Hamilton
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: County Sheriff McGuffey, who are against the flock cameras, too.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: So this isn't a right-wing, left-wing argument about using or
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: not using them. It seems to be widely embraced by
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: both sides. It's almost like it's one thing that both
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats are starting to agree on.
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: Is to not use them or to use them?
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: To not use them. This is the outrage that's resulted
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: in flock cameras being removed from cities like old Lebanon
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: most recently yesterday.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: Well, perhaps.
- 1:03:15Speaker 9: But if you were to take a look at flock cameras'
- 1:03:17Speaker 9: stock price, I would think that it's going to be
- 1:03:19Speaker 9: an upward trend.
- 1:03:21Speaker 8: Are they getting some pushback? Sure.
- 1:03:23Speaker 9: But I hope it continues to be pushback. So maybe
- 1:03:26Speaker 9: we're on the right track. But, you know, we can't
- 1:03:28Speaker 9: get rid of this Section 215. I heard Judge Napolitano
- 1:03:31Speaker 9: talk about it.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: I heard.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: That's kind of why I brought it up when Mike
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: was talking about it. It's like, okay, you know, it's
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: like you've got flock in your pocket, basically. You're recording everything.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: It is our choice, but, you know, the government does
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: have the power of a subpoena. Hopefully they go get
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: a warrant based on probable cause to collect all the
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: data that's in your phone and get it from Verizon
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: or whatever. So there always seems to be workarounds that
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: you can work within the confines of the Constitution, which
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: I totally believe in. probable cause and and a warrant
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: issued by a judge who's looking into whether or not
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: you got probable cause to believe a crime is in
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: the process of happening or has been committed you know
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: if that protection is in place then it fulfills the
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: constitutional requirements just this extra constitutional use of the data
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: that we all have problems with so and i get
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: it trust me i struggle with this one all day
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: long man i am on one side of the fence
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: one moment i'm on the other side the other I mean,
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: you can't deny that it helps solve crimes, and you
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: also can't deny that we are constantly surveilled and it's
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: out of our hands. I feel frustrated by it. So,
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: you know, it would be awesome, would it not, Jay,
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: if we could go back and sit down with the
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: founding fathers while they're contemplating all this and show them
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: what the world looks like in the future and kind
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: of speculate and wonder how they would have worded things
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: in the Constitution if they had an understanding about this
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: amazing and yet unbelievably frightening technology. 656. It's 706. And
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: a happy Wednesday to you. Listener Lunch Wednesday is again,
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- 1:05:22Speaker 2: Deep Bee every Wednesday beginning at 7.05 is right here.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Listen to the 55KRC Morning Show. Podcasts will be available
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: later at 55KRC. iHeart. com. It's the time of week we get
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: the big picture with our friend Jack Atherton, our collective friend,
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: me and the listening audience, and Joe Strecker. Jack, welcome
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: back to the show, my friend. I love having you
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: on the show.
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back, brother. I'd like to pay
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: tribute to 9-11 before we part, but Brian, could we
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: begin with something lighter? Absolutely.
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: Absolutely. This is your segment. You go wherever you want, Jack.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: I have ultimate trust in you. You will rue those words.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: But maybe not tonight. Tonight is the start of real
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: NFL football. Football that counts. The Bengals don't play until Sunday,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: but I'm already jazzed with a healthy Joe Kuhl, a
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: beefed-up defense. Still, friends, don't follow me in placing any bets.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: I don't bet, but I've been picking Cincinnati since 2022.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: only to see us miss the playoffs entirely for the
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: last three seasons.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good on delivering disappointment.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: Yeah, they have consistently, but I think it's going to end.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: One person I know who's made even worse predictions than
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: I do, Karl Marx. Karl was not a football fan.
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: He didn't even like going outdoors, and that was the
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: root of his problem. Marx, a German immigrant to England,
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: spent all of his time in the library of the
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: British Museum. He didn't take care of his wife and kids.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: He didn't earn a living. All Carl did was read
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: and predict revolutions, communist revolutions, in Great Britain and throughout
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Western Europe. For a brief moment, it looked like Carl
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: might be onto something. In 1848, Europe exploded. Poor and
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: middle-class people going back to the French Revolution in 1789
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: had hoped for new governments. Governments like America's constitutional republic.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: But Europeans instead died under a dictator, Napoleon. And then
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: after the fall of Napoleon, instead of reforming, Europe restored
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: its old regimes. So 1848 brought a tidal wave of
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: political unrest. Karl Marx and his benefactor, the guy who
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: kept them alive, Friedrich Engels, tried to ride that wave
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: by writing the Communist Manifesto. But their focus, Brian, was
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: not on kings and emperors. For these communists, the real
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: culprit was capitalism. The Industrial Revolution was revolutionizing everything from
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: farming to mining, textiles, transportation. The Industrial Revolution changed everything,
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: and even aristocrats could no longer rest fat and happy
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: on their lands. Free market capitalist economies now focused on
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: the new industrial cities. And that's where Karl Marx saw
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: his opening. Marx predicted that industrialization would increase misery. And
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: for a while, he was right. Everybody flocked to cities
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: that were rife with crime, disease, and exploitation. Read Charles Dickens'
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: novel called Hard Times, or Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: about murderous working conditions in cities like Manchester and Birmingham.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: As we've discussed, Brian, industrial revolutions are always hard. At first,
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: whether an ancient Sumerian where they invented the wheel and
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: musclemen who used to carry litters were thrown out of work,
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: or Detroit in the early 20th century, where newfangled automobiles
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: replaced the horse and buggy and blacksmiths. The fear being
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: spoke today is over AI and data centers. Some of
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: it is reasonable, some of it is frightening, but much
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: of that fear is funded by Red China because they
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: don't want competition for their data centers. Industrial transitions have
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: always been hard and Marxists today count on that just
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: as Karl Marx did. But, and this is a really
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: big but, Karl Marx was wrong. He lived until 1883
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: yet never got out of the reading room to see
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: how life was changing for the better. How unions were
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: forming and management was growing more reasonable. How factories were
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: becoming safer. How new and better jobs were being created.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: How children stopped working and went to school. Health standards increased.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: Life expectancy increased. Life got better. Except for the Marx family.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: Carl's mother, and this is a real quote, she wrote
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: that she wished her son... earned some capital instead of
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: just attacking it. Marx predicted communist revolutions would overtake Europe,
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: starting with the most industrialized nations. Instead, the only place
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: that suffered the communist revolution was one of the least
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: industrialized countries, Tsarist Russia. And even there, the communist revolution
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: was not led by peasants and shopkeepers. The leaders of
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: the Russian revolution were the same hypocrites. now leading the
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: Democrat Socialists of America, so-called intellectuals, brainwashed by Marx to
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: think that an all-knowing, all-powerful big government could redistribute property
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: and let everybody live equally. Instead, as George Orwell predicted,
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: some communists quickly became more equal than others. They became
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: today's Vladimir Putin and his cronies, Xi Jinping and to
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: pick out just one name from our own cohort.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: They earned their money the old-fashioned way, liberating it from
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: comrades who were content to be left with crumbs, so
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: long as those crumbs come free of charge from Big Brother. So,
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: football fans, here's the score. Go ahead and bet just
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: a few bucks on the Bengals if you agree with me,
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: but don't bet on those descendants of Karl Marx. Democrat
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: socialists of America. And that's what all of the Democrats
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: are today. What do you say, my libertarian friend?
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: Of course, I always agree with you, Jack. And, you know,
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: it's interesting. It's like everything. People at any given time
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: view the current reality as static, immovable, unchangeable. Nothing's going
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: to change. Ergo, we need to have some sort of
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: revolution or top-down transformation of society. Only government can deliver that.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: But that your industrial revolution point proves it is. Once
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: these businesses became really profitable, the terrible working conditions allowed
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: in democratic governments the change. People demanded change. You mentioned
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: they formed unions to bring about some change. OSHA goes
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: into effect, bringing about workplace obligations for safety. This is
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: what money and the democratic process allows to happen. It's
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: like environmentalism. If this country was not as wealthy as
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: it is, we probably would have a whole bunch of hot,
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: you know, surplus sites still laying around uncleaned up. The
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: money that we have, the profit we generated, the wealth
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: that we create through capitalism allows us to maybe take
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: a little of that massive wealth and clean stuff up.
