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Talking All The NASCAR Drama From Daytona | Kenny Wallace Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  All right, Hello, everybody. We are live the Kenny Wallace
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  Show. There he is, Herm.
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  The herminator. Kenny Wallace.
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  I am Charlie Marlow. We said, you know what?
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  We're going to do a live show because it's Daytona week, Herm.
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  There's so much going on. There's the good, there's the
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  bad, there's the ugly. There's the drama.
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  There's racing every night. And people love it.
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  And first of all, how the hell are you, Sir?
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  Buddy, I'm doing really good. You know, we've been doing
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  coffee with Kenny and of course, I went to Europe, I went to
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  Daytona. We raced at Volusia.
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  That Sunoco dirt car was fast, ran real good.
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  Now, we didn't get a Gator. That was a little disappointing,
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  but we sure did show up and we were super fast on the last
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  night. But yeah, I, I, I'm watching the
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  ARCA race right now and it's listen, it's a, it's a good
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  race. But they are, they are loose.
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  They are trying to reckon, Charlie, they have only went 40
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  laps in one hour. It they have, they have been
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  racing for a little over an hour and they've gone 40 laps.
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  And the breaking news is that Cletus McFarlane, who has 4.1
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  million followers on YouTube, Cletus McFarlane has wrecked out
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  and but he'll, he'll make a good YouTube special out of that.
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  But they're they're bopping and weaving it and they even have
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  Elio Castroneves is running 16th and that's a whole nother story.
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  So that that's what I have for you right now.
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  I'm doing good. All right, you know, Cletus
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  McFarlane, by the way, we got to get him on Kenny conversation.
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  He might be the one person that people ask for more than anybody
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  else in the comments that you need to interview.
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  And we I think we can get him and here's why because he's
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  really good friends with Greg Biffle.
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  And I don't know if I ever got his phone number from Biffle.
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  Let me see. OO Now you know what's great
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  about this is that when he went to NASCAR, he had to use his
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  real name. So his real name is Garrett
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  Mitchell. And in Cletus family is really
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  wealthy, but he dumbed his name down so people who wouldn't be
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  mad at him. So he called himself Cletus.
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  I'm Cletus McFarlane. His real name is Garrett
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  Mitchell. Comes from a very wealthy
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  family. And now I know why because he's
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  very smart. And like I said, he's got four
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  4,140,000. You know, he's killing it on
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  YouTube. So he's doing it right.
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  But yeah, he's out. He wrecked out.
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  And you know, Charlie Cletus got in trouble right away with
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  NASCAR. I was this morning.
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  I saw Cletus's post on YouTube. He says NASCAR has already put
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  me, Cletus McFarlane, on probation.
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  NASCAR told Cletus. Cletus, you cannot use your own
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  camera inside the race car because that's banned because
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  other teams can see some of your data.
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  It's always been banned. You just can't do it.
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  Well, he did it and didn't really realize the rules.
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  So but he admitted his fault and so poor Cletus already on
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  probation by NASCAR for breaking the rules have trying to create
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  his own. He he come to Daytona with his
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  own cameras ready for YouTube. But they but, but NASCAR knows
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  they need Cletus. So they said, Cletus, you're on
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  probation. We're mad at you.
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  However, we will put our own camera in your car and we will
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  provide you the footage. So Cletus, McFarlane and NASCAR
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  working together. So it's all good.
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  All right, well, Speaking of good, we have a bunch of good
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  things, Herm. We have a few bad things.
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  Where do you want to start? We can work backwards from last
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  night. I mean, there was a ton of news
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  earlier in the week right before qualifying as well.
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  I'll throw it to you. Where would you like to start?
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  Well, I feel like people like juicy things and and and you
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  know, in business, they say, look, tell me the bad first,
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  let's get it out of the way. So be be because of that thought
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  process because there's so much good going on, right?
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  Let's end with the good. Let's let people walk away from
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  the Kenny Wallace show with the good.
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  So let's get the bad. I would say the controversy
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  didn't see that coming. Let's get that out of the way,
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  Charlie. OK.
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  So are you talking about last night first with Kligerman?
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  Are you talking about Eric Jones?
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  Because we got we got some options here.
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  We really do. You know, they wrecked again.
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  Big wreck. Sorry.
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  All good. Oh, my God.
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  I can't help it. OK, so you want to go?
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  I mean, we can go in chronological order.
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  I tell you what, It doesn't matter when you tell me.
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  Then we'll check it all. So you're the boss.
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  Go ahead and go. All right, let's let's start
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  with the the Eric Jones just because that's that's the cup
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  guys, obviously. So you have the the duels and we
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  can get into the fact obviously, you know, it's the big week for
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  Dale Junior and Justin Allgeier gets in and Bubba Wallace wins
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  the first duel. But then the second duel and
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  we've had this now twice this week we've had a driver with
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  both Eric Jones and then Claire Griven last night celebrating
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  Victory Lane. They got the trophy.
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  Whatever it is, they got the well, they can have the, the
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  checkered flag at least. And then Nope, not so fast.
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  So, and it was, it was pretty funny.
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  It, it sucked for Eric Jones, but you're you're watching him,
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  you're seeing him, he's looking at the camera at that point, he
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  probably knows there's a decent chance they're going to take
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  that win from him. And of course, the caution, it
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  came out and when it did, Austin Sindrich was ahead.
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  So no win for Eric Jones. And I remember on Coffee with
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  Kenny, you said you didn't really love that decision.
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  So first of all, what you said was key.
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  When they were showing Eric Jones, he knew he didn't win the
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  race. He you know, you know that,
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  right? Let me just say this.
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  The reason we all wanted Eric Jones to win because the number
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  43 at Daytona, that's key. We know Bobby Hamilton has one
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  in the 43. We know the 43 is 1.
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  The number 43, Richard Petty has not won at Daytona since 1977.
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  It was really good to see that. You know, Jimmie Johnson owned
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  the team. That's that's another story.
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  Jimmie Johnson owns that team now, Charlie, he said that the
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  original owner just wanted to relax.
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  I saw the press conference. So Jimmie Johnson reports that
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  the original owner just wanted to relax and enjoy it.
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  He didn't want to get involved in, you know, making the team
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  better. And I heard that the new legacy
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  team basically with Jimmie Johnson and of course Eric
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  Jones, that nobody even knows anybody because they cleaned
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  house over there. So the Eric Jones car is as of
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  right now quicker because Jimmie Johnson, our seven time
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  champion, clean the house and that's what they said on an
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  interview and Jimmy answered it. So and then along with that came
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  that hey, yeah, you know what is it?
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  The original Gallagher is is the original owner Maury Maury said,
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  look man, I just want to smoke cigars and have a drink and
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  watch y'all race. So that's the reason that 43 was
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  upfront because I think Jimmy Johnson's got all his buddies in
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  there. But you know, it was a hell of a
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  finish coming to the start finish line.
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  Now let's talk. I give you the back story on why
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  the 43 was running good, right? They come to the start finish
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  line. They're wrecking their butts
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  off. They throw the caution.
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  I don't know, football, maybe a football field, maybe a half a
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  football field before the start finish line.
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  It's very clear that Austin Syndrich is still in the lead.
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  And you know, it's very disappointing.
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  I didn't like the ruling because it was a bummer that they ruled
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  right. It was the right rule.
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  It was the right rule, but it doesn't mean at that moment we
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  can't say that sucks. So, you know, and then of
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  course, I went on my rant on coffee with Kenny because and I
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  still feel the same way about this Eric Jones loss.
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  We wanted the Eric Jones car to win, but if NASCAR had not done
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  that, somebody would have been saying you, you should have
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  throw the caution, you're not consistent.
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  Then you have Mark Martin come out and go.
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  Look what happened to me. They didn't, they didn't throw
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  the caution while I was leading or you know, vice versa.
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  But I reminded everybody where the rule came from.
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  It came from Dale Jarrett spinning out at Loudon.
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  And back in the day, we used to the caution come out and you
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  would race all the way through the wreck, threw the wreck
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  almost running into cars that are wrecked.
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  And we used to race back Charlie, to the start finish
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  line. It was absolutely pandemonium.
