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Charles Schwab Challenge PGA Leverage Lane | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS | Single-Entry GPP Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the liftop.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Remember one Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and
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  Speaker 2: Tambo Back for another edition of Leverage Lane here on
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  Speaker 2: the ship at Nation YouTube Station. Gonna be breaking all,
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  Speaker 2: breaking down all things the Charles Schwab Challenge this week,
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  Speaker 2: coming off the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. It was Wyndham
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  Speaker 2: week win being the key scenario for him getting the
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  Speaker 2: job done. That was pretty awesome. Got my guy Alex
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  Speaker 2: Blickl here with me as always and we're gonna go
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  Speaker 2: through as usual, talking about not the picks of the plays,
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  Speaker 2: but focusing on the how the process going through, the leveraging,
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  Speaker 2: the chalk build, what the chalk build looks like. This week,
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  Speaker 2: we'll have a little bit of a breakdown Alex's for
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  Speaker 2: a into the three entry max streets last week and
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  Speaker 2: getting that done, and then we will go into some
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  Speaker 2: of the Scotty talk. I think that's interesting for sure,
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  Speaker 2: and then also later on we will have the one
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  Speaker 2: and done the betting breakdown, and then lastly we will
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  Speaker 2: get into our leverage Lane and how we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be attacking it from a single entry perspective. This week
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  Speaker 2: for you guys, Alex, I'll bring you in man, Wyndham
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  Speaker 2: Clark got the job done last week. Scotty third place
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  Speaker 2: nowhere to be found on those winning lineups, though that
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  Speaker 2: did not work out for the Scotti builds at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had some really fun Scotty discussions Saturday night
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  Speaker 3: in my discord, just kind of talking through roster constructions,
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  Speaker 3: like what Scotty lineups have looked like all season, what
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  Speaker 3: they looked like this week, what they looked like in showdowns,
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  Speaker 3: Like even when he's playing really really well, how are
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  Speaker 3: those lineups doing? And the answer is pretty clear that
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  Speaker 3: you know, we've been we've been on the right track
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  Speaker 3: all season, and saying Scotty lineup aren't about Scotty, They're
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  Speaker 3: about the rest of the lineup, and you just can't
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  Speaker 3: build get enough lineups with him. So that was really
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  Speaker 3: cool to see. And and yeah, I loved the wind
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  Speaker 3: and win and uh it was it was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I had him in two of my three
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  Speaker 3: lineups and one of those had a really good chance
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  Speaker 3: and Maddy Schmid ruined it by not making the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people though, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: how many people out there had really good lineups that
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  Speaker 3: were five or six. So you know, it's you can't
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  Speaker 3: just say, oh, if he had if he had just
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  Speaker 3: made the cut, then I would have won all the money,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of people were in that same boat.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's also true that Matty
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  Speaker 3: Schmid had just made a few more putts, I probably
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  Speaker 3: would have wont everything this past We kay, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's like same, this can be true, and so can this.
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  Speaker 2: But also it's like the butterfly effect we always talk about,
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  Speaker 2: like everybody if this then that it's like, well, that
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  Speaker 2: could have happened, because you know that the Masters, when
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna, you know, have a shot
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  Speaker 2: at a million dollars, it was gone very early in
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  Speaker 2: the morning. You're you know, you knew it was a
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  Speaker 2: long shot. It was like a ninety six percent chance
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  Speaker 2: you weren't going to win. But how often you wake
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  Speaker 2: up with a four percent chance of winning it? But
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  Speaker 2: then it's like, okay, as the day goes on, wait
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  Speaker 2: a secon Now I might win two hundred thousand still,
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  Speaker 2: which is better than second place, and the million maker
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  Speaker 2: comes up short wins one hundred and one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty total. It's like you end up having these things
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  Speaker 2: happen where you just don't know how it's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: You said it best. Speaking of best Bez if you
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  Speaker 2: want to add another guy, Bez was a guy five
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  Speaker 2: under did not make the Cup by one stroke. Vince
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  Speaker 2: Whaley did not make the Cup by one stroke. I
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  Speaker 2: had a lineup over on FANDUL that was phenomenal with
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  Speaker 2: Vince Whaley and it's like, man, the guy missed by
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  Speaker 2: one and he had like a five hole stretch where
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  Speaker 2: how do you not make a burdie that course? By
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  Speaker 2: the way, like the guys that failed at that course,
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty crazy. That was, you know, getting torn up.
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  Speaker 2: And I know there was a lot of talk on that.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any follow up on you know, the course.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the way people looked at it of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna make sure they don't go thirty under, and
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  Speaker 2: sure enough they go thirty under, but one stroke better,
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  Speaker 2: one stroke better in their favor of last year because
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  Speaker 2: they didn't get the thirty one this time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, on the one hand, like to some degree
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  Speaker 3: you can't hold it against them because the conditions were
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  Speaker 3: just unbelievable for scoring, Like you can't get a golf
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  Speaker 3: course that soft and have wind die down that much
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  Speaker 3: where it's still warm and nice, and expect anything but
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  Speaker 3: really low scores on the PGA Tour. However, it's also
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  Speaker 3: true that if you're trying to make a golf course tougher,
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  Speaker 3: you don't install a Zoysia grass Zoysa fairways because those
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  Speaker 3: are so easy to spin, especially around the greens. Like
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  Speaker 3: it just you know, guys were getting up and down
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  Speaker 3: from places that like you put them at you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Memorial or or any other golf course where you
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  Speaker 3: have really tight like bent grass lies or even bermutilize
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you're just not able to get the ball as
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  Speaker 3: close as they were able to get them. And like
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  Speaker 3: that's just you know, it's not just about being able
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  Speaker 3: to get up and down from that from those spots.
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  Speaker 3: It's also then really kind of affecting their decision of Okay,
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  Speaker 3: am I going at this pin knowing that if I
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  Speaker 3: miss my spot five yards to the right, I'm short sighted?
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  Speaker 3: Or do I need to take this left to the flag. Well,
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  Speaker 3: if they're if they know if I'm short sighted, I
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  Speaker 3: can just spin it to two feet anyway, Now they're
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  Speaker 3: going to hit the ball to two feet more often,
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  Speaker 3: so it really does change everything and it makes scoring
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  Speaker 3: that much easier. So I really wish if they hadn't
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  Speaker 3: done that. But in terms of like what they did
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  Speaker 3: to the green complexes, I also think they could have
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  Speaker 3: done a better job of selecting pin locations that actually
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  Speaker 3: utilize the slope of the greens and and and doing
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  Speaker 3: so in a difficult way like it seems, especially like
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday where they were using the new slopes of
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  Speaker 3: the greens to funnel the ball closer to the hole
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  Speaker 3: and not pundle the ball away from the hole. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they could have done a lot more with setup.
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  Speaker 3: But with those fairways, like, they're still going to see
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  Speaker 3: low scores most of the time, and they're really going
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  Speaker 3: to need firm conditions and winny conditions for that place
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  Speaker 3: to play as tough as I think they meant for
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  Speaker 3: it to play.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see. That'd be something to definitely consider next
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  Speaker 2: year when we get there, because it's every year is different.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of the memorial, cannot wait for that.
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  Speaker 2: This is a fun week we're still going to get into.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's actually a really fun DFS week because
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of recency bias and like some of
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  Speaker 2: the players that I'll I have a fun one later
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  Speaker 2: that actually involves one of my biases that will be
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  Speaker 2: brought into it that I'm going to ask you, and
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  Speaker 2: just ask the crowd out there if you guys can
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  Speaker 2: We'll bring up the questions you guys have as we
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  Speaker 2: go along. I want to talk about Scotty here in
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  Speaker 2: you know, I made six to six and we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk about your single entry to three max in a minute,
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  Speaker 2: but I made six and six with Scotty not enough inequity. Like,
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  Speaker 2: first off, the good news is like that win equity
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  Speaker 2: could exist on certain weeks, and that's gonna be something
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about in a second. Just it's very unlikely.
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  Speaker 2: And what I always talk about is you have to
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  Speaker 2: let the slate come to you. So going back to
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  Speaker 2: this when I'm bringing up I'll give my two cents,
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  Speaker 2: let me let you chime in. And it's not about
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  Speaker 2: we know Scotty lamps are bad. What I was most
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  Speaker 2: shocked by by the way that he was almost thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent in the twenty five dollars, like ended up getting
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  Speaker 2: way up there and really being I think it was
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  Speaker 2: the highest owned. Actually there are no si Wu and
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  Speaker 2: you know the others that were there, but still twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven percent was quite high. But when you one thing
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  Speaker 2: I noticed though, is like a lot of people came
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  Speaker 2: away from last week and it like maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: their final like finally having their aha moment, Like Scotti
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  Speaker 2: lineups are bad, and that's to me though it was
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  Speaker 2: like a product of the slate. Like the lower seven
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  Speaker 2: k's in the upper six k's did not have a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of options, like they did not rate optimally, They
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  Speaker 2: did not have good top twenty rates top ten like
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  Speaker 2: the projection baked in wasn't good. The Scotti lineups projected
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  Speaker 2: ten to fifteen points less on paper, and he still
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  Speaker 2: got there just because of the FOMO and people not
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  Speaker 2: wanting to miss out on playing Scotty. But it's like
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  Speaker 2: you could see we had it in the stone over
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  Speaker 2: a chip nation. You guys had the same over at
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  Speaker 2: FTN and in your way of looking at it, but like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's what you always talk about. Scotty was twenty. I
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  Speaker 2: think we had him twenty seven percent was our win rate.
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  Speaker 2: It's different every side as their own formulas, but we
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  Speaker 2: had him twenty seven percent win rate. He WU was
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  Speaker 2: like seven or something. He was twenty points behind him there.
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  Speaker 2: But they're optimal rate to show up in the optimal lineup,
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  Speaker 2: which again you're gonna hope for the optimal and hope
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  Speaker 2: for the winning lineup, and you know, aim for the optimal,
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  Speaker 2: come up short and hit the winner. That's the night.
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  Speaker 2: It was the same on optimal. So it's like very
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  Speaker 2: that then you saw, okay, like who else is optimal? Well,
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  Speaker 2: all the balanced guys from like seventy four hundred and
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  Speaker 2: up seventy three hundred I thinkmcgreevy and up, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's like all the guys at the bottom were you
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  Speaker 2: were just gonna pick the best of the best in
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  Speaker 2: with your Scotti and play that that game. I always
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: talking about it, like yachtzie Chef where you got him
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  Speaker 2: the other one exactly right. But it's like that was
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  Speaker 2: the aha moment for a lot of people, and to
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  Speaker 2: extrapolate on it, it's the other side now is like
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  Speaker 2: people like, yep, now I know to never play Scottie again.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like the PGA Championship week with there was
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  Speaker 2: the five k range and that boosted people down and
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  Speaker 2: now it wasn't so obvious like that. That's when you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of make those decisions. But every slate is different,
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  Speaker 2: and I think obviously people love to just label stuff
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  Speaker 2: and say, Okay, that finally was the nail and the
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  Speaker 2: coff and that's the you know, the last straw if
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  Speaker 2: you will, I'm done with Scotty. That just proves he's
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  Speaker 2: unplayable at these prices. Do you have any sort of
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  Speaker 2: thoughts around that or follow up, because I still think
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  Speaker 2: there is topics to be discussed week to week. We
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  Speaker 2: just have to see the numbers first and look at
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  Speaker 2: them and know what we're working with before we can
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  Speaker 2: make these comments.