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: The people demand it and the reforms come about and
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: businesses still remain profitable and in business under a capitalist system.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: It just all comes collapsing down when they take a
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: top-down approach and then you have to rely on government
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: to make life-altering decisions on our behalf. It's never worked out, Jack. No, exactly.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: You make it Sounds so obvious, but Marxism is on
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: the rise among young people today, not because Marx was
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: right about capitalism, much less the American idea of personal
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: freedom and responsibility protected by limited government. Marxism is on
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: the rise because generations of post-war American kids have been
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: spoiled and brainwashed, spoiled by their Depression-era parents and grandparents
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: who won World War II and and brought us prosperity,
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: brainwashed in schools and by woke pop culture, which has
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: now ruined at least three generations and counting. Education and
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: culture are where we have to fight this battle one
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: household at a time. I know we've talked about this before. Brian,
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: can I go on and say one word?
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: Of course.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: To honor the targets and responders and survivors of 9-11
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: 25 years ago. That sneak attack Should not have been
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: a surprise. The World Trade Center had already been attacked
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: by Islamo terrorists in 1993.
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: The blindshake.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: Then explosion didn't take down the towers, but it killed
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: six people. Ten years earlier, jihadists had bombed a marine
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: barracks in Beirut, murdering 241 service personnel. In 1996, the
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: jihadi truck bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, that
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: killed another 19 American service members. Then in 2000, one
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: year before 9-11, Al-Qaeda attacked the USS Cole, taking the
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: lives of 17 U.S. Navy sailors. How many warnings did
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: we need? Not about Islam, about radical Islam, the brand
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: of Islam the chance death to America, as well as
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: death to Israel, and more broadly, death to the West
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: and all of our values. And they mean it. In
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: June of 2025, President Donald J. Trump courageously degraded Iran's
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: nuclear capability. Then when we found out that they had
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: enough enriched uranium to build 11 nuclear bombs, he did
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: it again last February 28th and all through March. But then, Brian...
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: we started talking about peace talks with Iran's bloodthirsty, fanatical
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: mullahs and Revolutionary Guard who had been there since 1979. On-again,
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: off-again talks wasted within four months while rising oil prices
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: turned most of America against President Trump. The answer was
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: never boots on the ground. As you let me say, Brian,
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: for months. Look it up back in the podcasts. The
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: answer was always consistent economic strangulation. This finally may be coming.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: And I hope it's not too late to save the midterms.
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: But we must finish the job to honor the dead
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: of 9-11 and to save lives today.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: Another reason to get out and vote. Not that we
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: need any more. Jack Atherton put an exclamation point on it. November,
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: get out and vote. Stop this nonsense from happening. Jack Atherton,
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: brilliant as always. Appreciate you.
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: As you've been saying, hold your nose. Hold your nose,
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: hold your wallet, get out and vote.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what we're going to be going over with
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: Donovan O'Neill and Tim Ross from AFP at the bottom
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: of the hour. Hold your nose and vote Republican. A
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: message that Tom Zalastowski's been echoing every week. A message
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: that you're echoing that I will continue to echo until
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: the vote's over in November and hopefully, dear God, we
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: will do exactly that and stop this left-wing tide. Jack Atherton,
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: brilliant as always. I appreciate your time every week here
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: on the 55KRC Morning Show. Find the podcast, 55KRC. iHeart. com. Share
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: it with your friends and Get your friends to tune
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: into the radio every Wednesday at 7.05. Jack, up. It
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: is 7.30 here at 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday.
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: It's that time of the week we talk with Lee
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: Summon from Americans for Prosperity. Normally Donald O'Neill, but every
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: once in a while he'll do a sub. And this
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: morning I'm pleased to announce that AFP political director Tim
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: Ross is on the show to talk about some endorsements
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: here in the state of Ohio. Welcome, Tim. It's great
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: to have you on the program this morning.
- 1:17:23Speaker 8: Well, thanks for letting me sub in, Brian. Really appreciate it.
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: Oh, happy to do it. You know, we need to
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: change the pace every once in a while. Good morning, Donovan.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: It's okay. You don't want to get up out of
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: bed this morning, Donovan, huh? All right. Tim, you got
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: some new endorsements for Ohio, but I saw your statement
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: at americansforprosperity.org about your excitement about endorsing these General Assembly candidates.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: I guess considering the issues that the Americans for Prosperity
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: is wrestling with, including my listening audience, like, for example,
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: property taxes, When you endorse the candidates, are you having
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: specific discussions with them about the important issues that are
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: clearly identified on AFP's website? Oh, absolutely.
- 1:17:59Speaker 8: I mean, that's one of the better parts of the
- 1:18:01Speaker 8: job is traveling the state and talking to people that
- 1:18:04Speaker 8: want to fix the problems that are out there. You know,
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: you mentioned property tax. It's certainly one of the larger ones.
- 1:18:09Speaker 8: You know, school choice is another thing that we talk
- 1:18:11Speaker 8: to candidates about. It's very fulfilling to go around to
- 1:18:15Speaker 8: various corners of Ohio and talk to people that are
- 1:18:18Speaker 8: interested in tackling these things. That's why we're so excited
- 1:18:20Speaker 8: to have this most recent round of endorsements that we
- 1:18:25Speaker 8: announced yesterday.
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: Tim Ross, let's start with the Ohio Senate endorsed candidates.
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:18:31Speaker 8: So starting in central Ohio, we have Michelle Reynolds at
- 1:18:34Speaker 8: Senate District 3, big parts of Franklin County and a
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: couple of the surrounding counties. Michelle has been in the
- 1:18:42Speaker 8: Senate for four years now. She beat a Democratic incumbent,
- 1:18:45Speaker 8: which is tough to do, in that time has tackled
- 1:18:49Speaker 8: some big issues, including property tax. Also looking at an
- 1:18:52Speaker 8: issue that we're looking to get more involved in, which
- 1:18:55Speaker 8: is making housing more affordable. You know, we've set housing
- 1:18:58Speaker 8: policy out of reach and housing prices out of reach
- 1:19:01Speaker 8: for most young Americans and trying to dial that back,
- 1:19:04Speaker 8: get government out of the way and opening up some
- 1:19:06Speaker 8: opportunities there is something we're really excited about. So excited
- 1:19:09Speaker 8: to be supporting Senator Reynolds. And then the other state
- 1:19:12Speaker 8: Senate candidate that we announced yesterday is a someone I'm
- 1:19:15Speaker 8: sure that your listeners are familiar with from her time
- 1:19:18Speaker 8: running for the U.S. Senate and as state ORP chair
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: with Jane Tempkin, someone I've had the pleasure of knowing
- 1:19:25Speaker 8: for a number of years given my work in Stark
- 1:19:27Speaker 8: County over the years. Really smart, compassionate person, just has
- 1:19:31Speaker 8: been appointed to the Senate just a couple years ago
- 1:19:33Speaker 8: to fill a vacancy, and is doing great work, so
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: we're excited to support Jane as well.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: Are you sensing, again, I just kind of Looking at
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: the topics we're going to talk about today, one of which,
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: and maybe Joe summarized it this way, but hold your
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: nose and vote Republican. This is something I've been talking
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: with Tom Zawistowski from We the People Convention about. I
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: get this sense out there, and because you, Tim, and
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: everybody with AFP does all this door knocking, what the
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: temperature of the water is when you're talking with people
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: as you go around door knocking, are they in this...
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: damn it, I don't like any of them, I'm not
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: even going to bother mode, or is it kind of
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: better out there than we perceive based upon all this
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: concern that people keep expressing about people not going out
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: and voting? I think of the gubernatorial race, people have
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: told me quite frankly, you know, I'm not going to
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: vote for Vivek Ramaswamy, and my immediate response is, well,
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: are you voting for Amy Acton? The answer is, hell no,
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: I'd never vote for her, so, you know, not voting
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: for Vivek is a vote for Amy, I would argue,
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: but What is the sense that you get on the
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: door-to-door knocking?
- 1:20:38Speaker 8: So it's a midterm cycle. You know, I think if
- 1:20:41Speaker 8: you're in politics, you hear this quite a bit. You know,
- 1:20:43Speaker 8: the party that controls the White House in these midterm
- 1:20:47Speaker 8: cycles tend to do a little worse. There's an enthusiasm gap,
- 1:20:51Speaker 8: and I think certainly that is true in Ohio right now.
