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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, and welcome to Thirsty for Gore. I, of course,
- 0:19Speaker 2: am your host, Milenko.
- 0:21Speaker 3: And I'm Alex.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. And today, we are continuing our
- 0:26Speaker 2: Chucky saga with the fourth installment of Runnywoo's... Chucky 4.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Bride of Chucky.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Bride of Chucky, dude. 1998's Bride of Chucky, dude.
- 0:42Speaker 2: 1998's Bride of Chucky.
- 0:43Speaker 3: 1990's Chucky. What do we think of 1990's Chucky?
- 0:49Speaker 2: I mean, most of it's been 90's.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Only the first one. Only the first one. Even though
- 0:53Speaker 3: in this one, there's a character who goes, actually, Alexis Arquette.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Yeah. Who is... Like, it's, I think, our first time
- 1:02Speaker 2: talking about Alexis on the podcast.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I think so. I think we've mentioned Alexis Arquette before.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about her in Pulp Fiction, and... No,
- 1:10Speaker 2: that's for.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Oh, she's in Pulp Fiction, right?
- 1:13Speaker 2: Yeah, she is, yeah. She's in the famous, uh... Did
- 1:17Speaker 2: I stutter scene?
- 1:21Speaker 3: And.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Right away, dude. Chucky's trying to glorify himself by being
- 1:26Speaker 2: in the same containment... The same universe as Freddy vs.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Jason.
- 1:32Speaker 2: And Mike Myers, dude.
- 1:35Speaker 3: And the chainsaw is Ash, obviously.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
- 1:39Speaker 3: It could be.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Chucky's... Trying to put himself among the greats. And you
- 1:44Speaker 2: know what? He succeeds because.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Because Ronnie Woo directed Freddy vs.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Jason, dude. Well, yeah, it's gotta be crossover, dude.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Or you could do combinations.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Chill out. Dig what? And we get this Lachlan McLaughlin
- 1:59Speaker 2: Canadian actor looking guy.
- 2:01Speaker 3: This definitely does have the feeling of like an American
- 2:06Speaker 3: movie shooting in Vancouver. And also the blue tone. This
- 2:12Speaker 3: movie matches exactly Freddy vs.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Jason. Yeah, and, you know, he's going through, like, the
- 2:20Speaker 2: special evidence locker that's reserved for supernatural serial killers.
- 2:25Speaker 3: All in the same place. Because they all happened in
- 2:28Speaker 3: the same place in Vancouver, dude.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Well, of course, dude. That's where we're shot. This movie has, like...
- 2:35Speaker 2: people delivering things to other people for money a lot it's.
- 2:39Speaker 3: The the entire movie is people delivering things to other places.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Officer bailey we see who is uh you know curiosity
- 2:48Speaker 2: kill the cat dude he almost caused an accident because
- 2:51Speaker 2: he's looking through uh the chucky remains um that tiffany
- 2:57Speaker 2: has paid him to bring. But we don't know any
- 2:59Speaker 2: of this yet.
- 3:00Speaker 3: We don't know any of this yet. Also, where the
- 3:01Speaker 3: fuck is Tiffany getting this money from? It seems like she's, like, just, like,
- 3:06Speaker 3: paying out so much money.
- 3:08Speaker 2: I think she's just, like, a practicing serial killer who just, like,
- 3:11Speaker 2: steals money. She's just stealing money. I think she's just
- 3:13Speaker 2: stealing money.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Also, every reaction Chucky gets in this
- 3:16Speaker 3: movie is, ugh.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Everyone's grossed out by Chucky.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Which I thought was really funny because I was like,
- 3:23Speaker 3: but what's happening? I think... I think it's the smell.
- 3:28Speaker 3: It's the smell.
- 3:30Speaker 2: We're supposed to read it as like, he's a lot more,
- 3:33Speaker 2: it's kind of like, you know, he's constantly in the movie,
- 3:38Speaker 2: a combination of plastic and viscera, right? Like he's like meat. Yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 2: He's already meat.
- 3:44Speaker 3: He's already meat. Yeah, for sure. And then she fucking
- 3:48Speaker 3: takes officer Bailey's throat and slashes it. And she's just,
- 3:52Speaker 3: I guess a serial killer as well.
- 3:54Speaker 2: At first I was like, I don't know if I
- 3:57Speaker 2: think she's age appropriate for Brad Dourif because I was like, whoa,
- 4:01Speaker 2: she looks.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Like way younger. But she was 40.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
- 4:07Speaker 3: So like relatively age appropriate.
- 4:09Speaker 2: She looks amazing.
- 4:10Speaker 3: He's only like, I think, eight years older than her.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever. Like, Chucky... He was young then, too, dude.
- 4:21Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
- 4:21Speaker 3: No, but 48 is... Because I always... For some reason,
- 4:26Speaker 3: I always link... I.
- 4:28Speaker 2: See her as this age permanently.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Of course. I see Brad Dourif as either really young,
- 4:35Speaker 3: like in... What's it called? One Flew the Cuckoo's Nest? Or, like, black,
- 4:40Speaker 3: jet black hair, long hair. Just always seemed older to me.
- 4:44Speaker 2: No, I mean, yeah. I think that's just because, like,
- 4:48Speaker 2: you know, the power of movies and seeing movies as kids. Yeah, totally. But,
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know, like, if she was... 1988 was 10 years ago.
- 4:56Speaker 2: If she's 40 here, she was 30 there.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Yeah, she's 30 then. Yeah, totally.
- 4:59Speaker 2: So, age-appropriate still for Charles Lee Ray. Yeah, absolutely.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Catherine Heigl in this movie.
- 5:06Speaker 2: We get one Catherine H. replaced with another dude. Catherine
- 5:10Speaker 2: Hicks replaced with Catherine Heigl.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Or you could do combination.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
- 5:15Speaker 3: John Ritter, dude. Dude.
- 5:17Speaker 2: And.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Living dead girl.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Dude, the fucking beginning music was amazing. They even credit
- 5:24Speaker 2: Rob Zombie as having the opening song. I loved it.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And yeah, seeing John Ritter's name and then seeing John Ritter, man,
- 5:34Speaker 2: it did something to me. I love John Ritter. I
- 5:39Speaker 2: love John Ritter. He's amazing. He's amazing. He's so good.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Problem child, dude.
- 5:42Speaker 3: And his son, dude, who was also in.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Freddy vs. Jason, dude.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Or you could do combination.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Canonically, this guy is his dad in Freddy vs.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Jason, dude. A few things. The movie credits her as
- 5:57Speaker 2: Alexis Arquette. Yeah. But she's playing a dude in this movie. Yes.
- 6:02Speaker 2: She's playing Damien, which we'll get to. We get an
- 6:04Speaker 2: and Brad Dourif as the voice of Chucky, dude. Of course, dude.
- 6:08Speaker 2: And opens up with all these dolls that she's going
- 6:11Speaker 2: to be mining the parts for. I... You know what
- 6:14Speaker 2: I loved about this movie?
- 6:16Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me.
- 6:17Speaker 2: What's great about the Chucky series is that it knows
- 6:21Speaker 2: what it is. It never pretends to be anything else. Yeah.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And every movie after the previous movie further dives into
- 6:30Speaker 2: the reality of Chucky. Yeah. So it's like, doesn't matter.
- 6:34Speaker 2: This happens. This is our explanation. That's all you get.
- 6:37Speaker 2: You just get their explanation. Yeah. And I think it
- 6:41Speaker 2: does it really well. I think like continuing it, Just,
- 6:45Speaker 2: I mean, the story never stops, really. And we get
- 6:49Speaker 2: another hour and 28 minute movie.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Yes, yes. I loved the dolls getting rebuilt from the dolls.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I also really liked... That's what I was going to say, sorry.
- 7:00Speaker 2: The dolls being rebuilt from dolls and then including the
- 7:03Speaker 2: Bride of Frankenstein reference. I mean, obviously the movie wants
- 7:10Speaker 2: to be ham-fisted with the references, right? And I think
- 7:13Speaker 2: it's not shying away from that. You know, it's not
- 7:16Speaker 2: pretending to not do that.
- 7:18Speaker 3: No, you're right. Something I don't like, I don't like
- 7:22Speaker 3: the look.
- 7:23Speaker 2: What about it?
- 7:25Speaker 3: Just the other ones have this kind of saturation to them.
- 7:31Speaker 3: And then like some of the saturation comes out into.
- 7:34Speaker 2: The world and a lot of blue in this. Where
- 7:37Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a little bit like... Too color corrected?
- 7:40Speaker 2: It's a little bit... It's just.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Like some of the new metal bothers me a little bit.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Some of the like... Oh, dude.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Not the soundtrack, I hope. Because I thought that was great.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Even the soundtrack.
- 7:49Speaker 3: I'm like, I like those songs. I'm just like, I
- 7:53Speaker 3: kind of miss a movie that's like, oh, it doesn't
- 7:56Speaker 3: have songs in it. It's got a score in it.
- 7:58Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 7:59Speaker 2: Well, but we've established that Chucky's never been about a score.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Chucky's about the Damballa chant and about... the background music. Yeah, totally.
- 8:08Speaker 3: But this isn't even background music.
- 8:10Speaker 2: It's like they had some, some of the score was good.
- 8:13Speaker 3: As, as I don't know if I like Chucky being like,
- 8:16Speaker 3: I'm actually a metal head.
- 8:17Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Whereas like, dude, I thought
- 8:20Speaker 2: that was cool.
- 8:22Speaker 3: I never, like for me, I don't really see it
- 8:25Speaker 3: vibing with the character. This feels very much like a
- 8:28Speaker 3: soft reboot to me.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Okay. Well, we can get, we can get to it
- 8:32Speaker 2: as we go, but, um, I, and I wouldn't disagree
- 8:35Speaker 2: with that, um, like assessment. I just, I thought it worked.
- 8:41Speaker 2: I also appreciate... I like the pivot.
- 8:43Speaker 3: I mean, I appreciate the pivot, too, because it's like,
- 8:45Speaker 3: he's really the main character now, and everything else is
- 8:48Speaker 3: a subplot. Like, these are two different movies put into
- 8:53Speaker 3: one that somehow kind of works... But mostly kind of doesn't.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Dude, her rebuilding Chucky and like sewing all of the parts.
- 9:03Speaker 3: And then him being like a regular stand-up doll as
- 9:07Speaker 3: opposed to like a floppy doll that changes faces when convenient.
- 9:12Speaker 2: If she had done this... Well, see, so Chucky's just
- 9:17Speaker 2: Chucky face in this. He's never... And I think canonically...
- 9:22Speaker 2: he's become part of the doll. She sews him back
- 9:26Speaker 2: together from the sliced pieces, dude. Yes. Sliced Chucky from
- 9:30Speaker 2: the third movie.
- 9:33Speaker 3: And also, you.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Notice.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Chucky's cool balding, first of all. Oh, dude, I see
- 9:40Speaker 2: all the way, dude. And also, we get a level of... Yeah,
- 9:41Speaker 2: sort of Chucky.
- 9:53Speaker 2: There is no, he's just Chucky. There's no, oh, I'm
- 9:57Speaker 2: a new doll. Yeah, he's not a good guy doll
- 9:59Speaker 2: in this. good guy is barely a thing in this
- 10:02Speaker 2: it's only a thing that references the other movies.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I also think that people are like because they know
- 10:07Speaker 3: what a good guy doll looks like i think.
- 10:10Speaker 2: So too i love the next scene when we open
- 10:15Speaker 2: up to john ritter's house and it looks like the
- 10:18Speaker 2: home alone house I mean, it's still Chicago, dude, so
- 10:22Speaker 2: it could be the whole one house.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Is there a Tating place in Chicago?
- 10:25Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I forget, like,
- 10:30Speaker 2: I didn't look up what the names of, like, the
- 10:33Speaker 2: places were, but it's presumably still Chicago. Unless Andy was
- 10:38Speaker 2: serving somewhere else, dude.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 10:41Speaker 2: But it's somewhere where they could easily drive to, like,
- 10:46Speaker 2: Niagara Falls.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:48Speaker 2: New Jersey.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. New York State, that area. So, I don't know. Like,
- 10:54Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 10:55Speaker 3: But David comes to John Ritter's house.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Written by Don Mancini, by the way.
- 11:00Speaker 3: And he goes, hey, I'm clearly gay, but pretending to
- 11:04Speaker 3: be straight.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because they made it like he was
- 11:08Speaker 2: clearly gay, but he didn't set anything off for me.
- 11:14Speaker 2: I was like, wait. Is he supposed to care?
- 11:20Speaker 3: Which is, like, strange, because it seems like... I don't know,
- 11:24Speaker 3: is this guy, this handsome guy, Jesse, supposed to be, like,
- 11:28Speaker 3: a jockey? I like the fact that they kind of
- 11:31Speaker 3: took away some of.
- 11:32Speaker 2: The, like....
- 11:36Speaker 3: I don't know, like... Ambiguity? Not ambiguity, but, like, some
- 11:40Speaker 3: of the, like, tropes of, like, horror movies is, like, oh,
- 11:44Speaker 3: there's a jock, and if there's a gay guy, he's, like,
- 11:47Speaker 3: you know, harassed or something. Whereas, like, this gay guy is, like,
- 11:52Speaker 3: friends with these two people.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's... I feel like it's a testament to
- 11:57Speaker 2: the fact that I didn't even know that he was
- 12:00Speaker 2: gay to how much gayer society's gotten. But I think, like,
- 12:05Speaker 2: we're sort of seeing, like, I mean, Don Mancini's gay, right?
- 12:08Speaker 3: I think so.
- 12:09Speaker 2: And I think he just, like, just wrote in a
- 12:12Speaker 2: normal gay character. He just happens to be gay. And
- 12:15Speaker 2: the reason that, you know, the only plot use of
- 12:18Speaker 2: him being gay is the fact that he's helping his
- 12:21Speaker 2: friend out so she can go on a date with
- 12:23Speaker 2: the other guy who's not gay. And Katherine Heigl comes down,
- 12:27Speaker 2: and it's like, whoa, dude, like, Katherine Heigl. I remember
- 12:31Speaker 2: when she was in Star Trek. Man, when....
- 12:35Speaker 3: Fucking John Ritter is like interrogating this dude. He's like,
- 12:39Speaker 3: so what are you going to college for? Theater arts. Oh,
- 12:43Speaker 3: on a hockey scholarship?
- 12:45Speaker 2: Actually, figure skating. And I was like, oh my God,
- 12:49Speaker 2: this is figure skaters taking her out on the date.
- 12:51Speaker 2: We get the exposition drop that he's her uncle and
- 12:55Speaker 2: her parents are dead. And he's taking care of her
- 12:58Speaker 2: because her parents are dead. And so he's being kind
- 13:00Speaker 2: of like an overbearing guy. parental guardian-type figure.
- 13:04Speaker 3: But it's worse than overbearing, because she goes like, my
- 13:09Speaker 3: parents liked all my friends.
- 13:11Speaker 2: He's controlling.
- 13:12Speaker 3: And it's like, ugh.
- 13:14Speaker 2: His frosted tips, dude. And John Ritter's like, don't you
- 13:18Speaker 2: want to give her something? To show the audience, I guess,
- 13:21Speaker 2: the dramatic irony that he knows that the kid is gay...
- 13:25Speaker 2: and uh so he's not buying their story yeah and
- 13:28Speaker 2: he has one of his dogs because he's the police
- 13:31Speaker 2: chief dude he has one of his dogs follow him
- 13:34Speaker 2: needle nose he follows them uh in the car and
- 13:38Speaker 2: we get the reveal of jesse our classic bonnie and
- 13:42Speaker 2: clyde duo dude of jesse and jade yeah who are
- 13:46Speaker 2: kind of like our like side main characters now like
- 13:50Speaker 2: this role of like victim has become like The third
- 13:54Speaker 2: movie did a lot of work to, like, be like, okay,
- 13:58Speaker 2: the rest of the movies are gonna be now Chucky's
- 14:00Speaker 2: the main character and some other people. Yeah.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Like, it's like Chucky's adventure trying to get a new body.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:10Speaker 2: And Needlenose, Needlenose, Needledick pulls him over and he's got
- 14:14Speaker 2: the fucking smuggest eyes in the world. Like, his, you know, like, smizing?
- 14:18Speaker 2: His eyes are, like, sarcastic the whole time. Like, he's just, like,
- 14:23Speaker 2: squinting contempt at them it's amazing dude.
- 14:28Speaker 3: And then once a day Catherine Heigl is in the
- 14:31Speaker 3: car with with David being like oh he you really
- 14:39Speaker 3: made an impression on Warren oh I'm so over guys
- 14:43Speaker 3: in uniform.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah man this Joko looking guy the needle
- 14:51Speaker 2: nose yeah yeah He pulls them over.
- 14:55Speaker 3: He pulls them over. He, like, threatens them and stuff.
- 14:57Speaker 3: And then we cut back to... I just.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I don't know how I felt about the voodoo for dummies. Like,
- 15:04Speaker 2: it just, like... Why?
