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Ian Furness 10/14 H1: We're here! Better late than never with John Lund and we're preparing for something unprecedented! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frost Brewed Coors Light
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  Speaker 2: Cold as the Rockies. Forget the day before the day before.
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  Speaker 2: We're already at the day before. Seahawks kick off week
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  Speaker 2: six of the NFL Thursday night game in Denver. It's
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  Speaker 2: the day before. Charbonnet, Williams, Thomas, as in Drake, all
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  Speaker 2: limited yesterday. They're open for Charbonnet back in week seven.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell will be down there covering it for us.
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  Speaker 2: Here on 93.3 KJR FM. Kraken continue their hot road trip.
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  Speaker 2: Three for three so far. It took a shootout. It
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  Speaker 2: took a little bit of more drama than it should have.
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  Speaker 3: Lots of stress.
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  Speaker 2: 2-0 lead after two, but they win 3-2 in the shootout.
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  Speaker 2: They are now 5-2 on the season. Gets a little
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  Speaker 2: bit tougher tomorrow. Tampa Bay, good at hockey. Like, really good.
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  Speaker 2: Although they just lost 4-1 to the Rangers, who are
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  Speaker 2: not good at hockey. So who knows? Weird world. 4 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Drop of the puck, 3.30 pregame here on KJR. Nothing
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  Speaker 2: else happening tomorrow. Don't worry. Watch and listen to Kraken.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know the MLB playoffs are continuing?
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  Speaker 3: I've heard. I've heard.
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  Speaker 2: Game three of the NLCS. They're in L.A. Shohei Otani,
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  Speaker 2: he's not good at baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently not anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Brewers hold a 2-0 series lead over Otani and the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: He will be in the lineup tonight. He's hitting 150
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  Speaker 2: with three hits and a 411 OPS. Yeah, it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: You know who thinks that's bad? Dan Wilson's playoff resume.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that wasn't good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Dan, we love you. Just weren't good in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow's ALCS Game 3 has been moved up five hours
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  Speaker 2: to a 10 a.m. start time. That's our time, right?
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  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. our time? Yes, 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: Our time. Yeah, 1 p.m. Eastern.
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  Speaker 2: Bad weather in Cleveland. Weird. Bad weather in Cleveland in October.
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  Speaker 2: Who could have seen that coming? No one. A series-tied
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  Speaker 2: one-game-a-piece raise bounced back to get a win last night, 3-1.
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  Speaker 2: Mariners aren't the only team looking for a new manager
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  Speaker 2: in the ALS. The Astros have parted ways with Joe
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  Speaker 2: Espada after three seasons. Wait a second. Isn't he the
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  Speaker 2: guy I just was going to interview here in Seattle?
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he is. Philly's signed Don Mattingly to a two-year deal.
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  Speaker 2: He took over 28 games of the season and went
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  Speaker 2: 79-55 the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. No show yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: We got just kind of that weird week, weird week,
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  Speaker 2: strange week going on.
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  Speaker 3: It is weird. I have no idea what day of
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  Speaker 3: the week it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just when the Kraken play on the East Coast,
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  Speaker 2: things just kind of get thrown into a blender, so
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  Speaker 2: to speak. And so they had an early game yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: They got an early game tomorrow. So we had a
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  Speaker 2: three-hour show Monday, a normal 12 to 3. We will
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  Speaker 2: have a 12 to 3, three-hour show today. Yesterday, not
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  Speaker 2: on the air. Tomorrow, we're on the air for two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: 12 to 2. And then, just a programming reminder, no
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Funston tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? No Brandon Funston tomorrow. How many texts will we
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  Speaker 2: still get at noon tomorrow? Oh, a million. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone racing to be the first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no Funston tomorrow. We'll have Ross Tucker and
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  Speaker 2: Palo Zolo on tomorrow. Mm-hmm. So we get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of NFL football getting ready for Thursday night football game on.
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  Speaker 2: And then Friday, we're only on for an hour.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, we're going to talk to Corbin, and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just about the Seahawks game, basically.
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  Speaker 2: About the Seahawks game. Yeah, we'll do a segment with
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  Speaker 2: Corbin and be done. They say, thanks for coming. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that's how. And then next week, it gets back
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  Speaker 2: to normal, cracking her back home on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: So we're back at it. So just so everyone kind
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  Speaker 2: of knows where we're at. So it's kind of been
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  Speaker 2: a strange week. But because of that, we're shifting things around.
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  Speaker 2: Normally on Tuesdays, we have John Lund. Mm-hmm. And we
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  Speaker 2: have MK and Alex. I thought about just blowing off
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  Speaker 2: MK and Alex this week to Cougs. Then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: I've got way too many people sending texts and emails
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. Like, we need those guys because all hell's
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  Speaker 2: broken loose. It's kind of like you need the Husky Honks.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, you guys have a new quarterback to
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  Speaker 3: talk about.
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  Speaker 2: We do. And a lot of other bad things. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: got bad things going on in college football, unless you're
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  Speaker 2: the Beavs in the Northwest. Correct. Everyone sucks except for
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  Speaker 2: the Beavs. What a world we're living in right now. So...
