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Episode #3963 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive Hour · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: The world-famous Phil Henry Show, the greatest value online other
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Speaker 2: Hi, it's Phil Henry.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's featured Radio Archive Hour. And it is
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Speaker 1: one featuring Dr., this time, Dr.
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Speaker 2: Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 1: And Dean Wheeler is nowadays, of course, up in Northern
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Speaker 1: California with a holistic center, but he was a scammer
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Speaker 1: and continues to be. This is January 2003.
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Speaker 2: As Dr.
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Speaker 1: Dean Wheeler said, And I'm sure there's a book here
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Speaker 1: someplace that he wrote. He says that he was able
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Speaker 1: to convince wives to improve their health by letting go
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Speaker 1: and forgiving their husbands for cheating on them. And I
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Speaker 1: love this hour because Dean is so benign and so
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Speaker 1: he's trying to be a sweet guy and a nice guy.
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Speaker 1: And the women are increasingly getting ready to throttle the guy.
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Speaker 1: And there's a few men in there, too.
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Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 1: Dean Wheeler on forgiving. And I'm not sure if this
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Speaker 1: is the hour where the very famous, would you forgive
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Speaker 1: a man cheating for a short stack?
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Speaker 2: It may be. But I don't know. Let's listen. Oh,
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Speaker 2: one more thing.
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Speaker 1: At the very end of this is a great flashback
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Dauter.
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Speaker 2: What is the book about? Dean Wheeler is with us.
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Speaker 5: Hi, Phil. First of all, I'm very happy to be
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Speaker 5: on your program.
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Speaker 6: And I understand you're doing some training today.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I'm at Chadley Park getting
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Speaker 5: in kind of getting a little shape here for our
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Speaker 5: New York marathon that will.
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Speaker 4: Be coming up.
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Speaker 2: What is your book Healing Indiscretion about?
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Speaker 5: Really, there are a number of ways, Phil, to get
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Speaker 5: the trust of a woman back if you have been
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Speaker 5: unfaithful to her. And sometime after the marriage of a
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Speaker 5: man and woman, every woman will have to face the
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Speaker 5: fact that her husband is going astray. Recognizing that frees
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Speaker 5: a woman from the anxiety of the willy or won't
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Speaker 5: he to he will.
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Speaker 6: Sooner or later, every man is going to cheat on
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Speaker 6: his wife or his girlfriend, and the first step is
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Speaker 6: for a woman to recognize that?
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Speaker 5: The first step is to recognize that because you have
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Speaker 5: to get ready for that moment when you want to
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Speaker 5: heal your relationship and bring him back. And preparing yourself
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Speaker 5: to heal indiscretion, which is the title of my book,
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Speaker 5: women are amazingly resilient, Phil. And once you tell them
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Speaker 5: the truth about what you did and with who, you'll
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Speaker 5: be surprised.
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Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever heard of a book that
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Speaker 6: prepares a wife for the inevitability of her husband cheating on.
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Speaker 2: Her, but I do know.
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Speaker 5: It's just not about that, Phil. It's about getting that
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Speaker 5: marriage back together again. And what we do in our
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Speaker 5: workshops really helps us to achieve that.
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Speaker 6: You've had several workshops in the San Francisco Bay Area
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Speaker 6: on helping a woman forgive her husband after he's cheated
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Speaker 6: on her. Give me some idea of what happens there.
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Speaker 5: Sure, Phil. We've had some very successful workshops. And excuse me,
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Speaker 5: I'm going to get some water here.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead. We're talking here with Dr. Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Phil.
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Speaker 2: And what are you a doctor in?
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Speaker 5: Well, you know something, Phil? I'm a doctor of life
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Speaker 5: more than anything else. I'm just a doctor of life.
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Speaker 2: All right, so you have the workshops, and then what?
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Speaker 5: Well, every weekend up until Thanksgiving, Phil, women are coming
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Speaker 5: from all over to attend our two-day workshop on what
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Speaker 5: to do once he inevitably strays and cheats on you.
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Speaker 5: The goal, Phil, is to accept him and all of
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Speaker 5: his foibles. You want to feel okay about yourself, and
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Speaker 5: then you want to take step three, which is to
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Speaker 5: feel okay about... the two of you as well together.
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Speaker 2: All right. A man cheating on a woman can destroy trust,
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Speaker 2: can't it?
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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't have to, Phil, and we've been proving it.
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Speaker 5: Every weekend, we have three actors that we hire from
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Speaker 5: one of the local acting labs in the Bay Area.
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Speaker 5: We have three actors come in who role-play and act
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Speaker 5: out the scenarios that these couples will face. And I'll
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Speaker 5: give you an example. Last weekend, we had an African-American female,
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Speaker 5: a white male, and a white female, all three of
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Speaker 5: them actors from the Bay Area Acting Lab. The white
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Speaker 5: female played the wife, and we tell the ladies to
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Speaker 5: key in on the actress playing the wife. That's very important.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Now, the scenario is a husband is caught having sex
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Speaker 5: with a cleaning woman, and the wife comes home unexpectedly.
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Speaker 5: What do you do as a woman? Now, this is pivotal.
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Speaker 5: What does she do, Phil?
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Speaker 2: So the black actress plays the cleaning woman, I take it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we want to make it as realistic as possible.
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Speaker 6: All right, so she comes home and she sees her
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Speaker 6: husband having sex with this woman.
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Speaker 5: What should she do? What does she do? Let me
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Speaker 5: ask you that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I imagine she gets angry.
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Speaker 5: And she has a right to feel anger, but I
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Speaker 5: don't think she should express it. What you do is
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Speaker 5: you take your anger back out of the room. And
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Speaker 5: there are some breathing exercises that we give the ladies.
