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We Can't Discourage Heroic Behavior · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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  Speaker 1: your day and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, tenth day of December. I'm Wes, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me. I realized very quickly yesterday I have to
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  Speaker 2: do a major fast, a quick change, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: all right, to go back to my Nutcracker weekend, A
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  Speaker 2: quick change. I have to make a very rapid shift
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  Speaker 2: from thinking about the being in the ballet of the
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  Speaker 2: Nutcracker Ballet and this weekend I've got or not weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's Thursday Friday. This week the graduation ceremonies
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  Speaker 2: for Columbus State University, the December graduation, so I will
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  Speaker 2: be announcing the names again of the graduates. Thursday night
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  Speaker 2: is for the hooding ceremony and then the graduation ceremonies
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  Speaker 2: on Friday. So yeah, it kind of just occurred to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly on my calendar, certainly on my radar.
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  Speaker 2: Something I've been doing for quite some time now and
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  Speaker 2: something I enjoy doing.
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  Speaker 3: But got to get my head right.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big change from mother Ginger to the graduation announcer.
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  Speaker 2: One year, the two events were happening the same weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and I was having to I guess that was quick changes.
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  Speaker 2: I was having to go from makeup to no makeup,
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  Speaker 2: back to makeup, and then no makeup back to makeup.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bit hectic doing all of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I would do it again. I just can't promise that
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  Speaker 2: I can still get all the makeup off each time.
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  Speaker 2: I still have some on this morning. It's it's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: The final show was Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I've just got a little bit of glue, as talking
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  Speaker 2: about that yesterday from the the eyelashes, but anyway, still
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  Speaker 2: got a little bit of the Uh. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what is that stuff called that goes above your eye eyeliner?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that that's not eyeliner, or what
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  Speaker 2: is that stuff called the mass scarra?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't know any of the terms. Everybody says,
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  Speaker 2: why don't you do your own makeup? I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know what the stuff's called. I just know there's blue
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  Speaker 2: stuff that goes above my eyes, and it's got the
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  Speaker 2: glue from the eyelashes, so it's turned that blue and
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  Speaker 2: I've just got a tiny little bit of it left.
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  Speaker 2: Trying my best to get that out a little bit
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  Speaker 2: at a time. Just a little bit at a time.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's get into a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: We got some stories that it's kind of one of
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  Speaker 2: those deals where we've had some developments in some stories.
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  Speaker 2: The Daniel Penny case in New York. He was found
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  Speaker 2: not guilty. That's caused some upheaval. I mean, it's this
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  Speaker 2: is one of those things where we've had this stretch
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  Speaker 2: of time that we haven't had the threats of violence
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  Speaker 2: and rioting, even though it's I mean, a peaceful protesting
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  Speaker 2: that just happens to involve burning things and threatening people
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  Speaker 2: and all of that. We had a break from that for.
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  Speaker 3: A little while, and now.
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  Speaker 2: It seems just this one case has caused that. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk more about that in a minute. An arrest made
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  Speaker 2: in the United Healthcare CEO shooting. They've named the suspect
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  Speaker 2: Luigi Mangioni. I guess I don't like saying names of
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  Speaker 2: people who really seem to like to have their names
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  Speaker 2: broadcast of the world.
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  Speaker 3: It's worth.
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  Speaker 2: At once, and I realize as the story goes on,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps we'll be saying it more. But I just I
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  Speaker 2: feel like when we start talking about school shooters. When
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  Speaker 2: we start talking about folks that are attempted assassins or
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  Speaker 2: actual alleged assassins, I don't know that they need any
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  Speaker 2: extra attention. I don't know that giving them extra attention
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  Speaker 2: and saying their name repeatedly is necessarily a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: We should be doing things to discourage this kind of activity,
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  Speaker 2: not encourage it. Now, just as a quick note, and
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the topic for this week, but just as
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  Speaker 2: or this for today or the.
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  Speaker 3: Week, but just TV shows are and this.
