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  Speaker 1: Is the report it tonight. It's a stunning example of
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  Speaker 1: how the media lies about Donald Trump, one of the
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  Speaker 1: most discussing examples yet. Plus Kevin rad Our, ambassador in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: calls from the Trump camp to sack him. Also tonight.
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  Speaker 1: A killing and a brawl on Saturday sure shows her
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  Speaker 1: immigration has changed Melbourne and how politicians today is such
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  Speaker 1: a shut up about quantus freebies is a clue the
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  Speaker 1: opposition has just gone ooops. But voters must not let
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  Speaker 1: this go. And plenty more, including is the woman the conservative?
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  Speaker 1: This woman here the conservative leader who can help save
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  Speaker 1: the West. But first it warms my heart as someone
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  Speaker 1: who used to work for labor, I finally see the
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  Speaker 1: Abeza government fighting for the bats, real battlers like Education
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  Speaker 1: Minister Jason Clair, who was battling after an operation and
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  Speaker 1: a skin cancer and his leg and thought he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: possibly fly in economy on a holiday to Singapore. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course it was out of the question that he
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  Speaker 1: paid for this upgrade to business out of his own pocket.
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  Speaker 2: I had surgery on my leg and yep, I asked
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  Speaker 2: for upgrade and I was assisted by Quannas.
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  Speaker 3: So who do you ask in that scenario?
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I remember picking up the phone and asking
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  Speaker 2: for a bit of assistance there, but I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: all of the details.
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  Speaker 1: No, of course he could remember the details. Who remembers
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  Speaker 1: a person who's just given you a gift worth What
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  Speaker 1: was that about three thousand dollars each way? I do wonder, though,
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  Speaker 1: why was Quantas's duty to pay for the minister's extra comfort?
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  Speaker 1: Were indeed for the comfort of the Prime Minister giving
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanese upgrades for his own holidays the Rome, Honolulu, Thailand, London, Singapore,
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  Speaker 1: Wild of Life? But Albertizi yesterday decided to change the
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  Speaker 1: conversation away from all these freebes. It was time for
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  Speaker 1: him to finally give out his own freebees and yes
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  Speaker 1: to battler's Alberanzi decided to give sixteen billion dollars in
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  Speaker 1: gifts to some of the poorest, most deprived, most disadvantaged,
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  Speaker 1: most desperate battlers in the country university students. A hand
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  Speaker 1: out to students who are already getting a university education,
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  Speaker 1: which should help them earn more than most taxpayers who
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  Speaker 1: must help pay for this Albanzi gift because someone always
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  Speaker 1: pays for Albanesi. The gift is this explained by the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister and what was an unofficial start to his
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  Speaker 1: election campaign to try to back the get take back
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  Speaker 1: the agenda after months of drift and do the first
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  Speaker 1: big election handout.
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  Speaker 4: A re elected Labor government will take twenty percent off
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  Speaker 4: student debt for everyone who has won. It will be
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  Speaker 4: the first piece of legislation that we bring into the
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  Speaker 4: next parliament. This measure alone means a typical university graduate
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  Speaker 4: will see their debt cut by five and a half
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not all. These students can earn more income
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  Speaker 1: before repaying less of their debt. That could be another
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  Speaker 1: thirteen hundred dollars a year in their pockets. This must
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  Speaker 1: show be a joke. I mean any upen easy today
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  Speaker 1: posed with understandably grateful students, but Australian workers in shops
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  Speaker 1: and factories around the country and the farmers too, they
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  Speaker 1: must help to subsidize even more the university students studying
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  Speaker 1: some arts degree saying postcolonial studies or some financial topic
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  Speaker 1: to supercharge their business career. How is that fair? The
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  Speaker 1: opposition is against it. When will the reckless.
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  Speaker 3: Spending stop sixteen billion dollars to benefit three million people.
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  Speaker 3: It appears to be a once off. So if you've
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  Speaker 3: got a hextet next July, lucky you. If you've already
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  Speaker 3: paid it off, Not so lucky you. You've paid it
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  Speaker 3: off at full price. An extraordinary move that seems designed
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  Speaker 3: just to get the Green vote back to Labor, So
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven million people will.
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  Speaker 5: Pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: But you want to know why Albanize is promising this
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  Speaker 1: spendethon on students who vote for US guys, and will
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  Speaker 1: reward you after the election. This is more or less
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  Speaker 1: a Greens policy. This is Albanizi using your money to
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  Speaker 1: win young voters from the Greens for Labor. But there's
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  Speaker 1: something else about that pretend campaign launch yesterday that looked
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  Speaker 1: so flat, that looked so fake. I mean, there was
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  Speaker 1: Anthony actually giving that speech to an audience of carefully
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  Speaker 1: selected labor politicians and unions, people who could be relied
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  Speaker 1: on to clap at the right places, hold up their
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  Speaker 1: American style rally signs at the right time. Yet even
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  Speaker 1: then the whole thing lacked zin.
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  Speaker 6: Our Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi.
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  Speaker 1: But another thing I wanted to point out about Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: campaign launched yesterday. His big pitch for voting labor.
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  Speaker 4: We have delivered back to back budget surpass for the
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  Speaker 4: first time in nelly two decades. This is an economic
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  Speaker 4: record that we are so proud of, and more than that,
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  Speaker 4: it's the foundation for building Australia's future.
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  Speaker 1: Well it scares me because if Anthony Albertiez's two budget
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  Speaker 1: surpluses built on windfall prices for our minerals r indeed
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  Speaker 1: the foundation for our future, we have some bad news coming.