- 1:20:55Speaker 8: You know, people are frustrated, and rightfully so. There are
- 1:20:58Speaker 8: some significant problems out there, so candidates need to be
- 1:21:01Speaker 8: out there talking to people About solutions. So that's why
- 1:21:05Speaker 8: we're endorsing these candidates. But, yeah, we've got to get
- 1:21:07Speaker 8: that message out to people that are conservative minded. And
- 1:21:10Speaker 8: just like what you said, the importance of why each
- 1:21:13Speaker 8: of these candidates, each of these races is going to
- 1:21:16Speaker 8: have a marginal impact on their day to day lives.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: Huge impact, in fact. Well, it's with great delicacy before
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: we take a break and talk about the Ohio House
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: representative endorsements from AFP. I get the sense that maybe,
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: and maybe this is a bit of an overstatement, Trump
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: may be more of a liability for Republicans in this
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: election cycle than a benefit. I know his endorsements have
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: gone a long way, but with the war going on,
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: inflation problems, housing problems that you just pointed out, price
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: of gasoline is extraordinarily high. Those are some serious challenges,
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: and a lot of people are just looking directly at
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: Donald Trump for the blame.
- 1:21:50Speaker 8: Certainly some of that. I expect that we'll hear some
- 1:21:53Speaker 8: solutions out of Texas this week. I think a lot
- 1:21:58Speaker 8: of those efforts are going to be outlying a vision
- 1:22:00Speaker 8: as to why this path, voting for these candidates, voting
- 1:22:04Speaker 8: for conservatives up and down the ballot, is the right
- 1:22:06Speaker 8: thing to do to address problems. And there are problems
- 1:22:09Speaker 8: out there. That's why people are frustrated. I drove into
- 1:22:12Speaker 8: Columbus today, and I passed a few gas station signs
- 1:22:15Speaker 8: that said $ 4 on them. That's certainly too high, and
- 1:22:18Speaker 8: I think people are looking for a solution on that
- 1:22:20Speaker 8: and rather quickly. So hopefully that's what we hear out
- 1:22:23Speaker 8: of Houston with the convention this week, and I expect
- 1:22:26Speaker 8: we will.
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: Tim Ross, we'll bring him back, political director for Americans
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: for Prosperity. 740 here, 55KRCD Talk Station, Americans for Prosperity,
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: making it easy for us to get involved as we
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: fast approach November. I'm still just spinning from the reality
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: that Republicans are struggling to gain traction as we get
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: into November, considering what's going on in the world with
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialist America. On the program today, substituting for
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: Donovan O'Neill, he is Americans for Prosperity political director Tim Ross. Tim,
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: before we get to the Republican endorsements in Ohio for representatives,
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: I saw that AFP was in Chicago over the weekend.
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: You guys put a truck outside the Democratic Socialist of
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: America Socialism 2026 convention. I honestly I'm old enough to
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: just stare in disbelief, Tim Ross, that they actually have
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: a socialism 2026 convention anywhere. But this is what we're
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: staring at. How did that event go? If I can
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: put you on the spot on that one. I think
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: it will.
- 1:23:24Speaker 8: Well, it's an opportunity to to highlight why that is
- 1:23:27Speaker 8: the wrong approach for America. And you're seeing it more
- 1:23:31Speaker 8: and more, you know, especially on the federal level. a
- 1:23:33Speaker 8: number of candidates running for Congress and the Senate that
- 1:23:37Speaker 8: are about socialists. Something that would have been absolutely unthinkable
- 1:23:42Speaker 8: a number of years ago is something that the Democratic
- 1:23:45Speaker 8: Party is openly embracing now. The people that I have
- 1:23:50Speaker 8: spoken to that were involved in that said it went
- 1:23:52Speaker 8: very well. We're in touch with our brothers and sisters
- 1:23:57Speaker 8: up in AFP Michigan, and they're dealing with this fight
- 1:24:02Speaker 8: on their doorstep right now. They've got a candidate there
- 1:24:04Speaker 8: that is running on a socialist message, and I think
- 1:24:06Speaker 8: Michigan is going to reject that, and we're going to
- 1:24:10Speaker 8: reject that around the country in November.
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to pray the autoworkers haven't gone socialist
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: on us. I mean, Lord Almighty, they should at least
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: recognize their jobs are on the line.
- 1:24:18Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: All right, so let's pivot over to.
- 1:24:24Speaker 8: I'm sorry, go ahead.
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: Oh, I was just going to say, let's pivot over
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: to the Ohio House of Representatives endorsed candidates from AFP.
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: Let's start with Denise D'Angelo.
- 1:24:31Speaker 8: Yeah, so Denise is a great candidate running in the
- 1:24:34Speaker 8: 10th District, which is southern Franklin County, the Grove City area.
- 1:24:38Speaker 8: Just a person that was involved in her business and
- 1:24:40Speaker 8: got a passion to run. Originally ran for school boards,
- 1:24:45Speaker 8: currently serving on school boards. So very passionate about those issues,
- 1:24:48Speaker 8: about making sure that every child has the opportunity to
- 1:24:50Speaker 8: go attend an institution where they are best suited to learn.
- 1:24:55Speaker 8: So we're really excited to be supporting Denise in that election.
- 1:24:59Speaker 8: She's taking on the Democratic incumbent, which is tough to do,
- 1:25:01Speaker 8: but we think she has the ability to flip that seat.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: Now, do these endorsements from AFP come with maybe a
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: donation to the campaign?
- 1:25:11Speaker 8: So we actually spend on behalf of the candidates. We
- 1:25:14Speaker 8: will run our own independent messaging and tell people why
- 1:25:17Speaker 8: we think they are the best choice in November. That
- 1:25:21Speaker 8: could be digital ads. We can do some direct television,
- 1:25:26Speaker 8: those ads that play on when you're trying to watch
- 1:25:27Speaker 8: a YouTube video. We can do some of those, and
- 1:25:30Speaker 8: we'll do some of those for the candidates, and then
- 1:25:33Speaker 8: direct mail.
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: Fair enough. Now pivoting over to House District 17.
- 1:25:39Speaker 8: Yeah, State Representative Mike DeVille, I'm not sure if he's
- 1:25:41Speaker 8: had a chance to join you on the show, but
- 1:25:44Speaker 8: has been deeply involved in Medicaid reform in his first
- 1:25:47Speaker 8: term back to the House. He had previously served for
- 1:25:51Speaker 8: six years and now is back for his second stint,
- 1:25:54Speaker 8: just hitting the ground running and tackling some of the
- 1:25:56Speaker 8: major issues, including the fraud that's going on in the
- 1:25:58Speaker 8: Medicaid system. A phenomenal member of the Ohio House, running
- 1:26:04Speaker 8: in southern Cuyahoga County, kind of the Strongsville, North Royalton area.
- 1:26:08Speaker 8: So very excited to be supporting him up in that
- 1:26:12Speaker 8: neck of the woods. Just a little bit over in
- 1:26:15Speaker 8: Lorain County, there's Cliff Winkle, another business owner, owns an
- 1:26:18Speaker 8: electrical company, also on North Ridgeville City Council, North Royalton
- 1:26:23Speaker 8: City Council, excuse me, I get those two confused. But yeah,
- 1:26:26Speaker 8: common sense guy has had to deal with burdensome regulation
- 1:26:32Speaker 8: as a business owner. So I was very eager to
- 1:26:34Speaker 8: come to Columbus and help dial some of those things back,
- 1:26:37Speaker 8: make it easier to do business in Ohio.
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: Good.
- 1:26:39Speaker 8: So very excited to be supporting Cliff. He was most
- 1:26:43Speaker 8: recently appointed to the ballot, so that race is coming
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: online a little late, but he's doing a great job.
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: All right. Hitting over to House District 61 with Sean Stevens.
- 1:26:53Speaker 8: Yeah, Sean had previously served a stint in the House
- 1:26:56Speaker 8: and is coming back again, Delaware County and a little
- 1:26:58Speaker 8: bit of Knox County. Again, business owner, you see a
- 1:27:01Speaker 8: common theme here, someone that has dealt with how oppressive
- 1:27:05Speaker 8: government can affect everyday life. We have business owners that
- 1:27:09Speaker 8: are providing value to people, providing jobs, and the more
- 1:27:13Speaker 8: the government gets in the way of those things, the
- 1:27:15Speaker 8: less able to do those things they are. So Sean's
- 1:27:18Speaker 8: a great example of that, is going to do great work,
- 1:27:20Speaker 8: awesome person, and a good friend of the organization. We
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: like Sean a lot. Moving over to House District 72,
- 1:27:29Speaker 8: State Representative Heidi Workman, also serving in her freshman term
- 1:27:33Speaker 8: in the Ohio House of Representatives, has tackled technology issues primarily. So,
- 1:27:40Speaker 8: you know, we're seeing a lot of talk come online
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: about AI and how that's going to affect our day-to-day
- 1:27:47Speaker 8: data centers. You know, those are always a hot political topic,
- 1:27:52Speaker 8: trying to find a reasonable path to deal with that topic.
