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Massive Lithium Discovery in Appalachia · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern, 3 o'clock Pacific, from coast to coast
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  Speaker 1: and around the world.
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  Speaker 2: The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with
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  Speaker 2: the American voter as the Crackle Barrel rebrand has.
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  Speaker 1: From America Out Loud Talk Radio, it's time for Truth
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  Speaker 1: Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 3: At the beginning of the Iranian conflict, everyone in Congress
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  Speaker 3: was talking about the War Powers Act. Donald Trump had
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  Speaker 3: to come to Congress, and he had to get permissions.
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  Speaker 3: before he did what he did in Iran. Obviously he didn't,
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  Speaker 3: but neither has any other American leader since World War II.
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  Speaker 3: None of them have. I'm Booker. This is The Truth
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  Speaker 3: Be Told, and it's so great to have you here
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  Speaker 3: with us tonight. And every night we're going to get
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  Speaker 3: into Iran a little bit. We have some more fraud
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  Speaker 3: that is happening in Ohio. There's fraud everywhere, but The
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  Speaker 3: Daily Wire has found some in Ohio. We'll get into
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  Speaker 3: that story. Also, a very important discovery was made in
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  Speaker 3: Appalachia last week. Lithium was found in the ground, and
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  Speaker 3: that's huge. We'll get into that story with EPA Chief
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  Speaker 3: Lee Zeldin in just a few minutes. Let's get back
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  Speaker 3: to the Iranian conflict that has now been going on
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  Speaker 3: for over 60 days. The ceasefire took place April 7th.
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  Speaker 3: Now Donald Trump is at a point where he may
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  Speaker 3: have to start firing on Iran again. Maybe the infrastructure,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. It seems like he's at that point.
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  Speaker 3: I played a clip for you over the weekend that
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  Speaker 3: said that it is imminent. I don't know that it's imminent,
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  Speaker 3: but there is nothing happening with the negotiation because nobody
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  Speaker 3: knows who is in charge in Iran. And the Strait
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  Speaker 3: of Hormuz is not completely open. The blockade seems to
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  Speaker 3: be working. And now Donald Trump is has ships escorting
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  Speaker 3: other ships through the Strait of Hormuz. We had six gunboats,
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  Speaker 3: six speedboats of Iran that were killed just on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: CENTCOM reported that. That was after they were attacking a U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Ship.
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  Speaker 5: So the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Military fired back and destroyed those six speedboats. That's the
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  Speaker 3: only Navy that Iran has anymore, are speedboats with a
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  Speaker 3: couple of outboards on them. But they can do damage.
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  Speaker 3: They run around the Strait of Hormuz. They can send
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  Speaker 3: rocket propelled grenades and other type of weaponry at ships.
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  Speaker 3: And that's enough to keep people from trying to go
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  Speaker 3: through the Strait of Hormuz. And we're not getting things
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  Speaker 3: moving through there, whether it's oil or other products for
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the world. And it's causing a problem
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  Speaker 3: in many places. You're keeping up with the news. You
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  Speaker 3: know that that is happening. Now, Donald Trump is in
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  Speaker 3: that 60 to 90 day window, though, from that from
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  Speaker 3: the very beginning. You know, we talked about this at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of this conflict that It is not necessary
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  Speaker 3: for the president if he deems there is a threat
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  Speaker 3: to America that he can use force as he has
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  Speaker 3: done in Iran. And even the War Powers Act gives
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  Speaker 3: the president 60 days. And 60 days, then really the
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  Speaker 3: troops are supposed to be moving out of there. There
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  Speaker 3: are no ground troops in Iran. So I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if that's another part of the argument or not. We
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  Speaker 3: have a Navy there and we have Air Force, but
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  Speaker 3: we have no one on the ground in Iran as
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  Speaker 3: probably some special forces. Sure, they're there. But no troops.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody was talking about ground troops. And we talked about
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  Speaker 3: it on this show that that was not going to
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  Speaker 3: be a part of this. You could tell because there
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  Speaker 3: was no buildup. There was never at any point a
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  Speaker 3: buildup of troops anywhere in the world. And it would
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  Speaker 3: take probably a couple of months to get a half
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  Speaker 3: a million troops there. You have an Iranian army of 650,000, 300,000
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  Speaker 3: in reserves. So just call it a million. You have
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  Speaker 3: a You're not going to go in there with 3,000
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  Speaker 3: or 4,000 Marines and another 3,000 from the 82nd Airborne.
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  Speaker 3: So ground troops in Iran was never going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: So what does Donald Trump do now? In some ways,
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  Speaker 3: I think his back is against the wall at this point.
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  Speaker 3: He's not getting what he wants from Iran, probably because
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  Speaker 3: Iran doesn't even know who's in charge over there. So
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  Speaker 3: what do they do? What does Donald Trump do here?
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  Speaker 3: You're running into the midterm. It's six months away from
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  Speaker 3: right now. And this thing is not ending. Gas prices
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  Speaker 3: are over $ 4 a gallon. Inflation may start creeping up.
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  Speaker 3: And Donald Trump has to feel some of that pressure.
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  Speaker 3: But he also has to feel the pressure of, we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to leave here until we do the right thing.
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  Speaker 3: And the right thing is making sure that Iran never
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  Speaker 3: has the capability of a nuclear weapon. That's something Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump has been consistent on for years, he has. He
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  Speaker 3: told us last June after Midnight Hammer that their nuclear
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  Speaker 3: capability had been completely decimated, and we found that that
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  Speaker 3: was not the truth. So here we are again. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to be interesting to watch what happens here. I
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  Speaker 3: think we're on the verge of Donald Trump having to
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  Speaker 3: be offensive again in Iran to get them to move.
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  Speaker 3: The Iranian people, whoever is in charge, they know they're
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  Speaker 3: in trouble. economically and in other ways in this country,
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  Speaker 3: if it continues down this path, which there is no
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  Speaker 3: other path that it will continue down, then there will
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  Speaker 3: be an uprising of the people in Iran. And then
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  Speaker 3: possibly there could be the regime change that everybody wants,
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  Speaker 3: and it would be for the people and by the people.
