Latest / Booker Scott: Truth Be Told / Atlas the Book
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- 0:07Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern. It's 3 o'clock Pacific.
- 0:10Speaker 2: This is a president of action.
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- 0:14Speaker 3: Out Loud Talk Radio Studios.
- 0:16Speaker 2: If he says he's serious about something, he means it.
- 0:19Speaker 3: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
- 0:23Speaker 4: I'm Booker Scott. Thank you so much for joining us
- 0:25Speaker 4: tonight and every night. If you found us on a
- 0:27Speaker 4: podcast later, thank you for making that extra effort. I
- 0:30Speaker 4: appreciate it. Coming to the program now is a guy
- 0:33Speaker 4: who has been here before, and I had to look
- 0:35Speaker 4: this up. It's been a couple of years ago. It
- 0:37Speaker 4: was when Ross Ulbricht was trying to get out of jail.
- 0:41Speaker 4: Donald Trump came into office, and he made that happen.
- 0:44Speaker 4: At the time, Jordan Page was working in that effort.
- 0:47Speaker 4: He's been working on an effort in America for over
- 0:50Speaker 4: 20 years now. His music really had a theme against
- 0:54Speaker 4: what was going on in the Middle East when he
- 0:56Speaker 4: first started, but that's evolved as well. It gets into
- 0:59Speaker 4: our own liberties, and As a result of that, he
- 1:03Speaker 4: in some ways has attached himself or they have attached
- 1:07Speaker 4: their self to him, the Libertarian Party. He's been a
- 1:10Speaker 4: big part of that through the years. His name is
- 1:12Speaker 4: Jordan Page. Jordan, welcome back to the program. I can't
- 1:15Speaker 4: believe it's been a couple of years.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back, Booker. This is great. Great
- 1:19Speaker 2: to hear you again.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Well, you are working on something that we want to
- 1:22Speaker 4: talk about, and that is a movie. And I don't
- 1:26Speaker 4: know much about it, which is why we're here to
- 1:30Speaker 4: talk about it. It is a movie that is made
- 1:33Speaker 4: with artificial intelligence, which is something I'm very curious about,
- 1:37Speaker 4: and I actually wrote a book on artificial intelligence last year.
- 1:41Speaker 4: So let's start there. What was your motivation for doing this?
- 1:45Speaker 4: How did it come about, and what is it all about?
- 1:48Speaker 5: Sure.
- 1:48Speaker 6: Well, I guess the genesis of this is going to
- 1:51Speaker 6: be homeschooling. So my wife and I have seven kids,
- 1:57Speaker 6: and we've been homeschooling them for about 14 years. And
- 2:00Speaker 6: in 2020, she went back to get her master's in teaching.
- 2:04Speaker 2: And during that time.
- 2:06Speaker 6: She discovered really what they're teaching teachers through these education systems.
- 2:14Speaker 2: And it's really, really insidious.
- 2:16Speaker 6: Like we saw the agenda at work in the textbooks
- 2:20Speaker 6: and just the blatant indoctrination and just leftist wokeism from,
- 2:26Speaker 6: you know, the training programs for, for young teachers. And
- 2:31Speaker 6: my wife has been on this journey through, you know,
- 2:34Speaker 6: Liberty with me for, you know, the last 20 years.
- 2:36Speaker 6: So she's, she's not some 22 year old, you know,
- 2:39Speaker 6: just fresh out of, out of college, you know, getting
- 2:42Speaker 6: her master's degree.
- 2:44Speaker 2: But it was, it was really.
- 2:45Speaker 6: Sobering to, to see the, the, this dark agenda at work.
- 2:51Speaker 6: And we were both very convicted in the spirit to
- 2:54Speaker 6: do something about it. And so, we, through a lot
- 2:57Speaker 6: of prayer and research, we decided to build a company
- 3:02Speaker 6: that would serve the worldwide homeschool movement to facilitate, I
- 3:08Speaker 6: guess what you would call the streamlining of home education
- 3:12Speaker 6: to make it easier for families to, um, to teach
- 3:16Speaker 6: their kids at home because that's a hard job.
- 3:19Speaker 2: We've been through it. You know, we we've, we've.
- 3:21Speaker 6: Seen every iteration of homeschooling and it is extremely rewarding. And,
- 3:26Speaker 6: The success of our children is proof that it was
- 3:30Speaker 6: worth doing. But we wanted to make this easier for
- 3:35Speaker 6: other families than it was for us. And so we
- 3:37Speaker 6: built a platform called Firefly Education Network. And that's at fireflyedu.org.
- 3:45Speaker 6: Our mobile app is in Apple and Google Play stores.
- 3:49Speaker 6: And you can create an account right on our website
- 3:52Speaker 6: and get access to all kinds of tools and resources
- 3:55Speaker 6: and community. that will help you to make it easier
- 3:59Speaker 6: to educate your kids at home.
- 4:01Speaker 4: How is that going for you guys, Jordan? How is
- 4:03Speaker 4: that Firefly going?
- 4:04Speaker 2: It's going well.
- 4:05Speaker 6: We just launched in January, so we're still building. We
- 4:10Speaker 6: have a long way to go, but version one of
- 4:13Speaker 6: Firefly is really outstanding. We have an automated course builder
- 4:18Speaker 6: so that parents can create curriculum for their own kids
- 4:21Speaker 6: based on what their needs are and what their interests are.
- 4:25Speaker 6: We have a translation process that will translate course videos
- 4:30Speaker 6: from any language into any language while cloning the speaker's
- 4:34Speaker 6: voice and dubbing their mouth movements to match the new language.
- 4:37Speaker 6: So it's a very realistic presentation of you teaching something
- 4:41Speaker 6: in any language. We have an automated assistant slash tutor.
- 4:49Speaker 6: We have live teleconferencing within the platform so the teachers
- 4:53Speaker 6: can teach live classes. We have a vast library of
- 4:58Speaker 6: educational materials, videos, printable downloads, and so much more. There's
- 5:05Speaker 6: a whole community platform, a complete social media platform that's private,
- 5:09Speaker 6: that we're not selling your data. It's just for homeschool
- 5:11Speaker 6: families to meet each other, which is one of the
- 5:13Speaker 6: big things. We have a whole homeschool command center called
- 5:16Speaker 6: Firefly Compass that provides all the organizational tools that you
- 5:21Speaker 6: could want to keep accurate records and plan your lessons
- 5:25Speaker 6: and plan field trips.
- 5:26Speaker 2: And we have a Bible app.
- 5:27Speaker 6: It's just a wonderful, wonderful platform that is helping a
- 5:31Speaker 6: lot of people. But we're really trying to reach an
- 5:34Speaker 6: even broader audience, which is why we made the site
- 5:38Speaker 6: internationally accessible through being able to translate it into any language.
- 5:43Speaker 6: There's a button you click, you can translate the entire
- 5:45Speaker 6: site into every language you could want. So we're really
- 5:49Speaker 6: going after the entire worldwide movement, which is exploding in
- 5:53Speaker 6: a lot of different places outside the US.
- 5:56Speaker 2: And to that effort.
- 5:59Speaker 6: About two years ago, when we were really, we hadn't
- 6:02Speaker 6: even launched the platform yet, but we were building it
- 6:05Speaker 6: and we were building community around it. We had, I've been,
- 6:09Speaker 6: just full disclosure, I've been in the blockchain space really
- 6:13Speaker 6: since 2010, since it first started. I remember when Bitcoin was,
- 6:16Speaker 6: 33 cents. That's when I was first introduced to Bitcoin.
- 6:20Speaker 4: I think you and I had this conversation last time
- 6:22Speaker 4: you were on the program because I had the opportunity
- 6:25Speaker 4: to buy it at 50 and I didn't.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I see. I know you feel my pain Booker.
- 6:32Speaker 6: Well, back then, you know, I was part of the
- 6:33Speaker 6: Ron Paul Liberty movement when Ron Paul was running for president.
- 6:36Speaker 6: And I did a lot of, a lot of performances
- 6:39Speaker 6: to support his candidacy for president. And like between 2008
- 6:43Speaker 6: and 2012. And, we were really interested in ending the Fed.