- 15:06Speaker 3: Because it felt a little bit like... Like, it's funny,
- 15:10Speaker 3: but it's also like, she's chanting the real chants from
- 15:14Speaker 3: the thing. And then the awake stuff, I hate awake.
- 15:17Speaker 3: I hated that.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Well, awake, it's a different incantation because she's waking him up.
- 15:22Speaker 2: He's not transferring into a body. That's fine.
- 15:25Speaker 3: But also, I'm like, you can just get this for dummies.
- 15:30Speaker 3: It wasn't like a special guy he got it from,
- 15:32Speaker 3: you know?
- 15:33Speaker 2: I mean, they use it as a gag. Dude, this
- 15:35Speaker 2: scene where she's doing the chant, i love i love
- 15:39Speaker 2: her doing the chant and that's where we get the
- 15:41Speaker 2: voice her voice is so good and she looks incredible
- 15:45Speaker 2: yeah and like the way awake awake awake i love
- 15:48Speaker 2: like what's this technique that's used where it kind of
- 15:51Speaker 2: like simultaneously like kind of zooms in and zooms out
- 15:55Speaker 2: at the same time.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Oh that's uh when when you dolly in and zoom
- 16:00Speaker 3: out and it creates this weird.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Effect it looked so good it And she's trying to
- 16:06Speaker 2: wake him up. She's drawn a pentagram, dude. I like
- 16:10Speaker 2: the voodoo for dummies stuff. But to me, that stuff
- 16:13Speaker 2: all worked. I was very charmed by it.
- 16:16Speaker 3: It's very easy to be like, she knows it through this.
- 16:19Speaker 2: But he could have just taught her. You know what
- 16:21Speaker 2: I mean? I know, I know. But they could have
- 16:24Speaker 2: shown a picture of her with John from the first
- 16:28Speaker 2: movie and him, maybe, like, doing a voodoo chant together
- 16:32Speaker 2: or something. It could have been that if she's his
- 16:35Speaker 2: ex-girlfriend or whatever, or his like former lover. Yeah. I
- 16:38Speaker 2: don't know. I get it. But like, I also just,
- 16:41Speaker 2: it's a gag. I don't know. It is.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:43Speaker 2: You're right. You're right. It's funny. And like, it's, it
- 16:46Speaker 2: passes so fast that, uh, and the way they're shooting
- 16:50Speaker 2: her from like a little bit below and how she's like,
- 16:53Speaker 2: there's like thunder and lightning going in the, in the background.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Cause of course the Dembela clouds have arrived, dude. And
- 17:00Speaker 2: this is where we get our first pronunciation of Damballa.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Damballa, yeah.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Because I think she was just reading it.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:09Speaker 2: And it is spelled Damballa.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Damballa, yeah.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Or Damballa. Damballa? I don't know. Anyway, doesn't matter. Chucky's
- 17:15Speaker 2: not alive. Awake, awake, and it doesn't work.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Alexis Arquette knocks at the door.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes some time. And, yeah, and we get
- 17:22Speaker 2: introduced to, like, a very Marilyn Manson type character. She's playing, like, Damien,
- 17:29Speaker 2: who's the new, I guess, like, cocked boyfriend.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Well, like, it feels like she was always going to
- 17:35Speaker 3: kill him or that she brought him over so that she's, like,
- 17:38Speaker 3: it seems like she's, like, training serial killers, too.
- 17:41Speaker 2: She's trying to, yeah, she wants to find someone who's, like, worthy. Well,
- 17:46Speaker 2: she needs a serial killer because that's who she was
- 17:49Speaker 2: in love with.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Yeah, she's, like, creating Charles Lee Ray with another person. And, like,
- 17:58Speaker 3: she doesn't... Damien doesn't actually kill anybody.
- 18:00Speaker 2: He's just a fake fucking, like... Mush on his face.
- 18:10Speaker 2: But she recognizes the nail polish, dude.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Which was hilarious.
- 18:14Speaker 2: She's like, you didn't fucking do this. You didn't kill anyone.
- 18:18Speaker 3: And I love when she's, like, walking away. She gets
- 18:20Speaker 3: really mad. She notices that she walked where the doll
- 18:23Speaker 3: was and didn't see it. And then she, like, I
- 18:27Speaker 3: like how visually they, like, focus in on her face
- 18:31Speaker 3: in a way that, like, presents to the world, like,
- 18:36Speaker 3: she knows what's happening. She knows he's alive and she
- 18:39Speaker 3: knows he's going to kill him. She knows the lore, too.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Of course. And then she, like... When we see, like,
- 18:47Speaker 2: the sand that has moved from the pentagram, and she
- 18:50Speaker 2: makes the realization, it's amazing, dude.
- 18:52Speaker 3: And then she tells Alexis Arquette to go to the
- 18:54Speaker 3: floor and, like, look for her lipstick. And then the
- 18:57Speaker 3: spider fall marves on her face.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Oh, man. When Tiffany picks up the spider, I was like,
- 19:09Speaker 2: I don't know. If I was acting in this movie,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I could do that.
- 19:13Speaker 3: I don't think I could do it.
- 19:14Speaker 2: I don't know if I could touch that fucking tarantula.
- 19:16Speaker 2: She probably got training. She probably got training and felt
- 19:19Speaker 2: more comfortable about it. Oh, my God.
- 19:22Speaker 3: Her reaction is so real. I would be like.
- 19:27Speaker 2: And the CGI spider that falls on Alexis's face. Is it? Yeah. Yeah.
- 19:33Speaker 2: But it's not when it's on top of her face. No, no,
- 19:35Speaker 2: I know that. Marv, dude.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Marv just had to pretend to scream.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Oh, my God. But it's her pet spider. It's Tiffany's.
- 19:50Speaker 2: pet spider yeah i immediately bought tiffany as part of
- 19:55Speaker 2: the lore like yes 100 it feels like so natural
- 20:00Speaker 2: it works 100 it works 100 and even the the
- 20:05Speaker 2: kind of when when alexis is like oh look We're
- 20:10Speaker 2: in the room, close together. Do you know what the
- 20:12Speaker 2: French call an orgasm? Le petit mortet. The little death.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Let's die a little. Le petit mortet. And Alexis is
- 20:22Speaker 2: so Marilyn Manson.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:25Speaker 2: I think, like, that's kind of what they were going
- 20:27Speaker 2: for with this look. Absolutely, yeah. The full-body tribal tattoos, dude.
- 20:33Speaker 2: It's amazing. And she's, like, disgusted by Damien. She doesn't
- 20:36Speaker 2: want to have anything to do. She wants Chucky, dude.
- 20:42Speaker 2: She wants Chucky.
- 20:43Speaker 3: But then Alexis Arquette says he's so 80s. Yeah. And
- 20:47Speaker 3: it's like, but he's kind of more 90s than he
- 20:51Speaker 3: is 80s.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Well. Hi, I'm Chucky. Alexis isn't counting the sequels, dude.
- 20:59Speaker 2: She only saw the first one. She only saw the
- 21:02Speaker 2: first one. Dude, Chucky's like photorealistic. I keep saying that.
- 21:07Speaker 2: I don't even know what, like, bio-realistic, like, eyes.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Yeah, his eyeballs are amazing.
- 21:13Speaker 2: And his mouth.
- 21:14Speaker 3: I love the eyeballs.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Did you notice how, in the beginning, when Tiffany is
- 21:18Speaker 2: putting in the eyeballs, she puts it in the wrong way?
- 21:21Speaker 2: She puts it in for the camera.
- 21:22Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And Chucky just, like, immediately, like, looks aware and sentient
- 21:30Speaker 2: all the time. All the time.
- 21:31Speaker 3: It's probably, it's because of the eyes. The eyes make
- 21:33Speaker 3: it seem. Because he's like this. He's like this, I'm
- 21:37Speaker 3: on a podcast and the audience can't see me.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you do.
- 21:44Speaker 3: And then she's like, what's her name? Tiffany is like,
- 21:48Speaker 3: want to play? And obviously Alexis is like, yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 2: And we get continuation of like fucking kinky Chucky lore, dude.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Of like bondage.
- 21:59Speaker 3: Bondage tying people up.
- 22:00Speaker 2: She ties Alexis to the bed with the fucking handcuffs.
- 22:04Speaker 2: And she's like, we're going to have a little menage
- 22:06Speaker 2: a trois. What does that mean?
- 22:08Speaker 3: I thought you understood French.
- 22:11Speaker 2: I love it. She's going down Alexis's body and bites
- 22:15Speaker 2: on the side of the obliques. It's really funny. And yeah,
- 22:22Speaker 2: I guess like something kinky is going to happen and
- 22:24Speaker 2: Chucky's going to get cocked.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Chucky is getting cocked.
- 22:27Speaker 2: And then.
- 22:28Speaker 3: There's some piss play introduced when Alexis is like, this
- 22:32Speaker 3: isn't one of those schmucky dolls that pees.
- 22:34Speaker 2: It's like, I wouldn't talk that way about Chucky. I
- 22:42Speaker 2: wouldn't talk that way about Chucky. And what does Alexis
- 22:46Speaker 2: say that makes Chucky twist his head around? Let me
- 22:52Speaker 2: just give a look. Also Tiffany's tattoo that she has
- 23:02Speaker 2: of a heart with like a stab in the heart
- 23:05Speaker 2: and it says Chucky. Yeah. It's amazing, dude. This hot
- 23:10Speaker 2: burlesque outfit that she's wearing.
- 23:12Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so hot in this.
- 23:14Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 23:15Speaker 3: And.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Damien says he ain't big enough to take care of
- 23:22Speaker 3: a woman like you. And that's when Chucky turns around.
- 23:25Speaker 2: It ain't about... It's the motion of the ocean, dude.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the motion of the ocean meme.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Chucky's, you know, he may not be packing. Well, he's
- 23:36Speaker 2: got the pussy from the previous movies. It ain't the
- 23:39Speaker 2: size that counts, asshole.
- 23:41Speaker 3: It's what you do with it.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, the ripped out lip ring. Like, also the 90s...
- 23:47Speaker 2: was so contemptuous of lip rings, nipple rings, facial piercings.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Any piercing beyond an earring. If you have a facial
- 23:56Speaker 2: piercing in.
- 23:56Speaker 3: It's getting ripped out.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Always.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Always.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Has to get ripped out. Yeah. Because that's what conservatives
- 24:02Speaker 2: always wanted to see happen. Yeah. And remember that movie...
- 24:05Speaker 2: What was that movie called? My Life as a House
- 24:08Speaker 2: or something? Where Kevin Kline builds a house, and they
- 24:11Speaker 2: made it in response to American Beauty.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Life as a house, yeah.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Was it? And then, I think, was it Kevin Kline?
- 24:17Speaker 2: He's like, he wants to rip earrings or face rings
- 24:23Speaker 2: out of Hayden Christensen's nose.
- 24:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:26Speaker 2: He's like, I've got a hammer that I could pull
- 24:29Speaker 2: those things out of. Yeah.
- 24:31Speaker 3: I mean, but that was in a mode of, like,
- 24:34Speaker 3: I'm being a cute older dad.
- 24:36Speaker 2: You know what I mean? No, it wasn't. He was fucking,
- 24:38Speaker 2: he was, he was queer phobic, dude. He was queer
- 24:41Speaker 2: bashing his gay child. Um, and then Tiffany sees that
- 24:47Speaker 2: Chucky's alive, dude. And he's sitting on Damien's face.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Just choking him.
- 24:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Damien's dying as, uh, as Chucky, uh, is like, well,
- 24:59Speaker 2: what's this conversation? Break it down for me, dude.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a... How's it going, Supernatural doll? Actually,
- 25:08Speaker 3: to tell you the truth, I've been kind of.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I'm losing the thread on the... On the voice?
- 25:14Speaker 3: On the voice.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Come on, dude. This was my favorite Chucky balding, dude.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Yes.
- 25:20Speaker 2: In terms of look, Chucky looks really cool. I love
- 25:24Speaker 2: that he's touching her boobie when she picks him up. Yeah,
- 25:26Speaker 2: touching the boobie is always hilarious.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, it's kind of like a back and forth of, like,
- 25:33Speaker 3: catching up. Like, I only kill people. I haven't had
- 25:37Speaker 3: sex with people in a long time. I only sleep
- 25:39Speaker 3: with somebody I love. Tiff, you look great. I love
- 25:43Speaker 3: the thing.
- 25:43Speaker 2: I thought you were going to let yourself go. Misogynistic Chucky, dude. Yeah.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Not that he wouldn't be, but.
- 25:49Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's a fucking murderer, dude. And, like, constantly, like,
- 25:53Speaker 3: harping on the weight or... Of how people look, how
- 25:58Speaker 3: women look in the movie. Yeah.
- 25:59Speaker 2: But it's it's the most we've gotten that though it's
- 26:02Speaker 2: the most.
- 26:03Speaker 3: We have for sure we have he has a change
- 26:05Speaker 3: too he hasn't got a change of heart dude he
- 26:08Speaker 3: has to go through an arc of.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Course of course well and he doesn't he's a fucking
- 26:13Speaker 2: dick always but we cut back to needle dick fucking
- 26:18Speaker 2: giving a breathalyzer to david uh jesse and jade Because
- 26:23Speaker 2: he's a needle dick, dude, and he's... Oh, and he
- 26:25Speaker 2: calls him Boogie Nights.
- 26:27Speaker 3: He calls Jesse Boogie Nights, which I laughed so much.
- 26:32Speaker 3: It seemed like somebody on set noticed the thing.
- 26:36Speaker 2: He was wearing. It was like.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 26:39Speaker 2: It was one of those BCPAs, dude. Totally.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Yeah, so... I was going to call him Uncle Jesse. No,
- 26:50Speaker 3: John Ritter comes and.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 26:55Speaker 3: When he's like, when Jesse is like, you fuck.
- 26:59Speaker 2: He's like, not her. Not tonight. I loved that line.
- 27:03Speaker 2: That was great. He played it? He did.
- 27:06Speaker 3: It's such a dick.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Oh, I got you. That's how he got cast for
- 27:11Speaker 2: Eight Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter. Yeah, totally. He
- 27:14Speaker 2: was the father of a daughter here. But my daughter
- 27:19Speaker 2: hasn't born. No. No.
- 27:22Speaker 3: You have one more chance.
- 27:25Speaker 2: One more chance, dude.
- 27:26Speaker 3: I'm the police chief's sport. I can do whatever I want.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Exposition dump?
- 27:30Speaker 2: Exposition dump? Yeah. Man, John Ritter was such a good actor.
- 27:38Speaker 2: I think he never got a chance to flex his
- 27:43Speaker 2: acting muscle the way he should have. He was always
- 27:45Speaker 2: casting random shit like this. Come and knock on our door.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Come and knock on our door. We've been waiting for you.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Hers and hers and his three's company too.
- 27:58Speaker 2: He's been in some good stuff.
- 27:59Speaker 3: He was in Sling Blade.
- 28:03Speaker 2: You know Sling Blade. I mean, he was in Problem Child, dude.
- 28:07Speaker 2: His best movie was Problem Child, let's be real.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Or Bad Santa.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Wait, he's in that?
- 28:13Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays the boss. He plays the dickless loser boss.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Loser boss. Swedish meatballs. Not the only retcon in this movie.
- 28:24Speaker 2: You know what?
- 28:26Speaker 3: I think that was the most egregious part.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Why? What's your problem with this movie?
- 28:32Speaker 3: The retcon of like, I was wearing a medallion. That
- 28:36Speaker 3: was the thing. The amulet, dude. It's just like, oh
- 28:38Speaker 3: my god, dude.
- 28:39Speaker 2: I love the amulet. The fucking pasted on amulet of
- 28:42Speaker 2: the old Charles Lee Ray photo. His name is Charles
- 28:46Speaker 2: Lee Ray.
- 28:48Speaker 3: No mention of an amulet in three movies. Get fucked, dude.
- 28:53Speaker 3: That's why it felt like a... It felt soft reboot.
- 28:58Speaker 3: It was a soft reboot. Well, we've already established that.
- 29:00Speaker 2: This is the beginning of a new series. That's true.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Why are you so mad about it?
- 29:06Speaker 3: Because I felt like the first three did a really
- 29:11Speaker 3: good job at.
- 29:15Speaker 2: If this movie didn't pivot the way that it did...
- 29:18Speaker 2: You would have been mad about that. If it kept
- 29:23Speaker 2: doing what parts two and three were doing, I don't
- 29:27Speaker 2: think you would have been happy.
- 29:28Speaker 3: I don't disagree. I just think that if I were
- 29:34Speaker 3: to choose between Pride of Chucky and Alien Resurrection, I
- 29:37Speaker 3: would choose Alien Resurrection every time.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Are you going to choose to talk about the split
- 29:42Speaker 2: dioptera in this scene, dude?
- 29:43Speaker 3: Dude, the split dioptera, thank you for bringing it up.
- 29:46Speaker 3: One of the best modes of filmmaking is split dioptera.
- 29:50Speaker 2: I agree, dude.