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  Speaker 3: It's something I've talked about since the beginning of this conflict. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll start hearing from people in Congress that
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  Speaker 3: say the War Powers Act, we have to vote on it.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's going to happen. I
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  Speaker 3: don't believe that John Thune or Speaker Mike Johnson, either one,
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  Speaker 3: will ever bring that for a vote. Maybe the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: will try to force it. I still believe that President
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is in his right to do what he's
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  Speaker 3: doing there in Iran. Again, there's been a ceasefire since
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  Speaker 3: April 7th. So really, we went about 45 days with
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  Speaker 3: that conflict as far as an offensive conflict. But I
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  Speaker 3: believe we're about to see more of that. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: to something Tucker Carlson told The New York Times last week.
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  Speaker 3: Let me play this audio for you. Listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: This is Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 2: And Trump engenders cowardice in the people around him through intimidation.
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  Speaker 2: And there is a kind of quality that he has
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  Speaker 2: that's spellbinding. And I think it probably literally is a spell.
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  Speaker 2: And the effect is to weaken people around him and
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  Speaker 2: make them more compliant and more confused. And I've experienced
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  Speaker 2: this myself. You spend a day with Trump and sort
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  Speaker 2: of like you're in this kind of dreamland. It's like
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  Speaker 2: smoking hash or something.
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  Speaker 6: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It's like smoking hash or something. Very interesting, Tucker says.
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  Speaker 3: Do you really believe that that's what it's like to
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  Speaker 3: be around Donald Trump for a day? And if it is,
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  Speaker 3: how weak is Tucker Carlson to come away feeling like
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  Speaker 3: he has smoked hash all day? I wonder how many
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  Speaker 3: days in Tucker Carlson's life has he actually smoked hash
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  Speaker 3: all day to understand what that would feel like. I
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  Speaker 3: doubt that he has. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson is spreading more bullcrap. That's what he does.
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  Speaker 6: Very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And there may be a supernatural component to it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a theologian, but it's real, and anyone who's been
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  Speaker 2: around him can.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you it's real. And Tucker has to remind us
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  Speaker 3: that he is not one that studies that spirituality, like
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  Speaker 3: there may be something divine about Donald Trump. Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 3: is full of crap, and I'm tired of him, Candace Owens,
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  Speaker 3: and Megyn Kelly doing what they are doing. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, there are two U.S. service members missing
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  Speaker 3: in southwestern Morocco following an annual multinational military exercise that
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  Speaker 3: is sparking an ongoing search and rescue effort by U.S.
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  Speaker 3: and allied forces. This news came out over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: There are war games exercises going on there known as
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  Speaker 3: African Lion. It started in April and it runs across
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  Speaker 3: four countries in the African continent. And it is the
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  Speaker 3: United States military's largest annual exercise in Africa. So right now,
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  Speaker 3: two U.S. military members are missing there. So keep them
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  Speaker 3: in your prayers. Here's another story I want to hit
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  Speaker 3: on quickly. This never made any sense to me why
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  Speaker 3: we had all of those Hollywood people and politicians going
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  Speaker 3: to Ukraine at the beginning of that Ukraine-Russian war. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, they are still negotiating Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: continues to bomb into Russia. Russia's really not moving in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 3: and Putin thinks there's going to be a coup in Russia.
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  Speaker 3: But let me get back to this story. USAID bribed
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  Speaker 3: Hollywood frauds to travel to Ukraine and pose for photos
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  Speaker 3: with Zelensky. You remember that at the beginning of this war?
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  Speaker 3: We had all these Hollywood people going over there, and
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  Speaker 3: we started sending billions and billions of dollars. Here's a list,
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  Speaker 3: and here's what they got paid. This may make you sick,
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  Speaker 3: because it did me. Ben Stiller. He went to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 5: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: You're in the middle of a war zone. Let's have
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  Speaker 3: Ben Stiller go over there. Take a picture with Zelensky.
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  Speaker 3: He was paid $ 4 million of your taxpayer money from USAID.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Penn. Sean Penn got $ 5 million. Orlando Bloom, $ 8 million.
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  Speaker 3: Jean-Claude Van Damme, $ 1. 5 million. Angelina Jolie. Remember, she went
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  Speaker 3: to Ukraine and right there in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: war zone that we were sending billions and billions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars to, they paid her $ 20 million. USAID paid Angelina
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  Speaker 3: Jolie $ 20 million of your taxpayer dollars to go to
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine and take a picture with Zelensky, all part of
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  Speaker 3: a ploy to get the American people on the side
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  Speaker 3: of Ukraine so that we could send them $ 200 billion
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  Speaker 3: plus another $ 100 billion in ammunition and weaponry, which we
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  Speaker 3: continue to do with weapons. Last week, Dr. Moran's a
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  Speaker 3: close confidant and senior. advisor to Dr. Fauci. He was indicted,
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  Speaker 3: and there is some more news. What about Fauci? Statute
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  Speaker 3: of limitations for him is coming up within a week.
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  Speaker 3: There may be some more investigations going on with Fauci.
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  Speaker 3: If anything's going to happen with Fauci, it's going to
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  Speaker 3: happen within the next week. If not, forget Fauci. Forget it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's move on. But here is Director of National Intelligence
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  Speaker 3: Tulsi Gabbard, and she just confirmed with The Megyn Kelly
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  Speaker 3: Show that she's leading a full investigation into Fauci for
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  Speaker 3: alleged perjury.
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  Speaker 7: But the thing that we are working with Jay Bhattacharya,
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  Speaker 7: the new NIH director on, with as well as Secretary Kennedy,
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  Speaker 7: is Looking at the gain-of-function research that, in the case
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  Speaker 7: of the Wuhan lab, as well as many of these
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  Speaker 7: other biolabs around the world, was actually U.S.-funded.
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  Speaker 3: And it was funded through Echo Health Alliance and Peter Daszak.
