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USAF UFO Disclosure & Wisconsin UFOs with Dustin Schutta & Jim Goodall · The Cryptid Huntress

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wait. Okay, y'all, Well, I have a fantastic show for us
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tonight. I have Dustin shoot to hear from Flying Chariots The Rise Podcast.
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there. I'll see y'all in that live chat later, Okay. But let's
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get to our guest tonight. Dustin Shoote is a ufologist that has been studying
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the UFO phenomenon in Wisconsin for the past twelve years. Dustin is one of
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the hosts from Flying Chariots the Rise Podcast. Dustin is also the custodian of
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Colonel Wendell Stevens Photographic Archives. Now, this guy is one of the most
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famous UFO now I'm talking about Wendell Stevens is one of the most famous UFO
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researchers from back in the day, you guys, and I'm the to girl.
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So I don't know as much about UFOs as let's just say, Dave
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Scott would, Okay, but this is going to be a fantastic show.
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Please help me. Welcome my buddy Dustin to spaced out Radio tonight. Way,
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how's it going, Hey, thank you for thank you so much for
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having me. Of course, man, thank you for being here. I'm
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so excited. You have some amazing photographs and stuff under your custodianship and and
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you're not only that, but you have been into ufology for a for a
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little while now, okay, and you've had your share of UFO experiences,
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right, I have just one, oh, just one, this one,
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but it impacts me so heavily where I jumped heavily into the field and finding
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out that Gonsin's a treasure trove for UFO settings. So yeah, nice.
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I figured it must have made a big impact then, because you're a deep
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been it right, like in the field and uh, and you have a
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few fantastic podcast and I've had the pleasure of being on it, okay once
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or twice, and it's been it's been a really good time. So tell
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me and tell the audience a little bit about your your background and in a
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little bit about your UFO experience. Sure, well, I grew up in
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Madison, Wisconsin on the West side. I love Madison. If you haven't
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been. You should come. It's the UFO hotspot here in Wisconsin. No.
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Yeah, Back in October nineteenth, twenty twelve, I was at my
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girlfriend's house on Kendall Avenue and this just happened. To leave her house right
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on sun set. I watched my car and I happened. So happened to
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look into the sky and out of the blue, out of the other clouds,
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came this silhouette of a boomerang size of a school bus, about forty
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feet above the tree tops, dead silent, about going about forty five miles
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per hour enough bright. Just look at it for a minute and to be
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totally shocked. I was my my hair stood up, my my butterflies flew
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out of my stomach. I was like, I ran back to my girlfriend's
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house. Is it total panic? Just like you just won't believe what I
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just saw. The fact that it was dead silent, like discrewed with my
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head because you know, you see those you know, those bombers, but
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you think, why would have bomber be in Madison, And like you would
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think you would hear a gigantic roar of an engine and that's what like really
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really flipped me out. So again, after that day, I just like
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I had to figure out what the hell I saw and finding out that Wisconsin
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is a treasure trove for UFO settings. So who would have been bunk it?
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I mean, Wisconsin, you know, I mean, when you think
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of UFOs, you think of you know, Nevada potentially, But we have
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our fair share of UFOs here in Georgia and all over the South and and
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we especially at the meadow where my team does a lot of search out in
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the field, there's a lot of UFO activity, a lot orbs, a
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lot of weird stuff flying around in the in the sky and in the environment
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that we you know, we don't really know what it is, but I've
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seen some pretty interesting UFOs myself. So they pretty much pop up all over
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the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's actually three towns here in
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Wisconsin that claimed to be the UFO Capital of the world, Dundee, Elmwood,
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and Bellville, and all three towns have yearly UFO parades where they dress
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up their cars like UFOs and just up with aliens and reminists UFO stories throughout
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the years of having it over their towns. And there's famous cases actually too,
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so we can dive into some of my favorite UFO cases here in Wisconsin.
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I feel like, yeah, I'd love that. Yes, I'd love
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to hear about it. Yeah, let's talk about it. Cool. Let's
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start with Joe Simon from Eagle River, Wisconsin, nineteen sixty one. He
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was just chilling in his kitchen in the morning, eating breakfast, and he
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just so happened to look out the window and he sees this dark, metallic
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flying saucer just comes down like an elevator and lands on his driveway, and
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he'says, he winks out. He's like, what the hell? And he
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runs out and he right when he walks out, there's a door that opens
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and a man, a human about five foot tall. He was wearing a
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tight blue jumpsuit and he had very penetrating eyes, where like Joe couldn't look
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at him like straight in the face without you know, feeling attimidated. He's
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five foot tall. He said, he look look at like an Italian man,
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and he had like a jug and he was motioning for water, and
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Joe just tries to grab the jug from him and got in water. And
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he came back and he noticed there are two other men in the UFO there
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were over this like flat top, like flameless grill. They were cooking these
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like pancakes. And the guy who he exchanged the water to, he picked
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up some few of these pancakes and gave it to Joe, and Joe was
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trying to communicate with him, get some words going, but there was just
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dead silence. There's just basically hand motions, and he's like, should you
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eat this? And he actually took a bite of one of these pancakes and
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it said it's like a piece of cardboard and an airplane or not an airplane,
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like a UFO or something like that. I would not take food from
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any anybody like that, from strangers, you know what I mean. Maybe
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the fact that he looks so human like that, maybe there's a little bit
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less hesitant. I don't know, but yeah, so he was again just
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puzzled, and then again they the extra treasure was left and just shot up
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like into the sky like a bullet, and yeah, what else happened?
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Yeah? He uh, he had those pancakes analyzed by scientists and they find
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out that they are regular buckwheat pancakes, but didn't have any trace of salt.
