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The New York Yankees Offseason Plans · Yankees Pod

• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Today is Wednesday, November 4th.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Jimmy, alongside our other host, Jabba Chamberlain.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Jabba, how you doing today?
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: Good, man.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's finally uh nice and cold here in Nebraska.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: So when I get up from my morning workout, it was a solid felt like 34.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: So uh it's uh it's getting wintertime around here, which isn't too bad.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll take cold, just no uh just no wind and rain, which we've had the last couple days.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't actually too bad today.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nice, nice.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um it was 70 degrees in it was 70 degrees in New York, so it was it was nice.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: It felt like everybody I've talked to said it's nice, and I'm like, oh thanks.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's nice everywhere else, but here.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: So it's supposed to be 70s next week, but also too, we're the most bipolar freaking weather there could be.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: It could be 70, and then the next day, like it was 70 like three days ago, and three days we could have a foot of snow.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: You just never know.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: All right, all right.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh I hate the cold.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: I hate the cold, so I'm not looking forward to anything.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't mind cold, just don't the other stuff.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fair, fair.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, first topic of the day, we have to say, say it on this day, 17 years ago, the New York Yankees and your host Jabba Chamberlain won World Series number 27, beating the Philadelphia Phillies in six games for their 27 title.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Jabba, how does it feel this being 17 years away?
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on it and just anything you remember from that time?
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's weird to think it's been 17 years, you know.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't it you never want to give your parents credit, right?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: But they say as you get older, time goes faster.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're 100% right.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't like to give credit where credit's due, but sometimes you have to.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, no, it's crazy.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: And and to look at you know, all this stuff that is that has happened in 17 years, and you know, it was funny when when people started tweeting it and it was like, yeah, I was just graduating, and oh, my son was nine at the time, and this, that, and another thing.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I'm just like, wow, it's um it's interesting.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, there's one thing about the Yankees though, a lot hasn't changed there.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so um, as as we've touched on, but yeah, somebody asked me, it was like what I'm I literally the the one thing I do remember is I almost tripped um coming out because it's just like everything was happening so fast, you're like everything that you ever wanted to happen in your baseball world is like literally in front of your eyes and you're just standing there.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: You don't know what to do.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: I feel I feel like I'm you know, Ricky Bobby and Talladega Knights.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to do with my hands.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: I I literally I didn't know what to do, so I jumped on the pile and stuck my hand up like an absolute idiot.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: But um no, I mean it's it's crazy to think about.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: I was actually looking at a picture of of my son in it, and you know, he's all bundled up and everything, and we're walking in the clubhouse, and now he's a junior in college, and just like it feels like yesterday, but it feels like freaking a lifetime ago.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_02: So um yeah, it's it's weird how uh you know we talk about it.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'd I'd like to be talking about other stuff, um, about a team that did it again, because that means winning has happened, but you know, that's the as they say, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, cool to be uh to be part of it.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: But uh 17 years is a long time to go in between.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: So hopefully that changes uh here in the future, and uh we can talk about this new team that wins again.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Question How much alcohol was consumed in that like three, four-day span?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you gotta remember too, like you haven't eaten for four hours, so like everything is literally just happening so and you're not drinking half of it at the time, it's getting sprayed.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like, right, we'll we'll have to bring Carter on to this day, 21 years old, and he hates champagne.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: And he'll I I don't want to blow the story he's told it before, but I'll let it I'll let it from from his mouth why he hates champagne to this day.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have him on a special guest.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's he should be in study hall right now, so you never know.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um we will absolutely have Carter on.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to hear the story.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, that picture of that picture of you and Damon is iconic.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, because obviously I was trying to find one of you celebrating, but that picture is just so so good.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and I and I was watching the clips of you like pitching in the eighth inning of a couple of those games up a few runs.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: So, like you know, like it's easy to forget, but we also have to remind people and say, like, hey, there was some pretty cool stuff going on with Jabba Chamberlain in the World Series as well.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you pitched in game.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: How many what games did you pitch in?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: I pitched in every clinching game of that.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So every game that Pettit started, I pitched in, and then um, I guess we won the game that I gave up the game tying Homer because Johnny, that was the that was the play that he took uh took third um when you could have the shift.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: So uh yeah, so I won a game and then I pitched in every every clinching game.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was uh that was the that was the postseason that Soach got mad because we could we only needed three starters because the extra off day.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah, I remember that.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, you know, and then you go back out and you see you see highlights of you know when AJ went out and and shoved and put us in a good position, and it was uh yeah, you go back and look at everybody.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like there were so many keys to that team that won that that made it special.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's uh it's cool to say, you know, it's cool to I guess be the last one.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, that you you run out of stuff to talk about sometimes unless somebody gets real creative and thinks of something.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, that question today from from the fans too was good because I was like, honestly, I I really don't remember.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like I remember talking to Tex, um, and he was like, honestly, I don't remember catching the ball.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I could see that now Texas now Texas a congressman, so yeah, shout out to Tex, shout out to Tex, uh Congressman Toshera.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty cool, pretty cool stuff.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, definitely interesting.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um I was told yesterday uh because I gave a a Jonathan Taylor note for the the New York Giants, and someone told me that uh to stick to baseball.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, uh damn, but like I always say, like, uh when it comes to politics, I stick to sports.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a big stick to sports guy, like huge stick to sports guys.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'd rather be crazy and have the New York Yankees being like, why is this guy tweeting me for the 14th day about Taroaki's auto instead of any of that other stuff?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um uh yeah, you know, it is what it is.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Tex.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, we have we have the the hot stove.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get to the hot stove.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, shout out to Jack Curry, who does really just an amazing job.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: And when he talks, like you have to listen.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: And Jabba, I mean, I have to start with the the main takeaway, and I was pretty upset.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, he said that the Yankees and Sato seems very unlike it, unlikely, kind of makes me disappointed.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still not gonna stop.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: There's no stopping me.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're full-fledged forward, and when Sato hits 30 home runs for the Arizona Diamondbacks, I'm gonna say, hey guys, remember this?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because everybody, everybody points to the errors, and then we don't have guys that can hit the baseball.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, again, I can go on it for 20 minutes and we'll get to that later.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: But other than the Sato stuff, what was the biggest takeaway you had from the hot stove?
