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161: Vanderpump Rules Reunion Pt. 2 / The Valley - Babymoon Mahem (S1 E10) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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  Delia here with my Real Tight Homegirl and my daughter in law Beach.
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  Everybody. We are here to talk Vanderbump Rules Reunion Part two, and we're
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  also going to be talking about the Valley, which is wrapping up. It's
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  in the process of wrapping up, and so we're gonna recap both of those
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  in one podcast episode. Yeah, although we'll be splitting them up on YouTube,
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  in advance. Now, Beatrice, you were just telling me we got a
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  comment from somebody, yeah, who said they were afraid of our podcast because
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  we always open by saying that we're politically incorrect, and they thought we were
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  going to be neo Nazis and say a bunch of racist stuff like that.
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  opinions that we are unlikely to censor. Yeah, that not everybody will agree
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  with. But we are good people over here. We are we are wonderful
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  people over here, and we just try to have fun, honey, talking
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  about reality television. We never ever talk politics, no fuck that shit.
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  No, we don't like to talk about it, and so we're never gonna
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  do that. And that's great. Like, we need a space on the
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  Internet where somedy's not screaming about politics. Can I get an thank you so
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  vander Pump rules. You said we had somebody right in with a comment that
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  you wanted to share. Yeah, this is actually one of my friends on
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  my online friend oh okay, and she is a huge Bravo person. She
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  loves this shit, and she said this is her hot take about La La.
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  Okay. She says, La La was a fucking grifter from the beginning
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  and was attempting to sleep with successful and powerful men so she would never have
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  to work. Not only that, but she fucking failed in her sugar baby
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  mission and is now tethered to and in a custody battle with a casting couch
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  creep and decided to be a single mother deliberately. Now her main paycheck,
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  VPR is in serious danger, and she's somehow making that Ariana's problem because Arianna
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  never had to fuck producers to get success and jobs and opportunities because she was
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  well received by the crowd. Laala was also a production puppet all season because
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  she knew like everyone else did, that the show was in danger and thought
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  tearing Ariana down would make for a good storyline. She also wanted me to
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  add that she's a single mom herself, so she's not harping on Lalla for
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  being a single mom. She's just like, why would you deliberately choose to
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  be one? That's a really interesting take, and I can kind of see
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  that. I mean, I think that up until this season, Laala has
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  always had the luxury to have like really authentic reactions to things. But this
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  season, I feel like I can smell the desperation on her, like she
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  knows, like if she doesn't pull something out, if she doesn't make this
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  cast work the way she thinks they need to work, then they're gonna lose
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  their job. And what does she have? She has her Amazon Live stop,
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  I mean, which is like, what is that? I don't know
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  what. Maybe it's popular, I have no idea. I know she has
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  a podcast, but it's just a podcast right where she's constantly getting yes queened
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  of course, like nobody challenges her on anything. Yeah, And what I
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  thought was really interesting in this reunion is that she was going back and forth
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  with Katie about Katie saying like, I will come for your job if you
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  come for mine, And she's bringing her child into it as if she's Janet
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  on the valley, right, and their pregnancy and their children are the most
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  important thing about them, distinguishing them from the shit that they do. Like
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  her hypocrisy. Her hypocrisy throughout both parts of the reunion has been on full
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  display. Oh yeah, and it's really embarrassing to watch because like, I'm
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  not a VPR ho. Okay, Like I haven't seen all of the earlier
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  seasons. I don't know all of the lore except for what you tell me
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  and what I see online. But this season I came into the beginning like,
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  oh, I like Lala, She's very pretty. I like that she's
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  kind of crazy, says what she thinks. I admire that energy sometimes.
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  But then after this reunion, I'm like, girl, you are digging yourself
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  a grave, Like what are you doing. You're ruining your job, You're
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  ruining your reputation, and now what are you gonna do. You're gonna be
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  broke and you're gonna be a single mom, like have fun and nobody likes
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  you. And the gag is like you're blaming Katie for ruining your job or
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  trying to come for your job, but you're doing that yourself because you are
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  so unlikable that nobody's gonna want to listen to your podcast. Yep, No,
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  one's gonna want to buy your send it to Darryl's sweatshirts or your water,
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  and nobody's gonna want to support you. Yeah. And that's not something
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  Katie did, That's something you did. Yep. Yeah, she got on
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  my nerves. Yeah, she really pissed me off, especially with the whole
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  boundaries thing with Ariana. That was like, girl, you're so toxic.
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  Can we can we talk about that? Yes? Okay, So that conversation
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  in which it sounded like Andy was trying to call Laala out for her hypocrisy
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  because in the previous seasons she told everybody like, if you're hanging out with
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  Randall Emmett, then you're no friend to me. But then she wouldn't respect
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  Arianna's boundaries in that regard, and her whole argument was, well, the
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  biggest differences I had a kid with this man. Yeah, that's it.
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  And I'm just wondering how that factors in at all, Like why does that
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  change it? That's what doesn't make any sense to me, because Arianna is
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  straight up telling Lalla like, you don't have to understand it. It's still
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  my boundary though, and you still, as my friend, should be respecting
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  that as a good person, but you're not. You're stomping over it.
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  And Laala's like, well, I just don't understand because it's totally different.
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  I understand that lala situation is a little different in terms of like the custody
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  battle and that stuff can be used in court, blah blah blah. But
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  at the same time, just because your situation is different doesn't mean that you
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  get to blatantly disrespect your friend's boundaries and shit on her for even having boundaries
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  in the first place, Like that was just so frustrating and so to after
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  she respected your boundary, after she supported you in the ways that you articulated
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  that you needed her too, she did it. There is no difference.
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  It doesn't matter that you're married or not. It doesn't matter whether you have
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  a child or not. You had a breakup from this person and you asked
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  everybody to adhere to your rules. Ariana didn't think twice. She's like,
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  no problem, I'll do it. And then you turn around and you don't
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  have the same respect for her. That's the problem. And it's not anything
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  but your kid. No, it doesn't have anything to do with Ariana is
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  still living in the house and so it doesn't make sense to you. It
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  doesn't matter. This is what she's saying she needs from you as a friend,
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  and you can't give it to her exactly. And on the after show
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  I was watching it, Ariana was trying to clarify like her position. She's
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  like, I've never said that people can't be friends with sandival I just said
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  I won't be friends with you if you are friends with him, because I
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  don't want my name or anything I say to get to him and vice versa,
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  Like I'm just not gonna do that. And I thought that that was
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  like a fair point, but all of these girls like Lala and Sheena are
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  turning it around and being like, no, you're saying we can't be friends
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  with him. No, she's just saying, I'm not going to be friends
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  with somebody who's friends with my ex who's a cheating, narcissistic ashole who ruined
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  my life. Right, But that does put pressure on them right to conform
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  to what she wants them to do. I mean when we went through the
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  montage right last week. Yeah, her actually saying that she's not going to
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  be down with and or hang out with anybody who's hanging out with Tom Sanimal,
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  But I still respect that you're gonna have to make a choice at some
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  point, like who are you going to ride for? If it comes down
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  to this, who are you going to ride for? Right? But Lala
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  just wants to be a production plant. She just wants to make TV because
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  she's desperate for her job. She just wants to attack Katie, who is
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  the realist on this entire cast, because Katie isn't saying the things she wants
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  Katie to say so that they can make good television. Lost. I've just
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  lost so much respect for Lalla. I didn't have a lot of money,
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  but I lost it all for her me too. She was so freaking frustrating,
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  and I just, I don't know. I was frustrated with how she
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  Lala's coming off as like she's the realist person here. I'm still honest.
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  They made Truth Teller. I lived my authentic life on all eleven seasons of
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  VPR, and I'm like, girl, No, you didn't, not at
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  all. You hid so much and you lied. We see Katie calling you
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  out for dating a married man, and you're lying about it. Right.
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  You wouldn't let anybody talk about Randal. You wouldn't let anybody challenge your relationship
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  with Randal. You shut that shit down immediately. Yeah, So, no,
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  you're not this big truth teller. No. And even when she's calling
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  Katie out quote unquote for venting to her about Ariana and her frustrations with something
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  about her, like she looked so stupid in this episode, Lala did,
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  because even Andy's like, Okay, Katie's just venting to a friend about what's
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  going on with her other friend. She's not talking shit to Arianna because Ariana's
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  got a lot she's dealing with. Her life's just been turned upside down because
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  of Sandoval. Like, maybe chill out. You look like a bad friend,
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  Laala. You look like a fake, oh ass bitch to everybody,
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  including Katie, Ariana, everyone, right, And later in this episode,
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  she's getting into it with Ariana, which we'll talk about, but like it's
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  the first time she's trying to moderate her vocal tones and it's the first time
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  she's not actually screaming because I think she's coming up against the one power position
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  person in this group. I think Ariana has the power to crash this group
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  personally, and so she's not screaming at her, but it's the only time
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  she's not screaming. She's been screaming this entire time throughout part one and now
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  into part two. I'm just like, oh, I can't, how are
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  we And she's talking over people like I just to you, She's interjecting herself
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  and her opinions into absolutely everything. I know, shut up, You're not
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  that important. I know you're not that important to the conversation, especially when
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  what you're bringing to the conversation is produced. And I'm kind of excited for
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  the last reunion because it's gonna be over and we're gonna be done with this,
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  but also but also because they're gonna show the last like fifteen minutes of
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  the episode, which Arianna hasn't seen, and nobody has seen the last fifteen
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  minutes of the footage, some of the people that lived it, like La
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  La when she was calling Ariana out for having a god complex. I'm like,
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  Oh, that's gonna be messy. And this is why it's alleged now
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  that everybody thinks Ariana and Laala are not friends anymore. It seems like it.
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  On the after show, they're kind of talking about how they just don't
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  really talk to anybody anymore, and everybody's removed vander Pump Rules from their Instagram
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  bio, which is interesting. Now I don't think everybody had vander Pump Rules
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  on their bios, but some did and now none of them do, which
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  I found fascinating. But yeah, that conversation came up when they were talking
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  about Schwartz telling Ariana before they went to Tahoe, like, you're not the
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  queen of the group, don't tell everybody else had to feel and what to
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  say, And then Ariana says something like, well, Schwartz is the only
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  person who seems to have that opinion, so like whatever, and then they
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  pan across the crowd because everybody knows what was said in the season finale even
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  though they haven't watched it, and Arianna hasn't watched anything. So Lala,
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  where's your chest? Now? Say it with your whole chest. If you
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  think Arianna has this big ego, then why aren't you saying it in this
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  moment? Right? Like she really thought she did something this season, La
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  La, Huh, she thought she was doing some great TV, some drama
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  about my girl. You just ruined all your friendships, you ruined your reputation
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  because now the world fucking hates you and thinks you're a hypocrite because you are.
