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Car star Lords. Of course, I'm Jamaican a lot of mercy.
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I'm not just making y'all at all. Like, don't get it twisted.
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arrest me. But you know that's a whole other story. Most of the
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Avengers because they're cops, you know what I mean? Um, yes,
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but I mean, are you doing Jase? I think so with my rant
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about police, you know as well? All right? Right at the top
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of the hour of views from the six one six, Yes, we are
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back. We are back to discuss everything secret invasion. This week we are
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talking episode two titled Promises. Before we get to the details there, I
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be listening right now on your favorite podcast platform. And as mentioned right,
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I hope. So we saw episode two. Um last week I mentioned Ben,
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I mean, how we got the episodes early kind of compure for me.
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I could do this at Fox there and stuff. Yes, the man
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does not stay on the topic at all. I'm trying to I'm trying to
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d trying to get it going. Yes, but I mean you last week
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you actually got to see both episodes. So I had to catch up since
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I was on another I was on Earth forty two. But now I'm back
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and I caught up, and uh, I saw I saw episode one obviously,
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but I also saw episode two. And just to kind of back you
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up on some of the things you said last week when you were talking about
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episode one violence, it's all the violence, always all the time when it
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comes to this show. It does have a it is a little bit different
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from Falcon and Winter Soldier, Like it's in that vein of realism in terms
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of like this is not like a fantastical type of show, Like it's not
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a low key it's not a Wanda vision, and it's more on the lane
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of a of a falcon on the shoulder. But it's a little bit different
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too. Honest, it was giving me Pope fiction tease, just and only
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because of the certain scenes with Nick Fury. Because Samuel Jackson I feel like
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sometimes nowadays, like he's playing himself, just in slightly different slighting, different
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outfits, slightly different like hair styles, but he's kind of still playing himself.
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Um, kind of like how the Rock does and like everything he does.
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Right, it's just like I'm still you, but just a little bit,
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just a smidge different, but you still love him for it. Right,
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So I will say the first episode I was a bit slow for me.
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I was, I was. It wasn't boring, but it was a
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little bit slow for me, And then this episode picked up the pace.
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Episode two picked up the pace a bit more for me. How do you
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feel about Maria Hill? I didn't care. Wow, I'm not gonna hold
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you like like I like Maria as a person, do I am? I
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invested in her as a character? Not? No, not really? Yeah?
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I agree right there, Actually one thousand percent. I think the actress
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I can't remember her name, but she's phenomenal. She's hilarious. She was
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the one thing I never watched it, but I know on How I Met
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your Mother she's phenomenal. And um, yeah, they gave her nothing.
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And also it was pretty unceremonious how she went out, My guy, like
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that was pro blood too. It was pretty and that's probably also what it
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should be. Besides how I just I guess you could call it a bias
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with my general bias of like neutrality when it came to her. The way
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she went out was also very like, uh, another spot is dead,
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goodbye, like all like it wasn't she died in the line of duty.
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Okay, you died when you're supposed to die. Like how the fuck else?
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Like if a fucking portal came out of nowhere and you know, Thanose's
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hand came through it and crushed her to death, and maybe I might feel
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it way right, but that didn't happen. It was just you got popped,
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all right. Also got to say it was kind of like, damn,
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Nick Fury really is slipping because they had no code word or nothing nothing
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for that. Now, I will say the most important part of her being
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popped was the fact that we all know that Maria is Nick Fury's road dull.
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Yeah, like that's his ace, that all that stuff. So for
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that to go her to go, I like that that hurt him, and
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you felt that hurt from him. Do you feel like that's a case of
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fridging where her death is used to motivate the male character. And you did
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say this last week. Now that I've seen the episode, I'm not I
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don't really say that, not a ndred percent, because he was already motivated.
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He's already motivated, and and yes, and guys were just kind of
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really quickly recapping episode one in. And it's also too because and he also
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kind of shrugs off, Yeah, shrugs off her mom, like whatever.
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He it's a little bit, it's a smidgen of fridging, But more so
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it was just more confirmation of the road, the path that he was already
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walking down out he had said multiple times even before her that a Yo,
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I'm coming back from my Space station because this is my war. And also
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its confirmation that they had nothing to do from Mauria Hill and had nothing to
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do except for show her. They clearly had nothing to do with Ross.
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But also that was a scrolls or didn't matter. But I wish they'd done
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him in oh the real Ross. Yeah, definitely five so many near deaths.
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I mean, he made him he got shot once and this should have
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been the end. Well it wasn't him, so not not you know,
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like Maria Hill should have gotten you know, her near death and state at
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least she didn't, you know, Right, Well that's how I felt that,
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I mean to answer your question. And then leading into episode two,
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this whole episode again that one of the major themes Fury is washed, Fury
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is oh, Fury is off his game, like they keep pushing it.
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I'm like, bro, I hope this is not the narrative the entire four
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more episodes to go, Like I get it, man's this old man river.
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Can we do something else and move on? Like I feel like,
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of course they're trying to do the Hero's journey with him again, right,
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we see in this episode, like you know, he's kind of just failing
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at life or feeling at life as a leg Fury. And then towards the
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kind of middle end, he gets fired. Right how to get fired from
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a clandestine group, I don't know, but he got fired. So I
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say Heroes journey because like he kind of loses himself here already he's kind of
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seems as happening that he's losing himself and he has to build back up to
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some new version, some new version of the hero, some new purpose,
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And I feel like that's that's to me, it's kind of predictable that that's
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where this is going. And also you kind of also see just you see
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a little bit of history about how Gravit came to be, his whole villain
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origin story, and can you really call him a villain? You know,
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not necessarily because he kind of has a kind of fucking graphic a little bit.
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I don't fuck a graphic at all. Still like his plane, I
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don't fun with him a little bit, and not about his Let me be
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clear, I'm not talking about how he planned shit like you better, you
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gotta you gotta know. Not that part. My part is that dog,
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you got at most a million scrolls down with you, right at most,
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you really don't. There's a million on Earth he has, he has one
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hundred k at most. Okay, so let's say you got him all down.
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There are billions of people on this planet and you planning to kill them
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all so you can take over the planet. This is it was easy,
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it'd be easy. But if I was a scroll would be easy. No
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point, What are you gonna do with the rest of the planet, like
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you just try to murder everyone in the well. My understanding is they're gonna
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fucking end up. They're trying to start a cold war or until hot war.