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  Speaker 3: It was Echo Health Alliance that money came to from Fauci.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Daszak was the name there. You can look all
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  Speaker 3: of that up. You may remember most of that story.
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  Speaker 3: But that's how gain of function was done in the
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  Speaker 3: Wuhan lab. Let me remind you again of three things
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  Speaker 3: that happened in that Wuhan lab in September 2019. This
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  Speaker 3: information is now declassified. The first thing that happened was
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  Speaker 3: the genetic sequencing is gone. It disappeared. That means lifelong
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  Speaker 3: scientists who have put all of their work into this,
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  Speaker 3: this gain of function, this, whatever it was, all of
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  Speaker 3: that genetic sequencing disappeared.
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  Speaker 8: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Redfield testified in a hearing in March 2023 on
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  Speaker 3: Capitol Hill that that never happens. He had worked in
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  Speaker 3: dual-use labs for most of his career, and he says
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  Speaker 3: that just doesn't happen. It's your life work. You don't
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  Speaker 3: lose it. But they did. So that's one thing that happened.
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  Speaker 3: Another thing that happened is the People's Liberation Army of China,
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  Speaker 3: they came in and took control of the Wuhan lab
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  Speaker 3: in September 2019. And the third thing that happened is
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  Speaker 3: was air filter system, the air system within the Wuhan
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  Speaker 3: lab was completely changed to a new one. So that
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  Speaker 3: tells you that something happened in that Wuhan lab that
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  Speaker 3: created COVID. And the gain of function through Fauci, Peter Daszak,
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  Speaker 3: is probably the reason why. Let's go back to Tulsi Gabbard.
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  Speaker 7: And leads to this dangerous kind of research that in
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  Speaker 7: many examples has resulted in either a pandemic or some
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  Speaker 7: other major health crisis.
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  Speaker 8: Let me ask you specifically, because we already know that
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  Speaker 8: EcoHealth Alliance was partnering with this Wuhan lab to create,
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  Speaker 8: to do gain-of-function research.
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  Speaker 7: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: We just have never been able to have somebody say,
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  Speaker 8: and it was that exact experiment that led to this
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  Speaker 8: COVID bug. But have we gotten there? What's the new
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  Speaker 8: thing that you're digging in on?
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  Speaker 7: We are working on that with Jay Bhattacharya and look
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  Speaker 7: forward to being able to share that.
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  Speaker 6: Hopefully very soon. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: That specific link.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 7: Between the gain of function research and what we saw
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  Speaker 7: with COVID-19.
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  Speaker 3: Tulsi Gabbard there says they have more information to share
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  Speaker 3: on that. Was it Echo Health Alliance, Peter Daszak, through
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci that actually funded COVID? That would make a
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense as to why Fauci covered up so much,
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  Speaker 3: and they tried to make it about bad soup and
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  Speaker 3: the Wuhan wet market, as opposed to being a gain-of-function research,
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  Speaker 3: as we know that it probably was at this point.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have to wait and see what comes out. Before
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  Speaker 3: we get to the story on fraud in Ohio, let's
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  Speaker 3: get to EPA Chief Lee Zeldin, who's doing a great job,
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  Speaker 3: and this massive new lithium deposit that was just discovered
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  Speaker 3: in Appalachia. And let's go to this. This was on
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  Speaker 3: News Nation. This week, they found huge deposits of lithium
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  Speaker 3: in Appalachia.
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  Speaker 6: Lithium, of course, being a crucial component in EVs, crucial
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  Speaker 6: to the future.
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  Speaker 9: What does this mean for America and especially for the heartland?
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  Speaker 10: Being able to reduce our reliance on China, being able
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  Speaker 10: to reduce our reliance on foreign sources. Critical minerals, rare earth,
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  Speaker 10: from extraction through processing needs to be ramped up inside
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  Speaker 10: the United States. You hear a lot about unleashing energy dominance.
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  Speaker 10: We also care about batteries and magnets and chips and semiconductors.
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  Speaker 10: And when we have these own resources within our own country,
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  Speaker 10: we should not only be extracting them here, we should
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  Speaker 10: be processing them here, and we should do it proudly
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  Speaker 10: knowing that we tap into these resources so much better
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  Speaker 10: for our environment than so many other countries elsewhere around
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  Speaker 10: the world.
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  Speaker 5: This was a great find.
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  Speaker 10: We should be tapping into these sources.
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  Speaker 3: And that can ultimately help a lot with national security,
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  Speaker 3: because if you're not having to worry about China going
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  Speaker 3: to Greenland to get rare earth minerals out of the ground,
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  Speaker 3: because we have plenty here and we don't need that,
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  Speaker 3: then it kind of changes things in national security and
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  Speaker 3: the things that Donald Trump has to do and is
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  Speaker 3: continuing to try to do to keep Americans safe and
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  Speaker 3: also our future with rare earth minerals and artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 3: and the huge global economy that it will become by 2030,
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  Speaker 3: the experts say, $ 15. 7 to $ 22. 3 trillion, equivalent to China
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  Speaker 3: and India's GDP combined. It's a lot of money. That's
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  Speaker 3: why you hear about artificial intelligence almost on every newscast
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  Speaker 3: and almost on every commercial that you see. Everything is
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  Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence. Daily Wire is Ben Shapiro's news organization,
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  Speaker 3: and they came across some more fraud in Ohio near Columbus.
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  Speaker 3: There is a huge empty building that all of these
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  Speaker 3: companies that do Medicare are allegedly in, and $ 65 million
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  Speaker 3: ran through there. I'm not sure yet about the timeframe,
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  Speaker 3: how many years that was. But the building is completely empty,
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  Speaker 3: and now Vice President J.D. Vance is going to get involved.
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  Speaker 3: He's now handling a lot of that fraud as part
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  Speaker 3: of his job as the Vice President of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: We no longer have Doge, but we have J.D. Vance
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  Speaker 3: that's taking lead on that. We'll have to wait and
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  Speaker 3: see what is going to come from that. Every state
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  Speaker 3: has waste, abuse, and corruption. We're going to meet a
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  Speaker 3: young man coming up next that wants to do away
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  Speaker 3: with all of that. He's a young Republican running for
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  Speaker 3: the statehouse in, of all places, New York. He's full
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  Speaker 3: of energy. He's full of ideas. You're going to meet
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  Speaker 3: him coming up next.
