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Episode 223: Are trends killing gaming? · WASD and Beyond

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  Welcome back to the absolutely WASD and Beyond warehouse, Nick
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  Tuesday that that'll be out. Actual play DND podcast.
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  This is our third session, but we have two different parties
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  kind of existing in the same world and we're still early on,
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  so they're not directly influencing too much yet, but
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  I'm sure they will and make my life hell.
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  So yeah. I have no idea where any of it's
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  going because obviously, while I may be 1 of Brody's, I like to
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  say best friends. Yeah, of course.
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  I just, I don't know where the story is going because I'm a
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  player. I'm not just a guy on the
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  outside. I'm on the inside.
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  That's right. I'm trapped in there with Brody.
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  Yeah, you're in my world now, motherfucker.
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  You wanted to say bitch, but then.
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  You had to. Go there.
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  Like I saw you changed. You're like, I'm going to call
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  my motherfucker. It's like, yeah, that sounds
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  better. I think I don't.
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  And now on to the show Brody. Yes.
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  Thank God you're back. I don't know.
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  You say that every time I come back.
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  I you know what, I just feel like, I feel like mom and like
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  mom and dad both left and I was left with a credit card and I
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  was told get a large pizza, but I got 2 and then I ordered HBO
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  and then that's, that's dated. Yeah, yeah, you accidentally got
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  the skin of Max didn't. You for although for the younger
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  audience on Cinemax past midnight, there was softcore
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  pornography. Yes.
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  I remember OK. Do you?
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  Do you have a vivid memory of any of them by chance?
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  No. No, I have vivid memory of one.
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  It was a caveman softcore porn. That's the choice.
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  I was sitting in my parents room, my grandparents just left
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  for the night after babysitting us and I went did a little look
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  around the room, turned on skinny Max and it was like the
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  weirdest caveman thing in the world.
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  And they were just at one point you could see where the male
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  performer is wearing a what I guess I'm I'll call a cock
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  guard. Probably a cup.
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  To that's that to some. Extent.
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  Yeah, it makes more sense, doesn't it?
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  But we'll stick with cock guard, that's fine.
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  Cock guard's cool. Yeah, that's cool, man.
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  That's if we were WASD and beyond branded cups.
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  There you go. They call them cock guards,
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  dude. That's it.
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  That's the merch. And it was just like this weird
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  thing where it's just dude and chick dressed up as Cavemen.
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  One dude had the prosthetics on his eyebrow to.
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  Yeah. And it was wild.
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  And I may have gotten off to it. Did it?
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  Awaken something in you. Definitely masturbated.
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  I don't know why, you know, 12 years old, you don't.
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  Well, I mean at at 12 it's like wind blows just right, like.
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  Not anymore. For these kids though, they have
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  it way too easy. Do you know how hard it was to
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  steal a Playboy back in the day? You.
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  Know what I mean? Like now it's a Google search
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  away. That's I think it's far worse,
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  just what they could type back. For me it was big boob big.
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  Boob. That's it.
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  I'm like, all right, we're in. Anyways, on to some video games.
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  Brody, I would love to ask you what you've been playing.
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  I would love to. Yeah, I let's see.
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  I mainly the Battlefield beta. What?
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  Were your thoughts on that? I liked the first weekend better
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  than I did the second. Yep.
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  And that's not to say the second weekend was bad.
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  I think I was burned out because we they just kept putting us in
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  the same maps over and over and over.
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  Cairo. Yes, every single time.
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  I played that map so many fucking times this weekend while
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  trying to finish up some of those challenges, I had one
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  challenge left and I think it was like I had to capture.
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  I had to capture sectors in rush or breakthrough and obviously
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  you don't get captures if you're on the defending side.
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  So you're kind of rolling the dice every time you load into a
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  game. And I finally said fuck it.
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  I just don't want to do this. I I did enjoy my time with it
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  right? Like I, I do think it is a solid
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  battlefield game. I'm not I'm not crazy about some
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  of the map design and even the siege of Cairo was cool for a
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  little while. But when you play it like 30 out
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  of 50 games, it gets a little old.
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  So I, I am kind of interested to see some of the other maps and
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  kind of get a little bit of variety in there, especially
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  when like you're playing Conquest, it seemed like it
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  always, always put you on Siege of Cairo.
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  So. Every time I felt like yeah.
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  Yeah, it was non-stop, but I, I, I did enjoy my time with it and
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  I do I I am still looking forward to it.
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  I do think the second weekend it wasn't as smooth.
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  I had some choppiness. I had some like weird server
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  side lag I had. That code error.
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  Yeah, some net code stuff where like I'd shoot a guy 1st and not
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  miss any shots and I'd still die even though we're he had like a
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  fucking the the basically the same gun type of thing, like
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  just weird things that were kind of happening.
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  So I, I mean, it does make me a little nervous, but at the same
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  time I think it's probably fine other than that I've been making
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  APC to play older games so. Preservation.
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  Yeah, that is consumed a lot of time.
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  The the PC took 5 minutes to throw together.
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  Getting the setup done also took 5 to 10 minutes.
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  If even the the the media has been the the time consuming part
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  of basically just going through a lot of lists and figuring out
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  what I want and what I don't want and all of that.
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  So that has consumed a shit load of time, but it's going to be
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  really, really cool when it's done.
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  And I'm really excited because my kid gets to play some of
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  these games and and experience them for the first time now.
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  He tried out like I think he said it was like Madden and he
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  said mad No 6. And he's like that game felt
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  like it there was like 3 pixels on the screen.
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  I'm like, oh boy, you should try like an original Game Boy game
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  or an NES game because it's a drastic difference.
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  Never played a Tiger Electronics game my.
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  Friend. Yeah, right.
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  Check out Quarterback Club 98, my guy.
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  Oh. My God.
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  Car rides were so. Sweet though, it was the same.
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  Fucking thing. Oh yeah.
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  So that's that's consumed most of my time for probably what,
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  the last three or four days now I basically haven't seen you on
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  yet. Get off work.
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  And I just keep plugging away at that.
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  I have it all set up like a full computer desk and everything.