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They're gonna end up nuking the planet. And because that scrolls are immune
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to nuclear activity or whatever, they're gonna be good. Like it's kind of
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easy. He's halfway fucking there. But I are you gonna run? Like
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who's gonna run this whole planet with just a million people on it? Like
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this nigga he's scrawled, he scrolled supreme? Why and not just get along
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with people? It's pointless, like you can eat it. I don't want
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he's I don't want these niggas. What what did the doctor say in that
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Spider Man strip? I don't want to cure cancer. I want niggas to
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be dinosaurs. That's how this nigga graphic is thinking. And just just from
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I when I say I funk with graphic. I just like his determination.
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I think that's a good word. I like his determination. I like that
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he no matter what, he's kind of not wavering and he don't and he's
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actually following through what he says. One thing I don't like and again.
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Yes, if I was a human, he would be against me. Okay,
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whatever, But I respect the niggas. I respect what he's trying to
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do. He's like, look, I'm trying to find a home for my
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people. I don't fuck with humans. Here's my here's my plan. I'm
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carrying through with my plan. I'm gonna make it happen for us. Is
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it is it the right way? No? Is it? Is it kind
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of like you said, are you finding holes in the plan? Absolutely,
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there weren't holes. It wouldn't be a plot. But here we are.
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But it's like, at least usually you know, it's like like we talked
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about the flash Masters. You know, you can be all down with them
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until they start blowing up hospitals to make you. This guy, Yeah,
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this guy starts off like, nah, that ain't homework, you know what
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I mean. That's why I'm saying, like I can't get down with him,
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because it's just like you're playing is foolish from the jump. It's just
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so you don't like it as so you don't like his party planning skills,
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so you don't want to be down with him. Nope, not at all.
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I cannot You don't think he's a good We're all gonna be there,
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graphic. Oh nobody, now I'm good, bro, nobody Like you don't
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think he's a good Like these people, it's ninety five they've been on the
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planet, like the majority of them, like forty plush years, right,
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thirty years they said, thirty plush years, thirty bush years. Yeah,
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d like you know hip hop and shit. Niggas like this shit, you
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know what I mean? Like niggas just all this shit. Nigga like humans
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dropped some dope shit like hip hop. I don't want to kill the humans.
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Yeah, like come on, fam, I mean he's not thinking about
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that. He wants to what does he don't care about that? He wants
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scroll on say I know, okay, he wants to scroll fruits, scroll
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juice that sho understand, we want to scroll sports like we sports. He
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wants that ship and only that shit. He's hit the I don't know,
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you know what I mean, why couldn't they got They got the physical str
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there, but it takes more than that. Baby, as we all know,
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you well. I also, as we also learned in this episode,
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the scrolls up to something. They up to something, and they are as
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ben I mean said before they robbing brains. But more than that, they're
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they're they're harvesting some stuff, right, Like, yeah, we see that
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they're actually harvesting DNA. And I actually pause the frame on one scene to
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see who's DNA it was harvesting or had already harvest. They've harvest the DNA
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of such notables such as grout from the planet b or at Planet X,
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frost beast from the planet Yodenheim, call of City in one of Dannos's niggas
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uh, and some other folks. Um, where's cold sitting from us as
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unknown origin? Okay, But the point is like they and then you know
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their doctors are saying, you know, they they've been Besides Robin, the
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last person is the what are you talk the extremists from irons give you the
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flame power? Yeah. So so I'm saying all this because, like I
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said, besides Robin brains, they're also robbing DNA. They are, and
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they're putting in there's some system going on, and they are going there battling
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towards something called the harvest, and I just imagine that's when they activate all
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of these doubles of all of this DNA that has been stolen. Um,
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come on, man, you got I mean it's probably more than that.
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But yeah, I mean this is a well trod as they say, comic
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book trope with the Strolls, and that is the Supersprawl and the Supersprawl and
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the comic books. The original Superstrolers are dude name kill Rick. I want
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to say you pronounced his name. He's a really great character, like such
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a I mean really like some of his stories are really some of the best,
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like heartbreaking stories, you know, the superstrow really goes through it.
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But yeah, he has the powers of the Fantastic Four. So as you
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see right here, they're getting because we don't have the Fantastic Forna and see
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you, we're getting it. And you've even seen this in the trailer if
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you want, if you're a person who watch trailers, you see Gravic at
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one point extend his arm and groups type arm comes out of it. So
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through these four combinations we're getting almost the Fantastic Four. Because you have the
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Extremists for the fire, you have Cold City, and for the strength and
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toughness like the thing, you have group for the stretch like mister fantastic,
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and then they, I guess, would give you like ice shields, like
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akin to a force field. So combining all these different aspects to create super
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scrolls or superscrowl. Yeah remember that. Yeah, you know, I don't
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think gravit's the type of share power. Let's just say, well, no
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one's sharing shit. They just took what they want and they're building the machine.
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You said, grab extreme me, I'm thinking of tails. Yeah no,
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no, Taylor's time getting none of this. Yeah. Yeah, um,
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so like that's kind of that. That's generally what's going on in this
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episode. I mean, you see all this stuff happening in terms of Nick
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Fury allegedly being completely washed, even though he has sotule glimpses of the old
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Fury in there, him losing whatever power he has, and and then of
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course what the Scrolls have been up to, just in terms of how deeply
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they've been integrated into society, have taken over. They are the heads of
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state, they are the head of the commander of NATO, they are the
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prime minister of Russia or whatever country they are. They President of United States
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and other people that don't whomever, and prime ministers. It was like FX
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and News or something that was supposed to be Fox News. I love how
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he said my scat like not my scat he said to Moscow attack attack.
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Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh. And this what I've I forgot my train
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of thought there. But what I did do, Ben, I did look
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back into your notes for this episode, uh, and just kind of just
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compare and contrast what I had seen today. And um, I mean some
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of these questions I just answered already. But he said, when you said,
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you said it several times. Even in the last episode the scrolls went
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white. Let's go back to that, because at the very beginning of this
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episode, we see a flashback of young Nick Fury, younger Nick Fury when
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he's basically recruiting the scroll saying, Hey, yo, I know y'all been
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through it. I'm gonna find y'all new home. I promise you that.
