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Making Up For Lost Time With JOHNNY 3 YEARS From HOLLYWOOD UNDEAD · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Johnny three tiers. I am from Hollywood. I'm dead on
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  Speaker 1: tour with Falling Reverse and Black Pill Brides all over
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  Speaker 1: the great Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic brother. How you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm great, Buddy chilling Man, getting getting ready to head
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  Speaker 1: over there, thirty five hour flight, very excitedcking hell?
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  Speaker 2: Can you sleep on pine?
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 3: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: Are you a movie? Watch?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: I just lose my mind for like the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much. I can't concentrate on anything except how fucking
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  Speaker 1: horrible it is, just slowly torturing myself. No, I I guess, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I watch a movie. I don't know. I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: big movie guy. I try and sleep as much as
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  Speaker 1: I can, you know, that's the that's the key. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, just try and kill as much time as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Is here You're miserable no matter what. In my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: See, I actually remember, if you want to piss you
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  Speaker 3: on the band myself, might I remember a flight I
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  Speaker 3: got for me to England when when you're watching a
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  Speaker 3: movie on there for some reason, if you stop the movie,
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  Speaker 3: you have to go back to the start again.
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  Speaker 2: You can't go back to where it was.
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  Speaker 3: So I was sitting with him mate, and just as
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  Speaker 3: he'd get to the last fifteen minutes of maybe every.
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  Speaker 1: Time on Rachel I Ring, well that'll kill time.
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  Speaker 2: For him, it'll make your time for the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you just get tanked enough, it's usually okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I used to do. But the problem is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with jet lag and the dehydration, if you
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  Speaker 1: got to play the next stand stuff, you're just ruined.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I won't drink on a play like
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  Speaker 1: that if you get your screwed, So you have to
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have to behave yourself to some degree.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just yeah, I mean, you're just screwed. You
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  Speaker 1: just have to accept it and be kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a stoic about it and just go all right, it
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  Speaker 1: is what it is. That's all you can do.
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  Speaker 2: Cool. So as you mentioned it to bro Hollywood, I'm dead.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be in a story with Falling in Reverse and
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  Speaker 3: black Mail Brides for a run of shows starting in
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  Speaker 3: Perth on March eleventh. Then you Adelaide Melbourne, Sydney, finished
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  Speaker 3: up in Brisbane on Massa at eight eighth.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a hell of a fucking lineup, right, hell
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  Speaker 2: of a lineup?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, dude, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Have have you played much with Lotter of those two
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  Speaker 2: minutes before?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, dude. We've done five or six tours with
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  Speaker 1: Falling and we've done we didn't a tour with Avenge
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  Speaker 1: in with Blackveil shit ten twenty years ago, fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's been a long time. And then
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  Speaker 1: we're always on the same festivals. I've we've known, we
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  Speaker 1: all run in the same circles, so you know, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of get to know each other over time and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a very ancestral world.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if you've said it though, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the actual tool pister?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fucking pearl.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever came up with it, dizy genius he's got there's
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  Speaker 3: a koala bear on steroids.
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  Speaker 2: There's a kangaroo on steroids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking whoever came up with that deserves something bright
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  Speaker 3: like that's a fucking great post.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ronnie, he's a genius with the marketing.
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  Speaker 2: He's well, I'm not cut. We're called the last time
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood on dead. We're at her in Australia, right, but
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  Speaker 2: what sexually changed for debate? And since she visited us.
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  Speaker 1: Last dude, I already know it. It's been ten years
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  Speaker 1: since we've been there, in fifteen, twenty eleven. It was
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  Speaker 1: the last time we actually did a tour in Australia,
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  Speaker 1: so fourteen years, and then we did that a festival
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  Speaker 1: there in twenty fifteen. That's how long it's been. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot has changed, well not nothing's changed, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot has changed. I guess you know. We're still going.
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  Speaker 1: We're just a few more albums in deep. We're ten
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  Speaker 1: years older, sadly closer to the grave, bro, but still going,
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  Speaker 1: still going strong, and very much looking forward to coming back.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully it's not so long in between this trip
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  Speaker 1: and the next one.
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  Speaker 3: Forty years is a long time, bright like, well, if
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  Speaker 3: you neglected this so long, did someone to pitch you
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  Speaker 3: off flast time?
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  Speaker 2: HEREA? No?
