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- 0:07Speaker 1: know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome
- 0:16Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always
- 0:19Speaker 1: is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Uh. And since the two
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- 1:17Speaker 1: All right, we haven't done that in a long time. Um, hey, Chuck,
- 1:21Speaker 1: I know I asked you, so I know the answer.
- 1:23Speaker 1: But have you seen Zeitgeist the movie? I have not.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I have heard about it before you even said anything. Yeah,
- 1:30Speaker 1: it's definitely out there in the Zeitgeist guest producer Maddie
- 1:33Speaker 1: it was all over that stuff when it came out. Yeah,
- 1:35Speaker 1: I finally saw it. Um Like I would have these
- 1:38Speaker 1: conversations with you. Mean, she's like, you really need to seize, Like, guys,
- 1:41Speaker 1: how have you not seen? Like guests, Well, we finally
- 1:43Speaker 1: sat down and watched it, and it's it's really really good.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I mean, like the guy made it for seven grand
- 1:50Speaker 1: and um, I just did an incredible job with it.
- 1:52Speaker 1: And there's I'm not going to give it away. I
- 1:55Speaker 1: would recommend everybody seeing it. I'm sure it will like
- 1:57Speaker 1: offend a lot of people and it'll take a lot
- 2:00Speaker 1: of people off. But then there are some people out
- 2:02Speaker 1: there who will be like, wow, this is really cool.
- 2:04Speaker 1: But one of the um one of the things, one
- 2:06Speaker 1: of the first ones, first segments is talking about how
- 2:11Speaker 1: there is um like basically all of the religious figures
- 2:16Speaker 1: are cold can be dated back to or trace back
- 2:19Speaker 1: to Horse, the ancient Egyptian god. We I think we've
- 2:24Speaker 1: mentioned that before too. Well. The Zeitgeist, the movie like
- 2:28Speaker 1: really goes into detail about this um but the whole
- 2:32Speaker 1: thing kind of begs a question that's related to um
- 2:35Speaker 1: Noah's ark, which we're about to talk about, and that
- 2:39Speaker 1: how when when you have cultures all over the world
- 2:42Speaker 1: that share a similar story or have a similar um
- 2:46Speaker 1: idol or something like that, there's there's just some sort
- 2:49Speaker 1: of commonality and it's so they resemble one another so much.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Is that evidence that it something took place, or is
- 2:58Speaker 1: the evidence of cultures borrowing from one another and forming
- 3:00Speaker 1: a cultural tradition that can be traced back to a
- 3:03Speaker 1: single source. Yeah, I mean it definitely can be both
- 3:08Speaker 1: to an extent. I mean there is a disparence, the
- 3:12Speaker 1: disparity between the two. Also, I mean, you know, um
- 3:15Speaker 1: but the flood definitely falls into that because there are
- 3:19Speaker 1: stories of the flood of a global, worldwide catastrophic flood
- 3:23Speaker 1: that just changed everything all over the place and many
- 3:28Speaker 1: many religions, in many religious texts. Yes, it's usually accompanying
- 3:33Speaker 1: that flood legend is a man who built a boat
- 3:39Speaker 1: was commanded by God or warned in some traditions, and
- 3:43Speaker 1: built a boat. UM, put two of every animal you
- 3:46Speaker 1: could find on them, or two of every animal, and
- 3:50Speaker 1: uh basically sat there and waiting for the rains to come.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Steve Carrell, exactly did you see that? No? Never did you.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I saw parts of it enough to know that I
- 4:00Speaker 1: was disappointed in Steve carl I got that in from
- 4:03Speaker 1: the TV heads. Oh sure, yeah, but they that you know.
- 4:08Speaker 1: That's kind of the story, though, is that a man
- 4:10Speaker 1: named Noah is chastised by the people in his UH town,
- 4:18Speaker 1: in his area for being foolish. I know there's not
- 4:21Speaker 1: gonna be a flood. He's warning ins of this flood.
- 4:22Speaker 1: You're silly, silly man, building your crazy silly arc. Right,
- 4:26Speaker 1: And there's that's definitely part of the allegory. The moral
- 4:30Speaker 1: tale is, you know, you should be able to withstand
- 4:34Speaker 1: the ridicule of your nonbelieving heathen neighbors when God talks
- 4:39Speaker 1: to you. That's right, right. Let's talk about the other
- 4:43Speaker 1: more possibly scientific aspects of the flood, because it's so ubiquitous. UM,
- 4:50Speaker 1: A lot of people have dedicated scientific inquiry to a
- 4:53Speaker 1: big time UH. This article says outright, that a literal
- 4:58Speaker 1: flood that would submerge the Earth to its mountaintops is
- 5:02Speaker 1: not possible because that would require five times the amount
- 5:06Speaker 1: of water in the oceans and atmosphere put together. Right,
- 5:09Speaker 1: Because one of the aspects of this flood legend is
- 5:11Speaker 1: that the whole earth was flooded up to the mountaintops. Right.
