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S4 E3: Beane Diggs A Hole?!?!?! · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen, The Crazy you can see you breath out in the Lake Effect,
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We're so glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo bills and
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NFL content again today, and as always, these are my Bill's thoughts said
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out loud. It's so ridiculous two saying sick the show. I can let
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us. Where's would you want to be? All right, let's get straight
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to it. It's crazy because I I've just got a lot to say today
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tonight, and I have been struggling with the words to come up with.
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My notes look like craziness today. But it's funny because you know, my
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co hosts and I have always said that. Listen, man, we're here
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for each other. We're gonna support each other and kind of get ready to
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Are you p c z y k A little bit under the weather today?
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I let the crew DT. I know you're gonna plug through for me
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and get it done, man, but I hope you feel better man.
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How you doing? Man? How let the crew? Hey, we're all
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right? What's up Nicol City? How we doing? Rob? I mean
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we're out here. We're gonna go through with damn. It's it's like off
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season might get a little boring, and then the bills. The bills don't
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make it boring for us, Rob, I mean, we're right back in
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it. The biggest blockbuster news you really could could get in the off season
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before the draft. So uh, let's let's unpack it. Oh man,
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I mean, just holy holy crap. Man, Like I when I saw
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the dudes come through yesterday, I saw your text come through and shout out
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to Josh Kouel and my man AO would down there in Florida and like everybody's
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just like, you know, blowing up my phone and I'm like, what
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is going on? What are they talking about? And when I saw the
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the thing come through the ticker on ESPN, I really honestly couldn't believe it.
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I thought that we were definitely at least a year away from this even
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being a topic of conversation, to be honest with you, DT, and
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it was something where I mean, I'm sorry man that the got their wish.
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I mean, there's a lot of stuff on Diggs hate out there.
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There's a lot of people that did not like him. We talked about it
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on our episodes a few seasons ago. We talked about the miseducation of stuff
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on Diggs. We talked about the fact that his intensity, his passion sometimes
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rubs people the wrong way. They don't know how to deal with it.
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And I mean, it's it's crazy, DT. They pulled the plug on
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the whole stuff on Diggs experiment. Four years in Buffalo, three time,
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voted captain by his peers and and he's gone, He's out the door.
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I mean it's crazy because the production was there, the chemistry with Josh Allen
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was there, on the field, and now it's a situation where there's so
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many different things to unpack, Like you talked about, so many different things
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to try to get answers to. But I'm just still stuck from yesterday on,
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Like I cannot believe that they traded him. I am, I'm beyond
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flabbergac about the fact that they pulled the plug on him. I'm well,
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I'm shocked. Yeah, I mean, BROB, you're talking. This is
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something that we shot out, you and I shot out just to you know,
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the because the only real argument to this was, oh, you know,
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he's not happy in Buffalo, and it's like, well, it doesn't
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matter. He's under contract three more years. The money is too crazy to
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ever move him. Nobody's gonna you know, nobody's gonna take the money.
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It's gonna be it's gonna be all sorts of of hassle to even get that
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done. So it's impossible to even talk like that. That's why we're kind
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of shooting it down so so much of the beginning of this offseason, you
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know, and I know, you know you said all the time with Steven
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A, you know, talking about that and you saying no to him and
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and I agree, it was it seemed virtually impossible, you know, to
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move stuff on digs, uh, until it wasn't, you know. So
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that's that's why it makes it really interesting. And that's why you know,
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it wasn't teeing up for this. It wasn't Uh, there wasn't any precursor
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for this. It was just kind of the rumors that we've been dealing with
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for a couple of years of all he wants out, yeah, yeah,
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not really, he doesn't, and that all of a sudden, he's gone.
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So the impossible happened, which which makes this even harder to understand.
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Yeah, and it was the impossible happen. It's also in conjunction with the
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fact that I didn't I didn't see this coming DT from a necessity standpoint,
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and we'll get into that more tonight. But I thought that this was a
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situation where, you know, you could ride this out, like I'm I'm
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what did we just talk about as season four opened up and we had Scott
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Reid from the k Gun Report on, and I was talking about how I'm
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singularly focused on twenty twenty four and I want to get over that hump.
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I want to get a super Bowl Berth. I'll let the chips fall where
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they may after we get to the super Bowl. But I want to represent
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the conference in the super Bowl, and I'm just so supremely focused on that
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and singularly focused. I can't believe that they didn't just make this man come
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to work this season, Like, was it that fractured where they couldn't make
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this work? I have no idea how this this really happened, to be
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honest with you. Now, obviously there's speculation that that Steffan asked out of
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town, and we'll get into that, and you know, I understand that,
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but he's also under contract DT for a few more years. You can
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make him come to work. I'm sorry, He's a professional. I have
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to believe the being and the powers that be knew that this guy would not
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make an ass out of himself, would be the Ultimates pro like he always
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has been here in Buffalo and come to work if he needed to come to
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work. I just feel like this was the cop out, and I really
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hope it wasn't over tweets and all this other bullshit because that would really make
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me angry, because again, the production was there for him DT and it
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was there for this offense, and we need him quite frankly, right now.
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We need him. We have nothing else to replace this guy right now,
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and that scares me. I just didn't see that it was a necessity
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right now. Again. I thought maybe in a year coming into the twenty
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twenty five season, we would maybe have a discussion about it based on this
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productivity this past season that's coming up for twenty twenty four. But I didn't
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think that there was any type of panic button or any emergency that needed to
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happen where you had to get this guy off your team. I'm confused.
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I'm angry still. They talk about the stages of grief. I'm still in
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anger, man. I am not pass it. I'm not over it yet.
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I really am not. It just doesn't make sense in that regard,
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right, So so you say, like, if it was, you know,
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something serious and the drama boiled over and me just had to had to
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let loose on that, that then that's not good either, because then there's
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no plan. Right So I think I'm in the camp of I'm really just
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hoping there's a plan. And this was all kind of premeditated and it was
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almost a fact of something like the gamesmanship of other teams. Nobody really ever
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saw this coming. So being kind of slid in and made this happen.
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It has this this ace upist sleeve in this plan, because that's really the
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only thing I can, you know, hang my hat on that this is
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okay. All the other situations on this don't really make sense. Like you
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said, I mean, even if you're worried about him aging, he's under
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contract, you could have made one more year and then and then moved on
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from him and and did the same thing you did this year. Next year
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it'll be it would be it would have been the same thing. Granted they
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get some money whatever. But the only thing I can I'm past the agers
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aged now, but the only thing I have, like I'm putting all my
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chips in, is this was premeditated and it was a plan. It wasn't
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just because he wanted out and they had to push it. Yeah, I
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mean, I don't know. You know, I do believe that you know,
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he thought that he needed, you know, being needed to move them.
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I do think that I will acknowledge it that we keep it real here
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at nicol City Crew. So I do think that you know, there's a
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part of stuff on Diggs that wanted out for whatever reason. And I think
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that I pushed back on the fact again that you had to do it because
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of the fact that I felt like Brandon Bean is in a situation where he
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is his part of his job is to massage problems. Part of his job
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as general manager is to make sure that you know, not everybody's going to
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get along. We've talked about that. We know that they're not going to
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be all in lockstep in a fifty three man locker room. However, his
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part of his job is to make sure that relationships are are are fostered,
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relationships are growing, and if there's a problem between seventeen and fourteen, then
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it's his responsibility to make sure that they come together and they squashed this and
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they figure that out. I could just this shit was done last off season
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when you know, they had the whole fiasco and we talked about it.
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It was two weeks after the miseducation of Stephan Dick's episode was the whole you
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know, off season workouts and he comes and then you know the Garmott tells
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him to go home and all the other garbage, and I just I am
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I'm really angry, and I'm looking to blame to place blame because I wanted
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him on the team next year for sure, and I and Josh Allen is
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on the mat and cover behind me because of Stefan Diggs as much as it
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is because of Josh Allen's you know, career assent and his hard work.