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  Speaker 2: I said, we'll get those guys. They're going to join
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  Speaker 2: us at 2 o'clock today. Yeah. And talk about the
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  Speaker 2: just absolute dumpster fire that's going on in Pullman. You know,
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  Speaker 2: much like I'm sure the Honks talked about the dumpster
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  Speaker 2: fire that's going on on Montlake.
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  Speaker 3: I would hope they did.
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  Speaker 2: 1220, we're going to take, normally on Tuesdays at 2 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: we have our buddy John London. Well, we all know
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  Speaker 2: how that goes because he's, you know, the king of
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  Speaker 2: all things Bay Area media. The king, he's Mr.
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  Speaker 3: 49er.
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  Speaker 2: And since the Niners in San Fran handed it to
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks on Sunday, we got to take our medicine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Lunn's going to join us here in about 13
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  Speaker 2: minutes time.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be fun.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. That'll be brought to you by Chambers
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  Speaker 2: Bay Distillery. So we'll get him on coming up at 1220.
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  Speaker 2: Let him just, you know, talk all kinds of smack.
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  Speaker 2: I thought seriously about just... Moving on this week. But
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  Speaker 2: that's a bad look.
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  Speaker 4: No, because we're, I mean, especially with the 49ers, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to play him again. And we want to be
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  Speaker 4: able to talk trash to him when we win.
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  Speaker 2: And if we would have, if we, the Seahawks would
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  Speaker 2: have won on Sunday. And then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: we get to Tuesday and Ashley says, Hey, Lon, you
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  Speaker 2: ready to go two o'clock? And he says, Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: can't do it today. Well, what about tomorrow? I'm not,
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  Speaker 2: I'm busy this week. How hard would we have gone
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  Speaker 2: in on him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We would have ripped him.
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  Speaker 2: Ripped him. Can't do it. Just could not, just have
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  Speaker 2: to take our medicine.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Simple as that. That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: I did see some 49ers fan, I think it was
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter, saying like, oh, the Seahawks have, or maybe
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  Speaker 4: it was even on our text line on Monday, the
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  Speaker 4: 49ers have the Seahawks regular season number. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 4: a weird thing to try to trash talk some. Ooh,
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  Speaker 4: not our regular season number. And don't we pretty much
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  Speaker 4: split every regular season?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about as even as it gets.
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  Speaker 3: But also if you want the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I know this. Seattle's won the last two times they've
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  Speaker 2: gone to Levi's Stadium. At least the last two.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you're just counting Levi's Stadium trips.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm counting. They won a pretty big one
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  Speaker 2: in February.
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  Speaker 3: Sure did.
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  Speaker 2: Could be wrong, but I think they won a pretty
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  Speaker 2: big one in February.
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  Speaker 3: Were the Niners there?
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  Speaker 2: They might have been there as fans. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We had to cover up the Niners' logos. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: They might have been there just hanging out and having
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  Speaker 2: a beer and chilling. They weren't playing. They did not
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  Speaker 2: play football that day.
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  Speaker 3: But congrats on that regular season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and then the last time the regular season
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks went down there, they also... If I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 2: my friend Drake Thomas had an interception on the great
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  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy at the goal line.
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  Speaker 3: You are not mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm just double-checking that. None of those things
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  Speaker 2: I can even bring up, though, with one, because they're
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  Speaker 2: not relevant to what happened on Sunday. No, we're not
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  Speaker 2: living in the past.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it was just a funny argument. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, what are we talking about here? How is
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  Speaker 4: this an argument?
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  Speaker 2: One of the reasons I was going to blow him off,
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  Speaker 2: I made the mistake of glancing at social media over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, and people were losing their mind, his listeners
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  Speaker 2: to him, about, you know, that idiot Seattle guy that
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  Speaker 2: came on his show last week and talked smack and
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  Speaker 2: made fun of Purdy and did all these things. And
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  Speaker 2: a couple of people thought it was somebody not named
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 3: No, just somebody that worked with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, those people got real mad at that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed that, though.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny.
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  Speaker 2: I did, too. You took a lot of beef, but
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. Me, I just kind of hid in the corner.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, I was doing a hockey game. What do
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  Speaker 2: I want to do? Don't give me a hard time.
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  Speaker 2: We had a hockey game that day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you can't trash talk your rivals, then
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  Speaker 4: what are we even doing with our lives?
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  Speaker 2: So he'll trash talk us coming up here in about
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  Speaker 2: 10 minutes' time. So we've got all that coming up today.
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel will join us at 1.20. Looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: that conversation with Stu. Really, the thing with college football
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  Speaker 2: has got a lot going on. First of all, great
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  Speaker 2: weekend coming up. Like a great weekend coming up. BYU,
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, a holy war is massive. But Indiana playing
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  Speaker 2: host to Ohio State. A couple other games. Friday night's game.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Stu a little bit about Purdue and Washington.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is that Washington and Oregon are
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  Speaker 2: both done. Yep. As far as anything in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the college football playoff. But bigger picture. It's a weird
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  Speaker 2: world we're living in right now. I was mentioning this
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  Speaker 2: to Greg before we did Crosstalk off the air. It's
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  Speaker 2: like everyone wants instant gratification now. And I say instant,
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  Speaker 2: like first year, but even in the third year, it takes,
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  Speaker 2: it used to be, you get, you get some leeway,
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  Speaker 2: build a program.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the case anymore at all. So yeah, it's, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit tough. Both Washington and Oregon sitting
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  Speaker 2: there with, you know, with a couple losses, Washington's got
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  Speaker 2: the three and, and Oregon is one is, is done.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're done.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Oregon's done.