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  It was insane. So NASCAR invested, oh God,
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  twenty $20 million and they put all these lines on the racetrack
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  with, with digital lines, all these cameras and it's OK when
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  the caution comes out, y'all let off the gas and we'll figure it
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  out in the tower. So I was pissed off on coffee
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  with Kenny because I said, man, it was a great night.
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  Well, because of the very last 50 foot of one race, everybody's
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  like, I hate NASCAR. I'm like, Oh my God, people,
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  people. It was a great night.
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  It was a great night. You know, Bubba Wallace wins
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  over here with side by side, Dale Junior's in the race with
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  Justin Allgar. That was great.
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  That was great. Then we go to the second duel
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  and it's almost, it's pretty much a photo finish.
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  And now everybody's because of that one deal.
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  I hate NASCAR. I'm like people, you, you are
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  already starting off on the wrong foot.
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  So I've addressed it. We wanted Eric Jones to win.
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  But the rules, you know, you know, listen, I can see both
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  sides. I can see people going don't pay
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  attention to the rules and I can see people saying you got to be
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  consistent. So that's what happened and OK.
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  So to me, it kind of reminds me of the opposite though.
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  So remember last year when you had the the race manipulation
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  stuff at the end? What was that?
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  That was Martinsville, remember? Remember at the end of the race,
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  it was pretty obvious with with the cameras.
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  They were on Christopher Bell, they were on William Byron.
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  It was pretty obvious that the winner was not yet determined.
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  And I don't like to, to RIP on TV broadcast 'cause I, I worked
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  in TV for a long time and, and so did you.
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  And it's a hard job. But I do think part of it and
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  maybe the let down for fans is if they're hearing on TV and
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  they're seeing on TV that there's a winner.
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  And I know this is a very tough spot, but I feel like sometimes
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  if if the broadcast crew knows there's a chance there might
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  have been a caution, if they're a little less definitive in
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  their call at the end, they go, OK, wait, folks, there's there's
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  a wreck behind. We got it.
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  We got to check the caution, make sure this is good.
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  I think when you when you hear Eric Jones one, when you see him
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  celebrate, you see him grab the checkered flag, it's so much
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  more of a let down. And I just thought of this
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  because last year when we're watching for 20 minutes, which
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  was too long, but we're watching Christopher Bell and we're
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  watching William Byron, it at least prepared the audience for
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  knowing they didn't know yet who was going to.
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  When I say win the race, I mean advance to advance to to Phoenix
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  last year. That's what I meant.
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  Yeah, First of all, I hear you loud and clear and I agree with
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  you and and I have addressed this.
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  I said two years ago, whatever you do, don't figure this out on
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  Wednesday and say who the winner is.
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  I said stay longer on the broadcast.
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  Martinsville was perfect because they kept everybody on TV live
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  for 1010 minutes and they said, OK, this is it.
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  And when we all turn the TV off at Martinsville, that was that.
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  OK, so now I know what you're talking about on the Duels,
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  where, yeah, Eric Jones is the winner.
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  And then all of a sudden you hear Clint border.
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  Go hold on, guys. I don't know.
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  This is happening because now they're hearing things.
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  Maybe Clint should have not said anything, Maybe, maybe I I don't
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  know the back story. Did Eric Jones go to Victor
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  Lane? Not Victor Lane, but did Eric
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  Jones go to the front straightaway by himself?
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  OK, Yeah, did. Did his team say go to the front
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  straightaway? I don't.
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  Something made Eric Jones go to the front straightaway.
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  Somebody. Yeah, most likely his team.
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  OK, so, but but I do say that NASCAR did get it right at
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  Martinsville last year because I said they should do that.
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  I said make a make a separate show out of it.
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  You know, instead of NASCAR Victory Lane, it's you know,
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  it's and that's what we used to do.
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  We used to go to, you know, the, you know, the race was over.
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  Now let's go to Victory Lane. So they did get it right.
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  But listen, we are in a tough era right now.
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  We are in a very, very tough era.
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  I mean, in such a strange way right now.
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  I know this is not the same thing, but I mean, there's a
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  camera on every street corner. You pick your nose nowadays and
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  they're like, look, he's picking his nose, He's picking his.
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  I mean, everything is on show right now and everybody's
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  getting criticized right now. I do not want NASCAR's job
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  because the only way they can do this is just relax the rules and
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  say there's no rules. That's the only way I can get
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  away with it. But then people be complaining
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  again because we have this new era.
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  This is new. Remember NASCAR, there used to
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  be no complaining. It was a free for all.
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  We would cheat our cars up and it was fun.
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  And nowadays there's rules for everything.
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  Yeah, and I also think last last night the Kligerman deal was in
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  a way even worse. And I'll be the first one to to
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  admit I I didn't watch the race, but I was following it on my
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  phone. But again, this one reminds me
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  of something. Also, it kind of reminds me of
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  of way after the fact when you see the tweet about Alex
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  Bowman's car right where like the race is over, you're done.
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  You're done watching, You're done even watching on TV.
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  You sit on your couch after dinner.
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  An hour later, and you and you read on.
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  X. Oh, Alex Bowman's car didn't
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  pass inspection. He's out of the play offs.
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  Joey Logano's in. I think in a weird way, it's
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  almost worse when you do Victory Lane, you do everything.
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  It's almost like the broad. And I don't know if the
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  broadcast was over, to be honest with you, but it was late.
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  It was obviously much later after inspection.
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  And it's like, oh, no, Parker Clergman, he actually didn't win
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  at all. Like you didn't see what you
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  saw. So, so that's a great thought.
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  Do we not do post race inspection because they've
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  already inspected the cars before the race?
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  See, I'm, I'm a big proponent of we inspected the cars before the
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  race. OK, it's over, but that's hard
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  because it at at at Daytona and Talladega, you can do chassis
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  adjustments with the wrench like at Daytona.
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  You if you can lower the rear of the car, Charlie, you can lower
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  the rear of the car Daytona and pick up a second because you're
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  getting the spoiler out of the air, right.
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  But you, you know, NASCAR has got to give you leeway to like,
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  if my I'm loose, you can put one round in the left rear.
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  That's called putting ledge in. You can take one round out of
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  the right rear. So you know, it's a tough
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  scenario. You know, you, you got to give
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  them adjustments during the race because they got to make their
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  car handle. So here's what I say.
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  And they used to do with our spoilers when a race is over at
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  Daytona and Talladega, maybe they have a pad for the winner.
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  Maybe the winner goes on that pad and they measure the front
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  and rear and then make a make a drama out of it.
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  And your winner, ladies and gentlemen, is Parker Klickerman.
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  He's going to go to the inspection pad.
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  That's what they do that Charlie.
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  That's what they do for dirt racing.
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  So let's let's do the scenario. Just like you said, Parker
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  Klegerman wins the race last night.
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  He's going to go to the pad, ladies and gentlemen, let's see
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  before he goes to Victor Lane. Oh no, ladies and gentlemen,
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  look, the whole world can see Parker Klegerman's rear of his
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  car is low. He's not your winner.
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  And they push him up and they bring Corey Heim up.
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  Corey Hines legal. That's your real winner.
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  I think that's what they got to do.
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  That's my new deal, I think. And and, and and and Good time
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  is right. That's what they do at Volusia.
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  That's what they do at the dirt tracks.
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  We got to get it to where we know who the winner is.
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  Charlie, I agree with you. We got to know who the winner is
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  before they do all those pictures in Victory Lane,
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  because they got all those pictures of Victory Lane.
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  What are they? What are they going to do with
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  the pictures from Victory Lane? Yeah, got to go to the scales
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  for the green light, you know, Susan says.
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  I think that, you know, it is very, very hard to inspect the
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  cars. You know, they're racing.
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  They, they, what they do, they it's called droop.
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  It's basically same thing is, is 1/4 pound height.
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  I'd like to see NASCAR go, OK, there's three things that can be
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  part of our broadcast. The race is over.
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  Let's follow the car. The the height in the front is
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  good. The height in the rear is good.
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  On the scales it goes. He's your winner.
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  So, yeah, I like everything you said there, Charlie, Because
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  when you went back to last year when Alex Bowman was considered
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  light an hour after the race, and now we put Joey Logano in,
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  somehow, you know, NASCAR is listening to this right now.