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Everything everything on Earth that's organic has a trace of salt in it because
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of the oceans. So the fact that like these were made out off this
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earth kind of makes it kind of like his story kind of makes more No,
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it makes more sense and it's truthful. And again, like there's other
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people who lived in the area, so these you know, trustworthy man.
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And I guess people saw lights that night too in the sky. Okay,
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so yeah, that's one of my Okay, so that validated. Uh,
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this guy, this the spaceship coming down. The guy is getting out with
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pancakes. Other people saw the lights. Now if it looked like an Italian
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man they got out of this thing? Do you think this is just asking
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your opinion. Could this have been some kind of like military program or something
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you think where it was just kind of you know, I don't know,
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some men messing around. Yeah, I know, yeah, it's it's messing
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with somebody with pancakes. You know. The only correlation that I can like
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really think about with the with the exchange of water and then like these little
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wafer things, is that how communion came about, Like how did communion even
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start? Maybe this was like something holy that came down in exchange with water
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and wafer. This is an idea. Yeah, oh, I thought you
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were referring to Whitley Striver's Communion, but you're you mean the religious Communion,
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right, Yeah, Okay, it could be absolutely it's uh, that's that's
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really what. It's really weird, super weird. But I mean I've heard
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more weird, like weirder stories, okay about ET's and stuff. Now,
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so Wisconsin is that close? Like, are you guys near the Great Lakes?
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I'm down here in the south Okay, so not not too long ago.
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We had those UFOs that were getting shot down all over the country.
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Okay, one of those got shot down allegedly over the Great Lakes. Now
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that close to you, and it's you know, it's funny is the two
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jets that came out came from Madison, Wisconsin. Here ye, well,
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I'll be okay. Well that they did shoot something down. I heard it's
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like a like an octagon shaped UFO. I heard there's like they were shooting
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like three or four of them down when it was like a cigar shaped one.
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Yeah. Over Canada. Well, they started off with like that weather
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balloon or something, and so the weather, the weather balloon, it was
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just all kind of wacky, all of all of that stuff, and you
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know, even even this week, Okay, we have to bring this up.
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We're talking about UFOs. Uh. There was an incident down in Miami.
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I know this has nothing to do with Wisconsin right this minute, but
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just a little just a little commercial break. Uh, there was an incident
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down in Miami where people were talking about potentially aliens coming out of a portal
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in a mall. Now what do you think about that? Well, let's
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just take a little break or a commercial break. Okay, what do you
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think about that? That is trippy? Now. I seen like all this
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footage of how many capture at this mall, and I seemed like the whole
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state of Florida is there. Uh yeah, I don't know. And then
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the people who were there were saying some really crazy stuff and there some of
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them were taken back what they said, maybe because they were scared that the
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government might come in. H yeah. Well it makes you wonder because a
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lot of people don't come forward to talk about their experiences and from what from
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what the reports are coming out of that place. The police were at the
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doors, they weren't letting anyone in and out. They were taking everybody's phones
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and they were taking all the pictures out of their phones. It makes you
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wonder, okay, And it's kind of like Las Vegas last year. These
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cameras caught the blue Leg coming down, and then shortly after Hispanic family calls
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and the police saying that there's giant alien in the backyard. Exactly. Well,
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okay, So but some people are saying, well, it could be
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the beginning of Project Bluebeam, okay. And that's the thing as well,
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because it's something we keep hearing about, like the fake alien invasions coming.
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It's coming, and so which basically kind of important that you have these photographs
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now in your possession, okay, because people have been documenting, including our
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military, the US Air Force, have been documenting UFOs for many years now.
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These pictures came from like the nineteen seventies, Am I correct? Nineteen
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eighty one, nineteen eighty one, okay, nineteen eighty one, and so
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these things have been documented for a while. You know, I just talked
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to I was messaging with my friend Jim Goodall, who might make a guest
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appearance later, a surprise appearance towards the end of the show tonight. We'll
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see but he was saying that he had just sold some of his photographs that
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he had, and I believe he might have had some photographs that pilots took
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from fighter. Just this is what I was told today by somebody different,
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that they were chasing UFOs and the pilots got pictures from the cockpits and stuff.
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So these things have been documented for a while. It's almost like,
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well, was all that released at some point to kind of build up to
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what's happening today with the disclosure, And now is it even real? You
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know? I think that's kind of where everybody's head's at right now, especially
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people who are in the disclosure community, were kind of wondering, like,
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what's going on right now? Sure, And I think a lot of people
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are predicting this year that we're going to see a lot of alien shit because
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of what's happening in politics and war in general. Yeah, yeah, I
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don't know. It's kind of eerie at the same time, so I'm hoping
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they're good. I know, Well, it's time for disclosure. I think
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it's time for everything to be disclosed at this point and let us know.
