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Love Island (EP 31): Situationship Vs Exclusive Dating Vs Boyfriend/Girlfriend · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey that folks.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, July eighth, and Love Island, Season eight,
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  Speaker 2: episode thirty one is in the books. And if this
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  Speaker 2: episode had a title to it, it should have been
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  Speaker 2: called why is Kada still crying? Why is Dylan still here?
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  Speaker 2: And why is k C back in our hearts? And
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  Speaker 2: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rope.
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  Speaker 1: Were you crying again? I was, you're crying again?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you fell asleep and I had no one to
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  Speaker 3: celebrate with. I was so there were tears of joy.
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  Speaker 3: It was so exciting. Yes, k C, he is now,
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  Speaker 3: he has worked his way back into our hearts. I
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  Speaker 3: think that was a really good way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: His vulnerability, the sweetness on his face, the authentic love
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  Speaker 3: and excitement and willingness to commit that he had written
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  Speaker 3: all over him was on full display. I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Do you realize who you're talking about?
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  Speaker 3: K C?
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  Speaker 2: That five episodes ago you all wanted to take out
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  Speaker 2: to the woodshit?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely true?
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  Speaker 2: And that is the beauty sometimes for this show Robes
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  Speaker 2: And that's the beauty, Yes, of seeing somebody at their
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  Speaker 2: worst and at their best.
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  Speaker 1: It's all who he is.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I don't feel I feel like some of them
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  Speaker 2: right now seem to be playing the game after they
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  Speaker 2: hear how America voted and whatnot. He doesn't come off
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  Speaker 2: as anything other than authentic right now. Maybe he's playing
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  Speaker 2: the game a little bit. But Robes, we have seen
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  Speaker 2: him at his best and at his worst, and both
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  Speaker 2: of them are extremes. Yeah, the good size is extreme due, it's.
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  Speaker 3: True, but I also feel like, look, everyone, this actually
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  Speaker 3: plays right into the narrative that people love in this
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  Speaker 3: country and probably around the world. Where you've got somebody,
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  Speaker 3: they're flawed, they mess up, they fall down, they falter,
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  Speaker 3: and then they rise from the ashes and are redemptive,
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  Speaker 3: and that's exactly it seems like. Look, they're all part
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  Speaker 3: of case. But he's learning, he's growing, and it speaks
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  Speaker 3: to the impact and power that relationships have on people.
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  Speaker 3: What the wrong relationship will contribute to your energy and
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  Speaker 3: your life and your demeanor and how you act, and
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  Speaker 3: how the right relationship can actually change and bring out
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  Speaker 3: the best in you. And it's on full display. So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: we saw that full arc with KC and it's actually
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  Speaker 3: just been beautiful to watch and a lesson for all
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  Speaker 3: of us that don't be so quick to judge. Don't
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  Speaker 3: be so quick to say someone's bad. Don't be so
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  Speaker 3: quick to judge someone's character based on a specific situation
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  Speaker 3: that you don't know how you would act if you
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  Speaker 3: were in it.
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  Speaker 2: I just hated folks are ready to throw them away,
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  Speaker 2: Just throw away somebody who exhibits, Yes, some pretty ugly,
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  Speaker 2: some pretty bad behavior, but roods, I am glad I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know. I don't know this guy and didn't have
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  Speaker 2: high hopes. But I'm saying in everything else we saw
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  Speaker 2: about him, there were things that I did recognize from
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  Speaker 2: I mean just guys I have known over the years,
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  Speaker 2: and why people were just we'd never seen that behavior before.
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  Speaker 2: This is how guys talk or whatever. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: it's the end of the world or he is the
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  Speaker 2: worst person in the world, even though we can condemn
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  Speaker 2: the behavior ropes without throwing away the human being. And look,
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  Speaker 2: he's made a comeback to where you sabine every woman
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  Speaker 2: who was sitting on the couch with us robes and
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  Speaker 2: I'm the only dude sitting there. Man, y'all, I wish
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  Speaker 2: we had video. There was no way casey he could
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  Speaker 2: come back into you all's hearts and.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is, you know what those were?