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  Somehow we need to make another TV show.
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  The race is over, but let's watch him go through inspection.
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  But only only these inspection points that make him legal.
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  You know, the things that take two minutes, 2 minutes and and
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  that could be weight, the weight of the car and the height.
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  And we would have known last night because I love Parker
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  Kligerman, great guy. So much to say about him talent.
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  Parker Kligerman. He's a whole another story where
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  it's I told Parker, I said Parker, this is so weird.
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  You're such a great race car driver, but you you're going to
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  do TV. You know, he's he's been in and
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  out of that deal twice. This is the second time now, you
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  know, he quit racing, but the truck race was an off off race
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  deal charm. He quit the Xfinity Series.
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  And so that's the only way I can see to answer your question is
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  to do a whole nother copy dirt racing because that's what they
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  do. Your winner last night, ladies
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  and gentlemen, is Devin Moran. He's going to the scales.
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  His weight is good now he's checking the droop.
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  He's. He's your winner.
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  Yeah. So.
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  Yeah. And.
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  I saw a couple people say this even.
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  I'm sure you have maybe stories of this where if Klegerman in
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  his victory lap, if he just Rams that thing into the wall, then
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  nobody knows, right? You can't.
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  You can't measure right. Boy, that all started with Jimmy
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  Johnson, you know, and his crew chief.
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  So you know, Jimmie Johnson wins Talladega and they catch Chad
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  Canals on radio going before the race.
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  So so the camp before the race even starts, they don't know
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  that the camera is on. So Fox has it in car camera and
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  I don't know who I don't know who leaked this, but there
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  there's Chad before the race bending over the door going OK,
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  remember now if we win this race, you got to wreck the car.
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  Now that that wasn't that wasn't made for TV, but they found it.
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  So, you know, I, I do listen, I do feel bad for NASCAR in this
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  instant that they're just constantly trying to screw
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  NASCAR. The teens are constantly trying
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  to cheat, you know what I mean? Constantly and and then when
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  NASCAR goes, you're cheating, then the fans get mad.
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  I don't like NASCAR. Well, first of all, Alex was
• 22:00
  light. Parker's rearing was too low and
• 22:04
  it and there's 30 people watching the car go through
• 22:07
  tech. It's like Parker's ass in of his
• 22:09
  truck was too low. If you don't do nothing about
• 22:12
  it, it's going to ricochet through the garage area that you
• 22:15
  know, because there's people watching.
• 22:18
  You know, you can watch these cars go through tech, Charlie,
• 22:21
  you know what I mean? You can watch it.
• 22:23
  So it's there for everybody. See.
• 22:25
  So if you don't say, if you don't say Parker Klingerman's
• 22:29
  truck was too low, then it's NASCAR's fixed, you know?
• 22:34
  So, yeah, that's the bad. That's the bad is that you know,
• 22:38
  so. Yeah.
• 22:40
  All right. So, Charlie, we have put to bed
• 22:42
  the Eric Jones deal. We have put to bed the Parker
• 22:45
  Klingerman deal. What else bad do you have?
• 22:49
  OK, so I don't know if it's bad or awkward or just moving on
• 22:54
  basically. So Pitbull, Pitbull.
• 22:56
  I'll I'll read the tweet. This is from this is from
• 23:00
  yesterday, the 14th. Happy Valentine's Day by the
• 23:02
  way, everybody. Pitbull says ending partnership
• 23:05
  with Track House Racing. Over the past five years, we've
• 23:08
  made history by introducing NASCAR to a whole new audience
• 23:11
  and falling in love with NASCAR fans.
• 23:13
  At the same time. We have made the decision to
• 23:15
  terminate the partnership with Track House Racing, effective
• 23:18
  immediately. We're looking forward to
• 23:20
  performing on the sport's biggest stage this Sunday, the
• 23:23
  Daytona 500. It is a true honor, Dale.
• 23:27
  So that was pretty matter of fact, though, right?
• 23:30
  And the timing is kind of awkward.
• 23:32
  And it wasn't like Pitbull said, Hey, I want to thank Track House
• 23:35
  for our great partnership. And it was awesome.
• 23:37
  It felt pretty awkward to me. Kenny, as I'm reading that, what
• 23:41
  do you think? I have inside sources and they
• 23:49
  said to me, interesting to hear what your take is on this,
• 23:52
  Kenny. Like they were reaching out to
• 23:53
  me want to know what my take is. So I've got to, I've got a text
• 23:58
  here and it's just easier for me to read this out.
• 24:01
  It was, this was my point of view.
• 24:06
  I said this, my point of view is this now this is my opinion.
• 24:11
  This is not fact. Respond right here.
• 24:15
  We will write, we will wait. You know, team Track House is
• 24:18
  going to come out. Will they come out?
• 24:21
  Will they say what happened? This smells.
• 24:24
  The high heaven smell smells like there was an argument.
• 24:28
  OK, so I don't want, you know, Justin, if you're watching this,
• 24:32
  Justin Marks, don't get mad at me.
• 24:34
  We're just we're just talking. So don't get mad at me, OK?
• 24:37
  Justin Marks, I love you. I think you're awesome.
• 24:41
  Here's what I think with my experience.
• 24:45
  I don't think Pitbull brought any money.
• 24:49
  My opinion, they most likely used Pitbull to try to get
• 24:54
  money. I think team track house brought
• 24:58
  Pitbull in. He's a Latino.
• 25:00
  Daniel Suarez is a Latino. Latinos.
• 25:03
  Let's get let's get some Latino money in here now.
• 25:09
  Now they probably need money because Justin Marks is holy
• 25:14
  moly. I mean what is going on over
• 25:16
  there? It's getting to be where like
• 25:19
  you, I mean, you guys got two cars in the Cup series.
• 25:23
  Now they're they're trading all these.
• 25:27
  It's like it's like there's money flowing into Justin Marks
• 25:31
  and team track house. I think they probably need
• 25:35
  money. And Pitbull said that was not my
• 25:38
  deal. I don't got any money.
• 25:41
  And here's the reason I think that.
• 25:44
  And by the way, I was told I was 100% accurate.
• 25:48
  That's what I was told. I was told that I was accurate.
• 25:53
  And the reason I think that way was years ago.
• 25:58
  They, I'm not going to name names because he told me, but
• 26:03
  you know, you, you remember you had Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw,
• 26:07
  you had all these football players coming in.
• 26:09
  Well, they never brought any money either, but they were
• 26:12
  hoping that them being famous was going bring everybody in.
• 26:16
  You know, it's like you and I having a hero.
• 26:19
  Albert Pools is our man. Albert.
• 26:21
  Oh, he's so famous. Well, Charlie's famous with us.
• 26:25
  OK, What happens if I said my dirt car is owned by Albert
• 26:29
  Pools? And in my mind, I think that
• 26:32
  that means money's going to flow in.
• 26:35
  And then the fad wears off two years later, and there's no
• 26:38
  money. My opinion is that Pitbull was
• 26:43
  there to help them gain popularity.
• 26:48
  And I think with what I see going on with Team Track House,
• 26:53
  they they must have more money than God because they got way
• 26:58
  more than these cup teams. And I think they're looking for
• 27:01
  money. And I think Pitbull said I ain't
• 27:04
  got no money. I'm out boys.
• 27:08
  Now Pitbull announces this himself.
• 27:11
  So by him announcing it himself, I think there's it's muddy,
• 27:17
  right? You know, You know, what's
• 27:19
  Justin thinking right now? Justin Marks thinking now, do I
• 27:24
  got to make a statement? Who knows?
• 27:28
  He don't really got to do anything.
• 27:30
  All it did was force me to react.
• 27:32
  Why did one of the most famous singers in American history,
• 27:37
  Pitbull? I mean, look at I don't want to
• 27:40
  hear that. He's not famous.
• 27:41
  He's famous, OK Worldwide. That's his nickname.
• 27:45
  Mr. Worldwide. Yeah, so that's what I think
• 27:49
  happened. I think I think they said, hey,
• 27:52
  we need some money. And I think Pitbull said, oh,
• 27:55
  that was not my deal man. You know, and and Pitbull is
• 27:59
  going to do a pre race concert for the Daytona 500.