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But I need you. I need you to help me, help you,
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and he says will you, But essentially he says, in order to do
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this, you have to, you know, pretend to be humans. Will
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you do this for me? And then one by one, the scrolls start
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terraforming themselves and they turn into humans. Now you had a comment about that
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Scrolls went White. Yes, I did, because there's a lot in this
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episode that to me, I wanted to ask you about now that you've seen
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it, because it one it was a bit interesting, and two it was
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a bit heavy handed, and like you know, it starts from the very
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beginning of this episode, like you said, with that scene, but there's
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also the scene on the train when Talos convinces the people that there's no way
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to be a black man going from Mostow to Warsaw because you know, you'd
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rather see it alien on this train than that. So there's a lot of
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it throughout it. You know, there's the help of brother out scene,
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right, we gotta talk about that fury. But yeah, with the sprawls
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growing white, to me was the first time when I was like, wow,
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that's way. I mean, it's hilarious. But Nick gives them this
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offer and behind him, Taylor said, Nick are standing there and behind them
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is a painting on the wall of two looks like indigenous brownish people, definitely
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very brown brown or black people. And it looks like a classic you know
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painting. Like I said before, it's like the type of stuff you'll see
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in Jamaica, type of stuff you'll see in Dominican or Republic, in Ethiopia.
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Wherever you go to this brown or black people, you'll see these type
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of paints pretty much. And so that was instrutent, and he gives them
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this offer, and all the sprawls in that scene immediately turned into white people.
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The one the few that step up turn into white people like Gravic of
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course have adopted you know, black people, but switches between whatever when need
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be. You know, there's other people in this episode, like Fury's wife
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who has adopted to the person of a black woman. Correct, correct,
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But in that scene, everyone turned white. And I think that was very
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intentional with the black people in the painting behind them, because it's like these
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scrowls know what's up. It's easier to move in this world as a white
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person in most places than it is a person of color. And I think
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you're right, man, that there's some of this is heavy handed commentary just
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about race relations and all other stuff, like none of that shit matters to
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Scrolls, right, they're green. They are a species that can do shit
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that humans cannot do, and the stand shit that humans cannot withstand. So
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the yeah, they're in factions now, But when they were where they were,
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when they first got here, they were fucking refugees. They didn't care
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about none of that shit, right, Yes, of racism and all that
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stuff was not the main thing is how do we blend in and do what
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we need to do in order to get where we need to be. And
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to your point, like, it's kind of smart, and I also think
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there's some explanation for that. When you look at someone like tails Tailor's adopted
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the image of a white man. So I would imagine those people who are
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there. I mean, Taylors is the one who called a million fucking scrolls
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to Earth, So I would think at least some of them would be like,
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well, if Tailor's adopted the image of a white person, I probably
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should too. Oh they had to watch Taylor's they had on Earth for five
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minutes and figure that's sure. But my point is all right. My point
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is when you see the images of people you respect or follow, you are
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more prone to just pattern matching. And I can see that also being a
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factor of white people decided, as you say, the scrolls turned white,
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Yes, of course, Ben, they just came down saw the race relations
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said oh, y'all fucked up in the head and let me just adopted.
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Fine, but that also doesn't explain that some of them also became black or
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adopted the image being black too. Hey, we all know what that is.
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You know, black, I guess you know what I mean. That's
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all you know, easily explainable fan. You know, like I said before,
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hip hop beyond right sort just be personal purpoces and the things they see.
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Yes, yes, yes, I also think similar to the whole Taylores
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thing, there are people who looked at Nick Fury like you see Nick Fury,
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even even now as a washed guy, he still has that standing of
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being revealed, yeah, of being respected, and even twenty years ago,
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thirty years ago when he first was recruiting them. So I can also see
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people saying, you know what, I want to respect the honor be like
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Nick Fury, I'm a term black that's probably black, right, And listen,
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I still I don't know. I mean, no likes me, the
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dude who claims every charismatic villain ever I just do charismatic. No. I
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think he's super I mean, come on, this is great. He's very
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super charismatic, you know, Like I know, you you you uh confused
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him reggae see ye not the same guy, No, not at all.
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But you know they need to do a movie together. And I think they're
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both charismatic actors, and I think this dude's extremely charismatic as graphic. But
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I just think they've given him a really stupid plan. And it's like it's
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just you know, your plan would go like I mean, it's Flagsmaster's level
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stupid. Yeah, because it's like you don't need to do that. You've
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already won the avasion, you've won, you've technically won the war. Now
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you're just doing to start something that you can't finish. But more than that,
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Ben, I mean, he's much like that white woman who that white
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woman who's like the fucking terminator. He's an absolutionist, yeah, And I
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think that's the point, Like he's an absolute like it's not it's not enough
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that we've already won. I want to completely annihilate my ops, all of
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them. I want no choice or chance. Ain't right, He's like,
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nah, I ain't looking y'all niggas up. And that's why I say,
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and that's whe but but I also respect that because that's tends to what happens,
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right, The villains always either want to give the long fucking speech and
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you give the opportunity, or you get what happens when you give niggas an
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inch, they take a mile, right, and it's just like, oh,
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well, I'm gonna give you y'all. Let you what happens now,
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obviously, naturally what would happen, Like the humans is gonna try to uprise.
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They say, you ain't gonna you ain't gonna hold me down on my
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planet. So of course, like the threat, it's always there. He's
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like, funk that I'm eliminating the threat. I'm getting rid of you.
24:21
Man. That part I fully agree with. I'm saying, understand, yeah,
24:27
eliminate threats and he don't have to do it. But that ain't the
24:30
point he's gonna do it. Yeah, No, I agree there. I
24:33
just think that you've already eliminated the threat and you're being foolish like because now
24:37
you're gonna start some shit that you can't win. He's being greedy, Yes,
24:42
he's being greedy like Taylor's And that's where you when I to the Malcolm
24:47
Mexim Martin Luther King thing, and again the very basic binary version of these
24:52
super people because that's not exactly exactly who or Malcolm were. Um. But
24:57
again and just using that whole Magneto Professor X comparison too, it's just like,
25:03
well, one it's like, oh, well we can live in harmony
25:04
and it's definitely a need and it's more of that. Another one's just like,
25:08
nah, I get rid of these niggas. He's definitely a mad needo,
25:12
but she's like, no, none of y'all just to stay around and
25:15
I and I've largely after with my needos. So like, I understand where
25:21
he's coming from, and his approach is, you know, I don't think
25:26
it's I commend the guy for for sticking to it, sticking with it,
25:30
but he don't have to know, he don't have no And the other side,
25:34
I mean, I guess it works for the strolls, but I do
25:38
not believe nuking the planet works for Earth. So I definitely disagree with that
25:42
one. Yes, And that's stupid because it's like, so you're gonna scorch
25:45
Earth, literally scorch Earth policy, just because you want to get rid of
25:49
what you perceive an infestation, even though this it was our motherfucking planet first
25:53
no, no, we aren't. That we were here first. I don't
25:57
care. Then you're an infestation too, because all came after I was here
26:00
first. I am your og No. But capitalist society is an infestation upon
26:06
the planet. Sure, yeah, are we nuking the planet right now?
