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Episode 130: A Star Wars Indiana Jones Crossover Episode · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there, control your insolence and concentrate.
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It's time for most things. Kenobi.
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Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of
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Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all
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things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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And I'm your host Leanne. And this week we're doing a bit
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of a crossover. We are going to talk about all
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the times Indiana Jones appears in Star Wars and Star Wars
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appears in Indiana Jones. I can't believe the list now.
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I had to look up a list. I did too.
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I I don't. I knew like two things off the
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top of my head. This list is online.
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We're not coming up with any of this on our own, at least other
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than the two that we can we can name.
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But. Yeah.
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It's fun. It's super fun.
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Everyone is aware that there are always some kind of rumor of a
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crossover or oh, this was acknowledged in the even in The
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Clone Wars, they do like little nods too.
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And I think it's cute because Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones,
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the the music. Who's the guy?
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Oh, John Williams, Yeah. John Williams.
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Honestly, this isn't on this list.
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But every now and then, whenever I watch Indiana Jones, there is
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like a little thing the music does that always sounds like
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Leia's theme. Oh God, that theme makes me cry
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every time me. Too, and I've really tuned into
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it. So when it starts to go, I
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always expect it to be Leia's theme.
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And then it's it's not 'cause it's Indiana Jones.
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But I kind of wonder if John Williams did that on purpose.
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But who knows? Who knows, Maybe he just dreams
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in his own music and it's all mixed up in his head.
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So this list, I think is what, 20 things?
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And we got it off Screen Rant. So like you said, we can't take
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credit for it. But if you don't want to read
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the full article, we will summarize it for you here.
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That's it. And I am actually surprised by
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some of these that I have seen all of the Indiana Jones except
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for like the latest latest one. I have seen all of them except
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the 2nd to last one, the one that had Cate Blanchett.
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I didn't ever saw that one, but I did see the most recent one.
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Did you like it? Yes and no.
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Your face, Your face. I didn't see it, so I can't even
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comment. I liked it because it was much
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more like the Indiana Jones we know, but it was also just kind
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of like one car chase after another, and it was very long.
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So they could have probably removed a car chase and I would
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have stayed interested a little longer.
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But in general, it had that lovely Indiana Jones charm to
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it. Yeah, yeah.
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And they are charming. But I don't remember a lot of
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these. I can't believe I haven't
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noticed some of these. Well, and I I love that they do
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this on purpose. It's all very purposeful.
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It makes sense to because George Lucas and Spielberg were on
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vacation, I believe, in Hawaii together when they came up with
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the idea of Indiana Jones. And of course, Star Wars was the
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other thing going on. Spielberg did do Jurassic Park.
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Oh yeah. I wanted to make sure, Yeah,
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Which is filmed in Hawaii on multiple locations, which some
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of them going to and I can't wait, it'll be good, Yeah.
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I've honestly there's probably more crossover stuff with
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Jurassic Park too. I feel like because there was
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some article I think I I scrolled over here that
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mentioned Jurassic Park as well so.
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Well, just imagine the amount of brain and creativity power in a
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room of Spielberg and Lucas. Oh my.
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God, I have to dive for cover. One is wearing Costco sneakers,
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the other a pressed button down. Yeah, they both have aviator
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sunglasses and giant poofy hair, so at least back in the 70s.
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Fucking love it anyway. We hail thee, both of them.
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And I'm I'm here for all of these crossovers.
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So if you recognize any of these as we're going through, shout
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out. You're like, Oh yeah, I know
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that one. And then let us know 'cause
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that'll be our that'll be our listener comment.
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Yeah, 'cause if we miss any. Also, if there's some that we
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don't know of that aren't on this list, you'll have to tell
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us those too. All right.
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Do you want to kick it off? I'll kick it off.
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The first one is the and I did not know this one.
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Me either. The opening scene of Raiders of
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the Lost Ark. Indiana Jones is fleeing in the
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airplane. It's a little float plane on the
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back, it says. OB Dash CPO.
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A nod to both OB One and C3PO. Now come on.
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I've seen this movie how many times never ever noticed it.
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Exactly how is it right there and I'm not seeing the obvious
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like. Wow, I love that scene because
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that's the I Hate Snakes scene and I relate to that 100.
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Percent Oh my God, I completely, 100% relate to this.
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I can't with snakes. I honestly.
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I can't either. So if Indiana Jones can't, then
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it's OK that we can't. I mean, it's probably why we
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didn't notice the OBCPO on the plane, because we were like,
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exactly. Fuck snakes, man.
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You know? And there's a lot of action and
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stuff. And you know, she's going on, I
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guess. I guess it's like the PLO Koon,
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the emblem on the side of the gunship in Clone Wars.
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Is it PLO Koons? It's like PLO's Bros.
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Yes, it is. Yeah.
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I mean, I that's a little harder to see than this seaplane
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writing, but you know, it's there.
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You have to pause it and then translate the Airbus, yeah,
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yeah. OK, by the way, shout out to
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rural farm boy. Oh yeah.
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He had a screenshot of our podcast playing on his computer
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and it was in Arabesh. Like everything was in Arabesh.