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  Speaker 3: He he saw that behavior on movie night. I think
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  Speaker 3: it really resonated with him. It hit him hard when
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  Speaker 3: he saw what he looked like, he saw what he
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  Speaker 3: sounded like. He owned it and he made amend. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that was beautiful. And it was funny because
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to actually pull up the text that
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  Speaker 3: I got last night, me me dead ass crying about
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  Speaker 3: Casey and TT. That was so adorable. So yes, we've
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  Speaker 3: gone from not liking that couple at all when they
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  Speaker 3: walk back into the villa from Casa Amore to rooting
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  Speaker 3: for their long lasting love story. I want to see
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  Speaker 3: them get married and have kids. Like That's where I
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  Speaker 3: am right now. That's how beautiful this episode ended. But
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  Speaker 3: it began. There was a lot of speculation before last
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  Speaker 3: night's episode that someone was getting dumped, and not just anyone.
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  Speaker 3: People were convinced that Dylan and Kenzie were gone because
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  Speaker 3: people the sleuthing that is going on behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: to try and figure out what's happening. There were a
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  Speaker 3: couple days ahead of us in Fiji before they air,
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  Speaker 3: and Dylan there was activity on his social media accounts.
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  Speaker 3: It appeared as if he had suddenly followed Islanders, Jaden,
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  Speaker 3: Sean and Zach. How could he have done that if
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  Speaker 3: he didn't have access to his phone. If he has
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  Speaker 3: access to his phone, he must have gotten dumped. None
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  Speaker 3: of it was true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I people really really thought they knew how this
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  Speaker 2: was going to break down, and it I guess Robes,
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised at the idea that he if they
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  Speaker 2: knew he was on standby to come onto the show.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear.
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  Speaker 2: That he would have been able to play around in
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  Speaker 2: his phone that much if he was in waiting. But
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  Speaker 2: then on the other side of that, Robes, if he
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  Speaker 2: had just gotten kicked out, I'm pretty sure they would
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  Speaker 2: have said to him, pretty, you're not going to.
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  Speaker 1: Be able to fill. They wouldn't have let him have
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  Speaker 1: access to that because it would give it away.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like the producers are smart enough to
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  Speaker 3: know that people at home are smart enough to figure
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  Speaker 3: out when someone has activity on a phone they're not
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  Speaker 3: supposed to have access to that. That would mean something
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  Speaker 3: or it would point to an outcome on the show.
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  Speaker 3: So the idea now is people think, well, yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: was on his phone before he actually entered the villa,
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  Speaker 3: so he had already seen who some of the players
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  Speaker 3: were and had already followed them before he even got there.
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  Speaker 1: Son, Dylan, Still he's.
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  Speaker 3: Still there, Christ Yeah, Dylan is still in the night.
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  Speaker 2: Did he have last night? And again, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: I fell asleep last night late. I watched fully the
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  Speaker 2: episode this morning, Yes you did. Once again, Dylan is
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  Speaker 2: just I guess he's trying to come around and say
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  Speaker 2: I forgive you, Kinsey and we can move forward kind
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  Speaker 2: of a thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't get this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she said nothing different than she had said to
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  Speaker 3: him several nights in a row, but somehow it finally
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  Speaker 3: stuck with him and he was willing to move on
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  Speaker 3: and move forward. But look, the episode began with the
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  Speaker 3: girls getting a message. I believe it was a Naya,
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  Speaker 3: and she had to sneak and wake up all of
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  Speaker 3: the girls and get out of the villa without any
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  Speaker 3: of the boys noticing. I was shocked that the boys
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  Speaker 3: all slept that hard. None of them woke up.
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  Speaker 1: I think they might have. This might have been some editing.
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  Speaker 1: None of them woke up.
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  Speaker 3: Seven dudes, Yeah, you would have known if I got
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  Speaker 3: out of the bed.
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  Speaker 2: Seven dudes, Yeah, okay, seven dudes didn't notice seven women.
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  Speaker 2: One out of the seven felt I think this might
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  Speaker 2: have been some editing, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: And dandy, but you can't.
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  Speaker 3: It was shocking to me.
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  Speaker 1: They had to change.
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  Speaker 3: They were actually crawling on the floor and then like
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  Speaker 3: quietly tiptoeing upstairs. And they kept showing the boys sleeping.