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  Speaker 3: I both agree with you and agree with people saying that,
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  Speaker 3: like now, they just realize that Scotty lineups are bad.
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  Speaker 3: So the way that I would put it is, of
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  Speaker 3: course you're right that it is slate dependent, and it
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  Speaker 3: is dependent on who's actually available in the sixth you know,
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  Speaker 3: the upper six case, in the low seven case. But
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  Speaker 3: I would also say that who has been available in
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  Speaker 3: the range that you need to play Scotty consistently all
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  Speaker 3: season has been far worse than the type of lineup
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  Speaker 3: that you can build by going more balanced. It's been
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  Speaker 3: true every single week. It's been true in signature events.
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  Speaker 3: It's been true in non signature evans. It's more true.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was maybe like the most true last week,
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  Speaker 3: and so in that regard, I also agree, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it's been the least true in signature events when
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  Speaker 3: those seven k guys are like legitimate good players who
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  Speaker 3: have won on tour, so on and so forth. But
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  Speaker 3: even when it's been the quote unquote least true, it's
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  Speaker 3: still been true. And so I think what I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to need to see before I start really considering playing
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  Speaker 3: Scotty is a change in the way they're pricing the
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  Speaker 3: entire field when Scotty's in. Either Scott needs to come
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  Speaker 3: way down to the point where you're not locked in
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  Speaker 3: the upper six k's in low seven k's, but you're
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  Speaker 3: locked like in the mid to upper seven k's to
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  Speaker 3: use him, or I need to see the five k
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  Speaker 3: range where you know, if Scotty's fourteen and a half,
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  Speaker 3: I need to see a five k range where you
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  Speaker 3: get some quality players now in the upper six case,
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  Speaker 3: like we saw with like Nikolai Hoyguard at the PG Championship,
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  Speaker 3: for example. But even then I would still need to
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  Speaker 3: see something else, and that something else would be that
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  Speaker 3: the really good players, like the guys like Oberg and
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  Speaker 3: Cam Young, Fitzpatrick Rory, I would need them to also
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  Speaker 3: be more expensive than what we've seen, where instead of
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  Speaker 3: living in the nines and tens, they're now living in
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  Speaker 3: the upper tens, low eleven something like that, where yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the balance build is no longer a juggernaut because what
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  Speaker 3: we've seen so far, even in like the strongest fields
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  Speaker 3: where Scotty's the most doable, where you can build a
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  Speaker 3: Scotty lineup where all six guys are really strong, is
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  Speaker 3: you just get like an absurdly strong lineup living in
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  Speaker 3: the nine K range. And then like even if you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the PGA Championship, like sure, Nikolai Hoygard made it
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  Speaker 3: really easy to use Scottie, but you could also use
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  Speaker 3: Nikolai Hoygard in a lineup to just load it up
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  Speaker 3: on the other best players in the field, and so
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  Speaker 3: until it's harder to build the really strong balance build
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  Speaker 3: or it's just significantly easier to build Scotti lineups in
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  Speaker 3: a way that don't affect those balance builds. To me,
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  Speaker 3: there's just no reason to actually go to Scotty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say I agree with everything. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing I'll say is like, to me, the least
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  Speaker 2: difficult week was the PGA Championship, and it's clear why
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  Speaker 2: they added a five K rag that had guys that
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  Speaker 2: had just you know, basically been in the top ten
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  Speaker 2: the week before, and things like like the guys that
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  Speaker 2: were playing well enough at a PGA Championship where we
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: know it can be a little bit more outside or
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  Speaker 2: until your hoar guard point one hundred percent. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that you not only got lower pricing, that's a miss
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  Speaker 2: price like you. I think you called it that week,
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  Speaker 2: say like eight thousand dollars is what you had him
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  Speaker 2: marked at and he was coming in it. He was
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  Speaker 2: his price was sixty eight hundred and well true to
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  Speaker 2: your point that you could build him in a really
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  Speaker 2: good balanced line up too. That was a sneaky way
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  Speaker 2: to do it, but obviously if Scotty had to come
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  Speaker 2: through and hoguard and everything, then it was more likely
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  Speaker 2: you saw it. But that's why to me, that was
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  Speaker 2: like the only real week. And you've been on this
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  Speaker 2: train since week three, whenever we started whatever you call it,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: or like whenever we started this at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the season, Sony Open. I think it's like you've been
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  Speaker 2: saying this since the beginning when the.
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  Speaker 3: First which was Scotty's first week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was against you that week and then
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  Speaker 2: never against you again because it was like that solve that,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: and it was not because of the result. It was
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: the math problem that you had presented that again, using
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: numbers and thinking about this as we do a game
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  Speaker 2: like chess, like poker, like whatever. It's like the numbers
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  Speaker 2: say this. I also think that's an interesting take. You know,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: somebody said here site said, is there a world where
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  Speaker 2: they start juicing other people up? So I'm gonna twofold
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  Speaker 2: this and we'll finalize this. Either think it's part of
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  Speaker 2: the topic, and then we'll talk about your one to
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  Speaker 2: three max four A. But I think it's way more
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  Speaker 2: likely Scotty's price comes down before we see others go up.
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  Speaker 2: They need to solve it that way. That's most likely
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  Speaker 2: how it's going to happen. Also because the results haven't
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  Speaker 2: fully been there. Even though everyone always makes fun of that.
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  Speaker 2: A bad Scotty year is like, oh he's come third
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  Speaker 2: and everything. Man, this guy sucks. He's like okay, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but the main reason is like, Okay, at the US Open,
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  Speaker 2: I get they might do the five K thing again.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we don't know yet, but they might, and then
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  Speaker 2: you'll see like a you know, thirteen to nine Scotty,
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  Speaker 2: a twelve five rory or something like. They'll adjust in
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: that way. So you said, well, they didn't change what
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: you said, Tambo they I thought you said he was
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  Speaker 2: gonna come down like it's not quite that I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: I just I assume that. But what my main point was,
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  Speaker 2: and then I think new ones. My guy Jordan here says,
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  Speaker 2: now everyone has done with Scotty, he'll come in the
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  Speaker 2: next turning around fifteen percent and nuke the field. Still
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  Speaker 2: not be needed. I'm gonna leave this up. Actually, so
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: twofold one that could happen at Memorial right and again,
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: but who knows, like you said, still might not be
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: needed because if they don't, they're probably not gonna do
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: anything with the pricing heavy at Memorial, we'll see, but
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I could still see like a thirteen seven or a
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: thirteen eight, thirteen nine Scotty. They don't bring in the
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: five k range. Yes, there's some good guys at the
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: bottom because it's the Memorial and it's possible, like in
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: the largest fields the Scotty ones get there, but in
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: the normal fields in below, like you know, not the flagships.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, you might see lineups without Scotty even possibly
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: because it's like the best rise to the top, and
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: the best are still gonna live. Like from a full
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: six person lineup are typically gonna live behind Scotty. Again,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: it's all typical and subjective, I get it, but just
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: doting this. But what I'm saying is and why I
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: don't want people to write this off, is because the
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: dream scenario I think for me at least would be
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: if all these things that happen is Scotty doesn't do
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: well at Memorial, They're like, he fails at an even
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: lower number. Let's say he's still nineteen, or there's a
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: reason he gets to a number of Memorial he fails there.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: They do bring back five K range and really good
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: options at the US Open and miss prices and things
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: like that. Scotty's price comes down just a little bit,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: but not much because it's still a major, but people
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: are done with him because of that. That would now
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: be like a dream scenario for me to attack from,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: and again it'd be part of a portfolio process. But
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's what I'm I'm bringing up here why
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: like you shouldn't just write them off completely, but for
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: the most part you probably should, is what I was
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: trying to put it as I'll let you rebuttle that
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: and we'll move on.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this coming from Jordan is honestly a
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: lot like what happened at the X, which is why
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I think from such an early point in the season
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: you also got on board with the non Scotty lineups
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: because what happened at the MX is Scotty one by
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: four I think it was. And you looked at like
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: the you know, the top one percent and top ten
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: percent of lineups and balanced lineups were more likely to
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: be found there than Scotty lineups, and it was just like,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, like Scotty just lapped the field. And
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: what Alex said was still true that the Scotti lineups
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: as a whole just weren't able to really get there
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: at the same rate as really good balanced lineups. And
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: so I think that was kind of, you know, the
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: the initial thing that they got you on board with
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: the Okay, Scotty lineups aren't aren't really the way to
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: go type of philosophy for this season, and that's kind
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: of carried through throughout and and yeah, so like we've
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: seen Scotty come second a bunch.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: The thing that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Really like put the put the nail in the in
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: the coffin for me was we've seen Scotty lap the
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: field in single showdown rounds and still he Scotty lineups
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: haven't been good. And that's when you know, like any
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: six K guy can spike in a given day. It's
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: it's harder for them to spike for a whole week,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: but any of them can spike in a given day.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: So for the for Scotti lineups to still fail when
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: he goes off in a showdown round like that, to
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: me was oh, okay, like this, I just can't be
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: playing Scotty because the odds are so stacked against me
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: if I if I do, even when he plays really well,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and that that to me was like the most telling
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: thing of all.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean typically they're using the winning odds, so
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it's like when his odds at the books, and that's
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: what it's heavily a with. You can typically see it
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: like if you go down the board. Not always, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: some times in like the majority of the time, you'll
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: see like this lines up pretty well. But at the
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: end of the day too, it's not like their tournaments
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: are selling out, so it doesn't really matter whatever happened
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: to me, And this is why, you know, when I
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: made fun of this earlier in the season, then everyone
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: tagged me as if I was like some you know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: savior of getting the non Scotty, I was like, we
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: don't want that. It was like what you said, it
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: was a joke, like we want Scotty to be in there.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That's part of the puzzle. That's what makes it fun.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Look at last week no brainer for Alex, and it's
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a good segue because we're going into him jumping into
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: three Max. I don't know if you added a Scotty
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: lineup in there, but I doubt it, just because we
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: just had these conversations. But it's like automatic and then
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: what do you see? Scotty comes in at like twenty
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: percent in those or twenty one percent. Still he wasn't
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: quite twenty seven, I doubt, but he was still up there.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well one fifth of the field. To you,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: anything can happen. But when you see lock, you have
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to be excited, like the rake's paid honestly, and it
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: sounds weird to say Scotty Scheffer's the rake, but that's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: what so many people get confused by. It's like he
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: came third or second or any of these tournaments that
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he's done well and he's not showing up to you
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, great, those lineups probably aren't beating me
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: yep to start the week, and it's like already in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: good shape because that aighting could happen. You could roll
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: out all three of sixes and Scottie five or six.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: It still don't win, but you would have felt good
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: going in, and that's what people always forget too. We
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: can harp on this only so much, but like your
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: your control ends when Thursday starts. You cannot go out
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and hit the shot for somebody. You'll be like, oh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I would have made that too. Footer. Okay, first, you
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: got to get on tour. Let's talk about that and
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: how you get there. Alex knows a lot about that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It's like it's not an easy thing to do, so
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: making these couch comments doesn't really help. But anything else
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: on that if not, man, you can hop right in.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I want to hear about your journey going from single
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: entry to three max, thought process behind it, how it went,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: not just about the results obviously the process, but what
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: you thought about it, and then yeah, if you want
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to add anything else on that topic, Yeah, I.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Do want to talk about this pricing question a little
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: bit because I think it's worth pointing out like, think
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: of you know, Rory at the PGA Championship. Ory was
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I think, like, was he what was he twelve and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a half or was he like eleven to seven eight?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Regardless whatever it was, he ended up single digit ownership
