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Homeless Not Tearless: RHORI Recap with Monica Garcia · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 2: scripted as well. Hey rain drops on today's episode of
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  Speaker 2: Reality with the King. Moni Carlo is back to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the latest episode of the Real Housewives of.
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  Speaker 1: Rhode Island and Baby Monica Garcia.
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  Speaker 2: When I say to you, I mean, okay, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Bravo executives listen to this podcast. Hi, Hey, how
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  Speaker 2: Monica Garcia to be a This is your this is
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  Speaker 2: your world?
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  Speaker 3: It is so crazy Watching this episode specifically, I was
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  Speaker 3: like reminded of so many moments of my season. It
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  Speaker 3: was giving Easter, it was giving soundbath, it was like
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  Speaker 3: it was all the things again. Rom cast I was on.
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  Speaker 1: But listen my podcaster, ACA's baby fast.
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  Speaker 2: We have to get into the nitty gritty. So the
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  Speaker 2: episode kicked off with the continuation. Uh, Rosie's man, who
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  Speaker 2: is like, I'm not gonna say a lounge singer, but
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  Speaker 2: you know he impersonates Frank Sinatra. So it's not Rue
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  Speaker 2: Paul's drag race, it's Rosie's.
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  Speaker 1: Drag race because her boo.
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  Speaker 2: Is a theater singer baby, so he's Yes, they're at
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  Speaker 2: this thing, and the thing that's happening between Liz and
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  Speaker 2: Joe Ellen is insane in the membrane.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Monica, I can't do this any justice.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me about the what you saw and your
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  Speaker 2: reactions from the the hair tuggling, yes, pushing and going
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  Speaker 2: outside one.
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  Speaker 3: Monica, you and I have talked about this last week,
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  Speaker 3: where again it's just Liz feels like so different, like
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  Speaker 3: she's going through it or she's going through something.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Look again, I feel like this is so important. We
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  Speaker 3: are seeing a tiny little clip, yeah, of so many
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  Speaker 3: hours of filming, and this is where I feel like
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  Speaker 3: people don't give enough understanding or grace or anything. We
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  Speaker 3: don't know exactly what was said. We don't know how
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  Speaker 3: long it took him to get pushed to that point.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much that edited out because I know,
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  Speaker 3: for me, when I was filming all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: it'd be like thirty seconds and then they show me
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  Speaker 3: being crazy and I'm like, whoa, what about like the
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  Speaker 3: two hours it took me to get to get there?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have yes? Yes, And you have to keep
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  Speaker 3: that in mind when you're watching these because we're watching little,
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  Speaker 3: tiny clips of probably hours long of film. But I
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  Speaker 3: will say it was very okay. First of all, Joellen,
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  Speaker 3: she needed to back off, she really did. Liz was
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  Speaker 3: not having it. She just wanted to go outside and
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  Speaker 3: smoke a goddamn cigarette in peace. And Joellen, here she come,
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  Speaker 3: going out there like, oh, we can share, like, but
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  Speaker 3: she does not want to share her cigarette with you
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  Speaker 3: at all. She doesn't even want to be in the
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  Speaker 3: same space as you. Let her alone, like pa pa
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  Speaker 3: pass Like I was just sitting there, like girl, leave
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  Speaker 3: her alone, Leave her alone. She wants nothing to do
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  Speaker 3: with you. And she was just on. She really was
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  Speaker 3: on Liz to where I understand, you have the car ride,
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  Speaker 3: you have, you know, the first time they're sitting at
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  Speaker 3: the restaurant, you have the cigarette scene you have when
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  Speaker 3: they come back, like Liz was, it was building up
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  Speaker 3: to where you're just like, leave me the fuck alone,
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  Speaker 3: leave me alone. And it did remind me of Greek
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  Speaker 3: Easter when Angie and I were having our beef and
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  Speaker 3: my mom was just doing the same shit where she
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  Speaker 3: was like, calm down, calm relax, apologize, and you're just like,
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  Speaker 3: you are making it worse. So I have to give
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  Speaker 3: Liz a little bit of okay grace there, because that
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  Speaker 3: is hard when you're already escalated and you have someone
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you're fighting with your man and they
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  Speaker 3: tell you to relax, It's like, don't tell me to
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  Speaker 3: relax right now, it's gonna make it worse, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean to speak for me, because listen, Liz and Alicia
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  Speaker 2: and their best friends.