26:08
Though slowly, slowly, slowly, we are doing it from the planet is
26:14
extreme and correct, And he said, he said, he keeps saying,
26:17
I'm just hastening the inevitable and in those ways like damn, Nigga, you
26:21
not you not seeing the forest for the trees like you got Beyonce, you
26:26
know, like during the inevitable, is the only one where's saving? I
26:30
mean she's one, you know, there's others. Yeah yeah, um,
26:34
but you know you mentioned you felt that he was cold blooded gravic. Yeah,
26:40
definitely, because he's out here. He murdered his man's, you know,
26:42
like with no problem. But that really is man's. If you are
26:47
completely convinced you're fighting a war and you know that Nigga's lying, and you
26:51
know that Nigga's snitched, you know that Nigga, I mean we're already snitched.
26:55
What does it matter now you got him back? You can't have it
26:57
by your side. You can't. It's a pure ever. But I mean
27:04
for the same reason. You know, in every fucking spy movie when this
27:07
when the person who snitches get caught, what do they do. They eat
27:11
the cyanide pill because they are not They're going to die anyway. They're going
27:14
to die on their own terms. They are told, if you get captured,
27:18
kill yourself because you can't come back here. That's just once again,
27:21
just like how Maria died. It's part of your job. You decide to
27:25
be a warrior and an operative. This is one of the things that might
27:29
happen to you. I mean, he also murdered a bunch of humans and
27:32
plants to newte the Earth is pretty much why I said you're troll blooded.
27:33
You know, well that's you. Yeah, what about the animals. No
27:37
one's talking about the animals. That's Earth. That's what I'm talking about.
27:40
That is all like you know, people who have that's you know, the
27:42
whole ecosystem that has no control of anything, that lives in harmony without humanity,
27:48
and you're trying to neute that to nothingness. Like, No, that's
27:51
where I lose That's where you lose me completely. No, that's hard perfect.
27:56
You're worse than the Flashmasters. You're You're a complete moron. Yeah.
28:00
No, I cannot agree with graphic at all. Now I think about it,
28:03
just for a hot second, because the fact that you're like, I
28:04
can be down with you killing every human on planet that you know, well,
28:08
I will never be down there. Like I said, I don't agree
28:11
with them, and let me because I don't agree with the man. I
28:11
just I understand where you're coming from. You know, humanities are camps on
28:15
the planet. But when you start talking about you know, cows, like,
28:18
come on, man, what about the puppies. Yeah, puppies,
28:22
No, no, never any innocent little pigs. Come on, we got
28:26
how babe, but not your love for bigs are awesome dog Charlotte's web.
28:32
Shit. Yeah, you mentioned Wolverine for some reason. What's the what's the
28:37
connection with Wolverine? Oh? That was just me making jokes because Bradick is
28:41
in the nuclear reactors that looked like the same thing it was in that hole.
28:48
You know. Hey, you know the MCU is all one big melting
28:52
pot at this point, so you know, I'm just making some connections there.
28:56
Um, you said that you had something, you know that you really
28:59
wanted to express about this episode that I really wanted to know about. You
29:02
know, yeah, we did touch on it already with the whole turning white
29:06
thing, but I absolutely wanted to talk about that conversation between Nick Fury and
29:10
Rody. It was interesting, It was very interesting. It literally a cop,
29:18
he's a cop, one hundred percent, one hundred percent the Feds.
29:22
But it was a very real white man telling him what to do with no
29:26
problem. It was a very real help from our Negro friend Beach, help
29:30
about our speech from Nick Fury. And that was trifling too from two grown
29:37
as black men. What was trifling from Nick's plandpoint or trifling from Roodie standpoint?
29:42
And both? I mean, I agree with Nick right and I love
29:47
that they, you know, made an example of Alexander Piers and brought it
29:49
back to Robert Redford's character from Captain American Civil War, who don't people who
29:53
don't remember who Alexander Pierce is, and you know that he was the mediocre
29:57
white man who had their job. And that was a great line and a
30:02
great call back to, you know, a mediocre white man who somehow made
30:04
it to the top and was terrorizing everyone being a meteorocal white man. So
30:10
I thought Nick was right. But it's also like you can't just call on
30:17
that when you out here looking crazy too, you know, like you can't
30:21
be like yo, helping brother out, you know, when helping a brother
30:25
out might get everybody killed. This is also not some random in street right.
30:29
He's known as nigga for like a hundred years. True. Indeed he
30:32
sunned this nigga like he you know, raised this man. So it's I
30:36
mean, Rhodes is a cop. You know that like looked false. You
30:38
know, I hate to bring it up again, but Rhodes, then I
30:42
say this last week the road stood by. Why this man said, you
30:45
know, where's my roadie? And you know then he got blasted out the
30:48
sky book that before after he got blast I thought that was a point.
30:53
The man says, where bring me back my roadie? Did he hear them
30:56
say that? What do you mean? What was he supposed to do?
30:59
Like, don't call me a little boy, white man? Like, what
31:02
was he supposed to do? No? I And in my perfect world,
31:06
the scene would have gone like this, He said bring me back to my
31:07
roadie, and then Rhodes is like, what you know? And then he
31:10
gets hit because he's, you know, distracted by this racism. This man
31:14
just like instead of him being distracted by what was it, because he got
31:18
distracted by vision, no Vision shoots him. I can't remember why he gets
31:23
wet, but you know, just right before that, he's like, bring
31:26
me back my roadie, and then Vision shoots and somebody jars vision. I
31:30
think, right, that's what happened. I think Tony jars vision. I
31:34
can't remember, but I really don't remember. That was so long ago.
31:37
Yeah, but Rhodes gets hit after he says bring me back my roadie.
31:41
And you know, Rhodes never you know, whooped that man's ass for that?
31:45
I don't know. Like I've heard people trying to defend that line and
31:48
I don't get it. But roads, you know, without that line whatever.
31:52
Throughout this Rhodes is the FEDS straight up like me is defens too.
31:57
But Rhodes is really the nick nick nick Fury. But he's rogue fed.
32:02
He's on the ouself red, white and blue and got in that armor with
32:06
no problem. Absolutely, I mean, we're gonna see that and I uh,
32:10
better he better have he better go back to the black and white in
32:15
that hope he cannot wear that red white and blue shit he was rocking in
32:17
the Infinity War. She was a travesty and I noticed from the comments it
32:22
was a travesty in the common suit. Called himself, well, the current
32:25
Captain America got the current Captain America Falcon got the red white and blue on
32:30
what you mean? And he looked good in it, though, did he?
