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Fraud Friday: RazzleCON: The Rapping Crypto Criminal w/ Jabari Davis · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's popping? Congregation? Is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming Scam, Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob froll Scam, Come rob that froll Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: What's popping, Congregation, Welcome back to another installment of Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, And I'm
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  Speaker 1: here y'all giving you all the energy I have left.
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  Speaker 1: Your girl had an operation. Maybe I'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in the beginning, because I'm always what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm what. Yes, I'm excited, I'm very excited, ecstatic. We
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  Speaker 1: have a member, a self proclaimed member of the congregation
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  Speaker 1: here today, which I always love to hear. He say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a good snapping time, honey.
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  Speaker 1: He's a talented writer, host, and producer. He hosts the
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  Speaker 1: jab Step podcast on nineteen Media Group Network. Also, he's
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  Speaker 1: the content producer for Miles and Jack Got Boosties an
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  Speaker 1: NBA podcast. Yes, okay, Congregation, please welcome Jabbari Davis to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Hey lazy, thank you so much for having me. Like,
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  Speaker 3: like I mentioned to you in the beginning, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: member of the congregation, so this is an honor.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I love this. I was saying I had. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you know what uterine fibroids r Jabari.
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  Speaker 1: I had their benign tumors. A lot of black women
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  Speaker 1: have them. It's like over eighty percent of black women
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  Speaker 1: get them. But maybe you like don't notice you have them,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe you do. But mine one was the size
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  Speaker 1: of like a key. We they love to explain everything
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  Speaker 1: in terms of fruit, so they were really really big.
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  Speaker 1: And I have like a small procedure just to cut
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  Speaker 1: off the blood supply, called it andization. And then that
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  Speaker 1: shit went left. And I woke up one day and
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  Speaker 1: like could barely walk. And so of course, my dumb
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  Speaker 1: ass I waited like three days, like literally canceling recordings,
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  Speaker 1: like hobbling around my house, like crying to get to
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  Speaker 1: my kitchen from my bedroom. And you know, strong black women, child, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: a scam. And I'm trying to be weak, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to be a weak black queen. Okay, lip riss.
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  Speaker 1: But so I finally went to the hospital. My good
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  Speaker 1: friend married drove me to the hospital, shot out to Mary,
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  Speaker 1: and when I got to the hospital, I went to
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  Speaker 1: see her side. And I was supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: boogie hospital, but I don't know where, but I said,
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  Speaker 1: be having her emergencies. But it most certainly wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: emergency room that I was in because I waited writ no, lie,
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  Speaker 1: I waited five hours to get to the VIP of
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. I was waiting out in the lobby.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you didn't hit him with do you know who
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  Speaker 3: I am? Or any of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yah, though the healthcare professionals are so overworked. I was
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  Speaker 1: just trying to be as nice as And it got
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  Speaker 1: to a point where, like when I hobbled up hour
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  Speaker 1: four and a half, they were like, Okay, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get you. Win. We're gonna get you when we know
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  Speaker 1: you've been waiting. We know you've been waiting because you
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  Speaker 1: know so I've never been in the er that long.
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  Speaker 1: So after a while, when you first get into the er,
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  Speaker 1: like they kind of make it cute, like you get in,
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  Speaker 1: you go in they check your blood pressure, they ask
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  Speaker 1: you what your symptoms are. They kind of assess if
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  Speaker 1: you need to be moved up the list. So then
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  Speaker 1: they send my ass back to the waiting room. And
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  Speaker 1: because I have been there for so many hours, once
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  Speaker 1: they called my name again and then I was like
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  Speaker 1: prices right like like I was like, it's my time.
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  Speaker 1: And then I, you know, I hobbled up there like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: please treat me, and they're like, oh no, we're just
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  Speaker 1: doing a vital check. Bruh. I was there so long
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  Speaker 1: they started doing checks to just make sure you alive,
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  Speaker 1: and but you're not dying in the er waiting room.
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  Speaker 1: They're just coming and check your vitals. Like she still live?
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  Speaker 1: Put her back, put her back over there, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like damn. So then I started thinking I was
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  Speaker 1: my homegirl was like, man, maybe we should drive me
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  Speaker 1: to the end of the block and then I could
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  Speaker 1: call an ambulance and then I could come in here
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  Speaker 1: on so we will we will shit like on the
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  Speaker 1: stretcher and I was gonna come here, you know, hollering
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  Speaker 1: like my neck, my back, my back and my back.
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  Speaker 1: And we laughed about this and kind of just sat
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  Speaker 1: there for maybe like half an hour more, and then
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  Speaker 1: somebody came in on a stretcher from the ambulance and
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  Speaker 1: I was so jealous. I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: look at them, like on that stretcher, they about to
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  Speaker 1: go straight back to VIP.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when you got honestly, I'm here for that energy.
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  Speaker 3: That's when you got to get your true scam guidess
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  Speaker 3: on if they are, if they are not matching what
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  Speaker 3: you need, take it in your.
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  Speaker 1: Own hands exactly. That's what I thought to do. But
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  Speaker 1: then so this woman comes in on the stretcher. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sizing her up because I'm so jealous she about to
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  Speaker 1: get that healthcare that I want. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she don't looked like she's dying that much. Damn. I
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  Speaker 1: should have really did it. I should have pulled over.
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  Speaker 1: So why they rolled this woman in? And then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the stretcher like takes a turn in
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  Speaker 1: front of me in the chairs that I'm sitting out, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: Why did they unload this woman off the ambulance stretcher
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  Speaker 1: into a chair in the waiting room.
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  Speaker 3: They No, we're not falling for the okie dope. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: not y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Shaking her off like like she a cookie on a
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  Speaker 1: hot pan and somebody, wait right in here.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't got that much of an emergency, not the
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  Speaker 1: uber ambulance. I was so hurt for her and for me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, well, did you was he still there waiting
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  Speaker 3: when you finally got back, or was she able to
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  Speaker 3: you know, kind of slider weigh in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have I should have better hate
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  Speaker 1: her energy because I didn't clock her much longer than
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  Speaker 1: that to see if she went before me. But I
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  Speaker 1: do know that they did dump her out in a
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  Speaker 1: chair and make her way, and I was like, damn, Sis,
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  Speaker 1: you had it all added up. You had you had
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  Speaker 1: the plan fully ready, came in on the stretcher, and
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  Speaker 1: they still put you in the waiting room. I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: anyone can get it right. Well, I mean, the hospital's overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not complaining about the people who work in the
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  Speaker 1: host but I was just like, damn, it was a bitch.
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  Speaker 1: But finally I got in. I got a cat skin
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, girl, we're gonna get some surgery.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I have work to do.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, that's cute, but you need a
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  Speaker 1: body to do that. So here I am paid medication
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  Speaker 1: and vibes.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to you for honestly playing like you are
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  Speaker 3: literally a wounded warrior. I'll be honest, even though we're
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  Speaker 3: just sitting here podcasting, I don't think I would have
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  Speaker 3: been able to make it, so honestly.
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  Speaker 1: I know for a little bit, I couldn't make it
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  Speaker 1: to the living room, which is tragic. When you have
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  Speaker 1: to cancel things and it's like in your living room,
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  Speaker 1: it's truly tragic. I mean in my office. But still,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just a couple of hobbles away, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: make it. But we're here a little detour there up top.
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  Speaker 1: But I always ask, you know, what's your relationship with scams?
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  Speaker 1: Have ever been scammed? Do you like them? Do you
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  Speaker 1: hate them? It could be anything, a story, whatever you got.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be upfront. You grow up in southern California. I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in the Los Angeles area, You're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna be scamming, chasing at the very least time.
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  Speaker 3: I come from a big country family where you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was the first generation that like literally wasn't raised
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  Speaker 3: on the farm. Would say, I would say half of
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  Speaker 3: the folks are law abiding citizens, and you'll take care
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  Speaker 3: of business. In the other half, they may have a
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  Speaker 3: day gig, but they also have a hustle of some sort.
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  Speaker 3: And it just it just kind of is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Quite frankly, we're sitting here right now because I you know,
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  Speaker 3: because I got my scam on. I didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: background in journalism. I didn't have a background in radio.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have a background in any of that. And
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  Speaker 3: I started a website and basically within a year ended
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  Speaker 3: up with an internship that got me hired by USA Today.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing, let do another, and here and here
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  Speaker 3: we are. So I'm very familiar with scamming, or as
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  Speaker 3: you could, I guess you could say, fake it till
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  Speaker 3: you make it right.
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  Speaker 1: It's you, right, I mean, we got talent. Is it
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  Speaker 1: really faking it? I mean, list think about it. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: was born with a background in anything, you know. We
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  Speaker 1: all came into the earth background and with no thanks.