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  I just the only thing I'm really I I need to set up a microphone
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  over there and set up a headset. I I bought some cheap ass
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  speakers just to have some sound coming out of it, but I don't
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  have everything for being able to actually get in on discord
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  and just chat while I do all this.
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  Not to mention I have to like, yeah, yeah, that would be cool.
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  CRTS go for like, stupid money now, though.
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  Yeah, 'cause everybody wanted them, right?
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  Like there was one specific model of like a Sony TV that
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  everybody fucking wants. And it's like going for crazy,
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  crazy. It's like the perfect TV to play
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  like your 360 to like or Xbox to like, Xbox three 60s,
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  PlayStation to the PlayStation 3's, things like that.
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  Yeah, yeah, I know which one you're talking about.
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  Initially this setup is I, I intended to run up through like
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  Game Cube, PlayStation two, an original Xbox.
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  I might be able to get a little bit more out past that, but
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  emulation past that point is kind of hit or miss anyway.
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  So, and I mean, I, I have a 360 still that I think works.
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  I don't know, I haven't plugged it in a really long time.
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  That poor thing. Yeah, that, that thing screaming
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  for dear life. But yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a
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  really cool project that I've wanted to do for years now and I
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  just never pulled the trigger on it.
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  But yeah, we're, we're here now. We're doing it.
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  We're doing. Things Fuck yeah dude no dude I
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  love projects like that man. I really wanted to make a
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  stealth PC. So like basically APC that looks
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  like it's from the 90s but with like dope ass gear in it.
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  I've seen a lot of people do cool things like that.
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  It's just for me it's OK, I've seen them do it and it's all
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  water cooled because those old cases are very.
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  No air flow. And it's like, I don't want to
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  like I want to do a full radiator case eventually.
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  Like that's my goal. Like eventually like, you know,
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  I love this thing, but eventually I'm going to have to
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  go to like the all water, all radiator.
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  I just love the aesthetic. I love the look.
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  But again, that's something where if you don't have your
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  cable management upright, you ain't doing it.
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  There's no point, no like 'cause that thing has to face out when
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  you walk into the room. You, that's the first, that's
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  that's the focal point. It it looks like that Simpsons
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  meme where he's got the clothes pins in the back.
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  You know, you just shove all the wires back behind the
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  motherboard like it's fine. It's pretty on the answer.
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  Neil's I can walk into Neil's office and he has a that he has
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  a giant PC, water cooled, beautiful Gale management from
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  the outside to the end. I'm like God damn bro son of
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  bitch. That takes time and I I always
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  go in with the intention of doing that and then I get like
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  halfway through the cable management side of it and I get
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  pissed off because cables will not sit where I want them to.
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  Something unplug and. Something unplug.
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  Yeah, just something stupid and I finally say Nah, fuck this.
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  Enough's enough. But I've been I so I did the
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  same thing as you did. I played a lot of Battlefield 6,
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  Battlefield 6 Bat field, very good bat.
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  Battlefield. Battlefield, it is water Helen.
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  So I've been playing a lot. I played a lot of the beta and
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  same shit, same thing, Brody said.
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  I'm not going to reiterate too much, but will I?
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  What I will say is found an exploit with the team.
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  That was funny. I I went up a little little like
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  broke down radio tower thing jumped where I wasn't supposed
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  to jump, jumped again. And then Connor, I put her, I
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  put a little respawn beacon down and everyone went, of course you
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  would. I, I wasn't looking.
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  I found it and everyone went and then Connor jumped the other
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  side of the building and he goes, there's more.
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  And I went, well do tell. And then we were on top of the
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  map basically. And people, if they're, if you
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  could hear VoIP, it would all be censored.
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  There's no way I didn't get called a hard slur that day.
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  Oh, for sure. But I was on top of a building
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  Brody like looked up at the camera went I'm not saying it.
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  They did Brody's Brody at one point.
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  I'm like up on this like where I'm not supposed to be and I'm
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  looking down going boom, dead, boom, dead.
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  I felt so dirty, but I felt even more dirty when I grabbed my
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  nude tube and I went this will be funny.
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  Boom. And then just like 5.
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  I'm like oh that was so bad. I was like, OK.
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  The the one thing I didn't mention about this is when I was
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  frustrated with the game, it was because I was playing by myself.
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  Whenever we were all playing together, it was a fucking
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  blast. And it was exactly what I
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  remember from playing Battlefield back in the day with
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  friends. Like, yeah, it even when it is
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  shitty and things aren't going right, it was still a blast of
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  play. Well even me finding that
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  exploit was still funny. Like it wasn't like it wasn't
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  like I hacked. I literally jumped somewhere I
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  shouldn't have jumped and it was allowing me to get on top of a
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  building, which may I add, you should be just be allowed to get
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  on top of that. Yeah, I mean, so it was so
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  common and Siege of Cairo anyway, because people would
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  parachute in and land on top of the building.
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  So there was always people on top of the building, but they
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  aren't realistically supposed to be there.
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  But it's fully textured and there's things to climb and I'm
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  like, this should be in the game and like you should be allowed
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  to do this. Like I mean in 2025 we we do
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  typically look up at buildings because we've had verticality in
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  FPS games for. I like vertical FPS shooters.
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  Yeah. I don't need to just have it
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  full, you know, like straightforward, like if I get
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  shot from some dude in a window, I'm not going to get pissed.
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  I'm going to be like, damn, like, well, it depends if I
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  spawn, die, spawn die, spawn die.
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  But no, I mean, dude, it's a blast.
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  I can't I, I think, I hope this is a smooth launch.
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  It needs to be this battlefield has to have that launch.
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  Goes I don't even necessarily need it to be a smooth launch I
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  just need it to be a smooth battlefield launch yes which
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  really the bar is set incredibly low you.
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  Did just did the middle? Huge stress tests like hopefully
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  please. Oh my God, we'll see.
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  We'll see. Well, let's break some more
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  bread and let's talk about I. I don't think I I probably
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  didn't. That's that means eating with
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  like a neighbor doesn't. It yeah, typically.
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  Let's do that then. You're like making peace.
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  Yeah, it's fine. You're good.
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  You're good. OK, let's let's get on to the
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  main topic I kind of wanted to discuss, like gaming trends.
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  Currently, Yeah, every, I would say decade, a good handful of
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  trends take their claws and sink them into the industry.