- 1:27:56Speaker 8: great candidate, great member, uh, had, uh, gotten here to, uh,
- 1:28:00Speaker 8: the Ohio house of representatives by beating a more liberal incumbent, uh,
- 1:28:04Speaker 8: Republican in, uh, the primaries in 2024, uh, which is, uh, again,
- 1:28:09Speaker 8: just beating an incumbent in general is an incredibly hard
- 1:28:12Speaker 8: thing to do in politics, but she did it and
- 1:28:15Speaker 8: is running a great race. Uh, and it's been a
- 1:28:17Speaker 8: great representative since.
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: You got one more kind of round.
- 1:28:20Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:28:21Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:28:21Speaker 8: Round out the list, uh, up on, on the lake, uh,
- 1:28:23Speaker 8: kind of the, uh, Ottawa, Ottawa County, Erie County, that
- 1:28:29Speaker 8: kind of north central area. Caleb Stidham, he's the treasurer
- 1:28:33Speaker 8: of Erie County right now, the county treasurer. And we
- 1:28:36Speaker 8: talked about property taxes to kind of kick off. And
- 1:28:40Speaker 8: this is an area where Erie County has led the way.
- 1:28:42Speaker 8: They're eliminating unvoted increases in people's property taxes and are
- 1:28:47Speaker 8: the number one county in dealing with this topic. So
- 1:28:50Speaker 8: I'm also not sure if you've had a chance to
- 1:28:51Speaker 8: have State Representative David Thomas on the show. And if not,
- 1:28:55Speaker 8: a great person to talk to about the property tax issue.
- 1:28:57Speaker 8: He described Caleb as his reinforcements on this topic. So
- 1:29:00Speaker 8: Caleb is going to do great work on that and
- 1:29:02Speaker 8: a litany of other issues.
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: And which website are you directing my listeners to today, Tim?
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: Because I know AFP has several of them. I'm staring
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: at the americansforprosperity.org list that you have posted. But where
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: else should we go and where else would you direct
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: my listeners to get engaged, Tim?
- 1:29:17Speaker 8: BuckeyeBlueprint.com is where we tell people to check out the news,
- 1:29:21Speaker 8: sign up to get involved. If you like what you hear,
- 1:29:24Speaker 8: we have chapters all over the state of Ohio where
- 1:29:27Speaker 8: you can come hear about the issues that matter most
- 1:29:31Speaker 8: and get involved. Not just, as Donovan would say, just
- 1:29:33Speaker 8: give him a shout out since I'm taking his time.
- 1:29:36Speaker 8: Don't just throw your shoe at the television screen. Put
- 1:29:39Speaker 8: on your shoe and get to work. We offer people
- 1:29:43Speaker 8: the opportunity to do that and not just be mad.
- 1:29:46Speaker 8: don't just be mad. Go out and change the way
- 1:29:48Speaker 8: things are done, and that's how we affect positive outcomes
- 1:29:51Speaker 8: in Ohio.
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: And by not voting, you're going to ensure that the
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: worst possible candidate gets elected. So let's not make that mistake, right?
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: Tim Ross, he's the AFP political director. It's BlutkeyeBlueprint.com. Check
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: it out and get engaged. Tim, thank you so much
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: for what you and Americans for Prosperity are doing throughout
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, and I applaud your work, and
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: you're always welcome here on the 55KRC Morning Show, sir.
- 1:30:13Speaker 8: Brian, it's been a pleasure. Thank you very much. Have
- 1:30:14Speaker 8: a good rest of your morning.
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: My pleasure, indeed, and my listening audience's pleasure as well.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: Thank you. It's 8.06 here at 55KRC. We talk stationing.
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: Very happy Wednesday. Extra special. Boy, I've been just putting
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: smiles on my face all morning. Looking forward to listening
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: to lunch. And I saw on the rundown this morning
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: when I came in, just my smile lit up. I'm
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: just really happy to welcome back to the 55KRC morning show. Congressman,
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: we can still call him that for a while, Thomas Massey,
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: my friend. It is so nice having you on the
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: show again.
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: Great to be on, Brian.
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: And perfect time, too, all the rage these days, getting
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: rid of flock cameras. Most recently, yesterday, we had Lebanon
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: City Council here in Ohio voted to remove all 20
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: of its flock cameras, not because of law enforcement abuse,
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: because of, well, flock is apparently keeping data. We don't
- 1:31:00Speaker 2: know where they're selling the data. Obviously, some serious privacy concerns.
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: And my libertarian friend, I know you are all about
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: preventing the surveillance state. And so you have this, what
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: is it, Flock Off Act? Yes.
- 1:31:14Speaker 8: Yeah, be careful. The FCC.
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: I know. I have to use the dump button on myself.
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: So Flock Off Act. What does this hope to accomplish?
- 1:31:26Speaker 8: Well, Flock Off is.
- 1:31:28Speaker 3: In response to my constituents and, frankly, people all over
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: the country who are upset about the mass surveillance that's
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: being enabled.
- 1:31:36Speaker 8: By Flock cameras.
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: By the way, there are other brands of cameras that
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: do the same thing, and my bill covers them all.
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: but we thought Flockoff would be the best name for
- 1:31:47Speaker 3: the bill. What the bill does, it doesn't ban these cameras.
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: I don't have that power.
- 1:31:55Speaker 8: Congress does not have that power.
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: States and cities still have the authority to, you know,
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: infringe on your rights in this way, if you will.
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: I don't think they have the constitutional authority to But
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: we don't have the ability to ban a technology like
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: this nationwide. So what my bill does, it's very simple.
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: It says we're not going to use any federal funds
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: for cameras like the flock cameras that are in real
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: time monitoring license plates of innocent Americans.
- 1:32:30Speaker 8: Some of them go further.
- 1:32:31Speaker 3: Than that and do facial recognition. It's a dystopian future
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: that we're looking at with these cameras. So no funding
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: for you. If your police department or your city wants
- 1:32:41Speaker 3: to put these in, don't ask the feds for the
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: money to do it.
- 1:32:45Speaker 8: And also, it does prohibit.
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: The feds from doing it or interacting with these systems.
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: Well, that's power of the purse. I guess I'm kind
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: of curious since obviously I think your bill suggests and
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: the nature of it suggests that money is coming from
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: the federal government to fund various flock camera systems around
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: this country. Is that pursuant to a grant? Is it
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: picking and choosing who gets federal funds, like the picking
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: of winners and losers, which is typical of the federal government?
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: How are these grants awarded, or are these funds awarded?
- 1:33:16Speaker 8: Somebody was incredulous.
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: They thought that the feds aren't doing this, so they
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: asked GROC, which is the Artificial Intelligence Fund Act that
- 1:33:24Speaker 3: everybody seems to rely on for authority. They said, GROC,
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: is this really happening? Which programs? And GROC listed about
- 1:33:33Speaker 3: eight different federal pipelines of money that go to cities
- 1:33:37Speaker 3: and police.
- 1:33:38Speaker 8: Departments for which you could spend this money on flock cameras,
- 1:33:42Speaker 8: and it's happening.
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I've always said this about
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: the Department of Justice and the FBI. They sit there
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: in front of us in the Judiciary Committee, and they'll
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: say things. When we ask them a question, they'll stall,
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: and sometimes they'll say, it's our policy not to.
- 1:34:00Speaker 8: Answer that question.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: It's, you know... I turned to Jim Jordan, and I've
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: told him this several times. If we would just withhold
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: funding for one toner cartridge, these buffoons, they would start
- 1:34:13Speaker 3: singing like a bird, and they would tell us what
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: we want to know. So that's the lever you have
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: here is the money. Follow the money and cut off
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: the money. I really don't think that they will spend
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: the money if they have to spend their own money
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: on this.
- 1:34:32Speaker 5: A lot of them won't.