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  Speaker 3: This is true. But I'll give you an example. I'll
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  Speaker 3: give you an example.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know exactly what you mean. I'm being facetious,
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  Speaker 1: but oh no, but I'm touch you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give me an example my second internship sharing them
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  Speaker 3: who's uh it's now defunct, but shout out to y'all.
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  Speaker 3: You know whatever y'all are doing. They asked me, hey,
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  Speaker 3: do you we need a we need a producer? Can
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  Speaker 3: you do that? Of course I can? Yeah, Google? How
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  Speaker 3: what is a podcast? Producer? What is a podcast? It
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  Speaker 3: was straight like that. I had to teach myself all
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  Speaker 3: of it on the fly. They were patient enough because
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have anybody else to do it. And like
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  Speaker 3: I said, here, we are right.
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  Speaker 1: They hired you because they didn't know nothing about producers.
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  Speaker 1: So clearly you figured it out. And Google is free
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  Speaker 1: and right there. I don't know, it sounds good to me.
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  Speaker 1: You were like you Google like producer, Okay, step one headphones, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: get on Amazon. I guess some of those. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love this for you. That's a
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  Speaker 1: good scam and you turned it into a coin making career.
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  Speaker 3: Here we are here, we all.
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  Speaker 1: Love to see it. Love to see it. Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into our first segment here, what is hide and fraud?
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  Speaker 1: This is where we want our listeners about fraud that's
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  Speaker 1: popping on the streets and more often than not these days,
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  Speaker 1: we get a letter from you guys as always snitch
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  Speaker 1: on your friends and family at scam got his pot
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  Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Jabari, I need a fake name
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  Speaker 1: for this person. We don't care about gender, and it's
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  Speaker 1: always got to make sure your scams are retired. We
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  Speaker 1: don't want to. Yes, fuck up your back, Okay, don't
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  Speaker 1: send it to me while you're still doing it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to get in the wag, getting in the
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  Speaker 1: way of what you see. I'm not trying to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But right what you got give me a fake name,
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  Speaker 1: don't matter gender.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go with Ralph. Ralph, Ralph missed. If you're nasty, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, if you're nasty Ralph? Yes, so, Ralph says, Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a pause for one second because I do have
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  Speaker 1: one question, one follow up question for you. Right, so,
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  Speaker 1: you say your family is country. They from the country
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  Speaker 1: of California. Are they like from the Where are all
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  Speaker 1: from country?
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  Speaker 3: Backwoods Louisiana, Northern Louisiana? Where Faraday Faraday Louisiana Faraday?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? I for Hed Faraday, our family backet Ish okay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and we like to go to the boat.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody in Louisiana is related one way or another. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just gonna tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: Truly, we're probably cousins. Were probably cousins. I also have
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  Speaker 1: a big country family and played a lot barefoot and
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  Speaker 1: definitely did not send my DNA at ancestry dot com
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  Speaker 1: because too many of my cousins got strikes. We don't
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  Speaker 1: play those games.
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  Speaker 3: That's an away game. I can appreciate not playing that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, y'all not gonna give me on no DNA evidence.
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  Speaker 1: But so Ralph not to be confused with the store Ralph's,
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  Speaker 1: which you know where Ralp's name their store Ralphs. Did
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  Speaker 1: they know that they were gonna be ratchet? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like some people have to know they like planning a
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  Speaker 1: ratchet business because ralph just doesn't sound like a classy
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  Speaker 1: place to give food. I go there, but it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Whole Foods.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, growing
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  Speaker 3: up and growing up in La Area, Rouse used to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty nice. It was kind of like the upstanding
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  Speaker 3: place you know, you go your Ralphs, you know, Ralph's
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  Speaker 3: Pavilions or whatever. But most recently, the last time matter
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm in I'm in Tucson now, but the
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  Speaker 3: last time I was in La I went into a rouse,
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  Speaker 3: and you're right, it kind of does resemble food for us.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, no disrespect shelves. All love the food
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  Speaker 3: for us, but it kind of does resemble that now.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I love some food for less. It's nothing
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  Speaker 1: about the vizor. It's just like the client tele has.
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  Speaker 1: Really do you know, you go outside the rouse, you'd
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  Speaker 1: be like hold of your purse and putting all your
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  Speaker 1: keys between your fingers, looking at left and right and
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  Speaker 1: left and right again, neck hurt. When you get home
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  Speaker 1: from being vigilant.
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  Speaker 3: They offering you food and entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: You just never know, yes, entertainment and maybe a workout
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  Speaker 1: you might have to run from somebody. So and let's
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  Speaker 1: say sponsor to podcast. I'm like, Ralph's get your produce
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  Speaker 1: there the best.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to Ralph, Shout out to you, Ralph.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so, Ralph says, Hi, Lacy love you love the show. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Ralph. So my coworker Kevin, Kevin sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a scammer. He asked a question at lunch today and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to run it by you as a scam
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  Speaker 1: expert in my life is amen is it a scam
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  Speaker 1: if he just asked people online for a dollar, no
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  Speaker 1: strings attached. Does it become a scam if he asks
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  Speaker 1: for a dollar and then that dollar enters them into
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  Speaker 1: a giveaway to potentially win ten thousand dollars every year
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of their life.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Ralph, there's a lot going on. There is the scam. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: the thing right you started.
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  Speaker 1: You started with just asking for a dollar and then
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  Speaker 1: it became okay, now, what if Kevin runs his own
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  Speaker 1: personal lottery from one dollar to ten thousand dollars for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of your life really quickly? There, I'm gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: if you ask people for a dollar, it's not a scam.
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  Speaker 1: If you ask them for a dollar and promise that
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna pay up tenth I mean, if you pay them,
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  Speaker 1: I guess we could all be all our own lottery shit.
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  Speaker 3: That's like Nigerian email level scam. Like, like, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 3: If you're falling for that, quite frankly, you deserve.
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  Speaker 1: Straight taxes and fees. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you fall for hey, if you give me a
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  Speaker 3: dollar you might win ten thousand, then you kind of
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  Speaker 3: deserve what you get. Yeah, I'm sorry for it.
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  Speaker 1: There's just nothing to hold hold you accountable, because like
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  Speaker 1: if I go give a dollar scratch off to the
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  Speaker 1: you know, state lottery, like the girls do have to
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  Speaker 1: run me my little coins if I win? But like,
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  Speaker 1: who's to say that, Kevin? I how do I know?
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  Speaker 1: I want? Kevin? Like, are you giving out lottery ticket?
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  Speaker 1: Are you giving out little rastle tickets? Like how do
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  Speaker 1: I know if I won?
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  Speaker 3: You're not winning with Kevin. Kevin's taking your dollar and
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  Speaker 3: moving on about his life. I can appreciate that energy,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, like if you have a problem asking
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  Speaker 3: a thousand people for a dollar, cool, But yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And a dollar is not much to miss, he said.
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  Speaker 1: He figures if he gets a million people to give
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  Speaker 1: him a dollar, he could invest and then pay out
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  Speaker 1: the giveaway from part of the interest that he earns.
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  Speaker 1: He felt like it was a win win for everyone
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  Speaker 1: involved and therefore not a scam. The rest of us
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  Speaker 1: are pretty sure it's not legal to make your own lottery.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Thanks, I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 1: got a letter like this which makes me laugh, Like
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  Speaker 1: so he.
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  Speaker 3: Is he has entered pyramid scheme style. Now, like this
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  Speaker 3: is not Yeah, let me take back a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of what I said before. I was dissiant. I was
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  Speaker 3: distant a scam, but actually, you know there are layers
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  Speaker 3: to it, there are levels to it. So look, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you're going to really get very far on it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it is what it is. But if
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  Speaker 3: you can if you can convince even twenty people to
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  Speaker 3: get it, to give you a dollar, I guess you're
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  Speaker 3: twenty dollars up right.
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  Speaker 1: And Kevin, if you want to do a Facebook live
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  Speaker 1: at hold show old lotto, who am I to say no?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Liability wise, I did not tell you this was legal.
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  Speaker 1: This sounds like a grayer to me. But if you
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  Speaker 1: want to ask people for a dollar and they give
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  Speaker 1: your dollar like nobody's gonna miss a dollar, you know
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  Speaker 1: most people won't miss a dollar.