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Speaker 5: And let the woman get dressed and let the maid
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Speaker 5: take the cleaning cart out of the room. And then
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Speaker 5: sit down with your husband and tell him you are hurt.
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Speaker 5: And this is so pivotal, Phil. All right.
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Speaker 2: Let me... recap up to this point if I can't well.
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Speaker 5: There's a couple more steps that I need to.
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Speaker 6: Get through alright I need to give our phone number
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Speaker 6: out and tell everybody we're talking to Dr. Dean Wheeler
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Speaker 6: our number is 1-800-449-8686 he is conducting workshops and has
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Speaker 6: a book called Healing in Discretion how a woman can
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Speaker 6: forgive her husband for cheating on her now you said
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Speaker 6: you're a doctor of what?
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Speaker 5: I'm a doctor of life.
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Speaker 6: Phil I'm a doctor of love I'm a doctor of
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Speaker 6: experience but seriously what is your degree in?
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Speaker 5: I got a degree in life. I really do, Phil.
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Speaker 2: So you're not a real.
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Speaker 5: No, I consider myself to be a real doctor. Yes,
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Speaker 5: I do. And I do want to get through these
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Speaker 5: other steps, if I could.
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Speaker 2: All right, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 6: So up to this point, a woman sees her husband
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Speaker 6: having sex with another woman. She needs to do some
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Speaker 6: breathing exercises, swallow the anger, and then what?
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Speaker 5: Then tell him that he must apologize. We tell the
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Speaker 5: ladies to watch this and watch what he does. You
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Speaker 5: have to lead him. Tell him he must apologize and
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Speaker 5: tell him you are hurt. And tell him you want something.
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Speaker 5: You want something. A weekend away. Some new shoes. A
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Speaker 5: bouquet of flowers.
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Speaker 2: So she's kind of letting him off the hook rather easily,
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Speaker 2: isn't she?
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Speaker 5: Well, Phil, women like simple things. It's not letting him
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Speaker 5: off the hook, but women like simple things. And they're
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Speaker 5: extremely resilient. And all a woman wants, Phil... When the
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Speaker 5: end of the day arrives, all a woman really wants
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Speaker 5: is an honest man, and she can deal with a lot.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think a lot of women
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Speaker 2: will throw these guys out the door.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know something? Before 9-11, I would have believed that.
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Speaker 2: You think things have changed?
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Speaker 5: Most women will forgive a man a lot, because imagine
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Speaker 5: if it had been him at the other end of
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Speaker 5: that sniper scope. Imagine if it had been him in
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Speaker 5: the World Trade Center. Imagine if it had been him
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Speaker 5: opening up an envelope of anthrax. So before 9-11, I
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Speaker 5: think women would have thrown their men out. But now
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Speaker 5: women are more open to forgiving a man, and we
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Speaker 5: learn it and we prove it every day in our workshops, Bill.
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Speaker 5: And Tammy Herzog and her husband Bill, as a matter
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Speaker 5: of fact, had an encounter, and this was a serious encounter,
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Speaker 5: where he had been unfaithful and he brought venereal disease
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Speaker 5: into their home. And she was able to forgive him
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Speaker 5: by saying, A, you have hurt me. B, I am
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Speaker 5: angry at you. And remember step number three, I want something.
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Speaker 5: I want a trip out of town. I want flowers.
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Speaker 5: I want something.
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Speaker 2: And she won't throw him out?
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Speaker 5: Post 9-11, I don't think so. After 9-11, most women
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Speaker 5: will forgive. And you could almost say that that's a
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Speaker 5: lucky break for us as men. Nothing good came from 9-11,
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Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. But if anything good did come
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Speaker 5: from it, A lot of us can probably get away
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Speaker 5: with a little bit more in our marriages.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're not counseling that, are you?
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Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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Speaker 5: I would never say that. But if you were going to,
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Speaker 5: you can probably get away with it. All women really
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Speaker 5: want to do is to let the man know she's hurt.
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Speaker 5: Once she lets a man know she's hurt, she's fine.
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Speaker 4: All right, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Dean Wheeler is with us here.
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Speaker 5: And I wanted to mention that I do prefer to
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Speaker 5: be addressed as Dr. Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 2: But you said to me you're not really a.
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Speaker 4: Well, I am a.
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Speaker 5: doctor. And it doesn't matter. What difference does it make
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Speaker 5: to you?
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Speaker 7: Dr.
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Speaker 6: Dean Wheeler is with us. The book is called Healing Indiscretions.
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Speaker 6: How do you get a woman to forgive you after
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Speaker 6: you've cheated on her? Ladies, how do you forgive your man?
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Speaker 6: You tell him that you have been hurt and that
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Speaker 6: you want something in return. Our number is 1-800-449-8686. And
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Speaker 6: the workshop that you have here where you hire three
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Speaker 6: actors to demonstrate a situation, a black actress, a white actor,
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Speaker 6: and a white female actor, and he's having sex with
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Speaker 6: a cleaning woman?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Played by the black actress.
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Speaker 5: Well, I suppose if you want, the cleaning woman can
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Speaker 5: be white, but we're trying to make it as realistic
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Speaker 5: as we possibly can.
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Speaker 6: And then when the women see this and they see
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Speaker 6: this actress forgiving her husband for having sex with the
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Speaker 6: cleaning woman, then what do the women in your workshop say?
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Speaker 5: Well, we've had a variety of responses, but 95% are
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Speaker 5: positive from women who say, I need to be more forgiving.
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Speaker 5: I need, and I'll tell you right now, if Tammy
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Speaker 5: Herzog can forgive her husband Bill for giving her a
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Speaker 5: venereal disease, anybody can do anything and love wins out.
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Speaker 5: Love conquers. And that's what we really are talking about
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Speaker 5: in our Healing Indiscretion Workshop, Phil.