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  Speaker 3: It showed since you're sleeping like two hours past, the
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  Speaker 3: other guys no clue that Melanie had escaped the hideaway
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  Speaker 3: and went off. They went to a water park and fine,
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  Speaker 3: it was fun and exciting. While they were gone, Casey
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  Speaker 3: announces to the boys that he is going to ask
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  Speaker 3: t T to be his girlfriend, and so they set
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  Speaker 3: up a scot That also seemed very like how did
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  Speaker 3: they know that there was an opportunity? Now the girls
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  Speaker 3: are gone, so the boys can set up to scavenger
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  Speaker 3: hunt so that t T will be surprised when they
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  Speaker 3: come back and he can officially ask for to be
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  Speaker 3: the girlfriend. That was convenience.
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  Speaker 2: Is it this show that does scavenger hunts? I know,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen in some other shows just scavenger hunts.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's the thing. It's fine, it worked, and yes,
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  Speaker 3: so while they're doing more drama, even though it seems
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  Speaker 3: like all the girls are getting along at this water park,
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  Speaker 3: the seeds are being planted, and it ended up with
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  Speaker 3: Kada just spiraling at the end of the show. But
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  Speaker 3: Trinity kept insisting Kada and Zach were in a situationship
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  Speaker 3: and that her announcement, which she announced everyone that they
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  Speaker 3: were now she and Zach were exclusively dating. Trinity was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, why are you not just boyfriend and girlfriend?
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  Speaker 3: And there was a lot of questions, and that it
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  Speaker 3: kept going. The conversations happened where then Kada's talking to Kenzie,
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  Speaker 3: then she's talking back to Zach, and meantime Trinity's talking
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  Speaker 3: to other girls and they're all debating on whether or
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  Speaker 3: not they're in a situationship or in an exclusive dating situation.
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  Speaker 3: But it all stems from the fact that Zach just
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't go ahead and say we're boyfriend girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: She agreed to that as well. You questioned, you said
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  Speaker 2: she didn't really she just went along with it because
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  Speaker 2: of him, But she did say she was okay with it,
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  Speaker 2: to point that I was convinced that okay, she was
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  Speaker 2: okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: She hasn't been.
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  Speaker 2: Shy about telling him she had a problem with something
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  Speaker 2: going on with it.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, But this is about moving your relationship into another place,
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  Speaker 3: and you don't want to be seen as pushing a
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  Speaker 3: guy into a label or into a category of a
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  Speaker 3: relationship unless he's fully on board. So she's treading carefully.
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  Speaker 3: But to me, the fact that she ended up at
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  Speaker 3: the end of this episode crying, that shows that she
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  Speaker 3: is insecure about the relationship. She kept saying she doesn't
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  Speaker 3: care what other people say. That's hilarious. She absolutely cares
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  Speaker 3: what everyone's saying. That's why she was brought to tears.
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  Speaker 3: And then to have it culminate with Casey putting on
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  Speaker 3: this big, beautiful, amazing production of asking t T to
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  Speaker 3: be his girlfriend. That just was salt in the wound
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  Speaker 3: for Cada because now you've got people getting asked to
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  Speaker 3: be girlfriend boyfriend, and she's got the exclusive dating and
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  Speaker 3: she's trying to defend it. But deep down, she's a
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  Speaker 3: she's spiraling. She's insecure, there's no question that's going on.
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  Speaker 3: I felt for her, but she needs to calm down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh she doesn't, And it's okay, bro, she just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: realize it's it's the way it's coming off. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: the rest of us, like you said, entitled, it's coming
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  Speaker 2: off as a little petty at times, it's coming off
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  Speaker 2: as mean at times, but you can recognize what you
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  Speaker 2: see in her robes is that this is someone who
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  Speaker 2: is trying to defend a decision she made that's not
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  Speaker 2: being received the same way by everybody else. And if
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  Speaker 2: she was confident in it, she'd be able to say, well, no, no, no, no, guys,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I'm doing and this is why. And
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  Speaker 2: she is is that this is insecurity one. Oh frickin' one.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening with Kaita? And it's and it is and
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  Speaker 2: everybody's liked her, but rotes her stock is falling this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: How she has not just my feelings are hurt. It's
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  Speaker 2: too bad that people aren't really thinking we're one of
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  Speaker 2: the favorites.
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  Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, no, Casey sucks.
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  Speaker 2: Well your relationship's bad over there, Well what about them?
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  Speaker 2: Over She's putting every down robes and it's coming.