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  Speaker 3: So Kevin running the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and it's giving. I would say pyramid scheme too,
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  Speaker 1: But a pyramid scheme. The defining factor of that would
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  Speaker 1: be if he was like, y'all give me a dollar,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: and then y'all get ten of y'all's friends to give
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: you a dollar and then bring them in on the
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: dollar pyramid, a very low pyramid, low stakes pyramid scheme,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: which in that case, I would say, I mean, try it.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: The thing that always makes me laugh, And I tweet
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: about this like during the pandemic, which now is two
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: years ago when it started. But people will get on
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Twitter and post their gofundmes on viral tweets. And here's
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the thing about that, Guys, like, can y'all at least
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: kind of look at the tweet that you're posting your
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: GoFundMe on to see if the vibe is right, because
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: sometimes the viral tweet be like I've been lonely for
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: so long, my hairbrush started to look good to me.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: And then you know it's got two hundred and fifty
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: thousand likes, and then you want to know, like, hey, y'all,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: my grand niece got hit by several busses. Anything helps,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I just feel like you should be
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: under this tweet.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I get that. I'll be honest with you. I don't
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: let me say I don't go viral all the time,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: but I get people posting that under my link, under
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: my links or my tweets or whatnot, And I say,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: do y'all not realize I'm a brocass podcast. What am
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I gonna do for you? I'm not really sure where
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I can go with that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I know, I think they're hoping that somebody will read
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the viral tweeting and then hopefully be inclined. So inclined
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and I don't know. It must work a little bit
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: because I see people doing it all the time. So
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: maybe it gives you a little bit of traction, because
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: it's hard now to get some traction with your gofund me.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: It's too many of them.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, when everyone has one, I'll be honest with you.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: It all kind of blends in and I say, hey,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: you know what I gave at the office.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Right, And it's like gofund. It used to be like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: you tell a little story, may maybe provide a photo.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like now you got to have whole videos,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Like we got to see the traffic cam footage of
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the grand niece getting hit by several buses. Like it's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: like people need a lot more to give.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Unless I see that video, I'm gonna figure you're trying
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: to pay back your pay back one of those loans
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't have.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Taken the PPEs. Oh yeah, I'm not not at anybody
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: who got a PPE loan. I was just like, well,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: how did you think it was gonna end? They did
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: call it alone. They never said it was just like
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you could have it and go buy Lamborghinis, yes, blue
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: from pretty Rinky. Nobody said you could just have it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: You do have to pay it back. Scoff cold and
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: we're back and it's time for historic hoodwicks. This is
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: where I'm gonna regale Jabari with a famous concaper group
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: of criminals, couple you know who knows, and we'll get
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: his opinions all throughout. Jabari interrupt anything you have to say,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: tangents that we love all things here. So for clarification,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Heather Morgan is not, nor has ever claimed to be
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a comedian or have any comedic attentions. That's just gonna
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: come into play at some point. So that's just a clarificed.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Let's just clarifying statement, which makes me laugh. That's up
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: top Kalyn that she's not trying to be funny, which
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: means that she must be hilarious. Good to know. So
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: today we're talking about a wrapping former CEO duo that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: have made international headlines after the d o J completed
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the largest asset seizure in history, involving four billion dollars
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: in bitcoin.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna do it
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: good to do it big at the very least.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Gonna do it do it medium. So maybe don't get caught.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a good point. Once you
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: once you, once you cross someone's rate a certain radar,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess you open yourself up. But hey,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: four million right off the bat.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, I feel like I'm trying to scam an
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: extra medium. Extra medium is small, like not not large,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: not exam you know, I got you. So who is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Heather Morgan and el Yeah Lickenstein uh So? In her
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: own words, Heather Morgan is a soft We're an entrepreneur, writer, rapper, CEO,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and persuasion expert. That is the strongest rebrand of liar
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and manipulator that I've ever heard.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I was just about to ask, what the hell does
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: that even mean? Look, you got to break this stuff
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: down from me. Persuasion expert.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, she's an expert in persuasion. You know, whatever
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you need to be persuaded, she can provide. So we
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: have a little video here and look at her. Okay,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: we're gonna post the photos of her. She's giving us
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a strong sheeo post here. I don't know all these
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: clothing items that she's wearing. It looks like she's going
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to different places. Yes, the blazer is giving me like
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a distant cousin's funeral. The shirt is giving me like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: fifty percent off Addelia's definitely.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Wait a second, are those leggings.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: They're I think they're leggings. They're giving fab letics. It's like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: are you going to the gym?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: What's the web there?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Where you're going? Right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Are you going to a co worker's daughter's key Sierra?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Where are you going? I don't know. So we have
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a video where she did talk about the topic of
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: being an expert in persuasion a little bit. Let's just
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: play a little bit of that. And I'm seeing that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the title of the PowerPoint where we're about to start
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: this video is how to social engineer your way into
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in all caps anything. Okay, So she's at some hotel lobby.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh she's wrapping, okay, please please stop. Oh my god.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I have one question. What's that brother in the bottom
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: left corner doing there? Because I was my comment was
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: going to be, you notice we not in this wait,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: no damn, letting me down, letting me down for the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: fellow big brothers. And on top of that, we can
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: see you bro.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Y'all are trying to be a social engineer. He's trying
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to its socially engineered his way into the art of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: uh being a persuasion expert. Also, like sis not just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: starting this to talk with your rap song, which I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: did watch the music video. I think we'll have a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: clip of it. You'll get to see a little bit
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: of it. It's insane. Also, miss mss girl, Miss Morgan,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you are so far away from this beat.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: You He's in New York, the beat beat was in Wyoming, Like.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Girl, you are in witness protection from the beat, Like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you ain't ever seen the beat, heard the beat, so
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: far off of it and don't rhyme what's happening?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: It is?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Ah, okay, go ahead, bright What were you gonna say?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Because lord, so we have the one black man here
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: diversity inclusion.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I need, honestly, I need, I need more follow up
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: on him. Was he your plan? Did they say did
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: they walk outside and go you want that guy?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: That?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Like? How did he wind up there? That's really my
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: main question. And then also like what was she rapping about.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like you don't need any plants when you're
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: trying to sell something like this. I feel like probably
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: white people would feel more comfortable if there were no
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: people of color in the audience, like we got here first,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like we on this first, and then it'll trickle down
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to the minorities. But we need to learn how to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: be persuasion experts first, I mean fixed, So I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people would be like, where are
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: all the black people at this meeting?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean she did lead in with
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: a rap, She let in with a rap and even
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: throw a mofu in there at that said right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And it feels like y'all are at an airport Marriott.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you should just be dropping motherfuckers
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like at the.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Even though I listened to the show, I was like, wait,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: can I say that? Yeah?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, we are not safe for work and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: everybody knows that. So she even got into streetwear design,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: which she wore both in her music video as a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: rapper and to industry events. So she also got into
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: streetwear design. She said, uh Rihanna, oh stop it, hold
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: my beer, you know, I'm all, I'm gonna rap, I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: gonna sing and also gonna put out terrible clothes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Her hat is zero fux. I'm guessing that's what that is.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Y it is?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Is this a gold sequin jacket over a cheetah print?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's getting there. A gold sequin bomber and then
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a cheetah print, and then it looks like she has
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: on like a T shirt that almost is like a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: flannel underneath like a button up. It's got like three
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: little buttons of this. It's like, are you caught? Are
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you hot?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Did she just basically watch like late eighties and nineties,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you know, movies that they featured like what they thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: rappers look like, because that's what this film. While she
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: really is wearing like the leggings and.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe she made those leggings because she has them on
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: again and they're fascinating because they have these little sheer panels.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But the panels are at the thigh part, which is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: like not normally where you would want panel, Like I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: have thick thighs, and I don't want sheerness where the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: where the friction, No, not where the friction's happening. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: haven't we call a thunder thigh and yeah, I don't uh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this is a lot. So she's in the Fie Eye
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: district of New York posing and wrapping in her in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: her clothes girls. She's also a clothier. So. Heather grew
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: up in Tahama, a town of about four hundred people
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in northern California. She studied economics in school, but ultimately
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: moved to San Francisco to create a marketing firm. Additionally,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: she spent time in the Middle East working in currency markets.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So Eliah Lickenstein was born in Russia in nineteen eighty seven,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: though he moved to the US with his parents as
