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- 0:21Speaker 2: You gotta Burt. Welcome to Let's Talk with Carl Lee.
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- 0:33Speaker 2: that conversation begin on Let's Talk.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, This is Carley with Let's Talk.
- 0:40Speaker 3: And I have in the building Lisa Odie the Football
- 0:44Speaker 3: clean and I got in also in studio, I got
- 0:48Speaker 3: Hollis Lewis. He usually I used to have to fire
- 0:52Speaker 3: Lisa before we even get on the show.
- 0:54Speaker 4: Well, let me say this, if anybody that's listening could
- 0:58Speaker 4: have heard the conversations between my two co hosts before
- 1:01Speaker 4: the show, they would know that I'm firing both of
- 1:04Speaker 4: them tonight.
- 1:06Speaker 3: You wouldn't have the right to do that. You got
- 1:09Speaker 3: to fire him because my my point was correct. We'll
- 1:16Speaker 3: talk different in between the breaks. NBA basketball a champion championship.
- 1:29Speaker 3: So for me, starting with understanding, like how do I
- 1:35Speaker 3: get into a game, what is it going to cost?
- 1:37Speaker 3: Me to get to the game. Can I afford to
- 1:40Speaker 3: get to the game? Absolutely?
- 1:45Speaker 4: Not.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Okay, before we even give any numbers, my question becomes like,
- 1:55Speaker 3: is it specifically? Are those types of games specifically for
- 2:01Speaker 3: former athletes? People that are rich, people that that that
- 2:06Speaker 3: that can that can afford to pay that kind of
- 2:10Speaker 3: money for the game? Do they even care that the
- 2:14Speaker 3: average individual individual cannot get into that game, even if
- 2:19Speaker 3: he took off a week just in order to get
- 2:22Speaker 3: to wherever he needed to get to, he can't get
- 2:24Speaker 3: into the game.
- 2:25Speaker 5: I don't think so.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I would say it's for corporate right, It's for your
- 2:31Speaker 3: for your corporate sponsors, for your big wigs. It's a
- 2:36Speaker 3: time and opportunity for them to be at the game.
- 2:39Speaker 3: But I also would say that I think sports leagues,
- 2:42Speaker 3: because I believe we talked about this with the Super
- 2:45Speaker 3: Bowl and also the National Championship. I just believe that
- 2:48Speaker 3: it's just a big missed opportunity, Like how great would
- 2:51Speaker 3: it be for like the average fan to be able
- 2:54Speaker 3: to afford those tickets? I mean, uh, you know, we'll
- 2:56Speaker 3: quote the prices here in a minute, but it's ludicrous.
- 2:58Speaker 3: I mean, you have to take could ball against your
- 3:01Speaker 3: four oh one k, you know what I mean, Yes,
- 3:03Speaker 3: take out cash and.
- 3:04Speaker 5: Some stocks, you know, for these tickets.
- 3:06Speaker 3: And and to your point, Houlss, that fan that has
- 3:11Speaker 3: followed you all year long, you know, living and dying
- 3:17Speaker 3: on you winning and losing. Yeah, compared to the person
- 3:20Speaker 3: who's going to the super Bowl, which could be you,
- 3:24Speaker 3: it may not even be the teams. They may not
- 3:26Speaker 3: care about either one of the teams. They're just gonna
- 3:28Speaker 3: go's gonna go. They're just gonna go because it's a
- 3:30Speaker 3: super Bowl and they have the they have the finances
- 3:32Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, And like I said, I think there's
- 3:35Speaker 3: definitely a place for events like this for like your
- 3:38Speaker 3: corporate big dogs, your politicians, the the you know, your
- 3:42Speaker 3: your officials and celebrities. It's definitely a place for them,
- 3:45Speaker 3: and they you definitely want them there. But there's also
- 3:47Speaker 3: a place where hey, a two to three hundred dollars
- 3:50Speaker 3: ticket should be you know, marketed and specifically marketed to
- 3:55Speaker 3: that average fan to allow them to come to the
- 3:58Speaker 3: game as well.
- 3:58Speaker 4: But you know, when it came to the super Bowl
- 4:01Speaker 4: or or the NBA Finals or you know, they're gonna
- 4:03Speaker 4: milk as much money out of that limited commodity as possible.
- 4:07Speaker 6: I mean, that's just the way it is.
- 4:08Speaker 4: I mean, if you'd like for me too, I can
- 4:09Speaker 4: quote some of these prices I looked up today for
- 4:13Speaker 4: and it depends.
- 4:14Speaker 6: On the venue.
- 4:15Speaker 4: We know that it's you know, they just finished the
- 4:17Speaker 4: series in San Antonio. Now they'll travel to Madison Square Garden.
- 4:21Speaker 4: The prices are significantly different for the Spurs series as
- 4:25Speaker 4: it's going to be in New York. So in San Antonio, uh,
- 4:30Speaker 4: you know, the prices to walk in just to get
- 4:33Speaker 4: in prices, you can get a ticket for eight hundred dollars,
- 4:36Speaker 4: which is you know, that's not San Antonio, that's in
- 4:39Speaker 4: San Antonio. Up to one thousand, seven hundred and fifty.
- 4:42Speaker 4: Those are get in prices. Okay, I'm sure that's what
- 4:47Speaker 4: get in prices include just the bad you know, the.
- 4:51Speaker 5: And that's before cheap seats.
- 4:53Speaker 6: Cheap seats.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, that's that's just a walk in, yes, okay.
- 4:57Speaker 4: But when you go to Madison Square and starting tonight,
- 5:02Speaker 4: your get in prices are five thousand dollars a ticket
- 5:05Speaker 4: to nine.
- 5:05Speaker 6: Thousand dollars a ticket.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Crazy if you want court side VIP, doesn't matter whether
- 5:10Speaker 4: you're in San Antonio or you're in New York, doesn't matter.
- 5:13Speaker 4: The price is run fifty thousand dollars a ticket. Those
- 5:17Speaker 4: are the cheap seats the courtyard or the court side
- 5:21Speaker 4: or the cheap court side cheap, well, that's just court side.
- 5:24Speaker 4: That's the cheapest ticket you can get to sit court
- 5:26Speaker 4: side is fifty thousand dollars, okay, And it can run
- 5:30Speaker 4: up to depending on what experience you want, probably what
- 5:33Speaker 4: you want included up to two hundred thousand dollars or
- 5:36Speaker 4: more per ticket.
- 5:37Speaker 5: I just hate everything about that.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Now we know why we see like Taylor Swift sitting
- 5:43Speaker 4: courtside and not Hollis Lewis Carlee.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I'm with you, Hollis because where's I mean, Okay, I
- 5:54Speaker 3: understanding that the NBA, the NFL, these organizations are well funded. Yeah,
- 6:04Speaker 3: and that's a good point that they're well funded. Players
- 6:09Speaker 3: are already they've got a contract, so they're they're fine,
- 6:16Speaker 3: what and where is the money? Who is who actually
- 6:21Speaker 3: is taking the money? The news is it? Is?
- 6:23Speaker 4: It?
- 6:24Speaker 3: Is it?
- 6:24Speaker 2: Like?
- 6:24Speaker 3: Okay? So is it ABC? NBC? I think, I think
- 6:29Speaker 3: to your point ly, so it's one of those opportunities
- 6:32Speaker 3: if you're a management team owner, you're just looking at hey,
- 6:35Speaker 3: this is an opportunity where we can probably make as
- 6:37Speaker 3: much money on these two or three games we're gonna
- 6:40Speaker 3: host as opposed to you know, fifty games in the
- 6:43Speaker 3: regular season. So I think it's you know, it's it's
- 6:46Speaker 3: they would probably market up his business, and again I
- 6:48Speaker 3: ain't got no problem with that necessarily, but I would
- 6:51Speaker 3: also say long term.
- 6:53Speaker 5: Give give, give the average fan and experience.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I just think it ought to be something where I'm saying,
- 6:58Speaker 3: if i'm it's like and I forget, I want to say,
- 7:01Speaker 3: maybe it's the Land of Braves or Falcons, or it's
- 7:04Speaker 3: one of it's a it's an NFL team, and maybe
- 7:07Speaker 3: even in Houston, Texas. But the owner specifically did something
- 7:11Speaker 3: where he made the price of food affordable. So you're
- 7:14Speaker 3: going to get like a two dollars hot dog, a
- 7:16Speaker 3: five dollars beer. You know you're not going to go
- 7:18Speaker 3: and you know, have to bust the bank in order
- 7:20Speaker 3: to like eat once you get to the game. And
- 7:22Speaker 3: I think that sort of sentiment or the players say
- 7:25Speaker 3: out say itself out in some capacity, you know what
- 7:28Speaker 3: I mean?
- 7:28Speaker 5: In some capacity?
