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The Bolt Report | 27 May · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Jesus is the bult reform it. Tonight, Pauline Hanson turns
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Speaker 1: seventy two and gets a gift from one of Australia's
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Speaker 1: richest men. What's Clive Palmer actually? After and sack our
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Speaker 1: federal sex discrimination Commissioner, She orders Australians to treat men
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Speaker 1: as potentially pregnant and a decorated essay as soldier blasts
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Speaker 1: the ben Robert Smith defenders trying to smear Liberal front
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Speaker 1: bencher Andrew Hasty for giving evidence against him. This is
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Speaker 1: a scandal and this soldier doesn't miss the people behind it.
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Speaker 1: Plus the inflation figures today the government says us they're good,
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Speaker 1: but the reality is frightening. But first, I have a
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Speaker 1: real problem after those violent scenes last night. I mean,
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Speaker 1: do I believe my eyes or do I believe the
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Speaker 1: politicians and activists who told me, hey, you know, relax
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Speaker 1: the return of the Islamic state. Women don't worry. This
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Speaker 1: is harmless. People like Muslim doctor Jamal Riffi, who organized
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Speaker 1: passports for the latest six women and their thirteen children
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Speaker 1: and said, the quicker they come to Australia, the safer
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Speaker 1: it is for all of us. Well, and then there's
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Speaker 1: people like Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke who held open
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Speaker 1: the door for these women and told us the priority
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Speaker 1: of the government as always is the safety of the
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Speaker 1: Australian community. Well that's what we were told.
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Speaker 2: That.
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Speaker 1: What did my eyes last night actually see. They saw
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Speaker 1: heavily armed police muster. It's in the airport ready for
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Speaker 1: trouble as these women returned from the collapse of their dream,
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Speaker 1: the head hacking, infidels, slaughtering women, raping Islamic State And
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Speaker 1: meanwhile in Melbourne at the airport there a joint police
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Speaker 1: operation secretly escorted two Islamic State women out of the
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Speaker 1: airport and what they called the interests of port security.
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Speaker 1: Now that's perhaps because three weeks ago aggressive most of
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Speaker 1: the men welcoming back other Islamic State women returning had
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Speaker 1: charged and abused and even pushed one of the female
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Speaker 1: journalists that were there. And in both airports, counter terrorism
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Speaker 1: police yesterday searched these women and their phones. Is that normal?
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Speaker 1: Is that a sign of all's well and we're all safe?
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Speaker 1: Is the return of these women not quite as harmleous
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Speaker 1: as advertised? And in fact an answer to that question
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Speaker 1: came within minutes of the Melbourne Islamic State women getting
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Speaker 1: out of the airport now heralds. Some photographer had his
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Speaker 1: camera shoved in his face, very relative of two of
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Speaker 1: those women who had returned three weeks ago and be
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Speaker 1: charged with keeping a slave.
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Speaker 3: Oh leave alone, men, Right, they've been thrown up.
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Speaker 1: Right, that's assault. Do not touch me, Do not touch
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Speaker 1: me all have you charged?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 1: What culture is that? What kind of culture? And here's
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Speaker 1: what my eyes still have not seen. Not one of
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Speaker 1: these women have denounced the Islamic State and praised Australia
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Speaker 1: and its culture. It's Western culture, Christian inspired for its freedom,
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Speaker 1: it's tolerance and its wealth. Now the closest we've got
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Speaker 1: to a sorry is the father of one of the
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Speaker 1: women today saying, well, his daughter at least apologized to
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Speaker 1: her family for what she put them through. And then
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Speaker 1: there was her brother saying well he did trust our laws.
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Speaker 1: We do except the full force of the law.
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Speaker 5: Like everyone saying okay, But at the same time, therese
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Speaker 5: guys are Australian citizens, their kids are Australian citizens. You
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Speaker 5: want to hate on it, you don't like the law,
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Speaker 5: if you're saying for them to leave, if you don't
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Speaker 5: like the laury in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Then you muthly, we must leave. What do you think
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Speaker 1: it means? Do you think that these women have not
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Speaker 1: said sorry to Australia, that maybe we're not actually safer
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Speaker 1: with them here? The Israel hatred here is now so hysterical,
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Speaker 1: so close to Jue hatred. There was even a clown
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Speaker 1: the other day outside the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism
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Speaker 1: of All Places, wearing a T shirt with a band
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Speaker 1: Nazi swastika over Israel's Star of David. If it was Israel,
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Speaker 1: that was the new Nazi state. So all Australians or
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Speaker 1: saying Australians must save our country from this shame by
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Speaker 1: calling out the bigots and the hysterics and frankly some
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Speaker 1: liars where we can, and that today means calling out
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Speaker 1: the Israel Hating protests have been treated in the media
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Speaker 1: as truth tellers. I mean, I'm talking about anti Israel
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Speaker 1: haters on the protest flotilla that Israel last week stopped
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Speaker 1: from sailin to terrorists front Gaza. Now some of their
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Speaker 1: supporters were making so typically araucus about this in Parliament
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Speaker 1: House yesterday, claiming Israel was a real terrorist state, for
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Speaker 1: its supposed torture of those eleven Australians have now returned
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Speaker 1: and other protesters on those ships. Now there's something very
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Speaker 1: fishy about these torture claims. I've shown before how these
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Speaker 1: flotilla protests has been stopped from Sada to Gaza, had
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Speaker 1: been released onto a plane to Istanbul, b Israel, looking
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Speaker 1: pretty spray and happy. Yet when they arrived in front
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Speaker 1: of the TV cameras, so many suddenly needed stretchers. And
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Speaker 1: then they spread out around the world with cookie cut
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Speaker 1: of stories about how the Israeli military had bashed them
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Speaker 1: and starved them absolute animals and such sexual monsters that
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Speaker 1: you wonder how they had time for their jobs. If
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Speaker 1: you think I'm making too light of such very serious allegations,
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Speaker 1: I do ask you whether they can be believed. When
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Speaker 1: this German protest with a neck brace in hospital in
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Speaker 1: Istanbul claimed to have been assaulted with a dog and a knife,
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Speaker 1: but back home shortly afterwards seemed to have had a
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Speaker 1: miracle cure. And when this Austrian protest there from the
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Speaker 1: flotilla claimed to have been tortured, yet danced around seeming
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Speaker 1: hale and hearty. And when this British protest that claimed
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Speaker 1: he got an injury from those is Raerey said, I
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Speaker 1: thought would have made him unable to even move.