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And I was like, wow, this man is not only a beast, but he's got
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us up there. He's and he's got it in Arabesh.
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That is comical. I know, man.
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So this next one I've heard of, but I never saw it myself.
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It's the hieroglyphics of R2D2 and C3PO, and I guess that's in
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Raiders of the Lost Ark. When Indy and Salah are carrying
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the ark, you can kind of see it in the background.
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There's all these Egyptian, I think they're Egyptian, right?
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Hieroglyphics. Yeah, yeah, I think.
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R2 and 3PO are right there in the middle.
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Now I knew about this one, and I paused specifically to see this
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because I had heard about it. I heard about another one that I
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paused to see, but I did see this one and it's very clear so.
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Okay, yeah. Yeah.
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It's never. I mean, you gotta pause.
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It's like. That's the thing that's so funny
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is they they put this in the background, barely noticeable,
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and you have to really be looking for it to see it.
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Yeah. Which just goes to show how much
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they are thinking about it and having fun with it.
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Right? Because most people are going to
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miss it. Yeah, it's the having fun
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because I don't know, it's it's these little things.
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If I we're putting together a work of art, such as these kinds
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of movies that stand the test of time, I would have a little fun
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with it. Who wouldn't want a little
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inside joke or an inside like nudge, nudge, nudge, you know?
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Well, and of course, all of this then makes people wonder, you
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know, is there a connection between the universes?
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Of course, it could just be them having fun as film makers, but
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is there possibility that Indiana Jones is in the same
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Galaxy as Han Solo? Why not?
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Why not? Exactly.
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There's two of them. Shit.
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OK, next one's pretty pretty obvious.
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This is in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, just before the
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activation of the Akator Akator. I don't know.
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I haven't seen this is the one. I've never seen this one.
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Yeah, same Indy, says the famous line.
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A bad feeling about this, which is, you know, I've got a bad
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feeling about this, which I'm pretty positive Han Solo has
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uttered. Oh yeah.
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I can't remember if he's the one who said it.
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No, he probably isn't the one who said it first, but he
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definitely does say it, Yeah. He does say it, so I nod to
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himself as a different character in a different timeline, Galaxy,
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etcetera. Plus, apparently it's like right
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before a spaceship A. Spaceship shows up, yeah.
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How appropriate. That's nice.
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Who the hell knew Indiana Jones and aliens would one day cross
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paths? But yeah, there's a there's a
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reason I haven't seen this one. Yeah, I don't.
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I well, Shia Labeouf's in it and I'm not like the biggest fan.
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Yeah, just not a fan whatsoever. No, not knocking him.
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I just, he wasn't, I wasn't watching movies when he came
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into the scene, right. And so I like totally missed
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growing up with him or or being introduced to him And so he's
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just like a guy I know is in movies, period.
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So. No real connection or tie there.
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Yeah. No.
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So, no, nothing, nothing against him.
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I just, you know, whatever. Yeah, I have a bad feeling about
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him being in these movies. Sorry, sorry.
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The joke was there. I had to take it.
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This next one was really, really obvious.
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Obvious. I even noticed this as a kid.
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Yeah, this was the one I I know. Yeah, most people know this one.
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It's from Temple of Doom. The club at the beginning is
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Club Obi Wan. It's really no.
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Here's where I need to enter into this because I want to know
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what club Obi wan's about. Is he wearing a Hawaiian shirt
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like The Lego Movie? Does he sing on stage?
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Is he is he telling people in his in his club that they can
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have death sticks or are they still outlawed?
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I was thinking how appropriate it is because Obi Wan is one of
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the few Jedi we've seen take a shot.
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He's he's the exact reason I think they have a club.
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Obi Wan because he's the most straight buttoned up like and
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he's the one who takes he. He's like I don't even know how
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to describe it. He's over here being the perfect
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Jedi, who's the perfect everything with perfect Terran,
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perfect morals and he's taking shots and death sticks and he's
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and he's in a Hawaiian shirt and and the whole thing, it's.
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Just on stage. Yes he does.
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And he like ad libs and shit, so I don't know if there's a club
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Obi want, I want in. How much is the cover charge?
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Let me know. Yeah, I will never leave.
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I will pay and never leave. You cannot kick me out.
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I feel like it's a club that Ventress would would frequent.
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Yes, I. Feel like she would be allowed
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in this club. I I agree.
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She's always sitting in the back drinking her.
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Yes, booze of choice. Yeah, and she gets it for free.
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I know in the movie In Temple of Doom, I think it's even
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Spielberg's wife. Is the woman singing on stage.
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I could be wrong. I haven't watched this movie for
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a while, but I would much prefer it if it was Obi Wan singing on
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stage. It is club Obi Wan after all.
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It is at this point we're going to have to get him in there.
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Yeah, I mean, at this point, when this was made, it was still
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Alec Guinness was Obi Wan. Ewan McGregor was not.
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So people might not have preferred it.
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Alec Guinness? Who?
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I. Think that'd be hilarious?
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On stage, he would pop up and, like, pull his hood up like,
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hello, patrons, enjoy yourselves tonight.
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Oh my God, I have no recollection of this Droid over
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here serving drinks. Right, right.