• 28:03
  That's why I think Pitbull had to come out and say something.
• 28:06
  Because if if Pitbull shows up at Daytona and does the concert
• 28:10
  before the race and he's not even nowhere near around team
• 28:14
  track house. Yeah, why don't you wait your
• 28:17
  car? And it's like, oh, we split up
• 28:19
  last year. That's another thing I heard
• 28:23
  Little Birdie told me they split up last year.
• 28:26
  Don't be getting mad at me. I'm just saying that's what
• 28:28
  people telling me. But all this started with
• 28:31
  Pitbull coming out on his own. So yeah, they got a mess on
• 28:36
  their hand right there. And either way, to me, you know,
• 28:38
  the Pitbull thing, it kind of reminds me a little bit of some
• 28:41
  of these ownership groups, like with Magic Johnson, right?
• 28:44
  Magic Johnson, he, he put some money in, don't get me wrong,
• 28:46
  like with the Dodgers and all that.
• 28:48
  And he's, he's been the face of a lot of ownership groups.
• 28:51
  I think even with the football, right, with the Washington
• 28:53
  Commanders, I'm I'm pretty sure, but he's not the main money guy,
• 28:56
  right? But he's the face.
• 28:58
  He's the one that's bringing all the money guys together and he's
• 29:01
  the popular guy everybody loves. And I feel like Pitbull was kind
• 29:04
  of that a little bit with track off to me.
• 29:07
  You know what people always say everything ends badly or it's
• 29:10
  not going to end. I still think it seemed like a
• 29:12
  really positive thing. Like, I do think he probably
• 29:14
  brought new eyeballs to NASCAR. And for what track House needed
• 29:18
  at the time, he was probably the perfect guy.
• 29:20
  But he's not the perfect guy right now.
• 29:22
  Charlie well said. I agree with you, everything is
• 29:25
  good. It just can't, it just cannot
• 29:28
  end in the public eye. If pitbulls out that don't say
• 29:33
  nothing, but I think what forced Pitbull to say something is he's
• 29:37
  going to do the pre race concert.
• 29:40
  You know what I mean? I mean it's no different than a
• 29:42
  rod is going to own what the Minnesota basketball team.
• 29:46
  I I just read word. Yeah, so here's Alex Rod.
• 29:50
  Is he really going to own it? You know, now that's the next
• 29:52
  question, because this is the new fad or these great at now
• 29:56
  one thing we know one thing we can't D bullshit.
• 30:00
  Michael Jordan owns 2311 because that guy's got he making.
• 30:05
  We already watched you know the movie and it's reported Michael
• 30:09
  Jordan is making right now forty $44 million a year and he don't
• 30:14
  he don't do nothing. So yeah, that's it.
• 30:19
  OK, how about and then we have a lot of positive to talk about
• 30:23
  too. But I, I think this is the last
• 30:24
  of my, my, my negative section. How about just so, so NASCAR
• 30:29
  announces and it was a timing thing, but about the appeal to
• 30:32
  the lawsuit. And I, I really don't think
• 30:35
  maybe I'm maybe I'm going to be wrong.
• 30:36
  I don't think the lawsuit is really going to hang over the
• 30:38
  season that much that that's what I think.
• 30:40
  But we had some news this week. And then also you've talked
• 30:44
  about this a lot. You talked about on Herman
• 30:46
  Schrader, just the, the fact that NASCAR Steve Phelps said,
• 30:49
  hey, we're looking for an outside equity partner to come
• 30:52
  in. We got to speed up our our
• 30:54
  global expansion. When I heard that, I, I wondered
• 30:57
  how much does the lawsuit also play into this?
• 31:01
  With the fact that if, if NASCAR, maybe who knows, But if
• 31:04
  they have to take a little bit of a loss legally over the next
• 31:07
  year and their economic model has to change a little bit and
• 31:10
  maybe be more pro teams as opposed to pro NASCAR, is this
• 31:15
  kind of the perfect time? That coupled with the fact that
• 31:18
  some of the family members are getting older, is it just kind
• 31:21
  of the perfect time to to start to to seek outside partners and
• 31:26
  kind of start the process of of getting out a little bit?
• 31:31
  All good stuff and all kind of tied together, right?
• 31:34
  First of all, the timing. Somebody said NASCAR couldn't
• 31:38
  time this because it was the way it was, right?
• 31:42
  But OK, So what am I? What I mean by this is one hour
• 31:46
  before NASCAR Cup qualifying. On Wednesday, one hour before
• 31:52
  Cup qualifying, it is announced that NASCAR appealed the judge's
• 31:59
  decision to let 2311 and Front Row operate his charters.
• 32:04
  OK, we can't control that. But I'm like, man, that's bad
• 32:09
  timing because everybody's reporting it and you got Bob Pop
• 32:14
  Grass, you know, Jeff Gluck, Matt Weaver, everybody's like,
• 32:17
  oh, this is weird timing. One hour before Daytona
• 32:22
  qualifying, it is announced that NASCAR is appealing the judge's
• 32:27
  decision. You know, NASCAR's pissed.
• 32:30
  Let's be honest. NASCAR's mad at Michael Jordan
• 32:33
  in them. They don't they, they don't.
• 32:35
  NASCAR does not like it that Michael Jordan won the appeal.
• 32:40
  Let's be very clear. NASCAR is losing on all this and
• 32:45
  it's we don't like it, right, because it's our sport.
• 32:48
  Remember we talked about this. I'm going to I'm going to it's
• 32:51
  going to be a comedy, right? Even though it's very serious
• 32:54
  situation. Watch this, Charlie, I'm going
• 32:57
  to play it out. Here's the fans.
• 33:00
  I hate NASCAR. What do you mean you're suing
• 33:03
  NASCAR? I don't like you.
• 33:05
  It's like it the fans are like, let me talk bad about NASCAR,
• 33:09
  but if you really do go after NASCAR, I'm going to be mad at
• 33:12
  you. And that's what kind of went on
• 33:14
  here. The fans don't like front row
• 33:20
  and Michael Jordan going after NASCAR.
• 33:22
  And the problem right now is the optics.
• 33:27
  NASCAR's losing at everything. Now.
• 33:30
  Now we're you know, we're we're we're still going to court.
• 33:33
  Remember, the original suit is NASCAR is a monopoly and they
• 33:39
  don't want anything. They just want, I guess I
• 33:41
  haven't read it, but I I guess they want NASCAR to become less
• 33:45
  of a monopoly. OK, so that's number one.
• 33:49
  We just addressed that bad timing one hour before Daytona
• 33:54
  Cup qualifying for the Daytona 500.
• 33:56
  Now this one that you brought up, they could time, you know,
• 34:03
  Steve Phelps comes out the week of the Daytona 500, says we want
• 34:07
  to sell. What now you're making OK.
• 34:14
  So I have in sources, I have sources on this too.
• 34:23
  What I hear is that NASCAR is not happy with their marketing
• 34:30
  program. And if you notice NASCAR's
• 34:34
  really picked it up lately with, you know, they're really, I
• 34:40
  really feel that they watched how the president of America won
• 34:46
  the presidency. He want it going on.
• 34:49
  Joe Rogan, he want it, you know, with these podcasts, NASCAR is
• 34:55
  taking notice. NASCAR's been very busy on
• 34:58
  TikTok. We all know that NASCAR's been
• 35:00
  all in on TikTok over the last couple years.
• 35:04
  Now NASCAR comes out this morning.
• 35:07
  Let me read it to you. Let me read it to you.
• 35:15
  Hold on here. And while you find it, by the
• 35:20
  way, I watched that documentary they made the other night that's
• 35:23
  so damn close about the Atlanta finish.
• 35:24
  That was pretty cool. I know NASCAR wants more of
• 35:27
  that, those docu series, right, the Netflix and all that.
• 35:30
  It's a great way to market the sport.
• 35:32
  Yeah, So Charlie Marlowe, I sent you this.
• 35:37
  Here it is. I don't know why it's not on my.
• 35:39
  I think I took a picture and sent it to you, but didn't put
• 35:42
  it in my pictures. But yeah, hold on one minute.