- 5:15Speaker 1: And here's where we get into that whole balle yarn
- 5:18Speaker 1: of literal Bible literalists or Biblical fundamentalists. You know, maybe
- 5:26Speaker 1: the whole world at that time meant that area, you know,
- 5:29Speaker 1: the Middle East. Well, yeah, I mean, like this is
- 5:32Speaker 1: a time when there was no communication other than maybe
- 5:35Speaker 1: a bake clay tablet um and travel was fairly limited
- 5:40Speaker 1: in regional in nature. So if you have a big
- 5:43Speaker 1: enough flood by all intensive purposes, like the world is flooded,
- 5:49Speaker 1: the world as they know it, Yes, yeah, right. I
- 5:52Speaker 1: just found out the Bible literalists they don't literally believe
- 5:55Speaker 1: every word of the Bible. Is like, they still believe
- 5:58Speaker 1: in in metaphor, in horrible and allegory and stuff like that.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I kind of thought that that those people believe exactly
- 6:06Speaker 1: what you see in the Bible is exactly what happened. Yeah,
- 6:09Speaker 1: what did they Why would they call themselves literalists? Well,
- 6:13Speaker 1: because they're more literal than I guess the other camp.
- 6:17Speaker 1: But it's yeah, that's a I mean, that's a entirely
- 6:20Speaker 1: different podcast altogether. Oh yeah, there's a lot of a
- 6:23Speaker 1: lot of stuff with that, and one will probably never record,
- 6:26Speaker 1: probably not um. Well, let's talk about some of the
- 6:29Speaker 1: theories behind all this. You said that it's physically impossible,
- 6:33Speaker 1: it's bio geochemically impossible for um the earth to have
- 6:40Speaker 1: flooded up to the mountaintops. That's what they say, that's
- 6:42Speaker 1: what scientists say. You said that it's probably a little
- 6:45Speaker 1: more um. It was probably a little more local or regional,
- 6:48Speaker 1: And there's actually evidence of UM flooding in the right
- 6:53Speaker 1: place at about the right time, enough to support what's
- 6:56Speaker 1: called the Noah's flood hypothesis a k a. Black Sea
- 7:00Speaker 1: deluge theory. I like them both. Yeah, they're both good.
- 7:04Speaker 1: It don't say the band name thing that Like eight
- 7:07Speaker 1: people just went like that's how did you think about
- 7:09Speaker 1: that black seas theory? Well, too long from my taste.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Uh So you're talking about William B. F Ryan, Walter C.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Pittman of Columbia in New York Times actually before they
- 7:23Speaker 1: even published it, and and like journals, the New York
- 7:28Speaker 1: Times published it. Um. They postulated a theory that the
- 7:33Speaker 1: Great Flood was resulting from rising waters in the Black Sea,
- 7:37Speaker 1: just as the last ice age was tapering off, which
- 7:40Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Um, they're basically their
- 7:45Speaker 1: Their whole idea was that the ice caps um overwhelmed
- 7:49Speaker 1: the Mediterranean, which flowed across the Bosporus Strait and into
- 7:57Speaker 1: the Black Sea, right right, yeah, um. And apparently this
- 8:02Speaker 1: would have happened at about two times the force of
- 8:04Speaker 1: Niagara falls. Those two guys reckon square miles, so they
- 8:08Speaker 1: think would have been flooded. Man. And there's actually evidence, Um.
