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2023 NFL "Legal Tampering" Has Begun | Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags Drivetime with John Oshers and Jay P. Shadar.
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  Speaker 1: Jags Drivetime starts right now and welcome in. It is
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Jags Drivetime. Apparently things happened before noon on Jaguars dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: I'm JP Shadrick, John Osher, coming up. We've got a
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: busy show. It's Tuesday. The league year begins Wednesday four o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: A lot happening here, Johnny, Oh, good morning, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. Busy day yesterday. I don't know how busy
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: today will be, but uh, busy in the wrong direction
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. But necessary moves and necessary happenings in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the salary cap. Well, let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: big things for today, starting with the negotiation period. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they officially call it. It's the it's the
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  Speaker 1: period where you can negotiate contracts and all that. There's
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  Speaker 1: all these contracts coming out in social media though right
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  Speaker 1: now they can officially be signed. Starting with big thing
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  Speaker 1: number two. That's Wednesday, the league year gets underway. Four
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  Speaker 1: o'clock is the official time where teams can announce deals
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  Speaker 1: and they can officially be signed. It's when all the
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  Speaker 1: contracts toll over to the next year as well. That
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  Speaker 1: is this Wednesday, four o'clock, and that leaves some priorities
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. As John Reference will get to it
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  Speaker 1: a moment, some key pending free agents have apparently reportedly
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  Speaker 1: agreed to deals with other teams, including the right tackle
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  Speaker 1: and a tight end, So that leaves some priorities maybe
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars and free agency, the draft and beyond
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  Speaker 1: it all kind of fits together in the offseason. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's start John with the negotiation period big thing number
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  Speaker 1: one today. This is a relatively new phenomenon in the
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  Speaker 1: last few years. You know, these deals were starting to
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  Speaker 1: leak out anyway, so the league expanded the time frame
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  Speaker 1: a couple days before the start of the league year
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  Speaker 1: to be able to air quote negotiate with the teams.
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  Speaker 1: But we know how that goes, right, I mean, these
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  Speaker 1: things come out as soon as that negotiation window opens.
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  Speaker 1: You're seeing deals reported. Yeah. Uh, it was a little
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  Speaker 1: slower yesterday, and then it took a couple hours for
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  Speaker 1: most of the big hits to start happening. I think
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  Speaker 1: the intent, and it's a noble intent I think by
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  Speaker 1: the league to have the negotiation periods start. It used
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  Speaker 1: to be that you quote couldn't contact the agents are
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  Speaker 1: the players before the four PM started the league year,
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  Speaker 1: and then by an hour into it, guys had signed
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  Speaker 1: and so you sort of got that deal done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that so that was a bad look. Everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: it happens, etc. So the negotiation period, in theory, it
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  Speaker 1: ought to create this phenomenon of noon on Monday negotiation
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  Speaker 1: takes place. May be a team that had a player
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  Speaker 1: that they liked, here's about the new deal, and then
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  Speaker 1: you can come back and maybe counter to that player.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is, if a player is not signed by
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  Speaker 1: his former team, especially a high profile guy, before that
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  Speaker 1: negotiation period start starts, it's pretty rare for the guy
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  Speaker 1: to come back to that team. So you knew with
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  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor, you knew with a couple of guys that
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  Speaker 1: it probably wasn't going to bode well for getting him back,
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  Speaker 1: and then it was going to be too rich. And
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars just realized there's a certain limit to how
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  Speaker 1: high you can go and as a GM, as the
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  Speaker 1: decision makers, you have to stick with that. They've played
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  Speaker 1: in that field the last couple of years in free agency,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars have but up against it this year. Unable
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  Speaker 1: to go to that level. And let's get to Juwan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor reportedly four years, eighty million dollars, sixty million of
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  Speaker 1: that guaranteed by the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, it's not
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  Speaker 1: to play right tackle, it's to play left tackle for
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And that's a huge payday for Juwan Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: A guy who was a second round pick here for
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars back in twenty nineteen and never missed a
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  Speaker 1: start in four seasons here, reliable and got better as
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  Speaker 1: it went on. Last year, you know, talking to all
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  Speaker 1: the people who know tackle play around us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: analysts and such, a guy named Basselli, this was his
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  Speaker 1: best year and it came at the right time. Contract
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  Speaker 1: year for Joan and he's gonna pay in. Yeah it did,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, obviously good for him, good kid. Glad to
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  Speaker 1: see him, you know, get his pay day if you will.