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  Speaker 10: We pray for rain and thank him when it's falling
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  Speaker 10: because it brings a grain and.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit of money.
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  Speaker 5: We put it back in the plate.
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  Speaker 10: I guess that's why they call it God's country.
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  Speaker 1: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
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  Speaker 3: Someone asked me the other day, how do you even
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  Speaker 3: because that is the most important thing in this country
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: is local, local, local. I can't say it enough. I've
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: said it for years, but I'm going to keep saying
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: it until somebody gets it. You have to be involved
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: in a local GOP, really, to make a difference in
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: your county, your city, your state. and ultimately the country.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: That's how it works. So tonight, I want to bring
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: into the conversation now a young man from upstate New York.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: He was born and raised in Cicero. His name is
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: James Corll. James, welcome to the program. So glad to
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: have you. Awesome.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much for having me, Booker. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: really appreciate the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you graduate from Le Moyne College in New York,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: and right after that, you go to work there in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the state senate. Is that correct?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: That is, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: For three years, I had the incredible opportunity to work
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: for Senator Mark Walzik. Senator Walzik represents the north country
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: of New York State. It's a big, beautiful district that
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: takes about four and a half hours to get to
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: end to end. And under his tutelage, I learned so
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: much about the legislative process. As his legislative director, I
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: saw Albany at its best and.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: More often than not, Albany at its worst.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: And I decided that at the end of my tenure
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: in his office that I'd just seen enough of Albany.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: I knew that I was making a decent impact in
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: my role with the Senator's office, but I thought I
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: could make an even bigger impact if I ran for
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: state Senate myself.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: So that's what's led me to where I am today.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: You don't mind me asking your age. How old are you?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I'm 23 years old. Okay, that's great. I think last
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: time in your district, you also had a young Republican running.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think he quite won. Maybe you can pull
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: this out this time. You have your hands full in
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the state of New York. You have Kathy Hochul. And then,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: of course, in New York City, you have Mandani. And
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: your objective to go to Albany and represent your constituents
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: would be to try to keep all of that money
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: that may be headed to New York from doing that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: What other kind of issues do you see there? for
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: your constituency in the north central part of New York.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: So my campaign is focused on three central issues. I'm
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: focused on affordable energy, affordable living, and affordable government.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: And I'll walk you through a little bit of each
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: part of those.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: For affordable energy, New York State pays 50% more for
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: our electricity than the rest of the country. And the
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: reason for that is Albany, since 2019, has continually passed
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: renewable energy mandates onto utility companies, which then pass them
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: along to ratepayers. We are putting up solar fields and
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: wind turbines in upstate New York, which, in my opinion,
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: makes no sense. Just outside of my district is the
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: city of Syracuse, and Syracuse is the eighth cloudiest city
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: in the country.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Not working, is it?
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Now, if you're asking me.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Booker, I don't think it makes much sense to have
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: solar panels in the eighth cloudiest city in the country.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: Instead, my position on that is to increase our investment
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: in nuclear power.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Actually, in my district, there are three nuclear reactors.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: Investing in them, investing in new nuclear technology is something
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: that's really going to help us bring costs down for
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: consumers because since 2019, we've been taking energy offline and
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: not putting enough online at the same time. So that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: a little bit about my affordable energy strategy in a nutshell.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Well, let's stay there real quick because you guys have
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the Nine Mile Point nuclear reactor site, which is the
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: oldest still running nuclear site in the country, 1988. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: when you were in Albany, what kind of pushback do
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you have from the Democrats there in Albany in the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: statehouse that would push back against nuclear? It's clean. It's
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: more affordable. Why would they or are they pushing back
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: against that?
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: A lot of Democrats are pushing back on nuclear, I think,
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: for the sole fact that it's not solar and it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: not wind power. And a lot of environmentalists think that
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: nuclear is unsafe because of accidents that happen in Chernobyl.
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: One thing they don't acknowledge, though, is the fact that
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: nuclear technology is extremely safe, is extremely reliable. It doesn't
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: take up acres of prime farmland like solar does. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: like you said, Nine Mile, which is within the district,
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: has been running successfully since 1988. It's been producing clean energy.
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: It powers 1.8 million homes across New York State. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: I would like to be forward-thinking about this, not just
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: investing in our current nuclear fleet, which is vital and important,
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: but also investing in new nuclear technology, such as small
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: modular reactors.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Nuclear small modular reactors that can be built on a
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: couple acres of land produce a lot of power for communities,
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: but also provide a lot of good paying jobs for
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: communities that might have been left by the wayside. There's
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: a large part of my district, which I consider part
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: of the Rust Belt. I know a lot of people,
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: your viewers probably think the Rust Belt stops at Ohio
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: or Pennsylvania. It really continues across the I-90 corridor, in
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: my opinion, starting with Buffalo and continuing to Syracuse and
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: even going further west to Canajoharie, Johnstown, and Gloversville out
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: in eastern New York. There's a lot of communities that
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: are hurting right now, and small mods or reactor technology
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: has the potential to revitalize a lot of these former
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: industrial sites.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: If you're listening to this program, read about what James
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: is talking about there. I've done a little bit about it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: There are only two companies in the country right now
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: that are certified to do this, and it's not the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: same type of nuclear reactor that you may remember Three
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Mile Island in Pennsylvania doing. And I think a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: of Americans still have that that almost melted down. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: think that was in the 80s, maybe. I don't know.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I remember it like it was yesterday. I just don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: remember the year on that. But read into that technology
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: that is available. It is clean and it will make
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: things more affordable for energy without having to go to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: solar and electricity. windmills. And James, I don't know about you,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: but I've never met a conservative yet that doesn't want
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to preserve the earth that we have. They just don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: want things mandated to them. They don't want to be
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: told by the government that you have to do this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: You know, we're more capitalist. We want things to work
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: through the market to get to the point of everybody
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: driving an electric vehicle if that's what everybody wants to drive.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So I'm sure you probably feel the same way. What
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: are some other things that you are concerned about for
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the people that you want to represent?
