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So but that said, let me introduce the dream team here. This
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is a core that we have for the Sports Exchange. Every now and then
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we'll add another voice here and there, but this is it. This is
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a core for Jacob Christner. Welcome back. I do today. I'm doing
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all right and jb ellis how's it going? Guys? All right? Glad
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to have you on again. And last but out leavest George General Electric Icorn.
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Yeah, yeah, uncle George here, ready for it all we need
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is David to make fun of him? All right, Well, Electric,
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I'll see what I can do. Although you're more in the entertainment business than
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I am, I'm sure you can get David. All Right. We're going
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to be all over the map tonight, so we're gonna probably talk about just
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about every major sport on the planet. We're gonna lead off with baseball,
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Okay. The Baseball Writers Association of America Manager of the Year winners for twenty
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twenty three are Skip Schumacher and Brandon Hyde. I'm gonna go ahead and mention
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the numbers. Skip Schumacher eighty four and seventy eight for the Marlins. He
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took the Marlins an NL wild card berth Miami obviously was thirty three and fourteen,
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was seven oh two winning percentage in one run games. Brandon Hyde on
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the other side from Baltimore one on one sixty one record al E's champs Baltimore
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first one hundred wins season since nineteen eighty which manager's accomplishment is more impressive.
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Jacob Kristner, Oh, Baltimore. Then I appreciate Skip Schumacher big time,
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especially by itself, especially running a team that was kind of in a doldrums
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and doing all that kind of stuff. But Baltimore a couple of years earlier,
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like fifty one wins or something some insanity. And it's the same with
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Texas going from one hundred losses to a World Series. It's like, we're
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not in this situation anymore where you get one hundred losses and you get five
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years till you get the ninety losses. That's what you used to get when
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you were that bad for years. Everybody now it doesn't matter what the team
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is, it matters the city. It can be taxes, it can be
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the kind of manager, can you get the guy's friend? Over All kinds
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of different things going, and you can get a manager now even if you
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have a bad job, if you have bad record before, like just going
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off to another sport. A few years ago, Tim Tebow had to save
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the day for Denver to go get Peyton Manny. Otherwise he was going to
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the Niners, you know, to be able to get to that thing,
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because he wasn't going to play for a four win team. Now this day
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and age, that kind of thing would do. That would go straight to
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him to be able to help because you can build things now it's a different
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world. So but I'm just saying at the same time, though, Baltimore
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without question, just because they were and I saw that they were starting to
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come, but they were dead for a long time. Joe. You know,
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as much as I respect what Baltimore did, they're rebuilding that franchise,
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I think Brandon Hyde had much more talent than what they had in Miami.
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So you know, I'm gonna have to go with Schumacher. Not that either
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one did it do a great job, two phenomenal choices, but I think
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you know, when you're working with probably one of the best farm systems in
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baseball and you've had some phenomenal talent come up to the major leagues, you
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know they're starting to mature and get better. You know, I think in
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Miami they haven't had that luxury of doing that at making the playoffs was phenomenal
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in Miami. No one expected anything from the Marlins. So to me,
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I think that that's the obvious choice. George, that's a tough one,
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Scott. I mean, you told us about Schumacher many many times. I
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remember kind of one hundred and eight stitches, and I know you're you're very
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closely you watch Don Mattingley up front, and then of course Schumacher had some
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big shoes to fill. So he did a terrific job, no question about
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it, with the Miami Marlins. And I know what you're saying, JB.
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But I still got to go with I still got to go with the
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Orioles. Hide. I mean, two years ago, you got the worst
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team, worst record in Major League Baseball. The Orioles had just two short
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seasons ago, and then last year he got him a little bit a little
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bit, quite a bit better over five hundred and then this hundred wins season.
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Obviously, the stain on it is the fact that they couldn't advance in
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the playoffs. And if our listeners don't know this, it is true that
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the Baseball Writers vote on these awards before the playoffs start, So these awards
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are for a regular season only, So you don't want to hold anything against
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Hide for falling in the in the playoffs. But you know, it was
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a terrific job. It is a terrific job that he did. Baltimore was
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just they were bad, bad, bad. It's you know, like a
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lot of teams were. So I'm going to go with Hide on this one.
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But boy, Schumacher's right up there too. What a great season.
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Well you know what I'm going along with jbl It's okay. I believe Miami
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for sure and Schumacher, and I'll tell you why. The last time the
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Marlins had a winning record for one hundred and sixty two games, you'd have
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to go back to two thousand and three, and that's the year that they
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went out there and won at all, when Miguel Cabrera was there. So
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I don't know, I mean skipped. Schumacher is a really nice guy.
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He's well respected in the clubhouse, is a really good coaching staff. I
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know he's got Jody Reid on there, who I actually had an opportunity to
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speak to and write about earlier in the year. So you know, it's
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pretty good. I liked this topic because he got two and two on this,
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So that just goes to show you that when you compare it, it's
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just like Chuck Loolery two and two. Well there you go. Yeah,
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Well that's a good point, though, Jacob, you have two and two.
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I mean you can speak make cases for both, and that's why.
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But like Joe Ellis and I Miami, and like Jacob and George Baltimore.