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Speaker 2: They lifted me up, turned me over and smashed me
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Speaker 2: to the ground, and now I think I've got a
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Speaker 2: broken spine. So we denied access to doctors or medication.
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Speaker 2: So I'm here in England hopefully to get them or up.
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Speaker 1: And then there was this Canadian member of the flotilla.
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Speaker 1: They've gone to all corners of the world, claims have
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Speaker 1: been sliced open by the Israelis.
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Speaker 6: We were brought to a floating concentration fail full of
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Speaker 6: cargo containers, and here we were kept for three days
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Speaker 6: under gunfire, which people stabbed. I literally had a flashperny
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Speaker 6: from between my legs that slice feelpen. We got to
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Speaker 6: the point where we were counting sexual assaults, physical assaults,
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Speaker 6: broken bones, fractured bones, bleeding wounds.
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Speaker 1: Now the Australian protests are also claiming sexual assault and
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Speaker 1: bashings that I would have thought would have left cuts
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Speaker 1: and bruises on their faces the way they told it,
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Speaker 1: they also seemed to have healed those bruises incredibly fast.
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Speaker 7: I was sexually assaulted in the in this kind of
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Speaker 7: torture chamber, and five men were bashing me and smashing
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Speaker 7: my face.
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Speaker 8: Those monsters took pleasure in beating me, in sexually assaulting me.
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Speaker 9: They used flyers to get my earrings out, but they couldn't,
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Speaker 9: so they started gripping my ear and pulling it as
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Speaker 9: hard as they could with the flyers.
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Speaker 10: I was sexually assaulted, I was beaten, and that was.
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Speaker 9: Just the beginning of four days of absolute health.
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Speaker 1: Now the brutality of those Israelis who are eleven noble
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Speaker 1: Australian protests, if you believe them.
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Speaker 11: I have a fractured rib and bruises and cuts over
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Speaker 11: my body.
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Speaker 1: Boy, I once had fractured ribs after a fill out
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Speaker 1: of a tree. I could hardly move, But funnily enough,
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Speaker 1: Australian diplomats met these Australians when they were deported to
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Speaker 1: Istanbul and reported that no Australians required immediate medical attention
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Speaker 1: beyond the provision of basic first aid supplies like band aids.
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Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't know. One of the Australians
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Speaker 1: said she had actually visited about eighty protesters hospitpitalized there
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Speaker 1: in Istanbul last night.
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Speaker 12: I visited like five people in hospital I was out
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Speaker 12: of there were seventy or nearly eighty hospitalizations. I visited
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Speaker 12: five people in hospital. I visited my friend Arno, who
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Speaker 12: has a broken stern amn a collapse long. I visited
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Speaker 12: two people I don't know who have broken legs.
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Speaker 1: She went on to say they were nearly eighty in
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Speaker 1: that hospital. Nearly eighty. Well, excuse my cynicism, because the
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Speaker 1: protest organizes themselves claimed just name protesters who were hospitalized
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Speaker 1: there and three in Greece, although a prominent Palestinian journalist
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Speaker 1: seems to have found and filmed just three in hospital
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Speaker 1: beds in Istanbul, and true, one with what I guess
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Speaker 1: could be a broken leg, although how we got it
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Speaker 1: is unclear. The third was that German woman with a
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Speaker 1: neck brace that we saw later hopping around happily in Germany,
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Speaker 1: and a lawyer for many of the protesters. Counted just
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Speaker 1: two hospitalized in Istanbul, stories.
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Speaker 2: Of a lot of violence when all at least two
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Speaker 2: participants to hospitalized.
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Speaker 1: Not eighty. I mean seriously, now, it's true that some
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Speaker 1: people did arrive in Islanbul with injuries, but was it
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Speaker 1: because they fought the Israeli soldiers trying to stop them
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Speaker 1: or fell over, or really that they were bashed. Israel
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Speaker 1: denies that, by the way, and it's also true that
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Speaker 1: as many as fifty odd protests did report to hospital
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Speaker 1: in Islanbul claiming injuries, although it does seem suspiciously like
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Speaker 1: part of a campaign to smear Israel as a torture state.
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Speaker 1: Now our anti Israel government might be keen to believe
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Speaker 1: this stuff, despite Israel's denials, But there are some causes
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Speaker 1: today that are believed so religiously that just to lie
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Speaker 1: to advance them is to show how noble you are
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Speaker 1: in the fight this global warming, this race politics, and
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Speaker 1: now this crazed hatred of Israel. Someone has now come
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Speaker 1: forward after I called out on Monday a grotesque injustice
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Speaker 1: and a dangerous one, the vilification of Liberal front bencher
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hasty to former SAS captain, a vicious campaign that
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Speaker 1: seemed well organized and well financed to punish Hasty for
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Speaker 1: having given evidence against Ben Roberts. Smith also Exsas, who
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Speaker 1: won the Victoria Cross for bravery, but was found by
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Speaker 1: the Federal Court and the balance of Probabilities in a
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Speaker 1: defamation action to have committed three war crimes in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: Rob Smith and sisters innocent, but he has now been
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Speaker 1: charged with five such alleged crimes of shooting an unarmed
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Speaker 1: prisoner and ordering other soldiers to shoot four more and
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Speaker 1: not in the heat of battle. As I keep hearing,
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Speaker 1: like I said on Monday, to me, this campaign on
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Speaker 1: social media and in emails, the paint Hasty is a
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Speaker 1: traitor and a coward consumed with jealousy for Robert Smith
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Speaker 1: has a very sinister purpose by destroying Hasty, who does
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Speaker 1: now look like losing his seat. This campaign could frighten
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Speaker 1: other Essays soldiers, frighten them off giving evidence against Robert
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Speaker 1: Smith at his next trial. Now seven other soldiers have
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Speaker 1: testified already in that defamation case that was launched by
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Speaker 1: Robert Smith himself testified about just one of the war crimes,
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Speaker 1: and now they are seeing Hasty being crucified. I spoke
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Speaker 1: out after that last straw for me, which was a
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Speaker 1: long piece published on the weekend by the Nightly and
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Speaker 1: by the Worst Australian, which has been long controlled or
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Speaker 1: influenced by billionaire Kerry Stokes, the key Robert Smith supporter.
