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- 0:00Welcome back to Down Parenting, and this is day seven of our 12
- 0:03Days of Christmas. If today is quieter, or if you
- 0:06finally found a moment to breathe, this episode meets you
- 0:09there. Parenting across languages and
- 0:11cultures can carry a lot of invisible pressure, especially
- 0:14during moments when family identity and expectations
- 0:17collide. Day 7 is about easing that
- 0:20pressure. Many multilingual families carry
- 0:23quiet pressure to do. It right to.
- 0:25Do it enough to not mess it up. In this episode, Mimi from
- 0:29Growing Up Multilingual helps parents slow down, reconnect
- 0:33with their why? And release the guilt.
- 0:35That often surrounds language decisions.
- 0:42Welcome back to Dan Parenting. I'm Eva, and I'm so glad you
- 0:44joined us again today. We're continuing our monthly
- 0:47multilingual parenting series with Mimi from Growing Up
- 0:50Multilingual, and we're so lucky to have her here with us each
- 0:53month. In this episode, we're digging
- 0:55into something that isn't really talked about enough.
- 0:57The stress behind raising multilingual children, the
- 1:00pressure to get it right and the guilt of not doing enough or the
- 1:04fear of messing it up. It's all really heavy and it's
- 1:07all very real. This isn't about adding more to
- 1:09your To Do List. It's actually about tuning in,
- 1:12getting clear, and finding your peace in your journey.
- 1:14We're here to help you release that pressure, reframe your
- 1:17thinking, and make multilingual parenting feel more connected
- 1:20and more sustainable, not just for your child, but for you too.
- 1:23So whether you're walking faulty laundry or just taking 5 minutes
- 1:27for yourself, stick around. You're doing more than you
- 1:29think, and today's conversation might just help you see that.
- 1:32Hi, Mimi. Hi, thank.
- 1:35You for having me again? Well, great to have you back for
- 1:37the second episode. So today we're going to tackle
- 1:40something many parents feel but often don't talk about, which is
- 1:43the stress and the pressure that comes with raising multilingual
- 1:46children. So why do you think that this
- 1:48gets overlooked so often? I think it gets overlooked
- 1:51because multilingual parenting is often framed as either a huge
- 1:56gift or perhaps a huge challenge, but rarely people
- 2:01look at it from the perspective of a very emotional journey and
- 2:06there is always this quiet pressure to get it right.
- 2:10And not very many people talk about it in my experience.
- 2:13Like what if we mess up? Maybe we will completely ruin
- 2:17our child's future connection to culture, identity will ruin
- 2:21their future opportunities. Some parents really feel like
- 2:26they're on some step of this journey and maybe they'll learn
- 2:30some new facts about some new research.
- 2:32And then they think, Oh my goodness, I completely messed it
- 2:35up so far and I've wasted so much time.
- 2:38And in that stress, we rarely talk about how heavy it can feel
- 2:43in the day-to-day. We kind of talk about all this
- 2:46is what we're going to do, this is how we're going to approach
- 2:48it. Which strategy am I using?
- 2:50Is it one parent, one language most of the time?
- 2:53Is it minority language at home? But nobody talks about the
- 2:56actual pressure and stress that people feel on a day-to-day
- 3:01basis. I know all about it, you know
- 3:04all about it. We've talked about this a lot
- 3:06and it's often very much hidden on the routines, strategies and
- 3:11best intentions because again, we all do it because we want the
- 3:16best for our children. That's for sure.
- 3:18Let's start with the emotional side.
- 3:20What are the more common stresses you see with
- 3:22multilingual parents who they might not realize that it's
- 3:26actually weighing them down? You know, they're so many
- 3:29stresses. So many.
- 3:31The biggest one, feeling like you're never doing enough.
- 3:35Maybe you feel like you're doing too much.
- 3:37There is a huge amount of guilt behind this.
- 3:40Am I pushing my child too much? Am I not pushing them enough?
- 3:43Then again, comparing your child's progress to other kids,
- 3:46how come we have the same constellation?
- 3:49How come my friend's son or daughter are much farther ahead?