- 6:51Speaker 6: And the end of Fed movement was a very strong
- 6:54Speaker 6: movement nationwide. And we had a lot of support internationally
- 6:56Speaker 6: as well. And Bitcoin represented a real pathway to actually
- 7:02Speaker 6: ending the Fed and circumventing their power by using a
- 7:07Speaker 6: peer-to-peer currency. And that was very, very appealing to me
- 7:12Speaker 6: and all of my all of my peers. And so
- 7:14Speaker 6: we were using Bitcoin and trying to get people to
- 7:18Speaker 6: use it. I would consider myself an early adopter. So
- 7:21Speaker 6: to that effect, fast forward years later, you had the
- 7:26Speaker 6: non-fungible token NFT phenomenon that lasted for a couple of years.
- 7:30Speaker 6: And we were interested in doing a collection of artwork.
- 7:35Speaker 6: And so I made 3,000 Firefly images, really beautiful AI artwork.
- 7:40Speaker 6: And I was going to, we were going to release this.
- 7:43Speaker 6: We still haven't released it. Well, we were going to
- 7:45Speaker 6: release it. And to that effort, I made six animated shorts.
- 7:50Speaker 6: And they were sci-fi, fantasy sort of style, little animated
- 7:56Speaker 6: short films, anywhere between two and 10 minutes long. And
- 8:01Speaker 6: they had, some of the NFTs from the collection were
- 8:06Speaker 6: in these animated shorts. And just to showcase that, the
- 8:09Speaker 6: beautiful artwork and using them as plot points and plot
- 8:13Speaker 6: devices and set pieces.
- 8:16Speaker 4: So Jordan, let me interrupt you real quick here. Just
- 8:19Speaker 4: so the audience that maybe doesn't know all the terminology
- 8:21Speaker 4: that you're using, you're using NFT. Tell everybody what NFT is.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Sure.
- 8:27Speaker 6: NFT stands for non-fungible token. So fungible means one is
- 8:30Speaker 6: like another, like one dollar is worth what another dollar is.
- 8:34Speaker 6: One Bitcoin is worth what another Bitcoin is worth. That's
- 8:36Speaker 6: called Non-fungible means it has its own unique intrinsic value
- 8:41Speaker 6: that's subjective. So you would think of a painting as
- 8:45Speaker 6: a non-fungible asset.
- 8:48Speaker 4: We used to see a lot of those. We used
- 8:50Speaker 4: to see a lot of those on social media. People
- 8:52Speaker 4: were creating their NFTs and selling them also. So what
- 8:57Speaker 4: is the process for making those shorts? You've got two
- 9:00Speaker 4: to six minute shorts. How long a process is that
- 9:03Speaker 4: for you and what does it take to make that?
- 9:06Speaker 6: You know, back then, the tools were really a joke
- 9:10Speaker 6: compared to what they are now. But back then, you know,
- 9:14Speaker 6: it might take me a few days or a week
- 9:16Speaker 6: or two, depending on the length. And, you know, coming
- 9:19Speaker 6: up with the stories, and they were all original stories
- 9:22Speaker 6: that I came up with. I would use programs like
- 9:27Speaker 6: MidJourney to generate images just based on an idea I
- 9:31Speaker 6: might have. And then based on that image that I got,
- 9:33Speaker 6: I would create a story around it. And so it
- 9:35Speaker 6: really was a really fun creative process when I first
- 9:38Speaker 6: got into working with AI image generation. And then I
- 9:42Speaker 6: discovered tools like Runway, ML, and Kling, and others. And
- 9:49Speaker 6: I was able to take those images and animate them
- 9:51Speaker 6: and create a workflow. Because I've been into video editing
- 9:55Speaker 6: for many years. And so I already had those skills
- 9:58Speaker 6: and continue to develop them. But then once the shorts
- 10:03Speaker 6: were done, I brought in a marketing guy who's now
- 10:06Speaker 6: become my chief marketing officer.
- 10:09Speaker 2: He's great. His name is Damien.
- 10:10Speaker 6: And Damien suggested to me that I should make a
- 10:14Speaker 6: seventh short to tie the six shorts together. Because he said,
- 10:19Speaker 6: nobody has anything else like this. NFT collections really need
- 10:24Speaker 6: a story. They need lore. They need people to care
- 10:27Speaker 6: about why this collection. And so I showed him the shorts,
- 10:33Speaker 6: and he says, these are great. You should tie them
- 10:35Speaker 6: together with a seventh one. And I said, that's a
- 10:37Speaker 6: great idea. And so I came up with a story
- 10:41Speaker 6: of a man named Atlas. And as a libertarian, of course,
- 10:45Speaker 6: people out there would be familiar with the book Atlas Shrugged.
- 10:48Speaker 2: By Ayn Rand.
- 10:49Speaker 6: And I love this idea of this young man named
- 10:52Speaker 6: Atlas and that he would go on a quest. And
- 10:54Speaker 6: so in three of the shorts are character driven. One
- 10:58Speaker 6: of them is a superhero named Lux Ethereum. And he
- 11:04Speaker 6: finds the Ethereum diamond in the short, which is this
- 11:08Speaker 6: artifact that turns him into a superhero. And of course,
- 11:10Speaker 6: it's based on the cryptocurrency and blockchain called Ethereum. And
- 11:14Speaker 6: then there is a medieval knight named named Sir Nakamoto
- 11:19Speaker 6: from Trent, Sir NFT. And Sir NFT battles the creature
- 11:24Speaker 6: from Jekyll Island, which if you're familiar with the book
- 11:28Speaker 6: by G. Edward Griffin, the creature from Jekyll Island is
- 11:32Speaker 6: a euphemism for the bankers that met on Jekyll Island
- 11:36Speaker 6: who conceived of the Federal Reserve System, which is like
- 11:39Speaker 6: this giant octopus that pervades all aspects of society worldwide.
- 11:44Speaker 6: It funds every war that we're involved in. It's It
- 11:47Speaker 6: has created every boom and bust that we've experienced since
- 11:50Speaker 6: 1913 when it was instituted. And so it's likened to
- 11:53Speaker 6: a giant Kraken. And so I made this Kraken for
- 11:57Speaker 6: this knight to fight. And when he defeats him, the
- 12:01Speaker 6: creature releases this artifact called the Genesis Block, which is
- 12:06Speaker 6: a reference to the first Bitcoin that was ever mined.
- 12:10Speaker 6: And so he's on the quest for the Genesis Block.
- 12:15Speaker 6: And then the third of those hero-driven stories was the
- 12:18Speaker 6: story of Decentrales and the Solana Stone. And so Decentrales
- 12:23Speaker 6: is an ancient Greek hero, which is a playoff of
- 12:26Speaker 6: Hercules and decentralization. And he has to fight this colossal titan,
- 12:31Speaker 6: and he has to find the Solana Stone in the
- 12:34Speaker 6: middle of a labyrinth, which plays into ancient mythology. He
- 12:39Speaker 6: has to fight different monsters and whatnot to find the
- 12:41Speaker 6: Solana Stone. And so I, I took all of that.
- 12:44Speaker 6: And then there were three non-character driven stories and before them, but,
- 12:49Speaker 6: but they were, but they were fun plot points and
- 12:51Speaker 6: I combined them all together. And as I, as I
- 12:54Speaker 6: did this, I realized this is a much bigger story
- 12:57Speaker 6: than I thought it was going to be.
- 12:59Speaker 2: And about a month to two months.
- 13:01Speaker 6: In, you know, I had about, you know, 30, 40
- 13:03Speaker 6: minutes of of story and there was just more story
- 13:08Speaker 6: I wanted to tell.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And so I kept going and as.
- 13:12Speaker 6: It grew and grew and grew, it got more and
- 13:14Speaker 6: more elaborate and the tools got better and the footage
- 13:19Speaker 6: got better. So it kept, it kept improving and I
- 13:22Speaker 6: ended up remaking this movie at least five or six
- 13:26Speaker 6: times as the tools improve because in AI animation progress
- 13:31Speaker 6: and in the, in like the, the technology progress, about
- 13:35Speaker 6: a month is akin to about 10 years in traditional
- 13:40Speaker 6: CGI filmmaking developmental progress.