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  Speaker 1: What Albanizi does not say or explain is that laborer
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  Speaker 1: is now saying in budget papers, so the next ten
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  Speaker 1: budgets will instead be in the red. Those two years
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  Speaker 1: of surpluses will be followed by a decade of deficits,
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  Speaker 1: which is why he's going to call the election before
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  Speaker 1: he hands out the next budget, hands down the next budget,
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  Speaker 1: which will point all that out very clearly. Ten years
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  Speaker 1: coming of deficits is not a foundation for our future
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  Speaker 1: at all. But never mind that. Look at Albanize's new
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  Speaker 1: freebi this time not a quantus upgrade for himself, but
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  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars ahead for students who've racked up a debt,
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  Speaker 1: and not a cent, by the way, for the students
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  Speaker 1: who have actually paid off their debt. What a government freebie, economics,
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  Speaker 1: freebie politics now wonder A new poll by GXOS Strategies
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  Speaker 1: says the words that voters most associate with Albanizi now
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  Speaker 1: are week followed by leader incompetent and useless and no
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  Speaker 1: wonder that our living standards have fallen? When do you
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  Speaker 1: think they'll rise again? But you know the weird thing
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  Speaker 1: about question tomy Parliament today, Suddenly there was not one
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  Speaker 1: question about Anthony Albanese's quantus upgrades or now Jason Clare's.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these upgrades are a huge story last week,
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  Speaker 1: not one question today. And I think what you're seeing
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  Speaker 1: is the political class, liberal and Labor closing ranks, defending
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  Speaker 1: their privileges. You see the Coalitions Transport spokesman Bridget McKenzie
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  Speaker 1: may have a whole bunch of upgrades. She yourself did
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  Speaker 1: not declare, she says, just checking them out. Now joining
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  Speaker 1: me is the panel Coalition Environment spokesman Jonathan Dunham and
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  Speaker 1: Michael Danby former Federal Labor MP Andrew Then is this
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  Speaker 1: no longer an issue because some Liberals and Nationals may
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  Speaker 1: have done the same as they're accusing labor of or
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  Speaker 1: is it even more an issue now that we know
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  Speaker 1: that everyone's into it.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it remains an issue, Andrew. I mean, the questions
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  Speaker 7: around the Prime Minister's procurement of and receipt of upgrades
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  Speaker 7: remains an issue that he needs to clear up. You know,
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  Speaker 7: there are other issues they focused on in question time
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  Speaker 7: in the House of Reps today, of course, but in
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  Speaker 7: the Senate in Senate estimates, it remained an issue that
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  Speaker 7: was talked about and asked about as well. Look, and
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  Speaker 7: there is a big difference between what the PM has
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  Speaker 7: done or hasn't done in terms of the arrangements around
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  Speaker 7: these free flight upgrades that he received and perhaps other
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  Speaker 7: cases including that of Jason Clare's as well. I draw
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  Speaker 7: a distinction there, but it remains an issue and it
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  Speaker 7: does go to the Prime Minister's credibility. I mean, he
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  Speaker 7: still has to rule out that there was no request
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  Speaker 7: from anyone in his office around these upgrades that were
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  Speaker 7: sought and received, So their things only he can answer.
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  Speaker 7: As for Bridget Mackenzie, well, she'll tell us what she
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  Speaker 7: needs to tell us, She'll make declarations and all will
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  Speaker 7: be revealed. But it remains an issue in Australians deserve
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  Speaker 7: the truth on all of these issues.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Danby had to laugh when I heard Teal independent
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  Speaker 1: a leg respender say well, politicians should stop getting flight upgrades,
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  Speaker 1: which I certainly think there's a case for that for
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  Speaker 1: holiday travel, certainly, but I had to think, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: easy for a legal responder to say when she herself
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  Speaker 1: is worth more than one hundred million dollars and paying
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  Speaker 1: for her own upgrades is no pain at all. But
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  Speaker 1: do you think there should be banned from up accepting
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  Speaker 1: upgrades on private fly I.
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  Speaker 6: Think you have to differentiate andrew between upgrading for private travel,
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  Speaker 6: soliciting private soliciting upgrades, and particularly ministers who are in
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  Speaker 6: portfolios where there could be policy issues getting upgrades when
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  Speaker 6: you're Transport Minister or shadow Transport minister. And then you
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  Speaker 6: have to decide on whether Qatar Airlines comes into this country.
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  Speaker 6: For the average punter, they want cheap international and local
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  Speaker 6: air flights and they want to know what was the
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  Speaker 6: basis for this government deciding against Qatar Airlines. If it
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  Speaker 6: was Paul Keating or someone from the past, be the
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  Speaker 6: lowest possible price for the average Australian that would be
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  Speaker 6: the labor view. It's not. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Look if the government said we're banning a Qatar airways
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  Speaker 1: because the Katari government is actually too close for Hamas
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  Speaker 1: and O there is the mystericists groups like the Muslim
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  Speaker 1: brother I said, fine, but it hasn't said that has said.
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  Speaker 6: There's no principle there. Andrew, there's no principle.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't principle.
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  Speaker 6: Undisclosed reason and we should find out what it is.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what they should have been drilling down. I
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  Speaker 6: am surprised like you that there wasn't one question on
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  Speaker 6: that policy and principal issue at question time today.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I have tried to raise this with the opposition
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  Speaker 1: that this is a moral question as much as economic.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Anthony Avenuez is kind of kind of campaign launched yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear that his stopped governing, is now in campaign mode.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to run through probably until about April
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  Speaker 1: next year, March more likely. Well. Either offering a big
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  Speaker 1: bribe to university students twenty percent off their student debt,
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  Speaker 1: is that a good idea?
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  Speaker 7: No, it's not, Andrew, and your point around this being
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  Speaker 7: a government now in campaign mode rather than governing and
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  Speaker 7: trying to solve the problems that Australians are facing is
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  Speaker 7: proven by the point that they're still after this week.