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  And it's just like crazy to see what did you think about Katie and
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  Schwartz and Joe and all of that. So Joe is such an agent of
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  chaos. I think she's not doing it intentionally. I think it's a byproduct
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  of her innate personality, the way she talks over people, the way she
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  turns to Sheena constantly and asks like what does she mean? What does she
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  say? Oh my god, Like she's having all these weird side conversations.
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  She's constantly gesticulating she's just a weird girl. And I think that's what Katie's
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  like referring to when she says crackhead energy and like I can kind of see
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  it. Yeah. My whole feeling about this was, first of all,
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  Katie's a queen totally, and she really never apologized and she broke down why
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  she felt like she felt, and I think that was entirely valid. Now,
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  at the same time, I think Joe has every right to have felt
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  somewhat bullied and to have felt somewhat picked upon. But at the same time,
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  you're fucking a woman's husband, like right after they break up and so
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  if you get some smoke for that, you entirely deserve it. My takeaway
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  with Joe was that she came on this reunion to make herself a victim.
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  Believe her crocodile tears. I don't believe she was really that sad about Katie.
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  Like when you see her on all of her Instagram lives currently like running
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  currently, now, she's popping off, she's talking mad shit, She's emotionally
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  unregulated. I was much more interested in the Tom Schwartz as a fuck boy
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  conversation. We got into that a little bit, but it's wild to me
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  how Tom Schwartz can't take even a smidge of criticism regarding his conduct and how
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  he treats women, how he treats people, and how he's treated Katie and
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  Joe, Like he couldn't hear anything, and even James is like, what
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  are you talking about? You absolutely did this, and Lawa was telling him,
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  you absolutely did this. You're gaslighting in front of all of us.
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  You're gaslighting Joe. Oh yeah, you can't see it. No, he
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  can't see it at all. And there was also a point where Sheena said
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  that he was a shitty husband he's like, no, I wasn't. I
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  wasn't a shitty husband to Katie. And it's like, oh my god,
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  like talk about denial, Like, no, wonder your data some twenty something
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  year old chick who doesn't have a brain that's fully developed because they get Otherwise
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  she'd be able to see how toxic and crazy you are, to like just
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  be so unaware of how shitty you are. But then on the after show
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  he's sitting there with Tom Sandoval being like, yeah, I know I wasn't
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  the best of Katie and I'm sorry for that, and like we're never gonna
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  get back together. It is what it is. I've moved on. It's
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  like, oh, shut it is lip service. He is saying things he
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  thinks the audience wants to hear. When you watch him on the reunion,
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  you can see, Yeah, he likes to needle her, so he likes
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  to nag her. He's just an absolute asshole. Yep. And he takes
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  no responsibility for Joe, oh none at all. And I loved how everyone
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  in the group was calling him out for that, like nobody had anything good
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  to say about how he handled Joe, And I love that Katie even straight
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  up said, like, I have empathy for you, Joe, because I
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  feel bad that you've been strung along by my shitty ex husband who does not
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  give a shit about you at all. All he wants to do is buck
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  right, just like the people and seeking sister White, right right, that's
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  it. So I thought that was cool that Katie at least acknowledged that.
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  Yeah, but at the same time, she wasn't like cowed by all the
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  people who said, you shouldn't be talking to her like that, You shouldn't
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  be treating other people like that. I said that personally, like I felt
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  like when Joe came out for that one event by the pool and all the
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  girls got together and made her feel bad and Sina took her hat, I'm
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  like, where are we in high school? Like, don't treat other people
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  like that. If you have something to say, you should say that.
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  But Katie is owning her shit. She is taking responsibility for the things that
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  she did and trying to explain herself. But the thing is, Joe just
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  came into this reunion to make Katie look bad. She's not really there to
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  have a conversation because frankly, she does not know how to listen to anybody,
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  much less speak with intention or slow the fuck down so everybody can understand
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  her. She just came there to cry her big dumb tears and make Katie
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  feel bad. But guess what, she don't feel bad. No, and
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  she's standing ten toes down, honey, mm hmmm. And that was what
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  was so weird to me, because Joe kind of puts on this air like
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  she's this this small town girl. She's just like a weird, quirky person
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  in La with all these vapid people. But it's like, girl, like,
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  I don't know what you expected Katie to feel when you moved in with
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  Schwartz for a few days, like you say, and you were CouchSurfing in
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  his hat, like shut up. And then you guys get drunk and have
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  been fucking for a whole entire year. And Katie even brings up like we
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  had an agreement when we divorce that he wouldn't be screwing people in the friend
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  group I wouldn't be, and then you go and do it two or three
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  weeks after we separate. So yeah, of course I'm going to be mad.
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  So I totally see what Katie's how Katie comes from. I understand she's
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  a hard person and she can come off very mean. I'm kind of like
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  that too, especially when I'm hurting and I'm mad. I can be a
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  bit of a bitch. Really, so I get, oh, I've never
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  seen that in you at all. No, because I try not to,
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  cause I know it's just trying to elder I'm your mom in law. They're
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  always so sweet, but I hear what you're saying. Yeah, And Katie
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  even said something like, yeah, I don't have to like everybody. Yeah,
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  exactly. I don't have to respect all people. I choose very deliberately
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  who I want in my circle. And Joe, you ain't it, honey,
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  No, honey, no, she wants to be though, very very
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  very much. Talk about a grifter. So let's talk a little bit about
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  Sena. When Sina was talking about not getting the memo that Ariana was going
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  to be on Dancing with the Stars, whereas like Dan, her boyfriend,
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  Ariana's boyfriend got the memo and I guess logan because they're screwing, And who's
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  logan? Logan is? I think Ariana's best friend? Oh okay, like
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  so, but Sina was confounded and confused as to why she didn't get that
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  memo, and then of course she happened to overhear that Ariana also was going
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  to be in Chicago, and Ariana hadn't told her directly, and so she
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  was talking a little bit about that, and she was smart and she seemed
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  to try to say that she didn't really have a problem with it, and
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  she understood. But I feel like she's but hurt about that, oh one
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  thousand, yeah percent, And it's really kind of embarrassing to me and very
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  cringe that we're even still talking about this on the reunion. I understand it
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  was kind of like a plot point throughout the season and stuff, but like,
• 19:21
  if Sheina wanted to look good, all she'd have to say is yeah,
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  I was a little but hr but like I'm cool, I'm over it
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  now. I wish her the best, Like that's so awesome, I'm so
• 19:30
  glad that you were on it. But like she's still like, I just
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  wish I would have known. I wish she would have told me. And
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  then on the after show she's also talking about it Sandoval and everyone's like,
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  yeah, she know she'd get her chance at Dancing with the Stars. I'm
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  like, oh my god, I'm so crazy and the reunion, Sana says,
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  well, I'm very busy this year because I make music with the twenty
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  sevens or whatever their dumb name is. So it's not like I could actually
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  do it because I'm booked and busy and blessed. Uh huh. But maybe
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  next like you're desperate, You're so desperate. And when we get into the
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  conversation about how every single man in the group has hit on Shena at one
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  point or another, because that was brought up as a result of Katie never
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  being told that Tom actually tried to kiss Sheena, like Sheina is just trying
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  to say, well, I can't tell you anything. I'm just I want
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  you to be happy, and I don't want you to think I'm a home
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  wrecker. I didn't want to spoil your relationship with Tom Schwartz. I don't
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  know what Shena was giving in this reunion, but it was weak. It
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  was desperate, and she's not a good friend. She is so anxiously attached
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  to everyone and everything in her life, like she doesn't know how to be
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  solid into friendship, whether that's to Katie, whether that's to Ariana, whether
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  that's in her own relationship. She just wants accolades, She wants to be
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  the first to know, she wants to be invited to everything, but she
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  doesn't know how to show up for people in a solid way. In my
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  opinion, no, I agree one percent. And on the after show,
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  she was straight at being like, yeah, you know, the one thing
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  that really pisses me off, Like, especially in the context with her having
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  a friendship with Sandoval, I guess she had like an after party with him
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  or something after the finale or after the reunion or something, and Ariana found
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  out about it because she she went up to his room or something. Okay,
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  I didn't watch this week only I know. I only watched it right
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  before I came why it's fresh on my mind. But Sina was talking about
• 21:26
  this and she's like, you know, the thing that bothers me all season
• 21:30
  is that Arianna forgets that I have pure intentions. And I'm like, girl,
• 21:33
  on the reunion with all this stuff, with the dancing with the Stars
• 21:37
  and Sandoval and the friendship and everything, I'm like, you're kind of a
• 21:41
  snake, Like I wouldn't trust you, especially if you're trying to act like
• 21:45
  you're my friend and like you care about me, but then you're fucking jealous
• 21:48
  and you're talking to my ex boyfriend after I freaking told you. It made
• 21:52
  me uncomfortable, Like, I don't know. I think she and a shady
• 21:56
  I don't trust her, and I think that's how narcissists act. This is
• 21:59
  something narcises do when you call them on their shit. They say something like,
• 22:03
  well, but you know my heart, yeah, you know who it
• 22:04
  is that I am. I'm like, actually, I know your actions and
• 22:07
  I see what you're doing and it doesn't reconcile with who you say that you
• 22:11
  are. And that's what I think she is doing in all of these situations.
• 22:17
  Totally makes sense because that's what Sandoval does too. Yep. And I
• 22:19
  can't wait to see him cry on the next reunion, him with his fake
• 22:23
  tears, trying to apologize to Arianna, fucking vising and tears. She doesn't
• 22:30
  want any of it. So obviously that preview when he's talking to Ariana,
• 22:33
  this is right after they watched the final six minutes, and she sees everything
• 22:37
  that Tom says and she's gonna see what Lala said and also how Sheena in
• 22:41
  that moment also said something like no, I totally agree with you, Laala.
• 22:45
  She does have a god complex, so she's gonna see all of that
• 22:48
  and I cannot wait. Oh and then we also have to talk about James
• 22:52
  and Ali. Yes, yes, First of all, Ali looked gorgeous.
• 22:56
  You know who she looks like? Well, I mean you'd have to be
• 22:57
  an old head like me to remember the movie Love Story with Ali McGraw.
• 23:03
  Ali McGraw had like this long, dark brown hair, and she has kind
• 23:08
  of a similar bone structure to Ali McGrath. But she's stunning in those beautiful
• 23:14
  emerald green dress. Word classickly beautiful. Yes, anyways, it's my thought
• 23:19
  about Ali. But go on, I really like Allie. I think she's
• 23:22
  really great. I think she's been great all season. I like how they
• 23:26
  were kind of talking about James's sobriety, so I guess he's been sober for
• 23:30
  a year. Andy's like, well, you said you didn't want to be
• 23:33
  sober for the relationship or you didn't want to, you know, become sober
• 23:37
  for that, but it seems like you are because they're talking about how Ali
• 23:40
  left, she strayed up bluff for a couple nights with two or four.
• 23:44
  I forget I don't right, she loves she packed up the cats and everything.