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  Speaker 2: Includes news TV shows, they do a pretty good job
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  Speaker 2: of laying out ways that you could commit these crimes
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  Speaker 2: and possibly not get caught or make it hard to
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  Speaker 2: get caught. You know, some shows really just kind of
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  Speaker 2: lay things out. They almost give you a description of
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  Speaker 2: how to do it. Now, thus far, we're not getting
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people that are doing crimes like this
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  Speaker 2: and getting away with it. But you know, when the
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  Speaker 2: news tells you every movement by this person and all
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  Speaker 2: the things that they were doing to help, you know,
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  Speaker 2: try to get away with it, and possibly toying with
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  Speaker 2: police and all those things, it just could be a
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  Speaker 2: little concerning. And then you get these you know how
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  Speaker 2: to get Away with Murder type shows or Dexter, and
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  Speaker 2: I like Dexter. I didn't watch How to get Away
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  Speaker 2: with Murder. It's probably a perfectly fine show, but you
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  Speaker 2: start laying it out. We got books, we got all
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  Speaker 2: these you know, you buy books tell you how to
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  Speaker 2: make explosives.
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  Speaker 3: It's just there's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: It makes things kind of you know, at least we're
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  Speaker 2: getting closer. I think to a manual on how to
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  Speaker 2: get away with some of this stuff. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe not. So that was another a
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  Speaker 2: big story for the day. I want to go back
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  Speaker 2: to the Daniel pennything because this is obviously this is
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  Speaker 2: one of those cases that when it happened, I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people, I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that are seeking law and order in the country, justice
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  Speaker 2: in the country. I think there were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people saying, well, this guy sounds like he was protecting
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  Speaker 2: people on the subway. I'm not going to go thro
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  Speaker 2: the whole case, but you know, the story is Jordan
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  Speaker 2: Neely was the guy's name, who was homeless street performer.
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  Speaker 2: According to the story, and according to witnesses, he got
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  Speaker 2: on to a subway car and started making threats to passengers,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when Daniel Penny, who himself a former marine,
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  Speaker 2: put Neely in a choke hold to restrain him, and
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  Speaker 2: in doing so for six minutes basically to subdue him,
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  Speaker 2: ended up killing him by having him in that choke hold,
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  Speaker 2: I guess for six minutes. Penny was eventually arrested. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't arrested right away. Some time passed and there were
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  Speaker 2: concerns in the public. Oh my gosh, a black man
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  Speaker 2: was choked out by a white man on a subway.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the concern was. That's what the outrage was.
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  Speaker 2: So eventually he was arrested, charged with manslaughter criminally negligent homicide,
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  Speaker 2: which is a mouthful. And finally, the jury not able
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  Speaker 2: to make a unanimous decision on the manslaughter charge, the
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  Speaker 2: judge dismissed it, told the jury to reach a verdict
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  Speaker 2: on the lesser charge, and that one ultimately came back
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  Speaker 2: to a verdict of not guilty. So there was reaction
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  Speaker 2: in the courtroom yesterday. Some folks cheered, some folks did not.
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  Speaker 2: Neelie's family obviously was emotional. His father was angry, was
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  Speaker 2: taken out of the courtroom there were some folks outside
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom, outside the courthouse complaining about him being taken
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  Speaker 2: out because of his reaction, while the folks who were
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  Speaker 2: cheering were allowed to stay in there. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the exact scene was. Not being there and not
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  Speaker 2: knowing what exactly happened, it's hard to have a judgment
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  Speaker 2: on that. We are a society now of people who
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  Speaker 2: feel like they have to have an opinion on everything.
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  Speaker 2: They feel like they're entitled to an opinion on everything,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe you are. Maybe you are entitled to an
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  Speaker 2: opinion on everything. I'm not comfortable with that for me,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't know. I don't know what the scene
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  Speaker 2: was there. I guess I can understand how some people
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  Speaker 2: who witnessed the father of someone who had been killed
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  Speaker 2: being escorted out for being disappointed in the verdict or
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  Speaker 2: angry with the verdict.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what he did. I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: he reacted.