32:32
I didn't like that suit that was they've they've changed up for the movie.
32:38
So don't work out of here just like that. So okay, But
32:43
yeah, back to the conversation. I look, no, let me make
32:49
that point. If this nigga don't get a new shoe for his new movie,
32:53
Jenus Christ, this nigga went through like five movies with one suit.
32:58
Finally got one new suit for Afinity Wars. He damned will better have like
33:00
three new suits in this new movie. Yeah, I said, I'm at
33:04
Armor Awards Arm Awards, talk about it and in the movie called arm Awards.
33:07
Man better have a twenty suits, twenty suits. So back to the
33:13
conversation, Ben, I mean between Nick Fury and Rhodes. I just thought
33:15
it was very interesting and again just the two black man, the two the
33:20
two stately black men having his conversation, and yes, I saw. I
33:24
was looking at the comparison and contract of that. Like you see when when
33:28
he first calls Rhodi and Roody surrounded by these white folks and he's surrounded by
33:32
his own essentially secret service and his assistance and this and that he has become
33:37
the man, right, the man that that I didn't even want to say
33:42
he was fighting before because I just felt like he was always on your side.
33:44
But he has become the man right, And now you have Nick on
33:47
the outskars of things, looking crazy on the streets, right, and for
33:53
for for him to bring him in and be like, look, I actually
33:57
try to help you, and you got me looking crazy. You're not deserving
34:00
Like to me, he kind of basically told Fury that he was mediocre m
34:05
hm, and that ship was cold cold. That man said the same people
34:09
I share an ancestral heritage with. I got to tell you, you're washed
34:15
like that. But why that's this moment? But but and you know,
34:19
because I just feel like I've been waiting for that, right, Is that
34:22
what you're about to I felt like been waiting for this one, Like,
34:25
man, fuck this, nigga, nick I can't wait for this day,
34:29
nigga, I'm going I don't know if you've seen Joining Lucas's new new video
34:36
for really you should watch that actually because it another shots you know right as
34:44
he says, I doubt it, but give watched that one Join in Lucas
34:51
video and that was minute to my life I'll never get back. And well,
34:53
no, this one is cool. But the reason why I'm mentioning it
34:55
a lot of people have seen it, particularly this week, and a lot
34:59
of people ask Rode reminds me of a Broski just in terms of what you
35:02
said about You've been waiting all this time to say some shit to this person
35:07
that you just had some bones to pick with or you're playing like you with
35:10
him. You're playing like you you about that about them and you love them,
35:15
but then you got basically got hate raid in you. Oh wow,
35:16
like I'm mister Curtis that yes, But moving on, I mean as a
35:24
black man, Ben, I mean it's now that you represent the one black
35:28
man on the show. How did you feel about this black man, very
35:30
black man conversation? Thank you. I'm glad I'm black man on this show.
35:37
Um, because I don't represent all black Men. I thought it was
35:40
an interesting conversation, but like I said, it was also kind of a
35:44
straightforward conversation where Rhodes is a cop and you know, he's definitely fully accepted
35:50
his role as a cop. He's always been a cop. You know,
35:52
he was on the side of the cops in Civil War and he's still a
35:57
cop to this date. And while he is out there is facing a real
36:02
threat and it's kind of like Rhodes is I say, I just think sometimes
36:08
this show so far at least, has had a lot of characters acting like
36:13
idiots. So the plot the movie roles all the way wrong though, particularly
36:16
when he interrogates Nick Fury, saying and and and really emphasizes it's you're he
36:22
talks to Fury like he basically shades the funk out of Fury and then said
36:28
wait and then says your war like he's like at like why like and he
36:32
has a point there, like Nick is basically almost making this about himself,
36:37
and sure you can blame him, but he's like, no one can help
36:39
me. I gotta do this. And it's just like you're a word of
36:43
you created the Avengers. You should know out to anybody understand anybody. You
36:46
can't do shit by yourself. Yeah, and also the idea that the strolls
36:52
would just take over the Avengers. Why wouldn't they just take over the Avengers
36:57
if they I guess right now there aren't Avengeance and they don't know who they
37:00
are, but they could always they can always show up a Spider Man.
37:04
They could show up as anybody right now and be like, no, I'm
37:07
I'm that dude, you know, but I think he meant from this point
37:09
standpoint of they could get like kidnapping, the whole DNA situation happened, but
37:14
he don't know about that yet. None of them know that these niggas is
37:15
working on super scrawls. That's a whole another level, you know. So
37:21
it's just, you know, that was kind of like, you know,
37:23
their way of hand waving out the fact that they're not paying none of these
37:27
niggas to show up besides cameo we might get, you know, I'm sure
37:30
we're going to get a cameo from somebody at some point, you know,
37:34
that's true. Yeah, how do you feel about I almost called a Deniest
37:38
Targarian? How do you feel about Guya and that whole relationship between her and
37:44
grab It because I fully whole hardly believe that gravit. No, she's lying
37:50
and been lazing with her dad and all this stuff. Definitely, Yeah,
37:53
he just playing along to you know, use her for what he can to.
37:58
You know, he deside some burker and she's trying to play him along
38:00
until she decides to murk him like he's been giving her like clear side eyes
38:06
like to her face. Yeah, and like the other dude, like when
38:09
she says something like when she she was on a computer snooping around about the
38:13
DNA experiments and then she switched it real quick to the one that looks like
38:16
your little YACHTI and then she was just like, oh, he's loyal.
38:21
And then Gravil looked at her loyalty huh like you know, like like he
38:24
knows. So they both just playing each other. Yeah, they both know.
38:29
This is the Cold War still going on, you know, they know,
38:31
but they can't kill each other just yet, just like Russia and you
38:35
know us, because it'll cause other problems. So that's all that is.
38:39
I like her in this roll, though I had to say I do like
38:42
her in this rold, I won't say that I agree. I hope she
38:45
gets more to do. I don't remember her actual her name, her captain
38:49
name in the show. But how are you clocking this white woman who's like
38:53
basically sign your false worthy? Are you blocking how she moved right now?