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It's a beautiful thing. All right. Well, obviously this story is not
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going away, and we're not helping it any either. So Jim Marball was
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due process served, Jacob No, but I think it's given him an I
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think it's going to speed up his process to go to the NFL. And
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I do. And he's got himself and he's trying to get But for one
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thing, I had no question they were going to be depend State on Saturday
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anyway, so he wasn't allowed to go coach on Now why he's getting him
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why he's trying to beat this. But the biggest situation is, even if
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he would get elsewhere, he gets off on something that gets gets off from
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this case, he's I think he's going to the NFL. I think it
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just sped it all up. And just because there's and it's like in the
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NFL is saying they would honor any kind of suspension, but that just means
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he staying. That just means he staying that in Michigan until he gets to
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the playoffs, So you would have a suspension to honor anyway. Okay,
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fair enough, what do you think, Joe? Listen, the Big Ten
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rushed to a decision based on schools complaining, athletic departments complaining, you know,
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they don't have all the facts yet. And I'm confident he's not the
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only one doing it. You know, remember the movie Blue Chips with Nick
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Nolty shack about how you know they were how he paid players to come to
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school, and you know, it was always the unwritten thing, how that
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was done. I'm sure there's many other coaches in college football that may or
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may not be studying, watching practices and things like that. Who cares you
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still going to go out and execute to play the game? You know,
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be better until you have all the facts. How are you suspending the guy?
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You know? I mean they did it on a friday and a holiday
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weekend, on a holiday so that when Michigan went to file the appeal it
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couldn't be heard to begin with. It was just a disgusting display by the
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Big Ten. You know, I expect more from them because when you look
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at conferences, at major conferences in college football, the Big Ten actually to
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me, always showed that they had integrity. This to me just kind of
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took it away, you know, because they've always had a higher standard and
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I just don't see it in this case, Okay, George, Yeah,
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I think it was a rush to judgment too. It was. It's a
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situation. We all know what's going on behind the scenes, really. I
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mean, the Big ten coaches they don't like Jim Harbaugh. They never have.
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The NCAA could be the same situation. Hierarchy doesn't like him. I
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mean, you know, people forget that he already had three games early in
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the year, remember non conference games. He was suspended by his own athletic
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director, Lord Manuel, and I don't have much respect for that guy anymore.
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I'm sorry. He needed to back Jim up as much as he could.
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They needed to be standing together and you know, we're going to fight
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this together, and this sort of thing. Well the three games, remember,
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guys, Well that was for the COVID nineteen violations where he did some
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things that weren't supposed to be done with recruiting and contacting student athletes, et
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cetera. That hasn't even been resolved yet. That's still in the NCAA office
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being worked on. Now, you got this situation, and you know there
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could be more punishments coming down. Let's just call it the way it is.
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They don't want him in college football. It's quite obvious that coaches,
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the athletic directors the Big Ten. But he's out there to prove this year
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and his team has been proving it right on the grid iron that they mean
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business and that's why they're undefeated. They're gonna win still even if he's not
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there. I predict, well, I'm going to piggyback off Joe a little
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bit before I do that, though. One of our analysts last night on
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an Inside the pix and called this a good, first class witch hunt,
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which I believe it really is. Now I'll piggyback off of Joe. You're
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right, okay, Joe. A lot of times people Russia judgment. Now
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think about that suspension where they couldn't have timed it well because they forced him
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to miss the Penn State game because they had no way to appeal before a
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holiday. If that isn't a first class chess maneuver, I don't know what
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is right. You tell me so. I think the Big Ten has definitely
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handled this very poorly. And like you said, Joe, okay, unless
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you have all the facts, Okay, how can you be premature in your
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decision? Now? Go into the chat room for a moment. Okay,
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and glad to have big Dan Davis on do you guys think that Harvall you
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Wedndsley injunction? You know, so on Friday here's my opinion on this and
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then I'm gonna turn it over you guys. For some reason or another,
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I think Harvall does not coach against Maryland. That they're hoping to get them
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back by the Ohio State game. Dan, that's what I think will happen,
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that you'll get two games out of it. But I'll leave it at
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that, so I'll give Jacob first cracket. Dan's question, Well, one
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of the things is this is TV. I brought this up with a TV
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likes to control a narrative. I was saying this about them in the Minnesota
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Iowa game that there's no question in my mind that they did not. They
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were trying to get and they were if it was a close game, they
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were going to say no because they didn't want Iowa to get in a big
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IB on G championship game. That's going to happen anyway, just because the
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rest of the West is horrible. But they would do this with Michigan.
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They would do that because guess what they'll do to get him the way from
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Maryland because they can beat Maryland without Harball. They want the ratings for Michigan
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and Ohio State with Harball back. They want that and that the TV will
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control these things. But let's just this is the thing with these witch hunts.
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Do you want to know what we used to have when people were going
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for witch hunts, whether regardless of which side somebody was on one person to
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say f off and a lot of people following him or her even you know
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what I'm saying, If we want to go to that now, you'll have
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one, and then the rest are scared. The rest are scared. There's
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money, it's it's money, it's whatever the thing is. They might threaten
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to take the thing. They're afraid of boosters. It's like boosters run everything.
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They give all this stupid money to tell about Jimbo Fisher or Mel Tucker.
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But it's like everybody's afraid to tell them, no, we don't.
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It's like somebody's afraid that's this was a no big time. There's things we
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see on the news all times should be a no. But people are afraid,
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and they got to stop being afraid I'm gonna say it. Man up.
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Okay, But the point is, and I'm gonna ask you again,
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Jacob, because I don't know if you've got the full nature of my question.
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Okay, we know what's a witch hunt. So my question is,
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do you I think you mentioned it a little bit you anticipate Harbaugh to be
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coaching against Ohio State but not against Maryland. Is that correct? Yep,
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that's what I was saying ratings. That's why I meant by that right now.