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Don't remember ever owning A Droid liar?
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'Cause you're drunk, I'll be wanting your own club.
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Go home, Obi Ron, you're drunk. Too many death sticks?
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Or that. Burn the memory.
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It's also seen at the very end of Disneyland's Indiana Jones
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ride. Oh, is it?
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Have you ever been on that ride? Here's the thing.
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I'm pretty sure it was broken when we were there recently.
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So we were not on it. Or was it?
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No, we were on. We were.
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We rode the mummy ride. Indiana Jones, I believe was
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broken, 'cause these things are always broken, like periodically
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broken throughout the day. So I wouldn't know.
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I would remember this, but we did not ride.
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It sounds like the ride had too many death sticks also.
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So. That was bad.
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Yeah, that was real bad. I love it.
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No, I love it. Wait, now there's another club
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mirroring Club Obi Wan in the Temple of Doom.
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Star Wars The Bad Batch Season 2 features a nightclub that Clone
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Force 99 has to shoot their way out of, much like Indiana Jones.
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Even better, the name of the club when translated from the
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Star Wars alphabet, AKA Orbesh, is Club Lau Che.
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Yes, and I guess I forgot to mention that club Obi Wan is
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owned by Lauche in Temple. Of there you go.
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That's why. There you go.
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Makes sense, yeah. Well, I haven't seen Season 2 of
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Bad Batch. I know.
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Don't come for me. Cancel me if you want, but don't
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come for me. Haven't seen it yet.
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It's on the list. So I was unaware of this.
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That's very fun. I like that.
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I mean, I love that even in current Star Wars, there's still
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sliding the Indiana Jones references and.
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Yeah, aren't we going to have an and OR reference at some point
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too? Oh, a couple.
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There's actually at least two, if not three.
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Yeah. OK, 'cause I recognize those,
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but we'll get to those. I'm I'm getting ahead of myself.
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Well, this one we've already talked about, we actually talked
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about in our last two episodes, last episode the the staff of
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Raw. If you haven't listened to our
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recent episode, we talked about Dooku Captured and the Gungan
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General and Senator Karas who is bringing the ransom to get
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Dooku. He carries the staff and it is
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the staff of RAW, basically missing the Red Ruby or Gem,
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whatever that is. But otherwise it's pretty much
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identical. And that's the staff of RAW from
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Raiders of the Lost Ark. That's essentially what spawned
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us to do this episode. We were talking about it, and
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we're like, oh, how many crossovers are there?
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Yeah. 'Cause that one I knew about
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cause Dave Filoni mentioned it. I didn't even notice it when I
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was watching. I I have, I have Clone Wars on
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DVD. That's how long ago I bought
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them. I don't even know if they come
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out on DVD nowadays, but there's all this special features.
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And Filoni was talking about the staff of RAW and I was like,
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that is fucking cool. And again, love that they do
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that. Well this next one I have seen
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but didn't realize it because anyone who's been to Galaxy's
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Edge, this is this is a nod to that it's Indy's Ark Covenant
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which is all over the Star Wars Galaxy including Clone Wars
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Episode Liberty on Ryloth which is one of it's of excellent
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excellent episode. The version of the Ark is in the
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background of Wattambor as he attempts to leave the planet.
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The Ark is also on Batu, the corner of which can be spotted
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within Doc Ondor's Den of Antiquities, which is where you
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buy the lightsabers, so I've been in there 100 times.
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So is this picture that they have in the article?
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Is that from Galaxy's Edge? It is, yes.
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So like Doc Ondor, he's he's one of those things with the curved
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heads. What are those things?
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If Thorian or something like that.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. So he's one of those, and he's
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like busy. He's an animatronic and he's
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back there like fiddling with his antiques and he's got all
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kinds of stuff and cool things and artifacts and things behind
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him. And then Indy's stuff is back
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there too. Oh, that's so cool.
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It's kind of cute. Likewise, mysterious Box, Han
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Solo and Chewbacca could never open on their cargo hauler in
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The Force Awakens carries the ID tag 9906753, which is the same
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number given to the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders at the
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movie's end, which is such an obscure thing.
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Yeah, I think it that's because it's being closed in like a
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shipping crate in Raiders of the Lost Ark, right?
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And that crate has it on there, man.
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You would really have to be deep in Indiana Jones lore to spot
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that and know what you're seeing right away.
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I barely remember Han and Chuy's box that they can't open.
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Yeah, I don't remember that. At all.
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I've seen the movie several times and I don't remember that.
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And it's like, oh, you really got to be looking Who's keeping
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track of all this besides us? And Screen Rant.
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Well, Harrison Ford surely does give no fucks at all, but. 0.
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But zero? OK, so if that means Han Solo
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has the Ark of the Covenant from Indiana Jones on his ship.
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I know it's like you could say it's something else, but like
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that seems pretty obvious that maybe obvious that maybe I'm
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still using like I'm not sure language.
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Yeah, the. The the universes are connected
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somehow. I can see it.
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I know they're just they're just referencing.
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I know, but it's still fun to think about, right?
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But still, the Galaxy is a very large place.
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There's It could be out in the Unknown Regions.