• 35:51
  Summary. I didn't take a picture of it.
• 35:53
  Bottom line is, is Adam Stern reports that NASCAR is going to
• 36:00
  focus on YouTube. Now that is per Adam Stern,
• 36:04
  everybody, NASCAR is really going to focus on YouTube.
• 36:09
  Charlie, they coming after me and you because me and you bring
• 36:13
  it on YouTube. Yeah, bring it right.
• 36:16
  But so let me find what my source told me about why NASCAR
• 36:23
  wants to sell. This is worth the wait.
• 36:28
  We don't have to talk every second.
• 36:32
  We can let this breathe a little bit.
• 36:33
  I'll. Tell you what, I can read
• 36:35
  comments while you're looking for.
• 36:36
  It go ahead. We got good time, Good time says
• 36:41
  good time, says NASCAR would love for the junior car to win
• 36:45
  the 500. Justin Allgeier.
• 36:47
  A feel good story for sure. Just delightful, Says TikTok
• 36:53
  doesn't equal Rogan. Different audiences, but I mean
• 36:57
  TikTok, huge audience obviously with.
• 36:59
  Younger folks, I got it right here.
• 37:01
  OK, this is what my source told me.
• 37:04
  That's in in NASCAR in the last few months, NASCAR's clean house
• 37:09
  in sales and marketing positions.
• 37:13
  Some feels is because they aren't doing a good job, but
• 37:16
  that paves the way for a media company to control those aspects
• 37:21
  of the business without messing up the core product.
• 37:24
  Hold on. Just like Liberty did with F1.
• 37:28
  So a media company called Liberty owns Formula One.
• 37:33
  So there's two prongs here. We don't know the real story,
• 37:36
  but my sources tell me number one.
• 37:39
  Well, I just read it to you. They're looking to raise money
• 37:42
  to be more, to be better with media.
• 37:45
  The other one that sounds more viable to me is Jim France is of
• 37:52
  age less a Kennedy is done. Ben Kennedy is young.
• 37:57
  And when you really break it down, here's what's sad.
• 38:02
  None of them are having children.
• 38:05
  Let's go down. Let's go down to the roll right
• 38:07
  here. Does Ben Kennedy have any
• 38:09
  children? Is he married?
• 38:11
  No. Does Jim France have any kids?
• 38:17
  No, Les and Kennedy's the only one left and all she had was Ben
• 38:23
  Bryant, Brian Francis out. There's nobody left and Jim's
• 38:29
  super Jim's of age less. Is that enough?
• 38:33
  So if you really boil it down, all you got left is Ben and Ben
• 38:39
  better get married and have some kids because there's there's
• 38:42
  nobody left. Straight me out right here.
• 38:45
  Am I wrong? Is there any?
• 38:47
  Is there any France has left? You know, I, I said what I said,
• 38:52
  I, I mean it nice. I don't mean it mean they could
• 38:55
  be selling because of that. Maybe there's no more.
• 38:58
  There's no more. There's nobody left.
• 39:00
  So I gave you both for everybody to chew on and all right, we,
• 39:06
  we, we talked about it and I think, I think that's all the
• 39:09
  bad Charlie. Well, let me ask you this
• 39:11
  though, because I do have a question about that.
• 39:14
  And I and I agree. I mean, look what whatever is
• 39:17
  healthy for the sport overall to keep it going.
• 39:19
  If you have to go global, I understand that'll probably piss
• 39:23
  off a few domestic fans here. Now you're probably going to
• 39:27
  take races from tracks that have two, but we've seen some tracks
• 39:32
  lose, just lose their race. My question to you is this, what
• 39:35
  do you think is a realistic international schedule that you
• 39:39
  could actually pull off that would be good for for business
• 39:42
  and not piss off everyone? I'm thinking if you already have
• 39:45
  a Mexico race, that makes sense. Does it even make that much
• 39:48
  sense from a revenue standpoint in Canada?
• 39:50
  I don't know. I mean, could you do one race in
• 39:53
  Europe, maybe one in Japan? I mean, you can't, you can't
• 39:58
  have these dudes going back and forth different continents.
• 40:01
  I mean, even the NFL doesn't do that.
• 40:03
  I know they go over to London but like, you can't have these
• 40:05
  guys be an F1, right? So here, here's my answer to
• 40:09
  that. It depends who this new
• 40:11
  automaker is that Steve Phelps says it's coming in.
• 40:15
  Let let's say. See, I think all this global
• 40:18
  initiative is all about the automaker.
• 40:20
  Let's say it's Honda. Let's say it's Honda.
• 40:23
  Honda's coming in. Where's Honda from?
• 40:26
  Japan. Japan.
• 40:28
  OK, so they got to go to Japan. What?
• 40:31
  What racetrack are they going to use?
• 40:33
  It's going to be Suzuka Circuit. Now we already I I raced there,
• 40:38
  I raced there, we run we ran three years in a row.
• 40:41
  No hold on. We ran Suzuka circuit the first
• 40:45
  two years. The third year we went to
• 40:47
  Motigi, but Motigi got destroyed by an earthquake.
• 40:51
  So Motigi doesn't even isn't even worth it.
• 40:54
  It's not it not even there anymore.
• 40:56
  So I think this whole global initiative is you.
• 41:00
  Let's just say it's Honda. OK, Let's just say it, you know,
• 41:04
  just for, you know, to further the conversation.
• 41:09
  Honda goes, we want to be a car maker, but we'd like you to race
• 41:13
  here in Japan. Well, we've already been to
• 41:15
  Japan, but I'm like you, you know, are you going to run in
• 41:21
  Asia? You going to run in Europe?
• 41:24
  If you're going to go to Europe, it's AI went to Europe.
• 41:28
  I just went to the UKI just landed in London.
• 41:31
  It was seven hour, 45 minutes from Chicago, so, you know, and
• 41:36
  Chicago's about two hours away from the coast.
• 41:40
  If you took off from New York, you could get to London in six
• 41:44
  hours, 6 1/2 hours. So I feel like, you know, it's
• 41:49
  logistics. Are we going to put these cars
• 41:51
  and crates and put them on a ship container?
• 41:54
  Takes a month to get over there. No, I think you're going to have
• 41:59
  to put them in global shipping. You're going to have to put them
• 42:02
  in big jet jumbo jets. Who's going to pay for that?
• 42:07
  Because it's pretty expensive. Somebody's going to pay for it.
• 42:10
  So my answer to you is the global.
• 42:15
  Why is NASCAR, Why is Steve Phelps asphyxiated?
• 42:19
  Why is he obsessed with going global?
• 42:22
  I say it's because the automaker, I say Honda wants it.
• 42:26
  And he says there's another one. So I think Asia is Honda.
• 42:32
  If there's something in Europe, who is it?
• 42:34
  Aston. I'm hearing, I'm hearing
• 42:36
  something weird like what? What is it?
• 42:37
  Aston Martin? I'm hearing all these things.
• 42:42
  But whatever you think, you got to be ready for both sides of
• 42:45
  America. You got to be ready for Asia.
• 42:48
  You got to be ready for Europe. And if they do that, you know, I
• 42:54
  mean, you know, you, you, you stop and think about why does
• 42:58
  anybody want to grow? Because it, you know, everybody
• 43:01
  wants to make money, right? All of you watching this right
• 43:03
  now, I'm talking, I'm talking to you, yes, you don't you're
• 43:07
  watching this right now. Do you want to make more money?
• 43:09
  9 times out of 10 the answer is yes.
• 43:12
  Now the only reason you say no, I don't want to make any money
• 43:15
  because you're retired, you got a good job that's paying 90,000
• 43:19
  a year and your boss goes, if you're on the road every
• 43:22
  weekend, we'll give you 110. I know people that go, I'm happy
• 43:26
  with 90,000 a year. I don't want to make 110 because
• 43:29
  if I make more, I go into a different tax, you know, deal
• 43:34
  and I got to be gone every week. But nine times out of 10,
• 43:39
  Charlie, people all want to make more money.
