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Nunu Ishaka, University of British Columbia · The Red Banner Race Report

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Red Banner Race Report Podcast, your home for cross-country and track and field news in the NAIA.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Maren, and today we will be talking about elite jumping performance in the pursuit of some national hardware.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Our episode will take us out west to the University of British Columbia, where the Thunderbirds have a long history of track and field success.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: But our guest today is already rewriting that history just months into her collegiate career.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Joining us is Nunu Ichaka, currently the number one ranked triple jumper in the NAIA.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: She's a freshman sensation who recently shattered a school record with a massive 12.56 meter flight that's 41 feet three inches, and we'll chat about her techniques behind her jumps and the mindset it takes to be a national leader while also getting to know her both as an athlete and a person.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, Nunu, to the Red Banner Race Report Podcast.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Happy to be here.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's start out you telling us about yourself.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, where did you grow up?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: How did you get involved in track and field, specifically jumping?
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, um, I'm Canadian, so I'm from Calgary, but I also lived in the Middle East for a little bit of time.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_02: But like always through school and everything, I've been involved in sports.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like sports was like the one constant in my life growing up.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I did everything from like floor hockey, netball, basketball, soccer, I was doing all of it.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: And really the thing that I liked most about doing sports was the running aspect.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like I loved sprinting down the court, chasing after a ball, and it was just it was just the sprinting part that I absolutely loved.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: So when my school was trying to put together like a little team, we had a multi-sport uh competition and track and field was going to be part of it.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: They're putting together a team and they had to teach us triple jump.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: So they taught us triple jump and I ended up really liking it and also being quite good at it.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: And that's how I decided I learned about triple jump.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: That was in grade five, and it was just standing triple jump.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: And from there, I just continued to do it.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, at that point, my first ever medal was actually in triple jump too.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: So that was um that was just basically my origin story.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I just like throughout high school, I just continued doing sports, middle school, and then in grade 10 is when I guess I just started focusing more on track.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um came into high school just wanting to do my best.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when track season started, I ended up like doing really, really well.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was able to place third at provincials, and that was like definitely like an indication that like hmm, maybe I should like put more effort to this, maybe join a club and do it outside of school.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I joined a club and I guess I am here now.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: Started to train through it all, proper training every week, um, then indoor season, got to outdoor, went through all of that and got me to where I am right now.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and where you are right now is currently ranked number one in the NAIA for the triple jump as a freshman.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Did you come yeah, did you come into the season expecting to be, quote, the woman to beat, or has this kind of caught you by surprise too?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is definitely, definitely surprising.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, definitely as a first year, it's like there's so many people that have like years and years and years on experience than I do.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: So I was definitely like not expecting anything much.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: However, going into like the season, I was still expecting to do pretty well.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like my high school personal best was um 12, 15.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: So like I was definitely aiming high.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: However, like with fall training, that went really well, but I got injured early in well, late uh January, and I haven't had as much training and practice as I would have liked.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was off doing like minimal training stuff for two months.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: It was only really in the start of March that I we started like fully jumping.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: So just going into like going coming back from injury, I wasn't expecting a lot from myself.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I was just like happy to compete.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I had my first meet, and I was like an 11, 61.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: It was quite far behind from my personal best, but I didn't really mind because I was just coming back from injury and considering everything, I mean jumping for two, three weeks before was like I was happy with that.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then definitely this meet in Vegas was a huge surprise.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: I was not expecting that.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: The weather was obviously like really good compared to in Canada where it's um pretty cold and rainy all the time in Vancouver.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um so this heat definitely was good, but yeah, that that jump was definitely a surprise.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: The whole competition was you set the program record for your school, correct?
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: With that jump.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: So when you landed that, did you feel like okay, I've I've got a record-breaking jump.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: I can tell when I land, this is what's happening, or did you get surprised when you you know you saw the the measurement?