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: in a lot of single entries and stuff. We have
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: not seen anything close to that yet from Scotty. So
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: from DraftKings perspective, they're putting him at a price where
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of the field, like you know, we I
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: think he got down to like seventeen percent in some
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: single untry and three entries this past week, but for
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the most part, at least a fifth of the field
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: is using Scotti every single week and even most showdowns too.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So from DraftKings perspective, they have yet to put him
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: at a price where the field says, okay, he is
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: clearly too expensive. So until that happens, why would they
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: lower him? And I think part of that too is like,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: think of last year, he was around the same price,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, he was a little bit less, and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I think the overall pricing was a little bit softer that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I think the biggest difference honestly between last year and
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: this year though, is that this year, we have a
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: mid tier, mid tier of stars like the cam Yong's
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Matt Fitzpatrick who keep delivering, and last year we didn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: have that. And so last year Scotty lineups were more competitive.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: They actually did win. Scotty was winning more often so and.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: He was cheaper. I will say, if you go back
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and do this the historic rook look at it, it
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: was like, I know, people like he was still way
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: up there. It's like out the twelve eight makes quite
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a difference from the fourteen nine. Like it's quite a difference,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to be honest, and other people were getting pushed down.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: They did the five k a lot more last year,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: by the way, too, that came up. So there's a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lot of things you could look back at last year.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: But I think it was a good call out for sure.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Well and last year last year, like Scotty was annoying, right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Like if you remember, if you didn't have him, it
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: was annoying. If you did have him, it was annoying
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: because like you pretty much had to just play him
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: every week because like the mouth was the same on
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it every week. So either you felt like, oh, every tournament,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I'm just picking Scotty And then seven k players, and
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I can't ever like have a variance in my lineups,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and you know, people like playing different guys, which is
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: why you know, the signature event model has been such
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a bummer sometimes for DraftKings, But last year, like that, man,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: if you weren't playing him and you were getting that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: variance in your lineup from one week to the next,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: then every single week you were just so annoyed by
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the fact that they're Scotty at forty five percent owned
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: winning the tournament again, like I can't get away from
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: this guy. So yeah, I think this year, even though
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: we felt like, even though we've probably felt like we
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: can't play him ever and we haven't played him ever,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: like it's been a more enjoyable DFS experience feeling like, Okay,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: i can x out Scotty instead of feeling like I'm
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: in a fade of forty five percent owned thirteen thousand
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: dollars Scotti Scheffler and probably be dead when he makes
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: three straight forty footers to take a fourth stroke lead
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: on Friday. And so I think from that perspective, like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm I'd much rather have DraftKings price him this way
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: than the way it was last year, but there probably
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: is a middle ground that's even better.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll find and Sean, if you were watching since
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the start, I think you've been here. It's like, this
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: is literally my point I'm making. I don't view him
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: as anything until I see this late at hand. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: understand what you're saying the concept like, well, it sounds
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: like because any six K player could spike, and we
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: know Scotty's one good round could crush great, but I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: still want to look at it. I don't know. No
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: one ever should be moving or shaking without a process
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: at hand, and my process is to wait until the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: information comes out to process to then move forward. And yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it makes sense from a just general concept, but those
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that fall into traps are the ones that do general
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: concepts and not taking the slate as it comes to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you with what if there's a weather advantage in Scotty
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Wald he's not, then I don't view Scott he has
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a showdown play for that round because it doesn't make
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: any sense for me. He's in the afternoon. I want
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to play morning guy, like, there's literally everything that you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: can do, but from the classic slate you will have
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to wait. And I think honestly, you know, like I said,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I was with Alex a week late, but he was
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: there a week sooner at American Express saying this already
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: for the season, taking all the information at hand and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: seeing why and using it for math and trying to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: figure out the game like we do. I was a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: week behind, but I will say it was it was
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: kind of set up where like we got to see
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: what the season brings. I think only the PGA Championship
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: right now was a realistic opportunity, and the reason being
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: because it was set up where there was a five
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: k range, there was extreme miss prices, and it was
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: deaf possible that Scotty comes through. It was like a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: balanced more across the five k up to his range
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, this could be him, and then
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: he just didn't. He didn't result in a good finish.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: But if he had a it would have been a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: much better Scotty week than we've seen all season, because
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: then there would have been more combinations that got through
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with it. So let's move on. Let's go to your
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: one to three max journey here and just talk to
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: me a little bit about that. Obviously went through last week.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You don't really have to rehash heavily there, I don't think.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But just like for the setup of and yeah, don't
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: play Scotty this week, good call there a lup big
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: end below this week and Ricky Fowler and j T
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and Russell Henley, We're going back in the day here. Boys.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: But I will say and girls, but I will say,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: what is the thought process now from you know firsthand?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: If you say, like, look, man, my first thought that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: would come to mind jumping from one to three? Max,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I felt this or I thought this, what's your big
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: takeaway right away?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So one of the things that I'll point to is
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I talked last week about I made the point that
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting to play my three entry like a
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: single entry last week, where I wanted like multiple kind
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: of paths, and to some degree I ended up doing that,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: but I also had a more tight player pool than
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: what I was expecting. And the reason was and actually
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: this kind of gets to one of the things that
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you have said kind of over the weeks this season
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that really resonated with me and made me think, okay, yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: maybe I should give you know, three entry a little
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: bit more of a try, which was if you feel
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: like you have a specific edge on a slate, give
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: yourself multiple chances to actually take advantage of that edge.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: And so for me, like I looked at this late
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: last week in my my overriding opinion was there's a
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: chance to just go all in on really good scoring
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: bombers who are under owned in the mid tier and
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: like that, that to me was the edge. And so
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: we had guys like Keith Mitchell, Wyndham Clark, Rasmus Hoyguard,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Michael thorpe Jornson, Pearson, Coody. You know, there was there
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: was a big group of those players, and obviously you
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: couldn't use all of them, and so I ended up
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: doing was coming up with a mix of them. Max
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Grazerman was another one, Tylor Pendrith was another one. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: so my best lineup of the three ended up being Mitchell, Clark, Pendrith, Grazerman,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Taylor Moore and Schmid. So Pendrid finished at eleven under
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: forty seventh. My second worst player was sorry, my third
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: worst player was Taylor Moore in fourteenth one hundred and
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: eleven and a half DraftKings points. Obviously, Whendam Clark was awesome.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: When sixty six Grazerman won eighteen and a half, just
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: scored like crazy, and Mitchell won twenty five and a half,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: finishing fifth. So that lineup finished thirteenth in the two
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars with the Schmid miss cut. Schmid
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: losing about four strokes putting in two rounds as one
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: of the best putters in the field drove me absolutely crazy.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: He missed like four or five from inside seven feet
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: in the last ten holes. It was just brutal, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: point being like, I went in on this thought of
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just give me the bombers who score, and I got
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: as many combinations of those players as possible. One of
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: them came really close to getting there, Like there was
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: nothing to tell me that Wyndham, Pindrith, and Mitchell are
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: going to be significantly better than Thorp, Bjornson and Coody,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: for example. But because I had multiple chances at it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I was able to land on that correct combination. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: so that to me was my big takeaway, was like
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I can still play my style of quote unquote single
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: entry in three entries where I'm going all in on
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: one thought and I'm just using the extra entries to
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: diversify the weakest part of the lineup or to get
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: more combinations of guys where it like the decision is
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the toughest and so that to me, I really enjoyed,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: and that also worked in Showdown. I had chances to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: win Saturday and Sunday Showdowns as well, had less of
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: a sweat on Friday Showdown, but still did pretty well,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: So I really liked it kind of throughout the week.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: The one thing I think I might change is I
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: might be less strict about like I specifically want three
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: entries and a little more just i'll play two, I'll
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: play three, play four or five, whatever, and just let
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the available contest dictate that. So looking at contests for
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: this week, like there were two seventy dollars satellites for
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the US Open available, so I might just do two
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: lineups this week and have those two chances then also
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: play them in the thirty seven. The one thing I
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: didn't love about in the three entry, especially for Showdown,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: was I felt like I either had to dramatically increase
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: how much I was playing for each Showdown round, or
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I ended up needing to pick one lineup for the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: seventy dollars satellite, or I just needed to bail in
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: the seventy dollars, just have three lineups in the thirty
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: seven dollars, And now I'm once again feeling like, Okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: did I actually improve my chances of winning a ticket
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: because I'm playing three and trying to win, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: out of one hundred and thirty seven people versus my
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: single intry where I'd have one lineup against sixty seven ors.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's seventy two people, And so I didn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: love that as much with a showdown, and I might
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: go play single inuntry in round three, round four, depending
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: again on the satellite, So may be being a little
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: bit less locked into three entry and more just let
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: me let especially like the satellite availability, dictate what I'm
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: gonna play in how many line if I'm wanna play.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty interesting, I think obviously. The you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I love the takeaway of like what you know. I've
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: talked about forever about people like you, you know, if you
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: have some sort of edge, by the way, like I
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: think you should just play single entry because you being
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in more tournaments that I'm also in is not ideal
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: for me or anybody out there that's listening. Is obviously
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: extremely sharp and able to find your way around those,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: like when you're talking about the same cues that we
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: play a lot of for satellites like the seventies and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: thirty seven. So the Showdown comment at the end there
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was interesting so for me, and it's it's funny he
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: said it because this is what sucks. Usually I say, like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: whatever I do, and typically you can you could scale
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: up or scale down. I know tons of people my
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: friends that play thousands, ten thousands, one hundred thousand, depending
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: on what the slate, like the some of the top
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: proso they're playing one hundred brand on a Sunday in NFL,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, I know them and talk to them
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and hang out with them and stuff, and it's like, well,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that's not me. But then there's other people like well
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I only play one hundred bucks on a total sunday
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: of NFL, And then I'm in the middle somewhere. It's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like that's the point where in golf like this, like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: you said, it's unfortunate in Showdown, I can't really give
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a scale down. And there's also, by the way, not
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: really a scale up plan like you if you look,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: if you scale up. So I'll tell you mine first,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I play the four in the thirty seven dollars for sure,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I offer that because I want more lineups, I put
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: them all in the twenty five dollars for the flagship.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: If I play more, I play more than the twenty
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: five dollars and the five dollars and that, And then
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: also I play one hundred dollars single luntry, the thirty
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: three dollars single entry, and then I'll usually put a
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: couple of those four the other two in the fifty
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: five dollars, and I just pick it based on my
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: strategy and how I look at things, of which one
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: is the strongest for each field and all of that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: But my point being, there's not really a scale down plan,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: like kind of you could play four in the five