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Yeah, well, especially since it showed the Ark of the Covenant
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showed up in Ryloth. I didn't.
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I I have no memory seeing that at all when I watched Nope the
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show. Nope.
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And we've we've seen these episodes more times than we can
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count. Yeah, and we miss these things.
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You know why? Because we're staring at Anakin
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and Obi Wan this. Is true, so rewinding over and
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over to make sure we see all the angles.
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Yeah. I mean, you could say we're
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focused. It's.
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Just not something else. That's it.
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So this next one I I never noticed this at all, and
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probably because I also never saw the Kingdom of the Crystal
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Skull or whatever it was called. Yeah, Indies Crystal Skull shows
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up in season three of the Clone Wars in Wookie Hunt.
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That's the episode where Ahsoka gets taken by Trendo
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Transdocians. I can barely say that.
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And like they hunt her like the most dangerous game.
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Kids show, right? Exactly.
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Good Lord, so in one of their, I think it's like they're hunting
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a lodge. The Crystal Skull is up on on a
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shelf and something that I've heard Filoni say.
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There's also a Wookiee pelt hanging on the wall there.
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That lodge is so icky. That is, I hate that.
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Yeah, it's really awful. Like these are the details that
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the Clode where's people put it and it's like, who the fuck said
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that was OK? I don't know, but I kind of
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respect it, even though it's terrible.
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Like they thought, you know what, throw it in.
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Yeah, why not? Just get ruthless.
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Apparently the crystal skull can be seen right next to the helmet
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of A Mandalorian from Knights of the Old Republic as well.
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Yeah, I I also never that's a game right?
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And I. Never saw that.
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I've never. Yeah, but I've Nope.
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And a Mandalorian, like, if you look at it, it looks more like a
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Knight of the Republic helmet. Isn't there like a temple guard
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or something like that from that game?
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Yeah, I don't. Know, I don't know.
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All these little details. Now this one, this one, this one
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I love. Indiana Jones, famous fedora,
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was almost worn by CAD Bane, and this is in season four of The
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Clone Wars. Obi Wan Kenobi's undercover
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mission posing as a mercenary alongside CAD Bane.
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Of course, the bounty hunter is in need of a new hat, a
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signature style Bane apparently can't go without.
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As such, CAD Bane almost chooses a hat looking exactly like
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Indiana's classic fedora. He kind of passes over it, kind
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of looks at it, considers it passes over, it moves on.
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And it's like, hello over here, Indiana Jones's hat, which I
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think is great because it's like, how did he lose his
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favorite hat? This is all in the same Galaxy.
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I'm with you, girl. I know, I know, the, like.
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Indiana Jones hat will just blow off his head and reappear later
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right in front of him. Yeah, it's like a magic hat.
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He can't. Wasn't there a James Bond
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character that would throw his top hat in, like slice people's
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heads? Odd job.
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That's it. OK, so Indiana Jones does not
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use his fucking hat but to kill people.
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But he must have it to. It's like his trusty companion,
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you know. It's his comfort blanket or
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like. It is.
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I don't know why I compared that to a killing assassin in James
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Bond, but there you go. Hat.
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I just remember the dude. Yeah, hats.
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Funky hats in things from the 70s and 80s.
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Famous hats and movies. Yay.
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Our new podcast. OK, this one I I noticed this on
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my own so size noodles our girl. Our girl.
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What's up, psy? She sings anything goes, kind
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of. She sings like an alien version
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of it. It's in Clone Wars.
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It's in one of my favorite episodes ever, which I can't
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remember the name of it now because I'm blanking.
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It's it's the one where Obi Wan has to go to the the dudes.
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Hunt for 0. Yeah, because it's his.
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Mother. Yes, Hunt for 0.
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And yeah, and they and what's his name?
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Busting the door. Yes, I can't.
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Remember, somebody lives here. Quinlan.
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Oh my God, my brain. Just Quinn stopped working for a
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minute. So at the beginning of Temple of
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Doom, Winnie Scott, is that the character's name or the
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actress's name? I don't know.
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Sings, anything goes. And then in this episode of
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Clone Wars, Psy sings something that is similar, but it's alien.
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And some of the phrasing is like inverted a little bit.
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But yeah, it's definitely a reference to Temple of Doom,
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which I did notice that. That's one thing.
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I did not. I can't.
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I'm focusing on way too much when Size Noodles is on the
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screen. That I probably can tell you
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right now. I don't.
23:36
I'm not paying attention to whatever garbly goop is coming
23:38
out of her mouth. So God bless her, but like,
23:42
she's just too sassy for me. Too much sass in one little
23:46
package. What can I say?
23:48
This one I'm not familiar with at all, so I'm going to have to
23:52
read it. The quote Look what you did by
23:55
AZI 3 and Henry Jones Senior during the season six episode of
24:00
the Clone Wars titled The Fugitive 5 starts to uncover the
24:04
dark truth about himself. It hurts.
24:06
It hurts. And his fellow clones regarding
24:09
Order 66 refusing to have his memory wiped 5 knocks a camp a
24:14
coming someone from Camino. I can't say Cam, Camino, Yoan,
24:23
someone from Camino, a scientist, and a handful of
24:26
security guards unconscious. This causes the Droid AZI 3 to
24:30
remark, Look what you did. I can't believe what you did
24:33
before. Fives pulls him away in need of
24:35
his help. The scene is a reference to The
24:38
Last Crusade, which I fucking love.