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  Right now, the trends that I'm noticing are low Poly horror
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  games, mouthwashing, Fear the Spotlight, fuck Crow Country,
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  and there's a ton of others that are coming out and are out.
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  Some are very good, like the three I've just mentioned, and
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  some are shit and it's unimaginative.
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  You got extraction shooters, you got looter shooters that really
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  like the big extraction looter battle Royale, what have you.
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  I just wanted to discuss a bit of how these trends come and go.
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  And do you feel like any of the current trends we are seeing
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  nowadays are going to stick? Because for me, the low Poly
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  thing works sometimes. Like, yeah, I'm I understand not
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  every game has to look crazy good.
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  Everything's going to have its own art style and that's fine.
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  But if you if you gave me the option to play Resident Evil
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  when it was first released to play what we are getting with
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  Resident Evil now, I'm going to tell you I'm going to play the
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  new Resident Evil because I don't want to go back to that.
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  Like I tank controls and the dog.
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  The pixels are so out of whack. Yes, back then and still for
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  nostalgia. It's amazing to see and look at
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  and like reminisce. But if I'm given the option, I
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  don't need to play that. I'm going to play the new shit
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  and there's nothing wrong with all the old stuff.
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  I love you. I mean, the joke in the server
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  is that I'm the guy who plays 30 year old games.
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  Very true. I will sit and just play 30 year
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  old games, 20, whatever. Like right now I have the
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  biggest like itch to go back and play Kane and Lynch Dog days.
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  Oh hell yeah. Fucking love that game.
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  I have an itch to play the old Max Payne.
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  Like there's so many games I have an itch to play that are
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  just old because sometimes the new games don't.
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  They just don't cut it for me. I feel like this year in
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  particular too, I mean, there, there's been some huge hitters,
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  right? But yeah, I do feel like Wu
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  Chang Fallen Feather didn't really hit.
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  Like there's been a handful of games that just really haven't
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  done what we were really avowed was another one, right.
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  So I I do feel like there's a lot of people kind of turning to
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  maybe not 30 year old games, but older stuff in general.
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  So yeah, I think there's absolutely a market there.
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  I think the problem with like those low Poly games are not
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  necessarily problem. I think the audience said that
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  captured or captures is such a specific market.
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  It is people our age, right, like essentially millennials,
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  right? Like whether it be on the lower
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  or older side of that that curve.
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  But I feel like millennials are the ones that are like I
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  remember playing in 64 games. I remember playing PlayStation
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  one games. This is kind of neat, right?
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  And. So I, it, it is really cool and
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  I do enjoy that people are doing that because it's also like the,
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  the, the 3D era that always gets pointed to as being like ugly,
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  right? Like you look at Final Fantasy 7
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  and. Yeah, the blocky, the real.
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  Blocky and even then, like from my understanding at that point,
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  like the the character models were pretty bad even for the
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  time, right? Like, but people enjoy it and it
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  because that story was so incredible that people enjoyed,
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  enjoyed the game regardless. And I, I think there's something
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  to be said for if you can release a game now, like Crow
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  country, right? And it comes out and it has that
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  art style that not everybody's going to vibe with, but it still
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  gets pretty positive. Feedback.
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  Of. Yours.
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  People liked it. I, I, I think there's something
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  to be said for your game as a whole, if you can work with that
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  more minimalistic. Mouthwashing did the same thing.
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  Yeah, mouthwashing was one that was.
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  That's everywhere that I hate, dude.
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  Oh yeah. People love that like there's
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  like whole like lore dumps and like it's insane.
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  Like because I like mouthwashing.
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  I I fucking love mouthwashing. It's a great game.
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  That's one I have not tried yet. I do need to play it and press
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  it on my list. I just have.
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  Yeah, that's that's another reason I'm like, you know, I
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  don't know I. Don't need this, right?
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  Now I don't need sadness in my games.
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  Every fucking thing is sad nowadays.
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  Except for Expedition 33 is like one of my favorite games of the
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  year. So I don't know, maybe I do.
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  Maybe I'm a sucker for it. I've.
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  Been I was talking to a couple of guys at work and I, I, I
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  brought up how at one point you're like, you told me like,
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  did you like Ballers gate three? I was like, I love Ballers gate
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  3. You're like, and you're not
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  going to try expedition at all. And I was like, so then like
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  Zach at work was like, probably should.
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  It's even on Game Pass Dog. I know you have access to it.
• 22:18
  I know it's it. It's not free to try, but you
• 22:22
  already pay for it so. I don't, yeah.
• 22:24
  I'll just play it. I know, I know, I know.
• 22:27
  I think you'll know, or you're going to hate it, but I think
• 22:30
  you'll love it. I'll love it because it's so
• 22:32
  fucking weird. Yeah.
• 22:35
  I'm a weird. You have to make it through act
• 22:38
  one. That is the that is my only
• 22:40
  requirement. If you drop it after act one,
• 22:42
  fine, but you have to make it through act one first and then
• 22:46
  tell me you do not want to continue that fucking game.
• 22:49
  All right, WASD and beyond Wheel and deal has happened.
• 22:51
  Shake on Cam. It'll be on YouTube.
• 22:53
  Yep. All right, there you go.
• 22:57
  I'll start next. I'll start on Monday.
• 22:59
  I'll stream it even. Oh.
• 23:02
  Hell yeah. There you go so stream on Monday
• 23:05
  of B play trying to play it. Can I is it?
• 23:09
  Did you play with a keyboard, mouse, mouse and or did you
• 23:12
  play? With a Go controller.
• 23:14
  Control OK. Or, well, no, no, no, I played
• 23:16
  right. There had a stroke.
• 23:19
  I actually think I played it mouse and keyboard.
• 23:22
  Just kidding because my controller was wigging out when
• 23:27
  I was trying to start it. Something about like the Xbox it
• 23:31
  it fucked with some shit but I I do believe I actually played it
• 23:35
  mouse and keyboard. It's friendly either way, so
• 23:38
  whichever way you want to all. Right now we've gone there.
• 23:41
  I'm I'm playing Expedition now. So yeah, I mean, it's really
• 23:45
  cool to see that style lend itself to the current age, to
• 23:48
  the current audience and to like kind of recapture us as players.