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a child. He grew up the son of a wealthy
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mortgage broker in Chicago. So this is Eliah with his
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: cat Okay. As an adult, he co founded a sales
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: company in San Francisco, which secured one point five million
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: dollar investment from Mark Cuban and others in the same Okay,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: so you got a little MAVs money behind him.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: The two tech entrepreneurs met in twenty fourteen when Alia
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: became an advisor to Heather's company. Despite their differences, mostly
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: how they're viewed having lives on social media. The two
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: married in twenty eighteen. Note that her husband, Alia didn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: embrace social media like Heather did. Well duh, I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: oh wait, I won't say he didn't, did it Marina?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: As soon as I read he didn't embrace social media,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: she brought up the most bizarre looking TikTok video that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we haven't even played. But it's just the way he's
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: laying on this bed. What is happening?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: What is going Is she going to be wrapping in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the background there?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But he's laying on the bed like
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it's Valentine's Day. He about the surprise bay like you know, yes,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's giving rose pedals. He got the knees tucked in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: like it's giving like baddie, like you know, pregnancy. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: don't shoot.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: He also has the double collar going like, so, what
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: are we doing here? This is not two thousand and eight?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: And is he on a bed or a pull out
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: or And then what is going on with this blind
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: situation at the bag? I'm so confused. It's the hotel.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Can we hit play on this TikTok? I'm scared. Well,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: let's just see what's going on.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Interesting what I say recorded the first time? Okay, because
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not a little wind up, a little dancing monkey
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: that's gonna repeat the exact same thing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm very confused. There's two trash cans by
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: this pull out bad situation.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: And there were multiple those were multiple laughs in the background,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: like you're an audience there, what do you? Where is
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the setting?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Also, his voice is not what I thought it was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: gonna sound like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I was holding I was holding off. But as soon
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: as I heard it, I was like, Okay, I don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: know if I'm allowed to make fun of this guy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm right, I'm like, all right, sir. So as
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a he co founded a sales company, you know that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: got the mark hebans coins. They got married, even though
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: obviously they're very different. At their wedding in Culver City,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: her friends carried her down the aisle in a Moroccan
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: planquin as the final countdown played what is a Moroccan plankquin? Oh?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And these are her friends? I guess well, she did
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: spend some time in the Middle East, so maybe she
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: was like, y'all come to my wedding, But also like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: is this shrew tradition?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Says, I wanna say, what type of appropriation is this?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: And my man is so disgusted by these pickings nose
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: and in your picture.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want lies kind of fire, you know, so,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I mean? And the final countdown is playing, which is bizarre. Okay.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: At the reception, she performed her song Turkish Martha Stewart.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Wait, I thought you had video of this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, I think we have a hyperlink of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: at least the song. Can we hear some of Turkish
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: mark at the Stewart even though okay, just play it
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Turkish Martha. Start, She's gone up and I've been trapping
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with DESRT or gone poppy from the dirt. Oh yeah, sure.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: There's so much COVID thrusting going on. There's so much
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: just confusing and still like, I don't know if she's
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: in Turkey right now, but that beat again, not anywhere?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Start like that?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like is she trying to do like skirt? Is
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: she trying to do that? Because I kind of thought
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: that's what she was doing, But it still doesn't play
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't really fit.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: If you're not from Turkey, how are you? Turkish Marsa Stewart?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: You not Wait, she's Russian, right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: No, she her husband is. She's from Cali.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I got nothing. Oh yeah, I forgot. She's from a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: small town in northern California, and she probably tells people
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: she's from the Bay, right, which equals Turkey.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I am confusion. I'm confusion. I okay. So in early
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, both Heather and Aliya quit their jobs working
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: for large companies. Heather attributed the transition to CEO burnout,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: which was later cured by discovering her rap persona razzle Khan.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I know, damn well, I know, I tell you did
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: not put a con on the end. And it's kha n.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It should be co o n, but it's kh An. Sweet.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I know they told us that a lot of us
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: are related to Genghis. But since this ain't it, you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: ain't really like huh. So we have another TikTok. Let's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: just play a little bit of this. I'm I'm already
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: tired of Heather. I'm exhausted, okay, So don't hate because
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I work great, smell, grape taste great. Don't hate. This
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: ain't a debate. We ain't gonna date, even though I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: make you one on masturbate man my mouth is a gabe.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I don't have anything for this, like want to mess debate.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's so bad. I have to seriously ask if it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: a joke, like this.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Is really Remember the beginning of the episode or this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: part of the episode, we said she is not a comedian.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: This woman is serious. That make you want to meta
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: bait I get you a low interest rate. Don't hate
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Ceo reside con.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: What couldn't lady, Why couldn't Why could well? I won't
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: speak for you. Why could not just be born into money?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Because I feel I feel like you have to be
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: born into money to ever get to that level of
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know, delusion, a complete delusion.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Honestly, she looks so free, and I'm a little jealous.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I'm am I hating from outside the club, Like right,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: hands up if you're hating from outside the club, just
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: tap your neighbor if you're hating from out side.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: The club, because I would love to just be this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: fucking ignorant, not even ignorant, just ignorant. I want this
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for me. I want to have level of delusion, just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: no clue about what's happening on planet Earth, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: rapping up TikTok, and then she's teasing it. It's a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: new song, it's a freestyle. It's gonna be a new
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: song too, and hey, and you off beating. It's no
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: beat in the back.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's a talent. I don't know how you are offbeat
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: when there are literally no beats in sight? Like, congratulations, sis,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: because wow.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: You make a good point. Maybe we're the ones that
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: are that are wrong here. She is talented, might something
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: we just don't realize it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of great artists. Van God
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: who you know, he had chopped his ear off and whatnot
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and didn't and didn't get no shine until he died,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know. So right, maybe we're wrong because the girls
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: weren't loving all that art until they died. You know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe Heather's yeah, Heather, maybe she owned this love it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: She's he got vibes from uh, what's what's it called
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: brown sugar? She's got whatever that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They were a little bit more on
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: beat than this. Don't don't put some respect on Rinton's
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: name because I don't. I don't know. So following her
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: leaving the company she co founded and this is in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: her own words, uh, she says, it's really strange to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: suddenly have free time after beasting NonStop for years. It
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: was about this time that I discovered rapping. I really
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: want to know who helped you with the discovery so
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: that we could fight them, because we need to have
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a fisticuffs with said individuals. So it was during this
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: time that both Aliya and Heather also went on to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: attain other nebulous titles such as serial entrepreneur, which I've
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: already told domine scammer, advised her guru, and fact I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: shouldn't design her. So Heather, the former CEO, didn't pick
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: up a full time job again. The couple traveled frequently
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and moved into a one million dollar Wall Street apartment.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I love when you're so rich that you just you don't.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Have to work.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows where your money comes from. When you apply
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: for a million dollar apartment, they're just like, I gat like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like we were black. And even if you've
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: worked so hard and had some money, they're still like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: how did you get this money?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly who are you representing? Like? What are we
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: doing right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Even if they see the money in your bank account,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: they like, how did it get there? If someone gonna
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: take it back? You couldn't got this all your own?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Who did you take this money from? Nickris?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Now that that that is kind of amazing that that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry a million. No, I just want to live
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: her life like I'll even make those terrible I can't
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: wrap it all like so to be clear, I'm making
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: fun of her. I can't rap. I could do better
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: than that, but I can't. I want to. I want
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I want that type of confidence.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I do too. So the crime beyond razzle, which is
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a crime to humanity that somebody is letting her put
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: this on wax. So it turns out that the sudden
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: career changes may have had less to do with one
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in creative expression and more to do with a couple
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: suddenly coming into possession of almost four billion in stolen
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: bitcoin in August twenty sixteen. So they were like, oh,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we just wanted to pursue our passions, get
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a million dollar apartment. You know how we was just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: e price scamming.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Earlier when you said I didn't realize you said four billion.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I thought you said four These folks peach folks took
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a billy and thought this.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And thought nobody was gonna ask no questions.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Also, just really quickly, if you have Guru in your name,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: you're full of shit. I don't care if you if
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: your if your card says Guru of any kind, you're
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: full of shit.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Nobody can guru. I feel like somebody got to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: able to guru. Who who that's I mean, look back
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: in the day. I feel like you could only be