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Okay, Dan, I hope that answers your question. But Joe,
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you get a crack at it too. Yeah, I mean, in all
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lotnesty I depending on how quick the court here's the case, I think that
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they're going to reinstate him. You know, I don't think that I'm with
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Michigan here. I don't think it's the big tense call to suspend them in
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this particular situation. And you know, I'm I'm appalled by it, you
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know because if everything that I've heard from the story, you know, you
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have Ohio State involved, and you know that would be like the Halffields of
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the McCoys. You know, if the half fields of the McCoy did something
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you're gonna believe it. They're just enemies. Can't go by that. You've
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gotta have proof. And if you've gotta have proof by now, someone would
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have seen it. It'd be something on ESPN twenty four hours a day showing
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the proof. Where's the proof, scot, What proof do we have that
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Jim Harbo has done this? This has been going off like three weeks,
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four weeks. Now, what proof do we have? Well, right,
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we've heard that statement. I haven't seen any proof that's valid. All you
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have at ESPN or a bunch of haters. And Paul fine Mom is a
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leading one of that group. Well I know that, but Stephen A.
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Smith isn't far behind. I can care less about either of them anyways.
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But the reality is is I haven't seen a kind of create evidence concrete.
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I might add that should keep them off the field, But the main thing
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is is they still now beat Penn State, they still are third in the
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college football playoffs, and c They're not going out there and buying into all
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this malarkey. They're not. They're going to say whatever they do on the
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field, and they're going to treat a suspension or so like a regular injury
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or anything else like that. So the College Football Playoff people look smarter than
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all of them because they're trying to be as objective and neutral as they can
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and that so it doesn't affect Michigan's standing in the National Championship pissure, All
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right, George, you get the last starting through up real quick. Sure,
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you know what Michigan should do just to fit into the college football landscape.
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They should leave and join the ACC or at the SEC. I give
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the big like you to the Big ten for this, that's what they should
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do. They'd make a boatload of money because they are one of the premier
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programs in the country. You know what you want to disc expect us Bye
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bye Ohio State. Go try and be relevant, Plague ped State or Iowa
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or Minnesota. You know what, you're relevant because you play Michigan every year.
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So maybe be thankful and stop crying like a two year old because you're
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irrelevant without Michigan. So you know what, Michigan, go somewhere else because
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you're the key to the conference U C L a USC there has been They're
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Hager's on Michigan. Is this conference without Michigan, There's nobody of this conference.
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Well even help you on this too, by the way, Michigan went
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on Saturday and sir one thousand victory is a program. So there you go,
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Joe. That should help you bolster your comments. All right, George,
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now you do it the last word up, JB. Those are outstanding
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comments. I don't know what the judge is going to rule. I got
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no idea. I'm not an expert on legal law. And the hearing is
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going to be Friday morning and the team's got to get on a plane again
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to go to Maryland, and that I'm not happy about that either, Like
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this judge couldn't may have made it Thursday or something, you know, to
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make a decision, or to at least hear the case the arguments. It's
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not going to be a final decision. So the question is will he or
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will he not issue a restraining order a temporary restaining order. I say he
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will not, and I know he's from Washington County backyard of ann Arbor,
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but I'm going to say this guy's not going to do it. So Jim
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will not be able to coach on Saturday. I don't know what it portrays
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into the following week against Ohio's date fair enough. Okay, well you know
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what, Jacob, you were kind of dancing around the next topic, and
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now you don't have to dance anymore. Jim Old Fisher's buy out of Texas
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A and M is or seventy six point eight million, and what that actually
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constitutes, by the way, is twenty six three hundred and one dollars per
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day. We're talking Bobby Vania money boy. How about bringing Bobby Vania up
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tonight and the payments within sixty days will be nineteen point four million, then
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within one hundred and twenty days of seven point two seven million, and then
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from twenty twenty five to twenty thirty one to seven point two seven million,
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and he gets paid and he could still get another job. So if we're
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going to go out there and pounce on this college football, what is jim
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Harball without Jimbo Fisher? All right, Jacob, you are dancing now,
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you can start talking absolutely, and he's just getting all that money to try
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to catch up to Jab's money. But no, yeah, no, these
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these salaries, this is another thing. Boosters are absolutely ridiculous. They're always
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desperate, constantly desperate, wanting to quote unquote win now and then you get
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these ridiculous salaries, and then they have these, then they have the adhdu
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of fish they take are you know, they have all that, and then
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it's and then they have to get rid of them. They weren't good to
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begin with. Mel Tucker had won his best year of his dang life.
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He was never gonna have another one, even with this whole situation. He's
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not that good of a coach. But they jump to conclusions so much.
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That's what they do. And it's like, and this is they don't they
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deserved this for I mean, they deserve that having to pay this out to
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jimbo Fisher. They deserve this for having to do it with I mean,
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the whole situation, even paying mel Tucker. And and they're mil Tucker.
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I don't want to hear melt Tucker right now. I understand, but yeah,
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but I'm just using that five. Let me do an example of these
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stupid contracts worse, get off mel Tucker, Okay, yeah, otherwise I'll
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have to be Tony reality and you don't want me to do. Yeah,
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we're gonna get it's gonna get a lot, but it's gonna get a lot
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worse. Unfortunately, because somebody. You know, it will get a lot
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worse because Texas A and M is gonna have to pay one hundred and fifty
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million dollars and you include his assistant coaches. So Tony really I hate that
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show. Yeah, and we remember Kevin someone too well. Now that night
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you can bring him up because you know what, he was in a band
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coach over there and they jumped the gun on him. Kevin was as good
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as Jimbo Fisher. So now I don't have to be Tony reality. You
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brought me, you brought something up. They made sense, Okay, we
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can talk about yeah, but it's like they kept It's like they're never now
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they're talking now. I have heard that they are talking about trying. This
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is Stephen A trying to make the stories, of course, trying to get
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Dion there. Yeah, good luck and it's like good luck. And it's
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like Texas and M they do. They are so desperate to be Texas,
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to be the longhornse to get that kind of footprint. It's never going to
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happen. And it's like you don't and the boosters get worse and more desperate
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each time. Sure, but when you have won national championship since nineteen thirty,
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ninety, before Mike was born. How desperate can you get the NAT
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you tell me? Seriously? I mean, and guess what if it isn't
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worth anything? Hello, Texas were joining you in the SEC so we can
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and then Oklahoma's right there, so you know, you get to see the
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old Longhards and you get the Aggies, and the Aggies are des sperado.