- 7:30Speaker 3: When is it? When is it in sports and any
- 7:34Speaker 3: specific sport, Have we made enough money to your point
- 7:39Speaker 3: to be generous to the general public.
- 7:42Speaker 6: Who who who is never.
- 7:45Speaker 3: Dying to be able to be in a stadium to
- 7:48Speaker 3: watch a game? You know, when when is it going
- 7:51Speaker 3: to be okay to say, you know what, this season,
- 7:56Speaker 3: why don't we just make it affordable for any and
- 7:59Speaker 3: everybody that with like the man or like if you're
- 8:02Speaker 3: the owner of the like the Knicks or Spurs man,
- 8:04Speaker 3: just hey, I'm going to reserve a hundred tickets and
- 8:07Speaker 3: I'm going to go to this elementary school and I'm
- 8:09Speaker 3: going to bring you, and you and a student and
- 8:12Speaker 3: a parent can come, or some just do something.
- 8:15Speaker 4: I mean, they may do that during regular season. I
- 8:17Speaker 4: mean I don't know for sure, but I mean they're
- 8:19Speaker 4: not going to do it during the finals. I should,
- 8:22Speaker 4: they should, but they're not. I Mean, like I said,
- 8:24Speaker 4: this is a limited commodity. You know, they want they
- 8:28Speaker 4: want the star power because people are at home watching
- 8:30Speaker 4: it on TV. They want to see Taylor Swift courtside.
- 8:33Speaker 4: You know, they want to see the stars. I think
- 8:35Speaker 4: today they were showing some of the Knicks fans that
- 8:38Speaker 4: are you know, celebrities, and uh, you know that's part
- 8:41Speaker 4: of the I think the attraction of people sitting in
- 8:44Speaker 4: home watching an NBA Finals game is seeing who's there
- 8:47Speaker 4: at least for the women.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I would I would, I would agree with that. I
- 8:50Speaker 3: would agree with that. And again, what I'm talking about
- 8:52Speaker 3: not necessarily given like course eye tickets. I'm just saying, like,
- 8:55Speaker 3: you know, maybe the second row or second level, third level,
- 8:58Speaker 3: you know, just giving out some some tickets the general
- 9:00Speaker 3: public or making it affordable. But I would also say,
- 9:03Speaker 3: if you did have like courtside, if that and they
- 9:06Speaker 3: would never do this, but if you did have course,
- 9:08Speaker 3: ou would have some school children. I think that would
- 9:10Speaker 3: be more newsworthy than seeing Ben Affleck. I think.
- 9:13Speaker 6: Whoever, I'm with you, I totally agree.
- 9:15Speaker 4: But I'm saying just from the news or the broadcasting
- 9:18Speaker 4: part of it, you know, they want to bring in
- 9:20Speaker 4: people watching, they want ratings.
- 9:22Speaker 3: And if I'm an owner, and I would be looking for,
- 9:26Speaker 3: whether it be high school, whether it be middle school
- 9:31Speaker 3: or whatever, having an opportunity to find a place for
- 9:35Speaker 3: those kids to be able to come to the game
- 9:38Speaker 3: to get that experience. And they don't even have to
- 9:41Speaker 3: be an athlete. They could just it could be the
- 9:43Speaker 3: school of whatever grade and you just say, hey, come
- 9:48Speaker 3: to the game. We have an area in which we're
- 9:51Speaker 3: blocking off just for kids, and I think that would
- 9:55Speaker 3: be something special. Could you imagine, Let's go back to
- 9:58Speaker 3: the Jordan air and being young enough to be just
- 10:03Speaker 3: excited about him and you you're down somewhere close to
- 10:07Speaker 3: the court to see him and hear his voice, you
- 10:10Speaker 3: would never forget that. You create a fan. But let's
- 10:14Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's the economics of it. Far
- 10:17Speaker 3: as the games. You know, the Knicks has basically stole
- 10:21Speaker 3: two games from San Antonio. So they went to San
- 10:24Speaker 3: San Antonio, They're up to zero, they were behind it
- 10:28Speaker 3: where they were behind in the first game, pretty big,
- 10:30Speaker 3: came back they sort of it was yo yo in
- 10:33Speaker 3: the second game. So these have really been really really
- 10:36Speaker 3: good games. And it's and it's been like, at least
- 10:39Speaker 3: in my purview, more of a like like I was
- 10:42Speaker 3: saying before, like that traditional American basketball verse like a
- 10:45Speaker 3: European style of basketball.
- 10:47Speaker 5: And and you know, I'm a Wimby fan. I love Wemby.
- 10:50Speaker 3: I think he's good for the game, but I am
- 10:53Speaker 3: so disappointed in somebody eight feet tall doing the fade
- 10:59Speaker 3: away jump uppers from the free throw line. I mean,
- 11:03Speaker 3: and again, and this is Boumonti Jones. He had this.
- 11:05Speaker 3: He made this point because what we're seeing with Wemby
- 11:08Speaker 3: versus car Anthony Towns is you're seeing a tall versus
- 11:11Speaker 3: big big. Yeah, you know what I mean. You're seeing
- 11:13Speaker 3: somebody six' ten. Whatever he is two hundred and. Seventy
- 11:16Speaker 3: he looks about two d ninety pounds if you ask
- 11:19Speaker 3: me Versus, weinby who is you, know a? Stick BUT
- 11:23Speaker 3: i also, think LIKE i, Said i'm not expecting him
- 11:26Speaker 3: to go banging the post with, Him but, dude don't
- 11:28Speaker 3: be shooting three pointers and fade away jumpers and come.
- 11:31Speaker 6: On man se go, Ahead, Hey.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Carl the problem with the problem he has and the
- 11:37Speaker 3: reason he's shooting those kind of shots is because he understands.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Already i'm not the dude that needs to be down.
- 11:44Speaker 3: There i'm, not but you. Are you need be down.
- 11:48Speaker 3: There your position puts you, There your height demands you being.
- 11:52Speaker 3: There because what happens he just has a collection of bad.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Shots And i'm not saying, Again i'm not saying you
- 11:58Speaker 3: need to dig in the. POST i think you're about
- 12:00Speaker 3: twenty pounds away from. That he's, young so he needs a,
- 12:02Speaker 3: game AND i don't know how you do that on
- 12:04Speaker 3: an eight foot frame without affecting your your feet and
- 12:07Speaker 3: your tendant and your. Knees but you gotta figure out
- 12:10Speaker 3: a different little. Game you gotta get some jump hooks
- 12:12Speaker 3: of skyhooks. Something, yeah he can't be. Shooting but he can't.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Shoot he can't have the point guard pass him the,
- 12:17Speaker 3: shot and he takes pass him the ball and he
- 12:19Speaker 3: takes it from the three point every, time every.
- 12:21Speaker 6: Time but don't you think the keyword is? YOUNG i, mean.
- 12:25Speaker 5: He's what twenty.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one and this is his first, rodeo, right
- 12:30Speaker 4: the first?
- 12:30Speaker 3: Time?
- 12:31Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, SO i mean he's gonna make some bad.
- 12:33Speaker 4: Decisions he's he's just you, KNOW i, mean he's a
- 12:36Speaker 4: great player and, uh you, know he's done wonderful things
- 12:39Speaker 4: for The. Spurs BUT i think, that you, know right,
- 12:41Speaker 4: now he's just kind of MAYBE i don't, know just
- 12:43Speaker 4: th water a little. Bit, yeah maybe the spotlights of
- 12:47Speaker 4: making him a little, off you.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Know and if you're the decisions and if you're the,
- 12:52Speaker 3: coach how how hard do you push? HIM i think
- 12:55Speaker 3: you gotta push BECAUSE i MEAN i think so, Too
- 12:57Speaker 3: BUT i thinks. SHOT i would have thought that you
- 13:00Speaker 3: might have, said you, know you got to kind of
- 13:02Speaker 3: be a little bit easy on him or, whatever because
- 13:05Speaker 3: if if it's, Me i'm, thinking, like every time you, come,
- 13:08Speaker 3: look you gotta get down on the. Post you got
- 13:10Speaker 3: to post somebody up and get the ball and go
- 13:13Speaker 3: to the hole and dunk it on. It BUT i
- 13:14Speaker 3: would SAY i wouldn't even say that necessarily, because LIKE i,
- 13:18Speaker 3: SAID i. DON'T i think he's just going to have
- 13:20Speaker 3: a hard time fighting for a position Because carl Anty,
- 13:23Speaker 3: thoman he's a, big strong. Dude you're not going to
- 13:26Speaker 3: like get through. Him but What i'm saying is, like,
- 13:29Speaker 3: dude if you get the, ball the ball fifteen feet,
- 13:32Speaker 3: IN i don't want to see, fadeaways turn around and shoot. It,
- 13:36Speaker 3: like just turn, around keep the ball high and shoot.