• 23:53
  But again, and like I just if if you're a small studio doing
• 23:59
  this, I have no problem with that.
• 24:02
  It's probably a great way to save some money for small teams.
• 24:06
  That's a great way to get some shit pumped out like tell and
• 24:10
  then you can release that game. People love it for the art
• 24:12
  style, sure, but it gives you more time and money to make a
• 24:17
  new game. I think, yeah, I, I think it's a
• 24:21
  great option, especially for like an indie studio to get
• 24:24
  their idea out in a way that isn't going to cost them $100
• 24:30
  million to do photo realistic graphics and mocapping and this
• 24:35
  and that, right? Same for pixel art, right?
• 24:38
  That's why pixel art took office because you had things like
• 24:42
  Stardew Valley or Shovel Knight, like those are two big heavy
• 24:46
  hitters that I think of especially at the like start of
• 24:48
  it that. Animal.
• 24:50
  Well, now. Yeah, Animal, well, like just
• 24:54
  it, it's very interesting and I but you don't see like third
• 24:59
  party studios doing that, right, which fair or not, sorry, not
• 25:03
  third party, but like a AAA studios doing that, which I'm OK
• 25:07
  with, right. I don't need them to ruin it,
• 25:10
  but at the same time, it's hard to look at an art style and know
• 25:13
  if the game is actually going to be good just because it's pixel
• 25:16
  art because there's so many of them.
• 25:18
  I in some of like, again, I'm like the the RPGJRPG kind of guy
• 25:25
  for all the intents and purposes.
• 25:29
  So you can go on to Steam right now and look at JRP GS and half
• 25:34
  of them are going to be things that were made in like RPG
• 25:36
  Maker, right? But like, bitch.
• 25:41
  Yeah. But we also had something like
• 25:42
  Sea of Stars last year that had gorgeous fucking pixel art.
• 25:46
  Like, it was incredible what they did there.
• 25:49
  So it, it's, it's a real toss up.
• 25:52
  Like it's, there's a lot of trends that are happening,
• 25:54
  especially in the indie space. I think even more so than
• 25:57
  anything else, that really kind of leads the direction of where
• 26:01
  everybody goes for the the the future.
• 26:06
  Another indie trend that is really popular right now is VoIP
• 26:09
  games like. Holding.
• 26:11
  Fuck, I didn't even think about that.
• 26:13
  That is a fucking huge one, especially if you set it up to
• 26:18
  where your character talks as or moves their mouth as they are.
• 26:23
  It's. Genius.
• 26:24
  It's amazing. And honestly, I think those
• 26:27
  games live in that like 5 to $15.00 range because you can hit
• 26:34
  up your, your buddies on discord, be like, listen, man,
• 26:37
  it's $8 eight fucking dollars. Like come on.
• 26:42
  Like and and people will buy it, right?
• 26:45
  Like that's why Lethal company was so successful, even though
• 26:48
  they didn't have the moving mouth things.
• 26:50
  But then you look at repo where they started to do the the
• 26:53
  moving mouth things, you've got climb more recently.
• 26:58
  That was a huge hit, not only because it is a fun game, but
• 27:01
  also the VoIP is, is pretty good where everybody sounds distant
• 27:05
  when they're far away. And I think those are really
• 27:10
  awesome fun party games that you can charge like, yeah, $10 is
• 27:15
  like that sweet spot, right? If you can, it's, it's really
• 27:19
  hard for you to convince somebody to buy a $70 game.
• 27:23
  But a $10 game, like you could convince somebody to buy seven
• 27:28
  of those motherfuckers easier than you could convince somebody
• 27:32
  to buy a $70 game. And it works every time.
• 27:36
  Almost every time. Yeah.
• 27:38
  I mean like I bought games for $5 that the Discord has been
• 27:41
  playing that I have never even touched.
• 27:45
  Climb though. Oh man, like that thing, the
• 27:48
  thing with climb that I really fucking love and I don't want
• 27:52
  this is my biggest fear. I don't want the triple-A realm
• 27:57
  to touch these things. No, I want them to stay away
• 28:01
  from some of these trends because it's like a let these
• 28:04
  studios, they're doing it, let them do it.
• 28:08
  I don't need Call of Duty to fucking add the fucking mouth
• 28:11
  move. I don't need that.
• 28:12
  Call of Duty just needs to fuck off for a couple years, re
• 28:15
  evaluate what it's doing and realize leave the fucking Beavis
• 28:19
  and butt head and Nicki Minaj to Fortnite.
• 28:21
  Makes them too much fucking money.
• 28:23
  They never will they that that hamster wheel has been spinning
• 28:27
  for the last fucking 20 years and it's not going to stop.
• 28:30
  I hate it. Anyways, I really just hope that
• 28:35
  the AAA scene, I'll the I'll say that stays away from that dude
• 28:40
  because like what these people are creating is fucking awesome
• 28:43
  and it's great time. And yes, the other trend that I
• 28:47
  am seeing is made for streamer games, which a lot of these fall
• 28:52
  into because I, I'm going to say straight up, I think streaming
• 28:57
  has ruined gaming in a way that most people are, are like, we
• 29:03
  make content. That's right, lazily.
• 29:09
  But still. We we could click bait, clip
• 29:15
  farm our shit. We do not because I love what
• 29:19
  I'm talking about. And if you want to hear it,
• 29:20
  you'll find it like, yes, I could make this more successful.
• 29:24
  I'm sure we could, but I'm not playing climb.
• 29:28
  I'm not playing repo lethal company, Crow country.
• 29:32
  I'm not playing these games to put to just sit on a stream,
• 29:37
  which is ironic because I'm gonna play Expedition on a
• 29:39
  stream on Monday, but I'm doing it for the clicks.
• 29:42
  I'm doing it because I love to play these games.
• 29:44
  Yeah, Like, yes, there are funny moments that happened that I'm
• 29:47
  like immediately I was like, that has to go online because I
• 29:50
  need other people to hear that joke.
• 29:51
  Yeah, Dylan Dawson was another one that really took over the
• 29:55
  Discord, right. We didn't upload shit.
• 30:00
  The the protocol, Lethal Protocol, something like that.