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And don't expect me to seem because I guarantee this. There's no memory X
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glass here, just a fair amount of caffeine before me. MEMORYX. You
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know, were you singing to the thing that you're singing to and all of
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a sudden you're breaking glass? Don't you remember that? Oh? Absolutely no,
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No, But that's the but those are the things. It's like they
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want that. It's like the Kevin Somewhat thing is a it's to me,
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it is the lovely Smith of college football, with what the Bears did to
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him. It's like being at ten and six. It's like when you're good,
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should be able to keep your job, but now a role. Okay,
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now I see I have to acknowledge the good and the bad. Some
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crazy reason you are starting to get on all, but don't roll too much
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because we only have fifty six minutes, So I go ahead, sorry,
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go ahead, Joe. Listen. The contracts of college coaches are absurd.
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The fact that we're telling kids you're getting an education you don't need to be
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paid at the university is going to make all this money now we had in
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Nil's which is like the Wild West of payments rather than just paying them a
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salary. Makes no sense. But we'll give the college coach seventy six million.
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And he's not even a winning coach. His greatest accomplishment was he worked
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for Bobby Bounden. Wow. Wow, he wasn't Bobby Bounden. He worked
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for him. Now, if you want to get Bobby Bounden seventy six million,
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I'm all for it. The man was a great coach. Do you
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have both Fisher? Maybe get Fisher nuts. Maybe they're better because he wasn't
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the answer. Bye Bye, Texas A and M your irrelevant. I'll tell
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you Sideline guys are Fisher kicked them in the nuts alone. I'm not supposed
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to have those before I have my colon asked, we don't bring up nuts,
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okay, but yeah, you know from what people tell me anyways.
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But yeah, no, I Sideline guys are on a roll with these topics
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today. Man, I brought you guys. Okay, all right, Ni
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Corn, Well, you know we got a situation where the year after year
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they've underperformed Texas A and M and they haven't won a conference title since nineteen
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ninety eight. I mean, this program is in deep doo doo right now.
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They thought Fisher was going to rescue them, but I'm telling you what
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they made a huge mistake. And what's happening is what you guys said earlier.
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You got these alumni, these rich alumni, rich parents, whatever their
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connection is, dictating now who who you're going to hire as head coaches.
25:56
That's crazy, that is absurd. Should have never let that happen. And
26:00
in these college campuses. And I know football is the big money maker.
26:03
Everybody knows that, but as far as dictating who's going to coach the kids,
26:08
I don't like it one bit. And you know, money talks,
26:11
but a lot of money's been squandered over when you got to fire these guys
26:15
because of ineptitude or whatever reason, they can't get you a winning program.
26:19
And here we go again. It's happened before. But I mean, yeah,
26:25
it's a lot of money. It's not all being paid by the university
26:26
though, because some of that stuff was a lot of donor money for the
26:30
big shots that forked all this money out. So hey, Jeorge, I'll
26:34
give you four words. Okay, boosters, rich oil men. Of course
26:40
in Detroit, we don't have oil men out there. We definitely don't have
26:44
that. Okay, So rich oil men down in Texas A and m or
26:48
Desperado nineteen thirty nine and boosters. Well yeah, so that's what I have
26:53
over there. Now I have a stat of the week. Nobody has to
26:56
comment, and because this is a personal one for me, okay, ready,
27:00
the stant of the week Jared Goff versus the LA Chargers twenty three for
27:06
thirty three for three hundred and thirty three yards, two touchdowns, one hundred
27:10
and twenty two point four rating. Why is this the stand of the week?
27:12
Because number one, I'm a three guy. You have the twenty three
27:15
is one thing, okay, then you have my lucky number thirty three.
27:18
And if that isn't good enough, you got three hundred and thirty three yards.
27:22
That's why it made the Sports Exchange tonight, not worry about the two
27:23
touchdowns one hundred and twenty two point four rating because that helped the Lions win.
27:29
But remember twenty three for thirty three thirty three hundred and thirty three yards.
27:33
See I'm getting tongued out under three. He's all right. Nobody asked
27:36
to comment, just want to get it off my chest. Saw a great
27:37
stet. It is what it is. But I know one thing that coach
27:41
Don Sheil had always taught me is you have to feed off the strength of
27:45
your people. And when it comes to this topic, this said Jacob Chrisner's
27:49
name written all over it. His favorite quarterback is coming back Justin Fields and
27:56
set the return versus the Lions after a four game after and now look at
28:00
the body language of this guy. He's starting to cry like the Michigan coach.
28:06
Where's he laughing? I don't know what it is. Every year it's
28:08
the SPORTSS chain. Our objective is to entertaining. Our goal is to inform,
28:15
educate and entertain. And now I think Jacob Christman's got the entertaining a
28:21
right. How do you feel that Justin Field's is going to Ford Field?
28:29
I've never seen this guy laugh. Man, God, this guy seems like
28:34
the New Yorker has saved this guy from himself. Wow, hey, Joe,
28:42
have you ever seen this guy laugh like this before? No, I
28:45
feel like I'm watching the Joker like a Batman movie. And you got a
28:51
front road seat. You've got this guy here. It was constantly ranting and
28:55
raven about in Justin Fields, and you know who I hate, but the
29:02
but no, he's gonna get No, he's had seven weeks left. His
29:04
seven weeks are Detroit, Minnesota, Detroit, Minnesota, Cleveland, Atlanta,
29:10
and one more And those like five of those are just ridiculous defenses. And
29:18
it's like, man, it's remember though, this week here in the NFL
29:22
we have the Bears and Alliance and the return of just In Fields. Enjoy
29:27
your forty one to thirteen win. But but do I mean but but but
29:32
but the field the field swifties will have fun with his two big players while
29:37
they're down thirty eight to thirty eight to three. But so but the But
29:41
the big thing is he's already he gets hurt every single year. So forget
29:47
the fans. Let's say this part. He's dynamic, but he's still so
29:49
raw for a third year guy, still it's like what we saw in these
29:55
four games with Tyson Baigen as good as as good as as far as talent.