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a guru before the Internet because the Dalli Lama people
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: call him a guru, and like, if you look into
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Daalama's past, there's a lot of shit back there. Today
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: ain't as cute as you think it is. But you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: people are like, I don't know, he looks the part.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: He's very zin and calm. We never seen him yell
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: at nobody that you've seen, and you're like, okay, well
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: he must be a gurl root.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, Okay, I take it back, Dali Lama,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you can run that type of game. I'm not believing
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: in Heather.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But maybe you could just be a guru by being quiet.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're gonna be a guru, you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just have to have very uncomfortable energy that you've harnessed
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: into superiority because a lot of people have uncomfortable energy
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that you meet them and you're like, this, nig's a weirdo.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: But if you're a weirdo and you learn how to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: harness that into like a power, like an ego like
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: move where you can be superior to people, that's when
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you become a guru. Because you're still making people uncomfortable
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and unsettled, but now they're like, is it because I'm
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: less than.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's kind of sounding a cult
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: leader ish, But do I feel uncomfortable?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Because you know that is the right That's what I want.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: So in August twenty sixteen, the Hong Kong crypto exchange
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: by Finance was hacked, leading to the loss of one
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand bitcoins at the time sixty six
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: million dollars. Right, Which, that's the thing about Bigcoin. It's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: all online and I get it, like everybody's like the future.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I won't lie, like I'm not trying to be a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: hater on like crypto because it's obviously a part of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: our lives. Like if you venmo, it's crypto, Like all
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: money online is crypto. In a way. You know, it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: online currency, but it just feels like because the banking
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: industry and stocks and everything else has been so overrun
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with the same Wall Street types that the new tech
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: bro Wall Street types were like, well, how do we
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: get in and like ruin everybody's lives? Oh, we do crypto,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and this is how we'll ruin everyone's lives with currency.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I do think you can get in the crypto game,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but I think you have to get out. I don't
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: think you can just like live in it. And because
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that anything that involves people
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: advertising it to try to get more people involved is
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a scam because if you were making money hand over fist,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I have never seen a benevolent capitalist. I've never seen
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: any billionaire or money hoarder be like, oh, we make
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it so much coin, y'all come over here and get involved.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: That's not how money works.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: That's exactly the case. Anytime you have to sell me
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: on it, you are trying to sell me. I'm not
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: that Look, I'm not gonna be the one. And maybe
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I missed the boat. Maybe I end up missing the boat, right,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: you know what, lady, we might circle back in a
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: year and you be like, hey, look, I got my.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Saying get in and get out. I'm just saying don't
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: stay because I don't know what happens when you stay.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Maybe dip a toe if you
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: have some you know, income that you can be frivolous with.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, don't stay because if Crypto's buy
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: ads in the Super Bowl, you know, it's like, why
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: y'all gotta sell it? If it's so good, why y'all
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: gotta tell us.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: On the biggest stage when you know it's folks that
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: are just looking.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: If they bought the Saples Center and called it Crypto
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: dot Com, I'm like, why y'all.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: But then again, I'll be honest with you. You know
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: it's gonna sell. You have folks that were going ahead
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: and scanning that scanning that screen. I looked at I
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: looked at it and said like, nah, I don't think
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: so right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good, I'm not gonna put my
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: phone camera up here for the quirk tea. I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I'm good, rab right, But I get it, and I'm saying, dipititoe.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Like if you have somebody who's got some plugs if
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you have bigcoin. Bitcoin is appreciated so much and like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: people made a lot of legit money off of it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'll always just say this podcast, like
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: make sure you're trading from a legitimate source. So to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: this day, no one has been caught for the theft
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of the actual bitcoin that happened in the Hong Kong
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: crypto exchange. Right, Heather and Alia came into possession of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: roughly ninety five thousand of those bitcoins in early twenty
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: seventeen through a series of small, complex transactions. So remember
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand bitcoins were stolen somehow Heather
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and her Russian Bay have come up on ninety five
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: thousand of them, which means that only twenty five thousand
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: of them they did not get. So who did y'all
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: know who stole this? Because y'all came up on a
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: significant amount of the coins.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Whatever Russian oligart that is associated with this, gentleman, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: want to offer, on my part as well as on
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Lacey's part, we apologize for anything that was offensive liquor list.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So at today's value, the ninety five thousand bitcoins that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: they got roughly translates to about four billion dollars in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: stolen krypto. The problem and reason why the couple did
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: not simply disappear with their hoard was that with the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: hack that big and notorious, the stolen bitcoins were almost
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: immediately blacklisted. So you know with bigcoin, blackchain, all this stuff, like,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: they can figure out there's a receipt, there's at CBS
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: long receipt for all of this shit. So they couldn't
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: just be like, okay, may like the squid game coin
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: when they like took three million dollars and was like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: oh y'all like that TV show and we stole y'all
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: money by they couldn't do that with four billion. You
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: can't just make four billion dollars disappear off the ether,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So whoever possessed the crypto couldn't redeem it for cash
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: or trade it in reputable exchanges. This left a massive
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: amount to be laundered, which only increased a year after
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: year as the couple held on to the hoard and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the bitcoin value soared. So normally when you have bitcoin
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and the values going up, you'd be like, oh, this
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is amazing, this is great for them. This is an
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: l because they're like, damn it did better today. Oh hell, Like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: how are they gonna get this shit back on the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: market legally? Seeming? And when they have so much volume
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to move one of the only ways they could actually
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: use the bitcoin was through purchasing five hundred dollars Walmart
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: gift cards.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Wow, No, they went the Walmart gift card route.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: This is so ghetto. Five hundred dollars at a time.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Y'all ain't never go launder this money. Never, y'all had
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a laundry man, y'all laundering with quarters.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Let me ask this, how did they have like the wherewithal?
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I want you know, whether it's intelligence? How did they
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: have the ability to pull this scam off but have
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: no plan whatsoever? And why would they have stayed here
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and not at least traveled to a place that wouldn't
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: extra day. I just don't understand, Like, you come up,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: you come up with.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You saw how this woman.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a good point. You're right,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Like I should not expect you.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: We have to attribute that level of delusion in her
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: rap career to that level of delusion in her financial
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: crime career, because clearly she was high on something. Maybe
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: it's life. But whatever it was, the girls stopped taking it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So the couple began traveling abroad more often, like you said,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: because obviously the US ain't that girl for all of this,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: going to Ukraine in twenty nineteen and meeting with money
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: launderers while they developed their plans to leave the country
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: with their billions successfully turned to cash. They continue to
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: live their entire lives online now. Listen, even the creator
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: of bitcoin, we don't know who that person is, Like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: why are you a public figure when you know you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: sitting on billions of dollars and you know, you literally
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: know that you are getting the tide, you're getting the shout,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you're getting the game, and you're seasoning the laundry like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: black people, where you put like twelve game sheets in
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the dryer like you are laundering laundering money. You know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you are doing a fold and press. You are taking
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: stuff out of the you know, the permanent press cycle
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and hanging it on the dry on the clothes line,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like you are laundering laundering money. Why would you be online?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I don't understand. Like it wasn't just enough to pull
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: the scam off. They had to, let you know, they
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: had to flex on you. Hey, look, if that's where
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: we're at, I guess I'll tell you right now. I
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: am from a generation where if I ever, if I
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: get my hands on something like that, you'll never hear
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: from me again. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be like,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I'll still listen to he Look, I'll give you some listeners.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I'll make sure to even listen through your listen to
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: your promos so you get the full credit. But outside
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: of that, that's it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: If scam got this podcast, drop off the map and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't tell y'all that I'm not doing episodes some more.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Just no, I don't hit a leg and I'm gone,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gone. You will never see you'll never see megad
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: what like this is crazy? So they travel to and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: from business meetings exclusively by Uber during their Ukraine excursion,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Which why would you do that? There's a record of
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Uber that's gonna tell people where you got dropped off
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: or you got picked up a girl. Y'all better find
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a yellow cab, y'all better rent a car. Y'all got
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: all these coins? Why are y'all operating on anything that's technological?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Why are y'all operating through technology?
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Why I don't feel guilty about saying this. These are
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the dumbest crooks that I've heard of so far, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: they shouldn't be in order to be that successful at
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: that because.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Y'all are white collar crooks like y'all should know by
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: now if you work on Wall Street, you should know
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a decent amount about crime. What are you doing or no?