• 30:05
  Like that's another one. I these these party game or not
• 30:08
  really even party games, these like collective, almost like a
• 30:14
  sandbox games of some sort just really works so exceptionally
• 30:19
  well. But yeah, unfortunately they do
• 30:21
  fall into that realm of streamer game.
• 30:23
  You look at games like when I think of streamer games, I
• 30:27
  typically think of like those inherently bad games like only
• 30:31
  up where it's just frustrating and or getting over it with
• 30:36
  Benny Ben. Bennett Foddy.
• 30:38
  Yeah, and then there's one that I've seen my kids watch where
• 30:42
  there's a guy throwing a fucking milk bottle and trying to light
• 30:46
  it on different platform. I don't fucking know.
• 30:48
  But I I think I think games like Lethal Company and all these
• 30:54
  other VoIP games, especially the ones that have gotten extremely
• 30:57
  popular, I don't know if their sole intention was streaming,
• 31:01
  whereas I do think the ones like only up are entirely for
• 31:05
  streaming or chained together. Like we had some fun with
• 31:09
  chained together too, but that is very much a streaming game as
• 31:12
  well. Like there's there's a lot of
• 31:14
  those as well. And streamers are just a whole
• 31:18
  nother fucking. They're vampires.
• 31:20
  I I really, I really do feel like like XQC can catch his
• 31:25
  hands. Tim the tat man, you're a fat
• 31:28
  bitch. You can catch these hands man
• 31:31
  Ninja I I don't really hate you. You're just a Dick to people for
• 31:34
  no reason. I don't like, I don't like big
• 31:36
  streamers. No.
• 31:38
  I don't, because what it does is what it should do is inspire the
• 31:43
  younger generation of streamers and get players and gamers who
• 31:47
  are going to maybe end up in E sports and on Twitch and doing
• 31:51
  all these cool things to actually enjoy the game they're
• 31:54
  playing. Yeah, half the time this
• 31:57
  screamer epidemic is them sitting miserably in a chair
• 32:04
  like that big bitch queso, screaming and hating their
• 32:11
  fucking lives until they see the don't know it.
• 32:14
  And it's like, fuck you, dude. The whole personality that they
• 32:18
  have to take on and because that's what is popular with
• 32:22
  kids, right? This over stimulating,
• 32:25
  screaming, yelling, overreacting to fucking everything is this,
• 32:32
  It's terrible, right? My kids, my especially my
• 32:35
  youngest, he likes to watch a lot of like YouTube.
• 32:38
  So he will watch these YouTube videos of not necessarily
• 32:43
  streamers. I'm sure they stream as well,
• 32:45
  but where they have gotten most of their popularity is through
• 32:48
  YouTube. But it's the same thing, right?
• 32:51
  And my wife finally told him like, you can't watch these
• 32:54
  fucking videos in the morning because I'm going to lose my
• 32:57
  shit. Like before school.
• 32:58
  They wake up in the morning, the first thing he does is turn that
• 33:01
  on and you have some guy screaming into the microphone
• 33:04
  overreacting to the fucking 10th degree about something stupid
• 33:09
  that happened. You're like.
• 33:13
  You're going to panic like. Shit stresses me the fuck out.
• 33:18
  And then like I I've streamed a couple times, like I, I think I
• 33:21
  was playing Doom or something and there's like this constant
• 33:25
  need to talk almost. And I just play games that way.
• 33:28
  I don't really if, if we're playing in a group, I, I react
• 33:32
  that way, but nobody sits there and plays games the way these
• 33:34
  fucking people play games. They're psychopaths.
• 33:39
  Dude, and it's I know this sounds like old men yelling at
• 33:41
  clouds, but like, I just, I just, I just, I like finding
• 33:48
  streamers who are actually digging the things they're
• 33:52
  doing. Like Linco is a good example.
• 33:55
  Sean over in England, while he's a bit sassy online, you're
• 34:00
  sassy, Sean very sassy on Twitter.
• 34:03
  I do know for a fact the games he's playing he loves.
• 34:07
  Yeah, they're they're they're niche titles to the norm.
• 34:10
  They are. Or sometimes it's just Quake or
• 34:13
  Half Life or like just all these old games that he loves to play.
• 34:19
  Like that is sweet. When fucking misses Slaughter.
• 34:24
  Miss Slaughter is live for. Oh my fucking God.
• 34:30
  System Shock, which does this. I'm so stupid.
• 34:34
  Night Dive. Night dive, she she'll do the
• 34:36
  night dive stuff and I'm sorry, night.
• 34:39
  I love you night dive so much. By the way.
• 34:41
  I cannot believe I fucking didn't think about that.
• 34:45
  But like she is great because you could tell she loves it and
• 34:49
  then she'll go play like Sonic, like fighter like, but that's
• 34:53
  cool. It's cool to see people like
• 34:55
  that exist doing cool things and playing the games I like to play
• 34:59
  and then also talking with their community.
• 35:01
  But that's a trend that I just I, I cannot get behind is just
• 35:04
  these fake personalities in gaming.
• 35:07
  Like and like for like shroud, like I don't necessarily like
• 35:11
  Shroud, but at least I know he actually comes from like gaming.
• 35:16
  Like the dude fucking was a was, was a counter strike pro.
• 35:19
  Like I know you fucking care a little bit, but like, yeah,
• 35:24
  dude, that shit sucks. I hate that shit.
• 35:27
  I hate streamers. They are a cancer and I just, I
• 35:31
  just if there's like a celebrity boxing, I'll be like the not
• 35:36
  celebrity, but I'll just throw hands with anybody you tell me
• 35:40
  to throw hands with like I don't care.
• 35:43
  I'm done. Let's do it.
• 35:45
  WASD tag team. Oh fuck yeah.
• 35:49
  I just don't want to fight speed.
• 35:53
  He's got, he's like got that Bruce Lee body thing going on
• 35:55
  right now and it's he's too, he's going to be too fast.
• 35:58
  He's going to fuck me up. I know he's back.
• 36:01
  I'm done, dude. I really don't want to deal with
• 36:02
  that. Yeah, that's right.
