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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today everyone, Mondo Gonzalez here with
- 0:12Speaker 2: Gary Steerman, and we're going to be talking about a
- 0:14Speaker 2: pretty fun topic as it relates to the Ten Kings
- 0:18Speaker 2: of Daniel, chapter seven in Revelation seventeen. Before we do
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- 0:48Speaker 2: Should be a good time. Well, Gary, here we are.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I will say this that we are here talking about
- 0:53Speaker 2: these the ten Kings because of you.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Well, I started it some time ago because it occurred
- 1:01Speaker 3: to me that the Bible talks about groups of ten
- 1:04Speaker 3: rulers that involve power and also corruption, and it went
- 1:11Speaker 3: from there. I wrote an article and you wrote an
- 1:15Speaker 3: article in response to the one I wrote, and we're
- 1:18Speaker 3: still infatuated with that topic. Because it's a growing topic,
- 1:23Speaker 3: I'm going to toss it back to you with the
- 1:25Speaker 3: word oligarch. Yes, the ten Kings today, there's this word
- 1:30Speaker 3: that we hear about all the time on television.
- 1:34Speaker 4: People use the word oligarch. What does that mean?
- 1:36Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because your original article was in November
- 1:40Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and you brought up the word oligarch there,
- 1:44Speaker 2: which we'll give some more definitions in a minute, but
- 1:47Speaker 2: in the general, most basic sense, it comes from two
- 1:50Speaker 2: Greek words and just means the rule of the few.
- 1:53Speaker 2: So you have a small group of people who are
- 1:56Speaker 2: in the ruling class, the lead class. Oftentimes you see this.
- 2:01Speaker 2: It used to be used quite often as relates to
- 2:03Speaker 2: maybe Russian oligarchs who were very wealthy and who were
- 2:07Speaker 2: part of the inner circle of Putin going back twenty
- 2:10Speaker 2: years and so in that environment, what kind of what
- 2:14Speaker 2: we've seen over there. We didn't really see that as
- 2:17Speaker 2: much here in America until probably the last ten years
- 2:22Speaker 2: or so. But your article brought up the idea of
- 2:28Speaker 2: an oligarch and what it could mean. And before we
- 2:31Speaker 2: go there. I think it might be important because when
- 2:36Speaker 2: we come to Daniel seven or Revelation seventeen, you have
- 2:39Speaker 2: these ten kings that are brought up, and there's a
- 2:43Speaker 2: couple different viewpoints on this. I mean, if you go
- 2:46Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago, the traditional viewpoint by dispensational teachers
- 2:51Speaker 2: was always that they thought that this well, and many
- 2:56Speaker 2: of them still do that this indicates that the world
- 2:59Speaker 2: would be divided up into ten regions, and that basically
- 3:03Speaker 2: from the Club of Rome. The Club of Rome came
- 3:05Speaker 2: up with a ten region idea and their idea for globalism,
- 3:09Speaker 2: and so the dispensationalist grabbed onto that and said, yes,
- 3:12Speaker 2: this is good. Look at that. There is the whole
- 3:14Speaker 2: world is going to be divided up into ten regions,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and each region, for example, the North American Region or
- 3:20Speaker 2: the South American Union, maybe the African Union, it would
- 3:24Speaker 2: be led by a singular figure, a president or in
- 3:27Speaker 2: one sense for there they a king, so it'd be
- 3:29Speaker 2: a king over North America. And so for them, they
- 3:33Speaker 2: sought through that lens and unfortunate, well not say unfortunately,
- 3:36Speaker 2: that was what they had, but that viewpoint is still
- 3:40Speaker 2: its traditional viewpoint, still very strong, and many of the
- 3:43Speaker 2: older dispensational teachers. But when you came along you and
- 3:49Speaker 2: I would say this that still has in my mind
- 3:51Speaker 2: like a five percent chance of being right. But I
- 3:55Speaker 2: think the even some dispensational scholars. I was talking to
- 3:59Speaker 2: Tommy Ice this act so last week and he said, Model,
- 4:02Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case, even though he's a
- 4:03Speaker 2: classical dispensationals He says, because the coming Antichrist is going
- 4:09Speaker 2: to rule out of a revived Roman Empire, and the
- 4:11Speaker 2: arrived Roman Empire was basically Mediterranean based, not necessarily around
- 4:16Speaker 2: the world. But even though his rulership will extend the
- 4:18Speaker 2: whole world, that's not necessarily the case. So coming back
- 4:23Speaker 2: to your article, which was tremendous, you kind of opened
- 4:26Speaker 2: the gates on this is if you don't mind, Gary,
- 4:30Speaker 2: you wrote in the November twenty would you be willing
- 4:34Speaker 2: to read your definition. I mean, you talked about oligarchs.
- 4:39Speaker 3: Oligarch and I'll just quote myself here. Oligarchs are in
- 4:43Speaker 3: constant competition for rural domination and the old political ties
- 4:50Speaker 3: of the twentieth century being steadily altered to fit a
- 4:53Speaker 3: quote unquote new world order. So things are changing, you know,
- 4:57Speaker 3: in the past century, things have begun to shift and
- 5:01Speaker 3: the old world is passing away. But that doesn't mean
- 5:04Speaker 3: that that rule of a certain type won't come in,
- 5:08Speaker 3: and the Bible does predicting the latter days. Some powerful
- 5:11Speaker 3: rulers next sentence, new world order. That's an old term,
- 5:17Speaker 3: but now it's buttressed by high level digital technology. That
- 5:22Speaker 3: was only a dream a decade ago. A number of
- 5:24Speaker 3: dark figures have quietly risen to power back by super
- 5:28Speaker 3: technology incalculable wealth, and at the moment they operate in
- 5:34Speaker 3: the background, but their names, well, their names continually pop up.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Their technocrats, innovators of new technologies, in transportation, communications, shipping,
- 5:47Speaker 3: in daily transfer of coded information, in the trillions of
- 5:51Speaker 3: daily transactions. Information controls the world. Information is power. And
- 5:57Speaker 3: we've heard this little phrase, by the way, a lot lately.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Information is power, and we didn't have any idea what
- 6:04Speaker 3: that meant, but now we do. With AI looming in
- 6:07Speaker 3: the future. To continue here. Once it was common for
- 6:12Speaker 3: those who went before us to honor God as all powerful.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Our nation prayed for God's blessing. He brought us through earthquakes, famine, pestilence,
- 6:23Speaker 3: horrific wars. It was recognized that he saves us from
- 6:28Speaker 3: spiritual death. But now technology is seen as the world's savior,
- 6:33Speaker 3: without referring to any of them by name. Just think
- 6:37Speaker 3: of the billionaires of the digital world who are publicly
- 6:41Speaker 3: linked to a new world order of science, genetic transformation,
- 6:47Speaker 3: digitized global politics, and any of a variety of technologies.
- 6:52Speaker 3: They are now hailed as the ones who will save
- 6:56Speaker 3: the world through their new methodologies. Now we see this
- 7:04Speaker 3: flip on the TV. You see it in some form
- 7:07Speaker 3: or another. We see a looming power structure that's based
- 7:13Speaker 3: on mega millions of dollars, a world economy that's becoming
- 7:18Speaker 3: rapidly linked together via a satellite technology.