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Other criminals that can at least let you say hey, hey,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: my man or you know, Heather, don't do that?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeay, y'all need a criminal guru. Y'all needed a crime
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: guru who could to help y'all give y'all philosophical advice
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and return you pay them for the silence. So Razzle
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Khan's raps and Raal Khan is Heather. I cannot call
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: her that Heather. I am not calling her that name.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Do you call it Kahan? For sure?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: No, that's even worse, So Heather, miss mss Razzle Dazzle.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Her raps included lyrics such as spearfisher passwords, slash all
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: funds transferred and Okay, so I guess you're trying to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: give little tips in your raps. Maybe I need to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: listen to these raps about financial crime like she might
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: be giving it to us.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: She giving up the game in the rhymes. That is amazing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, like, okay, okay, we just just quickly she's
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: a rap amongst all those other things. They pulled this
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: scam off. They got it, and they would have gotten
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: away with it. Yep. They decided to broadcast it. And
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: then she's and then she's gonna call about it in
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: her own rhymes. No one's gonna hear them. But if
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: in just in the case that they do, she has
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: given the game up and told what she did. Okay,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I didn't mean it's that's amazing.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: To me, sir. My name is Heather. I ain't from Turkey,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but I keep the I can't even do it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Like She's like, I can get it's bad.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: She's like, I keep them cons on me like faux jerky.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm the realist in the biz because I will still
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: all yo shit, spearfish your password, all funds transferred illegally,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like I no so. Allya
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and her husband kept files on the cloud storage account
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: for documents such as notes about money laundering and forged
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: identification documents to get them into Ukraine. The cloud, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: they took notes the cloud, the literal thing that Steven
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Jobs and his black turtle ass neck ass made that
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: no one understands.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be a stereotypical blackmail right now and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna court the wire taking notes on a criminal
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: fucking conspiracy. Bro, Like, what are we doing?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: You got receipts for your crime? You're like, we gotta
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: keep all these Waldmart receipts. We might need to take
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: back these gids. What you keep it? Blue light special receipts?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Are y'all on?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It's a crack because I just know that no one
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: is this dumb like I think Kevin who's trying to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: get a dollar from everybody to start his own lotto.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna keep receipts of the dollars
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that he receives. I cannot believe that y'all will put
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: shit on the fucking cloud. No one knows how the
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: cloud works. Have you not seen how many celebrities got
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: their nipples aired out because it was on the clouds?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: The cloud is hella accessible. It's called the cloud for
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a reason because we're all, like we learned in school
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: what clouds do we did, we did. They're there, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: it's like gas. I don't know. It's white. It looks solid,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: but it's not. You want a plane, you fly through it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It's sometimes rain. We've all learned about clouds, and we
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: still don't know shit about the cloud, which is by
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: they named is the fucking cloud because how how so
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: it was their internet service provider that alerted the couple
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: in the early twenty twenty ones that a grand jury
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: was seeking records related to them. So Comcast, so AT
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and T or whoever the fuck they high speed provider was,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: which shout out to the internet provider, y'all must have
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: been paying for some hoigh speed shit if they were like, hey, y'all,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: it's us that AT and T and we we y
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: all are value customers, y'all are Love all the sim
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: cards y'all are getting across the world. Love the hoigh
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: speed that y'all are getting. Please continue to pay for stars.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: There will be more power installments of fifty cent is
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: writing a Bible, but just wanted the ads shot because
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the government did call us and they did say that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: they needed like records, They wanted certain files of y'all have,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like one called crime, another one called money laundering.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: What it also feels like that is that's illegal, Like
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: is the is the internet service provider allowed to you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: kind of give them the heads up. I mean it
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: didn't help, but.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I guess Look, the Internet service provider was like, we've
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: been in and we're not in, and all we did
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: was put them Ethernet cords in your house and just
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: want to let y'all know. And honestly, I would do
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the same thing if I was the Internet service provider,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: especially depending on where they were. I don't want them
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to think I was involved. Like, if you got that
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: much money, like you definitely could do murders.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: In a real way. Yeah, that's a good point.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just want the girls to know, like
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I don't need to be murdered. You know, we just
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: over here connected things, you know, making sure your WiFi
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is that's it. That's all we're doing. So as of today,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: it appears that Heather and Alia continued attempting to carry
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: out their plan until early this year. So they were like, Okay,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the government's on to us, but you know, we're gonna
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: continue getting these Walmart gift cards and wrapping and doing
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: tiktoks and living our lives cause you know why not.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: So their arrest. On January fifth, twenty twenty two, investigators
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: arrived at Heather and Alia's apartment with a search warrant.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: There was allegedly a struggle when Heather attempted to trick
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: investigators and lock them out of her phone while pretending
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to retrieve her cat okats. So she was like, hold on, y'all,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta go get Mittens.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say. She really did say, like, hold on,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: time out, time out. She tried to call time out
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: on an arrest.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: She's all time out on a search warrant. She's like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: hold on, Mints is very antsy, y'all. Hold on, Mitten's
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: got anxiety. Y'all can't come in here. Let me get
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: the cat neip.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Once again, the privilege because again, if they come look,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: if they come to yoga, if they come to yoga
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: on my door, and anyone that we know, they're not
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: just gonna be like, hey, can we come in the
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: First of all, they're gonna kick that door right, and
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna You're not gonna have time.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: You're oh my shit up.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: They got like, yeah, would be gone, rip mittens.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right, they would have thrown mittens out the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: two story window. What are you talking about? And like
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: she got a search weren't done, like the cleaning people
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: were coming. She was like, yes, right over there, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: make sure to be delicate with my linens. What I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: just feel like they would have definitely arrest you. So
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: she lost the ensuing wrestling match over her cell phone,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and officers found forty thousand dollars in cash, large amounts
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: of money and other currencies in a hollowed out book
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: for transporting bills and a bag labeled burner phone.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Now what scop it? They wrote, burner phone on the beda.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: This is just the most laziest, they said. They opened
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: our book called crime. Okay, so we're looking at books
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: right now that they've hollowed out, and it's like they've
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: only learned crime from television. Why what y'all thought reading
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the books? And also these aren't even pick enough books,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Like you can't get that much cash in these books.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Even if you're doing one hundred dollars bills at most,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you're getting ten thousand in each of these books. No
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: burner now her burner charger. She was I will say.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Heather's organized. She was like, this is why I keep
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: my burner chargers so I don my burner don't die.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And this my crime phone. This is my murder phone.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: We haven't used that one yet. We needed a sim
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: car for the murderphone.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: What But my real question is it's fine to put
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: it in that bag. Why do you need to label it?
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Why do you need to write burner phone?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Like you know what your You're gonna forget the phones
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that you have associated with crime. Also, when people knock
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: on your door with a search warrant, the first thing
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I would have done was pulled the sim cars out
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of those phones, or at least drop them bitches in
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the toilet. It hit flush a couple of times, like
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: what are you doing again?
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: No plan, no plan.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Once I would have been doing an Irish jig on
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: them phones, just dancing after I pour soda water all
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: over them like something fire fire's good, burners.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Try something microwave, throw it in the microwave, like honestly,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: these seam like the type people that would make that
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: show grill letters. What do you doing?
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: So she lost the wrestling match. They obviously found everything. Additionally,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the warrant extended to the couple's computers, where they also
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: found folders titled personas and Passport Ideas. Jesus, I, y'all
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: are really just this is hilarious.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I understand why Caitlyn put that warning at the top
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that y'all are not comedians, because I don't know if
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I can make this funnier than it already is. Passport ideas, y'all, like,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: let's throw around names. I think in my next country,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I want to be Susie Rudebega. What do you think
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: about that name? But we'll put it on the excel,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: we'll think about it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: What this is how bad they are if you make
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: a movie or a short series, shout out to you Netflix,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: and you know.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: What, right, because they.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: If you make it, you can't make it without it
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: being a comedy, because it's that absurd.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: It is they rapping, they got all. And also this
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: also tells me that y'all don't really before you got
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: into rap culture, you didn't even study anything about it,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: because even if you're on the scammer rap side, if
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: you would just listen to some lyrics, they would have
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: told you something about this.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Listen to some gez some like.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: What Jesus say, I keep my clean. I never touched dope?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Like what, hello, y'all touch it all the dope?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: What do y'all do and letting you know that they
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: got it? Hey?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Look literally, why y'all got a label maker? And you're like,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: all right, d o pe okay, put this one on
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the top shelf. That's the dope. Okay, burn the falls
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: b u r any running out of tape? Can you
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: go to the container store because we gotta label the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: rest of this crime? What didn't even make this the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: easiest fucking search more than ever? Like what? So it
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't until January thirty first that investigators were finally able
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to decrypt files on Alia's hard drive and find a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: stash of missing bitcoin. So at least he encrypted them,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: which you should have known. The government has hackers.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Now they're gonna get in there.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And even if they don't have good hackers, the thing
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: is a lot of goods will strike a deal and
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: be like, I guess I'll keep crying off the streets
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: if y'all keep me out the sale. So you're playing.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: The couple was arrested and posted a combined eight million
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: dollars in bond secured in part by both their parents' homes.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Privilege your parents' homes. Also, if I was your mama,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the last thing I'm doing is putting up my house.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: You not. I wouldn't even give y'all my line. I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even give y'all the sprinkler system. I'm not putting