- 8:12Speaker 1: The guy Robert Ballard who discovered the Titanic, who will
- 8:16Speaker 1: visit with later, um found evidence that there is there was. Indeed,
- 8:21Speaker 1: the Black Sea was indeed at one time a freshwater lake.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Now it is a saltwater sea in Inland Sea. And
- 8:27Speaker 1: so most likely that was the result of the Mediterranean
- 8:30Speaker 1: infiltrating it. He was that two thousand seven, was at
- 8:34Speaker 1: his work, No, no, he was. He Um searched for
- 8:37Speaker 1: evidence of Norzark in the late nineties thousand um. But
- 8:43Speaker 1: so they did find incontrovertible natural evidence, but they didn't
- 8:47Speaker 1: find evidence that there were people that would have witnessed it.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So they don't know if it happened at a time
- 8:54Speaker 1: when people noticed it, or if it was cataclysmic, if
- 8:57Speaker 1: it killed a bunch of people. Are watchure to thousand seven,
- 9:00Speaker 1: they found evidence that ice caps melting from Greenland kicked
- 9:05Speaker 1: the sea level up about four and a half feet
- 9:08Speaker 1: between over the course of about what six hundred years
- 9:11Speaker 1: or so. But there was a five year study from
- 9:14Speaker 1: UNESCO and the International Union of Geological Services in two
- 9:18Speaker 1: thousand nine that said if there was a sea rise
- 9:21Speaker 1: and a flood like that, it was probably over a
- 9:23Speaker 1: longer period of time and more mild than that. Well, yeah,
- 9:27Speaker 1: six hundred years, more mild than six hundred years, they
- 9:30Speaker 1: were saying, yeah, like maybe as much as a thousand years. Right,
- 9:33Speaker 1: And here's the big problem, um, the Noah's Flood hypothesis
- 9:39Speaker 1: and all the supporting evidence doesn't There's a really important
- 9:43Speaker 1: peace left out, which is the rain. Depending on who
- 9:46Speaker 1: you talked to, it rain for six days up to
- 9:49Speaker 1: forty days and forty nights well up to a hundred
- 9:51Speaker 1: and fifty days. Actually, who was that? Well, that's in
- 9:54Speaker 1: the Bible, Okay, I thought it was forty days and
- 9:56Speaker 1: forty Well it says forty days and forty nights. But
- 9:58Speaker 1: then I think, man, I wish I hadn't front of me.
- 10:00Speaker 1: So something about the waters for a hundred and fifty days.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So maybe it rained that long, and the flooding rose
- 10:06Speaker 1: up to a point of a hundred fifty days right
- 10:08Speaker 1: before it subsided. And he also took seven pairs of
- 10:12Speaker 1: clean animals. Uh yeah, and then to unclean animals a
- 10:19Speaker 1: k a. Ferrets. They're they're really unclean. They're good eating.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Though I just left at that. It's also possible improbable that, um,
- 10:29Speaker 1: this the whole flood legend, since remember, um, the world
- 10:33Speaker 1: was a lot smaller even though it's really large at
- 10:36Speaker 1: the time. Um was a larger than usual flooding of
- 10:41Speaker 1: the tigers and euphrates, which flood every year and yeah
- 10:45Speaker 1: and every summer. I think, yeah, it's it's seasonal flooding.
- 10:50Speaker 1: You know, we didn't mention Noah's flood in the How
- 10:53Speaker 1: Floods Work episode. This is the follow up, Um, but
- 10:58Speaker 1: the seasonal flooding, if there was one that was really
- 11:00Speaker 1: really really bad. Right. Um, the the these people, the
- 11:05Speaker 1: people who started to first record the idea of Noah
- 11:08Speaker 1: and this great flood were in that area at the time,
- 11:10Speaker 1: the Mesopotamia area, starting with the Sumerians, right, and some
- 11:16Speaker 1: postulate perhaps Noah was wealthy and could afford a really
- 11:20Speaker 1: great boat and the Tigris and Euphrates flooded, and that
- 11:24Speaker 1: became the story that eventually morphed into uh Islamic and
- 11:28Speaker 1: Judeo Christian versions. Right. But about two thousand years before
- 11:33Speaker 1: it was recorded in the Old testament Um, the Sumerians
- 11:38Speaker 1: wrote of a man named Zeo Sudra, right and uh
- 11:43Speaker 1: he was basically the archetype for Noah and the flood story.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And then that was followed up by the world's first book,
- 11:53Speaker 1: the world's first known book, one of my personal favorites,
- 11:56Speaker 1: the Epic of Gilgamesh by John Grisham. Right. Yeah, it
- 12:00Speaker 1: was a good one. Yeah, I can't believe that twist
- 12:02Speaker 1: at the end the attorney the lady with forty million dollars.
- 12:08Speaker 1: So you're right. That is the oldest book in recorded history.