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it was my second jump.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: My first jump was also a personal best and also school record at that point.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: And that was like the first indication of like, okay, this is going really, really, really well.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I got to like my second attempt, my second jump jumped in.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I could tell that like everything felt really good.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: And my landing and everything just came together really nicely.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_02: I jumped out of the pit and I was like just waiting to hear the distance because I I knew it was big.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when I heard it, I was like so happy.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was I was on top of the world.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's exciting.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you've already secured your automatic qualification, obviously, for the NAI national championships.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, how did checking that box and the school record box kind of change your trajectory or your training focus for the rest of the season?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: Did that alter the way you were approaching some of the things you were doing?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a hundred percent.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, it takes a lot of pressure off.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, like my mental state is no longer, oh, I need to hit this certain mark.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: I need to do like half a certain performance, or like, I don't know, my season ends early.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have that anymore.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: So it's definitely like a very nice uh position to be in.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: And now it's just like fixing up the little things and also having like a proper few weeks of training.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't compete for another like two weeks.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm able to have a proper training block that I haven't really been able to have since coming back from injury.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: So like now it's just focusing on the things that we saw in competition and just building up strength that um I lost.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: So, and just heading it to National Zen conference.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you mentioned your injury, and I want to touch on that a little bit because the triple jump is very technical, it's very high impact.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, people don't realize, you know, you take on several times your body weight and force with every jump and you're doing one leg at a time.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Quite honestly, it really fascinates me because it doesn't look like it should be humanly possible to jump that way, but obviously people do.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: So, what special things do you have to give attention to as far as recovery or body maintenance because you're you know putting a lot of impact on your joints?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, I think the the biggest thing is just listening to your body.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like once I feel something is off, I gotta be like, I gotta tell my coach, and then she'll like tell me what to do.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: And just making sure I like meet with my physio at school and getting athletic therapy massages, doing a proper warm-up, all those little things all build up.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: And they like if you miss doing like a proper warm-up, high risk of injury.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't do your physio, you're not gonna get better if you're already injured.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: So just like focusing and making sure you do the little things properly, because it's always the little things that get you.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: So, as a a runner myself in college, I have zero knowledge of what a triple jumper would be doing in practice besides jumping.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: So, what are some other things that your weekly training might entail?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: What are some things you're doing, you know, either out in the field or in the gym?
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: What does that look like in a week for you?
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, training always, most of the days of practice are actually sprint days.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's always a lot of running every single day, honestly, and jumping.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think we only have we only have two jump days.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: So most of the time we're not even triple jumping at that point.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: We're doing uh specific drills, either working on um the hop, the individual phases, the hop phase, step phase, or even jump phase, landing, takeoff, all of those things.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: And quite rarely do we ever like do like a full approach.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I've only ever do like half approaches, eight steps, six steps, and never a full thing.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: And then other than uh sprinting and jumping, we do do a lot of um weights, so um and bios.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: So either like box jumps and um hurdle jumps.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: We also in in the weight room, it's usually like the power cleans and snatches and powerful exercises that we do quickly is a focus.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: What do you do for your warm-up?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: My warm-up, I think, is really like chill.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: I am I don't uh do anything crazy.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like the general lap around the track, get your heart rate up, then dynamic stretches.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um usually do some like uh hip stretches, lunges, um arm swings, stretching out my hamstrings, all those good things.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: And if I feel anything that needs to be stretched more, I'll stretch it.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Then I love doing leg swings like on a fence or something.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: Those really help to open up my hips and stretching up my calves so they are not tight.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then after the dynamic stretches, I usually do um more drills.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it'd be like a marches, a run, ankling, and other sprint drills that I only know the the action and not the name.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that makes sense.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: You'd want to have power and speed to to get going.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, yeah, once again, as a runner, I never had to deal with the aftermath of either long jumping or triple jumping.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So on a scale of one to ten, how much do you hate finding sand in in your shoes or your hair or wherever it may end up?
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'd say I'd say a six.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'd say like I'm okay.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't get like extra, extra mad because I already like, I mean, it's occupational hazard at this point.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: But what really, really annoys me is when I don't like dust the sand out of my socks.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: I wash and do all my laundry.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I have I put on a clean pair of socks I think that are clean and then they feel sand in it.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: That it's so annoying.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: I bet.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I've only had that experience from you know the beach, so I can't imagine every day or every other day or however often it is that you're you're having to take care of that.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that would not be my fave either.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if we're looking ahead to the NAI national championships in May, I'm sure that an individual title is a goal on your mind.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Are you also looking at a specific distance that you would love to hit as far as a mark?
