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  Speaker 1: Kids, he's the Bolt Reform It.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson coming up tonight. The United States is back
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  Speaker 2: as leader of the free world thanks to Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's despite the Democrats insisting for years that he's
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  Speaker 2: the devil incarnate Old get the thoughts of former White
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  Speaker 2: House Press Secretary Sean Spicer in a moment plus, as
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  Speaker 2: the conflict in Gaza looks to be drawing to a close,
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  Speaker 2: there are calls for Australia to cancel the temporary protection
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  Speaker 2: visas issued to Gazans brought here by the Albanese government. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the Greens are in hot water for appearing to use
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  Speaker 2: the anniversary of the October seven Hamas attacks to crowdfund
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  Speaker 2: for donations, and shocking revelations of just how much police
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  Speaker 2: resourcing has been taken up in Victoria by pro Palestine
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  Speaker 2: demonstrations and how much crime has been allowed to happen
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  Speaker 2: as a result. All of that with National Senator Mat
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  Speaker 2: Canavan later in the program. But first, the United States
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  Speaker 2: is back, and thank God for that. Who knows whether
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  Speaker 2: peace in the Middle East will hold, but at least
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  Speaker 2: today there is hope for a better future, and it's
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  Speaker 2: all thanks to one man, a man that for the
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  Speaker 2: best part of a decade we were warned was a
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  Speaker 2: reckless maniac.
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  Speaker 3: They told us Donald Trump was a madman.
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  Speaker 2: He was a threat to democracy, a threat to the planet,
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  Speaker 2: and a threat possibly to the space time continuum. Just
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  Speaker 2: eight months ago, The Guardian declared with its usual self
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  Speaker 2: awareness vacuum that and I quote, the forty seventh president
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  Speaker 2: of the United States is a danger to his country,
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  Speaker 2: to Britain and to the world. We were warned by
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  Speaker 2: everyone on the left. Won't we will be? Goldberg for example,
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  Speaker 2: said that if people didn't vote against Trump, well they
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  Speaker 2: would imperil their very lives to it.
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  Speaker 4: And every person in this audience to make sure you
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  Speaker 4: get out there and vault, and that you can lay
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  Speaker 4: by the wayside and say I'm gonn less somebody else
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  Speaker 4: do it then, because this requires you recognizing that we're
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  Speaker 4: all in danger.
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  Speaker 2: Here and let's not forget our very own. Anthony Elbanezi,
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  Speaker 2: who said that Trump's idea of foreign policy was not
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  Speaker 2: only concerning, but scary as hell.
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  Speaker 5: He's scarce acad of me, and I think it's some
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  Speaker 5: concern that the leader of the Free world thinks that
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  Speaker 5: you can conduct politics through one hundred and forty characters
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  Speaker 5: on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Well didn't that age?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Anthony Albanesi was on holidays at an undisclosed location,
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  Speaker 2: probably workshopping his next plan to appease isn'tists. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: was in the Middle East securing a peace deal the
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  Speaker 2: likes of which has not been seen before. While Elbow
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  Speaker 2: and the other cowardly leaders from around the West recognized
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  Speaker 2: the Palestinian state in the hope that a Palestinian state
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  Speaker 2: would recognize them, Trump jumped in and reunited hostages with
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  Speaker 2: their families.
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  Speaker 3: Should I say the night night?
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  Speaker 2: And then after addressing the Knesset, Donald Trump had world
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  Speaker 2: leaders meet him in Egypt to sign a peace deal that,
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  Speaker 2: if it holds, will transform the entire region.
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  Speaker 6: The guy who once dwelled among his people in the
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  Speaker 6: city still calls us, in the words of Scripture, the
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  Speaker 6: turn from evil and do good, to seek peace and
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  Speaker 6: pursue it. So he still was for his truth into
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  Speaker 6: the hills and knows and valleys.
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  Speaker 3: Of his magnificent creation.
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  Speaker 6: And he still writes hope into the hearts of his
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  Speaker 6: children all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, the US President may well be a deeply
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  Speaker 2: flawed individual, aren't we all. But it's amazing how God
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  Speaker 2: can use crooked sticks to draw straight lines. And I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know critics will scoff at an imperfect man like
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump quoting the Bible, but Trump never fails to
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  Speaker 2: demonstrate the kind of self effacing humility not often seen
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  Speaker 2: in his self righteous critics haven't listened to what the
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  Speaker 2: US President said when asked if he thought ending the
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  Speaker 2: gars a warmant he might make it into heaven.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven.