24:40
Me too. When Indy knocks out several
24:42
Nazi guards and his exclaiming father says the exact same
24:46
thing, that is Sean Connery. I am here for it.
24:48
It's my favorite Indiana Jones movie.
24:50
Mine too, of course. And I can't can't believe I
24:55
don't know this. I didn't like.
24:58
I know that Henry Jones says that, but I did not remember AZI
25:01
3 saying it at all. No, because I'll.
25:04
I'll tell you why. There's too much sadness
25:07
happening. I was going to need to notice.
25:11
There's a lot going on here. I never noticed because I could
25:14
only bring myself to watch that episode one time.
25:17
Correct. That's it's one of those.
25:20
That's it. That's it.
25:21
It's a hard one to watch, but I like that they put it in.
25:26
It's great that it's coming from a Droid because they can be as
25:30
ornery as a father at times, you know?
25:33
Yes, I love the Last Crusade. I love.
25:36
Oh my God, I love it too. They're dynamic, father and son.
25:40
It's so entertaining and never fails to make me laugh.
25:43
It and it's executed so perfectly.
25:46
They play well together. I think there's a respect for
25:50
the actors there because, I mean, Sean Connery's a fucking
25:53
legend. I mean, Speaking of James Bond,
25:54
I just didn't see that coming. But exactly.
25:57
And then, like, Hans, Han Solo, Harrison Ford, excuse me, these
26:02
two actors are like Generation One, Generation two of greatness
26:07
and the fact that they're together in a film, iconic film.
26:12
And Sean Connery's kind of a he's kind of a little goofy.
26:15
He's a little, yes, he's kind of like a little off kilter.
26:18
He's a little. He's like the opposite of James
26:20
Bond. Yes, I love that.
26:22
And I. Love it.
26:23
Love it. I appreciate that whole film for
26:27
so many reasons. I love it.
26:28
And the love that India has for his dad too.
26:30
Yes, the affection and the respect.
26:33
I don't know. I just love the movie.
26:34
And I love Sean Connery. I do too.
26:38
I I think it's nice because it takes Indiana and shows you that
26:42
he's not just a suave, cool guy. It's like there's a real
26:45
relationship there. And that's I really loved seeing
26:50
it, honestly. And even like when his father
26:53
slaps him. Oh, yeah.
26:55
Yeah. Yes, I.
26:56
Loved that too, because you see that this guy who can whip a
27:00
bunch of Nazis, his dad will not tolerate blasphemy.
27:04
Like, yes. It's so fun.
27:07
It's fantastic and it's believable because of these two
27:11
actors putting on a hell of a show, Honestly.
27:15
God, it makes me want to go back and watch it.
27:16
Maybe I'll rewatch it. I haven't seen it for a really
27:19
long time. I know I haven't either.
27:21
I think we did an Indiana Jones rewatch years ago.
27:25
We watched all three in a row, but that was a long time ago.
27:29
And honestly, I could watch The Last Crusade on its own, over
27:32
and over. And never.
27:33
Gets sick for sure. So, Star Wars Rebels.
27:37
Orinda Price. Forgive me, Governor Price is
27:40
how I know of. Governor Price, Yeah.
27:42
Resembles Crystal Skulls Arena Spalco.
27:45
That's pretty obvious when you see the pictures side by side.
27:49
Cate Blanchett's character really looks like this character
27:52
from Rebels, but they've never said it was a direct nod, right?
27:56
They they've never said if it was a coincidence.
27:59
Or not. Well, it's.
28:01
I mean, come on, look at them, you know, right, right down to
28:04
the uniform. I mean, the hair is on point.
28:07
Yeah, it's pretty. She's like that.
28:09
Velma. Kelly.
28:10
Blunt, Bob. Yes, yes.
28:14
They even wear the same color suit, so.
28:18
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, the uniform is very
28:20
similar. I don't know.
28:21
It's it's got to be. I mean, come on.
28:24
It seems like a non. But can't.
28:27
Cate Blanchett is also basically in Star Wars as the unofficial
28:33
person who plays fucking. What's her name?
28:36
God. Oh, Satine.
28:37
Satine. Thank you.
28:39
She's basically Satine as well. Everyone's adopted her as like,
28:43
the face of Satine in live action, even though it doesn't
28:46
exist. But.
28:47
Do you think she knows that she's Satine crazy?
28:50
Absolutely, yes. Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
28:56
I listen if she hasn't been told.
28:59
Someone should tell her soon if she doesn't.
29:01
Please I didn't know that Arena Spalko in Kingdom of the Crystal
29:08
Skull is Ukrainian. I didn't know that either, and I
29:13
wonder how accurate that Ukrainian quote, UN quote,
29:16
Ukrainian accent is, or if it's just the generic.
29:18
I would have to hear it. I know there's so many people
29:21
just use the generic Russian, right?
29:24
It's not the same. My my partner is Ukrainian and
29:29
he speaks Russian. So.