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Speaker 2: All right, Dean. I'm sorry, Dr. Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 4: Dr.
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Speaker 5: Dean Wheeler. Thank you, Phil.
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Speaker 2: Dr. Dean Wheeler is with us here.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 6: And let's go to a phone call.
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Speaker 2: This is Pam. Hi, you're on the Phil Henry Show
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Speaker 2: with Dr. Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 7: Hi, how are you?
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Speaker 2: Fine, thanks.
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Speaker 4: Hello, Pam.
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Speaker 7: I have a comment. Hi, I have a comment in
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Speaker 7: reference to what you're speaking about this evening.
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Speaker 5: Uh-huh, okay.
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Speaker 7: First of all, 911 did nothing. for women, as far
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Speaker 7: as I'm concerned, to make us more forgiving for infidelity.
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Speaker 3: Are you sure?
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Speaker 5: Are you clear on that, Pam? Are you clear on
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Speaker 5: those feelings?
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Speaker 7: Crystal, absolutely.
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Speaker 5: I've had a different experience, but go ahead.
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Speaker 7: Okay, so be it. But you're not the woman, so
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Speaker 7: I don't know the experience, how you could have experienced it.
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Speaker 5: Well, I work with women every weekend in our workshops,
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Speaker 5: and they have.
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Speaker 2: Told me, Phil, This is as a result of them talking?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 5: They have said since 9-11 they're willing to forgive their
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Speaker 5: husbands a lot because they think, geez, just like the
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Speaker 5: lady who saw her husband having sex with a cleaning woman,
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Speaker 5: she was able to forgive by imagining him at the
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Speaker 5: other end of a sniper rifle.
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Speaker 7: The message that you are conveying is nothing but it's
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Speaker 7: okay for a man to have infidelity in the relationship
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Speaker 7: and to have someone walk in, do breathing exercises, walk
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Speaker 7: back out, and then ask for something? Make sure you
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Speaker 7: ask for something? I would ask for him to remove
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Speaker 7: himself from my house.
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Speaker 5: Well, Pam, I'm sorry you're getting that message. It's really
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Speaker 5: not allowing men to have indiscretion. It's helping women forgive
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Speaker 5: men once they have the indiscretion. It's helping women forgive
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Speaker 5: men no matter what happens.
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Speaker 7: I think that this will give, you'll have a lot
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Speaker 7: of women having to learn how to forgive themselves because
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Speaker 7: this could be continual behavior. And you're setting something up
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Speaker 7: for women to have to start forgiving themselves because of
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Speaker 7: accepting something that isn't okay for the relationship, unless they
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Speaker 7: went into the relationship with that agreement.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask a question in the brochure? His allow
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Speaker 2: him to finish, what does that mean?
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Speaker 5: Allow him to finish his mistake?
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Speaker 7: Allow him to finish his affair?
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Speaker 5: Yes, because that is closure. And stay with me on this, Pam.
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Speaker 5: That's closure.
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Speaker 2: So wait a minute. A woman walks into a room.
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Speaker 2: Her husband's having sex with a woman. Leave until they're done?
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Speaker 5: Yes, that's absolutely correct. And I can tell you, Pam,
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Speaker 5: you should come to our workshop. We have couples that
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Speaker 5: are absolutely ecstatic. That's great.
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Speaker 7: And there's also swingers that are absolutely ecstatic in the world,
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Speaker 7: I guess. And if that's the life that you choose
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Speaker 7: to live.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a swinging thing, doctor?
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Speaker 5: No, these are committed couples. They are very committed to
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Speaker 5: each other. But he strays. He has sex with... I
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Speaker 5: can tell you some sad stories. There was a man
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Speaker 5: who had sex with a young lady he met. She
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Speaker 5: was working as a waitress in a bowling alley. And
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Speaker 5: the wife walked in on him.
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Speaker 7: You know, you can have a lot of stories. And
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Speaker 7: I guess that's really... I don't think that you should
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Speaker 7: be also conveying it yourself as a doctor because you
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Speaker 7: are not one. But anyway, I appreciate the conversation. I've
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Speaker 7: listened to the show a couple times, and this one
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Speaker 7: is almost as bad as the one with the Alzheimer book.
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Speaker 5: Well, ma'am, I am a doctor. I'm a doctor of love.
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Speaker 5: I'm a doctor of life. I'm a doctor of joy,
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Speaker 5: and I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Speaker 7: You have a good evening.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 7: And thank you for taking my call.
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Speaker 5: The Black Mates scenario isn't the only role-playing our actors perform.
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Speaker 5: This weekend we're displaying... a fellatio with a waitress from Denny's.
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Speaker 5: And what this does.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on for just a minute.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, hold on. 1-800-449-8686 is the number here on the
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Speaker 6: Phil Henry Show. This is a very controversial book. Maybe
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Speaker 6: you read about it. Healing and Discretion, which is a
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Speaker 6: way it teaches women how to forgive their husbands when
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Speaker 6: they catch them having sex with another woman. Because according
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Speaker 6: to Dean... And he insists on being called a doctor,
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Speaker 6: although I've not heard any credentials. According to him... Women
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Speaker 6: can save themselves years of physical health problems, such as
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Speaker 6: hysterectomies and mastectomies, if they can forgive their husbands their indiscretions.
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Speaker 2: Very controversial stuff. Very controversial stuff. Should you forgive.
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Speaker 6: Your husband for cheating on you if it saves you
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Speaker 6: the possibility of disease?
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Speaker 8: The Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 2: The Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 9: Is back.
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Speaker 10: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Get my pulse here. Were you jogging?
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Speaker 4: I was.
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Speaker 5: I just want to check my pulse here. Now, my
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Speaker 5: resting pulse is.
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Speaker 6: Well, we're back on the air here, and we're talking with...