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: So another big part of my platform is affordable living.
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: And as a young person in New York State, I
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: want to be able to own my own home.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: And raise a family here in central New York.
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: However, a lot of young people like myself feel like
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: they're being priced out of the local market. And the
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: reason for that is there's a couple different reasons. The
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: first one is microns. I'm not sure if your ship
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: is familiar, but there's a chip fab that will be
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: going into central New York built by a company called Micron.
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: And I think Micron is going to be transformational for
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: the region. The issue, the downside with it, though, is
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: house prices are skyrocketing because with Micron coming, there are
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: a lot of people with higher purchasing power than young
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: people coming in and buying.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Up housing stock.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: The second reason why housing prices are going through the
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: roof is, again, mandates from Albany. There was a proposal
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: last year from Albany to put fire sprinklers in all
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: new construction.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: Even if the consumer doesn't want it, it would be mandated.
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: That would cost $ 30, 000.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Adding $ 30.
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: 000 onto a cost of a new home for young people,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: it's unattainable and it's unaffordable. And when you see young
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: families leaving central New York and leaving New York state
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: in general, 36% say they are leaving because of high
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: housing costs.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: So that's something that's really crucial.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: You know, James, it's a problem all across the country.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I know we're speaking specifically about New York, central, north,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: upstate New York. But this is all across the country
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that people your age, they feel like that American dream
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: is a nightmare at this point. They can't afford it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: They don't know how they're going to ever own a home.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: And if they do, we know now that most people
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: own their first home at 40 years old. And that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: not America. That's not the America dream that I grew
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: up with. That's not the one that we want to
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: leave for the generations after us. And there are many
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: problems with that. And this is one way to tackle it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I guess, is getting bipartisan support for policies that create
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: first-time home savings programs. What do you have in mind? Yeah, absolutely.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: So that's a great question.
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: So there is currently a bill being flown in the
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: state Senate, which my boss supports. What that would do
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: is it would be a tax-free savings account for young
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: people buying their first home. It would be up to $ 10, 000
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: they could put into this account, and they could count
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: that against their state taxes to incentivize that first down
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: payment on a home. And I think that's critical, again,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: with young people being stretched thin with the affordability crisis
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: going on, trying to pay for child care, trying to
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: pay off student loans. Having a tax-free account to put
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: money into so that you can actually afford that first home,
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: I think that's a critical step.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about seeding that account with state money?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Is that what that is? No, no.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: So this would be individuals. Individuals would be able to
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: put money into it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: It would be almost like a 529 account specifically for homebuyers.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: And you think that this will help? You know, this
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: is really just putting money away for savings. So how
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: will that help? someone that is incapable of saving anyway?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: What's the advantage for them?
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think a couple of things.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: I think that by having this program, it will just
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: incentivize young people to save more for their first home.
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: I think that if we advertise this program, we say
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: that this is an option for young people to put
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: their money in for their first home.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: I think that'll work. I think that will work wonders.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: I think the 529 program has been very successful in
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: getting people to put money away for their kids' education.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: I think the same exact thing could be done for housing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: You know, James, sometimes when these programs come up, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I've talked about it before with some of the programs
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is doing. By the way, he signed
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: an executive order last week that would allow people that
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: make less than $ 75, 000 to have credit and $ 1, 000 be
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: seeded into an account that would be done every year
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: as long as it lasted to sort of take away
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Social Security and take away that stress of Social Security
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: being gone. By the time someone 18 years old has
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: done that and they're ready to quit working, they would
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: have five hundred thousand dollars cash. It's the same thing
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: as a 401k. If you make less than thirty five
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars, then it's the same program for you. The
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: problem I have with some of these accounts, and let's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: talk about the babies, you know, Donald Trump did that
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: as well. You're going to put $ 1, 000 into an account
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: to seed it for a child born in 2025 and beyond.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: And the hope is that family members will continue to
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: give to that. My opinion is the families that have
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: money will do exactly that. And those that don't and
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: wouldn't do it anyway will. They're going to end up
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: with $ 1, 000 plus compounded interest. When they're 18 years old,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: they're going to end up with about $ 5, 000. So in
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: some ways, I think those types of programs can create
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: a greater divide between the haves and the have-nots. But
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I sort of got off track there. Let's get back
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to you and your campaign to run for the state
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Senate there in New York. And let's talk about your
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: budget in that state. You have an incredibly large budget
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: of over $ 250 billion. It's a lot of money. How
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: do you spend it?
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: Well, the one thing that I always tell people is
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: that budgets are about priorities. It all means are clearly
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: messed up. Our governor proposed a $ 260 billion.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Budget this year.
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: It's probably going to end up in the neighborhood of $ 263,
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: $ 264 billion. It's not even completed.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Yet, by the way. It was due April 1st.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: And here's my simple philosophy, I'm sure you and your
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: viewers agree, is that government money should be focused on
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: the nuts and bolts of what people need, not what
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: we want. It is chock full of special interest money.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: I'll give you a couple examples. Last year, the state
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: legislature appropriated $ 800 million to a film tax credit that
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: for every dollar we invest into it, we lose 70 cents.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: It's a clear giveaway to special interests.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: That's money going straight to Hollywood, right out of the
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: pockets of people in my district. Another $ 400 million went
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: to a similar program, but for Broadway musicals. It's such
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: a contrast. We're giving money away to these types of programs.
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: When there's people in my district, they don't even have
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: access to public water. And so I go back to
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: saying that budgets are about priorities. All these are messed up.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: And those are just two examples of things that need
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: to be changed in our state budget.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And tax on gas, too, in the state of New
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: York is incredibly high. You talk about repealing gas tax.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on that?
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: So right now we have some of the highest gas
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: prices in the country, in New York State.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: And like you point out, the gas tax.