• 23:47
  She says she doesn't like James drinking, so he's sober. But I
• 23:52
  thought that was kind of interesting and I was just looking at her body language.
• 23:56
  And of course I have said all season long that I I'm very dubious
• 24:00
  about James because of the multiple allegations of domestic violence. Rachel is making those
• 24:07
  allegations, although they're very veiled, but Kristen has come right out and said
• 24:10
  he fucking hit me for sure. Yeah, And so like, I'm always
• 24:12
  side eyeing James, and I think he did those things when he was drinking.
• 24:17
  So I'm wondering if anything like that happened with Ali, like he was
• 24:21
  drinking, maybe he was exhibiting chaotic behavior or like did he actually do something.
• 24:26
  I certainly hope not, because she does seem to have a really good
• 24:30
  head on her shoulders. Yeah, I can't imagine that she would let some
• 24:33
  none lead, but I mean take some sort of abuse like that and then
• 24:37
  not leave, right, But I'm just not sure. I'm always where when
• 24:40
  it comes to James. I'm just always concerned, always skeptical. Yeah,
• 24:45
  And I mean that's fair, and I wonder honestly, for me, my
• 24:48
  vibe vibe check is that Ali probably left because he was saying some really effed
• 24:53
  up shit when he was drunk one night, and she's like, you know
• 24:56
  what, I'm done, You're an asshole every time you drink. Peace out,
• 25:00
  get your shit together, and then maybe I'll come back. And then
• 25:03
  he decided, Okay, I'll get my shit together because you're like the best
• 25:07
  thing that's happened to me. So I think it's really dangerous for somebody who
• 25:10
  has an addiction and or is an alcoholic to give up their advice for someone
• 25:15
  else totally or to stay in a relationship like you have to kind of do
• 25:21
  what Lala did, although actually Laala gave up booze for Randall. Yeah,
• 25:26
  Randall told her like, if you don't stop drinking, like we're done,
• 25:29
  because she was so chaotic. But if you're giving up booze or your vice
• 25:33
  for somebody else, then you really run the risk, Like if there's a
• 25:37
  problem in the relationship or if you like hit a part of the relationships,
• 25:41
  it's very difficult if you have a disagreement, like are you just gonna go
• 25:45
  right back to it and roll up your life like ooh, sketchy. I
• 25:49
  know, I worry about it. Scary, and I mean, at least
• 25:52
  James took a little bit of accountability for his behavior, Like he says something
• 25:56
  like, you know, I know that I'm super disrespect and crazy and I
• 26:00
  say some really messed up things when I'm drinking, So I just know it's
• 26:03
  better for me to stop. But I'm like, okay, but you're still
• 26:06
  a DJ, though, and you DJ at all these clubs where everybody's getting
• 26:10
  drunk or high on MDMA or whatever. He's California sober, so he does
• 26:14
  do a lot of weed. Weed, sure, But I mean there's two
• 26:18
  different things right there in my opinion, So I don't know. I worry
• 26:22
  about them. But I feel like Ali's really good for him, and I
• 26:26
  hope that he can continue to be a good man for her because she deserves
• 26:29
  that. I am dubious. Yeah, I don't blame you, right,
• 26:33
  but I don't blame it. Is this when they kind of also got into
• 26:36
  the conversation about Ariana and Tom and the pets, because James also piped in
• 26:41
  with that, Yeah, that was like right at the end, because I
• 26:45
  think Andy brings it up. He's like, what is the custody with your
• 26:48
  guys's animals, and Ariana is like, well, I've had kitty for like
• 26:52
  fifteen years, so she's mine. I'm not giving her to Sandbal And I
• 26:56
  purchased Maya and that's all in my name, so she's also mine. And
• 27:00
  Sandoval rolls his eyes. He doesn't say anything, he just rolls his eyes,
• 27:04
  and then James is just like, oh, fuck off, need a
• 27:07
  dick, Like he's like super mad at him immediately, right, which I
• 27:11
  just loved, and it was like right at the very end of this boring
• 27:14
  reunion, but James is calling him out because Sandoval understood the situation kind of
• 27:21
  with Rachel and Graham and all of this stuff, like it was on the
• 27:23
  side of Rachel taking her right because when Rachel and James broke up, Rachel
• 27:30
  decided to take Graham, even though James had such a heartfelt, deep and
• 27:33
  meaningful bond with that dog, she took him anyway, ended up giving him
• 27:37
  to the pound or whatever. And Sandoval stood with Rachel in that situation.
• 27:41
  But now that the situation is being applied to him, he has a problem
• 27:45
  with Arianna just taking Maya because that's Ariana's dog, so like, shut the
• 27:49
  fuck up, Sandoval, once again, you're being a hypocrite. But then
• 27:53
  Sandoval gets all defensive and true Sandoval fashion, yeah, and brings up that
• 27:59
  he has heard some things about James and hippie I think a Graham and Graham.
• 28:06
  Yeah. I think he said something he heard about all things that James
• 28:10
  was doing with the dog or whatever, or like he had heard some shit
• 28:12
  from Rachel that he hasn't said. But it's like you're saying shit, You're
• 28:18
  gonna say stuff, right, Oh, I was, I was interpreting that
• 28:22
  as him saying I've heard like you're cheating or I heard like you're doing other
• 28:26
  things. But I think, actually, you're right, he's probably talking about
• 28:30
  the shit that Rachel talked when she was with Tom Sandoval. Because Rachel did
• 28:33
  say on her podcast, which I somebody addressed. I think it was andy
• 28:37
  that James was not great with Graham when Graham was a puppy, and that
• 28:42
  the reason Graham has all of these behavioral issues is because of how James treated
• 28:47
  him, Yes, which is disturbing because I mean, if you're also putting
• 28:51
  your hands on people and you're violent when you're drunk, like I mean,
• 28:56
  I can see a world where that could happen. I don't want that to
• 28:59
  be true, but Tom is probably insinuating that. Yeah, And I think
• 29:03
  that's honestly probably bullshit on Rachel's part and Tom's part, because I mean,
• 29:08
  Lisa vander Pump pipes in. It's like the only time she's talked in all
• 29:11
  of these reunions. She's like just a prop there, but she pipes in
• 29:15
  and she's like, no, when I got Graham back, like the way
• 29:18
  that James reacted and they show the clip of him crying like he loves that
• 29:22
  dog. Like, so I think it's all just a bunch of like talking
• 29:26
  crap, like Rachel's trying to take the heat off of her, right,
• 29:30
  which I get, but also, girl, you made your bed, you
• 29:33
  did this. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. And
• 29:36
  same thing with Sandoval trying to push it off and act like James is like
• 29:38
  this piece of shit, which he might be, okay, like there's a
• 29:41
  lot of allegations against him. He might be a piece of shit, but
• 29:44
  it's like it's all just deflection, right, and that's what's so annoying,
• 29:48
  right, and that's why James calls him out and says, eat a dick,
• 29:49
  Tom, because come on, eat this all the time, which,
• 29:53
  like, however you feel about James, I just love when he goes for
• 29:56
  Tom. I just love when he goes in. It is a thing of
• 30:00
  beauty. It's so great. I just admire that it's the Sagittarius in him,
• 30:04
  is it? Yeah? So is there anything else like that was interesting?
• 30:11
  Yeah? It was kind of boring, Yeah, kind of. And
• 30:12
  we're heading into the big conflict in part three and I can't wait to get
• 30:17
  to it me too. I want to see some tears. Yeah, I
• 30:18
  want to see some screaming, not from Lalla though, like some actual fighting
• 30:22
  or something, getting into the drama of it all and having like a real
• 30:26
  discussion around it. All right, let's now get into the valley. And
• 30:32
  if you're watching on YouTube, but it is a different video, we usually
• 30:34
  release it within an hour, so it's coming, Henny, don't worry about
• 30:37
  it. And you're gonna want to watch though, because that was I thought
• 30:40
  that that was a lit All right, let's get into it. All right,
• 30:45
  let's dive right into the valley. Yeah, before we do, there
• 30:48
  are some things that we have to talk about on the internet, because apparently
• 30:53
  Kristen got into it with Janet on Instagram, and then Janet got in to
• 31:00
  it with Zach on x slash Twitter, and it all revolves around something that
• 31:06
  Janet is claiming Zach said to her that is really vile, and I think
• 31:11
  it is along the lines of something like well, I hope your baby doesn't
• 31:14
  go to term and I hope you die, or something like that, like
• 31:17
  really go fucking terrible and vile. This is something that Janet is saying that
• 31:22
  Zach said, and is also claiming that Kristen knows about this and that Kristen
• 31:30
  is somehow responsible for not checking Zach. Without me breaking it down, let
• 31:34
  me just read what was said between Kristin and Janet first. So Kristin is
• 31:38
  responding to somebody's Instagram, not Janet's that we're breaking down a podcast interview that
• 31:44
  Janet had been on, and Kristin says, I had a fucking pregnancy loss.
• 31:48
  I would never in a million years say something like that. Wait for
• 31:52
  me to post the text where I asked Janet about her pregnancy, including when
• 31:57
  she texted me the baby's first heartbeat and oh yeah, I was at her
• 32:01
  gender reveal. This is revolting so Kristen is saying that Janet's claims that she's
• 32:07
  backing up Zach, who allegedly said these things. It is really terrible of
• 32:10
  Kristen and Christen's coming back was I was there for you, I was supporting
• 32:15
  you, we were texting. Wow. To this, Janet responds and says,
• 32:20
  Kristin Dowdy, it absolutely is revolting that your bff Zach said out loud
• 32:24
  that he was hoping I would miscarry and commit suicide this summer. All of
• 32:30
  our friends and castmates were aware of what he said and reached out expressing how
• 32:34
  disgusted they were by Zach's death. Wish upon my unborn child, except for
• 32:38
  you, glad to hear now that you find his comments as revolting as everyone
• 32:44
  else does. So I have to take your temperature here. Do we think
• 32:50
  Zach, who I think probably has a pinchant for being shady, is so
• 32:55
  gross that he would say something like that to Janet? No, I don't
• 32:59
  think I think Janet is not trustworthy. I think she's chronically online and in
• 33:04
  the comments section, she's very hyper aware of like what everyone's saying about her,
• 33:08
  because everyone fucking hates her on the Valley. She's a total be at
• 33:14
  ct H. That's how you spell that, b ict h. Yeah,
• 33:17
  that's the you know that clip. No, that's a famous clip. No
• 33:22
  being a boomer, You are totally a boomer the famous clip at ct H
• 33:28
  And in that order, I've never heard. No, I've never I'll show
• 33:30
  it to you later, boomer. I was just wanting to correct you.
• 33:35
  I don't want you to look dumb online on anybody. My bag girl anyway.
• 33:39
  Yeah, I think Janet's a total b ict and I don't believe her.