- 29:51Speaker 3: I think they do it really well in this.
- 29:53Speaker 2: They do. They do a great job.
- 29:54Speaker 3: It's not even like a reference to anything.
- 29:56Speaker 2: No, it's just... Because.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Most references have the out of focus in between.
- 30:01Speaker 2: Yes.
- 30:01Speaker 3: This was very nicely done. This was just immediate, yeah.
- 30:05Speaker 2: It tickles, Chucky.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 30:08Speaker 2: You're ticklish.
- 30:09Speaker 3: And then, Sorry, go ahead.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Sorry, did she have this locked playpen ready? I guess
- 30:17Speaker 2: she's into kinky stuff, dude. She's got a little personal
- 30:21Speaker 2: dungeon in her trailer. Yeah, totally.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, but also I think that that's a
- 30:27Speaker 3: reference to her wanting a kid with him.
- 30:31Speaker 2: And Kinky Chucky.
- 30:31Speaker 3: And Kinky Chucky, totally. And the interesting thing about this dynamic.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Is how much.
- 30:39Speaker 3: she's devastated by the fact that he's such a piece
- 30:42Speaker 3: of shit. Like she almost fetishizes him in a way
- 30:46Speaker 3: that's like, Oh, like, Well.
- 30:48Speaker 2: She romanticizes him. Yeah, because she's.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Been looking for him for 10 years. She kind of
- 30:54Speaker 3: traps him in this toxic... It's kind of like a
- 30:57Speaker 3: toxic dynamic because it's like, he's a murderer, she's a murderer. Fine,
- 31:00Speaker 3: they're on the same level.
- 31:01Speaker 2: In that way.
- 31:02Speaker 3: But him being like, I thought you were going to
- 31:05Speaker 3: get fat. And her being like, I want to get married.
- 31:09Speaker 3: It's like.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Well, we get the lore drop. You have to talk
- 31:13Speaker 2: about the other tries the tooth dude with the ring.
- 31:16Speaker 2: The reason she gets upset and puts him And locks
- 31:18Speaker 2: him in the playpen is because she found the ring
- 31:22Speaker 2: on the mantle that he stole from someone that he killed.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:25Speaker 2: And it's worth five to six grand. And she thought
- 31:28Speaker 2: it was an engagement ring. Yeah. And that was the
- 31:30Speaker 2: last thing that she had of him. So I think
- 31:33Speaker 2: her romanticizing him makes a lot of sense. Yeah, absolutely.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Because he was left dead with this promise of like
- 31:40Speaker 2: she was going to get married. Yeah.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Something that was changed versus something... Where he's an actual
- 31:47Speaker 3: piece of shit. And now that she's interacting with him
- 31:50Speaker 3: in a way that's much more current, it's like, oh, no,
- 31:54Speaker 3: you're a piece of shit. And I'm going to do payback.
- 31:58Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 31:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:00Speaker 2: And she locks him up in this playpen that she
- 32:03Speaker 2: was also using as fetish play, cock play for Damien.
- 32:07Speaker 2: And then she's sleeping in the bed next to Damien.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Who looks like a dead Marilyn Manson. Wait, did you
- 32:13Speaker 2: say that she's sleeping next to the fucking corpse that's
- 32:17Speaker 2: still hanging up to the bed? You said that.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Jesse, we find out that Jesse is actually living in
- 32:24Speaker 3: the same trailer park that... Dude, his body looks insane. Yeah,
- 32:30Speaker 3: it looks great. Insane.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Like, you know how fucking hard that is? His sides,
- 32:36Speaker 2: those things?
- 32:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:38Speaker 2: God damn. This guy could do, like, Those things where
- 32:42Speaker 2: he holds himself on the side of a bar straight out,
- 32:45Speaker 2: for sure. It looks like it.
- 32:48Speaker 3: It looks like it, for sure. And he's washing.
- 32:52Speaker 2: A car. A car, yeah. He's washing his car.
- 32:54Speaker 3: This I really liked. I liked this connection. They know
- 32:58Speaker 3: each other.
- 33:00Speaker 2: It's like.
- 33:01Speaker 3: This feels like it continues Chucky lore and Chucky structure.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Because it makes it pragmatic, dude.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Because it makes it really like the storytelling really easy.
- 33:08Speaker 3: It's like, oh, we got introduced to these two characters
- 33:11Speaker 3: separately and now they've converged in a way that makes
- 33:16Speaker 3: total sense of how they know each other. And I love.
- 33:21Speaker 2: He's from the wrong side of the tracks, dude. He's also,
- 33:23Speaker 2: you know, he lives in the trailer park where Tiff lives.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:27Speaker 2: And she asks him to move this hope chest that
- 33:30Speaker 2: she has.
- 33:31Speaker 3: With this dead body.
- 33:32Speaker 2: But there's a dead body in it. And he's like, oh,
- 33:36Speaker 2: what you got? And it looks actually like he's lifting.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Like real heavy.
- 33:39Speaker 2: It looks like he's actually lifting something that heavy.
- 33:42Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And it's great. It's hilarious. Her being this person,
- 33:47Speaker 3: I don't know if I could... If I was this dude,
- 33:51Speaker 3: I don't know if I could handle it.
- 33:52Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like, if she was.
- 33:54Speaker 3: If somebody this hot.
- 33:54Speaker 2: If she was offering herself to... Yeah, well, just, like.
- 33:57Speaker 3: If this hot 40-year-old woman... Yeah, well, she's, like, flirting
- 34:00Speaker 3: all the time with everybody. And it just, like, feels like.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Like.
- 34:06Speaker 2: She's very, like, femme fatale coded. Totally. Totally. I loved it, dude.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I mean, and yeah, I
- 34:12Speaker 2: think it would be very difficult to resist, of course.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Of course.
- 34:17Speaker 2: And.
- 34:17Speaker 3: Timothy!
- 34:17Speaker 2: Where the fuck are you? Oh, uh... You got company?
- 34:21Speaker 2: I'm taking care of a child, actually. He's a foul-mouthed
- 34:25Speaker 2: piece of shit. Foul-mouthed little fucker. Even this, like, him
- 34:30Speaker 2: in the, like, tank top, and, like, just, like, standing
- 34:34Speaker 2: with her, and she's like, it's so erotic. Like, he's like,
- 34:37Speaker 2: I'm seeing someone now, ma'am.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean, like, this is cool, too,
- 34:43Speaker 3: because they set up her being like.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Treat her right.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Uh yeah yeah and my mom my mother always used
- 34:52Speaker 3: to say if you're if i'm working on a hot
- 34:54Speaker 3: stove making food.
- 34:57Speaker 2: He should be able to do the dishes you know.
- 34:59Speaker 3: And i i think that that's very cute i think
- 35:03Speaker 3: that's like very very nicely done.
- 35:05Speaker 2: I agree yeah i think because it adds like it
- 35:08Speaker 2: makes what happens eventually very realistic and it has a
- 35:12Speaker 2: lot of motion to the story because it's like you know,
- 35:15Speaker 2: it's two love stories. It's like one bad one, one
- 35:18Speaker 2: good one, you know, like we get the parallels, which
- 35:22Speaker 2: is nice. And like, because of like the genre and
- 35:25Speaker 2: story pivot, like, or further pivoting into kind of like ridiculousness.
- 35:30Speaker 2: And if we're going to be adding a bride, like
- 35:32Speaker 2: why not make it like Bonnie and Clyde slash bride
- 35:36Speaker 2: of Frankenstein? There's a lot of like differing ways of
- 35:39Speaker 2: like exploring themes of like kind of, Frankenstein's monsters romance
- 35:45Speaker 2: and like the idea of like can a monster love
- 35:49Speaker 2: and you know like all of this stuff plus like
- 35:51Speaker 2: just like the ridiculousness and silliness of Chucky I love
- 35:54Speaker 2: also that we can see the like exposed metal titanium
- 35:59Speaker 2: skull of Chucky as he's like spelling into a speaking
- 36:05Speaker 2: spell how do you spell woman and he's like B-I-T-C-H
- 36:09Speaker 2: curse all women and Um, hashtag not all women, Chucky. Uh,
- 36:14Speaker 2: but he doesn't think that. And he wrote Tiffany, kill
- 36:18Speaker 2: Tiffany slow in block letters.
- 36:21Speaker 3: What's hilarious is Tiffany buying, going out, buying this thousands
- 36:26Speaker 3: of dollars doll.
- 36:30Speaker 2: This like perfectly made doll. Bride.
- 36:33Speaker 3: Animatronic bride.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Yeah, like, extremely exquisitely, but also so weird looking. So
- 36:42Speaker 2: weird looking. Like, pre, when she's pre-Tiffanized, she, like, looks
- 36:48Speaker 2: so weird, dude. Yeah, it's very strange. She kind of
- 36:52Speaker 2: looks like, I don't know, like a plastic Anna or something.
- 36:59Speaker 2: It's weird. It's so, like, uncanny.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing in comparison to the previous trilogy
- 37:06Speaker 3: versus the next trilogy.
- 37:08Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on. I want to say one
- 37:10Speaker 2: more thing. The doll that she buys also has perfect, like,
- 37:16Speaker 2: Chucky Mechanic's face. Yeah, 100%. And, like, is made in
- 37:20Speaker 2: the style of a Chuckified Good Guy doll. Yeah, 100%.
- 37:24Speaker 2: But as, like, a wife. Yeah, and way more realistic.
- 37:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she doesn't have, like, the, like, physical teeth
- 37:33Speaker 2: with the, like, digestive, like, system, the tongue. She has, like,
- 37:38Speaker 2: the plastic mouth, but there is a hole where that
- 37:42Speaker 2: is going to be.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 2: And then eventually she does have that.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Yes, 100%. Chucky rips the ring off because she puts
- 37:55Speaker 3: the ring on the, like, doll's necklace. And we see
- 38:02Speaker 3: Tiffany in a bathtub watching TV with a cop that's like...
- 38:06Speaker 3: She's watching the news, dude.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Bailey. She saw Curious Cat Bailey get killed and also
- 38:11Speaker 2: Damien get killed. And it shows a Marilyn Manson picture
- 38:14Speaker 2: and it shows a Brian Warner picture, dude.
- 38:16Speaker 3: Yeah. It's totally a Brian Warner picture. It must be
- 38:18Speaker 3: a reference.
- 38:19Speaker 2: It's gotta be, because Brian Warner... Because he looks like that, right?
- 38:23Speaker 2: He does. He looked... Previous Marilyn Manson was... Well, he
- 38:27Speaker 2: kind of looks a little bit like the kid from
- 38:30Speaker 2: The Wonder Years, the nerd kid from The Wonder Years.
- 38:33Speaker 2: And there was a fucking myth, along with the blowjob myth,
- 38:40Speaker 2: a lesser-known Marilyn Manson myth, was that Wonder Years' kid
- 38:44Speaker 2: was Marilyn Manson, but that's not true. What? Yeah, yeah,
- 38:48Speaker 2: people used to say that.
- 38:49Speaker 3: No, he did get a blowjob, dude.
- 38:52Speaker 2: For sure, 100%. He blowjobbed himself, for sure. Yeah, he definitely...
- 38:55Speaker 2: took out two ribs he definitely took out two ribs
- 38:57Speaker 2: that's true.
- 38:59Speaker 3: This lieutenant also gave himself a blow job by telling
- 39:03Speaker 3: the news everything like they're just not shying away from
- 39:08Speaker 3: just revealing shit on the news i.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Mean it's like it's like trump's administration dude they're just
- 39:14Speaker 2: saying what they're the horrible things that they're doing out
- 39:17Speaker 2: loud they're like yeah we do it and people like
- 39:19Speaker 2: wait they said it out loud and everyone's like yeah
- 39:21Speaker 2: they did and they did do that Yeah. And she
- 39:25Speaker 2: then watches Bride of Chucky and, or sorry, she watches
- 39:29Speaker 2: Bride of Frankenstein. Yeah.
- 39:31Speaker 3: And Chucky scrapes the bars away of the bars of
- 39:35Speaker 3: wood away with the ring and then breaks free and
- 39:39Speaker 3: takes the doll.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Yeah. What will become the Tiffany doll into the bathroom and,
- 39:45Speaker 2: and it.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Says till death do us part and he's like you
- 39:49Speaker 3: got that right.
- 39:50Speaker 2: He pulls out what's gonna be his like weapon for
- 39:53Speaker 2: the rest of the movie weapon of choice i kind
- 39:55Speaker 2: of like that chucky's just like a straight-up slasher they
- 39:59Speaker 2: kind of even make fun of it in this movie
- 40:01Speaker 2: that they're like she's like oh you're so boring you
- 40:04Speaker 2: just killed boring ways yeah and like they she's like
- 40:08Speaker 2: so that they can do some more creative kills but
- 40:11Speaker 2: It turns out that Chucky really just loved fucking stabbing people.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Nothing beats the hobo life. Stabbing folks with my hobo knife.
- 40:21Speaker 3: And also the parallels of the Frankenstein's monster being like,
- 40:26Speaker 3: she doesn't love me.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:28Speaker 3: And then him saying we belong dead. is something later
- 40:32Speaker 3: that she says, which I really liked. But her reaction
- 40:36Speaker 3: when the Chucky doll comes into the bathroom and she
- 40:39Speaker 3: kicks him and he flies away. It's amazing, dude. It's
- 40:42Speaker 3: so funny.
- 40:43Speaker 2: It's a real love-me-not situation, dude. She gets the television
- 40:49Speaker 2: fucking thrown into the.
- 40:51Speaker 3: She gets electrocuted so well.
- 40:53Speaker 2: This is what the fucking song Digital Bath is about.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:58Speaker 2: The Deftones song. It's about this moment.
- 41:02Speaker 3: In the movie?
- 41:02Speaker 2: No.
- 41:03Speaker 3: No.
- 41:03Speaker 2: Just this happening. This happening.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Which is really weird to think about. I love that song.
- 41:09Speaker 2: I love that band. Tiffany's death is amazing, dude. Yeah. Like,
- 41:12Speaker 2: the way she's, like.
- 41:13Speaker 3: Yeah, she does a good job dying. Like, she does
- 41:15Speaker 3: a good job flailing around and being, like.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And her makeup, her perfectly makeuped open eye in the
- 41:21Speaker 2: water underneath. In the water, yeah. What an interesting choice
- 41:24Speaker 2: for a shot. It's, like, really, like... well-directed movie like
- 41:28Speaker 2: so they ain't another split diopter dude of the tiffany
- 41:31Speaker 2: doll getting how they do it.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Yeah and him the first time being like how they
- 41:37Speaker 3: do it with his tiny fingers moving.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Dude did you notice did you notice the small change
- 41:43Speaker 2: the small but significant change It's not Adelaide Poitier. It's
- 41:49Speaker 2: Andale Poitier. The Chucky Spanish Chucky, dude. Andale. Andale. Maybe
- 41:54Speaker 2: he was black Chucky before.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Now he's... Now he's Hispanic Chucky.
- 41:58Speaker 2: I think so, dude. I think Chucky is, you know,
- 42:02Speaker 2: maybe originally from Texas. Man.
- 42:05Speaker 3: her uh tiffany getting up as the doll and just
- 42:09Speaker 3: slightly open mouth but like it can't really express that
- 42:13Speaker 3: way so it's like they had to kind of make
- 42:15Speaker 3: her really mad and the punches dude i'm.
- 42:20Speaker 2: So weirded out by pre pre fucking animatronic pre tiffany
- 42:26Speaker 2: fide pre ossified tiffany.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Pre ossified tiffany is very strange because it's very like Yeah.
- 42:34Speaker 2: It kind of looks like... It looks like the way that... Oh,
- 42:39Speaker 2: this is what it is, dude. It looks like people
- 42:42Speaker 2: with a lot of plastic surgery without makeup. Yeah.
- 42:45Speaker 3: That's what it looks like. Totally. Totally.
- 42:48Speaker 2: So.
- 42:49Speaker 3: You got your wish. You're mine now, doll. You're gonna
- 42:54Speaker 3: love me, obey me, and honor me.
- 42:57Speaker 2: That's good. You've got it back, dude. And Tiffany's voice
- 43:02Speaker 2: coming out of the doll... Both Brad Dourif and Jennifer
- 43:07Speaker 2: Tilly have such great, like, almost like cartoonish voices. Yeah, they, like,
- 43:15Speaker 2: it's so singular.
- 43:18Speaker 3: And so... And.
- 43:20Speaker 2: So... And so appropriate. Yeah, totally. Hey, Raggedy Ann.
- 43:25Speaker 3: Yeah. All the doll references.
- 43:27Speaker 2: I love it, dude. Throws the ring at her. She
- 43:31Speaker 2: looks so weird, dude. It's because she's also very squishy faced.
- 43:37Speaker 3: It's very squishy faced. Face it, Tiff.
- 43:40Speaker 2: You need me. Otherwise, you're stuck like this for good.