- 13:44Speaker 2: And so it keeps getting better and better.
- 13:46Speaker 6: And so I've remade this film a number of times
- 13:49Speaker 6: to where now it's a thousand times better, literally a
- 13:52Speaker 6: thousand times better than when I first began. And it's
- 13:55Speaker 6: become this feature length film that we may honestly break
- 13:59Speaker 6: up into a series. We may break it up, but
- 14:02Speaker 6: depending on what distribution platform we end up, working with
- 14:05Speaker 6: if we you know if we work with netflix or
- 14:07Speaker 6: prime or some somebody like that we will we may
- 14:10Speaker 6: end up breaking it up into a series but.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Let me jump in real quick because we have gone
- 14:15Speaker 4: here for about 15 minutes we haven't even mentioned the
- 14:18Speaker 4: name of the movie the name of the movie is
- 14:21Speaker 4: the book of atlas the book of atlas is the
- 14:23Speaker 4: name of it and i want to play the first
- 14:26Speaker 4: part of your trailer You can go and find this
- 14:29Speaker 4: trailer on Vimeo, I know. It really will bring what
- 14:32Speaker 4: Jordan is talking about to life. I'll try to do
- 14:35Speaker 4: it some justice here on audio only. Of course, you
- 14:37Speaker 4: won't be able to see this, but maybe you can
- 14:39Speaker 4: get an idea of what this is all about. This
- 14:41Speaker 4: is the movie, The Book of Atlas.
- 14:45Speaker 7: Bro, are you watching this?
- 14:46Speaker 2: In a stunning turn of events, Lux Ethereum has just
- 14:50Speaker 2: arrived on the scene in a.
- 14:55Speaker 7: Hey man, let me call you back. When I was
- 15:01Speaker 7: talking to you earlier on the phone, the book just
- 15:04Speaker 7: jumped off the shelf by itself. And I felt this,
- 15:07Speaker 7: I don't know, pull to pick it up.
- 15:08Speaker 6: Okay, it says that these are artifacts from ancient times
- 15:12Speaker 6: that hold great power.
- 15:13Speaker 7: And there are old illustrations inside of creatures that look
- 15:17Speaker 7: just like that thing on the news. There's something else.
- 15:20Speaker 7: I've been having these wild dreams that make no sense.
- 15:24Speaker 7: And there's an illustration in the book of what I
- 15:26Speaker 7: saw last night.
- 15:28Speaker 2: That's insane, man. What do you think it means?
- 15:33Speaker 4: So there is a little taste of that trailer. Again,
- 15:36Speaker 4: go look for it. It's the book of Atlas. Now, Jordan,
- 15:39Speaker 4: I interrupted you. Please keep going. Talk about making this
- 15:43Speaker 4: and how long it is as a feature film.
- 15:45Speaker 8: Sure.
- 15:46Speaker 6: Well, right now, the running time is about three hours.
- 15:48Speaker 6: And so that I know that is long. But again,
- 15:50Speaker 6: we're going to watch the whole film on April 19th.
- 15:54Speaker 6: That is when the online premiere is. And then as
- 15:59Speaker 6: it grows and we get traction, we're probably going to
- 16:03Speaker 6: be breaking it up into episodes for an entire series.
- 16:07Speaker 2: We have a lot of plans for it.
- 16:09Speaker 6: But the process has been really amazing in terms of
- 16:13Speaker 6: discovering all of these different workflows and getting people getting
- 16:17Speaker 6: to a point where I'm going from generating more cartoonish
- 16:21Speaker 6: results to more very realistic results. I mean, as time
- 16:25Speaker 6: has gone on and these systems have been trained on
- 16:27Speaker 6: more and more video, they get more and more realistic.
- 16:31Speaker 6: And one thing that I think has been challenging is
- 16:34Speaker 6: to make the characters seem more human and, and, and
- 16:38Speaker 6: to seem, you know, relatable. But I think we're, we're,
- 16:41Speaker 6: we've very much gotten there.
- 16:42Speaker 2: There's a, there's a, I agree.
- 16:43Speaker 6: There's a phenomenon called uncanny Valley. I don't know if
- 16:46Speaker 6: you've ever, heard of this, but Uncanny Valley is the
- 16:50Speaker 6: sense that you're seeing something that doesn't seem quite human.
- 16:55Speaker 6: And I think it may be some sort of intrinsic
- 16:59Speaker 6: primal instinct that we have to identify something that is
- 17:05Speaker 6: not human. Maybe something in the supernatural to discern when
- 17:11Speaker 6: something is not right. And it gives you kind of
- 17:14Speaker 6: an uneasy feeling. And I think a lot of people,
- 17:17Speaker 6: have been flooded with AI slop all over the internet.
- 17:21Speaker 6: And it gives them that feeling that, you know, I don't,
- 17:24Speaker 6: I'm not sure like I want to look at that,
- 17:26Speaker 6: but that, but people who really take the time to
- 17:28Speaker 6: learn how to use these tools. I mean, you put this,
- 17:31Speaker 6: you put these tools in the hands of a creative person,
- 17:35Speaker 6: you know, amazing things can happen. And I'm, I'm just
- 17:37Speaker 6: one of those people. And I had a story to tell.
- 17:40Speaker 6: I wanted to tell a story about history that has
- 17:43Speaker 6: been forgotten. I wanted to, to, to, to teach people about,
- 17:47Speaker 6: you know, where, where all of these systems that control
- 17:50Speaker 6: their lives come from. I wanted to make a commentary
- 17:53Speaker 6: on society and what's happening in the world and, and,
- 17:57Speaker 6: and to, to be a red pill moment, um, at
- 18:00Speaker 6: the same time, uh, celebrating Bitcoin and crypto culture in general,
- 18:06Speaker 6: blockchain culture and the blockchain community worldwide.
- 18:09Speaker 2: And, And it's really a love letter.
- 18:11Speaker 6: To them because this community and Bitcoin in particular has
- 18:16Speaker 6: really changed my life.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And I've lived on Bitcoin for many, many years.
- 18:22Speaker 6: It's really been an important factor in my business and
- 18:26Speaker 6: in how.
- 18:27Speaker 2: I do things.
- 18:29Speaker 6: So I really wanted to tell the story of how
- 18:32Speaker 6: that all happened and remind people in a time when
- 18:34Speaker 6: crypto is really getting kicked in the teeth culturally and
- 18:38Speaker 6: in the markets. I wanted to remind people why we
- 18:41Speaker 6: got into this in the first place. This wasn't about
- 18:43Speaker 6: getting rich. It was about subverting an evil centralized system
- 18:47Speaker 6: that perpetuates wars and tries to control every aspect of
- 18:51Speaker 6: our lives. And so this movie is very much a
- 18:54Speaker 6: red pill movie to that degree.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And just really excited about it.
- 19:00Speaker 6: And so if you go to thebookofatlas.com, thebookofatlas.com, you can
- 19:06Speaker 6: watch this trailer that you were just playing. And get
- 19:09Speaker 6: a sense of the visuals, get a sense of the
- 19:11Speaker 6: story and some of the characters and just like the
- 19:15Speaker 6: scope of it, because it's really Booker. I mean, I'm
- 19:17Speaker 6: telling you, this is an epic, epic story through time.
- 19:21Speaker 6: You know, it goes back thousands and thousands of years
- 19:24Speaker 6: to the.
- 19:25Speaker 2: To the present. And there's there's an epic final battle.