- 7:23Speaker 2: It is so true. One of the things that I
- 7:26Speaker 2: remember when you wrote this, Bob had sent it over
- 7:29Speaker 2: to me and said, hey, we want to do a
- 7:30Speaker 2: program on this, you know, can you want to discuss it.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, this is great, And so a
- 7:37Speaker 2: couple months later I had written my own article on
- 7:41Speaker 2: was maybe it was April of twenty one or something
- 7:44Speaker 2: like that, where I kind of took it and ran
- 7:47Speaker 2: with it because one of the things that you mentioned
- 7:50Speaker 2: as well in your quote, there was this word technocrat
- 7:55Speaker 2: and at our conferences. Lately, we've been having Patrick Wood,
- 7:59Speaker 2: who people don't know Patrick Wood. They got to find
- 8:01Speaker 2: him online. He's been following technocracy for forty years and
- 8:06Speaker 2: I think he's finally come into his own in the
- 8:09Speaker 2: sense of even though he's been talking about it, it
- 8:13Speaker 2: hasn't been as cool or popular, so to speak, until now.
- 8:17Speaker 2: And when I talked to when I gave this presentation
- 8:20Speaker 2: at a different he said, Monol, that's right on. I'm
- 8:22Speaker 2: a hundredsent agree with it. We see Alex Newman as
- 8:24Speaker 2: well talking about the technocrats and stuff. But let's give
- 8:29Speaker 2: a definition here because most people think, oh, well, this
- 8:32Speaker 2: is something new. Well, it's certainly technology. But a technocrat
- 8:37Speaker 2: is a proponent of technocracy, which is defined as a
- 8:42Speaker 2: theory and movement prominent about nineteen thirty two advocating control
- 8:46Speaker 2: of industrial resources, a reform of financial institutions, and reorganization
- 8:52Speaker 2: of the social system based on the findings of technologists
- 8:56Speaker 2: and engineers. Ultimately, a technocut seeks to influence all areas
- 9:00Speaker 2: of society and need not be in a governmental position
- 9:04Speaker 2: to wield power or influence. In fact, we will see
- 9:08Speaker 2: that they often get more done outside the bounds of
- 9:10Speaker 2: government positions. Really, this is where this technocracy idea basically rule.
- 9:20Speaker 2: That's what technocracy means is to rule through technology, right,
- 9:25Speaker 2: and nineteen thirty two that was a long time ago,
- 9:29Speaker 2: you know, almost one hundred years ago. So think about
- 9:32Speaker 2: the technology back in nineteen thirty two. Steam engine, you know,
- 9:36Speaker 2: there were some electricity was kind of the really the
- 9:40Speaker 2: jumping on of the industrial age.
- 9:42Speaker 3: But the airplane, the airplane, and it got faster and
- 9:45Speaker 3: faster and higher and higher, and then came the bomb
- 9:48Speaker 3: and then bigger bombs and then bigger bombs. And people
- 9:51Speaker 3: thinking about technology used to think about wars, implements of war,
- 9:57Speaker 3: engines of war, whether they be airplanes, are super tanks
- 10:01Speaker 3: or whatever. But you know, if something else is elbowing
- 10:05Speaker 3: its way in now, and that's intelligence, artificial intelligence, and
- 10:10Speaker 3: there's race for that now, and that fits right in
- 10:13Speaker 3: with what the Bible says about technocrats absolutely.
- 10:17Speaker 2: So I mean, let's right there. That's a great segue
- 10:19Speaker 2: because we want to unpack this a little bit more.
- 10:22Speaker 2: But let's go back to the Bible because in Daniel seven,
- 10:29Speaker 2: I'll read a couple passages and then we can we
- 10:32Speaker 2: can talk about this. Daniel Chapter seven verses nineteen through twenty.
- 10:39Speaker 2: He says, then I desire to know the exact meaning
- 10:41Speaker 2: of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others,
- 10:45Speaker 2: exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its claws
- 10:49Speaker 2: of bronze, and which devoured, crushed, and trampled down the
- 10:52Speaker 2: remainder with its feet, And the meaning of the ten
- 10:55Speaker 2: horns that were on its head, and the other horn
- 10:57Speaker 2: which came up, and before which three of them then fell,
- 11:00Speaker 2: namely that horn which had eyes and a mouth, uttering
- 11:03Speaker 2: great boasts, and which was larger in appearance than its associates,
- 11:10Speaker 2: Verse twenty four of Daniel seven. As for the ten horns,
- 11:12Speaker 2: out of this kingdom, ten kings will arise, and another
- 11:17Speaker 2: will arise after them, and he will be different from
- 11:19Speaker 2: the previous ones, and he will subdue three kings. So
- 11:24Speaker 2: your initial thoughts here, Gary, because there's some other places
- 11:26Speaker 2: that I want to go here, But your initial thoughts
- 11:28Speaker 2: on Daniel seven. What is Daniel? What's Daniel revealing here?
- 11:34Speaker 3: Well, he's talking about something that if you if you
- 11:38Speaker 3: look at history, he's not talking about the thing that
- 11:42Speaker 3: we focus on. We go back and we we think
- 11:46Speaker 3: of kings as dynasties, you know, a Babylonian dynasty, Assyrian dynasty,
- 11:52Speaker 3: a Roman dynasty, a Greek dynasty.
- 11:56Speaker 4: And we think of kings in the past.
- 11:58Speaker 3: We look back and we think of like family rule
- 12:02Speaker 3: handed down from one king to the next king. But
- 12:06Speaker 3: the Bible is not talk what you just referred to.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Ten kings that will emerge do not seem to be
- 12:14Speaker 3: related to each other except by a certain calling to
- 12:20Speaker 3: achieve a certain end, which just happens to be global power,
- 12:24Speaker 3: as the Bible puts it. So those ten kings in
- 12:27Speaker 3: the future that you just read about are a new
- 12:30Speaker 3: order of kings. They are kings today we would call
- 12:34Speaker 3: them technocrats among other things. And they're not related physically,
- 12:39Speaker 3: they're not from a single family, but they are related
- 12:43Speaker 3: by power and money.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Yes, And I think there's a couple things that are
- 12:47Speaker 2: important to stick out here. First in my mind, and
- 12:50Speaker 2: just looking at the text, he's talking about the fourth Beast,
- 12:54Speaker 2: so that we know that the Beast is a system,
- 12:59Speaker 2: it's a global power, and it doesn't just appear overnight, right,
- 13:03Speaker 2: And so there's a development. We also know in Daniel
- 13:06Speaker 2: chapter two that it has a connection to the Roman Empire,
- 13:12Speaker 2: which was the original because this is the fourth Beast,
- 13:14Speaker 2: which was unusual about it, because it had it had
- 13:17Speaker 2: its it had its influence certainly in the first century
- 13:21Speaker 2: with Jesus. We know that it took over Greece. That's
- 13:24Speaker 2: Daniel chapter two. We see that as well as in
- 13:27Speaker 2: Daniel earlier part of seven as relates to the other figures,
- 13:30Speaker 2: and even into eight. But here so you have this system,
- 13:34Speaker 2: that is this, this powerful system that is rooted in
- 13:37Speaker 2: I would say, ultimately in the Mediterranean basin, which of
- 13:41Speaker 2: course says influence over Israel. But out of it, it
- 13:44Speaker 2: says that out of this system comes these these ten people.
