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Unhinged Client Stories? Therapists Read Reddit Stories · Brilliant Minds?

• Olivia: Brilliant mind Brilliant Mind Andrea: Wish y'all could have heard that. Olivia: Brilliant Minds. Back at it again. that was rough. Okay. Well welcome back to the podcast about two professionals that are off the clock. Thank God. last retire we recorded slash last episode. we did this kinda thing where Andrea looked up some like weird things that therapists have done and like got my reaction. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Olivia: And so I decided to return the favor, except this time it's weird stuff clients have done in session. Andrea: Ooh, I like it. Reverse it. Olivia: Yeah. 'Cause I was thinking about it and I was like, you know, this is actually perfect because I'm sure clients have done a lot of weird things and session that we can't talk about. Andrea: Mm-hmm. yeah. This is great. I'm so excited. Olivia: So, without further ado, I've had a couple good ones and yeah, too good. Andrea: Give give it to me, Reddit. Give it to me. Olivia: Okay. Had someone attempt to join session while actively getting a tattoo. Andrea: Let me re let me okay. Let Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: me make sure I heard that correctly. This Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: is a telehealth session Olivia: Yes. Andrea: and and somebody showed up as they were getting tattooed. Olivia: Yes. Andrea: Honestly, pop off. I'd be like, what are we getting? Show it to me. What shop are you at? Olivia: The first thing out of my mouth would be, Did you forget we had an appointment? Andrea: for sure. I'd be like, I love this for Olivia: You b Andrea: you and Olivia: You seem busy Andrea: That's amazing. Olivia: Yeah. Okay, but like I was I saw that one and I had to laugh because I'm thinking about all of my like all the ADHD like people that we work with. Can't you Andrea: Mm-hmm. Olivia: imagine them totally forgetting that they had an appointment and like being mid tattoo and being like, shit, like I gotta I gotta Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: log in so I, you know, don't get a like no shoffie or something, you know? And just like popping in. Right? Andrea: Yeah, especially especially any of my neurodivergent or my ADHD years that don't have a consistent time, like Olivia: Mm. Andrea: those are the ones that I can see that happening. Like Olivia: Right. Andrea: That is so, so funny. What also popped into my head was I actually saw an article recently about the therapeutic effects of getting a tattoo and how it like actually releases like dopamine in the brain and actually like literally makes you feel good. Olivia: So if you're in therapy and getting a tattoo, that's a double whammy. Andrea: it's like double therapy in an a like it's great. Olivia: Y y yeah, you're feeling so good. Andrea: It'd be like euphoria. Like what's happening? Maybe that's just what we Olivia: Yeah. my gosh. Andrea: need to start doing, is like Olivia: Therapy euphoria. No, w like a mental health clinic and like tattoo parlor, like Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Andrea: I like yeah, but Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think I sa the article I saw it was like on a reel or something, but it was a tattoo artist who became a therapist who was like telling the was like reading the article to on the reel or whatever. I was like, that's a cool job combo. Olivia: Right. Andrea: No Olivia: Right? Yeah. Somebody's comment that was Andrea: I love it. Olivia: like along the same lines was one time my client joined, when they were at the dentist when they like actively had things in their mouth. Andrea: Now that's wild. That is Olivia: It's like as wild as when the dentist is like trying to have a conversation with you and they're like scraping Andrea: Yes. Olivia: plaque out of your mouth and you're like, This is not a time for meaningful connection. Andrea: They're like, What are you doing today? What do you have planned for the week? And you're like, Olivia: Yeah. Anything but being here. Please hurry up so we can like end this. Andrea: Good God. I I have had some wild clients log in at wild times, but those take the cake, like Olivia: I wouldn't even answer a FaceTime if I was at the dentist. Let alone log in to a therapy session. Andrea: No, not no. Like also the thought process of like remembering that while you're laying there in the dentist chair. And then you're like, Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: hold on. I need to pull up my therapy appointment. Like, well, you can't say anything because you got dental tools in your mouth, but like. Olivia: Exactly. That's Andrea: What's happening? Olivia: That's what I'm saying. Like those two things seem so along the same line of like, I'm getting a tattoo, I'm at a dentist appointment, Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: my God, I have therapy, I better join. Andrea: I also wanna