- 19:29Speaker 6: One of the main themes in this is really a
- 19:31Speaker 6: big warning against unbridled, unchecked artificial intelligence and what can
- 19:36Speaker 6: happen if you give it too much power and you
- 19:39Speaker 6: don't put safeguards on and you don't train it in
- 19:42Speaker 6: the right way because the primary antagonist of the film
- 19:47Speaker 6: is a sentient alien AI from another world that's destroyed
- 19:50Speaker 6: its world. And then it escaped here and it wants
- 19:53Speaker 6: to do the same thing here. And so the heroes,
- 19:56Speaker 6: the crypto Avengers, if you will, are pitted between it
- 20:00Speaker 6: and its army of robotic assailants who represent centralized violence
- 20:07Speaker 6: and force and government They're pitted between that and the
- 20:12Speaker 6: creature from Jekyll Island, which is this gigantic evil kraken
- 20:15Speaker 6: that represents the international banking cartels. And these crypto avengers
- 20:20Speaker 6: are in the middle of this, having to defeat both
- 20:24Speaker 6: of these colossal enemies and everything that they represent. And
- 20:27Speaker 6: so that is really like I'm using a lot of
- 20:29Speaker 6: symbolism through mythic storytelling to tell a very real story
- 20:35Speaker 6: that has been going on and is still going on.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Incredible. The name of it is The Book of Atlas.
- 20:41Speaker 4: And you know, my book that I released last year
- 20:43Speaker 4: is about sentience and artificial intelligence. I'll have to share
- 20:47Speaker 4: some of that with you. The name of it, The
- 20:49Speaker 4: Book of Atlas. You can go to thebookofatlas.com. The date
- 20:54Speaker 4: to remember there is April 19th. That's when it's going
- 20:57Speaker 4: to be released online. Is that correct, Jordan?
- 21:01Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 21:01Speaker 6: We have actually bypassed.
- 21:03Speaker 2: So two things here, Booker, to this question.
- 21:06Speaker 5: One.
- 21:06Speaker 6: We have bypassed the Hollywood machine and taken advantage of
- 21:13Speaker 6: the tools that exist. And I've created a film that
- 21:15Speaker 6: would have cost $ 100 million to make with a small,
- 21:20Speaker 6: tiny fraction of that budget. And so we've bypassed their
- 21:24Speaker 6: permission and their gatekeepers entirely and made a film they
- 21:28Speaker 6: probably wouldn't have made. And then we've also bypassed all
- 21:31Speaker 6: of the streaming giants and we've created our own distribution
- 21:35Speaker 6: platform that is fully Web3 compatible and token gated to
- 21:40Speaker 6: where we can release any kind of digital or online
- 21:43Speaker 6: content through this. And with a complete secure payment system,
- 21:48Speaker 6: people can pay with fiat, they can pay with US
- 21:51Speaker 6: dollars using Square or PayPal or Venmo through the site,
- 21:54Speaker 6: but they can also pay with Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Solana.
- 21:58Speaker 6: And when they do, they're actually going to receive, which is,
- 22:03Speaker 6: and crypto people will know what I mean when I
- 22:05Speaker 6: say mint, they'll mint their own movie ticket as a
- 22:08Speaker 6: non-fungible asset that exists on the blockchain ledger and will
- 22:14Speaker 6: always be theirs as a collectible. And so when they
- 22:16Speaker 6: pay with Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Solana, they get a non-fungible
- 22:20Speaker 6: movie ticket. Folks that are paying with USD still get
- 22:23Speaker 6: the ticket. It's just not recorded on the blockchain. They
- 22:26Speaker 6: still watch it, and it's the same price. So, yeah,
- 22:29Speaker 6: we're very excited for people to watch this and to–
- 22:33Speaker 6: you know, dissect it and, and, and look for all
- 22:35Speaker 6: the hidden Easter eggs. I mean, if you're a historian
- 22:38Speaker 6: or if you care about history, if you're, if you're
- 22:40Speaker 6: a Liberty person, if you're a crypto person, I mean,
- 22:43Speaker 6: like there's so many Easter eggs in here. If you're
- 22:45Speaker 6: just a person who understands that something's wrong with, with
- 22:48Speaker 6: the world, you will, I think this movie will really
- 22:50Speaker 6: resonate with you. And it has some really powerful messages
- 22:55Speaker 6: in it that I think the world needs to hear.
- 22:58Speaker 4: And by the way, I think you just created a
- 23:00Speaker 4: sequel to, and that would be one of your characters
- 23:03Speaker 4: against Hollywood. It may take all of them against Hollywood,
- 23:06Speaker 4: but maybe you can do that in the future. His
- 23:09Speaker 4: name is Jordan Page. I know he's also working on
- 23:11Speaker 4: new music that has to do with worship and praise,
- 23:14Speaker 4: and I would love to hear that when it comes out, Jordan.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming back on the program.
- 23:19Speaker 4: I really do appreciate it. The name of the movie again,
- 23:22Speaker 4: The Book of Atlas. You can go to thebookofatlas.com. Look
- 23:25Speaker 4: for it April 19th. Jordan, thank you.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Thank you, Booker.
- 23:28Speaker 3: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
- 23:31Speaker 3: America Out Loud.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Someone asked me the other day, how do you even
- 23:36Speaker 4: get a sense of what's going to happen next?
- 23:38Speaker 1: It's hard.
- 23:39Speaker 4: I don't know that we can, the way the news
- 23:41Speaker 4: moves so fast. But you know what I told them?
- 23:44Speaker 4: I said, I've been checking out Poly Market a little bit.
- 23:48Speaker 4: It's extremely insightful. You're basically watching how thousands of people
- 23:52Speaker 4: are betting on outcomes. Political elections, big policy moves, even
- 23:58Speaker 4: events you wouldn't expect. It's kind of like a live
- 24:02Speaker 4: pulse on what the public actually believes. And you can
- 24:05Speaker 4: see trends before they even happen and before they even
- 24:10Speaker 4: make the mainstream news. For me, it's not about gambling.
- 24:14Speaker 4: It's about understanding the probabilities and where the momentum is shifting.
- 24:19Speaker 4: If you like or love the news like I do,
- 24:22Speaker 4: maybe you're a news junkie, but you want to take
- 24:24Speaker 4: a little deeper look at what people really think, go
- 24:27Speaker 4: to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com. I'm originally from Nashville, Tennessee.
- 24:48Speaker 4: I've mentioned that a couple of times. When I was
- 24:50Speaker 4: a young child, I was in Nashville and in Brentwood,
- 24:53Speaker 4: just south of Nashville. And my dad, for whatever reason,
- 24:57Speaker 4: I still to this day don't know, probably will never
- 25:00Speaker 4: find out. He's been dead for six years now, so
- 25:03Speaker 4: I won't be able to ask him at this time anyway.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Maybe one day. Maybe, maybe one day.
- 25:09Speaker 4: But I never found out why exactly he wanted a
- 25:11Speaker 4: farm because he is from Chicago. He was from Chicago, Illinois,
- 25:15Speaker 4: had no experience on a farm, but that's what we did.
- 25:18Speaker 4: We bought 11 acres and it was in a bedroom
- 25:20Speaker 4: community called Murfreesboro, Tennessee. It's about 25 miles southeast on
- 25:26Speaker 4: the way to Chattanooga from Nashville. And that's where I
- 25:29Speaker 4: finished growing up. Elementary school, middle school, high school, even
- 25:32Speaker 4: went to college there. Back then it was a university town.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee State University is there. It was a sleepy
- 25:39Speaker 4: little town, really. It was a small community. It was
- 25:42Speaker 4: a great place to grow up. I loved it. And
- 25:44Speaker 4: I still have a lot of friends there. I still
- 25:47Speaker 4: follow them on Facebook. And I also follow the local
- 25:50Speaker 4: radio station. And that's where I'm going to go with
- 25:52Speaker 4: this segment. Because of the program that was on Sunday
- 25:56Speaker 4: night that caught my attention. Have you heard about 287G?
- 26:01Speaker 4: Do you know what that is, Section 287G of the U.S.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Immigration and Nationality Act? Well, it authorizes the Department of
- 26:08Speaker 4: Homeland Security to deputize selected state and local law enforcement
- 26:14Speaker 4: officers to enforce federal immigration law. So in Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
- 26:20Speaker 4: which is Rutherford County, Which, by the way, it has
- 26:24Speaker 4: grown a lot since I grew up there. We moved
- 26:27Speaker 4: there in 1976, I believe. And like I said, it
- 26:30Speaker 4: was a sleepy little town. A nice little country town
- 26:34Speaker 4: is what it was. Now it's huge. It has exploded.