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And we've already talked about that. We've given seventeen his flowers. We understand
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that. You know, it was almost a symbiotic relationship. They made each
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other better, They brought out the best in one another, and I'm down
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with that. I'm cool with that, but I don't want to, you
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know, throw salt on stuff on Diggs. It act like he didn't matter.
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I thought that Brandon Bean, part of his job is to make sure
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that if there's any type of you know, any type of strife, DT,
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I'm sorry, that's part of your job description is to make sure that
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you iron that shit out. You get these guys in a room together and
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figure out what's going on. It can't be targets, it can't be yards.
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I just saw that he had the most catches over a four year stretch,
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so we know that it's not that we know that he's obsessed with winning
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DT. We know that he is maniacal about winning. If there's a problem
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that's going on, I think that it's part of Brandon Bean's job, and
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to a less certain degree, you know, Sean McDermott as well, it's
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part of their job to smooth stuff over. I understand that if he wants
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out, he wants out again. He's under contract. It's not like he
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had any leverage. I don't know why you don't smooth something out with this
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guy and then make him come to work. I just I just don't.
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I just think it's a cop out. And I'm not going to let anybody
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off the hook, not not today or for a while. I'm pretty I'm
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pretty pissed till I'm not letting anybody off the hook. Well, then,
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why didn't they do this last year? You know, in mini camp,
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you know what, when he didn't show up and all this, Like if
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they were going to pull the trigger like this, why didn't they do it
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last year when this was happening in the drama, you know or whatever before
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that. That's that's why it's like tough for me to say, like why
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was this the breaking point? Like, what what happens? Man? You
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know this offseason more than you know that there was a lot I feel like
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hot or meant when when kind of the talks and he yells at Josh or
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whatever the case was after the you know or whatever, that was right,
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But that felt like it was a lot higher drama than today's drama. Not
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today, but before he got traded drama. So why if they were gonna
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do something like this, why didn't they do it? Then? That's why
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I argue the fact that like I don't think it was that Maybe that was
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a factor, but I don't think it was the full reason, Like let's
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go, we got to move this guy, because if they were quick to
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pull the trigger on something like that with you know, McDermott be and hard
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nose and stubborn him as we've talked about, and you know, and and
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and whatnot, Like why didn't they do it last year? Was it okay,
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well we'll try it out and then we go through a season and nothing
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got better? Like I don't know, like but it just I just die
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on the hill of like it can't be he wanted out because if that was
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the case, he wouldn't they Why didn't they do it then last less fer
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I mean, you know, I'll we'll keep it really well, we'll be
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fair. You know, I think that you know, Brandon Bean was asked
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directly, if you know, he asked for a trade, he wouldn't answer
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it. Some people have talked about how he's wanted he wants to you know,
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ensure relationships for the future with you know, Diggs's agent, and and
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and that makes sense that that's plausible. So if he did ask out again,
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I'm just in the camp of you know, there's more work to be
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done. You know. He was quick to tell you yesterday Brandon Bean was
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that it's April, it's not September. We're not playing games right now.
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That way, he was using that in the defense of the move and and
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how we can still make up ground. Well, if that's the case,
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then you had more time to work stuff out. So even if he came
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to you and said that he wants out for whatever reason, then you still
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got more time again to bring this guy to the table, bring seventeen to
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the table and figure something out. But the fact that you just let him
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go for you know, for pennies, and I understand that the second round
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pick next year is is not nothing, But boy, this it feels like
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nothing today, it really does. It feels like it's, you know,
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like we got you know, Bamboozo for sure, and I'm just not a
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part of that energy. Just not with that there, Rob what say that
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if he did come to Bean and say he wanted out, Okay, why
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why would he do that? Not winning? They know they're not whinning.
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He doesn't see a path to us getting to a super Bowl would be my
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most distinct dancer. Okay. And then so my rebuttal to that of if
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I'm you know, Brandon Bean and Steffan Diggs approaches me and says I need
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out of here. We can't win here. What does stuff on Diggs know
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about winning more than anybody on the Bills right now, especially Josh Allen?
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What does he know about winning more than Josh Allen does? Where's what what
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secret? You know? He in Minnesota they didn't win. They thinking of
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the Minnesota miracle they went to the title game, but same means he did
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in the Bills. What does he know about winning more than anybody else?
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So if he's coming to Brandon Bean saying I can't win here, you gotta
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move me? What do you know about winning? So like that's why I
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just can't like, it's not I can't wrap my head that he did that,
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because it just it did he really have that attitude of like, we
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can't win here? Well? Then where else? Do you think? In
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Kansas City? That's literally the over the other place you could go? Yeah,
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I don't know, cause it doesn't make sense to fill that void.
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If you came and said we're not winning to Brandon Bean and okay, well
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then where do you want to go? What do you know about winning more
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than Josh Allen knows about when they know the same, they've been to the
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same, you know, So that I just can't get my head around that
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he did that, That he approached and said he wanted out. That's another
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reason it just doesn't make sense. All right, Well, I mean we'll
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continue to dig into it. You know, this is going to be an
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episode dedicated to Stefan Diggs once again, I've got no problem doing it.
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He was my you know, my favorite Buffalo Bill since he arrived again.
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The energy, the passion that he played with it just kind of it just
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was everything that embodies what you want. And I think again that that was
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the reason that Josh Allen is on that man cover behind me is because of
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the fact that he elevated the play. He demanded more. Dion Dawkins said
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that he held people accountable on the offense. Specifically, he held everyone accountable
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he raised the level of play. I think that that that type of player
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on your team is just invaluable. It's just something that you can't really replicate.
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And that's really one of the main reasons why I was so upset when
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he would get slander and hate and then people want to you know, dig
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in, you know, try to figure out what his tweets mean and all
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this other useless exercises. I thought that there was always back to winning for
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me. I always thought that it was back to winning. Had we won
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more or had we had something more to show for it than thirteen seconds.
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I always felt like everybody would be okay with it. Everybody, including Digs,
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would be okay with them. There was no type of you know,
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riffs or anything that couldn't be fixed if winning winning cures all and I thought
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that, you know, I just wish that we had a little bit more
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to show for the four years that we had with him. Now the Bills
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are making a big time gamble DT as we transition a little bit. You
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know, I don't want anybody to be fool by the fact that your all
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world quarterback had to sign off on this. Okay, so let let's we'll
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say it again and then you and I may disagree on it. But you
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know, Brandon Bean even admitted yesterday that seventeen knew what was going on ahead
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of time, and that you know, he was made aware of the situation
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that it could be turning in that way, and that a trade could be
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coming, and it might have been intimate. Listen, you know seventeen signed
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off on this. Whether you want to believe it or not, you can't
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tell me that if Josh Allen said, wait, what you guys are thinking
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about trading Steph Diggs, No fucking way, do not let him go.
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I love him even if I don't love him. It doesn't even matter professionally.
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Professionally, I need him on my side. I need him in the
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foxhole with me. If Josh Allen stands up on a table and screams that,
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I don't think that there's any possible way that we are here talking about
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this on this episode tonight, that stuff on Diggs was traded. I just
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don't. If you want to try to convince me otherwise, you're gonna have
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to make a damn good case, and please join us in the comment line
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in the comment section, excuse me tonight. We'd love to hear from everybody
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in your opinions as well, and we've got some people that we're going to
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be getting to as well. But DT, I mean I am. I'm
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not gonna let anybody pull the wool over my eyes and let me believe that
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that Josh Allen didn't have something to do with at least signing off of it.
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Maybe maybe Digs did one out, but Josh Allen could definitely buck that
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and say, hey man, no, I need him. Put me in
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a room with them, let me call them, let me fly out to
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him, whatever the case may be. I mean, it's it's April,
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right, That's what everybody wants to keep telling me. It's April. It's
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not September. Let me figure it out. Let me go talk to my
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wide receiver one. I can't lose him. I need him right now.
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That couldn't have happened or he would still be on the team. In my
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opinion, I think that's obvious. And then you know, here comes the
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flip flop with my thought as we get this all you know off our chest.