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  Speaker 3: I really try.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm not maybe heaven bound.
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  Speaker 6: I maybe in heaven right now as we fly an
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  Speaker 6: Air Force one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure eight I'm going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: make heaven.
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  Speaker 2: With Trump will make it to heaven, but he's certainly
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  Speaker 2: been able to raise hell in all the right places.
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  Speaker 2: Here's how he welcomed world leaders to the peace summit
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  Speaker 2: in Egypt.
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  Speaker 6: I've known so many of you for so long, and
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  Speaker 6: your friends of mine, your great people. I had a
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  Speaker 6: couple I don't like in particular, but I won't tell
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  Speaker 6: you who I have. Actually a few of them. I
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  Speaker 6: don't like it at all, But you'll never find out
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  Speaker 6: who they are. Well, maybe you will come to the
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  Speaker 6: of it. But I have most of you who I
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  Speaker 6: like a lot and I respect a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Might hate his enemies, but he's sure is good at
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  Speaker 2: making peace. Now I know what you're wondering. You're wondering
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  Speaker 2: who are the people Trump claimed not to like. Now,
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  Speaker 2: far be it from me to speculate, but I was
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  Speaker 2: greatly entertained by the way in which Trump put a
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  Speaker 2: few of the key Western leaders.
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  Speaker 1: In their place.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with Kirstarma, who you remember ignored Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: and recognized a state of Palestine while Hamas was still
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  Speaker 2: in charge and hostages were still being held in cages.
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  Speaker 2: Trump introduced leaders from around the world, leaving Kirstarmer until last,
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  Speaker 2: and then pretending not to know that the British PM
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  Speaker 2: was right behind him.
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  Speaker 6: United Kingdom, where's United Kingdom? Where's our friend? Who were from?
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  Speaker 1: Is e anything going doings?
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  Speaker 6: I said you here, these people came in like twenty
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  Speaker 6: minute notice. And I think it's fantastic, And we have
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  Speaker 6: so many others and just so many others.
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  Speaker 2: I love how Trump points out that Starma got there
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  Speaker 2: with just twenty minutes notice. The British PM is the
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  Speaker 2: guy who turns up for a few years after the
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  Speaker 2: hard work has been done. Remember Kiirs Starmer, like our
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  Speaker 2: own Anthony Albanese, he actually believes that by recognizing Palestine,
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  Speaker 2: he contributed to the peace deal. The arrogance, I suppose
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  Speaker 2: that's why Starmer stepped forward to the podium assuming Trump,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to have him say a few words.
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  Speaker 2: Watch it again and observe how Starmer's face goes from
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  Speaker 2: beaming with pride to a scowl as Trump sends him
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  Speaker 2: back to where he'd come from, because well, let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: Starmer had absolutely nothing to do with anything that was
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 1: Come there, is there anything I do?
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  Speaker 6: I said, you here, these people all came and like
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  Speaker 6: twenty minute notice, and I think it's fantastic, And we
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  Speaker 6: have so many others and just so many others.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely priceless.
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  Speaker 2: A total boss move by Trump to put a moral
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  Speaker 2: inferior and a dangerous one at that, in his rightful place.
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  Speaker 2: Keir Starmer's partner in crime, Mark Carney, Well he didn't
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  Speaker 2: escape unscathed. Haven't listened to this exchange between Trump and
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  Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime minister who thanked Trump accidentally addressing him
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  Speaker 2: as the Canadian president.
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  Speaker 6: Do you go mass go about you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you agree to me, the president, good question,
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  Speaker 2: It's good I started.
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  Speaker 3: At least I didn't refer to you as governor.
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  Speaker 2: Trump frominding Mark Karney that there is always the possibility
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  Speaker 2: Canada could become the fifty first state. And what about
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  Speaker 2: this interaction with French President Emanuel Macron as photos were taken.
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  Speaker 7: As we see the president there with the French President
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  Speaker 7: Mcron in Charmel Shaikh, the leaders of some thirty five countries,
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  Speaker 7: according to the President, gathering there for a peace summit.
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  Speaker 7: Now there is a bro shak. If ever, I've we
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  Speaker 7: won't let go. Okay, you let go, No, I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to let go. All right, there we go as they
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  Speaker 7: assemble for the class photo.
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  Speaker 2: There that broshak was part greeting, part chiropractic adjustment, part
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  Speaker 2: message that the era of weak Western men is over.
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  Speaker 2: It was yes of a handshake than a physical memo
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  Speaker 2: being delivered to.