- 26:37Speaker 4: Nashville has exploded, and so has Murfreesboro and Rutherford County.
- 26:42Speaker 4: It is now the third largest county in the state
- 26:44Speaker 4: of Tennessee. You have Memphis, Shelby County, Nashville, Davidson County.
- 26:49Speaker 4: They're one and two. And then you have Rutherford County.
- 26:51Speaker 4: Murfreesboro is number three. actually larger than Chattanooga and larger
- 26:56Speaker 4: than Knoxville, a couple of other big cities there in
- 26:58Speaker 4: the state of Tennessee. The Rutherford County Sheriff is Mike Fitchew,
- 27:03Speaker 4: and he has said that he would never use his
- 27:05Speaker 4: deputies to go after illegal immigrants. That's what he said.
- 27:09Speaker 4: But then there was a little change in the last
- 27:12Speaker 4: couple of weeks there in Rutherford County in Murfreesboro with
- 27:15Speaker 4: this Section 287G. Sheriff Fitchew has agreed to this 287G,
- 27:20Speaker 4: which would allow when they arrest an illegal immigrant and
- 27:25Speaker 4: there is a detainer for them by ICE, that they
- 27:28Speaker 4: will hold the illegal immigrant. To me, it's a no-brainer.
- 27:32Speaker 4: It makes perfect sense. Why would you not be for that?
- 27:36Speaker 4: If this were a regular criminal, let's say that it
- 27:39Speaker 4: was someone that had committed murder in Montana, Would Sheriff
- 27:44Speaker 4: Fitchew and his deputies not hold that person for extradition
- 27:49Speaker 4: to Montana?
- 27:50Speaker 1: Of course they would.
- 27:52Speaker 4: So if you have an illegal immigrant that is a criminal,
- 27:55Speaker 4: which at this point, that's really all Donald Trump and
- 27:58Speaker 4: the DHS and ICE are rounding up. They're not rounding
- 28:01Speaker 4: up children in schools. That's not what they're doing. They're
- 28:05Speaker 4: not rounding up just illegal immigrants at this point. They're
- 28:09Speaker 4: rounding up the criminals, the ones that have murdered, the
- 28:13Speaker 4: ones that have raped. That's who they're trying to get
- 28:15Speaker 4: off the street. For the life of me, I can't
- 28:17Speaker 4: understand why anyone wouldn't want that. Just because they're illegal immigrants,
- 28:23Speaker 4: for some reason they want to give these people a pass.
- 28:25Speaker 4: That's what the left is saying. And when I went
- 28:27Speaker 4: to Facebook and I came across this story, it was
- 28:30Speaker 4: a live radio program in my former hometown of Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
- 28:36Speaker 4: And Murfreesboro, Tennessee, Rutherford County, voted heavily for Donald Trump
- 28:41Speaker 4: in the 2024 election. It was 60-40. 60% Donald Trump,
- 28:46Speaker 4: 40% for Kamala Harris.
- 28:48Speaker 3: Close to it.
- 28:49Speaker 4: It was a blowout. There's no doubt that Rutherford County,
- 28:52Speaker 4: Tennessee is a red county. It is also a Donald
- 28:57Speaker 4: Trump county. It is a MAGA county. That's really what
- 29:00Speaker 4: it is. So when I came across this story and
- 29:04Speaker 4: this show, I was shocked at what I heard. I'm
- 29:07Speaker 4: going to play some of this for you because I
- 29:09Speaker 4: think it's important for us to understand the other perspective
- 29:12Speaker 4: and what the other side is saying. Because what they
- 29:15Speaker 4: are saying is nothing like I'm saying. I say this
- 29:19Speaker 4: all the time about illegal immigrants. It's time for them
- 29:22Speaker 4: to go. We need to get these criminals out of here.
- 29:24Speaker 4: It needs to be done now. So when people start
- 29:29Speaker 4: talking the way these guys did and Really what they're
- 29:33Speaker 4: doing is calling Sheriff Fitzhugh onto the carpet for making
- 29:36Speaker 4: an agreement with the Homeland Security in this 287G. They
- 29:41Speaker 4: don't want their deputies to hold criminal illegal aliens in
- 29:46Speaker 4: their jail. But I was shocked at what I heard
- 29:49Speaker 4: on this local small radio station in Murfreesboro, Tennessee from
- 29:55Speaker 4: Ed Raymer is the guy's name who does the show
- 29:57Speaker 4: on Sunday night. Along with him was the Democrat National
- 30:02Speaker 4: Committee chairman for Rutherford County. His name is Matt Fee.
- 30:07Speaker 4: And here he is talking about what happened two weeks
- 30:09Speaker 4: ago when Fichu said, we're not going to do this.
- 30:13Speaker 3: We're not going to.
- 30:13Speaker 4: Have our deputies going after illegal immigrants. And then the
- 30:18Speaker 4: activism that they created to get people to show up
- 30:22Speaker 4: to a council meeting, county government meeting, to try to
- 30:27Speaker 4: make their voices heard. so that the sheriff would not
- 30:30Speaker 4: do this agreement. Here is the DNC chairman in the
- 30:33Speaker 4: county of Rutherford County, Tennessee. His name is Matt Fee.
- 30:37Speaker 9: I think I noticed a social media post from someone
- 30:40Speaker 9: that said, hey, Rutherford County is now pending a 287G
- 30:45Speaker 9: agreement with ICE. So just so everybody knows, the 287G
- 30:51Speaker 9: is basically like it gives local police ability to do
- 30:59Speaker 9: work for ICE in, you know, either as themselves or
- 31:03Speaker 9: in the jail or whatever. You know, so having noticed that,
- 31:10Speaker 9: you know, that was the first time it had come up.
- 31:12Speaker 9: I don't know how long it had been pending, but
- 31:13Speaker 9: basically you can go to ICE's website and you can
- 31:15Speaker 9: see all of the, you know, law enforcement agencies that
- 31:20Speaker 9: are pending any kind of agreement with ICE or all
- 31:23Speaker 9: the ones that are actually active. And it was noticed,
- 31:26Speaker 9: excuse me, Rutherford County is now showing pending for a
- 31:30Speaker 9: warrant service officer. So I mentioned, hey, if you want
- 31:36Speaker 9: to say something about it, there's a public safety meeting
- 31:38Speaker 9: coming up on Monday. Let's go there and say you
- 31:42Speaker 9: want to talk about the sheriff's report. And so that's
- 31:46Speaker 9: how we got there. There was multiple groups involved, especially
- 31:51Speaker 9: Remix TN. They're like an immigrant advocacy group. Um, and
- 31:59Speaker 9: they did a lot of work with coordinating and getting
- 32:01Speaker 9: people to sign up for public comment at that meeting.
- 32:04Speaker 4: So they go to the public meeting and they make comments.
- 32:08Speaker 4: Everybody that spoke was against this two 87 G. If
- 32:12Speaker 4: you go to ice.gov slash identify and arrest. If you
- 32:19Speaker 4: go to that website, you will see every state and
- 32:22Speaker 4: County and city that is involved with ICE and the
- 32:27Speaker 4: 287G agreement. I can tell you this. I'm looking at
- 32:30Speaker 4: the map now. California, Oregon, Washington, and Illinois. Those are
- 32:36Speaker 4: four states that have no agreement with ICE. That is
- 32:40Speaker 4: not surprising. You also have a little bit of Delaware,
- 32:44Speaker 4: a little bit of Vermont, the entire state of Connecticut,
- 32:47Speaker 4: the entire state of New Jersey. All of those states
- 32:50Speaker 4: have no agreement with ICE. which means these illegal immigrants
- 32:55Speaker 4: that are committing crimes and have committed crimes where they
- 32:59Speaker 4: came from are running free in these states, and these
- 33:01Speaker 4: states are doing nothing to help Donald Trump and ICE
- 33:05Speaker 4: get these people out of here. But I want to
- 33:06Speaker 4: go back to the radio show on 1450 WGNS in Murfreesboro.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Listen to the comments now from Ed Raymer as they
- 33:15Speaker 4: continue the conversation.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Here's the rub. At the public safety meeting... As we mentioned, everyone,
- 33:22Speaker 1: those that spoke, all against. Now, what we're talking about
- 33:25Speaker 1: with ICE, we're talking about the guys that are coming
- 33:27Speaker 1: in with the mask, and they don't have to have
- 33:32Speaker 1: a reason, to my knowledge. They can come in and
- 33:34Speaker 1: just pick you up and take you off and, I guess,
- 33:37Speaker 1: do what they want.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Okay, that's a lie. That's not true, and I don't
- 33:41Speaker 4: even know why Ed Raymer on this radio show is
- 33:43Speaker 4: saying that. He doesn't know what he's talking about, and
- 33:46Speaker 4: he probably shouldn't be talking about it. Both of these
- 33:49Speaker 4: guys are leftists.