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Josh has proven that he has poll in the organization, right with offensive
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coordinators, with with bringing back Cole Beasley and John Brown when you know when
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sided Kyle Allen. He's proved he has poll in the organization with things like
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that. He likes it. It happens. So, yes, if they
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came to Digs and some are or if they came to Alan, some were
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trading Digs and he said dull, they probably we would like to think they
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wouldn't. So if he is saying yes, okay to trade him, okay,
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what is what is that saying? What does that saying about it,
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let's say about your quarterback. Is that saying that he is soft, the
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drama was too much for him to handle. Or is it saying he thinks
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they don't need him? Okay, okay. I keep hearing people say that
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they don't need him. I keep I keep hearing people say that all we're
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they're doing this, they're doing the Kansas City Chiefs when they got rid of
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Tyreek Hill and they're there you know, Josh Allen is at a level now
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where he's trying to prove that, you know, he doesn't need Stefan Diggs.
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Why in that in the ham Sandwich is my father would say, recipes,
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Why in the ham Sandwich would you want to take away weapons from Josh
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Allen? What sense does that make? So even if Josh Allen thinks that
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he has now graduated above the most successful duo that he's ever had in his
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career, why would you co sign on to that? Why would you let
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him think that? Why would you want why would you want that? Well,
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then that's why I think, like they stated earlier, there has to
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be that plan that being set out. Hey, listen, here's the deal.
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We're gonna move town Biggs, but we're gonna do X, Y and
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Z. And that was good enough for Josh Allen to say, that's better.
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That's man. But like you said, I if he came and demanded
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the trade, then they did have a plan, but it was that.
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But then it would be well then force him to force him to stay.
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And if josh al was completely blindsided by this, he would be like,
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no, you gotta stay. So that's what they came to Josh Allen said,
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this is this is my player. We're doing this. We're getting rid
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of Diggs X y Z. We're either moving up in the draft or somebody
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we got. We're gonna go get t Higgins or whatever the case is.
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We're gonna go get Brandon Ayuk. That's this is how we're gonna do it.
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But we gotta get rid of one four to do that. Well.
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I mean, this is a massive gamble. Bill's mafia. This is a
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massive gamble. That draft pick has to be a home run from right off
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the bat, and and and and again. I'm when I'm talking about this,
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all of my rhetoric tonight is gonna be focused on next year, because
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you you can definitely tell me, and I'll definitely even get on board again.
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I started the show off by saying twenty twenty five and beyond, I
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can get on board and say that this might have been the best move for
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the Buffalo Bills going forward, for the future, not for twenty twenty four.
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And I'm not going to be able to get on that train with anybody
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else to say that, oh no, that this was you know, this
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is the best position. I heard Brandon Bean again yesterday talking about how they're
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not taking a step back, and anybody then knows him, knows that he's
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not giving in and things like that, and that he you know, they're
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not trying to take a step back, they're not trying to be worse.
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I get that that's what he's supposed to say, but it almost feels like
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they are just taking a medicine year. They're just swallowing their medicine. They're
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taking, you know, all the dead cap and they're doing all the different
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things that they have to do. They release all the plethorough of guys that
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they released a few weeks ago, and it's almost like they are in a
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mode where they are taking their medicine right now. And I understand that for
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the future. I understand that you got to keep your books clean, but
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I do think that you should stay competitive. I do think that there's no
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way, and Brandon being acknowledged that there's no way that we're a better team
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today with Steph Diggs off of it. There's just there's nobody that can convince
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me that we're a better team. And this is a massive gamble that draft
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pick has to hit. Whether it's at twenty eight, I see Thomas takes
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sports. We love we love man, Ryan Thomas. He's talking about,
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you know, do we draft up, do we do something different in the
21:11
draft and move up to get somebody. I don't care if it's at twenty
21:14
eight, I don't care where it is in the draft. That kid has
21:17
to be a hit right off the bat. And talk about immense pressure.
21:21
Talk about, you know, like a rookie coming into the league with you
21:23
know, one of the all world quarterbacks, top two, top three in
21:26
the league. He's going to have to come in. I don't care if
21:30
it's my elite neighbors. I don't care if it's Roma Dune Say. I
21:32
don't care who it is, Brian Thomas Junior, aighty Mitchell. It doesn't
21:36
matter. All of those guys are gonna have to come in whoever they that
21:40
draft, and they're gonna have to be like hits, like right off the
21:41
bat. And I think that's that scares the hell out of me, man,
21:45
that scares me. I'm sorry. One of the main reasons, yeah,
21:48
because one of the main reasons why we did the stuff on Dick's trade
21:51
to begin with was the fact that we wanted an own commodity. We wanted
21:53
to know what we were getting. We knew that we were getting a talented,
21:56
passionate receiver who obviously upset in Minnesota that he wasn't getting as many targets
22:02
and that the team looked like it was going to be more run heavy.
22:03
We go, Brandon Bean pulls off a great move, one of the greatest
22:07
trades besides Coordinatior's Biscuit Bennett in the history of the Buffalo Bills. One of
22:11
the greatest trades ever was for Stefan Diggs. And you see that the fruit
22:15
that it bore. And I mean that's why we did it, was because
22:18
the fact that we knew what we were getting. You don't know what you're
22:22
getting with a rookie. Everybody can say they want Justin Jefferson. They don't
22:23
know if they're getting Justin Jefferson. They don't know if they're getting another bust.
22:27
They have no idea and that that that scares the hell out of me.
22:30
Dt It it scares me, man, period. Man. I am
22:33
worried about twenty twenty four. Officially, Granted, the last couple of years,
22:37
the receiver classes have been stout right. These dudes have come in and
22:41
produced, but it is still you know, a massive gamble. And then
22:45
if if you do something like trade up big to get one of those big
22:48
guys and they don't work out, you're behind the eight ball, you know
22:51
past twenty four, you're behind the eight ball twenty five, twenty six,
22:53
twenty seven, but you don't have first round and sick a round picks,
22:56
right, So, which is why I'm not in Yeah, And so that's
23:03
why it this. I just keep going back to this plan like it's the
23:06
only thing that that put me to sleep last night, and that's the only
23:08
thing that's gonna put me to sleep tonight, Rob, is what's this plan?
23:11
Like this plan I've I've made up in my head that Brandon Bean has
23:17
has to happen, you know, to have a proven guy or go up
23:21
and get somebody that is proven, like as close to proven as you could
23:25
get in the draft of liking a dude Jay Harrison or Elie Famers, Like,
23:30
there's no if we don't do any of that. I'm completely furious with
23:34
this, with this situation, right because we did, like the the irony
23:40
of this, right Rob, the irony of we we literally traded our first
23:44
round pick to get the proven guy and step On Diggs and then it pans
23:48
out. It couldn't have been other than a ring. It couldn't have been
23:52
better, other than a ring. It couldn't have been better. And then
23:55
when it's still on our plate, you know, we throw it out.
23:57
So I get, you can't do the same things over and over again.
24:02
You gotta progress, you gotta be But it's just it's fishy fish. He
24:07
had football left in him, man, He had football left in him,
24:08
man, And I just saw that it came down that, you know tenth,
24:11
you know the tennis. The Houston Texans, excuse me, they wiped
24:15
out the last three years of his contract just recently, right before we went
24:18
live, so he can be a free agent again. And so it's crazy
24:21
to me because he knows he's betting on himself, and when is he never
24:23
bet on himself like he's always betting on himself. So I just don't like
24:27
the fact that Brandon Bean gave him the contract extension last season and then or
24:32
two seasons ago, and then all of a sudden he's ready to trade him
24:34
regardless if he asked for a trade again. Because of the contract. You
24:40
can't just say trade me. It's not the NBA. It's not a situation
24:44
where he can just throw a hissy fit or he literally will lose money.
24:47
So that's what people need to understand, is that we had the leverage.