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And I know some people say, why don't they don't think that the general
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public is ready for full disclosure, and potentially maybe that's what's going on right
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now. Maybe maybe there are some events happening. Maybe it's a mix,
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you know what I mean, Like, maybe it's a mix of some Project
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Bluebeam and some real stuff kind of mixed in together just to get everybody ready
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for the big reveal one day. Sure. Yeah, the fact that we
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have reverse engineering all over like Russia and especially Germany during World War Two,
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what they were doing, yes, yes, and and so okay, So
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getting back to the lieutenant colonel that you have, you're the Chostonian of his
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pictures too, now did now didn't he wasn't he stationed in Well maybe I
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was stationed in Alaska. I don't remember. I was doing my research on
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him. I don't know. I don't know a whole lot about him,
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but I do know he's a very he was a very pretty high ranking official
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Air Force am I right, yep, in a pilot and yeah, here's
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h he was in charge with the other people who were in the military that
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we're seeing stuff in the sky at the time, and uh yeah, then
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he started doing his own independent research. He wasn't really working with Moufin,
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but yeah, he was working with Jay Allen Heinich, he was working with
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Paula Harris other close colleagues. Actually got to get to know after I get
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these photographs and then having them contact me to verify them. Uh, it's
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really awesome as an honor geting to talk with them and meet them and had
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had them on my podcast too, and yeah, amazing. Well, okay
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for my audience, Okay, We're going to get back to the Wisconsin UFOs
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in just a second, Okay, because I know my audience is really interested
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in in the lieutenant colonel and these pictures that you have, because you did
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post them on Facebook, and I got a lot of response from that,
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uh, from people messaging me about this. So I really I want to
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I think maybe we should just cover this first, okay if we can,
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or kind of like skip over to it for a minute, because I know
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I can just feel it. I've got that feeling that my audience is really
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into this right now, and and so okay, I want to. I
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want to kind of give a little short bio on Wendell Stevens, Okay,
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because I did I do have a little bit of information about his history in
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the military. Okay, so because I want I want you guys to know
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how important this is. Okay, this is important. So Lieutenant Colonel US
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Air Force retired Wendell Stevens was one of the world's best known UFO researchers.
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He was born in nineteen twenty three in Minnesota. He enlisted in nineteen forty
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one in the US Army. I mean, so this this is a long
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time ago. He enlisted in the Army nineteen forty one, and he was
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in the Army. He was transferred to the Air Corps in nineteen forty two.
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He served during World War Two and was in a classified project in Alaska
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to photograph, photograph, and map the Arctic land and sea area where the
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data collecting equipment on board B twenty nine detected UFOs. Okay, this was
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all this was in nineteen This is the nineteen forties destined Okay, and they
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were getting UFOs back then. And then he went. He also went down
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to He served in South America as well, and he retired from the US
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Air Force in nineteen sixty three and worked at Hamilton Aircraft until nineteen seventy two.
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Now he was actively involved in ufology for fifty four years and that's a
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long time, okay. And he was the director of investigations for the Aerial
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Phenomenon Research Organization in Tucson, where he retired. He amassed one of the
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largest collections of UFO photos and investigated a number of contact cases, published more
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than twenty two books or was published in more than twenty two books, and
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his most famous one was the Billy Meyer case in Switzerland. Okay, so
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this is a groundbreaker, you know, one of the first ufologists Okay,
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that that I would know of. Okay. So yeah, it's like you're
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following footsteps Dustin. Yeah, no, I idolized him. I was collecting
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a lot of his books. So that's one reason why I caught wind of
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his His storage locker is being auctioned out, like his boxes out of there
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being auctioned out. So yeah, yeah. I was lucky to win a
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few boxes that contained about two hundred photographs of cases that he worked on personally
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and has some of them have negatives to them and not all not all the
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photos are all in the series, but I was lucky enough to get some
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that are a complete series, like the F one seventeen Stealth Fighter UFO one.
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Yeah, that's the most most impressive one that everybody everyone's so intrigued and
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wants to see and get their hands on. Well, why don't we look
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at it? Okay, because you I would love to show the audience because
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it's so interesting. And I was gonna, first of a, I was
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going to ask you how you became a custodian of some of those, so
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you already answered my question. Yeah, but it's so interesting that like UFOs
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have changed. It seems like like the shapes of them have changed from the
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nineteen fifties all the way up to twenty twenty four. A lot of them
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to change. And this is like more of a typical like night teen eighties
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type of a spacecraft, which is interesting, right, So explain to me
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what we're looking at here? What is it this? So this is probably
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like the F one seventeen stuff that are coming in for the first time.
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And again we don't know who's taking these photographs. There's there's rumors that Wendel
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was the one taking photographs. Who knows that's true, and he's not alive
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to tell us, but uh yeah, Again, the UFO is somewhat stationary,
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but it's kind of always keeping an eye on that on that plane that's
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always kind of has a tip towards the plane. As the plane comes in
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back and forth, there's different swoops to get a different look and glance at
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what the hell is his children in the sky like that. The fact that
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this is a series of the plane just going in circles, swinging back and
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forth, checking this thing out. I mean, these are these are very
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clear pictures. And it's so weird because and I'm not going to say it's
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weird, but it's interesting about how everything is so blurry these days. And
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this is from nineteen eighties, the nineteen eighties, early eighties, and and
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it's so clear, okay, so clear, a clear picture of a big
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foot these days. The back then we want pictures. One seventeen is slightly
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blurred because it is moving, but the UFO is moving but very slow,
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so it's sounds it's blurred and not blurred at all really much. Yeah,
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there's a you ever, if you zoom in on that plane, if you
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can, or if anybody does in general, you'll see this. There's a
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slight blur on the plane, as it should because it is moving at super
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fast feeds yeah. So again it looks it's so beautiful it is. Yeah,
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man, okay, so these are amazing pictures, super cool and and
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you don't you don't see that every day, you know, so so thank
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you for sharing those with us here. Yeah, super excited. And I
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see there's some people in the chat that have actually talked to j Truth Seeker.
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Hey, I was talking to you last night. Actually, if I
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can find that comment of saying that he was one of the Wendell Stevens was
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one of the smartest people he's ever gotten to know personally. Oh cool,
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So that's really cool. Okay, yeah, but how cool that you are
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at Custodian. Now, Now, how many of these pictures do you say
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that you own? And because I know he had thousands of pictures, right,
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yeah, yeah, okay, I have over like just about two hundred.