- 33:50Speaker 1: They're Democrats.
- 33:51Speaker 4: Again, in a city and a county that was heavily
- 33:55Speaker 4: favoring Donald Trump in the 2024 election. The things that
- 33:59Speaker 4: he says are important to understand from the perspective of
- 34:03Speaker 4: the left and what they are saying against Donald Trump
- 34:07Speaker 4: and the things that his administration is doing. You hear
- 34:10Speaker 4: him say that these ICE people are wearing the masks.
- 34:14Speaker 4: You know, it's obvious that they watch MSNBC because that's
- 34:18Speaker 4: the narrative that they are teaching people over there. Well,
- 34:21Speaker 4: they're wearing masks. I've covered it on this show before
- 34:24Speaker 4: so that they are not killed. It's for their protection
- 34:28Speaker 4: is what it's for. Let's go back to Ed Raymer.
- 34:30Speaker 4: He is the host of the show. Let's let him
- 34:32Speaker 4: run his mouth a little bit more.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Trump has given them where to do this. They're going
- 34:37Speaker 1: to fool around. Someone's going to get hurt. And basically,
- 34:43Speaker 1: we don't know who these people are.
- 34:45Speaker 5: Right.
- 34:46Speaker 1: To my knowledge, they're a bunch of thugs.
- 34:48Speaker 4: He's talking about ICE there. We don't know who these
- 34:51Speaker 4: people are. Well, let me tell you who they are.
- 34:54Speaker 4: Ed Raymer and WGNS. They are federal law enforcement officers.
- 35:01Speaker 4: They have gone through training. They have gone through background checks.
- 35:04Speaker 4: They are wearing masks so that other people don't try
- 35:07Speaker 4: to hurt them because leftist, liberal, stupid Democrats in some
- 35:11Speaker 4: of these cities have tried to hurt them. They have
- 35:14Speaker 4: doxed them. Politicians have doxed them. So why wouldn't they
- 35:19Speaker 4: wear a mask? They are not thugs. They are federal
- 35:23Speaker 4: law enforcement officials. And what you're talking about, Ed Raymer
- 35:26Speaker 4: and WGNS, is dangerous. You are dangerous. Not Donald Trump
- 35:32Speaker 4: and not ICE.
- 35:33Speaker 9: So here's the thing, right? We were talking about this
- 35:36Speaker 9: a little bit earlier before we came on the air.
- 35:40Speaker 4: And listen how much Matt Fee uses the word right.
- 35:44Speaker 4: I talked about it last week, about a linguistic tie-down.
- 35:47Speaker 4: When someone isn't confident in what they're saying or they're
- 35:50Speaker 4: trying to sell you something, they will use right in
- 35:53Speaker 4: a rhetorical way. This guy has a real problem with it.
- 35:57Speaker 4: He can't say two sentences without saying right, which is
- 36:01Speaker 4: a tie-down to further the conversation on something that you
- 36:04Speaker 4: don't know what you're really talking about and you're just
- 36:06Speaker 4: trying to sell something to someone.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Here he goes.
- 36:09Speaker 9: The agreement that was pending at the time was for
- 36:13Speaker 9: a warrant service officer. To my knowledge, what that means
- 36:17Speaker 9: is that if someone is brought into the Rutherford County
- 36:21Speaker 9: Jail and ICE has a civil warrant against that person,
- 36:26Speaker 9: then Rutherford County Sheriff's deputies can serve that warrant on
- 36:30Speaker 9: that person in the jail.
- 36:32Speaker 5: Right.
- 36:32Speaker 9: Whereas before, ICE would have to come and do that themselves.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Right.
- 36:37Speaker 9: So even though it may be, let's call it the
- 36:40Speaker 9: least of the bad options in these 287G agreements with ICE,
- 36:46Speaker 9: to me, the fact of the matter is that Rutherford
- 36:48Speaker 9: County is entering into an agreement with ICE. I don't
- 36:52Speaker 9: care what model it is. I don't care that you're,
- 36:56Speaker 9: you know, whether it's the one that sends deputies out
- 37:00Speaker 9: into the community to do, you know, task force work.
- 37:03Speaker 9: I don't want that one. I don't want them doing
- 37:06Speaker 9: anything on ICE's behalf.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Why not?
- 37:08Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you?
- 37:09Speaker 4: Because these are criminals that Donald Trump and ICE are
- 37:12Speaker 4: getting out of this country. They are bad people. These
- 37:15Speaker 4: are people that murdered Lake and Riley, Nungaree. And I
- 37:18Speaker 4: could go on, list the names over and over. It
- 37:22Speaker 4: happened for years. It's still happening every day. Why wouldn't
- 37:25Speaker 4: you want these people out of your country? Do you
- 37:27Speaker 4: want them to live next door to you, Matt Fee,
- 37:30Speaker 4: Ed Raymer on WGNS Radio? You want these people for
- 37:34Speaker 4: your neighbors? They committed rapes. They molested children, murderers. You
- 37:40Speaker 4: don't know who they are. Joe Biden never knew who
- 37:43Speaker 4: they were. None of these people were vetted. So now
- 37:46Speaker 4: ICE is making an agreement with a town like Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
- 37:50Speaker 4: Rutherford County, Tennessee, and the sheriff there, Mike Fitzhugh. I
- 37:55Speaker 4: actually went to high school and middle school with both
- 37:58Speaker 4: of his daughters. They don't want to make an agreement
- 38:01Speaker 4: there in Rutherford County with that the jail will just
- 38:04Speaker 4: hold these bad guys that ICE has a detainer on.
- 38:07Speaker 4: They would rather have them released onto their streets. And
- 38:11Speaker 4: these people think they make any sense. They think Donald
- 38:14Speaker 4: Trump is the bad guy, that ICE is the bad guy.
- 38:18Speaker 4: I want you to understand this perspective because this perspective
- 38:21Speaker 4: is out there all over the country. If it's there
- 38:24Speaker 4: in a place like Murfreesboro, Tennessee, it's everywhere. Let's go
- 38:29Speaker 4: on with it.
- 38:29Speaker 9: Because it's just like what you said. You know, we
- 38:31Speaker 9: see these videos and reports every single day right now
- 38:36Speaker 9: where ICE is just disappearing people off the street for
- 38:41Speaker 9: almost no reason whatsoever except for the fact that they
- 38:46Speaker 9: have the color of their skin.
- 38:47Speaker 4: A couple of things here. I don't recall seeing videos
- 38:51Speaker 4: of ICE disappearing just anybody off the street. And it's
- 38:55Speaker 4: not because of the color of their skin either. It's
- 38:58Speaker 4: because the crimes that they have committed, they are criminals.
- 39:02Speaker 4: I'll say it again. They are criminals. And these people,
- 39:05Speaker 4: Ed Raymer and Matt Fee, they are lost. They have
- 39:09Speaker 4: no idea what they're talking about.
- 39:11Speaker 9: Doesn't look like they should be here.
- 39:13Speaker 5: Right.
- 39:13Speaker 6: Right.
- 39:14Speaker 9: Or not that they shouldn't be here, but that, you know, they're. No,
- 39:17Speaker 9: they don't think they should be here. They just assume.