- 12:11Speaker 1: In the Babylonians say there was a man named uh
- 12:14Speaker 1: utna Una pished him and he warned of a great flood,
- 12:19Speaker 1: built a boat about the size of an acre, and uh,
- 12:23Speaker 1: there were six days and nights of rain, and he
- 12:25Speaker 1: sailed to modern day bah Ran. Right. What what's interesting
- 12:31Speaker 1: is that the the size of the boat is found
- 12:35Speaker 1: just about the same in all of these traditions, starting
- 12:39Speaker 1: with Gilgamesh about an acre in size, up to the Bible,
- 12:43Speaker 1: which mentions that it's three cubits. And let's just go
- 12:46Speaker 1: ahead and discuss cubits for a moment. Okay, I think
- 12:49Speaker 1: it's time in the history of stuff, you should know
- 12:51Speaker 1: that we finally got the cubits. But a cubit is
- 12:54Speaker 1: an ancient measurement of length that runs from the tip
- 12:58Speaker 1: of the middle finger of the inside of the elbow.
- 13:02Speaker 1: It's usually about fourteen inches or something like um forty
- 13:08Speaker 1: five point seven two centimeters eighteen inches or forty centimeters right, um,
- 13:14Speaker 1: So three hundred cubits is fifty inches or thirteen thousand,
- 13:19Speaker 1: seven hundred sixteen centimeters, which means it's four fifty or
- 13:23Speaker 1: a hundred thirty seven ms right long. Three decks made
- 13:30Speaker 1: of gopher wood. All that equals would cover about an
- 13:33Speaker 1: acre in areas it is, But it is strange that
- 13:37Speaker 1: it does appear with about the same dimensions in all
- 13:40Speaker 1: these traditions. So it makes you wonder if there was
- 13:43Speaker 1: a wealthy merchant um in the area at that time,
- 13:46Speaker 1: did he really have an acre sized boat or was
- 13:50Speaker 1: it just like that's the opposite of an allegory for
- 13:53Speaker 1: a really big boat. It's like really specific rather than hyperbolic.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Maybe it would be high bobollic. That's a big boat
- 14:02Speaker 1: for today with today's technology. Uh So. In the Koran
- 14:07Speaker 1: and for people out there that are going what no
- 14:11Speaker 1: one's in the Koran? No in u h He's one
- 14:16Speaker 1: of the five prophets of Islam, along with Abraham, Jesus, Moses,
- 14:20Speaker 1: and Adam. Did you just say, Jesus, I did did
- 14:25Speaker 1: you know this before this article? Uh? Yeah, I took
- 14:27Speaker 1: religion in college. Okay, I had no idea Jesus is
- 14:31Speaker 1: um a venerated prophet in the Islamic tradition. I bet
- 14:34Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know that. Uh So. The
- 14:37Speaker 1: Book of Sarah or s u r a h Sarah
- 14:40Speaker 1: tells of new or noah Um speaking as a prophet
- 14:45Speaker 1: of God, warning his neighbors turned from your evil ways
- 14:49Speaker 1: and aside from the name differences and the where the
- 14:53Speaker 1: arc eventually lands, which in the Bible it's Mount Ara
- 14:58Speaker 1: Rat and the Koran it's Mount Judy or is it
- 15:01Speaker 1: Judi I took it as Judy Judy. Um, those are
- 15:06Speaker 1: really the only differences other than that they're pretty similar
- 15:08Speaker 1: to each other, right, But those locations are very specific. Yeah,
- 15:13Speaker 1: it's not like on a mountain somewhere. And there are
- 15:16Speaker 1: also two very different locations, both known at the time,
- 15:20Speaker 1: So I mean it's not like they were confused or
- 15:23Speaker 1: anything like that. Um. There's also another location, um that
- 15:27Speaker 1: people search to, uh Mount Suleiman in Iran. But those
- 15:31Speaker 1: are the three big mountains that are being looked at currently.
- 15:35Speaker 1: That is correct, So let's talk about, um, the search.
- 15:38Speaker 1: There's there's been uh a lot of There's been a
- 15:42Speaker 1: number of searches. I think there still are for the arc.
- 15:44Speaker 1: People want to find evidence of the arc because if
- 15:47Speaker 1: you find the arc, well then everything really happened, and
- 15:49Speaker 1: the creationists and literalists are like, hey, I told you.
- 15:55Speaker 1: And so a lot of people have kind of looked
- 15:57Speaker 1: into this, and we talked about the geo logical evidence.