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  Speaker 1: Is that fucking flight, dude? I told you good if
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  Speaker 1: they if they can teleport us, I'll come every every
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  Speaker 1: other other week. No, I don't know. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: funny because I was talking to our manage. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Sometimes the opportunities are there and things don't
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  Speaker 1: work out. It's always tough, you know, with's touring because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll get in an offer, but
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  Speaker 1: we tours are usually booked six months to a year out,
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  Speaker 1: and so every time we've gotten an offer, we either
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  Speaker 1: had a tour book or we were recording, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just never clicked at the right time. So this was
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  Speaker 1: the first time we've actually gotten an offer that made
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  Speaker 1: sense and we could do it. So we jumped on
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  Speaker 1: it and we were happy to do it. We actually
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  Speaker 1: just did this. I don't know if we have a
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  Speaker 1: thing called ship rock out here where you play on
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  Speaker 1: a cruise ship, and Parkway headlined it with us, and
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  Speaker 1: they are the nicest dudes in the world. So it
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  Speaker 1: made us even more excited to head out there because
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  Speaker 1: those guys were really cool dudes and we always love
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  Speaker 1: playing with those guys, so we were really excited to
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  Speaker 1: head out there. Those guys are so nice and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: as is everybody. Very nice people over there.
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  Speaker 2: You might have been the good ones. Mite this some
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  Speaker 2: fucking asshole, I'll tell you all right.
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  Speaker 1: Well there's assholes everywhere, dude. You can't you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't hide from all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Ahoult that So for the benefit of those whose memory
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  Speaker 3: might not last forty eight years or have forgotten.
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  Speaker 2: What what can fans expect from Holliwood on Dead Live.
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  Speaker 1: We like to keep it fun. I mean what we
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  Speaker 1: really the whole idea. What we we like to a
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  Speaker 1: keep it up deep? We don't. We don't. We don't
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  Speaker 1: mess around, you know. We usually just try from point
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  Speaker 1: foward to the floor, keep it moving. No, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We have ballads, but we don't play them live. We
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  Speaker 1: were not one of those bands. We just try. We
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  Speaker 1: want people to walk away and say that was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fucking fun. That's really what our job is,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, entertainment. And you know, we write ballad
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  Speaker 1: songs and songs like that, but those are meant for
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  Speaker 1: when you're driving on the beach and you know, or
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to I don't know, bang your girlfriend or something.
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  Speaker 1: Those are great, they're great songs. That's what I like
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  Speaker 1: to let you. But live, we just try and keep
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  Speaker 1: the energy really really high and make sure people have fun.
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  Speaker 1: You know. That's what That's what live music is for me.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of what we try to bring to
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  Speaker 1: the table.
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  Speaker 3: Names ure now just say someone inexplicably is only coming
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  Speaker 3: for Falling Reversal, blackfil Brides and doesn't know fuck all
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  Speaker 3: about Hollywood Undead give them three songs, so listening to
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  Speaker 3: be able to get to know the band a bit
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  Speaker 3: better before they come along.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Undead is probably the staple. That's the title song
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  Speaker 1: off our first record that we all you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we've ever played a set without playing that.
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  Speaker 1: Bullet is an acoustic track that we do live off
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  Speaker 1: our second record that I would definitely listen to, and
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  Speaker 1: then I would listen to. Our newest song is called
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Forever that is off our most recent release in
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  Speaker 1: since it's our newest song, you should listen to that.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've also got your own headline shows in Melbourne
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  Speaker 3: on March of fifteenth, Brisbane on March nineteenth and Sydney
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  Speaker 3: on March of twentieth.
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  Speaker 2: And I know.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone always says that there's not much difference, but gotta
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  Speaker 3: be a bit more special playing your own headline shows
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  Speaker 3: where you're ready yet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean with the other bands, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are big arenas and stuff, and those are fun
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  Speaker 1: for their own reasons. But I've always been partial to
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you play to your audience and your
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  Speaker 1: audience alone. It's it's different. It's much more intimate. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: there is there for you and they know you, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a different experience, and we
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  Speaker 1: haven't The reason we added them is because we haven't
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  Speaker 1: been there in so long. It seemed wrong to go
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  Speaker 1: there and just do support us only support shows. So
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  Speaker 1: we want to at least have the opportunity to do
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  Speaker 1: a few regular headline shows just Hollywood and did so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the vibe is always a bit different, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: then club shows like that, more intimate, those have always been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, close to my heart. I mean there's been
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  Speaker 1: you know, like bands like You Too and stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: Metallica will still do like club shows once in a
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  Speaker 1: while because they missed that feeling so much, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Because it really is that it's it's
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  Speaker 1: that a that's how you start out, that's what you
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  Speaker 1: always start out doing, and there's no feeling like you know,
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  Speaker 1: those guys play to what eighty thousand people stadiums, but
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  Speaker 1: you can't mimic two feet away from just you can
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  Speaker 1: see the sweat beads on someone's forehead. It's a different vibe.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Would be completely man and just say like with settlest
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  Speaker 3: like when you're support someone like fall into reverse, like
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  Speaker 3: do you tell you set lists to suit the mass
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  Speaker 3: appeal of like what you think their audience might like
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  Speaker 3: of yours? Or do you do you go out there
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  Speaker 3: and play ones that you want them to remember you for?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, we just do what we do, like whatever
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  Speaker 1: we want. We've always kind of marched to the beas
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  Speaker 1: of our own druma. I've always felt that if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you're in a band and you you are there
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  Speaker 1: to present something, you should always try and get people
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  Speaker 1: to fit your mold, not theirs, because you know, people
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they like until you show them. They're
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  Speaker 1: not You're not you know what I mean, You're they
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  Speaker 1: want to be shown something new, something they're not familiar with,
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  Speaker 1: So why would you go give them something they're familiar
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  Speaker 1: with or something they're used to, give them something to
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  Speaker 1: hit them over there and if they don't like it,
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  Speaker 1: so what if they do? Cool, they got their you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to give them something they're not used to,
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  Speaker 1: something new to them. I don't want them to Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's critique it. So it's as close to what they're
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  Speaker 1: used to as possible. It's like no, so we do
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  Speaker 1: whatever we want to do and if people don't like it,
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  Speaker 1: that's okay. But you're going to at least see something
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  Speaker 1: that you haven't seen before, which is the whole point.