• 36:06
  Yeah. And kind of going back into some
• 36:09
  of our trends here, right, we we got a touch sidetracked, but
• 36:14
  it's also honestly a trend that has has kind of really pointed
• 36:19
  the direction of a lot of developers as well.
• 36:21
  So it is fair to bring up in this conversation for sure, but
• 36:26
  one I wanted to bring up with a lot or with AAA companies
• 36:32
  actually is the live service game thing, which is a broad
• 36:37
  range. I feel like we are finally
• 36:40
  hitting the point where a lot of companies are not really chasing
• 36:44
  the battle Royale as much. I feel like that is finally
• 36:46
  starting to die down. It feels like it's an option
• 36:49
  now. Yeah, it's like usually a it's
• 36:52
  over here if you want it, but also like, yeah, whatever.
• 36:57
  But and I played, I, I played the shit out of Marvel Rivals,
• 37:01
  right? Like that is my life service
• 37:03
  game. But I you can really only
• 37:05
  feasibly pick one if you want to do everything in the game, if
• 37:09
  you want to make it through the passes, if you want to do this
• 37:11
  and that. Like you can really only play
• 37:13
  one of these. But all of these companies are
• 37:15
  trying to spit these things out. Like people have unlimited
• 37:18
  fucking time to play it's six different live service games and
• 37:23
  keep up with it and spend money in it.
• 37:25
  I mean, look at Concord, right, the probably the biggest flop of
• 37:30
  this decade so far as far. See how Marathon does.
• 37:34
  Well, yeah, a marathon might be right there.
• 37:36
  I just saw their CEO left today by the way.
• 37:39
  Don't worry, it's going into an OPE.
• 37:40
  It's going into another play test next month.
• 37:43
  I'm sure nothing has changed. And I'm still not invited.
• 37:46
  Fuck you, buddy. But the life service thing has
• 37:50
  been I honestly a scourge on fucking games.
• 37:55
  Like you can't just make a multiplayer game.
• 37:57
  You can't just make a single player game.
• 37:59
  There's got to be fucking and I have no problem with DLC, right?
• 38:03
  DLCI think is a good thing to have in games to be able to
• 38:06
  expand upon a single player game.
• 38:08
  I there's nothing wrong with that as long as it's not
• 38:11
  egregious. There's a way to do it.
• 38:12
  There's a lot of companies that have done it and done it well,
• 38:16
  but there's some companies that abuse that as well.
• 38:19
  But like, I shouldn't be buying cosmetics or or anything like
• 38:25
  that in a single player game. But why?
• 38:27
  Why is that there? Why is that that it?
• 38:29
  Should be unlockable. Or you can have like I you can
• 38:32
  have DLC that brings new cosmetics or something like
• 38:35
  that. But I I look at Ubisoft as I.
• 38:38
  Still feel dirty dude. A huge one that I've really
• 38:42
  despised is the way Ubisoft has handled recent Assassin's Creed
• 38:46
  games where they put in like a fast pass to basically level
• 38:50
  your fucking character up and skip a bunch of shit so you
• 38:53
  literally pay money to not play their fucking game.
• 38:56
  Which fair enough, it's an Ubisoft game, but at the same
• 38:59
  time the fuck like what are we doing here?
• 39:03
  I, I just, there's a lot of weird shit like that where
• 39:07
  everything just has to be able to like nickel and dime you for
• 39:10
  everything. Mobile games are a fucking
• 39:12
  nightmare. Like everything's a fucking
• 39:14
  nightmare with all of this microtransaction bullshit.
• 39:17
  It's like, yeah, the, the cost of games is going up.
• 39:22
  We're going $7080 now right in the US.
• 39:25
  And but on top of that, now you also still have to buy DLC
• 39:29
  that's probably also going to go up in price.
• 39:30
  You like if you want the full story, if you want anything
• 39:33
  beyond that, it's like that's where it gets egregious.
• 39:37
  The original price increase. I'm not stoked about either, but
• 39:40
  I kind of understand where that's coming from.
• 39:43
  But when you also just have so much microtransactions for a
• 39:47
  game, like if you look up a JRPG game or a Monster Hunter Wilds,
• 39:52
  right, Monster Hunter Wilds is a game that I think of and all of
• 39:56
  the Monster Hunter games have been this way where you have a
• 39:59
  season pass or a content pass for like a season, right?
• 40:02
  And so you get. Fucking D or not DLC, but like
• 40:08
  fucking cosmetic pack one through 5 with this one and you
• 40:12
  get that and it has gestures and it has emotes and it has
• 40:16
  hairstyles and maybe like one layer style for your your armor.
• 40:21
  And like that kind of stuff is just outrageous and egregious.
• 40:26
  And I I'm so over the life service thing and I I understand
• 40:31
  these companies are trying to make money, but fuck me.
• 40:33
  It's just it turns me off of games so quickly.
• 40:37
  Well, when we're already in an environment where we're spending
• 40:40
  more on the games and the consoles because the PlayStation
• 40:44
  is now more expensive to buy in America.
• 40:47
  So thumbs up, not going to point fingers but.
• 40:52
  Thumbs up. They've raised the price of the
• 40:55
  Switch one in America. The Switch fucking one.
• 41:00
  Yes, listen, I, I remember when it was called expansion packs.
• 41:09
  Yes, and in the expansion again, but like I don't care.
• 41:16
  In the expansion pack you would pay 20, sometimes 30 maybe.
• 41:22
  I've never paid more than 30 bucks for a big expansion pack.
• 41:26
  In that pack you would get almost a second game sometimes.
• 41:31
  Not every time, but if it was a good game with a great expansion
• 41:36
  pack, oh man, you'd get everything in that bitch like.
• 41:41
  Especially for the fall. Let's talk about the Fallout
• 41:43
  series, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas expansion packs.
• 41:50
  Fuck, 4/4 can suck my Dick from the back, but those 3, those two
• 41:57
  games, insane. And then if you just wait a
• 42:00
  couple months, you go to your GameStop and game of the year
• 42:04
  editions out and get it and you get it all.
• 42:07
  Yep. And it's like, that was awesome
• 42:10
  and people bitched about that. I'm like, no, this is good.
• 42:13
  Yeah, that was the the best way to go about it honestly.