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Yeah, and again I got one of one of the other out of
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all those, one case he worked on personally was here in Wisconsin. So
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I was going to mention that later on talking more about Wisconsin cases. But
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yeah, as like talking about full Circle, it came back here in Wisconsin.
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Those photographs of this guy who took here in Colfax, Wisconsin, oh,
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talk about it. They tell you about it. So it was nineteen
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seventy eight and Mark Coltrane, who's a police officer in Colfax, Wisconsin.
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He was on his lunch break, chilling in his car, listening to the
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radio, eating lunch, and he just happened to look into the sky and
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he saw this metallic object zigzagging towards his car. He's like, oh,
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that's super weird. And he just happened to have his camera that was sitting
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right next to him. He jumps out of the car and takes a series
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of photographs as best as he could it the thing was zigzagging. And yeah,
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I got two of the photographs out of the I think there was originally
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six or something like that. A lot of his work got like separated too,
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I don't know, but yeah, I was lucky to have two of
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those photographs. Uh So, yeah, that's the story, I guess.
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I think Wendell went and visited Mark and just just got more information of exactly
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what he saw and where he was exactly at and stuff like that. So
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you have two of the pictures from that incident, I do. Oh yeah,
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I want to see him. Do you have him with you right now.
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Uh yeah, I do, but I okay, it's okay, yeah,
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can you show me, I mean if you if you can't, we
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can share the screen if you've got them, but if not today. But
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that's that's really cool. Yeah I had to take them out. Okay,
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it's it's okay, all right, you can show me later about that.
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But yeah, that's that's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's just
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so many different types and different shapes of them. Some of them like that
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one that they got that we just showed the pictures of. You were saying
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that it was moving slow okay, and moving slower than that fighter jet.
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That was a fighter jet, right, I'm assuming that like a still fighter
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Okay, so it's a still fighter jet. A lot of the times when
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people see UFOs, we see something that looks like that, they're like there,
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they move at the speed of light, they're so fast. So it's
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interesting that I think was moving slower than the fighter jet. Yes, and
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in fact, there's more stationary as some UFOs are, you know, just
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kind of hovering on. But yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, what
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do you what do you think? Okay, here's here's a question. What
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do you think about about UFOs coming and going through portals. I believe that's
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very possible. And and being underwater too, there's probably underwater portals and other
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other things. Yeah. We have Burlington, Wisconsin here, it's called the
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Burlington Vortex where if you go to this this place near Burlington, it's a
28:56
forest area. It's actually a woman for her name Mary something that takes people
29:03
on tours to this place where you take polaroid pictures and they come out all
29:08
swirly and they have orbs coming in and out and the other weird things happen.
29:14
That there's bigfoot settings there. There's UFO settings in that area. But
29:18
yeah, just because this is this vortex that all this craziness, maybe there's
29:25
portals that you know, these UFOs or bigfoot are interacting with. Yeah,
29:32
very mysterious, kind of like that portal they say was in that mall this
29:36
week, right, Yeah, right, there's actually coming out. There's a
29:41
guy named Bob from Poland, Wisconsin that claimed that UFOs had been landing and
29:48
hovering over his property for years, so much so where he built a landing
29:52
port for them. So he even has people come visit his landing port and
29:56
he'll tell his stories of like what he he has encountered and stuff. So
30:00
there's a tour. It takes people on tours on his property. It's kind
30:04
of like the schedule Walker Ranch of Wisconsin. Oh. The fact that he
30:10
made a giant spaceport, like it's huge, just calling it in though,
30:15
Like, I don't know how how comfortable I'd be with having a UFO port
30:19
anywhere, owning a property, because the last thing you want to do take
30:23
it for me is calling UFOs to your home. I gotta I gotta tell
30:29
you when I was I'm going to say this is about a year ago,
30:32
maybe two years ago. I got a frantic message from a good friend of
30:36
mine who's on my on my research team. Uh. And he had a
30:38
friend who shall remain anonymous, Okay, but she had been calling in UFOs
30:45
and for fun for her friends when they'd come over to their house and uh,
30:51
and it was all fun and games until the kids started waking up late
30:55
for school and they were dishoveled every morning. And and so they set up
31:00
up cameras around the house outside pointed of the windows facing outside, and they
31:04
started picking up aliens. Grace and she was in a panic and didn't know
31:11
what to do. I don't know why they contacted me, but I was
31:15
contacted to see if I could help, and I was like, look,
31:18
when it comes to ets, I don't know what to tell you. Quit
31:21
calling them in, you know, because once you start doing things like that,
31:26
especially you know, even when people are doing that CE five protocol,
31:30
we do that sometimes with my team out in the field, and you you
31:33
don't know what you're going to be bringing in. And it's just like when
31:37
you're doing a ghost investigation or any kind of paranormal investigation. When you start
31:42
calling things in, you get their attention and they might stick around with you.
31:47
Right. Yeah, Yeah, there's another interesting case. You're here in
31:53
Melon, Wisconsin where the Baker family, a whole group of this whole family
31:59
got to see this UFO land right in their driveway and it was about six
32:01
feet high in it shaped like a turtle, like these little tripido legs.
32:07
But yeah, Phil Baker got it pretty close to it, but his wife
32:12
and kids were all screaming and crying to get away from it. But shortly
32:15
after he did, it shot it into the sky like a rocket. But
32:20
again it it was white, but it had like blue and yellow lights that
32:24
were going around it, and then it had a like a yellow orb orb
32:30
or aura I should say around it, kind of like very very bizarre.