- 13:50Speaker 2: And then the other thing that that stands up is
- 13:53Speaker 2: it talks about the ten horns, but it talks about
- 13:57Speaker 2: that that last horn, the horn which had eyes in
- 13:59Speaker 2: the mouth and great boats and was larger in appearance,
- 14:02Speaker 2: and its associates the word associates there looking that up,
- 14:06Speaker 2: it's kind of a fascinating word. So what it reminds
- 14:10Speaker 2: me of is that the the it kind of has similarity.
- 14:14Speaker 2: So I wonder, I don't know, I'm not saying this dogmatically.
- 14:17Speaker 2: I wonder whether the coming Antichrist will be a technocrat himself,
- 14:22Speaker 2: because he has these associates, and he arises up, but
- 14:26Speaker 2: his appearance is larger than those surrounding him. And then
- 14:29Speaker 2: of course he's going to subdue three again out of
- 14:33Speaker 2: this kingdom, out of this system. This the system they
- 14:36Speaker 2: will arise, and another after them. So we know that
- 14:39Speaker 2: was the title of your article. Was it kind of
- 14:42Speaker 2: your your thesis in many ways was people are looking
- 14:45Speaker 2: at the Antichrist, which we believe the Antichrist will be
- 14:50Speaker 2: revealed after the rapture. But you said, well, hey, before
- 14:54Speaker 2: him comes the ten Kings, which is what this says,
- 14:58Speaker 2: because he will arise after they arise. But let me
- 15:01Speaker 2: read Revelations seventeen twelve, because they come up again. It
- 15:05Speaker 2: says the ten Horns, which you saw are the ten
- 15:09Speaker 2: kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they
- 15:12Speaker 2: receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour.
- 15:15Speaker 2: They have one purpose, and they give their power and
- 15:19Speaker 2: authority to the beasts. So let me say this, and
- 15:23Speaker 2: this is what this is what is important because most
- 15:28Speaker 2: people are going to go as you said earlier, Gary,
- 15:31Speaker 2: when people think of a king, they think of a dynasty,
- 15:33Speaker 2: like Prince Charles, you know, Queen Elizabeth then to Prince
- 15:36Speaker 2: Charles and then to his son William. But that is
- 15:42Speaker 2: one one definition of the Greek word. The Greek word
- 15:46Speaker 2: is basilis. And if people want to look this up,
- 15:49Speaker 2: people ask me all the time. It is the b
- 15:50Speaker 2: dag b dag, which is a the It's the best
- 15:55Speaker 2: Greek lexel con that New Testament scholars use in understanding
- 16:00Speaker 2: the Greek of what we call the coin a period
- 16:03Speaker 2: of the time of the Bible. But in their in
- 16:06Speaker 2: their lexicon, what they've recognized, they have no theological acts
- 16:11Speaker 2: to grind. The first entry is a king, like a
- 16:14Speaker 2: normal king, king Charles. But when I was began to
- 16:17Speaker 2: look at this, I was like, hey, let me, let
- 16:21Speaker 2: me see could these be technocrats or are they kings
- 16:23Speaker 2: over a region, you know, the North American read So
- 16:26Speaker 2: when I looked at this, I was like, hey, wait
- 16:27Speaker 2: a minute. The second, the second nuance here of their
- 16:31Speaker 2: own lexicon, they recognize that the Greek words, it says
- 16:34Speaker 2: this one who possesses unusual or transcendent power. So what
- 16:44Speaker 2: the focus of that description then is not on the
- 16:49Speaker 2: king of a kingdom, a geographical kingdom, but anyone who
- 16:54Speaker 2: possesses unusual or transcendent power. Now what I find fascinating, Gary,
- 16:59Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get your thoughts on this is in
- 17:02Speaker 2: Revelation seventeen twelve. It says these ten kings don't have
- 17:04Speaker 2: a kingdom. It says very clearly they have not received
- 17:06Speaker 2: a kingdom. So these these individual figures, I call them influencers,
- 17:11Speaker 2: which is what the Greek word says, unusual transcendent power,
- 17:15Speaker 2: which would be very interesting. So they don't have a kingdom.
- 17:18Speaker 2: They don't. They're not the king over in the North
- 17:20Speaker 2: American Union or South American Union. But verse thirteen says
- 17:24Speaker 2: in this at the end they have one purpose. They
- 17:28Speaker 2: give their power or their authority, and both of those
- 17:31Speaker 2: words authority can mean capabilities or certainly power is also influenced.
- 17:39Speaker 2: So that's why I call them the ten influencers. They
- 17:42Speaker 2: give their influence and their power.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Let me make it just cover.
- 17:46Speaker 3: You said influencer, and I want to react to that
- 17:48Speaker 3: quickly and then give it back to you. Because an
- 17:50Speaker 3: influencer today is someone who is able to handle mass
- 17:55Speaker 3: amounts of information. We call it information processing. That's the
- 18:03Speaker 3: term that has come up. We think of computers, and
- 18:06Speaker 3: now we're thinking of supercomputers. So vast in nature that
- 18:12Speaker 3: they're going to have to be powered by a nuclear reactor.
- 18:15Speaker 3: We're talking and we're talking about artificial intelligence, and so
- 18:19Speaker 3: what you were talking about in terms of information could
- 18:23Speaker 3: be I think explained by what's happening right now. There
- 18:27Speaker 3: are a lot of influencers in the world today who
- 18:30Speaker 3: are computer and influencers.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely. When we when we look back at the
- 18:35Speaker 2: you know, the last ten years, we especially with America
- 18:38Speaker 2: as being a superpower, we've tended to see America's influence
- 18:45Speaker 2: around the world, primarily through the government, through military or
- 18:49Speaker 2: even through well through economic policies, tariffs and other things
- 18:53Speaker 2: where we can get our own way because we're powerful.
- 18:55Speaker 2: It's like if you don't want to. And now we're
- 18:58Speaker 2: in the new Trump administration and he is he is
- 19:01Speaker 2: threatening the inequalities which he sees around the world in
- 19:06Speaker 2: that one of the things of the new World order
- 19:09Speaker 2: is free trade. And we saw free trade going back
- 19:11Speaker 2: in the last twenty years, where now in ancient times
- 19:14Speaker 2: or not even ancient, in previous times, it was normal
- 19:17Speaker 2: for a government to look out for its people and
- 19:19Speaker 2: its own economy by having tariffs as an example, Well,
- 19:23Speaker 2: you go to a where there's an inequality and trade.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Let's say with China as an example, we got rid
- 19:29Speaker 2: of that's why they call it free trade. It's like, okay,
- 19:31Speaker 2: we won't put any tariffs on you. Well, now that
- 19:34Speaker 2: you're hurting your own industry. So what they're doing now
- 19:40Speaker 2: this is kind of a rabbit trail, which I don't
- 19:41Speaker 2: want to get into. But the point being is that
- 19:44Speaker 2: we've seen that powerful influence and what Trump is trying
- 19:47Speaker 2: to do right now is to say, look, we're going
- 19:49Speaker 2: to influence this country by saying, hey, if you don't,
- 19:51Speaker 2: we're just going to put tariffs on it. So but
- 19:54Speaker 2: what's happening now, even though the government is still there.