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Jack's great.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, obviously spent spent some time with Jack.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I I just think when you have a heartbeat in the clubhouse, you kind of get a different perspective than you know, kind of on the outside.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it's always nice hearing that.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I Jack's not the only one.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: I've I've heard it from a lot of a lot of people that I've talked to about um Asado and kind of what uh what they see.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: I that's obviously you don't really know how it translates, and and we've seen good, bad, and indifferent as far as that goes.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um we've also seen the the aspect of you know going after him and then coming in second and third or whatever, but we'll we'll get to that.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: I I just think it's a lot of the things that that he touched on too.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think one of one of the ones that we have kind of talked about too is like you know, the trade pieces and what do they want to get, who do they want to get, what you know, the Spectre Jones thing and congratulations to him too, he just got engaged.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um But I I just think where where do you add and subtract?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I think obviously the bits and pieces of kind of what he you know touched on as far as you know, Bednar and the bullpen and getting, you know, the third baseman.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I think we obviously need to add depth in the outfield with kind of with where we feel like things are gonna go with with guys that that are there and that are done that we're not gonna bring back, but and and obviously don't really know where Judge stands as far as you know his health and and what he is able to do if he if he wants to stay in the outfield, if if he's gonna try for his base.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's all it's all throwing it up because you don't really know what's gonna happen.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: But I just think when when Jack kind of points at the things that we need to like adhere and adjust to and like go after, I I think it it makes sense.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: And the ones that he touched on and and some free agents and what are we gonna do with the guys that we have.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I think when it comes down to it, I think it's really you know the bits and pieces.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: What is the construction of the roster gonna look like?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, are you going to concede that Stanton's obviously just gonna be a date?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: So that takes up one spot.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I think when he touched on it, I think it's kind of the construction of what they want to do for the roster and what they see fit.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously, not giving a QO to Jazz and giving it to Bednar, we kind of thought that was gonna happen.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um and we've seen that we know that we know that, yeah.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, and you know, now that everything came out obviously on Monday as far as posting in QOs and free agency and all that stuff.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, it's it's gonna be interesting because is it going to be the way it felt in 21 and 22?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: With you know, people getting in.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, there were some deals done afterwards, and we, you know, no stoppage and what have you, but I I could see a lot of things happening and talking to some people.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I don't know how much it's gonna move until stoppage actually happens, which I don't want that to happen.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there is dialogue, how much dialogue really is getting in one ear and out the other?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I it the thing that frustrated me, because I didn't get to watch the hot stove live, so I watched, I read an article on the hot stove.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: But what really frustrated me personally, and the Yankees are kind of tied, have a hand tied behind their back with this salary cap proposal, because you know, they spent$300 million last year, and if the caps, if the caps at$260 million, you have to kind of like stop spending, which is crazy to say about baseball.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I never want the Yankees to ever stop spending money, but um yeah, it is really crazy.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: But the problem I had with the entire thing is that it looked like it was gonna be a lot of internal improvements.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like they talked about second base, and they said it's either gonna be Volpe or Caballero or Luis Garcia Jr., which is like, okay, like you know how I feel about Volpe.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: We know how about you you feel about Volpe.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're on different total polls, and I would say 90% of Yankees fans are siding with you on the Volpe situation where you can't just give them uh the position.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, and then so you look at second base and you're like, okay, maybe we'll try Garcia there, maybe we'll try Volpe there, maybe Caballero.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Or do you like internally then and if if that's if that's the route they're gonna go, so let's go your route, right?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: So then do you split Garcia and Ben Rice at first base?