29:31
Yeah, they had to, usually. There is a difference, though.
29:34
I would like to hear it. I I guess we're going to have to
29:36
watch all these Lauren. I mean, damn, I.
29:38
Don't want to watch that one, but I.
29:41
Want you to keep blanchett's in it.
29:44
I changed my tune. I saw the first, I don't know,
29:47
10 minutes of it. And there's some nuclear bomb
29:49
that goes off in Indiana. Jones hides from it in a
29:52
refrigerator. And that's the minute they lost
29:55
my attention, honestly. OK, well, now that.
29:58
OK, I'm back. I'm back out again.
29:59
Sorry, Kate. I'm going to have to.
30:01
Sorry. I'll wait for you as Satine, the
30:05
next one again. The Holy Grail makes an
30:07
appearance, this time in Grand Admiral Thrawn's office.
30:12
This is not a surprise. We see it in Rebels.
30:15
He has a collection of items because as we know, Thrawn
30:19
studies his enemies and their art and their culture and their
30:23
behaviors. Scary, freaky, crazy man that he
30:26
is. And of course, there it is in
30:28
the background, the Holy Grail itself on a pedestal.
30:32
It makes so much sense that it would be in Thrawn's position.
30:36
Not surprised at all. Kind of scares me of what he
30:39
wants with it. There was so much silence there
30:46
as we pondered. I know.
30:48
I'm thinking it's like the ability to grant you eternal
30:53
life, right? But you can't take it out of the
30:55
temple with. That hold up?
30:57
Nope, Nope, he doesn't have it as of Ahsoka because he had to
31:01
use duct tape. So that shit is wrong.
31:04
He didn't use it on his own troops.
31:06
He's. Keeping it for himself.
31:09
Everyone else gets duct tape. That that I would.
31:11
I can accept, yeah. He's waiting for the right.
31:13
Moment. Yeah, All right.
31:15
This one I love. Yes, this is the one I was
31:17
thinking of. Yeah, so this is from Andor,
31:21
Indiana. Jones's whip is encased in
31:24
carbonite in Lutheran's shop, which I think is so freaking
31:29
cool. And it's a great nod because it
31:31
it's both a reference to Indiana Jones, obviously, but then also
31:34
Han Solo, who was frozen in carbonite himself.
31:37
So that's a great double reference there.
31:39
I love it. I love that one.
31:41
Yeah, very much. That's great.
31:43
And the next one is the Raiders of the Lost Ark's fertility idol
31:46
in both Andor and Solo. So the the movie Solo, which
31:52
that's obviously a tie in right there.
31:54
Right. Because you know, young Han
31:57
Solo, young Harrison Ford. Why?
32:00
My brain is not functioning just behind the whip.
32:04
And Lutheran's shop is also the Fertility Idol, so that's
32:07
obviously the relic that Indiana Jones failed to retrieve at the
32:10
beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
32:11
So that's an Andor. And it's also in Solo, A Star
32:15
Wars Story in the office of Crimson Dawn's Dryden Voss.
32:19
As a result, perhaps Dryden ordered the idol from Lutheran.
32:23
That's a curious thing. So what?
32:25
When I read this, my alarms went off.
32:29
Well, Klaxon Alert went off in my brain because remember, we
32:34
wondered if they were going to make Crimson Dawn part of Andor
32:37
because there was that symbol. The little symbols.
32:41
So this would be that tie in and they had also referenced that
32:45
Andor was released from prison to the planet.
32:48
We can never pronounce that. We always say Jim Beam.
32:51
Yes, Jim Beam. Jim Beam.
32:55
Jabim. Jabim.
32:57
Which is also where Solo is, I believe at the beginning, or at
33:00
least whenever he's enlisted by the Empire.
33:03
So they're they're like making ties between Solo and Andor,
33:07
which is not my favorite thing in the world, but we'll see how
33:10
it plays out. But yeah, I don't know.
33:12
That seemed like a a more obvious reference right there
33:15
that somehow Lutheran is connected to Dryden Voss.
33:18
Well, they we never quite got it with those symbols, even though
33:22
we had theorized and people had theorized and yeah, there were
33:26
rumors and stuff. So maybe, maybe.
33:27
We'll see. We'll see.
33:28
Yeah, Season 2 someday. So this other one I I love this
33:32
one too. And this is when I did notice.
33:35
So also an Andor in Lutheran shop because Lutheran has
33:38
everything. He is like the Thrawn, but less
33:44
scary. He's just as a collector, yeah.
33:48
In Lutheran's shop you can see behind him on like a top shelf
33:53
he has like a Jedi and a Sith holocron.
33:55
And then next to it, shoved like into the shelf, are the Sankara
34:01
stones from the Temple of Doom, which I don't remember what they
34:05
do in Temple of Doom. I remember they have to be
34:07
placed in that statue. Yeah.
34:10
And I don't. I don't remember what exactly
34:13
they do, Like either the temple falls down or it gets powerful.
34:16
I don't remember Temple of Doom is when I don't watch that
34:21
often. I like that they're just up
34:23
there like pieces of a toolbox that he just didn't have the
34:26
time to put away, so he just shoved them.