• 42:17
  That being said, Bethesda is also the company that kind of
• 42:20
  fucked. I fucking led the the charge on
• 42:24
  all of this with the the horse armor.
• 42:26
  Yeah, well, horse armor, yeah. And then Valve head crates.
• 42:31
  Knives. Keys and yeah, you got to get
• 42:34
  this knife. And if you get this knife, you
• 42:37
  might be able to sell it on the marketplace for ungodly amounts
• 42:40
  of money, but the odds of getting said knife are very
• 42:42
  slim. Very slim, but like I hate the
• 42:46
  the concept of having to have the best skin in the game
• 42:51
  because skins equals wins. And like I've hopped into a game
• 42:55
  of Fortnite where it was like with randos or like abort this,
• 42:59
  abort. What do they call me if you're
• 43:01
  a? What do they call people who
• 43:03
  don't have skins? A default.
• 43:05
  Default. Yeah, it's default and I need
• 43:07
  left and I went. The fuck?
• 43:11
  What do I do? I will say I did spend, I, I've
• 43:15
  actually spent quite a bit of not a quite a bit, but a decent
• 43:18
  chunk of change in Fortnite just 'cause I used to play it a lot
• 43:21
  with my kids. So like I'd get a pass and work
• 43:24
  through the pass with him or whatever.
• 43:25
  But but like. Yeah, yeah, no, it fucking
• 43:28
  sucks, dude. I, I, I I'm a sucker for skins
• 43:31
  too. I'm going to be really honest.
• 43:32
  Like Marvel Rivals has me. Oh, that's got.
• 43:34
  You and it's called has. Me.
• 43:37
  Your thing? Yeah, yeah.
• 43:38
  Marvel's my fucking thing. But boy oh boy, it has me right
• 43:43
  by the nut sack. They love to see you coming,
• 43:45
  just like like Trauma. Trauma loves to see me.
• 43:49
  Yeah, we all have our fucking weakness, right?
• 43:53
  Bro can't help it, cannot help it.
• 43:55
  If you put anything spawn related in front of me, it's
• 43:59
  coming home. Yeah.
• 44:02
  Like it has to, Yeah, dude, for me, man, those are some of the
• 44:06
  trends that I'm really seeing that I'm really not.
• 44:08
  I'm either digging a lot, I'm looking back and I'm like, dude,
• 44:12
  like this is the problem here. Like microtransactions,
• 44:16
  streamers, fucking live services, dude.
• 44:20
  And it's just like, that's only like a microcosm of the problems
• 44:25
  in the industry. If you want to get big, you can
• 44:28
  be like, OK, well every studio is making a ton of money off
• 44:30
  microtransactions itself, not the game.
• 44:34
  But people are still losing their jobs, right?
• 44:37
  If you want to talk about a trend, that's what.
• 44:39
  But like. It's a huge fucking.
• 44:40
  Trend that's that is such a that is an episode all in and of
• 44:45
  itself that I would actually have to spend half the week
• 44:48
  studying to get my facts completely right to then talk
• 44:52
  about these companies and how they fuck their people over
• 44:55
  because I don't want to sound like an asshole.
• 44:59
  Yeah. And even yeah, that, that that's
• 45:02
  a fucking yeah. That's a beehive.
• 45:04
  That's a tough situation, right? And and it's, that's
• 45:09
  unfortunately the worst trend in a, in a landscape where we
• 45:14
  already have a lot of bad trends.
• 45:16
  I didn't want to point out essentially like kind of the
• 45:20
  give a little bit of a not necessarily closing remark
• 45:24
  because I don't really feel I feel like I talked in circles a
• 45:27
  touch on this. But I think most of the artistic
• 45:30
  trends, the things where we're trying out, you know, voxel art
• 45:34
  or low Poly or pixel art or one of my favorites that I've seen
• 45:39
  in recent years is like the Octopath Traveler where it's
• 45:42
  that two DHD with like that you still have a shed like it looks
• 45:47
  so good, like I. Walk looks like that.
• 45:50
  Yeah, like, I love these artistic trends.
• 45:53
  I love things like The Night is Grey, where they're going back
• 45:57
  to a old school point and click. Like, I love those kinds of
• 46:02
  things that are not necessarily leaning on the nostalgia factor,
• 46:06
  but they're just kind of going back to what they know, right?
• 46:09
  The people making these games are probably our fucking age,
• 46:12
  and they probably played these games when they were younger.
• 46:14
  And like, I love this game. I want to do something like
• 46:17
  that. I like those trends, whereas the
• 46:23
  the trends in gaming of trying to constantly chase this, this
• 46:27
  hamster wheel of fucking oh, battle Royals.
• 46:31
  Oh, we got to do this now we're. Extraction now.
• 46:34
  And yeah, like the extraction shooter.
• 46:36
  Yeah, again, we've talked about that, right?
• 46:37
  Marathon should not be a fucking extraction shooter.
• 46:40
  It should be. A player experience.
• 46:42
  Or even a Destiny like thing, right?
• 46:44
  Something like that would have worked so well for the world,
• 46:47
  for your storytelling. You don't tell a story in a
• 46:49
  fucking extraction shooter. You can I guess.
• 46:52
  They're saying it's possible. Yeah, fuck them.
• 46:55
  They they. Yeah, after playing that, no.
• 46:59
  Back to the drawing board, baby. But those kinds of trends are
• 47:03
  the trends that get old because what happens is these companies
• 47:06
  see one successful game in that end or in that that market, that
• 47:11
  niche market, whatever it may be.
• 47:12
  And then it may blow up, right? And then it takes five years for
• 47:16
  them to put out a game because development takes forever.
• 47:20
  And then five years. Look at look at how many battle
• 47:23
  royales we got in 2021. Yeah.
• 47:27
  Like give give or take five years after Fortnight really
• 47:31
  fucking blew up, right? Give or take when fucking pub G
• 47:35
  really blew. Up Well, yeah, Pub G was really
• 47:37
  the the catalyst for it and then Fortnight got massive and and so
• 47:41
  everybody's like we have to make a battle Royale now.
• 47:43
  So then we got that really bad Battlefield 1.