• 33:44
  I don't believe that he would say such vile, awful things, just
• 33:47
  like how earlier in the season she's the one calling Michelle racist and homophobic and
• 33:52
  all of this shit and then denying it completely because she wants to be on
• 33:55
  Michelle's good side. And one thing I'm noticing is that she says all of
• 34:00
  our friends and castmates were aware of what he said, not that they heard
• 34:06
  him say it, but that they were made aware of it, and it
• 34:08
  was probably by Janet. Huh. So maybe he said some shady shit to
• 34:13
  her and she's like spinning it this way, but I personally don't I agree.
• 34:19
  I don't believe Zach actually said that, Yeah, no, And I
• 34:22
  mean, and if he didn't say that, to say that he did is
• 34:25
  so messed up is really gross. Well, and if he did actually say
• 34:30
  that and he's lying or he denies it or whatever, and he's like,
• 34:32
  no, one never said that, and we get receipts later on, then
• 34:36
  Screwzac. He's a piece of shit. So I don't know, I'll hearsay
• 34:39
  at this point, then we have on X and Twitter where somebody made a
• 34:44
  post about those gay guys and the one in particular, Simon who was wearing
• 34:47
  the pink rocks, and the person on X refer to them as her minions
• 34:52
  because they are, and Zach comes in and says, yes, they're her
• 34:57
  minions, and Janet responds to Zach. So she's in the comment section,
• 35:04
  so Zach certainly didn't add her, and I don't actually see the first comment,
• 35:08
  so I'm not sure if the poster added her, but anyway, Janet
• 35:10
  found it and she comes in and she's like, my minions. The only
• 35:15
  thing I asked to be when you sincerely apologized for your inexcusable actions was distance
• 35:22
  and to not continue to come for me while I work on attempting to forgive
• 35:27
  you. I knew your apology was fake and you meant every disgusting word you
• 35:31
  said, wow, to which he did not respond. But this is what
• 35:37
  she's saying. And I think also on the Valley in an interstitial, she
• 35:42
  was talking about how she was trying to rebuild with Zach and get their friendship
• 35:46
  back on track, and how like after all of this, after the phone
• 35:50
  call where he's getting mad because he's not going to Big Bear, she's like,
• 35:53
  yeah, after this, I don't know if we can do that.
• 35:57
  And that's what she's referring to. She's trying to build a friendship back with
• 36:00
  Zach because she's alleging he said these vile things. Now, if Zach said
• 36:02
  that, that is so shitty and oh, totally yeah. But I don't
• 36:07
  believe he did. And that is just a testimony of how much I do
• 36:10
  not like Janet and I don't believe a thing that she's giving and serving in
• 36:14
  the season. Nope. I think she's super manipulative and she's married to a
• 36:17
  lawyer now, so it's like, you know how to play the game and
• 36:22
  your total mean girl energy. Like even in this episode where she's like totally
• 36:27
  using her pregnancy as an excuse to be just awful. It's like you pretend
• 36:30
  she's so afraid, okay, afraid that they're in big bear, shut up,
• 36:35
  calm down. It was obviously a troll, like it's so cringe.
• 36:38
  And how old is she, like somedd thirty something? Yeah, I'm mid
• 36:42
  thirties, late thirties. Girl, act your age. She's so immature and
• 36:46
  so dumb. Well. Also, speaking of the Internet and things people are
• 36:52
  saying, you were talking about, and I also noticed that on Reddit,
• 36:55
  in the Valley subreddit, they're talking about Danny, particularly from this episode,
• 37:01
  and a lot of people had smoke for Danny and they did not like the
• 37:05
  things that he said. Yeah, I don't understand. I mean, okay,
• 37:08
  look in my opinion, mm hmm. I feel like men are allowed
• 37:13
  to have feelings, yes, And I feel like husbands are allowed to have
• 37:15
  feelings because they take on a lot of burden. I mean, not just
• 37:20
  husbands, like spouses in general. When you have big life changes, when
• 37:23
  you have three little kids, like, that's a lot. It's a lot
• 37:25
  to handle on both parties, Like not saying that Nea is not doing anything
• 37:30
  like but he's just crying to his bros who he thinks are his bros when
• 37:34
  they don't actually give a crap. But like he's just venting and talking about
• 37:37
  how he's just like, I'm under a lot of freaking pressure and stress,
• 37:40
  and everybody on Redd's like he's terrible, he's misogynistic. Well, I don't
• 37:45
  know that's because that's not all he did, though. He wasn't just crying
• 37:49
  and expressing his feelings about his burden in his life. He also said that
• 37:53
  he made a blanket statement that wives don't appreciate their husbands and what they do,
• 37:59
  and jes See also co signed it and said, yeah, they never
• 38:01
  do. They don't see what we do for them. They dismiss it entirely.
• 38:05
  And Danny said that, and I'm like, that's wild, and I
• 38:12
  mean, it's one thing to say my wife dismisses me, my wife doesn't
• 38:15
  understand what I'm going through, But like to then say this is how all
• 38:20
  moms are, this is how all wives are, is misogynistic on its face
• 38:23
  and objectively. Now he seems drunk in this scene, yes, and everybody's
• 38:27
  been drinking all day. And I have grace for Danny, and I am
• 38:30
  sure even though he didn't give birth to these children out of his vagina,
• 38:36
  that he's under a lot of stress and he's doing a whole hell of a
• 38:39
  lot. I mean, but like, as he's putting babies on boobs,
• 38:44
  there's a woman there with boobs taking babies. It's not like you have an
• 38:47
  extra load or an extra responsibility that Nia also doesn't have. But again,
• 38:52
  it's a drunken expression to the bros. And I'm like, I would let
• 38:58
  that go. I think he's in night. That's my thought on right Like,
• 39:01
  I don't think he's like full blown crazy, and like I think there's
• 39:05
  a lot of discourse online right now, especially like in the trad wife trad
• 39:08
  husband circles. I don't know if Danny's a part of that, And I'm
• 39:13
  not judging it or anything. Like whatever you do, you you believe whatever
• 39:16
  you want to believe. But that's kind of the discourse that goes on is
• 39:20
  like women need to be appreciative of their husbands because they work so hard and
• 39:23
  they provide, and like women should be so thankful, and so I just
• 39:28
  that's what it kind of felt like a little And I can understand why people
• 39:30
  think he's being shitty, but at the same time, I'm like, dude,
• 39:34
  he's drunk, he's tired. He's also a dad who's dealing with all
• 39:37
  this too, and he's working and he's providing for the family. Like,
• 39:39
  got him some fucking slack. Yeah, And I think the audience is really
• 39:44
  quick to tear somebody down who up until this point has shown us that he's
• 39:47
  a great husband, a great dad, Like he's built a lot of social
• 39:52
  credit with us, right and with me in particular. I really like Danny
• 39:54
  and I really like Nia, And I don't think a woman of quality like
• 39:58
  Nia Honey would be with a guy who is a misogey, a stick brick
• 40:00
  at all. I think she'd walk. Yeah. So I mean, we
• 40:02
  don't have to come for Danny so hard in my opinion. Yeah. And
• 40:07
  I mean, but that's reddit for you Annie totally. And there's a difference
• 40:10
  between Danny's saying something like that and Jesse saying something like that. Jesse has
• 40:15
  proven himself to be totally an asshole and he does not respect women, especially
• 40:20
  Michelle. So there, that's kind of like where I'm at. I think
• 40:23
  Danny's just frustrated and he's tired, and he's doing a lot, and yeah,
• 40:28
  he said something dumb, but like that's literally the only dumb thing he
• 40:30
  said for ten episodes, I know, So it's like, let's just chill.
• 40:35
  Yeah, totally agree on your take with that. But it does kind
• 40:37
  of seem like Nia and Danny are gonna have a little fight next episode.
• 40:43
  Maybe, well, because what I noticed with Nia is she's constantly trying to
• 40:46
  censor him, Like when there are various and and sundry arguments happening in the
• 40:51
  group, like at various dinners and such, Danny wants to say something and
• 40:54
  she's always covering his mouth. She's always telling him to be quiet. So
• 40:58
  it looks like she's going to try and do that again next week and he's
• 41:01
  gonna be sick of that shit. And I do think it's a fair critique,
• 41:06
  actually, yeah, because Nia seems to run out of the room as
• 41:09
  soon as there's drama. It's always like, oh, my babies, there,
• 41:12
  my babysitter, or I've got to pump my milk or this or that,
• 41:15
  and like she doesn't actually stay in the mix of it and contribute on
• 41:20
  that level. And I'm sorry, but that's what you signed up for.
• 41:22
  It. It's a reality TV show, and it's toxic AF and you signed
• 41:27
  up for this. And so if your husband wants to participate in conversations and
• 41:30
  give his viewpoint, which by the way, I think we need sure because
• 41:34
  it's Danny and Nia, yeah, and they should contribute to the conversation.
• 41:37
  But she just wants to run from the room. That's not how you do
• 41:39
  reality TV. Nia. I love you. I think you're all grace,
• 41:43
  all beauty, all perfection. But if you're gonna be on this show,
• 41:45
  you're just gonna have to get in there and you're gonna have to mix with
• 41:49
  the other people, oh for sure. And like I had said, I
• 41:52
  think it was like last episode, Danny and Nia are too good for this
• 41:54
  show and too good for reality TV. And I think it's what we're seeing
• 41:59
  now is they're getting influenced by the toxicity of this group. Like Nia,
• 42:04
  I know, is dealing with postpartum and so she's got a lot of like
• 42:07
  emotions and stuff, and that's totally valid and totally fine. Danny, I
• 42:10
  think, is getting influenced by the guys a little bit, because right before
• 42:15
  that scene in the preview where he's like, let me talk, let me
• 42:17
  say what I want to say, the guys are straight up telling him,
• 42:21
  Yeah, you're getting emasculated by your wife. She wears the pants, grows
• 42:24
  some balls and be a man, And to say that to a man can
• 42:29
  really bring up a lot of feelings and a lot of like, oh crap,
• 42:32
  I do have to assert my masculinity. And so I just kind of
• 42:36
  wonder with Danny being kind of a sensitive person. He was getting upset at
• 42:39
  Jesse totally teasing him and wrestling with him last episode. Like, I think
• 42:45
  he's probably a little bit emotionally charged, and that's why he gets frustrated with
• 42:49
  Nia right and on the heels of being told that you're emmasculated or that you're
• 42:53
  not like a full man, that you don't wear the pants in your marriage,
• 42:57
  like she goes and she checks you right in front of every like bad
• 43:00
  diming nea exactly. I'm very interested to see how that goes down and how
• 43:05
  Danny responds to that. Me too. I hope he's a king about it.
• 43:07
  Yeah, I hope he's not gonna say some more misogonistics stuff. We
• 43:10
  shall see, we shall see. Before we get into the episode, I
• 43:15
  do have a takeaway, Like it's just after I watched it, you know,
• 43:17
  I sit there, and I think to myself, Delia, what'd you
• 43:21
  think about that? Any thoughts? Usually there are none, but this time,
• 43:25
  my takeaway is really about Britney vomiting all the time. It's kind of
• 43:30
  strange to me. And listen, I'm no stranger to an alcoholic beverage.