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Speaker 1: This piece crossed the line, as I explained on Monday,
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Speaker 1: by implying Hasty was a just kook and a coward
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Speaker 1: and a poor officer who never fared a shot in
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Speaker 1: anger as an SAS officer will. After I said all that,
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Speaker 1: I was contacted by Harry Moffatt. Now Harry saived nearly
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Speaker 1: thirty years with the Essas. He was a sergeant and
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Speaker 1: he completed eleven combat tours, spending almost one thousand days
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Speaker 1: of special operations in the Middle East, and he steam
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Speaker 1: Or before becoming Director of High Performance. Harry Moffett later
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Speaker 1: trained as a psychologist and he joined me a short
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Speaker 1: while ago. Harry Moffatt, thank you so much for joining me.
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Speaker 1: Why did you call me? What did you want to
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Speaker 1: say tonight? Well?
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Speaker 3: I was inspired by a piece on Sky I think
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Speaker 3: only a couple of nights ago, Andrew, and I haven't
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Speaker 3: heard it expressed as as succinctly and correctly, so I
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Speaker 3: thought that to add to that, there's you know, there's
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Speaker 3: a I say within me, a desire to kind of
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Speaker 3: feel the silence that's been left for other people to fill.
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Speaker 3: And I think that it's time to pass comment.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's go through it. Andrew Hasey is being painted,
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Speaker 1: including in that article in the West Australian I discussed
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Speaker 1: on Monday as a coward and a traitor. I've actually
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Speaker 1: seen though his Army Appraiser reports from twenty ten to
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and I see that his SAS squadron and
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Speaker 1: commanding officers repeatedly praised him as an outstanding officer. Well,
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Speaker 1: you've got two pictures there, which of the above is true?
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Speaker 3: Well, my interactions with Andrew have always been professional. I
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Speaker 3: found him to be an honorable and honest man, and
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Speaker 3: I think a large portion of the unit would agree
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Speaker 3: with that.
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Speaker 1: And I've had.
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Speaker 3: A number of messages today supporting a post that I
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Speaker 3: put out supporting Andrew this morning. You know this cause
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Speaker 3: of traitors and rats. You know that's gang ethos and
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Speaker 3: mentality where a professional outfit. The SAS ethos is one
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Speaker 3: of accountability, integrity and humility. It's written above the door
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Speaker 3: as you went to the unit. But I'm not having this,
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Speaker 3: this traitor and rats. It's as I said, it's gang culture.
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Speaker 1: And he was also smeared as some kind of coward
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Speaker 1: in battle, he'd never fired a gun in anger as
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Speaker 1: an officer of the SAS. Overseas, he was seen as
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Speaker 1: a religious kook unusually Christian, I think they put it,
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Speaker 1: How does this taggy with the with the Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 1: that you knew and that the men around him knew.
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Speaker 3: Not at all. I've never heard those words said about him,
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Speaker 3: any of those sentiments mentioned about Andrew Hasty in the
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Speaker 3: long time I spent in the unit. I was there
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Speaker 3: for across thirty years, twenty five years with the regiment
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Speaker 3: explicitly and served with all the people, all the parties,
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Speaker 3: and all the interests groups that are in and around
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Speaker 3: all of this, and as I said, nothing but respect
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Speaker 3: and professionalism from Andrew Hasty. And I find it strange
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Speaker 3: that it's come out now. And I also find it
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Speaker 3: quite strange where the criticism has been emanated from, mostly
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Speaker 3: from outside the unit, from the journalists with vested interest
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Speaker 3: and power and money behind them, and also unfortunately from veterans,
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Speaker 3: senior veterans who frankly should know better than to step
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Speaker 3: into this arena. Those individuals haven't served with sas they
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Speaker 3: weren't there on the ground like I was and serving
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Speaker 3: in the unit during this time. And I find it
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Speaker 3: really distasteful for those couple of a few individuals who
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Speaker 3: have taken upon themselves listening to secondhand rumors to spread
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Speaker 3: what I consider untruth.
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Speaker 1: Now, of course we're not going to speculate on the
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Speaker 1: guilt or instance of Ben Robert Smith, unlike a few
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Speaker 1: people out there who are spearing Hasty. But why do
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Speaker 1: you think Andrew Hasty is being targeted like this, that
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Speaker 1: he goes against the code you know you're never rat
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Speaker 1: or is there something else going on again?
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Speaker 3: This code of silence, you know, don't say anything again,
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Speaker 3: it's just drug gang ethics, and it's certainly antithetical to
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Speaker 3: the SAS regiment. If you care about the SAS regiment,
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Speaker 3: you can't hold any other position that the Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 3: been forthright, has come out on the public record to
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Speaker 3: state his situation and where he sits with the investigations
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Speaker 3: and the war crimes investigations. So I suspect that part
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Speaker 3: of the mo of the money power and journalism that's
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Speaker 3: on that side, on the side of defending particularly specifically
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Speaker 3: Ben Roberts Smith, they've got an interest in smearing Hasty.
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Speaker 3: They've done something similar to other people, including myself online
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Speaker 3: and social media. I've been trolled, my family's been docked.
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Speaker 3: So it's not surprising and it's going to take a
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Speaker 3: few more than a couple of social media grifters who
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Speaker 3: are chasing notoriety in their own minds to put me
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Speaker 3: and others off. We want this to we demand as
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Speaker 3: a unit and as a as a bunch of operators
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Speaker 3: and officers, we demand accountability, integrity and humility, as I said,
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Speaker 3: and I think in all of this, the unit is
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Speaker 3: now starting to be damaged and coming under attack. And
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Speaker 3: as I said, I'm not having any of that. I
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Speaker 3: stand with SAS and the unit deserves the process so
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Speaker 3: that we can start a process, or the unit can
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Speaker 3: start a process which I think it's aquitted with a
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Speaker 3: plumb till now, a process of regaining the reputation and
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Speaker 3: trust of the Australia and the whole Australian nation. And
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Speaker 3: I think that's more than fair to say.
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Speaker 1: And I also think it seems to be now some
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Speaker 1: political figures see it's in their interests for the votes
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Speaker 1: or to bring AHD down. Honestly, one nation I think
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Speaker 1: should be embarrassed about what they're doing. And also some
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Speaker 1: figures on the liberal side, because even some of his
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Speaker 1: liberal colleagues, by the way, seem to have backed off
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hasty although I've heard, of course from any who
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Speaker 1: have stayed true. What is your message? Andrew has is
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Speaker 1: in a lot of it's remarkable pain at the moment,
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Speaker 1: But it's remarkable that.