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: dollars and four in I don't know, Like there's like
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the satellites are so bad. It's like thirty seven is
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: kind of the minimum. And then for scale up, it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: what you said, you almost have to be a single
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: undry player or a two max I guess if you
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: wanted to call it. But it's like if you play
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: there's a thirty six hundred dollars f FGWCQ or like
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: twenty four hundred dollars, like, I'm not playing that, So
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: it's like that to me, there is no real scale
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: up or down plan there, So it might be to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: your point that you do just have to get set
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: on saying, look, I'm either gonna enemy based on I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, a morning wave edge and the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: five dollar fits my bill, I'd rather put twenty in that,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: or I feel like the slate coming to me says
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: this is the lineup. You feel good about it, It
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: hits all your metrics, it's what you want all right Now,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play that in the one hundred dollars single entry,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: or I'm gonna play one lineup and play it in
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the fifty five dollars and the thirty seven dollars Q
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and I'll get like decent money in a ticket or
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: however you want to shake it out the five dollars
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: in case it hits for ten K or five K.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, that's how you can move it around. But
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I know, and I understand it's not very scalable up
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: or down from how I presented my plan, which on
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the main sight, you can always find a version.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Of that, yeah, which honestly is one of the most
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: frustrating things about the DraftKings product because a couple of
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: years ago, like even last year, they were a lot
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: better about this, right, Like every single slate, every single showdown,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: we had satellites into the next big one. But we
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: also had like nine dollars satellites into a five five five,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: just a generic five five five. And so maybe maybe
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: what we should do is we should try something. We
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: should see just how much power we have here on
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: this show. If anyone's watching, if you have a DraftKings
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: vip rep, ask them to pass along the note that
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: you'd like to see more you know, low dollar satellites
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: to get you know, more more people, because, like quite frankly,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: even if you're somebody who doesn't foray into those contests
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: because you are a larger dollar guy and you're you're
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: always joining like one hundred and seventy six dollars satellite
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and not even worry about this thirty seven, it's still
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: better for you in the overall DFS landscape for everybody
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: to be as enthusiastic and participating in DFS as possible,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: and that will happen the more like good contests and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: good options are available for smaller dollar people. So if
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you have a vip rep, do that, and if you don't,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: maybe just send a message to Support and say, hey,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: i'd love to see some some nine like the generic
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: nine dollar qualifier satellite that's in the lobby right now
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: for the main slate, Just say i'd like to see
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: that each showdown as well. Things of that nature. Right
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Like in Baseball, every single day there's a one dollar satellite,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: sometimes even two for the one hundred and twenty one
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: dollars single entry that they feature every day. Maybe we
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: could get some satellites in PGA for like the two
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars singles. You're one hundred dollars single luntry. So yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I think contacting support, contacting your vip rep, that's probably
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the best chance we have of doing that. I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: that would dramatically improve PGA contests because it does seem
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: like they've been a little bit lackluster about those offerings
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: this year compared to previous seasons.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And the one hundred dollars generic single undry tickets a
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: great idea because they already run the nine dollars into
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the one twenty one. Like you said, for MLB, it's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like that's a standard tournament that they're always gonna run. Even
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: if it's one hundred dollars generic with a one year expiry,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be so much. It could be the million
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: makers they eventually use it for to help fill those
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: late It could be the one hundred dollars most peoplere
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: gonna use the next day, one hundred dollars single undry,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: all those factors. But I guess my point also, Well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: the other thing there is like, well, it's take quickly
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: VIP at DraftKings dot com.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Blow them up, there you go. The other thing about
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: this is I think it's also just really smart for
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: DraftKings business, because what happens when someone like, imagine you're
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: somebody who plays five dollars a slate and one of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: those dollars gets you in it every day tries to
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: get you into one hundred dollars single luntry, and then
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you win a ticket into one hundred dollars single untry,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: and with that one hundred dollars single luntry, you finish.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Let's say fifth you make one thousand dollars. Do you
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: think you're still gonna play five dollars slate or you're
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: gonna play twenty five dollars slate now, right, Like this
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: is how people scale up. And the more casual players
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: that you allow the opportunity to scale up, not even
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't even use casual, because sometimes people can be
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: really really serious and good DFS players and they just
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: play lower dollar. That's just what they're comfortable. They feel
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: like that's just the more responsible thing to do. All
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: the power to them if they feel just as comfortable
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: and just says, you know, responsible now, playing fifty dollars
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and then one hundred dollars and then five hundred dollars
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: is slate because they continue to progress through satellites and
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: through getting these you know, really big days because they're
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: playing everything the right way and they're going through satellites
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: and building their bank. So that way, that's great for draftkinks, right,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: And the more people you give that opportunity to, the
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: more people are gonna end up playing at higher stakes
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: than they currently do. And again that's how draftkins makes money.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: So I think it's not just something that like we
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: as players would enjoy, but I think it's also like
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: legitimately smart for their business.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously we know DFS a smaller part of their
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: bankroll or what they're rolling with over there with the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: sports betting side, but just noting it. That is the factor,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Like sites asked, do they not have issues feeling these
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is that making the less need for it doesn't really
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: matter because honestly, it's not rocket size. Anybody these days
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: can see a back end. They'd be able to see
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: how many people are sitting on five fifty five tickets
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and then be able to appropriately size the next major
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to say we should make this a five fifty five.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: These people will burn their tickets. We can make it huge.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It's the way to make it look good, good marketing,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and then boom, we do the next thing from there.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It's not really that, but they're they're raking those tickets,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: so you know, like they're still making money off those
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: off those qualifiers. It's not like every time they you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: they give out a seat it hurts their bottom line
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: for that contest. It's the same sort of thing. It's
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: just a better experience.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move on. At the halfway point, we'll get
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: into the Charles Schwab challenge. I know, a ton of
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: rain coming in is like the first piece of conversation
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: that everybody's talking about it looks I believe you can
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong it's one way or the other.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: But I believe it looks like a little bit calmer
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: wins from what I've seen higher tempts, maybe even than
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: in the past. Like it feels like it's like seventies
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: to nineties, seventy fives to nineties versus we've seen the
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: sixties show up here in the past. So I don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: know what's your first take on the weather, I guess,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and then we don't need to bring it up for
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: this one, but the weather, and then maybe bring that
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: as a segue into course fit and how you see
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the general course fit, and then any extra additional thoughts
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you have on like how this weather might affect it
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: as well. And I do think we'll see maybe I'm wrong,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: but might see preferred lies going in right round one.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I definitely want to be surprised if
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: we do, because there's been a ton of rain. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: think there's gonna be even more rain before before things
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: kick off. Yeah, so I very much agree with what
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you said there. I think it's gonna be softer than
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: we usually see it. We're now two years removed, I believe,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: from new greens, so they should be really receptive, Like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I was surprised about how receptive the craig Ranch greens
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: were considering they replaced greens a year ago. So I
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: think we're gonna see really really soft conditions, Like they
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: might even be so soft that the thing for scoring
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: that you want to avoid is backpins, because it might
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: be really hard to hold backpins and everything's just gonna
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: spin back to the front. But yeah, so I think
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: that plus calm wins, we should see a lot of
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: scoring again this week. And from a course fit perspective,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: it is worth noting this is a golf course that
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: typically really mutes the performance or the importance of driving,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: where both distance and accuracy off the tee are less
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: predictive than usual. Here spike to approach play, spike to putting.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: This is almost it's like the typical birdie fest, even
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: though this isn't typically a birdie fest where you see
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: most of the emphasis on approach play and putting. This year,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: with the softer conditions, with less win than usual, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: think we could see a bigger boost to driving distance
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: than we typically see here. Because number one, it's easier
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: to control your ball when there's no wind. Number two,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the lack of runout in the fairways should make length
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: more of a priority. Will certainly make the golf course
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: play longer. So I think that might be one of
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: my routes this week, is just putting a little bit
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: more emphasis on driving distance than what the field is doing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And do you think that goes with what Briant was saying?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're tying into here and just saying
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: that maybe over emphasizing that. It's like average distance has
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: gone up significantly here since the redesign. It says that
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: just you know your follow up thought or is that yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I think so.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Here's my main point about accuracy. And this actually gets
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: back to strokes sane driving accuracy that we talk about.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: So like at the PGA Championship, I talked about how
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: driving accuracy can be more important than usual, and you know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: sometimes people don't see that because they're using percentage of
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: fairways hit. This is actually where I think people are
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: overestimating the importance of driving accuracy. Why because distance matters
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: less than usual. Percentage of fairways hit is inversely correlated
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: with driving distance. So when distance doesn't matter as much
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: as usual. It's automatically going to quote unquote push signal
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: two percentage of fairways hit. Even when driving accuracy, the
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: skill of accurate driving itself doesn't really help. And so
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: this is one of those weeks where I think people
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: are emphasizing off the t accuracy, not because accuracy is
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: actually important, but because they're they're just getting this inverse
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: signal to driving distance, which doesn't matter. So when that
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter, it automatically pushes up, you know, driving accuracy
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: in that way as as percentage of fairways hit and
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: not the actual skill. So in that regard, like I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: think driving actually doesn't matter as much this week, that's
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: what we see. We see like a twenty six percent
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: decline in the predictive value of driving accuracy here. However,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I think like you can even say that maybe that's
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: going to go down even more this year. If distance
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: does matter more than it has in the past, there's
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: also a chance that maybe they both matter a little
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: bit more than usual, because you get the full benefit
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: of distance when you're at least like keeping the ball
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: in play. So there are lots of kind of ways
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: that it can play out. But I think the part
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: that I'm actually confident is that distance will be more
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: predictive this year than usual. A colonial that doesn't necessarily
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: mean that it's really important, because typically it's less important
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: than usual. Maybe just gets back to baseline or something
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: like that, but that would still be you know, a
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: potential edge de lean into.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, and that kind of answers with
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Kyle's asked right why we could see a boost to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: driving distance here. So that's no really solid stuff coming in.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it as we get to the builds.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I'm most curious now as we segue into the next
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: part here, I'm talking about what the Chalk build looks
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: like and what you think here because what I'm seeing
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: early on at least, and again it's it's not quite early.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: We're a Wednesday morning now, but you know, just looking
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: at some of the let's use like a let me
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: use mm just to see like what we're looking at here,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: like Ludwig, who else Putnam, maybe Novak, Eric Cole, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: yella Bez. I don't even know if there's gonna be
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: floplag on Bez. People might just go back there because so, like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: how are you sort of seeing I'm gonna pull up
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: on my side. But how are you seeing the chalk
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: build play out here?