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: Well, that's typically the case. I think we've seen a
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: pattern develop along those lines over the years, Congressman Massey.
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, and I have to raise this
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: because I've been bringing it up regularly. Any abuse under these,
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: with the flock system, we've had officers abusing it, you know,
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: finding girlfriends and searching for people that have no connection
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: with law enforcement, clear abuses. So we know that it's
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: out there. But it seems to me the argument against
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: flaw cameras, any abuse cannot be tolerated. If these can
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: be abused, then they must be abolished completely. I guess
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: I wonder where that same argument is for voter fraud, because,
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: you know, we have found ways people can violate or
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: can break the law and still vote unlawfully and illegally
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: in elections. And yet, you know, oh, that just doesn't
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: happen that much. So it's not worthy of dealing with.
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: I don't know how you can reconcile those two positions, congressman.
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: Well, and just imagine if they had flock cameras during
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: COVID to enforce lockdowns. Remember, they said you couldn't cross
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: from the state of Kentucky to the state of Ohio
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: and come back, that you would have to take like
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: a two-week or three-week, four-week time out.
- 1:35:47Speaker 8: It was ridiculous.
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: And the only reason they couldn't make that stick is
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: they didn't have things like Flock to enforce it. Now,
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: in the state of Kentucky, they sent state troopers to
- 1:35:58Speaker 3: church parking lots during services, and they collected license plate information. Now,
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: they had to do it manually, right? So they couldn't
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: do every church. There's too many churches and not enough
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: state police. And that was clearly– that was tyrannical. It
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: was uncalled for. You may disagree with me on that,
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: but it was eventually ruled unconstitutional. They lost– Governor Beshear
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: lost a famous case here in Kentucky.
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: T.J.
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: Roberts, now state rep, was the plaintiff who brought the case.
- 1:36:35Speaker 3: I would say defended it maybe into defending his rights.
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: But imagine if they had flock cameras what they could do.
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: But when I drove to D.C., I drove my car
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: against all of these rules and regulations. I drove it
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: to D.C. to object to the CARES Act, and I
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: forced them to assemble and take that vote in person.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: It wouldn't be possible if the flock cameras and the
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: license plate readers existed for those purposes. And then the
- 1:37:04Speaker 3: other thing is people say, well, if you're not doing
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: anything wrong, you shouldn't worry about Well, then why does
- 1:37:10Speaker 3: the government redact everything if they're not doing anything wrong?
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: Well, exactly. And then, of course, you paint a dystopian
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: scenario considering the COVID-19 insanity we lived through and actually
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: abided by, which is crazy. But what abuses can be
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: easily envisioned with these systems in place? I get it
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: all day long. I truly do. I mean, they're great
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: at law enforcement, but therein lies the challenge. What laws
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: are being enforced? Who has the keys to power, and
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: what are they looking for? That's the dystopian component of it.
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: All right, so pivoting over, I think we have some time.
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: We can dive on into the Prime Act. And you've
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: been an advocate for this for a long time. It
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: exempts from federal inspection animals and meats that are slaughtered
- 1:37:53Speaker 2: and prepared for custom at animal slaughter facilities for distribution
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: just within a state. So we're not involved with interstate
- 1:38:00Speaker 2: commerce here. And states do have their own laws with
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: regard to food safety and preparation, don't they, Congressman Massey?
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: Why can't we slaughter our own cows next door?
- 1:38:09Speaker 3: Correct. There are small custom meat processing facilities that cut
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: up less beef in a night than Kroger's does, you know,
- 1:38:19Speaker 3: in a day, or that a steakhouse does in a day.
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: And how are those inspected? Do you have to have
- 1:38:26Speaker 3: a USDA inspector at Kroger's behind the meat counter? No.
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: Do you have to have one at a steakhouse? No.
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: What do you have? You have local inspections.
- 1:38:37Speaker 8: You have health.
- 1:38:37Speaker 3: Inspectors from the counties in most states, they will go,
- 1:38:42Speaker 3: they'll give a grade, they can post it, A plus,
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: A minus, 90%. You can walk in the establishment, look
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: at their grade and say, I'm not feeling like a
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: B minus Chinese meal buffet tonight. I'm going to walk
- 1:38:57Speaker 3: out and go somewhere else. Those are the kind of things,
- 1:39:01Speaker 3: ways that it should.
- 1:39:02Speaker 8: Be regulated at that scale.
- 1:39:04Speaker 3: Now, If you've got a hot dog factory with trainloads
- 1:39:08Speaker 3: of animals coming in one side and Oscar Mayer Wieners
- 1:39:11Speaker 3: coming out the other side, yeah, there needs to be
- 1:39:15Speaker 3: an inspector there, possibly a federal inspector. And so we
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: don't exempt those because those are going across state lines.
- 1:39:23Speaker 3: And so with the PRIME Act, it actually is an acronym.
- 1:39:25Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever said it on your show.
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: Processor Revival Intrastate Meat Exemption. That's the P-R-I-M-E. in the
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: prime act. And so you've heard so much in the news.
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: First of all, Trump wanted to lower the price of beef.
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: He said, we're going to import 300,000 metric tons of beef. Actually,
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: you have to multiply that by 2000 and you'll realize
- 1:39:52Speaker 3: how many millions, hundreds of millions of pounds he's talking about.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: It's like 600 million.
- 1:39:59Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: Pounds of hamburger.
- 1:40:02Speaker 8: Okay.
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: That's, Eight quarter pounders of meat for every man, woman,
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: and child.
- 1:40:07Speaker 8: That is how much.
- 1:40:10Speaker 3: Meat product, ground meat product that he's proposing to bring in.
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: And people say, oh, Congressman Mezzi, I thought you didn't
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: like tariffs.
- 1:40:18Speaker 8: This is the free market.
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: This is not the free market. He's cutting a deal
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: with just a few countries, and part of the deal
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: requires him to bring it in at 75% of the
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: market price. He's setting the price. He's setting the quantity.
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: He's setting the source. And he's setting the product. It's
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: not steak. It's ground beef, which, by the way, is
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: going to make it harder for American processors and farmers
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: to sell the whole carcass if you're distorting the market
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: by bringing in only part of the kind of animal
- 1:40:48Speaker 3: that's sold. Because you have to sell the whole animal
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: when you've got one up in the United States, right?
- 1:40:54Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:40:56Speaker 3: So the PRIMAC solves all this.
- 1:40:59Speaker 8: It solves it.
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: And it's also– the president made two executive orders. Those
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: were bait and switch. Those were– I call them nothing burgers.
- 1:41:10Speaker 3: One of the executive orders was supposed to return country
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: of origin labeling.
- 1:41:14Speaker 8: This is something– I've been.
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: On your show long enough that in 2015 they repealed
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: country of origin labeling.
- 1:41:21Speaker 8: I'm sure we could.
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: Go back and find where I was railing against the
- 1:41:24Speaker 3: repeal of that. Well– Trump's executive order doesn't put country
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: of origin labeling back in. It says they're going to
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: study the problem for 90 days. By the way, the
- 1:41:34Speaker 3: 300,000 metric tons of beef comes in over the next
- 1:41:38Speaker 3: 90 days. The election happens in the next 90 days.
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: And after 90 days of studying this, they might, it
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: says may do something.
- 1:41:46Speaker 8: The executive order says may in three places.
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: They're not going to, if the law allows, the law
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: doesn't allow, Congress sets the law. And Congress repealed the law.
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: He can't put it in place. It was a big
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: nothing burger fake.
- 1:41:59Speaker 2: All right, we'll pause, bring Congressman Massey back, answering a question.
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: Who is against the idea of local processing since seemingly
- 1:42:07Speaker 2: with reduced shipping charges, you don't have to rely on
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: diesel fuel to get from point A to point B.
- 1:42:11Speaker 2: Everybody's into local, and we'd be able to see our
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: cows there. 821-55-KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: with Congressman Massey. Love having him on the show. I'm
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: going to miss you like you have no idea, Congressman Massey. Now, okay,
- 1:42:27Speaker 2: real quick, who would be against the idea of local
- 1:42:30Speaker 2: processing of beef? Unless they're in bed with one of the, what,
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: three major slaughterhouses in the United States, the sort of
- 1:42:36Speaker 2: oligopoly they've got going anyway. And also, who would be
- 1:42:39Speaker 2: against country of origin labeling? Damn it, I want to
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: know where my food comes from.