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  Speaker 3: As far as college football playoff, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think. So, yeah, we'll talk to them
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  Speaker 2: about Purdue because Purdue is weird. They can run the ball.
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  Speaker 2: They can stop the run. And they're 2-1, my God,
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  Speaker 2: in the conference in Big Ten play. Now, they've got
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  Speaker 2: three total losses. They're not going to a playoff either.
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  Speaker 2: But odd in my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Super odd.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Softie brought it up the other day. We
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  Speaker 4: thought that was going to be like an easy game
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  Speaker 4: for Washington. And now having watched what they did to
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota and then we're going there, I mean– Now I'm like, oh, God,
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  Speaker 4: can we at least look?
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  Speaker 2: In the world of NIL, Ash? Yeah. Stuart Mandel and
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  Speaker 2: the guys at The Athletic, we talked about this a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks ago. They did that whole story on NIL spending.
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  Speaker 2: And that doesn't always translate to wins, but sometimes it does. Depends.
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  Speaker 2: It's not translating for wins necessarily for LSU, for example.
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  Speaker 2: They spent more money than God. And LSU is one
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  Speaker 2: and two in LSU. SEC play. But Purdue is at
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of the Big Ten in spending for college basketball.
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  Speaker 2: They are dead last. Yeah. Yet they are sitting in
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  Speaker 2: the top six or seven. I mean, they're one of,
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  Speaker 2: and there's one, two, three, four teams that are unbeaten
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  Speaker 2: in conference play. They're one of a handful that have
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  Speaker 2: one loss. Minnesota, who they just trounced, curb stomped, came
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  Speaker 2: in here and beat the Huskies in a Husky stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota is like, I think they're second to last or third. No,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it might be Rutgers and then Minnesota. So what
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  Speaker 2: does spending mean? I don't even know anymore. Washington, of course,
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  Speaker 2: and Jed brought this up. Jed had a long thing
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  Speaker 2: and kind of went viral on spending and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Just a strange world we're living in, college football. But
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a For Purdue, they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be jacked up and be excited. But then no matter
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  Speaker 2: what happens to them, they'll go, it doesn't matter. When
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  Speaker 2: does Matt Painter's team tip it off at Mackey Arena?
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  Speaker 2: When does basketball start? We've got a couple dudes coming
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  Speaker 2: in to fill in for Braden Smith this year. We
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  Speaker 2: should be in TKR. We should be pretty good. So
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  Speaker 2: when does basketball start? It's a bonus for them. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty massive game for Jed and the Huskies. Even if
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  Speaker 2: your college football playoff hopes are gone, it's a big game. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good college football, a lot of topics
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  Speaker 2: to get to as well with Stuart Mandel. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: do that today. Fact or fiction? Do you want to
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  Speaker 2: make the pick today?
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  Speaker 3: It's up to you. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Up to you.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do it if you want or you got it.
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  Speaker 3: We only have two picks this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let you do it. Okay. Because the pick
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  Speaker 2: I was going to have, Greg just took.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to take BYU plus the points. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You just got done.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, and the guy that always sends in the text
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  Speaker 2: about how I'm like anti-Mormon and anti-LDS and when I
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: make fun of them being a cult and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and whatever, they get upset. I didn't mean that out loud.
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  Speaker 2: When I do all those things, see, I was going
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  Speaker 2: to pick BYU in the points.
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  Speaker 3: See, so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Color me blue with the blue Cougars. I was going
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  Speaker 2: to pick them, and Bell stole that. So in the
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  Speaker 2: interest of fairness, I'll have one pick this week, and
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  Speaker 2: you'll have one pick this week. Okay, fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: I say the interest of fairness also because I suck
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you just don't want to have two losses this week.
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  Speaker 2: You're 100% right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. And I'm fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: I would chase, but I've already lost once this week.
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  Speaker 2: So you're going to need to pick. That's $ 235. Your
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  Speaker 2: chance to win $ 1, 000, just like that snap of the fingers.
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  Speaker 2: So tune in for that. All right. Let's take our medicine.
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  Speaker 2: Lund is standing by. He'll join us next.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of decades. They'll be talking NFC West,
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  Speaker 1: with bar seats, tables, and couches now attempting to keep
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers stocked to a minimum here's John Lund with Ian.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's better late than never he's here uh oh
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  Speaker 2: yeah he's here we weren't gonna we were not listen
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  Speaker 2: we're not ducking we're not hiding we're not you were decking.
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  Speaker 5: Me no hockey over me yesterday right you chose hockey
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  Speaker 5: over me.