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I definitely think it starts with Oberg. We've got him
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: at forty four percent right now in single entries, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I think forty five percent in high stakes. Just he's
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: been playing so well, and I think like the guy
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: who is going to quote unquote fit the course the best,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: as most people see it is going to be Russell Henley.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: But people don't want to spend ten thousand dollars on
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Russell Henley because he you know, he he he won
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: an API last year, but other than that, he hasn't
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: contended a ton. He's been top ten, top twenty, top five, plenty,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: but as like people's top spend like, they just don't
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: like him that much. So we've got him at twenty
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: four percent, And I think if people were purely going
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: on course fit and what the numbers are telling them,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: it'd be more like thirty thirty between Oberg and Henley.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: But I just think people are gonna be much more
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: excited to play Oberg. At ten to five, it's easy
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: to fit him. The seven k range is kind of
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: loaded this week, and so I don't see a ton
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: of chalk beyond that, like in the sense where of
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I don't see anyone getting to twenty five percent or
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: thirty percent. Yeah, we had Ricohowe and Jordan Smith last
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: week who were very very popular. I don't think we're
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: gonna get anybody quite to that range where I see
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: starting at like eighty five hundred, Rio Hasatsine Sung, Jay Meisner,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Harmon Girard bez Novak, Yella, Miraju Putnam, a little bit,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Doug gimm Eric Cole. Right now, I'm not projecting much
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: ownership at all for Rico Howe and Jordan Smith, But
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: like that is just surprising to me that I haven't
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: seen any indications that they're gonna be popular, because they
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: were really popular last week, made the cut, how we
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: played pretty well on the weekend. So I think there's
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: just there's so many options in this mid range and
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: in the even in the value range, and there are
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: so many ways to build through that range that there's
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: just like it's just really unlikely that anybody in this
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: range gets crazy popular.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm going down low, like I'm just looking
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: at the stone here, our stuff's all initials. I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we're close anyway, you said you had Ludwig on your
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: side around twenty four. We've got him pushing almost twenty seven.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: These are initials that came out yesterday. We'll have a
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: main today forty.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Four for Ludwig.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, you've got it away, so we'll see again like
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in the in the update today, we'll have it there.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: But obviously he's gonna be our highest owned as well.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Who'd you say you said Rio? For sure? I think
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: he fits all the metrics and he's popping in ownership
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: here Putnam, I think looks like he'll be pretty popular.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's like Fie now Novak, Tom Kim, Like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: where do you think these lower guys that to push
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: us into the common building. I'm just trying to see
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: who we could round this out with as an idea.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mean beyond Rio, let's see, I
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: think Harmon seventy eight.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Grazerman?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe where do we have Grazerman? What is his price?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Seventy nine hundred right now?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm surprised that we have him as
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: low as we do, both projection wise and ownership wise.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: We only have him an eight percent, But I think
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: like a lot of it is. You know, there's uncertainty
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: here where are people gonna play more course history are
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: are they gonna play more course fit or are they
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: gonna play more This guy just played well as a
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: popular guy. So like all these guys I think have
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: a bit of a wide range of outcomes where like
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: you can throw Grazerman, Howie Jordan Smith, dug Gim a
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: little bit, Echroed a little bit into this same bucket
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: of guys Taylor Moore, Stephen Jaeger as well of guys
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: who like the field might just say, hey, this guy's
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: low owned, he played really well last week. Why don't
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I just use him again this week? And all of
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: them could come in, you know, at ten percent, fifteen
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: percent when people are expecting five percent, and they'd be
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: really surprised on that. But we do see that kind
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: of range of outcomes for a lot of these guys
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: in this type of field when there are this many options,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: and you know, ownership projections are largely going on projections,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: they're going on field, so it can be it can
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: be hard to narrow things down in this range. But
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I think from a pure projection standpoint, just looking around
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: the industry, bez Novak, Putnam, Yella, Miraju, Eric Cole. Those
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: are the guys that I think are most likely to
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: get ten fifteen percent ownership.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try these three
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: with Oberg, just to see where this gets you that
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: leaves you eighty five fifty. Do you got any take
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: on this like bottom nine K, Like is it ax
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Shay Smally spawn Griffin? Who's the one for you that
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: really pops off the page there?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Griffin Spawned smally All kind of pushing twenty percent? I
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: think probably slips in the cracks. And then I think
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: the the two guys like in the nine K and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: up range who just I have a really hard time
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: seeing them getting much ownership are McIntyre and Hindeki Metsiyama.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And a lot of that just has to do with
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, we know we've got some
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: ownership on we know we've got plenty of ownership on Oberg,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: we know we've got someone Henley, and we know we've
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: got a good amount on both JT and Faler as well.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Like that's kind of a non negotiable. I think you've
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: got to give those guys plenty of ownership when you're
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: trying to project what this field does, and that just
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: leaves both McIntyre and Hindecki kind of in a no
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: man's land because you've got McIntyre sandwiched, you know, between
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Obert Kenley Thomas Fowler, and then you've got Hitdeki sandwich
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: between Thomas Fowler and that Griffin spawns smally even throw
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Akha into that group as well. So yeah, I think
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: those are the two I'm confident are gonna slip with
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: the cracks, and like frankly, I'm probably gonna be most
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: interested in those two as a result.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think, like j T.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Ricky will still get some love for sure. And then
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I think in the eight k's even like I had
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: one version of this instead of like Ricky and Tom Kim,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: it could be like Coody and his Satsune right with
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Rio there, Like those two guys both pop a little
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: bit and project decent, so they could fit in first time.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: For in a while, I'll say this where I think
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: there's like double eight K lineups, like enough of them,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: because when you think about that range with where people
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: can go, I don't think any of them are to
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: be super popular, but you never know. With like Keith
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Mitchell off of a good week hall by the way,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I think, do we have Keith Mitchell one and done.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: We'll get there later. But yes, we ended up going
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: with him. That was a solid call that that worked
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: out good. We picked the good Keith Mitchell week. But
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: like Cootie hall Rio who we talked about, will definitely
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: get love sung Jay playing much better golf right now,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: last two of his last three events and a lot
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of around the green and stuff. Sure, but just noting it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: So I actually think it's the first time. And even
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: if you've got like Thigala or Meisner getting some love
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: down there, I do think we'll see more lineups with
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: two A K. But this is the lineup I came
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: up with off of what we talked about for like
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Ricky being pretty popular too, I think right, And yes,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Tom Kim could be Taylor Moore. To your point, if
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: people want to go more erasmus, it could end up
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: being that people go to Doug Gim with a Justin
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Thomas instead of a Fowler and Tom Kim. Like you
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Justin Thomas Doug Gim or Fowler and Tom Kim it's like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you know, any of these combinations fit, but I think
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: something along the lines that obviously your BEZ could be
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: harmon or your Novak could move down or whatever. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: this to me feels more like the common build. But
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I do think that the eight K double eight K
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: build is not super far behind this just based off
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of that. Is that something you agree with?
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, And I think you know, obviously, like
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: the next place we go to is how to kind
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: of pivot off the truck build er, how to leverage
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the truck build And I think this is a week
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: where honestly, we have a ton of options because when
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I look at the like the quote unquote value of
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: this truck, I don't think it's that strong. And so
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I think this is one of the weeks where if
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: if you want to make your quote unquote lane simply
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: pivoting off chalk to guys that are low owed and
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: you think are just better plays, I think this is
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: a week where that actually is like a really viable path.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: And it's also harder to kind of pivot away from
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: it from a construction perspective, because as we're kind of
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: talking through this, there are just a lot of different
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: constructions people could build here right Like you could go
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: one stud and then into the eight K range, you
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: could go two studs, could even try and fit three
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: nine K guys together. I think the field really has
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: ways to play almost every single possible construction through all
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: pretty popular plays.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I think in terms of like how we pivot this week,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I think there are crazy amount of options and there's
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: there's not necessarily like a dominant option in my mind
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: at least right now.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you know, to me, it comes
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: up pretty clear. It's like those two, but it's just
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like what versions of them? Very hard to tell. But
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: that's why the next part, which we could segue to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: now is most important. It's like take it for what
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you will, and what we just talked about on those
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: are the chalk builds. It's like, again, no going the
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: exact one. By the way, that was another thing I
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: think last week they tagged us in. I gave him
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a little kobe to shaq al r ip kobe Ali
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: oop there of me and you, but we had you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I talked through it and you're like, no, this will
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: be the one, and you pegged it perfectly. It was
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the most duplicated lineup with the finish out that you
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: put on it. So good call on your part there.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be different this week. It's like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: we don't have the exact duplicated lineup to give you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and say this, but where we went definitely, you know
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: my first thought on that, I think one.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I think the other thing is like if you put
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: that that lineup back in you don't necessarily have to
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: because it's just a quick point here. But like last week,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: if you took the truck build, you threw it in
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: there and you said, Okay, what's a two v two
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: that people can make? All the two v two options
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: that people were most likely to make put people in
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the same type of roster construction. This week, you can
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: make any like two v two that remains, and you
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: can turn it into just about any roster construction that
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: you want, where you could take you know, any of
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: those you know seven K guys and you can go
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: eight case six K. You can take Fowler and one
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: of the seven K guys and you can make it
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: eight K eight K. You can take a Fowler and
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: turn him into Henley and now you're getting an eight
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: K guy or you're either getting a six K guy
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: instead of one of the sevens, or you're taking one
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: of the upper sevens and making a low scent like
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: you can literally turn anything into a two v two
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: away from a different build that's still really chalky. And
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: so I don't think people are being pushed into specific
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: roster constructions this week in the way that they were
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: last week and the way that we've seen most weeks
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, And that's part of like, you know, when
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: we talk about this all the time, Like I just
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: did the version you said, and I took out it's
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Ricky and Tom Kim, or Ricky and Yella, or it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: j T and Doug Gim like we said, but it
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: also could be Russell Henley and Max McGreevey, who again
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: that would be the real flop flag here probably has
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: a projection typically that's really solid in this range. But
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people will end up
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: going back to after he failed last week at seventy
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: three hundred. But it just would note you could, but
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: like this is not that different. You still have Ludwig,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you still have Beds. You said, this goes back to
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: whether it was last week or the week before when
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: you explained the concept of like the TWOV two versus
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: you know, everybody else being like, well, I've got a
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: different one, It's like, no, it's actually you do have
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a different TV two for sure, but you do not
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: have the different four v four, which is your bigger problem.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's it's not what you think it is.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: It's like, yes, you made two pivots to one percent
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: owned guys, and sure anything could happen and it could
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: come through. Shout out to my guy Kevin Garnett. Anything
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is possible, gift. Everyone knows that one. But it like
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: anything's possible. But it's not really about that. In playing
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: the game of like looking at it from that perspective,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: it was like, now you have four guys the same
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: as everybody else boxed in. So what that your two
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: are slightly different. That's gonna suck. I promise you. I've
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: had this sweat a bunch before, and you know, before
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: getting into lineup construction, this heavily and doing all this
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: stuff back in the day I'm talking about where it's like, man,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: why am I not gaining any steam here? Like all
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: my guys just crushed. Oh yeah, they're all twenty percent owned.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: It's like, that's that's what you don't want to be
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: involved with. And it's the same way I've talked about
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: it before too, and like qualifiers and satellites and stuff.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: How I talk about playing to win. Everyone's well, don't
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you always play to win? No, I'm saying, like it's
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a winner take all. I'm not going to tighten up
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: just because it's it's, you know, a smaller field for example,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: because like I make less. What I want is separation
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: and a lot of it. So I'm gonna look for
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: unique angles and ways to attack it. And this happened
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: to me again back in the day a bunch in
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: King of the Beaches. I've got trophies from those in
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: NFL and for Golf in the Fantasy Golf World Championship,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: and it's like, man, it's kind of like a cash game. Okay,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: let's do this, and then you play the exact same