- 43:43Speaker 2: She just looks like Anna because of the hair. That's
- 43:45Speaker 2: what it is. The hair. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's
- 43:53Speaker 2: so funny, dude. The olive eyes. But when she's Yossified,
- 43:57Speaker 2: it looks amazing. Yeah. Because it's just, like, this hair
- 44:00Speaker 2: doesn't suit her, and, like, yeah. Something about the, like,
- 44:03Speaker 2: anatomy of the face just doesn't look good like this.
- 44:06Speaker 3: No, no.
- 44:07Speaker 2: It really needs the hair and the makeup to be different. Yeah.
- 44:11Speaker 2: But I love the green eyes, dude. Yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah,
- 44:15Speaker 2: it's really nice. And it's a good contrast to his, too.
- 44:17Speaker 2: The fucking photoshopped amulet is amazing, dude. It's, like, floating
- 44:22Speaker 2: on top. It's, like, purely just, like, so badly done, dude. But...
- 44:27Speaker 2: i bought it whatever amulet let's sure.
- 44:30Speaker 3: I was wearing it around my neck when those bastards
- 44:34Speaker 3: gunned me down it's buried with my corpse by the
- 44:39Speaker 3: way it's seemingly that jacket was also buried with his
- 44:43Speaker 3: corpse that was also very hilarious.
- 44:45Speaker 2: To see the corpse just wearing the costume i love it.
- 44:49Speaker 4: Well they have to we have to know it's chucky
- 44:50Speaker 4: yeah dude Well, let's go. Yeah, that's a good idea.
- 44:55Speaker 4: I'll steer and you pedal. We're dolls, you dope.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Yeah. So she gets the bright idea that she's like,
- 45:04Speaker 2: I know this kid. He lives in my trailer park.
- 45:06Speaker 2: And this is where the connection happens.
- 45:08Speaker 3: And the crying dude, the like with the hands, like
- 45:13Speaker 3: her being like, what are we going to do?
- 45:17Speaker 2: But she calls Jesse. Jesse. And she's like, hey, she
- 45:22Speaker 2: knows he needs money, dude. So she's like, I'm going
- 45:25Speaker 2: to give you $ 500 to take a couple of dolls
- 45:29Speaker 2: to New Jersey. And he's like, no, you need $ 1, 000.
- 45:33Speaker 2: All right, you'll get $ 500 now, and then my associate
- 45:37Speaker 2: will give you the rest when you arrive.
- 45:39Speaker 3: And listen, $ 1, 000... Adjusted for inflation in 2026 is only $ 2, 000.
- 45:45Speaker 3: I looked it up.
- 45:46Speaker 2: Did you look it up? I looked it up.
- 45:48Speaker 3: Because I was like, what could they possibly.
- 45:50Speaker 2: Because he goes.
- 45:51Speaker 3: In the scene where he's like, you can go to college.
- 45:55Speaker 2: I'll put a down payment on an apartment.
- 45:57Speaker 3: I was like, what? How much money do you think $ 2, 000 is?
- 46:01Speaker 2: $ 1, 000, yeah. I mean, I don't know, dude. I mean,
- 46:06Speaker 2: I guess it did go further back then, though.
- 46:09Speaker 3: But, I mean, it's $ 2, 000.
- 46:12Speaker 2: It's not that much.
- 46:13Speaker 3: It wasn't that much then either. Not to be like,
- 46:17Speaker 3: I'm going to make plans with you. You're going to
- 46:18Speaker 3: go to college.
- 46:19Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, I like that part of
- 46:22Speaker 2: the movie because I think they were just being naive.
- 46:24Speaker 2: It's showing how young they are.
- 46:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Young people do think like this, dude. That's true. They're like, yeah,
- 46:31Speaker 2: a thousand dollars. That's a lot of money. And it
- 46:34Speaker 2: is a lot of money all at once. But is
- 46:37Speaker 2: it a lot of money in the grand scheme of things?
- 46:38Speaker 2: Not really.
- 46:39Speaker 3: No, not really.
- 46:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:41Speaker 3: But yeah, she does her makeover, which is great. And
- 46:45Speaker 3: looks way better. And I would fuck this doll with
- 46:47Speaker 3: the Chucky pussy.
- 46:48Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. Chucky still has the pussy, I think.
- 46:57Speaker 3: I definitely think that the reason it looks weird is because...
- 47:00Speaker 3: You're totally right. The makeup brings a contrast from her.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Face to the rest of her face. And did it
- 47:10Speaker 2: look like these shoes? They cut to the shoes.
- 47:13Speaker 3: They're way small.
- 47:15Speaker 2: No, okay, okay. They're, like, perfectly made. Doc Martens. They
- 47:18Speaker 2: look like Doc Martens. They look like Doc Martens, and
- 47:21Speaker 2: they kind of look like the Doc Martens that, like,
- 47:24Speaker 2: people who have clubbed feet wear. Sure, yeah, yeah.
- 47:27Speaker 3: You know, like, where, like, they're different size. One is
- 47:29Speaker 3: different size.
- 47:29Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And, like, I feel like they kind of
- 47:33Speaker 2: have that kind of type of heel where it's, like,
- 47:35Speaker 2: a little bit, like, chunkier.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Clubfoot.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i loved it dude i was like i
- 47:39Speaker 2: was so into the the like drag of it all
- 47:43Speaker 2: like it's very this is also like obviously it's like
- 47:46Speaker 2: very queer right like drag and And she lights, with
- 47:50Speaker 2: Bailey's Zippo, she lights a cigarette and Chucky's got a boner.
- 47:54Speaker 2: I'm anatomically correct. I've got a pussy.
- 47:58Speaker 3: Also, I did, I loved the line, her not being
- 48:03Speaker 3: able to know what a doll feels like. And he's like,
- 48:06Speaker 3: just act natural. And the act natural is her kind of,
- 48:10Speaker 3: with her hand on her forehead and fainting, kind of like, like.
- 48:14Speaker 1: Oh, dear.
- 48:15Speaker 3: I love it, dude. Very funny.
- 48:17Speaker 2: There's a lot of really cool sight gags like that
- 48:20Speaker 2: in this. Yeah, totally. And Chucky's face is just like... Yeah, smiling.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Sinister smile. And he's holding the money. He's holding the
- 48:28Speaker 2: money and a note that says, Jesse. And the letter...
- 48:33Speaker 2: A letter! It says, Jesse with a heart. Hi, sweet face.
- 48:37Speaker 2: Please deliver dolls to caretaker's office at a cemetery. He's like, cemetery?
- 48:43Speaker 3: And then he picks up both the dolls, and instead
- 48:45Speaker 3: of hitting the Chucky doll against something, he hits the
- 48:48Speaker 3: Tiffany doll against something.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's still, like, fucking, like, he's holding these dolls.
- 48:53Speaker 2: And these dolls are a lot more, like, solid than
- 48:56Speaker 2: the other ones are portrayed to be. When people are
- 48:59Speaker 2: carrying the other ones, the.
- 49:00Speaker 3: Hand is always, like, loose.
- 49:02Speaker 2: It's, like, loose. It, like, looks like it's stuffed with feathers.
- 49:06Speaker 2: And this one is, like, an actual, like, full plastic,
- 49:09Speaker 2: full plastic jacket. Yeah. And David is consoling Jade. Her
- 49:18Speaker 2: name is Jade. I went to her station. Her kids
- 49:23Speaker 2: don't go to church or believe in God. Her name
- 49:25Speaker 2: is Jade. I went to her station. I went to
- 49:28Speaker 2: her station.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Her kids don't go to church or believe in God.
- 49:32Speaker 3: I really enjoyed this little... I don't know, they did
- 49:36Speaker 3: little stuff that I really liked between Jesse.
- 49:40Speaker 2: Jesse.
- 49:41Speaker 3: David and Jade, because it's like, you do kind of
- 49:47Speaker 3: believe this weird three-way friendship.
- 49:51Speaker 2: I do. I have friendships like this.
- 49:53Speaker 3: It's almost like one of them introduced... It's almost like
- 49:57Speaker 3: David introduced... jade to jesse yeah yeah yeah and then
- 50:02Speaker 3: that's why they're such good friends 100 and like her
- 50:05Speaker 3: being like did you love this dude well yeah yeah
- 50:08Speaker 3: i did they put i think they do a.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Really good job of setting up a lot of backstory
- 50:12Speaker 2: again something this movie does well that that it falls
- 50:15Speaker 2: in the footsteps of the other chucky movies so far
- 50:17Speaker 2: is that Well, I should say child's play movies. This
- 50:20Speaker 2: is the first Chuckie movie. But it talks about, like,
- 50:23Speaker 2: you know, it builds relationships between small amounts of characters
- 50:28Speaker 2: in a very short amount of time that, like, ends
- 50:30Speaker 2: up feeling believable. Yeah. Because she's, like, didn't... Were you, like,
- 50:34Speaker 2: in love with that dude? Like, it shows that they've
- 50:36Speaker 2: known each other, that she knows about his past relationships.
- 50:39Speaker 3: And he says.
- 50:40Speaker 2: The names of his ex-person, you know, ex-boyfriend. And he says.
- 50:43Speaker 3: Oh, his mother found a letter that I wrote to him,
- 50:48Speaker 3: and I haven't spoken to him since. It's really sad.
- 50:50Speaker 2: I mean, that's a type of line that only a
- 50:55Speaker 2: gay or queer person could have the sense to write. Yeah,
- 50:59Speaker 2: for sure. And he's got, I've got $ 500. I've got
- 51:01Speaker 2: five kids to feed. Boyfriend comes. Where did you get
- 51:05Speaker 2: $ 500 whole dollars? I love that she's also acting like
- 51:12Speaker 2: it's a lot of money. But I guess, like, it's
- 51:13Speaker 2: just showing how juvenile they are.
- 51:16Speaker 3: But then David walks away and he's like, I want details.
- 51:20Speaker 2: And Chucky and Tiffany are laughing in the car. He's like,
- 51:26Speaker 2: he thinks it's fucking dorky. And she thinks it's really romantic.
- 51:30Speaker 2: Which also furthers the idea that Chucky is like, you know...
- 51:36Speaker 2: being kind of a dick to her, not showing that
- 51:40Speaker 2: he loves her or cares about her at all.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of cool thing about
- 51:44Speaker 3: the adventure aspect of the movie, is because she's also
- 51:47Speaker 3: seeing this guy be romantic. It's not just like, oh,
- 51:53Speaker 3: I'm lustful after this guy.
- 51:54Speaker 2: No, yeah.
- 51:55Speaker 3: She's seeing him be like a good dude.
- 51:57Speaker 2: She's seeing the lengths that he's going to for this love, right?
- 52:01Speaker 2: And they do really try and make it a kind
- 52:02Speaker 2: of like a Romeo and Juliet or... Bonnie and Clyde situation, right?
- 52:06Speaker 2: Where you're just like, oh, these two crazy kids love
- 52:10Speaker 2: each other.
- 52:10Speaker 3: And then Chief Warren is trying to go into the car.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Oh, and John Ritter, he wants to plant drugs, dude.
- 52:18Speaker 2: He's got drugs to plant. He's holding a bag of weed.
- 52:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:22Speaker 2: And then I love.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Fucking dick, John Ritter. And then Chucky will be like, ah,
- 52:28Speaker 3: what the hell? I need the exercise.
- 52:31Speaker 2: And this is where she criticizes his boring.
- 52:34Speaker 3: Murder style. Murder style. But.
- 52:36Speaker 2: Who the fuck is Martha Stewart? Wait, what did she
- 52:42Speaker 2: say Martha Stewart says?
- 52:44Speaker 3: She says, um.
- 52:48Speaker 2: This movie's got great lines. Who the fuck is Martha Stewart?
- 52:52Speaker 2: He's really good. He wouldn't know who Martha Stewart is.
- 52:55Speaker 2: For the past ten years, he's just been, like, getting
- 52:57Speaker 2: murdered as a doll.
- 52:59Speaker 3: For God's sakes, Chucky, drag yourself into the 90s. Stabbing
- 53:03Speaker 3: people when I was Bundy and Dahmer.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I love it, dude. You look like Martha Stewart with
- 53:08Speaker 2: that thing. It's funny. It's funny. It is funny. It
- 53:11Speaker 2: is very funny. And it's, like, the jokes land also
- 53:13Speaker 2: in a kind of an adult way.
- 53:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:15Speaker 2: He goes for a hammer to kill John Ritter with,
- 53:17Speaker 2: and she's like, that's so, that's so dorky.
- 53:20Speaker 3: But also, like, when he goes, who the fuck is
- 53:24Speaker 3: Martha Stewart? She goes, my idol, which is also very funny. And, dude,
- 53:30Speaker 3: we get, not only do we get a fucking... Texas
- 53:33Speaker 3: Chainsaw Massacre reference. But we also get a Pinhead reference, dude. Yes,
- 53:37Speaker 3: we do.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Because in the next scene, John Ritter comes back and
- 53:40Speaker 2: he goes inside the truck to plant the drugs. And
- 53:43Speaker 2: he's looking for a primo place to plant the drugs, dude.
- 53:46Speaker 3: Which is under the seat.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Yes.
- 53:48Speaker 3: Which has a pocket in it where it fully comes
- 53:53Speaker 3: up and you can just hide a body, apparently.
- 53:54Speaker 2: It's a lip, dude. It is a lip.
- 53:56Speaker 3: And then he hears something and he hears like giggling
- 53:59Speaker 3: that Chucky and Tiffany are doing. And he goes up
- 54:02Speaker 3: to the front where they've jerry-rigged nails to come off
- 54:09Speaker 3: when they open the glove compartment. And it just seems
- 54:12Speaker 3: like it would never ever fly this quickly.
- 54:14Speaker 2: The way this wouldn't work, it would just like hit
- 54:16Speaker 2: your face.
- 54:17Speaker 3: It would poke your eye for sure. It would just
- 54:20Speaker 3: gently tap your face.
- 54:21Speaker 2: And you'd be like.
- 54:22Speaker 3: What happened?
- 54:23Speaker 2: But it would poke your... It would, like, near miss
- 54:25Speaker 2: your eye, and you'd be like, oh, that would have
- 54:26Speaker 2: been really bad if it did actually hit my eye.
- 54:29Speaker 2: But the way they came at my face, it just
- 54:31Speaker 2: so happened that it didn't. Yeah, totally.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:33Speaker 2: No, but it, like, jet shoots out, and he's, like,
- 54:38Speaker 2: twitching and does, like, a problem child face.
- 54:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chucky goes... Why does that look so familiar?
- 54:44Speaker 3: It's because it's Pinhead, dude.
- 54:46Speaker 2: That's why it looks so familiar. Do you think when
- 54:48Speaker 2: he's in the Necronomicon world and he's being summoned by Ash,
- 54:52Speaker 2: dead by dawn, dead by dawn, he sees the other
- 54:55Speaker 2: ghouls of the horrorverse, dude? Yeah, probably. He sees their souls, dude.
- 55:03Speaker 3: And.
- 55:03Speaker 2: There's fully just, like, ketchup blood on John Ritter's face.
- 55:08Speaker 2: And they put Pinhead... And they pick up... They open
- 55:10Speaker 2: the lip. Their strength... This is where I'm like, their
- 55:14Speaker 2: strength is inconsistent. Completely. If they're a doll that's... You
- 55:17Speaker 2: can kick it and it flies away. You can't pick
- 55:20Speaker 2: up John Ritter's body, dude. Yeah, 100%. He's a fat guy, dude.
- 55:23Speaker 3: Yeah. He's pretty.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Like, he's a chonky dude.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. And Tiffany cleaning up the blood so quickly...
- 55:30Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.
- 55:31Speaker 2: There's so much blood.
- 55:32Speaker 3: Speaking of Beth Grant. Beth Grant was in the second one, dude.
- 55:35Speaker 3: Not in this one.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Chucky alum, dude. You gotta mention. I don't know what
- 55:39Speaker 2: to do. There's so much blood.
- 55:44Speaker 3: And then Chucky finds the weed and puts it in
- 55:47Speaker 3: his tiny pocket.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Oh, dude. Chucky being a stoner. I mean, dude, he's
- 55:52Speaker 2: into voodoo. He's friends with black people. Dude, Chucky for
- 55:55Speaker 2: sure loves weed. And he's Hispanic in this one.
- 55:58Speaker 3: Fucking voodoo magic man, dude.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Yeah. He's LA Hispanic from this one, so... He is
- 56:05Speaker 2: LA Hispanic in this one. Andale. Oh, he's Cholo Chucky, dude. Andale. Well, he's... Carlos,
- 56:16Speaker 2: you know? He's Carlos Lee Ray. He's Carlos Lee Ray.
- 56:20Speaker 3: Okay.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Okay.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Um needle nose stops them needle.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Dick stops them and he's like pull over you know
- 56:28Speaker 2: what technology i really hate dude which the technology that
- 56:35Speaker 2: all police cars have now oh yeah where they go
- 56:37Speaker 2: like adieu it's i hate it dude i feel like
- 56:42Speaker 2: it's like it is fully like a violence it's violence
- 56:46Speaker 2: yeah And he, like, fucking, this guy comes with the
- 56:51Speaker 2: most Irish eyes. Needledick's got the most Irish face you've
- 56:54Speaker 2: ever seen. He's squinty looking at them and being like,
- 56:57Speaker 2: I'm glad I pulled you over, because I'm going to
- 57:02Speaker 2: find drugs in your car.