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  Speaker 2: No the boss chose softy and feign to do a
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  Speaker 2: show over me yesterday is what oh.
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  Speaker 5: Is that what happened Yeah. What's his problem? That show stinks.
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  Speaker 5: It's just firing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. What was the name of your show in
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake? Wasn't it like the Shooting Gallery or something
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  Speaker 2: like that? I don't know. Shows. Remember that? You had
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  Speaker 2: a show. You couldn't have that nowadays. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was.
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  Speaker 5: I think I one time I think I could say
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  Speaker 5: this on the air one time just for a brief,
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  Speaker 5: short period of time. But it was in Salt Lake City,
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  Speaker 5: so it didn't fly very, very long. We had a
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  Speaker 5: morning show.
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  Speaker 2: We called it Morning Wood. And it just didn't. In
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. I got a lot of complaints. We
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  Speaker 2: had to change that one. Was that Locke's idea? No, no.
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  Speaker 2: He would never have that kind of an idea. But, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that one didn't fly. So, yeah. I've had so
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  Speaker 2: many shows. I can't even remember. I'm a vagabond. That
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: idiot Jeff Rickard or something like that. All right. John Lundy. Wow.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: We're just taking shots at everybody. No, they didn't have
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: me on yesterday. Because we had short shows with Kraken Hockey.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: And they said, oh, we can't have. We can't have
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Softie miss two days of shows this week. He's the guy.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: He's a franchise, man. That's what he is. It's what
• 14:28
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• 14:31
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• 14:34
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• 14:36
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• 14:38
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• 14:41
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• 14:56
  Speaker 2: that and say thank you, Kyle Shanahan. Thank you, Sam Darnold.
• 15:00
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• 15:06
  Speaker 5: They didn't teach him that in San Francisco. He must
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: be going rogue right now. He's just going rogue.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to him in a second. But
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: how jacked up are 49er fans after that win? Because
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: looking at the schedule, they may not lose until, well, ever,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: but maybe at the earliest December. Yeah, and it's weird.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Here's the one thing about the 49ers. I'll give Seahawks
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: fans a glimmer of hope. What happens, it's every year
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: with Kyle. Gets off to a great start, usually. Has
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: kind of mid-season swoon, and then he's got an amazing
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: December record. And they usually finish up, and again, a
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: lot of it depends on injuries, but there's some weird
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: games coming up. Like Washington on Monday isn't a big deal,
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: but then like a game at Atlanta for them. Last
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: time they played at Atlanta... Atlanta just ran it down
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: their throats. Marcus Mariota, uh, completely like 12, 13 straight
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: passes as a backup. Like they just, and they lost
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: and he, you always have a head scratcher in the
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: middle of the season for the four Niners and they
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: get back on schedule. But, uh, but yeah, to, to
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: your original point, look, everybody's feeling good despite all the injuries,
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: despite Greg Greenlaw being a bonehead and getting baited by
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Ernest Jones in that play. It's like, dude, you can't
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: do that. He's going to miss Monday's game. It's just,
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: you know, you guys saw this on Sunday, uh, Mike
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Evans has made all the difference in the world. And,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: you know, I thought he'd be a nice contributor. He's 33.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I thought he was a little bit washed.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: He's not.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: And Brock just has a ton of confidence in him.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: And he's changed their whole offense. And he changes their swagger.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: He walks into a building, and you saw what he
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: did with Diggs there. He's one of those guys. Seattle
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: has a bunch of those guys, a bunch of dogs.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: And you add them to Kittle and McCaffrey and all
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: these different guys. The weird thing about the 49ers is
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: they've got a bunch of old guys on offense. Most
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: of their touchdowns are scored by 30-plus-year-olds. And much of
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: their defense, I'm sure that Seahawks fans were like, who's Grayson.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Halton, the guy that made the play right before the half? Yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Who's Jalen Duggar? Who's, you know, they, Renardo Green, last
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: time you saw him, he stunk.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: They've just, whatever it is, whether it's Raheem Morris replacing Sala,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, it's a bunch of old
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: guys on offense and a bunch of young guys on defense.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: They didn't even have Nick Bosa. So they think they're
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: going to get better. They're probably going to make an
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: aggressive trade because look, the one thing that Kyle's saying,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: like the fans are jumping up and down, but the
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: one thing Kyle's saying is, whoa, man, You still got
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: one more against Seattle, still got one more against the Rams.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: They've got a tough finish to the season. So by
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: no means, as excited as they are, by no means
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: do the 49ers think they have the NFC West wrapped
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: up because that substation and weird things, and they could
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: have injuries like Debo's that are going to be out
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: for a little while. So it just seems to happen
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: to them every week to give you just a sliver
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: of hope.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. It's a sliver right now.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, thankfully, our friends, the Bills, despite their
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: best efforts to screw that game up, and they tried
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: to screw that game up Monday. My God. Like, giving
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Stafford time at the end of the game, like, at
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that point, just kick the field goal.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Right? Like, you know, and be done with it. Instead,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: they just said, you know, no, regulation, we're going to
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: score a touchdown and give Matt Stafford and a timeout.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: A minute and a half left. And then even at
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the end, when they went for the field goal, after
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: they had missed, I'm still trying to shake my head.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Take the clock down. A tie is better than a loss, man.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, what are the 49ers now? Are they three