• 43:35
  Honey, Okay, I was what's happened you last night? Had a time?
• 43:38
  Totally? Yeah. So I'm not here to judge anybody's alcohol consumption or
• 43:43
  anything, but the fact that she is drinking and vomiting a lot, because
• 43:49
  remember we had nausea. I don't know vomiting, but I think maybe at
• 43:53
  the sake party at Janet's, we had vomiting into a bag. After the
• 43:58
  girl's trip to Malibu, we've got vomiting again on this trip to Big Bear.
• 44:02
  We've seen her have hangovers on other occasions where she's really not having a
• 44:07
  good time. And I do seem to remember when she was on vander Pump
• 44:10
  Rules that she was diagnosed with some kind of an ulcer and the doctor told
• 44:15
  her no more alcohol, like for a period of time at least until it
• 44:19
  heals, and ulcers can heal. Yeah, Like the doctor's like, yeah,
• 44:22
  you got to stop drinking. But even on VPR she did not.
• 44:25
  She continued to take her tequila shots and have a burning stomach. And so
• 44:31
  Jack's talking about how he's been dealing with this for eight years. I mean,
• 44:36
  he acted like a brute and a Neanderthal and a barbarian. And I'm
• 44:39
  not going to defend him, but I'm just wondering, like, why are
• 44:43
  we vomiting so much? It's not just because you have a sensitive tummy,
• 44:46
  honey, There's something here, like where there's smoke, there's fire. And
• 44:52
  if you do still have an ulcer after all these years, that's a problem.
• 44:55
  Canthos become cancerous? Oh yeah, well, and they can become recurrent
• 45:00
  and they can get worse. And I mean, if she already had an
• 45:02
  ulcer like in her twenties, I'm like, what's your liver? Like,
• 45:05
  what's your gallbladder? Like, like, why are you throwing up so farrowing
• 45:08
  up so much? That's scary to me. Well, and like when I
• 45:12
  was watching this episode, my first thought for some reason was like, is
• 45:15
  she on ozempic? She's growing up a lot because she's on ozempic. Because
• 45:19
  she's claiming in this episode she didn't drink at all. But then when she
• 45:22
  starts yelling at Jack's, I heard her say I only had two drinks today,
• 45:27
  and I'm like, oh, girl, no, you're an alcoholic.
• 45:30
  I think she's totally drinking a lot, but I think Jacks is driving her
• 45:35
  to drink. I think she's unhappy with her life and that's not his fault,
• 45:37
  Like she's an adult and should be responsible for her behavior, Like,
• 45:42
  don't become an alcoholic when you have a kid. Take care of your marriage,
• 45:45
  like either stay in and rehabilitated or get out and then go live your
• 45:49
  life, but don't be an alcoholic. But I do think this has been
• 45:52
  going on for a really long time, and if her body is rejecting alcohol
• 45:55
  on this level, like I would, I personally would be freaked out.
• 46:00
  Yeah that's bad, but you can't even enjoy your life if this is what's
• 46:02
  happening when you drink. Foe. I mean it kind of does lend itself
• 46:07
  to Jack's arguments where he's like, I have been dealing with this for so
• 46:10
  long, and so when I see her throwing up again, yeah, I
• 46:14
  don't have a lot of sympathy for her because she does this deliberately to herself
• 46:19
  and you know, it's affecting me, it's affecting my kid, it's affecting
• 46:22
  our life. He doesn't express that the right way. No, he abuses
• 46:27
  her and shames her and tries to humiliate her. Yeah, but at the
• 46:30
  same time, the core of his complaint is valid. Yeah, I would
• 46:36
  assume so, but like the way he goes about it is really terrible.
• 46:40
  And at the same time, when he's yelling at her in this episode about
• 46:44
  the drinking, he's talking about how he had he drank two bottles of tequila.
• 46:47
  He's like, I'm fine, though, So why can't you hold your
• 46:51
  liquor like me? And it's like, geez, you guys are both terrible.
• 46:54
  You're also in alcoholic if you're drinking two bottles of fucking can't even conceive
• 46:59
  of that's where wild that would happen. And you're doing cocal Yeah, and
• 47:04
  it's really not fair. Like just because her body can't handle it and yours
• 47:07
  can doesn't mean you don't have a drinking problem and she does. It just
• 47:10
  means that her body processes it differently. So why aren't you not drinking?
• 47:15
  Why aren't you making lifestyle changes to promote health and all that? In your
• 47:20
  relationship and in your life. But you won't do that right, so you
• 47:22
  won't curtail your behavior even a little, but you will dogpile her for drinking.
• 47:28
  Well, And I just wonder if she's drinking as much as he's saying
• 47:31
  she is, Like he's acting like she's a drunk, like totally drinking a
• 47:37
  ton to the point of vomiting. But it kind of sounds like she'll just
• 47:42
  have like a sip, or she'll have one drink or two, but then
• 47:45
  immediately gets sick, and like that happens to people Like I don't drink anymore
• 47:49
  because every time I do, I get sick. And I can have like
• 47:52
  wine every now and then, but if I drink like liquor, I'm totally
• 47:55
  nauseous. I've got the spins after one drink and it sucks. But it's
• 48:00
  not like I'm an alcoholic. It's not like some people are just sensitive to
• 48:02
  it. Some people push through that and they don't give a buck. They're
• 48:06
  like, I'm just still gonna do That's Brittany. That's what it seems like
• 48:07
  with Brittany. I don't think she drinks just a little bit. I actually
• 48:10
  do think she probably drinks a lot, and we've seen her over the years
• 48:14
  drinking a lot of tequila and loving to party, and I just I think
• 48:16
  that's probably who she is and what she does. But he probably drinks way
• 48:22
  more than she does. It sounds like it if he's drinking, I mean
• 48:23
  two bottles of the key he can hold. Well, they're they're at the
• 48:27
  Big Bear, they're partying. Hopefully he's not doing that every day. It's
• 48:30
  just the audacity of Jax to come for her like that, and just and
• 48:34
  also the other women screaming at them to tell him the truth. I'm just
• 48:37
  like, I mean, do that in front of my husband scream at me
• 48:40
  like that. I was shock that none of the other husbands said anything to
• 48:44
  Jacks for yelling at those girls. I know, talk about nobody being a
• 48:47
  real man, Like, what are you doing? Your husband would never never,
• 48:52
  Oh my god, please try it. No, absolutely, give him
• 48:53
  a reason. Oh my god, he's looking for a reason in his life
• 48:58
  for you to give him the one reason. He totally does. Your daughter's
• 49:01
  the same way, and she always is like, that's why God doesn't put
• 49:05
  nothing in my way, because all destroy people. Right, That's totally what
• 49:08
  it is. But yeah, I couldn't believe how Jack. Like last episode,
• 49:14
  Jacks is yelling at Brittany on the beach in front of everybody, and
• 49:16
  I'm like, that's embarrassing and cringe. And then you're having a full fledged
• 49:21
  screaming fight in front of everybody in this airbnb and I'm like, yeah,
• 49:27
  really mortifying. But I mean there's a difference between fighting in front of other
• 49:31
  couples and being super toxic and then also yelling at those dudes wives, like
• 49:37
  directing at somebody else besides Brittany, Like the moment you're starting to yell at
• 49:40
  these other women and being a dick about it, like you've just crossed the
• 49:45
  line, and I'm just like shocked, Like Jason, where are you?
• 49:47
  Danny? I think Danny actually went to bed. Johnny may have gone to
• 49:51
  sleep, I'm not sure. But like Jesse, with all your bravado,
• 49:53
  where are you? Oh? I forget you like to yell at women too,
• 49:57
  so you don't care. But I mean, it was interesting how later
• 50:00
  in the episode, Jesse starts to call out Jack's for his behavior and also
• 50:06
  how he might want to handle his wife and not do it in a group
• 50:07
  setting like he did. Speak up not in the moment. Yeah, but
• 50:12
  he did say something ultimately afterwards which was really interesting. I think it was
• 50:15
  like on the boat or something. He's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't
• 50:17
  have done that in front of everybody in Jackson is like, yeah, I
• 50:21
  should have. It's like, when am I supposed to bring it up?
• 50:23
  Because it happens all the time, and I'm very frustrated about it, and
• 50:27
  I've been dealing with it for so long, and I'm like, Okay,
• 50:30
  I get it. I understand that you're frustrated, but like, geez,
• 50:32
  this is the mother of your child. Maybe have a little bit more respect.
• 50:37
  Go get some couple's therapy, like Janet suggests to them, Like,
• 50:40
  which is the only reasonable thing that we've heard from Janet this entire time?
• 50:44
  Yep, yep. And jaxon his talking head is like, well, I've
• 50:47
  done therapy in the past, but it hasn't worked for me. And I'm
• 50:50
  like, oh, you're one of those yep, got it, just like
• 50:52
  la la. I can't with that. Yeah, that was really really bad.
• 50:57
  But then we see like the very next day, him and are talking
• 51:00
  and he's apologizing, kind like we've seen him apologize to her a lot for
• 51:05
  the way that he acts. But then he goes right back and comes right
• 51:07
  back in on his bullshit and starts doing it again, which is why she
• 51:10
  rolls her eyes, and she does not believe anything that he says, and
• 51:15
  in her interestitial on the couch with her big old bullsom the big old ball
• 51:19
  were flowing. Yeah, she's talking about like, I just can't do this
• 51:22
  anymore. It's really not working for me. And he doesn't listen to me,
• 51:27
  and he treats me like this all the time, and so she's at
• 51:31
  her wits end. I'm glad she's finally aware of that, but I'm like,
• 51:36
  why did it take you so long? But I shouldn't blame her for
• 51:38
  that. I guess like you were love but whatever. I can't understand.
• 51:44
  This kind of weird to me. But like when Jack's apologizes the next day,
• 51:49
  I was so grossed out because he's just like, yeah, I'm sorry,
• 51:52
  sorry, are we good now? And then he gets up and leaves
• 51:53
  like because she's like, yeah, it's okay, and she says in her
• 51:57
  talking head, this is how they always do it. They have a fire.
• 52:00
  He'll say sorry, but he doesn't mean it, and then he acts
• 52:02
  like everything's totally fine. Everything. I'm like, that is so bad.
• 52:07
  Yeah. See, if doctor Orna was here, a lot to say.