- 1:42:43Speaker 3: Okay, well, everyone, remember in the first segment of this show,
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: we talked about follow the money. Yeah.
- 1:42:52Speaker 8: The flock-off bill?
- 1:42:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: Well, the biggest donor to Trump's inauguration, $ 5 million they gave,
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: is JBS, the biggest beef processor in the world, the
- 1:43:06Speaker 3: head of the oligarchy as far as beef processing goes.
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: And they are from Brazil. They're Brazilian-owned. And then I
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: noticed that the president's press announcement, he had ranchers behind
- 1:43:19Speaker 3: him on the right, and ranchers behind him on the left, who,
- 1:43:22Speaker 3: by the way, they had to get on that plane
- 1:43:24Speaker 3: and go there before they knew what was in the
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: executive order, right? They must have looked like somebody shot
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: their dog.
- 1:43:35Speaker 8: When they found out what was going on.
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: But the guy right directly behind him was Zippy Duvall,
- 1:43:41Speaker 3: who is the.
- 1:43:42Speaker 8: Biggest ag lobbyist.
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: He's the president of Farm Bureau. And Farm Bureau, I'm
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: going to call them out. They've got a lot of
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: great members. People get their insurance from them, a lot
- 1:43:54Speaker 3: of great county-level Farm Bureau groups. But at the federal level,
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: they are screwing cattlemen and beef farmers because they were
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: in favor of getting rid of country of origin labels.
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: They have been in favor of electronic ID tags for cattle,
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: which is going to verticalize the industry. They are in
- 1:44:16Speaker 3: favor of the beef checkoff program, which robs a dollar
- 1:44:20Speaker 3: from every farmer every time they sell an animal. And
- 1:44:25Speaker 3: they are against any change in the regulation of meat processing.
- 1:44:32Speaker 3: And they predominantly represent the row crops. They're not like
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. which is pure evil, right?
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: The Farm Bureau has a conflict of interest. They don't
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: really represent vegetable growers.
- 1:44:51Speaker 8: Or dairy or beef.
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: They're really just about corn and soybeans. And so they're
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: not looking out for beef. In fact, they're on the
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: wrong side of beef. But National Cattlemen's Beef Association is
- 1:45:03Speaker 3: the worst because if you read that name, And again,
- 1:45:07Speaker 3: they have some county organizations that are pretty good. If
- 1:45:10Speaker 3: you read that name, you would think they're up there
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: fighting for you at the federal level.
- 1:45:14Speaker 8: No, they are.
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: Fighting against the Prime Act. They're the worst. They're worse
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: than Farm Bureau. So that's why this is not going
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: to happen.
- 1:45:24Speaker 2: Interesting revelation.
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: But I got some good news. I got a pilot
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: program for the Prime Act in the House Farm Bill.
- 1:45:32Speaker 3: And we just need to get it, which hasn't passed yet.
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: The Senate Farm Bill does not have a pilot program
- 1:45:38Speaker 3: for the Prime Act in it. But we're working on
- 1:45:40Speaker 3: some senators over there to get that language in there
- 1:45:44Speaker 3: so that it can become law.
- 1:45:46Speaker 8: And that's the way you got to do it.
- 1:45:47Speaker 3: You can't do all this stuff by executive order.
- 1:45:50Speaker 2: No, you can't. And a shocking revelation here in the
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: morning show, Congressman Massey, that money has an influence in politics.
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: Hmm.
- 1:45:56Speaker 2: Real quick here, why would anybody be against country of origin?
- 1:45:58Speaker 2: And can I impose upon you to stick around to
- 1:46:00Speaker 2: talk about Epstein in the next segment? Yes. Okay, wonderful.
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: So wait in the wings for that, folks. It's coming.
- 1:46:05Speaker 2: But real quick on the country of origin labeling. Again,
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: I find that's a very valuable piece of information. You know,
- 1:46:12Speaker 2: I look at it with seafood. I can see what
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: country the seafood comes from. And I don't want farm-raised
- 1:46:16Speaker 2: crab coming from the waters of some polluted area or
- 1:46:20Speaker 2: outside of Thailand. So I can say no on that
- 1:46:22Speaker 2: because it's right there. What about other meats? Right.
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: We still have country of origin labeling on seafood and chicken,
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: as it should be, and on cell phones and cars
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: and food. Like, literally, one of the only things we
- 1:46:41Speaker 3: don't have it on is beef and pork, and it
- 1:46:43Speaker 3: got repealed in 2015. And these are.
- 1:46:46Speaker 8: The greedy meat packers.
- 1:46:47Speaker 5: This is the oligarchy.
- 1:46:49Speaker 3: They wanted to bring in beef from South America and Canada, calves.
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: And in Ohio and Kentucky, your listening area, Indiana as well,
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: we have a bunch of brood cows and we typically
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: raise calves and then those go to feedlots. They were
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: trying to undercut the calf producers in the United States
- 1:47:10Speaker 3: by bringing the calves from overseas or outside our borders
- 1:47:14Speaker 3: and then raising them on feedlots and butchering them and
- 1:47:18Speaker 3: calling it USDA and fooling the consumer. Here's why you
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: should care. Even the U.S. Olympic Association issued an advisory
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: several years ago that Olympians should not eat meat when
- 1:47:30Speaker 3: they're overseas. They should bring it from the United States. Otherwise,
- 1:47:34Speaker 3: they may fail their anabolic steroid test.
- 1:47:37Speaker 2: Oh, great.
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: Because they are illegally, even though there are rules against
- 1:47:42Speaker 3: it overseas, they don't follow the rules. And if you cheat,
- 1:47:48Speaker 3: you win if you're in another country.
- 1:47:50Speaker 8: And so that's what they do. And, in fact, some
- 1:47:53Speaker 8: of this beef, we don't know.
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: Where it's coming from yet, but we know some countries
- 1:47:57Speaker 3: have rejected other countries' beef. I'm wondering if we're getting
- 1:48:00Speaker 3: the secondhand beef that's been rejected by other countries.
- 1:48:05Speaker 2: Well, if we only had country of labeling on there,
- 1:48:07Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to worry about that. Sounds like a
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: solid idea for me, Congressman Massey.
- 1:48:11Speaker 3: Well, and you can choose. If you want to buy
- 1:48:14Speaker 3: the $ 3- pound stuff from, you know, Argentina, okay, great. And
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: if you want $ 5 grass-fed raised in the Midwest, then
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: you can know where it came from.
- 1:48:25Speaker 2: I want some of that Congressman Massey Commonwealth beef on
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: my table. I know what that tastes like. That's solid stuff, sir.
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: I call it wangus. I call it wangus.
- 1:48:34Speaker 3: The cross between Wagyu and Angus, yeah.
- 1:48:37Speaker 2: That's great. Pause for a moment. We are going to
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: find out why is this trip necessary. Epstein Files Transparency Act,
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: Mark 2. Don't go away. 55KRC, the talk station. 831
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: on 55KRC, the talk station. Ryan Thomas with Congressman Thomas Massey.
- 1:48:55Speaker 2: What a pleasure. Lots of comments from our listening audience.
- 1:48:59Speaker 2: Congressman Massey about how much people are going to miss
- 1:49:01Speaker 2: you when you're gone. You know, I.
- 1:49:05Speaker 2: It's as if more trolls came out of the woodwork
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: after the election, Congressman Massey, than you had before the election.
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: I don't know how you deal with that. Go ahead.
- 1:49:14Speaker 3: Well, look, I thought on May 20th, after my election,
- 1:49:20Speaker 3: my primary, and I lost it, I thought, well, at
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: least the paid army of trolls and bots will go away.
- 1:49:26Speaker 8: But they doubled down.
- 1:49:27Speaker 2: They did.
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: They are spending lots of money online.
- 1:49:31Speaker 8: They're literally warehouses of trolls.
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: That are on there because they're worried I'll do something bigger.
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: And they're going to just keep laying down the suppressive
- 1:49:43Speaker 3: fire on me, but.
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: It's not going to work. Heaven forbid we get country
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: of origin labeling for our meat and our chicken out
- 1:49:51Speaker 2: in the world. God, you're such a danger to society,
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: Congressman Massey. I don't know how you sleep with yourself. Anyway,
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: pivoting over. Now, I guess... The Epstein Files Transparency Act,
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: overwhelmingly passed by Congress and signed into law, wasn't quite enough.