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: lineup as everybody else and you're two v two away,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and then you have to just ride that freaking bubble.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: On Sunday, it's like top fifty get in and you're
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: like seventy fifth, thirty fifth, seventieth, fortieth, like back I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: knew you just ride the line and hoping you fall
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: on the good side of that variance. No, I want
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to fall on like last or first and just like
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: be in or out, because it can't be riding that
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: way if it's just brutal for those that have been
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: involved in and had to deal with it. So it's
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the same in satellites, the same in tournaments. Down the stretching.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: You've got to have some sort of separation here. But
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: again there's different ways you can go about. I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the prevalent thing to me from the chalk build and
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: we'll move on to leveraging it is three seven k
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: guys plus so three to four seven k guys is
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: definitely something you can leverage, avoiding the chalk either up
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: or down or Honestly, I will say this too, this
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: could be the lazy week. Like I know last week
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: is pretty lazy, but this week could be even more
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: lazy because people know the memorials coming up and the
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: US Open and the tournaments aren't like off the page
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Where what I mean by that
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: is I think like you could actually just build a
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: lineup with like six guys hundred ten percent. This week,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and it probably would be one of the better weeks
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: to do it where I don't feel like it's getting
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: too cute. Now I'll use an example here, and this
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: is a segueing it obviously, but you said who did
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: you say again? Up top Hedecki and MacIntyre right and
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: without I'm not going to build a whole thing, but
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: it's clearly even if they came at fifteen, which I
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what they'll actually come in at right now,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: what do you have them at right now? Our initials
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: are just like ten, ten to twelve. Yeah, I think
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: it's closer to that, And obviously that's where we need
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: some fix on lud Big going up and those guys
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: coming down. That's like part of it. It all goes together.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying people confuse that, like, well, you
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: still play two guys at twelve or fifteen percent they're
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: double digits. It's like it's ninety percent typically eighty eight
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: percent are not playing them. So it's like I'm looking
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: at it from that perspective of what I'm saying is now,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: imagine you were like, okay, I am gonna ride some
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: of these guys in here, Like what do I got
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: last seventy six fifty. Let me be more realistic. I'm
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: gonna play Thor because we know he can have upside.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play Thigala because we know he can have
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play more of a ceiling, and I'm not
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: gonna fill out the rest because I don't want to.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm showing you this is seventy two hundred remaining.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Even if you went Putnam in this, by the way,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: you could get away with it, but it's just kind
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: of you're already off the path a little bit, and
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: it's not like you went crazy off the path. You
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: have Hitdecki, Bobby Mack both in the weakest field. They'll
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: probably see all year. Thor, who we know can pump
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: in a field at any given moment, he could also miss.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: But it's like, if he does go for you, that's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be solid. At eighty two hundred, Thigalla is legitimate,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: legitimate option for sure. So I don't I don't want
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: to fill it out because and be like, oh, the
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: all the same line up, all this other stuff. My
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: point being, you kind of can't get in a reasonable way.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: You can't get to Novak and Putnam or like whatever,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: you have to do something different where it's going to
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: be a little bit unique on lower owned guys, or
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: even if you did say, well, what are you talking about, tambo,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I can get Bez in there even though he's got ownership,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: that's fine. But now you're gonna be down in the
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: in the upper six k range. You have a completely
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: different build. And I don't think you're dead in the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: water by any means in a tournament like this if
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: you did go this far with your build this week,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: just a note, I want to say that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I agree, and I think you
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: know that as as we now move into how to
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: how to leverage this truck build, Like again, I I
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: kind of think that this is a week where you
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: just you take whatever route you think is the best
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: route in terms of like almost player selection. And so
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: if you want your lane to be about distance guys,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to find under owned distance guys
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: at every price point. If you want your route to
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: just be like the best course fits like the best
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: iron players at every price point, you can find really
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: under owned iron specialists. You can kind of take any
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: route you want. And I think part of that is
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: because like, look, how big this seven K range is.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Between seven K and seventy nine is like thirty eight
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: guys or something like that at just at first glance,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So you can't possibly have all of them getting as
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: much ownership as they deserve. Someone is going to slip
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: through the cracks. If that's the route you want to
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: take this week, I think, more than any other this
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: season that I can remember, Like, I think that's just
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: viable where you where you actually don't let construction be
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: your differentiator this week. You just say I'm going to
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: be better at picking guy, not because my guys are
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: more likely to succeed, but because they're all similarly likely
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: to succeed. And I know that I can find guys
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: who are low owned in this range or just as
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: likely to succeed as the chalky guys, and just let
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: that be er pats of success.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I agree, And I think it's I mean, we'll see
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: what our lanes are at the end. But it also
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: comes up to the point of what you just said
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: at the end there. But like the concept of sticking
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: to it, like even a theme build like outside about
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: building and sets, like if you're gonna go with a
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: theme here, it's probably fine because I just don't see
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: where you're gonna run into all of the same guys
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that fit the chalk build or even even in most
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: cases the same construction. Like there is so so many
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: ways that you could go different here, And I guess
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: like this all depends on the person and how they think.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: But even if they don't like your Bobby Mack call,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: it's like, just use Hideki, Like could Hadeki beat this?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: And when is? I mean, we're gonna talk about one
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: and done in a bit. I think Adeki's fine this week,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Like I know he hasn't been good. I don't think
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: people end up there They're like, I was gonna this
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: is one. I said it off the top, so I'll
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: go to it now. Who is the better golfer, Hideki
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Batsiama or sung jm Hideki? How dumb does that sound? Even? Ask? Right?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And I everyone knows I'm a sung Jay stand But
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it's like, obviously Hideki is a better golfer. And I
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: don't even get it's not even like anything to do
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: with the green jacket and the longevity and the career
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: and the history and all of that I'm talking about.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Just look at it. Right now, and people will see
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: fifty third, seventy first, twenty six, like, oh, Hideki's washed,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: he sucks. He hasn't even had a top ten blah
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. Go look at all those fields
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: and who he played against. It's like those are all
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: the top fields and he hasn't had his best stuff.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: But we know Hideki can turn it on at any time. Well,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: sung Jay, he had a fifth and a ninth recently, okay,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: and what was that the you know, the the tournaments
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that he played, and sure, like you know one better
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: than the other. But my point being when you look
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: at that, it's like even before that, nothing was great
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: for him. But it's right now, what do you see, Like,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: what what's your ownership on the two of them? He
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: said twelve percent is or so ten to twelve percent
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: on Hideki, And I know that was a price difference.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I get it, guys, but I'm saying, like it's it's whatever,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: it's kind of irrelevant. It's twelve hundred bucks, like you
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: can find it and make it up somewhere. I guess
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: my point would be, though, it wouldn't be crazy for
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Hadeki to do something this week and yet people would
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: be people are using song Jay more than him, and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of I think One and Done they'll use
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: him more because he's kind of hot right now. A
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: couple good results recently, I think in DraftKings. I know
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it's a twelve hundred dollars difference, which does matter, but
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I'm saying I do think that's gonna happen. But at
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, Yeah, and stat senate here,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: how many top tens did Clark have going into last
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: week spoiler alert zero. It's like, these are the types
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: of guys that can pop, and so it's not even bashing.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: It's the best example to showcase of how your biases
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: need to go away in dfs completely. And it's not
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: about the picks and the players. It's like just thinking
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: of it through this stuff in certain depending on the
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: game you're playing. I was using that a little bit
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: for One and Done too. But right here, let's say
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I want to go with Hideki and I want to
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: play you know, I don't know smally an Ox Shay, Well,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: I've got the same money left over. Again, you could
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: now land on your bed and Putnam stuff if you
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: want it, because you're very different up top. You have
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a different construction. You have all guys that aren't in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: that common build. You don't have Ludwig, you don't have Ricky,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: you don't have JT. You don't have any of those
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: guys up there. But I'm just saying, if this is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: going to be your path of let's call this theme,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: guys that could pop the you know, shout out to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: to DJ and he's true, or he could right we
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: just you know, we're talking about his passing last week
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: and the Big Guy event details are coming out now,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: so that's important. It's just like he would say, or
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: he could if you built an or he could line up.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Does Putnam and Novak go into that or do they
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: just going because they're the projection darlings, like they don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: really fit the themes. So all I'm saying is you
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: could carry down this path and get away with playing
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: the Putnams and the Novaks and the Bezes of the world,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: or you could go further down it and say okay,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: or he could for a guy like I don't know
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: who does People usually like that they're not playing this week.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Who's the guy down here that we could say? Uh
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: like Ekro, People like again not gonna fill it the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: whole thing. But then you get back up to a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: range where it could be a lot of different guys
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: of or he could type guys that are all sub
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: ten percent, some sub five percent, and it's like that's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the theme that I'm talking about, where you would not
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: only have a different construction three nines and three seven k's,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: but you would have three nine k's that nobody is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: really playing or going too much there. So I don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: you have any further thoughts you want to add on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: leveraging the chalk bill, But I do think you your
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: common your your sorry statement around the commonality or the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: theme type build to just do it differently is when
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you go one route, kind of just stay on that
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: path instead of trying to veer back and forth.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: In Ziggins egg Well, I do want to add something
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: to the Hideki conversation, which is he has a very
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: clear and obvious weakness compared to the other best players
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: in the world, is he loses strokes in distance, and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: he loses strokes in accuracy off the tee even in
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: this field. And then he's phenomenal with his irons, he's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: phenomenal around the grain and he's a much improved putter.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: I think people probably haven't noticed just how much he
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: is putting now, Like he's actually gaining strokes with the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: putter instead of losing almost as many as like the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Kiddiamas of the world with the putter. So when you
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: look back at recent tournaments the PGA Championship, like, driving
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: wasn't hugely important there, but it was more predictive than
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people realize. But prior to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: that truest Cadillac like, those are big time driving events.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: You need distance and you need to drive the ball
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: accurately at both of those places. So the fact that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: he didn't play well, like, yeah, that's kind of what
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: we should have expected from him at a course where
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: you need to do the thing that he does poorly
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: really really well. And now you put him on a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: course where both driving distance and driving accuracy are less
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: predictive than usual. Even if driving distance is more predictive
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: than usual, here, that's still putting it around baseline maybe
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit more predictive than usual, but regardless, accuracy
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: is probably going to be less predictave than usual. Approach
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: plays much more predicted than usual. Like that really helps
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: a decy. So this is something and I like to stress,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: like when someone comes in in poor recent form, but
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: that poor recent form is literally expected because of how
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: he has fit the recent golf courses, and now he
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: gets a course that fits him really well. Like I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: think that's one of the ultimate places where people overvalue
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: recent form and don't consider course fit enough. And so
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: I think Kideki is a really strong play kind of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: all around the board this week.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, because it's a good segue
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: into the betting segment, but what's what's Adki's odds right now?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I couldn't pull it up on my phone while we
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: were talking. I was just looking.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: He's around He's around thirty, and with the with the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: one fifth each way for three spots, you can get
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: him at forty five to one, which I've already placed.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. So I was just gonna say
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I have interest in Adeki for that, you know, just
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not usually throwing them out there, but I do
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: think this is a really good week for it, and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I like that call quite a bit. We shouted out
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: dj in earlier and stat again said here earlier, this
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: is the stone two point zero Handbuilder is pretty awesome.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: We've got some more features coming, but we did change
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: it for those that aren't members or even our members,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it yet like I used to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: do forever, like looking for the sleepers and we I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I apologize and tagging me. This is the initials. But
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: when we tag the sleepers, you'll be able just to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: turn this on and see them all in one place.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: You can star the guys and then have your favorites only.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: You can sort it, buy the values, you can change