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: But then you're you're losing depending on one gets hot or not.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said earlier, with Stan, not I'm I'm not saying he's taking up the DH in in one aspect, but you're you're kind of pigeonholed in that way to to be able to utilize and you you struck lightning in a bottle with with Garcia to use him.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's like, okay, we got to use one or the other.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a platoon DH now?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: Or like how like so that that's just where too, I think if you if you give that to Volpe at this point, it's it's kind of when it comes back to it, roster construction.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Is is that the way you're going?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, it's his.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you've given him every opportunity under the sun with A B's, with position change, with I mean, even you know, he was overtaking ground balls at third.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I get you like the kid.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: I I I'm not saying he's not.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: I it he's he's a great player.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't know if he's as great as they think he is, but I think he's better than what he's shown on a consistent basis.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know what?
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that I hate to say it, I really hate to say it, but I think that the Yankees are probably better off without Giancarlo Stan.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because I really do like, listen, he's an excellent power hitter.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: He would be great if we had him healthy in the postseason, but in the regular season right now, giving the guy that DH position to be like, hey, you're getting half a day off to Judge or Garcia or Ben Rice, like to any of those guys, and like no offense to Giancarlo, but like he doesn't really deserve to have that DH position.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: He literally played like he was not there.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then I don't know.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, again, if you want him in spring training, if you want to keep him on the IL and somebody gets hurt and then try to play him, I'm here for that as well.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: It just, you know, it just I think it's unfair to the other guys who work and and and kill themselves day in and day out to not give them that half day, and you know, then we get upset when Aaron Judge isn't in the lineup, and Aaron Boone could be like, hey, well, we kind of have our hands tied here.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I yeah, it's it's tough because obviously the Marlins are still paying a little bit of that, but they're also the Yankees are paying a big chunk of it.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: And when he's healthy, we obviously he can change the game with one swing.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um does he kind of block the base pass a little bit when that happens?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, there's obviously a lot of pros and cons to the situation.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think you you kind of just go at it and do the pros outweigh the cons or do the cons outweigh the pros.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and who knows?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: He could come back in after an offseason, whatever that looks like at this point, and you know, figure something out.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, with with the way medicine and and training and knowing the body and all the advancements in that way, maybe there's something that he unhinges and and figures something out.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um but where I don't want to I don't I don't want to dog him.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm no no I mean you're not you're essentially you're not because when you when you tell the truth and see the writings on the wall, like it it's on the wall.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like you've seen what he played the outfield, and you're like, okay, let's give him a day so he doesn't get hurt.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like going into it, yeah, you're gonna do a little bit of that load management or whatever people want to call it, but then it's like okay, he's his last five for seven, but he needs a day.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that just sucks because it takes momentum out and it changes the lineup, and it's just there's a lot of moving parts to it, I feel like.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I may be over indulging in like the little things about it, but yeah, he played two games in a row, he played in the outfield once, then he DH'd.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's time to sit, but you know, he's hit two homers in his last eight at bats with a double, and he's drove in five.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, sorry, you gotta sit.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and you feel good, and I can understand that, but like I said, it's a lot of moving parts, and it's a lot of kind of like, hey, you're you're kind of blocking the situation, and it it's not meant to like dog him or like be you know negative, it's just kind of this is the writing on the wall.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is the situation.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: If we go forth with him, that that's gonna be the way it is.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I really like Giancarlo, I think he's a great leader.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: I just like his his body has failed him, and we have three guys that need to dh.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we need well if he wasn't so strong, you can't pull fat, like eat some more cheeseburgers, dog.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right, right, absolutely.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, no, because we I mean Ben Rice should not be playing first base every day, like like also he needs days off there.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: I he's young, but uh the main point is Aaron Judge needs days to rest.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: He we need to protect him at all costs, and I'm sorry, like Giancarlo just isn't as valuable to the New York Yankees in 2026 and Aaron Judge's period stop.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: And like I think that's a very fair assessment to make at this point, and I don't think Giancarlo would disagree either.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I you know, I don't want to make it about Giancarlo thing, but like, so the next thing we could talk about is just like upgrading third base.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: And again, like I I will say I do have a story to tell because I was out to dinner with my wife, and there's these two guys with Yankees hats on, uh, and they're Japanese.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I was talking to them a little bit.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, dude, I like your hat, like big Yankees fan.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, first thing I said, I was like, you know Tarowaki Sato, and they're like, Sato, Sato, Sato.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, is he good?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, he's an amazing hitter, an amazing hitter.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, but can he play third base?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: And they were like, nah, I don't, I don't know.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: So they're also guys that are like ball ball knowers uh that I happen to know, and they were not in on his defense.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's not gonna stop me personally, but I can see why a more intelligent man would be like, he can't play third base.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: We already have infield issues, so like it is a little bit of a deterrent, but I had to tell the story.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to those guys.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the other third base decisions would be like trading for someone, and it's really hard to say, like, oh, we're gonna trade with the Houston Astros, or we're gonna trade with another team.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, they probably like their third baseman as well.