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: You had to create a new cause of action dealing
- 1:50:09Speaker 2: with that pesky legal concept called standing. Is that the
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: reason for the Epstein Files Transparency Act 2?
- 1:50:14Speaker 3: That is one big reason we created it. Let me
- 1:50:20Speaker 3: start with another reason, and then we'll get into standing,
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: cause of action, whatever the legal terms of art are.
- 1:50:27Speaker 3: You're an attorney, so you know this. One, I wrote
- 1:50:32Speaker 3: this bill, my staff and I wrote this bill in
- 1:50:35Speaker 3: conjunction with the survivors' lawyers and the New Mexico attorney general. Now,
- 1:50:43Speaker 3: you may say, why is the New Mexico attorney general
- 1:50:46Speaker 3: interested in the Epstein files? Because there's a giant ranch
- 1:50:51Speaker 3: in New Mexico called Zorro Ranch where a lot of
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: crimes occurred.
- 1:50:59Speaker 8: There were more visitors to Zorro.
- 1:51:02Speaker 3: Ranch than there were to Epstein Island. And it's like
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: a crime scene. It's still there, preserved. Jeffrey Epstein's books
- 1:51:12Speaker 3: are still on the shelves. The painting of Delaine is
- 1:51:15Speaker 3: still on the wall. And crimes occurred there for which
- 1:51:20Speaker 3: the statute of limitations has not expired. There are crimes
- 1:51:24Speaker 3: that don't have statute of limitations. They are state crimes.
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: And the state attorney general in New Mexico wants to
- 1:51:30Speaker 3: prosecute these crimes, and he.
- 1:51:33Speaker 8: Wants access to the Epstein files.
- 1:51:36Speaker 3: And he's got to have the unredacted versions to give
- 1:51:39Speaker 3: the judge. They don't have to release them publicly. He
- 1:51:42Speaker 3: needs these in his hands to convict– to investigate, prosecute,
- 1:51:49Speaker 3: and convict the criminals. And I asked him.
- 1:51:53Speaker 8: I'm like, well– doesn't the U.S.
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: Attorney General just cooperate usually? Like, what usually happens in
- 1:52:01Speaker 3: an instance like this? And he says every single time.
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: He said it's like it might take you a week
- 1:52:06Speaker 3: or two, but any time you need a file from
- 1:52:09Speaker 3: the feds, you know, the states need a file from
- 1:52:12Speaker 3: the feds, the feds will give it to him. He's
- 1:52:14Speaker 3: never seen anything like this in his life. Todd Blanch
- 1:52:18Speaker 3: will not allow him access to the files that he
- 1:52:21Speaker 3: needs to prosecute these crimes. And we're saying if Todd
- 1:52:25Speaker 3: Blanch is not going to prosecute these crimes as the
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: chief law enforcement officer in the United States, then let
- 1:52:34Speaker 3: the state attorneys general do it.
- 1:52:36Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:52:37Speaker 8: And I suspect there are.
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: Also crimes in Florida and crimes in New York where
- 1:52:44Speaker 3: those attorneys general could prosecute. And so that's what this
- 1:52:50Speaker 3: bill does. First, I think that's the most important thing
- 1:52:54Speaker 3: this bill does is it allows these crimes to be
- 1:52:57Speaker 3: prosecuted under state law and state courts. Next, it gives
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: standing to three, as you were saying before, to three
- 1:53:06Speaker 3: categories or groups of people. Number one, the survivors get standing.
- 1:53:11Speaker 3: Todd Blanch is withholding the survivors' own forms, the 302
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: forms that the FBI has to fill out Every time
- 1:53:21Speaker 3: they interview a victim or a witness, it's just a
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: very standard form. And we know those forms are missing,
- 1:53:30Speaker 3: and some of them are overly redacted, and they say
- 1:53:32Speaker 3: they can't even unredact some of these forms, which is
- 1:53:35Speaker 3: not true.
- 1:53:36Speaker 8: They just need to go to the FBI.
- 1:53:38Speaker 3: The DOJ needs to go to the FBI or the U.S.
- 1:53:43Speaker 3: attorneys and say, give us the unredacted ones because the
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: cop is in the DOJ's possession. They just have a
- 1:53:50Speaker 3: copy that happens to be already redacted. But they can
- 1:53:55Speaker 3: go back to the FBI and to the U.S. attorneys
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: and get the unredacted files. In any case, they're overly
- 1:54:02Speaker 3: redacting the 302 forms that the survivors need to see
- 1:54:07Speaker 3: and the survivors' families.
- 1:54:09Speaker 8: And in some cases, they're withholding them entirely.
- 1:54:12Speaker 3: This gives those survivors unambiguous standings to go to a
- 1:54:17Speaker 3: court and basically the judge can't throw out their case
- 1:54:22Speaker 3: by saying you don't have standing. They would immediately have
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: standing to litigate this in court.
- 1:54:29Speaker 8: It gives the.
- 1:54:32Speaker 3: State attorneys general the standing to do the same thing,
- 1:54:37Speaker 3: and it gives members of Congress standing to go to court.
- 1:54:40Speaker 3: So I can't go to court and test the legal
- 1:54:46Speaker 3: theory that Todd Blanch is using to withhold some of
- 1:54:50Speaker 3: these files.
- 1:54:52Speaker 8: Let me give you an example.
- 1:54:55Speaker 3: By the way, he admits he's got 6 million files,
- 1:54:58Speaker 3: and he only thinks we need to see 3 million
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: of them. And so the question is, what's in those
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: other 3 million files? I don't care so much about
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: how many files I get, but I know there are
- 1:55:09Speaker 3: files that he has that he's not giving us. Let
- 1:55:11Speaker 3: me give you an example. And in the Extinct Files
- 1:55:16Speaker 3: Transparency Act Part 1, we say that they have to
- 1:55:20Speaker 3: release the documents and memos, internal documents and memos, about
- 1:55:26Speaker 3: their decision to prosecute or investigate or not prosecute or
- 1:55:31Speaker 3: not investigate. And that's clearly in our first bill that
- 1:55:36Speaker 3: passed both chambers and was signed.
- 1:55:39Speaker 8: By the president.
- 1:55:40Speaker 2: It's the law.
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: But there's– It's a law, and a new law overrides
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: any old law or old rules.
- 1:55:46Speaker 2: Exactly. Okay.
- 1:55:48Speaker 3: But they're trying to assert that they have deliberative process privilege. Now,
- 1:55:55Speaker 3: that is a term of art that's applied to Freedom
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: of Information Act requests. If you, Brian Thomas, say, I
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: want to know this thing, and you request it from
- 1:56:05Speaker 3: the government, they don't have to show you their homework
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: to their deliberative process. All they have to do is
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: show you the final result. But that's Freedom of Information
- 1:56:15Speaker 3: Act law and rules and precedent. And even if it
- 1:56:20Speaker 3: did apply to something like the Epstein files, the fact
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: that we put explicitly in the first bill that they
- 1:56:28Speaker 3: have to deliver that means they have.
- 1:56:30Speaker 8: To deliver it.
- 1:56:31Speaker 3: You can't hide behind some pre-existing law. And This is
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: just a concept of the way walls work.
- 1:56:40Speaker 2: Congressman Massey, giant burning question on my mind. Why the stonewalling?
- 1:56:46Speaker 2: Why is this going on? What's Blanche's problem? Didn't Donald
- 1:56:49Speaker 2: Trump campaign on releasing the Epstein files? Didn't everybody sign
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: up on the original Epstein File Transparency Act, which is
- 1:56:56Speaker 2: the law of the land? It was overwhelmingly passed. What's
- 1:56:59Speaker 2: going on?
- 1:57:01Speaker 3: You cannot imagine. Well, let me close that thought out
- 1:57:03Speaker 3: and then answer your question.
- 1:57:05Speaker 8: Why the stonewalling?
- 1:57:06Speaker 3: Okay, so our– the new bill, number one, it gives
- 1:57:10Speaker 3: members of Congress standing. Okay, that's the third category. So
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: we could take Todd Blanch to court, and a judge
- 1:57:17Speaker 3: I think in one minute would rule for us. Yes.
- 1:57:20Speaker 3: Because his proposition is so ludicrous, Todd Blanch's proposition. And
- 1:57:26Speaker 3: then we also use the word deliberative process. We just
- 1:57:29Speaker 3: flat out say you can't exert that privilege. Okay, even
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: though we don't need that language because if we can
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: get him in a courtroom– The judge would acknowledge that
- 1:57:38Speaker 3: we don't need that language.