34:29
Stuffed in a shelf, like kind of pushed them back as far as
34:32
possible. It makes me wonder why they're
34:35
not out in the front room. He must not know what they are,
34:39
or he or he does, that he's keeping them.
34:41
I love it. Yeah, I just.
34:43
I love it. It's so great.
34:44
They look really cool, too. They actually look like they're
34:47
made of glass. The next one is also from The
34:49
Last Crusade, but I have lot, I have not seen bad batch season 2
34:53
as I said. So it's the phrase let it go.
34:56
And that's when Indiana Jones well, Henry Jones senior is
35:03
holding on to Junior and the Holy Grail which lies just out
35:07
of reach. And the father is telling Indy
35:10
let just let it go. Don't, don't let it consume you.
35:14
Let the thing go. That sort of thing proves he
35:17
loves Indy more than the object, which is kind of like a greater.
35:20
Theme of you know. Possessions and and love and
35:24
things. And then this scene is
35:25
replicated in The Bad Batch Season 2, when a pack full of
35:29
treasure lies just out of reach, and Echo similarly tells Omega
35:33
that she also has to let it go, proving that she is more
35:36
important than the items. Yeah, that was a great scene.
35:39
So like older wiser figure telling younger figure, let the
35:45
I like that it's good. It's good symbolism for life.
35:48
It is. You're focusing on the wrong
35:51
thing. And I love.
35:52
I love that moment in Indiana Jones, too, because I know the
35:56
the Holy Grail has been Henry's whole life and at the end he
36:00
says his son is more important. That was.
36:03
I love it. I know.
36:05
And it's believable. Again, because these two are
36:07
masters at their craft and just Spielberg.
36:12
Period. So.
36:14
So this next one is kind of AI guess it's an obvious one but
36:19
Doctor Afra is the anti Indiana Jones.
36:23
Is she OK? Afra is from the comic book so I
36:26
don't know not everyone is going to have read all of them but and
36:30
I honestly I gave up. Guess it was it was just too
36:33
much. She is kind of similar in
36:36
personality to Indiana Jones, kind of cracking one liners and
36:41
kind of flippant and always able to get out of a jam.
36:44
But she's she's definitely more self interested and isn't so
36:48
altruistic as Indiana Jones, but.
36:50
She collects things. She does.
36:53
She works for Vader for a little bit.
36:55
Yeah, I know that it people are going to think I'm crazy, but I
37:02
won't read the AFRA stuff because I'm jealous of her.
37:09
I said it. I admitted it.
37:10
I'm jealous of a fictional character who gets to work for
37:13
Vader and she's a cool fucking tattoo or whatever those things
37:16
are on her. Arms.
37:17
Yeah, they're like, oh God, what are they called?
37:21
Like on motherboards. Yes, a motherboard.
37:22
Yeah, like transistors and motherboard and.
37:25
I think that's a cool tattoo. I've seen a person with them.
37:28
For real, I think it would be great.
37:30
I would love it. It's so cool.
37:33
Honestly though, I lost interest after a while.
37:35
I liked it. What was she?
37:36
Was she in Screaming Citadel with Luke?
37:39
Oh shit. And I liked that.
37:41
But also, yes, that was one of the the comic books where it's
37:45
like, I really liked the artwork and the story was just kind of
37:49
like, did I miss something here? Is there a chapter missing?
37:54
I don't know. So that's kind of where I
37:56
started to give up on the comic books, because they started to
37:59
just. Not there's so many, there's so
38:01
many. And they're just not as good.
38:02
I have all the Vader ones that you gave me.
38:05
I don't she she's not in any of them.
38:06
I don't. Think I don't think she's in any
38:08
of those. Yeah, she's in like the later
38:10
Vader stuff. I read like two of them.
38:12
I got pissed at Palpatine for being so mean to him.
38:16
God, I am so weird. I I'm way too invested.
38:21
What the fuck? Moving on, all right, If
38:27
anyone's ever been to Disneyland and rode or have ridden the Star
38:31
Tour rides, I've ridden the ones in Disney World, not the one in
38:35
Disneyland. But the Star Tours ride lists
38:39
Earth as a refueling stop on the way to the forest moon of Endor.
38:44
As such, this is what we've been talking about.
38:47
This technically means that Indiana Jones would be cannon in
38:51
the Star Wars universe. However, seeing as Star Wars
38:55
took place in quote a long time ago, Galaxy's Edge and Batu
39:00
which are in Disney World and Disneyland are considered Canon
39:03
to Star Wars and the timelines might be a little crazy.
39:07
But I say if if Earth is mentioned, anything goes.
39:12
Yeah. Is Star Tours considered Canon?
39:15
It's essentially you're just like in a canister that bumps
39:18
around. It's not really like a roller
39:19
coaster or anything. And it's a screen and you have
39:21
like, I don't know if you have the 3D glasses or not, you
39:24
might, but it's a different show quote, UN quote every time you
39:28
go in there. And like you can go in twice or
39:30
three times and see three different versions.
39:32
And I haven't done it enough to say.