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Speaker 6: And I know you insist on being called doctor.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think you need to point out, Phil.
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Speaker 2: Well, you don't.
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Speaker 6: Have any degree that I know of, sir, but I
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Speaker 6: will call you Dr. Wheeler, and I know you're training
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Speaker 6: for the New York Marathon. His book is called Healing Indiscretion,
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Speaker 6: How You Can Forgive Your... husband for cheating on you and.
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Speaker 5: The section of the book you're referring to Phil is
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Speaker 5: for men if you've had an affair and if you
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Speaker 5: have if you've betrayed your wife and you want her
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Speaker 5: forgiveness really the best thing to do when you come
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Speaker 5: home know that she could be very angry so talk
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Speaker 5: about 9-11 talk about how you might have been in
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Speaker 5: that building how you could have died this is going
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Speaker 5: to soften her Tell her, talk to her about the
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Speaker 5: sniper incident in Washington and how it could have been you.
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Speaker 5: This will soften her before you, you know, give her the.
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Speaker 2: Before you drop a bomb on her?
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Speaker 5: Well, we don't like to, but before, yes, before you
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Speaker 5: drop the news.
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Speaker 6: What if she walks in on you like you had
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Speaker 6: this thing?
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Speaker 5: Well, that's an incident where you should say to her...
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Speaker 5: Aren't you happy I'm alive? Tell her how fortunate she
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Speaker 5: is that you're alive. But wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: She's in bed. The husband's in bed with a cleaning woman.
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Speaker 2: The cleaning woman?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I understand, Phil.
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Speaker 2: And as soon as she walks in, she says, look it,
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Speaker 2: I'm alive. I wasn't in 9-11.
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Speaker 5: Well, not as clumsy as that, but something that will
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Speaker 5: remind her of how valuable his life is. Even if
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Speaker 5: he's in bed with a cleaning woman... you know, a
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Speaker 5: Mexican maid from Super 8 or whatever.
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Speaker 2: All right, let me talk to Trina. Hi, Trina, you're
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Speaker 2: on the Phil Henry Show with Dr. Dean Wheeler.
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Speaker 10: Hi, Mr.
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Speaker 9: Wheeler, I just had a call.
17:53
Speaker 5: Trina, I prefer doctorate.
17:57
Speaker 10: Doctorate?
17:58
Speaker 9: Well, when you've gone to school for eight years and
17:59
Speaker 9: you've earned your doctorate, then we can talk about Dr.
18:02
Speaker 4: Wheeler.
18:02
Speaker 5: But I do prefer doctorate.
18:06
Speaker 2: She's going to call you a mister if you don't mind.
18:07
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Trina.
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Speaker 10: Okay, Mr.
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Speaker 9: Wheeler, I think it's absolute lunacy that you would take
18:13
Speaker 9: advantage of women after 9-11 thinking they're as desperate as
18:17
Speaker 9: to serve men and forgive them for anything that they
18:20
Speaker 9: may do.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've proven it with our workshops, though, Trina. Your
18:26
Speaker 5: anger notwithstanding, we've proven that other women can forgive. And
18:30
Speaker 5: I think you could, too.
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Speaker 7: Workshops?
18:32
Speaker 10: What workshops might these be?
18:34
Speaker 5: These are the workshops we're having in the Bay Area
18:35
Speaker 5: and San Francisco.
18:36
Speaker 4: Okay.
18:37
Speaker 5: We'll be having them over the next several weeks up
18:39
Speaker 5: until Thanksgiving. Couples come in.
18:43
Speaker 4: We act out.
18:44
Speaker 5: We do what is called psychodrama, if you've ever heard
18:47
Speaker 5: of it, acting out. And we show a woman how
18:50
Speaker 5: to deal with a man who they've caught in bed
18:52
Speaker 5: with another woman.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 9: And so, like I said, you're taking advantage of what
18:57
Speaker 9: happened on 9-11.
18:59
Speaker 4: Well, no.
19:00
Speaker 11: To further your infidelity.
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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is after 9-11, women are more likely
19:04
Speaker 5: to forgive.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that I... you know, have a
19:07
Speaker 2: problem with.
19:08
Speaker 5: Well, Trina is hostile, and that's all right.
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Speaker 10: Now, you're hoping that they'll be more forgiving.
19:13
Speaker 9: Is that what you're saying?
19:14
Speaker 3: It's not a proven fact.
19:16
Speaker 8: You're hoping that they will be more forgiving.
19:18
Speaker 5: Well, the odds are that they would be. Really? And, Trina,
19:23
Speaker 5: who dumped you?
19:24
Speaker 4: I mean.
19:26
Speaker 2: What's that mean?
19:27
Speaker 5: Well, she wants to call me mister, and she's up
19:29
Speaker 5: in my face.
19:31
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what.
19:32
Speaker 3: You know, you should.
19:33
Speaker 5: Loosen your love lips. What? Don't be so stupid. Stupid?
19:40
Speaker 9: Let me tell you, if you were my husband or
19:42
Speaker 9: my boyfriend, and you tried to cheat on me and
19:45
Speaker 9: think that because of what happened on 9-11, I'm going
19:47
Speaker 9: to buckle down to you, you've.
19:48
Speaker 3: Got another thing coming.
19:49
Speaker 5: Well, the odds that I would be your husband or
19:51
Speaker 5: boyfriend are extreme at best.
19:56
Speaker 9: Well, look, obviously, the women that you're dealing with are
19:59
Speaker 9: that ignorant to become some blonde.
20:01
Speaker 5: And there you go, talking down about other people.
20:03
Speaker 3: Do whatever you say.
20:05
Speaker 9: Some geisha.
20:07
Speaker 3: What, are you kidding me?
20:08
Speaker 5: When you walk in on your husband with your child's
20:10
Speaker 5: math tutor, simply say, Oh, my God, honey, you didn't
20:13
Speaker 5: die today. Can we talk about what you're doing later?