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  Speaker 3: The entire world.
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  Speaker 2: For years, these effeminate Western leaders have patronized a weak America,
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  Speaker 2: and no wonder evil has been able to run rampant
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  Speaker 2: around the globe. Trump's handshake seemed to me to signal
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  Speaker 2: things have changed.
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  Speaker 3: America is no longer weak.
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  Speaker 2: America is back, and not the apologetic, soul searching America that.
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  Speaker 3: Lectures itself on privilege.
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  Speaker 2: No the other America, the loud, brash, unapologetic America that
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  Speaker 2: terrifies bureaucrats and delights freedom lovers. Speaking of delightful Italian
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Georgia Maloney was one leader who unlikes Starma
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  Speaker 2: Macron and Khne wasn't so foolish as to recognize a
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian state in a bid to appease terrorists internationally and
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  Speaker 2: caught the Muslim vote domestically.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look at how she was treated.
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  Speaker 6: We have a woman, a young woman who's uh, I'm
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  Speaker 6: not allowed to say it because usually it's the end
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  Speaker 6: of your political career of you saying she's a beautiful
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  Speaker 6: young woman. Now, if you use the word beautiful in
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  Speaker 6: the United States about a woman, that's the end of
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  Speaker 6: your political career.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll take my chances.
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  Speaker 6: Where is she there? She is you don't mind being
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  Speaker 6: all beautiful, right because you are. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 6: for coming. We appreciate it. She wanted to be here,
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  Speaker 6: and she's incredible, and they really respect her in Italy.
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  Speaker 6: She's a very successful, very successful politician.
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  Speaker 2: Honor where honor is due. And I love the sour
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  Speaker 2: face from Keir Starmer. And I love how Trump can
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  Speaker 2: turn a compliment into a drop the mic moment on
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  Speaker 2: the foolishness of cancel culture classic Donald Trump. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: are obviously a thousand obstacles to the eternal peace in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East that Trump talks about. Who knows if
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  Speaker 2: it will ever be achieved. But what we know today
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  Speaker 2: are two things. First, the hostages are home. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. And second, America has flexed its muscles as
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  Speaker 2: world leaders watched on in awe for people who genuinely
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  Speaker 2: want good to triumph over evil, that too is a
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  Speaker 2: very good thing. Well, last night, Donald Trump did what
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  Speaker 2: many thoughts impossible. He secured the release of hostages held
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza, and he brought together leaders from around the
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  Speaker 2: world to sign a historic peace deal that could just
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  Speaker 2: end thousands of years of conflict. Joining me now is
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  Speaker 2: former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. Sean, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: coming on the program. What a historic week. The Democrats
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  Speaker 2: have spent a decade painting Trump as a reckless leader
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  Speaker 2: who's likely to stumble into World War iie.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's the peace President. It's a remarkable transformation.
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  Speaker 8: Not only now they called him a Nazi Hitler, seems
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  Speaker 8: like quite the opposite. Today he's bringing all of these
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  Speaker 8: disparate factions together for peace in a way that.
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  Speaker 1: No one's ever seen done before.
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  Speaker 8: Right, this was clearly not in any kind of text
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  Speaker 8: or foreign policy manual when it comes to getting a deal.
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  Speaker 1: It took outside the box thinking.
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  Speaker 8: It took bringing together all of these different groups, understanding
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  Speaker 8: how the issues that were of utmost concerned to them,
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  Speaker 8: the equities that they would need to invest to achieve
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  Speaker 8: a peace, and he pulled it off. And so it's
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  Speaker 8: kind of the opposite that not only did they talk
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  Speaker 8: about him creating chaos in the world, he's continued to
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  Speaker 8: bring peace.
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  Speaker 1: This is the eighth such event India and Pakistan.
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  Speaker 8: There's several other countries in Congo where he has brought
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  Speaker 8: peace to long standing events. This one obviously huge and humongous. James,
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  Speaker 8: this is a win for the US. It's a political
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  Speaker 8: win for the United States, it's a political and humanitarian
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  Speaker 8: win for Israel and for Gaza. But I also think
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  Speaker 8: it's a big win for strategy and that It showed
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  Speaker 8: that you can think outside the box and achieved great
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  Speaker 8: results despite what everyone is sort of in the establishment
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  Speaker 8: dominant media tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the events of yes the day. Firstly,
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  Speaker 2: the fact Trump went to Israel while hostages were being released,
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  Speaker 2: rather than waiting until it was all done. It was
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  Speaker 2: probably risky because it could have gone awry, but it
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  Speaker 2: shows to me how invested Trump was in the process
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  Speaker 2: and in the freedom of those hostages.