- 57:03Speaker 3: Yeah, and she comes to confront, Catherine Heigl comes to
- 57:07Speaker 3: confront him, and she's like, is this covered by your
- 57:09Speaker 3: regular salary, or do you get, does my uncle pay
- 57:12Speaker 3: you extra?
- 57:13Speaker 2: And he happy, he happy says, He smile eyes as extra.
- 57:19Speaker 2: I get paid more for this to harass you.
- 57:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 57:23Speaker 3: And, and her being like, I'm sure you're a good guy.
- 57:26Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you were sure he's a good guy. Well,
- 57:29Speaker 2: her uncle's a cop, dude. Um, so, you know, she's,
- 57:32Speaker 2: she's a little pill. She hasn't got to university yet. Um, one,
- 57:37Speaker 2: one semester at, uh, you know, uh, at a university,
- 57:41Speaker 2: a liberal university will, and she threatens to vaporize him, dude.
- 57:46Speaker 3: Uh, honestly.
- 57:47Speaker 2: And Chucky's fucking smoking a J with, with Tiffany in
- 57:52Speaker 2: the back. I, I.
- 57:53Speaker 3: Really did love the fact that she goes, that he goes,
- 57:57Speaker 3: you seem like really nice kids, but it's nothing personal,
- 58:01Speaker 3: at least on my part, but the money, man, being
- 58:06Speaker 3: such a piece of shit.
- 58:08Speaker 2: She wants to vaporize him, dude. Um, and he, Jesse
- 58:14Speaker 2: pulls Jade aside. to reassure her? Or what does he say?
- 58:22Speaker 3: Well, he says, go get us some food from that
- 58:27Speaker 3: food truck. But then later on, she comes back with
- 58:30Speaker 3: two full bags of groceries. And it's like, where did
- 58:33Speaker 3: that grocery store come from? There was no grocery store there.
- 58:37Speaker 3: And then Needledick goes to, you know, find the drugs.
- 58:43Speaker 2: And....
- 58:45Speaker 3: The planted drugs the planted drugs uh which he would
- 58:49Speaker 3: smell because chucky was smoking it he was just i
- 58:52Speaker 3: just smoked a joint here it smells like a joint
- 58:55Speaker 3: yeah it would.
- 58:55Speaker 2: Have smelt in this small van but whatever movie reality
- 59:00Speaker 2: he's too squinty to notice he's definitely too squinty to
- 59:04Speaker 2: notice and he doesn't he he goes to check the
- 59:07Speaker 2: the uh underneath the the lip the lip to see
- 59:12Speaker 2: where john ritter's dead body is he pulls open the
- 59:14Speaker 2: lip pulls back the foreskin of the car dude and
- 59:19Speaker 2: and chucky and tiffany both reaction shot Yeah.
- 59:24Speaker 3: They kick him so that they don't notice, and then
- 59:26Speaker 3: Chucky throws the drugs across the car, and he notices
- 59:29Speaker 3: that the drugs are over there, and he pulls them out.
- 59:32Speaker 3: And Jesse's like, ah, bullshit, you know that's not mine.
- 59:35Speaker 3: And he's like.
- 59:37Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna fucking kill you, kid. Yeah.
- 59:42Speaker 2: the way how happy he i love that he grabs
- 59:45Speaker 2: the weed from his hand yeah he's kind of like
- 59:48Speaker 2: a bold move that like then he like pushes him
- 59:50Speaker 2: onto the the hood of the car for every action
- 59:54Speaker 2: has a reaction in the movie which is like it
- 59:57Speaker 2: really felt kinetic because of that but he leaves the
- 59:59Speaker 2: weed with him and then.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: He grabs it oh yeah he and and then uh
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: chucky makes like a a statement to like where he's
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: like Figures you'd hitch us a ride with a fugitive.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: And it's like, it's not really that, like....
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: It's not really the fugitive... Sorry.
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: He's kind of blaming Tiff a lot for his own problems. Like,
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: he kind of builds it up in a way where
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: it's like, well... He wasn't a fugitive at that point.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: He's a fugitive now because you guys... No, but Chucky's
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: a fucking dick. And, like, I think it's just, like,
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: showing up. That's further proof that Chucky's a dick. But, dude,
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: where they plant the evidence.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: I love this, dude. I think this looks amazing.
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: It's great, yeah. He takes a towel and takes the
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: lighter from Tiffany.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: And he gets, like, fucking puppeteered over and lights... the
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: fire to a rag that he stuffed into the.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Gas tank of the cop of the squinty face cop
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: uh and it's great i.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: Love the like shot from inside the hole the hole
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: yeah it's great of the gas tank is so cool
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: and then like it's either oh the the zippo falls
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: out of his pocket the bailey zippo so it's planted
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: evidence yeah It becomes evidence.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: It becomes evidence that a serial killer might be killing people.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: And then the cop explodes.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: And Chucky gives the finger to a stoned kid, and
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: he's like, that's rude, doll. I loved it, dude. And
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: for some reason, these kids that are just hanging out
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: outside of a rec center or something, is it like
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: a local show? What are they doing? They're seeing their
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: local band. Yeah, probably. And... Oh man, when they wave
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: at the cop exploding, they reveal them. I love that
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: they're revealing themselves to the people they're about to kill.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: 100%.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: I love that too.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: And then.
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: Katherine Heigl comes back to the car with grocery bags.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Two full bags of groceries.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: Two full bags of groceries. Which is like, you're getting arrested, dude.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: Why did you bring this back?
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: Why did you go away for so long? Yeah.
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: It's crazy. And then she gets in and Jesse has
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: such a good reaction because Katherine Heigl doesn't know what happened.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: She just saw the explosion and she's just like.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: Drive! Drive! Anyway, just go! Go! I love that they're
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: both like, this van doesn't smell like weed at all.
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the door was open, dude.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: The window was open, yeah. I mean, I agree. And
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: then we get this little fucking piece of shit bootlicker
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: kid being like, it's them! It's them!
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: Call the cops!
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: It's like, she's related to a cop, you fucking idiot. Yeah.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: She's got a dead cop in her car. Actually, We
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: don't know if the cop's dead yet, but we'll get there, dude.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: And a bunch of chaos is sown because all these, like,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: teenage cars crash into each other because they're all, like,
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: trying to, like, panic drive away. But, like, it's some real, like,
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: Danny Maldroon acting in the background. It's some real, like,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: Predator versus Alien 2 acting in this. It's very Lachlan,
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: whatever that guy's name is, acting. What's the guy's name again?
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Lachlan McAdams or something?
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: Something like that.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: Amazing actor, dude. Amazing, like, 2000s putty face actor. Canadian actor, dude.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: Amazing Vancouver Canadian actor, dude. Yeah. This movie feels like
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: it's in that universe. It is.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: It's by the same director. It's got John Ritter and
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: John Ritter's kid in the other one, like Jason Ritter.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: I'm so down.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Me too.
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: I think it's Lachlan Monroe? If I remember. Yeah. Lachlan Monroe.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: I love him.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: And then they start Jesse and Jade start fighting with
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: each other because it's like, like, how could you how
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: could you think that I did it? And he's like, well,
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: you said you were going to vaporize him. Dude, I
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: love this kind of like weird sewing of discontent between
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: the two of them. sort of just circumstantially, they're like,
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: weird stuff is, like, following them and happening, and they
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: don't know why, so they both suspect each other. And that's, like,
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: makes so much sense, and, like, drives the story forward
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: so well.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: Yeah. Because it's also, like, putting disharmony temporarily between them,
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: so that they can also later fall back in love,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: so that Tiffany can see that, and that can be
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: another further... motivating force it's so well written dude exactly
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: um it's written in but this time as your bride
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: dude written in as your bride so that i can
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: be katherine heigl instead of katherine hicks yeah and they're
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: on the phone with david they're on speak dave you're
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: on speaker and then we're driving you're on speaker okay.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: Okay don't say anything okay they wouldn't say.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: To both of us yeah okay so can we go
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: yeah so what did you want to say david What
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: does he say?
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: Well, like... Yeah, he calls David and they basically talk
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: about how.
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: David is like, maybe you guys should turn yourself in.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: This seems really weird.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Something's weird. Yeah, yeah. He's giving them pretty good advice.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: And he's like, nobody's going to believe us. And he
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: was like, they're setting up borders. And he's like, oh,
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: you got to lay low.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: They arrive in Niagara Falls, dude. While the blood starts
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: from underneath the lip.
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And then they still get married, which I'm like,
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: it's kind of... The dynamic is kind of interesting because
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we have a feeling that both of
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: us are killers in some way, but we're young and stupid.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: And he's like, well, do you trust me? She's like,
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: of course I do.
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: But there's this somberness to the whole thing.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: Yeah, which, because they're not sure if they can trust
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: each other. Dude, did you like the fucking... shot of
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: the Canadian side of the falls. Of course. Yeah.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: I mean, this movie was shot in the Canadian side,
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: pretending to be the other side.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: A hundred percent. But I guess they're trying to make,
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I mean, Niagara falls is kind of like the Vegas
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: of the North, I guess. Yeah.
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: Um, and then Chucky being like, as they're going into the,
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: the chapel, Chucky being like sucker and her being like,
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: I think they make a cute couple.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: If you ask me... She's very Marge Simpson, dude.
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: That's... No, I'm very Marge. You do a better impression
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: of her, though. I think you get.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: He's got lippy breath here. Yeah, that's true. Mine is more...
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: Mine is more... Follow me. Yours is... Yours is follow me.
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: Mine is more, uh, what's it?
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: Mrs. Bouvier? Than Marge? This fucking Serbian matitar who is, like, wedding, though.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: He's like... We are gathered today here to bring together
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: these two people who they love each other, you know?
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: So we're going to marry them, right?
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: So you can kiss.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: You can kiss. We're going to marry them. We have
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: a candelabra. We have the Canadian side of the falls
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: here in Canada, right? To get them married.
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: And then they're listening. Chucky and Tiff are listening to music.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: This is where we get the reveal that Chucky's a metalhead. Well,
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: you don't believe it, dude, because you think Chucky likes
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: Run DMC and not Aerosmith.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: You know what?
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: Can I tell you something? What do you think Charles
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: Lee Ray was listening at that point? Because I think
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: he was listening to folk.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: He's listening to like Fela Cutie, dude. He's listening to
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: like Bob Marley.
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: I think he's listening to folk and I think he's
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: listening to funk. It's like that's the kind of thing
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: that I'm thinking. Yeah.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: And yeah, like I said, Fela Cutie, you know, he's like,
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: he's like, he likes, you know, he's like into dub, dude.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: He's smoking a J and listening to dub. I buy
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: him as a metalhead. I think, you know. I mean,
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: he had the long hair, dude. Yeah, that's the thing.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: And he had the balding long hair, which is like
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: a true metalhead move. Somehow still so thick. I mean,
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: he got on that fin very early, dude.
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: Well, no, he didn't because he had fucking what's her name?
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: he just had that hair dude he still has that
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: long hair like in the pit he just had the
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: long hair it's amazing dude um but there's a nice
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: tenderness to this like constantly being like i want to
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: get married chucky this is the time to do it
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: and him being like and and she wants to spend
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: more time with him.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: They gave him less gum disease in this one, which
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: I think was a good move.
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: I think you appreciated the less gum disease.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: Then fucking pinhead John Ritter comes back to life and
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: he's like, ah, ah, ah. He's so terrified. He sees
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: Chucky and then Chucky's like, I'm going to do it
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: the classic way. And he gets fucking like dollied over.
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: He's on like, he's on like fucking like a motorcycle.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Chucky rides over.
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: Well, it's not just that, but John Ritter also turns
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: over and falls on the nails into his face.
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: And Chucky stabs him, dude. And Tiff gets turned on
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: by it. She loves it.
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: And while it's, while the.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: The Serbian Matic was like.
- 1:09:50Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: Proglasio sam vas, muž i žena. Yeah, exactly. Možete se poljubit.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: It is možda se poljubit.
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: And the hesitancy of no eyes closed for him either.
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: He just doesn't. He kisses her with both eyes open. Yeah.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't flinch, dude. I mean, he loves her, dude.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: Yeah. He does. And then we get more... news footage
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: of this this lieutenant being like bad lieutenant dude but
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: he is a bad lieutenant in this he's we'll get
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: to how bad a lieutenant he is in the movie
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: who is he is he.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: Like an fbi guy is this fbi.
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: Now no he's just i guess so actually maybe.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: Honeymoon suites only steps from the falls they go into
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: this like the lieutenant dude He kind of gives, like,
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: an old-school cop, like, Robert Loja vibe. Definitely in the
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: Loja camp. He's got the, like, very, like, thick chest man.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Broad shoulders.
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: Like, the kind of old that doesn't sag at the neck.
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: But the kind of old that looms over you. He's
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: got the kind of, like, just, like, barrel-chested build. Only, like,
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: a guy... Who was born in the 40s could have, dude.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: Definitely born in the 40s. And then, like, this hot
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: woman in, like, a negligee walks in and she arrives, dude,
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: along with, like, this, like, fucking loser.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: God, he's such a loser. Both of these people are losers,
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: and they come in to, like, rob them. And it
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: seems like the implication for this makes no sense, because
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: it seems like these are.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: It's our third Bonnie and Clyde couple, dude.
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: These are a couple that pretends to get married to
- 1:11:44Speaker 3: go into other people's suites... And steal money from them,
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: I guess. And pretend to want to fuck them.
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: Well, they want to... They're into, like... They're into polyamory.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: They are into polyamory. They're into kinky polyamory people. They
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: love going to all of the nightclubs, you know?
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: And then her looking at the Tiffany doll being like,
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: oh my God, this is amazing. And she is, she's
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: totally right. It is amazing.
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: And then she sees the Chucky doll. And she's like, ugh.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: Chucky's also amazing looking. Chucky's also amazing. He doesn't look bad. No,
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: he looks incredible.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: He doesn't look scary.
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: He looks incredible.
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: He looks incredible. He looks like, wow, this animatronic Hollywood
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: style doll. And the guy is just like. waterbeds dude
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: well okay the guy going it's a good guy doll
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: and it's like that's not a fucking good you would
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: be like ugh But also... But you.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: Wouldn't recognize it. It's dressed like a good guy doll.
- 1:12:38Speaker 3: It is dressed like a good guy doll.
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: It's a Chucky doll.
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: But I also loved... I also loved.
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: This guy has a face that a mother would love. Hi,
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: I'm Chucky, and I wouldn't talk if I were you.
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: I thought that was awesome.
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: Chucky bringing back good guy voice is amazing, dude. Code
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: switching Chucky.
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: Heidi Ho. Totally code switching Chucky.
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. And then Heidi Ho, she's counting the
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: money later on, because they stole the money, and he's
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: bringing over champagne. You know, he's fucking hot off their
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: criminal streak. And she's kind of a bit over it,
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: you know? She's giving him a little bit of toot.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. This... Made me never want to sleep
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: on a waterbed ever because it seems so uncomfortable. But
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: also this.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: Just like you have spinal problems.
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: Yeah, spinal problems.
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: It's terrible for a stomach sleeper. If you're a stomach sleeper,
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: a waterbed is not good. You don't want that. No, totally.
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: And then as she's on the ground, or as she's
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: on her back, she sees in the mirror.
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: Sorry, I should explain that better. The two couple, the
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: evil couple, are banging on the waterbed. And Chucky and
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: Tiffany sneak in. And Tiffany grabs the champagne. And as
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: they're having sex, the lady sees Tiffany, the doll... throw
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: the bottle and hit the glass mirror that they're... Oh,
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: there's like a mirror at the top.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: There's like a fuck mirror above the bed.
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: And it's awesome. This scene is great. I think this
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: is great.
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: It's very cool. Yeah. It's similar logic to like the
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: pins being shot out. It's kind of like, I guess like...
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: This is way more logical than that. What we're led
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: to believe is that magic murder can happen in Chucky. Yes.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: And this is just a magic murder.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: Well, they're just so good at murder that they can
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: murder in these kinds of fun ways because they've been
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: doing it so long.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: And all the glass falls into them and Chucky gets
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: so horny for Tiff.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: And bloody water starts, dude.
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: Oh, dude. It was such a great shot. And it's
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: not that gruesome at first. You don't really see it
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: go into them until later. You see the aftermath of it.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: And Chucky proposes... Gets down on one knee. Yeah, he
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: proposes to Tiff, which is very cute.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: It's sweet. And the prop of the sliced finger with
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: the ring on it that she's stolen, and he gets
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: it back and pulls the ring off of the dead finger.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: With his tooth?
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: It's fucking amazing. Oh, that's a better... There we go.
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: Oh, Chucky.
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: That's good, yeah. I can't quite get it where you are.
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: I love the drawn-on mole, dude. It's amazing.