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  Speaker 3: I think Dame Straight Broa got back in John like
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  Speaker 3: Hollywood on Dad formed in La back in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and five. Man, so most of musical climate like that
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  Speaker 3: gave birth to the band back then.
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  Speaker 2: And where did you fit into the scene initially?
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  Speaker 1: Well, dude, we were We had been in bands together
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  Speaker 1: since we were like little kids, and you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of one would start, one would break up, and we
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  Speaker 1: would all we'd all we honestly, we went to preschool together,
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  Speaker 1: most of us. Yeah, our parents knew each other. We'd
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  Speaker 1: drive each other to school and shit like that. So
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  Speaker 1: I know, I've known some of these guys longer than
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  Speaker 1: my memory can track. So we'd always been doing music
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  Speaker 1: together ever since we started doing music, and we ran
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  Speaker 1: around Hollywood together, you know, and we would play the
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  Speaker 1: Whiskey and the True Door and the Rocks and all
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  Speaker 1: the clubs there when we were in local bands in Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: and Dead was honestly It's funny because we had enough
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  Speaker 1: bands we had finally kind of just said fuck this,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, it was a bit, you know, being
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  Speaker 1: in a band suck. It's you know, no one cared,
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  Speaker 1: and you play a show to twenty people. There's only
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  Speaker 1: so many times you can fucking ask your friends and
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  Speaker 1: your parents to go or you know. And so we'd
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  Speaker 1: kind of not given up that. We were just like whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So we started Hollywood and Needs strictly for ourselves, just
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  Speaker 1: to like make what we wanted to make. And oddly enough,
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  Speaker 1: right when we had kind of given up any expectations,
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  Speaker 1: we made our first Hollywood and Dead song and started
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  Speaker 1: putting out music, and all of a sudden, people were like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: what's this like? And that was when we first It
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  Speaker 1: was when we didn't try that we actually got people
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  Speaker 1: to listen to us. It was fucking weird, and we
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  Speaker 1: were putting music out. We started getting labels sitting us up,
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  Speaker 1: and we thought people were fucking with us. We really did.
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  Speaker 1: People were emailing us, and I thought it was like
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  Speaker 1: people fucking like, you know, hey, I'm blah blah blah
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  Speaker 1: from Electroreq, and I thought it was somebody fucking dicking
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so it was funny because we had kind
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  Speaker 1: of just kind of let go of any expectation and
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  Speaker 1: just a fuck it, let's just do whatever we want.
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  Speaker 1: And that was what worked. So that's a lesson everybody. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Just like I said, do what you want and make
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  Speaker 1: people fit to your mold. Don't fit to what you
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  Speaker 1: think they want, because they don't know what they want
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  Speaker 1: until they hear it.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: The debut album, Swan Songs that came out in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and eight, May Like that set the band off
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  Speaker 3: on the pot.
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  Speaker 2: That was a massive success, that album.
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  Speaker 3: Like, at the time I'm making it, did you have
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  Speaker 3: an inkland that it was something special?
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  Speaker 2: Or was it just the best you could do with
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  Speaker 2: the song?