- 39:21Speaker 9: They just assume that they're, you know, undocumented.
- 39:24Speaker 1: And ladies and gentlemen, I want to say this.
- 39:26Speaker 9: I don't want.
- 39:27Speaker 1: To put any words in the chairman's... of the Democrat
- 39:30Speaker 1: Party's mouth. I don't mean to do that. But I'm
- 39:33Speaker 1: telling you, this bunch is dangerous. This bunch.
- 39:36Speaker 4: He's talking about you. He's talking about Donald Trump. He's
- 39:40Speaker 4: talking about ICE. He's talking about everybody that would have
- 39:44Speaker 4: illegal immigrants taken out of this country. That's who they're
- 39:49Speaker 4: talking about. In a small town, well, it's grown. It's
- 39:53Speaker 4: bigger than it used to be, but it's still a
- 39:55Speaker 4: good old boy network. In a small place like Murfreesboro, Tennessee,
- 40:00Speaker 4: that voted for Donald Trump 60% compared to 40%, this
- 40:05Speaker 4: is the narrative that is being fed to that community
- 40:08Speaker 4: there on a local radio station. It's amazing to me.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Someone is going to get hurt. Someone's going to get killed. Now,
- 40:18Speaker 1: I know you say, oh, well, that's Murfburg, Tennessee. Let
- 40:22Speaker 1: me tell you something. They didn't think it would happen
- 40:25Speaker 1: in Washington, D.C. either, but it's happening.
- 40:27Speaker 4: They didn't think it would happen in Washington, D.C., but
- 40:30Speaker 4: it is happening. What is he talking about? Well, he's
- 40:33Speaker 4: talking about the National Guard coming into Washington, D.C. You see,
- 40:39Speaker 4: from the left and their perspective, this is tyranny. They
- 40:43Speaker 4: believe that Donald Trump is a dictator. That's what they
- 40:47Speaker 4: think about Orange Man. And you hear it here in
- 40:51Speaker 4: these voices of Ed Raymer and Matt Fee on WGNS radio.
- 40:57Speaker 4: That's what they believe. That is the narrative. That is
- 41:00Speaker 4: the information that they are putting out. They are putting
- 41:03Speaker 4: out propaganda. This is not truth. This is propaganda.
- 41:08Speaker 1: And now there's talk of Chicago. And now major cities,
- 41:12Speaker 1: and I've been watching the news this weekend, and I know, okay,
- 41:15Speaker 1: the cable news things, I know they need something to
- 41:17Speaker 1: keep them on the air, but many of the states,
- 41:19Speaker 1: now they're looking at redistricting because of the very problems
- 41:23Speaker 1: we're talking about right now.
- 41:25Speaker 4: So he thinks that the leftist states like California are
- 41:30Speaker 4: talking about redistricting, and there's nothing to redistrict in California
- 41:34Speaker 4: and Illinois. They have gerrymandered those states so badly that
- 41:39Speaker 4: Conservatives have absolutely no voice in Congress when it comes
- 41:43Speaker 4: to those states because they have already gerrymandered all they can.
- 41:47Speaker 4: The left is talking about redistricting in those states as
- 41:51Speaker 4: a response to what Texas is doing. It has nothing
- 41:54Speaker 4: to do with what Ed Raymer thinks it has to
- 41:56Speaker 4: do with.
- 41:57Speaker 1: That's what's causing all this.
- 41:58Speaker 9: I mean, they don't want to hear from the other side, right?
- 42:00Speaker 4: Oh, no.
- 42:01Speaker 9: I mean, the redistricting is because they know— No, we've
- 42:03Speaker 9: got people right here in this county who don't want
- 42:04Speaker 9: to hear from us. They know that people— are upset
- 42:08Speaker 9: with the way that things are going, right? The economy, right?
- 42:13Speaker 9: Your prices are going up.
- 42:14Speaker 4: Where are prices going up? Where are they going up?
- 42:19Speaker 4: The gas prices are down. I saw that it's down
- 42:21Speaker 4: to $ 2. 75 now. Eggs, they're down to $ 1. 95 a dozen.
- 42:27Speaker 4: Where are the prices going up? They get on the
- 42:30Speaker 4: radio and they lie. That's what they're doing. But I
- 42:33Speaker 4: think it's interesting perspective anyway, and I wanted to bring
- 42:36Speaker 4: that to you. I was really shocked when I heard it.
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- 44:37Speaker 4: I guess most of us remember the FISA court, the FISC,
- 44:41Speaker 4: the FISA court. The 702, everybody was talking about that
- 44:44Speaker 4: for a while and what all of that was and
- 44:47Speaker 4: what it allowed our government to do, which ultimately was
- 44:50Speaker 4: to spy on a presidential campaign and that of Donald
- 44:54Speaker 4: Trump going back to 2016. And you have to tie
- 44:58Speaker 4: in the Russian hoax that we are now seeing that
- 45:01Speaker 4: was a hoax. And we always knew that because we
- 45:04Speaker 4: relied on reporting from people like John Solomon and Sarah Carter.
- 45:10Speaker 4: Catherine Herridge at the time of Fox and went to
- 45:12Speaker 4: CBS and now is independent. Laura Logan. Those were the
- 45:16Speaker 4: people that we depended on to get our information from.
- 45:19Speaker 4: We assumed and we believed our discernment, our wisdom said
- 45:23Speaker 4: that they were right. And were they right? Well, as
- 45:26Speaker 4: it turns out, when it comes to the FISA abuse,
- 45:29Speaker 4: there were investigations afterwards in the House of Representatives. There
- 45:33Speaker 4: were also investigations by the Inspector General of the Department
- 45:37Speaker 4: of Justice. And they came to the same conclusion, that
- 45:40Speaker 4: there was abuses in the FISA court and with the 702.
- 45:44Speaker 4: I would point out that it was actually Article 1,
- 45:48Speaker 4: not Section 702, that allowed the FISA court and the
- 45:52Speaker 4: FBI to spy on Carter Page. You remember that name?
- 45:56Speaker 4: You have to go back in history. This is a
- 45:58Speaker 4: long time ago now, as we start connecting these dots
- 46:01Speaker 4: with what John Solomon said in a podcast. And when
- 46:05Speaker 4: I heard this, I literally just about fell off the
- 46:09Speaker 4: couch in hearing how his journey started. Because it was
- 46:14Speaker 4: John Solomon that went on Sean Hannity back in 2017,
- 46:17Speaker 4: I guess. And he did a story on the abuse
- 46:19Speaker 4: of the 702. And when he got home that night
- 46:26Speaker 4: from wherever he was, at work or whatever, at 1045
- 46:30Speaker 4: at night, he was met by a couple of government agents.
- 46:34Speaker 4: And that's the story that I'm going to get to.
- 46:36Speaker 4: But to get there, I think we need to set
- 46:38Speaker 4: everything up, and we have to remember the Russian hoax
- 46:42Speaker 4: and the fact that it was paid for by the DNC,
- 46:45Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton, and even to a greater extent, it was
- 46:48Speaker 4: someone in the Clinton circle, Charles Dolan, a longtime attorney
- 46:53Speaker 4: for the Clintons, who hired Igor Danchenko to create that
- 46:57Speaker 4: pee story. Remember the story of Donald Trump peeing on
- 47:01Speaker 4: a prostitute? That was completely made up by Igor Danchenko,
- 47:05Speaker 4: who was later arrested by the Durham investigation. He was acquitted,
- 47:10Speaker 4: but he was only arrested for lying because opposition research
- 47:14Speaker 4: isn't a lie, but he lied to investigators is what
- 47:17Speaker 4: the accusation was, but the court found him innocent. They
- 47:20Speaker 4: acquitted him of those charges. There was also Kevin Clinesmith,
- 47:24Speaker 4: the FBI attorney, that he also lied. And he did
- 47:30Speaker 4: plead guilty to that. And he didn't go to prison,
- 47:34Speaker 4: but he was put on probation. So there were a
- 47:37Speaker 4: couple of arrests that came out of that and what
- 47:41Speaker 4: was the Russian hoax. But how did we find out
- 47:44Speaker 4: about it? Well, we found out about it through John
- 47:46Speaker 4: Solomon and Sarah Carter, mainly. They were on Fox News
- 47:51Speaker 4: almost daily. I always wondered how they got their information
- 47:54Speaker 4: because to me, because I believed in what they were reporting,
- 47:58Speaker 4: that their information was good and it was coming from
- 48:01Speaker 4: great sources and they really had some good sources somewhere,
- 48:06Speaker 4: somewhere they had some good sources. And now as Donald
- 48:09Speaker 4: Trump comes into office and we are seeing that the
- 48:12Speaker 4: Russian hoax was a complete lie, where it started, who knows?