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: So in that case, you have to look at guys like Will Warren and uh definitely, I mean, Jason Dominguez, I would trade him in a heartbeat if it meant adding a third baseman.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I hate to say it.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to kind of look at like, all right, kind of the situation with the Soto stuff, is like, all right, what do we have?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like that year they had eight starters and they were and two were expendable, and we got rid of a really good guy in Michael King, and you know, and the Padres made out like bandits because they got a lot of good years out of King, and the Yankees almost won the World Series.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: So if Sato isn't going to happen, then we, and and I mean me and you too, like we have to come up with trade packages so that you know the rumblings start to happen.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if it's a parade, is or you know, I I'm not gonna say sit here and say that I know every third baseman, but like there's a guy out there that the Yankees could get.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: We need to go trade starting pitching for it and see if we can get it done.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you also got to remember you got to get rid of McMahon's salary too at that point.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: So you gotta you gotta figure out what you're gonna do with that.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I I think there's something to be said about filling the position.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: Do you need it?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: And it comes back to one thing I always what are they willing to give up?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: At this point, I feel like if you're gonna get somebody that is going to be able to change the lineup, extend the lineup, give a little bit of protection for judge, is you're you're gonna have to give something up.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: And to what extent, I don't know.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's some guys obviously in the minor league system that that have shown promise.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: You actually, you know, you have some big league.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I say big league ready because they've shown that they can play in the big leagues um to be on a daily basis.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: To see what they could do.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's some guys that are obviously gonna get that chance.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: The young ones, I think you've kind of gotta pick and choose who you're who you're gonna give up.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: If you're gonna get a caliber player that's going to get you what you I'm not saying everything, you know, this this isn't best case scenario, this isn't worst case scenario.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's like give me give me the good version of consistency defensively.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: You can you can bridge a couple and know what you're gonna get day in and day out.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you're gonna have to give up something to get that.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And anything more than that, you're gonna have to give up a lot.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think they're willing to give up a lot.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think they're willing to give up something if the player is right.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: I I just like I'm at the point where I'm I'm willing to give up a lot, um, just because that position is tough.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: And like, listen, if there's a team out there, listen, I Colorado Rockies, you know, Arizona Diamondbacks, Cincinnati Reds, somebody, anybody.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to take like four million dollars of that Ryan McMahon contract, even five million dollars of the contract, we could kind of just give you them.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I feel like that might be the best case scenario for the New York Yankees.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, sorry to say to Ryan McMahon, but the man got paid, so I mean it shouldn't be that big of a of a thing.
• 23:22
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• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so what are we going to next, Lucas?
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we kind of hit on this.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Detnar gets the qualifying offer.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Jazz did not does not.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um good.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't want to say good riddance.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: I like Jazz.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: I just think I don't know.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't love a lot of things that happen with Jazz this year, and um, I'm hoping for the best for him.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: I hope he goes out and he hits 40 home runs and he steals 40 bases for another baseball team.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: I truly do.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: I hope nothing from the best for him.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just didn't seem like a fit there.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: But let's talk about Bednar.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about Bednar because he gets a qualifying offer.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: He gets the$23.1 million.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Now, is he gonna take that?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think he takes a qualifying offer, or do you think they try to get a two or three year deal done?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: I honestly don't know.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like I said, when we touched on this, I I could see it going either way.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um listen to some other guys, the just baseball guys, they were talking about like the Yankees and the Pirates being a good fit, which obviously the Pirates is is kind of self-explanatory if you follow it.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I think he's obviously one, I don't think he's gonna take it personally.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, it's fine and it's great.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the qualifying offer will be no more after after this year, but I think with the year he had, not only regular season but postseason and answering the bell and you know what you're gonna get out of them.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's gonna probably want more of two to three.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um I d I don't think they're gonna give they're not gonna give any more hater deals of of five, six years anymore.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't think they will.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I think he he could get close to 20 for a multi-year deal, two to two to three years, three probably a little bit less, but he could probably get two in the 40 range um if they're willing to do it.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: I just I don't foresee him taking the qualifying based on the year that he had.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, obviously you're you're taking a risk, 23 million, still a lot of money, don't get me wrong.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: But if you can secure an extra year and some more money just for stability and the understanding of what you've done, I I can I wouldn't say I'm 50-50, but I'm probably he's probably I would say 70-30 not gonna take the QO.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he doesn't have he has some time, he doesn't have a lot of time, so there's there's no care, there's no carry over December 2nd.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: So he's gonna have to decide one way or the other.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: We'll find out.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think that he likes being a Yankee.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think he deserves a multi-year deal.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think that a fair number Oh, life messenger two-year deal for sure.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: If it's a two-year deal, like sign me up, does it 18 million a year?