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: games ahead of the Rams? Yeah, three games in the hook.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, they beat them, and that's a road game.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: That was the Rams- home game. So they're three and
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: a half over the Rams. They're two and a half
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: over Seattle. The only thing that's weird about the 49ers,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: you guys know this. So Brock in the regular season,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: of course, the divisional is totally different. He's five and oh,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: they've played well up in Seattle in the regular season,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: but there's seven and 10 combined in Kyle's time, Mike
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: McDonald and Sean McVay on the road, or excuse me,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: at home. against the Rams and the Seahawks. So everyone's
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: jumping up and down and excited. And we won those
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: two games on the road against the Rams and the Seahawks.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: They play well in LA. They play well in Seattle.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: They've actually struggled against the Seahawks and the Rams at home.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: So again, that's better news for the Seahawks and Rams.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: But the issue to me, and I'm sure you guys
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: have been talking about it, the biggest issue with the
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Seahawks is not the 49ers.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: The biggest issue with the Seahawks is the Seahawks, their offense.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And Darnold's continuing to turn it over and not having
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: a running game. And et cetera, et cetera.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Defensively, again, you know the numbers better than I do.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: They look the same to me. I mean, again, you
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: guys know this. The drives in the first half for
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: the 49ers were 18, 11, and zero yards, 29 yards,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: 21 points, and the four turnover. And to me, that
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: was the biggest thing coming into the game is Sam
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Darnold doesn't look right. The running game clearly doesn't look right.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: They've got a lot of time to fix it, but the,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: you know, anyone pointing towards the 49ers is the issue
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: right now, at least in Seattle. Because if you look
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: at the Rams schedule, the Rams are going to get
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the Rams next five or six games, they're going to win.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: So they're going to sit 8-3, something like that. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: the pressure is still on the 49ers, even though they're
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: that far back. And the Seahawks have more internal issues
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: to worry about than they do the 49ers.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just as John was saying, so this
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: is what's coming up for the 49ers. Commanders, Falcons, Raiders,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the disaster dumpster fire that is the Cowboys. Oh, I know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: The biggest mirage in the NFL called the Minnesota Vikings.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Then the Seahawks Thanksgiving weekend, right? I think that's like
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: then the Giants and the Rams after that. So, I mean,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that's what's coming up. That's what's coming up for the 49ers.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. Like, you guys are going to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: run the table. And then if I look and see
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: what's going on with the Rams. Here's the Rams schedule
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: coming up.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Cardinals. God. Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers. Oh, my God. Commanders, Cardinals again.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Packers give them a hard time. That's a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: primetime game.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe the Chiefs. Ah, man, Seattle.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: So that's what I mean is at this point, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Rams have used up their mulligans. And they're going to
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: go on a tear here and win a bunch of games.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I think the 49ers are going to do the same thing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So with the Seahawks, that Washington game looms really large.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Because if you're just one back, that Washington game looms
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: really large. But like I said, the 49ers will give
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: one back at some point. The other thing to note, too,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: in this race, and I don't think anybody in the
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: NFC is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: is a threat.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Watching the Bears lose 31-7, the Packers might be a
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: little bit... But there are so many Lions can't play
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: any defense. The Vikings don't have an offense. I got
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of respect for Brian Flores. He always gives
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: the Niners trouble. But offensively, they are really challenged, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Kyler Murray doesn't scare anybody. But I will guarantee you this.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: The 49ers feel like they're a Super Bowl contender, a legit.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: This is the one that they can win. They're going
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to be really aggressive at the trade deadline, like a
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Khalil Mack. I don't know if it's going to be
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: a receiver, because they have so many receiver and defensive
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: line injuries. But John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan... They've got
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: a bunch of money under the cap. They don't want
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: to give up picks, but they're probably going to. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: they're going to be aggressive, whether it's for a receiver,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: a defensive lineman. And the trade deadline is November 10th.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: They're not going to wait. And I know that Schneider's aggressive, too. Again,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I'm speaking on something that you're more of an expert
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: than I am. But doesn't Seattle have to go out
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: and get a running back?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the question because, like, we don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: know what Price's situation is, right? Like, you know, he's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: been a first-round pick on a running back that hasn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: been healthy at all. Like, he's been banged up through minicamp,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: banged up in training camp, comes in, you know, what,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: first or second carry, I think it was career. He fumbles,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: gets hurt, then he's out again. He fumbles again, now
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: he's out again. I mean, when he has played, he's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: looked great. The problem is, you know, he's not available
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and hasn't been. and then he fumbles, and then you
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: saw the fumble issues with Helani, but Helani shouldn't even
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: be in the game. He's not even a good third
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: down blocking back, at least what the numbers say. They
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: get Charbonnet back, but Charbonnet's not a lead guy. He's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a two. He should be to a good, to Jadarian Price,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet should be like a Brian Robinson Jr. is to Bijan.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's what he should be. Right now, we're not getting
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that at all here in Seattle. They got nothing. I mean,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: emmanuel wilson you know you might be faster than he