- 3:54How come my child is not there? How about maybe I missed the
- 3:57window already? Maybe I completely messed up
- 4:00something. I just recently talked to
- 4:02somebody and it was a very, very emotional discussion because
- 4:07they felt that they missed the window.
- 4:09And it's never too late. Of course, if you have the
- 4:12opportunity to provide exposure, always do it.
- 4:16But you can never miss a window. You just have to reframe how you
- 4:19approach it. Or if you are passing on a
- 4:22language that is not your native language, if you've decided for
- 4:25this path, maybe you worry that you're not fluent enough, that
- 4:29you don't sound native enough and native is in quotation marks
- 4:33because this is a whole different topic that I'm not
- 4:36going to get into right now. But and a huge fear that perhaps
- 4:40your child won't be accepted because they want sound like
- 4:43their peers when you go to when you go visit your home country
- 4:47and they don't quiet. Perhaps they want sound quiet as
- 4:50their peers where you live and in the language that they're
- 4:53being schooled in. And these are, these are all
- 4:55real stressors that often sit very quietly under everything we
- 5:00do and very often guide us in a certain way, sometimes in the
- 5:05wrong way, because then often we tend to push too much.
- 5:09And all these stressors feel really personal because we feel
- 5:13like we're failing, we're failing, but we're also failing
- 5:17our children. And this is, this is all very,
- 5:19very personal. And language is very personal,
- 5:22especially the home language that we're passing on or we are
- 5:25really wanting to pass on and trying because again, it's
- 5:29identity, it's culture, it's belonging.
- 5:31And it's, it's the fear that our child will not belong.
- 5:35So when we feel like we're not doing enough, it's very easy to
- 5:38slip down the road where we feel like we are, not like we're
- 5:42failing. It's something that is really
- 5:44fundamental. And then we tend to zoom in too
- 5:47far on details. So we somehow we sometimes
- 5:52forget about the big picture. We sometimes forget about what's
- 5:55really going on, the fact that we're not failing, but we're
- 5:59just caring a lot and we're trying to achieve a lot.
- 6:03If you have a family that might come to you and feel like they
- 6:06don't, they're not doing enough or they're not, they haven't
- 6:09done it right, what do you say to someone who comes to you with
- 6:11that kind of. A fear.
- 6:12I think the first thing I would say to them is that they're not
- 6:15alone, that they don't have to do it alone.
- 6:19And this is one of the fundamental fears that majority
- 6:23of parents raising a child with multiple languages face.
- 6:26Because when it's a shared fear, then it's a smaller fear.
- 6:30And I would want them to know it's that it's not.
- 6:34It's not about adding more to your To Do List.
- 6:36It's about tuning in and getting clear about what you're aiming
- 6:42for and what you need to do to get there rather than trying to
- 6:47cover everything possible and check mark everything that you
- 6:52feel like you need to accomplish.
- 6:54Because feeling like I need to accomplish certain things and
- 6:57actually the things that I need to accomplish very often are two
- 7:01completely different things. So what feels like not enough is
- 7:05often a signal that you need to let go, take a step back, and
- 7:10try to reconnect what matters to you, what your goals are, what
- 7:14matters to your child, what matters to you as a family.
- 7:17Because it's not about doing more, it's about doing more
- 7:22meaningful things, things that are more meaningful.
- 7:26I need to rephrase this. Speaking about meaningful and
- 7:30the intentionality in learning and in the language of parenting
- 7:34as well, can you explain to the listeners and also myself why
- 7:37does both matter? There is the concept of
- 7:40mindfulness and intentionality, and mindfulness sounds probably
- 7:46very like a pop term. And it's not maybe less than
- 7:49something you can hold on to and do something with.
- 7:53But in the context of raising a child with multiple languages,
- 7:57it can be super, super useful. Because what mindfulness is in
- 8:02its core is being in the moment. It's noticing what your child
- 8:06responds to, what makes them light up, and really doing it
- 8:10with curiosity and not with judgment.