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  Speaker 1: They've known each other since they were young girls, right, and.
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  Speaker 2: Liz has pretty much got into with her best friend
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  Speaker 2: about Alicia saying she's homeless and and Liz defense Joe
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  Speaker 2: Ellen in the in the the Threesome date, not three
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  Speaker 2: some date, the Oops.
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  Speaker 1: The triple Date.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, in the Triple Date, Joe Ellen is agreeing with
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  Speaker 2: Liz about the fact that aliciha, you know, the homeless
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  Speaker 2: thing was a little weird. And Joe Ellen's husband, who
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  Speaker 2: also have known Alicia since she was younger corroborated that.
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  Speaker 1: Homeless is a stretch, like like stop, it's your point.
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  Speaker 1: Liz's got into.
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  Speaker 2: Alicia and Joe Ellen is like a dog with a
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  Speaker 2: bone and she really wants to talk to Liz. But
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  Speaker 2: Liz is not feeling joe Ellen because she feels like
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  Speaker 2: in that moment Joe Ellen did not have her back
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  Speaker 2: in the car the way she did at the restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she kind of just came off as like this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, holier than thou mediator where they're like, Joe Ellen,
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  Speaker 3: don't act like you don't get in the mud with
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  Speaker 3: all the pigs to like stop it. So, I mean
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  Speaker 3: it was very intense though, like that was that was?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she did, you know, tug on her hair,
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  Speaker 3: she did push her chair. She was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what did you think of that?
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  Speaker 1: So this is a thing I agree with you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, obviously, as a producer, we're not seeing everything. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And you and I both clocked it last week when
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  Speaker 2: you said something's different about Liz that we're seeing now
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  Speaker 2: that we didn't see when the season started. Liz appear
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  Speaker 2: that something is happening, and I'm not going to attribute
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  Speaker 2: something that people online are saying, I'm not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not fair, and she's not here to defeat, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the things that you got here
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  Speaker 2: saying online about whether or not y'all think she's doing something.
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  Speaker 2: And y'all know what I mean when I say that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go there with it now in on fairness, though, Monica,
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  Speaker 2: I do understand why people are saying that because her
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  Speaker 2: behavior appears to be somebody that is under something, and
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  Speaker 2: I do get it.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't assign that to her because that's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: But I understand the speculation.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But when I watch that.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Liz, excuse me, Liz looks like the Megan Doll
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  Speaker 2: in the Horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: She has the buzz down.
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  Speaker 2: Brown hair, and she is crazy and there's something Monica
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  Speaker 2: behind the eyes that is giving cuckoo.
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  Speaker 1: For Coco puffs because which is underr hair. She had
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  Speaker 1: Ramona crazy eyes like, and then she puts her chair.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Liz listen, Lizen is operating other a different
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  Speaker 1: sort of like situation. Yeah, honestly, And I mean kind
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  Speaker 1: saying that if I.
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  Speaker 3: Had done that, I would have been immediately removed and
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  Speaker 3: never heard of again.
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  Speaker 1: You would have been admitted to a mental institution.
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  Speaker 3: Take away her children. She is unfit and unstable. She
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  Speaker 3: is mentally ill. This is not Zeus. All the things
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  Speaker 3: that they always said, like give me a break, and
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  Speaker 3: I've never done anything like that, by.
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  Speaker 2: The way, Okay, so with that being said, that body
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  Speaker 2: who would get those attributes done to them when you,
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  Speaker 2: in your defense, you never physically did anything to nobody. No,
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  Speaker 2: you just a words myth and they said, oh, she's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: straight jacket mental, all these things.
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  Speaker 1: Liz is actually doing something physical.
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  Speaker 2: She's pushing, she's tugging hare It's something is.
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  Speaker 1: Going on in the facial expression.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think, Like, Uh, it's you being on
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  Speaker 2: reality television. Is Liz operating in her right state as
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  Speaker 2: you were watching it?
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  Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying though. That's what I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what is going on? WHI are we missing here? Because
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  Speaker 3: it's just a completely different person than the beginning. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just convinced that there's stuff going on
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes that we're just not privy to, and
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  Speaker 3: she's dealing with stuff internally and it's coming out this way.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Nothing else makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't make sense. And what is so interesting
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  Speaker 2: is no shade to the.