know the experience of the tattoo artist or the dentist. Like I wanna know like w what was happening for them in that moment. Olivia: If does it I mean, I I w I would wanna know too, but at the same time I feel like that's probably not the weirdest thing that's happened to either one of those people. Andrea: Yeah, you're probably Olivia: Right? Andrea: right. You're probably right. Olivia: Which is like so e like makes it even funnier that like the dentist or the tattoo artist is like, Just another day and the therapist is like, What is going on? Like, what is happening? Andrea: Gosh, telehealth has opened a portal to so many things for so many people. Olivia: Okay, truly. Okay. This one comes from somebody being in person. Andrea: Okay. Olivia: dear God. Andrea: No. Olivia: A client was finishing their tea at the end of an in-person session and promptly ate the teabag. I was too Andrea: I'm sorry? Olivia: You want me to read it again? Could you imagine? If anyone I knew started to eat a teabag, I would slap it out of their hand. Andrea: Anyone. Anyone. Uh-huh. Correct. I might not even slap it out of their hand. I might just s bitch slap them across the face. Olivia: Ha ha ha. Andrea: What the fuck are you doing? Olivia: And next literally the only other sentence in this. I was too taken aback to ask any questions. Andrea: Okay, so tell me, what would what would you do if s if like what? I I d I can't what? Olivia: I would I would have to make a joke because because there there'd be no way to hide this. Andrea: No Olivia: I th I th I think like the only thing I can think of in this moment is to use humor to diffuse it. I think I would I think I would be like if a if a client literally started eating a D bag in front of I think it'd be like, You hungry? Like, need a snack? Like a what else would you say? Andrea: I don't yeah, like it reminds me of those that show like my strange addiction. Olivia: god, those are so painful. Andrea: Like like is that one of these things? Like, do you do this? Like I might have to actually sit there and be like, okay. I think I think we need a session on this because Olivia: It's like it's like the it's like the most behavioral version of a of of a doorknob moment. A doorknob confession. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: If anyone is like not familiar with the idea like doorknob confession, it's this idea that clients always wait until like the last few minutes to really tell you the something that's going on or like let you in on something or like finally get to it or something they've been avoiding. And they're like the idea is that their hand is on the doorknob and they're about to leave. That's why it's called a doorknob confession. So maybe eating a teabag was a person's doorknob confession. I think what makes it funnier in my mind is that it was in person. Andrea: yeah. That means that that was the therapist's tea bag, most likely. Olivia: In a ther in the therapist's office, right? Andrea: Yeah, yeah. Olivia: What? Andrea: I can't imagine that that tastes Olivia: Hmm. Andrea: good. Like Olivia: Well, clearly did this person why why else did you eat it if it didn't taste good to you? But so bizarre. So bizarre. Andrea: My devil's advoc my devil's advocate brain wants to be like, maybe this person has never had tea before and they thought that that was what you do, but at the same time, like, aren't there typically like staples in those things? Like, Olivia: Hmm. Andrea: what keeps the tea bag together? Olivia: Yeah, it's usually like a staple at the top. Yeah, yeah. Andrea: Yeah. good lord. Now wait a second. Did they eat the whole string? Like I have so many questions. Olivia: Yeah, I I know. I th the the comment does not go into detail, but I'm like, did they rub the bag open and then eat the insides? Which is like somehow more barbaric in a way than just like eating the teabag whole, but then eating the teabag whole as a staple and you're like, wait a second, which one is worse? Andrea: completely, completely. Opening it up and eating the stuff inside also it's more barbaric but also almost makes more sense. But if you they just like Olivia: Yes. Andrea: stuck the whole bag in their mouth. Olivia: E okay I I hate that I'm about to say this. I I hate that I'm about to say this, but I have to say it because we're talking about it. Andrea: Uh-huh. Olivia: Even a scenario where somebody would put a teabag in their mouth and then like suck it Andrea: I have heard that people do this. Olivia: Would be I don't like that. Andrea: I literally I was listening to a podcast where they were reading Reddit stories and it was about like they mentioned that that somebody some people do that. Olivia: Sucked on their T Beck. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: If you need tea that bad, make another cup of tea Andrea: Those teabags usually make two cups. They can. Olivia: It's a lot. Okay, so along the same vein. I love these 'cause they're just so short and then you're just like, what in the hell? I had a client lick my salt lamp. Andrea: No. I don't know what noises just came out of me. Olivia: Good. Andrea: I don't know what's worse. A weird Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: therapist or a weird client because... Olivia: I I think honestly a weird therapist is worse because I held us to a higher expectation. I feel like Andrea: That's fair. Olivia: clients are kinda like, You can get away with a lot. I'll still think you're weird but you can get away with a lot. When therapists are weird, I'm like, What are you doing? Like get your life together Andrea: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's very fair. That's very fair. The impulse to grab my salt candle holder that is right next to me and just Olivia: See, it could be your new strange addiction. Andrea: What? It doesn't even smell like salt. Olivia: Is it even real? Andrea: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause it's like I have to have a napkin on the bottom or else the salt goes all over my thing. But Olivia: Hmm. Well you know, do that if you wanted to. Andrea: Who I mean hopefully that person gets assessed for ADHD. Just saying. Olivia: Throughout the intake session, dispensed liquid soft soap into their mouth intermittently. Andrea: Why are so many people eating shit? Olivia: Because it's funny. If someone was ingesting soap in a session, any session, I don't even know why the person said it was an intake. It doesn't matter. Andrea: No. I mean Olivia: That is a strange addiction. Andrea: d definitely. Was that was that a way of be like not doing the doorknob confession of eating the tea bag or Olivia: I don't know. Immediately I'm like, are there bubbles in your toilet every time you poop? That's immediately where my mind goes 'cause I'm like Andrea: my gosh. Or if you fart, does a bubble blow out? Olivia: I wish. Andrea: my gosh. Okay, my other question though. Where did the soap come from? Why was there just soap? Olivia: See, in this scenario what I'm imagining is this person just yoinked it out of their bag. Andrea: Just they just brought it with them. They're like, I need my fix. Olivia: It's it was their bag soap. Yeah, it was their bag soap. Andrea: I need I need a hit. Hold Olivia: Or maybe it was their car soap. I don't know. Andrea: on. Hold on. I need a hit. Let me oo Sorry, straight to jail. Olivia: Okay, so here's my the only This is gonna make both of us terrible, so let's just do it. The only scenario I can imagine where I'm like, that would make more sense if the person had like really, really extreme OCD Andrea: Yeah. I Olivia: Right? Andrea: yeah. Olivia: And it was like a germ thing? Andrea: Mm-hmm. I could yeah, that tracks. Like a germ what is that the germ O CD, whatever that's called. Yeah. Olivia: Yeah, is it is it the clean O C D or yeah, I forget, but yeah, yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, Andrea: There's a specific name for it, yeah, but Olivia: yeah. Andrea: Yeah, I guess that is true. I have I have heard in like really weird case studies and stuff of people like drinking bleach for O C D and like you know, stuff like that Olivia: Like really intense, yeah. That's the only scenario Andrea: Ugh. Olivia: where I could think that I'd like, Okay, that's not a weird addiction. You know what mean? Andrea: Meh We can still call it a weird addiction. Olivia: Yeah, I mean I guess yeah yeah, I could say it both ways. Okay, Andrea: Yeah, that's o Olivia: It's like the old school like cleaning your mouth out with a bar of soap. Andrea: Yeah. Like I just see it's a cartoon in my head and I like they chug the soap and then they burp and out comes bubbles. Like Olivia: No, why not? I yeah. This one was one Andrea: I'm glad these people are in therapy. Olivia: I probably we'll probably need to go to therapy after eating these. Andrea: Ha ha ha. Olivia: okay, this one is when I worked in community mental health teenagers. Teen my teenager male tried to put our session on Facebook Live. Andrea: Huh? Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: Love this. Olivia: Have you seen those, this is like slightly off topic, but I w I've been thinking about this. It's like kinda related but not related. Have you seen those people that like they're not famous famous, but they're like social media influencers and they'll like post little snippets of them from like while they're s reportedly like in a therapy session? That makes me so curious of like, well you clearly must be getting the therapist like consent, I would hope Andrea: You have I would hope so. Olivia: y would have to. But then I'm thinking like if you're a good therapist, you're not looking up your clients on social media, right? Andrea: Right. Olivia: So how would that therapist know if they're following that boundary, that that client is posting that therapist content? Andrea: That's a really good point. I also just think that that's Olivia: 'Cause they never s Andrea: that's just such a weird choice to make to me. Like yeah, I do, yeah. There's Olivia: Have you seen what I'm do know what I'm talking about though? Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Andrea: there's one creator in particular that's coming to mind for me. Olivia: Yeah, yeah. it it's a very bizarre I mean, it doesn't it never shows the therapist's face whenever I've seen it, and so like Andrea: Mm-hmm. Olivia: it I guess it would like, would you technically need consent if you're only recording their audio? Isn't it you need their consent Andrea: I think it's a Olivia: if they're recording both? Andrea: I think it depends on the state. Olivia: yeah, that's true. 'Cause I know I'm pretty sure that's the Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: case for Washington. You have to have consent for both. But you don't need consent for one. Andrea: Mm-hmm. You too. Yeah, you don't need consent. Or you need consent for both in Washington. In Arizona, you don't need consent. I can record whoever I want. Olivia: Yeah, the whole thing is bizarre. It does this Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: is the part that I was like thinking about that is like not completely related to what we've been talking about, but like feel related is how do you think you become a therapist for celebrities? Andrea: I have actually always wondered this because like and actually I thought about this the other Olivia: Right. Andrea: day when I don't know how I was like in this whole, but there's like a like a Tinder, but specifically for celebrities or people with like specific status, and you have to like be approved by the app to be on the app, like and they go through a whole vetting process and everything. And I'm like, is that The same for therapists. Like, do you do you have to be like do you have to go through some sort of like special process? Do they find you? Do they look for us just like anybody else? Like Olivia: Right. Like I would think that mm at that like tier of I don't know, like status, Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: that you're probably going to get like like a friend referral. You know what mean? Like your Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Olivia: buddy who's also celebrity is like, yeah, I go like see this therapist, you should go see them. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: You know what I mean? Andrea: Yeah, that must be it. It's so that's such an interesting thing to me. Because also the difficulty I would have seeing a celebrity and not telling someone. Like if Brad Pitt was like, hey, I want you to be my therapist, the way that I would struggle so hard to not tell someone. Olivia: I think what would be to me what would be hardest well, one that would be hard, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I think what would be harder is like then trying to like cut off all that you know about that person and Andrea: Yes, yes. Olivia: then all and then also like kind of reserving yourself to not like engage in any of that content that that person produces. Andrea: Yeah, that would be so like a lot, especially somebody with such status like that, where it's like, Olivia: Ray. Andrea: Well, I've seen all your movies, like you've been on these reality shows, maybe, or like like how how do you I mean, I guess like we practice being non-biased, and maybe that's the same type of feeling that a small town therapist would have, like the same a similar experience. Olivia: Maybe, yeah. Andrea: But also, like, whoa, that would be so hard. Olivia: Right. Yeah, I I just Andrea: Especially like a celebrity that maybe plays a villain. that'd be so weird. Olivia: I think it would just be like so weird in general to have to like I I don't know, like ignore anything you heard about that person or like not engage yeah, like yeah, that'd be so weird. Andrea: Right. Right. Olivia: Anyways, just like a random thought I had of like man, h how do you become a therapist for celebrities? Like you can't necessarily Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: like market for that. Right? Andrea: No, I n I have heard a therapist like marketing to what's the word that I'm looking for? Like influential or like high s high society, where it's like I market towards like rich people, but that that's like boiling it down a lot, but it's like marketing towards the people that are in super corporate. high jobs, like Olivia: Mm. Andrea: billionaire type stuff. And I'm like, that's an interesting niche. But I feel like if you're gonna do that, you have to have some connection with that niche. I don't know. It's trippy to think about though. Olivia: Yeah. It makes me wonder, like 'cause I know there have been different celebrities that have come out and like talked about being in therapy. Andrea: Mm-hmm. Olivia: it just kinda makes me curious, like I wonder how many celebrities actually are in therapy because of maybe like some of the weird confidentiality, like privacy issues that come up. I don't know. Yeah. Interesting. Anyways, okay. Total total tangent. Okay. Next one. Andrea: That's what we're all about, yo. Olivia: Seriously. someone I saw made me a PowerPoint on their trauma history. Andrea: I am a hundred percent for this all the time. Olivia: Right. Yes. Right? Y Yeah. Andrea: 100%. If you Olivia: Yep. Andrea: also the way that that is therapeutic for some people to just make the PowerPoint, fuck yeah. I love this. Make me a PowerPoint about your trauma. Show me a PowerPoint about your whole family tree. Give me a PowerPoint of your friends. Like I want it. Give it to me. 100% here for it. Olivia: I especially too because I'm sure you've seen the trend of like PowerPoint parties where every friend like Andrea: Love. Olivia: develops a PowerPoint presentation about like the next group vacation or like a random conspiracy theory they believe in or whatever. And I Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. Olivia: honestly love them because like you didn't point th this aspect out. I think it's hilarious because to me it's basically like reclaiming PowerPoints so they're fun, reclaiming them from school days and like group projects. And like making a PowerPoint fun for the first time in your life or silly or goofy or whatever. Andrea: Yeah. yeah. Olivia: Cause if I'm making a PowerPoint about my trauma history, you better believe there are gonna be a lot of memes in there. Andrea: yeah. yeah. There's gonna be so many memes. I'm gonna make animations with all of it. Olivia: Whoa. Andrea: it's gonna be so cute. also I added PowerPoint party to our friendship bucket list. Olivia: Well, it did just make me think like y we we should do a like we should do we should try to do like some version of that for the podcast Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: where like both of us like do a PowerPoint presentation for the other person. I don't know what Andrea: that would be so fun. Olivia: on. I don't really think we want to do our trauma history. But I'm sure we could find another topic. Andrea: Could be funny. Olivia: goodness. Andrea: I I I do I do actually really love that. Like I have that has come up in my on my caseload and I'm like, yep, let's do it. Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: I mean I haven't done a PowerPoint, but I have written down like an extensive like health history for a doctor. And just came on, came in with like a notepad. It was just like year, year, Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: year, year, year. And she was like, you are well prepared. And I was like, Well, yeah. She's like, Well, I did read all of your records that you transferred over. And I was like, You did? Andrea: Ha ha ha Olivia: She's like, Yeah and I was like, no doctor Andrea: That's amazing. Olivia: ever does that. She's like, Yeah, so I don't like I can scan this Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: in if you want, but like I think I can already have that and I was like Andrea: Game changer. Olivia: Yeah, I'll yeah, I know, I was like that was amazing. But yeah, I it like basically Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: a PowerPoint but on a notepad. Andrea: I have a Google Drive that's like that. Olivia: I I also have a Google Doc, yeah. 'Cause then I like, I don't wanna keep this paper but it's probably still useful 'cause I can never remember dates of anything, so I should probably Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: put this in a Google Doc. Andrea: I have I have my Google Drive with all of that with like all my imaging and all my blood results. Cause fun fact, you guys, Olivia: How you Andrea: if you don't give your doctor your records, you don't actually have a continuous record that follows you. You have to make it follow you. Olivia: Yeah. It's like you privatized your own health record. Andrea: Exactly. I have. Olivia: I love that. That's so funny. Alright. Andrea: Ha ha. Olivia: this comment is my client brought their mail into my office for session and just began opening it. Andrea: Okay. Yeah. Like, if that was an executive function and goal, yeah. But just out of the blue? Olivia: Yeah, like the way that it's delivered, I don't know if it's because that's the way I said it, but the way the co like the comment reads makes me feel like they just had their mail and they're like, I'm just gonna go through Andrea: Yes. Olivia: it. Andrea: Yeah, that's totally what it reads. Yeah. Olivia: Not like I'm nervous to go through it, I need someone to help me go through it. Nothing like that. Just like I need to go through it. Now's the time. Like, strike while the iron's hot. It's like what? Andrea: My brain is also like, what era are we in? Because most of the mail I get these days is just ads for credit cards and HelloFresh trying to get me to come back to them. sponsor us, please. and how how many days worth of mail is it? Because if it's just one day, but Olivia: See my mail's more exciting because I get all the stuff for the business. Andrea: This is true. Olivia: But other than that, it is boring. I will Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: say, okay, another really weird rabbit rail. I Are you okay if I just completely derail, as usual? Okay. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: I have gotten like at least three pieces of mail. The address is correct. The name is a absolutely like wild name I've never heard of in my life. And it's like from a local medical clinic, like a local medical office. And it's sending mail to this person at my address. And that the name of that person is never lived at my address. Andrea: Weird. Olivia: And I don't know what to do. It feels like it's like a HIPAA thing, right? That I should like call the clinic and be like, yo, you're sending mail to this person and like It ain't right but Andrea: You can take it back to the post office. That's what I do here. Olivia: But the address is correct. Andrea: Wait, the address is Yeah, but if it's Olivia: They delivered it Yeah. Andrea: not yours, you can return it to the post office and be like, return this to sender and they'll return it. Or you can just like write that on the letter and send it back in the mailbox. Olivia: Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. I should probably do that. But yeah, it's been the weirdest thing I like all of a sudden it started getting mail for some random Andrea: Yeah. For Olivia: person. Andrea: for you yeah, for you and you like your living situation, that's weird. For like us, like we're renting, that makes like that happens all the time. But like But you've been in your house for like Yeah. Olivia: Well yeah, yeah. l lived here for like nine years. Andrea: What? Olivia: Yeah. Yeah, and it just started happening this year. It's it's like the person Andrea: That's so weird. Olivia: must have put in their address wrong. Andrea: Had to have. Had to have. Yeah. Weird. Olivia: Right. Right, yeah. Okay. Okay, this comment, no context. Gonna throw it out. Client threw a pregnancy Andrea: Okay, let me put my drink down. Olivia: test in my trash. Andrea: Get it, Queen? I don't know what Olivia: Like we're getting back to the soap. Like, why did you have it in your like your bag, your purse? Is it used? I'm assuming it's used. Why were you carrying around a used test? Andrea: So many, so many questions. Or like, did you take the test? Olivia: Right? Also it feels like a power play. You know what I'm saying? Andrea: Wait, what Olivia: Like it in a like I'm gonna drop a pregnancy test into your trash and I'm gonna see if you notice that it's positive and like if you're gonna ask me you know what I mean? Like it feels like a weird like mind game. Andrea: Did it say if it was positive? Olivia: No. Andrea: it just said that's so fucking weird. Like, there's also so Olivia: Just a pregnancy Yeah. Andrea: there's so much context in this that my brain needs because like Olivia: I hope. Andrea: Is this a perinatal clinic? Is this, you know, it are are is this Olivia: Yeah, great. Andrea: a person who's trying to get pregnant? Is this a person who is a hoe? Is this a pr like it what's happening? What's happening? Olivia: Right, but I Andrea: Is it a man? Is it a woman? Is it a non binary person? What's happening? Olivia: Well okay, but let's roll it back Andrea: Ha ha. Olivia: up like play out a very different scenario. Andrea: Okay. Olivia: Where would you take a pregnancy test? Andrea: At home? Olivia: Thank you. Where would you dispose said pregnancy test? Andrea: At home. So my brain when you first read this went to June now. Have you seen that movie? Olivia: Yeah yeah yeah. Long time ago, but yeah. So like like at a g at a gas station. Yeah, yeah, Andrea: Right. They take pregnancy tests in the gas station. Olivia: yeah. Okay, but like fair. Like you you're panicked, you go get a pregnancy test, you need to know right away, right? Like you're a gas station, you're at a restaurant, you're at department store, Andrea: Yeah. A therapy, apparently. Olivia: grocery store, doesn't matter. No no no no no no no no no no. This is like you need to know now, right? Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: So you're get you're buying it and you're taking it and you're disposing it in the bathroom. Andrea: So this person Olivia: What is this therapy office in a bathroom? So that's what I'm saying, like emergency situation, take the test, dispose it, or you're at home. Those are the two Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: normal experiences and places where people are taking Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: pregnancy tests. Andrea: Cause clearly this is this wouldn't be weird if the clinic carried pregnancy like if the office carried pregnancy tests in the office. Which like To be honest, I could see happening where it's yeah, Olivia: Really? I got. Andrea: yeah, I I just like like a maybe a community mental health center with like all the resources and stuff for free that you could like have, you know? But like but also the chances of that are like me, really tiny. And to wouldn't you just dip dispose of it in