- 19:57Speaker 2: For example, if we go back to you know, the
- 20:02Speaker 2: pandemic of twenty twenty, one of the most powerful individuals
- 20:08Speaker 2: on the planet that was giving advice to the World
- 20:11Speaker 2: Health Organization, that was giving advice to the American government CDC,
- 20:16Speaker 2: even the FDA to some degree, and all around the
- 20:19Speaker 2: world into Africa, was a singular figure by the name
- 20:22Speaker 2: of Bill Gates, one of the wealthiest people in the world.
- 20:25Speaker 2: What government position did he have? What's his medical degrees?
- 20:27Speaker 2: Do they have a medical dreat no medical dret He's
- 20:29Speaker 2: a computer scientist, right, like you know what you just described.
- 20:32Speaker 2: So here we have this is what when we wrote
- 20:35Speaker 2: these articles, we were living in the midst of this
- 20:38Speaker 2: where at the time one of the most powerful people
- 20:41Speaker 2: in the world was a non government person. He didn't
- 20:45Speaker 2: have a position, but yet he could go to Africa
- 20:48Speaker 2: and he could make requirements even to the World Health Organization,
- 20:52Speaker 2: which would then be extended to the rest of the world.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Well, let me throw this at you, a king, and
- 20:58Speaker 3: you use when you wrote an article on this subject,
- 21:01Speaker 3: you spent a while talking about the word technocrat, and
- 21:06Speaker 3: you and I both pulled that word up. And I
- 21:11Speaker 3: think it's a very important word for the world today,
- 21:14Speaker 3: because a technocrat can become dominant and he can control
- 21:20Speaker 3: everything of a single order around the whole world. And
- 21:25Speaker 3: in essence, the technical technocrat becomes a king. And I
- 21:31Speaker 3: think that that is a good starting place to describe
- 21:36Speaker 3: what the Bible is talking about when it refers to kings.
- 21:39Speaker 3: We might call them technocrats today, or we might find
- 21:42Speaker 3: another word. But it implies power. It implies someone who
- 21:48Speaker 3: controls a vast span of information that causes the movers
- 21:53Speaker 3: and shakers of the world to sit up and take
- 21:55Speaker 3: notice and when the technocrat says, do this, they do that.
- 22:00Speaker 2: So that's okay, it really yeah, oh absolutely, I mean
- 22:02Speaker 2: it is the very definition of what we're seeing in Again,
- 22:06Speaker 2: the Greek people can look it up for themselves. They
- 22:08Speaker 2: don't have to take my word for it. But the
- 22:10Speaker 2: b d Ag look it up again. It's a lexicon
- 22:13Speaker 2: that we used in seminary. It's what we use in
- 22:15Speaker 2: the Greek in our you know, taking Greek class. I
- 22:18Speaker 2: think this brings us back to another point, which let's
- 22:23Speaker 2: talk about Revelation thirteen for a moment. This is a
- 22:25Speaker 2: good segue because in Revelation thirteen we have the beast
- 22:29Speaker 2: out of the sea and the beast out of the earth,
- 22:31Speaker 2: which scholars will recognize Bible teachers that this is the
- 22:35Speaker 2: Antichrist and the false Prophet. Well, in Revelation thirteen, we
- 22:39Speaker 2: clearly have a worldwide system of dominance like a political system.
- 22:44Speaker 2: We also have a religious system because they're worshiping the dragon,
- 22:48Speaker 2: and the false prophet is getting people to worship the beast,
- 22:52Speaker 2: which the beast in the book Revelation often refers to
- 22:55Speaker 2: the system or the empire as well as the individual.
- 23:00Speaker 2: See that in several passes Revelation nineteen as an example,
- 23:02Speaker 2: the beast and false prophet, we're thrown into the lake
- 23:04Speaker 2: of fire. So that's not talking about a system, it's
- 23:07Speaker 2: talking about an individual of both of those. So, but
- 23:11Speaker 2: the other thing Gary in Revelation thirteen sixteen through eighteen,
- 23:13Speaker 2: there as it relates, he causes all both small and gray,
- 23:17Speaker 2: rich and poorer, free and bond to take a mark
- 23:19Speaker 2: so that they can't buy or sell. We've just introduced
- 23:22Speaker 2: an economic situation. So in Revelation of thirteen political, technological,
- 23:28Speaker 2: or economic, and religious. So in order for the Antichrist
- 23:35Speaker 2: to rule with such strong things, how would technology help
- 23:41Speaker 2: him in the political realm, in the economic realm, or
- 23:44Speaker 2: the technological realm, and in the religious realm? I mean
- 23:48Speaker 2: it seems like no, this would be right up his alley.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Well, so a technocrat really comes to life here, because
- 23:55Speaker 3: in Revelation, this one man who finally stands up and
- 24:00Speaker 3: takes charge is linked to a phrase, this really interesting phrase,
- 24:06Speaker 3: the number of his name. And here we have in
- 24:11Speaker 3: the Bible, in the Book of Revelation, a number and
- 24:14Speaker 3: a name linked together. Well, that's computer science. And so
- 24:19Speaker 3: whoever this guy is, he's going to be deep into
- 24:23Speaker 3: computer science of some kind because he's got the number
- 24:26Speaker 3: of everybody who lives on planet Earth, and something about
- 24:30Speaker 3: that number maybe gets inserted into your palm or tattooed,
- 24:36Speaker 3: who knows what. But it all sounds like information processing
- 24:40Speaker 3: to me, which is what we've been talking about. Therefore,
- 24:43Speaker 3: information processing and kingdom sort of come together in our era.
- 24:50Speaker 2: It's as if the Lord has allowed I would say
- 24:53Speaker 2: twenty twenty through twenty twenty four as a test case,
- 24:59Speaker 2: because if we look at that era of the not
- 25:03Speaker 2: just the United States, but the rest of the world
- 25:05Speaker 2: under the pandemic, as just one example, you have lots
- 25:09Speaker 2: of conversations about again, uh, medical procedures and other things.
- 25:13Speaker 2: I'm trying not to use the word. Everybody knows what
- 25:15Speaker 2: it is, all this new technology, the m RNA technology
- 25:19Speaker 2: and other things. But what did you have there? You
- 25:22Speaker 2: had censorship, any sort of of dissenting voice was silenced.
- 25:27Speaker 2: You had people being canceled again. You had other information
- 25:31Speaker 2: being extended into other parts of the world again, like
- 25:34Speaker 2: again through Bill Gates as an example, he's promoting this
- 25:38Speaker 2: new this new quote quote technology around the world. But
- 25:43Speaker 2: what you see is one of the reasons why the
- 25:48Speaker 2: world the world, whether again it was through Twitter, because
- 25:51Speaker 2: Twitter is now of course bought by Elon Musk, Facebook YouTube,
- 25:56Speaker 2: which is Google, Google Platform, and all of those censored
- 26:01Speaker 2: information that was not part of the enticing narrative. So
- 26:09Speaker 2: the government for the government did not could not control
- 26:13Speaker 2: and we see this now going on in Europe. The
- 26:15Speaker 2: United States government, the president, whatever administration could not directly
- 26:19Speaker 2: control the flow of information. So in order to have
- 26:22Speaker 2: a dictatorship, which we know the Antichrist will, whether it's
- 26:25Speaker 2: in the political realm again, religious or economic realm or religious,
- 26:29Speaker 2: in order in order to guide the narrative of information
- 26:33Speaker 2: in whatever field you have, you've got to control the conversation.