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: My proposal, what it would do is it would continually
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: phase down the gas tax until gas reaches a certain price.
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: I think in the bill that I specifically mentioned online,
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: it would be $ 3. That will probably need to be
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: amended in the near future because that bill was written
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: in 2022. But I think the less taxes, the better,
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: but also just cutting the waste in the government spending.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: My old boss, he introduced a piece of legislation called
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: the Commission on Government Efficiency, or COGE, that if enacted
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: would create a bipartisan panel to root out fraud, waste,
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: and abuse in New York State government. I'll give you
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: another example on that right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Now, too.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: One point two billion dollars of state money has gone
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: to Medicaid premiums for people who don't even live in
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: New York state. And when Albany talks about, oh, a
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: couple million dollars here, a couple billion dollars here, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: think we really lose sight that that's not the government's money.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: That is money from taxpayers that are then voting the
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: bill for these programs. So I think that's a perspective
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: shift that I would like to bring to the New
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: York State Senate if elected.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: We're coming up on another break, and we're going to
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: end our conversation here in just a couple of minutes.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: But before we do, I want to go back to
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: something you said a few minutes ago, and that was
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: the needs of the people, the people that you want
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: to represent in New York. We talked about energy. We
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: talked about home buying. We talked about taxes and fraud
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and all of those things. But to those people that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: are your neighbors there in upstate New York, what do
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they need right now from you, from you? the state
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: house from the country, what are they looking for? As
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you go knock on doors, press the flash, talk to people,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: what are you hearing?
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: I think it's pretty basic. They're looking for a representative
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: who's going to show up. I think they want somebody
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: who's going to hear them out and hear their concerns.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I'll give you an example of this.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: So my opponent, in response to skyrocketing utility bills, has,
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: instead of trying to address the root problem, has continued
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: to put on seminars about how to get people onto
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: government assistance programs for utilities.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: For energy.
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: Now, there's a lot of people, of course, that need
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: those programs. I'm not advocating to abolish those, but.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: We're not getting to the root problem.
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: We're not addressing the root problems here in New York
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: State of how do we get energy prices lower. So
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: I think that's what the people are looking for, not
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: looking for ways to address the symptoms, but ways to
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: address the underlying causes of the problems that we're facing
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: right now.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: His name is James Corll. And James, I'm going to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: give you the last word here. I want to thank
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: you for coming on the program. I really do. I
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Love to hear from young conservative minds like yours. And,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you know, you're full of energy. You're ready to go
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: tackle this thing. And I hope that you have success.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: You win your campaign and you end up in the statehouse.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And as we go to the break, I'm also going
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: to play one of your commercials that you have on Facebook.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I'll be doing that. But I'm going to give you
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the last word here. You're running for the state house.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Tell people why they should vote for you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah. So as a young man in upstate New York,
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: I've seen too many of my friends leave central New
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: York and they leave for good. Democrats always talk about
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• 36:10
  Speaker 6: If that's the case in upstate New York, our future
• 36:12
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  Speaker 9: We need a young representative with a fresh perspective on
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• 36:25
  Speaker 3: James, thank you so much for joining us. We're going
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to listen to that commercial now, but thank you so much.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Thank you for having me, Booker. Young people are leaving
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: New York. And it's costing us. My friends are leaving.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: Not because they want to, but because they have to.
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  Speaker 4: Young people are our future.
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  Speaker 6: If that's true, our future's moving out. Let's fix this
• 36:58
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• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I want to do something a little bit different here
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: in this segment. because something bothered me Sunday night when
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I ran across it on Facebook. I'm originally from Nashville, Tennessee.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I've mentioned that a couple of times. When I was
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: a young child, I was in Nashville and in Brentwood,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: just south of Nashville. And my dad, for whatever reason,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I still to this day don't know, probably will never
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: find out. He's been dead for six years now, so
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I won't be able to ask him at this time anyway.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe one day. Maybe, maybe one day. But I never
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: found out why exactly he wanted to farm because he
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: is from Chicago. He was from Chicago, Illinois, had no
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: experience on a farm, but that's what we did. We
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: bought 11 acres and it was in a bedroom community
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: called Murfreesboro, Tennessee. It's about 25 miles southeast on the
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: way to Chattanooga from Nashville. And that's where I finished
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: growing up. Elementary school, middle school, high school, even went
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: to college there. Back then it was a university town.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee State University is there. it was a sleepy
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: little town, really. It was a small community. It was
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a great place to grow up. I loved it, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I still have a lot of friends there. I still
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: follow them on Facebook, and I also follow the local
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: radio station, and that's where I'm going to go with
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: this segment because of the program that was on Sunday
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: night that caught my attention. Have you heard about 287G?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Do you know what that is, Section 287G of the U.S.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Immigration and Nationality Act? Well, it authorizes the Department of
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Homeland Security to deputize selected state and local law enforcement
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: officers to enforce federal immigration law. So in Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: which is Rutherford County, which by the way, it has
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: grown a lot since I grew up there. We moved
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: there in 1976, I believe. And like I said, it
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: was a sleepy little town. A nice little country town
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: is what it was. Now it's huge. It has exploded.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Nashville has exploded and so has Murfreesboro and Rutherford County.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: It is now the third largest county in the state
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: of Tennessee. You have Memphis, Shelby County, Nashville, Davidson County.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: They're one and two. And then you have Rutherford County.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Murfreesboro is number three. Actually larger than Chattanooga and larger
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: than Knoxville. A couple of other big cities there in
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: the state of Tennessee. The Rutherford County Sheriff is Mike Fitchew,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and he has said that he would never use his
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: deputies to go after illegal immigrants. That's what he said.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: But then there was a little change in the last
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks there in Rutherford County and Murfreesboro. with
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: this Section 287G. Sheriff Fitchew has agreed to this 287G,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: which would allow when they arrest an illegal immigrant and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: there is a detainer for them by ICE, that they
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: will hold the illegal immigrant. To me, it's a no-brainer.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense. Why would you not be for that?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: If this were a regular criminal, let's say that it
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: was someone that had committed murder in Montana, Would Sheriff
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Fitchew and his deputies not hold that person for extradition
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to Montana? Of course they would. So if you have
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: an illegal immigrant that is a criminal, which at this point,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that's really all Donald Trump and the DHS and ICE
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: are rounding up. They're not rounding up children in schools.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: That's not what they're doing. They're not rounding up just
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: illegal immigrants at this point. They're rounding up the criminals,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the ones that have murdered, the ones that have raped.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: That's who they're trying to get off the street. For
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: the life of me, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: want that. Just because they're illegal immigrants, for some reason
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: they want to give these people a pass. That's what