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  Speaker 7: We're including this week three sitting weeks left. So if
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  Speaker 7: it is so important to ease this burden on the
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  Speaker 7: three million university students or holders of HEX debt, then
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  Speaker 7: why not bring in a bill to or whatever form
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  Speaker 7: of regulatory instrument needs to be brought in to relieve
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  Speaker 7: them of this debt, rather than making them wait until
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  Speaker 7: after the next election. It's just mad that this government
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  Speaker 7: would think that people wouldn't see through what this is.
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  Speaker 7: And as you say, this is an election gimmick, the
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  Speaker 7: fact that we are spending taxpayers money. We have to
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  Speaker 7: remember and people have to remember this is not a
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  Speaker 7: gift from the government, this benevolent government to ease people's
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  Speaker 7: burdens when it comes to HEX debts. This is taxpayers money.
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  Speaker 7: The people that pay these taxes that are going to
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  Speaker 7: be the gift to the three million university students, including
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  Speaker 7: lawyers and doctors and other high paid professionals, are the
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  Speaker 7: taxpayers who are struggling to pay their mortgages, pay their
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  Speaker 7: power bills, put their kids through school. So it is
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  Speaker 7: again a cash splash. It doesn't go to the root
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  Speaker 7: cause of any of the causes of cost of life.
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  Speaker 7: It's just like they're three hundred dollars handout for power
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  Speaker 7: bill relief, artificially reducing the cost of power by using
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  Speaker 7: your tax dollars to bring down the bill. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: this is labor economics and it is not going to
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  Speaker 7: help anyone. And you can't pay for over the cracks forever.
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  Speaker 7: We need proper solutions.
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  Speaker 1: And Michael I also wondered what was the national interest
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  Speaker 1: in this, right, it's nice to give people handouts, although
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  Speaker 1: why students, why not you know, pensions whatever. But Albany,
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  Speaker 1: he says, look the bigger picture building the nation. He
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  Speaker 1: wants to encourage more people to go to university. But
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  Speaker 1: this handouts are going to students who already at university.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how does that work.
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  Speaker 6: It's so imitative of the Joe Biden student loan bribe
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  Speaker 6: that was brought unstuck by the courts. There. Students who
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  Speaker 6: are going to be in from March won't get it,
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  Speaker 6: and students who already graduated don't get it. It just
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  Speaker 6: seems so obvious and so targeted to a March election.
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  Speaker 6: That's the blatancy of this is just sort of awesome
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  Speaker 6: and breasktaking socially inequitable I mean the average tradesman. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: there's a good case for driving down university fees, but
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  Speaker 6: they were to be sitting on these useless university bis
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  Speaker 6: chances a lot harder to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to see I'd like to see a
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  Speaker 1: little cling of some of the more useless ones too.
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  Speaker 1: Thinking about the freebie culture, Jonathan, You've found something extraordinary
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  Speaker 1: about the Department of Climate Change, Energy and Environment of Water.
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  Speaker 1: This is a department, this is the department that wants
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  Speaker 1: asked to slash our emissions, but it seems it's doing
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  Speaker 1: a lousy job slashing its own.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're not wrong, Andrew. And do you believe since
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  Speaker 7: May of twenty twenty two, they've added to their ranks
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  Speaker 7: two three hundred public servants. But in the last three
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  Speaker 7: months alone, our good friends at the Department of Climate Change,
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  Speaker 7: Energy and Water, et cetera, have gone and taken over
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  Speaker 7: six six hundred flights, that is in three months, and
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  Speaker 7: they've spent two point three in excess of two point
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  Speaker 7: three million dollars on these flights. And then again taxpayers
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  Speaker 7: money for these people to go to wherever it is
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  Speaker 7: within Australia or overseas they need to go. But in
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  Speaker 7: three months, that is an obscene amount of money. Your
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  Speaker 7: money being spent on getting these people to meetings. I
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  Speaker 7: expect they'd be able to do over Zoom or teams
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  Speaker 7: or something like that. But this is the kind of
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  Speaker 7: culture we have here in Camber now, where it's other
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  Speaker 7: people's money and it doesn't matter how we spend it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what about the emissions, guys, what hypocrites? What about
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  Speaker 1: the emissions? Absolutely, you make a good point. Why not
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  Speaker 1: on Zoom or something like that, Michael, immigration, it changes
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  Speaker 1: the country. I don't need to tell you that, because
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  Speaker 1: we've seen what a difference that Muslim immigration has made
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  Speaker 1: to Australia, especially to Jews here now. Also in North Melbourne,
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  Speaker 1: your city, on Saturday, a rapper of South Sudanese background
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  Speaker 1: shot outside a rave party, leading to a big brawl
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  Speaker 1: between what's been described as games, with the leader of
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  Speaker 1: the South Sudanese community warning that community. Please tell young
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  Speaker 1: people to be at home overnight and not be moving.
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  Speaker 1: Lock your doors and call triple to zero for safety.
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  Speaker 1: If your children's houses are marked and known, please seek
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  Speaker 1: alternative accommodation. This is not the kind of community warning
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  Speaker 1: I've ever heard in Melbourne before, and I wasn't told
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  Speaker 1: that this would be a consequence of an immigration intake.
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  Speaker 6: These people maybe Australian citizens Andrew, they're probably the sons
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  Speaker 6: of immigrants, and the South Sudanese are overwhelmingly a Christian
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  Speaker 6: group that's come to this country. I think would have
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  Speaker 6: been a lot better. I tried to convince the Department
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  Speaker 6: of Immigration to take the people from West Sudan, if
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  Speaker 6: we're taking any people from that country who are actually
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  Speaker 6: Muslims and who are really oppressed by the the extremist
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  Speaker 6: ideology of the government of Sudan. But we were ignored
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  Speaker 6: and they built along people from a very violent area,
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  Speaker 6: and they seem to be not able to identify the
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  Speaker 6: police these people because it's politically incorrected to identify ethnic origins,
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  Speaker 6: and they should be able to act against them. And
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  Speaker 6: it's outrageous that people are told to stay at home
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  Speaker 6: because you know, you may have mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is look one of the reasons is
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  Speaker 1: not coming on. It's so legally dangerous. So I got
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  Speaker 1: had all the usual and ment explanations, not all Sudanese.