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  Speaker 1: From the Jaguars point of view, the reality is they
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  Speaker 1: have walker little. When you draft well over the course
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  Speaker 1: of a three or four year period and you've got
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  Speaker 1: a guy ready to step in. These are the kind
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  Speaker 1: of decisions you have to make to make the cap
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  Speaker 1: work over the long term. Somebody had a really good
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  Speaker 1: tweet yesterday and I want to say it was Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Brand that that may be wrong, so if it is,
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  Speaker 1: don't hold me to it. But it was somebody who
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  Speaker 1: knows the cap and said, you know, there's always a
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  Speaker 1: stuff about the cap not being real, like you always
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  Speaker 1: hear that. Well, this tweet basically said the CAP's not
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  Speaker 1: real over a six month period, but it's it's real
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  Speaker 1: over a four or five year period, and a point
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  Speaker 1: being you can play with it, you can push it around.
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  Speaker 1: At some point it's going to become real and cost
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  Speaker 1: you guys. So Trent Balky, the decision makers here are
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  Speaker 1: clearly trying to get to a situation where the cap
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  Speaker 1: overall is what it has to be moving forward to
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  Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence signed next year, to keep key guys
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  Speaker 1: to keep this thing going. They would have loved to
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  Speaker 1: have signed Juwan Taylor. He's exactly the kind of draft
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  Speaker 1: and develop guy that you want to sign, but there
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  Speaker 1: also has to be a ceiling in how high you
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  Speaker 1: will go to make things work for the long term.
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  Speaker 1: So good for Juan, not great for the Jaguars. But
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  Speaker 1: this is where when you're a draft and developed team, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you want to, I'll resign that guy, but you also
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  Speaker 1: hope that you have drafted and developed in case you can't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the hope of Walker Lettle. That's the idea
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  Speaker 1: at least. Chris Manhertz also reportedly signing close to signing
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  Speaker 1: a deal, coming to an agreement with the Denver Broncos
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  Speaker 1: two years, six million dollars. Known mainly as a blocking
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  Speaker 1: tight end, here, he did have the first ever touchdown
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  Speaker 1: pass reception from Trevor Lawrence. He's exactly the kind of
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  Speaker 1: guy and this is not a knock on on Chris,
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  Speaker 1: but he's the kind of veteran free agent that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you have to be willing to lose and draft and
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  Speaker 1: develop behind that draft and develop your run blocking tight end,
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  Speaker 1: have your run blocking tight and be a second or
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  Speaker 1: third year guy as opposed to a six or a
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  Speaker 1: seven year guy. So you don't want to lose your
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  Speaker 1: Chris man hurts is because over time you need those
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  Speaker 1: supplemental veteran players and older veteran players who have experience
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  Speaker 1: who can get you there. But you can't have him
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  Speaker 1: all around the roster. See if you pick and choose
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  Speaker 1: your spots where you let those guys go good guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'll miss Chris. I know you get to know him
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  Speaker 1: about pretty well late in the season last year he
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  Speaker 1: was done some shows with you. Yeah, good guy who
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  Speaker 1: you want to have around your franchise. But veteran guys
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  Speaker 1: like that, you also need to be replacing that seven
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  Speaker 1: next to that name with twos and threes next to
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  Speaker 1: that name as time goes on. It's a league of
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  Speaker 1: roster churn, and this was a case of that. All right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you a bonus points. He yes, he caught
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  Speaker 1: the first ever touchdown pass in the NFL from Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: What other NFL player did he catch the first touchdown
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  Speaker 1: passed from shown? No? Okay, no, Christian McCaffrey. Okay, good
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen running back Carolina at the time, they threw
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  Speaker 1: the running back pass and it was a fifty yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: I always associate him and playing with the Bills. He
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  Speaker 1: never actually played with the Bills, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been to Panthers. Well, you don't get
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  Speaker 1: bonus points. Okay. He played for Kennesius, which is near Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: It's why he's that confused. But Josh Allen never played
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  Speaker 1: for Kennesius. No, I don't think so. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: watching them. There. We're back in a moment ozone snap shot.
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  Speaker 1: We've got questions. We'll see if Osher has answers, we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out in the moment. It's Jack's drive time on
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Friendly. Oh, this Jack's drive time,
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  Speaker 1: and it's time to dig into the zone mailbag. Beware
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  Speaker 1: with this week. This is Michael from Orange Park. Here.