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Speaker 3: External interests, whether they be from business or politics, or
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Speaker 3: even senior leaders within defense or ex serving members, casting
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Speaker 3: or deriding so called armchair generals, in a stunning display
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Speaker 3: of hypocrisy, that is armchair generalism. It's hypocritical for outsiders
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Speaker 3: to be calling for things like pardons and using terms
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Speaker 3: like fog of war when they have no idea what
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Speaker 3: they're talking about. And also something that really annoys me
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Speaker 3: is evoking or invoking the Anzac spirit and comparing the
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Speaker 3: trenches of World War One with a War of Choice,
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Speaker 3: which was more of a counterinsurgency full of battles and skirmishers.
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Speaker 3: And I find the whole thing just towards and I
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Speaker 3: would caution all the business people, all of the politicians,
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Speaker 3: and all of the armchair generals to let the process
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Speaker 3: take its course.
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Speaker 1: And just to those people who may think, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. You've had one
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Speaker 1: thousand days on special operations in the Middle East in
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Speaker 1: places lack Afghanistan and Andy Rahk as well as of
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Speaker 1: course in East Team or I think you do know
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Can you tell me, Like I said,
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hasey is in a world of political pain, being savaged, humiliated,
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Speaker 1: I think, betrayed. What is your message now to him?
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Speaker 3: I hang tight? And I am aware that Andrew has
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Speaker 3: received many, many texts, messages, emails of support from within
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Speaker 3: the unit. Can safely say that hand on heart, I've
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Speaker 3: been part of sending him messages to say to hold on.
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Speaker 3: I feel deeply for Andrew's situation and a few others.
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Speaker 3: This is not only attack on him and his politics
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Speaker 3: and trying to I suppose muddy the waters for any trial,
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Speaker 3: which seems to be the intent here, but it's an
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Speaker 3: attack on his children, on his family. If he's a
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Speaker 3: religious man, so what so is bullying of a kind that, frankly,
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Speaker 3: I've never seen before in the veteran community. And I'm
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Speaker 3: really saddened that corners of the veteran community will spread
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Speaker 3: this negativity that really is unsettling. And I think we
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Speaker 3: owe the proud community of veterans, you know, the five
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Speaker 3: or six hundred thousand of veterans who have served the
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Speaker 3: country owe them more than to drag to lower ourselves
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Speaker 3: or lower themselves to this kind of mud slinging.
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Speaker 1: It's garbage. Well, I've got to say that I have
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Speaker 1: met at least a dozen, no probably two dozen sas
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Speaker 1: people in Afghanistan and also at a wedding, believe it
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Speaker 1: or not, and I found them all to be all
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Speaker 1: the ones I've met, at least there be men of
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Speaker 1: deep integrity. So I'm hearing you, Harry Moffatt, and I'm
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Speaker 1: very grateful to you for your time. Thank you so much,
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Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew. I hope that message gets through to people,
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Speaker 1: some people in particular after the break. The inflation figures,
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Speaker 1: the panel and the brutal truth about them rare good
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Speaker 1: economic news for the Albanizi government today, and just when
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Speaker 1: it's being besieged by criticism for killing initiative and innovation
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Speaker 1: with it with a stupid budget attack on the capital
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Speaker 1: gains tax discount. The good news headline inflation fell but
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Speaker 1: more than expected, to four point two percent annually from
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Speaker 1: four point six percent the month before, although as you
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Speaker 1: can see, inflation is still much much too high, higher
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Speaker 1: than for every other of the past nineteen months. But
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Speaker 1: Triji Jim Chalmers to it all as a win.
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Speaker 13: The moderation in the figures, as I said, was much
24:33
Speaker 13: better than the median expectation of the market. That's a
24:38
Speaker 13: very welcome development, even as we understand that we've got
24:43
Speaker 13: more work to do when it comes to getting inflation down.
24:45
Speaker 13: What these results show is that the government's decisive action
24:50
Speaker 13: to slash the fuel excise is helping to take some
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Speaker 13: of the sting out of price pressures from the conflict.
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Speaker 1: Johin me Is the political panel, Hanry Milner form chief Staff,
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Speaker 1: the labor leader, Bill Shorten now director of g xo's strategies,
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Speaker 1: and Michael Costa forming New South Wales Labor Treasurer. Michael
25:09
Speaker 1: Costa the government saying this is good news, but the
25:11
Speaker 1: underlying inflation actually rose a bit. That's the figure that
25:15
Speaker 1: strips out temporary factors and is what the Reserve Bank
25:19
Speaker 1: really looks at in setting interest rates. What do these
25:22
Speaker 1: figures overall tell.
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Speaker 14: You, Well, I can tell you that it's hardly good news.
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Speaker 14: I think that was absurd more spin from the Treasurer.
25:30
Speaker 14: I mean, look, the reality is that our core inflation
25:34
Speaker 14: is very stubbornly stuck in a position where you know,
25:38
Speaker 14: the Reserve Bank's got no choice but to continue to
25:41
Speaker 14: put pressure on interest rates. And remember, Andrew, this follows
25:44
Speaker 14: a very abysmal and unemployment figure of four point five percent,
25:49
Speaker 14: which shows we're going to get the worst of both worlds,
25:51
Speaker 14: that is, higher unemployment as well as stubborn inflation. I mean,
25:55
Speaker 14: look the government and charmers and Bowen, I mean all
25:58
Speaker 14: of them, they're sort of, you know, dancing on hot
26:01
Speaker 14: coals to try and turn a dog's breakfast into into
26:05
Speaker 14: something that's positive to hide their poor economic management. I
26:09
Speaker 14: mean Bowen yesterday. I mean there's another example of that, Andrew,
26:12
Speaker 14: and I know you've commented about that, but this bloke
26:15
Speaker 14: is you know, if he was a corporation, the a
26:17
Speaker 14: triple Seed would be after him for doing the coal strategy,
26:20
Speaker 14: increasing energy costs which feed into our poor productivity by
26:25
Speaker 14: one hundred one hundred percent, and then dropping them by
26:28
Speaker 14: five percent and claiming everything's gone down. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 14: he's using the inverted coals finger at us, treating us
26:35
Speaker 14: like fools, and the government in general has just lost
26:37
Speaker 14: the plant and economic management.
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Speaker 1: Cameron. It's been a long long time, if ever, that
26:44
Speaker 1: I've seen a government look at an inflation rate of
26:48
Speaker 1: a headline one of four point two percent and say
26:51
Speaker 1: good news. Isn't that right?
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Speaker 15: I mean Jim Chalmers is doing the Nights impersonation for
26:57
Speaker 15: Black Added today with the budget, he's lost his arms
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Speaker 15: and legs everything. But a bad inflation number which was
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Speaker 15: as bad as something else is a good day.