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: Now you gotta give the little cute voice to her.
- 1:15:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. They did really make it look like her, though.
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: It's really funny.
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: As much as they made Charles Lee Ray's.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Hairline, dude.
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Dude, it's magic, dude.
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: When they have sex with each other, it's weird.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: It's so weird. Well, Chucky, we've established he's, animatonically, he's
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: got the pussy from the other movies. And he tells
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: her as much. He's like, hey, I got the pussy
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: of the other movie. We can fuck. And so, because Tiffany... Well,
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: she just knows how it all works. Well, the plumbing.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: She starts crying. She talks about the plumbing because she's like,
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: can I get wet?
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: And she can get wet because she's crying.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: And he's like, I certainly can. I'm starting to feel
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: like Pinocchio over here. My clit's throbbing, Tiff.
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: I'm anatomically correct.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: And the tongues, the kissing, it's a little bit weird looking. Well,
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: it reminded me of the puppet sex in Team America.
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And the fucking shadows banging is so funny.
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: Have you got a rubber? Have I got a rubber?
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: I'm all rubber. I'm all rubber. Then they show Tiff's
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: nice ass. I thought you were plastic. The doll has
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: a nice ass.
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: Yeah yeah totally junkie like fucking puppet fucking is really
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: funny yeah it's shadow puppets fucking is amazing i thought
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: it was very cute and and i thought you replaced
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: tiff yeah kiss me i just thought it was cute
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: like it's very funny okay it's vulnerable murderers I.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: Mean, it really shows their human side, dude. Ironically enough.
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: Ironically enough. This, I loved. I thought this was so
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: funny when Jade calls David and she's like, David, I
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: think Jesse's a murderer. And he's like, wait, hold the line. David,
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: I think Jade's a murderer.
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, yeah. It's funny. And this is how... That
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: also drives the plot point of David later meeting up
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: with them. Because, like, otherwise, how do you explain that?
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: You know, like, he has to realize that in this moment,
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: they're both being paranoid. And because they're both close friends
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: of his, we've established.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: He's like, something's weird. They're not murderers. Yeah, he calls
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: them and goes, Joey! I need another picture of Manhance!
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: Who is this? Joey!
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Joey!
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: And then he goes to steal the picture from Mad Ants.
- 1:18:09Speaker 3: She almost ripped my arm.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: Out of the socket. Well, Jerry, you dated a 12-year-old, so... Jesus, dude,
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: you did. 17, 38. 17, dude. Imagine, dude, imagine you
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: are how old? Are you 38? I'm 17, 38, dude. Dude,
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: imagine 17... Imagine you dated a 17-year-old. Dude....
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: I look at 25-year-olds and I'm like, ugh. I react
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: to them like Chucky does. And then one of the
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: witches from the Three Witches movies. And Peggy Hill.
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: And Peggy Hill. She voices Peggy Hill. Yes. Comes in.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: to the room because she's a cleaning lady.
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: Yes she's very pretend hispanic.
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: A hundred percent you think so a hundred percent she's
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: for real oh yeah they do her hair up.
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: Yeah she didn't she didn't do a voice which.
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: Is good she didn't vasquez it yeah no have you
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: anyway we can and then for some reason um jesse
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: and jade run into the room well i would run
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: into the room if i heard screaming as the cleaning
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: lady finds the dead bodies and they take the dolls
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: and they run away because they're like another murder we're
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: gonna get framed for.
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: And then they have they have this exchange where jesse
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: is like jade i love you but this is too
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: much And her being like, would you stop pretending like
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: I'm crazy? You're the one murdering people.
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. They both realistically play
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: so well that they believe the other is a murderer.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: And then, out of nowhere, David appears. And that was
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: a little random. Like, where did he come from? Yeah.
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: I guess he drives that BMW. Well, he drove there.
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: He drove there because she says specifically, like, I'm at
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: this place, which I really appreciated watching it.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Cause I was like, it was written in, right? It
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: was written as yours.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: And him being like, it was all a terrible misunderstanding.
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: And I love that.
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: He almost fools himself that like, wait, are you suggesting
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: that Warren, the police chief, was actually a result, resulted
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: in the murders? And David is like, oh.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Something smells back here.
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: Like, what is it?
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: And it's so realistic, dude.
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: Him being like, and her being like, You left your
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: socks back there.
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, no, it's the socks.
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: He's so suspicious about it. Also, that triggers this feeling.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: That's the trigger feeling that he has because it's like,
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: why are they being so nonchalant about this disgusting smell?
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: I agree. And then he sees the dead body of
- 1:21:11Speaker 3: How I Met Your Father or 12 Rules I Need
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: About My Kids. And he gets the gun. And David
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: is like, oh, my God, these guys are murderers. I
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: was totally wrong. I fucked myself over. And Catherine.
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: Yeah. Dude, his realization, too, also is very realistic. It's incredible.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: He pulls the gun out to protect himself. He pulls
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: John Ritter's gun out. And yeah, oh man, the chain
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: of events that happens after this is also.
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: Is also some Final Destination logic.
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: There's definitely some Final Destination. Way better than any of
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: those movies. It's not even a competition, dude. And he's like, what,
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: you think we're murderers? Jesse is like, you think we're murderers?
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: And then he fucking cocks the gun. He's like, don't
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: fucking come close to me. He's fucking terrified of him, dude.
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: And it's like they all feel kind of betrayed.
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: He reveals the body to them of John Ritter. And
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: then the dolls. This is where the dolls come to life, dude. Oh, totally.
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: For everybody. But before that, we get a nice final destination.
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: Yeah. A chain of events, dude. Yeah.
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: Where Chucky and Tiff step up and they both have guns.
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: And it's very cute and hilarious that David steps out ahead.
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: He gets scared and steps out into traffic. Yeah. And
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: since they're on the highway, a fucking Armstrong pickup truck
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: just like... Not pickup truck. 18-wheeler just like fucking.
- 1:22:47Speaker 3: Decimates him?
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: Yeah, like eviscerates. Yeah. And they have to drive away
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: really quickly because the cops are coming.
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: And Katherine Hagel opens the door and so competently and professionally,
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: Chucky shoots out the wheels of a cop that's chasing him.
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: What does this scene remind you of, dude?
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: I mean, oh, Terminator 2. Yeah, that's true.
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: Again, for some reason, there's like a weird parallel between
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: Terminator and this series.
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: I mean, it's like good guy turned bad guy, anti-hero style.
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: It's a doll.
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: He's a kind of a doll.
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: Some of his battle damage looks a little like Terminator.
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: I mean, his Terminator battle damage is like half the
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: face from the last one.
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: And then.
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: We see that they're headed to New Jersey. And obviously
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: Jesse can't not recognize this amazing voice that Jennifer Tilly has.
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: Well, she called him on the phone, dude.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: He's heard it disembodied.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: I believe we've already met, sweet face.
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: That was good. It's still a little Mrs. Boovia. It's Mrs.
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: Boovia, yeah.
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: Mrs.
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: Boovia!
- 1:23:53Speaker 3: I'm trying to... It's too much thinking about where my
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: register is and I can't hit the.
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: You don't get the cue part. Yeah.
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: You gotta.
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: Because you're doing just the rasp, but you have to
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: put the cute part in.
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: Speaking of rasp, so how did you end up like this? Well,
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: it's a long story that if it were a movie,
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: it would take two to three sequels to explain.
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: I mean, I was so on board. I was not
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: on board.
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: I was on board.
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: I love it. I love self-referential junkie.
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: Self-referential junkie.
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: I think it's great. I don't care. Like... It is
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: that crazy and it is that ridiculous. But you always said, dude,
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: your whole point is that Chucky always earns it. Chucky
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: always does the thing, but then earns it by being
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: a little extra gross, a little extra vulgar, a little,
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: you know, like being a little adult in a way
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: that's like, ah, fine. We're not only for kids, but
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: it's funny and cute. It is.
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: But what I will say... It's a doll. No, but
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: what I want to say, the difference between the Chucky
- 1:24:59Speaker 3: series and the rest of the ones we've covered.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: The Child's Play series.
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: The Child's Play series is that there's a level of.
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: There's a level of distance from the other... murderers because
- 1:25:16Speaker 3: of the limitations of the size of the doll and
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: what you can do. So they have to be really
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: clever around that. This feels a little bit like, well,
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: 1996 was only two years before Scream was a huge hit.
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: Let's put in some more... Let's make it more self-referential.
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: That's where the Frankenstein stuff comes in. That's where the...
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: There's other movie references in this specifically that we talked
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: about earlier. But it's stuff like that that's a little
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: bit like... Okay, we get it, but these ones can
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: stand totally on their own.
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: And dude, I finally get to make a crossover reference.
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: Please.
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: Because they mention Martha Stewart in this, and she makes cookies,
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: which reminds me of Cookie Monster's most famous appearance on
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: Martha Stewart, where he says, Cookies! We're going to make cookies!
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: And she's... Martha is very impatient.
- 1:26:09Speaker 3: She didn't know.
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: How to act with the improvisation of the doll. Because
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: the guy's like locked in as the character, right?
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just the character.
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: So she could see him being annoyed there. It's amazing, dude.
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: You guys are definitely the right place at the wrong time.
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: I love Swedish meatballs. The only thing the Greeks knew
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: how to play with is each other's meatballs.
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: Swedish meatballs.
- 1:26:34Speaker 2: Yeah. another another brad dorff movie dude.
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: Um one thing that i do like is that on
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: the radio they say they have fingerprints of notorious murderer
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: charles lee ray's fingerprints.
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: Dude so they're gonna exhume the body yep uh and
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: oh but first we get the dishes dude can we
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: talk about the fucking dishes.
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to put that in there because
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: that happened before this scene.
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: Go ahead.
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: Well.
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: Now I love that the couples realize they can sow
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: chaos between each other.
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: That's great. But before that, we have to mention the
- 1:27:19Speaker 3: fact that Tiff is drawing herself onto Katherine Heigl's character
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: and making it like, I'm going to possess this one
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: and Chucky's going to possess the other one.
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: These are the bodies that they've decided they're going to steal. Yeah, totally.
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: And also the old lady and old man that they
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: steal the camper van. from or just in the closet.
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: They're like lying dead inside.
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Death doesn't matter in this movie. No. In these
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: movies now.
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: No.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: Death matters less. It mattered a lot in the last movie.
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: It mattered a lot in all of them.
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: Because a kid sacrifices himself. Yeah. But in this one,
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: it's a little, like, people are just like comically dead.
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Man, this puppet is so good.
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: The walking. Incredible, dude.
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: I do love the sewing chaos because there's a kind
- 1:28:07Speaker 3: of interesting thing that They set up earlier in the
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: movie where Jennifer Tilly offers this advice to Jesse's character
- 1:28:22Speaker 3: and is like, make sure to like... Wash the fucking dishes.
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Wash the dishes.
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: At least wash the dishes.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: Yeah, be a kind partner to your partner.
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: Because, you know, split things.
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: It's symbolic. It's about showing kindness. And it's symbolic in
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: this scene, too, because... chucky refuses to clean up the dishes.
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: But it's also bragging about the fact that you know
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: i just if i had a known marriage was such
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: a great gig you know it's like i never would
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: have waited to tie the knot and then that's where
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: he gets jesse gets the idea he looks at the
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: dirty dishes and he's like well, she's not much of
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: a housekeeper, you know? And it's like him leaning into
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: the misogyny that he knows Chucky is.
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: Yeah. And then... They use Chucky's... The reason they ham
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: up the misogyny is so that they can try the tooth.
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And then Katherine Heigl being like, you know,
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: you did all that work. You slaved over this. And
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: she starts whipping the fucking plates. What would Martha Stewart say?
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: Martha stewart amazing dude um yeah chucky dude.
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: Making cookies making swedish meatballs for a man who doesn't
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: even appreciate me oh and then like you know her
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: complaining about his plastic dick as opposed to a nice
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: hunk of wood and then chucky goes i'm making stupid
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: faces now.
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: Alex is making surprise Chucky face. But I have to say,
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: Chucky only makes Michael Powers face like, I think two
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: times in the movie.
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: I don't even think he makes, I think it's far beyond.
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: I think it's evolved because he's got a lot more...
- 1:30:16Speaker 3: um but he doesn't know it's not more circle anymore
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: because square circle that's because it feels like it was
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: a limitation of the doll whereas here there's much more
- 1:30:26Speaker 3: of a like what are these called.
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: Again you know the like the mandible or like i guess.
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: Cheekbones yeah where you where you chelsea smile somebody okay
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: he's got a little bit more like ability to like
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: uplift the smile.
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: And Yeah, but I miss Mike Power's face.
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: I miss Mike Power's face, too.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: That was when Chucky was the most outrageous and insane. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
- 1:30:54Speaker 2: He only makes it once. I guess I hope we
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: see it in this retell rewatch. And then.
- 1:31:01Speaker 3: Katherine Heigl fucking spins around and kicks Tiffany into the oven.
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: Roundhouse kicks Tiffany.
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: Yeah, the hot oven. And Chucky shoots at her and
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: Jesse throws him out the window. And he goes... That's
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: where he makes Michael Powers face, yeah. And then they
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: crash down into the... They crash off the highway and stuff.
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: And the place starts filling up with gas. And obviously
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: there's an electricity line flicking around.
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: I love that. It's amazing, dude.
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: And I felt really bad for Tiffany when she's like
- 1:31:39Speaker 3: slamming against the oven. That's like a horrible way to die.
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: It's a scary death, dude.
- 1:31:44Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the biting, she bites her ear.
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I love that with her fucking real teeth.
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: And he rips the doll off. And it's such real
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: doll physics.
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: Doll physics, yeah.
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: 100%. 100%. It's amazing, dude. And showing it in a
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: wide and in kind of an action shot the way
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: that they did with like all of the like lightning
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: going on in the background or like the like fucking electricity,
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: terminator electricity going off. It's amazing. And then, you know,
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: because there's like a gas leak and like it's going
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: to blow, right?
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: And then Jesse pushes Jade out the car and drops
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: the electricity and it all lights on fire and he
- 1:32:29Speaker 3: jumps out heroically.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: But Chucky's standing outside and he's holding Jade hostage. Yeah,
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: with the gun.
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: And there's another gun where a little tiny hand creeps
- 1:32:41Speaker 3: towards it and it's Tiff. And it turns out that
- 1:32:45Speaker 3: Jade has been taken hostage and classic carrying Chucky. So
- 1:32:50Speaker 3: all four have the classic carrying Chucky while holding hostage.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Chucky being held while holding someone hostage.
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: And then a close-up so that the person underneath the
- 1:33:01Speaker 3: doll can tap, use the Chucky's hand to tap her.
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: Totally. And then picking up.
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: Jesse being tipped by the hair and her making like, uh, uh, noises.
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: They're both holding each other's women as hostage.
- 1:33:19Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: He runs over.
- 1:33:22Speaker 3: And he gets to the.
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: Where the medical examiner alone is digging up Charles Lee
- 1:33:27Speaker 2: Ray in the middle of the night.
- 1:33:29Speaker 3: In the middle of the night, dude.
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: It's amazing, dude. In the middle of the night, I've
- 1:33:35Speaker 2: been walking in my sleep. In the middle of the night.
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: Now get down there.
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: And then Charles Lee Ray, obviously buried in the same
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: coat as the first one.
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: Of course, dude.
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: She takes the amulet. He's not going anywhere without that
- 1:33:54Speaker 2: iconic duster, dude.
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: Um.
- 1:34:00Speaker 3: And she, like, so casually opens this box, and, like,
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: the gross skeleton with the rats in it, and he's like, ugh,
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: I didn't really need to see that.
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: It's a funny line. But he is wearing the amulet,
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: and it's directly on the outside. It's perfectly placed on
- 1:34:19Speaker 2: the outside. It looks exactly like it did in that picture,
- 1:34:23Speaker 2: so that it shows us that he was buried exactly
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: the way he died.
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%. Um, and then they have like a Mexican standoff.
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: Rips off the necklace. You broke my fucking neck.
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: It's amazing, dude.
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So Jesse, Jesse is like, okay, we're going
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: to do a swap. Let's, uh, let's, let's do this.
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: You hurt him.
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: And then he lets her go. Jesse lets her go.
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: Holds the gun towards her face.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: Um, jeez.
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: And I love the line, why can't I ever get
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: it on with the real good guys? Because he's a
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: good guy doll.
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: Who says that?
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: He's a bad guy.
- 1:35:06Speaker 2: Who says that? Tiff says that. Tiff says that. Because
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: she wants Chucky to be romantic. Yeah.
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: But she's also, like, a lunatic. She's, like, very BPD. Like,
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: I would love Chucky if he just did these things
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: for me. But being a murderer is fine. You know
- 1:35:22Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: I mean, she's a femme fatale, dude. She's classic. It's true.
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: And they gave her, like, a little limp, which is
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: very funny. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing to show, like,
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: a horror... antagonist like woman character yeah it's like it's
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: not that many really and she's done so well like
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: she like she balances all of the like murderous rage
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: with like the like unhinged qualities like i think does
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: a pretty good job like being a pretty full-fledged character
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: also just like the casting of jennifer tilly is such
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: a this is.