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  Speaker 2: But people cheering out in the courtroom not typically something
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  Speaker 2: that I would think would happen. But in this case,
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  Speaker 2: there was probably family there for Daniel Penny. There were
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  Speaker 2: supporters there of him. Most of the people interviewed. I
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  Speaker 2: guess the witnesses on the on the on the subway
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  Speaker 2: car said he was a hero, that he stopped something
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  Speaker 2: bad from happening. This is someone who came on, made threats,
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  Speaker 2: gave the impression he was willing and able to hurt
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  Speaker 2: people on that train, and Daniel Penny, who had the
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  Speaker 2: training and the means and the physical ability to do it,
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  Speaker 2: subdued him. Subdued him a bit too long, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't nothing that I saw gave the impression that the
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  Speaker 2: guy was trying to and according to the charges, nothing
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  Speaker 2: said he was trying to kill Jordan Neely just to
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  Speaker 2: subdue him. And that's why you get a charge of
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  Speaker 2: manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide, you know, that's how you
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  Speaker 2: get indicted on those things. So yeah, with the training,
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  Speaker 2: with the means, with the ability, it happened reminds me
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  Speaker 2: a bit of you know, the movie con Air. You know,
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  Speaker 2: in the movie con Air, there's uh, you know, Nicholas
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  Speaker 2: Cage playing a guy who he's you know, trying to
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  Speaker 2: do the right thing, and because he has the training,
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  Speaker 2: people think that he is, you know, himself sort of
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  Speaker 2: a weapon and capable of doing it and all these
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  Speaker 2: sorts of things. So it's kind of in that vein.
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  Speaker 2: He had the training, he was capable, he did it,
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  Speaker 2: and it went a little too far with it. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously I don't think anybody wanted to see Jordan nearly killed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone on the train wanted it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that Daniel Penny wanted it. But ultimately this
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  Speaker 2: has gone through the legal process and now we have
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  Speaker 2: folks protesting, and we have folks.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was immediate.
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  Speaker 2: Outside the courthouse, there were there were people there used
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  Speaker 2: to or this reemergence of Black Lives Matter.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know. I mean, I was.
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  Speaker 2: Aware black Lives Matter wasn't going away completely, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the things that have come out about Black
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  Speaker 2: Lives Matter, I didn't know that we were just still
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  Speaker 2: having or ready for them to come back on the scene.
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  Speaker 2: I understand this is kind of one of those scenes
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  Speaker 2: where they might emerge, and that's what they've done. They've
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  Speaker 2: been there, I guess through a lot of this whole process.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and hearing anger and vitriol in the direction
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  Speaker 2: of the court process. It is interesting the way we
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  Speaker 2: handle things when it comes to our justice system. We
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  Speaker 2: basically will say that you know, you have to go
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  Speaker 2: with You have to go with the jury's decision. We
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  Speaker 2: heard that about Hunter Biden. We've heard that about Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: We've heard that thrown around. You have to go with
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  Speaker 2: what the jury's decision is. That's the way our system works.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we were taught about our system. We were
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  Speaker 2: taught that in school. Hey we have It's not a
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  Speaker 2: perfect system, but it's the best system that you can
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  Speaker 2: come up with. You have a jury of your peers,
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  Speaker 2: they make a decision, and that's ultimately going to be
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  Speaker 2: the decision. You'd rather them get it wrong and let
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  Speaker 2: someone walk free then get it wrong and have someone
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  Speaker 2: spend the rest of their life in jail or worse,
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  Speaker 2: or the death penalty or one of those kind of things. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a perfect system. Sometimes people who are guilty walk,
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes people who are innocent are convicted. It's the way
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  Speaker 2: the system works sometimes. Overall, I think we get it
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  Speaker 2: right more than we get it wrong. Again my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on it. I don't have the
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  Speaker 2: stats in front of me, but I do think that
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  Speaker 2: we get it right more than we get it wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So this is another opportunity for an organization that is
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  Speaker 2: a political organization like Black Lives Matter, to get involved