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  Speaker 1: The South Sudanese are violent. We're not talking about people
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  Speaker 1: inherently being violent. It is more bringing people from a
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  Speaker 1: war culture. You know, there's a civil war there. It
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  Speaker 1: brutalizes people or whatever. I don't know, but you can't
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  Speaker 1: be blind to some of the consequences. Michael Danby Jonathan Unheam.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you both for your time to the American election,
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  Speaker 1: which will be Wednesday. Our time will begin in the results,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll go to the polls later. It's so close.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone who tells you they really know who's going to win,
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  Speaker 1: they don't. But the media has yet again done something
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  Speaker 1: so discussing that I need to explain something I've seen
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  Speaker 1: so many articles by writers of the left. How can
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  Speaker 1: this election be so close when there's Donald Trump, you know,
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  Speaker 1: convicted felon, accused of rapeer, liar, a bragger to the
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  Speaker 1: New Hitler. Even well, let's leave aside the fact that
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  Speaker 1: there are two people in this race. The other one
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  Speaker 1: is Kamla Harris, who's a self a liar and a
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  Speaker 1: woke full There's something else, though, that has me and
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  Speaker 1: many others who don't like Trump's style hoping that hell
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  Speaker 1: he will win. We cannot let the mainstream media and
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  Speaker 1: America's deep state bureaucracy win. They're back again, and they're
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  Speaker 1: the real threats to American democracy. You just think how
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  Speaker 1: the FBI and the State Department used bogus intelligence paid
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  Speaker 1: for by the Democrats to tie up Trump for years
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  Speaker 1: of fake claims that he stole the twenty sixteen election
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  Speaker 1: by colluding with Russia. How you know Democrat pro prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: now for the last year or two tried to get
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  Speaker 1: Trump jailed or disqualified and all sorts of charges that
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  Speaker 1: are clearly politically motivated. But I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the mainstream media, in particular the outright lying in his
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  Speaker 1: They to stop Trump like this latest campaign. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: is the new Hitler now that started with former Trump
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  Speaker 1: chief of staff John Kelly, Trump fired now more than
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  Speaker 1: five years later, just before the election, says I heard
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump praise Hitler, something you no other Trump aid remembers,
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  Speaker 1: and then Harris and immediate mates claimed all. Trump's rally
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  Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden last week that was deliberately repeat
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  Speaker 1: of a Nazi style rally held there in nineteen thirty nine.
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  Speaker 1: But in the last few days we've had even our
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  Speaker 1: a see Rann ABC a fake shock. Trump wants one
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  Speaker 1: of his prominent female critics. So this is Chiney now
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  Speaker 1: put in front of a line of rifles, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like an execution squad. This has more hit the stuff
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  Speaker 1: America's media lift went nuts.
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  Speaker 2: He's saying, quite explicitly and unambiguously, that Liz Kendey should
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  Speaker 2: be shot, should be executed by firing squad.
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  Speaker 8: Four days out from election day and former President Donald
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  Speaker 8: Trump is escalating his violent rhetoric, suggesting one of his
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  Speaker 8: most prominent critics, the former congresswoman Liz Cheney, should be
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: fired upon.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: But what he says, nine barrels shooting at her.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: That obviously evokes images of a firing squad. It evokes
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: images of an execution.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Let's execute a political opponent who happens to be a woman,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: such a lie and so easily exposed. This is what
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Trump really said, if it? Cheney is so keen on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: getting the US to fight wolves and send her.
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: She's a radical warhawk. Let's put her with a rifle,
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: standing there with nine barrel shooting at her. Okay, let's
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: see how she feels about it. You know, when the
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: guns are trained on her face. You know, there are
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: warhawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, oh, Gie,
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: will let's send let's send ten thousand troops right into
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: the mouth of the enemy.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The media lying is so shameless and it's constant. Much
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of America's mainstream media now is totally corrupted. They cannot
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: be allowed to steal an election with lies. Joining me
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is Donald Trump's last YieF of staff when he was president,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Mick mulveney, Big Mlvney, It's great to see you again.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: The media coverage of Donald Trump is the media self
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: on trial in this election.
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: Well, I think so.
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: They've lost a lot of credibility andrew over the course
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: of the last six or seven years. They've never forgot
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: a way to deal with Donald Trump, you know, going
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: all the way back to the original Russia investigation in
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, They've been wrong so many times
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: about Donald Trump, and the most recent, I guess would
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: be some of the comments he makes out on the
• 22:07
  Speaker 12: road that get taken out of context.
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: And even today we had one of.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: The left leaning networks having to apologize for misrepresenting something
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: that Trump said. So yeah, I think there is a
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: credibility issue. It's bad for the country. I happen to
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: think that a healthy and credible press is good for democracies,
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: But right now the press is a lot of the
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: press as a credibility problem here.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I wonder whether what's going to happen if the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: media addresses Trump up is the new Hitler? What will
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: happen on the streets should he win? Because of course
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the new Hitler is serious. If it's true, is he
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: in fact the new Hitler raging that he'd like to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: see even his opponents being executed as we're told?
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't have too much concern about Donald Trump
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: being the next Hitler.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I worked with a man.
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: For four years. Listen.