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  Speaker 1: We are at the brink of the tampering period. We
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  Speaker 1: haven't signed Taylor or Key or any other free agent.
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  Speaker 1: What gives Well, I think what gives is you have
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  Speaker 1: to be smart, and you know, I think the gist
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  Speaker 1: of this was that, you know, the team has talked
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  Speaker 1: in years or in off seasons past about resigning its
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  Speaker 1: own players. So I think people some people took that
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  Speaker 1: to mean that it would be resigning their own players
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  Speaker 1: at all costs, which it is a nice theory. And
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  Speaker 1: you very much want to resign Juwan Taylor, and you
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  Speaker 1: want to resign Art and Key, but you also have
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  Speaker 1: to be willing to look ahead and realize what you
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  Speaker 1: do to your cap in future years. If you do
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  Speaker 1: that when you have Trevor Lawrence a quarterback, when you
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  Speaker 1: have Doug Peterson as a head coach, and you have
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  Speaker 1: what looks like a young offense around it, you have
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  Speaker 1: to be willing to, over the course of the next
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  Speaker 1: ten to twelve years, build around Trevor Lawrence. Let him
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  Speaker 1: raise all boats if you will. He's gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: be a player over time that lifts guys because his
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  Speaker 1: contract is gonna be alive. Jape. I don't if you
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  Speaker 1: know that or not. Really, it's gonna be a it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a mega deal. It's some what you need
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  Speaker 1: to be able to read to sign him and set
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  Speaker 1: up your structure so that he lifts and that you're
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  Speaker 1: not so tied down with cap that you can't sign him,
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  Speaker 1: and then structure your cap around him. So I think
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  Speaker 1: what gives is that they love these guys, but they
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  Speaker 1: have to be smart. Next question we go to Germany. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that might be the Munich we're talking about out dan
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  Speaker 1: from U Nick highsone. What's the benefit of extending Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence's contract next year rather than have him play on
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  Speaker 1: the rookie deal. Extending him a year earlier doesn't give
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  Speaker 1: you any discount correct to your guy, JP. Yeah, Um,
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  Speaker 1: do you want everybody to know he's your guy? That's
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  Speaker 1: probably better than not. Do you want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that he knows he's the guy? Do you can structure
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  Speaker 1: it is such where in twenty twenty four, which is
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  Speaker 1: the year they would it would be first that it's
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  Speaker 1: not a complete uh, your hook on your cap, so
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  Speaker 1: to speak. So, Um, the Chiefs Redid Mahomes and I
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  Speaker 1: think it was June after his third season, so it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the day after his third season, which is the
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  Speaker 1: first day you really can start go doing that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that the Jaguars would get that done
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  Speaker 1: next year, but I would think that that's something that
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that this is your guy. This is
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  Speaker 1: your Peyton Mann and your Patrick Mahomes. You're Aaron, you
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  Speaker 1: know all those guys who defined franchises over the years.
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  Speaker 1: If you know that he's that guy, which I think
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  Speaker 1: by the end of this off seat, by the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season ideally you will, then you resign him. Well.
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  Speaker 1: And the idea of discounts at that rate, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about that. The number is just going to keep
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  Speaker 1: going up. The further you go down the line. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you go two years later and sign him,
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  Speaker 1: the number is going to be higher than it would be. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think the reader's point is in theory, if you
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  Speaker 1: wait him after the fourth year, then you get him
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  Speaker 1: on that rookie deal. But you can also you can
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  Speaker 1: set it up by married ways. You can set it
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  Speaker 1: up so that it doesn't kick in til the next year.
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  Speaker 1: You can set it up so that it does start.
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  Speaker 1: You tear up the contract so to speak, and then
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  Speaker 1: you start. There's many ways to do it. It's so complex.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea how how they structure it. My
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  Speaker 1: guess is much like the Mahomes deal, it will be
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  Speaker 1: structured in such a way that when it comes out,
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  Speaker 1: it's picked apart and examined by agents and other teams
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  Speaker 1: on how to move forward. Because when you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: such a mega deal, which I'm just assuming it'll be
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: a mega deal, but these mega deal quarterbacks, they try
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  Speaker 1: to take the past contracts as a base. But you
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: have to be creative and how you structure it. You
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: have to Mahomes deal I think was ten years or
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: when you start getting into that, then you start getting
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  Speaker 1: into theories moving down the road. You know, it's not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily a cookie cutter contracts. I don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: be done, but I would think that serious conversations start
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  Speaker 1: the next offseason to get that done for the reasons
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: we outline at the top. One more question, this is
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  Speaker 1: Frank from Jacksonville. What is to become of Marvin Jones Junior?