- 13:39Speaker 3: It ain't nobody blocking your, shot. Broh there's nobody blocking.
- 13:42Speaker 3: It SO i just don't want to see. FADAWAYS i
- 13:44Speaker 3: want to see because when you're a three point shooter
- 13:47Speaker 3: at that size and you're shooting perimeter jump shots and
- 13:50Speaker 3: you have a hard time getting to the back because
- 13:52Speaker 3: again he has a hard time creating one on ones
- 13:54Speaker 3: because he's so, tall but he's dribbling the ball so
- 13:57Speaker 3: so he gets his pocket picked a, lot so it's
- 13:59Speaker 3: hard to get in a rhythm when you shoot those bad.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Shots So i'm just, saying when you get the ball
- 14:03Speaker 3: in the, interior turnaround and, shoot just don't just don't
- 14:07Speaker 3: do fade.
- 14:07Speaker 5: Aways that's my only.
- 14:10Speaker 6: Tonight just to see if he does. Fadeaways AND i
- 14:12Speaker 6: can just See hollis space at.
- 14:13Speaker 5: Home that's ALL i am.
- 14:16Speaker 4: Do the head forehead. Slap so this is just a
- 14:19Speaker 4: rematch of nineteen ninety NINE'S Nba finals and The spurs
- 14:23Speaker 4: won that. SERIES i think the story may end differently.
- 14:25Speaker 4: Tonight Tim duncans first, Year, yeah, Absolutely, Yeah but how.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Good is it to have The knicks back in the.
- 14:32Speaker 3: FINALS i think it's good for BAST i think it's.
- 14:34Speaker 3: GREAT i think it's amazing for. Basketball, okay WOULD i
- 14:38Speaker 3: would say anytime if you Have this is just me
- 14:41Speaker 3: being a little, biased And i've been told not to
- 14:45Speaker 3: use the, name So i'm not gonna use the.
- 14:47Speaker 4: Name BUT.
- 14:49Speaker 3: I think when you have The lakers, IN i think
- 14:52Speaker 3: that becomes like a major deal BECAUSE i don't know
- 14:55Speaker 3: what it is, for at least for, Me LIKE i
- 14:56Speaker 3: remember The lakers way back in the day always winning
- 15:00Speaker 3: and always somewhere in the. Championship so that's WHEN i think,
- 15:04Speaker 3: about you, know who's my who's the expectation of getting
- 15:10Speaker 3: to the. Championship i'm thinking Like, lakers But i'm saying
- 15:13Speaker 3: like when you got but The knicks one there. Too
- 15:16Speaker 3: no What i'm, saying But i'm just beyond just The
- 15:18Speaker 3: knicks and his. Franchise i'm Saying New York City american basketball.
- 15:24Speaker 3: Hub this is the, birthplace this is this is the
- 15:27Speaker 3: the you, know the the center Of american or it
- 15:31Speaker 3: used to be, anyway, Right AND i just think it's
- 15:33Speaker 3: a good look for THE nba to be back IN,
- 15:37Speaker 3: msg to to have The knicks representing you, know. Basketball
- 15:43Speaker 3: and Again i'm NOT i don't care who wins either,
- 15:45Speaker 3: way BUT i wouldn't be mad if The knicks won.
- 15:47Speaker 5: This, YEAH i think it'd be good for.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Bet i'm gonna throw this in, here, guys because we've
- 15:51Speaker 4: talked a lot about on here on this podcast ABOUT
- 15:53Speaker 4: nba viewership being, down and the numbers are up this
- 15:57Speaker 4: year significantly for The yeah, So game one viewership was
- 16:02Speaker 4: up ninety percent this year compared to twenty twenty.
- 16:06Speaker 6: Five, Yeah, so we've gone.
- 16:07Speaker 4: From eight point nine to one viewers last year to
- 16:11Speaker 4: sixteen point nine three views this.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Year and that shows you the power of not only The,
- 16:16Speaker 3: knicks But. Wimby yes, right, YES i was going to.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Stall do you think that is that star? Power is
- 16:23Speaker 3: that the league as a whole combination being competitive OR i.
- 16:29Speaker 3: DON'T i wouldn't say the. LEAGUE i would say It's
- 16:32Speaker 3: wimby And. KNICKS i think people want to see THE
- 16:35Speaker 3: i think people like watching The, knicks whether you're hate
- 16:37Speaker 3: watching or. Not it's a lot Of New York knicks
- 16:39Speaker 3: fans AND i THINK i know me specifically Is. WIMBY
- 16:43Speaker 3: i want to see what the a foot to tall
- 16:45Speaker 3: dude does and the you know in the. Championship SO
- 16:47Speaker 3: i think it's like the perfect storm BECAUSE i heard
- 16:50Speaker 3: that stat.
- 16:50Speaker 5: Earlier, yeah, NINETY i mean that's.
- 16:52Speaker 4: CRAZY i mean THE nba is dancing all the way
- 16:55Speaker 4: to the.
- 16:55Speaker 6: Bank that's why they.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Don't they don't want the lay man and they want
- 17:01Speaker 4: the celebrities.
- 17:02Speaker 3: There how much how? Much how much weight do you
- 17:06Speaker 3: think he needs to gain or or or just be?
- 17:10Speaker 3: Strong i'll say, This, yeah that's a good. Question so
- 17:13Speaker 3: he could really because if he gets to a size
- 17:17Speaker 3: that he can push. Back who can who's going to
- 17:22Speaker 3: be able to handle? HIM i would JUST i would,
- 17:23Speaker 3: SAY i would say just from my you, know my
- 17:26Speaker 3: conjecture would be anywhere from fifteen to twenty, pounds so
- 17:30Speaker 3: that way he can establish. Position BUT i would say
- 17:33Speaker 3: maybe even more than, that maybe even outside of gaining a,
- 17:36Speaker 3: way is just having a repertoire on the block or
- 17:39Speaker 3: in small, spaces, right because maybe if you can't gain the.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Weight and, again this is all what this is A
- 17:45Speaker 3: this is a you, know this is something you got
- 17:47Speaker 3: to be careful of just because he's so. Tall and you,
- 17:50Speaker 3: know those tall guys can have the feet problems and
- 17:52Speaker 3: the knee, problems you know What i'm, saying the hip,
- 17:54Speaker 3: problems in the back problems because they can't carry all their.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Weight so you got to be careful how you the weight.
- 18:00Speaker 3: On but even bigger than the, weight it's just having
- 18:02Speaker 3: about two to three go to moves in space and
- 18:06Speaker 3: in position when you're in the. Block so having a jump,
- 18:10Speaker 3: hook having a, skyhook having a you, know just a
- 18:13Speaker 3: hard drop, step just something that you can go to
- 18:16Speaker 3: you because he's not he's not locked into going to
- 18:20Speaker 3: going to the basket and just posting. Up, yeah AND
- 18:23Speaker 3: i think that may even be gone now for players
- 18:27Speaker 3: that are that tall and or, no he's that. Tall
- 18:31Speaker 3: but if you're if you're tall and you're, muscular you're
- 18:35Speaker 3: not you're not posting down load. ANYMORE i THINK i
- 18:38Speaker 3: think you. Are BUT i think, again a lot of
- 18:40Speaker 3: this skill set is moving away from. That you're writing,
- 18:42Speaker 3: that BUT i think when it comes down to championship,
- 18:44Speaker 3: Games conference championship, games when it comes down to those critical,
- 18:48Speaker 3: moments you still you gotta have that big that's either
- 18:51Speaker 3: going to be in there grabbing, boards pitting it, back
- 18:53Speaker 3: or can either scrap and get some points in the, basket,
- 18:56Speaker 3: because LIKE i, said when he's out of rhythm and
- 18:58Speaker 3: you're eight foot tall and shooting three, on it's hard
- 19:00Speaker 3: to get into a. Bath and we've seen that the
- 19:02Speaker 3: past couple of. GAMES i, mean he's, played he's played.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Decent i'm not trying to document he's played, decent BUT
- 19:07Speaker 3: i just think in order for him to have his
- 19:09Speaker 3: full expression of, dominance you gotta get you gotta have
- 19:13Speaker 3: some some uh some offensive moves down, there because, defensively he's,
- 19:17Speaker 3: brilliant he changes. Shots, yeah nobody's going to the basket with.
- 19:20Speaker 4: Him, Yeah So so do you think this is a
- 19:22Speaker 4: problem that he can he can fix during this series
- 19:25Speaker 4: or do you feel like this is something that The
- 19:27Speaker 4: knicks are going to dominate and.
- 19:28Speaker 6: SWEEP i don't.
- 19:29Speaker 3: KNOW i THINK i think THE i think The spurs
- 19:32Speaker 3: can get. ONE i think this IS i think The
- 19:34Speaker 3: knicks is going. ON i think The knicks will win.