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the left is saying. And when I went to Facebook
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: and I came across this story, it was a live
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: radio program in my former hometown of Murfreesboro, Tennessee. In Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Rutherford County voted heavily for Donald Trump in the 2024 election.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: It was 60-40, 60% Donald Trump, 40% for Kamala Harris.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Close to it. It was a blowout. There is no
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: doubt that Rutherford County, Tennessee, is a red county. It
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: is also a Donald Trump county. It is a MAGA county.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: That's really what it is. So when I came across
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: this story and this show, I was shocked at what
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I heard. I'm going to play some of this for
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: you because I think it's important for us to understand
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: the other perspective and what the other side is saying.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Because what they are saying is nothing like I'm saying.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I say this all the time about illegal immigrants. It's
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: time for them to go. We need to get these
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: criminals out of here. It needs to be done now.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: So when people start talking the way these guys did,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and really what they're doing is calling Sheriff Fitzhugh onto
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: the carpet for making an agreement with the Homeland Security
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: in this 287G. They don't want their deputies to hold
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: criminal illegal aliens in their jail. But I was shocked
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: at what I heard on this local small radio station
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: in Murfreesboro, Tennessee from Ed Raymer. is the guy's name
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: who does the show on Sunday night. Along with him
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: was the Democrat National Committee chairman for Rutherford County. His
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: name is Matt Fee. And here he is talking about
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: what happened two weeks ago when Fichu said, we're not
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: going to do this. We're not going to have our
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: deputies going after illegal immigrants. And then the activism that
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: they created to get people to show up to a
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: council meeting, county government meeting, to try to make their
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: voices heard so that the sheriff would not do this agreement.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Here is the DNC chairman in the county of Rutherford County, Tennessee.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: His name is Matt Fee.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I think I noticed a social media post from someone
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that said, hey, Rutherford County is now pending a 287G
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: agreement with ICE. So just so everybody knows, a 287G
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: is basically like a– it gives– local police ability to
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: do work for ICE in, you know, either as themselves
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: or in the jail or whatever. You know, so having
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: noticed that, you know, that was the first time it
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: had come up. I don't know how long it had
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: been pending, but basically you go to ICE's website and
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: you can see all of the, you know, law enforcement
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: agencies that are pending any kind of agreement with ICE
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: or all the ones that are actually active. And it
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: was noticed, excuse me, you know, Rutherford County is now
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: showing pending for a warrant service officer. So I mentioned, hey,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: you know, if you want to say something about it,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: there's a public safety meeting coming up on Monday. You know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: let's go there and say you want to talk about
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: the sheriff's report.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: And so that's how we got there. There was multiple
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: groups involved, especially RemixTN. They're like an immigrant advocacy group.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: And they did a lot of work with coordinating and
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: getting people to sign up for public comment at that meeting.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: So they go to the public meeting and they make comments.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody that spoke was against this 287G. If you go
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: to ice.gov slash identify and arrest, if you go to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: that website, you will see every state and county and
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: city that is involved with ICE and the 287G agreement.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I can tell you this. I'm looking at the map now. California, Oregon, Washington,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: and Illinois, those are four states that have no agreement
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: with ICE. That is not surprising. You also have a
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: little bit of Delaware, a little bit of Vermont, the
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: entire state of Connecticut, the entire state of New Jersey.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: All of those states have no agreement with ICE, which
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: means these illegal immigrants that are committing crimes and have
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: committed crimes where they came from, are running free in
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: these states, and these states are doing nothing to help
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump and ICE get these people out of here.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: But I want to go back to the radio show
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: on 1450 WGNS in Murfreesboro. Listen to the comments now
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: from Ed Raymer as they continue the conversation.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Here's the rub. At the public safety meeting, as we mentioned, everyone,
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: those that spoke, all against. Now, what we're talking about
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: with ICE, we're talking about the guys that are coming
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: in with the masks, And they don't have to have
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: a reason, to my knowledge. They can come in and
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: just pick you up and take you off and, I guess,
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: do what they want.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a lie. That's not true. And I don't
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: even know why Ed Raymer on this radio show is
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: saying that. He doesn't know what he's talking about, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: he probably shouldn't be talking about it. Both of these
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: guys are leftists. They're Democrats. Again, in a city and
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: a county that was heavily favoring Donald Trump in the
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: 2024 elections. The things that he says are important to
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: understand from the perspective of the left and what they
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: are saying against Donald Trump and the things that his
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: administration is doing. You hear him say that these ICE
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: people are wearing the masks. You know, it's obvious that
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: they watch MSNBC because that's the narrative that they are
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: teaching people over there. Well, they're wearing masks. I've covered
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: it on this show before so that they are not killed.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: It's for their protection is what it's for. Let's go
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: back to Ed Raymer. He is the host of the show.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Let's let him run his mouth a little bit more.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Trump has given them where to do this. They're going
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: to fool around. Someone's going to get hurt. And basically,
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: we don't know who these people are. Right. To my knowledge,
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: they're a bunch of thugs.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: He's talking about ICE there. We don't know who these
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: people are. Well, let me tell you who they are.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Ed Raymer and WGNS.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: They are.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: federal law enforcement officers. They have gone through training. They
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: have gone through background checks. They are wearing masks so
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: that other people don't try to hurt them because leftist, liberal,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: stupid Democrats in some of these cities have tried to
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: hurt them. They have doxed them. Politicians have doxed them.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So why wouldn't they wear a mask? They are not thugs.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: They are federal law enforcement officials. And what you're talking about,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Ed Raymer and WG & S, is dangerous. You are dangerous.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Not Donald Trump and not ICE.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: So here's the thing, right? We were talking about this
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: a little bit earlier before we came on the air.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: And listen how much Matt Fee uses the word right.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I talked about it last week about a linguistic tie-down.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: When someone isn't confident in what they're saying or they're
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: trying to sell you something, they will use right in
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: a rhetorical way. This guy has a real problem with it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: He can't say two sentences without saying right. which is
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: a tie down to further the conversation on something that
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you don't know what you're really talking about. And you're
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: just trying to sell something to someone. Here he goes.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: The agreement that was pending at the time was for
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: a warrant service officer. To my knowledge, what that means
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: is that if someone is brought into the Rutherford County
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Jail and ICE has a civil warrant against that person,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: then Rutherford County Sheriff's deputies can serve that warrant without
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: on that person in the jail. Whereas before, ICE would
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: have to come and do that themselves.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: Okay? Okay.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: So even though it may be, let's call it the
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: least of the bad options in these 287G agreements with ICE,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: to me, the fact of the matter is that Rutherford
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: County is entering into an agreement with ICE. I don't
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: care what model it is. I don't care that you're,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: you know, whether it's the one that sends... deputies out
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: into the community to do, you know, task force work.