24:49
Stefan Diggs did not have leverage. And and I harkened back to the other
24:53
episodes that we've done on him. We know he's a professional, we know
24:56
he's a pros pro. If he has to come the work, he will
25:00
come to work. It was funny because I was listening to WGR this ward
25:03
and Jeremy White was reminding everybody what we always talk about that like this guy
25:07
is approach po. He doesn't care. He always asked the beading, why
25:10
do you guys care? If I'm happy? What the what the hell does
25:11
that matter? If I'm happy, I'm gonna still come out and do my
25:15
job. I'm gonna still come out and perform because That's what I'm paid to
25:18
do. So like this this whole notion that he was gonna be a male
25:21
contender, that he's or he's upset, or that you want to read into
25:23
his tweets and stuff like that, like get a life, Like figure out
25:26
something else to do with your time other than dissect this man's tweets because I,
25:30
if I swear to God, DT if if Brandon being those and those
25:34
guys the brass, you know, played into that bullshit of tweets. Don't
25:40
tell me that Steffan Dixon is not a buffalo bill because of tweets and stuff
25:42
like that. He didn't say anything wrong. He's never said anything wrong.
25:47
They said that the other day that it was you know, he said,
25:48
you sure like that. That's the whole point of the matting cover like he's
25:52
trying to just he's shedding light on what we've always talked about, DT,
25:55
and that is Josh Allen would not be Josh Allen without me, and I
25:57
wouldn't be me without Josh. And we've always talked about that. I just
26:02
don't like it. There's something wrong with it. There's something wrong with the
26:04
timing because of the contract. They gave him a contract DT, he was
26:07
not a pending free agent or anything like that. You tell this man to
26:11
come to work, he's gonna come to work, and he's gonna even he
26:14
might have even come in with a bigger chip on his shoulder because he asked
26:15
for something, didn't get it, and now he's really trying to prove a
26:18
point. I just I don't know, man, I don't know. I
26:21
think this was more of one thing we haven't touched on tonight is money,
26:26
right of the fact of like, okay, he you know, which contradicts
26:32
itself at the end of this point, But he was it Was it the
26:34
drava blowing over and the Bills can handle it moved. Was it Diggs coming
26:38
to that but saying he wants moved, or was it the Bills saying all
26:42
right, this is better for our future, We're gonna do it. Or
26:45
was it the Caps tell you this as it ever has been under Bean.
26:51
He goes to Diggs and says, we got to move your money around,
26:53
and Dick says, no, you know, and then that they don't have
26:57
to ask permission for that, though they don't have. But that doesn't make
27:02
sense because they lose, they trade them and still got to pay the thirty
27:04
one billion dead cap to not have them on the team eight million that money
27:11
was already accounted for then and then go into next year with some rumor or
27:15
whatever the case is, so like, so that's I'd say that's eliminated.
27:19
I'd say the money things eliminated because we didn't go for it. We didn't
27:22
save anybody, we lost money, right, So that's got to be an
27:26
elimination. So it either comes down to the Bills were sick of it,
27:30
sick of it, of this faith. That's what I'm saying. That's what
27:36
I'm saying. You and I this this fake narrative. You know, this
27:40
faith narrative that that you and I are hate. But it's unfortunate that majority
27:45
of the fan base and who knows if it's if it's leaked into the building,
27:51
you know, see and feel this faith bs of this diva that we've
27:56
had episodes and episodes to you know, decline. It's even that Diggs coming
28:02
to them or the Bills having a future plan and this is just part of
28:04
the play. It's it's only those three options. And respectfully, Marty forty
28:10
one one four three, I disagree man, Like I mean it says,
28:12
you know, he's talking about how you know, Allan did everything to make
28:15
him happy and not everything clearly, and and it wasn't anyone's fault other than
28:19
Diggs. Listen, I understand that that Diggs, you know, rubs people
28:23
the wrong way. I understand that he is, he's passionate, he's very
28:27
feisty. I understand all of that type of stuff. However, you can't
28:30
convince me that he's not a leader because his peers voted him a three time
28:34
captain. You can't convince me that he's not a baller because we've seen him
28:37
have crazy, crazy, crazy great games for Josh Allen and the offense.
28:41
You can't convince me that he is not respected by his teammates. You can't
28:45
convince me that he is a problem in the locker room. So because of
28:48
all those things that I have just stated, my problem is that what problem
28:52
could he possibly have with Josh Allen? What problem could he possibly have with
28:59
the direction of the team that you couldn't work out? Now, if it
29:00
was all about winning and it was all about trying to figure out a way
29:04
to get over that hump, then he's just as frustrated as we are.
29:08
And if we want to keep it real and keep it funky all the way,
29:11
I'm frustrated too, and I've talked about it at nauseam. How I
29:14
want to get over that hump. I think that our team has been better
29:17
and we should have more fruit on the tree than what the four years that
29:19
we've had and the show for it, something else to show for it.
29:22
Regardless of thirteen seconds, we still had a great team afterwards, and that
29:27
was a gut punch, and I admit that openly. However, it wasn't
29:32
over and we still had an opportunity these last couple of years. We talked
29:36
to Scott again from the cake of reporters said that he thought that the Bill
29:38
should have been in the super Bowl the last four years, and I understand
29:41
that's roads colored glasses to some. I think that we had an opportunity to
29:45
do something great and I just thought that if it's the only thing I can
29:48
think of is that he did not like the direction, and we talked about
29:52
that last year before OTA's was that maybe you know, he's going through a
29:56
situation where he wants to see the offense go in a different direction. They
29:59
asked him does he want call plays? He laughs at the media like,
30:00
I'm I'm a wide receiver, I'm not an offensive coordinator. I don't want
30:03
to call freaking plays. Like, are you guys crazy? They ask him
30:07
again, for the empty time, do you love Buffalo? He says,
30:10
I want to retire a Bill. I want to. You know, I
30:11
want to be here. I just can't. I can't put my finger on
30:14
anything dt other than the fact that he was upset about the direction of the
30:18
team and that he wanted to change the scenery, which again leads me back
30:22
to the point, and I want to I don't want to continue to beat
30:22
a dead horse. But he was under contract, and you know he's he's
30:26
got to he has to come to work where he doesn't get paid. So
30:29
it just it doesn't. So this doesn't matter for me, man. It
30:33
cuts it down right. We keep making pois, we keep cutting ourselves down
30:37
on him because if nothing does, this makes sense because if that's the case,
30:41
if that was the case, yeah, you can make them from the
30:44
work. But I'm on the camp of like, screw him at that point.
30:47
You know, if he's if he's not, if he's saying, if
30:49
he's saying, screw this, I don't like the way the offense is going.
30:52
But I'm not doing this, then all right, I'm cool with saying
30:56
by if that was the case, if he came and said that, I'm
30:59
cool with moving on from him, or he had nothing to do with it
31:04
and being said, you know, we got to keep it moving, and
31:08
it's just something has to happen big for me to validate, for me to
31:14
for me to not be on your level of upset that something needs needs to
31:18
happen for sure, because if nothing happens, then it was just straight up
31:22
then the writing is on the wall. We were pussies and let this,
31:26
let one four go. Yeah, I wouldn't wait, I had a little
31:29
drama. I would have told his ass to come to work and show up
31:32
and be there and be accountable because your teammates are looking forward to it,
31:36
and your teammates need you, you know, and and you know you I
31:37
see you, Ryan, you're talking about they thought that they could get something
31:40
replaceable, you know, replacement for younger, cheaper. You know, you
31:42
bet you damn well better, you know what I mean, Like at this
31:45
point in time, like it's it's now it's cutting not cutting time, like
31:48
you better and and Marty, I mean, I appreciate you being a part
31:52
of the show. I just I can't disagree more like you know, we
31:55
have gone through this at nauseum. Diggs did not make everything cryptic. He
31:59
is he is always said how he felt. He is all like the tweets
32:02
don't mean shit to be that doesn't mean anything to me. I'm not talking
32:06
about tweets and about catchup and about I'm ready for him down for whatever.