• 43:41
  And and that's and and I've seen all of your comments here,
• 43:44
  everybody and you and we all say it's all about the money and it
• 43:47
  is it's all about the money. So all I'm saying part of our
• 43:53
  bad very wild for Steve Phelps to come out.
• 43:58
  He wanted to make a point. Steve Phelps wanted everybody to
• 44:01
  hear this. So and that's why I feel.
• 44:05
  All right, well, how about the good?
• 44:06
  There has been a lot of good as well, even if we maybe focus
• 44:10
  more time on the bad because people like the the spicy stuff.
• 44:13
  But. People love bad, so we give your
• 44:15
  bad, yeah. But the Dale Junior story was
• 44:20
  obviously the story of qualifying into the duels.
• 44:24
  That was great. Just an all Guyer and the hugs
• 44:26
  and the interviews and his sound bite about his his daddy at
• 44:30
  Daytona and how he found peace at the track.
• 44:33
  The ratings have been good, right, for qualifying and duels
• 44:36
  and all that. So there's a lot of positivity
• 44:38
  too. And I know you keep saying this,
• 44:40
  hey, NASCAR off to their best start and whatever it is, 20
• 44:42
  years or so and you're getting a little pushback.
• 44:44
  But I don't know, I agree. I mean, I feel like the there's
• 44:48
  a lot of positive vibes out there for Daytona.
• 44:51
  Charlie, before I even respond to you, you and I are a team.
• 44:55
  Can you read two things for me? I sent you everything and you
• 44:59
  have a 2. Can you read the viewership for
• 45:02
  Cup qualifying on Wednesday night?
• 45:05
  And can you read the viewership for The Duels last night?
• 45:12
  OK, so let's see. Let's go.
• 45:15
  We'll go qualifying first. This is from Adam Stern says FS1
• 45:20
  got 916,000 viewers for last night's Daytona 500 qualifying
• 45:26
  session That followed college basketball.
• 45:28
  That's up 12% from 821,000 for the comparable window last year.
• 45:35
  So that was qualifying. That's up.
• 45:39
  That's up a lot. That's up.
• 45:41
  OK, now, now read the viewership for the The Duels.
• 45:45
  OK, duels, I'm trying to find that one too.
• 45:46
  Hold on. Jordan Bianchi, I sent it to
• 45:49
  you. All right, Jordan Bianchi.
• 45:52
  OK, here we go. This is OK.
• 45:55
  This is Stern. Also, I'm sure you sent me one
• 45:57
  from Bianchi, but Stern says, let's see, FS1 scored a 1.836,
• 46:03
  1.836 million viewers for last night's Duels at Daytona, up 12%
• 46:09
  from 1.640 million last year and the best number for the event
• 46:13
  since 2018. So duels up 12%.
• 46:18
  And what do we say that the qualifying was also up 12%,
• 46:21
  right? Yeah, By the way, Elio Castronev
• 46:25
  has wrecked out already. He's wrecked twice.
• 46:28
  OK, let's get a lot of visual results.
• 46:32
  OK, Brendan, Charlie, can I say who the winner of the ARCA race
• 46:35
  is or not? For sure.
• 46:37
  OK, Brendan Queen, he runs Dale Junior's a cars tour race.
• 46:45
  And I didn't see how right, because I, I was.
• 46:48
  But this breaking news, everybody.
• 46:49
  We'll get right back to why NASCAR's off to its best start
• 46:53
  in 20 years. But they were fighting for the
• 46:55
  lead. Brendan Queen wins.
• 46:58
  I'm I'm assuming it's that Queen he won and it's Saulwich.
• 47:05
  These are two these are two short track aces and 97
• 47:11
  Kitzmiller. 4th is Scott and 5th was oh, Elio finished fifth.
• 47:17
  He must erect crossing the start finish line.
• 47:21
  We'll wait for the replay here. But yeah, Brendan Queen, he's a
• 47:25
  hell of a driver. He wins a lot in the in Dale
• 47:29
  Junior's car store. So, OK, let's get back to why
• 47:35
  NASCAR's off to its best start for the duels.
• 47:40
  Last night we had 1.8 million more people watching.
• 47:45
  That's, that's up 12% from last year, but up.
• 47:51
  That's the best in seven years is what Jeff Cluck said.
• 47:55
  So, you know, people were mad that on Thursday night, people
• 48:01
  were mad at me because I I said how great NASCAR's doing.
• 48:04
  They were mad at me. They were mad that, that, you
• 48:07
  know, Eric Jones didn't win. I'm right, I'm right.
• 48:11
  And I'm not going to apologize for being right.
• 48:14
  And here's the stats to prove it.
• 48:15
  Charlie, when you listen to this, when you say 1.8 million
• 48:21
  more people are watching the Cup duels it yourself, 1.8 million
• 48:30
  people, Holy moly, that is a lot of people.
• 48:34
  Now NASCAR is off to its best start.
• 48:38
  Yeah, sure, there's some there's some juicy storylines out there,
• 48:42
  but NASCAR is way better right now than they've ever been.
• 48:46
  And let me be clear, NASCAR took all the seats out of the
• 48:49
  grandstands. We know that NASCAR will never
• 48:53
  be back to the old days. So that's an old story.
• 48:55
  That's 20 years old. We're going on 20 years now.
• 48:59
  NASCAR took all the seats out of the grandstands.
• 49:02
  They only fit 120,000 people. Now there's only 100,000 people
• 49:07
  of the day. Went back in the day, we had
• 49:09
  200,000 people. Guys, that's an old deal.
• 49:12
  We don't even talk like that anymore.
• 49:14
  The only reason I bring it up is for my older viewers.
• 49:17
  So got to get that out of your mind.
• 49:19
  It's no different than disco music.
• 49:21
  You all smashed all the disco records.
• 49:23
  You don't like disco music anymore, which I think is
• 49:26
  ridiculous. I love disco music.
• 49:29
  So see, this is life. All I'm saying is NASCAR is
• 49:33
  still standing. They're still getting billions
• 49:35
  of dollars. They ain't going anywhere.
• 49:38
  You're right. They weren't as big as they used
• 49:40
  to be. But that's that's an old that's
• 49:42
  that's just like old news. So right here, 1.8 Charlie Busch
• 49:50
  Stadium sold out at 47,000 people.
• 49:55
  We're saying 1.8 million more people watch the race on
• 49:59
  Thursday night. If that don't tell you NASCAR's
• 50:03
  kicking ass. I don't know what.
• 50:04
  I don't know what to say. OK, so they are back.
• 50:10
  NASCAR's off to its best start in 20 years.
• 50:13
  I told everybody why. And that's that, that's all
• 50:16
  there is in the racing Charlie, that race at at Bowman Gray, Oh
• 50:22
  my God, what a race. Feel good.
• 50:25
  Short track. We love the short track people.
• 50:29
  Short track, dirt racing, short track.
• 50:33
  It was everything you wanted. It was short track.
• 50:36
  They were interviewing the drivers.
• 50:37
  The woods were right there. Kenny Hamlin sitting on top of
• 50:41
  the hill. And Danny, you're on top of a
• 50:43
  grass hill here. You know, it was short track as
• 50:46
  you can get. So that shut all those people up
• 50:50
  right. Then what happens is they go to
• 50:54
  Daytona and and we we will talk about this.
• 50:59
  You got Dale Junior back as a car owner and they have been
• 51:02
  begging him. They've been begging Dale
• 51:05
  Junior. Please come as a car owner.
• 51:09
  Then both the duels were Charlie door handle, the door handle
• 51:13
  photo finishes. For that reason, NASCAR is
• 51:19
  killing it right now. One OK, let's say this.
• 51:23
  I hate NASCAR. Well, you might hate it, but
• 51:25
  you're watching it and 1.8 million people just TuneIn on a
• 51:30
  friggin Thursday night. So that's what I meant yeah.
• 51:34
  And and let me say this. That is the Brennan Queen that
• 51:37
  won the cars Tour Championship. So, Charlie, I just think NASCAR
• 51:42
  is off to its no, the Dale Junior effect.
• 51:46
  That's a whole nother story. But I just depended myself on
• 51:49
  why I say NASCAR is off to its best start.
• 51:53
  I just gave you the the the receipts.