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Speaker 3: Look, 9-11 or not, people are.
20:19
Speaker 10: Going to die when it's their time to die.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they deserve any special treatment because of what.
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Speaker 9: Happened on 9-11.
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Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
20:24
Speaker 5: Well, thanks, whatever that means.
20:26
Speaker 2: All right.
20:29
Speaker 5: 1-800-449-8686.
20:31
Speaker 2: Dean Wheeler was with us, and he is talking.
20:33
Speaker 5: Oh, that's the doctor.
20:35
Speaker 3: Dr.
20:35
Speaker 6: Dean Wheeler is with us, and he's talking about his
20:37
Speaker 6: program that helps women forgive their husbands after they cheat
20:40
Speaker 6: on them.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
20:42
Speaker 12: The Phil Henry Show is back.
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Speaker 6: The name of the book is Healing Indiscretions. It was
20:49
Speaker 6: written by Dean Wheeler. He is a therapist from the
20:54
Speaker 6: San Francisco Bay Area. And it's basically how women can
20:58
Speaker 6: forgive their husbands even after their husbands have.
21:00
Speaker 2: Been completely unfaithful to them. Let me take a sip
21:05
Speaker 2: of water. Excuse me, folks. Let's see. Dean, are you
21:10
Speaker 2: with us there?
21:11
Speaker 5: I'm right here, Phil.
21:13
Speaker 2: Before we go to another call, how did this philosophy develop?
21:17
Speaker 5: Well, Phil, it's an interesting story. I was a young student.
21:21
Speaker 5: I married my wife, Catherine. and we moved to the
21:24
Speaker 5: San Francisco Bay Area. I was at a conference in Toronto, Canada,
21:28
Speaker 5: and I decided that I wanted to drive across the country.
21:32
Speaker 5: It was part of a matriculation that I was doing
21:36
Speaker 5: for a class I was in. I stopped in Georgia,
21:40
Speaker 5: and I met a young lady who was a waitress
21:42
Speaker 5: there in a restaurant, and her name was Jody. And
21:48
Speaker 5: I became very enamored of her. and I flew Jody
21:52
Speaker 5: to San Francisco, and I did have an affair with her.
21:56
Speaker 5: In one instance, my wife did catch us, and she
21:59
Speaker 5: told me she was angry, and I asked her about
22:04
Speaker 5: her anger, and she said she really wasn't angry so
22:06
Speaker 5: much that I was cheating, but that Jody was a
22:09
Speaker 5: much larger woman than her. Jody was very, I guess,
22:11
Speaker 5: what you would call a big-figured or fat, if you want,
22:14
Speaker 5: and that's what hurt my wife. My wife has a
22:17
Speaker 5: great figure, but at that moment, When I had an
22:21
Speaker 5: affair with Jody, it opened me up to a world
22:25
Speaker 5: I had never known before. I was very much enamored
22:28
Speaker 5: of this kind of fat woman. And I explained it
22:33
Speaker 5: to my wife. And I bought her a Mercedes S500,
22:38
Speaker 5: and I apologized.
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Speaker 6: So you're saying it opened you up to a world
22:44
Speaker 6: of fat women or something?
22:45
Speaker 5: Well, I realized that I could take great sexual pleasure...
22:49
Speaker 5: out of women that most men would find repulsive.
22:56
Speaker 2: And your wife understood that?
22:57
Speaker 6: And my wife, Catherine, understood that, yes, after I apologized
23:00
Speaker 6: to her. All right, let me talk here to Colette.
23:04
Speaker 6: You're on the Phil Henry Show, Colette, with Dr.
23:06
Speaker 2: Dean Wheeler.
23:06
Speaker 9: Yes.
23:08
Speaker 10: Dr. Wheeler, the reason I'm calling is basically if I
23:13
Speaker 10: walked in on my husband and he was in bed
23:17
Speaker 10: with another woman... they would both be out of the house.
23:20
Speaker 10: I would not be a puppet for anyone, and that's
23:24
Speaker 10: what a woman that would put up with something like
23:26
Speaker 10: that would be a puppet, that her husband could pull
23:29
Speaker 10: her strings and buy her. Nobody would be able to
23:33
Speaker 10: buy me.
23:33
Speaker 5: Well, I think you're wrong there, Collette. When my wife
23:36
Speaker 5: discovered that I had this deep attraction for larger women,
23:44
Speaker 5: she knew. that it would open up our relationship if
23:47
Speaker 5: she let me indulge.
23:49
Speaker 10: That's a real fine excuse for men to use. I
23:53
Speaker 10: think it's pretty poor, and I think it's sad of
23:59
Speaker 10: what you're promoting. for men to do for the sacrament
24:03
Speaker 10: of marriage.
24:04
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
24:04
Speaker 10: You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
24:06
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying this is how women forgive. I'm not
24:08
Speaker 5: promoting men to do anything.
24:09
Speaker 10: No, women shouldn't forgive. Any self-respecting woman would not forgive.
24:14
Speaker 10: You let a man get by with it once, he's
24:17
Speaker 10: going to do it again and again and again. All
24:20
Speaker 10: he has to do is buy you some roses, buy
24:23
Speaker 10: you a Mercedes. No, I can't be bought.
24:26
Speaker 5: Well, Colette, you can't have a really good conversation with
24:29
Speaker 5: a man while he is suffering. Would you at least
24:33
Speaker 5: allow him to finish?
24:36
Speaker 10: Allow him to finish?
24:38
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
24:38
Speaker 10: You have got to be out of your mind. They
24:41
Speaker 10: would both be out of the house, and my husband
24:44
Speaker 10: would not buy me. I can't be bought. I have
24:47
Speaker 10: more self-respect for myself. and it's sad that you're promoting
24:52
Speaker 10: this for the sacrament of marriage, you should be ashamed
24:55
Speaker 10: of yourself.