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: I think that a fair, I think fair for both sides would be three years, 50 million.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, not even like not even 51, 52, not like 53.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like that guy gets to be a Yankee for his three most prominent years of his career.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: He gets a he gets a bag.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think he could probably, I think that's really where it sits, like three years, 51 million.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: And um, but now we have to kind of be stingy with our money because of this MLPPA stuff.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because we don't know, like, you know, we say now, like, oh,$15 million,$20 million, it doesn't matter.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, in 2025, it didn't matter.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, really, what we did, it was just like tax money, but now it kind of does matter.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be really interesting to see because in 2028, there let's get to the proposal stuff because I feel like that's yeah, it's all leading in that direction.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're leaning in that direction.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: So but no, like you said, I I is that that's gonna be obviously they've had the dialogue with with what they've from the cap and the floor, um, and that changes a lot.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then with what happens, they're talking about okay, well, we'll have a transition year, obviously 2027.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I just like I said, the people that I've talked to is that they're not gonna move.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, obviously, they they we we as the players association made the statement of fans and all the other stuff, but I don't think there's really gonna be movement as far as as anything really that lands, you know, in in the in the setting concrete, not the not the full-blown set concrete where I think it's gonna take some games being missed, which sucks because I don't want to see that.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: I just I think the cap is is interesting how people see it.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um listening to Doug Lanville this morning on uh MLB Network Serious, you know, and just obviously a guy like that, you know, you listen to just because he you know played the game, super smart man, and and just understands the dynamic of the owner's side with the player side.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: So I just it'll be interesting because you saw with you know the floor and and the ceiling and the cap meaning that, but you know, there's almost half the teams that are like, oh, well, we have to spend money now.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're they already could, and now it's like, well, we have to.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: What I mean, so really what's the luxury tax at that point?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: Does it really even matter?
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I have no problem with the floor.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I really don't.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't have a problem with the billionaire spending their money.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I it's not a boo-hoo game.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you're a bad owner, get out of the sport, tell sell it to another rich guy.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have no problem with that.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: The problem where I really have it is that ceiling doesn't even really make sense.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: It it doesn't, it's not high enough.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: It just really isn't high enough.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: How do you tell a teen that spent 300 million dollars a previous year to spend 40 million dollars less?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make sense to me.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: And like, I I I really don't think it's fair if you want to do it so that it starts with 300 and then goes to 290 and then goes to 280 and then goes to 270 and then hits the 265 mark or whatever, I'm here for it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: But to just do this whoop, swoop, and pull doesn't make sense.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I I hate the Dodgers, but like it's not fair to the Dodgers either.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not fair to the Mets, and it's not fair to the Yankees.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't want to hear these like the these team, we should all just come together and just find something that makes sense for both sides.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I know negotiations are just like back and forth and whatever, but like, why don't we just start with a hunt a hundred million dollar floor and a three hundred million dollar ceiling?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't we just stay there and be like, all right, we're gonna do this, we're gonna relook at this in two years.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it makes it fair for the Dodgers and it makes it fair for the Yankees and the Mets.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, you're gonna have to cut a little bit of space, but for the Yankees to have to like not, they're not gonna pay a closer, they're not gonna pay for a third baseman because of the negotiations, it doesn't seem fair to me.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd really like it to be hundred floor, 300 top, and I think that's fair because you know what?
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: At this point, anyways, the Yankees aren't really spending that much over$300 million, anyways.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, at least get it to that where these guys don't want to pay the tax.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's just my thoughts on the situation.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: I know that it's like you have lawyers just talking to each other, basically, and I know that that like, and obviously, I'm like, I'm just a fan.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't have like the I think it's good that the salary floor, I mean, this the salary floor goes from$800,000 to a million dollars for every player.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think that every player in the big leagues deserves a million dollars.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so there are some like decent things, but then they try to hoodwink you.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm reading this stuff and I'm trying to see both sides, but my proposal is$100 million floor,$300 million ceiling starting in 2028, renegotiate in 2029, and work together because I would like to see a smooth transition because Manfred's not gonna be here for much longer.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's retiring soon.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I would like there to be maybe there's a commissioner who's a player.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why not?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there should just this baseball needs to expand.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: We the last thing we need is a lockout.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: The last thing we need is for players and people that they should be looking up to not agreeing with each other.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I I know I I sound, you know, I might sound like I I don't know anything, but also at the same time, it's like, why can't like why can't we come to 100-300?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like that should be the starting point.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: If you want it down to 265 in 2035, all right, maybe talk about it another time.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: But the last thing the baseball needs is a work stoppage.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that it's gonna happen.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, I think that a work stoppage is gonna happen, unless maybe I need to start like screaming about maybe day one of Sato should be day one of talking to the players and uh the commissioner who I happen to know, uh, and I think he does a really good job, but um he works for the owners.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: So at the end of the day, um, yeah, sorry for going on that rant there.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, I mean I it's it's such a process with the numbers and you know, sitting in those meetings, and you know, and and a lot of it goes above your head just because there's so much that goes into these numbers and and how they even come up with them.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I I think realistically it's it's always what the players association stood for is what the guys did before us to allow us to make the money that we do now.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it was because they didn't give in.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you kind of look at you know you've seen stories about how it's gonna, you know, allow you know, certain teams, you know, a better, I guess more parity of whatever.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like we've had more parody in the teams that have won.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you look at this year as a huge example of it.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: But I I just the numbers in the compromise, there there's some where, you know, obviously the instead of six years, five years, but one less year to make a make a big amount of money.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you still have arbitration.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's just I I don't I don't like a work stoppage.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: I just I think everything with what's happened, you know, two years ago and and how we had a basically a global world series, and then you completely flip in the game of baseball where it's like, okay, these guys are supposed to win because they spent the most money, right?