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: it by the waves if you want to look at
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: it there. Obviously, you can build your own lineups in
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: the handbuilder, and we are working on the save feature
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: as we speak so that you'll be able to do
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: that also. So it's going to be really good for
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: those that don't want to get a full optimizer or
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Sabersim membership or whatever it might be, or it's a
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: little bit too expensive for that, Well, now you have
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to have it all in one place and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: be able to see that. So we kept it one
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: hundred percent djen with. It's a huge legacy piece of
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: the dj N seventy five merger, and we didn't change
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: like the look of it all. As much as you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: could make this look better, it's the look that he'd
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: always had and everything that went there. But he always
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: wanted it to be interactive and for it to be
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: something that everybody could use to find things easily. So
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: now with AI and the tools and people that understand
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: how to use them, there's a lot more that you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: can do to make things a lot better. It's not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: like AI slop. Someone has to actually go and build
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: this stuff and then turn it into something and finag
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: and Alex you know all about this talking about it
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: in your discord, you know, the the clod stuff and
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: going through it. Like, there's a lot that goes into
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: building these tools out. It's it's maybe a little bit
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: easier nowadays than it once was, but it's easier for
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: people that will put in the effort. I think that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: was a you know, another thing I was gonna talk about.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't end up going on the tangent today, but
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: my Tambo Tangent was gonna just be on like I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I thought about this a lot like this.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I'll give it a little bit now. But like people
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: talk about, I'm sure like your discord, which I'll pump
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: up again. It's awesome place to be. If guys aren't
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: already already in Alex's discord, it's a great spot to be.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Should check it out. Do you haves mastermind ship, a nation?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: All these things and people like, oh, these people give
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: away everything. They tell you exactly what to do. Let
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: me tell you something. This is insane. I think it's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: so hilarious. But it's just like everything else. It takes effort.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: But people tell you every day, literally millions of people
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: these days with social media, tell you how to get
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: in shape, step by step. They can tell you exactly
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: what to eat. They can tell you for your body,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: your actions, your macros, how to track it, what to do.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: They give away all the secrets on how you could
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: lose weight and get fit and look good, how whatever
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: you want be healthy, however you want to frame it up.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Do you know how many people ignore that advice and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: go to McDonald's for lunch and Burger King for dinner
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: and eat ice cream. And it's it's nothing against them.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not shaming. I'm saying it's like anything else in life,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: there's always gonna be people that are talking about strategy
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: and getting ahead and how we can do better and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: wanting to level up and all these different factors. That's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: what Alex's discord does. That's what we do at Shivi Nation.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: That's where the project from dfsmastermind dot com came from.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: It's like that is gonna happen no matter what. It's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the people don't take the information. I remember people used
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: to go on like Pete Overs That's podcast, which I love.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I'm always a huge advocate of it. Him and him
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: in Brick seventy five do a great job on lols
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: or laws however you want to put it. Like I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: guess my point being, people would come on and be
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: like I have no idea why people won, and you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: know they they come on and just tell everything that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: they did. It's like why are you on the podcast?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: You just want it now You've got a podcast appearance
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: like what and where are they now? And it's also
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: like they're talking shit about people that actually help others
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: and lift them up and give them details. The main
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: point is just like what we just talked about, people
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: won't put the effort in to always use it to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: get ahead. You can tell them everything and give them
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: the exact roadmap, but they won't actually use it or
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: want to put the effort in. They'll just keep depositing, reloading,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: playing more, building new lineups whatever. They Oh, I'm gonna
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: get this one day, all right, That's what this is
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: all about. Do you have any thoughts on that, like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: just in general? And I mean, obviously you're doing a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: ton in your discord you can relate it to that,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: But I think it's important to note that even with
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: all the changes in AI and building tools and all that,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: somebody still has to go in and bug through it
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: and then get users to take it on to help
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: bug through that and then find out, okay, what breaks
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: and what works and how can we make it better
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: and all these different things that go into it. Just
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: my tangent for the week.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we might have even spoken about this
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit on the Mastermind episode that we did together.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: But I think like one of the best skills that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: you can have in life, but also like one of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: the most important skills that you can have as a
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: DFS player, especially if you're someone who consumes a lot
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: of content, is just the skill of like recognizing who
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: are the people that I should be listening to? And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: who are the people whose opinions I can kind of
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: just brush off a little bit. And the more people
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: who are doing shows and providing advice and quote unquote
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: telling you what to do, I think the more important
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: that becomes to have that skill and to you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: practice that skill. And honestly, like I think that's one
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: of the ways where you know, playing DFS can really
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: help in all aspects of life because you you really
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: do have to kind of generate your your own pretty
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: good bullshit detector, and obviously that helps in all all
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: walks of life.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: And it goes to the data as well too, Like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I know we have battles back and forth each week
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: on I think you haven't had had posted a couple
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Is like your ownership was right there,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: ship and Nation was right with you. It's funny, I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: don't think anyone out there of what I always say,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: like we're both smaller sites. We both come from you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: know this, you knowing up from the bottom up. But
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it's like people just consider these other sites like the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: number one sites in the industry because they say they are,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: because more people say that about them, and our sites
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: have been way more accurate week in week out on
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: ownership projections, especially when it comes to golf and no
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: secret the logos that you see at the top are
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: typically related to these brands. So it's like that to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: me is telling in its own right, but it's like again,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: finding that out, figuring it out as you go along
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: is definitely important, and it's to each their own. Everyone
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: will find their way. But I think that's important to remember,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Like it's your effort in is still important. It's not
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: just like let me play more and see what happens
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: or let me, you know, try this, try that. There
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: is ways to sort of jump start your path and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: get ahead and then be able to apply it from there.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's also why we spend as
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: much time as we do kind of talking through the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: strategy aspect and the why of what we're doing. So like,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: for example, let's say I build a lineup this week
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: that that's like all bombers. It helps for someone to know. Okay,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Alex did that because he thought that the softness of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: the golf course, in the lack of and could make
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: it such that bombers had more of an advantage of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: this week than they typically do. It colonial if that
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't play out, and all you know is, well, Alex
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: really liked Keith Mitchell and Gary Woodland and Johnny Keefer
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: and they all played really poorly, so he obviously doesn't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: know anything. It's like, it really helps you to know
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: the reasoning behind what we're doing, so that when things
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: don't work out, you have the tools and the information
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: you need to decide. Did he make a bad decision
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: or was that a good calculated risk that didn't work out?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: And so you know, we like to kind of leave
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: that up to you guys where you can decide Nope,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: in that case, Alex was just being a dumbass, or yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: there was a good thought that just didn't work out
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: this time.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Neil here. I know, Neil says,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: thanks for mentioning the small stakes players. I call myself
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: a micro player, play every day, but for sure less
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: than ten. That's what it's all about. You got to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: start somewhere. There's an opportunity there. Like again, looking at that,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I work with tons of players over in the Mastermind
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: program and the mentorship too that play fifty bucks a
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: weekend in golf for one hundred bucks a weekend in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: golf and it's like, just how can you extend that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: money to make you, you know, a better player, what
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: suits your game, and then how you could use it
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: to maybe sealing yourself out where you can get to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: a number where now it's like, like Alex said earlier,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: if you win a thousand bucks, even though you came
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: up short, and you're like Dan, that was the closest
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: you got the best rush of your life being that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: close to like the biggest score ever you were right there.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: You still come away with four figures, which is way
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: more than ten bucks. Right now, you got a thousand bucks.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: And it's not saying you're going into the thousand dollars
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: tournament next week or two five fifty five's and depositing
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: a little extra to play more, but it's like you're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: going to just now be able to make some of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: those decisions. And yeah, that's really what it's all about.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe the S is for success, but
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I said this one before in the past, like the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: D and DFS discipline, d F is for fun. Use
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: the big guy, gotta have fun doing what you're doing.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: And I think if you have discipline, have fun with it,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: there's a chance at least then it leads to the S,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: which is success. And that's you know, just a quick
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: little acronym to spin it on DFS. But it's like,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: that's why we love the game. If you stay disciplined,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: you could stay in the game. If you have fun,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna you have too many highs or too
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: many lows that make you play bad or go away
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: from your discipline. And the longer you can do both
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: of those two things, the better your chance. Maybe I'm
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: saying of finding success. So it's kind of like discipline
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: plus fun equals potential success or the maybe around success,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, but it's my point being it's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: definitely possible and it's a lot of fun. We love
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: playing this game. We love what we do. From a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: one and done perspective. Do we have hideki? Maybe we're
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: just all in too much here, but I kind of
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: like Hideki. I also will say, because you brought this
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: up to start the season, people like these segments like
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Ludwig will be popular. Of course, it's the you know,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: the most likely field for him to beat. I think
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: if you're you know, out ahead and not worried about
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: anything and you just want to try and get a
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: guy that's gonna win. I'm fine with it, I guess,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: But for me, it's like this is where you made
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: the comments earlier this season of like people are like,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: what do you mean you're holding back on uh Hideki
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: or Bobby Mack or whatever, Like those guys are capable.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, they're gonna see field or they're gonna
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: see fields later on this season where they play and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: they're like a top six, top seven golfer and have
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: the chance to get to the top. Here is that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: kind of your thought process here if you're especially you're.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Behind, Yeah, absolutely think this is one of the weeks
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: where you take one of the better guys, Like I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: think if you haven't used Oberg, I think he's of
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the quality that you want to save him for an
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: upper echelon event, the signature event, one of the majors,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: something like that. Outside of him, I think I'm okay
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: using absolutely anybody in this field, because, as you said, like,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: this is one of those weeks where they all have
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: the win equity to justify using in a smaller perse contest,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: and like Kadecki's third in our win odds at three
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: point six percent, so I think he's a really sharp play.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: We do have him available. I'm happy to lock him
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: in for us. Let's see who else. Want to give
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: some some real consideration to the other thing with the decue.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Like again we mentioned the course fit thing and the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: big weakness that he has compared to the best players
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: in the field. Well, the vast majority of weeks, for
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: signature events and certainly for major championships, driving is really important.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: So when Hideki's up against a major championship field, it's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: not just that he has more guys to beat, it's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: also that he has to overcome this big weakness that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: he has relative to those players. And this is a
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: week where that's a lot less in play, and so
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: I think this is the perfect time to use Hideki.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: There are some other guys that I think would be
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: good plays. Like I think, when you're when you're thinking
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: about the other best plays in this field, the other
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: best players in this field, the number one thing to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: ask yourself is do they have this ceiling to win
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: an elevated event? Do they have the ceiling to win
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: a major championship? And so, like Henley, maybe McIntyre. Certainly
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: we've seen McIntyre win those types of events. So I've
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: got you know, we we have Henley at four percent
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: to win, McIntyre at two point seven percent to win.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: If you put a really strong field around these guys,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: that might flip a little bit where McIntyre's additional volatility
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: would help him and Henley's low volatility would hurt him.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: So you know, with a really strong field, it might
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: be like Henley comes crashing down to two percent, McIntyre
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: comes down from two point seven to two point two
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: percent and actually is now more likely to win. And
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: so that's the sort of thing that I would be
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: thinking of when you're going through who the best players
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: are that you still have available, and whether or not
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: you want to use them so course fit and do
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: they have the ceiling to win an elevated event or
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: is this like really really their best chance to win?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: And and so that lands me on HYDECKI I think
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: it also means that like a JJ Spawn would be