- 8:14Really noticing what is working, what your child likes and enjoys
- 8:18choice. Then intentionality comes into
- 8:21play because then it's what you actually do with all those
- 8:25observations that you've made. And intentionality is the
- 8:29deliberate action that you take the action on purpose based on
- 8:34what you've observed. So together they give you
- 8:37clarity. And clarity is very, very
- 8:40powerful when you focus on your language, goals and when you
- 8:43plan your different activities. So for example, I often talk
- 8:48about, and I mentioned the meaningful bit before, it's very
- 8:52important when you do certain things, when you read books or
- 8:56play different games with your children to focus on what's
- 8:59meaningful for them and not what you think it's meaningful.
- 9:02And I'm absolutely guilty of this when it comes to books
- 9:05because I often have ideas of what would be good, what is a
- 9:09cool book, and my children don't always think the same way.
- 9:12So I've been really trying to pause and observe and it's
- 9:16really, really difficult because you know, life is hectic and
- 9:21when you need to pause and take a break and be more observant,
- 9:25it can be very difficult. So it's it's always a work in
- 9:28progress, but you need to pause and see where they where there
- 9:33is resistance, where they, for example, in my case, if you're
- 9:38offering a book and they're not interested in it and just pause
- 9:43and see what is going wrong, why they're not interested.
- 9:46Ask them if you can have a conversation.
- 9:49Just see what they like and then plan the intentionality bit.
- 9:54Plan on what you can do next based on what you've observed.
- 9:58So you. Spoke there about work in
- 9:59progress are some of the expectations or shoulds that
- 10:02parents can let go of right now, and ones that just cause more
- 10:06stress than support. One of the biggest things that I
- 10:10come across is this fantasy of a balanced, multilingual child.
- 10:16The fantasy that and I say fantasy and not even a myth
- 10:19because it's my multilingual child is not a multiple
- 10:24monolingual children in one and you cannot base your
- 10:29expectations for their language development based on monolingual
- 10:33children. So if my one of my home
- 10:35languages is Bulgarian, I cannot expect my children to speak and
- 10:40express themselves in the same way as children their age in
- 10:43Bulgaria. This is not how multilingualism
- 10:46works. Even as adults, we don't use all
- 10:50all our languages equally. That's why I digress a little
- 10:54bit. But This is why it's really
- 10:55difficult when we ask children to translate and say, oh,
- 10:59translate this, translate this and they don't know the words
- 11:01sometimes because a multilingual child is not multiple
- 11:05monolinguals in one another. One is the the myth of
- 11:09perfection. This is just so out there, I
- 11:12would say because there is no first of all there, there's no
- 11:15perfect way to raise a multilingual child because
- 11:18everybody does it in their own unique way based on their unique
- 11:23needs and wants, their unique family constellation, even if it
- 11:28looks the same on paper. And don't expect any perfect
- 11:32levels of language because I hear very often parents saying
- 11:35Oh my child speaks 3 languages and they're all perfect in all
- 11:39three languages. And there is no such thing as
- 11:43perfect. We all learn language according
- 11:45to context, in different context and for different purposes.
- 11:49And this is how our language develops depending on how we
- 11:53need it, what we need them for and where we use them.
- 11:56Another thing, I would like them to let go of our rigid routines
- 11:59that don't fit their real life. As we've said in the previous
- 12:03episode, everything needs to flow seamlessly.
- 12:07Everything needs to be meaningful and it needs to be a
- 12:10part of your child's life. It doesn't.
- 12:12It shouldn't feel like it's an add on because otherwise it
- 12:15feels like a chore and you don't want to get into this area of it
- 12:20feeling like a chore. Speaking of which, for the
- 12:23parents who are actually feeling that way, so you know, they
- 12:26could be burnt dead or unsure or even just overwhelmed like many
- 12:29of us are, what are a few small things that we can do this week
- 12:33to ease the load and reconnect with our why we're going down
- 12:36this path? I'm going to offer some very,
- 12:39very simple things, and don't distant before you try them out.
- 12:44Build one small ritual, you can call it whatever you want.
- 12:48Just one small thing that you do together with your child.
- 12:52Could it be coloring? Could it be talking during
- 12:55meals? Could have been a game of sorry.