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, now you know you see a team like the Brewers win, and you know, I think it's just it's in a really good spot.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're getting a lot of younger kids involved in the game with you know the things that they've done to try to, you know, not make it such a an old school game, which us old school baseball guys do love and and you know don't like some of the new stuff, but really like some of it as well.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I I think it's just in such a good spot that you know work stoppage would stink.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know if how far away they are.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't think they're close.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think they aren't really in the same building right now.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: They're definitely not sitting at the same table.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um so and they would it's gonna change.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know if it's gonna be daily, but it's gonna change a lot.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm I'm really excited from from two standpoints of obviously seeing what happens, good, bad, or indifferent, because we know something's gonna happen.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's exciting.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um and also what's gonna happen, you know, with guys signing.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna sign early, gonna sign late, are they gonna wait?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we kind of saw this with with the attempt in the 2021-22.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, 21 free agency going into the year 22.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: They're still gonna have GM meetings and stuff like that.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, we saw over what was it, like one almost 1.7, 1.8 billion dollars in 21-22.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, that free agent class was was a little deeper than than this one is right now.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think you had eight guys that signed over a hundred million dollar deal.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think Freddie Freeman was the last after the December 2nd date, but I I can foresee that happening.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, Scoobyl's the number one guy, it's gonna be north of 325.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, people aren't gonna like this, especially from from our world in Yankee land.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: But I think if the Dodgers are close, he's probably going back there again.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um so it's just there there's a lot to be seen that's gonna come.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know from the proposal side.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I I don't know if they're in the same building.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: I sure I sure know that they're not at the same table.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, time will tell.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, we have you know a lot of things that happen that we can cover when we're on here again that uh kind of lead in a good direction and not so much of a stalemate or you know, they say less is more sometimes, but in this case, uh we need more and and not less of it.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just it's frustrating as a fan.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't I don't I don't I don't understand why there needs to be a cat.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't understand.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, if you want to argue the Dodgers, fine.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_01: And if you want to make that number astronomical or$300 million, fine.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: But like I just I can't feel bad for these billionaires.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just can't.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's too many players that like one year, two years, three years for a million dollars, that's like really, really important to a lot of these players.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: And like, I don't have a problem with like calling out the pirates owner.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I have no problem with being like, hey, pirate's owner, you're not gonna pay your guys because because what?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're making a little bit more money, like just because they don't have to either.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and instead of replacing the players, replace the owners, like replace the owners at that point.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, I I just I don't have I don't have time for it.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: And and and that's not even saying to how, like, it's nothing to do with how how spends$300 million.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: Does he do it correctly?
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, at least he's spending the money.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: So this is on these these other owners who are penny pinching because they want to, you know, because of their they don't want to pay for their seventh or eighth house or whatever like that.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have time for that really.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm on the player's side a thousand percent this time, one thousand percent this time, and I think that that a cap should be at 300.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's fair.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: I really do think that's fair.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: I personally would like the Yankees to spend$600 million a year on their roster.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, but we have to be reasonable, and I think$300 million is a decent number.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the reported proposal per Ellen Evan Drelich was the salary cap begins in 2028, as you mentioned.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the$258 million cap,$180 million floor, um increased from$245 million the prior one, which$245 million is such an upsetting number.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if I was a player too, I'd be upset with that.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: $1 million minimum salary compared with$780,000.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we like that one.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, free agency after five years instead of six.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: Again, we like that one too.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: I personally think the players after four years, like I think it's crazy that we do this qualifying offer to these guys.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like if football is four years and then you get paid.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand why.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think that we should be taking notes from football.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to go the salary cap way, then do the four years because like I I really don't know.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: I and then and then obviously the MLP PA um.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you gotta remember too, their their rookie contract structure is so different.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're that's why they do four, because it ours is just a signing bonus.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: You're making, you know, seven, eight thousand dollars a year in minor league baseball, and unless you sign for a buttload of money, then obviously you're going into your signing list.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're you're obviously making money, and it's hard to go with the NFL because they really don't have a minor league system.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, hey, you've got all this money, you're gonna play, or you're gonna be the backup.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I can see where you're coming from, but it's just so hard with with what we have compared to everybody else to kind of I mean you can pick bits and pieces, I guess, but you can't really go off years and and how they do it because the games are so different, and our structure of getting to the pinnacle of what it is is not like, hey, you get drafted and you go.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's only been a handful of players that that's actually happened to.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but so to look at some of the other ways that you know that they've structured their caps or however, you can kind of look at them, but I just think ours structurally from the way baseball is made up is is completely different.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're absolutely right.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're absolutely right.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: I just hate like when a player's like 29, 30 years old and they're finally getting paid, and it's like, well, they're not even really, really in their prime anymore.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know that that's like the disappointing thing for me because I think that you know, you know, it's just like some of these.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they should have been better.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like it it took them a long time for the right place at the right time, and you know, kudos for them for going because they've probably been playing in the minor leagues for seven, eight years.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I it's crazy when I'm like looking at guys in arbitration, I'm like, they're still in arbitration.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are we talking about?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, they've been in the majors for like I feel like if you're in the majors for three plus seasons, like and are playing every day, like, yeah, that should be an exception.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what I mean?