30:00
No, but you want to know what we saw three percent saparate.
30:04
You want to know what we see with You wanna know what we see with
30:07
Tyler with Justin this year fourteen that Tyson didn't Yeah, Tyson didn't get sacked.
30:15
He got the ball off quickly, he threw. He threw some big
30:18
boy he was, whether he got sacked or whether he got intercepted or not.
30:22
And that's the thing with that's the thing with that with Justin, the
30:26
biggest issue he just doesn't let go of the ball. He will in the
30:30
first quarter just because he's gonna be excitable. Then something is going to happen
30:36
where he's not going to see something. He's gonna get skitched like he always
30:38
does, and then it's just going to get worse. So, since you
30:44
went through all that laughing and then nearly turned into a red apple with my
30:48
bad eyes, give me a score again about what was I said? Forty
30:52
one thirteen destroy Okay, Well, there you go, Detroit fans. You
30:55
got Jacob Christner telling it like it is far from Howard Kosel, but definitely
30:59
our version of miss your opinion, and definitely a person who has a lot
31:03
of passion and compassion for Justin Fields. It's just it looks like Fields is
31:07
gonna get ragged by the Lions. All right, Joe, go ahead,
31:11
So I mean, unfortunately he's better than Tyson Badget, so you got to
31:17
play him. Secondly, it's the coaching. If you look at last year
31:22
Justin Fields compared to this year Justin Fields, they're obviously instructing him not to
31:27
run out of the pocket. And when you have someone that is a mobile
31:33
quarterback, you have to teach him how to go through his reads and if
31:37
they're not there and you want to run, then you run, not to
31:41
stay there and take sacks. He has the skill set to get out of
31:45
the pocket and to go. You have to coach him and build your offense
31:49
around that. This coaching staff has yet to do that. The offensive line
31:55
is not very good, so you have to roll him out more ice and
32:00
badge. It may have been sacked less, but he doesn't have the talent.
32:02
He's a you know, a great story coming out of West Virginia,
32:07
out of Shepherd College. That's a great story. Is he ready to be
32:10
an NFL quarterback yet? No? So yeah, if you have field,
32:14
you got to play him. You know you're gonna get the number one pick
32:17
and probably the number two pick the right You're going so enjoy that. If
32:22
you want to go in another quarterback, you can. But I don't think
32:25
that's the problem. The problem is the coaching. You have to coach to
32:29
your strengths, build the offense around the quarterback you drafted and make it work.
32:35
You brought in talent for him, but you're still you're telling him not
32:37
to arn it into the pocket. It's just bad coaching and it's hard to
32:42
watch. One thing I want to say to you, Joe, and this
32:45
is the big thing. This is a big thing. You brought this part
32:47
up. Is he good enough for the NFL thing? We're gonna say no
32:52
because it's completely obvious. But here's the deal. He threw some big that
33:00
throw he did at the end of the Carolina game to the CeAl it Justin
33:04
doesn't throw that ball. Justin doesn't make those throws unless they're wide open.
33:09
That was a gutsy throw that what may Beijit is not ready for the NFL,
33:14
No, but he makes up for it and having guts, a lot
33:17
of gumption he's made. He made some of the throws and stuff, and
33:21
yeah he got picked. He got picked quite a bit. Three touchdown,
33:23
six interceptions. But the thing is what's going to make Justin If he's going
33:29
to make it these last seven weeks, he's got to show that kind of
33:32
gumption. He cannot be worried about throwing. He's got regards of what's gonna
33:37
happen. He's got to do it. He can't get skittish like that.
33:42
All right, Joe, give me a prediction for that football game a Lions
33:45
and the Bears. Don't watch it, go go to Applebee's. I got
33:51
with some friends, all right, But your requirement is to give me a
33:55
score. I don't care if you watch it. I don't know it's say
34:01
forty nine to seventeen. Okay, you did your job. No, I
34:06
don't care what you're doing on Sunday. Exfinitely come down a story. George
34:13
Ahead, I said thirteen. Well, you know the Lions over the last
34:22
few years have had trouble with mobile quarterbacks. Okay, so I'm gonna give
34:27
a little bit of shout out to him, because if he can. If
34:30
they'll let him do a little bit more running this coming Sunday, they could
34:36
have a closer game than most people are predicting. The fact of the matter
34:40
is is the man does look tenant about there. Like you said, he's
34:44
skittish. He looks like he's afraid, he's hesitant. And it does fall
34:50
back on coaching. The quarterbacks coach, the offensive coordinator, the head coach.
34:54
They're all directing what they want him to do. You know that.
34:58
But I'm just saying, if the mobility comes an issue and they do let
35:00
him run a little bit more, the Lions have shown, at least the
35:04
last couple of years, they're not good at that. So that being said,
35:07
Scott, I'm gonna say Lions thirty three, the Bears twelve twelve.
35:15
Well, that's nice. I was gonna go thirty three thirteen, get a
35:17
three tame alive thirty three thirteen. But you know what, in the end,
35:22
what's going to happen is Matt eber Flus is going to be a Monday
35:27
casualty at the end of the year. And I call him ever covid.