32:36
They were all just totally puzzled, but didn't really leave any trace of evidence
32:40
besides leaving some tracks in the snow. So they did call the police,
32:45
and they didn't really have much to report besides them just being pretty shooken up
32:49
by it. That's cheer. Yeah, that was back in nineteen seventy five,
32:55
seventy five, okay, I don't remember what year it was, but
33:00
around it it had been around the nineteen seventies. Maybe it was even the
33:02
sixties. I don't know. People in the chat might know. But there
33:06
was a case where what people called the Kentucky Goblins, okay, And it
33:12
was a case of a look like a spacecraft had landed crash landed basically in
33:19
kind of in the woods behind somebody's house. And there were a couple of
33:22
families there, and I mean they were basically the house was surrounded all night
33:28
by a bunch of aliens and stuff, and they were harassing the family and
33:31
trying to get in their house, and the men a out there shooting at
33:35
them, and it was wild. It was absolutely wild. But yeah,
33:40
they looked kind of like aquatic looking uf of aliens or something. But I
33:45
don't know. The point is, Okay, there's been reports of like UFOs
33:52
and even alien sightings and stuff all throughout these years. I mean, what
33:57
was the first UFO sighting? I guess it was like Roswell or something.
34:00
Was that was that the first crash reported? I would assume, yeah,
34:04
first crash reported one. Okay, Yeah, that's pretty gnarly interesting. There's
34:09
a lot of crashes that we hear about, and in alien recovery and even
34:15
the oh we may have a special guest here in the studio, by the
34:19
way, but there's even reports of crash retrievals with our military and you know,
34:25
the US military getting getting alien bodies and stuff. I mean, we
34:30
hear about that a lot more often these days. So yeah, oh,
34:35
go ahead, I didn't need to interrupt you, though, You're sorry that
34:37
I was gonna say. Yeah, I was gonna say, there's another case
34:46
up in well Elmwood. This is reported by a police officer named George Wheeler,
34:53
and this was in nineteen seventy five, so yeah, he saw this
34:58
UFO hovering over this uh, it feels like a mining area. Anyways,
35:06
he gets out of his car and gets close to it and he gets hit
35:07
with the blue beam and he just gets knocked out or something. And apparently
35:13
a year later he dies. So I don't know if that was His family
35:17
claims that might have been because of that what he claimed got him sick.
35:22
Is that him getting shot with the blue beam? So that'sous. Wow.
35:29
You never know, Yeah, you never know what's going to happen with I
35:31
mean, there are reports of the crash retrieval people, you know, going
35:36
out and getting the crash retrievals and having like alien bodies and stuff, and
35:39
then people touching those alien bodies taking him to the hospital, they have to
35:43
decontaminate the entire hospital, and the person that held the little body passed away.
35:49
Yeah, that kind of stuff. So yes, I heard that.
35:52
Wow. Well, hey, we have a very special surprise co host up
35:58
here tonight. I would like to introduce to the show to Space Out Radio,
36:01
my buddy Jim Goodall is here, y'all. So we're going to bring
36:05
up Jim and and so I know Jim, I was mentioning at the beginning
36:08
of the show that we Jim contacted me yesterday and was saying that he had
36:14
just sold some of his original photographs and stuff. So in regards to UFOs,
36:20
now Dustin, if you haven't met Jim Goodall before, uh, welcome
36:23
to the show. Jim Goodall our friend, a good friend Space out Radio.
36:29
Hey, how's it Going's going? Hey? Happy New Year? Had
36:36
a fun time last night. It was I mean, I we were with
36:45
Robert Bauer and Terry Terry b mister b of course with and you know,
36:52
Jim Goodall is a good day. There's people who would argue about that.
36:55
No, it's a good day. You're like the top authority, the person
37:02
I know, the one person I know that knows the most about Area fifty
37:06
one and skunk Works and all that. Jim, You've written so many books
37:12
and and you just you were telling me yesterday that you just sold some of
37:15
your collection. Well this is quite some time ago. I was going through
37:21
a nasty divorce. The company I was president of the parent company in France
37:30
pulled the plug on us and they wouldn't let us buy the technology. So
37:35
I just survive. I sold about you know, a little over two hundred
37:38
and twenty thousand original CODO chrome slides. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I
37:45
mean I look back now and I said, oh, Jaez, you know,
37:47
did I have to do that? And and part of me says,
37:51
yeah, I really had to survive. So but I love taking pictures of
37:57
airplanes. I love snooping aro places I'm not supposed to be. I've had
38:04
little red dots on my chest and and I've had you know, a guy,
38:09
a guy came around with his hand on his nine millimeter and I told
38:15
him that he had no jurisdiction of this side of the fence and he was
38:19
a rent a coop. So but I have uh and the way that started,
38:24
uh, I have. I have a lot of very very unique friends.
38:29
Bob Blazar is one of them. I've known him for thirty five years.
38:34
John Lear, the late John Lear, we were very close for forty
38:37
five years until he passed away here last year. And then John Andrews from
38:43
Testers He's going who did the Bob Blazar sports model back in the day.
38:49
And and and the Dreamland Interceptors as we call us. They're about ten of
38:52
us, and we've you know, we've been harassed by the by the local
38:59
authorities from day one. And one of the funny ones, and this was
39:04
after they had vacated the Tona Pod test range. The F one seventeens had
39:09
moved when they went when they went to Saudi Arabia. When they came back,
39:14
they went straight to hallam And Air Force Base and allegedly they put Tona
39:19
Pot test range into caretaker status. I know that was a line of crap,
39:23
because you don't you don't build a multi billion dollar facility in after about
39:28
five years, six years to leave and put it in caretaker status. So
39:34
we were were we observed that there's instead of two perimeters around the flight line,
39:39
there are three. This is now, this is June of ninety six.