- 26:37Speaker 2: That's why our first amendment free speech. They knew that
- 26:40Speaker 2: back in the seventeen hundreds. But what did you see
- 26:44Speaker 2: Facebook censored? Twitter censored, we saw Google censoring. Well, that
- 26:52Speaker 2: just happens to be. Those are all led by super rich,
- 26:57Speaker 2: wealthy technocrats. All that was done by these non governmental figures. Now,
- 27:04Speaker 2: granted we're hearing now from Zuckerberg. I think he's lying,
- 27:08Speaker 2: but now he's playing the victim. Oh, the Biden administration
- 27:12Speaker 2: forced me to censor people. I would have never done it.
- 27:14Speaker 2: I'm all for free speech. I think he's just lying
- 27:16Speaker 2: through his teeth.
- 27:17Speaker 3: I think it's time that we've pulled out your sheet
- 27:20Speaker 3: of paper. Mondo prepared a list, and I think this
- 27:25Speaker 3: list has a lot of meaning when you view it,
- 27:29Speaker 3: because it's talking about power. In my opinion, it's talking
- 27:33Speaker 3: about technology, it's talking about influence, it's talking about intellect
- 27:39Speaker 3: and invention, but it's really talking about power. People who
- 27:45Speaker 3: have real, not to be doubted power. I'm not read
- 27:49Speaker 3: this list, and also the numbers that go with it,
- 27:52Speaker 3: which I think are staggering.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Well, this is a list from Forbes. This was the
- 27:58Speaker 2: Forbes Middle East. People can look it up, and I
- 28:00Speaker 2: just was looking at the top ten richest people in
- 28:03Speaker 2: the world as of January first. It's hard to get
- 28:05Speaker 2: an updated number, but as I prefaced this list, we'll
- 28:12Speaker 2: go back to the definition. The second entry for the
- 28:16Speaker 2: Greek lexicon for basilis one who possesses unusual or transcendent power. Okay,
- 28:23Speaker 2: now on this list are the ten richest people as
- 28:26Speaker 2: of January first. Not too long ago, Elon Musk he
- 28:30Speaker 2: jumped up to four hundred and twenty one billion. Jeff Bezos, Yeah,
- 28:35Speaker 2: this is just two years ago he was only had
- 28:37Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty.
- 28:38Speaker 3: You can hardly believe this number, but four hundred and
- 28:43Speaker 3: twenty one actuallyer.
- 28:44Speaker 4: Point two billion.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want to bottom of two hundred million.
- 28:47Speaker 4: Do we?
- 28:48Speaker 1: Who cares about the point too? Little things that would
- 28:51Speaker 1: change my life? It would, but you this list, let's
- 28:57Speaker 1: go on with it. So it tells us a lot.
- 28:59Speaker 2: It tells us a Elon musk More twenty one billion,
- 29:02Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos from Amazon two hundred and thirty three billion.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Larry Ellison two hundred nine billion. He's he is from
- 29:09Speaker 2: I believe he's from Oracle, another software company. Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook,
- 29:13Speaker 2: Meta two hundred and two billion. Bernard Arnold. He's from France.
- 29:17Speaker 2: He does he does all sorts of like home goods
- 29:21Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So he's the only European on
- 29:24Speaker 2: the here non American one hundred and sixty eight billion.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Larry Page one hundred and fifty six billion. Sergey Brinn
- 29:30Speaker 2: he's from Both of these guys are from Google one
- 29:32Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine billion. Warren Buffett he's into stocks
- 29:35Speaker 2: and other investments. One hundred and forty one billion. Steve Balmer,
- 29:40Speaker 2: he was used to partner with He's from Microsoft, another
- 29:44Speaker 2: software company, one hundred and twenty four billion. Jensen who Wang,
- 29:47Speaker 2: another tech industry guy, one hundred and seventeen billion. Bill
- 29:51Speaker 2: Gates actually dropped off the top ten, but he's still
- 29:55Speaker 2: up there, you know, one hundred billion. He's certainly in
- 29:56Speaker 2: the top twenty. So the question that we have is
- 29:59Speaker 2: to do you these ten people with their like you
- 30:03Speaker 2: mentioned in the original arcle incalculable wealth from my brain?
- 30:08Speaker 2: Do they are they? Just using the definition, do they
- 30:11Speaker 2: possess unusual or transcendent power or influence? Absolutely, they do,
- 30:18Speaker 2: they do.
- 30:20Speaker 4: I was standing in my yard.
- 30:23Speaker 3: In the middle of summer, about a year and a
- 30:25Speaker 3: half ago, I think it was, and it was a beautiful, clear,
- 30:30Speaker 3: dark evening, and I looked up and I saw a
- 30:34Speaker 3: string of little lights and they were going across the sky.
- 30:40Speaker 3: It's a clear, dark sky, And I remembered having read
- 30:47Speaker 3: about some of a project that Elon Musk was doing. Now,
- 30:52Speaker 3: when you can stand out in your front yard and
- 30:54Speaker 3: see a string of about twenty satellites put up there
- 30:59Speaker 3: by the world's richest man, four hundred and twenty one
- 31:02Speaker 3: point two billion dollars, I mean, which is unthinkable but
- 31:08Speaker 3: the dollars are just what enabled him to do what
- 31:12Speaker 3: he does. He sends up rockets, he sends up satellites,
- 31:15Speaker 3: he builds satellite network. He is the king of information.
- 31:20Speaker 3: And all of this is described in the Bible as
- 31:24Speaker 3: being a latter day series of developments. Powerful kings, ten kings,
- 31:31Speaker 3: people who are more than influencers, they are controllers of
- 31:35Speaker 3: the population.
- 31:36Speaker 2: So let's think about this. What do we know. We
- 31:40Speaker 2: know that, for example, Klaus Schwab the World Economic form,
- 31:45Speaker 2: he's his book The Great Reset or the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
- 31:49Speaker 2: He definitely is a globalist, no doubt, one hundred percent.
- 31:52Speaker 2: His globalist agenda very clearly. If you look at his
- 31:55Speaker 2: appendix of his book The Fourth Industrial Revolution, he describes
- 32:01Speaker 2: over twenty He says this, we will accomplish our global agenda,
- 32:08Speaker 2: but we will only accomplish it through technologies. And he
- 32:12Speaker 2: goes on to list over twenty various technologies of how
- 32:15Speaker 2: they seek to use all of them in order to
- 32:17Speaker 2: implement their new world order that they desire. So they
- 32:20Speaker 2: recognize that the new world order is only going to
- 32:23Speaker 2: happen through technology, is not going to happen through this
- 32:25Speaker 2: old system. Well, they also realize that they can't necessarily
- 32:30Speaker 2: do it through governmental connections because why well, as we've listed,
- 32:36Speaker 2: the United States government didn't create Facebook, it didn't create SpaceX,
- 32:40Speaker 2: it didn't create starlink, right, you know, it didn't create
- 32:45Speaker 2: these softwares.