- 16:01Speaker 1: There's a little more. UM, there's some evidence that the
- 16:04Speaker 1: the tigers and Euphrates river did indeed have a pretty
- 16:08Speaker 1: big flood around and that it wiped out entire cities
- 16:13Speaker 1: in Sumer. That's that's pretty good evidence that this flood
- 16:17Speaker 1: did indeed happen, right, yeah, a flood. But we're still
- 16:23Speaker 1: lacking one of the main components as far as biblical
- 16:26Speaker 1: scholars are concerned, which is the arc fingerprints. Oh right,
- 16:31Speaker 1: so yeah, let's go to aera which is particularly tantalizing
- 16:36Speaker 1: or was at one point in time. Uh the the
- 16:40Speaker 1: and I got a little impotent in this special in
- 16:43Speaker 1: the Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark. CBS aired this uh
- 16:49Speaker 1: special that they later on said was entertainment and not
- 16:52Speaker 1: documentary after the fact that had It was hosted by
- 16:57Speaker 1: what's his name, Darren McGavin from A Christmas Story. He's
- 17:00Speaker 1: awesome and yeah Billy Madison, and um, did I ever
- 17:05Speaker 1: tell you? I saw The Christmas Story at a screening
- 17:09Speaker 1: in l a and they brought him out. No the
- 17:11Speaker 1: director was there and told stories. He made porkis so
- 17:15Speaker 1: he could make a Christmas story. Oh yeah, you did
- 17:18Speaker 1: tell And they wheeled out there McGavin or in wheel
- 17:20Speaker 1: him out. He was he was in a wheelchair kind
- 17:23Speaker 1: of back into my right and everyone stood and clapped
- 17:26Speaker 1: and he was just kind of like, it was kind
- 17:27Speaker 1: of sad. He was old. He waved like the queen. Yeah,
- 17:30Speaker 1: and his wife was like, this is for you, Like,
- 17:32Speaker 1: I don't think he quite got it. Oh wow, he's
- 17:34Speaker 1: that old. Huh. Yeah. He died not too long after that.
- 17:36Speaker 1: I think when did you see him? So this was
- 17:38Speaker 1: definitely post Billy Madison because he was totally sharp and
- 17:42Speaker 1: mobile and everything. This is like two thousand one ish
- 17:45Speaker 1: or two thousand somewhere in there. Well he went downhill quick. Yeah,
- 17:49Speaker 1: it's very sad. He was great and Cold Check too,
- 17:52Speaker 1: And what Cold Check? The night Stalker? Don't see that?
- 17:56Speaker 1: Is that a movie? That was a TV show? Really? Yeah?
- 17:59Speaker 1: It was like kind of like a outer limits kind
- 18:04Speaker 1: of thing, but it was mainly monsters. He was a
- 18:06Speaker 1: private detective who would who would like end up on
- 18:09Speaker 1: a case and there was a monster behind it or
- 18:11Speaker 1: something like that, or a ghost or something crazy like that.
- 18:14Speaker 1: It's like a supernatural detective series. Yeah, it's cool. I
- 18:17Speaker 1: can't believe I've never heard of that. It's crazy. He
- 18:18Speaker 1: had this tagline, who loves your baby? Not a finger
- 18:23Speaker 1: all right, boy, we can get distracted so easy. Um.
- 18:27Speaker 1: He hosted the show, CBS ran the show, and a
- 18:32Speaker 1: guy named George Jamal Um. Supposedly, his story was that
- 18:37Speaker 1: he and a companion named Vladimir crawled into a hole
- 18:42Speaker 1: in the ice at the top of Mount Ara Rat
- 18:45Speaker 1: into a wooden structure. Um he says. He says, quote,
- 18:50Speaker 1: we got very excited when we saw this. Part of
- 18:52Speaker 1: the room was divided into pends, like places where you
- 18:55Speaker 1: would keep animals. And so this is on TV and
- 18:58Speaker 1: people are getting like really excited about this that uh,
- 19:01Speaker 1: he took some wood with them. Then tragedy struck. Vladimir
- 19:04Speaker 1: was taking pictures and basically backed up and like fell
- 19:08Speaker 1: out and tumbled down the mountain and died, destroying the
- 19:11Speaker 1: film evidence. Wink wink. Uh. And as of course, if
- 19:15Speaker 1: you can't see where this is headed, as it later
- 19:17Speaker 1: comes out, George Jamal is an actor. He'd been telling
- 19:20Speaker 1: this story for years. He's never been to Turkey. There
- 19:25Speaker 1: is no Vladimir. The whole thing was completely made up.
- 19:28Speaker 1: And uh, it gets a little more fun. Though. They
- 19:30Speaker 1: had experts paraded about throughout the show that claimed certain
- 19:35Speaker 1: things like Biblical era people developed the batteries and uh,
- 19:40Speaker 1: with those batteries they ran air conditioners. Wait, I've heard
- 19:44Speaker 1: about batteries. They did have chemical batteries, like back in Egypt. Really, yeah,
- 19:49Speaker 1: did they run air conditioners? I don't believe that. Um.