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  Speaker 1: Other Roe Island housewives.
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  Speaker 2: Rosie's man is not that talented to where you girls
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  Speaker 2: aren't focused on the real drama in front of you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they're like, oh, we're living for Frank
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  Speaker 2: Sinatra Junior seeking his greatest hits at a lipsing battle.
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  Speaker 2: These girls are getting into it and you ladies aren't
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  Speaker 2: doing anything. And I thought that was weird for me,
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  Speaker 2: Like nobody wants to say, uh, what the fuck is happening.
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  Speaker 3: I get broke, like something had to have been edited out,
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  Speaker 3: Like there had to have been stuff that we're missing.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't because if you at the end of
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  Speaker 3: that scene too, it shows Ashley I crying and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, when did she start crying? I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I guess she cries all the time, but still we
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  Speaker 3: like missed all of that that had to come from somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she wasn't crying at the music. There's no way.
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  Speaker 4: Well I was, yeah, no, all I'm like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 4: I will see you in Las Vegas, like or at
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  Speaker 4: the Brownstone in Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah on my TV screen. So that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And then what we what we see after that is
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  Speaker 2: Alisha and her family.
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  Speaker 1: And I can watch Alicia at her family all day.
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  Speaker 3: They're so funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're beyond funny.
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  Speaker 2: So Monica, in this scene, Alicia brings up you know
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  Speaker 2: what Liz did one of her family members, I think
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  Speaker 2: her aunt was like, do you think she's jealous? And she,
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  Speaker 2: which I thought was so dope, She's like, she's not
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  Speaker 2: jealous of me. I don't have a perfect life. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing for her to be jealous of. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that at all. Like, you know, like most girls would
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  Speaker 2: love to say, well, you know she's mad because I
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  Speaker 2: got what she want. No, Alicia's like, no, that isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: But did you cast a shade where the family was
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  Speaker 2: sort of accusing Liz being on medication and if she.
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  Speaker 1: Took her meds. Yeah? Yeah, So to Monica.
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  Speaker 3: Alicia was playing like, no, I don't know what she takes.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: She was still trying to keep it above approach with
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  Speaker 3: that whole situation too. She was like no, say what now, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: She's like I'm not even gonna go there.
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  Speaker 1: That to me, Okay, we're gonna have real conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think because one thing you and I both know,
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  Speaker 2: having family, Yeah, like the world does, right, the older
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  Speaker 2: generation the family, they're gonna spill the tea. So for
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  Speaker 2: us to see lou bless me.
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  Speaker 1: For us to see.
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  Speaker 2: Liz out of character, then we see the US and
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  Speaker 2: whomever accuse her of not taking her meds. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like they were trying to add validity to what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: And I hate Listen, I don't want to be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: But again, because I'm not gonna say it's whether or
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  Speaker 1: not it's true, but right, but do.
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  Speaker 3: You see are you do you think that they know
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  Speaker 3: something we don't know, and that's why they're like implying.
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  Speaker 2: That absolutely, just like just like Dola knows who who
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  Speaker 2: Brian's fucking Yeah, like Rosie knows Kelsey was not with
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  Speaker 2: that guy for two years.
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  Speaker 1: These girls know everything.
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  Speaker 2: And I think to your point, Live, I mean, Alicia
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  Speaker 2: was being smart by not uh confirming anything, And I
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  Speaker 2: thought to myself, even when she has every right to
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  Speaker 2: throw Liz under the bus, Alicia is sort of like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there. And I love the
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  Speaker 2: fact that even still she had her back and Liz,
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  Speaker 2: if you're watching, that's a real friend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this whole thing did not need to go
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  Speaker 3: like as deep as it's gone at all. It's gotten
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  Speaker 3: very very very serious over something that like really and truthfully,
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  Speaker 3: I was glad that they brought the family into it
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  Speaker 3: because I want to hear what the family's thoughts are wanted,
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  Speaker 3: because Liz is like, your family would be mortified if
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  Speaker 3: they heard you saying that. Okay, great, Let's ask the
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  Speaker 3: family then and see if the family is mortified or
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  Speaker 3: if they're like, well whatever, you know. So I was
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  Speaker 3: glad that they showed the entire family for that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I did too, I did too, so and again I
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  Speaker 2: love seeing Alicia with her family life. We see Liz
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  Speaker 2: talk about her fall out with Alicia to Kelsey and Dolores,
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  Speaker 2: and in this scene, look, Liz is trying to explain,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the backstory about what's going on and really
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  Speaker 2: try to say, like, look, Joe, Ellen's fake.