39:35
That's crazy. I mean it's just, it's just a
39:37
little like for anyone. It's not, if anything, you get
39:41
motion sickness from like the bumping back and forth, but
39:44
you're literally in like a little like you're in a thing
39:47
that moves back and forth. Back when rides were not rides.
39:51
Yeah, I mean, it's essentially just like, it's weird.
39:54
So anyway, Earth is present, so you know, anything goes almost.
39:59
See what I can. Do anything goes?
40:02
Yes. All right.
40:04
This this is the final one. And this one honestly blew my
40:09
fucking mind. And after reading this I was
40:11
like. I'm sorry, what?
40:14
Well, let's have it. Let's end on the highest note.
40:17
Into the great unknown, which I've never heard of.
40:21
It's the ultimate Star Wars and Indiana Jones crossover.
40:24
A what if type story from Dark Horse Star Wars Tales #19.
40:30
The short story Into the Great Unknown is still one of the best
40:34
Indiana Jones and Star Wars crossovers of all time according
40:37
to this article. Chased by the Empire and forced
40:41
to do a blind jump into hyperspace, Han and Chewie crash
40:45
land on Earth and are attacked by a tribe of Native Americans.
40:49
Han is killed and over a century later, Indiana Jones and Short
40:56
Round find the quote somehow familiar remains of the
40:59
Millennium Falcon and Solos skeleton.
41:04
All the while, Chewbacca watches from the trees above, having
41:08
become the basis for the myth of the Sasquatch.
41:13
Oh my God, what the fuck dude? I don't know, but I love.
41:20
I'm never going to look at Sasquatch Shit.
41:22
The same after this now that from this moment on, it's
41:26
fucking chewy wandering around because Han died on earth from a
41:31
blind hyperspace jump. This.
41:33
What the fuck is this? It's.
41:35
So fucking crazy and. What?
41:37
There are two of them. Han and Indiana are there's two
41:41
of them. Yeah.
41:42
So it's not like one or the other, like they exist together
41:46
on this. That is timeline, yeah.
41:48
Wild into the great unknown. I'll be down.
41:52
Man, the Dark Horse comics were so much more fun 'cause.
41:56
They're better, way better than Marvel.
41:58
No offense. Crazy fucking shit happens in
42:02
them. They like approved storylines
42:04
that Disney would never approve. Now I'm gonna have to track this
42:08
down, but also, I don't want to see Han die.
42:10
That's weird. Well, no.
42:12
And poor Chewy. Just wandering the forest,
42:14
hiding in trees, looking at people.
42:16
That's sad, He. Has a wife and child.
42:21
I'm sorry, what? Then the Christmas special.
42:25
Doesn't Chewy have a wife and kid?
42:26
Oh, I don't know. I can't make it through that
42:29
thing. Either, but I'm pretty sure he
42:31
has a family and now he's trapped here on Earth as the
42:35
Sasquatch and can't get home to his family.
42:38
This is too much. You know what's funny?
42:41
In my workplace I have AI have a poster.
42:46
It's Sasquatch sitting on a side of a river.
42:49
Now you need to put a bandolier on it and say it's.
42:52
No shit. And it says believe in yourself,
42:55
even if no one else will. And listen folks, we believe
43:01
that Indiana Jones and Star Wars exist in the same universe.
43:05
So they're 6° from Sasquatch to Indiana Jones to Star Wars.
43:19
All right, that's the the list, the extensive list.
43:23
Did we miss any? Let us know if there are some
43:26
references to Indiana Jones or vice versa, some references of
43:29
Star Wars in Indiana Jones that we missed.
43:32
If we didn't miss any, tell us which one is your favorite.
43:34
Which one did you? Did you notice any on your own
43:37
without help? Seriously.
43:40
If you did. Good eyes.
43:44
So just tell us your thoughts and we will share them on next
43:46
week's episode. And next week's episode, we're
43:50
talking about filming locations. Lauren and I are going to pick
43:54
two, at least two different filming locations.
43:57
So we'll have four separate filming locations from Star
44:00
Wars, any of the Star Wars media movies, etcetera.
44:04
And we're going to get into where they filmed, how they
44:07
filmed there, why it's unique, etcetera.
44:09
So join us back here. We're doing film stuff next
44:12
week. And last week, we forgot what we
44:17
talked about all of a sudden. We laughed our way through Dooku
44:20
being tied up to Obi Wan and Anakin.
44:22
That's what we did last. Week.
44:26
That's right. Last week we discussed the gung
44:28
in general. We asked the question though,
44:30
what was your favorite moment from the whole arc?
44:33
From the whole arc, all two episodes was one of the shortest
44:36
arcs ever. But we got some feedback we
44:39
heard from our friend Ben, he said.
44:42
I think my favorite part of the arc is either the master of
44:45
getting caught scene or the part where Obi Wan and Anakin deny
44:49
that they were in trouble. Both the Ahsoka and the Jar Jar
44:52
which is very obvious on character on brand for both of
44:55
them. Totally checks out.
44:57
Yes, and our friend Z wrote in and said the control your
45:02
insolence scene is my favorite and everything.
45:05
Hondo says Obi Wan, Anakin Dooku and Hondo is the comedic quartet
45:10
I didn't know I needed. Love it.
45:14
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45:18
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