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  Speaker 1: Off at this entitled.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty girl, little miss popular in school who's upset that
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  Speaker 2: can't believe everybody doesn't like her, and she's lashing out
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  Speaker 2: at the rest of you who aren't as pretty or popular.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is who she is. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It gives that that's what it
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  Speaker 2: comes off, and nobody likes that.
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  Speaker 3: Correct and I don't, and I know she doesn't recognize.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she's a bad person at all. She
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  Speaker 3: seems like she does a good heart, and she's a
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  Speaker 3: girl's girl and all of that. But she actually at
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  Speaker 3: one point said to Zach that Trinity needed to get
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  Speaker 3: off her high horse, which to me that was the
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  Speaker 3: window into where she really is. She's jealous that Trinity
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  Speaker 3: got asked to be a girlfriend, and that Trinity and
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  Speaker 3: Bryce our boyfriend girlfriend, and she wants to act like
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  Speaker 3: she thinks that's moving too fast or isn't real because
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  Speaker 3: they haven't tested their relationship outside the villa. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: her crying, her getting defends if her now saying Trinity's
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  Speaker 3: on a high horse. That all spoke very loudly to
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  Speaker 3: the idea that yes, she is operating out of a
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  Speaker 3: defensive position and an insecure position, and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: actually feel some pity towards her instead of annoyance. Because
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  Speaker 3: she's suffering, but by her own hand.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I feel sorry for her and your heart goes out
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  Speaker 2: to it, and there's empathy in what I'm recognizing with her,
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  Speaker 2: but it makes it difficult when she lashes out in
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  Speaker 2: the way in which she's doing it, and the high
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  Speaker 2: horse thing. I forgot about that. There is a sense
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  Speaker 2: right of we use the word entitlement, you say indulgent sometime.
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  Speaker 2: But it's almost like she's speaking like she's above Trinity,
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  Speaker 2: like nobody in here should have something better than me
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  Speaker 2: or mine. It's almost as nobody's as hot as I am,
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  Speaker 2: nobody has as good a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: As I am. It just it's feeding into that thing
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  Speaker 1: that Robes is.
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  Speaker 2: Wildly unattractive for a young lady who has been doing Gangbuster.
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  Speaker 2: She's been entertaining on this show. She's been fun on
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  Speaker 2: the show, and she's played it fairly well I think,
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  Speaker 2: and been authentic in her relationship. I think, But man,
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  Speaker 2: it's her her stock.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: For me, Robes, I hate how she's going about it
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  Speaker 2: because she's putting you can't go after Trinity.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know what she's just calling it
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  Speaker 3: like she is. I have to say she didn't have Trinity,
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  Speaker 3: she didn't have to push maybe so hard because obviously
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  Speaker 3: it was upsetting Kada. But she was like, look, if
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  Speaker 3: it's good for you, it's great for me, but it
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  Speaker 3: ain't what you're saying. It is because her question, and
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  Speaker 3: I think she was saying this in defense of Cada
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  Speaker 3: in a way, like, don't be believing him. Then somehow
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  Speaker 3: you're just in this exclusive dating. If he's not willing
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  Speaker 3: to say, let's be boyfriend girlfriend, you should maybe have
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  Speaker 3: a guard up, You should maybe keep one eye open.
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  Speaker 3: You should maybe just be aware that there is a
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  Speaker 3: reason why he's not taking that next step. And I
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  Speaker 3: think she was saying it in defense of her to
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  Speaker 3: protect her, like, just recognize that he didn't ask you
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  Speaker 3: fully to be committed. He's stepped he took a step
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  Speaker 3: short of that.
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  Speaker 2: The Finn that we just had a debate about this
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  Speaker 2: a couple episodes ago. Women sometimes what they want to
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  Speaker 2: be supported if they're with their guy or against their guy. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And now she's with her guy and she's getting pushedback
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't like it exactly. She doesn't feel like Trinity
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  Speaker 3: is supporting her. But I think a lot of women
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  Speaker 3: could look at it from the outside and say, actually,
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  Speaker 3: Trinity is supporting her. She is trying to warn her friend. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: there is a reason why he's not going to the
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  Speaker 3: boyfriend girlfriend, and you should just acknowledge that that's what
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  Speaker 3: she's trying to do, I think as a friend. But
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  Speaker 3: it's not being received that way.