- 1:35:53Speaker 3: Like a stroke fan of bound 100.
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: Like fully just loved the movie bound.
- 1:35:58Speaker 3: It feels like it it feels like that was like
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: there was like at least somewhat of a connection with
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: with just like having that sense of like, she fits
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: the best in it.
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: Like she fits. 100%.
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: It's like, she carries the, she carries the movie and
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: that's the, well, we'll get to it, but something, something
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: really interesting with you. Something really interesting about this part
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: of the movie is.
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: Is that Chucky has the magic to throw a knife, a.
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: Knife really far. But before then he goes, he, she,
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: she's like, catch me Chucky. And he, like, steps aside
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: and she falls and he goes, ugh. He's grossed out
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: by her. And then he magically throws the knife at Jesse.
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: Like, it lodges in his back, but I guess not
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: that deep because she just pulls it out and he's fine. Yeah,
- 1:36:51Speaker 2: for sure. He's mostly fine. He just has to be
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: a little, like, damaged for this scene.
- 1:36:54Speaker 3: Totally.
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: Absolutely. And then she, he, ugh.
- 1:36:59Speaker 3: Then Katherine Heigl throws the knife back towards Chucky, and
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: he's going to Hade, Dewey, Dembela them. So they cut
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: from there, him holding two guns, to them being tied up.
- 1:37:10Speaker 2: Johnny Woo guns, dude.
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: Johnny Woo guns. Ronnie Woo guns.
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: And I guess he's trying to do the Hade, Dewey, Dembela,
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: but how did he tie these people up?
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. that's why they cut away from it
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: yeah but this like now aerial shots of like just
- 1:37:29Speaker 2: little people.
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: In fighting each other i was like this is amazing
- 1:37:32Speaker 3: it's amazing.
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: Dude like it reminds me of remember the this is
- 1:37:36Speaker 2: gonna be very niche so i apologize to the listeners
- 1:37:39Speaker 2: but in the game it takes two when they do
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: that kind of more aerial looking yeah totally totally um
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: oh it's so good and This is where Tiff starts
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: having kind of like her second thoughts about the whole thing. Yeah.
- 1:37:57Speaker 3: She's like, I love you, Chucky. And he goes, I know,
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: which is the classic Star Wars line. And she's like,
- 1:38:06Speaker 3: we belong together forever.
- 1:38:09Speaker 2: Kiss me.
- 1:38:09Speaker 3: And then they kiss. He kisses the gross puppet.
- 1:38:14Speaker 2: And she pulls out the knife and stabs Chucky, dude.
- 1:38:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:38:18Speaker 2: And it's a different knife. It's first the serrated edge knife,
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: but then after it's like a butcher's knife.
- 1:38:25Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're right.
- 1:38:26Speaker 2: I guess they needed an insert.
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: They probably did.
- 1:38:31Speaker 2: Yeah chucky was like the most easy to kill in this.
- 1:38:40Speaker 3: One yes well it's like he's trusting her He's not
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: going to be killed by her.
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: It's more about the story than about the kill.
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: Yeah, it's much more about the evolution of his character.
- 1:38:52Speaker 2: And because they weren't tied very well, Katherine Heigl's able to... Yeah.
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: And then she quotes Frankenstein.
- 1:39:02Speaker 3: Get on the ropes, yeah. She quotes Frankenstein, and he's like, Why? Oh, Chucky,
- 1:39:09Speaker 3: look at us. Don't you see?
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: We belong dead.
- 1:39:13Speaker 3: It's like pretty good. It's pretty fucking good.
- 1:39:15Speaker 2: The fucking shovel fight.
- 1:39:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:39:18Speaker 2: The like getting whacked in the head with the shovel
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: and then throwing the dirt in the face and then
- 1:39:22Speaker 2: the aerial shot of the two little people in the
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: like Chucky's outfits. Yeah. Because you can do so much
- 1:39:28Speaker 2: with scale when you're shooting overhead like that.
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And like the size doesn't really matter when
- 1:39:33Speaker 3: you're that far away.
- 1:39:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: And she's like, we belong in hell. And I'm like, wicked.
- 1:39:39Speaker 2: That's wicked. It's cool. Yeah. She wants to join the
- 1:39:41Speaker 2: Necronomicon people, dude. She wants to join the Pantheon. Tiff's
- 1:39:46Speaker 2: asking to join the Pantheon of the Chucky series in
- 1:39:48Speaker 2: this scene. And he does that for her by stabbing
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: her through the body. Yeah.
- 1:39:55Speaker 3: Man, I want to see who these little people are.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: Because they did such a great job. They did such
- 1:39:59Speaker 3: a great job body acting these people.
- 1:40:01Speaker 2: It was really good. The coming up was really good.
- 1:40:06Speaker 2: And he pushes her off the knife. This is what
- 1:40:08Speaker 2: you're always referencing. Pushing someone off a knife. Honestly, I
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: will say.
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: I think, talking about violence, pushing somebody off a knife is, like,
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: feels so hardcore. It's very disrespectful. Yeah, just because it's like,
- 1:40:23Speaker 3: I'm not doing the work, I'm letting your body do
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: the work.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: And fucking kicking Chucky easily into the grave along with
- 1:40:34Speaker 2: his Charles Lee Ray body. And him yelling, and then
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: the little person acting of, like, the overhead shot of
- 1:40:41Speaker 2: him stepping Stabbing into the ground and trying to get
- 1:40:43Speaker 2: out of there. And the officer just... The fucking officer
- 1:40:47Speaker 2: barrel-chested numbnuts is like... What the fuck? And then she
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: just grabs the gun from the officer's hand and shoots Chucky.
- 1:40:58Speaker 3: After Katherine Heigl shoots Chucky, he goes... I'll be back!
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: I'll always come back! But dying is such a bitch. Yeah,
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: implying that... Yeah, you can never kill Chucky for real.
- 1:41:14Speaker 2: They want to find a way to bring him back.
- 1:41:16Speaker 2: That's the thing. I like that they kept the thread going.
- 1:41:19Speaker 2: There is a self-awareness that... The thread and needle that
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: they tied him with. Realistically, it goes.
- 1:41:25Speaker 3: Freddy can have the self-awareness meta shit. Because it's already
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: meta and it's Wes Craven. And then Chucky is very
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: close second. He could be self-aware in that way.
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: Much like Van Damme. much it's true much he's the
- 1:41:40Speaker 2: van damme of the series dude i'm telling you.
- 1:41:42Speaker 3: The van damme of the series because van damme almost
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: by by complete happenstance got to a way smarter idea
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: like a meta idea yeah that schwarzy could never pull
- 1:41:56Speaker 3: off no he's never been able to pull it off
- 1:41:57Speaker 3: well except for in last action hero but that movie's
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: a failure.
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: Yeah And then... And that's why he didn't do that anymore.
- 1:42:04Speaker 2: He was like, I'm not going to do this highbrow
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: stuff anymore. I didn't even understand that script, Maria. What
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: the fuck was going on?
- 1:42:11Speaker 3: Now I'm going to do AI. It's all about AI.
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: The courtroom, Schwartzy, where I'm a grandma. And I'm also...
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: I'm the kid. I'm the kid. We've all seen this kid.
- 1:42:21Speaker 2: He's got like the Zuma hair. We've all seen it.
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: But you know... Broccoli hair. They call it broccoli. For
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: some reason, I'm still the same old Schwartzy. Wherever you look...
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: It's the same old you. They have so much footage
- 1:42:31Speaker 2: of me, but they still manage to keep the old
- 1:42:33Speaker 2: face of Schwartzy, the current 2026 one. It's very strange.
- 1:42:39Speaker 3: What's very strange about this movie is that... Wait, hold on.
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: I just want to say one more thing about Chucky
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: being read out. he's also not worried about letting other
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: people be the main character in his own movie. That's
- 1:42:52Speaker 2: very true, yeah. Very right, very true.
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: Whereas Freddy, at a certain point, is very worried about
- 1:42:59Speaker 3: being the main character of the movie.
- 1:43:01Speaker 2: Of course, dude.
- 1:43:01Speaker 3: Of course. So much so that they built a movie
- 1:43:03Speaker 3: around a fake Freddy that's a demon that just takes
- 1:43:08Speaker 3: on the abilities of Freddy for some reason.
- 1:43:11Speaker 2: And, much like Van Damme, Chucky had a show way
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: before Schwartzy did.
- 1:43:15Speaker 3: Chucky did have a show way before Schwartzy. But also,
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: Stallone had a meta character with the Expendables. That's a meta.
- 1:43:25Speaker 2: That's true.
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: Because it's like, oh, I'm bringing all the guys together
- 1:43:28Speaker 3: or whatever. The franchise guys.
- 1:43:31Speaker 2: The cross-universe Stallone. He just wanted to be known as the, like...
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: action guy he wants to be known as the action guy.
- 1:43:40Speaker 3: Hey listen i i wanted to be a pacino but
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: they didn't give me that so i had to work
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: for something else i gave the people what they want
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: i gave the people what they want and they want
- 1:43:50Speaker 3: terrible movies and terrible shows they want ai slop.
- 1:43:54Speaker 2: With arnold they want they want rocky six is the
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: best one.
- 1:43:58Speaker 3: They they want republican propaganda with me I know Arnold.
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: He's on that liberal shit. He and I disagree about Trump.
- 1:44:07Speaker 3: Trump is my boy.
- 1:44:09Speaker 2: You know, because I got a lot of my trees.
- 1:44:10Speaker 3: He made me ambassador with Mel Gibson to Hollywood.
- 1:44:16Speaker 2: And then fucking Detective Numbnuts goes over to investigate.
- 1:44:23Speaker 3: And he just goes, well, Jesse and Jade, they didn't
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: do it. And that's the story I'm sticking to.
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: And they're like, sir, what?
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: Excuse me? Yep, it was Charles Lee Ray and a doll, guys.
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: And then, I'm going to let these kids go. They're
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: just going to escape. And then he goes up to the...
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: This was great. This old man jabbing at the doll,
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: being afraid. When he goes up to Tiffany.
- 1:44:57Speaker 2: He also touched her tit, dude, like Chucky did. And
- 1:45:00Speaker 2: then she, like, explodes blood onto his face because she's
- 1:45:04Speaker 2: having a baby, dude. The Chucky incubation period is.
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: Is almost as inconsistent as the alien incubation period. Another crossover.
- 1:45:14Speaker 2: I made me think of it totally, like... total alien
- 1:45:18Speaker 2: incubation period and we get also with with fucking freddy
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: lore we get a very freddy baby ready looking baby.
- 1:45:27Speaker 3: A hundred percent it's very freddy named later on after
- 1:45:31Speaker 3: after glenn or glenda the the amazing i.
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: Can't wait to get to that you can't yeah but
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: puppet jumps onto his face i love that bride of
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: chucky the the word chucky's spelt in viscera Yeah, it is.
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: The whole movie did a great job. I guess they
- 1:45:48Speaker 2: are really now leaning into queer lore, Chucky.
- 1:45:52Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: And we're going to get, from what I understand, much
- 1:45:56Speaker 2: more of that. Also, from what I understand, I spoiled
- 1:45:59Speaker 2: something for myself.
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: And we're not going to talk about it. No. Because
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: I'm still going to act just as surprised when it happens.
- 1:46:06Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen it.
- 1:46:08Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:46:09Speaker 2: Okay, so it's still going to be a gag. But...
- 1:46:12Speaker 2: What's also a gag, dude, is your interpretation of this movie,
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: or your enjoyment and liking of this movie. I feel
- 1:46:20Speaker 2: like you're really poo-pooing it, and I'd love to hear
- 1:46:24Speaker 2: your score and why. I'm going to give it a 6.5.
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: Of Dembalas? Of Dembalas. No, of Dembalas, I'd give it
- 1:46:34Speaker 3: a solid A, Dembalas. It feels like it's introducing new stuff.
- 1:46:40Speaker 3: I don't like Awake. I don't like Awake.
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: I hate it.
- 1:46:43Speaker 3: That's so strange to focus on.
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: I know, I know.
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: It's almost like a tick. It's just like, I don't...
- 1:46:51Speaker 3: Something about it, it's not rational.
- 1:46:53Speaker 2: It doesn't feel rational. Okay. It's just like, it's a
- 1:46:56Speaker 2: change that I'm like, did this work? Do I like this?
- 1:46:59Speaker 2: You're wincing at it. I'm wincing at it. Okay.
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: In terms of the stuff I really liked, I love....
- 1:47:07Speaker 2: Um jennifer jennifer tilly i love her tiffany is amazing
- 1:47:11Speaker 2: i don't like i think that tiffany was because tilly
- 1:47:15Speaker 2: they're referencing the.
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: Name maybe i don't like uh the soundtrack I don't
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: like a soundtrack with Chucky. I don't like it being
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: modernized in a way where it feels like it didn't
- 1:47:28Speaker 3: need to be modernized.
- 1:47:30Speaker 2: It does fall into the late 90s trope of new
- 1:47:34Speaker 2: metal movies, which I don't have a problem with anymore
- 1:47:38Speaker 2: because I've stopped resenting my own past and hating new
- 1:47:41Speaker 2: metal and realizing that new metal is actually good.
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. That's not really what bothers me about it.
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: It's just like, it doesn't really, it feels like it
- 1:47:49Speaker 3: doesn't fit. It feels like it would be a little
- 1:47:51Speaker 3: bit more timeless like the other ones.
- 1:47:54Speaker 2: They had to sell the soundtrack, dude. The movie had
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: to make money somehow. Yeah, I'm sure.
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know actually if it did make
- 1:48:00Speaker 3: money because it didn't get a sequel until like years later,
- 1:48:03Speaker 3: like seven or eight years later. Because Seed of Chucky
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: is the next one and it's set, or it's.
- 1:48:10Speaker 2: It was released in 2004. Okay. So that's like years
- 1:48:14Speaker 2: after this.
- 1:48:15Speaker 3: So it's like.
- 1:48:16Speaker 2: It's a bigger jump than the other ones.
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: It's a bigger jump and also... I mean, is it
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: a bigger jump?
- 1:48:24Speaker 2: The other one is.
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a bigger... It's a way bigger jump.
- 1:48:27Speaker 3: Because this one is like four or five years later.
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: And it's like... It comes out at a time where
- 1:48:33Speaker 3: sequels are like, ah, okay, we have this property.
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: Well, this other one was four or five years later too,
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: wasn't it?
- 1:48:39Speaker 3: Yeah, this one was... The Seed of Chucky was seven
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: years later. This one's 98. And then the other one
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: comes in 2004.
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: Right, right, right. And the last one was 92? 92, 91.
- 1:48:51Speaker 2: So that's also.
- 1:48:52Speaker 3: That's a huge jump. That's also seven years.
- 1:48:53Speaker 2: Seven years. Yeah. Okay.
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: So it's like, it's weird because it's like, It feels
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: like a mixed bag.
- 1:49:00Speaker 2: And from what I remember, they just get worse from here.
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: These ones?
- 1:49:05Speaker 3: Yeah, the next ones, they just get worse. And that's
- 1:49:07Speaker 3: why I think I'm feeling the way I am, because
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: I'm kind of.
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: You're anticipating.
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: Anticipating a lot. So that might have.
- 1:49:12Speaker 2: Colored a lot of.
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: You were enjoying it? Yeah, I felt a little bit
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: like my butthole was a little clenched, and I was
- 1:49:20Speaker 3: a little bit bored.
- 1:49:21Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:49:23Speaker 3: So that's why I'm giving it a 6 point... 6.7.
- 1:49:27Speaker 3: It's like I had enough fun, but I was also
- 1:49:29Speaker 3: a little bit like... It's a little bit boring. And
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: they're doing interesting stuff.
- 1:49:35Speaker 2: We have to start a new one. We have to
- 1:49:37Speaker 2: start a new ranking system, dude. Sure. How many amulets
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: do you give it?
- 1:49:42Speaker 3: Okay, sure. Well, I give this... Are we doing it
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: at five?
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what?
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: Retconning lore... Because the first two sequels did it, and
- 1:49:56Speaker 3: you could kind of wave it away, but so much
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: of this is based around the changed lore that.
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: I was a little bit like, Well, but it's also
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: the movie actively taking a different title.
- 1:50:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: So, I think it wants to differentiate itself.
- 1:50:15Speaker 3: It's a soft reboot. Yeah, that's what I feel. Whereas, like, with.
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: It feels intentional. It doesn't feel hem-fisted in a way
- 1:50:23Speaker 2: that's like.
- 1:50:23Speaker 3: I'm not saying that any of the choices were wrong.
- 1:50:27Speaker 3: I just don't like them personally. That's why I like
- 1:50:29Speaker 3: the rating systems. I like them separate because it's like.
- 1:50:32Speaker 2: How many TIFFs would you give it? You gotta give
- 1:50:34Speaker 2: it a 10 out of 10.