- 19:52Speaker 1: They said that the flood occurred in subterranean chambers, bursting
- 19:57Speaker 1: up through the Earth's surface with the blosion explosive power
- 20:01Speaker 1: of ten billion hydrogen bombs. And it's important to note
- 20:05Speaker 1: that none of this is like substantiated. It was all
- 20:08Speaker 1: just like made up stuff. And then finally they found
- 20:11Speaker 1: fossils of animals buried in swimming positions, and fish found
- 20:16Speaker 1: in positions of terror, fins extended and eyes bulging, so
- 20:21Speaker 1: like these fish were so scared that they were fossilized
- 20:25Speaker 1: and uh, flash fossilized, flash fossilized with their eyes intact,
- 20:29Speaker 1: bulging at the water, because I guess a lot of
- 20:33Speaker 1: water is intimidating to a fish. I would think they
- 20:36Speaker 1: would have been like, sweet, do you think they really
- 20:39Speaker 1: need to pile on more lower? It was weird. Can
- 20:42Speaker 1: we just stick with the existing lore and try to
- 20:45Speaker 1: figure that out? So anyway, that was the big hoax,
- 20:48Speaker 1: and it was found out to be a hoax and
- 20:50Speaker 1: a big disappointment for some people. I'm sure some people.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Other people are probably like um. So I've mentioned Robert Ballard,
- 20:59Speaker 1: the guy who found the Titanic, famed explorer UM. He
- 21:04Speaker 1: led an exposition in two thousand UM and he was
- 21:08Speaker 1: looking not so much for Noah's Ark itself, although if
- 21:12Speaker 1: there's any place on Earth that would be a great
- 21:14Speaker 1: place to preserve a wooden boat for several thousand years.
- 21:17Speaker 1: The Black Sea, the bottom of it is apparently perfect,
- 21:21Speaker 1: very very cold, very low in oxygen um. And they
- 21:25Speaker 1: have found some pretty ancient wood structures, but they haven't
- 21:29Speaker 1: found any Neolithic structures, although I said they did find
- 21:33Speaker 1: the ancient shoreline. They found seven kinds of muscles, like
- 21:37Speaker 1: ancient extinct muscles. Five of them are salt water, two
- 21:41Speaker 1: or freshwater. Just incontrovertible evidence that there is that that
- 21:45Speaker 1: they found this old ancient freshwater lake shoreline and at
- 21:49Speaker 1: some point that's what the Black Sea was, and then
- 21:51Speaker 1: it was inundated somehow so quickly. Uh, not from the
- 21:56Speaker 1: Neolithic period where it should have where this would have
- 21:59Speaker 1: taken place. Yet he has found some stuff, but not
- 22:03Speaker 1: necessarily that, and that would suggest that this flood did happen,
- 22:07Speaker 1: and it did happen quickly, and there were people around
- 22:10Speaker 1: to witness it and create a story about it. But
- 22:13Speaker 1: what experts think that there is no wood that would
- 22:17Speaker 1: survive that long. It's that's likely the case in ice
- 22:21Speaker 1: and water and whatever. And also, I mean if it
- 22:25Speaker 1: was trapped in ice, like say on the side of error, right, Um,
- 22:31Speaker 1: a glacier wouldn't have frozen it in place. It would
- 22:33Speaker 1: have moved it down the mountain. That's what they say.
- 22:37Speaker 1: So what about Suleiman? Uh? Well, let's talk about the
- 22:41Speaker 1: air rat anomaly first, because that's pretty interesting. Okay, I'm sorry,
- 22:44Speaker 1: I thought we already had, did I guess not. I
- 22:47Speaker 1: think we're about whom we took a step to the left.
- 22:50Speaker 1: There are photos that were taken by the c I
- 22:52Speaker 1: a UM back in the day, and I think it
- 22:54Speaker 1: was I think it was actually film as well, and
- 22:57Speaker 1: they've got film frames now that they've released. They were
- 23:00Speaker 1: classified and then released in the Freedom of Information Act.