the bathroom? Right? Like you keep saying, like what Olivia: Did you like open up your bag to like get your keys and you're like, this is in here, better throw it out. Andrea: Ew. Olivia: Yeah, 'cause the comment also doesn't say if it was used or not used. We're just assuming it was used. Andrea: The fact that it doesn't give any other context really stresses me out. Where I'm just like, I need to know. Olivia: I know. Because our brains are like trying to fill in every single possible scenario in which it can make sense. It doesn't make sense. Because who has an unused pregnancy test that you're just throwing away? And why would you think to throw it away Andrea: Correct. Olivia: at your therapist's office? Again, to me, it feels like a really weird power play. Andrea: Like Olivia: Doesn't it? Like how does it not? Andrea: Also, why would you not give any more context around that? I need to know if it's positive. That gives us a lot more information. Olivia: But okay, I'm saying like if you were in person and you had a client and they dropped a pregnancy test in the trash and then they left Andrea: In my trash. Olivia: in your trash, what would you do? Andrea: Vomit. Olivia: In the same trash? Andrea: Also, like every in-person therapist office I've ever been to, trash cans are always like the open ones, like the bins that are just wide open, and you can see how many coffees the therapist has had. But like ew. Olivia: Again, mind game. Like how Andrea: That is so wild. Olivia: how could you not look at it? Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: Even if you were trying not to look at it. Andrea: Yeah. So many questions. What are you trying to tell Olivia: Right. Andrea: your therapist in that moment? Olivia: Or e even if you saw it in your bag like, I forgot that was there, I should throw it away. Why did it have to be right now? Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. Again. So glad these people are in therapy. Olivia: couldn't be me, girl. Couldn't be me. Andrea: couldn't even I couldn't even imagine being in a telehealth session and somebody like holding up a pregnancy test to the camera when I log in. I'd be like, ooh, yikes, what? Peace stick in my Olivia: Have you Andrea: face. Thanks. Olivia: Yeah, even though it's over telehealth it'd be like it would be like a visual assault. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Andrea: Du Yeah Yeah. Olivia: I mean I've only had one scenario where a client has told me that they're pregnant. Have you had any clients Uber? No. Andrea: No. No. Olivia: I wonder how clients tell therapists. I don't know, like I've just like an interesting thing, like I know Anticlimactic. Andrea: I mean Olivia: Hold up a used bee stick, who knows? Andrea: Just like how they tell people that like a pet has died or something I that's I don't know. I'm so curious. It'll happen eventually. Olivia: Don't know either. Usually when like yeah, like has to. I mean, usually when something like really like dire happens to a client, usually like they email me to let me know before session. Andrea: Mm, mine don't. Olivia: So like I get into session and I usually already kinda know. Well, I would say like 60 to 70% of the time, I think. I I usually like already know. But anyways. Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Olivia: Okay. This one is about a gift. Occasionally I've had clients bring me cookies they made or something else, but once a client I was working with brought me a marinated chicken breast and I thought that was so funny. Andrea: Just a chicken rest. Olivia: No no no. A marinated chicken Andrea: Ha. Olivia: bread. Andrea: So does that mean it wasn't cooked? Olivia: Yeah. Ha Andrea: Holy Salmanila? What? Olivia: Here's your dinner tonight. Here's the spirit. Andrea: Here, I thought you would like the marinade I made. What What is your intention, sir? Are you t what? Yeah. Olivia: Ha Andrea: Again, Olivia: ha Andrea: revisiting tamales, bring me the tamales. A marinated raw chicken breast. Olivia: Honestly Andrea: Wow. Wow. Olivia: Okay Hear me out Hear me out I don't like cooking, right? Cooking is not my favorite thing. Okay no no no Hear me out Don't roast me, okay. I don't really like cooking and when I go to cook I want it to be as fast as possible. So marinating chicken, I'm never doing because that means I have to think like way ahead of when I'd wanna cook the chicken to marinate the chicken. So to me, I don't think that's the worst gift. Andrea: Again, context. I need so much context. Did they just whip this out of their backpack? Did they have it in their Olivia: I hope so. Andrea: in their pocket? Was it in a cooler? Like, questions. I have so many questions. Skip it. Literally raw dog in life there. Oof. Olivia: this is along the same lines. This is so funny. my gosh. Okay, now there's two ones that I see that are like related to ones we were talking about. One, one time Andrea: Mm-hmm. Olivia: I had a client reach into her backpack, pull out some pork, and a family-sized bottle