- 48:18Speaker 4: It appears that it started with Barack Obama, John Brennan,
- 48:21Speaker 4: James Clapper, Comey, that possibly this was a whole color revolution,
- 48:28Speaker 4: you know, to overthrow a government. Is that what this is?
- 48:32Speaker 4: Was it the CIA that was involved with it? You know,
- 48:35Speaker 4: there's so many different ways we can go about when
- 48:38Speaker 4: we consider this. And then you also have to consider, okay,
- 48:43Speaker 4: did John Solomon actually have good information? Were we part
- 48:47Speaker 4: of a PSYOP? Does everything that I believe, is it
- 48:50Speaker 4: true or not? And that's sort of the question, isn't it?
- 48:56Speaker 4: We believe what we want to believe. Was I fooled?
- 49:00Speaker 4: Did I believe John Solomon and Sarah Carter because I
- 49:03Speaker 4: wanted to believe them?
- 49:07Speaker 1: It's interesting.
- 49:08Speaker 4: Let's first go to John Solomon here. Let's listen to
- 49:11Speaker 4: this audio. This is the audio that blew me away
- 49:14Speaker 4: in his experience in what happened to him on the
- 49:18Speaker 4: night that he first started talking about about the 702
- 49:21Speaker 4: FISA abuse. And we're going to get into that in
- 49:24Speaker 4: just a minute. But I want to get into what
- 49:26Speaker 4: the FISA court is in Section 702, just to refresh
- 49:29Speaker 4: your memory as we set all of this up. Foreign
- 49:33Speaker 4: Intelligence Surveillance Act is FISA. And it was enacted in
- 49:37Speaker 4: 2008 as part of the FISA Amendment Act. This is
- 49:41Speaker 4: the Section 702. It authorizes the U.S. government to conduct
- 49:45Speaker 4: warrantless surveillance of non-citizens located outside the United States for
- 49:51Speaker 4: foreign intelligence purposes. Now, this would be for things like terrorism,
- 49:56Speaker 4: so that we can prevent another 9-11 from happening. It
- 50:00Speaker 4: allows agencies like the National Security Agency to target foreigners
- 50:05Speaker 4: abroad and collect their communications, such as emails, phone calls,
- 50:10Speaker 4: text messages, often by compelling U.S.-based tech companies to provide
- 50:16Speaker 4: the data. So that's where some of the abuse can
- 50:20Speaker 4: come in. That's the slippery slope. And as you remember,
- 50:24Speaker 4: the 702 was up for debate, and whether they were
- 50:26Speaker 4: going to continue it in Congress or not, They ended
- 50:29Speaker 4: up passing it. I had Jason Fick on this program
- 50:32Speaker 4: who was suing the government and taking it all the
- 50:34Speaker 4: way to the Supreme Court over Section 702. Now, the
- 50:38Speaker 4: claim that Section 02 was abused to spy on Trump
- 50:41Speaker 4: campaign primarily stems from broader concerns about the FISA misuse,
- 50:47Speaker 4: though the specific surveillance of the Trump campaign involved a
- 50:50Speaker 4: different part of FISA, and that is Title I, not
- 50:53Speaker 4: Section 702. Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have
- 50:58Speaker 4: alleged that FISA was used to illegally spy on his
- 51:03Speaker 4: 2016 presidential campaign, particularly citing their surveillance of campaign aide
- 51:09Speaker 4: Carter Page. So let's go back to Carter Page real quick.
- 51:14Speaker 4: The FBI obtained a FISA warrant under Title I to
- 51:18Speaker 4: surveil Carter Page, who was working in the Trump campaign
- 51:22Speaker 4: back in 2016, based on suspicions of his ties to
- 51:28Speaker 4: Russian operatives. So they then, Comey and the FBI, who
- 51:33Speaker 4: went and lied before the FISA court, along with Kevin Clinesmith,
- 51:38Speaker 4: he was one that made a change in one of
- 51:41Speaker 4: those FISA applications. They were saying that he was tied
- 51:44Speaker 4: to Russia. So they were tying Russia in way back
- 51:48Speaker 4: then in the campaign in 2016. Remember the Alpha Bank
- 51:52Speaker 4: story that was at Trump Tower? That's a part of
- 51:54Speaker 4: this too. Alpha Bank, a Russian bank that had nothing
- 51:58Speaker 4: to do with Donald Trump. But they used that to
- 52:00Speaker 4: get into Trump Tower to also spy on the Trump campaign.
- 52:05Speaker 4: So when Donald Trump would say they're wiring Trump Tower,
- 52:08Speaker 4: they were wiring Trump Tower. The fact is, our government
- 52:13Speaker 4: spied on Americans, and our government also abused their power
- 52:19Speaker 4: in spying on an opposition political party and campaign and candidate,
- 52:24Speaker 4: and that was Donald Trump. And that's what Donald Trump
- 52:26Speaker 4: said from the beginning. And who was out front pushing
- 52:29Speaker 4: the stories was John Solomon, Sarah Carter. They were instrumental
- 52:34Speaker 4: in it. Real quick, if bad guys wanting to get
- 52:39Speaker 4: rid of the evidence, would they have not burned the
- 52:42Speaker 4: burned bags? Why were the burned bags left? It's a
- 52:45Speaker 4: question I asked last month on this program. Why did
- 52:49Speaker 4: they leave the burned bags if they intended to destroy
- 52:53Speaker 4: the evidence? Or was it the good guys, the white hats,
- 52:56Speaker 4: leaving information for it to be found by the Trump administration? Mr.
- 53:01Speaker 5: President, I will be the first to brief you. once
- 53:04Speaker 5: we have that information collected. But you're right, we are
- 53:07Speaker 5: finding documents literally tucked away in the back of safes
- 53:12Speaker 5: and random offices in these bags and in other areas,
- 53:16Speaker 5: which again speaks to the intent of those who are
- 53:18Speaker 5: trying to hide the truth from the American people and
- 53:21Speaker 5: trying to cover up the politicization that was led by
- 53:25Speaker 5: people like John Brennan and James Clapper and others that
- 53:29Speaker 5: have caused really immeasurable harm.
- 53:31Speaker 2: To the American people and to our country.
- 53:33Speaker 5: Great job.
- 53:34Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 53:35Speaker 1: We look forward to hearing it.
- 53:36Speaker 4: And we look forward to hearing it also. Real quick,
- 53:39Speaker 4: before we go to the break, 702 has done some
- 53:42Speaker 4: really good things. It's not just bad. It was used
- 53:47Speaker 4: by bad people and abused. But it has found terrorists
- 53:51Speaker 4: through the years. And I think the country needs something
- 53:54Speaker 4: like this. It just doesn't need bad people abusing it.
- 53:58Speaker 4: What it does need are good, honorable people, women and
- 54:02Speaker 4: men in the government who happen to realize that what
- 54:07Speaker 4: they are doing is trying to overthrow a presidency, an election,
- 54:11Speaker 4: and then create an insurrection. We need those people in
- 54:15Speaker 4: our government, and it appears that we have them, and
- 54:18Speaker 4: it appears that our wisdom, our discernment was right in
- 54:22Speaker 4: following John Solomon and Sarah Carter's in what they brought
- 54:27Speaker 4: to us as the truth.
- 54:29Speaker 3: There is only one truth. You've been listening to The
- 54:32Speaker 3: Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.