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: is so i don't know if they go for a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: running back i think honestly i think they need a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: receiver it's jsn or bust right now i mean it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: jsn or bust i mean like that's what they need
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: you know and then look at the rams what do
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the rams need probably nothing you know they need miles garrett.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Back that's it yeah they don't need anything yeah i
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: don't think they're gonna i mean maybe they'll make a
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: move depending on injuries and everything else but like you
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: said Once they get healthy, they're going to be scary.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Somebody on the Niner staff, one of the things that
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: they told me just reminded me of this. They weren't
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: afraid of the running game for the Seahawks, not because
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: of who was there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Who wasn't there.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: They just knew that the backs that they had just
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: weren't fast enough to run outside zone.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So if you go back and.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: You look, they were just looking for power, anything between
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: the tackles or actually between the guards and the A-gap
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and B-gap kind of stuff. they weren't even afraid of
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: an outside zone run because they knew that those guys
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: weren't fast enough to run it. So they've got to
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: get somebody who's a threat because the 49ers went into
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: that game going, okay, everything's going to be a gap,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: B cap type runs. They're not going to threaten us
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: on the outside. If they try to, they've got, No chance.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Our linebackers, you know, safeties, whatever, aggressive too fast. So
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: they took that totally away. And that's a problem for
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Seattle because now, and this is one of the reasons, again,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: you guys know this, that Darnold's struggling is because there's
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: no run game. And it's nothing against Sam. I'm not
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: taking a shot at him. He's not going to carry
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: your offense. No quarterback is. I mean, if you don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: have a running game, I don't care who it is.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: It's really hard. You know, it's really hard for the quarterback.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: And then guys can just tee off on you. And
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: that's been the issue with their offense.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, the CX, John Lund joining us, courtesy of Chambers
• 25:12
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• 25:15
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• 25:17
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• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely great craft cocktails, especially as we get closer to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the holiday season. Award-winning all the way around. Great stuff.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: John's going to get some here soon, and he'll give
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: us his opinion, his thoughts. I can't wait. I know.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make an old-fashioned with the giant ice
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: cube in it, and cheers to the 49ers winning.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did I mention they were 5-0? No. Cheers to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: George Helani. Cheers to George Helani. My God. George Helani.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: George Helani. Oh, my goodness. That was just brutal, man.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You know the worst thing? McDonald brings this up the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: other day. He's like, well, you know, we're about the
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: same turnover rate last year through five games as we
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: are this year. And so I looked it up, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: he's right. It's 9-8. That's the difference. It's 9-8 are
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the numbers of the last two years. The funny thing
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is last year, The turnovers were Darnold, JSN, and somebody else,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and a defensive player after a turnover that they got,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and then they dropped it, and then Holani. And now
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: this year, the turnovers are, in terms of fumbles, the fumbles,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: just talking fumbles, are Holani, Emmanuel Wilson. and Jadarian Price
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: have combined for all the fumbles. So not only are
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: you slow, you can't hold on to the football. That's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: just awful. So the 49ers trade deadline, is it a receiver?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Because the one thing I do think is a little
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: bit similar with the two teams, and actually all three teams,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: although it's weird because the Rams have Devontae, and they'll
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: throw to him in the red zone. But it's like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Puka gets 23 targets. JSN gets double-digit targets. Mike Evans,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: double-digit targets. I think all three teams could probably use
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: another receiver, although I say that I don't think it
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: matters because Stafford only looks to Puka, so they don't
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: probably need that. But I think Evans and JSN are
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: similar in the sense that both quarterbacks only look to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: those guys. Kittle does come into play, and it feels
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like I've got to give Kyle some credit here. We
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: joke about my fantasy team all the time. It's not that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I think Kyle's playing the Christian McCaffrey thing perfectly. He's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: just keeping him That guy's going to be fresher than
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: he's ever been for a second half of a season. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and they'll go to him more in the bigger games.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: They're just trying to, like you said, just kind of
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: keep him for the long haul. Kalen Black's a rookie
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: out of Indiana, and I don't know how much trust
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: he has in him.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: It's just been injuries.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: That's the problem is Debo just went down. Deshaun's dribbling
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: their second-round pick. They really went down before the season.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Ricky Pearsall went down. Demarcus Robinson's on the injured list
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: right now. It's two positions, their defensive line and their
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: wide receivers. I just have a sense Nick Bosa may
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: come back Monday against Washington. I just have a sense
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: that they believe that they're going to get reinforcements as
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: far as the receivers are concerned. But the D-line, as
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: great as they played, a bunch of young guys played
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: their best games in Seattle. Halton never had played like
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: that before, 93. They got a digazoo up from Dallas,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: which I don't know what Dallas was thinking. He's a
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: really good defensive tackle for like a third round pick.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows what Dallas is thinking right now. They're idiots.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: They're just straight idiots. But they need an edge.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Keyon White had really played his best game, 56, for
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: the 49ers against the Seahawks, too. Just a bunch of
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: guys stepped up. And so Monday on the show, it
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: was like, well, do they need to make a trade?