39:44
That's a long time ago in real terms. But I'm on the fence
39:47
line with John Lear and it's eleven o'clock at night. We're sitting on our
39:53
lawn chairs. We're watching everything we every night vision goggles on and I I
40:00
see a three armored personnel carriers coming towards us with their lights turned off,
40:05
one coming up from the south, from the west, and from the east.
40:09
And like the loud mouth I am, I stand up and yell real
40:12
loud, hey, we're good guys, we're taxpayers and all of a sudden,
40:15
we get floodlights on us. I had three little red dots in my
40:17
chest. John had three little red dots in his chest. And about the
40:22
same time, there's a vehicle coming down the public land side of the fence,
40:29
and this guy comes around John Lear's pickup truck with his hand on his
40:31
burretta, and he says, you're in a restricted area and I'm ordering you
40:37
to leave. And I said, I don't know who you are, but
40:42
this is public lands and I don't need your permission to be here. He
40:46
says, I'm ordering you to leave. You're in a restricted area. And
40:49
I pulled the aeronautical map out of my back pocket, which I carried conveniently,
40:53
so I can show these guys where the longitude and latitude of the restricted
40:58
area is. I said, wanted this official government map the launching tudent latitude
41:05
to the second or where the restricted area is. And if you look at
41:07
the the base of that fence post over there where my buddy's sitting, there's
41:14
a USGS medallion that gives the longitudin latitude. I'm in public lands and I
41:21
don't need your permission to be here, and I can be here from fifteen
41:23
consecutive days, without your permission, without anybody's permission, he says. She
41:30
said, I want to see some ID. I said, who are you?
41:34
I said, I'm Captain So and So with ASI stood for Advanced Security
41:37
INC. I said, you're rent a cop. You don't have jurisdiction on
41:40
this side of the fence. You could just see his jaws just tighten up,
41:45
I mean his guys pissed. He said, I've been deputized by the
41:52
State of Nevada uphold the laws of the federal government, the State of Nevada,
41:55
Lincoln, Esmeralda, and NY County. I said, well for you.
42:00
So I want to see some ID and I said, I don't have
42:02
to show you a squat. I'll tell you what you show me yours,
42:06
I'll show you mine. So he hands me his ASI badge Advanced Security in
42:09
Patch. I said, sir, that's not a valid form of ID.
42:14
I need something issued by the state or federal government. And very literally,
42:19
he pulled out his driver's license and handed to meet. I didn't have these
42:22
things on oh Okay, so I had mine. I lived in Minnesota at
42:27
the time. Leary lived in Vegas. He hands us to the guy,
42:30
and he goes to this goes to the fence and guy walks up from the
42:35
south side of the fence, hands our IDs to the guy. This one
42:38
guy takes it to one of the armored personnel carriers. We still had the
42:43
floodlights on us and the little red dots dancing around, and the interior light
42:51
goes on in the uh probably the Supervisor's armored personnel carrier, and I hear
42:55
a loud and clear, oh shit, it's good. All in lear and
43:00
the lights went off. The red dots went away, and they dispersed because
43:04
they knew they weren't going to intimidate us out of the area. And I've
43:09
you know, I've had I've had that experience that area fifty one over the
43:15
years I was, I was so well and I was so well known that
43:20
when I would grab up to Tonapaud that's what the one seventeenth were flying out
43:22
of tone protest range, the head guy will come out, would come out.
43:27
His name was Emmanuel and say, jo hey, welcome back to TTR.
43:30
Watch out for critters. There's rattle, snake, scorpions and whatever.
43:35
So I go out there with my launch here and sit back and just watch
43:37
the activities. It's a lot of fun, but you have to know,
43:43
you have to know where you're allowed to be. And actually, as American
43:49
taxpayer, this is our country and your keeping you're keeping me from seeing my
43:54
country. That's not fair. There's a lot of things that aren't fair in
43:59
this world. But that's but I have I've had guys just shake their head
44:06
and oh, good off back. You know, I've had a question for
44:10
you. So Dustin actually is a custodian of some of Colonel Wendell Stevens photographs
44:17
of Eider just chasing UFOs. Did you know, colonel Lieutenant Colonel Wendell Stevens.
44:23
I bet you did it? Did you what? Friends? I know,
44:29
I heard the name. I've never met him, and yeah. One
44:34
of the reasons I said, you know, maybe I should come on is
44:37
that I sold my collection. But that was like thirty five years ago.
44:42
Oh yeah, ye photos. Depending on the subject matter, it's it's really
44:50
really hard to put a praise on him because something you're gonna have to find
44:52
someone who's willing to pay whatever you you think it's worth. Now it's a
44:59
high resolute if it's if it's one of those g whiz photos. Then you
45:04
can probably allow NBC or CBS or ABC or Fox or somebody to use it
45:12
for twenty five hundred dollars if they decide to use it. I can remember
45:15
now this is this is again, this is thirty five years ago. I
45:21
got a call from NBC. You we're using your your shot of area fifty
45:29
one from the top of White Sides and it's going to be on the program
45:32
tonight. I said, well, you didn't ask my permission. Well,
45:37
O, can we use it? I said, it's going to cost you.
45:40
I said, we'll give you two hundred dollars for it. And I
45:43
said pull it because I'm not allowing you to use it. And this is
45:46
the first thing. You see my view of area fifty one, and it's
45:51
going to that's how the thing starts. It said, well, it's we're
45:55
right, we're right in the we're right in the middle. We're ready.