32:09
And this is like that. I don't read into any of that type of
32:12
stuff because he's a grown man with a life outside of football. We warned
32:15
you guys that these guys have a life outside of football. But he did
32:20
make statements. He did say he wanted to retire a bill, He did
32:22
say that he loves the organization. He did say all those types of things.
32:25
It's us insecure, it's us that want some type of confirmation daily.
32:30
He's not gonna give us confirmation daily and things like that. We're like the
32:32
ugly girlfriend that wants to do you love me? Do you love me?
32:35
Do you love me? Do you love me? Do you love me?
32:37
Like? Come on, man, Like I told you I love Joe?
32:39
Ass Like, how many times do I like to show you I love you?
32:42
I tell you I love you, I show you that I love you
32:44
with my performance? What else? Like how many times I have to tell
32:45
you I love you? That doesn't make any sense. So I appreciate you
32:49
being a part of the show. Barty. I couldn't disagree more. He
32:51
has told us that he wanted to retire a bill after he got that extension,
32:54
and then he told us again when he came to camp and he was
32:58
kicked out of practice and they tried to put it on him as very concerned
33:01
and lie on him. So that's we already talked about that. We won't
33:04
backtrack to McDermott bullshitting last year, but he's already stated exactly where he wanted
33:08
to be again the way that being talked in the press conference yesterday, I
33:13
am willing as a as a, as a Stefan Diggs backer, I am
33:15
willing to concede that. I feel like he definitely asked out. My only
33:21
pushback to that is that he had no leverage, So we don't have to
33:23
listen to them. This is not the v this is not the NBA.
33:27
You do not have to listen to his request. So, uh, that's
33:30
even worse exactly the league. If that gets around the league and the president,
33:37
I could just go to Brandon Bean and say, whatever the funk I
33:39
want, that's gonna happen, you know, Like so I really hope that's
33:44
not the case, right, But the point of glass half fole here,
33:47
right, Let's let's the eternal optimist and be and being optimist on this whole
33:52
situation. All right, if Diggs is there and kind of the harder nose
33:58
competitor on the team, right, people accountable in that regard of being not
34:04
not a jerk per se, but like the the Michael Jordan esque, you
34:09
know, coming to practice every day with like that, like the Kobe Bryant
34:14
es. If you're not working hard, like your shit, like you know
34:17
this is like I'm gonna get in your face and tell you that. And
34:21
he kind of had that that aura about him, which is good. I
34:24
think every team needs that. But now it's up to one seven, Like
34:30
I'm over this Golden Retriever bullshit to be out like this like and like oh,
34:37
joking around like a good hearty guy, like loves everybody on the team.
34:40
Like you can still be the leader do that. But now this is
34:44
where you've got to start transitioning to the Brady the Bannings of getting in people's
34:47
ass, you know, getting you you didn't run that route, right,
34:51
you didn't block this guy. We need to be here, We need to
34:53
be here on this play. There's no if bunce about it, like you
34:55
need to start taking like taking that persona to the next level. And maybe
35:00
you couldn't do that as much when you had one for on the team because
35:05
there was some sort of awkward tiptoeing around type situation with I don't want to
35:10
come at him too hard and then because we know what's gonna happen if I
35:14
come at him whatever the whatever that case is. Now he's gone, so
35:17
there's nobody else to tiptoe around, Like it's your team now one seven,
35:22
So I try to see this step from one seven now, like all right,
35:27
if Diggs was that guy, now you are truly that guy, and
35:30
I need to start seeing that, like I'm thinking this Golden Retriever bullshit,
35:35
to be honest, like it's got to move forward into start holding people accountable
35:38
then and become that bradier that Manning like you know that Michael Jordan, that
35:43
Kobe like every day like nobody, but you gotta respect him. And and
35:47
if you weren't doing that because of stuff on Diggs, that's toxic in its
35:52
own way. But if that was the case, now he's gone. Now
35:54
there's no excuse. Now it needs to start. That leads me into a
35:58
question, DT, and I know that this. I'm not trying to be
36:00
hot, taky or anything like that. I mean I have to ask bill's
36:01
my field, look yourselves in the mirror, and ask yourselves this question is
36:07
is Josh Allen mentally fragile? And I think that that is something that is
36:13
I think it's worthy to ask. I think that it's warranted to ask.
36:15
I didn't say he's soft. I didn't say that he's not ready, he's
36:19
not a gamer. I didn't say he's not going to jump over opposing linebackers
36:22
or stiff arm safeties. That's not what I'm saying When I say soft,
36:24
I'm saying mentally, is he mentally fragile? Could he not handle Stephan Dicks?
36:30
Everybody can't play with Michael Jordan? Actually, to be honest, when
36:32
you watch that Jordan documentary, DT, many of his teammates said, no,
36:36
he was a horrible teammate. But he brought the best out of us.
36:38
But he was a horrible teammate. He was horrible to be around.
36:40
I hated playing with him, but he brought the best out of us,
36:43
and we won championships. And look at all the rings and look at this
36:45
nice house that I have, so listen. It's not for everybody. He's
36:49
not everybody's taste. Please go back when you have an opportunity and you have
36:52
some free time to go back and listen to the This Education of Stephan Diggs
36:55
episode. Here at Nichol City Crew, we spent an entire episode try to
37:00
dissect what makes this guy tick. What makes him tick is the fact that
37:02
he wants to win more than more than the average bear. He is maniacal
37:07
about it. So because he gets so frantic about it, he makes people
37:12
uncomfortable. Is Josh Alan Is Josh Allen uncomfortable by somebody else making you uncomfortable?
37:17
Because if that, if I mean, I'm just asking because now your
37:21
answer could be no, but I want to I want to know it is
37:23
is Josh Allen is? Does he not? Does he not like to be
37:28
challenged? Does he not like to have that from that that? I don't
37:31
know, just just sometimes it's you have to be uncomfortable, and you have
37:35
to be okay being uncomfortable, and some people simply are not. I'm not
37:37
calling him soft, I'm saying mentally, he may not like that shit.
37:42
To be honest, it's not Jordan's not for everybody. Kobe was not for
37:45
everybody. Sure, if it was that's not getting along, or Digs not
37:52
getting along and ask you for a trader, or the Bills saying, okay,
37:54
that's enough, we're trading you that. Yes you are, You're right.
38:00
If it wasn't that, then I say no, and I hope and
38:04
I'm with the It wasn't that, so I'm with the dull. But if
38:07
it ever comes out that it was the other way, that it was either
38:12
the Bills wanting to move on just because of everything surrounding it, or Josh
38:17
Allen saying, I can't do this anymore with this guy, right, right,
38:21
That's what I'm trying to get at. Yes, that's what I'm trying
38:23
to get at. And you're right that he is mentally fragile and that's unacceptable,
38:27
but I just don't like that mentality if it is true. Again,
38:30
I'm not accusing our quarterback. I know that Josh Allen brings out the fury
38:35
and everybody, and I know that everybody loves them, but I just I
38:37
want everybody to understand that I am talking about everything tonight from the premise of
38:40
twenty twenty four I understand long term, it could have been a better move,
38:45
and you get you shed that dead weight, and he is about to
38:46
be thirty one. I get all of the football stuff. I get past
38:50
twenty twenty four. We are not a better team without Stefan Diggs right now,
38:54
and we won't be a better team necessarily in September until we do see
38:58
what happens with the draft picks, what happens with being and what he decides
39:00
to do. I think that there's a chance that Steffan Diggs makes motherfucker's uncomfortable.
39:07
I don't know any other way to say it. I can't sugarcoat it.
39:09
Winning when you are maniacal like that, it rubs some people the wrong
39:14
way. Not saying that Josh Allen doesn't want to win, not saying that
39:16
Josh Allen doesn't pour time into his craft. But you know, when you
39:21
go to work and you got a coworker just like you talked about those eggshells,
39:23
and this person is pissed and they're walking in pissed and they slammed their
39:27
cup down and they're pissed and they're just mad, and you're like, yo,
39:30
man, stay away from Tony today because he's on shit. I don't
39:31
know what he's got going on at home, but he is not in a
39:34
good mood. So everybody just tiptoes around the office around Tony. Nobody wants
39:37
to make him upset. Nobody and sometimes people don't want to deal with that.