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  Speaker 1: No? I think I think we all knew that we
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  Speaker 1: had like did something. You know, we were young, We're
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  Speaker 1: fucking we were mad, we were angry, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had put so much emotion into it, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought we encapsulated it really well. I didn't know necessarily
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  Speaker 1: that the response would be. I didn't know what the
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  Speaker 1: response would be, but I knew like when we were done,
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of felt like we left everything on the field,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: like we did everything. You know, it took us a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work to write that record, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we we knew we had done everything we could. I
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  Speaker 1: did not know what to expect from it, that I
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  Speaker 1: will admit, like, and you know, it was one of
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  Speaker 1: those records that was certainly like polarizing, and that's how
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  Speaker 1: you know you did something right, because people either loved
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  Speaker 1: it or they fucking hated it. Like there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people like fucking hated it, and then there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people who loved it. And that's when
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  Speaker 1: you know you did something right because that when people
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  Speaker 1: have that strong an opinion on something, it's not like,
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  Speaker 1: oh I just did it's not my thing. It was
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  Speaker 1: like fuck this. I was like, okay that we did
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  Speaker 1: something good here, because they you know, when people don't
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  Speaker 1: like something and I mean it makes their blood boil
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  Speaker 1: or people love it to the degree that they were
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  Speaker 1: getting the fucking cover tattooed on them. I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's something going on here. So yeah, I mean we
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  Speaker 1: were we were really proud of it, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think we you know, it's it's always going to
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  Speaker 1: be a special moment in my life just because we
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  Speaker 1: worked for years and years to be able to even
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  Speaker 1: get to the point to make it, and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't blow it at the when it was
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  Speaker 1: like game time, I was happy because you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: very easy to do. We finally had our chance, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get your chance to go up to bat, and
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  Speaker 1: I felt like we hit a home run. So I
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  Speaker 1: was always happy about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yees. So, well, what actually gave you more drive? Mate?
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  Speaker 3: Like the people that absolutely hated it or the people
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  Speaker 3: that loved it?
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  Speaker 2: Like, what what gave you more drived?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? The people I hate it by far. Still to
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  Speaker 1: this day, I get there's nothing better than than pissing
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  Speaker 1: those people up. I can't help it. And maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: just me like, and don't get me wrong in doing
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  Speaker 1: people like we have fans. We've had fans that have
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  Speaker 1: been there since our first tours, like that twenty years
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  Speaker 1: I'm not getting. We've had fans that were my age
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  Speaker 1: when we started that are now married, they have kids,
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  Speaker 1: and they still come to shows and I've seen them.
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  Speaker 1: I have there now. They we kind of grew up
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  Speaker 1: together essentially, and I love it. And you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have fans with the lyrics tattooed all that there's it's
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, man, Just there's something about someone wanting
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  Speaker 1: you to fail and you just not in succeeding in
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  Speaker 1: spite of it. That there's just no better feeling in
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  Speaker 1: the world, you know, because because it's almost like good
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  Speaker 1: versus evil, Because you know, like if I don't like something,
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  Speaker 1: If I if there's a band or something I don't like,
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  Speaker 1: I won't even tell anybody I don't like them, because
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  Speaker 1: I don't like putting that out in the air. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like there's plenty of things I don't like. I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel the need to go tell people I don't
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  Speaker 1: like it. I certainly don't need to tell the band
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I don't like them, So who the fuck are you? Like?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: You know, everything isn't for everybody, but people who have
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: to go on the internet or go up to thee
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: oh your You know, I just hate these people so
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: much because they just want to spread the negativity. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: you know, they're usually dude who have never done a
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: damn thing with themselves, who are mad that someone else
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: is trying, you know what I mean, And making those
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: people unhappy is a beautiful thing.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Well said brother Well said, how would you say that?
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: The Hollywood on Dead have changed your grind musically from
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: that debut album straight to what you're doing now?
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, well music it uh, I guess it
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: changed to the degree that we've changed. We're a lot
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: different than we were, you know what I mean. We're
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: all older, we're all fathers and husbands and like so
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: as you you've and I'm not saying we're different people
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: at the core, but as life changes, I guess are
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: songs the subjects in particular. I think our records have
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: gotten darker more than anything else, because like, we take
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: life more seriously. I suppose, as you know, Swan song's
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: had a lot of innocence to it. You're you're still
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you still look at the world differently, You're still naive.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You're twenty years old and you're like, I don't know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: there there's a level of naivety to the way you
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: view things, and as time goes on, you start to
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: view things a little differently. But I would just say, yeah,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: it's only music. The album's changed to the degree that
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the people writing them change and the world changes around
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: them and stuff like that. But we always you know,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think we one and I know this is
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: common when we do on those three. We never go, hey,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: let's write something different. We always want to try and
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: keep it organic and keep it the change at the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: pace that is natural to us. You know, sounds change,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: production changes, and those things change automatically, but really organic
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: change is basically being honest with yourself and writing songs.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: If you're writing songs that are organic to your feelings,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: letting allowing that to just come kind of come out naturally.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to write songs that I don't
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: mean and things like that, so you know, I suppose
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the main thing is, yeah, they've probably the darkness kind
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of starts to creep in. Mortality obviously becomes something you
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: think about a lot more as you get older, so
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: death kind of starts to you know, come into play.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Things like that. Just to be honest,