- 19:36Speaker 3: IT i think The spurs can sneak one. IN i
- 19:40Speaker 3: don't know if he'll fix it during this. SERIES i
- 19:42Speaker 3: think WHAT i, MEAN i think we'll see. HIM i
- 19:44Speaker 3: think we'll see him make an effort to fix it
- 19:47Speaker 3: in the next couple of, games because he's got to
- 19:49Speaker 3: he's got to be a dominant threat for them to.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Win they got some good players on the, perimeter but
- 19:53Speaker 3: he's got to get. Going, YEAH i THINK i think
- 19:56Speaker 3: to your, Point, HOLLIS i think this is this is
- 20:00Speaker 3: going to show him where his quote weaknesses are and
- 20:06Speaker 3: what he might need to be better. At AND i
- 20:08Speaker 3: think the moment that that, happens that changes his skill
- 20:11Speaker 3: set and game takes it to a whole nother laft hundred.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Percent and he's that type of he's gonna be. That,
- 20:16Speaker 3: yeah he's gonna he's gonna take the time to understand
- 20:20Speaker 3: what AM i not doing that could make me a
- 20:24Speaker 3: step or two, Better BECAUSE i, mean even like that's
- 20:27Speaker 3: What i'm, saying even Like, Jordan jordan had all them,
- 20:29Speaker 3: years he had the first six seven, years and then
- 20:32Speaker 3: Once jordan got in the weight, room it was a
- 20:34Speaker 3: different story after.
- 20:36Speaker 5: That SO i think it's the same thing.
- 20:37Speaker 3: Now but again it's different in THAT i don't know
- 20:39Speaker 3: how a foot, DUDE i don't know how. YOU i
- 20:42Speaker 3: don't know how we do. That as far as weights
- 20:45Speaker 3: and gain, weight it's not.
- 20:47Speaker 6: Gonna happen in a few. DAYS i don't know how
- 20:50Speaker 6: we do.
- 20:50Speaker 4: That but you, know they've kind to find a way
- 20:52Speaker 4: to Slow Jalen brunson down. Too he's been captain klutch Right,
- 20:56Speaker 4: like he's been scoring like what thirty points or something a.
- 20:59Speaker 4: Game so if they if they can't stop, HIM i don't,
- 21:01Speaker 4: see they may not. Win they may not win a
- 21:03Speaker 4: game in this. Series but we'll.
- 21:05Speaker 3: See that's again when you go back old school, basketball
- 21:11Speaker 3: what you, have you had somebody inside and somebody who's
- 21:15Speaker 3: outside that can do can do the. Shooting if you have,
- 21:18Speaker 3: that chances are what you're probably gonna win because you
- 21:25Speaker 3: CAN'T i don't think that you can, cover you can
- 21:29Speaker 3: you can defense someone that you can that you got
- 21:33Speaker 3: down in the, post and then somebody that you can
- 21:35Speaker 3: that's got a. Shot we'll see well and in THE
- 21:40Speaker 3: nfl we'll move.
- 21:42Speaker 5: There and it's something close to your.
- 21:44Speaker 3: Heart so The, bears, now now AGAIN i didn't get
- 21:48Speaker 3: the full and you you can correct me That Hammond
- 21:54Speaker 3: bears give. Us so, well they maintain what that'd. Be
- 21:59Speaker 3: the will still be The Chicago. Bears but that's Playing, indiana.
- 22:04Speaker 6: That's what they're. SAYING i don't.
- 22:06Speaker 4: Know, Okay so basically at this, point they plan to
- 22:09Speaker 4: build a new, Dome dome, stadium a dome. Stadium, god
- 22:15Speaker 4: which that's even that's even harder for these some of
- 22:18Speaker 4: These bears, fans that's a hard pill to. Swallow it
- 22:21Speaker 4: will be in an entertainment district In, Hammond. Indiana, okay
- 22:24Speaker 4: how far is that away From.
- 22:25Speaker 5: Chicago it's not.
- 22:26Speaker 4: FAR i think it's fifteen to twenty, miles so it's
- 22:29Speaker 4: not like it's.
- 22:30Speaker 6: It's too far.
- 22:30Speaker 4: Away but, basically how we got to this point is
- 22:34Speaker 4: The illinois legislature they refused to pass property tax relief
- 22:39Speaker 4: for The bears to have a site In Arlington, heights
- 22:42Speaker 4: which is actually In. Chicago, okay so there is just
- 22:46Speaker 4: mass chaos going on politically with with the the athletes
- 22:51Speaker 4: that the cultural controversy first of, all puts sports. Aside
- 22:56Speaker 4: the state Of illinois is going to be losing like
- 22:58Speaker 4: six thousand constructions and billions of economic you, know economic,
- 23:03Speaker 4: impacts taxes and all, that just because they wouldn't give
- 23:06Speaker 4: them the. Break so basically they will be at this,
- 23:10Speaker 4: point the governor says that they will remain The Chicago.
- 23:13Speaker 6: Bears but you think about.
- 23:14Speaker 4: It you, know they're Receiving indiana taxpayer dollars and and
- 23:19Speaker 4: but they'll still.
- 23:19Speaker 6: Have the name of An illinois you know, City.
- 23:22Speaker 3: CHICAGO i, MEAN i guess it's like The New York
- 23:24Speaker 3: jets they Play New.
- 23:25Speaker 4: Jersey, yeah that's the point people. Fans of, course My
- 23:28Speaker 4: Chicago bear fans are making that.
- 23:29Speaker 6: Point, well not every you, know team has to be
- 23:32Speaker 6: from the city that they're named or. WHATEVER i.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Mean to, me it's just it's but WHEN i for,
- 23:37Speaker 3: me like WHEN i think of The, Bears i'm thinking Cold,
- 23:39Speaker 3: weather not say, yes, YEAH i don't know. Why, like
- 23:43Speaker 3: let me ask you, this, like do you think that's
- 23:47Speaker 3: a strategic disadvantage for them building a. Dome, absolutely why
- 23:52Speaker 3: would you do? That absolutely because nobody will Ask. Minnesota
- 23:56Speaker 3: yeah it's different but, Here, Okay but to your, point.
- 24:01Speaker 5: It's way worse In. Minnesota it's way.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Worse SO i don't think they're all.
- 24:05Speaker 6: NORTH i, mean but.
- 24:07Speaker 3: The good thing about anybody coming To minnesota in the
- 24:12Speaker 3: winner is we'll be. Inside so to your, advantage our
- 24:18Speaker 3: advantage of we know we're going to be, inside we
- 24:20Speaker 3: only have a couple Of but is that an advantage
- 24:22Speaker 3: to you or that's advantage to? That that's that equals
- 24:25Speaker 3: the playing, field, right it does equal. It but for,
- 24:30Speaker 3: again thinking about going To chicago and you start talking
- 24:33Speaker 3: About November, december, bright you already know like it's gonna
- 24:38Speaker 3: be it's gonna be. Cold we're practicing outside because we
- 24:43Speaker 3: already were preparing for how cold is going to be.
- 24:45Speaker 5: THERE i think it hurts that conference because now you.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Get you, got you got two, games you, got you
- 24:52Speaker 3: Got minnesota. Indoors chicago is going to be. Indoors, Uh
- 24:57Speaker 3: detroit indoors. Doors the only ones who's outdoors Is Lambeau Green.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Bay SO i think to, me they're going to have the.
- 25:04Speaker 3: ADVANTAGE i think in that, situation and it's part of their, lore.
- 25:08Speaker 6: You, KNOW i, mean the founding fathers of.
- 25:12Speaker 3: This, really this is bad. GOVERNMENT i gotta say. It
- 25:16Speaker 3: it doesn't it doesn't Feel it doesn't feel good at
- 25:19Speaker 3: all to.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Me it.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Doesn't as much AS i hated to go play one
- 25:23Speaker 3: of those teams in the, WINTER i can't imagine like
- 25:27Speaker 3: literally almost every team in the conference being, indoors you,
- 25:32Speaker 3: Know and now you're, like, well, shoot we're, indoors you're
- 25:35Speaker 3: all basically year. Round so so did AND i need
- 25:40Speaker 3: to do a little bit more research on the. Subject
- 25:42Speaker 3: did The Chicago? Bears did they want to build an
- 25:44Speaker 3: indoors stadium In chicago or they wanted to keep it?
- 25:47Speaker 5: Outside?
- 25:47Speaker 4: Yeah they want excuse, me, no they wanted To they
- 25:50Speaker 4: wanted the, dome.
- 25:51Speaker 5: So they want to do.
- 25:53Speaker 6: Regardless of where it.
- 25:53Speaker 4: Is they just wanted it to be actually In, illinois
- 25:57Speaker 4: in a place Called Arlington.
- 25:58Speaker 6: HEIGHTS i believe it.