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Speaker 1: It was a good day for the night apparently. No.
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Speaker 15: I mean, this government, to Michael's point, is in a
27:09
Speaker 15: total shambles, total shambles of their own making when they
27:12
Speaker 15: chose to do the capital gainsax, they decided to clear
27:15
Speaker 15: war and aspiration in Australia and they're now ruining the
27:19
Speaker 15: day they did that because the place has gone to
27:22
Speaker 15: pot I mean so, and they've lost control the narrative,
27:25
Speaker 15: they've lost control of the economy, and the budget's done
27:28
Speaker 15: nothing to really bring down that long term inflation number,
27:30
Speaker 15: which is really at the core of that cost of
27:32
Speaker 15: living pain that voters are feeling every day.
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Speaker 1: That's not going to be the first the only one
27:41
Speaker 1: Monty Python reference today, by the way, people should hang
27:44
Speaker 1: on for another Michael, But do you think the government
27:50
Speaker 1: can afford to back off on that capital gain SAX
27:53
Speaker 1: discount move which increases the tax paid on successful small
27:58
Speaker 1: businesses have gone from nothing to good evans, the innovators
28:02
Speaker 1: and the initiate, you know, the entrepreneurs that we desperately need.
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Speaker 14: A lot Andrew, They've got no choice but to do
28:09
Speaker 14: something because underlying all of this is the core problem
28:13
Speaker 14: with the Australian economy, and that's productivity. We're stagnant on productivity,
28:16
Speaker 14: and productivity is fundamentally important and worth creation. And clearly
28:21
Speaker 14: they've got a mess of their own creation. The problem
28:24
Speaker 14: for them is they can't win. You know, they back off,
28:26
Speaker 14: they might buy off a section of the founder's community,
28:32
Speaker 14: but they're going to cause all sorts of problems politically
28:34
Speaker 14: for themselves, for everybody else. Everybody else will be lining
28:37
Speaker 14: up saying, well it's good enough for them, what about us,
28:39
Speaker 14: don't you value our contribution to the economy. So they've
28:43
Speaker 14: created both an economic mess and a political mess. And
28:46
Speaker 14: I just want to make the point too. I mean,
28:48
Speaker 14: charmers there talks about the market reaction. Markets you know
28:52
Speaker 14: have got the sort of outlook of a goldfish. You know,
28:55
Speaker 14: they operate on hourly movements, and you know, the market
29:00
Speaker 14: changes today were about the bets the short term bets
29:04
Speaker 14: that a number of players made. They've got nothing to
29:05
Speaker 14: do with the long term economic prosperity of the country,
29:08
Speaker 14: which revolves around productivity.
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Speaker 1: Now, Cameron, right now, it's almost amazing to say, well,
29:20
Speaker 1: it is amazing to say one nation in the polls
29:24
Speaker 1: is nipping at the heels of labor. This is just
29:27
Speaker 1: incredible stuff. Who's leader? Pauline Hanson turned seventy two today.
29:33
Speaker 1: She actually had a visitor drop in billionaire Clive Palmer
29:36
Speaker 1: bearing gifts, cakes, flowers, which she said she really appreciated. Now,
29:42
Speaker 1: I wonder if the gifts also included something more substantial,
29:47
Speaker 1: because Palmer has been a critic of Hanson, has spent
29:50
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars his own political parties with
29:52
Speaker 1: almost zero result. Although Hanson, I got to say, just
29:56
Speaker 1: told Chris Kenny there was no talk of Parmer joining
29:58
Speaker 1: one nation or backing it his she.
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Speaker 7: Is, if he wanted to put some money towards he
30:03
Speaker 7: might be watching your program now and be told about this,
30:07
Speaker 7: So that might be an indication. Yes, I've got no
30:09
Speaker 7: problems about taking any donations to help us.
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Speaker 1: Cameron Milner, what do you think about Clive Palmer bombing
30:17
Speaker 1: up in Hanson's office late that.
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Speaker 15: Well, I reckon it would have been the Jerry require moment.
30:23
Speaker 15: Wouldn't it be show me the money, Show me the money, Clive.
30:26
Speaker 1: I mean, the trick here is that. The trick the
30:30
Speaker 1: trick here.
30:31
Speaker 15: Is that is that Palmer has no political nous, but
30:33
Speaker 15: he's got lots of cash and he knows how to
30:35
Speaker 15: splash it. I mean, so you know, in terms of
30:37
Speaker 15: you know, honestly, you know, Pauline's message and Clive's cash
30:42
Speaker 15: would be a potent mix. And that's something which obviously
30:45
Speaker 15: one nation should be very keen to get hold of.
30:47
Speaker 15: But also to take Palmer out of the voice as well.
30:48
Speaker 15: I mean, the moment he's buying a lot of space
30:51
Speaker 15: with looks mixed messages. Taking taking him out of the
30:54
Speaker 15: space would be also to advantage to one nation.
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Speaker 1: Well, Cameron, you're the you are the you know, the
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Speaker 1: crisis manager. I mean, when I see Palmer's newspaper ads
31:06
Speaker 1: in his billboards, I'm thinking they're bizarre, they make no
31:09
Speaker 1: real political point. If I could have the money, if well,
31:12
Speaker 1: if one nation could have the money with their clever marketing,
31:15
Speaker 1: what the difference that would make, wouldn't it? It would
31:20
Speaker 1: be huge.
31:21
Speaker 15: I mean, I mean James Ashby, I think is a
31:22
Speaker 15: very creative guy, very smart campaign director. With that, with
31:26
Speaker 15: that much more money behind him, and that much more
31:28
Speaker 15: money to get the message out to a wider audience,
31:31
Speaker 15: it could be very patent.
31:34
Speaker 1: What do you think in Michael Costa, I.
31:36
Speaker 14: Would run a million miles away from Clive Palmer. You know,
31:40
Speaker 14: his money always comes with springs attached, and those strings
31:44
Speaker 14: has seen election campaign after election campaign when he's managed
31:48
Speaker 14: to get people up cause all sorts of problems. I
31:51
Speaker 14: would keep away from him. I mean, you know, the
31:54
Speaker 14: one thing you can say about Pauline Anson is she's
31:56
Speaker 14: run her own show and clearly she's been successful. And
31:59
Speaker 14: it took a lot time, but she's been successful. At
32:01
Speaker 14: what do you need Clive Barmer hanging on your coat?