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  Speaker 2: You guess say you say you see it from the
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  Speaker 2: outside because women are watching this, But if you were
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  Speaker 2: sitting in the position of Kaita, don't you think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of women's reaction would be the exact same. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: if you were sitting in the position of Trinity, wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times your reaction be the exact same, like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, girl, come on. But I think I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: believe this Caada would have taken that advice differently if
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  Speaker 2: it was coming from a man. If one of the
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  Speaker 2: guys I agree with you and there I pulled her aside,
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  Speaker 2: she wouldn't feel any jealousy or judgment.
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  Speaker 1: But because it was.
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  Speaker 2: Coming from even Trinity might have been the last person
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  Speaker 2: to give her that advice. Because Trinity is doing so
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  Speaker 2: well in her relationship, who are you to tell me?
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  Speaker 2: This whole thing broes plays out and it came out,
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  Speaker 2: and it's been coming out for two or three episodes
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  Speaker 2: with Kada, Yes, the worst of one.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned the word judgment. She used that word. She
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: felt judged, and so that is where people start to
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: get defensive and start to lash out the girls. She
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: said it to Zach, and Zach is not helping. Zach
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  Speaker 3: is playing the role of a female best friend, saying,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: you're right, I can't believe they'd do that. I thought
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  Speaker 3: she was your best friend. He's absolutely playing into this
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  Speaker 3: mindset because he knows he's the reason why she's upset.
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  Speaker 3: Actually she's let's just be she's actually upset that he
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  Speaker 3: didn't ask her to be his girlfriend, and so he
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  Speaker 3: knows he is the root cause of this. He created
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  Speaker 3: this weird thing about not wanting to take the full
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  Speaker 3: step and wanting it to just be a committed what
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  Speaker 3: did he call exclusive relationship, and even Bryce pushed back
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  Speaker 3: on him, like, dude, what is that? So Zach has
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  Speaker 3: created this new label that no one really understands. It's
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: actually his fault that all of this is happening. So
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  Speaker 3: now instead of acknowledging it, he's like, Yeah, why tri
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: did he say that?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Why would she do that? That doesn't seem right. Why
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: aren't they supporting us?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I knew that's where we were going to end up.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: This is all the man's I knew that's where we
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: were going with this.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: It's all the man.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: No, he has every right to not want to be
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: boyfriend girlfriend. He has every right not to take that
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: full step. That is absolutely right. But that is the person.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: That is the thing she's most upset by. It's less
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: about she's comparing her relationship to others.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Which is what everybody does, right, everybody does that. I'm
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: this is just one of those things robes. He was
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: honest with her, Yes, honest with what he wanted, honest
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: with how they wanted to move forward. Her reaction to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: his honesty can be whatever it wants to be. But
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: after he is honest and you accept that as honesty,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: she's come back.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And can he be taken to task for it?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: No, it's not. I'm actually not blaming him. He is
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: being honest. I'm actually it's actually her fault. She wasn't
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: honest with how she felt about his offer. She acted
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: like she was cool with it, and she kind of
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: was cool with it until she sees everybody else getting
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: the elevated status and now she's not okay with it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: But instead of getting mad at Zach or acknowledging that
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: she actually wasn't really not getting mad at Zach. You
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: can't get mad at him for how he feels. You
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: can't get mad about him, at him about where he
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: wants the relationship to be. But instead of actually acknowledging
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and expressing disappointment, she has to point the finger at
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: someone else. That's what's happening. So I'm not blaming Zach,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I really want to. I'm just saying he's feeding into
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: her being mad at Trinity because he knows that will
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: mean she's not actually upset about the status.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: We should have done another episode on this totally, because
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: this now that thing is what sometimes we guys get
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: confused about. How do you all want to be supported
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: when you come home and say you ain't gonna believe
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: what this woman said to me in the break room today,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Like what are you supposed to do? Do you want
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: some perspective? Or you said, ooh, I can't believe, don't
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: tell me robes. She said, what right?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you want. It's what you want
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: versus what you need. Okay, He's giving her what she wants,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: but it's probably not what she needs and that is
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a tough position to be in as a boyfriend, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: will fully admit. Now, when we come back, we will
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: tell you about Well, first of all, let's just talk
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: about Casey and tt. I'm super excited about this. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the episode ended with a major vote that is going
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to absolutely have some significant impacts come Friday night. And
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: we got the big old ties about one of our
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: favorite episodes each season. Families are showing up to Fiji
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition of
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Amy and TJ. And Yes, last night ended with just
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a beautiful love story. I mean, that's how I'm going
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: to look at it. Casey and t T. I just thought,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I know you weren't a big fan of the whole