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  Speaker 2: and to once again try to use race as a
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  Speaker 2: way to divide us. I don't know of anything in
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  Speaker 2: this particular case other than the skin of the two
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  Speaker 2: men involved. Now, if you look at the skin of
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  Speaker 2: the other people involved on the train, they all were
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  Speaker 2: not They all didn't look like Daniel Penny. Some of
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  Speaker 2: them looked like Jordan Neely. And some of the people
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  Speaker 2: that were on the train who were afraid, who were
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  Speaker 2: afraid for their lives, who were afraid for their safety,
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  Speaker 2: who were afraid that they weren't going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to get to their destination alive because of the way
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  Speaker 2: that Jordan Neely was acting, didn't look like Daniel Penny.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them looked like Jordan Neely. So to try
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  Speaker 2: to say that this case is exclusively about race, to
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  Speaker 2: me is a giant mistake. But we've made this mistake
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  Speaker 2: before as a society. Now I understand you go back
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  Speaker 2: many years and we've made this mistake the other direction
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  Speaker 2: in society repeatedly. So I can't sit here and say
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  Speaker 2: that there's absolutely no basis for people to be upset
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  Speaker 2: and start looking to race to it, But at some
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  Speaker 2: point as a society, we have to stop looking at
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  Speaker 2: everything through the glasses of our ethnic background, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: We're all guilty of it to some degree, but sadly
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  Speaker 2: what's considered worthy of guilt has changed. The game has changed.
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  Speaker 2: When I was a kid and we were growing up,
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  Speaker 2: we were told, hey, you really should follow the calls,
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  Speaker 2: the cries, the pleas from doctor Martin Luther King. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's judge people not by the color of their skin,
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  Speaker 2: content of their character. That's what we should do, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what we were taught. And there are many Americans
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  Speaker 2: on both sides that are trying to do just that.
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  Speaker 2: But we're told that that's not good enough, and that
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  Speaker 2: you know, we should be looking at cases like this
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  Speaker 2: and trying to see the racism in it, trying to
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  Speaker 2: find the racism in it, trying to acknowledge it, trying
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  Speaker 2: to dig in until we can see it and know
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  Speaker 2: that it's there and figure out ways that we can
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  Speaker 2: use it. I don't know politically, because that's what we're
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  Speaker 2: being told, is that this is more of a political
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  Speaker 2: thing rather than just someone who who was known to
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  Speaker 2: be a little erratic at times and had some according
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  Speaker 2: to witnesses, threatening behavior on the train made people uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 2: and one person was able to step up and do
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  Speaker 2: the right thing. See, doing the right thing, once upon
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  Speaker 2: a time was something that we were encouraged to do.
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  Speaker 3: Doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: If your kids are at school and they see bullies
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  Speaker 2: picking on a kid, there was a time when we
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  Speaker 2: encouraged kids to say, hey, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Leave them alone.
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  Speaker 2: We don't always encourage that anymore. Sometimes it's because we're
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  Speaker 2: worried that our kid will then become bullied and that
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  Speaker 2: our kid will be harassed. That's kind of reflective of society,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. We're told not to step up and speak out,
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  Speaker 2: don't put on that red hat, because if you put
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  Speaker 2: on that red hat in public, someone might drag you
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  Speaker 2: out of your car and beat you up. And that's
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  Speaker 2: not okay. Why can't we do the right thing. Why
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  Speaker 2: can't we truly judge people on their behavior. Why can't
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  Speaker 2: we look at someone who gets on a subway train
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  Speaker 2: and not see them as a black man or a
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  Speaker 2: white man, but see them as This person got on
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  Speaker 2: a train. Witnesses say he started acting crazy and threatened
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  Speaker 2: to kill people. And that's when another man who cares
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  Speaker 2: his race, decided I'm not going to let you hurt
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  Speaker 2: these people, and prevented it from happening, and by all
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  Speaker 2: accounts accidentally killed him. That's where you get cases where
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  Speaker 2: you say manslaughter criminally negligent homicide, but based on the
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  Speaker 2: information presented in the trial, this jury was.