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: really good, Smally would be good. I think Henley's pretty good,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: and honestly, like maybe even a JT or Fowler are
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: pretty good plays as well.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I think for me, and it'll segue into my leveraged lane,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: but I'll say, just my final thought and the one
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: and done to tight end is like I'm definitely in
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: that secondary range like you said, like I actually I
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: don't think I want like Lude Big, JT, Bobby mack
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Henley or Fowler, And I get why they all could
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: be good, but I'm more like I'd be way more
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: inclined to go spaw on Griffin's small Rio, Keith Mitchell
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: hideki Akshay Like I'm also not really saving them for much.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: And I know there's other spots you could use them,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: but for me, it's like, at this point in this field,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I would just rather take on that. And I don't
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: know if I'm stealing your thunder, but I was going
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: here the whole day, so I don't think I am,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: because you usually have different ways to look around it,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: and if not, I'll add another piece to mine. But
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: in my main two hundred dollars single entry this week
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: and for my leverage lane, I'm fading Ludwig, I'm fading JT,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm baiting Ricky. I'm not playing any of those
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: top three owned chalk guys at the top. I probably
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: would go further to say I just don't want to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: fully again then be oh, I saw this, he said this.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I'm guaranteed on that from what I've looked at this
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: morning and went through. But I might actually not have
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: anyone higher on than fifteen percent because just because I'm
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: baiting this guys, I'm not loading up on like again,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I just don't know where it will land down low
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: and want I actually land on about like Putnam and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Novak and guys like that. I just don't see those
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: guys fitting in as well. So I'll have a pretty
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: different build this week that kind of goes with my theme.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: I guess if that's what you want a theme as
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: of like, I'm fine just sticking to my lane and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: you know our guys stat is in here he always said,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: like going your lane one hundred miles an hour, don't
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: look back. I'm going with leverage autoball, and I'm rolling
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: the whole strip out this week and I'm just going down.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going whatever that is, and there's no reason for
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: me just to like add in those other guys. So
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: it's very likely it's not only fade those guys up top,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: which is my main theme, but likely that I'm not
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: playing anyone down low that's over ten percent or even
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: over like eight percent either, just because the way my
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: construction and thoughts are shaken.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Out, I like it. My leverage lane is going to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: be different from that. It's gonna be to lean into distance.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: This week kind of similar to last week. And one
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: of the things that I will reiterate from last week
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: is like, I think this could be another week where
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: just the skill of making birdies really comes to fruition.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: And one of the biggest predictors of who makes a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: lot of birdies is distance. So when you know, I've
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: done a lot of like roster construction kind of study
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: this season, and one of the things that I have
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: noticed is like bomber heavy lineups, regardless of the week,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: tend to do really well because they just score really well.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: So they're just good for DraftKings scoring. But I also
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: have the narrative this week that I think distance could
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: be a lot more predictive here at Colonial than it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: typically is a Colonial because of the soft conditions and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: the lack of wind. And the last thing here is
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: I can play a lineup full of bombers who are
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: also very good iron players. So I'm not going against
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the current course fit model. I'm not going against projections.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: I can find guys who look really good in the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: GPP scores, and I can lean into this kind of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: potentially correlated outcome where distance is more beneficial than the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: field expects. And then what we've seen here in the past.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: And so guys like Keith Mitchell, Gary Woodland, Rasmus Hoyguard,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: all of these guys are great scorers, They're decent, two
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: great iron players, and they have this like huge potential
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: benefit of really taking off off if distance is more
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: predictive than usual. So that's gonna be my leverage line,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: is leaning into these bombers who score well and are
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: better course fits than than what the field is recognize.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Does your boy Michael Brennan fit this as well. He's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: always a favorite of yours.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: He is not a good iron player. I think if
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: you're looking for someone in that range who, like we
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: were really high on coming into the season, is long
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: off the tee. I think Keifer is the better option
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: of the two, Keifer over Brennan quite frankly, simply because
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Keifer played really really well last week, and last week
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: was more like, oh, this is the guy that we
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: thought we were getting for most of the season. He
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: finished third at the Houston Open. He was seventh at
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: the RSM, and you know, he made a bunch of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: cuts early on, was good at the Amex, the Farmers
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: and the Phoenix Open, and it was like, Okay, he
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: hasn't gone nuts yet, but he's been awesome with the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: ball striking and and this is going to be a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: really good player. And then he spiked at Houston Open
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: after some really bad events, and then he started playing
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: poorly again. But finally, you know, makes the cut at
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Myrtle Beach, makes the cut of the PGA Championship, and
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: then finishes T nine at the CJ Cup and was
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: incredible on Sunday, And so maybe just being ahead of
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: the curve on him. The ball striking was sensational all around.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: The distance is there, So if you're going for someone
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: in that range, I think he's probably my preference. But yeah,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are honestly so many options kind of
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: through every range, which is why I think we're getting
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: some of these guys so alone. Like think, you know,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: Rasmus Wager was a pretty popular play last week. He
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: was a popular showdown option after he had really good round.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: He makes a ton of birdies and he crashed in
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: price all the way down to seventy five hundred and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: right now we were projecting him less than five percent.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, again, it's like, you know, I in taking
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: this leverage lane, I am not looking at guys who
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: project poorly have bad GVP scores and I'm playing them
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: any way just because they're a long off the tee.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: I'm able to find guys who project pretty well, have
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: good GPPs course, and just have this like icing on
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: the cake of potentially getting a benefit to to driving
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: distance this week.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting too, just to note because a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: guy like him, it's just he can't get I mean,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he gets to that ownership level
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: because it's like when you have Bez and we talked
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: about earlier, like Harmon and fee now and then you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: have a Novak and Putnam and Yella and Tom Kim
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: and all those guys right there. It's like he just
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: can't get, can't get to the ownership number that you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: know people would expect, and then he'll hit and people like,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: of course I was on him last week. I loved
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: him in this last week, and like that's the best part.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: It's like they're not paying it. They don't think about
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: that at all, and we love that stuff. So to me,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah, I don't have too much else. I think,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be a fun week. Otherwise, a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: lot of guys kind of could fit that mold and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: that kind of like you can mix our leverage lanes
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: because you could like build the lineup that then fits
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: that that also and it goes to your point earlier too,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: while like picking picks and plays is stupid versus when
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: someone's like, well, why was Alex all these guys told
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: you he's going with in one of his lineups, He's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: going with bombers that also fit this narrative that you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: can have good irons as well and on you can
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: find that yourself. It's just noting. It's like you might
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: not land on the same lineup as him, but the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: concept would start being more understood as opposed to the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: other side of it.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: What about quick and well, yeah, to that point, like
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't yet know if that's gonna be
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Like am I am I making both of my lineups
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: bomber heavy and just getting different combinations or am I
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: gonna have one bomber heavy lineup and one lineup that
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: takes advantage of you know how under owned I think
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: Kideki Matsuyama is, and then if I go to Hideki,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: am I gonna surround him with other bombers. Am I
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: just gonna do best plays from that point? Or am
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: I gonna try to correlate it where everyone else is
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: similar to Hideki and that they would really benefit if
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: driving continues to be significantly less predictive than most courses,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: as it's been here at Colonial in the past. So
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the the overall strategy is gonna be,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: but I do know with certainty one of the lineups
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: is gonna be bomber bomber, bomber, bomber, Bumber, bomber, bomber.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: All of them project pretty well good iron players stuff
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: like that, But what.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Happens when they club down to three wood with these
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: tree lined fairways.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Honestly, that's a way in which distance can be predictive
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: of success, because it's easier to hit a three wood
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: straight than it is to hit a driver straight. It's
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: easier to hit a three iron straight than it is
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: to hit a three wood straight, and you also get
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: certain holes where like, let's say it's a bit of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: a dog like and most of the field says, I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: can't carry those trees. So I'm gonna hit three wood
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: just straight down the fairway and I'm gonna leave myself
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: one sixty. Well, someone in the field is going to say,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: I do have that carry distance to cover the corner.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have sixty yards in while they have one
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty and you get the benefit that way.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: So also, you said you're playing guys with irons as well,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: So if they do have a club down land on
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: the fairway, they still have good irons, and so it's like, yeah,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: from that perspective.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: And honestly, like that's you know, someone mentioned earlier that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: this is a position golf course, and I think that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: largely that's true, and it's especially true when it's firm.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: But what position is better to be left side of
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: the fairway from one hundred and twenty yards out or
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: right side of the fairway from one hundred and eighty
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: yards out right. So even in a position golf course,
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  Speaker 3: part of position is how close are you to the green?
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  Speaker 3: And who gets closer to the green? The guys who
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  Speaker 3: hit the ball further.
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  Speaker 2: Yeap, And it's just more tools in the bag, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like if a guy like you said, the guy that's
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  Speaker 2: that could club down, you're playing a guy that's a
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  Speaker 2: bomber with good irons. Is he could still club down
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  Speaker 2: and me just as good as anybody else in there.
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  Speaker 2: But then he has good irons. He also might say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, with this wind and this day and
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  Speaker 2: the way things set up, I'm good to actually take
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  Speaker 2: it over the trees this time and set myself up
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  Speaker 2: even better. And that's gonna lead to more scoring opportunities
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  Speaker 2: over the short sample we get of two rounds before
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  Speaker 2: the cut, but maybe that's what helps them make the
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  Speaker 2: cut and then we go from there. So there's lots
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  Speaker 2: of opportunities for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's honestly, Like, that's something that got me on
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  Speaker 3: Cam Young before Cam Young was cameyong, Like the literally
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  Speaker 3: the year that he broke out, I think he was
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  Speaker 3: is really good at Tory Pines and then had an
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  Speaker 3: awesome week at the Genesis And like the reason why
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: I was on for the Genesis was there there are
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  Speaker 3: a number of holes where you can't hit driver, Like
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: number one, most guys don't hit driver, And it was
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  Speaker 3: clear to me that like, okay, he's either bombing driver
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  Speaker 3: away pass guys or when they are hitting three wood,
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  Speaker 3: he's hitting a long iron and it's just so much
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  Speaker 3: easier to hit the fair with a long iron. And
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  Speaker 3: so that sort of thing, like I think, is one
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  Speaker 3: of the more overlooked aspects of why distance is so
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  Speaker 3: often predictive and why just doing predictive analysis can be
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  Speaker 3: so beneficial, because sometimes distance is more predictive of how
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  Speaker 3: accurate you are than how accurate you are off the tee,
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  Speaker 3: because it's about the club that you end up hitting.
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  Speaker 3: So just you know, a cool kind of modeling note there,
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  Speaker 3: I guess for a feurpka love.
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  Speaker 2: That stuff man. Final one we'll take for today. It's
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  Speaker 2: a betting one and say if you're taking them, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll try and help you guys out wherever we can
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  Speaker 2: get Alex's thoughts on this one, but says, I like
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  Speaker 2: the ladder my outrights T twenty T ten T five
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  Speaker 2: What odds would be the cutoff for that? He's asking,
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  Speaker 2: get your opinion. If someone was fifty to one, would
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: you ladder them? If someone's twenty to one, do you bother?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's like they just got to win this thing,
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  Speaker 2: like what's your.
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  Speaker 3: There, It depends on the player and the reasoning for
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  Speaker 3: making the outright bet. If your reasoning is that he's
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  Speaker 3: a really volatile player who's great in contention, so when
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: he contends, I love his chances to actually get it
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  Speaker 3: done and win. I don't like the idea of laddering
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: because you know, even like top ten bet, he might
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: not be a good top ten bet, even if he's
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  Speaker 3: a phenomenal win bet. If you if your opinion is
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: that he's a great outright because the field in the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: market is just generally under projecting him, then you can
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: do the entire ladder. So like last week, for example,
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  Speaker 3: I had the four hundred and fifty to one Billy
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  Speaker 3: Horsehall outright. I only had the outright. He didn't have
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: anything else on him this week, Kadeki, I think you
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: could probably do the entire ladder for a decade. We've
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  Speaker 3: got him at twelve point eight percent for a top five,
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  Speaker 3: twenty three percent for a top ten, thirty seven percent
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  Speaker 3: for a top twenty. I haven't looked at all his
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: other odds, but I'm guessing that he's showing value all
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: those spots because we're saying the market is underappreciating Kideki,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not just that he's a volatile player or
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: great under a great wintention, things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect all right, Alex, awesome show as usual.
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