• 52:12
  And by the way, we're gonna be covering doctor Orny. Oh doctor Orna
• 52:15
  on couples Therapy on Patreon starting in June, if you guys want to check
• 52:20
  that out. But yeah, all of these marriages, all of these marriages
• 52:22
  have some problems. Oh yeah, what did you think about the guys on
• 52:27
  the boat talking about all of their marital issues and like Jesse calling out Jack's
• 52:30
  and Jack's being like, yeah, we're never gonna get divorced. I thought
• 52:35
  that was very interesting. I don't really understand Jesse, like coming in as
• 52:39
  an authority on marriages when yours is like absolutely broken. Yeah, and your
• 52:46
  wife hates you. Yeah, and you don't know how to be a good
• 52:50
  husband. Even though you're trying and getting your ayahuasca on, you're not really
• 52:53
  doing it. So I just didn't know how he had the balls to take
• 52:58
  all of these other husbands to task. But at this same time, he's
• 53:01
  not wrong. I know he's not wrong. Well, he's wrong about Danny.
• 53:05
  He said something to Danny about Nea wearing the pants, yes, and
• 53:09
  that he doesn't have confidence. Yeah, that because she is more authoritative and
• 53:15
  she's more assertive. He doesn't have the pants and he doesn't have the confidence
• 53:20
  or whatever. I thought that was wild, And like, Dan, I
• 53:22
  mean, you've got to be very careful when you say something like that to
• 53:25
  your point, which you had just mentioned. But like, I also haven't
• 53:28
  seen that with Nia. No and Danny. They have like a very beautiful
• 53:31
  partnership. It's like lateral, it's it's fifty to fifty. They're both doing
• 53:36
  it together. I haven't seen her pushing him around. I haven't seen her
• 53:39
  dictating anything other than telling him to shut up at the table, like don't
• 53:43
  get into the problem. Yeah no, And like, I mean that's a
• 53:45
  fair point too, Like I wonder what the context is, Like, Danny,
• 53:47
  you don't need to put your two cents into all of these other people's
• 53:52
  fucked up lives, Like you're a man of quality, I assume hopefully if
• 53:55
  you're not a misogynist. But yeah, I don't know what what's his face?
• 54:00
  Jesse was getting at with Danny, Like, I don't know why you
• 54:04
  were saying that she wears the pants? Why because she's got a black belt
• 54:07
  in taekwondo, and she's kind of a confident woman and she says her mind,
• 54:10
  like, what are you getting at? I think it's very telling that
• 54:15
  when he got really drunk and rambunctious, he picks on Danny, and I
• 54:19
  feel like because he's in such an unhappy relationship and he probably sees how well
• 54:23
  balanced Danny and Nia are and how in love they are, Like he's projecting
• 54:29
  bullshit onto them and trying to knock him down a peg because his ego is
• 54:32
  so fucking out of control. So that felt like bullshit to Meah, But
• 54:37
  when he was talking to Jack's, yeah, I felt like he was spot
• 54:40
  on, and it seemed in the moment like Jack's heard him a little bit.
• 54:45
  Well. He was telling Jackson he doesn't have to prove himself to anybody,
• 54:50
  doesn't have to prove himself to his wife. But I'm like he kind
• 54:53
  of does a little bit. I mean, Jack's, you're not doing a
• 54:57
  great job, and if you want to keep your marriage together, then you're
• 55:00
  to have to prove that up and you're gonna have to be a better person.
• 55:01
  You're going to have to show Brittany that. Yeah. But anyway,
• 55:06
  it felt to me like Jack's was taking the critique that his relationship wasn't as
• 55:09
  great as he was saying, and despite them not believing in divorce and they
• 55:14
  will never be separated and she's gonna have to bury him in the backyard and
• 55:16
  he's never leaving her and she is never leaving him, which obviously she has
• 55:21
  gone on to leave him. Huh. Yeah, he's just like also accepting
• 55:23
  that his marriage, just like Jesse's, is on the fence or on the
• 55:28
  rocks. Yeah, and struggling, which I thought was weird. I'm like,
• 55:31
  how can you believe not believe in divorce but then say at the same
• 55:36
  time, like you guys are struggling and having a lot of problems, Like
• 55:38
  you guys aren't screwing, You guys aren't affectionate. You guys cannot communicate,
• 55:44
  can't communicate at all. You freaking fight all the time. She's drunk.
• 55:46
  You're a drunk and probably a co kid. Like you guys are in shambles.
• 55:52
  And I think, like maybe what Jesse was trying to get at is
• 55:54
  like, dude, swallow your pride, Like, just admit that you are
• 55:59
  at fault, that your guys's marriage is failing. I know that sucks.
• 56:01
  I know that's a shitty feeling to feel, and like nobody wants to sit
• 56:06
  there and be like, yeah, we're having problems. We need to go
• 56:07
  to couple's therapy. Like it's really devastating, Like it's hard. Nobody wants
• 56:13
  to feel that. But swallow your pride and do it and be a man
• 56:15
  and work on your marriage if that's what you want, right, And I
• 56:19
  think on the couch, Jesse said that Jackson Brittany are where he and Michelle
• 56:23
  were a year ago, and it's really important at this stage in the relationship
• 56:29
  where things are starting to fall apart, that you see the signs and you
• 56:32
  like immediately address them. Because when they were having their man talk, I
• 56:36
  thought it was pretty poignant when Jesse said, you know, Michelle went this
• 56:39
  way and I kind of corrected to follow her, but she just kept on
• 56:44
  moving and so I never caught up to my wife, and we're not together
• 56:47
  in that way. So I think he's I think he's right. I think
• 56:52
  he sees the writing on the wall and he knows what's happening, but at
• 56:54
  the same time, his own shit is so broken that he doesn't really have
• 56:59
  a leg to stand on as an authority, What did you think As a
• 57:01
  side note, Yeah, what did you think of the Napoleonic complex conversation between
• 57:07
  so good between Jason and Danny. Oh my god, that was so good.
• 57:12
  Them trying to educate Jesse on what a napoleon complex is, because I
• 57:15
  forget how he was defining it. No, Danny was. Danny was saying
• 57:20
  that a Napoleonic complex was when you're a short dude and you want to date
• 57:23
  shorter women because you don't want them to be taller than you think. Jesse
• 57:27
  was saying that, No, that was Danny, and then Jason was saying,
• 57:30
  no, what a Napoleonic complex? It is somebody who is overcompense or
• 57:32
  compensating for being short by being asshole, which is exactly correct. And then
• 57:37
  they were disagreeing about that, and then they went on to google it and
• 57:39
  Jason's entirely right and Danny is wrong. They don't think Danny has a Napoleonic
• 57:45
  complex. I did date somebody with atapoleotical yeahs uncensored. I want to know
• 57:52
  all about it back from uncensored. So I don't think Danny has a Napoleonic
• 57:59
  complex. He does, though, for Jesse does this. That's why when
• 58:01
  I that's why his hair is this so he can make it to five to
• 58:05
  ten, honey. Yeah. And I think he even said Jesse's like,
• 58:07
  I only date girls were like five four and shorter because it makes me feel
• 58:13
  good about myself. And I'm like, is that what Jesse said? I
• 58:15
  thought Jesse said something about he only dates thick girls, he does, and
• 58:20
  short girls. Okay, thick and short, all right. I kind of
• 58:22
  tune out sometimes I'm talking because he's so fucking fulish. I can't with him.
• 58:25
  Thick girls and short girls. Yeah, and he was talking about how
• 58:28
  Michelle used to be thicker than beginning at their relationship. Oh my god,
• 58:31
  he'd probably looks you want some thickness. I'm down with the thickness, down
• 58:40
  with the yes. Okay. Now what we have to talk about is Zach
• 58:45
  and his ig story. Oh my god, because he made a story with
• 58:50
  just like a location pin which said Big Bear and implying, of course that
• 58:53
  he was in Big Bear. It was obviously a troll. It was pretty
• 58:57
  funny, hilarious. He goes over to Chris in this apartment. They have
• 59:00
  a spa day and they're just kind of cackling because I think it's really funny.
• 59:04
  It's like, not too petty. No, it's not too shady,
• 59:07
  it's just kind of cute. But Janet, on the other hand, first
• 59:12
  of all, she's checking his ig stories. Why yeah, why why you're
• 59:15
  so interested? She's crazy, She's crazy checking his ig stories. She sees
• 59:20
  it and she gets really concerned. Does that mean that him and Kristin and
• 59:23
  Luke are somewhere in Big Bear? Are they gonna care here? Do I
• 59:27
  need to call nine one one? I couldn't call down that Janet, And
• 59:31
  I can't remember which guy said it. I think it was like Jesse.
• 59:35
  I think Jesse rolls his eyes and he's like, dude, it chill out.
• 59:38
  They're not in the woods, like they're just being petty. They're probably
• 59:43
  drinking wine. Like it's fine, calm down. But like I said,
• 59:47
  she is chronically online. She is in those common sections. She is so
• 59:52
  concerned about what anybody is doing. Like, girl, you just don't have
• 59:55
  to care. Why are you checking his ig stories? Like what do you
• 59:59
  think he's going to do? For real? That's absolutely nothing. But you're
• 1:00:02
  trying to make a scene and you're also trying to further divide the group so
• 1:00:07
  that Zach and Kristin are no longer invited. I honestly think at this point
• 1:00:10
  in filming last summer, Janet believes she can get rid of Kristin. She
• 1:00:15
  can somehow get Kristin off the show and she can be the real star.
• 1:00:17
  I don't know why she would. It is so low down and dirty because
• 1:00:22
  it's Kristin who brought her onto the show. But I think at this point
• 1:00:24
  she believes that. And I'm just wondering to myself, Janet, what's happening
• 1:00:29
  in your mind as you see being chronically online? How everybody hates you?
• 1:00:34
  Right? Hey, everybody wants you on the show. By the way,
• 1:00:37
  sidebar the Valley was renewed for season two and they're bringing back the entire same
• 1:00:43
  cast. So unfortunately, Janet's coming back. Although maybe fortunately because maybe now
• 1:00:50
  other cast members are going to come for her ooh after seeing what she said,
• 1:00:53
  seeing what she did, and then reading the audience's vibe. I wish
• 1:01:00
  I want them to come for her. I wish they would just surprise us
• 1:01:02
  with the reunion at the end of this season and be like, yeah,
• 1:01:06
  we said no, but we heard you and we're gonna bring it back because
• 1:01:08
  everybody's bitching about it. Jesse even mentioned it on Watch What Happens Live on
• 1:01:12
  Tuesday Night. He's like, yeah, unfortunately, you know, we can't
• 1:01:15
  address some of these things because we're not having a reunion. I'm not sure
• 1:01:17
  why. And Andy didn't say anything to that. Yeah, oh my god,
• 1:01:21
  maybe I'll bring it on. They won't. They won't. They would
• 1:01:23
  have said so already they're not going to do it. And I don't know
• 1:01:25
  why. I mean, it would be great TV. You would have great
• 1:01:29
  ratings, so good, I mean, you would be able to kind of
• 1:01:30
  keep up with the momentum of VPR because it ends right before that. So
• 1:01:34
  I don't understand. But I just think Janet looks so dumb. Oh she
• 1:01:38
  looks so bad. Well what did you think when she got mad when Jesse
• 1:01:43
  shushed her? When she walked out and all the men were having their cry
• 1:01:45
  party, boy party. Yeah, and she's trying to tell them, hey,
• 1:01:49
  it's time to grill or it's time to eat, and Jesse say get
• 1:01:52
  out of here. We're talking. First of all, fuck you, Jesse,
• 1:01:55
  Jason, where are you again? Jason? That's your job to say,
• 1:01:58
  don't talk to my wife like that, right, And he doesn't right,
• 1:02:00
  And Jesse doesn't mean it, and I don't mean to defend him because
• 1:02:04
  I don't like him. Yeah, he doesn't mean it that way. And
• 1:02:07
  when she gets upset, he feels bad. But she gets really upset and
• 1:02:10
  she's like, I'm not out here cooking all of your dinners just for you
• 1:02:14
  to yell at me and dismiss me like that. I thought she was being
• 1:02:16
  a bit dramatic. Yeah, I understand she's pregnant. I understand she's got
• 1:02:21
  all his hormones and stuff. Okay, it's the shield for everything, though,
• 1:02:24
  I know, But like, chill, you guys are on vacation,
• 1:02:29
  everybody's drinking. They're just outside having a bro party. Make your food.