39:00
In love with her? And the falls Worth are a family in the comics
39:04
that goes far back there. She's related at some point to the Union Jack,
39:12
and she even mentions that there was a great spymaster who started the tradition
39:15
to put the clots up there. I don't know what that is. I
39:17
think that was just made for the show. But Union Jack is a character
39:22
from the comics. He's like the British version of Captain America. Like I
39:24
talked about him last week. He holds a piece and he wears the Union
39:29
Jack the British flag as his costume, but he got the GAT and he
39:32
doesn't have any super soldier serium. And it's usually you know, one person
39:37
was Union Jack back in World War Two, and then there was another person
39:40
in a modern era who was Union Jack, and they're related. They're always
39:45
in the Falseworth family. Okay, so she's just about it. Yeah,
39:49
but she this particular character was created for the MCU and I'm not sure if
39:54
we will see Union Jack or any of the rest of the falls Worth,
39:58
but she's about it. I of her. I think the actress is phenomenal
40:01
and I just think she's hilarious with her you know, start her delivery.
40:06
Yeah, like we're gonna do this a hardware that way. Okay, fine,
40:08
don't be that way he said, to the easy way or the other
40:10
way. Yeah, here comes to torture, you know, like no problem,
40:15
Yeah, and unflinching and smiling while do it, you know, right?
40:20
Yeah? So I love her? Yeah, okay, any other character
40:23
agree with her either? You know, her approach is wild, but this
40:29
is what it is. Um Any other characters that you wanted to talk about
40:32
mentioned like, I mean, I pretty much mentioned most of the people who
40:36
showed up here, including like again that counsel, that round table who decided
40:39
to do it cool and vote Graphic in as scroll general. Yeah, who
40:45
was that smart? No no, no, no, no, no,
40:47
no no once again, no come on, of course not. Who is
40:51
the East Indian looking woman who Graphic talked to him? Was like, you
40:55
made all this possible because she wasn't a scientists who are working on the harvests
41:00
on the super scrawl. Shit, you mean in the council. No,
41:05
when he leaves the thing, he goes back to he leaves the council.
41:08
Yeah, he goes back to the hotout. He stops to some woman while
41:12
everyone's cheering, and he's like, you made it all this possible. All
41:14
right, let me go back to that because I don't think I remember exactly
41:20
when that was or what he says. Yeah, oh, I see her
41:24
now, Okay, I don't know who that is. No clue. She
41:30
says, thank you, sir, Without you this with me possible. Then
41:34
it zooms in on her face and she just shakes his hand. She I
41:37
assume she was one of the scientists. Got me, folks, Yeah,
41:42
have you seen her before? Remembers only only the second episode. I don't
41:45
remember. H y'all got me anyone, you know, leave a comment let
41:50
us know where we miss that, because I have no clue who that woman
41:52
is. And that was bugging me because, like I say, she's not
41:54
the two. It's a couple who are running the machine, you know,
41:59
the harvest machine. Yeah, there's a couple of the white couple yep,
42:02
and that's not her. So yeah, done, Well, we're gonna understand
42:07
her significance soon, I'm sure and that and again I just presumed it is
42:12
related to this whole the harvest and all this other stuff. So yep,
42:15
and that is something we've only seen the first well i'd only seen the first
42:19
two episodes, so going forward, everything is brand new to us as well.
42:22
Something is telling me that she's going to be a retcon type character where
42:27
they're gonna say she was in all these other pertinent areas, you know,
42:31
in the background, you know that you see all these past movies, she
42:34
was there. She she was actually this other person in the skies, right,
42:37
and she's the one who got the DNA, Like maybe she's the one
42:39
who got the DNA from group and got the DNA from extremists and all this
42:45
other stuff. Like for the last thirty years, she'd been the one who
42:47
was pretending to be a child in a kid or oh no, was that
42:52
a man who was the scurol that was leading fury, Like when when they
42:54
when Homeboy blew up the town square in Moscow, you know that was that
43:00
was? That was okay? So no, I go back to my first
43:05
thing, where I'm like, they're probably gonna use her as a reccond and
43:07
say she was in every fucking movie where you just didn't know it, just
43:09
like aunt Man was there, you just never saw him. And where it
43:13
was, uh um, call up city and oh yeah, his hand was
43:19
somewhere in the Arctic. Wow. Yeah, right, because he was in
43:23
Wakanda fighting the Holt and that severed by doctor Strange's sportal portal into um it
43:31
was somewhere like no, no, that's right. He that happens early in
43:36
the movie when he's fighting him in New York and then yeah, Strange puts
43:40
but it's like he know, he drops him in the artic and then his
43:45
hand gets severed into New York is where it is? Yes, okay,
43:49
so yeah, so his hand was in New York. So pretty easy to
43:51
find, I guess, bro funny funny story. The internet had been saying,
43:57
you know, if we know that about doctor Strange's portals, why didn't
43:59
he use that to sever Thanos's hand when he had the gauntlet. And I'm
44:04
like, well, we wouldn't have a movie, because you wouldn't have a
44:07
movie, And it's all someone of those things. Verole was reaching forward.
44:09
You know, you can't open the portal around his hand and then you know,
44:14
think he's hand yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like
44:19
it's gotta be timed right, and yeah, yeah, that's just not so
44:22
easy with the dude who's not going to be like Thanos was never reaching out
44:25
to you to punch you dog. You know, he never needed to do
44:29
that. Do I look like an idiot to you? You know, he
44:30
would yell out that some shit like that. Man, it was turning your
44:32
ass to bubbles before he was uh yeah. And then like towards the end,
44:39
you see Fury return to some home, some nice home in the suburb
44:45
somewhere where he comes home to a scroll woman who then shape shifts into a
44:52
black woman and he goes another room. Was on his right, kid,
44:57
I kind of saw that, Like, I think it's kind of obvious that
44:59
he would end up marrying or living with or domiciling with. I don't even
45:02
know what to call it. A scroll he's married. I mean, he
45:06
puts the ring back on, you know, And the first time I watched
45:09
it, I wasn't sure if he knew sure it was a scroll. And
45:13
then the second time I watched it, I realized, yeah, well,
45:15
look this man is washed. But but if you've been married somebody. I
45:20
think you've been married a few years. I think you can see it out
45:22
all right. But then the second time I watch, I realized the woman
45:24
is the same woman who introduces him to graphic in ninety five. He's a
45:30
good minute likely and they've probably been together most of the know that that boy
45:35
was already born, is already born to other people? Who gets murdered?
45:38
Yeah? No, no, And the physiology, I don't think of scrolls
45:42
and humans words like that, where they could have had scrolls and humans can
45:45
have babies. I doubt it they can't. I thought they could procreate.