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: scavenger hunt thing, but it was an effort. He did
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: what he could with what he had to work with
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: there in Fiji, and at least it showed that he
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: was putting thought and effort into it. And his facial
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: expressions to me, that was where I just got chills
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and my heart was warm because you could just see
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: it he was close to emotion multiple times because This
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: was really hard for him. This was a departure for him.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: He said he had always promised commitment to other women
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and now for the first he was actually going to
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: say it out loud and to finally commit to a woman.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: And I just thought it was beautiful because it really
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: did seem and I do believe it was Sincere and
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I actually think these two have a real shot at
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a relationship outside of the villa.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: True, as far as compatibility goes, they are up there
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: number one or number two, and number two might be
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Corbyn and Parmita, but they're gone now. But Rose, it
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: means you, Sincere and Melanie, Keita and Zach, even Bryce
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and Trinery that we love on paper and in person.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: They are not necessarily compatible compatible. Everybody would argue that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But they are cute together and have found their compatibility,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: but you wouldn't say it initially. Case and TT Boom
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: run out the jump. They hit it off and they
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have made since ever since.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was tough coming in because obviously one
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of America's sweethearts on this show is Anaya, So Anaya's hurt.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: That's a tough position for Casey and t T to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: come into. Knowing that a girl that everybody loves has
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: been hurt by the fact that you just fell for
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: another girl, and now here's that girl. That girl and Casey,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Tt and k come came into this situation in a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: tough spot, so to see that their love and that
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: their compatibility has absolutely been able to outshine any negativity
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: about their relationship. Initially, I think that's pretty damn cool
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: and speaks volumes about what we're witnessing and what we're seeing.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: And also those other couples. I didn't realize Zach lives
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: in Australia and he doesn't even live in the same
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: country as Cada, And you've got Trinity in Virginia and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Bryce in La but t, T and kc are from
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the same place and they have everything working for them. Honestly,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I was so in love with their love last night
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that I was thinking that I would absolutely consider voting
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: for them to win the whole thing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's them or Richman Trinity. Obviously it was nothing
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: but Bryce and Trinity until two episodes ago.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Who would make eb I wouldn't even.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Consider voting for anybody else number one until now and rogues.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: If if you want to start rogues right, considering like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: if you really are picking the couple you think is
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: going to be okay, the couple has the best shot,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you include in your criteria proximity to each other?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It matters. Long distance relationships are really hard and rarely work.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: They can, but man, you add the public pressure, the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: publicity them getting back and reading all this stuff on
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: social media that it can be incredibly divisive to a couple.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: We know, but to now not be in the same
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: city as that person or in some cases in the
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: same country as that person.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know any and Carl where they are.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Where they're they're no, they're very different. And they were
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: talking about it too. Carl's in Denver and has a
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: home in or has a place to visit in Nantucket
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: they were talking about. And she lives in Atlanta, so
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: no one is closed it exactly for Melanie and Sincere
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: In Miami or something Florida, I think, so she worked
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: at a shop in La.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, she's in La So everyone's long distance pretty
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: much except for TT and KC. And so that's another
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: reason why I feel like they have a really good
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: shot at potentially winning, and we voted last night America
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: voted last night as America. Yeah. Yeah, because they closed
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: it off only two hours. I wish they kept it
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: open for twenty four hours. I wish people who watched
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: it the next morning like you did, were able to vote.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: But yes, they voted for who you want to see
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: in the final four? And so who are your your four?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, already KCTT. You got Bryce in Trinity. They said
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you have to vote before it four or wouldn't count ye.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Obviously? Dylan is never going to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: get a vote to mine. And who's the.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Karlin and Nya? And then you have sorry, you have
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Sincere and Melanie.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, just by the fault. How many are left?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: There are six? There are six couples?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I believe, Well, who am I I'm missing? Somebody?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: It's Dylan and it's Carl and Anaya, it's Melanie and Sincere,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it's Bryce and Trinity for sure, and it's Casey and T.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: So maybe we just have five couples. Is that? Who
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: am I missing?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I feel like we're missing.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Okada and Zach l o L. That's the sixth couple.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: You know what? I would have to. I'd have to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: throw an Eye and Carl in there and take out
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Cad and Zach.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: No, but who are the no, there are two, So
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: two couples, four people.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you who I'm taking out, versus giving you