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  Speaker 1: The Alicia think that is my truth.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think when you saw Dolores and Kelsey sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of not challenge her. That are they afraid of Liz?
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  Speaker 3: I think that they are walking a very fine line
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  Speaker 3: between not wanting to get on her bad side and
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  Speaker 3: trying to stay respectful while also trying to Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, they're walking on eggshell It felt like they're
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  Speaker 3: walking on eggs shells, you know what I mean. Like
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  Speaker 3: it felt a little bit like and they might know more,
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  Speaker 3: They might know more as to why that they're not
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  Speaker 3: confronting her fully, Like if that was anyone else, like
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  Speaker 3: if that were Rosie or Ashley, I feel like they
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  Speaker 3: would have gone all in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they would have devoured her. They would have been like,
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck is your problem? Like you're being a
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  Speaker 3: bitch like that took like you pushed her fucking chair.
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  Speaker 3: You're crazy, you know. But like they're being very very
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  Speaker 3: cautious and intentional with how they're moving with Liz for sure,
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I listen, I think Liz runs
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  Speaker 2: that whole town.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh listen. So that's why I whan.
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  Speaker 2: Kelsey was like, look, I've gotten into it with Liz,
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  Speaker 2: and they flashed back to her Liz getting into it
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  Speaker 2: about Dino, who apparently is face of life in prison allegedly,
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  Speaker 2: allegedly allegedly, So look, they all know that Liz can
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  Speaker 2: go there. I just am surprised that it took your
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  Speaker 2: best friend to say she was homeless, and you've been
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  Speaker 2: offended by that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I think I said this to you
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  Speaker 1: last week.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more so that Liz looks at
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  Speaker 2: Alicia like, I'm the big, big, big one.
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  Speaker 1: You're the little one. We're on the same show.
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  Speaker 2: Stop trying to create some steam for a storyline so
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  Speaker 2: that you can be where I'm at. I think Liz
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, I think Liz considers herself to be the
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  Speaker 2: queen Bee of the show. Yeah, and you know how
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  Speaker 2: like some girls not all hey, heathery're with me?
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  Speaker 1: You know, like some girls wear what like well, girls
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  Speaker 1: used to being the queen bee and then when the.
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  Speaker 2: Not so popular one starts to get attention, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's Liz and Alicia.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, like, yeah, best friends and you
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  Speaker 2: said something and I'm like, well, that's her fucking interpretation of.
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  Speaker 1: It, and that's her live experience.
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  Speaker 2: I don't challenge you at all when you say, how
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  Speaker 2: your experience on Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's Monica's experience.
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  Speaker 2: Who am I to to tell Monica how to feel
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  Speaker 2: about something she lived that I did not live.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's insane.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, completely, hundred percent. I think that she is struggling.
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  Speaker 3: I think that something's going on. I think that we're
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  Speaker 3: not seeing the same Liss we saw in the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: And it'll be interesting to see, like the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the season, if it comes out why or if it's
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  Speaker 3: just all this other stuff that's going on online. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. It's so bizarre when she met up with
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  Speaker 3: Joe Ellen to have their little conversation that that conversation,
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  Speaker 3: to me, was where I was like, okay, what is
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  Speaker 3: going on? That to me was almost worse than the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: whatever song bar Situ karaoke that wep. That was almost
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  Speaker 3: worse to me, don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she came in you know what you know how
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: people love and use the phrase she came in hot. Yes, No,
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  Speaker 2: that bitch came in hot because the target were screeching.
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  Speaker 1: She pulled up, the tiger was hot, the engine was hot.
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  Speaker 1: She came out hot.
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  Speaker 3: Right, She's like, I don't want to be here, but
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  Speaker 3: they're making me do this. That's what it was, one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: The producers called me, they said, here's your skelechule for
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  Speaker 2: the week.
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  Speaker 1: On Tuesday at two pm. You're telling me with Joe Ellen.
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  Speaker 1: And she rolled her eyes, like, why the fuck I
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  Speaker 1: gotta fill with Joe Ellen. She said, it's my job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to show up and I appreciate you Liz
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  Speaker 1: for doing that. But Liz did.