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  Speaker 8: And also how confident he was in what his advisors
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  Speaker 8: told him was the strength of that deal.
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  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you're flying a pretty long distance and a
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  Speaker 8: lot of things could happen. When he got on the
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  Speaker 8: ground is basically when the hostages were starting to be released,
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  Speaker 8: he felt confident enough in both Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner
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  Speaker 8: and Marco Ruby and the.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of his team that he knew that he could
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  Speaker 1: count on the deal that had been agreed to.
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  Speaker 8: That says a lot about the confidence that he has
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  Speaker 8: in his people and in the belief they.
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  Speaker 1: Had in the strength of that deal.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, I think it was risky, but it also
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  Speaker 8: Donald Trump also knows how to sease a moment, and
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  Speaker 8: this was a moment. He could have waited you forty
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  Speaker 8: eight hours or seventy two hours, but this was the
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  Speaker 8: moment and he wanted to be there for it rightly.
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  Speaker 2: So well, speaking of seizing the moment, what did you
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  Speaker 2: make of Trump's historic address to the Kanesset. He received
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  Speaker 2: more than twenty standing ovations during his speech, and he
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  Speaker 2: was introduced by Benjamin Netanyah, who as the greatest friend
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  Speaker 2: Israel had ever had.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the funny thing about this is if you
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  Speaker 8: think about all of the names that I mentioned that
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  Speaker 8: folks on the left called Donald Trump, Hitler, being a Nazi, etc.
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  Speaker 8: He has probably been the biggest friend to Israel over
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  Speaker 8: his two terms of any president in modern history. It's
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  Speaker 8: amazing what he has done, the amount of people that
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  Speaker 8: he has surrounded himself with that have a commitment and
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  Speaker 8: understanding of what it takes to get peace in that region.
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  Speaker 8: But that speech was historic, it was dynamic. It was
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  Speaker 8: very Trump too. You know, he injected some lines that
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  Speaker 8: he were in there. He made that one comment asking
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  Speaker 8: the President of Israel to consider pardoning net and Yahoo.
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  Speaker 8: So there's a moment E eleveny the humor, historical significance,
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  Speaker 8: I love it. It was just very Trump and.
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  Speaker 2: Of course people in the public gallery wearing megalock hats.
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  Speaker 2: Trump the Peace President was something that you would never
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  Speaker 2: expect to see Trump speaking in a foreign parliament with
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  Speaker 2: people in the public gallery wearing what effectively with Trump hats.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, look, the last eight nine months since Trump's
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  Speaker 8: gotten back to office have amazed me. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 8: I thought that was a pretty interesting site there in Israel.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, I'm right now in downtown Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 8: When I've joined President Trump. During his first term, you
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  Speaker 8: wouldn't dare wear a Maga hat on the street to Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 8: Now they openly sell them at these kiosks on the sidewalk.
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  Speaker 8: So there's been a big sea change, not just nationally
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  Speaker 8: here domestically here in the United States, but internationally in
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  Speaker 8: terms of recognizing President Trump's popularity and his strength.
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  Speaker 2: Loft of speaking at the Israeli Parliament, Trump traveled to
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  Speaker 2: Egypt for the Peace Summit.
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  Speaker 3: Here's some of what he had to say today.
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  Speaker 6: For the first time anyone can remember, we have a
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  Speaker 6: once in a lifetime chance to put the old feuds
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  Speaker 6: and bitter hatreds behind US.
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  Speaker 2: Sean as world leaders look on Trump signs the peace
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  Speaker 2: plan along with the leaders of Egypt and Turkey who've
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  Speaker 2: gone as guarantees of the plan. I mean, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about art of the deal, this is it, and I
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  Speaker 2: think Trump said this could probably be and will probably
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  Speaker 2: be the greatest deal he has ever or will ever make.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Again, I go back to what I said a moment ago, James,
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  Speaker 8: think about these Arab states, the Palestinians, Israeli. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: these are people that have never gotten along, and to
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  Speaker 8: get all of them in a room together and to
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  Speaker 8: agree to have a stake in a lasting peace is
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  Speaker 8: truly just something that I think textbooks are going to
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  Speaker 8: write about and classes will be held on for years, decades,
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  Speaker 8: centuries going forward.
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  Speaker 1: It was hugely signif.