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I definitely do want the title.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: That would be great, but I'm also focused on like how far I jump.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's definitely more important to me.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I like obviously 13 is like the big goal here.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because it is U20 world standards.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um but if I get there, I'm super happy.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm I'm already pleased with how the season's going.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: But I do, I am looking for more for sure.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: You were not there last year, but your team did win the meet.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um they were they were the team champions.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously your performance is gonna add some valuable points in there.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so spoiler alert, is the school, is British Columbia looking towards another team championship?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're we're looking pretty good right now.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think we are.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: So if you were not a triple jumper, what other track event would you want to try?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: I I was gonna guess long jump, but that seems like an obvious answer.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, funnily, no.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Long jump, I don't know why I find it a little bit not a little bit, a lot more difficult than triple jump and just not as fun, not as dynamic.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um the one thing I would do, I am I would say I'm a more strength jumper, so I would like to do like throws, maybe a little bit of hammer, a little bit of shot, put um because I think that's like it really build on my strength.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um and my sister also does shots, so I want to see like, hey, I want to be her, maybe.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it is interesting to note a lot of coaches, throw coaches say throwing technique does come a lot from the strength in your legs.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And since you have, I'm assuming, very strong legs, that could be, you know, maybe a secret weapon, an unknown advantage.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: It would be interesting to see.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: What is your go-to snack for a competition day?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: What do you like to munch on?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love Sour Patch.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Really Sour Patch Kids, it's like perfect quick energy.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's not, it's definitely not a meal.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: My my go-to meal would be like a Tim Hortons loaded bowl.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: But as per snacks, especially while you're waiting in between jumps, it's hot.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: You can get tired, you're tired from already your previous jumps.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Sour patch kids honestly gives you that quick burst of energy.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Applesauce is also really good if like I need something a little bit more healthy, less sugar.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: But those are definitely my go-to.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I am curious to know how long does it usually take you from the first jump of a competition until you wrap up.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, like how long is that time period for you to complete all of your jumps?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: It it's a wide range.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: It depends on the size of the field a lot.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um it usually is like an hour, an hour and a half.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's once that it took two hours because they combined like so many different age groups, there ended up being like almost 20, 30 people.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: And if there's like it's a really short, a small meet where there's like less than eight people, it'll be like 30, 45 minutes, you can you can be finished.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I have noticed that some jumpers like to kind of get the the crowd hyped up.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they'll clap and they'll look at the the bleachers or the stands, and that helps them.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Do you like to do that or do you is that not your thing?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I am a hundred percent a clapper.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: I love clapping.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: It is like I feel like an instant energy boost, and like whenever you clap, you're gonna do better.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't think I like doing it like my first few jumps because I mean I need to lock in and make sure I get mark in, and then I have a little bit more freedom to do whatever.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if you've just put your your body through some jumping at a competition and you're feeling tired and you're ready to either celebrate a great jump or just go somewhere you like to munch, what is your your favorite meal afterwards?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Meal?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly don't think I have a favorite meal.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm fine with eating anything after a meat as long as I get a sweet treat.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like I agree with that.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Big sweet sweet tooth.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Ice cream, bubble tea, anything, I'm down.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Those are all good choices I would also enjoy.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, do you have a favorite workout or meat day music?
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is there a jam that you put on and it kind of gets you in the right headspace, or it's like your song before a competition?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I just recently started practicing and doing my warmups with music.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: And what I've been listening to is being like Alex Jean, uh Right Over Wrong.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a Christian hip-hop song.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I also really do like Ray's new album, like um Lifeboat, I found was like a really good, like positive song to have before me.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Got it.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: And as a uh also a North American or a uh same continent resident, we are not in the same country, but we do share, you know, a border.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I have to ask, what is your favorite thing about being Canadian?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I would say the outdoors.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I would say that it is super, super pretty here.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like especially in Vancouver.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm originally from Calgary.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: That place is prairie, it's really flat, but over here in Vancouver, it is beautiful.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like this, it's currently spring, so everything's in bloom.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Walk outside, the flowers are everywhere, and it's so pretty.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then you can see the mountains at the side, and it's just it's just amazing.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: It really is amazing.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, my senior year of college was 2001, so I'm dating myself here.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: You all can do the math on that.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: But um, that year, NAI and Nationals were in Vancouver, so that is where I ran.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, all of my pictures of my meet, you see the mountains around the track, and it was amazing.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's very beautiful.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, how did you end up getting from Calgary to the University of British Columbia?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: What made that decision for you?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: I will say my is very unorthodox.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: I did reach out to the coach, um, and I was able to like get a spot here, but the main driving uh factor in me going to UBC was definitely like um academics.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm studying engineering right now, and UBC is like a great, great, great um engineering uh university.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: And also I got a really big um academic scholarship, so that was definitely a really big driving factor.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that would be for sure.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: How long does it take you to get home?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's like it's an hour flight.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's an hour flight.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's an hour driving.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Driving is like 10 hours if you're like just going straight, straight to Calgary.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's a little different than an hour flight.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not quite the same.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, have you ever visited any of the Olympic venues that are left behind from the Winter Olympics that were held there?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, no.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, I was curious.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: I might do that now because you mentioned it.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I always thought it would be kind of cool to visit some of the former Olympic venues.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know some of them are are no longer standing in certain cities.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: They've been demolished or, you know, whatever the case may be, but kind of a cool history there.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what is next for you as far as competition?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: What's next on your schedule and where are you headed to compete next?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: My next meet is in two weeks.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's in Bellingham.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's the uh Ralph Frenage Invitational.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's what it's called.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's just a one-day meet on Saturday.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to that, definitely.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, just another chance to compete before a conference in I think May 9th to 10th around that time frame.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I was just thinking it's not too far away for conference and then nationals.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a month and a half.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's coming up soon.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, things are gonna start coming together, and we'll keep an eye on your jumps because I don't think that where you're at is where you're gonna finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think there's some big jumps to come.
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