- 25:59Speaker 3: Was so why why? Again this IS i guess. IT
- 26:04Speaker 3: i want the Dot why want The? DOME i guess
- 26:06Speaker 3: they just want to have a clean. Football they don't
- 26:08Speaker 3: want to play it outside. Anymore to your, point this
- 26:11Speaker 3: is like. Historic this has seemed like something that the
- 26:13Speaker 3: league would step in and, say come, on hold, up
- 26:15Speaker 3: SEE i think this was the weather that. BAD i
- 26:19Speaker 3: think the ownership and or leadership of the team has,
- 26:22Speaker 3: changed you, know has probably, changed and so you don't
- 26:26Speaker 3: have that. History you don't have that the mystique of
- 26:29Speaker 3: what it was like the coat to go.
- 26:31Speaker 6: To it's a Place. Chicago it's about.
- 26:34Speaker 4: Money they want a bigger stadium with a dome where
- 26:37Speaker 4: fans will come when it's cold to the game regardless
- 26:40Speaker 4: of what the weather.
- 26:41Speaker 6: Is they know they're going to be.
- 26:42Speaker 4: Warm, Okay they're going to have all these entertainment hot
- 26:45Speaker 4: spots built around the. Stadium Soldier field doesn't have all.
- 26:48Speaker 4: That Soldier field is an old, field kind of like
- 26:50Speaker 4: Lambeau field, is and you know they want to upgrade
- 26:53Speaker 4: to bring in more money and more.
- 26:55Speaker 3: Fans in my, opinion, NOW i haven't heard from any
- 26:59Speaker 3: former any of their great former players saying anything as of.
- 27:03Speaker 3: YET i was looking for, that BUT i hadn't heard
- 27:06Speaker 3: anybody like A singletary or somebody like that what his
- 27:11Speaker 3: comments or what their comments may. Be Because i'm thinking that.
- 27:15Speaker 3: THERE i think what you've done is You've it's like
- 27:22Speaker 3: you just stuck a knife in in what they believed
- 27:26Speaker 3: in in playing in that, cold because we did the same.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Thing we did the same thing To Carl eller And
- 27:33Speaker 3: Alan page and all those kind of guys that were
- 27:35Speaker 3: playing out in the. Cold all of a, sudden you,
- 27:37Speaker 3: know you go. Doom you know.
- 27:39Speaker 4: That that advantage is. GONE i, mean you think about
- 27:41Speaker 4: it if you Have jacksonville or a team From, CALIFORNIA
- 27:46Speaker 4: i mean advantage because you're you playing that all the
- 27:50Speaker 4: time and they, Don't SO.
- 27:51Speaker 3: I would do do you? Haven't like we need to
- 27:53Speaker 3: bring like a Former Chicago bear on the show to figure,
- 27:56Speaker 3: it like to see what they're like the insider thoughts
- 27:59Speaker 3: are because to, ME i MEAN i see a bout
- 28:01Speaker 3: ways from like a business, standpoint obviously you know that's,
- 28:04Speaker 3: there but from a historical AND i, don't LIKE i,
- 28:07Speaker 3: said just an advantage because has have any team like
- 28:11Speaker 3: far as that went from those those colder teams specifically
- 28:14Speaker 3: that went from outdoor to? Indoor have they ever have
- 28:18Speaker 3: they won a championship Like minnesota has?
- 28:21Speaker 1: It we.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Haven't buffalo was, outdoor they, haven't you, know like do
- 28:29Speaker 3: they you, know uh In? Seattle are they they're? Outdoor?
- 28:33Speaker 3: THERE i think they're. INDOORY i can see why they
- 28:42Speaker 3: would want to, do but it just seems, like dang,
- 28:46Speaker 3: man In, november you got to travel To.
- 28:47Speaker 5: Chicago now you. Can you don't have the you.
- 28:50Speaker 4: Don't have to take the mystique away from, that the you,
- 28:53Speaker 4: know THE Nfc NORTH i, MEAN i, mean but now that.
- 28:57Speaker 6: It's it's you, know it's it can be. Anywhere, yeah
- 29:00Speaker 6: because because just from.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Just just from some of the, players former players for The,
- 29:09Speaker 3: vikings who were you, know who played, outdoors and you,
- 29:14Speaker 3: know if you were to if you were to ask,
- 29:16Speaker 3: them And I'm i'm assuming, this you couldn't get them
- 29:20Speaker 3: to say they would want to play indoors because because
- 29:25Speaker 3: because that's exactly, right they believe that that, cold they
- 29:29Speaker 3: could endure it and it and and play like normal
- 29:34Speaker 3: when the other teams over there like freezing trying to
- 29:37Speaker 3: figure out how they're gonna make it through the, halftime you.
- 29:40Speaker 4: Know AND i, THINK i JUST i just wonder if
- 29:43Speaker 4: that Means lambo's time is is like limited.
- 29:46Speaker 6: NOW i don't think so either.
- 29:48Speaker 3: That he AND i hope you're, right BUT i think
- 29:54Speaker 3: at the end of the, day when you start looking
- 29:56Speaker 3: around and you're looking at all these places that get,
- 30:00Speaker 3: cold all of them have gone. Indoors you if you think, like,
- 30:05Speaker 3: well we're gonna be the one that's gonna stay, OUTDOORS
- 30:09Speaker 3: i don't think that's the thought. PROCESS i think that
- 30:11Speaker 3: is going along with the. Norm let's let's we should
- 30:15Speaker 3: be considering getting a dome or something for our for our.
- 30:19Speaker 4: TEAM i don't think, so because The packers are owned
- 30:21Speaker 4: by the. People you, know, well we don't have an
- 30:24Speaker 4: owner so to. Speak it's gonna try to plus if
- 30:27Speaker 4: you've been, THERE i don't know if you if you
- 30:28Speaker 4: guys ever been and you, have BUT i mean that
- 30:31Speaker 4: that's the center Of Green. BAY i mean that is
- 30:33Speaker 4: their whole. Life they shut the city down to run
- 30:36Speaker 4: the K rt buses to the. Field, literally it's you,
- 30:39Speaker 4: know it's just and it's a it's a great.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Atmosphere and the natural grass still, too right nat. Grass
- 30:44Speaker 3: so that'll be the last team in THE Nc north
- 30:46Speaker 3: with natural. Grass, well so all the other teams think about.
- 30:50Speaker 3: That you, know the field for The viking literally had
- 30:53Speaker 3: phield turf and a, dome and that'll be the last.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Team so, again you're a Green bay, fan this might
- 30:58Speaker 3: be to y'all's.
- 30:59Speaker 6: Advantage, Yeah, yeah we'll see because it's gonna be.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Hard it's gonna be hard to go To Green. Bay,
- 31:04Speaker 3: yeah nobody's gonna to It october Through. December it's gonna.
- 31:09Speaker 6: Be it always.
- 31:12Speaker 4: Is so.
- 31:16Speaker 3: What else do we have?
- 31:17Speaker 6: HERE Wv, yeah we could talk about w or the.
- 31:21Speaker 6: Basketball let's go.
- 31:23Speaker 5: Basketball let's finish.
- 31:26Speaker 6: How you brought this?
- 31:26Speaker 4: Up the W V s s A c made some
- 31:28Speaker 4: changes to the boys High spital? Basketball can you kind of, well.
- 31:33Speaker 3: And Again i'm not an, expert but it's been a
- 31:35Speaker 3: lot of changes as far as they changed the regional
- 31:38Speaker 3: makeup BECAUSE i know they took the coaches out of.
- 31:40Speaker 3: It AM i? Correct they took the coaches because now
- 31:43Speaker 3: like when you had those regional, rankings the situation that
- 31:45Speaker 3: happened On capitol last, year Cauch site. Committed, yeah but
- 31:48Speaker 3: The capitol was like basically number one, team number two
- 31:50Speaker 3: team in the in the in the in the in the.
- 31:54Speaker 3: State then what happened was is that when they go
- 31:56Speaker 3: to regional, seating they got ranked at the bottom because
- 31:59Speaker 3: you have some coaches, losing WHICH i still don't know
- 32:01Speaker 3: how that how we just not doing anything about that knowing,
- 32:04Speaker 3: that but now you can probably bust down the details for.
- 32:07Speaker 6: Me so oh, yeah so that was the main.
- 32:10Speaker 4: ONE i think that was the most interest to everybody
- 32:12Speaker 4: because of what happened To capital this past. Spring there's
- 32:14Speaker 4: also a mercy, role WHICH i found this was pretty.
- 32:17Speaker 4: Interesting so if a team two high school teams are
- 32:20Speaker 4: playing and one team is up thirty five or more, Points,
- 32:24Speaker 4: uh if there's a score, differential when when you get
- 32:26Speaker 4: to the fourth, quarter they shorten it to four.