39:40
And I get that, and I understand that this is professional sports.
39:44
They're paying millions of dollars. I need you to figure it out, man,
39:46
I'm sorry for twenty twenty four. I needed you to figure this out.
39:50
We are not another team right now without him. I'm and I'm just
39:52
I'm a little bit I'm a little bit at lost trying to figure out what
39:57
the hell went wrong? Man? What went wrong? And well, another
40:00
devil's advocate with this of not not as good of a team as we were
40:05
with him. We go and let's say have it down year because of this.
40:09
It's a bad move. We can't get anything out of offense. Going
40:14
we we go, you know, nine and eight, miss the playoffs,
40:20
or he stays on the team. M let's say we have a repeat of
40:24
the last three years, have a good regular season, go to the playoffs,
40:28
losing the divisual. Okay, what's what's the difference losing him and going
40:34
nine and eight missing the playoffs, or or having him doing the same ship
40:37
and then losing in the playoffs. That's just I mean again, this is
40:43
this is Devil's advocate, Like I like where I truly stand on this yet,
40:45
but it's like, if this is being saying this is better for the
40:50
future, it might touch us a little this year. We got to plan
40:52
to cover this year. But if it blows up in our face, what
40:58
would not say we were guaranteed to losing the divisional round. Probability says we
41:02
do. Probability saysty will say it right. So it's that if that's what
41:09
they're leading out of. If if we have the same season, great,
41:15
because there's a that's a big ask. We sit here on April fifth next
41:17
year, Okay, let's say, okay, Digs left, but we we
41:22
still were elevened, you know, eleven and six, still be in the
41:24
playoffs, lost in the visual round, right, Okay, Digs, it
41:29
didn't matter. But worst case we we take a step, take a step
41:35
back, still don't win. It still doesn't matter. The super Bowl is
41:37
what we keep talking about. The super Bowl is the only thing that matters.
41:42
Does this get us closer to the Super Bowl. I agree. At
41:45
this point, I can't see it, but this is me. The only
41:49
way I can sleep is with this fake play and I haven't heard of yet
41:52
hopefully comes through and is better and launches us, like the trade for step
41:57
On Diggs in the first place, this next play and launches us, you
42:00
know, to that next level. So let's talk about it. Let's talk
42:04
about I don't want to see him go. I really did. It's because
42:07
we're the biggest advocates in Nickel City Crew. We love one for like that
42:13
grind is so crucial to the team. But I don't think everybody even understands
42:16
that practice. I don't think they understand this guy just grun hard on every
42:21
route. And then what did you say that one time? You said you
42:25
can't put the beating his dog in the pen with the puppies. I mean,
42:29
that's one of your greatest lines of Nickel City Crew. I mean he
42:31
was a dog man, and sometimes you know, you get around the dog
42:35
and they can make you uncomfortable, doesn't you know what is then always say
42:37
oh, no, he's great, he's fine, he got him on the
42:39
leash. He's like, yeah, make sure that leash is tight because this
42:42
motherfucker might bite me. And that is totally I think sometimes how people might
42:46
have walked around with stuff on dicks, like, man, this guy could
42:49
go off at any moment. But but on Sundays you you need that juice.
42:52
On Sundays you need that energy. That's the part of the reason why
42:55
again Josh Allen is on the cover behind me a buck mat because you can
43:00
raise them. And my point of all this is there's no there's no win
43:06
to this other than winning a super Bowl. There's no win to this because
43:09
if you don't you said, oh, we should have had stuff on Diggs,
43:12
we could have went to the super Bowl, and then if you the
43:15
only win and I hope it's not the way that Brandon Bean's eyes is.
43:20
Next year, on April fifth, we're sitting here and we say, oh,
43:23
well we had somebody come in they had the exact same stats and Steph
43:27
on Diggs. We we had a great year. We won the NCY East,
43:30
but we lost in the playoffs. Like that. You need guys,
43:35
though, because you need yeah, I know, I know, you know
43:39
of like, oh, we just replaced him. So all you that were
43:43
freaking out that we lost stuff on Diggs. We did fine, We had
43:45
the same same with somebody else, but we still lost. Like I hope
43:51
they're not seeing that as a win as opposed to a Super Bowl. Let's
43:54
talk about twenty twenty four as we transitioned. I mean, I appreciate everybody
43:59
that's been in comments. Marty mw Ryan Thomas. Oh, we appreciate everybody.
44:04
Josh close. Shout out to Josh and again, let let's talk seven
44:07
one and six sports. Thank you for joining us for the first time.
44:08
We appreciate it. He's asking about our thoughts as we get ready for twenty
44:13
twenty four since we're gonna shift a little bit. Hey, Rob DT with
44:16
thoughts on Shakira and Kincaid. You know, it's it's funny because what I
44:21
meant by the two comment, to be honest, is that you need now
44:24
somebody to replace stuff on Diggs, and then you also need somebody who was
44:28
going to be the other guy that was going to be replacing Gabe Davis.
44:31
So I didn't you. I don't know if he had a different feeling on
44:35
it, but I didn't think that Curtis Samuel, the way that his versatility
44:37
works, he can be moved around all over the offense. But that doesn't
44:39
isn't a clear cut X receiver, that big body, somebody that could stand
44:44
up there on the outside and go get it. So I wanted somebody like
44:46
that, and then I wanted, now we need somebody to replace stuff on
44:50
Diggs on top of that. So now you need two guys, which is
44:52
why I'm not really I'm not really in the camp of heaven and Earth,
44:58
trade it and move it all and future first. And you know you've just
45:00
got a second round pick next year, might as well trade that away to
45:04
go get one guy. I'm now focused on more guys. So now the
45:07
posture that I'm taking, I know Ryan had asked about this as well.
45:10
Now I'm taking the posture of let's sit back, let's wait for the draft
45:15
to come to us. Do best player available, hopefully is the wide receiver
45:17
that we like, that we feel comfortable with that we can take a twenty
45:21
eight and then go get another one in round two, or go get another
45:23
one in round three, what the case may be. But I don't think
45:25
that they're I don't think that they should get cute and try to mortgage the
45:30
future now for something that they know is going to be all they are.
45:32
This guy is the guy, it's Malik Neighbors, or it's Roma Dunes.
45:36
Say, yes, those prospects look great, but everybody keeps telling me,
45:38
like you just talked about DT, that this wide receiver of class is so
45:42
deep. So if it's so damn deep, then do your homework. Ask
45:45
for all scouting reports on all the wide receivers, rank them just like Brandon
45:47
Bean said yesterday, and figure out what your best plan of action is.
45:51
Sit at twenty eight now at this point in time, because now you need
45:54
more reinforcements than just one X receiver that's going to come in and hopefully be
45:59
a replacement for Stephan Dicks. No, you just traded him. You need
46:01
a replacement now for Stephan Dicks plus that guy. And yeah, I agree.
46:07
I mean this was a this was a gambling itself. So I was
46:10
more for the trade up before this trade after right, like I was,
46:17
I was like, yeah, let's we got the capitol, let's move up.
46:22
Let's get somebody if even if we go into the teens or I don't
46:25
think we would never make it in the top ten, but in the teens
46:28
and get one of these top guys, I was all about that. Now
46:30
after this trade, I'm I'm reversed. Like like you said, I'm on
46:34
the fact of stepping off of this like now, I don't. Now I
46:38
want to keep all our capital. We can stay in twenty eight, that
46:42
build off that, you know, for the future, so much pressure if
46:45
you get that ship wrong. Here looks good with that with that second,
46:49
With that second, I mean what we got for him if it say it
46:52
was the end of his contract and he was you know, beautiful, beautiful
46:58
age age, his age plus my beautiful got a second round pick. It's
47:01
not this year's draft, next year's draft. We get it, but beautiful,
47:05
he's aging. I don't have any problem past twenty twenty five. I
47:07
don't. We could have talked about this next year. I'm with you on
47:10
that, but not not for twenty twenty four. Yeah, that's why it's.