• 51:56
  And I, I think I remember seeing the graphic in the the data from
• 52:00
  last year too. Let's be real, even if you're
• 52:02
  somebody who's kind of down on NASCAR, NASCAR had some really
• 52:05
  bad weather luck if you remember, especially early in
• 52:08
  the in the season and Daytona. Now look, they've already moved
• 52:11
  the Daytona 500 up an hour to get away from that.
• 52:15
  But I mean, like if you have to start the Daytona 500 on a
• 52:17
  Monday and I feel like there was a bunch of them last year, just
• 52:20
  kind of crappy weather situations.
• 52:22
  I know they did the whole thing with the Clash, even remember
• 52:24
  they did on a on a Saturday, right, because there was really
• 52:28
  bad weather situations. That's that's something NASCAR
• 52:31
  can't control. But if they have some good
• 52:32
  weather luck also early in the season, they can get that ball
• 52:36
  rolling momentum wise. I, I remember when the when the
• 52:38
  ratings came out last year and, and correct me if I'm wrong,
• 52:42
  even if the ratings at the end ended up being either slightly
• 52:45
  above or kind of the same, NASCAR at least parroted or
• 52:49
  championed that as look, this is actually pretty good from where
• 52:51
  we started because we had such crap weather luck in the first
• 52:55
  whatever it was third of the season.
• 52:58
  Yeah, and I agree with you once again.
• 53:01
  Here's what's crazy in life. We have to get lucky every once
• 53:05
  in a while. So NASCAR says we're going to
• 53:07
  run the Clash at the Coliseum in California where there's great
• 53:10
  weather, right? And the weather was crap.
• 53:14
  It rained. So they say, OK, let's go where
• 53:17
  the weather is usually going to be junky, going to be 20-30
• 53:19
  degrees. They go to they go to Winston
• 53:23
  Salem, NC and the weather is perfect.
• 53:27
  I mean, it, it was winter weather.
• 53:29
  It was 40°. Everybody was cold.
• 53:31
  So Charlie, I agree with you and I'm glad you brought that up.
• 53:36
  You know, weather is everything. And here's why weather is
• 53:40
  everything because the fans get so damn mean that if it rains
• 53:46
  out, the fans are like, NASCAR made it rain.
• 53:49
  I hate NASCAR. It's like what?
• 53:53
  What? So yes, you're right, NASCAR
• 53:57
  needed that good weather at Bowman Gray and got great
• 54:00
  ratings for that. Got great ratings.
• 54:03
  So yeah, but but once again, that Dale Junior effect did did
• 54:08
  Dale Junior did that? Because when I go on the Kyle
• 54:11
  Petty Charity ride, you know, all the old fans saying to me,
• 54:15
  we're on this ride because we love Richard Petty and Kyle
• 54:18
  Petty. They don't hate NASCAR.
• 54:21
  You know what they say? We just don't watch it anymore
• 54:24
  because they're sad. These are 6575 year old people.
• 54:29
  They're sad that their guys are gone.
• 54:31
  You know, Rusty's gone, Jeff Gordon's gone.
• 54:34
  Because see, Dale on our senior, he introduced Jeff Gordon.
• 54:38
  So Gordon was part of the old group, you know what I mean?
• 54:41
  So I just really think that Dale Junior simply being a car owner
• 54:49
  and being so happy, but you know, they they did not know
• 54:54
  NASCAR did not know that Dale Junior was going to be on TV
• 54:58
  after Justin Agar made that race.
• 55:02
  So I'm going to go 5050 on this Charlie.
• 55:05
  I'm going to say I'm going to say that it didn't hurt having
• 55:10
  Dale Junior as a car owner. But where Dale Junior really
• 55:13
  showed up was after the race. Remember live on Channel 2 like
• 55:18
  rabbit ears that that wasn't? Was that on FS1 or was that on
• 55:23
  Channel 2? FS1 had the broadcast.
• 55:27
  OK, so still a lot of people got FS1, but my point is Charlie
• 55:32
  Dale Junior showed up after the race, after the whole night,
• 55:37
  right? I mean after that race, the
• 55:39
  first duel. So it's not like people are
• 55:42
  tuning in to see Dale Junior. They had to watch the race and
• 55:45
  they saw him afterwards. You know, that's kind of my,
• 55:49
  it's kind of my point. So he didn't hurt, but I don't
• 55:53
  think it was all Dale Junior. He didn't hurt.
• 55:56
  It did not hurt, but I don't think it was all Dale Junior.
• 56:00
  Yeah, I think and and you're talking about watching on the
• 56:03
  broadcast, but I feel like the storyline afterwards, cuz you
• 56:06
  know, the duels for example, Bubba wins the first one, OK.
• 56:10
  The second one, you had the controversy with Eric Jones.
• 56:12
  We already talked about that, but when you talk about just the
• 56:16
  the storytelling afterwards, that's where Dale Junior steals
• 56:20
  the show and the hugs with all Geyer and his great quote about
• 56:24
  his dad. That's where still Dale Junior
• 56:27
  still he's still running this sport.
• 56:29
  I know we're biased because we're partners with Dirty MO
• 56:32
  Media, but he also is able to, you know, through the Florence
• 56:36
  race back in whenever it was late fall to when they unveiled
• 56:40
  the Chris Stapleton car with the traveller whiskey, right?
• 56:44
  The fact that even the qualifying, I mean, it was
• 56:47
  probably good for NASCAR that all Geyer didn't qualify in on
• 56:50
  Wednesday because it gave people a huge reason to watch on the
• 56:54
  duels when they did get in. And let me say this, I just
• 57:00
  really feel this way. I got to get this out of my
• 57:01
  head. Bubba Wallace winning the twin
• 57:06
  150. See, there's so many people that
• 57:08
  don't like Bubba Wallace and and we all know why.
• 57:12
  But anyway, him winning Bubba Wallace winning makes people
• 57:17
  TuneIn because they're mad at him.
• 57:18
  They don't like him. See, it's, it's it's like social
• 57:21
  media. If you don't like me, why are
• 57:23
  you following me? See, when people don't like
• 57:26
  somebody, Charlie, they TuneIn. It's weird phenomenon.
• 57:30
  It's like Howard. Stern back in the day.
• 57:32
  Right, I don't like Denny Hamlin.
• 57:34
  I'm going to tune into this race hopefully wrecks out.
• 57:39
  It's it it's psychological one-on-one, right.
• 57:42
  OK, now I just wanted to say let's not gloss over bubble
• 57:46
  winning the first race because that you know that people don't
• 57:50
  like him. Now, Dale Junior, what I like
• 57:54
  what you said is Dale Junior comes across as his country old
• 57:58
  boy talks like this and everything, smart as a whip.
• 58:03
  His father, Dale Senior, sent him to military school.
• 58:07
  Dale Junior is so smart. You're right, somebody said
• 58:12
  after the race in the Media Center, they said, Dale Junior,
• 58:16
  how can you come back half year after this track kills your
• 58:19
  father? And Oh my God, that whole deal
• 58:24
  made the sport go through the roof because Dale Junior said,
• 58:28
  this track did not kill my father.
• 58:30
  And, and, and Dale Junior said, I find peace coming here.
• 58:35
  It makes me I want to be where my dad got killed.
• 58:37
  I want to be at the track that my dad loved.
• 58:41
  He said, I I'm at peace with Daytona Speedway.
• 58:44
  And if you remember, after senior got killed in the wreck,
• 58:48
  Junior came back and won. And remember that Pepsi July
• 58:50
  race with Mikey Waltrip? So many people wanted to hear
• 58:54
  that Junior, why do you like Daytona when it killed your
• 58:58
  daddy? And he answered it beautifully.
• 59:01
  What a great sound bite. I mean, I can't believe that our
• 59:05
  local station, Channel 2, I can't believe all.
• 59:08
  I mean that that's a human. That's a human drama quote.
• 59:13
  This Daytona killed my dad. But I find peace coming here
• 59:18
  'cause my dad, Dale Senior love this racetrack.
• 59:22
  And he said, and Dale Junior said, I know a lot of people
• 59:25
  don't grieve like that. Dale Junior's like usually
• 59:28
  wherever your loved one gets killed, you don't ever go there.