- 32:46Speaker 4: And by the way, it was Starlink that I was.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Watching, Yes it was. And what's fascinating is so the
- 32:51Speaker 2: government didn't create these things. And so in order, this
- 32:54Speaker 2: is what we're saying, in order they Klaus Schwab recognize,
- 33:00Speaker 2: in order for their agenda, their narrative, to be accomplished,
- 33:05Speaker 2: it requires a technology, which means they need this stuff,
- 33:09Speaker 2: They need these guys behind them. What the Bible tells
- 33:12Speaker 2: us quote I mean, this is the quote. These ten
- 33:16Speaker 2: Kings have one purpose, and they give their power and
- 33:20Speaker 2: authority to the Beast in order to rule with him
- 33:25Speaker 2: for one hour. So nuts, I don't think that's sixty
- 33:28Speaker 2: minutes for a short period of time. What we know
- 33:31Speaker 2: is that the Antichrist, when he comes to full dictatorial
- 33:35Speaker 2: power in the middle of the tribulation period and he
- 33:38Speaker 2: institutes the mark of the Beast, he is unable to
- 33:42Speaker 2: accomplish this without the help of ten the ten Kings.
- 33:47Speaker 2: The ten Kings give them all of their abilities. The
- 33:51Speaker 2: ten Kings give this one man their abilities in order
- 33:53Speaker 2: to rule. So imagine the day, hey, mister Antichrist, he
- 33:58Speaker 2: comes to them and says, hey, I need I need
- 34:00Speaker 2: your starlink, I need your surveillance, I need your technology,
- 34:03Speaker 2: I need your code, your software, I need your artificial
- 34:05Speaker 2: intelligence in order to accomplish what I'm doing here. And
- 34:09Speaker 2: they go, well, let's make a deal. So we'll give
- 34:11Speaker 2: you all of our abilities, our power, our influence, our wealth,
- 34:15Speaker 2: let us rule with you. That's the deal that Revelation
- 34:17Speaker 2: seventeen thirteen says. So when you have a leader of
- 34:22Speaker 2: North American Union, who's who? Again, it doesn't really work
- 34:25Speaker 2: as well because so what you're the leader of the
- 34:29Speaker 2: African Union, Well, how does that help you? There's no
- 34:32Speaker 2: technology there to do it. But let's go back for
- 34:34Speaker 2: a minute, Gary, because this is important. What for example,
- 34:38Speaker 2: just one Elon Musk is the quintessential technocrat. Not only
- 34:43Speaker 2: is he involved, he bought Twitter, which is now X.
- 34:46Speaker 2: He has said publicly that he's going to make it
- 34:48Speaker 2: a buying exchange, which he has familiar with because he
- 34:52Speaker 2: used to be part of PayPal. So imagine Twitter or
- 34:57Speaker 2: X as the largest exchange system in the world, world
- 35:00Speaker 2: which we already see this happening in China and other places.
- 35:03Speaker 2: He also has Starlink, he has space X, but the
- 35:06Speaker 2: Starlink he has currently seven thousand satellites up. He has
- 35:10Speaker 2: approval for twelve thousand. Trust me, Gary, I see him
- 35:12Speaker 2: in my astrophotography pictures. Okay, he's not my friend. Okay,
- 35:16Speaker 2: he's already making his revenues gonna hit eleven billion dollars
- 35:20Speaker 2: this year just from the Starlink's he's in pre approval
- 35:24Speaker 2: for thirty five thousand. That's what he really wants is
- 35:26Speaker 2: thirty five thousand of these satellites worldwide, so that every
- 35:30Speaker 2: square inch of the Earth is covered with a solid coverage.
- 35:37Speaker 2: The other thing that he's doing is not only does
- 35:39Speaker 2: he have inner Internet, but he's taking this and he's
- 35:42Speaker 2: creating cell phone service where you don't have these big,
- 35:45Speaker 2: bulky satellite phones. They're gonna be just like we have
- 35:48Speaker 2: in our hands, and through those we know you can track,
- 35:52Speaker 2: you can communicate. The entire Earth is going to be
- 35:56Speaker 2: covered with this surveillance ability. Now wouldn't Antichrist love that?
- 36:02Speaker 4: Oh?
- 36:02Speaker 3: Yes, he would love that. And you know, I was
- 36:04Speaker 3: looking at my Bible here, and just kind of as
- 36:09Speaker 3: you're talking, I was thumbing through Revelation sixteen and seventeen
- 36:13Speaker 3: and looking over to eighteen. And what Revelation talks about
- 36:17Speaker 3: is the whole world being under a tightening control, finally
- 36:24Speaker 3: totally controlled by the beast, and it's all predicated upon
- 36:33Speaker 3: the ability to handle mass numbers. That is to say,
- 36:38Speaker 3: to control the entire world, you've got to control a
- 36:41Speaker 3: lot of systems and to put it under one man's control,
- 36:45Speaker 3: which the Antichrist, you know, is one man and.
- 36:48Speaker 2: His ten generals, basically with his ten generals exactly.
- 36:53Speaker 3: And so what we're talking about today as we sit
- 36:56Speaker 3: here and record this, we're talking about the pre cursors
- 37:01Speaker 3: of that system that we've all read about for years.
- 37:07Speaker 2: It's interesting that, you know, again, you and I have
- 37:09Speaker 2: been talking about this for four years now, and in
- 37:13Speaker 2: the last inauguration I took I do not think trumps
- 37:17Speaker 2: the Antichrist, So please don't send me emails about this.
- 37:20Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's our savior either. Okay, we do
- 37:23Speaker 2: not name the We don't name the Antichrist because he's
- 37:25Speaker 2: going to be revealed after the rapture. According to Second
- 37:27Speaker 2: Stone chapter two. Okay, it's the first event of the
- 37:30Speaker 2: Day of the Lord is the apostasy and the revealing
- 37:33Speaker 2: of the Antichrist. Okay, But what we saw though was
- 37:38Speaker 2: interestingly Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, who is the other one, oh,
- 37:46Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos, And there was a couple others that were
- 37:50Speaker 2: sitting there at the inauguration. And of course now we
- 37:55Speaker 2: know that that Elon Musk truly influenced this election by
- 38:01Speaker 2: opening up again x for freedom of exchange. He himself
- 38:06Speaker 2: did a lot of interviews about certain policy things, and
- 38:09Speaker 2: so we're before in the last election again Trump's Trump's
- 38:12Speaker 2: Twitter got shut down, so there were censorships there, but
- 38:17Speaker 2: never so what we see here is Elon Musk, no doubt,
- 38:20Speaker 2: influenced the free exchange of information to the most part. Again,
- 38:24Speaker 2: he's not a savior by any means either, Okay, nor
- 38:27Speaker 2: do I think he's a Christian. But his influence was there.
- 38:31Speaker 2: And so now these other guys again like Zuckerberg, he's
- 38:35Speaker 2: playing the victim. Now, they were there because they realized, hmmm,
- 38:39Speaker 2: we can influence and we can actually they if they
- 38:43Speaker 2: make friends with Trump, Trump won't necessarily come against them.
- 38:46Speaker 2: So they're all self serving. Let's just be on These
- 38:48Speaker 2: guys are self serving, and naturally, as a business owner,
- 38:50Speaker 2: you would be you have.
- 38:51Speaker 3: That inner thrust had then there are hundreds of them
- 38:57Speaker 3: and their idea is to consolidate as much money and
- 39:01Speaker 3: power as possible. And there are a whole string of
- 39:04Speaker 3: them down through history, but they all point to a
- 39:08Speaker 3: global system that the Bible is very very blatant in
- 39:13Speaker 3: its description of. And that's what we're seeing right now.