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want that one. I don't want them doing
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: anything on ICE behalf.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Why not? Why wouldn't you? Because these are criminals that
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump and ICE are getting out of this country.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: They are bad people. These are people that murdered Lake
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: and Riley, Nungaree. And I could go on, list the
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: names over and over. It happened for years. It's still
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: happening every day. Why wouldn't you want these people out
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: of your country? Do you want them to live next
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: door to you, Matt Fee, Ed Raymer on WGNS radio?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: You want these people for your neighbors? They committed rapes.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: They molested children, murderers. You don't know who they are.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden never knew who they were. None of these
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: people were vetted. So now ICE is making an agreement
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: with a town like Murfreesboro, Tennessee, Rutherford County, Tennessee. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the sheriff there, Mike Fitchew, I actually went to high
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: school and middle school with both of his daughters. They
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to make an agreement there in Rutherford County
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: that the jail will just hold these bad guys that
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: ICE has a detainer on. They would rather have them
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: released onto their streets. And these people think they make
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: any sense. They think Donald Trump is the bad guy,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: that ICE is the bad guy. I want you to
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: understand this perspective because this perspective is out there. all
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: over the country. If it's there in a place like Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: it's everywhere. Let's go on with it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Because it's just like what you said. You know, we
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: see these videos and reports every single day right now
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: where ICE is just disappearing people off the street for
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: almost no reason whatsoever, except for the fact that their
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: color of their.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Skin is.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: A couple of things here. I don't recall seeing videos
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: of ICE disappearing just anybody off the street. And it's
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: not because of the color of their skin either. It's
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: because the crimes that they have committed, they are criminals.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I'll say it again. They are criminals. And these people,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Ed Raymer and Matt Fee, they are lost. They have
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: no idea what they're talking about.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Doesn't look like they should be here.
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Or not that they shouldn't be here, but that, you know.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: No, they don't think they should be here.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: They just assume that they're undocumented.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: And ladies and gentlemen, I want to say this. I
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: don't want to put any words in the chairman of
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: the Democrat Party's mouth. I don't mean to do that.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, this bunch is dangerous.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: This bunch. He's talking about you. He's talking about Donald Trump.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: He's talking about ICE. He's talking about everybody that would
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: have illegal immigrants taken out of this country. That's who
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: they're talking about. In a small town, well, it's grown.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: It's bigger than it used to be, but it's still
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: a good old boy network. In a small place like Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: they voted for Donald Trump 60% compared to 40%. This
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: is the narrative that is being fed to that community
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: there on a local radio station. It's amazing to me.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: Someone is going to get hurt. Someone's going to get killed. Now,
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I know you say, oh, well, that's Murf Burgh, Tennessee.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. They didn't think it would
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: happen in Washington, D.C. either, but it's happening.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: They didn't think it would happen in Washington, D.C., but
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: it is happening. What is he talking about? Well, he's
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: talking about the National Guard coming into Washington, D.C., You see,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: from the left and their perspective, this is tyranny. They
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: believe that Donald Trump is a dictator. That's what they
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: think about Orange Man. And you hear it here in
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: these voices of Ed Raymer and Matt Fee on WGNS Radio.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: That's what they believe. That is the narrative. That is
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: the information that they are putting out. They are putting
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: out propaganda. This is not truth. This is propaganda.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: And now there's talk of Chicago.
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: And now major cities. And I've been watching the news
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  Speaker 5: this weekend. And I know, I know, okay, the cable
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  Speaker 5: news things, I know they need something to keep them
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  Speaker 5: on the air. But many of the states are now,
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  Speaker 5: they're looking at redistricting because of the very problems we're
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: talking about right now.
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  Speaker 3: So he thinks that the leftist states like California are
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  Speaker 3: talking about redistricting. And there's nothing to redistrict in California
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  Speaker 3: and Illinois.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They have gerrymandered those states so badly that conservatives have
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  Speaker 3: absolutely no voice in Congress when it comes to those
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  Speaker 3: states because they have already gerrymandered all they can. The
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  Speaker 3: left is talking about redistricting in those states as a
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  Speaker 3: response to what Texas is doing. It has nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with what Ed Raymer thinks it has to do with.
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  Speaker 5: That's what's causing all this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they don't want to hear from the other side.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, redistricting is because they.
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  Speaker 5: Know in this county don't want to hear from us.
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  Speaker 4: They know that people are upset with the way that
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: things are going.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: The economy.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Your prices are going up.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Right? A right speaker. They drive me crazy. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: for joining us tonight and every night. And don't forget,
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  Speaker 3: you were told 2,000 years ago that you are the
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: salt of the earth. And salt without flavor, it has
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: a great night.
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  Speaker 1: Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.