32:03
Speaker 1: Teres Yes, an overnight sensation after twenty years? How about that,
32:09
Speaker 1: Michael Costa, Cameron Milner, thank you very much. Indeed, after
32:13
Speaker 1: the break, Rowan Dean on the Sex Discrimination Commissioner has
32:16
Speaker 1: just said we should treat men as potentially pregnant. Why
32:21
Speaker 1: is she even in the job if she thinks that?
32:28
Speaker 1: You know, this is a post truth age where a woman,
32:31
Speaker 1: for instance, is anything you say it is, I mean,
32:34
Speaker 1: you forget biology and to my amazement, well not amazement.
32:40
Speaker 1: I've seen this matters for too long. Now do you
32:43
Speaker 1: know we actually pay some bureaucras big money for not
32:47
Speaker 1: actually knowing, deliberately not knowing what a woman really is.
32:50
Speaker 1: He is the president of our Human Rights Commission at
32:53
Speaker 1: has sented estimates hearing last night, I'm.
32:56
Speaker 3: Asking him, from the Commission's perspective, what is a woman?
33:00
Speaker 3: An adult female human thank you, and includes a transgender woman.
33:07
Speaker 1: Oh, woman can also be a man. Even crazier, our
33:10
Speaker 1: sex discrimination commissioner, and she should actually be sacked for
33:14
Speaker 1: not being able to tell the sexes apart. She's got
33:18
Speaker 1: to the point where she actually states, as a fat
33:24
Speaker 1: a legal opinion binding us all that some men should
33:27
Speaker 1: be treated as potentially able to have babies trans women.
33:34
Speaker 8: If someone is who applies for a job, for example, yes,
33:40
Speaker 8: and it is a trans woman, and she may be
33:45
Speaker 8: asked whether or not she intends to have children, and
33:48
Speaker 8: if she replies yes, I do, and then doesn't get
33:51
Speaker 8: the job because that employer doesn't want to employ women
33:55
Speaker 8: who maybe of childbearing age, then she may have been
34:00
Speaker 8: subjected to unlawful discrimination on the basis of potential pregnancy.
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Speaker 1: I'm very confused. A biological mail can't become pregnant, but.
34:11
Speaker 8: The grounds of pregnancy includes potential pregnancy as well as pregnancy.
34:17
Speaker 6: But if they can't become pregnant, how can you then
34:20
Speaker 6: become potentially pregnant?
34:23
Speaker 8: It's about the unlawful treatment by the employer.
34:28
Speaker 1: I see, if we paid that woman a grant to
34:31
Speaker 1: go around the comedy circuit doing that as a joke,
34:35
Speaker 1: you know, I'd say that's not bad. Although of course
34:37
Speaker 1: it was forty seven years ago that Monty Python thought
34:41
Speaker 1: up that joke in the first place. It didn't actually
34:44
Speaker 1: think that that woman will be describing it as our
34:46
Speaker 1: future as the law of Australia.
34:50
Speaker 4: Which you'll find the oppressos for your right to have babies.
34:53
Speaker 4: Brother sister, what's the point well, what's the point of
34:58
Speaker 4: finding juries right away babies when you can't help babies?
35:04
Speaker 1: And that is exactly what you just heard for real.
35:08
Speaker 1: I mean joining me is Rowan, Diana. It's are in
35:09
Speaker 1: chief of the Spectator Australia, host of Outsiders every Sunday
35:12
Speaker 1: at nine am and host of his own show on
35:14
Speaker 1: Fridays at seven pm. Rowan Rowan, This is just astonishing.
35:19
Speaker 1: Yesterday's satire is today's law. Men must be treated as
35:24
Speaker 1: potentially pregnant.
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Speaker 11: It's hilarious, Andrew, and great to show the Monty Python
35:30
Speaker 11: clip there, because Monty Python were under so many of
35:33
Speaker 11: these absurdities decades ago. But the Western Enlightenment, the Western
35:39
Speaker 11: Nations have prided ourselves since the seventeen eighteenth century of
35:43
Speaker 11: living in the Age of reason. You mentioned we're in
35:45
Speaker 11: a post woke era. The age of reason. The whole
35:48
Speaker 11: point of the Age of reason, you relied on reason, logic, language,
35:53
Speaker 11: common sense. If you all subscribe to the same basic
35:58
Speaker 11: theories of none, then you could achieve great things. And
36:02
Speaker 11: the Industrial Revolution proved that once you abandon reason, we saw,
36:07
Speaker 11: for example, in the Victorian era, the establishment of lunatic
36:11
Speaker 11: asylums for people who had untethered themselves from reason. That
36:15
Speaker 11: was kind of the definition of lunatics then. And you
36:18
Speaker 11: had people like Lewis Carroll, Edward Lee others who recognized
36:22
Speaker 11: that you could untether yourself from reason and logic and
36:26
Speaker 11: have a lot of fun, a lot of humor. And
36:27
Speaker 11: that's where satire and Monty Python and everything stems from
36:30
Speaker 11: that realization. But we are now living it for real.
36:34
Speaker 11: We now have our institutions and our government and our
36:37
Speaker 11: ministers in many cases completely untethered from reason. They are literally,
36:43
Speaker 11: by the Victorian definition, lunatics. Literally, the lunatics have taken
36:49
Speaker 11: over the asylum as was always feared. And what has
36:52
Speaker 11: happened is we see it in so many areas. Now.
36:55
Speaker 11: This is biology where you have the head of the
36:58
Speaker 11: Human Rights and the Sex Discrimination Commissioner unable to distinguish
37:03
Speaker 11: between men and women, and to put forward the premise
37:07
Speaker 11: that if you're potentially able to get pregnant, then you
37:12
Speaker 11: may as well be able then you can get pregnant.
37:14
Speaker 11: You can be defined as getting pregnant. I don't know
37:16
Speaker 11: what she means by the potential to get pregnant. I
37:20
Speaker 11: have the potential to be a multi billionaire tomorrow. It's
37:22
Speaker 11: not going to happen, but I guess I have the potential.
37:25
Speaker 11: Should I be treated yet, probably Jim tat Chalmers would
37:27
Speaker 11: want to tax me on that basis. But if you
37:29
Speaker 11: go down this line of forget reason, it's the ideology
37:35
Speaker 11: that counts. You can pretty much do anything. And we
37:37
Speaker 11: see that with climate change as well, and the last
37:39
Speaker 11: week Andrew as you pointed out, I've pointed out the
37:41
Speaker 11: IPCC came out and said, the doomsday stuff, it's all over,
37:45
Speaker 11: it's implausible, it's not going to happen. Well, the doomsday
37:48
Speaker 11: stuff was the entire basis for everything that is happening.