- 39:17Speaker 3: And I think the reason we're talking about this subject
- 39:21Speaker 3: is because it adds clarity to our view of prophecy,
- 39:26Speaker 3: pre mill pre trip. All of this fits together because
- 39:30Speaker 3: the Bible is very very clear, from the Old Testament
- 39:33Speaker 3: profits all the way to the New Testament. It's very
- 39:36Speaker 3: clear that there will be a group of very powerful
- 39:41Speaker 3: influencers in the latter days. And I believe we're in
- 39:45Speaker 3: the latter days, and out of that group will come
- 39:49Speaker 3: a system and finally a man. And that's all we're
- 39:54Speaker 3: talking about here. And why are we interested in this?
- 39:58Speaker 3: I'll tell you why I am, because if you think
- 40:01Speaker 3: things are getting really close, you're going to look up
- 40:04Speaker 3: and say, Lord, help you to understand this. I just
- 40:08Speaker 3: I'm trying, but I just can't quite put it all together.
- 40:12Speaker 3: And the Lord says, We'll just keep reading your Bible.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's what we're doing, is we're praying through it.
- 40:20Speaker 2: We're looking I think about people can go back in
- 40:25Speaker 2: the first part of twenty twenty again when right before,
- 40:28Speaker 2: as the pandemic was beginning to spread. For example, you
- 40:33Speaker 2: look at Elon Musk I think if you go back,
- 40:36Speaker 2: his net worth was about thirty billion, and just in
- 40:40Speaker 2: five short years he's up ten times, ten x, eleven x,
- 40:45Speaker 2: twelve x what he's done here twenty billion. So what
- 40:50Speaker 2: will happen in five years? Will he be worth a trillion?
- 40:53Speaker 2: And these other guys, all of these guys, if you
- 40:55Speaker 2: look in a couple of years of after that, all
- 40:58Speaker 2: of these guys added like even trillion dollars, certainly Bezos
- 41:02Speaker 2: and others. And so what we're saying is even what
- 41:05Speaker 2: we see now the unusual influence and power that these
- 41:09Speaker 2: figures have over governments in the future. And I believe
- 41:14Speaker 2: they're building with all of their technology. Let me bring
- 41:17Speaker 2: a couple of those up, because again in the article,
- 41:20Speaker 2: people can find it on our website, perhaps squatches dot
- 41:22Speaker 2: com if they just go to our oracles. They can
- 41:24Speaker 2: scroll down and see all of the articles that you
- 41:26Speaker 2: wrote that I wrote on this, and we get into
- 41:27Speaker 2: a little bit more detail. But you think about what's
- 41:30Speaker 2: the future. No doubt, starlink is going to be a
- 41:32Speaker 2: future for surveillance with all of the ability to have
- 41:35Speaker 2: worldwide Internet and phone systems and everything else. If you
- 41:39Speaker 2: look at quantum computing, who's in charge that? Well, Besos
- 41:42Speaker 2: doing that, Zuckerberg's doing that, Google's doing that. What about
- 41:45Speaker 2: artificial intelligence? The same figures, all of those guys Elon Musk,
- 41:49Speaker 2: They've all been involved in all of these technologies which
- 41:51Speaker 2: are only going to increase. Steve Balmer of Microsoft, So
- 41:56Speaker 2: as we go on, their influence is going to to
- 42:00Speaker 2: be double triple around the world. And so there's going
- 42:03Speaker 2: to come a day when the system that they're building,
- 42:08Speaker 2: the system they're building, the technological b system, and when
- 42:13Speaker 2: we think about even some of the other crypto and
- 42:17Speaker 2: other things, these guys are all involved in that. So
- 42:19Speaker 2: there's going to come a day when the figure, this
- 42:21Speaker 2: Antichrist figure is going to come to these guys. I
- 42:24Speaker 2: think and say, let's make a deal.
- 42:26Speaker 3: You're pretty clear, I mean, you've got you've got the
- 42:29Speaker 3: ten richest on your list, and the Bible says ten
- 42:35Speaker 3: uses the number ten. We don't know that the number
- 42:37Speaker 3: that the fat group is complete. There could be a
- 42:40Speaker 3: shifting of we don't know yet, we don't know yet.
- 42:43Speaker 3: These are just some potentials right here, potentials, And I
- 42:46Speaker 3: think it's very important to stress that because what we're
- 42:49Speaker 3: talking about is not individuals per se.
- 42:52Speaker 4: We're talking about a growing concept.
- 42:55Speaker 3: System, a concept, yes, and we need to be I
- 42:59Speaker 3: think away of what's going on in order to be
- 43:04Speaker 3: as wise as possible when we read scripture.
- 43:10Speaker 2: We're looking at these these potentials here as a concept.
- 43:13Speaker 2: Because let me give an example, Gary, last year in July,
- 43:19Speaker 2: you know, we had been talking about this for several years.
- 43:21Speaker 2: While I was in Singapore and I was at a
- 43:23Speaker 2: prophecy conference there and I was I had talked about
- 43:28Speaker 2: the ten Kings, and right before I arrived there it
- 43:34Speaker 2: was in July, I had talked about I had given
- 43:37Speaker 2: the presentation a few weeks earlier, and one of the
- 43:40Speaker 2: things I have in my presentation I asked a question,
- 43:42Speaker 2: I said, I said, hypothetically, I get the greatest superpower
- 43:47Speaker 2: in the history of the world, is the United States
- 43:49Speaker 2: of America. No doubt. I don't think anybody would deny that. Sure,
- 43:52Speaker 2: I said, but right now, So this was like in
- 43:56Speaker 2: May of twenty four I said, imagine there was an
- 44:01Speaker 2: explosion on the International Space Station and they needed to
- 44:06Speaker 2: get a rescue. I said, the greatest superpower in the
- 44:09Speaker 2: history of the world could not solve the problem because
- 44:13Speaker 2: NASA does not have any At the time, they did
- 44:16Speaker 2: not have any rockets. So what would they do. They're
- 44:19Speaker 2: not going to say, Houston, we have a problem. They're
- 44:22Speaker 2: gonna say, Elon, we have a problem. And so think
- 44:26Speaker 2: about this. The greatest super brown in the history of
- 44:27Speaker 2: the world would call a private individual and say, hey, Elon,
- 44:32Speaker 2: we need your help. And he might say, well, you know,
- 44:36Speaker 2: I've been waiting for approval for my other twenty thousand
- 44:40Speaker 2: satellites from the FCC. You guys haven't givenage to me. Yeah,
- 44:43Speaker 2: I can make a deal. But so anyway, so I
- 44:44Speaker 2: put that out as a scenario. Will you know what happened? Gary?
- 44:47Speaker 2: So here I am, I arrive in as I'm arriving
- 44:50Speaker 2: in Singapore, and I speak like two or three days later,
- 44:54Speaker 2: this exact thing happened. There was a problem on the
- 44:58Speaker 2: Space station. United States couldn't do it because of the
- 45:02Speaker 2: sanctions with Russia. Russia couldn't help either as a government,
- 45:06Speaker 2: So they ended up reaching out to Elon Musk and
- 45:08Speaker 2: Elon says, yeah, I'll send a Dragon X capsule up
- 45:10Speaker 2: to rescue them. So the exact scenario of what of
- 45:15Speaker 2: what this concept showed that the.