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: If I had seen any thing like that Andrew, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: would have would have quit on the spot. Look, Trump
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: derangement syndrome is a real thing. There are people who
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: just cannot deal with Donald Trump rationally and they end
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: up doing irrational things that This includes his former chief
• 23:14
  Speaker 12: of staff, John Kelly, my predecessor, who came out over
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: the course of the last several days and said that
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: he heard Trump say nice things about Hitler. He considered
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: Trump to be a fascist, a dictator in waiting, et cetera.
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: You know, I worked with John, I worked in the
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: same White House. I called dozens of my former workers
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: and said, did I just miss this? And did did
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: y'all hear this? And no one ever told me?
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: And they hadn't They hadn't heard it either.
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: Interestingly, there are a bunch of anti Trump former administration
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: officials who came out in support of those comments by
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: John Kelly. But what they didn't say was that they
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: heard the same things. They said it sounded about writer.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: They believed John. So look, it's a he said, she
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: said at the very highest level.
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: But the bottom line is, no, I.
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: Don't think he's going not at all concerned about it
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: being hit or voted for him. By the way, if
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: I thought he'd Hitler, it was Hitler, that wouldn't happen.
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: But I think your point is well made, which is
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: somebody's going to believe it. And if they really do
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: believe it, what comes next? Will there be riots if
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: he wins, will be the additional assassination attempts if he wins.
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: We can talk about the chances of violence if he loses,
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: but there's also, you know, a non zero chance of
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: violence if he wins for some of the reasons you've
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: just pointed out.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Look, probably I have some problems with Donald Trump. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: don't like the bragadoccia. I don't like the exaggerations even larger,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: don't like his attitude to Ukraine. I don't like that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But I have to say, do you get I get
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the sense that so many of America's institutions are being
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: corrupted by the attendant, you know, the way they've been
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: trying to get him out of the way. But in
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: my view, in underhand means, I feel that I can't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: allow them to win. I can't. It'd be illegitimate for
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: those tactics, the law, fair, etc. Needy aligned to end
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: up with the result that Trump is defeated. Do you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: since any of that feeling yourself.
• 25:08
  Speaker 12: I'm feeling that with about eighty million people, what you've
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: just described, Andrew.
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: Is the typical Trump voter.
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: The typical Trump voter doesn't like the style. The people
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: who go to the rallies might, but the ordinary, you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: center right republic and leading voter doesn't like a lot
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: of the style. The things, the bregadosha, the things that
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: you've just mentioned. But they also don't like the fact
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: that he's been targeted. Keep in mind, his message has
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: been extraordinarily precise and concise. I know that sounds somewhat
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: oxymoronic from Donald Trump, but down below all of the
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: miscalculations and misdirections and all the getting off of message,
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: this has been his motto. Look at what they're doing
• 25:46
  Speaker 12: to me. I'm rich, and I'm wealthy, and I'm powerful.
• 25:50
  Speaker 12: If they can do this to me, imagine what they
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: can do to you. Vote for me and that won't happen.
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: And there's that has been very, very compelling. So when
• 25:59
  Speaker 12: you say that's how you feel, what I hear is
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: the mainstream Republican voter. And if Donald Trump does win
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: on Tuesday, it's going to be because tens of millions
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: of people look at at the.
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: Exact same way you just articulated.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: There's been so much corruption of the I don't want
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to sound like a tinfoil hat guy, but corruption of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: authority here is, so to speak. There's even that plans
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: by respected poll analysts like Nate Silver. Now he's certainly
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: not a man of the right that polling companies, for instance,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: cannot even be trusted now to be honest about what
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: their own polls are showing. How are you calling the selection?
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: Very close?
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: By the way, Nate as so off of the case
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: and high regard for an eighties a professional, but so
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: often in the case in politics, things aren't lie.
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: They's sort of a half truth.
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: Polling that shows sort of divergence from the mean late
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: in a race is typical here because it's done to
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: try and get out the vote. I listen, and if
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: you want to show a race that shows you beating
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: Donald Trump by twelve points, I can give you that
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: ole by virtue of the questions I ask and the
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: people I ask, And all campaigns do this are many
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: campaigns do this, which is they tailor a poll late
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: in the day to make their person look either good
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: for momentum purposes or bad for fundraising purposes.
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: We do it all the time.
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: I can't tell you the number of texts I've got
• 27:24
  Speaker 12: from Ted Cruz saying, look, I've got polling data said
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: that I'm losing my Senate race in Texas.
• 27:28
  Speaker 11: He's trying to raise money.
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: So when Nate comes out and says, look, there's this divergence,
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: I'm a little concerned about it. Yes, but what he's
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: not telling you is that this is not that far
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: from the ordinary course of business. You asked me a
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: straight question, I'll give you a straight answer. I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: the race is very, very close. I think less than
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: one hundred thousand votes in Pennsylvania, maybe less than fifty
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: thousand votes in Wisconsin, maybe less than fifty thousand votes
• 27:52
  Speaker 12: in the states of North Carolina and Georgia. You know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: in a country of two hundred and fifty million people,
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: I guess we're bigger than that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: Now, that's an extraordinarily tight race.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Mick Malvany, thank you so much for your time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: Andrew'll tek you this week.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Thanks very much.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: If you're a Trump backer, I wish I could have
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: given you a bigger Philip that. I'm afraid it is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: really tight. After the break the twisted priorities of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Abaneze government, it gives students a sixteen billion dollar handout.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It has now run out of money for military satellites
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and submarines. Just an update of my story about this
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: is South Sudan and he's brawl there and the rapper
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: was shot. The victims brothers says the talk of gang
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: links is incorrect and he doesn't think there is going
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to be any risk of retribution, we'll see. Okay. So
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the Abeneze government has enough money, it seems to write
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: off sixteen billion dollars of debt that students have wrapped
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: up studying gender politics, global war warming, whiteness studies a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: law degree. Meanwhile, though it's run out of money for
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: our defense, it's just canceled these seven billion dollar military
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: grades satellite communications system that it promised only eighteen months ago.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: This was meant to be three to five satellites with
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the highest level protection against cyber and electronic warfare attacks
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and therefore dedicated to our military. And to make things worse,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of the six submarines we have just one now is
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fully operational. The rest repairs or upgrades as some are
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: delayed by union industrial action. Would you believe joining me
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: is the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan of
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: The Australian. Greg, good to see you, But I have
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to say all this sounds fascical and dangerous of a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: piece that you've warned of. Well, I don't know for
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: how long what's the story with these canceled satellites.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: Well, Andrew, great to be with you, and indeed, We've
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: had this conversation many times. What an utter shambles, what
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: a colossal mess, what a.