37:52
Speaker 11: Net zero, transition lines, transmission line sorry, transition to renewals,
37:57
Speaker 11: all of that was based on one thing that is
38:00
Speaker 11: untethered from reality, a lunatic concept that the world was
38:06
Speaker 11: going to end because of farting cows. We now know
38:09
Speaker 11: even the IPCC says the world is not going to
38:11
Speaker 11: end because of farting cows. Yet we're still our government ministers,
38:16
Speaker 11: our big institutions, our climate change institutions, the human rights organizations,
38:21
Speaker 11: they are all literally andrew untethered from reality, and people
38:25
Speaker 11: should be very scared. You're right to say these people
38:27
Speaker 11: should lose their jobs. These institutions need to be abolished
38:31
Speaker 11: or certainly rethought from the ground up again, because the
38:34
Speaker 11: danger they are doing by separating us and our kids
38:39
Speaker 11: and their kids from reality is terrifying.
38:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you mentioned climate change. The basic insanity is
38:47
Speaker 1: that we are spending billions of dollars to change the
38:50
Speaker 1: climate when everyone knows, including a lot of the people
38:54
Speaker 1: telling us to spend these buildings that we cannot make
38:58
Speaker 1: any difference in Australia to what the world's temporatary is.
39:01
Speaker 1: It's just total insanity being told to say something useless.
39:05
Speaker 1: And the reason I feel so threatened by the death
39:07
Speaker 1: of reason is that when you've got reason, one person
39:11
Speaker 1: can persuade ninety nine others that something is wrong. Without reason,
39:16
Speaker 1: the ninety nine can just squash the one person because
39:20
Speaker 1: it's the vibe or whatever. I mean, It's just we
39:23
Speaker 1: are powerless. Rowan Now the return last night of Islamic
39:27
Speaker 1: state women. The government claims the law is the law.
39:29
Speaker 1: It cannot keep out Australian citizens unless it's a temporary ban,
39:34
Speaker 1: and then only on the advice of security agencies. So
39:37
Speaker 1: what that's all this same?
39:39
Speaker 11: Well, again, we're untethered from reason because reason would tell you.
39:42
Speaker 11: I don't want to talk about the individuals themselves, but
39:44
Speaker 11: just speaking in general terms, in broad terms, if you
39:48
Speaker 11: have people who leave your community, your group, your country,
39:51
Speaker 11: your nation, whatever, and head off to join an organization
39:56
Speaker 11: or another group of people or another whatever it is
39:59
Speaker 11: who hate you and don't like you and are at
40:02
Speaker 11: war with you, and then they change their mind and
40:05
Speaker 11: want to come back. Reason. Reason would say, well, hang on,
40:08
Speaker 11: we've got to take this very very carefully. We've got
40:10
Speaker 11: to take this slowly. We've got to take it one
40:12
Speaker 11: by one. We've got to be absolutely crystal clear that
40:16
Speaker 11: any single one of you, under whatever circumstances, does not
40:20
Speaker 11: pose a threat to the people in this nation. And
40:23
Speaker 11: that is what terrifies me. How many, whether the threats,
40:28
Speaker 11: whether there are real or non real threats, The reason
40:31
Speaker 11: would tell you there are going to be many people,
40:34
Speaker 11: many Australians traumatized by the Bondai massacre all the other
40:41
Speaker 11: in the last couple of years, who are terrified witless
40:46
Speaker 11: of people coming from the Isis Islamic states to kill Jews.
40:53
Speaker 1: So true, so true. We're told, you know, think of
40:57
Speaker 1: their children, were told think of these children, and that
41:00
Speaker 1: we've let in. But I'm also thinking, well, shouldn't we
41:03
Speaker 1: be thinking of Australian children that are right here? Isn't
41:06
Speaker 1: that a primary duty of care? Rowan Deane, thank you
41:09
Speaker 1: so much for your time. After the break, the Tony
41:14
Speaker 1: Abbott is going to be elected President of the Liberals
41:18
Speaker 1: nationally on Friday, and the governments already laughing at this
41:23
Speaker 1: should it do so? We will talk about that after this.
41:30
Speaker 1: The Liberals who on Friday make former Prime Minister Tony
41:32
Speaker 1: Abbot the new federal president. Is it proven election winner,
41:37
Speaker 1: known force and they're excited, But Labor, the Prime Minister,
41:42
Speaker 1: has already been gunning for him over the past few days.
41:48
Speaker 3: This is a mob we think the future is making
41:50
Speaker 3: Tony Abbott the president of the Liberal Party.
41:55
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're going to hear that line a lot.
41:57
Speaker 1: And the question is if it's a good move by
41:59
Speaker 1: the Liberals to get this proven election winner into that
42:01
Speaker 1: job or will this make Abbot seem to overshadow opposition
42:06
Speaker 1: leader Angus Taylor. Like Bill Hayden was as Labor leader,
42:10
Speaker 1: he was overshadowed when Labor propped him up by bracketing
42:14
Speaker 1: him with new Southwest premier never ran another election winner
42:18
Speaker 1: and the great rising force Bob Hawk. Joining me is
42:21
Speaker 1: the panel SCUN News host James McPherson and Caroline to Russo,
42:26
Speaker 1: commentator and president of the West Astralian Liberals. And speaking
42:29
Speaker 1: of Caroline, you are running to be vice president of
42:32
Speaker 1: the party Vice president to Tony Abbott, and I shall
42:36
Speaker 1: ask you a question. I am sure you will not
42:38
Speaker 1: want to touch What makes you confident that Labour can't
42:41
Speaker 1: use Abbot to attack the Liberals is looking to the
42:44
Speaker 1: pass when they want to fight for the future.
42:48
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a bit rich coming from the
42:50
Speaker 9: Labor Party who have Wayne Swann as their federal president.
42:55
Speaker 9: And if you want to talk about going back to
42:57
Speaker 9: the past and not a particularly edifying pace period for
43:01
Speaker 9: the Australian economy, you don't have to look much further
43:03
Speaker 9: than Wayne Swan. But the simple fact of the matter is.
43:06
Speaker 1: The federal president answer.
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Speaker 9: The federal president is an internal position, it's a party
43:14
Speaker 9: position and if you look back through the list of
43:17
Speaker 9: federal presidents, there's a lot of former premiers there, there's
43:20
Speaker 9: a lot of very senior people and that's generally who
43:24
Speaker 9: fills those sorts of roles. And Tony Abbott he has
43:27
Speaker 9: been an opposition leader, he has been a Prime minister.