47:15
Yeah, I'm on the I'm on the stay of twenty eight trade now
47:17
more than ever because we got to keep all the all those assets, uh,
47:22
assets that we need to start picking it hit about him. Uh and
47:25
those other guys are gonna have to elevate. Kate and Shakir are not you
47:29
know, gonna have to come up and play play big. Justin Shorter,
47:32
Marty says it, yeah, bigee. He was the man back when he
47:37
was about high school. I don't know what you do about Yeah, you
47:40
gotta see it. It's hard, you know. I think that can I
47:44
think that Kincaid is an intriguing prospect. I was really happy to see him
47:47
come in. I think that he's got, you know, a tremendous amount
47:51
of ability. You know, he's a little bit of a late bloomer,
47:53
but I think that, you know, last year showed us the glimpses that
47:55
he could be your true slot receiver. He's definitely a more dynamic Beasley.
48:00
And then when it comes to you know, to to Shaker and I'm talking
48:05
about Shak excuse me, and then Kinkaid. You know, Kincaid is just
48:07
he's fun. He's fun to watch, you know, he's he looks like
48:09
he's got great upside and things like that. Justin Shorter, I don't get
48:13
too excited because I haven't seen him do it yet. He went to an
48:15
SEC school. Haven't really seen him kind of come into that. It's kind
48:19
of like the mac hollins thing. It's almost like a lotto ticket, like,
48:21
we'll play the lotto. Hopefully we win the you know, the power
48:23
ball that we you know, we're all we're billionaires. Are great, you
48:25
know, but I don't. I don't. I'm not banking on on that
48:30
happening. So we'll see how it goes. Now as we begin to wrap
48:32
up. You know, it's funny because I was looking at the offense and
48:37
we were talking about the offense and things like that. And it's funny because
48:39
you know, everybody keeps telling me on Twitter or not everybody, but I
48:44
hear it. I've heard it a lot, you know, the last few
48:45
days, DT is again that KC model. Well, you know, ma
48:49
Homes proved that he didn't need Hill, you know, and and and that's
48:52
what the Bills are doing. And I just I think that you are playing
48:55
with such hot fire. I think you're getting ready to put your hand on
48:58
a hot stove if you do something like that, because not only does Mahomes,
49:02
he has so many different advantages that Josh Allen does not. And some
49:06
people like to get mad at me when I say that, but I'm being
49:07
honest with it. Man, he's got an all time great offensive coordinator in
49:13
his head. Coach, somebody that devises up great plays and beautiful I mean,
49:17
we're seeing Super Bowls where guys running wide open for game win, he
49:21
catches and two point conversion. They're just doing whatever they want to do due
49:23
to Andy Reid. Plus he's got an all Pro, all world tied end
49:29
probably going into the Hall of Fame, probably on the first ballot. And
49:30
to have as Kelsey. Josh Allen doesn't have that at his disposal. He
49:35
had stuff on Diggs and when he was in his prime these first four years,
49:37
it was wonderful and it was beautiful music. I just don't think that
49:40
you should be banking everything on Well, we can get rid of Diggs because
49:45
Josh Allen is the man and he will carry us. It does not make
49:50
any sense to me personally to strip Josh Allen of talent. That doesn't make
49:53
sense. That's the whole point of the wide receiver train to begin with,
49:57
was to add more talent to Josh and around him. I don't I just
50:01
don't like that whole mindset that you know, they're almost puffing out their chests
50:05
now and like, well see and Josh Allen's getting ready to show motherfuckers how
50:08
he is the man. He's the man, and he's he doesn't need anybody.
50:12
Yes, he does need people. Everybody needs people. Travis Kelcey,
50:15
excuse me, Mahomes needs people. Every every great quarterback needs somebody. There's
50:19
no quarterback out there doing it by himself. Why did Lamar Jackson just win
50:22
a second MVP was because they surrounded him with you know, say Flowers,
50:27
and they brought in Beckham, who didn't do much, but you get the
50:29
point. They had a lot of different weapons around him where they were trying
50:31
to insulate him so that he didn't have to just run around and do everything
50:35
on his own. I don't want to see Josh Allen running around forever.
50:37
It's not gonna last forever. We are now in phase two of his career.
50:42
Man surround him with weapons. I don't understand this whole Moniker. When
50:45
we puff out our chests and say we've got to all world quarterback. He's
50:47
on the cover of MATTEN. Let him just go jump over linebackers all day
50:50
and he'll prove that he didn't need Steph Diggs. That is so ignorant to
50:53
me, because you want to surround these guys with talent, not take away
50:58
talent that just the it just doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't.
51:01
And that's a hypocritical point, right, because those are the same people that
51:05
are going to stay in the season when when the offense gets stale of oh,
51:08
we don't have enough weapons. We don't have enough weapons. Everyone.
51:12
That's why we're taking defensive players in the first round because you know, we're
51:16
not giving you know, Josh new weapons and Aaron Rodgers never got talking about
51:20
both sides of the Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers never got any weapons in Green
51:23
Bay. Well, Aaron Rodgers has won Super Bowl thirty years ago, you
51:28
know, Like, so, yeah, that's a great point, rob And
51:32
that's I it's my optimism of hits my optimism point a lot, because yeah,
51:38
you're right. I mean, he yes, he did, he did,
51:42
he lost, he lost Tyree all world. Yeah, but he still
51:46
has. Travis Kelsey has been proving all world and the best offensive coach probably
51:51
ever. And we don't we have an opposite. We are not an offensive
51:54
coach first or second year offensive And I just took away the best weapons.
52:01
So you better hope Josh Allen is that superman that you're you know that we
52:06
talk about because if not, you're going to see the decline and that it's
52:09
gonna be Well, why don't we have any weapons? Well because you traded
52:13
away one four? Well yeah again I again everything for me coming from the
52:17
twenty four outlook. So as we begin to wrap up tonight, DT,
52:21
I appreciate your time. I know you've been living under the weather. What
52:23
what? What is? How do you feel about twenty twenty four? Now?
52:28
How do you feel about it now? Now? Again, I know
52:30
you talked about a master playing. I know the being said that I'm gonna
52:34
you know, I'm not giving in and he let if the fan base know
52:36
that he's not giving in and all the other good stuff. How do you
52:37
feel about twenty twenty four now? I will admit that I am less optimistic
52:43
today than I was prior to Stephan Digs being traded. I will also admit
52:47
that part of that is because of the fact that I talked about we need
52:52
two weapons now, so it's not just one. It's not just one guy
52:54
to come in and we're bringing him and he's gonna learn underneath Stephan Diggs and
52:59
he's gonna get better than he's going to learn Route Tree and he's going to
53:01
learn different mentality and how to practice all that other stuff as a rookie,
53:05
which is hard enough to assimilate yourself to the league, but now you need
53:08
two guys to hit, and I'm just I'm more nervous because it's really hard
53:12
to get two guys to hit as opposed to just one. The drafts a
53:15
crapshoot anyway, So I acknowledge that there's no guarantees regardless, and we get
53:20
that. How do you feel about twenty twenty four now? Because I will
53:23
admit I am I'm less optimistic today than I was two days ago. For
53:28
sure. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I'm sticking with that.