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: Disgrace, what a betrayal.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: The Albanesi government's defense policy is, so we canceled the
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: low earth satellites we were going to launch a year
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: or so ago, mainly it seems because they were Morrison
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: government policy. Now we've canceled the military protected satellites that
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: we were going to integrate all our equipment with. Mind you,
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: we hardly have any equipment to integrate. If they were
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: knocking out this seven billion dollars in order to get
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: seven billion dollars of things that go bang quickly, there
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: might be some sense in it, but in modern warfare,
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: you can't do anything without satellites, and satellites very vulnerable
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: to attack, to cyber attack. You want a lot of satellites,
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: you want redundant capacity, and you want secure satellites, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: at the very least, then your enemy has to invest
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: a hell of a lot of time and effort money
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: into knocking them out of the sky. And instead we're
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: not doing anything. We now have no space assets at all.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Yet we have a space command. The Albanesi government has
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: not even got our defense spending up to two percent
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: of GMP. Last year it came in under two percent.
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: We can't afford the nuclear submarines. We're not making serious
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: preparations for them. The government recently withdrew its environmental applications
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: to change the base facilities in Western Australia. Nothing is
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: happening at pace. All the Bologne it talks about increased
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: defense expenditure. It's all on decades and decades of timelines,
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: so the big sums of money don't come in until
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: the twenty fifth iteration of the Albanese government. But here's
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: another thought, here's a novel thought for you, though, Andrew,
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: where is.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: The opposition in all this?
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: Why aren't they making a noise? You know, I greatly
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: admire Andrew Hasty, but why doesn't the opposition have something
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: to say about this? They're going to have to make
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: their own budget proposal at the election about defense. We
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: cannot the nuclear submarines and a conventional defense force on
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: the current budget. We just can't do it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: So if they.
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: Are remotely leveling with us, they themselves have to offer
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: a big increase in defense expenditure. But I think both
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: sides of politics have just decided they don't lose any votes.
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: So I've never seen Australian defense in more of a shambles,
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: more of a cock up. Nothing is happening. This country
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: is a disgrace, and we are now one hundred percent
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: reliant on the Americans for our security. So people better hope,
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: whether it's Taris or Trump, that they're very nice to them.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I find it absolutely astonishing, Greg that this island continent,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: this vast island continent, that is so dependent on seaborn
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: trade just for our petrol, even has just one submarine
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: fit for duty one. I mean, it's just insane. But
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the American election there. Why is it staky
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the world. I mean, we've just
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: been consumed with talks, you know, talk about Trump being
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: rude or is he a hitler and this and Kamala Harris.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Being an airhead.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I have seen very little talk, serious talk about what's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: at stake in the selection for the rest of the world.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: Well, Andrew, I don't like either of them. I wrote
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: it the weekend. It's not a choice of the lesser
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: of two evils. It's a presentation of the evil of
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: two lessons, and neither of them compares to a Ronald
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: Reagan or a Jack Kennedy or any of the presidents.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: That we revere.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: But I think.
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: Trump would be better for Australia. I don't like Trump.
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: I share everything you were earlier saying about Trump. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: couldn't agree with you more. But he will have more
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: deterrent credibility than Harris will have. Having said that America
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: will survive Underrea the president. America is a very strong economy,
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: a very strong country, very strong military, and it will
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: survive under either president. Trump isn't Hitler and Harris isn't
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: a communist. She's a very unimpressive left liberal Californian lefty.
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: He is a very weird and foul mouthed, strong willed
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: populist who does scare America's enemies, and that's good for Australia.
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: That is a big plus for Australia. We can judge
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: Trump not so much on what he says, which is
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: all over the shop, but what he did last time.
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: He ran a pretty good presidency. I thought he was
• 34:33
  Speaker 9: disgraceful on January sixth, utterly disgraceful, but the record of
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: his presidency was quite good. He spent more on defense
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: than the Democrats would have done. The Abraham Accords were magnificent.
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: He imposed more sanctions on Russia than any other president
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: had ever done. He completely revolutionized the debate and the
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: policy on China, and he was very good for Australia
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: and the economy was good. So that's no guarantee you'll
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: be as good as that next time. But you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: and we shouldn't have to put up with all of
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: his disgraceful lies and abuse and foul language and everything
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: in order to get that. But as between the two
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: of them, you know, Trump's tariffs would be destructive if
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: he imposed them all, but almost certainly he'll do some
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: kind of compromise.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: That's what he always does.