45:49
It'd be highly illogical if they could think about it, you know, the
45:52
different planets, like it was hot, they're different planets. Reproductive organs are
45:59
just trying to happen to be like ours when they're shape shifters. Who said
46:04
about it, like wait, wait, wait, don't necessarily have to be
46:07
like ours? Can they somehow procreate with us and create babies? Can they
46:14
use our DNA in some way shape before? Maybe it's not through the sexual
46:17
relations like we know, but can they do it? Who knows? That's
46:22
you know, that's another story. But I would have to say you're right,
46:24
they would probably have a better chance than most races. And when the
46:28
shape doesn't, don't don't they inside shape shift too? Yeah, that's I
46:30
would say. I would think they could, you know, perhaps get working
46:34
organs and then boom boom boom and yeah to boom boom boom nine months later.
46:39
That's better explain to the kid how how babies come from? Well,
46:43
we go boom boom boom appeared. Well, I mean it starts with a
46:46
little boom boom boom and there he and and you know, other things happen.
46:52
And were you surprised by that seeing that Fury was married to a squirl?
46:55
Yes, the first time. I'm like by that. I was like,
47:00
oh, that's how could you be surprised by that? He's been working
47:02
with these people for so processes stroll, I mean him being married that okay,
47:07
that's being married. Yes, because at one point he mentioned that.
47:13
I think that throws back to what's the one where Cap when that's the first
47:17
Winter Soldier, when Cap goes on the run, right, and when you
47:22
know, when Fury goes on the run, when he shows up at his
47:23
house, When he shows up at CAP's house, he says something about having
47:28
a wife, but it seemed like he was saying that it's part of his
47:30
cover story, so it didn't seem like that was a true thing. But
47:35
they could reference that again, you know, and go back to that they
47:37
want he actually did tell the truth all those ye or I mean, well,
47:40
it's it's only cap he told that too, and capping around to talk
47:44
about it, so it don't really matter at this point. Yeah. So
47:47
yeah, he's married, got his stroll wife, so he's definitely not down
47:52
with falls worth plan and you know, obviously graphics plan. So because falls
47:58
Worth would definitely murder his wife for no problem. Here's the thing. I
48:02
have a question. There is another dude with the whole wife thing. But
48:07
you know, when we go back and they say, oh, could we
48:08
call the Avengers and stuff? What avengers? Who? Who the fuck are
48:12
they calling? There's there's nobody to call. Oh Nat is dead? Uh,
48:20
Hawkeye washed? Who the fuck knows where iron Man is? Um tot?
48:27
Who the hell knows what? Door? Well, we know he's in
48:29
out of fucking space somewhere somewhere, Oh Captain Marvel in the space or he's
48:34
trying to save if it's coming at the same time and he and that other
48:36
than mention there because cath America's dead. They've even been having meetings Captain Marvel
48:44
Rocket Raccoon Shane. She was introduced to them one. Okay, yeah,
48:49
they considered the new Avengers. Yes, they've been meeting as you know,
48:52
their other unless they got another name like the Ultimates. They've been meeting as
48:58
a team. Remember that was shown at the shame sheet, like all of
49:00
them, you know, the Hulk, it's still meeting with them. So
49:02
she Hulk would be now involved because you know, Wholk would reference them.
49:07
So there is a team you could form, you know. So, yeah,
49:13
there is a potential. It's not the old Aventuers, that's for sure.
49:16
No life. I mean you're gonna have to at some point, you
49:22
know how you said, I mean it wasn't a defensive Yes, you just
49:25
said, I mean, I ain't got no choice. He had no choice,
49:29
and the first one, when you know, when he formed the Adventures,
49:31
it was just this is who he had and hope it worked out.
49:35
They spend most of the first movie fighting, so you know it worked out
49:37
of the end. I felt like they were kind of matured that at that
49:40
point, right't like not especially Tony Starker is far from mature. You know,
49:45
Bruce not a mature person, but matured. And Bruce Banner is a
49:52
walking time bomb. You know. They had problems on the First Adventures,
49:55
like Captain America's school, Black Widows are ex murder were you know, with
50:00
all kind of issues of our own. Captain America's a man out of time,
50:04
so he got issues. Like they had issues, you know, it's
50:06
not like they were Thor obviously issues Daddy's you know, issues all that type
50:10
of ship. Look, no, I trust Shane she more you know,
50:16
uh, surey, you know, call up sure definitely. What are they
50:21
gonna call up? Call up Younger Ventures? Like what are they going?
50:24
Got Hawk? You know? She'll she like like if you call him,
50:29
he would be like, Yo, call Shorty called Kate. I'm done,
50:32
I'm washed, you know, like I'm here with the fam called Kate.
50:37
You know. So that's how you would get the new Younger Ventures just like
50:40
you know, Kate would come in. Who else are they shown? Thor's
50:44
a little shorty? Um tell yeah, the little girl? Yeah, Iron
50:47
Patriot? Would you know to do from cap is around? You know,
50:52
but like I don't think they're gonna be called up like that at all.
50:55
That's the thing I think, you know, when whatever the That's Adventures movie
50:59
is still could be grown as a vengeance, it ain't gonna to your right.
51:01
Yeah, I just gotta say that again. I feel like I'm saying
51:05
this like every Disney Plus show, where is Valentina? Where's her? And
51:08
her nigga's Like, I want to see her, and I want to see
51:12
that idiot, your favorite, that nigga, the fake Captain America. What
51:15
is that man's name that got served by the dormlaja us agent. Yes him,
51:20
Yes, John walking out because he's so fucking funny in his idiocy.
51:24
So I want to see him. You see him, You probably see Valentina.
51:28
But you know, like I say, look, remember these contracts only
51:31
go so far from him, not everybody's. Don't be in every show or
51:36
I can see. I think I'm a piece of her, you know how
51:37
she says like five words and yeah, Valentina, I definitely think will show
51:40
up in is this a secret invasion? You know at some point I feel
51:43
like you're show up now? Yeah, your boy, I doubt we see
51:46
him again into Thunderballs whatever. I guess that's been rich I feel about I
51:52
love him, but you know, I'll wait, um, so what are
51:54
we what are we hopeful for or what are we predicting is happening in episode
51:59
three of Secret Invasion. I don't know, I'll be honest, like,
52:04
right now, it's just going yeah, and this show is not really like
52:07
blowing my mind where I'm like, oh no, it's just like, all
52:10
right, well, this guy's got an idiot plan and Fury you got to
52:14
stop them. Like I am interested to see what's happening in the story,
52:17
but to your point, I'm not like, oh, I need to rush
52:20
to the TV every week, Like I don't feel that way quite yet.