35:32
He's more toxic than flues. Yeah, he'll be a Monday firing casualty,
35:37
and I thought thirty three thirteen because I'm under three things respect well, whatever,
35:44
whatever, But the main thing is is this. You know, for
35:47
fields to be effective, he does have to use his legs and he hasn't
35:50
done it and had much talent. You can do what you want in defense
35:52
ave the end of the ball, but you still have to outscore your opponents,
35:55
and the Bears have yet to do that very well. All right,
35:58
I want to go over a couple of stance here that are interesting that came
36:01
across my desk. First of all, what about the downfall of the Edmonton
36:06
Oilers. Former Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland sees his team at four
36:10
nine to one for nine points. I think they at the bottom of the
36:15
Western Conference. So go figure, Kenny, you got a lot of work
36:19
to do, and they even handed you at Connor McDavid and you still haven't
36:22
been able to take the Edmonton Oilers deep. Well. One of our main
36:24
stories today was jerrymnd Green getting suspended five games as he had a choke hold
36:30
around Rudy Gobert. George and I know that Joe Dumarz, who's the executive
36:36
vice president of the NBA slapped him with a five game suspension. So Jacob
36:39
five game suspension do you think that was fair too? Was it fair?
36:44
Not enough? Or too much? Think about it. You got to wonder
36:46
who he knows over there, because I mean John Morant, I mean John
36:52
Moran. He basically held a and I'm not four with John Moran. I
36:55
was just saying this. He held a gun up right into the frontident and
37:00
gotten however many games off, you know, in front of the Instagram and
37:04
he got how many games off? This is a legit jokeal that he wasn't
37:07
letting go of that derry mind wasn't letting go off. And this is not
37:09
the first time he stomps on chests, stopping on chests, and he get
37:14
can people to nuts. I mean, he knocks somebody out, knocks Jordan
37:16
Poole out, which personally Jordan Poole deserved it, But that's not here nor
37:21
there. The thing is, he's got to know somebody there, and he's
37:24
got to have some dirt on him, just like the politicians by itself,
37:28
he's got to know something to get these to be able to keep getting off
37:30
like this. He has to, especially the way he talks on his podcast.
37:36
He has to be knowing things to be able to get off, and
37:37
he has to be knowing the right people. So no, it's not right.
37:42
This should be probably ten to fifteen games, but it is what it
37:45
is. Okay, Joe, how many games listen there? If you're going
37:51
to put somebody in a chokehold and not let go, it's a game of
37:54
basketball. You should be thrown of the league. You know, I don't
37:59
know you guys. I mean Scott George from Detroit Malice of the Palace,
38:05
you remember that. I mean, there's there's no reason to fight. It's
38:12
basketball. I get you get heated, you push, you know, you
38:15
bag. Maybe every once every ten years someone throws a punch. I can
38:22
understand. But a chokehold, seriously, I mean, come on, there's
38:29
no there's no reason for that, you know, And this isn't his first
38:32
time that he's done something like this. You know, he's that's just a
38:37
punk move. He should know better. He's not a twenty year old kid
38:42
that you can say he's not mature. He's an old man. Get him
38:45
the heck out of that. Enough of that, he's old and not mature.
38:51
So how many games Joe. Should he be suspended, I say,
38:54
throw him out of the league, but legitimately twenty Okay, all right,
39:00
George, what do you think? Well, you know, like you alluded
39:04
to, I mean, he has been causing trouble and in quite a number
39:07
of ways over the past several years. And I really feel bad because Tom
39:12
is Ooh, you know what a great coach Tom is. And Tom just
39:15
loved him as a player when he was at Michigan State. But that being
39:17
said, that was a long time ago, has no bearing on what he
39:22
did that was disgraceful, that choke hold. I would give him. I
39:25
would have given him a minimum of ten games on this one. Scott,
39:30
Yeah, and I go fifteen. I really would. I think fifteen.
39:32
And the reason why I say fifteen is because not that he'd win any awards
39:37
anyways. But isn't that the number for load management you have to play at
39:40
least sixty five games? Yeah, the awards fifteen, not that he'd win
39:44
any The only thing he could win would be a rebounding award of course technicals
39:49
or he wins that one hand down at any house. So at fifteen,
39:52
at least twenty I would have a problem at fifteen easily, So I think
39:55
he got off easy. What I want to do now and I think it
39:59
worked out last time. We're gonna go over some top of headlines that occurred
40:02
over the week, and one of them actually is in Anaheim. So I'm
40:07
gonna go around the horn with this, Okay, but I'm not Tony Rally
40:10
and never want to be. Okay. So Ron Washington is a new manager
40:15
or the La Angels. Jacob, you like the idea he was in your
40:19
neck of the woods, absolutely, absolutely. It's like he was great in
40:22
Texas, tremendous teacher of the game, and he you would see him in
40:30
every pregame and I was in there. If you have quite a few year
40:31
old games, you see him in the pre game and he's out there.
40:35
I mean just you know, he just basically play out hitting a little ball
40:37
to everybody. He I mean, he's give him teacher. He's a teacher.
40:42
And the biggest thing that the Angels need before they can get themselves coming
40:46
back. Gotta remember they don't have a good ownership anyway. Their ownership is
40:50
terrible. So when you have a terrible ownership, that's not going to help
40:53
you. The first step is going back to the basics, like hypothetic it's
41:00
never gonna happen, but hypotheically a dusty Baker with another great one for that.
41:04
But Ron Washington is theer that step. When your ownership is terrible,
41:09
when you don't ever have yourself a chance, and you're gonna lose your big
41:13
marketable star, you go back to the basics. Ron Washington's perfect for it.
41:21
JB. Listen, He's one of the better managers around right now.
41:30
Everybody loves him, knows the game, great teacher. You know. Teams
41:36
are lucky to get guys like that. He's a winner. You want to
41:39
have a guy like that in your clubhouse. So good move. Glad to
41:43
see he led it somewhere and I wish for the best of luck. Seventy
41:46
one year old and he looks like he's in fantastic shape for sure, so
41:51
Jet Yeah, I'll tell you I looked at recent patuers and running Washington steal
41:54
bases on his own way. This guy looks let alone all the youngsters that
41:59
he's going to have do it for him, Okay, George, Yeah.