- 23:05Speaker 1: And if you look at pictures, there's a dark spot
- 23:09Speaker 1: and it looks like a big old boat. It looks
- 23:11Speaker 1: like a big old boat. And um, so they called
- 23:14Speaker 1: that the error at an only but most like experts claim,
- 23:18Speaker 1: like you said, that it wouldn't just be stuck frozen
- 23:21Speaker 1: up there, it would have moved down from the mountain,
- 23:24Speaker 1: not at feet and that's where um uh, George Jamal
- 23:30Speaker 1: said he what he found it was on err Rat, yeah,
- 23:33Speaker 1: which he had never been tot Um. And then Mount
- 23:36Speaker 1: Suleman that's the one in Iran and that's been a
- 23:40Speaker 1: particular interest to the Bible Archaeology Search and ex Exploration Institute.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Did you see this one? I have not. Does it
- 23:48Speaker 1: look like it too? It looks like a I mean
- 23:50Speaker 1: it's rock. Well they're saying like, yeah, it looks like
- 23:53Speaker 1: it's rock, but it's actually petrified wood. But it's not
- 23:56Speaker 1: the big problem is it's missing like obvious cuts and
- 23:59Speaker 1: joints in evidence that it was a man made wooden
- 24:02Speaker 1: structure at some point in time. Yeah. There's there's a
- 24:05Speaker 1: Christian apologetics group called Answers in Genesis that you can
- 24:10Speaker 1: find on the internet, and they even came out and
- 24:12Speaker 1: were like, I think officially they didn't have an official comment,
- 24:17Speaker 1: but they said, you know, even Christian creationist geologists say
- 24:22Speaker 1: that it's a rock formation and this kind of stuff
- 24:25Speaker 1: if you push it just makes us look bad. I
- 24:28Speaker 1: got to, but they still said, but you never know, right.
- 24:33Speaker 1: But it is in the shape of a boat. Ish,
- 24:36Speaker 1: that's cool. Of roughly the same size. That's very neat.
- 24:41Speaker 1: So it's still out there. Possibly. I like Ballard's approach.
- 24:46Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not looking for the ark, man, I'm
- 24:47Speaker 1: looking for evidence that this flood took place, and there
- 24:50Speaker 1: are people around to witness it. If I find the
- 24:52Speaker 1: boat awesome, If not, whatever, and everyone else can just
- 24:57Speaker 1: do get out. Yeah, exactly, I find it interesting. I
- 25:00Speaker 1: did too. I sit ringside. Oh yeah, that's that's a
- 25:03Speaker 1: good place to be in this one. Sure, um, you
- 25:05Speaker 1: got anything else? Uh no, My my nephew's name is Noah.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I know I met him finally. Sure he is taller
- 25:12Speaker 1: than you, taller than me. He's he's getting up there.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Choose bigger voice deeper. That's funny, Like this little kid
- 25:21Speaker 1: with this deep voice. Now I was waiting for it
- 25:23Speaker 1: to crack it anymoret um. Okay, Well that's it. If
- 25:27Speaker 1: you want to learn more about Noah's Ark, you can
- 25:30Speaker 1: read this pretty cool article on the site by typing
- 25:32Speaker 1: Noah's Ark in the search bar at how stuff works
- 25:35Speaker 1: dot com. Our beloved site, and I said how stuff
- 25:39Speaker 1: works dot com or search bar or something like that,
- 25:42Speaker 1: which means it's time for a listener mail. M hold everything, Josh.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Before listener mail, we need to announce one final time,
- 25:55Speaker 1: which still won't be enough because some people will still say, well,
- 25:58Speaker 1: I didn't know about it. TS. We're doing all we can, yeah, seriously,
- 26:02Speaker 1: aside from coming to your house and telling you excuse me.
- 26:06Speaker 1: March eleven, on Sunday, we are live podcasting at south
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- 26:19Speaker 1: evening Happy Hour Monday March twelve, five to nine Flado
- 26:24Speaker 1: Irish Pub to fourteen West fourth Street. What's going on?
- 26:29Speaker 1: We're having the stuff you should know, UH live variety show.
- 26:34Speaker 1: We're gonna have our buddy John Hodgman. There are soon
- 26:38Speaker 1: to be Buddy Eugene Merman doing some stand up. He's
- 26:41Speaker 1: very funny. We're gonna have music by Lucy Wainwright, Roach
- 26:44Speaker 1: Crooks local Austin band and UH are good friends to
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- 26:51Speaker 1: all of this is to show off clips from the
- 26:54Speaker 1: public debut of our TV pilot that we made for
- 26:59Speaker 1: Science Channel. That's right, half hour TV pilot, half hour show.
- 27:03Speaker 1: If you think you know what it's like, you are mistaken.