24:56
Speaker 5: But if your husband later on was killed in the
24:58
Speaker 5: World Trade Center, you see, then you would feel guilty.
25:03
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't. You would not?
25:05
Speaker 10: If you used 9-11 as an excuse for a man
25:08
Speaker 10: to say, I could have been killed on 9-11, I
25:11
Speaker 10: would say, you're damn lucky I don't have a gun
25:15
Speaker 10: right now because I would kill.
25:16
Speaker 4: Both of you.
25:17
Speaker 5: But you know you wouldn't do that, Colette, because you
25:19
Speaker 5: sound like a sensible woman who's got some justifiably placed anger.
25:23
Speaker 5: But again, consider my situation. I met a waitress at
25:26
Speaker 5: a Waffle House in Georgia. I had sex with her.
25:30
Speaker 5: It was enjoyable. And my wife understood my predilection for,
25:34
Speaker 5: are you a large woman?
25:35
Speaker 10: No, I am not.
25:36
Speaker 5: All right. Do you understand what I'm saying?
25:38
Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
25:39
Speaker 5: I can't hear her, Phil.
25:41
Speaker 2: I collected your phone, drift away.
25:42
Speaker 4: There we go.
25:43
Speaker 8: Oh, there you go.
25:44
Speaker 10: Yeah, is that better?
25:44
Speaker 5: Okay, so my wife said, all right, if you've got
25:47
Speaker 5: a thing for fat women, go for it.
25:52
Speaker 10: I would never do that. Like I said, the sacrament
25:54
Speaker 10: of marriage means too much to me, and if I
25:58
Speaker 10: walked in and I caught my husband with a woman,
26:00
Speaker 10: they would both be gone, and my husband would not
26:03
Speaker 10: be buying me anything aside from possibly paying for the
26:07
Speaker 10: house in the divorce settlement.
26:08
Speaker 5: What about an S500 Mercedes? I can't be bought. You'd
26:11
Speaker 5: get down on your knees for that, wouldn't you?
26:13
Speaker 10: No, I wouldn't. I can't be bought. I have more
26:16
Speaker 10: self-respect than that.
26:17
Speaker 5: How about a chinchilla stole?
26:20
Speaker 3: I wouldn't care.
26:21
Speaker 10: I cannot be bought. And I feel sorry for any
26:24
Speaker 10: women that would allow themselves to be bought. They have
26:28
Speaker 10: no self-respect for themselves. They have no self-esteem.
26:32
Speaker 5: What about braces? Braces?
26:35
Speaker 4: Yes.
26:35
Speaker 10: For what?
26:37
Speaker 4: Obviously for your teeth.
26:39
Speaker 5: My teeth?
26:40
Speaker 10: There's nothing wrong with my teeth.
26:41
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. What do you mean?
26:42
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just talking about I'm trying to be kind,
26:44
Speaker 5: a physical enhancement.
26:47
Speaker 10: I am a very attractive woman. I do not need anything,
26:53
Speaker 10: and any man that would do that would be out.
26:56
Speaker 10: I cannot be bought. I have more self-respect.
26:58
Speaker 5: What about a breast enhancement or these kinds of cosmetic
27:01
Speaker 5: things that you might enjoy?
27:03
Speaker 4: No.
27:03
Speaker 10: I am perfect the way I am, and thank God
27:07
Speaker 10: I'm that way because no man would walk on me
27:09
Speaker 10: and basically... That's what you're promoting is for a man
27:13
Speaker 10: to walk on a woman and use 9-11 as a
27:16
Speaker 10: sympathy ploy. How dare you?
27:18
Speaker 5: I fail to see how it walks on a woman
27:20
Speaker 5: to buy her a new large garage.
27:21
Speaker 10: I can go through another woman and I'll get you
27:24
Speaker 10: a boob job, honey.
27:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how is that, Mr.
27:28
Speaker 4: Wheeler?
27:29
Speaker 5: It is doctor, please.
27:31
Speaker 2: You don't have a doctor degree.
27:33
Speaker 4: I'm a doctor.
27:35
Speaker 5: I'm a doctor of life.
27:37
Speaker 2: All right, listen.
27:38
Speaker 5: Look, I paid over $ 30, 000 for a pair of breasts
27:42
Speaker 5: for my wife, and she's ecstatic.
27:46
Speaker 10: Boy, I'll tell you, she must be a very shallow person.
27:49
Speaker 10: I don't mean to put down your wife.
27:51
Speaker 4: And please don't take that.
27:52
Speaker 2: All right, listen, thanks, Colette, for your call. Let's go
27:55
Speaker 2: over to a gentleman here. Howard, go ahead. You're on
27:57
Speaker 2: the Phil Henry Show, Howard.
27:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dr. Weaver.
28:00
Speaker 5: It's Wheeler, sir.
28:02
Speaker 4: Dr. Wheeler.
28:03
Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
28:04
Speaker 8: You must be insane.
28:07
Speaker 11: I mean, if I went to my wife and said, honey, look,
28:13
Speaker 11: guess what? Just be glad that I'm alive today. You know,
28:17
Speaker 11: I had sex with another woman. Just be glad that
28:19
Speaker 11: I'm alive.
28:20
Speaker 8: Thank God that I'm here. I wouldn't live very much longer.
28:24
Speaker 5: No. Sir, I think you misunderstand me. What I'm trying
28:27
Speaker 5: to say is this. Don't use it as an excuse.
28:29
Speaker 5: But if you find yourself in that situation, there are
28:33
Speaker 5: ways to find a woman who is more forgiving.
28:37
Speaker 2: Well, are you saying to hide it from a woman
28:39
Speaker 2: or what?