• 1:02:34
  Why do you have to serve them first? Like, why do you have
• 1:02:37
  to have them eat with you? Just make your food. She's like bit,
• 1:02:39
  She's like, I'm hungry and I want to eat. And Jason,
• 1:02:43
  you didn't defend me, which is fair, Like Jason should have done that.
• 1:02:45
  And he does apologize for it when he goes in to comfort her,
• 1:02:49
  and he's like, oh god, she's so fucking crazy. She's a lot.
• 1:02:52
  But he's like, I'm sorry, I was wrong. Yeah, he's
• 1:02:53
  been trained, he knows how to do that. He does. He's like,
• 1:02:57
  I don't like to see her cry, and I'm like, she must
• 1:02:59
  cry a lot then, yeah, yeah. But I'm just like, you
• 1:03:00
  were just being crazy, Janet. She just wants to control everything. She
• 1:03:04
  wants to be the hostess. She wants to be in charge of all the
• 1:03:06
  conversations. She does not want to be told to leave a room because they're
• 1:03:09
  having a grown up conversation without her, And I'm like, why do you
• 1:03:13
  care? Personally, I'm like, if somebody was like leave, I'm talking
• 1:03:15
  to be like hey bye, I would just say something smart, like say,
• 1:03:19
  come on, Janet, you got all this you got all this fire,
• 1:03:22
  you got all this spice. Why don't you tell him to go fuck
• 1:03:24
  himself and go right back in and eat a fucking hot dog. I'm not
• 1:03:28
  gonna let somebody talk to me like that. I'd be like, fuck you
• 1:03:30
  suck deep nuts, and Jason, what the fuck you pussy for? That's
• 1:03:35
  what I would have done. You're a little bit more fiery, well,
• 1:03:37
  but no. But Janet, in the moment, I mean, you're all
• 1:03:39
  talk, babe. You're all talk, and you're all behind the scenes with
• 1:03:43
  your machinations like put it on front street, bitch. Oh yeah, old
• 1:03:47
  Bailey, I'm always hiding behind her pregnancy a cow. But wait that they
• 1:03:52
  would come to big parents scare me when I pregnant. Nobody cares. A
• 1:03:58
  million women are pregnant right now in LA with you, and they're not being
• 1:04:01
  this crazy women been getting pregnant Jesus. I went like, what's your excuse
• 1:04:06
  going to be on season two when you're still a big old bitch. You're
• 1:04:11
  not pregnant and you cannot hide behind your belly. Yeah, what are you
• 1:04:14
  gonna do? Yeah? I don't know. She's just crazy in my opinion.
• 1:04:17
  Yes, we didn't cover Michelle and Jack's at the top of the EISO,
• 1:04:25
  Michelle and Jack's talking about the sexy pictures that Kristen said Michelle sent to
• 1:04:31
  some celebrity, which we don't know who that Celibert is. So Michelle says,
• 1:04:40
  I absolutely send pictures and things like that to my clients because that's part
• 1:04:44
  of networking as a realtor job. Yeah. He's like, okay, but
• 1:04:48
  we're talking sexy photos, like are you sending sexy photos? And she's like,
• 1:04:55
  absolutely not, and Ultimately, Jack's like, well, that's what's being
• 1:04:58
  said. Do you want me to tell your husband that this is the rumor?
• 1:05:01
  Or do you want to go tell him? And she's like, no,
• 1:05:03
  I'll tell him what's being said. So she marches up to the room
• 1:05:08
  where Jesse is and tells him that Kristen is now saying that she is sending
• 1:05:14
  sexy photos to people. And in the moment, it was curious to me
• 1:05:17
  because Jesse kind of had her back because he calls Jackson because he doesn't want
• 1:05:23
  to just hear it from his own wife and trust her opinion in judgment,
• 1:05:26
  so she has to call he has to call Jacks there, But in the
• 1:05:29
  moment he kind of has her back when he's like, well, I mean
• 1:05:31
  that's what we do as realtors. We send pictures, we maintain friendships,
• 1:05:35
  we party with people, that's what it is. But then on the interstitial
• 1:05:41
  and then like with the context that we have sort of behind the scenes,
• 1:05:44
  we realize that that's not okay. Yeah, and he's not happy with that,
• 1:05:47
  but he does try to kind of cover for her in the moment,
• 1:05:50
  which is sort of chivalrous a little man. I'm like, it's so weird.
• 1:05:57
  They're very weird to me because in his interstitial, Jesse's like, yeah,
• 1:06:00
  I'm always telling Michelle to go and give her number out to famous people
• 1:06:05
  and celebrities so I can get clients and stuff. I'm always telling her to
• 1:06:09
  like pimp herself out basically to all these people. So it's like, Okay,
• 1:06:13
  you guys have kind of like an arrangement going on. I don't think
• 1:06:15
  it's like he's telling her send titty picks, like he's not saying that.
• 1:06:20
  But he also says he didn't know about sexy pictures though, right, yeah,
• 1:06:25
  exactly, and she's of course denying it still, which I'm just like,
• 1:06:28
  girl, you're ready to leave him, so why don't you just say
• 1:06:31
  it? I know it's not the right time, but and I think on
• 1:06:34
  Watch What Happens Live, his response regarding the reunion has to do with whether
• 1:06:40
  he believed Michelle was sending sexy pictures and he wished he could have addressed it
• 1:06:45
  and other things in a reunion. But I also think he said he said
• 1:06:50
  or he made like she did actually send a sexy pictures. I believe also
• 1:06:56
  on Watch What Happens Live, it was Mary fuck kill for Jesse, and
• 1:07:00
  it was who would you marry who? Jail It was Kristin, Nia and
• 1:07:05
  Janet, and he said, I'd marry Kristen and I don't want to answer
• 1:07:10
  the rest of the question. WHOA something like that. I mean, he
• 1:07:13
  kind of he was thinking about it. He's like, I don't want to
• 1:07:15
  answer the rest of the question. But I thought it was very interesting that
• 1:07:17
  he would choose to marry which is the highest I would say Nia would be
• 1:07:23
  the one he'd want to marry, but he chose to marry Kristen. So
• 1:07:26
  I'm wondering what's happening behind the scenes, if there's conversations, if there's re
• 1:07:29
  engagement of relationships, whether he's now friends with Kristin interest Yeah, maybe they
• 1:07:35
  are friends. That would be really cool to see, like on season two,
• 1:07:40
  like Kristen comes back and everybody turns their back against Janet. That would
• 1:07:44
  be so Chef's kiss perfect. But I bet it's because he didn't want to
• 1:07:47
  answer it because he would want to fuck Nia. He's kind of said it,
• 1:07:50
  like in the drag party that they had where he was like kind of
• 1:07:54
  talking about like threesomes or something, like everybody was talking about threesomes and a
• 1:07:58
  lot of people said, nia, but I want or if like maybe that's
• 1:08:00
  like a point of contention between him and Danny. And after I wonder and
• 1:08:04
  his girlfriend was in the audience. Oh, he said that, so Jesse's
• 1:08:09
  yeah, Jesse's got a girl. Jess, He's got a girlfriend. Michelle's
• 1:08:11
  got a boyfriend. And he said that Michelle and her new boyfriend were actually
• 1:08:15
  over to his house for like a dinner party and they were the last to
• 1:08:17
  leave. And so they're on like good terms. Ye, they're on good
• 1:08:20
  terms. They're having a good relationship. I mean, that's good for your
• 1:08:24
  kid. It's kind of weird, though, it is a little odd who
• 1:08:27
  would want to date Jesse? I know, who thinks in their right mind?
• 1:08:30
  I don't know. I want to talk that. You know. I
• 1:08:32
  keep thinking that we're in twenty twenty four and men should know how to be
• 1:08:38
  good people. Yeah, just like women should know how to be good people.
• 1:08:41
  But you have these men out here like Diddy, you have these men
• 1:08:44
  out here like Jesse. Not that they're just they're not the same. I'm
• 1:08:46
  not trying to say they're the same, but like you have these toxic masculinity,
• 1:08:49
  these dudes that haven't learned anything oh yeah, Like, I don't know
• 1:08:53
  who would want to be with him. He's unenlightened and he's not necessarily good
• 1:08:58
  to women and or children. It's just like Jack's and Sandbal and Schwartz and
• 1:09:01
  all these other dudes, like all of you suck. Yeah, even James
• 1:09:05
  allegedly like all of you suck. Now. Jesse did say on Watch What
• 1:09:11
  Happens Live with regard to the hallway incident with Kristen and everybody else where,
• 1:09:15
  he was acting like a damn fool. Yeah, that he was definitely in
• 1:09:17
  a bad place. He was in a very reactive state of his life,
• 1:09:20
  and like he wished he would have handled it differently. Well that's good.
• 1:09:24
  He didn't come straight out and apologize for it, but he did seem to
• 1:09:26
  acknowledge that he was acting like an asshole. So maybe he's becoming conscious,
• 1:09:30
  like Ai, becoming self aware that like he needs to make some changes in
• 1:09:33
  his life, and hopefully he does. Well, maybe the ayahuasca did help
• 1:09:38
  him. Maybe he had a breakthrough and he go dead they break Was there
• 1:09:42
  anything else in this episode that was in tel Us? I mean that was
• 1:09:45
  pretty much it. I mean Jason and Jesse were totally calling Jackson at the
• 1:09:49
  very end, saying that he was in denial of the state of his marriage.
• 1:09:54
  And I thought that was super based, And I'm like, I'm glad
• 1:09:57
  the guys can see that. Brittany, I don't know. I'm like,
• 1:10:01
  the way she reacted with Jacks, I'm like, what do you mean?