42:02
This has been a tried method for a lot of teams in the past to
42:07
bring somebody older on board mature manager. You know, he had a hell
42:13
of a ball club down there in Arlington. They had a lot of battles
42:16
with the Tigers. I know when the Tigers were also good during that timeframe.
42:21
But yeah, everything I know and hear about Ron Washington, he is
42:25
just a great guy and a wonderful man. I don't know why he hasn't
42:30
managed the last couple of years, though he's been coaching but not managing.
42:35
But that's okay. I mean, you know, and you know you're not
42:37
taking the great gamble on him like the White Sox did on LARUSA man,
42:43
that one really bit them in the face. But no, I think the
42:46
Angels need somebody like this. You need a guy that's fundamental. But he's
42:51
also a good guy to work with and work for on the playing field.
42:57
I've always admired Ron Washington. I think he'll do a nice job there.
43:00
Yeah, he actually took Texas to two World Series, but they came up
43:04
short, and I think the reason why he left Texas he had some personal
43:07
issues. But I'm glad that he's back in the game. And as we've
43:09
seen recently, with the recent trend of managers being experienced, we talk about
43:14
Bruce Bochi what sixty eight? Of course, you know Dusty Baker was in
43:17
his seventies. They wanted title. Ron Washington will be the latest more baseball
43:22
news because the awards are starting to come out. Blake Snell earns US not
43:25
National League. So Young becomes a seventh plip pitcher to win it in both
43:30
leagues, and guess what. The guy is going to become a free agent.
43:31
He can go anywhere he wants. Jacob so talks about Blake Snell.
43:39
You know how hard it is to do that in both leagues? Completely different.
43:45
It's not as much now because there isn't the there is the universal d
43:50
ah, so it's not as bad now, but you still got different type
43:52
of hitters, different type of it's different type of but for one thing that
43:57
so a lot of the ballparks are different, different type of srategy is different
44:00
than everything. So when you do that there, it's amazing. As far
44:04
as where he would go if you've got a double, Cy Young, Hey,
44:09
hello to the Cubs, say I'm maybe as a guest were confidential?
44:15
Okay, fair, all right, Joe, where is Blank Snow going?
44:22
You're muted? You want to be Charlie Chapman, be muted. If you
44:25
don't want to be Charlie Chapman, remain unmuted. And I'm not using him
44:29
as an ashtag. Muted sometimes good, you know, especially what I'm gonna
44:35
mention. You know, the Mets have a ton of money and they like
44:37
to spend it everybody, So they're going to obviously be one of the front
44:40
runners across the river. The a Keys. If they're gonna spend money this
44:45
year, they always deed pitch it. The Dodgers are always in content.
44:50
But I don't know. I honestly don't know where he's gonna end up,
44:52
but I would look to those three based on the quality as are okay,
44:59
George, Well, yeah, I don't know either. First of all,
45:02
congratulations Blake. That is a tremendous achievement. You're being cy Young Award winner
45:07
in both leagues. Good, good guy. He's obviously not going to stay
45:14
in San Diego, I don't believe, and I would have to think that
45:20
if it's not the Mets, I'm thinking maybe even the Dodgers possibly. I
45:24
don't know. I think he'll probably want to stay in the National League.
45:28
But yeah, it's just he's a good guy, good pitcher. He's got
45:31
some great credentials. I know he's up there and walks. He walks a
45:36
lot of guys. But other than that, he has had a tremendous season,
45:39
and I think it'd be one of the big money market teams again that
45:43
he's going to be looking for. I can actually see him going to the
45:46
Dodgers or the Braves. So I could see him going Dodgers will from when
45:52
I hear Andrew Freeman is willing to break the bank this year. The Dodgers
45:54
are sick and tired of beings every year when they win one hundred games and
45:59
they get left have to anyway. So if you have Rick Curdie on here,
46:02
he'll tell you he's the biggest Dodger hater on the planet. Mark Mansini's
46:07
worst. He loves the Padres. But then again, you know Mark is
46:09
all over the planet, so it doesn't make any difference anyways, because he
46:13
has his general biases. He's the biggest Dodger hater I've ever seen. So
46:16
I would adventure Atlanta and the Dodgers. All right, let's since we're talking
46:21
about the Yaks, Joe cold Oh, we have Karen Cole as he saw
46:27
Young Award winner. It's his first one, Jacob some thoughts about Cole.
46:31
Oh, JB's gonna change his mind about Garrett. I can already tell he's
46:36
gonna see I see his point, though, I see JB's point. It's
46:45
like regular season. He's a monster. This is obviously a monster deal.
46:51
Again, you know what I'm saying to where he's going here, got to
46:54
show in the playoffs you do you gotta go to I mean, gets the
47:00
World Series, lead it to beat and you got to say it a lot
47:02
of times about Clayton Kershaw. Also, you have to say, because this
47:07
is the thing we brought up a joke of confidential earlier. You know a
47:09
JB. But this is the big deal. My favorite dumb pitcher, Kyle
47:15
Hendrix, pitched a hell of a game seven before he went to the bullpen.
47:21
He came through in a snap. Hey, Ralph, he came through
47:24
in a snap. We haven't seen a Garrett Cole or the Clayton kershawther and
47:29
these guys do that in a seven or do all that. That's what's gonna
47:32
change somebody like JB's mind. Never go ahead, Joe. He won an
47:39
Individual Award because that's what he's all about. Back when he was with Houston,
47:45
a team which I despised, after they lost a clinching game, he
47:51
went into the clubhouse, took off his team's hat and put on a hat
47:54
with no affiliation. Well, he was still clearing out his lock or going
48:00
home after the loss. Now, I get your upset after you lose.