• 59:31
  Dale Junior's like, Nope, I'm going there because that's where
• 59:34
  my dad was and he loved Daytona. So Charlie, I agree with you.
• 59:39
  The Dale Junior effect in the media, everybody knows this.
• 59:43
  And Dale Junior's awesome. He's he's playing right along
• 59:46
  with it, you know? Yes, we.
• 59:49
  Yeah. One world.
• 59:50
  Go ahead, Charlie. Read that.
• 59:51
  One world, one goal he he mimics your takes as that whole comment
• 59:55
  by June June Bug with Kelly sitting right there was a
• 59:58
  lovely, eloquent, heartfelt comment.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, and and you know, one world, one goal, that's your
• 1:00:05
  call letters if you are a NASCAR fan, that you don't like NASCAR.
• 1:00:10
  Cuzdell senior got killed. Here's your opening to love it
• 1:00:13
  again because his son loves it. You, you know that if Dale
• 1:00:19
  Senior could talk from heaven right now, he'd say, come on,
• 1:00:23
  everybody, I love NASCAR. I was going for it.
• 1:00:26
  You know, I was trying to, you know, it was a bad, bad wreck.
• 1:00:30
  It was a bad situation. The wreck wasn't the problem.
• 1:00:33
  It was the angle. And we didn't, I feel my hand on
• 1:00:37
  the Bible right now. If we would have had those damn
• 1:00:40
  soft walls, whatever walls you want to call them, I think Dale
• 1:00:44
  Dale Senior would be living today.
• 1:00:46
  But but Dale senior did not die in vain because of his death.
• 1:00:51
  We've saved all these lives that safer barriers what they call
• 1:00:55
  it. I call it a softball because
• 1:00:57
  when you hit it, it's way softer.
• 1:01:00
  If that softball would have been there, Dale senior be living at
• 1:01:03
  this day. So yes, I agree, Charlie.
• 1:01:07
  Yes. And I think people should
• 1:01:09
  forgive NASCAR because, you know, Dale Junior has and he
• 1:01:16
  told you all. Yeah, that wreck.
• 1:01:19
  Let me see here. Hold on.
• 1:01:20
  We're switching gears, everybody.
• 1:01:23
  This is at the end of the race. Oh, man, they just wrecked.
• 1:01:26
  I think it was the white flag. Somebody turn somebody.
• 1:01:30
  Elio's having a bad Elio. Elio Castroneves is going to be
• 1:01:35
  like, Get Me Out of Daytona. He has wrecked everything.
• 1:01:38
  He he wrecked every time. And I feel back as I love Elio
• 1:01:42
  and I'm not picking on Elio because of my brother Mike.
• 1:01:45
  Let's get that straight. All I'm saying is when you
• 1:01:49
  haven't done something and you go to do it and you wreck
• 1:01:52
  everything, you know, Elio has wrecked everything he's been in.
• 1:01:55
  Not his fault. Great driver, I love him, great
• 1:01:59
  dancer. But I'm sure Ellie is going to
• 1:02:02
  be like tag in the back of the Daytona 500.
• 1:02:06
  He don't he don't want to wreck in the Daytona 500.
• 1:02:09
  He's already he he destroyed the ARCA car, he destroyed the Cup
• 1:02:13
  car and I'll put a front end on ass in on.
• 1:02:17
  So Elio is probably like Get Me Out of Daytona.
• 1:02:22
  And here's the worst part. This blew my mind when I heard
• 1:02:27
  it. Do you know since Elio took the
• 1:02:30
  worldwide provisional they aren't allowed for any money?
• 1:02:34
  Yeah. Elio could win the Daytona 500
• 1:02:38
  and he gets no money because he's because that's that's the
• 1:02:42
  deal. They said we'll give you the
• 1:02:44
  provisional. If you use it, you don't get any
• 1:02:47
  money. I hope Justin Marks and
• 1:02:50
  everybody at track house got some money because buddy, they
• 1:02:53
  are spending it and I don't know if it went the way they thought
• 1:02:57
  it would. Charlie, I think it's it's
• 1:03:00
  working opposite, I think I think Elio taking the
• 1:03:04
  provisional is actually pissed fans off and here's why.
• 1:03:08
  And drivers Oh that's you took the word.
• 1:03:11
  Tell me what the driver said, Charlie.
• 1:03:14
  Well, it was what I mean, Martin Truex.
• 1:03:16
  I think of the guys who were the most vocal was Truax.
• 1:03:19
  And obviously Truax gets in in qualifying, but he was the one.
• 1:03:22
  Didn't he say it was something? Was it, Was it slap in the face?
• 1:03:24
  Something like that? He said it was a slap in the
• 1:03:26
  face. Elio, you're right, Martin Truax
• 1:03:30
  was very bitter. He said this is a slap in the
• 1:03:33
  face of Jimmie Johnson, seven time NASCAR champion, and he
• 1:03:36
  don't get a provisional but a guy that was a world classer and
• 1:03:40
  that's what these drivers said. My point of view is this.
• 1:03:43
  I don't think, see, two months ago I was on this show and I
• 1:03:48
  said it don't bother me and it still don't bother me.
• 1:03:51
  But we thought that Elio coming in was going to put eyes on the
• 1:03:55
  sport. I think it's done the opposite.
• 1:03:58
  I think it's kind of pissed some people off.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah. So I love Elio.
• 1:04:04
  Love him. He's very nice to me.
• 1:04:06
  I raced with him in the SRX series.
• 1:04:11
  Great guy. He can't help it, but boy it is.
• 1:04:16
  He finished fifth, but he destroyed that damn car.
• 1:04:19
  Well, all right, Charlie. And we're so we we're doing all
• 1:04:24
  good stuff. Everyone's watching the Dale
• 1:04:27
  Junior effect. The races have been side by
• 1:04:31
  side. We talked about the Parker
• 1:04:34
  Kliegerman was just he was low. Charlie.
• 1:04:37
  I I think that's everything, buddy.
• 1:04:39
  And we're at one hour. Yeah, Yep, I'm with you.
• 1:04:41
  I was just going to say anything else because we're at 65
• 1:04:45
  minutes. It's been great.
• 1:04:46
  We've had what, 3800 people total watching?
• 1:04:50
  We got almost 500 watching right now.
• 1:04:52
  And thank you to Jags also. And then when we're done,
• 1:04:55
  obviously this year is YouTube, but when we're done, let's see
• 1:04:58
  how he's missing. Boom.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, right there. When we're done, I will quickly
• 1:05:02
  edit this and I'll put it on podcast for people as well.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah, and and remember, everybody just lives on YouTube.
• 1:05:09
  Charlie, thank you And. Thank you buddy.
• 1:05:12
  I just want to say this, everybody.
• 1:05:14
  We thought we would do this because there was so much news,
• 1:05:17
  right? Yeah, me and Charlie talked.
• 1:05:20
  We said we better get this off our mind right now because
• 1:05:24
  tomorrow's the big one. You know, the Daytona 500, hard
• 1:05:28
  to mix this news in with the Daytona 500.
• 1:05:31
  So good job, Charlie. Thank.
• 1:05:34
  Thank you, everybody. Thank you very much.
• 1:05:37
  All right, thank you all. Please comment like subscribe.
• 1:05:40
  Thank you Herm. Thank you Jags.
• 1:05:42
  Thank you everybody for watching.
• 1:05:44
  We'll see you tomorrow and we'll are we going to do, are we going
• 1:05:46
  to announce? Are we doing a live after
• 1:05:48
  Daytona? We got, hey, we got to remember
• 1:05:51
  what we learned. Watch this, everybody.
• 1:05:54
  I take this thing and I go everybody, man, this is awesome.
• 1:05:58
  And I'm sounds good. I think I'll, I'll be right here
• 1:06:01
  because I got the TV right there at Rusty's place.
• 1:06:04
  I had Rusty, didn't have ATV. Hey, does this sound a lot
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  better when I go like this? I mean, it sounds great.
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  How you doing? It's a good microphone.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah. All right, buddy, we'll see you,
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  everybody. We'll see you tomorrow after the
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  checkered flag at the Daytona 500.
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  See you later.