- 32:27Speaker 6: Minutes they, don't they don't do.
- 32:29Speaker 1: That, NOW.
- 32:32Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with. That what's your problem with?
- 32:34Speaker 3: IT i would, say like if it was, fifty BUT
- 32:36Speaker 3: i think thirty. Five, shoot you can come back in
- 32:38Speaker 3: basketball in high school you can come back if you get.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Hot you have to past ten to three. Pointers but
- 32:45Speaker 3: also IT'S i think IT'S i think it's. Timing but and, Unfortunately,
- 32:52Speaker 3: Hollis i'm gonna have to go with you.
- 32:55Speaker 4: What, YEAH i, know SEE i knew this moves before
- 32:59Speaker 4: the show would just carry over and you guys are
- 33:01Speaker 4: just gang up on.
- 33:02Speaker 6: Me but let's think.
- 33:02Speaker 3: THAT i just don't know If i'm okay with like.
- 33:08Speaker 3: THAT i just, yeah play the, game finish the.
- 33:12Speaker 5: Game at that.
- 33:13Speaker 4: POINT i, mean but you have some of these schools
- 33:15Speaker 4: that barely can field a, team and let's say they've
- 33:18Speaker 4: scheduled you, know and this is just far, fetched but
- 33:21Speaker 4: they've scheduled capital to play and they're, down you, know
- 33:25Speaker 4: the first half by you, know thirty five.
- 33:28Speaker 6: POINTS i, MEAN i.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Put the blame, ON i put the THE i don't
- 33:33Speaker 3: know IF i want to say, blame but the obligation
- 33:36Speaker 3: to the team that's winning to empty the bench and
- 33:41Speaker 3: play other players in that.
- 33:42Speaker 4: Situation THEN i mean sometimes the other team that the
- 33:45Speaker 4: only guys they have are the guys that are on the.
- 33:47Speaker 4: COURT i, mean you think about some of these smaller high.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Schools, well my thing, IS i don't have a problem
- 33:52Speaker 3: with the mercy. RULE i just have a problem with
- 33:54Speaker 3: the point that they're, saying like if you're down by
- 33:56Speaker 3: fifty and, fine.
- 33:57Speaker 6: BUT i think thirty.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Five BUT i think thirty five you can come back
- 34:00Speaker 3: from thirty. Five and if you're if you're, down if
- 34:03Speaker 3: you're down seventy to thirty five going into the fourth,
- 34:06Speaker 3: quarter you can come back from.
- 34:07Speaker 4: That AND i wonder if it's up to the, coach
- 34:09Speaker 4: like does the coach want to implet like LIKE, Bg,
- 34:12Speaker 4: Yeah like does is it.
- 34:13Speaker 6: AUTOMATIC i didn't get that.
- 34:15Speaker 5: Far, well no football is, automatic like if you're down by.
- 34:18Speaker 4: Yeah BECAUSE i would think the coach would have to
- 34:21Speaker 4: say if you know whether or not they wanted to
- 34:23Speaker 4: follow the.
- 34:23Speaker 6: MERCIER i don't know. That that's just WHAT i. Read
- 34:26Speaker 6: that'd be interesting to find out if that's the.
- 34:28Speaker 3: Case and then the transfer, rule then another rule they changed.
- 34:32Speaker 3: Again we talked about, that so that'll be. CHANGED i
- 34:34Speaker 3: THINK i want to, Say, june yes that, yeah so
- 34:37Speaker 3: that changed this. Month tell me what the changes? Me
- 34:40Speaker 3: tell me. What so, essentially what happens now is that
- 34:43Speaker 3: you can transfer during freshman and sophomore, year so you
- 34:48Speaker 3: can you're free to, transfer your free to to to
- 34:51Speaker 3: and you won't lose.
- 34:51Speaker 5: Eligibility but if.
- 34:53Speaker 3: You transfer after do excuse, me during your junior and senior,
- 34:57Speaker 3: year then you would lose eligibility unless you, know you
- 35:00Speaker 3: had some sort of extinguating. Circumstances so so that would
- 35:05Speaker 3: be that's kind of the nuts and boats of the.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Rules so, BASICALLY i think what they're trying to prevent
- 35:10Speaker 3: is upper classmen is from leaving their established program going
- 35:13Speaker 3: to other. Programs what's your what's your take on? It
- 35:16Speaker 3: what do you you like. IT i, mean, again this
- 35:20Speaker 3: goes into a much deeper conversation beyond sports BECAUSE i
- 35:24Speaker 3: think that you, know we're we're doing one thing on
- 35:27Speaker 3: one hand and then doing this on the, other which
- 35:29Speaker 3: is problematic when you talk about screen. Choice BUT i
- 35:33Speaker 3: think as a WHOLE i understand. It and again there's
- 35:37Speaker 3: again you're always going to have the appeal. Process so
- 35:40Speaker 3: if there's something going on where you like have to
- 35:42Speaker 3: leave or you, know it's not a good, situation AND
- 35:44Speaker 3: i think it's it's some it's some loopholes in, there
- 35:47Speaker 3: like if your coach leave or if you got different
- 35:48Speaker 3: things going on like, that then then you can go
- 35:51Speaker 3: ahead and.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Go But.
- 35:54Speaker 3: I'm kind of, Man i'm kind.
- 35:55Speaker 5: Of like just in the middle on. IT i don't
- 35:57Speaker 5: really have a problem either.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Way, See I'M i think for for for, Me i'd
- 36:04Speaker 3: like to make the case THAT i would give you
- 36:08Speaker 3: one year to make a decision if you you, know,
- 36:11Speaker 3: So i'm In South Charleston High school for one year
- 36:15Speaker 3: my freshman, year so IF i don't like anything about,
- 36:18Speaker 3: IT i can go somewhere. Else okay after, that and
- 36:23Speaker 3: this is in, sports SO i could go. Somewhere but
- 36:27Speaker 3: if but If i'm going to Spend IF i stay
- 36:30Speaker 3: for two, years you can't. Go why why are you
- 36:37Speaker 3: trying to go? SOMEWHERE i, mean and not that you're
- 36:40Speaker 3: even trying to go. Somewhere why would you go somewhere
- 36:42Speaker 3: after two years, unless especially unless you're a baller, now
- 36:48Speaker 3: because you can go play anywhere you, want right because
- 36:50Speaker 3: you're because you're. Good but the kid that's not that,
- 36:53Speaker 3: talented he can't go anywhere we can and go from
- 36:59Speaker 3: one events to the. Next and who wants to do?
- 37:01Speaker 3: That BUT i, MEAN i THINK i think there's situations in,
- 37:04Speaker 3: which you, know LIKE i, said if it depends on the,
- 37:07Speaker 3: offense the, defense if there's a new coach coming, in
- 37:09Speaker 3: it depends on. Situations because LIKE i, said all programs
- 37:13Speaker 3: are not created equal and and all coaches aren't created.
- 37:15Speaker 3: Equal SO i could see a situation in which a
- 37:18Speaker 3: kid would need to leave in order to you, know
- 37:21Speaker 3: fulfill His if we're, talking if we're talking straight, sports
- 37:25Speaker 3: i'm with. You if you're talking life, LESSONS i. DON'T
- 37:28Speaker 3: i can't go with, you and you wouldn't you you
- 37:30Speaker 3: you wouldn't.
- 37:31Speaker 5: Either but, again this is what it.
- 37:34Speaker 3: Is it's not like you, know this is happening because,
- 37:38Speaker 3: yeah to have at the college level and. Everything so
- 37:40Speaker 3: it's this is what it. Is AND i think AND
- 37:43Speaker 3: i think the see And I'm i'm just old enough
- 37:46Speaker 3: in old school enough to WHERE i still think that
- 37:50Speaker 3: that that sports should still be about life. Lessons and
- 37:56Speaker 3: sometimes you got. It you're you you might have a
- 37:58Speaker 3: job that you don't that you may not, like but
- 38:00Speaker 3: you can't leave. It you, know you're stuck in. It
- 38:03Speaker 3: not necessarily you know you, might but but you may
- 38:07Speaker 3: not get what you. Want all those kind of.
- 38:08Speaker 5: Things but that's the life.
- 38:09Speaker 3: Lesson to the life lesson is just like if you
- 38:11Speaker 3: go from one place to the, Next, hey it might
- 38:13Speaker 3: the grass may not be, greener and you may just
- 38:16Speaker 3: fall off a cliff. There now you've got to regroup.
- 38:18Speaker 5: Again so.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Just lifeless either way. Too and and to that, Though
- 38:24Speaker 3: i'm looking at it and, Saying i'm going to this,
- 38:28Speaker 3: elementary this middle, school this high school BECAUSE i live
- 38:32Speaker 3: in this particular. Area i'm gonna play sports for this,
- 38:35Speaker 3: team that, team and that team because that's the that's
- 38:38Speaker 3: what the team is associated with the.