of sweet baby Ray's barbecue sauce. Andrea: Yes, Queen! get it. Eat that protein. Olivia: Another one. Telehealth. I had a client take a pregnancy test in session. She thought it was positive but she planned to do another one the next morning. Andrea: The Hold on. they took a pregnancy test. Okay. I just ADHD'd that and I was like, nobody's peeing in my office. Olivia: Telehealth. Tell up. Andrea: Yeah. Honestly, I'd be okay with that. If somebody was like, I needed to wait and talk to you about this, should I do it? I'm panicked and I'd be like, Do you have a pregnancy test? And they like, Yeah, then I'd be like, Go take it. Like But in my own Olivia: Yeah, I Andrea: in person in my office, what the fuck? Olivia: No. No. The f the first word on that post was telehealth, so we're good. Andrea: Ha ha ha. Olivia: my goodness. Andrea: Thank you for the clarification. That was more information. Olivia: Yes. Andrea: I appr appreciate it. Olivia: okay, this'll this will be the last one. When I worked in community mental health and did home visits, s when I arrived, someone told me they had been cooking before I got there, and when we went into the kitchen it was a pan full of crack rocks. She had been cooking crack. Ha ha ha. Andrea: scene. Wow. I did home visits back in the day. We've talked about this. You've done home visits. Olivia: Yeah, I've I've done home visits. I you s you I have yes, you see some things. Y literally. Lit lit literally literally and figuratively. Andrea: I've seen we've seen some shit. Literally and figuratively. Literally, literally. When we say literally, we are not joking. Olivia: I've I've also like stepped in it and didn't realize I stepped in it. Andrea: Yeah. Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: I feel like this is very common home visit experience. Olivia: Yeah. Yeah. Andrea: not not just animal. Olivia: Did you did you have Vicks in your car like I did after that one home visit, so I could put it up my nose? Andrea: I just had gum. I like just had like really strong spearmint gum. Yeah. Always. Or candy to like Yeah. Olivia: Yeah, I had bags. I just Andrea: But straight up just not giving a shit and being like, Here's my crack kitchen. Olivia: it's fresh. Andrea: Hot off the press, do you want some? Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: Wow. The the balls on this person like Olivia: mean they're probably high as a kite. Yeah. I mean Andrea: They're probably high. Wow. Olivia: right? Andrea: Yeah. Sometimes, I will be honest, again, seen some shit, experienced some shit, been doing this a long time. But sometimes I hear stories like this and I'm like, damn, why is my career not that exciting? Olivia: Okay, if I was at therapist it is. If Andrea: But it is Olivia: I was at therapist on that home visit, my first thought is, dear god, I hope the police officers don't show up and that I have my badge on. Andrea: Yeah. yeah, for sh yeah, that would have been my first thought. For sure. Olivia: I mean like man, if somebody comes in here, we all going down. Like this is not okay. Like Andrea: yeah. Yeah. Olivia: Yeah. Andrea: Yeah. I'd have I'd probably spiral a little bit. I'd like I I know I would like keep it together in the moment, but I'd go to my car and be like spiraling. I'd be like, what the fuck? Olivia: yeah. Yeah. Andrea: Oof. What what a wild ride. Olivia: Yeah, so if you all thought therapists were weird, clients also really Andrea: Get your shit together. Olivia: weird. Andrea: Yeah. Wow. I love that. Olivia: I think I I really I I think I'm gonna be thinking about the client dropping a pregnancy test in the trash for a long time. I I really that's gonna stick in my brain. Andrea: Mm-hmm. You know what's still stuck in my brain is the tea bag. Olivia: It was a good opener. Yeah. There was no lead Andrea: Yeah, that one. Olivia: up at all. No warm up, just straight straight teabag. Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. The teabags and the lattes from last week, those are stuck. Olivia: That's fair. That's very fair. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, if you all happen to have any funny weird client stories, weird clients, weird therapist stories, please tell us. Andrea: Or even or even if you as a client did something weird, tell us. I wanna know. Olivia: Yeah. obviously we are morbidly curious and if Andrea: Ha ha. Olivia: you're gonna leave a comment you better leave all the context because clearly we also need to know that too. Andrea: I need all the deets. I need everything. Full case conceptualization, please. Olivia: Yes. I need I need a family history. I need a PowerPoint of your trauma history. I need a Andrea: Yep. Yep. my gosh. Those were so good. Olivia: Yeah, those are good. Those are good. I I your reactions are priceless. thank Thanks everyone for listening in and following along our Wild antics as usual. Like, comment, subscribe, all those good things, and we'll catch you in the next episode. 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