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  Speaker 2: Not want to be there, and she instantly started to
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  Speaker 2: attack Joe Ellen. Now, I never thought, are you telling
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong? And if I'm wrong, good, trust me,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'm fine. Right When Joe Ellen's like we're best friends,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: were best friend for best friends, and.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Liza's like, you're not my best friend? Why you keep
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: saying that?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I was so glad that she said that, to be honest,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: because yeah, I was so glad because I'm like, I've
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: never gotten that vibe from you guys this entire at all. Ever. No,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And so when Liz was like, you've gotta stop saying
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: we're best friends where I'm not, I was like, okay,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: thank you. I was so glad she said that, because
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that was so bizarre to me that she kept saying
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that they could have been close, you know, but I
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: was never getting the vibe best friends. I never got
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: that vibe ever.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, and I'm in this scene. So when they
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: decided to sit down as a one on one, Liz
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: looks stunning. Ellen looks stunning. She has some new tracks
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: in her hair. The hair it was obvious.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Joe Ella's hair is very bountiful and full.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I said, oh, she added some tracks in it. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: love it. They both looked go. Just Joe Ellen to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: me is.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I think Joe Ellen is like, this is my chance
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to be a star, and I'm doing whatever it takes
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to be one. She is riding hard to get a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: rise out of Liz, and I think Liz caught it,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and I think Liz was like, that's why I think
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: when Liz said, fuck you, I know what you're doing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Like, Liz clock what Joe Ellen's doing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: She's like, not.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Only did you insert yourself in the Ruler storyline with
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Brian and the affair, Yeah, where now it's setting yourselfing
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to something where me and my actual best friend Alicia's
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: going through.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Joe Ellen to me, was there to poke
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: at Liz. And I think Liz realized that, which is
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: why she left the lunch early.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, production came through with you know, the footage
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: of every single time Joellen has gotten involved in been
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: mess see and started situations and you know all the things.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: They ran that back real quick, and I just, yeah,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the whole thing is just it feels bizarre. It feels
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: bizarre a little bit to me, just because it's taken
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: this very weird turn that something that was so small
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: is now so serious and Liz is not fucking with it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: She is not. She's like absolutely not not giving this
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: an inch, Like she's ten toes down, ten toes down.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: She drew away like Kuela Deville bit.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: She was like huh.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: She was like, I did not want to be here.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I knew I didn't want to be here. I'm leaving goodbye,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm out.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: She gives me mob mob wives boss Like yeah, does.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: She she means what she says.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: She says what she means, and I think she is
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: so fascinating to watch.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with you.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: In this scene, which is funny because there was nothing
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: physical happening happening excuse me, but this scene between Liz
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and Joellen. I did feel it was worse than it
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: was worse, the pushing and the shoving and the hair
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: tuggling and all of that. There was definitely something going
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: on with Liz here.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was worse for sure, Like that was so
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: intense and there was no getting anywhere, Like it was
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: like boom boom boom, Like there was no progress, there
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: was not. I think it made it worse.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure, No, it was. It made it worse.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It made it worse, worse. What did you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Think about Kelsey's scene with her boyfriend Bill where she
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: wants to talk about their relationship up And I'll say
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: this much for me, I forgot about that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I like jumped ahead. I forgot that happened.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, the reason, no, no, trust me.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The only reason I'm going back to it because it
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: was it was a nonscene scene to me. Yeah, the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: only reason I'm going back to it is because I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: just wanted to make note that this scene for me,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: confirmed what Rosie said about Kelsey and her ex being
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: broken up for two years.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: It's this. I just don't think.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: A man would entertain dealing with a woman this fast
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: getting out of a ten year relationship where she was
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a sugar baby and.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They're like baby, baby, baby and all the things. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: she's like, are we like, what did you say exclusive
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: or did you say something else? I don't remember the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: exact wording she used. And he was like, yeah, oh,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I want to know how. I want to know how
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: she moved on so fast from that man that gave
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: her so much for ten years. It's not I mean,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: it's I don't know unless she never loved him, I guess,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and like, I mean, I have no idea. But he
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: was not having her ex continue to pay for her life.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: He was like, that's going to stop. I will tell you.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And he was like, you've put me through how long enough?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, how long has this been going on?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my god? We forgot about the most important part,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: which was he was celibate for a year for her.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And she was like, and I tested him, I tried to, like.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: She was like, you could tell she probably tried to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: catch him. She probably had girls that were like, oh