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  Speaker 1: Will he officially be a free agent after marks fifteenth
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  Speaker 1: or will he need to be released by the team
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  Speaker 1: for cap space. He has always been a dependable receiver
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago was the best receiver
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  Speaker 1: on the team. We've come a long way since then.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Marvin Jones Junior for helping us get there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love Martin, but he's a free agent as of
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  Speaker 1: four pm on Wednesday, and he'll be in his twelfth
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  Speaker 1: year next year. They've traded for Calvin Ridley. I think
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  Speaker 1: Marvin knows. My idea is that Marvin would like to
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  Speaker 1: play on the West Coast if if he continues to play,
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  Speaker 1: he'd like to be closer to where he's eventually going
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  Speaker 1: to start his family after football, have his life after football.
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  Speaker 1: I don't knows for sure, but that's the vibe you get,
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  Speaker 1: and he's been around the ling long enough to understand
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  Speaker 1: what that means when you bring in a trade of
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Redley, and well, he also around here.
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  Speaker 1: He was signed a two year deal at his age,
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  Speaker 1: and his feelings for the Jaguars are strong. I think
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  Speaker 1: people around the Jaguars appreciate what he did. But answer
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  Speaker 1: to the question, you won't be cutting him for cap
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  Speaker 1: space because he was never on your cap for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three because the contract runs out tomorrow at four pm.
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  Speaker 1: So it is it a cap savings in a way,
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  Speaker 1: because if the world was ideal and there was no cap,
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  Speaker 1: they'd probably love to have Marvin Backs as a very
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  Speaker 1: good fourth receiver, you know, but that's not how the
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  Speaker 1: real world works. So I think everybody sort of knew
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  Speaker 1: that after last year, with Ridley coming in, it just
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  Speaker 1: made sense. Marvin Jones veteran, Calvin Redley veteran, come in.
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  Speaker 1: I think you upgrade there and you move forward. So
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  Speaker 1: he's a pro. He was in his third year. It
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  Speaker 1: might bother him. He's in his twelfth year, so I
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  Speaker 1: think he gets it. I think his feelings for Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: will be strong and vice versa. That's it. For the
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  Speaker 1: Fortunato on the audio. Let's take a quick look around
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and yes, it's all free agency, all the time, John,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: this time of year and a lot of quarterback conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is dominating the headlines. There's talk of the
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Jets negotiating with some of his receivers now, and it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: just feels like it's just a matter of time before
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: that is announced to send Rogers to New York. Could
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: be today. Who knows what happens with that one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's funny that would be a similar pathum bred
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  Speaker 1: Farr finished his career there, So it's so far that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, except it's it's sort of an oddity. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You almost feel for these teams that are trying to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback thing with older veterans because it's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so hard to do and it so rarely works. But
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: if you're a Jaguars fan, you've been in quarterback Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hell yeah, hey, you say, hell we you know, we
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  Speaker 1: got high school kids every year, but uh yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a tough road. So I don't think Jaguars fans
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  Speaker 1: are that sympathetic. But it's you understand why teams do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's quarterback league. The Saints I think, look at it
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  Speaker 1: and say, okay, if we bring car in, then we
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  Speaker 1: have a shot to really get going here. It is
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  Speaker 1: a tough, tough way to go because of the continuity involved,
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  Speaker 1: because of how that guy has to grow within a system.
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  Speaker 1: If he haven't worked somewhere else, it's rare to have
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  Speaker 1: it really work somewhere else. But you know, good luck
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  Speaker 1: to him, and I think the Jaguars fans will be
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  Speaker 1: glad that that position seems solved for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's the Lamar Jackson side of things and the
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. And yeah, he's a former MVP and they've
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  Speaker 1: tagged him and that just seems like they've got to
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  Speaker 1: figure something out at some point. But Lamar's representing himself
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  Speaker 1: as well. That's part of the issue. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 1: a unique thing to be doing if you're the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: It it's tough for a quarterback who hasn't finished the
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  Speaker 1: last two seasons, and it is dependent on mobility for success.