• 47:46
  We've got I mean, we have war Zone, which really holds its
• 47:49
  own, I think, But that's again, the people who are buying the
• 47:53
  Maddens, the Call of Duty, and that's the two games they
• 47:56
  purchased for a year. We had AI had a whole
• 47:58
  conversation in the the Discord about that today of like.
• 48:01
  The normies. Yeah, the the, the fucking
• 48:03
  normies. And that is the vast majority of
• 48:05
  people who play games like whether you like it or not, then
• 48:08
  that's what it is. And that's why it sells like
• 48:10
  crazy and they buy all the fucking whatever, right.
• 48:14
  But it's but yeah, it's this, this trend chasing mentality
• 48:23
  that these execs have at these companies.
• 48:25
  It doesn't get them anywhere because they end up spending a
• 48:28
  bunch of money to develop a game that is five years too late to
• 48:31
  the fucking party. Yeah.
• 48:33
  Do something like a. Marathon.
• 48:35
  Yeah, oh Marathon is way too late to the party to be in a
• 48:38
  fucking extraction shooter. I feel like the day the heyday
• 48:41
  of extraction shooters has come and gone.
• 48:44
  And people are already done with Tarkov and it's not even
• 48:46
  fucking. Have you finished yet?
• 48:49
  Well, yeah, that's a whole nother ball game there.
• 48:51
  Fuck Nikita. Yeah, anyways, yeah, I know.
• 48:55
  I I like a lot of the artsy stuff.
• 48:58
  I do like to experimental things.
• 49:01
  Yeah, I mean do like, I love that shit and I want to see more
• 49:05
  of it. I don't want to see the same low
• 49:08
  Poly things. Right.
• 49:09
  Like if you're going to do it, do it.
• 49:11
  Awesome. Yeah.
• 49:13
  Like do something that you want to do.
• 49:15
  That's what I like seeing when people create things they want
• 49:17
  to create. But some of these other trends
• 49:21
  we discussed, man, are just fucking killing it for me.
• 49:23
  And it bums me out because then we have to get on the show and
• 49:25
  we have to be negative while we're also trying to be
• 49:27
  positive, right? It's like fuck me man, I just
• 49:31
  like video games and you are fucking it all up.
• 49:34
  Yeah, I think any games have it right, and I think AAA games
• 49:38
  have just become soulless for the most part.
• 49:41
  They feel like that, dude, But then you get those, like, really
• 49:46
  like diamonds in the roughs, like Larian.
• 49:49
  Yeah, where it's like, thank God you're here.
• 49:52
  And then like I'll say for Valve, look at Deadlock now,
• 49:55
  like that big update came out, everyone's like, OK, keep
• 49:59
  cooking. I keep forgetting that game
• 50:02
  exists. Yes, that's what they want you
• 50:05
  to do. That's what Valve wants you to
• 50:08
  do. But no, it had a huge update and
• 50:09
  everyone loved it. Everyone loved the the update.
• 50:13
  So it's like there's there's these studios that do exist that
• 50:16
  you know, we're going to continue to pave the way.
• 50:18
  Remedy yeah, FBC fire breaks. Not good.
• 50:22
  But Alan Wake is an example of a fucking game that shouldn't be
• 50:28
  fun. Almost it just fucking is
• 50:31
  because the story and just how important events are in that
• 50:36
  game and just how like it is in your face and just fun.
• 50:39
  Death Stranding is a game that the first one was going to bring
• 50:42
  that up, Loved or hated. But even then, like there's a
• 50:46
  certain amount of respect that comes with it too.
• 50:48
  Like even if you don't like it, like you got to be like this
• 50:51
  dude fucking went for it. Like he, he did the fucking
• 50:55
  thing and he did it again. And it's weird as shit.
• 50:59
  And it is better than the first weird shit thing.
• 51:01
  Yeah, like it's the strangest fucking concept for a game
• 51:05
  you've ever heard in your entire life.
• 51:06
  And he fucking went for it. And people love it.
• 51:08
  Like for the most part, right? I love.
• 51:11
  Death training. Yeah, so it's like, that's the
• 51:13
  kind of shit I I want to see. I miss in going through all
• 51:19
  these older games and everything recently.
• 51:22
  I'm like tiptoeing around what I'm doing, even though everyone
• 51:24
  knows what I'm doing. Like seeing games on there that
• 51:29
  I'm like, yeah, like, that was a cool new idea.
• 51:32
  This was a cool new idea. Like that.
• 51:36
  That's the stuff that really does make me appreciate older
• 51:40
  games, even though I don't go back and play them as often as I
• 51:42
  would like to. It's it's everything.
• 51:45
  It was a new landscape. It was a, hey, push it, See how
• 51:49
  far we can go, see what we can do what, what works, what
• 51:52
  doesn't work. It was creative and outside of
• 51:56
  the indie space, like that's gone because companies can't
• 52:00
  afford to make the risk. They, they can't, like we talked
• 52:03
  about that on the last episode, They, they cannot afford to put
• 52:06
  out a game that doesn't hit because they spent 200, fucking
• 52:10
  $1,000,000 on it. Right.
• 52:11
  Yeah. It sucks.
• 52:14
  It's a, it's a bad landscape that I'm not going to say we
• 52:17
  have made, but the the gaming as a whole has come to because it
• 52:22
  is more business than it is entertainment anymore.
• 52:25
  Yes, yeah. And I mean, hopefully one day
• 52:29
  it'll change. There are a lot of cool things
• 52:31
  coming. I mean, Big mode from Donkey is
• 52:34
  just an awesome thing. I love seeing it.
• 52:38
  And there's just tons of shit. You got new blood, you got Night
• 52:41
  Dive, you got big mode of the biggest one out of the mall,
• 52:45
  obviously is Valve. But like, Valve is doing cool
• 52:47
  shit again. And fucking Larian.
• 52:49
  I cannot wait to see what Larian does next.
• 52:52
  The studio behind Expedition 33, that was their first game and it
• 52:56
  was the most is one of the most loved games of this year.
• 52:59
  The director or the the writer for that game?
• 53:02
  That was her first video game she has ever worked on.
• 53:05
  And it's about to be a movie. It's incredible.
• 53:09
  Things and things can and will go, right?
• 53:13
  Yes, if we just let it. Yep.
• 53:16
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• 53:21
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