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  Speaker 3: Not able to convict him.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way the system is supposed to work. That's
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  Speaker 2: how it's supposed to play out. And if this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the first step in another series of
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  Speaker 2: civil unrest in the country, are we getting this coming
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  Speaker 2: in January? Remember what happened in twenty seventeen as Trump
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  Speaker 2: was being sworn in. Remember what happened as people started
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  Speaker 2: to take to the streets and women had those hats on.
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  Speaker 2: I can't I can say, but those special hats on
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  Speaker 2: the JD Vance hats, you know. I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: the cat comment was really about, was those hats. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is I just I don't know that we're we're ready
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  Speaker 2: for this. I don't know that we're ready for this again,
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  Speaker 2: not in a mass way. I hope we don't have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with this again. Even Whoopy Goldberg for crying
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  Speaker 2: out loud as saying we don't have to be upset
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  Speaker 2: all the time, in on high alert, take care of
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  Speaker 2: your family, enjoy the holidays.
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  Speaker 3: She wasn't speaking about this particular case. She's just talking
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  Speaker 3: about the.
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  Speaker 2: New Trump administration. And maybe, you know, we can enjoy
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  Speaker 2: the rest of our December, at least get to Inauguration
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  Speaker 2: the break, Time magazine has revealed it shortlist for twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty fourth Person of the Year. It includes Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 2: Kate Middleton, Elon Musk, Benjamin Nett, and Yahoo. Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: is on the list.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you hear these.
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  Speaker 3: There's a little hyperbole there, but I don't know, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: There could be some truth in there, depending on how
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be a positive look because they say who's
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  Speaker 2: had the biggest impact on the world, for better or worse.
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  Speaker 2: Last year it was Taylor Swift. That's who the pick
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  Speaker 2: was a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it could be Joe Rogan's year. But
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  Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to wait and see how they
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  Speaker 2: finally make the call on this. Well, let's talk egnog.
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  Speaker 2: It's everywhere this time of year. Spice, spiked, flavored, smothered covered.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of hash browns for those last two. All right,
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  Speaker 2: three percent say they love it, thirty two percent say
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  Speaker 2: percent say that they like it. I couldn't tell you
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  Speaker 2: the last time I had eggnog. It's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I did at the Nutcracker over the weekend. One of
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  Speaker 2: eggnog cookies. That's as close to having eggnog as I've
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  Speaker 2: actually had in a while. A new survey found fifty
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  Speaker 2: two percent of couples who will be heading home for
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  Speaker 2: the holidays plan to, you know, do some more grown
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily let's get on. Forty one percent of the
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  Speaker 2: single survey said that they would hook up with people
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  Speaker 2: just as often, if not more, during the holidays compared
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  Speaker 2: It's not exclusive to their childhood benroom, but I think
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  Speaker 2: people seem to be very comfortable with that as an idea.
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  Speaker 2: visiting their friends and family over the holidays, they feel
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  Speaker 2: seventy one percent of them said they need a vacation
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  Speaker 2: New York topping the list, Denver, Houston, Chicago, and La
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  Speaker 2: rounding out. I guess the top five there for the list.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have guessed La being a prime.
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  Speaker 3: City for a fireplace. A couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Newly weeds in Philadelphia may not be the first people
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  Speaker 2: to ever get married, but they are the oldest. Bernie
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  Speaker 2: Littman and Marjorie Fiterman tied the knot at the senior
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  Speaker 2: living facility where they met. Bernie is one hundred, Marjorie
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and two. Guinness World Records recently certified them
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  Speaker 2: in the facility quickly fell in love. Well you it
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  Speaker 2: Bernie credits his longevity to staying up to date on
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  Speaker 2: world events. Marjorie insists that drinking buttermilk has helped.
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  Speaker 3: Her get to one hundred and two.
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  Speaker 2: Would you drink a lot of buttermilk if it would
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  Speaker 2: that was your sole purpose was to get you.
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  Speaker 3: There, that'll do it for this Tuesday edition of the show.
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