45:58
It's ready to go in the air here in a couple hours. I said,
46:01
that's not my problem. Well, how much do you want? I
46:06
said, twenty five hundred dollars and that's firm. Well and adies, and
46:12
said he said, I'm gonna put you on hole for a few minutes.
46:15
And he said, okay. I said, I wanted him PayPal. Wow,
46:23
I want you to get us PayPal right now. So I gave him
46:28
the information and got a PayPal and pay twenty five hundred dollars came up,
46:32
and I said, you have my permission to use my photo, but you
46:37
must give me photo credit. That's one thing that's irritated me. I've had
46:43
ten thousands of my photos show up in various publications, primarily hobby you know,
46:49
hobby make you know publications like from Squadron Signal and whatever. Things are
46:53
geared towards the model builders, airplane builders, and I don't care if someone
47:00
using my photo as long as they give me photo credit. But they didn't.
47:06
Now I'm also one of the very few people are probably the only one
47:12
on the planet that scrouns the CIA A twelve blackbird and we had to move
47:20
it from California to Minnesota. Didn't fly, and you know, get to
47:24
go across the you know, across the country on the road by having I
47:29
say, Worldwide Aircraft Recovery move it. It's going to be four dollars a
47:32
mile and that's more than we were willing to pay. So I scrouned two
47:38
C five galaxies to move it. I called it the New York here Guard.
47:45
And when we got the okay and he said, the Weavers said,
47:50
hey, when you're ready, you call Wall Hall. So I actually had
47:52
a two C fives to move it. And it's just it's probably one of
47:58
the more fun things I've ever done. And but you couldn't do it today
48:02
the rules. The rules have changed so dramatically. Oh yeah, I bet.
48:07
But it's I've always I mean, I'm the type of guy when it
48:13
when it comes to our government, I have a stick and I want to
48:16
poke them every chance I get, just irritate the hell out of them,
48:21
just because they've irritated the hell out of me over the years. So I
48:23
did. The government irritates just about everybody, for sure, Jim Jim.
48:29
So. Dustin lives in Wisconsin and where they have a lot of UFO activity
48:32
up there. He's seen a lot. He's seen one really good UFO.
48:37
Do you have any advice for Dustin up there? He's a ufologist, he's
48:40
really what could you tell Dustin with all of your experience, if if you
48:46
you know, if you have if there's an area that you see stuff on
48:51
a regular basis or more than once, see maybe two or three times you
48:55
see it in the same journal area. I would I would invest in a
49:00
good thirty five millimeters digital equivalent digital camera. I have a Nikon D eight
49:07
fifty's then forty six megapixels and it's it's a beautiful camera. And I have
49:14
all my lenses because the thing that just drives me crazy is someone will take
49:21
a picture with an iPhone five or an iPhone six and all you see is
49:28
a fuzzy dot. Even when they blow it up, there's no results,
49:30
there's no there's no image. It is just a fuzzy pixel, is what
49:36
it is. And that's that proves absolutely nothing. It could be a drone,
49:40
it could be swamp gas. Who knows. But if you have if
49:47
you have a high, high quality piece of glass and a good digital camera,
49:54
it's amazing what you can you know, what you can draw out of
49:58
it. Because I have I have software that I use when I have a
50:01
soft image. Maybe it's something I shot thirty years ago, forty years ago.
50:07
It was sharp back then, but it's not by today's standards sharp.
50:13
And I have some some software from a group called Topaz Labs that does absolutely
50:21
incredible stuff. Oh yeah, well okay, so Jim, I saw I
50:25
saw last night on your Facebook. Well like somebody had seen you one of
50:29
one of Dustin's pictures actually, uh a national opinion on it. And I
50:32
have some of these pictures. What what do you think about Dustin's pictures here?
50:36
These are from from Lieutenant Colonel Wendell Stevens from I just I got eight
50:45
of those, uh those that series of images yesterday and I went through and
50:52
I uh cleaned up just a little marks there. I leveled the horizon and
50:59
that airplane you see in the ears not an half one seventeen that looks like
51:01
Senior Pig, which was the Lucky Martin competition for the the B two Stealth
51:10
bomber. Very cool, and I cleaned it up. I hit my sharpening
51:19
software and the image of the saucer came up really sharp. It's pretty really
51:23
please And yeah, these are excellent pictures. I mean, I mean,
51:30
if if this is, if this is the quality of the stuff you have,
51:35
yeah, then you have a little gold mine there. Yeah. Yeah,
51:39
again they have the it's got the Kodak watermark on the backside of it
51:44
with the numbers, so everything's legit again, it's very clear right when you're
51:49
holding in your hand. Yeah, they're very yeah. Yeah. The light
51:57
the shadows on the saucer appeared to be correct and consistent. Yeah, I
52:07
mean, I would be more than happy to help you if I can sure
52:14
the one. I'd love to have you on my podcast. That be great.
52:19
This gorgeous woman right over here, actually right over here, he's gorgeous.
52:28
She's a good answer too. You're a good Thank you. Jessica has
52:36
all my information if you give it to Dustins at least and email when the
52:43
program's over, I'll I don't know if I have any more room on friends,
52:49
but on Facebook, but it's Jim Goodall seventy one is the full is
52:53
the full number of name on Facebook. And that's the only form my wine.
53:00
Really. Uh, I've had to be why why don't you do a
53:04
podcast? I said, because it requires an awful lot of work. It
53:08
does, and I and I'm I'm around, I'm running around like I'm a
53:13
one armed paper hanger with my hair on fire, twenty four hours a day.
53:17
And I would much rather give my time to say Jessica or to you
53:27
for an hour or two hours or three I mean a couple of nights ago,
53:30
I was on with the crew. I was on with with Heid Heidi.