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: As between the two of them, I think Australia and
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: the world would be better off with a Trump presidency
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: than with the Harris presidency. Harris will be Biden only weaker.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when you say better off of the world,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I think you mean the free world. I think we've
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: got to start talking in terms like that now. There
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: really is a new World war, cold war, hot war,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and the authoritarian regimes
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: are on the rays for the free world. He is
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: best screecher and always greatch to talk to you. Thank
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you so much. After the break, the heat is on.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd, as a member of the Trump Plan, says
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: he should quit our ambassador to Washington if Donald Trump wins.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Now some breaking news about a horse I've never heard
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: of in a race that I don't really care about
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: much anymore. I shouldn't say that mode wife is granddaughter
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: of one of the great bookies. Now the Baskin has
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: been scratched from the Melbourne Cup due to heart issues.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: That's down now. The race is now down to twenty
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: three horses, which I think is more than enough. It
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: seems that the very left wing Albanese government is now
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: scrambling to get close to people in the camp of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the conservative Donald Trump ahead of the election. That reports,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: for instance that Foreign Minster Pennywolan, Defense Minister of Richard
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Miles have both met Mike Pompeo's President Trump's very good
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: secretary of State. But what about Kevin Rudd, Now, former
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister is, as you know, the ambassador to Washington
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: these days, and before he took that job he vilified Trump,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: saying it was the most destructive president in history, had
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: dragged democracy through the mud news to justify violence and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was just crazy. I think the general consensus amongst anyone
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: concerned with the public policy process, domestic or international, thinks
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: he's nuts. Well, Donald Trump's daughter in law, Lara Trump,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: she's now the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, told
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: scone news is Aaron Moulin that she wasn't impressed.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Obviously, that's a little bit tough to take, and maybe
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: we want to choose somebody else.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: But Albanizer, who has personally picked Rudd as ambassador, wasn't
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: budgeting today.
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: In the event of a Trump victory, It's been suggested
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: that Australia might have to move on mister Rudd from
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: his post in Washington. Is that right?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Australia decides who our ambassador is, and mister Ruddy is
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: doing a terrific job.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Joining me from Washington, DC is scone News US correspondent
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and Alisa Nielsen, Alice Nielsen, what a pleasure to see
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you again. How much trouble is Kevin right in?
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Well, Look when people say Kevin Rud's been doing a
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: good job, I would say, from what I've seen, that's true.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: He's done a very good job on Capitol Hill, reaching
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: out to people on both sides of the aisle, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: that's really important when we're talking about so much that
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: happens with Orcus. He is very much in with that
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: diplomatic set in DC. They respect the fact he's a
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: former prime minister and he has his books, but realistically,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: he has been on the record publicly saying very disparaging
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: things about Donald Trump. And no matter what way you
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: cut it, it is a liability that will come up
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: in our relationship with the United States. And so if
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Anthony Obinezy wants to say we pick our ambassadors, that's
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: how we are going to do things, and they have
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: to deal with it, that's fine, but that's just a
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: cost we will have to bear and there's no getting
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: around that. And you can't just wish that to not
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: be true, because the people around Donald Trump are going
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: to be googling the former ambassador that we having these
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: conversations and it will come up. And this has come
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: up before. Is the other thing to remember, the British
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: ambassador to the US had to step aside and go
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: back to the United Kingdom be withdrawn because he said
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: disparaging things about Donald Trump in a private, private diplomatic
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: communicate that was leaked, and that was enough to essentially
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: for Donald Trump to say, look, I'm not going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: deal with this guy, and I don't know why we
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: would expect anything of the US that we wouldn't reciprocate.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Imagine if the US ambassador was in Australia after having
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: said disparaging things about our leader, we'd be angry too,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: and it would come up. And we don't need these
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: things coming up when we're having these conversations. And so
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: this is what I think is the kind of longer
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: term strategy here. But by the same token, we don't know.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: If Donald Trump's going to went on Tuesday, we could
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: be facing a Kamala Harris presidency, and then there's really
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: probably no difference in having Kevin Rudd in there. If anything,
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: it would probably help the cause because they like saying
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: disparaging things about Donald Trump too.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Worried about what will happen next whoever wins right, because
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: we've seen from the left a real propensity and ability
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to create violence that were Antifa riots against Donald Trump
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: last time he won. There's the Black Lives Matter that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: trash American cities as well, But on the right. There's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: been so many people absolutely convinced that Donald Trump is
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: going to win and the only thing that will stop
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: him winning is electoral fraud. So either way, I think
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it's really tense. Now there are claims that Trump is
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: preparing the ground for arguing again that if he loses,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: he was cheated by voter fraud. Here is the man
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: himself today.
• 40:36
  Speaker 10: They are fighting so hard to steal this damn thing.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: But you ought to damn well, go to paper ballots.
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: You ought to go to voter ID.
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: And you ought to have the election over by nine o'clock,
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: I'm hearing now they're going to take weeks. It's all corrupt.
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: She's corrupt.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: She's a corrupt person.
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: Our country is a crooked country. Okay, it's a crooked country,
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: and we're going to make it straight. We're going to
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: make it's straight. And it's not an easy thing to do.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: They want to put you in jail because you want
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: to make it straight.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: Think of it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: Think of it. They cheate in elections.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And some what evidence has there been of any fraud
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: or voter suppression this time?