28:39
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you said there's ways to find a
28:42
Speaker 11: woman that's more forgiving. So you're saying if my wife
28:45
Speaker 11: won't let me cheat on her for any reason, unless
28:47
Speaker 11: I buy her a diamond or unless I buy her
28:50
Speaker 11: a new Mercedes or something like that, then I should
28:52
Speaker 11: leave her and find a woman that is stupid enough
28:54
Speaker 11: to let me cheat on her. You're insane, and you're
28:57
Speaker 11: not a doctor.
29:00
Speaker 5: I prefer to be called doctor, please.
29:01
Speaker 2: Well, that's wonderful.
29:04
Speaker 4: Right, exactly.
29:06
Speaker 8: You're not even a mister.
29:08
Speaker 5: Sir, if you, for whatever reason, let's say you were
29:12
Speaker 5: in the Army.
29:14
Speaker 4: I was in the Army. All right.
29:16
Speaker 5: Were you married at the time?
29:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were married at the time. All right.
29:19
Speaker 5: What if you came home with venereal disease?
29:21
Speaker 8: How are you going to explain that away? There would
29:25
Speaker 8: be no explaining it.
29:27
Speaker 5: I'm telling you that there is a way.
29:34
Speaker 6: So you're actually saying this guy comes home with a
29:37
Speaker 6: pantload of venereal disease.
29:40
Speaker 2: He's going to... His wife.
29:41
Speaker 5: You guys can laugh, but there is a way to
29:43
Speaker 5: get forgiveness out of your wife. I know women who
29:46
Speaker 5: will forgive cheating.
29:50
Speaker 4: You know what?
29:51
Speaker 8: You probably pay those women. Do you get paid for
29:54
Speaker 8: this therapy you're offering or whatever it is?
29:56
Speaker 5: Of course I do, but it works. It works.
29:59
Speaker 8: More power to you. It's wonderful to live in a
30:01
Speaker 8: capitalist country with ignorant people.
30:04
Speaker 5: It works, okay?
30:05
Speaker 4: I know women. Listen, you guys... I mean, you know what?
30:09
Speaker 8: You should get down on your knees every day, literally.
30:12
Speaker 8: And you should thank God that there are an abundance
30:15
Speaker 8: of insane.
30:16
Speaker 4: Women in this country.
30:16
Speaker 5: All right, I'll tell you, there are women out there
30:18
Speaker 5: that will forgive cheating for a short stack.
30:21
Speaker 4: Oh, that's what I want, Phil.
30:24
Speaker 5: That's what I want.
30:25
Speaker 11: We're lining up for women that will forgive cheating for
30:29
Speaker 11: a short stack of pancakes.
30:30
Speaker 5: You know what?
30:31
Speaker 4: Wonderful. Wonderful.
30:33
Speaker 2: Where are they at, man?
30:34
Speaker 7: What do they look like?
30:35
Speaker 2: Absolutely ridiculous.
30:37
Speaker 5: I'm saying, you're sitting here talking about your wife wouldn't have.
30:40
Speaker 8: Sex with fat women. Well, I'm sure that those women
30:42
Speaker 8: probably wouldn't forgive you for having sex with somebody for
30:45
Speaker 8: a short.
30:45
Speaker 4: Stack of pancakes, man.
30:47
Speaker 8: Come on, give yourself a break. Give everybody else a break, Phil.
30:50
Speaker 4: Howard, Howard.
30:51
Speaker 8: This guy is an idiot. He's a complete idiot.
30:54
Speaker 5: Howard, I'd like to say this, okay, that if you
30:57
Speaker 5: come to our workshop, If you come to our workshop
31:00
Speaker 5: with your wife.
31:01
Speaker 4: You'll find out.
31:02
Speaker 2: Why would anybody want to go to a workshop? I
31:04
Speaker 2: got an idea.
31:05
Speaker 6: How about just having a good marriage, be faithful to
31:07
Speaker 6: your wife, and then we'll never need your freaking workshop.
31:10
Speaker 4: Hey, there you go.
31:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
31:11
Speaker 8: I'd like to go to his workshop.
31:14
Speaker 10: No kidding.
31:14
Speaker 8: But I'm going to tell you, I don't believe that
31:15
Speaker 8: you could find a bigger collection of morons in one
31:19
Speaker 8: room than you could in this guy's workshop.
31:23
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not putting you down. I'm not putting
31:24
Speaker 4: you down.
31:25
Speaker 5: Oh, no, no, you're not putting me down. No, no,
31:26
Speaker 5: not at all.
31:27
Speaker 4: No. No, I'm just saying.
31:29
Speaker 8: You're dealing with morons and idiots.
31:31
Speaker 5: You know, I'm trying to repair marriages. I'm trying to repair.
31:34
Speaker 2: I agree with the other lady. You're encouraging cheating.
31:38
Speaker 4: And what do you mean there's.
31:39
Speaker 8: My wife would kill me. My wife would absolutely do
31:42
Speaker 8: away with me.
31:42
Speaker 5: Let go of your fear. Let go of your fear.
31:45
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
31:46
Speaker 6: You're telling guys I got a surefire way for you
31:50
Speaker 6: to cheat on your wife and still have your wife
31:52
Speaker 6: stay home.
31:53
Speaker 5: I kind of resent the way you put.
31:54
Speaker 2: No, that's exactly the cheap, carny way that it is.
31:58
Speaker 8: That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is.
32:02
Speaker 5: What is wrong with knowing a woman who is so
32:05
Speaker 5: loving that she will forgive your cheating on her If
32:08
Speaker 5: you bought her breakfast at IHOP. Both of you guys
32:15
Speaker 5: are insane.