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  Speaker 1: He can throw, he's an accurate passer, but he is
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  Speaker 1: at his best when he is able to be mobile.
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  Speaker 1: And quarterbacks typically don't get more mobile and he beings
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  Speaker 1: don't get more durable as time goes on. So that
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where the Ravens are a little concerned about.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think teams want to set the precedent
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  Speaker 1: of huge guaranteed money for quarterbacks, even though it happened
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  Speaker 1: with Shaun Watson. So there's a lot there, and you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is very deserving of a huge contract, but
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I also understand why the Ravens. You know, you don't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: pay for past performance, you're paying for the future. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: with a quarterback who hasn't finished that season the last
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: couple of years. I understand the worry about wanting to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: see that one more time, maybe before you give a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: guaranteed deal. But I'm not inside that, So that's just
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sort of an observer's look. By the way, I speak
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: for yourself, I'm much better in my forties than I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was in my thirties. Job sprite more sprite must have
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: been bad thirties. We're looking forward. We're not paying for
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: past performance, preparing for future. Speaking of the Ravens, they've
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: released Klais Campbell. They saved seven million dollars off their
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: salary cap with that move. Of course we know Kleis
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: well here, would you on a one year try to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: get him? Yeah? Um, from what I have seen and heard,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he is still able to give you something in terms
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of interior disruption. So I mean, anybody who knows Calais
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and his relationship with the Jaguars and just him as
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a person, leader, player, all of that, you would absolutely
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: say yes, you'd loved him around. Um, whether that fits
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: what they want to do, what their vision is for
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: a team that wants to get younger and lighter on
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the cap. I don't know what money would be. You
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: know it. Every time you get a question like that,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: well would you do this, We'll do a lot of things.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: For the first question, how much would it cost? Would
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: he come for free? You know, fine, is he gonna
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: cost x amount of dollars? I don't know where their
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: number is there in theory, you would love to have
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: him on your roster, even if he's contributing. You know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: ten plays a game because there's gonna be no negative
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to it. It's no risk in terms of what you're
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: putting in that locker room. I'm all for it, but
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: money is always the issue on it. We'll come back
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in a moment, close it out. On a Tuesday morning,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it's Jags Drivetime on the Jaguars Digital Network. Move the Freight,
• 21:45
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• 21:51
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• 21:57
  Speaker 1: John Ozer, It's Jack's drivetime. It's Tuesday. It's almost I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: guess would be New Year's Eve officially if we're in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: league terms, because the New Year's tomorrow four five. But
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I think I think most Jaguars fans who really fought
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: closely get it. Yes it's New Year's Eve, but you're
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: far better off as a franchise if you are not
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: one of the teams that is signing five six seven guys.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Jaguar's credit Tranbaky for having remarkable success in that arena
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: last year, but it is not the way you want
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to go because and I think trying to be the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: first tell you this. Yes they had success, Yes they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: got guys doing that, but part of the reason that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: they're not able to do what they want to now
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with their own guys is because by definition, they had
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot to make up for some past
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: mistakes that have been before they got here. So yes,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: they had the success, but you would still rather have
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: this success in theory with draft picks because then you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: can structure your cap correctly. So they're trying to get
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to that point and it's tough to transfer into that,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and that's what they're having to do now, transferred to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a draft and developed team after playing in free agency
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a little more than you wanted to, albeit doing it
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: very well, which is why they made the playoffs last year.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So there's you never have your ideal in this business
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: shape you're always you know, and dealt with the hand.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I mean with the hand they were dealt, have gotten
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to this point. Now they have to sort of transfer
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: into being the kind of team that really maintains through
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: drafting and developing. That's what's next. It could be relatively
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: quiet this week compared to years past. Yeah, oh, so
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: far it has been, which means they're going to be
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: more in the second tier. Is fine because usually when
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're in the second tier, JP, it means you've done
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: very well the previous year. So and I think it
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: bodes well for the future as well. So enjoy the quiet, JP. Oh, yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the quiet is nice. Let's keep it quiet for a while. John,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow. Happy New Year, Happy new
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: League Year, I guess, Happy new Year. Let's go. Yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a heck of a night before the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: league year begins. The ball drops at four o'clock Eastern
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: tomorrow on the twenty twenty three NFL League Year. Thanks
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: for our entire crew, Thanks to you for watching for
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: John Osram, JP, Shadrick. It's Jags Drive Time on the
• 24:36
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