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you and then and he passed all her tests. That
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: man was celibate for a year for her while he
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: waited for her.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That okay, that is the most important part.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Do you do you believe it?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do kind of. I feel like the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: fact that she was like, and I know for a fact,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: like she tested that man. She had women out here
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: testing that man. She had her friends or whoever fucking
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: sliding in his dms. She heard when he was going
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: out with the boys. She had girls, she sent girls
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: and was like, try and get in his pants. No,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I believe it. And I also think he is so whooped.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: He is so I one hundred percent believe it. He
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: is so so. I mean a man that would wait
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: while she is literally with someone else, Yeah, that's crazy.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And on top of that, so I believe it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Said what I said, I believe it. I believe it now.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, now that I'm remembering that her Kelsey's mom loves
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Bill and calls him son in law. So with that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: being said, you're right, he had he did wait for her.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: He waited for her. He is one of those Yeah,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that was p whipped by her.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: And the reason why Bill, please don't listen to this.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I think Kelsey knows.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: That she can easily control him, and I don't think
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Kelsey likes that and a man she's serious with. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: think I think she's the type of girl that likes
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit of you know, toxicness
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: in a man.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: That just seems to get her off.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And I think I think her mom knows, like this
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: is a good guy, this is the guy you marry, whip.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But I think Kelsey likes a thrill, you know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And I I think Bill is somebody that like, listen,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: like what most men do, I know, men personally straight
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: men who say this is my wife or future wife.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to place her on the mantle, like I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: know this is the woman I'm supposed to marry. I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: just not ready to stop fucking everybody just yet, so
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: let me do my thing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But I know that when I'm ready, I know that's her.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I think Kelsey Lissen built like that, like I know
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: he's my husband, but I'm not trying to be Joelle
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: when they have three.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Songs with other people in the neighborhood allegedly.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, alleged, all alleged.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a very bizarre conversation to me
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: just because I was just like, huh, I don't know
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: any man that would totally stand by and wait for
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you while you're hooking up and living with somebody else,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and like consciously aware that you've put me through tests
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: to see if I cheat on you. And I mean, goddamn,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I know men that even if you ask them if
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: they're talking to someone else, they're like, we're done, We're done.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to be accused of this. I'm not
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: a cheater. I'm not going to take it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Da da da da.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Let alone setting up a whole op to catch your
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: boo possibly chasing tail. I mean, that is serious. That
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: is serious. You know it's true.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It's not true. That's laughing. It's so true, it's so true.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So that's why Black we have to get back to
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Bath because that seemed to be sort of like a
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: highlight in some of the things that's happening in the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: rumor mail.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And it was nice seeing rue La La back because.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't stop lying. I mean, I know, I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: so okay. This is the first it I have with
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the franchise. This franchise is killing it. I love all
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the women. What the fuck is she doing there at
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: this point? I it was another scene where she comes
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: on and she's like, oh, I've been so sick I
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: couldn't even respond to your tag stop goodbye, goodbye. No,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: she has a fucking parl and I don't have a
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: goddamn snowflake. Get the fuck out of here. This is
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: enough enough, that is. That's my first problem with this
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: franchise is what the hell she is doing on payroll
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: at this point? Because I know, for real, for real,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of expectations for full time housewives
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and she is a Heather Gay in this situation, barely
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: pulling her goddamn weight, showing up when the fuck she wants,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: and she's got a job. That's crazy, that's crazy. Anyways,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: what did you think?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: For real?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it's fucking true. There is no way she
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: should be considered a full time housewife. I'm sorry, No,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: the fuck out of here. She's missed like nine out
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of ten of the events. What the hell is happening?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It's true, Carlos, It's true.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: When you're right, you're right true. That's why my theory
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: is I need someone to clip this up.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Was rue Ma La always supposed to be a housewife
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: or did she get her?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: What is it her?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's a pearl, but I'm not sure. I'm
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure, but I'm like, you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: in the uh is it oyster the pearls?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I swear it's a pearl, but maybe not.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I need to know if she was all
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: a housewife or what he consider a friend.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But once the Brian drama happened and they said, towards the.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: End, make her one because it's eight housewives, right, it