32:17
Speaker 11: I'm driving a truck right now across Louisiana. I've got
32:20
Speaker 11: to get off the road here and go to the
32:21
Speaker 11: way station. God bless you for having this moron on.
32:24
Speaker 11: I appreciate your patience.
32:25
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
32:27
Speaker 5: I'm a moron, huh?
32:29
Speaker 2: I know women that will forgive you for a short stack.
32:32
Speaker 4: Well, I do.
32:35
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. And where are you?
32:37
Speaker 5: I'm in a park right now. I'm at 80 beats
32:39
Speaker 5: a minute.
32:40
Speaker 6: I don't give a crap about your freaking training for
32:42
Speaker 6: the New York Marathon either.
33:00
Speaker 5: What freeway are you driving on?
33:03
Speaker 3: You would not put your child in a helmet in
33:05
Speaker 3: an automobile if you weren't on a stupid ride?
33:08
Speaker 12: What freeway are you driving on where your car goes
33:11
Speaker 12: up 45 degrees at a 20-story and then goes upside down?
33:15
Speaker 4: Sure.
33:16
Speaker 3: What does that have to do with anything? I'm talking
33:19
Speaker 3: about head-on collisions. You're dead.
33:21
Speaker 12: I've got to put my kid into a helmet in
33:23
Speaker 12: a car. What car goes on a loop in Mickey
33:26
Speaker 12: Mouse's head, man? I just went out on the.
33:28
Speaker 5: It's California Screamin' Ride, and the thing goes upside down.
33:31
Speaker 12: I ain't never been in a car, and I've been driving.
33:34
Speaker 5: Since I was 16, where I go upside down three times.
33:38
Speaker 4: Sorry, man.
33:38
Speaker 3: Oh, okay. So you're in a head-on collision at 80
33:42
Speaker 3: miles an hour, and you have no worth in going
33:44
Speaker 3: upside down on a roller coaster that was designed by engineers?
33:47
Speaker 4: What?
33:49
Speaker 3: I mean, you're right.
33:51
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
33:52
Speaker 3: What am I talking about? Roller coasters and rides are
33:55
Speaker 3: designed by engineers. What? Okay, you take your life into
33:58
Speaker 3: your own hands when you go out on the street
33:59
Speaker 3: in an automobile.
34:01
Speaker 4: In what way?
34:02
Speaker 3: You won't put your child in a helmet in an automobile,
34:04
Speaker 3: but you want them.
34:05
Speaker 4: To put a.
34:06
Speaker 3: What?
34:08
Speaker 4: Hello?
34:09
Speaker 3: Did you hear what I just said?
34:11
Speaker 4: No, what?
34:12
Speaker 3: Okay, you're telling me that you want to put your
34:15
Speaker 3: child or whoever in a helmet and a flag jacket
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Speaker 3: on a ride. But you would not put them in
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Speaker 3: a helmet in an automobile on the streets of the
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Speaker 3: United States.
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Speaker 4: About what?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 4: What do you mean about what? What are you talking about?
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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You're saying that rollercoaster is
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Speaker 3: so extreme because you can fly off the track. What
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Speaker 3: are the odds of flying off the track on a
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Speaker 3: rollercoaster designed by an engineer versus getting in a collision
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Speaker 3: in your car and dying? Do you have any idea
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Speaker 3: what the slim odds are of dying on a roller coaster?
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 2: What are you talking? Are you hearing what the guy's saying?
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Speaker 4: What are you guys talking about, man? I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: No, he just said... Cars are built.
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Speaker 4: By engineers, too.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 7: See?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, great.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so are gumball machines.
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Speaker 4: What's your point?
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Speaker 7: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Are you telling me the gumball machine... You tell me
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Speaker 3: the odds of getting in an accident on the highway
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Speaker 3: versus on a roller coaster. The odds? The odds are
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Speaker 3: of getting hurt on any type of ride at an
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Speaker 3: amusement park is like one in ten million.
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Speaker 4: Can you wait a second? You just did something I
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Speaker 4: think we've got to back up on. You tell me
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Speaker 4: that a gumball machine's not dangerous, okay? Okay.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 5: Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong about it.
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Speaker 4: A gumball machine, what do you mean, oh, my God?
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Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean?
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Speaker 3: What state do you live in?
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Speaker 4: I live in California.
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Speaker 3: Well, hell, that answers it right there.
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Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean?
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Speaker 3: What's that supposed to mean? You make no sense.
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Speaker 4: Dude, I've been sitting here.
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Speaker 3: Can you do this just to hear yourself?
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Speaker 4: Dude, I've been sitting here, Mr.
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Speaker 5: Henry.
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Speaker 2: I agree with the gentleman. This is Tim. I don't
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Speaker 2: understand what it is you're saying.
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Speaker 5: What I'm trying to say is if you put a
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Speaker 5: kid on Mr. Tim, in the teacup ride at Disney,
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Speaker 5: people puked.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Okay, so you're making no sense. You just like
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Speaker 3: to hear yourself talk.
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Speaker 4: No, I made sense. I made total sense when I
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Speaker 4: said put your kid in a black jacket on Mr.
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Speaker 4: Toad's Wild Ride. And you want your kid to... People
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Speaker 4: are dying on the Mr. Toad Wild Ride.
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Speaker 2: Nobody has died on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
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Speaker 3: Okay, did you pay to get into the amusement park?
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 3: Did you pay to get into the amusement park?
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Am I not speaking English?
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 3: Did you pay money... To get into the amusement park.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you mean.
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Speaker 3: Well, yes or no?
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you mean.
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Speaker 3: Okay, did you pay money to go on that ride?
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Speaker 4: What? Okay.
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Speaker 2: The guy's asking you a question about, never mind.
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 2: About going on a ride at the amusement park. Did
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Speaker 2: you pay money?
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you mean. Money!
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Speaker 2: American money.
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