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: It's like, they're not going to play like that every week.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I think they were just really jacked up. I think
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: they tried to get Khalil Mack when he was a
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: member of the Raiders and Mark Davis wouldn't trade with
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: the Niners. He hates the 49ers. So they actually had
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: a better deal on the table than Chicago. So I
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: could see the 49ers going back to that. And if
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: you had Mack and Bosa as your edge guys, not
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: only would that be a good pass rushing duo, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: they're both really good against the run. And if there's
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: a struggle that the Niners have, and I think the
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Seahawks will get their run game in order. If there's
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: a struggle that the 49ers have, it's the run game
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: on defense.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: John Lott joining us, courtesy of Chambers Bay Distillery. All right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the NFC for a second, though. What
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: a mushy middle this thing is. You've got Minnesota, which
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: they're an absolute mirage. They're an absolute mirage. 5-0. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: they've got tough games coming up, too.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: We were just talking about how the Rams and the
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Niners scheduled them. We're going to see, as you said,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: November 22nd in Mexico City, the Niners playing. But they've
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: got three or four really tough games coming up. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: we both know, I don't trust Kyler Murray. There's no way.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Defensively, they're good. Offensively, nah, I don't buy them. You
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: guys are going back to, you're going on the road
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to get Mexico city now. Yeah. Yeah. So do the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: 49ers just take the, the, the United States or what's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: going on in America? You know what? It's the NFL. They're, No,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they're really popular in Mexico. You know what I mean?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Just like I'm really popular in Germany, you know, like Hasselhoff.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Like they just, for some reason, they just, that's their territory.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Like Mexico City is like Niner Central. So really high elevation.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: They'll beat Minnesota because it's just going to be, the
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: whole place is going to be red.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: And that's a home game for them. So that's just
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: what they do. Giants, Giants lead the East. That's only
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: because someone has to win the East and someone has
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to win the South. If the playoffs were to start today,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: we've got 12 weeks left. This is stupid. But think
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: about this. Three teams from the North, Green Bay, Detroit,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and Chicago would all be in Seattle, and the Rams
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: would be left out. Now, they're all at 3-2, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: it's all tiebreakers right now. None of those teams are good.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: It's still going to be the three teams. The thing
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that feels like is going to happen this year in
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: the NFC West, and I guess it sort of happened
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: last year and all three still got in, these teams
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: are just going to beat each other up. So you
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: better not lose the other games. If you're the Rams,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and the 49ers, if you lose, it better
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: be somebody in your division. It better be one of
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the other two teams because outside of that, Cause that
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: conference tiebreaker comes into play and that's going to be,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that's problematic. It's already problematic for Seattle, right? Cause the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: two conference losses, one, a decent one. You can say,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you know, this is college football. Good loss. Good loss
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to the 49ers. That's a good loss. That's a good loss.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: The commander's loss was not a good loss, right? That's
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: just not a good loss. I mean, Atlanta two and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: three Pennix makes them better. Philadelphia is a dumpster fire.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Dallas can't stop anybody.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It's, I don't know, man. I, I think we're looking
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: at San Francisco winning the division. I hate to give
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: them to you. You know what? I'm going to hand
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it to you guys right now. You guys have already
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: won the division. Oh, don't try to put pressure on. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I see what you're doing.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Congratulations.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: You already won the division. You've won the division.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Chicago's the only team, when they get Caleb Williams back,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Chicago's the only team that could come out of that
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: whole thing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But like you said, the South and the East, whatever.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: They're done.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: So that's the only other division. Maybe the Lions could
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: get some defense at the deadline. Maybe the Packers, although
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: I don't see that. But like you said, and the
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: big reason why or the reason it's such a big
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: deal to win this division is because like look at
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: last year. If you don't win the division, then you're
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: probably on the road against the other two teams in
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the division. So let's just say for the sake, just
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: like last year, Seattle's at home. They get San Francisco
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: at home.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: They get the Rams at home.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: This year, if the 49ers win the division, it's going
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to be Rams and Seahawks again. I mean, it's just
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: whoever the Seahawks play from the south or the east,
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: whoever the Rams play from the south or the east,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: they're going to win those games. And then it's going
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: to come down to a game where you're going to
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: have to play on the road potentially against the Rams
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: and then play on the road again.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Potentially against the 49ers.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: And look, could the Seahawks win that or could the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Rams win that?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: But you'd rather have those games like we saw last
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: year at home like the Seahawks did.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And that's what you're facing. I don't care north, east, south.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: None of those teams are going to matter.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: It's going to come down to these three teams and
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: one of these teams having to try to, who doesn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: win the division, go on the road twice against the
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: other two.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: That's almost impossible. You've been really nice today. I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: like it. I don't like it. Well, I just, you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: know what? I feel bad.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I just, I kind of feel bad. You know, you
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: got two losses. It's like, it's not even fun. You know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: it's like when, you know, if you were four and
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: one and hadn't lost that, that game in Washington, it
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: was like, you know, now we'd be like, oh, that
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: was a tie, you know, all that kind of stuff. And,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: you know, the Rams are two and three. Although, like
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I said, the Rams schedule is so easy. They're going
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: to be sitting there eight and three, nine and three,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and they're going to be right back in it. Here's
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: the hard part for the Seahawks and the Rams. The
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Niners scheduled down the stretch is kind of tough. But
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: with a 5-0 start now, they could go like 8-4
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: and still go 13-4.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: And what is it? 13-4, 14-3 probably win the win.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You better stop trying to do math. If you're doing
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: math on the radio, it's going to be bad for you. Yes,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I'm terrible at math. It's terrible. It's really bad for you.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: You get the idea, whatever I said. I'm sure my
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: math is flawed, but you get the idea.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: How are Niner fans? Are they just sticking their heads
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: out this week? You know what?