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: is eight something like that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it is. Let me see it. Yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Alicia one, two, three, four or five? Sun, it's seven?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: We got Liz, Rosie, Ashle, Alicia. I'm counting seven here, one, two, three,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: four or five? Wait one.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Way I'm writing this, Jones.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Wait, do I see Chelsey.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Rosie, Alicia, Liz, Joe, Ellen, Ashley? Is that all of them?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: How many did you count? I?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Well, now I'm only counting seven one, two, three four?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: But are we forgetting some say it again?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Are we forgetting someone.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Say it again? Name them? Name them? Name them?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Rosie, Kelsey, Alisha, Ashley, Liz, Joellen, Rosie, Rula. There's eight?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: No, you said Rosie twice?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Okay, there's seven there's seven.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Listen, you said it right, Ashley Kelsey, Liz, Rula, Rosie.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: That's five right, then we have Alicia and Joelle and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: seven and Rula. I said, Rula, Oh god damn yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I said, Rula, you already thinking about her?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Like literally, I literally feel like we're forgetting someone. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: don't know why. I actually always thought there were like eight,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: but I guess not.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I think the Laura's kind of made. Oh maybe that's right,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: saying Ashley.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Kelsey, Liz, Rula, Rosie, Yeah, Alicia j Yeah, Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Now, look that's why for me, rue La La, if
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you're listening, let us know if you were made a
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: housewife after they stopped filming the season, because me and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Monica like you. But we are honest on this podcast,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and our honesty is always the best policy.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And the policy.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: States that your insurance as a housewife is running low, and.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: We I don't get it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's the math and mathing and the.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: No and no. I just if she was a friend
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: of it would make sense. I would be like this. Yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I would be like, oh, she's a busy friend of
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: to be honest, but as a housewife, no, I don't
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: She's never at anything, so it's so it's so weird.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And seriously, I'm like, can we put lease get y'all.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's happening in next week's episode, like let
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: her know about the video y'all saw a Brian at
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the part that happened five episodes ago.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: So weird. That was I could never I would have
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: told her right away, but I will say, we cannot forget.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: The most interesting thing that Rula said in her five
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: second cameo was that she is bringing up Okay, sorry,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Joellen is bringing up Rula's marriage and ship with Brian
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: to deflect from Joellen's infidelity. So that was a big
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: little drop there.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I always go back to what
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: they choose to show us exactly exactly, and they chose
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to show us when Joe Ellen said something along the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: lines of her saying like I was I was slutty
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: in my twenties.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: And I had three.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Songs and people think this, yeah, and it's sounded like.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: They're building they're building blocks.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's given credence.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And I think what may happen next week is when
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Rula finds out that once again, Joe Ellen's a part
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of a video. I think she's gonna say, we all
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: know you cheated on your husband, because Rula could be
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: could be the type of person, and we know people
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like this in reality television. Let me spill all your
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: tea so they won't focus on mine.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Heather, truly.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, the fucks do.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: We know about howther? Literally name me one goddamn thing
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: we know about Hoather. You can't say that she's Mormon,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: all right, and you can't say that she was married
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: once to a Mormon. What else is there? She likes
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: a mattress, exactly, quaint proven, exactly exactly. You have a
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: friend of Rula out here giving more literally, Oh my gosh.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Oh god.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I could see it. I could
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: see it. Here's the thing. One thing about this cast,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: We've said it a million times. They are onions, honey,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: and I just know we are barely scratching the surface
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: with them, and they are fascinating. They're beautiful. This has
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: been like such a good cast, and so I'm sure
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: we're gonna there's gonna be more and more and more
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: and more to come, and I cannot wait. I'm sure
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Joellen's gonna have her day. Right now, she's doing her
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: best to run around and keep the focus on everyone else.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: But that changes, That will always change and come back
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: at you. And yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. It will be so rain drops, stay
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: tuned because that is going to happen. And next week
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: we get to see Rula finally find out about this
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: video with Brian and we shall see what happens.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: With that guy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Actually, so pumped for next week is like, yeahabb night, Yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. It looks so cute. I love it. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: can't wait.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: be good, but no, so rain jobs.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Let Monica and I know are you team Liz or
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: team Joe Allen on the comments and Monica, I will
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: see you next week.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 40:15
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• 40:20
  Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 40:24
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• 40:26
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• 40:29
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