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  Speaker 8: Again, I also got to kick out of some of
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  Speaker 8: the leaders no names mentioned, that happened to be standing
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  Speaker 8: beside him, that were so quick to dismiss efforts. You know,
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  Speaker 8: just a few weeks ago talking about the only solution
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  Speaker 8: of a two state solution. This will never work, and
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  Speaker 8: yet we're quick and happy to stand behind President Trump
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  Speaker 8: wants his way one out.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke earlier in the program about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: Trump was clearly demonstrating America is back, America is strong,
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  Speaker 2: and America is very much in charge. As well as
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  Speaker 2: negotiating peace in the Middle East, he also did use
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to assert American American strength and to make
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  Speaker 2: that message pretty clear to the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't he, Oh, he did.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I mean, you go back to what we did
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  Speaker 8: in Iran, President Trump a very very unconventional strike, right
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  Speaker 8: then you look at what he's been doing on teriffs.
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  Speaker 8: Now this peace plan, this president has shown that America's back,
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  Speaker 8: both economically, militarily diplomatically, We're back in full force.
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  Speaker 2: Had Trump finished in Egypt, then it was announced that
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine President Zelenski had been invited to the White House
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  Speaker 2: for talks. So it seems to me sean as if
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  Speaker 2: Trump is wanting to use the momentum that has clearly
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  Speaker 2: been generated out of this piece deal in the Middle
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  Speaker 2: East to now.
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  Speaker 3: Try to solve the Russia problem.
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  Speaker 2: And I would have thought the Russia problem is very difficult,
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  Speaker 2: but gee, if you can solve Gaza, maybe there's hope
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  Speaker 2: in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's true.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, if you can solve that piece, you know
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  Speaker 8: that you can achieve it in Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And Ukraine.
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  Speaker 8: I think, look, there's no question you're absolutely right. He's
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  Speaker 8: trying to ride this wave. He's on a high. I
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  Speaker 8: think the rest of the world is behind him, and
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  Speaker 8: he wants to leverage that political capital with a meeting
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  Speaker 8: to try to hopefully get Putin to realize that you
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  Speaker 8: don't come to the table.
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  Speaker 1: He gave Putin a.
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  Speaker 8: Lot of rope, if you will, a lot of runway
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  Speaker 8: to find peace, and I think he has grown short
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  Speaker 8: with his patient over how Putin has reacted. Putin has
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  Speaker 8: shown him a lack of respect, a lack of willingness
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  Speaker 8: to achieve piece. And I think the President Trump, in
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  Speaker 8: terms of both sharing intelligence and now this discussion about
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  Speaker 8: giving the Tomahawks, which would be a very very offensive
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  Speaker 8: piece of weaponry that could strike In at the heart
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  Speaker 8: of Russia, has shown Putin that you're welcome is starting
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  Speaker 8: to get worn out real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Sean Spicer, it's been a remarkable twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you joining me to discuss it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, you ed, Thanks Jeevs well.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, explosive calls from One Nation leader Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hanson on Gaza refugees living in Australia, plus a shocking
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  Speaker 2: admission from Victoria's top cop about pro Palestine demonstrations taking
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: resourcing away from police and allowing more crime in the
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  Speaker 2: crime riddled state. I'll be joined by National Senata Matt Canavan.
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  Speaker 1: After this.
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  Speaker 2: Opposition leader see Susan Lee has requested a a formal
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: investigation into Senator Lydia Thorpe's threat to burn down Parliament House.
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  Speaker 2: Here is a reminder of what Lydia Thorpe said at
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  Speaker 2: the weekend.
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  Speaker 9: So we stand with you every day, and we will
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  Speaker 9: fight every day, and we will turn up every day.
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  Speaker 9: And if I have to burn down Parliament House to
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: make a pile, and I'm there to free punt of
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  Speaker 9: time from the river day.
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  Speaker 2: Susan Lee has written to the Senate President and to
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  Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House, warning that those comments, even
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  Speaker 2: if not meant literally, could be taken literally and risked
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  Speaker 2: further inflaming social tensions amid rising terror threat levels. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me now is National Senator Matt Canavan. Matt, thanks for
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: coming on the program. What I'm curious about is why
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: would Susan Lee need to write a letter. Shouldn't be
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Leader of the House and the Senate President automatically launch
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: an investigation after hearing that just as we all heard it.
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  Speaker 10: Look, you would hope so, But it seems like the
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  Speaker 10: Labor Party is intent here James on whitewashing this incident.
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  Speaker 10: They're downplaying it. And look, I think this is in
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: a different ballpark than other outbursts we've seen from sanator Thorpe. Previously.