• 1:10:05
  Just well, like not bad on her part, like she's right to be
• 1:10:09
  mad and everything, but I'm just like, yikes, you guys are in
• 1:10:12
  such a bad spot to like be fighting in front of everybody. I mean,
• 1:10:15
  when you're fighting in front of your friends, that's bad. It's really
• 1:10:18
  bad. You're on your way out. Yeah, it's so awkward for everybody
• 1:10:24
  to be in the room with y'all. So awkward, And I'm glad that
• 1:10:27
  all the girls were like supporting Brittany and everything and just like being there while
• 1:10:30
  she cries as her husband straight up screams at her for being a drunk.
• 1:10:33
  And you know, I think she has a fair point where he's totally trying
• 1:10:38
  to make her out to be like this horrible, terrible person. And that's
• 1:10:41
  where I was saying earlier. I'm like, I don't know if she is
• 1:10:44
  a full on fledged drunk, I would hope not, because she's got a
• 1:10:46
  kid and everything. It seems like Jack's, like you've been saying all season,
• 1:10:50
  He's trying to make her look bad for custody and for like the inevitable
• 1:10:55
  divorce. Do you believe him when he says that he doesn't believe in divorce
• 1:10:59
  and that he would ever be separated. I mean, obviously they are separated,
• 1:11:01
  and obviously Brittany has agency so she can leave if she wants to,
• 1:11:05
  But like, do we think he really wants to save this marriage? I
• 1:11:11
  I'm gonna go uncensored. Well, let's come back from uncensored. Yeah,
• 1:11:14
  thank you for sharing that tidbit. And if you guys want to hear the
• 1:11:16
  uncensored did bits, well then you have to subscribe to our pagerey On.
• 1:11:20
  But what we were talking about, whether we believe Jacks and him saying that
• 1:11:25
  he's just not the divorcing kind, and do we think that he really wants
• 1:11:29
  to save this relationship or is it for appearance's sake that he says these types
• 1:11:32
  of things? Yeah, totally for appearances. I mean I think he doesn't
• 1:11:36
  want divorce as a label, Like he doesn't want to be somebody who's divorced
• 1:11:41
  in his mid forties and single, kind of like Schwartz being like, oh
• 1:11:45
  God, now I'm forty something and I'm single. This is miserable. Or
• 1:11:48
  Jesse talking about being forty two. Well he's now forty four and being single
• 1:11:51
  and having a kid, Like he doesn't want that. It's a failure to
• 1:11:55
  a man, Yes, And I mean it's fair, it's a fair point,
• 1:11:59
  Like it's a failure to a lot of people. Like people think divorce
• 1:12:01
  is like such a terrible thing, but at the same time, it's like
• 1:12:04
  it is what it is. Like if you guys get together and your marriage
• 1:12:09
  sucks and you've tried everything in your power to fix it and couples therapy and
• 1:12:14
  YadA, YadA, YadA, and it's still not working, that's fine,
• 1:12:16
  break up, pull the plug. It's fine. Yeah, But there's there's
• 1:12:20
  still such a stigma around divorce, which I just find interesting because divorce has
• 1:12:24
  become so much more like common nowadays, Right, there's still that heavy stigma,
• 1:12:30
  like people still look at you like, oh, you're divorced. I
• 1:12:32
  just found it interesting. I'm like, does Jacks really have that kind of
• 1:12:35
  a traditional value around marriage and around his wife and like I just I'm like
• 1:12:43
  dubious that he has any values. Like, yeah, the way you act
• 1:12:45
  like you have no home training, but like you have this particular traditional value
• 1:12:49
  was just a little wild to me, a little weird a little bit,
• 1:12:51
  but I thought it was interesting. Yeah, so did we have a preview?
• 1:12:56
  We did, right, What did we see in the preview? Yeah,
• 1:12:58
  there was some issue with Jackson Brittany, and then there's issues with Danny
• 1:13:02
  and Nea, right, and that was kind of it. It was like
• 1:13:04
  the last bits of Big Bear, and I think zach'son there somewhere. It
• 1:13:09
  is really unfair. Can I just lodge a complaint with management? Sure?
• 1:13:13
  It is really unfair that they're going to spend three whole fucking episodes out of
• 1:13:16
  twelve. I don't know how to do math, but like, isn't that
• 1:13:18
  like thirty percent or something of the entire season? Three whole episodes with no
• 1:13:26
  Kristen and no Zach. Which is why again, Zach got really upset because
• 1:13:30
  he knew what this actually meant in terms of the show, and that by
• 1:13:34
  him not being able to go and being able to film, he might not
• 1:13:38
  get money, but he also might not be able to be asked back because
• 1:13:41
  he doesn't have enough FaceTime with the cast and in front of the camera,
• 1:13:44
  so he knew what this would potentially cost him. Yeah, and I'm just
• 1:13:46
  like, why are we spending three whole episodes on a baby moon orchestrated by
• 1:13:53
  Janet without Kristen, who is the o g that she needs to be there
• 1:13:58
  and the production company to make sure that she's there. And by the way,
• 1:14:01
  if you're going to refuse to film with somebody, then get the fuck
• 1:14:04
  off the show. Janet and Michelle, first of all, we don't need
• 1:14:08
  you, we don't like you. By like, you shouldn't be able to
• 1:14:10
  as a reality cast member to say well, I'm not Giselle from Potomac,
• 1:14:14
  I'm not going to film with Candace or I'm not gonna film with this other
• 1:14:16
  person. Well, then you shouldn't be on the show at all. And
• 1:14:20
  they really need to knock Janet down a pig. And Michelle like, if
• 1:14:24
  you want to come back season two, you have to film and we're not
• 1:14:27
  icing anybody out. Yeah, especially Kristin. I agree with that. That's
• 1:14:30
  a really good point and just feels super weird, Like even on VPR,
• 1:14:34
  it's kind of the same thing with Arianna refusing to film with Sandoval, but
• 1:14:38
  then she inevitably does because it's probably part of her contract. But it's just
• 1:14:42
  like you're tanking VPR. It's totally gonna be canceled. I feel like,
• 1:14:45
  in my opinion, it's gonna be shitty. Now you have this spinoff of
• 1:14:48
  the Valley and you have this bitch Janice on here that nobody wants, nobody
• 1:14:54
  wants jenbody asked for, nobody wants Michelle, nobody wants Jesse. They all
• 1:14:58
  suck. Isn't Michelle a dud? Oh my god? She brings nothing,
• 1:15:00
  no energy, nothing, nothing, And she's a liar, right, Like,
• 1:15:03
  why are you gonna be lying that it's not reality? If you're lying,
• 1:15:06
  yes, I don't want to see that because we can see through right
• 1:15:10
  through it. So yeah, it's just kind of interesting. I just don't
• 1:15:12
  want them to like do what they did with VPR on the Valley and ruin
• 1:15:15
  it there because I'm actually enjoying the Valley. I think it's interesting. I
• 1:15:17
  do as well. I think all these marriage dynamics, all this stuff like
• 1:15:21
  it's fascinating to me. I do as well. And as we have discussed
• 1:15:25
  previously, it's because they don't know how to be reality stars. You can
• 1:15:29
  see Jax trying to produce like Lawla right. You can see Jax and Brittany
• 1:15:32
  trying to advance certain storylines so as to deflect away from the problems that they
• 1:15:36
  have, although Jacks is also putting that on Front Street, which I love.
• 1:15:40
  I love to see him being a basket case. I love to see
• 1:15:42
  her barfing and being drunk all the time because that's real. But you can
• 1:15:45
  also see how he's trained in reality TV and he's trying to create a show.
• 1:15:49
  Jesse's not though, and Jasmine's not, and Zach is not, and
• 1:15:54
  all of these other people aren't, and so they're making like mistakes and showing
• 1:15:58
  their hand and I love to see it. I love too. That's what
• 1:16:00
  I want. That's what I want too. So they're all coming back for
• 1:16:03
  next season, and hopefully there's going to be some kind of a reckoning,
• 1:16:06
  because not having Kristin prominent in three episodes is a mistake totally. She should
• 1:16:15
  have been there. Can you imagine if she was there, like the kind
• 1:16:16
  of drama we would have seen, the kind of conversations we would have seen,
• 1:16:20
  the shit that she knows that she might have been talking about. But
• 1:16:24
  production allowed Janet to pull this power move, and now we've got this bullshit.
• 1:16:28
  I wonder why is it because of Kristen's whole racist stuff back then?
• 1:16:31
  Is that why? Maybe? You know? But I mean, if you're
• 1:16:34
  going to build a show around Kristin, then you shouldn't be worried about that,
• 1:16:39
  right because you are choosing to platform her again. So let her be
• 1:16:42
  on the show, I think. And I hope that the production company and
• 1:16:45
  Brava learns from this season and that they make sure that she's featured and that
• 1:16:51
  she's respected in this way in season two, and I hope that they allow
• 1:16:56
  her to comfort Channet and Michelle suck. Michelle, I mean, honestly call
• 1:16:59
  her out. You've bin lying you are anti LGBTQ. Yeah, you potentially
• 1:17:04
  might be racist, yep. I mean, I don't know if you're a
• 1:17:08
  Republican, that doesn't mean that you're racist, but like you might be all
• 1:17:11
  of these things that Janet said that you were. But we actually never got
• 1:17:14
  to have that conversation though, because of all the obfuscation and dog piling on
• 1:17:18
  Kristen. So let's have that conversation season two. Let's find out who you
• 1:17:21
  really are, Michelle, that would be nice, and Janet, but the
• 1:17:25
  producers even have all these bitches on the after show for VPR, Like Janet
• 1:17:30
  was on the after show at the very end, piping in with her dumb
• 1:17:32
  takes about this show. I might get off my television. Yeah, I
• 1:17:36
  just love though. Sorry, this is gonna be really petty, and I
• 1:17:40
  apologize in advance. As the old woman in the room, I feel like
• 1:17:44
  I get to say shady bullshit, shady bullshitty things. But like the what
• 1:17:49
  Janet's wearing in the after show, she's got this side boob girder arm fat.
• 1:17:55
  I noticed that this brisket fat pad just kind of pouring out from She's
• 1:18:00
  going to watch it back, and she's been watching it and she's going to
• 1:18:01
  be like so mortified because it does not look good. Girls. So she's
• 1:18:05
  sitting in that chair giving her opinion. But she got her whole brisket out.
• 1:18:10
  She got her whole brisk it's so bad. Oh we need is a
• 1:18:15
  smokerr Yeah, just we need to smoke her some coleslaws and beans. All
• 1:18:19
  right? Is there anything else about this season? This episode? Rather that
• 1:18:24
  was pretty much it? Okay, unless you had any other thoughts. I
• 1:18:28
  don't have any other thoughts in this entire head. So is there anything else
• 1:18:31
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• 1:18:34
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