52:23
I don't know if I will, but we do got to give it time.
52:25
Also, the crazy part is there's not a lot of time anyway,
52:29
right, Like it's only six episodes, right, and it's the only six
52:31
episode total, four more to go, and it's just like, well,
52:35
what kind of ground are they going to cover? And they literally have to
52:37
go you know, through heaven and Earth in terms of covering a lot of
52:43
ground in the next two episodes, right, So like what could they possibly
52:45
do? I mean this, what is the conflict right now? Gravick has
52:52
been named Scrolled General Graviic has been given essentially absolute power to do whatever the
52:59
fuck he wants with the Secret Scroll Army. Nick Fury is one hundred and
53:05
ten percent rogue right now, He's gonna do what the fuck you want to
53:07
do. All his niggas is dead and or excuming Nicado. And I mean
53:13
he's basically John Wick at this point, right, And I mean, and
53:17
then you have you have Gaya, who's essentially a double agent. At this
53:22
point, what the fuck else is happening? Like Gravis is going to continue
53:27
to try to kill everybody can, so I mean, let the body hit
53:30
the floor, But what else is happening? And who? Basically to me,
53:34
it's like, okay, now we're at the point where Fury has to
53:37
find some more allies. Where is he finding these people he has? He
53:42
can't do this shit along. As much as he wants to say, there's
53:44
my ward, is my ward? He can't do it by himself. No,
53:45
man's an island. Where's your hill? Where's the help? That's a
53:50
good question, now that I'm interested, Will we see other people come in?
53:52
I don't think it's all I mean, I think he needs to rally
53:54
around with Tatoes his daughter. Y'all have to get what's her name on his
54:00
side. Agen Colston ain't come in. Who the fuck's helping him? He
54:05
has to get falseworth on his side. He has to figure that relationship out
54:07
where you know, he's like, you can't murder all these people. You
54:12
know, She's gonna be like, why not. Yeah, she's gonna give
54:15
me a good reason why I shouldn't. Yeah, He's gonna have to convince
54:16
her because that's the only way that he can win this fight. And like
54:20
you said, this is not a show where we're gonna see somebody introducing the
54:23
third episode who hasn't already been there, like maybe one, maybe one or
54:28
two more players, you know, but most of the players are set at
54:30
this point because everyone's introduced permission in the first episode. But if most of
54:35
the players are set, who the hell else? Like what happens next?
54:37
Are they gonna just reveal super squell next? Like what happens next? Like
54:39
who? I don't? And maybe that's what I'm arguing about, which is
54:44
like what more Gravit do before he just blows up? I was gonna say,
54:47
this is more like a privilege, like privileged viewpoint about the fact that
54:51
I can't track what's really should happen next because it doesn't. Nothing seems logical
54:54
about what would happen next, because I don't see. You said that the
54:58
players are set, but I don't see where this goals in the next episode.
55:02
Gravicator continue to try and develop the super Scroll ship. You know,
55:07
I don't know why, because I developed already. I thought he said,
55:08
it's almost time for the harvest. No, they keep trying to do it.
55:12
Remember the scientists are sitting there pulling the trigger and and she was like,
55:16
you don't have it or something. I don't know, but he's yeah,
55:20
he's still trying to gather information, you know, ingredients whatever to cook
55:23
his pop. So ye like, yeah, you know, yeah, he's
55:30
out there, got to get the right recipe. We'll see what happened.
55:32
You know. Dubious food, I mean so many dubious meals, boy,
55:38
dubious meals, man, bro, I spent so much time on meals when
55:45
I ship first, When I first lade that game, they said dubious.
55:46
I fucking cry. I ate that ship too. Every time out it got
55:51
sick. Damn it to yourself, wild forever and let her go to waste.
56:00
So yeah, I don't know. Man, Like, I'm just I'm
56:04
not that invested so far, you know, I just don't really care to
56:07
even kind of play. I'm like, do you do you well? Do
56:10
you hope it will change for you? I think episodes, bro, I
56:14
really hope it will change. I really hope by next episode something, because
56:17
that's that's probably you need a convincing villain. And I do not feel like
56:21
Graphic is convincing. Do you think it's convincing? You think falseworth would be
56:24
more convincing. No, neither of them re convincing. Both of them are
56:28
too extreme and it makes no logical sense, you know, Like that's thing
56:31
I needed, feeling like the flashmash up. I was like with them up
56:35
until they start sense to you. Yes, half of the people gotta go
56:39
dog. You know, It's like logic would also say, hey, maybe
56:43
I give more so than those people would just you know, eventually steal that
56:47
too. Fucking you know. Look, I don't I know, But the
56:50
same though, I wasn't really down with Danels either. I don't. I
56:52
never have been, you know, I thought he's more logical than graviing.
56:54
No, I think the logical people were like, you know, kill Monger
56:59
had some good ideas, the Flashmatches had some good ideas. You know,
57:04
but if they had some good ideas, but you but you fucking shade the
57:07
Flagsmatches every chance you get the Oh no, But I've really explained that.
57:12
I was fully down with them until I felt the writing failed them as characters.
57:16
I felt like it was like, no, we gotta make you know,
57:20
and that's why I felt it was silly. And then I shaved them
57:22
because they got blown up, and I thought I was like the fact that
57:27
their whole thing just ended in a van, you know, like right right
57:30
end of y'all? Right? Do you think there's now where people talk about
57:36
MCU fatigue? And you know, in terms of the films, are you
57:38
thinking we're experiencing Disney plus SiGe? No. I think that when things are
57:44
exceptional, they're exceptional, and when things are average, they're average. And
57:46
I think the show is average, okay in the story, like, I
57:51
think this show is just average so far, and because of that, it's
57:53
just like that's why in an average reaction. That's fair. Yeah, that's
58:00
fair. Do you have anything else to say about episode two of not really
58:06
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ain't no fan fix shit. Like this is some official shit. They created
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I've seen some stuff and this shit is this shit is out of the
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legend, the legend in the game iconic, one of the great and like
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top down and said, it's inspired by Jimmy Hendricks, but it's also allegorical
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tale where it's about It's a science fiction, an afro futuristic version of Hendricks
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in this story, and it's related to a specific point in his career.
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There's not too much more I want to say. Mellow did say that,
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and I can say this. It's about point when an artist has to reinvent
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shit in it. It features tributes and homages to just everything that I've ever
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and maybe they'll stop saying Nick Fury is so old? Will then I
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It's alive. But you know, go ahead and you know, make
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