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  Speaker 10: She's disrupted official proceedings, made a bit of a cloud
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  Speaker 10: of her self on the streets of Melbourne, all things
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  Speaker 10: that are not desirable. But I've sort of parked them
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  Speaker 10: in the category of will the voters will have their say.
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  Speaker 10: But this is a call to conduct a violence act.
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  Speaker 10: And I know said Thorpe is now saying I didn't
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  Speaker 10: mean it literally, but that's not what she said at
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: the time. And this has to be taken much more
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: seriously than the government is doing. The last time an
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  Speaker 10: MP was expelled from the Parliament in nineteen twenty, that
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  Speaker 10: MP simply said that he referred to the British Empire
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  Speaker 10: as this bloody and accursed empire and he was expelled
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  Speaker 10: for disloyalty and sedition. Now, I don't know if we
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  Speaker 10: want to go exactly there yet, but there has to
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: be steps down this path. There has to be serious
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  Speaker 10: sanctions here for any MP that is suggesting somehow the
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  Speaker 10: parliament should be burnt down or there should be any
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  Speaker 10: kind of violence towards our parliamentary democracy. If you're a
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: member of that representative democracy, you shouldn't get to be
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  Speaker 10: able to get away with saying that that should no
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: longer exist.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought so, and we'll watch eagerly to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: see what takes place, if anything, in that situation. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: want to ask you about One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson's
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: call for the PM to send Garzan asylum seekers home
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  Speaker 2: now that the fighting has ended, and to cancel the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: temporary visas that have been issued to about seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty six Palestinians still to arrive from Garza.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree with Senator Hanson's call.
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  Speaker 10: Well, there's no way we should be taking more people
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  Speaker 10: from Gaza now that the conflict zone. We never should
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: have taken them in this way in the first place.
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  Speaker 10: That's the point myself and my colleagues have been making
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  Speaker 10: ever since this ridiculously hasty decision was taken. We have
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: proper processes that need to go through. Of course, before
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: anyone arrives in this country. Those processes have to be
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: very strict for people coming from a war torn environment,
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  Speaker 10: and my understanding was that there was no ability to
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: do those assessments in person on the ground in the
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  Speaker 10: Middle East before people arrived here, and that, to my mind,
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: is a completely unacceptable risk to the Australian people that
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: we could only do those assessments after they arrived. Now,
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: in terms of this is the problem with Santa Hanson's
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  Speaker 10: suggestion here, and it's an understandable one, but like a
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  Speaker 10: lot of times from one nation, it's not particularly practical.
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  Speaker 10: Once they're here. Of course, it's going to be pretty
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: much impossible to send these people back to gaza O.
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  Speaker 10: There's no logistical way to do that right now. Maybe
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: one day that can happen, but it can't happen anytime soon,
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: which goes to the point. The point here should not
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: be accepting in the first place, because if they come
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: here we find out there's an issue where pretty much
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: in a very bad place.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing that I think annoys most Australians. We
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: hear the phrase temporary visa, and we all know temporary
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: means anything but temporary We've.
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  Speaker 3: Just got about a minute left, but.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about the Victorian Police Commissioner
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: saying that the pro Palestine protests have taken up more
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: than twenty five thousand police shifts over the past two years,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and he says that because police have been rostered to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: oversee the protests, that's meant there's more crime in Victoria,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: without doubt than there otherwise would have been. How do
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: we stop these protests? Two years there's now a peace deal.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: What's the solution here, Matt.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: Well, there needs to be regulation of that. There's regulation
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: of how and when you can protest around our parliament.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: That should be the same around the country. We should
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: allow protests, but it needs to be reasonable and this
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: is clearly unreasonable. I've seen the premiere of Victoria out
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: there today saying Melfourn is safe. It's like she's bag dad, Bob,
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: you know, she's jolly mont des Jacinta. Well, crime is
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: out of control behind her trying to say that everything
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: is good and fine. That is a bigger problem I
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: think than these protests. You've got a premier down there
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: who just doesn't seem to know what the problems are,
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: let alone have a solution to them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that.
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  Speaker 2: And for the Police Commissioner himself to say crime is
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: worse because we've been diverted and distracted by these protests
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: is well, I think it would outrage most Australians. Matt Canavan,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the program tonight.
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  Speaker 3: That's it from me. Thanks for your company, but do
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: stay tuned.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Coming up is part two of our three part documentary
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Australia a History, hosted by former Prime Minister Tony Abbott,