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I know it's hard to nitpick, and I again, I know I'm not that smart when it comes to litigation and salary cap and all that stuff.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, um, but yeah, that was just my like my whole thought process on it is that like that's an asinine number.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: It it like if you want to say like 285, 29, what are the Yankees even gonna do?
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: Then they can't all like they they're they're just gonna run it back again, like that's gonna happen.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: The Yankees are gonna have to run back like they're basically the same exact team and not be able to spend money, and then like then we're just like celebrating every single time somebody gets off the books.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I mean they've ran it back plenty of times, so it would it would be a little different because you'd kind of be forced to, I guess, but yeah, I don't like I said, I I don't foresee obviously this this getting any legs.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see, you know, kind of where that where this goes from here.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's gonna be dialogue, but it'll be interesting to see in which direction does it lean.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: D do they want to you know basically give that that gap year?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, as people call it, to where it's 2028.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um the obviously the I think the cap like ceiling, I think has to probably be a little bit higher for any any conversation to move forward.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: But like I said, there's so much that goes into that number that we could be way off.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_02: The owners could be like, okay, this is what it is, but really at the end of the day, they're billionaires before they have a baseball team.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: So them losing a few games and not getting what they wanted, they're gonna be okay at the end of the day.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: Players, obviously, you know, there there's gonna be some where it it hurts more so than the others, and that's just kind of what it is.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why I say hopefully this can benefit everybody where it doesn't hurt anybody, and and everybody kind of gets what they deserve in some capacity.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, I know there's gonna be some give and take, and there's gonna hopefully be, you know, kind of an equal number of give and take, and and not more take than give, and and they're obviously not gonna let more give than take.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll we'll see where it stands here in in a week or so.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm already cooking up content in my head for like just listen, like I just have to maybe I have to talk to the players and the owners, and like so maybe I have to just start day one of negotiating with myself.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think that might be a decent content idea.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's talk about Brad Osmiths, who had an interview with um the Houston Astros.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um the Astros have an opening and um he met with them about it.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: So if Brad goes, and I think Brad does a good job.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: I really do think he does a good job, but if he goes, who do you want to see as the bench coach of the New York Yankees in 2027?
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, that's that's tough.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, I got to know Brad.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: I played for him, he was my manager in Detroit.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, I mean, I don't the bench coach is such a is such an interesting position to me because I've had some really, really good ones, and they were all really good in in so many different ways.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, my first year was was Donnie Baseball, and you know, then I had Rob Thompson, and obviously you've seen those guys become you know managers in in their careers and and be successful.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I don't know if you go in-house.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um I would like to see somebody that obviously has ties to New York in some in some way.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't necessarily know if it's a former player.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um it would I I personally like it.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you've obviously seen some signings with Cancer who's 36, you know, never just a player development guy, but got the job.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, speaking of the Astros, the uh Poohs, I think they were interviewing, but I think Brad was great.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think you bring somebody in that understands both sides of the game, the analytical part and also the the baseball feel part of it.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like do you do internally or do you try and go find a bench coach?
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: Change is always good.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: You never I mean you never know.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's kind of what the fun of this conversation is is does does Booney bring in one of his guys?
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Does the front office say, hey, let's keep it internal, let's let's move somebody up from a player development side and and put him in the dugout?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't think there's anybody that stands out to me right now.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think a lot of those ones that we come to mind are are looking for jobs that are still you know being being filled with manager positions, other more so than bench coaches.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: So um I think once we kind of find out what he's gonna do or if he's even going to come back, because I don't I don't know how they left on terms.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, hey, you're you're free to go.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think he's still under contract, I believe.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um so we'll see.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: I there's not really one person that stands out to me.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: I would like to see what they're gonna do if they want to keep it internal as far as promoting somebody from in-house or if they see somebody that's fit.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's obviously a bunch of great guys in the game of baseball, it's just kind of where they want to see that fits the best for them as a bench coach.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: I have a few names.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: I have a few names.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I came with a few names, and you know, I really liked what that Joel Sherman said um Jorge Posada would be a great one that he had him on the show.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's not happening between Jorge and the team.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: One I would really like to see your former teammate, Cece Sabathia.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think that he's been in the media.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and listen, Cece got paid, so like maybe he doesn't want to deal with the New York Yankees day in and day out and fly to Cincinnati and Kansas City in August and stuff like that.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I would love to see him, a more realistic one, who I think did a really great job, a phenomenal job with Team Italy, is Francisco Cervelli.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I do think that Francisco Cervelli has a similar vibe to Aaron Boone, where I do think it could kind of mesh, and I think he really cares.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: And those players really play for him and loved him.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I really I think it would be interesting just to like give him a shout out because uh why not?