43:31
Speaker 9: He had Alan Stockdall and Richard Olsten as his federal presidents,
43:35
Speaker 9: so he knows what he expects out of a federal
43:39
Speaker 9: president when he held that position, and I'm sure that
43:42
Speaker 9: he will fill that role for Angus.
43:46
Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be tricky for some of us
43:48
Speaker 1: here on Sky. I mean, you know, I'd like Tony
43:50
Speaker 1: Abbit a lot, but we'll have to just treat the
43:53
Speaker 1: Liberals as a party that's in trouble, regardless if it
43:57
Speaker 1: offends Tony. But I'm sure he'll do a good job.
44:00
Speaker 1: But James, what do you think?
44:02
Speaker 14: Well?
44:02
Speaker 10: I think that if Labor say this is the Liberal
44:05
Speaker 10: Party reverting to the past, they'd find a lot of
44:08
Speaker 10: Australians think very fondly of the past compared to what
44:11
Speaker 10: we're living through right now, and a future under this
44:14
Speaker 10: Labor government doesn't bear thinking about. I reckon if you
44:16
Speaker 10: could get a Dolorean, it would not have enough seats
44:19
Speaker 10: for the number of Australians that would like to go
44:21
Speaker 10: back fifteen twenty years. I don't think that line is
44:24
Speaker 10: going to work for Labor. In terms of Angus Taylor,
44:28
Speaker 10: I think this is a great move. He should not
44:29
Speaker 10: be worried about Tony Abbot overshadowing him. It's a small
44:33
Speaker 10: man who surrounds himself with smaller people. It's a confident
44:37
Speaker 10: and secure leader who surrounds himself with big figures, and
44:41
Speaker 10: so I think it's a great move for the Liberal Party.
44:44
Speaker 10: It's only going to help Angus Taylor because I do
44:48
Speaker 10: believe and trust that Tony Abbott is not in this
44:51
Speaker 10: for ego or for self aggrandizement. He's in it because
44:54
Speaker 10: he's genuinely concerned A about the country, b about the
44:58
Speaker 10: Liberal Party. And so long as he remains president and
45:01
Speaker 10: doesn't try to be the leader, and as long as
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Speaker 10: Angus Taylor remains the leader and doesn't get insecure, I
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Speaker 10: think this is a great win for the Liberal Party
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Speaker 10: and potentially for the country.
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Speaker 1: I think you've given the Liberals a couple of good
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Speaker 1: defense lines. But I would echo what you just said, James.
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Speaker 1: It's going to take Tony Abbotts from well. It's going
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Speaker 1: to have to exercise extreme self discipline because very he
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Speaker 1: likes very much to tell the Liberals what they've got
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Speaker 1: to do this. It's got to shut up, and that
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Speaker 1: is going to be very difficult, I think, for him,
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Speaker 1: but we shall see. Look, I have to say, Caroline,
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Speaker 1: what frustrates me so much about the ABC is not
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Speaker 1: just that this national broadcast is wildly biased towards the left,
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Speaker 1: when his charter says it must be impartial since we
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Speaker 1: all fund it. Worst is the ABC de knows the
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Speaker 1: obvious and lies about it. Now I've had some dealings
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Speaker 1: with ABC chairman Kim Williams years ago when he was
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Speaker 1: my boss, actually, and I know he cannot believe the
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Speaker 1: nonsense is now saying, denying that there is a bias
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Speaker 1: at the ABC that everyone can actually see for themselves.
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Speaker 16: Here is the ABC is not an especially left wing
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Speaker 16: or right wing organization, and in fact, the majority of
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Speaker 16: ABC journalists I would defy anyone to know how they vote.
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Speaker 1: No, I reckon, I can guess, well.
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Speaker 10: You know, guess you guess you might, Caroline your response,
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Speaker 10: And it's funny.
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Speaker 9: I was just thinking to myself, Oh, I bet I
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Speaker 9: could guess, and then and then that comment came fantically
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Speaker 9: the timing was excellent. In fact, oh look, I think
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Speaker 9: it is very very difficult to deny that there is
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Speaker 9: a bias within the ABC. And obviously, you know, many
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Speaker 9: of us sit on the center right, and we're obviously
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Speaker 9: going to see it a bit more than perhaps others do.
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Speaker 9: But you know, how many times have we spoken about
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Speaker 9: the ABC on this show, and how many just engregeous
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Speaker 9: errors of judgment. How many times does the taxpayer have
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Speaker 9: to mop up defamation for all? Just very very untidy
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Speaker 9: and has been very untidy for a long time. It
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Speaker 9: is the indefensible.
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Speaker 1: And I know that.
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Speaker 9: You know, Kim Williams is the chair and he has organization,
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Speaker 9: but it's no nossent and Andrew, when you are.
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Speaker 1: A Kim Williams, I see straight through you. I know you,
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Speaker 1: and look he is the son in law of GoF Whitlam. Kim,
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Speaker 1: I see you. I know what you're doing, and mate,
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Speaker 1: no one believes you.
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Speaker 10: James McPherson, well, he says, this is all just perception,
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Speaker 10: and so he shrugs it off. If I was the
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Speaker 10: chairman of the ABC and there was this widespread and
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Speaker 10: persistent perception that the ABC is biased, I wouldn't shrug
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Speaker 10: it off and laugh about it. I'd be concerned about
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Speaker 10: it and wanting to address it because I wouldn't want
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Speaker 10: that perception out there. But he doesn't seem very concerned,
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Speaker 10: and I think that's telling you'll have a revolt on it.
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Speaker 1: So quite true. Yeah, well that is exactly what you
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Speaker 1: just said, is exactly right. But you know it is
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Speaker 1: true that I don't know for sure how you know,
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Speaker 1: Hosts like Animal Crab and Sarah Ferguson and Raph Epsen
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Speaker 1: and Jonathan Green and Louise Milligan, and on and on.
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Speaker 1: I don't know who they vote for. It could be Labor,
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Speaker 1: it could be the Greens, but I'm dead sure they
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Speaker 1: don't vote for one nation, the Liberals or the Nationals.
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Speaker 1: And Kim please level with us, mate, look, thank you
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Speaker 1: very much, James. The person carolynd are Asso looked awkward.
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Speaker 1: To see you next week. That is it from me,
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Speaker 1: up next to the most excellent Sherry markson GOODNIGHTE