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I would comp them, too, just for your listeners, because
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: there's a bunch of Husky fans and the Huskies stink
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: and whatever. Didn't Utah State come back against Washington State?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Have we brought that up yet?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Probably haven't. Did we lose the connection to John? I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: think we lost the connection.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Can't hear him.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: But you know what? We would both agree on this
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: because we worked in that market. It's the obnoxiousness of
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: the Ducks fans, which, of course, has been knocked down
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: a couple of pegs. But when they're riding high with
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Dan Lanning and he's talking a bunch of trash and
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: they're obnoxious and unbearable at the office or whatever and
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: they've got their stupid O thing in their window or whatever.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And they're doing the O. That's kind of what it's like.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You know, as Husky fans will point out and most
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: others of good programs across the country will point out
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that O is actually a zero. That's the national championships
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: in Oregon's one. You know, so Dan Lennon can pop
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: off all he wants about his, you know. He can't now, but,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of. He's awful quiet this week,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: isn't he? You know, it's like you spent $ 2 million
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: on a backup quarterback who couldn't get a win against
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: UCLA in those powder puff jerseys, man. I mean, come
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: on now. Come on now.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Bourbon on the way. Cheers from Chambers Bay Distillery. You
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: sure that people in Seattle don't need that bourbon more
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: than I do? I mean, I need it. They can
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: get it easier up here than you can get it
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: down there. This is a gift from Alan and Jeff
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: at Chambers Bay Distillery to you, and a congratulations. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: love those guys. They're my best friends. Anybody who gives
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you booze is automatically your best friend. Yeah, exactly. Well,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: those guys are your best buddies now. We'll talk to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: you next week. See you. See ya. That's John Lund.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Take a break. Come back. Much more to come on
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the show. We've got Stuart Mandel talking. We'll talk about
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: those ducks with Mandel a little bit later on at
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJR FM. Welcome back.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Rolling along.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Lund wasn't as bad as I thought he would be.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, you said it. He was actually nice. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: now that worries me more.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: It's like he's just preparing himself for them to beat
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: us more than this.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Don't like it at all. Don't like it at all. Yeah.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Not a fan.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Not a fan.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Fan of Lund, not a fan of that kindness. Just
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: wanted him to be a total turd today.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He just was kind of, well, he's getting bourbon
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: out of the deal.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Right? He's getting bourbon out of the deal, so I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. You know, I think if
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: you like, he didn't want to ruffle too many feathers,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: but That's a good thing for him. That's a good
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: thing for him. Well, coming up at the top of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the hour, we'll go through the injury report. The Broncos
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: have a lot of injuries. Seattle's got a few. You know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I was on with the morning guys today in Denver. And,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you know, injury reports are always weird. Like, limited turns
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: into not even on the list. Like, Leonard Williams last week.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Then limited turns into you're not playing. I know Talanoa
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Hufanga's not playing for sure for the Broncos. Yeah, saw that. Yeah, Sertain,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I think, might be in trouble.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: So.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That'd be too bad.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be mad at it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I'd be unfortunate.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be mad at it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I'll try to keep an eye on that, what's going
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: on there. So a lot, that's a, we'll go through
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that a little bit coming up in the next segment.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It is a, for both teams, both teams who were
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: in a conference championship game last year, a massive, massive
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: game coming up tomorrow in Denver. Like just huge. I think,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I think that for Seattle and, I don't know. You
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: know what? I'm wrong. I was going to say for Seattle,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it's bigger. It's not. Kansas City's undefeated too in the
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: AFC West.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And the AFC West or the AFC as a whole
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: isn't quite as much of a dumpster fire as it
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: feels like the NFC is. But like the problem is,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: is if you had designs on winning a division, they're
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: not over, but they're damn close in Seattle.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They're damn close. They're really, it's getting into code red
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: right now is what it is. We'll go through that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: in just a couple seconds, kind of paint the picture
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: for you as we do with Lund. We will check
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: in with Stuart Mandel at 1220. Guys, I hate, I'm
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: going to bite on something, Ash. I'm going to bite
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: on something and it's going to make me mad. Uh-oh.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys, I don't love when like random
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: lists pop up on like Twitter feeds and stuff, but
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I found one having to do with sports hatred. Somewhat interesting.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: As it relates to the Big Ten. Okay. I may
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: find myself defending Washington here in a minute. Oh, man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: That's going to hurt.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: It will.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But I think I may find myself doing that in
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a second. So, stand by for that. Okay. That's next.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, gosh.