53:31
Dean's got a plan that that's going to stick out, that that it's going
53:35
to be significant, you know, Okay, I get it now, and
53:37
so I'm sticking of that. I'm there. But I also kind of like
53:44
that now the bills I think are going to start to shadow under the radar
53:47
a little more. You know, when we were in the spotlight these past
53:50
couple of years, it's been like we've been for years that the bills,
53:53
remember pays attention to bills, and now all they do is talk about the
53:58
Bills and the pressure is there, but that also comes with there. It
54:01
is receiver being a diva? Is your is your is your quarterback? Not
54:07
get along with him? Is this? There's all this extra bs we've we've
54:09
had to cover over the past three years because we've been the favorite, We've
54:15
been in the spotlight. And so I think the glass at fole here and
54:20
now we can kind of roll in under the radar, make it make it
54:22
fun again. We don't have to we don't have that, so that media
54:25
attention we don't have. Yeah, but that's I mean, that's that's how
54:32
you know, my initial thought of like, all right, let's let's chill
54:36
now and now we can kind of roll in under the radar, and then
54:39
when we still see success from that, it'll be even sweeter. So that's
54:44
that's where I kind of see see that at I did want one for the
54:46
lead. Ever, really I want to a retire Bill. He's crucial,
54:52
but he's gone now, so let's let's use it to our advantage and and
54:55
kind of sneak attack and still be in per perennial team. All Right,
55:00
I hear you, I see you, Pop, I see you Pop Pop.
55:01
A cluel On they're telling us to trust the process. I don't have
55:05
any problem trust in the process. My problem is that I want the process
55:07
to uh to show me. Somebody that had a great line on Twitter said,
55:09
well, eventually the process has to show me something, you know what
55:13
I mean. Like, I felt like that that was a good, you
55:15
know, tone to strike. I don't have any problem. I love Brandon
55:17
Bean. I love that he's aggressive. I love that he makes different moves
55:22
and he's not afraid to stand on his convictions. I can respect that because
55:25
whether he's wrong or right, he's gonna stand on his convictions. What yesterday
55:29
made me feel was that he wasn't able to read the room properly again part
55:34
of his job for me. I look, you know, not everybody wants
55:37
that from their GM. They say, well, that's all the coaches responsibility.
55:39
Well, clearly Stephan Biggs and John McDermott did not, you know,
55:43
always see eye to eye. So it was gonna take somebody. It was
55:45
going to take another third party to broker some type of relationship and men fences,
55:50
so to speak. So if there was a problem with Stefan Diggs and
55:52
he came through his agent and said I want out. I need to identify
55:57
why. And again we've already said that it's not tired, it's not yards,
56:00
it's not anything like that. It's not attention. So if it is
56:02
based on winning, then that's when I would like my general manager to step
56:06
in and try to bridge the gap, so to speak. I would like
56:09
for him to reach out to Steph. I like for him to reach out
56:12
to Steph for Fermily on a three way call with with Josh Allen and Josh
56:15
Allen could be in Paris or wherever he is with his girlfriend and and hey,
56:19
listen, this is what stuff's going through. This is some of the
56:22
things that he's worried about. You know, let's talk this out. Josh's
56:24
on the other line. I'm gonna click him over, and I'm being I'm
56:28
being honest. People may laugh, but like, that's like it could be.
56:30
It could have been as simple as that. Doesn't mean that everything's just
56:32
patched up, doesn't mean that everything is gonna be perfect. And Rosie,
56:36
however, there has to be an understanding that listen, man, you're under
56:37
contract. We do need your stuff. Maybe this is something we can talk
56:40
about next year or something like that, but we need you men to help
56:43
us go win a Super Bowl, and I'm not gonna be able to agree
56:45
us to your request. So I need you to get on board. And
56:50
if you're not on board, then I then let's work this out and let's
56:52
talk about it. And that's where the GM. I just need him that
56:54
what is a general manager. A general manager manages people. Correct, you're
56:59
a GM. You run people like you have to manage people. It's not
57:01
just about numbers and cap fitting. It's about people, and there are real
57:06
people who have different personalities. And I would just like to see Brandon work
57:10
a little bit harder. It seemed like yesterday it was more conceding. That's
57:15
why he wouldn't admit because he wants to keep those relationships with the agents in
57:17
the future. It doesn't want to trash and say that Stefan Diggs asked for
57:21
a trade. But it seemed like Stephan Diggs asked for a trade. And
57:23
I was in the media room, I would have been raising my hands to
57:25
coach, excuse me, Brandon, what went wrong where you couldn't broke her
57:30
something between these guys and and that's the that's the million dollar question. Actually
57:34
the thirty one dead cat million dollar question that the Bills before before, because
57:40
it's the quarterback and the quarterback to the quarterback too. If it's the BFF
57:45
and my best friend, I love Stefan Diggs. I love Stefan Diggs.
57:47
Hey, Brandy bed here, Stefan Diggs wants traded. Hell no, no
57:52
he doesn't. Hell no, he doesn't. Hell no it is Yeah who
57:58
said that? You know? Josh and said whos said? Steph's agent just
58:00
called it. Okay, no problem, hang up the phone and get on
58:02
the phone with Steph yourself. Man the man, Like, Yo, Man,
58:05
I know you love me. Man, I love you too, Bro,
58:07
Like what's up? Man? You don't want to play with me?
58:08
No more? Like come on? Like, oh man, I can't stand
58:12
with Dermott. Yeah, okay, don't even worry about macturd. You don't
58:15
even have to talk to McDermott. Next year, Okay, it's meet you
58:16
and Joe and Joe Brady, Like, don't worry you worry about Sean,
58:20
you know what I mean? Ignore his ass every time you see him.
58:22
So that didn't happen, No, no, and he and he would still
58:25
be a Buffalo Bill. I believe wholeheartedly. If Josh Allen would have stood
58:30
up for him and said, hey, you know I I need him on
58:32
the team. If he said I want to this is that scenario. Yeah,
58:37
absolutely, I think that Josh Allen could have stepped in and made a
58:39
difference. And maybe, just maybe Josh was sick of it again, which
58:44
led back to my other point is that he is he fragile mentally? Is
58:46
he? Is he in a situation where I don't really like Iah just it's
58:50
just annoying dealing with this guy. Man. I mean it could be annoying,
58:52
but look at the look at the production. More catches than any other
58:57
receiver in the league. Since you got him on your team, You're on
58:59
the cover of Madden, You've got all these different endorsements. I see him
59:02
on commercials all the time. I mean, come on, man, like,
59:06
sometimes sometimes it's worth it's worth it. Sometimes you know, the shit
59:09
that you have to deal with is worth it. And I don't know again,
59:12
and nobody knows, and Bill's backy again, don't forget. As we
59:15
get ready to wrap up, nobody goes to work with these guys. So
59:16
we're all speculating to a certain degree. Nobody goes to work with these guys.
59:21
We don't know exactly what happened. We don't know exactly what was said,
59:23
but I will I'll stand firm that if Brandon and Josh Allen specifically wanted
59:29
this to be different, I think that it could have been a little bit
59:30
different. I really do. I'll stand on that. Bill's Texans Week one.
59:36
Oh my gosh, oh my goodness. And it's in Houston, right,
59:39
isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely
59:44
getting ready to get juicy. So we'll see. Brandon Bean has a time.
59:47
He told us yesterday that we've got time, so we'll see what kind
59:50
of massive plans that he comes up with. Just saw today come through on
59:52
the wire that Lyle Collins signs with the Buffalo Bills. We saw that,
59:57
so that should be interesting as well. Somebody said that they gave him starter.
1:00:00
So what does that mean for Spencer Brown? I don't know. I
1:00:04
do like Lyle Collins. I remember his career with Dallas and I don't you
1:00:07
know, and I think it was Houston as well, So who you know,
1:00:09
I don't. I don't know what that means for Spencer Brown. You
1:00:13
know, anytime I see any move now I'm just gonna be asking Kenny Ketch,
1:00:15
Kenny catch Kenny cat Candy run across the girl? Can he run up
1:00:20
a fifty yard post? You know, I'm just looking for somebody to now
1:00:22
replace Diggs, and I guess Diggs and Davis. So we'll see how it
1:00:27
goes. DT. Appreciate it, man, get better, man, get
1:00:30
some rags. You said you get yourself back to full strength. I appreciate
1:00:32
you taking time out of your night man as always, Hey, love it,
1:00:35
what miss it? Big show for the crew, love being out here.
1:00:37
It's a tough one. Robogo, that's our guy. So yeah,
1:00:42
man, that's my guy for sure. Man crossed. Yeah, I appreciate
1:00:45
everybody out there. Again. That was in the text chained with us tonight,
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