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Well, look, there has been issues with voting, whether it's
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: intentional or not. Is a different question. And so what
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: I want to really emphasize with this is in America,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: every state has its own laws around elections, and it's
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: administered at county levels, so it's always chaotic. There are
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: always issues that does not equate to fraud, and there
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: are no substantiated cases of fraud from twenty twenty. There
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: are people a fraction of the population here that still
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: thinks that's the case, but that's a belief, not a fact.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: What we're talking about with this election is there has
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: been some issues already. We've seen it where election officials
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: have tried to kick people out of line because their
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: lines are too long with early voting, and then they
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: have to step back because it turns out the rule
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: is that you have to let people stay in line
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: up until five pm of the day, and if they're
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: in that line, you have to let them cast the
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: early ballot. That's exactly what happened in Bucks County in Pennsylvania.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: The Trump campaign was successful in that case where they
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: said that voters were being disenfranchised because they were in
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: line early afternoon and they were told we're not going
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: to be able to process you by five pm, so
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: you have to leave that is not the law. They
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: were right just so on that front. And so this
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: is the issue with getting too hysterical. Either way, there
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: are going to be issues. These do have to be
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: assessed by lawyers, and sometimes they will find that there
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: was an issue that they can fix. And I mean,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: we saw a CNN reporting about ballots that have been
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: dropped off a van in Miami out of the because
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: the guy hadn't locked the door properly and some poor
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: bloke on his way to work two in the morning
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: picked them up and took them into the police station.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Mistakes happened, and so this is something that it's not
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: a crazy thing to watch it. It's not a crazy
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: thing to question it. But we do need to go
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: back to facts and we need to have verified complaints
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: if they're to be upheld, and everyone's ready for it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: This time is the big difference, I would say from
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: last time. Even the Republican Party, they've trained poor watchers
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: across the country. They have their team of lawyers ready
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: to go on this. They're not on the back foot
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: about it. And everyone knows that early voting is a
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: thing now and it wasn't such a big thing last time.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: People are doing it. As for violence in DC, they're
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: ready for it. They have quietly got National Guard on standby,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: They've got fences up around ostensibly for January twenty inauguration.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: But there is a sense that no one wants to
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: be caught on the back foot like they were last time.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: And frankly, I'm not concerned as a personal level, someone
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: who lives here that there's going to be big violence.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not feeling it, but things could change if something
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: drastic happened. I'm not saying it's not going to happen,
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: but it doesn't have the same kind of sense as
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Well, what the pressure cooker election. This has been the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: unbelievable two assassination attempt, all these allegations, it's been the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: most incredible election I've ever seen in my lifetime. Unle
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: We'll afford to hearing from you on about the result
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: lady this week. Thank you so much in d for
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: your time.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Thanks Andrew.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: After they break the Conservative leader who could be the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: new I hope Margaret Thatcher, the Black Thatcher. Well, the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: British Conservative Party has just selected a new leader, Kemy Badenoch.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Now this comes at a very good time for her,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: because the Labor government has just gone splat in the Poles,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: squandered all its lead in just four months, and now
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the Conservatives are just ahead with this new leader. And
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: she says the most obvious thing about her, being black
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and a woman, the first black and first black woman
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to be leader leader of the Conservatives, is by far
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the least interesting thing about it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: She is, I think that's the best thing will be
• 44:59
  Speaker 13: when we getule point where the color of your skin
• 45:02
  Speaker 13: is no more remarkable than the color of your eyes
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: or the color of your hair.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Joining me is writer broadcast commentator from London, esther great
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to see you. Look my hat goes ping when I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: see her. I think I could see her as someone
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: who could really challenge the cultural decline in the West.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: She speaks so well on identity politics. Do you have
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: much hope in her?
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: What?
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: It's definitely on the positive side. Look, she has a
• 45:31
  Speaker 14: few things working against her in the sense that she
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: hasn't been in politics for very long. I mean she
• 45:35
  Speaker 14: only first got elected as an MP in twenty seventeen.
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: She doesn't have as much cabinet experience than say, lets
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: the Michael go. But she's very refreshing and as you said,
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: you know her very frank stance on things like identity politics.
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: And also she's a bit of an enigma. You know,
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: no one will ever fight for the disenfranchised men of
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: black people in the UK more than the left. And
• 45:54
  Speaker 14: yet somehow they really want to put her on an
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: ideological straight jacket because for being a black person that
• 45:59
  Speaker 14: doesn't find racist and behind every tree is quite a
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: novel thing and it really irks many on the left.
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: I mean you've seen Labor and p down Butler calling
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: her the black face of white supremacy, which is strange.
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: I mean, these people cannot fathom that this is someone
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: who has more views or more substance to her than
• 46:16
  Speaker 14: just the color of her skin or her perceived oppression.
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: But you know, the overarching point is faith in the
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: two main parties, the Labor Party and the Tory Party
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: has just sunk like a lead balloon, and Reform are
• 46:27
  Speaker 14: really pushing her head in the poll. So the question
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: is will she be able to stay well, perform, do
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: a coalition with them actually inspire some hope and faith
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: back into politics. It's safe to say that people are
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: not going to forget the things that the Labored Party
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: has done in just four months. I can't imagine it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: going to get better. But if anyone can turn this around,
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: I think Kemys best poins to do it, and the
• 46:44
  Speaker 14: fact that she really doesn't care. I mean, she's had
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: a few gaps in the media, but I think people
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: are happier with the fact that she's just willing to
• 46:51
  Speaker 14: be honest and willing to risk not always saying the
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: most politically correct thing then trying to be polished and
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: trying to run away from hate mobs on Twitter at
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: the expense of of the country.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Look, as a black woman yourself, you see her talking
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: this way about identity politics, how do you.
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: Respond, Well, it's pretty much I'm kind of in the
• 47:14
  Speaker 14: same sort of line of thinking. I mean, there is
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: no really permutation of reality where someone who was raised
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: by conservative Nigerian parents in a two parent Christian home
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: would turn out to be a blue head feminist that
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: finds racism behind every tree.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: And it's the same for me.
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: I grew up in a two parent conservative home from
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: Ghana and we have very similar values in that way.
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: And there's a sizeable chunk of the black community in
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: the UK that actually thinks this way. The problem is
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: the one that is presented in the media would have
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: you think that they're all just you know, shouting for
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: reparations and about their oppression, and all they care about
• 47:44
  Speaker 14: is you know, police brutality, which is virtually non existent
• 47:47
  Speaker 14: in this country. So you know, she does actually represent
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: a lot of black people in the country. It's just
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: an inconvenient reality for people that would present a different picture.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: That's what I love is there is the culture jamming here,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the scrambling of the narrative. I love it, and I
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: hope she succeeds. I don't know much about it, but
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I hope she succeeds. Mister crack, I'm sorry, we've got
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: so little time. American election. More time next week. See
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you later. That's it for me. Sherry mark'son up next.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Good Night,