- 1:50:34Speaker 3: Oh, TIFFs is like fucking 10 out of 10. She
- 1:50:36Speaker 3: was the best part of the movie, easily.
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:50:38Speaker 3: Like, the doll, her performance, her sexiness, her voice, all
- 1:50:44Speaker 3: of that 100% works.
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: Doris, all of that 100% works. Yeah.
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: Um.
- 1:50:51Speaker 3: All the stuff with them feels appropriate. It's mainly the
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: music and the sort of side characters. They did a
- 1:51:01Speaker 3: lot of heavy lifting. The writing isn't very good.
- 1:51:05Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, the writing or dialogue stuff. I disagree. Yeah?
- 1:51:11Speaker 3: Tell me. Yeah, you tell me.
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: I disagree that the writing isn't good.
- 1:51:14Speaker 3: Um.
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: I think that it's very intentional. I think that, okay,
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. I want to push back
- 1:51:28Speaker 2: because I think that the movie did a lot of really,
- 1:51:33Speaker 2: a lot of things right. And I think that I
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: gave it a lot of good grace because of that.
- 1:51:38Speaker 2: I would say this is among my favorites, dude. Sure. Like,
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: it just, I just was like, If I wanted to
- 1:51:47Speaker 2: go more insane and outrageous, this is kind of where
- 1:51:50Speaker 2: I want a Chucky series to go.
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: Dude, I think that's totally fair. Honestly, like, I just... I.
- 1:51:59Speaker 2: Feel like I have just kind of a personal aversion...
- 1:52:02Speaker 2: To this one in particular?
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: To this one in particular, having watched them so sequentially. And, like,
- 1:52:08Speaker 3: initially I was like, oh man, I'm going to love
- 1:52:10Speaker 3: the second one. And I was like... The second one's
- 1:52:13Speaker 3: not so good. It's not as good as the first
- 1:52:16Speaker 3: one in my mind.
- 1:52:18Speaker 2: Close to the first one. Or the third one. And
- 1:52:20Speaker 2: then the third one is like.
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: I feel like I gave this one a lot of
- 1:52:24Speaker 3: credit when I was young, but I think this one
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: is actually the stupidest one.
- 1:52:27Speaker 2: The third one?
- 1:52:28Speaker 3: And then I watched it and I was like, oh,
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: this is actually fucking awesome. This is interesting in ways
- 1:52:33Speaker 3: that I felt like the second one fell flat for me. Yeah.
- 1:52:37Speaker 3: So I'm kind of interested in seeing Seeds of Chucky
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: because I remember watching it and hating it. So maybe
- 1:52:42Speaker 3: I'll watch that one and be like, Oh, this is
- 1:52:44Speaker 3: actually like really interesting.
- 1:52:46Speaker 2: It picks up where you may be.
- 1:52:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:52:48Speaker 2: Like, okay. So something that I'll say about the Chucky
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: movies is I do think that they're the fact that
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: they stick to a formula I think is really good
- 1:53:00Speaker 2: because it allows for it to be about the pivots
- 1:53:04Speaker 2: or about where, where the movie veers from, from the
- 1:53:07Speaker 2: source material. Um, because it's, holding on so wholeheartedly and
- 1:53:12Speaker 2: so wholesale to a kind of type of storytelling that
- 1:53:16Speaker 2: we just get to see scenarios play out differently. Yeah.
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: And directors play with different ideas and different emotions. Like
- 1:53:23Speaker 2: for instance, I think the third one had the highest
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: stakes and I think this one lacks in stakes, but
- 1:53:30Speaker 2: it makes up for in kind of like drama because
- 1:53:33Speaker 2: like it had like, this one had the most sort
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: of evolved emotional story arc. I would say, because it's
- 1:53:42Speaker 2: about couples. It's about relationships. It's about like examples of
- 1:53:48Speaker 2: good and bad relationships, all in this kind of like silly,
- 1:53:52Speaker 2: you know, you know, puppet fucking doll, scary murderer. But
- 1:53:56Speaker 2: like we get to explore these things in kind of
- 1:53:59Speaker 2: like a serious way, despite the movie being very not serious.
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: And I think where the movie does the Chucky playing
- 1:54:07Speaker 2: with stakes thing in this one is it's like, well,
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: there's stakes in the drama of the actual relationship. So
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: you're invested enough in the characters that the killing between
- 1:54:18Speaker 2: them matters. Whereas in the other one, it was more
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, the kid's going to die with live rounds.
- 1:54:24Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So like, I just feel
- 1:54:26Speaker 2: like it uses storytelling devices in like with different nuances
- 1:54:32Speaker 2: and colors, you know? Sure.
- 1:54:33Speaker 3: I mean, I.
- 1:54:34Speaker 2: Appreciate that about it for me seeing it. Sorry to
- 1:54:36Speaker 2: interrupt for me seeing it sequentially like this. I'm way
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: more like, oh, this is cool. I'm excited to see
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: where it kind of goes next.
- 1:54:46Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I still think all of that
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: stuff that you're saying is cool. It's just like balancing
- 1:54:52Speaker 3: out the discussion of what I think overall, whether it
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: be lore or direction or how people are trying things,
- 1:55:01Speaker 3: very much in a Saw kind of way or like
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: an Alien kind of way, where it's like you get
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: different flavors of different things in each of the sequels.
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, no, sorry.
- 1:55:13Speaker 3: But personally, when you say stakes, for me, the highest
- 1:55:17Speaker 3: stakes were always in the first one just because there's
- 1:55:20Speaker 3: very real emotional depth to the wants that every character has.
- 1:55:27Speaker 3: They're low stakes wants, but it becomes very high stakes
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: because it's like, oh shit, people are dying around me.
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: Whereas in the rest... Like, the stakes are kind of
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: folded in around... The storytelling. The storytelling of the kid,
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: rather than the characters themselves. But you're right. The characters
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: amongst themselves in this one, it is very much oriented
- 1:55:53Speaker 3: around the feelings around Tiff being like, I want to
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: get married.
- 1:55:58Speaker 2: I want to have.
- 1:55:59Speaker 3: Like, I went through that, too, where it's like, Leel
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: wanted to get married.
- 1:56:02Speaker 2: For a long time.
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: And I was just kind of like, I don't care
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: about this institution, right? And having that epiphonic moment of like,
- 1:56:11Speaker 3: oh yeah, maybe this want has gravity for this person
- 1:56:15Speaker 3: for a reason and I want to– Well, by.
- 1:56:18Speaker 2: You saying that, it's kind of like saying I don't
- 1:56:20Speaker 2: care about your feelings, right? I don't care that you
- 1:56:21Speaker 2: want to get married.
- 1:56:22Speaker 3: Exactly. And turning it around in a way where it's
- 1:56:27Speaker 3: like– Chucky being like, I am going to do this
- 1:56:32Speaker 3: for you, Tiff. It very much is like, I'm going
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: to do it. But also, he's a piece of shit, right?
- 1:56:40Speaker 2: But I'm excited.
- 1:56:41Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I'm very excited to keep watching them,
- 1:56:44Speaker 3: even though I remember them being bad. There's always kind
- 1:56:47Speaker 3: of fun stuff to talk about. And I'm giving it
- 1:56:52Speaker 3: the ratings that I'm giving kind of in comparison to
- 1:56:55Speaker 3: each other, rather than Um, as like individual movies that
- 1:57:00Speaker 3: I would watch in like kind of a, a canony
- 1:57:02Speaker 3: kind of way of like my own tastes. Cause like,
- 1:57:06Speaker 3: I do like these movies. I like all of them.
- 1:57:07Speaker 3: I can watch them fucking all the time. It's just
- 1:57:09Speaker 3: like the analysis part of my brain when I'm watching
- 1:57:12Speaker 3: shit like this and I'm like, okay, I got to
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: prepare for the podcast.
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: I got to write my notes. I have, I have
- 1:57:16Speaker 2: to have a good conversation with my brother about it.
- 1:57:19Speaker 3: And I feel like a good conversation involves not necessarily
- 1:57:23Speaker 3: you and me being divided on the result, because we
- 1:57:26Speaker 3: agree a lot on a lot of movies, but having
- 1:57:29Speaker 3: a level of tension where it's like, okay, there is
- 1:57:33Speaker 3: a movie analysis me that really, if I'm looking at
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: it as an individual movie, it's kind of a mess.
- 1:57:40Speaker 3: And within the series, it's also kind of a mess,
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: whereas the other ones are very hyper-consistent. Like, it feels
- 1:57:47Speaker 3: like it docks a few points for me.
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I think the time
- 1:57:50Speaker 2: gap did that, and the genre, or the storyline of
- 1:57:55Speaker 2: Chucky Gap did that as well. Yeah, for sure. It's
- 1:57:58Speaker 2: doing a lot of work there, because now we're setting
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: up another trilogy, right?
- 1:58:01Speaker 3: Totally.
- 1:58:01Speaker 2: A new trilogy, and it's a new focus. So, okay,
- 1:58:06Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it i'm gonna give it an 8.5
- 1:58:08Speaker 2: as a like a movie a chucky movie okay i'm
- 1:58:12Speaker 2: you know dembalas um maybe docks it a little bit
- 1:58:17Speaker 2: or dock it a little bit for no michael power's
- 1:58:20Speaker 2: face i i feel like it's essential it was like
- 1:58:23Speaker 2: less you know less michael power's face um so like
- 1:58:27Speaker 2: In terms of like Chucky's, like Damballa's, I would give it,
- 1:58:30Speaker 2: I would give it like a, probably like a six.
- 1:58:36Speaker 2: It's maybe, like, in some ways my least favorite Chucky,
- 1:58:39Speaker 2: even though he's amazing and, like, it's glorified, but it's
- 1:58:41Speaker 2: more about Tiff.
- 1:58:41Speaker 3: Are you talking about, like, Chucky as the character?
- 1:58:43Speaker 2: Yeah, like the character. But where Chucky loses points, Tiff
- 1:58:47Speaker 2: gets points, you know?
- 1:58:49Speaker 3: Yeah, there's, like, a balancing act that they do really well,
- 1:58:51Speaker 3: but it does, like, end up... You do end up being, like, well,
- 1:58:54Speaker 3: less this equals more this, but sometimes... It takes away
- 1:58:58Speaker 3: from more of this. You know what I mean? But also,
- 1:59:02Speaker 3: I never want you to feel like I'm judging your
- 1:59:05Speaker 3: scores or anything.
- 1:59:06Speaker 2: No, I don't feel that way.
- 1:59:07Speaker 3: I never think to myself, like, your score is illegitimate.
- 1:59:10Speaker 2: It's like, I don't care. It's your score. You like it.
- 1:59:13Speaker 2: I'm more... Like, sometimes I'm just more actually disappointed that
- 1:59:19Speaker 2: you didn't feel some of the same excitement that I
- 1:59:22Speaker 2: felt for something.
- 1:59:22Speaker 1: I do.
- 1:59:22Speaker 2: I feel.
- 1:59:23Speaker 3: Honestly, like, it's like, you know, when I talk about, like, 5.5
- 1:59:27Speaker 3: movies being some of the best movies on IMDb, where
- 1:59:30Speaker 3: it's like, this divides an audience in a way that like.
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: That makes it so good.
- 1:59:35Speaker 3: Interesting or exciting or whatever, you know what I mean?
- 1:59:38Speaker 3: It's just, the other ones do not divide. They're just
- 1:59:41Speaker 3: kind of like, from what I remember, bad. And they
- 1:59:45Speaker 3: changed the design of the Chucky doll, which is weird.
- 1:59:47Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: So be prepared.
- 1:59:49Speaker 2: All right, all right. I am. I'm prepared to a
- 1:59:52Speaker 2: certain degree. Like, I don't know anything about them, so
- 1:59:54Speaker 2: I'm excited just to, like, for the novelty of seeing
- 1:59:58Speaker 2: something new. Totally, totally. Seeing a new Chucky. Yeah, because
- 2:00:01Speaker 2: now I'm invested, right? And we're doing the series.
- 2:00:02Speaker 3: And then we'll watch the entire series, all three seasons.
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: I would love to. But I just want to say
- 2:00:08Speaker 2: something else about the romance and the storytelling, because I
- 2:00:13Speaker 2: do think it's important. I think that, like, seeing the
- 2:00:18Speaker 2: different side, the, like, making it about the love story
- 2:00:22Speaker 2: is such an interesting pivot. It almost feels like part
- 2:00:26Speaker 2: two in a way. Like, this has to be kind
- 2:00:28Speaker 2: of weird in a way so that, like, now this
- 2:00:32Speaker 2: new series can start. You're totally right.
- 2:00:35Speaker 3: Thinking about what we were talking about, I think, two
- 2:00:38Speaker 3: movies ago or a movie ago, it really does feel
- 2:00:41Speaker 3: like it's a couple of different movies into one and
- 2:00:44Speaker 3: that it could, this easily feel, it feels like it
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: could have been a show or something too. Uh, cause
- 2:00:49Speaker 3: like the, how the plot is structured, but ultimately, yeah,
- 2:00:54Speaker 3: I think, I think I'm, I'm really actually very excited
- 2:00:57Speaker 3: to continue cause I haven't seen those other movies in
- 2:00:59Speaker 3: so long. Uh, and some new characters crop up that
- 2:01:04Speaker 3: are very interesting. New choices crop up.
- 2:01:07Speaker 2: I'm excited to like seed. I'm excited to get to
- 2:01:10Speaker 2: the seed of it all. Um, yeah. So, you know,
- 2:01:13Speaker 2: like I, like, Oh, okay. This is another thing I
- 2:01:17Speaker 2: wanted to say. I think that the acting was, um,
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: really good. Okay. The acting was really good. The direction
- 2:01:26Speaker 2: was really good. All of the like romance stuff was
- 2:01:28Speaker 2: really good. The, the one thing that, that was kind
- 2:01:31Speaker 2: of bad is what you said, the writing. And like,
- 2:01:35Speaker 2: it just felt like, something about it felt a little
- 2:01:39Speaker 2: like it just had that like 2000s goofy tone yeah
- 2:01:44Speaker 2: in the way that like freddie versus jason like yeah
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: it worked less in freddie versus jason like.
- 2:01:49Speaker 3: It works way better in this but let me be
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: clear as to what i understand you saying because you
- 2:01:54Speaker 3: kept going from you like the writing to you this
- 2:01:57Speaker 3: you don't like the right and i want to just
- 2:01:59Speaker 3: make it clear because i understand what you're saying please
- 2:02:01Speaker 3: there are things that are lore-inclusive in this one that
- 2:02:08Speaker 3: you feel are developed from the previous movies.
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: Written in as your wife. When we say written in
- 2:02:14Speaker 2: as your wife, that's what that means.
- 2:02:16Speaker 1: And.
- 2:02:17Speaker 3: almost crescendo really nicely in this one. When we talk
- 2:02:21Speaker 3: about writing in this context, you're talking more about dialogue
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: being kind.
- 2:02:24Speaker 2: Of stupid or goofy.
- 2:02:26Speaker 3: Or like funny that's like trying too hard to be funny.
- 2:02:30Speaker 3: Sometimes it's really funny. Like John Ritter was fucking hilarious.
- 2:02:33Speaker 2: He was.
- 2:02:34Speaker 3: Needle Dick was funny.
- 2:02:37Speaker 2: And some of the acting was a little bit too
- 2:02:39Speaker 2: much Lachlan McAfee. It was Lachlan Monroe. Yeah, it was
- 2:02:43Speaker 2: a little bit like Man, Lachlan Munro in a scary movie.
- 2:02:48Speaker 3: Like, if you're going to make this movie seem.
- 2:02:51Speaker 2: Like Lachlan Munro should be cast in it, then you
- 2:02:54Speaker 2: better be casting Lachlan Munro. Dude, Lachlan Munro. Let me
- 2:02:57Speaker 2: tell you something about Lachlan Munro. Nobody's got the fucking
- 2:03:00Speaker 2: pudgy face with the spiky, with the like fucking salt
- 2:03:04Speaker 2: and pepper spikes. No, no, no. The like frosted tips. Listen,
- 2:03:08Speaker 2: Lachlan Munro. Lachlan Munro. On 16mm in an A24 style movie.
- 2:03:17Speaker 2: That would be a fucking 10 out of 10, dude.
- 2:03:21Speaker 3: That would be fucking awesome.
- 2:03:23Speaker 2: Of course, dude. We need the A24 era of Lockwood Monroe. 100%, dude. 100%.
- 2:03:31Speaker 2: He does need to come back, dude. A quiet serial
- 2:03:33Speaker 2: killer movie with Lockwood Monroe.
- 2:03:35Speaker 3: I think it would be great.
- 2:03:39Speaker 2: That kind of explores his divorce at the same time.
- 2:03:43Speaker 2: It can be a metaphor, dude. Anyway, yeah, that was great.
- 2:03:48Speaker 2: That was fun. I'm excited for the next one.
- 2:03:50Speaker 3: I'm excited for the next one, too. I hope it's good.
- 2:03:52Speaker 2: See you next week.
- 2:03:53Speaker 3: See you next week.