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: shit up because y'all seem like the type who are
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: gonna run.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Remember it. I'll tell you about my country family, right.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I remember a day. I remember day like it was yesterday.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I was about thirteen, fourteen years old, and one of
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: my cousins called my mama and said, hey, can you
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: put your house up for me? And her exact words
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: were fuck no, just like this. This is a good
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: old Southern woman that doesn't deal, doesn't even speak like that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Well she does, but you know she'd like to say
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: this shit.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: She really mean, she needed to know. She wasn't gonna
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: think about it, she wasn't going to sleep on it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Don't call her back in a few hours. The answer
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: is no, today, tomorrow, always an in perpetuity amen.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly exactly that she said in his name, exactly in
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: his holies.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I know Jesus came back on the third day,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: but he ain't come back again, and neither and don't you.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Don't you come back?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, don't come back.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: So neither have entered please, though Heather's lawyer claims that
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: she was a passive participant in all grand scheme to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: launder money and flee the country. Oh not you, but
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: your husband under the bush. She want her husband under
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: several buses. Wow, oh yeah, you gotta get out of
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: this relationship because you're rapping. You're wrapping. White wife is
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: about to do you. She won't come out with raps
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: talking about trapped, trapped, trapped in an abusive Cohn relationship.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: He made me do it all. He may right, it's
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: a guarantee that that's going to be.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: That's the next single. He made me do it all. Hey, y'all,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: it's me Turkish Martha Stewart. I'm not trying to go
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: to jail. Like, look, you called yourself about the Stewart
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: so you kind of you wheeled yourself into a financial crime.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: By she spoke it. She wrapped it into it to existence.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You gotta be careful what you wrap. You might wrap
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: it into existence. So Chief Judge Baryl A. Howell ruled
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that all you staying custy because of the extreme likelihood
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: that he would attempt to flee while Heather met the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: criteria for a supervised release. How they were together. I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: know they found all the financial stuff on his computer,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: but they were together and she was wrestling somebody for
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a phone. I just feel like, if you call Steve
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Alston on somebody for your cell phone, you should also
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: be in the jail awaiting trial.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: She flipped on him. She must she had, she must
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: have told on him and put in put him.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: She went full small boughs. She she got on the beam,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: just started flip flip flip flip, flipping tens across the board.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: She stuck all the landings. Was like, I don't know him.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: That one took me a second. I'm not gonna lie.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, She's like, I know him and stuck
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the landing stick it. I mean, I can't be mad
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: at that as a woman, you know, flip on your man.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: You know, we watched that TikTok. She was gonna flip
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: on him again. I'm not trying to be judgment, but
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: we watched that and we yeah.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: You're right, from the TikTok, we can tell that she
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: was a snitch.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She First of all, she laughed at that man's face.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: She did with her.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Friend, cackled with her friends in his face while he
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: was laid up on the bed post trying to give
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the girls all.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: That he had, all of it he was showing.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not gonna do this again.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it a different way. She was like, okay, boo,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: she's so dumb. Yeah, And I mean, if she's a
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: real rapper, maybe she got her making the stallion on.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: She was like, leave these niggas holding the bag and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: why you know she stuck her tongue out and saying
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: a real high girl shit, real fried girl shit. Okay.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: The real question is that you have enough money to
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: get a meg a mega a feature at some point.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, these rap videos are giving low budget. But
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: she did it without getting chased out on the streets.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: And you can't really film like that in New York.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: They know when the girls are filming. So maybe she
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: got a coin, maybe she had a permit. If convicted,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Alia and Heather could face up to twenty five years
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: in prison for money laundering and conspiracy. The thing is
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is that this is not even physical coin, it's bitcoins,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: So can't they just return the coin and unencrypted thing
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that was blocking it and all is well? That ends well,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: it's just the twenty five years. I think about prison
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: time as a taxpayer, and this isn't a violent crime.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: These people are goofy as fucked, Like, I don't know
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: if they need to spend twenty five years in the can.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: It does seem extreme, but honestly for a bill like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's because of the amount. I just think
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: the amount of scamming that had to go.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I just think of crypto as a rich man's game,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, who did they really harm? Because obvious,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't know who bought
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: into bitcoin, and maybe you have a lot of savings
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: or your life savings side up into it, and perhaps
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is obviously it was very harmful. If they stole a
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: hundred whoever originally stole it, stole one hundred and twenty
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: thousand bitcoin, and if ninety five thousand of those bitcoin
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: equal four billion dollars, then a lot of people got robbed.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's a way like the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: FDIC is insured. I don't know how it works with cryptos.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: So you know, financial crime does harm people extremely. People
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: need money. The only people whoever say money doesn't buy
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: happiness is fucking rich people, which is why they need
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to shut the fuck up. Because you know how happy
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: you can sleep when all your bills are paid. Do
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you know how happy you can feel when you got food? Yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you may have other issues, may have family issues, you
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: may have health issues, but even if you have health issues,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: you're how happy you would be when you go to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the hospital and you don't have to worry about the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: girls shaking you down before you get your procedures.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Listen, I understand the old adage of more money, more problems,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: but I want those problems right.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I would rather have the money problems than the lack
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: of money problems, because nobody ever says no money more problems,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: which is definitely a thing. It's just that we assume that.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But before we go scammer of the week, that's what
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: we have highlight of Charlottetan who's worthy of our praise
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: or maybe not. We'll see and we'll get your barre's opinions.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Today we are talking about Greek Orthodox priest and hedge
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: fund manager. What a combination. Reverend Emanuel Limpson who was
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: found by a federal jury to have been involved in
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: a short and distort scheme MM short and distort. Oh,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: what was that about? So the scheme involved shortening the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: stock of a San Diego based company called Ligand Pharmaceuticals Incorporated.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Shorting is the process of borrowing securities that you don't
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: own and selling them to another investor at a lower
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: prise by pocketing the difference. So you're borrowing the securities then,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and so we were talking about obviously financial crime earlier
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: with bigcoins, and now we're moving over into the stock market.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Shorting is a thing that happens very often, and a
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: lot of people get away with it. But unfortunately Greek
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Orthodos priest Reverend A Maye was not so blessed and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: fortunate to get away with his shorting. So he was borrowing.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: He's borrowing the securities that he doesn't own and then
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: selling them to another investor at a lower price while
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: pocketing the difference. The referend allegedly then manipulated the stock's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: price through making false statements through attacking like in pharmaceuticals
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: in the media, so you know, got the stock, sold
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it off, you know, for a cheaper price, and then
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: brought the stock down by talking about it amen as
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: a referend like what was Reverend Maywell saying? He was
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like like, and can't heal you? Only God can heal you.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: They're selling the devils pharmaceuticals.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: So the first question that I have is how long
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: has he been? How long has he been a priest?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Because the question I actually have is was this a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: long con? Like did he get into this position so
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: that he could be a reputable, believable individual. Someone here
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: put the little paper there. You get the benefit of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: the doubt that you probably otherwise wouldn't get, or otherwise
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: if you're a priest, what do you need profits for?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Any Now as a hedge fund manager, it does make
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: sense to me to perhaps want to go into the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: fatherhood because you know, you start talking about churches, especially
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: if he has his own, like that's a tax right off,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: and then maybe some of them hedge funds I'm managing
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: turn into blessings that I write off for the church house.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: So Father Emanuel Limbson manages a hedge fund, lives on
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a three acre estate in Boston in a suburb, and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: on weekends tends to his flock at the Saint George
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Greek Orthodox Church in Keene, New Hampshire.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Wow, so my man is basically a hedge fund manager
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: that just does church on the weekends. Okay, man, that's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: a real hustle right.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: There, right, I mean, you really only need a new
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: church on the weekends, you know, Like he come in
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and do the services. He gonna get y'all four services,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you know, two before the football games come on and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: during for the girls who don't care. And I mean
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: he was doing it. He earns one point three million
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: dollars as a result of the stock price falling. Rather
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: than limison addicates an investment philosophy based on Christian ethics.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: So he said, God and the NASDA wants this.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Look, I've always you know, I mean, no
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: disrespect you know, to your to religion or anybody that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: is religious. But I've always been entertained. I've always been
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: entertained by some of the ways that the folks that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: consider themselves holy you can also excuse themselves for this
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: type of behavior.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it's always been one of the harder things
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: for me, because I just think, as a religious leader,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the one thing which I think is impossible for human
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: beings in general. I feel like the one thing though,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: as a religious leader is that you need to abstain from,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: like the obvious sins Like I feel like you shouldn't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: be cheating on your wife, I should you shouldn't be stealing,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be involved in a legal activity, just simply
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: because that's your whole brand. I feel like you have
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to stay away from those vices. And rarely do we
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: see anyone in the religious community abstain from those vices.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: It's giving righteous gemstones.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of folks. I'll just say this, and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I mean again, I mean no disrespect to anybody that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: is religious, but there are a lot of parallels to
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  Speaker 3: pimps and pastors at times.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, we've seen so many pastors, especially I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: don't remember the name of that pastor who recently was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: under fired because he spit during the pandemic into his
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: hand and rubbed it on his brother's face.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that. I don't know his name either, But
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: what do we do even outside of a pandemic?