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: who I'm putting in. That's what we're getting confused.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Oh you're voting. I thought we were voting for the
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: final four people.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two couples. I'm the final four people, final four couples.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I thought it was the final two couples. Am I crazy?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: They only have final four?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, final four couples. Oh you're right, I'm losing my mind. Okay,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: So we're getting out Kada and Zach, and we're taking
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: out Kenzie and Dylan. So the four we would choose
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: would be Carl and Aya. Begrudgingly, see, I would put
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Kida and Zach over Karl and Iya.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: That could change in a second, but I just like
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Anaya and Carl's a nice guy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Good luck guys.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, that's really it's not compatibility at all.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: That might be the only difference you and I have.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Because I would pick Zach and Kada over Carl and Aya.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Then we both agree that we would put obviously Trinity
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and Bryce, obviously Casey and t T and then the.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Next Melanie and Sincere.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Begrudgingly Melanie and Sincere.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like I am I'm contributing to a disaster.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: But they're so good now they're gonna get married and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: have kids.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You forgot about that he proposed. It wasn't really a proposal.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It was a step before the proposal, two steps before
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: they do steps in their relationship.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Here that he hasn't even asked her to be his
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: girlfriend yet, No, he has not, he says. He says,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: he's inching that way. But then I loved Ian made
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: a funny joke about getting being closed off right now.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I forgot the comparison he made, but it was hilarious, Like, yeah,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: there is no such things like.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Saying you're on a diet when you refrigerator is empty.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I love that you just came up with that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it. Yes.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So to Jack and Cato's point, why say closed off
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: at this point, because he's nobody else is coming in?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Obviously he's closed off, closed off, So forget that exclusive
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: is a step, Rhodes, it is a step. I could
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: see their argument and he's everybody's giving him a hard time.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I could see what he's talking about, what she's talking about.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: When you put that label on what you are, it
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: comes with an expectation of family, of building something.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: We're going towards something.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: This means I got when we get out of here,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I gotta get on a plane to Australia to see
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: my boyfriend. That's a different pressure and as a different label,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and it does rope signals something different going on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Between the two.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: It also signals it can signal wait a minute, why
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: are we just stopping short? Why are we doing? Why
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: are we not going to the next step? I see that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with what they're doing. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: have no problem with Trinity going wait, what the hell
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: are y'all doing? But but, as Gabby Burnsteen says, ropes,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: if you get worked up by something somebody said to you,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: is not what they said or how they said, It's
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: what's already inside of you.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And she was.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Already to your point, insecure and uncomfortable with something to.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Where that set her off. In third episode in a row,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: she's in tears.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is oh so true, And so we will
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: see what happens on Thursday when the families show up
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: to Fiji. Sometimes they have them show up the Zoom,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: but it looked like from the teas last night that
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: those they have family members, they flew them to Fiji
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: and the reaction is priceless. This is an awesome, awesome
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: episode where you get to see the Islanders as as
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but as human beings who
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: have families and people who love them, and people who've
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: been watching, and people who are support vording them and
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: rooting for them. And they get to meet the significant
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: others and that's always a big They let their relatives
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: know how they feel about this person and then they
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: say what they think. I mean, this has a huge
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: impact on relationships going forward. So it's a it's a big, emotional, fun,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: celebratory episode that we're looking forward to.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Okay again, Okay, what no? I just had another Kida moment.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Just the crying and clapping that's all she does? Now?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she does a lot of clapping.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Why is every why does she for emphasis?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: It drives you crazy?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I know a little bit. I understand, well, you know what.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: She might be gone as a Friday night, so you'll
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: at least have Friday night, We're going to find out
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the results of America's.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Vote, so they.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Will have to dump two couples. I believe on Friday night,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: two couples are gone, and then Saturday and Sunday we
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: have the final four couples.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: That's why she's freaking out Robes. She was already in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the bottom too. That's why she is.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: She's spiraling, and she might know that for Zach not
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: taking the full step of boyfriend and girlfriend, that could
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: impact how America views them as a couple, which could
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: impact their fate on the show.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: If she just stopped clapping, I might consider this.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Just stop, all right, everybody. We always appreciate you listening
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to us. I made me robot alongside t J. Holmes.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.