- 38:41Speaker 5: School but it's not that.
- 38:43Speaker 6: Way not with social.
- 38:45Speaker 3: MEDIA i know each other, understand there's.
- 38:49Speaker 6: Not the strong loyalty ties that there used to. Be
- 38:52Speaker 6: because all these kids all know each.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Other you can't, go you can't enter you can't even
- 38:56Speaker 3: like sort of enter the argument that way because it's
- 38:59Speaker 3: just that's that's not what it.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Is what are you?
- 39:02Speaker 3: Going? Okay, okay my? Question what do you? Okay so
- 39:06Speaker 3: when you, transfer what is the? Motive it could be
- 39:09Speaker 3: a motive you you could be a different, offense different,
- 39:12Speaker 3: defense better plan, time you want to play with your
- 39:14Speaker 3: buddies over.
- 39:14Speaker 5: Here it could.
- 39:15Speaker 3: Be it doesn't to.
- 39:16Speaker 5: Me the reason doesn't really. Matter it just could be
- 39:19Speaker 5: for whatever.
- 39:20Speaker 6: FACILITIES i, mean it could be a. Maturity but it
- 39:23Speaker 6: may not.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Matter it may not. Matter but you could put yourself
- 39:28Speaker 3: in a situation that could be way worse than what
- 39:31Speaker 3: it is for a life. Lesson it's life lessons no
- 39:34Speaker 3: matter how you go at. This so you can put
- 39:36Speaker 3: yourself in where you make a good, decision or you
- 39:38Speaker 3: can And i've seen a bunch of kids that just
- 39:41Speaker 3: are trying to transfer back because they made the wrong.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Decision so it's gonna be a life lesson regardless of
- 39:46Speaker 3: how you do your analysis to. Move do we know
- 39:49Speaker 3: do we know somebody who transferred that that truly benefited
- 39:55Speaker 3: more than what they would have done if they have.
- 39:56Speaker 3: STAYED i know a couple of, KIDS i mean a
- 39:59Speaker 3: couple of kids. TRANSFER i know. SEVERAL i ain't gonna say,
- 40:01Speaker 3: several BUT i know two or three kids that definitely
- 40:04Speaker 3: benefited more they try. Again they transferred out of, state
- 40:07Speaker 3: transferred to schools you, know in different. States that seems
- 40:10Speaker 3: to have benefit to put themselves more on the national.
- 40:13Speaker 3: PLATFORM i know some kids locally who, transferred and it
- 40:18Speaker 3: appears as though there again that they're doing better at
- 40:22Speaker 3: their new school as far as they're getting scholarship, offers
- 40:26Speaker 3: like now would they have. Not that's and again that's
- 40:29Speaker 3: MAYBE i don't know that, part but it appears that
- 40:32Speaker 3: it appeers are doing, better you know What i'm. Saying
- 40:34Speaker 3: so it appears that in some situations it's worked. Out other,
- 40:37Speaker 3: kids it hasn't worked. Out, so LIKE i, said it's
- 40:40Speaker 3: just LIKE i, SAID i think the problem that we're
- 40:42Speaker 3: facing is a problem in, which you, know we're seeing
- 40:46Speaker 3: To lisa's, point you seeing these things happen at the youth,
- 40:49Speaker 3: level and then you have social media and all these.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Things so the thought process of kids living in a
- 40:56Speaker 3: neighborhood they don't live and they're not bound to that
- 40:59Speaker 3: neighborhood where they're bound. TO i would like their, say
- 41:03Speaker 3: almost the world because they're seeing the. World so they're
- 41:05Speaker 3: seeing their, buddies they're seeing they're getting friendship with, kids
- 41:08Speaker 3: have work across the, county so it's not like it, Was,
- 41:12Speaker 3: yeah travel, Ball SO i, think to, me you, know
- 41:15Speaker 3: when that's a different, show that's kind of the heart
- 41:17Speaker 3: of the issue and the.
- 41:17Speaker 4: Problem so, well there was one more, piece guys that
- 41:21Speaker 4: will run over real quick that THAT i saw that
- 41:23Speaker 4: that kind of stood out to. Me they're kind of
- 41:26Speaker 4: redistricting so to. Speak that The TRIPLE a. Licensed did
- 41:31Speaker 4: you see? That so instead of having a region like
- 41:33Speaker 4: they had four, regions they've combined region one and two
- 41:36Speaker 4: and making that The north, region and then they're combining
- 41:39Speaker 4: three and four to make A south, region which makes
- 41:41Speaker 4: you know sense, geographically you, know they're pretty much in
- 41:45Speaker 4: Line north And south schools.
- 41:46Speaker 6: Together but my question for you, guys is is that going.
- 41:49Speaker 4: To effect who goes to the coliseum In march for
- 41:53Speaker 4: the boys basketball.
- 41:54Speaker 5: TOURNAMENT i think it. DOES i was going to, say
- 41:56Speaker 5: because they're doing it like The QUAD A, Right, YEAH
- 42:00Speaker 5: i don't know.
- 42:01Speaker 3: HOW i don't know how it wouldn't because now because
- 42:04Speaker 3: now these are conference these are conference teams that you're,
- 42:08Speaker 3: playing and if.
- 42:09Speaker 4: You, lose less opportunities for these kids to make playoffs
- 42:13Speaker 4: because there's less, regionals, RIGHT i don't, know BUT i.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Think That and maybe we could bring somebody from the
- 42:19Speaker 3: W S i S a to kind of break it
- 42:20Speaker 3: down more more. Detail BUT i think they're just trying
- 42:23Speaker 3: to BECAUSE i know it mirrors the THE i, know
- 42:28Speaker 3: Like quaida they have like the top ranked, teams they'll
- 42:30Speaker 3: have buyers in the, regional different things of that. Nature
- 42:33Speaker 3: SO i think it'll all equal. Out it's just you're
- 42:35Speaker 3: going to be playing within your regional not have to
- 42:37Speaker 3: like like for, Example capital wouldn't have to go to
- 42:40Speaker 3: Like North marion or. Whatever you know What i'm, Saying
- 42:43Speaker 3: state senior lesson to, travel AND i THINK i THINK
- 42:47Speaker 3: i think in in playoff, TIME i, think especially on
- 42:52Speaker 3: the high school, LEVEL i do like the closeness the,
- 42:57Speaker 3: regional like the play, rivalry but now you're facing rivals
- 43:02Speaker 3: and all that kind of, stuff and then the travel
- 43:05Speaker 3: is not impacting winning and losing a lot of times
- 43:10Speaker 3: where and then once you get, once you once you
- 43:14Speaker 3: get out of the. Conference now it is it's fair.
- 43:17Speaker 5: GAME i don't.
- 43:18Speaker 3: KNOW i like to see us do Like kentucky and
- 43:20Speaker 3: just have like a big jumbalaya of all the teams
- 43:22Speaker 3: across all the different divisions and and and levels and
- 43:27Speaker 3: just come to the come to the coliseums and play
- 43:31Speaker 3: it out Having, Yeah i'm, saying no, level just Like.
- 43:36Speaker 5: Kentucky everybody just.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Come you just play it. OUT i think we talked
- 43:39Speaker 3: about it When justin was, here to have like you'll
- 43:41Speaker 3: have like your crown champion for like single a double
- 43:44Speaker 3: a TRIPLE. A but eventually everybody gonna play and then
- 43:48Speaker 3: you just have one grand. Champion LIKE i would like
- 43:50Speaker 3: to see it like, That, yeah because you're gonna have
- 43:53Speaker 3: some at times you might have that with that ye,
- 43:57Speaker 3: Especially but it depends because when you got the, trap
- 44:01Speaker 3: when you got the private, schools and maybe MAYBE i
- 44:04Speaker 3: can get a big couple of kids because of. Basketball
- 44:07Speaker 3: you gotta remember this ain't. Football you need you just.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Need you don't need a whole. Bunch and if you
- 44:13Speaker 3: and you full around and have a player that can
- 44:16Speaker 3: play down low and one that can, shoot telling you
- 44:21Speaker 3: you're gonna be a tough, team you got a couple
- 44:25Speaker 3: of kids who can go one to rebound and a
- 44:27Speaker 3: couple that can, shoot and you never.
- 44:30Speaker 6: Pull in some big crowds for. That having the champions
- 44:33Speaker 6: play each other.
- 44:34Speaker 3: Great, well, okay to the to the, crowd do we
- 44:39Speaker 3: need to do some of these things specifically to to
- 44:44Speaker 3: grow the? Crowds have the? Crowds do you think that
- 44:47Speaker 3: the crowds have kind of like declined a little? Bit
- 44:51Speaker 3: and and do we do we need to do these
- 44:53Speaker 3: things in order to To lisa's, POINT i just think
- 44:57Speaker 3: it's an opportunity to take full advantage of the way.