- 12:58Whatever feels natural to you, whatever comes natural for your
- 13:02relationship with your child. Just try 1 little thing and
- 13:06build it consistently. When you start feeling that
- 13:09there is stress building, notice it, but don't judge.
- 13:13Don't judge yourself. Don't judge your child because
- 13:16they're not doing it fast enough because they forgot a bunch of
- 13:19words that they knew last week or they don't say things that in
- 13:23your mind they're supposed to be saying.
- 13:25Just take it as it comes and notice what is happening.
- 13:29When you feel like you're not doing enough, try to tell
- 13:32yourself, I don't feel quite sure today, I'm too tired.
- 13:35There's so much going on and give yourself some grace because
- 13:40language development has ebbs and flows and you cannot expect
- 13:45for your child to perform the same way all the time.
- 13:48But you cannot expect for yourself to perform the same way
- 13:52and be able to provide the same amount of input and exposure all
- 13:57the time. Some days, providing very high
- 14:00quality exposure and engaging is going to be very easy.
- 14:04Other days, not so much. Give yourself some grace and
- 14:08when you're unsure, when you're stressed, reconnect with your
- 14:11why. Remind yourself what matters.
- 14:14Your child matters. Your connection with your child
- 14:17matters. The purpose why I want to pass
- 14:20this language. What does this language mean to
- 14:22me? Why am I doing this?
- 14:24For the wow factor or to actually for my child to be able
- 14:28to talk to grandparents or to be able to one day potentially go
- 14:33to university in this language. Whatever your why is there are
- 14:37many different why's and one why is not better than the other.
- 14:42As long as it's it's your purpose, it's good enough for
- 14:46your circumstance and talking about practical strategies or I
- 14:50talked about my newfound hobby of coloring or newly discovered
- 14:55again and it's been really interesting.
- 14:57I noticed that when my children are engaging with an activity
- 15:01that is really, really interesting to them, they talk
- 15:04more. So whatever it is, whatever
- 15:07works for your child, if it's building or drawing or playing
- 15:10with something, because a child's brain relaxes into the
- 15:14task that they're really enjoying and they become more
- 15:17focused on doing. They don't focus on saying the
- 15:21right word, finding the exact right way to express themselves,
- 15:26trying to think about who am I going to make a mistake now or
- 15:29not feeling self-conscious. They don't think about any of
- 15:32this and just language flows more freely, more naturally and
- 15:37they feel more confident because they don't think about the
- 15:39quality of the language they produce.
- 15:41And this is exactly what you want.
- 15:43You want them to keep talking. You want them to continue
- 15:47producing. And during such activities,
- 15:50there's so much less pressure and they don't monitor
- 15:54themselves, right? They're just focused on
- 15:56expressing. So find, I'm going back to the
- 15:59one small ritual. Find one of those small things
- 16:02that work for you and for your family and do it because this is
- 16:06gold. Because this is 1 fantastic way
- 16:09for them to build fluency and to build confidence in producing
- 16:13the language in talking. You mentioned there about ebbs
- 16:16and flows. I know you've said that language
- 16:19plants are living documents. Can you explain what you mean by
- 16:22that and how being honest about your capacity, you know, as
- 16:25parents, being overburdened or stressed is actually a strength
- 16:28in this journey? Yes.
- 16:30A lot of people assume that a language plan is set in stone
- 16:33and once you kind of set whatever you want to achieve and
- 16:37then that's it. But this is actually not true.
- 16:40A language plan is really a living Organism, if I can say
- 16:44this, and they should be, because they evolve with your
- 16:47life. And it's a very paradoxical
- 16:49thing that I always say to parents.
- 16:51But they need to be consistent while being flexible.
- 16:55Because what worked six months ago might not work anymore.
- 16:59Your child might have discovered a completely new set of
- 17:02interests, and the old interests are not valid anymore.
- 17:06Maybe you're moving to a different country, maybe you're
- 17:09moving to a different school. That's not fairly.
- 17:12This is actually growth because change, which is the only thing
- 17:16that is sure nothing is going to stay the way it is.
- 17:19So by being able to adapt to the changing circumstances, you're
- 17:23actually taking stress off your shoulders by being open and
- 17:27flexible. And this is this is growth.