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why not?
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um third one I wanted to say was Shelly Duncan, who's doing a great job internally uh with with the squad, um, who's doing really good.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then fourth, I'm just gonna throw it out there.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Why not job a chamberlain?
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: Why not job a chamberlain as Ben's coach for the New York 80s?
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_02: I got I got too many Witch Touch State shocker games to go to.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, but if they're paying, I'm in.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I decided to throw it out there too, because there's no reason why I think that anybody that was on the 2009 team that remembered what it was like could go back in there and bring some of that, you know, that glitter that the that the Yankees need right now.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it will be the worst thing in the entire world.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so you know, just throwing it out there, just throwing it out there.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, then we could do we could do our podcast from uh from the locker room or something.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, so that's all we hit on.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think we hit on most of the stuff.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I think that's pretty good for today.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we have to end.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Luca, should we miss anything?
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's there's the Pat Murphy comments, there's a good off leading plan, but I feel like um I mean, yeah, if you guys want to touch this stuff quickly.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, so Pat Murphy kind of like with when they won the when they won the World Series, he said to Jake Bowers, like, what was the exact quote that he said?
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he said, um I have it up.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: I could I could read that.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: He said that horse crapped Yankees team.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um just remember that when you guys are over there playing for yourself, and then and then he had to apologize.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: He said he felt bad immediately.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: He saw that it caught hot mics, and he apologized.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: He said he called and apologized to Brian Cashman.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um if he doesn't get hot mics, he doesn't apologize.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's fair.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean um that's murph though.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and then he said it was an inside joke between him and Bowers, whatever.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like it it wouldn't have it wouldn't even have been an issue if it wasn't hot mic'd.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's and if it if it was that that's I mean it's literally an inside joke between them.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: And if that's if that's what he if that's what he said and he's gonna run by it, then fine, whatever.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like I mean, it's it wouldn't be the worst thing that's been said about the organization.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't really I don't know why people made a big deal out of it.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, you know, their inside joke, and and Murph even said it's like, well, when you played there, you know, that was just our thing, and that's Murph, whatever.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I he's like, when I called right away, I felt bad.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, did like I would like to he'll probably never answer it.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_02: And and I know Murph a little bit, but I don't I my gut tells me if it wasn't hot mic'd, I don't think he would have probably picked up the phone.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fair, fair.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: Still love Murph, he's great.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the guy's amazing, he's awesome, and and you know, whatever.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: The Yankees are a laughing stock right now.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like it just is so it doesn't matter.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: It is what it is right now.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, one other thing I did want to say.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: My friend, shout out to my friend Chris.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hung out with him this weekend, and he just was like, Oh, hey, here you go.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: And this is uh, we got the Java Chamberlain jersey in the building now.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: He gave it to me.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: So shout out to shout out to Chris who gave me this.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thought it was pretty cool.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna try to wear it, but it was a little too big.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: Chris don't even like me no more.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's bullshit.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, he was giving it, he was giving it to me because he he saw that we were doing a podcast together.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, obviously.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, last thing we gotta touch on.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Or did you have anything you want to hit before we leave?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: We I feel like we hit on mostly everything.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: We have to do our thing at the end where we do the we do the believe stickies, and I'm gonna stay at my seat this time so that the camera doesn't move around.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um so my Ted Lasso believe sign today is gonna be believe and and this is what I'm gonna start tomorrow.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_01: Believe and believe and negotiate.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what I'm doing now.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm on the Sato road.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna still continue with the Sato stuff, but I want I'm gonna be a friend of the players and and a friend to these owners because I have to tell these owners like, hey guys, like why don't you find the$50 million under your your couch cushion?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: So, but well, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get them going.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um believe and negotiate.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: Jabba, what's yours for the for this episode?
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: Mine's engage.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just think like with everything that's going on as far as from the Yankees to not like engage what's going on, like change, like we've touched on.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's obvious.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: Change is up there, isn't it?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Adjustments is one of them.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: Adjustments, yes.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: That was mine, idiot.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_02: I knew that.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, but yeah, I think engage and and what's going on and and get get involved and and get engaged with the things that we need and not just run it back.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can we whatever we do, we can't just we cannot no we cannot run it back.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: So we are gonna add negotiate and engage to the belief sign.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: Lucash, as always, shout out to just Lucash on Twitter.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_01: Follow Jabba, obviously, on Jabba underscore 44 on Twitter.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Jimmy Randazzo.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, have a great week.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next Wednesday.