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  Speaker 1: What do we And I had seen that pastor before
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  Speaker 1: he did that because a homegirl of mine who no
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: longer subscribes to him, but she had n't playing on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a Sunday, you know, after a while weekend, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we turned on church if we couldn't make it during
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: the past. You know, we're good Christian gays, and so
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  Speaker 1: we turned on church. And I just remember he was
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  Speaker 1: so extra, and I was like, sum is up here,
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  Speaker 1: and he's on TV, and it was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: They had a lot of production value that I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't really think it was necessary in church. Like I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: remember one time, this same pastor had a sermon where
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: he was talking about the storm and God and and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: and they had rain on stage and he was standing
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: uh and his name is Mike Todd. Judith Judas our
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: super producer, so his name is Mike Todd. But he
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  Speaker 1: I remember a servant where he had the rain pouring
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  Speaker 1: on the stage and it was like the stage was
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  Speaker 1: full of water and he was stopping around and splashing
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  Speaker 1: and shit, and I just felt like, this is a
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  Speaker 1: waste of funds. Like I feel like a lot of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: money y'all spent on making it rain on this stage
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: for probably three or four sermons today. You could have
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: just donated that and deal with the church is supposed
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: to do and why we don't taxt y'all, which is
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: be a benevolent source in the community and keep your
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: lights on.
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  Speaker 3: You were also not Drew Hill or Missy.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I was given Marion. He was just out here, just
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: in a rage like it felt like he was about
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: to fight for the community center through dance. And as
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  Speaker 1: a pastor, I just don't think we need that from you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you could just give us cute interpretations of
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, send us off with, you know, some good
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: spirits and some good intentions for the demons we're gonna
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: meet that week, and and that could be that. But
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: so you know, pastors, they can get kind of manipulative.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: In one video, he described the difference between and this
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: is a manual, the Hedge fun pastor. He described the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: difference between Eastern and Western Christian views on wealth, including
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: stating that wealth is not a curse necessarily, this isn't
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: quotes while sitting in his Boston mansion, and we're gonna
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: watch a little clip of this in a second while
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: they pull it up. Wow, I think that before we
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: play these, I just want to say, like, I know
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  Speaker 1: that when you're a part of a congregation of a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: church where the pastor is really rich, or you know,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: like Joel Austin, like the TD Jakes, they have multiple churches, cars, books, movies,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. The I think the empathy there lies
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  Speaker 1: in if I follow God and I am a believer
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  Speaker 1: in God, mostly because I'm a gambler and I just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: feel like I'd rather believe in something than nothing. And
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: if you ignore a lot of the wild stuff in
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the Bible and just kind of focusing on being kind
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: to people and helping your neighbor or your unhoused neighbor,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: your neighbor who needs anything, or like just being a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: good kind person and trying to show love to people
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: in the world, that those principles fundamentally are really good.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: And I know a big principle that people kind of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: hold on to when they see their pastors becoming absorbitantly
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  Speaker 1: rich and driving maseratis and lambos and shit to church,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: is like, well, why shouldn't I be able to love
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  Speaker 1: God and make money? Why shouldn't I be able to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: love God and be rich? And I think that you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: absolutely should be able to be a steward of God
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and the fundamental principles, not all that hating of gay people,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: not all that you know, racism, not all that sexism,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: not all the weird stuff, just a good right the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: isms just an earnest part of Christianity. Then yeah, I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody needs to be a billionaire that's hoarding
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: resources and hurting people. But I think you should be
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: able to be comfortable love a goud like. I get that.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with them being comfortable. I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: don't even have a problem with them making having having
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit of money, but agreed, like the billionaire ones,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: the one like I think it was k Kreflow dollar
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: you know what, and my bad Kreflow.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: But not you quotinglow dollar.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was him that had no problem saying, yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: I know, we already have a private plane, need another
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: private plane? Pretty sure about this was a couple of
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: years ago, and I'm sorry man, like for what you
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: got to you had a private plane, but you also
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: have the audacity to say, I know, oh we have
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: a PJ, but we needed.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, we got a fly in the sky with no
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: devils in the house. Jesus, you're getting on a commercial plane.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: You don't know who on that plane. Jesus, you just don't.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: We need a flight log. Well, no, devil's in the house. Amen,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Let's play this inspirational video from headge fun Reverend Manually.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: We have a notion of priesthood which is informed by
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: the lacking or the Catholic Church. Uh and ideas about
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: celibacy and vowels of poverty and so forth.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: A MAO said, I'd be fucking yeah, That's exactly what
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: he said. And I'm rich. Look at his house, this
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: big ass windows, this is outside, and I am reading
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: this Bible outside of his mansion.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: You got a little travel sized Bible, right?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: And why he on the first page, not in the beginning?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey he hitting the lebron. You're just reading that
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: first page the.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Like I read the first page. In the last page
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: of the Bible. I know what's happening.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Were good in the beginning, Yeah, know what happened? Got
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: his he got his road, He got his road.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Raising it's giving big friar energy. Who's living in this
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: house with him? It's painted yellow.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Now, what kind of cars? It's okay? Have a little Benzo.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Mercedes of course wagon at that.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: No it's not. It's not a G wagon though. The
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: G wagon is like the square one. So this is
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: like a mid class Mercedes today and he's keeping a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: class It's probably like a fifty thousand dollars car.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure fifty sixty amazing.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: It's not like a jew wagon is like one hundred
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: thousand at.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Least, you know he got one of those two.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: But that's the car. He dropped the church so he
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: could keep everybody humble. Oh yep, because he just pulled
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: up the church not with thiscase. Okay, his church is small. Look,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: his church is giving humility, got wooden pews. He wanted
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: to respond to guy's call him. God called him up
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: on the hotline.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Blain yep, say say hey, my dog, my dog, we
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: gotta get this.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: God told me to get involved his stops and also
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: in the clergy.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Remember what I said about him.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Look at his he putting on a holy drip. Uh,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: like Steve Harvey is shaking like this is something justentatious
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: holy drip. Okay, now he got his humble service in
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: here reading their bibles.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Baby's like, I don't want to all right.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Now, is he spoon feeding the baby wine?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I think he did baby drunk right, Look.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: At baby like go sleep good tonight.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Mm they feeding him up the same spoon.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go yeah right during COVID, I feel
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to drink out the same goblet.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Y'all gotta give me them. At my church, we had
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: individual cups for communion that had a little wafer on top.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I need that, and.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: That's what came from a warehouse.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Hey, there you go.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: In his twenties, he acquired some good real estate. Oh
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: he's driving to a different home. He was in a
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: different home before.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: I think that might be the same compound.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a how yo church smaller than all
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: your homes.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: In a real Wait, like his home is three to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: four times the size of his church.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Right now, you inviting everybody over for a pop up?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Is he single? I don't see nobody else in these now.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: I think you had it right when he said I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: get it in he said we don't have.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: He brought up celibacy. He was like, yeah, no, the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: girls aren't doing the seller and the besin like.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the busy.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: We're getting a bussy and the pussy either we have
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: a sexuals. We practiced in procreation. Listen, we gotta repopulate
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the earth and I gotta practice. Amen. Who I'm going
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: to hell, So say.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: The song, So say it. I'll be there. I'll be
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: there first. I hold the door.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Literally, I'm gonna be in line. Jesus gonna start pulling
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: up my podcast. I'm like, look, you know, as a jokester, God,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: you made me your image.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Call now Comedian Gate.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Don't pull the lever. Don't pull the lever, make me
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: go to hell. Uh but yeah, so this is a
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: scam of the week. I'm gonna say, Reverend may you, Well,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I'm into this. It seems fun as.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Long as no one's getting hurt. Honestly, it's somebody getting
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: the part of me I was gonna say, part of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: me feels like there's there's some stuff. Yeah, part of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: me feels like they put you know, they put the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: little music underneath to make it sound you know, make
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: it sound peaceful and whatnot. But right, you know, he
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: was like, out, you're not forcing folks to go there.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Right. It was like Wolf of Wall Street. But if
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: it happened on HDTV, Yes, like real, real classy, like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of like exterior outdoor scenes, and you know
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: he was praying. He had a few candles lit for
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the girls, giving that holy ambiance, you know. I mean,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: we've seen a rapper who's doing financial fraud. We've seen
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: a priest. Now he's doing financial fraud. Apparently you can't
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: just do it like Barnie Madoff was a purist. He
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: just did financial fraud. Now the girl's got to have
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: a side hustle, religion affirmations, rapping.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Like exactly twenty twenty two. You can't just get away
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: with one hustle.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: You said that, you said, you said half your family
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: got two hustles, Like I just have one hustle. This
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: is a gig economy, guys. So if you want to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: be a preacher, also maybe consider being a hedge fund manager,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: maybe short some stocks. Right.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Actually, it's the perfect it's the perfect connection for him.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: So you can just you can just pray it in
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: and uh and pray it away and he's fine.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Amen, it might be working. But guys, we've reached the
• 1:13:22
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