48:06
Nobody's ever happy to lose in the playoffs. It's got to suck. You're
48:09
still a part of that team. You haven't even left the stadium yet.
48:15
Have a little loyalty to your team. Guess why you won an individual award.
48:19
You're a piece of garbage. Keep your forty million. The Yankees will
48:22
never win with you. Congratulations, you fool the voters, which is still
48:29
a nobody to how you really feel he did? All right? George,
48:36
top that one. I don't know. I don't know how I can follow
48:38
that up. Thirty three years old. We want is first cy young.
48:43
But the Yankees didn't win anything. They didn't go anywhere, so that really,
48:49
that really does not bode well for him. And you know, I'm
48:52
not gonna argue with that. Joe. You know, his individual award,
48:54
and he's all giddy about winning that, and I'm sure he's gonna get a
48:58
nice fat check too his contract for winning the cy Young But it's done nothing,
49:05
unfortunately, to bringing the Yankees back up to the to the World Series
49:08
level that they were so used to for so many years. He's a good
49:14
pitcher, but yeah, he's not much of a team player. I agree.
49:17
Well, the only thing I'll say about Cole He's got the individual hardware.
49:20
Time to get the team hardware. That's all I can say. All
49:22
right, there's a report actually from MLB's John Morosi that the LA Dodgers are
49:29
among teams that showing the most interesting free agent right hander Yo Shinabu your month,
49:37
Yamamoto, Well, obviously you can tell it's a Japanese name, so
49:40
I told you. The twenty five year old is a three time reigning so
49:45
Lamara Award winner. Am I doing with my pronunciation? I better be doing
49:50
well or I'll be blasting myself in my next book for bad pronunciation. But
49:54
which As a Japan's top pitcher, Yamamoto was excellent twenty twenty three, ranking
50:00
up seventeen wins in a minuscool one point one six eurn run average one hundred
50:05
and seventy six strikeouts over one hundred and seventy one innings. Those numbers are
50:08
unreal, all right? How real are they? Take up? I can
50:12
tell after you had your little uh justin Field's red Apple moment, So give
50:16
me your uh. I'm not laughing at this. One one one point one
50:20
what one point one six? Good god? I mean, any league,
50:27
that's ridiculous. But you want to know what that means, don't you.
50:32
It means he's a placement pitcher. He might throw, he might, as
50:37
I said, he might have power pitches, but he can place because one
50:42
point one six doesn't. Here's the thing. You're not striking every single person
50:46
out. You can also get him out of every single way. That I
50:51
mean. That is literally another level of Greg Max when you're hitting that level.
50:57
And and I will tell you this right now, I would love for
51:00
him to follow the Otani to wherever he wants to go, and those two
51:05
can be a teammate because if it's the Cubs, oh dear god, Okay,
51:12
Joe, you know that's unbelievable stats. You know, wherever he heads
51:19
up, someone will pay the buddy. They always do. There's no lack
51:23
of buddy in Baseball, although they go through purious when they try not to
51:30
spend money. Someone will always spend the money if you put up numbers.
51:32
So hopefully he goes somewhere where he wants to go and he does what he
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did previously, because that'll be something to say. Sure, all right,
51:43
George, Yeah, I mean, you know that's that's a fantastic record,
51:46
no question about it. Those numbers are astronomical. You know, I wish
51:52
some of these teams local and here Tigers aren't going to spend the money.
51:58
I don't think the White Sox been soda in that division. I again,
52:02
these teams that have the money, the big strong owners that want to spend
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like crazy San Diego and Los Angeles and New York, both New York teams,
52:14
Boston of course, over the years, Philadelphia. I'm afraid that a
52:19
lot of these talented young guys like you are gonna head to one of those
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teams. I'm sorry, I can't narrow it down for you any further than
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that, but it's gonna take the deep pockets of some some very very rich
52:30
owners. Georgia, go ahead, take them, Yeah, George, let
52:36
me say this, you talk about Detroit. If you this is never going
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to happen. I'm just saying this as someone who who's doing the hypothetical GM
52:45
thing for a second. If you get a team like Detroit's kind of been
52:49
a stuck, I'm gonna say Colorado also kind of been a stuck. I'm
52:53
probably gonna try to go after the Japanese pitcher like that because they come from
52:59
a culture of patients. Japanese people are a culture of patients to be able
53:06
to get and they're gonna want their money. You got to pay them.
53:08
But they are a lot more likely to that you pay them and more likely
53:13
to wait and build around that a lot of American players are. So if
53:19
I was a hypothetical GM, now I was trying to build something, I
53:22
try to find a Japanese picture like that and you know, try to make
53:27
them happy and somebody that you got to build. You got to build somebody
53:30
that. But I think they would have more patients than a lot of Americans.
53:34
All Right. The only thing I'll add, the only thing I'll add
53:36
to this is I don't think he's going to Boston. So if I had
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to venture a place where I think he could go, and I don't think
53:40
there's any doubt that he could go. I think he ended up going to
53:44
the Cubs. They'll spend the money now that he got Craig counsel. I
53:47
also believe that you had the Dodgers and the Astros and will leave it at
53:52
that. We'll see how it plays out. But not Boston. I'm sure
53:54
that makes you feel pretty good, and I'm not going to win any Boston
53:58
fans. There one other thing I just want to mention before we close out
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the show. MLV owners are set to vote Thursday on the A's proposed relocation
54:05
to Las Vegas proposed. Now it's a done deal, Oakland, say goodbye
54:10
to the A's and the Raiders and the A's are neighbors again in Sin City.
54:15
All right, But that said, okay, Jacob, want to let
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everybody know how they can get a hold of you all everything, I mean
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