53:35
Yeah, yeah, And we went almost four hours. She had she
53:40
had to drop off, but we went almost four hours. It was it
53:44
was it was Robert Bauer, uh, mister b and myself and uh and
53:50
Heidi. It was just fun and and and people said, well, how
53:54
long can you talk? And I said, usually after about ten hours might
53:59
start was in my voice. Been in the chat tonight, I believe so.
54:05
Yeah, I mean I saw, I saw you when I first uh
54:13
h, I s yeah, she's she's a sweetheart, you are. I
54:19
mean, I just I'm not. I'm not a type of person who belongs
54:25
to groups sometimes in the last six months, maybe a year. But this
54:31
this community, the UFO crazies, if you want to call it that,
54:37
and the things that go bump in the night crazies and the Sasquatches and you
54:43
know then you know boof Man's and stuff like that. That you're my people.
54:50
I mean, we're a bit of a weird family. We are.
54:52
We're just a bunch of weirdos. And you know, I was looking at
54:59
the the pranter or the painting you have behind you, I have that same
55:04
one, I think, talking to dust er me. Yes, yeah,
55:09
which one right up in the wall behind you? One? That one,
55:15
that one right there. Yeah, this is an original painting from like the
55:17
nineteen twenties, but I mean I have one that looks very similar. It
55:23
was a moon and uh I love that thing, my mom. I thought
55:29
it an antique store or something in town from some lady painted it in our
55:32
hometown. And I love it because it's it's just like it reminds me of
55:37
being out in the woods looking for Bigfoot. Yeah, yeah, I mean
55:39
that's what. That's what this particular uh one sort of looks like too,
55:45
So it's similar. It's similar enough because that's sort of a spooky scene.
55:50
It's night, it's a full moon, it's dark. You know, it's
55:53
in the woods, you know, which you know what kind of creepy stuff
55:57
is in the shadows. It's at all. It's not so squatch, You're
56:01
so basically you're saying that we both have good taste. We like the same
56:05
kind of art, right, Yeah, we have good taste, all right.
56:07
At one time I was becoming an artist, and I decided I'd much
56:12
rather eat than starves. Me too, Oh my gosh. Well, you
56:19
guys, we have come to the end of the hour, okay, and
56:22
so I want to thank both of y'all from the bottom of my heart for
56:24
being here tonight. Dustin. Tell everybody about your podcast and where they can
56:29
find you, please, and then we're going to go to gym after that.
56:31
Yeah, you can find me on YouTube and Spotify with Flying Chariots,
56:37
their Rise podcasts with my German colleague Danielle Beckmann, and uh, you can
56:45
find me on Facebook, dis Dustin Shoota or Instagram Dustin the Ufologist. Uh.
56:52
Yeah, those are my main platforms. Sweet awesome. You have a
56:58
fantastic podcast with some of the best guest I know. I've been a guest
57:00
on there. I had the privilege of being on your one hundredth episode with
57:07
Yeah that was so fun. And last night Robert, mister b and myself
57:13
had the honor to be on Heidi's very first podcast that was hers last night.
57:21
I watched it. I watched part of it as much as I could.
57:23
She said very well, we're gonna We're gonna cut it right off at
57:27
ninety minutes. I said, good luck on that Merchiser, Bunny, you're
57:36
gonna talk all night. Well so can Robert, and so could mister B.
57:39
I mean, yeah, yeah, it just we're I think it goes
57:44
with the age. I've been around long enough. I have enough stuck in
57:47
my in between my ears that I don't talk forever. You substance though,
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a substance. And every time you come on our shows, every time you
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you come out and talk to us, we learned some, Jim, So
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thank you for that. Yes, thank you. And and you backed up
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Dustin tonight. You you got the you got some major cloud because you've got
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Jim goodall on here. Yes, So it has been a pleasure you guys.
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I want to thank you. I'll so much for being here. Jim,
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please come back and hang out with me again soon, Okay, I
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would love it. And Dustin, do get hold of me, yes,
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I will, yes, and make sure you write your listen name down.
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I'll get you in touch with him, Jim. Don't you worry. Ye're
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definitely having you on our podcast. It'd be great for sure, for short.
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I can see it face to face now. Happy New Year, Happy
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New Year to you too. You are so sweet. Thank you for being
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here tonight. I'll see you seeing Jim Okay, thank you, Jim.
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Okay, all right, Dustin, thank you so much for being here.
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Soon. Okay, everybody go subscribe over to Flying Chariots the Rise on YouTube.
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All right, Dustin, you've been an amazing guest. Thank you for
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sharing those pictures. We'll see you next time. Yeah, all right,
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see you Dustin. All right, y'all. Well, what a fantastic show
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man. That just it just snowballed, didn't it. And and I have
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so much fun here. Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank
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you for being in the chat. Tonight. Next week on Off the Trails,
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I have Floyd Wills who's going to be my guest. He is going
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to be brand new spaced Out Radio, especially well at least on my show.
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And he has written books on the Lovelock Caves, red hair giants,
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okay, and hobbits and all sorts of other stuff. So we're gonna be
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talking about giants and hobbits next week on spaced Out Radio. So until then,
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you guys, please come see me over on my channel, the cryptad
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Huntress. I have some fantastic shows. I might have remote viewed that thing
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that happened at the mall. Okay, so y'all down in my I mean
1:00:00
you guys, come hang out with me Wednesday at one pm Eastern and on
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Thursday at eight pm Eastern. I can promise y'all I'm gonna have some great
1:00:07
shows with some great guests. All Right, y'all, have a great night,
1:00:12
go hang out after hours next and I'll see y'all this week. Bye, y'all.