- 17:29Growth is not sticking to your whatever ideas and paths to
- 17:33achieving those ideas three years ago.
- 17:36Growth is being able to adapt. And this is what I mentioned in
- 17:39the previous episode about meeting as a family once or
- 17:43twice a year because this it's really helpful for the growth
- 17:47aspect, for the flexibility aspect.
- 17:49This really helps with adapting the plan to the ever changing
- 17:53needs of the family. And when you say, you know, like
- 17:56when you have a really tough month, when there is lots of
- 17:58going on, let's say a lot of business trips or a lot of sick
- 18:02days, just say this month we're dialing back this month.
- 18:05We're not going to push ourselves so much.
- 18:07You know, if you have the plan to do certain things, but you
- 18:11can't do them and you rather just sit together and watch a
- 18:14movie or play a game and it's you don't have to think about
- 18:18then just do it. Because this doesn't mean that
- 18:20you're giving up. It means that you're being
- 18:23honest and you're acknowledging what's happening at the moment
- 18:26and you're also modeling resilience for your child.
- 18:30It's also a lesson that you can give them and talk to them and
- 18:33say, well, we wanted to read today, but you know, like
- 18:37everybody's been sick and the kids don't feel like doing it
- 18:40and pushing them. It's not going to bring
- 18:42anything. So talk to them about this.
- 18:44This is something that I cannot under score enough.
- 18:48Talk to your child about everything that's happening.
- 18:51If you decide to change your routine, if you decide to change
- 18:54something, talk to them because this is, this is how you're
- 18:57teaching them resilience too, and teaching them how to adapt
- 19:00and giving them a reason and they can work with this.
- 19:04I was going to ask, what's one final thought you want to have
- 19:06the listeners take away from today's episode?
- 19:08But it kind of feels like it's that to me.
- 19:10Honest, the resilient side of things and the honesty.
- 19:13And equally, I feel like what you just said is also about
- 19:15compassionate to yourself and forgiving to yourself that you
- 19:18can't do everything. But do you have anything else
- 19:20you'd like to add? Just I cannot reiterate the
- 19:23aspect of perfection that you don't need to be perfect, that
- 19:28doing small steps doesn't mean you're not doing enough.
- 19:32When you're not replicating what they're doing at school, for
- 19:35example, when you do reading and writing at home, it doesn't mean
- 19:38that you're not doing enough. Everything you do at home from a
- 19:42place of connection and a place of intentionality is a huge
- 19:46contribution to the language development of your child.
- 19:50And you need presence, presence to be able to see how your
- 19:54child's evolving. And I always say to be able to
- 19:57utilize how they change and to utilize their interests for the
- 20:02linguistic purposes. It sounds bad, but it's not.
- 20:05It's very practical and it's really helpful for their
- 20:08language development. So being present, being mindful
- 20:12and being intentional about your choices, it's really the way to
- 20:16go. Well, thank you, Mimi.
- 20:18And that brings us to the end of today's episode.
- 20:20So thank you so much for coming back and joining us on this
- 20:23little series we're doing. We hope this conversation gave
- 20:26you a moment to pause, breathe, and maybe even help yourself
- 20:29feel a little less alone on the ups and downs of multilingual
- 20:32parenting. If there's one thing to take
- 20:34away from today, it's this. You don't have to do more.
- 20:37You just need to connect with what matters most to you and
- 20:39your family because this journey, well, it's not actually
- 20:42about perfection. It's about presence, purpose,
- 20:45and staying kind to yourself along the way.
- 20:47If you found this episode helpful, please share it with a
- 20:49friend or a parent who might need it too.
- 20:51And don't forget to like, subscribe and hit the
- 20:52notification button. Mimi will be joining us every
- 20:55month with more honest, insightful conversations on on
- 20:58rising multilingual children. And by the way, the research and
- 21:01resources we've mentioned are all LinkedIn for you in the show
- 21:04notes, so make sure you go and check them out.
- 21:05Until next time, keep going, keep growing, and be junk with
- 21:08yourself. You're doing more than you
- 21:10think.