- 27:06Speaker 1: It ain't no MythBusters, not that there's anything wrong with that. Well,
- 27:10Speaker 1: why would we want to do another thing a myth
- 27:12Speaker 1: we're doing our own? Is that what people think it is? Well,
- 27:14Speaker 1: I mean that's what I would think. It would be
- 27:16Speaker 1: sort of like, okay, but this is different. Is definitely fine.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Channel is rolling the dice here on us. It's neat
- 27:22Speaker 1: and it's very neat and fun and um, please show
- 27:26Speaker 1: up to see clips. I mean it's gonna be like
- 27:28Speaker 1: the party that evening in Austin, at least that's what
- 27:31Speaker 1: I think. Well, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of
- 27:33Speaker 1: parties too, So yeah, it's that's really saying something. So
- 27:35Speaker 1: come on down. You don't have to be twenty one
- 27:37Speaker 1: to bring your kids. That can have some chicken fingers
- 27:40Speaker 1: and iced tea and uh, it would just be a
- 27:43Speaker 1: good wholesome night of fun. You're really pimping the chicken
- 27:46Speaker 1: fingers lately. Fingers all right, let's get back to it. Yes, uh,
- 27:51Speaker 1: this is from Sarah, the amazing fourteen year old fan. Awesome.
- 27:54Speaker 1: It's been a while. We even psyched people out with
- 27:56Speaker 1: the Hodgman thing, but this is real. Hi, their epic people.
- 28:00Speaker 1: That's the three of us. Wow. I just realized how
- 28:03Speaker 1: long it's been since I emailed you guys. It has
- 28:05Speaker 1: been forever. Over the past nine months, I've made some
- 28:08Speaker 1: pretty big transitions. I'm now a freshman in high school,
- 28:12Speaker 1: and it is in my old grade school. We had
- 28:15Speaker 1: about thirty kids in the grade. Now I have a
- 28:17Speaker 1: hundred kids. May not seem like too extreme to you,
- 28:20Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of a change. I went
- 28:22Speaker 1: from knowing all my classmates middle names, birthdays, family members, etcetera.
- 28:27Speaker 1: I'm sorry, parentheses, not in a creepy way. If you're
- 28:30Speaker 1: with someone for eight years, you get to know a
- 28:32Speaker 1: bit about them, she points out, like we would think
- 28:35Speaker 1: she's some creepo uh to not knowing everyone. Luckily, I
- 28:39Speaker 1: knew quite a few people from the other two towns
- 28:41Speaker 1: that we came together with to make a high school,
- 28:44Speaker 1: so the transition wasn't that bad. Um. When I was
- 28:47Speaker 1: in grade school, I was involved in almost every extracurricular possible.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Not much has changed. I played golf, I'm in fb
- 28:55Speaker 1: L A, remember that Future Business Leaders of America. UH,
- 28:58Speaker 1: student council. I was in Scholastic Bowl International Club, band
- 29:02Speaker 1: and drama club. I'm also taking singing and guitar lessons.
- 29:06Speaker 1: So Sarah is continuing to her plot to overtake the
- 29:09Speaker 1: world clearly uh. And then she just realized she hasn't
- 29:12Speaker 1: listened to a podcast in over a month. I literally
- 29:15Speaker 1: faced palm myself. And then she sent us a YouTube
- 29:19Speaker 1: video Josh of a macrom Ay lady who was afraid
- 29:23Speaker 1: of owls on PBS. She thought it was very funny.
- 29:26Speaker 1: I did too, and it gave her an idea that
- 29:28Speaker 1: we should do a podcast on Macroomay, or maybe do
- 29:31Speaker 1: one over phobias of animals. And then I thought, maybe
- 29:35Speaker 1: do one on public television. So she says, do you
- 29:38Speaker 1: see my dilemma? I have too many ideas. In normal circumstances,
- 29:41Speaker 1: this wouldn't be a problem. That's it. That's how she
- 29:45Speaker 1: ended that way. There was some other stuff I had
- 29:48Speaker 1: to edit. It was a long one. Well, thanks a lot, Sarah.
- 29:50Speaker 1: We're glad for yet another dispatch from you, and not
- 29:53Speaker 1: a phony one this time, that's right, I was a
- 29:55Speaker 1: real one. I I emailed her back. I was like, hey,
- 29:58Speaker 1: have you listened? Like we need send you your book
- 30:01Speaker 1: and she was like, okay, send me my book. I
- 30:03Speaker 1: was like, okay, have your parents send us your address?
- 30:05Speaker 1: Did they do that? She goes, I'll have to get
- 30:08Speaker 1: back to you. So I suspect your parents don't know
- 30:10Speaker 1: she's an Internet celebrator. Probably so. UM, well, if let's see,
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