- 45:20Speaker 4: Help that was going up there Dragon.
- 45:23Speaker 2: I just coincidence. Maybe maybe not. So what we're saying
- 45:28Speaker 2: is that this conceptual idea, let's add five years to
- 45:33Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't know when the Lord's going
- 45:34Speaker 2: to come back, but what we do know is that
- 45:37Speaker 2: the Bible says there's going to be these ten figures
- 45:40Speaker 2: who have unusual and transcendent power. Power is wealth, technology,
- 45:45Speaker 2: all the things that come along with it. Who give it?
- 45:47Speaker 2: Who give that over to a singular antichrist figure who is,
- 45:53Speaker 2: according to what this is, one of their associates, and
- 45:56Speaker 2: they get a deal to rule him for a short
- 45:59Speaker 2: period of time, and they give them all of their influence.
- 46:01Speaker 2: That to me is how he's going to be able
- 46:04Speaker 2: to accomplish his beast system, because he'll be able to
- 46:07Speaker 2: have all the censorship, he'll be able to have all
- 46:09Speaker 2: the surveillance, he'll have all the artificial intelligence and the
- 46:12Speaker 2: quantum computing, he'll have all the economics to do everything
- 46:15Speaker 2: he's going to do.
- 46:16Speaker 3: And use that term going out there, quantum computing. There's
- 46:21Speaker 3: a little scary ring to that once you look at
- 46:23Speaker 3: what it is, how it's proceeding, how much power it's
- 46:27Speaker 3: going to require, and the global intent of quantum computing
- 46:33Speaker 3: is biblical as far as I'm concerned. You go to
- 46:35Speaker 3: the Book of Revelation and you're talking about super control
- 46:39Speaker 3: of the whole world and to data.
- 46:42Speaker 2: When you look at artificial intelligence, absolutely in order to
- 46:45Speaker 2: crunch the numbers of data. That's often the problems we have.
- 46:48Speaker 2: We're getting more data because more cameras are being installed
- 46:50Speaker 2: and everything else in data. Data, data, that's the fuel
- 46:54Speaker 2: of artificial intelligence. But the key thing is being able
- 46:59Speaker 2: to crunch that data in real time, and so far
- 47:04Speaker 2: they can do it a little bit, even the most
- 47:05Speaker 2: biggest super computers. But they've had some early just recently,
- 47:10Speaker 2: some early successes with quantum computing. They're definitely not there yet,
- 47:14Speaker 2: but some of the things that they've done in a
- 47:16Speaker 2: very narrow window what would take a normal supercomputer, you know,
- 47:21Speaker 2: millions of years. They did in five minutes. So all again,
- 47:25Speaker 2: let's add a few years not only to all of
- 47:27Speaker 2: these guys and more, but wealth, increased discoveries, advancements of
- 47:32Speaker 2: all the technology. When we think about artificial intelligence versus
- 47:35Speaker 2: artificial general intelligence, with Sera's the difference, people could look
- 47:38Speaker 2: it up. They're not quite there yet, but they will
- 47:41Speaker 2: be able to get and hand over to him everything
- 47:45Speaker 2: that he would need.
- 47:47Speaker 3: As we reach the end of our time. I'm listening
- 47:49Speaker 3: to you and I'm thinking I'm going to ask you
- 47:51Speaker 3: a question, Mondo. People are listening to this conversation is saying,
- 47:56Speaker 3: this is huge. What can I do? I'm one person?
- 48:01Speaker 3: What can we do as Christians?
- 48:04Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, Gary, When I read this,
- 48:07Speaker 2: it doesn't bring fear into my heart. It brings excitement
- 48:11Speaker 2: into my heart. In that what we see scripture saying
- 48:15Speaker 2: we're now beginning to see again, and we put this
- 48:19Speaker 2: out as a very likely possibility. We're not dogmatic. You know,
- 48:22Speaker 2: we could be wrong, but nevertheless it fits in a
- 48:24Speaker 2: lot of ways. But at the end of the day,
- 48:27Speaker 2: what we want is we want people first and foremost
- 48:30Speaker 2: to put their faith and trust in Jesus. I mean again,
- 48:32Speaker 2: I wasn't raised a Christian, So when I became a
- 48:34Speaker 2: Christian at eighteen, I begin to see prophecy, and to
- 48:37Speaker 2: see prophecy fulfilled is like, Okay, Lord, I know the
- 48:40Speaker 2: Bible is true. I know the Gospel's true. Salvation's found
- 48:43Speaker 2: only through Jesus Christ alone, and I need to make
- 48:45Speaker 2: sure my heart's right and that. Secondly, my goal is
- 48:49Speaker 2: to watch Mark thirteen thirty seven, and also to occupy
- 48:53Speaker 2: to be busy. I mean, we're busy doing the ministry
- 48:56Speaker 2: of the Lord, whether that's here, whether it's at the
- 48:58Speaker 2: local church, whether it's helping people or in Pakistan, you
- 49:01Speaker 2: know whatever. But until the Lord comes, what God would
- 49:05Speaker 2: have each of us do is to stay focused on
- 49:07Speaker 2: His kingdom. Seek first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and
- 49:11Speaker 2: God will take care of the rest. That's why we're here.
- 49:13Speaker 2: We're here ultimately for the Gospel to point people to salvation.
- 49:16Speaker 2: This stuff is fun. It helps to confirm in my
- 49:19Speaker 2: heart that scripture's true and all the rest of the
- 49:21Speaker 2: scripture's true. And then the more I learned about the Bible,
- 49:24Speaker 2: the more that God wants me to grow in holiness
- 49:26Speaker 2: and righteousness.
- 49:28Speaker 4: And we have the blessed hope.
- 49:30Speaker 2: Yes we did.
- 49:30Speaker 3: You know we're called prophecy watchers because indeed we are watching.
- 49:35Speaker 3: And what are we watching for? Well, one of the
- 49:37Speaker 3: things I'm watching for is the idea. It's very dear
- 49:42Speaker 3: to my heart that one day the heavens will open
- 49:46Speaker 3: and someone will say to me, come up here, and
- 49:49Speaker 3: I will go up. And that's what it's all about,
- 49:52Speaker 3: the blessed Hope being ready.
- 49:54Speaker 2: So the trumpet will sound and we will be ready
- 49:58Speaker 2: to roll. In the meantime, what do we do stay
- 50:00Speaker 2: focused on the kingdom and so well, thank you Gary,
- 50:03Speaker 2: this has been a great conversation. I hope you've enjoyed
- 50:05Speaker 2: it as always consider joining us in Orlando March twenty
- 50:10Speaker 2: seventh through thirty prophitso watchers dot com check it out,
- 50:14Speaker 2: and that we are just we're going to continue watching
- 50:17Speaker 2: the development of all of these technologies, these people, these
- 50:21Speaker 2: potential potential group that could be part of the ten Kings,
- 50:26Speaker 2: and even here, I don't think it's just limited to America.
- 50:30Speaker 2: There's other wealthy people that will be involved in giving
- 50:34Speaker 2: their capabilities over to the Antichrist on that day. So
- 50:39Speaker 2: thanks for listening, everyone, and we will catch you next time.