- 1:57:39Speaker 8: Well, we put it in there. It's boots and belt
- 1:57:41Speaker 8: and suspenders. So why the stonewalling? Well, let me talk
- 1:57:45Speaker 8: to you about the degree of stonewalling.
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: If you remember last year about this time, they shut
- 1:57:52Speaker 3: down Congress for about two months to avoid swearing in
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: a new member of Congress, which was going to be
- 1:58:01Speaker 3: and ultimately was the 218th signature I needed. Now, they
- 1:58:07Speaker 3: blamed it on the government shutdown. but I've been in
- 1:58:11Speaker 3: Congress for 14 years, and when the government shuts down,
- 1:58:15Speaker 3: Congress still stays open because we're the only ones that
- 1:58:17Speaker 3: can open it back up. We have to pass the
- 1:58:22Speaker 3: spending bill that opens it back up again. But Mike
- 1:58:25Speaker 3: Johnson kept it shut down. I call it the Epstein shutdown.
- 1:58:30Speaker 3: a year ago to try to give the White House
- 1:58:33Speaker 3: more time to beat up my Republican co-signers to get
- 1:58:37Speaker 3: their names off of the discharge petition. It didn't work,
- 1:58:42Speaker 3: but they ended up shutting down Congress for two months.
- 1:58:45Speaker 3: I predicted about a week ago, a week and a
- 1:58:49Speaker 3: day ago on a Tuesday, we came back to Congress
- 1:58:53Speaker 3: after a five-week recess. I heard a rumor that And
- 1:58:57Speaker 3: it made so much sense to me that I put
- 1:58:59Speaker 3: it out there on the Internet, and I said, Mike Johnson.
- 1:59:05Speaker 8: Is likely to shut.
- 1:59:08Speaker 3: Down Congress until the election to avoid me getting 218
- 1:59:13Speaker 3: signatures on the Epstein files, just like he did last year.
- 1:59:16Speaker 3: He goes on TV, some reporter asked him, and he
- 1:59:20Speaker 3: said that, he said, let me tell you what, Thomas
- 1:59:24Speaker 3: Massey's idea is stupid. And then he said it was
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: ludicrous or something like that, that if I would just
- 1:59:32Speaker 3: come to the meetings, I would know we're going to
- 1:59:34Speaker 3: work every day on the calendar until the election. And
- 1:59:40Speaker 3: two days after he made that statement.
- 1:59:42Speaker 8: He called off two weeks of Congress so that we
- 1:59:46Speaker 8: won't be– in.
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: Other words, there's only two more full days that we
- 1:59:52Speaker 3: will be in session.
- 1:59:53Speaker 8: That's next week.
- 1:59:54Speaker 3: We fly in on a Monday– We work on Tuesday
- 1:59:57Speaker 3: and Wednesday, and we fly out on a Thursday. There
- 2:00:00Speaker 3: were supposed to be two more weeks in addition to that.
- 2:00:02Speaker 3: He cut them off the calendar because he doesn't want
- 2:00:05Speaker 3: me to get to 218 signatures. Why?
- 2:00:11Speaker 8: Why?
- 2:00:12Speaker 3: And this is the thing that should heighten your suspicion.
- 2:00:15Speaker 2: They're already heightened.
- 2:00:18Speaker 8: Mike Johnson.
- 2:00:19Speaker 3: went out and made such a strong statement that we
- 2:00:22Speaker 3: are going to work every day at the counter because
- 2:00:24Speaker 3: he knows it looks bad.
- 2:00:26Speaker 8: If we quit.
- 2:00:27Speaker 3: We've got the majority in the House.
- 2:00:28Speaker 2: And the Senate. What's he afraid of?
- 2:00:32Speaker 3: Why are we not passing country of origin labeling, for instance, right?
- 2:00:36Speaker 3: There's time to do that before the election. Why are
- 2:00:39Speaker 3: we not doing these things? And then why did Mike
- 2:00:42Speaker 3: Johnson just make such an absolute fool of himself by
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: going backwards?
- 2:00:47Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 2:00:47Speaker 8: It's because he got a call.
- 2:00:50Speaker 3: I guarantee you he.
- 2:00:52Speaker 8: Got a call from somebody.
- 2:00:55Speaker 3: Over in the executive branch or this cabal.
- 2:00:57Speaker 8: Of Epstein associates who.
- 2:00:59Speaker 3: Are friends with Donald Trump who said, Massey's done it before.
- 2:01:04Speaker 3: He's going to do it again. Snap the ball and
- 2:01:07Speaker 3: fall on it. Run out the clock. Do whatever you
- 2:01:10Speaker 3: got to do to keep Massey from having time to
- 2:01:13Speaker 3: get 218 signatures. Because Congress has to be in session
- 2:01:18Speaker 3: to collect these signatures.
- 2:01:19Speaker 2: Well, so they're afraid of what the documents are going
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: to reveal. That's the only conclusion I can draw.
- 2:01:25Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 2:01:26Speaker 2: Okay, well, then there it is. You know what? And
- 2:01:28Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Republicans or Democrats. I don't
- 2:01:30Speaker 2: care who's involved. There were women, there were girls, there
- 2:01:33Speaker 2: were young people that were molested by this pervert and
- 2:01:36Speaker 2: everyone who seemed to have hung around with them. You know,
- 2:01:40Speaker 2: this demands justice. And this is why I find it
- 2:01:43Speaker 2: so insane that you need to have Epstein filed Transparency
- 2:01:46Speaker 2: Act 2. Even to give standing, thank you, Blanche, for
- 2:01:48Speaker 2: standing in the way of justice being served. Is his
- 2:01:52Speaker 2: name in the documents, perhaps? I don't know.
- 2:01:55Speaker 8: This is the other thing.
- 2:01:56Speaker 3: I read 14 names on the floor of the House
- 2:01:58Speaker 3: last week of men for which I have information, and
- 2:02:05Speaker 3: I can't disclose my source.
- 2:02:07Speaker 8: I'm using myself as the shields.
- 2:02:10Speaker 3: People say, oh, well, we saw these names in the
- 2:02:13Speaker 3: Epstein files. This is nothing new.
- 2:02:15Speaker 8: We've heard these names.
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: Yeah, their names are in the.
- 2:02:17Speaker 8: Phone book, too, okay?
- 2:02:20Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to convey is these people, I believe,
- 2:02:25Speaker 3: are guilty.
- 2:02:26Speaker 2: I see.
- 2:02:26Speaker 3: And I have information beyond what's in the Epstein files
- 2:02:30Speaker 3: to make this implication.
- 2:02:33Speaker 2: Guilty. Guilt deserves punishment. Criminal justice means equal treatment under
- 2:02:37Speaker 2: the law. If I went out and molested a kid,
- 2:02:38Speaker 2: I would imagine the prosecutor would come down on me,
- 2:02:40Speaker 2: and you know what? I would deserve it. Looking for
- 2:02:43Speaker 2: justice here. Congressman Thomas Massey is trying to deliver on it,
- 2:02:45Speaker 2: and look at the stonewalling that's going on. Congressman Massey,
- 2:02:48Speaker 2: no wonder you're a lightning rod for controversy, controversy that's, well,
- 2:02:51Speaker 2: created by the other side of this argument. You're always
- 2:02:54Speaker 2: welcome on the morning show, Congressman Massey. Hell, you can
- 2:02:57Speaker 2: come on every day if you want, as far as
- 2:02:59Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I'll miss talking to you when you're gone,
- 2:03:01Speaker 2: but hopefully you and I will be able to have
- 2:03:02Speaker 2: more conversations soon.
- 2:03:05Speaker 3: Where do I send my resume? I need, you know,
- 2:03:08Speaker 3: you don't get enough vacation, sir. What does filling in
- 2:03:11Speaker 3: for you pay?
- 2:03:12Speaker 2: Hey, be careful what you ask for. You may find
- 2:03:14Speaker 2: your wish granted easily. Much to the delight of the
- 2:03:17Speaker 2: listening audience on the 55KRC Morning Show. Congressman Massey, God
- 2:03:22Speaker 2: bless you, sir. We'll talk again soon, I hope. Take care.
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: It's 845 right now at 55KRC Talk Station.
- 2:03:26Speaker 3: 55KRC!