- 45:00Speaker 3: Weekend i'm, saying if we're going to be here for
- 45:02Speaker 3: that week and then we got those championship games on
- 45:05Speaker 3: That saturday And, sunday let's move them to That. Monday
- 45:08Speaker 3: And i'm saying you, YOU i couldn't imagine if people just,
- 45:10Speaker 3: say let's go ahead and just schools out for this
- 45:13Speaker 3: day and let's take advantage of everything that we got.
- 45:15Speaker 3: Going AND i think it would be. Crazy so you
- 45:18Speaker 3: you're going all the way to like schools out On, monday?
- 45:21Speaker 3: Schools why?
- 45:22Speaker 4: Not this is?
- 45:23Speaker 3: It they can do, It this will be, awesome it'll.
- 45:27Speaker 3: Happen women have The girls and the boys Games grand
- 45:31Speaker 3: Champions this will be.
- 45:32Speaker 6: Awesome pulling more money.
- 45:33Speaker 4: TOO i, mean you have people staying in hotels that
- 45:35Speaker 4: don't live in the, AREA i mean.
- 45:39Speaker 3: Everywhere and you're just talking about four more. Games well
- 45:41Speaker 3: it will be six more. Games but so and the last, wallah.
- 45:46Speaker 6: Can we talk about the baseball?
- 45:47Speaker 4: Games if you guys watched, It oh my, goodness it's,
- 45:50Speaker 4: amazing isn't it what they're doing In. MORGANTOWN i mean
- 45:53Speaker 4: that they first of, all they they they made history
- 45:56Speaker 4: by hosting A super regional with you, know having that team.
- 46:01Speaker 6: One who wasn't, anyway thank, YOU i had a.
- 46:05Speaker 4: Moment and then so now they're going To omaha and
- 46:09Speaker 4: it looks like they're going to play The Troy trojans On.
- 46:12Speaker 4: Friday that'll be broadcast ON espn at two O'clock june,
- 46:15Speaker 4: twelve big game on the first time ever they've been
- 46:19Speaker 4: to The College World.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Series and it just shows, you, man anytime any sport
- 46:23Speaker 3: is good at IN. WVU i just love how they
- 46:26Speaker 3: make a big deal out of it and it and
- 46:29Speaker 3: it just becomes they they W morgantown has a way
- 46:32Speaker 3: of amplifying everything the basketball to, football the rifle. Team
- 46:37Speaker 3: so you, know it just shows kind of. Important and
- 46:40Speaker 3: again we had the same issue far as up there
- 46:42Speaker 3: with the baseball with them like trying to uh what
- 46:46Speaker 3: is it uh with the ticket.
- 46:48Speaker 5: Prices oh, yeah the ticket prices.
- 46:51Speaker 4: Real, quick let me tell you what's going on With.
- 46:53Speaker 4: Omaha so uh THE wu ticket. Office, uh they ANNOUNCED
- 46:57Speaker 4: i think it was just today that they can only
- 47:00Speaker 4: fulfilled ticket requests for The Mountaineer Athletic club members that
- 47:05Speaker 4: are at or above fifty thousand dollars annual.
- 47:08Speaker 6: Donation oh my. God if you're not fifty or, above
- 47:11Speaker 6: they advise you to call the nc double or go
- 47:14Speaker 6: to THE ncaa.
- 47:15Speaker 4: Website my, god so right there what it? Is, yeah,
- 47:18Speaker 4: Yeah so, anyway but it's going to be. EXCITING i
- 47:21Speaker 4: think there's some people going To omaha THAT i know
- 47:24Speaker 4: that don't.
- 47:24Speaker 6: Donate we.
- 47:25Speaker 3: Travel that's the thing with W wuwu travels and you
- 47:29Speaker 3: can't and that's you, know and of, course you, know
- 47:31Speaker 3: everybody Knows i'm The marshall. Guy but that's one thing
- 47:34Speaker 3: that you can't take away FROM, wvu and that is
- 47:37Speaker 3: the fan. Base and they're willing to go any and
- 47:41Speaker 3: everywhere to see anything, play anything that anything THAT'S wu
- 47:47Speaker 3: they're willing to travel.
- 47:48Speaker 4: For, yeah it's been really special to see them sing country.
- 47:51Speaker 4: Roads and it was even ON i think THE Nbc
- 47:54Speaker 4: Nightly news or one of the major news. Outlets they
- 47:56Speaker 4: did like a feel good story about the base and
- 47:59Speaker 4: they had the up of all the fans and the
- 48:01Speaker 4: baseball team singing country rights.
- 48:02Speaker 6: Together it was pretty.
- 48:03Speaker 5: COOL i think they'll. WIN i, HOPE i.
- 48:05Speaker 3: Hope so that would be awesome if they did. That
- 48:09Speaker 3: and and no matter who you, are if you live
- 48:11Speaker 3: in the, state you you you almost have to say
- 48:15Speaker 3: you would want them to.
- 48:16Speaker 6: WIN i would, think, yeah.
- 48:18Speaker 3: Just just for the sake of it is W u
- 48:21Speaker 3: and it is. Home it is where we all grew
- 48:23Speaker 3: up and and all that kind of good. Stuff So
- 48:26Speaker 3: i'll say good luck to all the uh all THOSE uh, players, coaches,
- 48:32Speaker 3: managers all of those kind of. Folks and, YEAH i
- 48:37Speaker 3: can't say that you. Can oh my, GOSH i could
- 48:44Speaker 3: not go that. FAR i gave you all, right, ladies
- 48:50Speaker 3: we're gonna get out of here before she talks me
- 48:52Speaker 3: into that we will see you again next. Week you gotta,
- 48:56Speaker 3: work it's mine gott it show, by use my. Time
- 49:01Speaker 3: get In you gotta, work Cry, shine.
- 49:04Speaker 1: Never, mind who talk of dogs? Day, lie don't.
- 49:06Speaker 5: Talk you gotta, Work you gotta, Work you gotta, Work.
- 49:15Speaker 1: You gotta. Work, yeah you gotta. Work, yeah you gotta.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Work i'm going hard Like kobe inside of. Gym i'm
- 49:21Speaker 1: a dim in the. Dirt ain't in gym going for.
- 49:24Speaker 1: GREATNESS i gotta win by in the, means BECAUSE i
- 49:27Speaker 1: don't know When i'll be back. Again going, HARD i
- 49:29Speaker 1: gotta get, it, MAN i can't even. LIE i put
- 49:31Speaker 1: in some much.
- 49:32Speaker 3: Sweat my body ain't.
- 49:33Speaker 1: Running, TRY i said so many teens, NOW i don't
- 49:36Speaker 1: want to try and ize coming needy to.
- 49:37Speaker 3: ME i had to do is.
- 49:39Speaker 1: TRY i had to, work put myself through, it even
- 49:41Speaker 1: THOUGH i knew it. Hurts look at you doing it right,
- 49:44Speaker 1: there dot matter who do it? First never say yourself,
- 49:46Speaker 1: SHORT i know your. WORK i KNEW i wasn't the
- 49:48Speaker 1: one that sends. BIRTH i had to, work Ry, shine
- 49:52Speaker 1: it's mine gotta show everybody use my.
- 49:54Speaker 3: Time get.
- 49:55Speaker 1: In you gotta, work cry, shine never mind who talk
- 49:59Speaker 1: of doves? Day don't. Talk you gotta, Work you gotta,
- 50:04Speaker 1: Work you gotta, Work you gotta. Work, yeah you gotta. Work,
- 50:11Speaker 1: yeah you.
- 50:11Speaker 5: GOTTA i Knew.
- 50:12Speaker 1: I'd be a legend IF i put in the. Time never,
- 50:14Speaker 1: quit never give. Up if you fall. Behind anything you
- 50:18Speaker 1: work for comes to you by. DESIGN i, Said, chris
- 50:20Speaker 1: will never stop you because it's all in your. Mind
- 50:22Speaker 1: if you, fall does, it don't forget back. Up for
- 50:24Speaker 1: your feet anything a be a, win, yup even the
- 50:27Speaker 1: feet that say shit's a bath for.
- 50:29Speaker 3: You wise viveryy.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Sweet couldn't play with big.
- 50:31Speaker 3: KIDS i had to sit in the street and.
- 50:33Speaker 1: Watch from a. Distance but over TIME i.
- 50:35Speaker 3: Grew IF i put in the, work in.
- 50:37Speaker 1: No, Time i'm doing everything THAT i worked and.
- 50:40Speaker 3: Prayed i'm.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Okay if you ask me how DID i do, It
- 50:43Speaker 1: i'm gonna say you gotta work, right, shine just, mine
- 50:46Speaker 1: gotta show everybody it's my.
- 50:48Speaker 3: Side